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PJ8 · 05/03/2015 at 16:50
I like your MIDS and FWDS DSDS, if you are worried about your RUCKS may i suggest downgrading Kelly to a midpricer in your back line and upgrading Berger.

DSDS · 05/03/2015 at 16:54
ive got 92K in the bank so can upgrade luey to zac smith, have to see how smith goes next nap cup match tho

PJ8 · 05/03/2015 at 16:58
Personally, i would go higher to a more proven ruck such as Goldy

@Da_Mad_Irishman · 05/03/2015 at 16:56
DSDS – I want to steel this team – great effort mate – I don't disagree with any of your selections in principle without them all been my preference.
Areas I would worry about – defensive rookies – will there be 4 that will play – they normally show up but not banking that will be the case this year.
Leuy is sucking a lot of people in – Not sold – his average was dismal before he got injuried last year when he was sharing Ruck duties with West – same likely now he'll share with martin
Otherwise best of luck with this awesome team

Juan Tamad · 05/03/2015 at 19:01
That’s a very strong team,.. you sure you have enough dough to buy your bench players?

MM · 19/03/2015 at 13:23
Thoughts/ Comments please;
BACKS:
Lumubar, Higgins, Gwilt, Geary, C.Pearce, N.Brown
(Whitecross, A.Saad)
MIDS:
Fyfe, Gray, Griffin, A.Swallow, Neale, Newnes,
Van Berlo, Ellis-Yolman
(Cockatoo, Boekhorst, krakouer)
RUCKS:
Sandilands, Naitanui (T.Read)
FORWARDS:
D.Martin, LeCras, Swan, Bontempelli, M.Clark, Karnezis
(Hogan, H.Goddard)
$148,000 cash left

King Menace · 05/03/2015 at 16:52
Gary Rohan, interesting. Do you think he will improve?

PJ8 · 05/03/2015 at 16:57
He is purely in my side if he takes Malceski's Half Back role. Have heard his name as well as others (Jetta) thrown around for it.
Come Rd 1 if he is named on the bench or fwd pocket ill trade out.

TheLiamNeesons · 05/03/2015 at 17:53
I really admire the Rohan move. I've been umming and aahing about it for ages but I decided to go with T. Hunt instead, but if Rohan does make that role at Sydney his own he could be the most improved supercoach player of the year.

@Da_Mad_Irishman · 05/03/2015 at 17:02
PJ8 – this is the very same structure I am running with at the moment so its a big thumbs up from me. We have different players but thats more of a preference thing.
Not yet sold on Pearce or Rohan
Love the Midfield – I don't have Selwood due to Crowley tag if S. Johnson misses the first couple of games.
Massive call on Mumford but love it – nice early draw and first maneuver advantage to you
I don't know why Martin is in as many teams as I see him in. Inconsistent player who dropped to 400k last year. Lids has more upside IMO
Great work PJ8 – looking at a big year mate

PJ8 · 05/03/2015 at 17:07
Thanks Irish, sounds like i would like the look of your team as well. I see this structure being the best. Taking a punt on Mumford could pay off, fittest he has been.
Appreciate your opinion

Alister14 · 05/03/2015 at 21:45
Nice team

fatboyfat7 · 06/03/2015 at 10:10
Liking the team but I was wondering if you think Z. Jones might fall into that free defensive position instead of Rohan? I'm a SC novice more or less so might be a stupid question….

PJ8 · 07/03/2015 at 10:36
Last I heard is Z. Jones is injured. I have know changed Rohan to Henderson

James · 05/03/2015 at 16:47
*how to improve it not how to improvement

@Da_Mad_Irishman · 05/03/2015 at 17:07
James nothing wrong with the structure here mate – solid team
I'd have a few different players but thats just a preference thing
Want to have a look at Ibbo before I commit
Whitecross might not get up for round 1 – if he does he's too cheap not to pick
Not convinced on VB – Newton might have a higher ceiling
Luey has me concerned but without been able to see Bellchambers I don't think there is a better option if you go Midprice in the ruck
Westhoff is a great POD selection – could be anything this year – has me tempted but don't have the big balls required to select him (for now)
Good work James, you done well here mate

Seaford Scouse · 05/03/2015 at 18:47
Hi James, good effort mate. If Daniel remains unsighted might be worth considering dropping and move lambert to the fwd line to give yourself another rookie mid with plenty of options to choose from. Good luck mate, (like Mick, love the Westhoff pick also!!)

@Da_Mad_Irishman · 05/03/2015 at 17:16
Aaron
If I had one concern over structures here mate it might be an over spend in defense – Malceski, Simpson and Shaw will all be available at 450k at some poit during the year i'd say. Granted all are going to be top 6 defenders so if you go this route you need not worry about this line too much during the year.
personally i'd want a bit more beef in the middle, by downgrading one of the big defenders and getting in another gun keeper in the midfield moving Rich down to M6.
Everything else comes down to player preference – Not sold on Rohan, VB, Luey, Martin and Clark but thats not to say they are not valid picks
Best of luck for the year mate

Aaron · 05/03/2015 at 20:54
Thanks for the feedback mate. Love your work! Who would you downgrade down back and who for? Also I've gone ibbo for rohan! Thought my mids were a bit thin! Whose another good premo that you'd go for?
Hope to hear back soon!

PJ8 · 05/03/2015 at 17:03
Midfield is very weak compared to most.
Also i don't like the selections of Bellchambers, Lumumba and Brown

@Da_Mad_Irishman · 05/03/2015 at 17:23
Phil
If I had one concern over structures here mate it might be an understanding of your Midfield players. Are you selecting Swallow, Mitchell and Steven as season long keepers?
If so you might find yourself struggling against teams in the latter part of the year. if you are using 1 or 2 of these as stepping stones have you factored that into your trading plans? What might happen here is you get tempted to trade one of these out for a permo midfielder before the rest of you side is upgraded – this might lead to a Brown or Hogan staying around for longer than they should.
Dangerous structure if you don't have a clear trading plan.
Brown is a bad option down back – be luckly to average 45 and most likely only get up to 180k – not many options here I know but we will all struggle if Brown is the best one!
Bartel sucking a few in – not convinced
Hope this helped mate and best of luck for the year
personally i'd want a bit more beef in the middle, by downgrading one of the big defenders and getting in another gun keeper in the midfield moving Rich down to M6.
Everything else comes down to player preference – Not sold on Rohan, VB, Luey, Martin and Clark but thats not to say they are not valid picks
Best of luck for the year mate

Matthew · 05/03/2015 at 17:37
Lumumba, really? Langdon has a better scoring output for same price. Nathan Brown will get games, but will barely move in price. Jack Steven is questionable, needs to return to 2013 form.

PreviouslyOnLost · 05/03/2015 at 22:30
I don't mind the Lumumba selection… Not keen to go there myself, but I reckon it could pay off

vcloophole · 05/03/2015 at 17:01
Viojo looks to down the pecking order at Carlton for young rooks. Perhaps switch him to Adam Saad (GC), who looked pretty good and has a strong ready made AFL body. Saad playing in GC next NAB match too, so that's promising.
I worry that you're very thin thru D6-8 if your rooks aren't 100% nailed.

Ryan · 05/03/2015 at 17:03
How do I fix that up VC?

vcloophole · 05/03/2015 at 17:07
Well first up, like I said, switch Viojo to Saad. You're structure is all good then *if* Saad or Goddard are gunna play and score.
If there isn't a good rookie to pick at D6, you might have to re-structure your side a bit mate and spend some extra cash there to be sure you have 6 starting (and scoring!) defenders.

vcloophole · 05/03/2015 at 17:09
Damo, don't count on Whitecross playing early unfortunately

DamonG · 05/03/2015 at 17:12
Possible replacements? Not sure where else I can downgrade to fork out the cash

vcloophole · 05/03/2015 at 18:05
Walters to either Hogan or Mitch Clark..

DamonG · 05/03/2015 at 18:20
I'm not completely sold on KPP's, do you think starting with 3 FWD rookies could cut it this year?

vcloophole · 05/03/2015 at 18:30
Sure mate, if it means you have no obvious holes in the rest of your (backline) it makes sense to start the good rooks no matter where they are on the field

DamonG · 05/03/2015 at 18:47
Thanks for the advice mate makes a lot of sense, I have around 420k to use on a whitecross replacement if he doesn't play, who would you recommend starting? I like what C Hampton has to offer as a potential POD, however cheaper options that spring to mind include Seedsman and Langdon. Picking either of the 2 cheaper options mentioned may leave me enough to upgrade dusty or swallow to an ultra premium (E.g Robbie Gray), Worth the punt? In the end I'll probably end up going with my gut, but I always like to see what others opinions are!

vcloophole · 06/03/2015 at 15:07
I reckon you're on the right track. I currently have Hampton, but Langdon is very much on my watchlist. Seedsman too. FWIW, I have Gray proudly sitting at F1, and it's a nice feeling! What a superstar!

vcloophole · 05/03/2015 at 17:15
Could be a winner with Hallahan as a mid-price POD Jess!
Love that FWD line.
Just be careful in your backline and be ready to re-structure your team if Whitecross isn't picked early, which is very likely!

King Menace · 05/03/2015 at 17:08
Very light in the midfield

keenbutclueless · 05/03/2015 at 18:15
maybe a bit of a problem for Rd 12 bye. Mid – 4 of your 5 premiums out. Plus premo Def and 2 keeper fwds

King Menace · 05/03/2015 at 17:07
I like this team very much

@RagingBulls34 · 05/03/2015 at 17:08
Love the Adcock pick, currently in my team.

King Menace · 05/03/2015 at 17:11
Is Adcock worth a go?

@RagingBulls34 · 05/03/2015 at 17:12
Where's your 8th defender?

I N Pieman · 05/03/2015 at 17:36
Maggie. How did you fit all those into the salary cap. Or is that why your missing a defender. If the numbers add up your onto something big.

maggie · 06/03/2015 at 15:02
oops,i forgot to add a defender ,reshuffled the rookie mids took out bokhurst and cockatoo for heeney and vandenberg and added mckenzie to the backline

Rawkus11 · 05/03/2015 at 20:00
I don't see how you've got this team under the salary cap maggie??

PJ8 · 05/03/2015 at 17:19
Seems to be the latest trend Bacon, a month ago everyone had Ryder or TBC in the fwd line with a DPP swing to back up the rucks.
At the moment i have no back up, my plan is to pick up Ryder in the fwd line at about Rd 6 when he drops (IMO he will drop).
So no back up until then but as they say, no guts no glory!

vcloophole · 05/03/2015 at 17:41
I plan on doing exactly the same PJ8

PJ8 · 06/03/2015 at 08:24
Ryder at F6 at the end of the year and I'll be happy. Hopefully the plan works out.

vcloophole · 05/03/2015 at 17:29
Bacon, first let say that you smell fantastic.
There are a number of great articles on ruck strategy on the site: I'd do a bit of digging and this tricky part of selecting our squad is made a lot clearer.
For what it's worth, the option of not starting with cover is because it's too wasteful to have $300k sitting on the pine in the early stages of the year. Money that can be utilized on the field to generate more points from the start!
IF you will sleep better by having 'insurance' in the rucks, you can hope that Bellchambers is clear to play Rnd 1, then select him as a starting forward. If you also select Cox or Read as your DPP R3, you can then swing them around so that Bellchambers can cover in the ruck if needed

Bacon · 05/03/2015 at 17:54
thanks..for the compliment and the advise hahaha. cheers guys..

Hazey1977 · 05/03/2015 at 19:05
I currently have Lycett sitting in a F3/4 as back up for Nic Nat and Goldy. He scored quite well in the games where it was NicNat and himself (around 90 I think), is noted a part time forward and has an opportunity to be playing down there with the Darling injury. I will be watching closely in the NAB. Of course Sinclair from the Weagles is cheaper but probably behind Lycett for game time – anyone from the west able to confirm this?
I plan to slowly move him down the FWD rankings to F6 or even hopefully the bench all going well! Most likely I will stuff up my trades and be depressed by round 9.
I only play for league wins and lifting up that cup at the end of the year, so saving 1-3 trades if a ruck goes down could make the difference for me. I guess it would be viewed as a waste by the rankings purists.

Northerner · 05/03/2015 at 21:37
Yes, Lycett ahead of Sinclair plus Sinclair has just picked up an injury – broken thumb I think.
I am using Lycett in similar way. Also have Nic Nat – so if he goes down Lycett likely to score bigger as will get more time in ruck.

t_woof · 07/03/2015 at 02:03
Sinclair injured
Lycett & Naitanui ruck duties
Mackenzie out for the entire season
McGovern to play down back, covers Mackenzie
Darling out for at least the first month
There is gold amongst all of the above.

Cow Roll · 08/03/2015 at 02:45
I've seen Lycett play. He has high efficiency 76% and low clanger rates 1.2%. Sinclair is the opposite.

Escape · 24/03/2015 at 23:02
But if we select a non playing rooking ruck aren't we effectively throwing away 100k?
TBC at R3 is going to make you money, not much, but it will make some money. And also you can use the fwd line spot on a playing rookie that will make you money.
Or am I totally missing something?? The way i see it is a trade off between using your $ for points, or for making more $
Option 1:
R2 (Ryder) 540k
R3 (non playing rookie) 100k
FWD 6 (TBC) 300
Cost 940k
amount of $ scoring you points (R2 & FWD 6) = 840k
amount of $ gaining interest (FWD6) **Assume ryder/R2 isn't going to go up** = 300k
Option 2:
R2 (Jamar or McEvoy) 490k
R3 (TBC) 300k
FWD 6 (playing rookie) 150k
Cost 940K
amount of $ scoring you points (R2 & FWD 6) = 640k
amount of $ gaining interest **again assume your R2 just maintains his price** (R3 & FWD6) = 450k
+ insurance
if that makes any sense….

vcloophole · 25/03/2015 at 12:04
The idea of selecting Bellchambers for cover is based around him starting in the forward line. As he is a dual position player, you would be able to swing him into the ruck if needed by also selecting a DPP at R3 (Cox, Read).Does that make sense mate?

I N Pieman · 05/03/2015 at 17:41
You’d have a much better chance if you swapped Higgins to Tom Mitchell & turned Knights into a rookie then upgraded some of your mids to even bigger guns.

NateCrows · 05/03/2015 at 19:09
I have changed again Pieman! Right only my rookie selections will change and possibly whitex (not looking good , not picked again) So…..
B – Smith, Enright, Newnes, Higgins, Goodard, Hamling (long Saad)
M – GAJ, Fyfe, Priddis, Selwood, Dangerfield, Wines, Anderson, Heeney (freeman, lambert, Krark)
R – Nic Nat, Bellend (Cox)
F – Bartel, Martin, Swan, Mitchell, Karnezis, hogan (lonie Daniel)
thanks!

Donavan · 05/03/2015 at 21:34
Just to totally confuse you, I dont mind Higgins, but you need to play either him or young Goddard in the forward-line to open up that Def/Fwd swing. This will give you more flexibility throughout the season, and will almost certainly save you trades.

A saint in geelong · 05/03/2015 at 17:31
interesting POD in suckling, problem with hawks are that they share it around so much their ceilings as so low. Full strength mid pricer team, could explode

keenbutclueless · 05/03/2015 at 18:19
Moore is out injured for a while

keenbutclueless · 05/03/2015 at 18:23
Martin in the ruck is a unique choice. Personally not convinced that any 3 backline rooks can deliver value. Maybe consider converting Mitchell or Martin into a Def

A saint in geelong · 05/03/2015 at 17:42
my team is similar to yours but I spent just a little more in my mids then forwards. So the choice is do you have a crouch as M6, hit the ground running and hope the mid/forward rookies lift. Or do you go the 200k mid (newton or NVB etc.) and have a premium in F4. Interesting to see if others are having these thoughts when structuring their sides

@emhoy · 05/03/2015 at 18:09
Yep I have looked at M6 crouch but would he score more than a mitchell or a lids? I doubt it so I reckon a mid rookie will outscore a fwd rookie.

Danners16 · 05/03/2015 at 20:47
Nice team, although it probably isn't worth having a $177,000 player in Cockatoo on the bench, save the cash and you can almost upgrade Bellchambers into Naitanui

derek · 05/03/2015 at 17:32
I love that you have Gray in your team, i'll be going the same way. Classic SHARK move!

Strawbs · 05/03/2015 at 17:39
Yeah, can't believe he's not in more teams. Reckon he'll be the highest scoring FWD for sure.

jimmy7 · 05/03/2015 at 17:28
a lot of mid pricers to bargain on

bennnno · 06/03/2015 at 17:07
which would you consider mid pricers? wines, o'meara, ellis, i think will hit premo status. sidebottom has talk of a tag but still sits firmly behind pendles and swanny, can also see greenwood doing damage…
Rich, Bontempelli, J martin, Ibbotson are the only ones i feel are mid rangers… however would love some suggestions on where to improve 🙂 also rookies too..

I N Pieman · 05/03/2015 at 17:55
The cost associated with your first 4 defenders would make you want them to finish in the top 10. One of them will I’m sure. Maybe 2-3. But not all of them will. Over capitalisation IMO. Other than that your team looks pretty good to me. If you chopped some cost in defence you could make your other & more important lines even better.

keenbutclueless · 05/03/2015 at 18:28
Solid. Just not sure on Anderson and Freeman as starters. Assume you will change those after NAB Cup.

I N Pieman · 05/03/2015 at 18:04
Begin with the end in mind Deso. I can’t see enough players here you’d want to have in round 23. And that means you’ll run out of trades quickly. 2 premo mids is not enough. Have a look though the other teams posted Deso & you’ll see a pattern. 4-6 very strong mids is a minimum requirement.

keenbutclueless · 05/03/2015 at 18:33
mids drop away quick after your top 2. Maybe too many mid-pricers there. Looks like only 10 keepers. Perhaps convert some mid-pricers into 2 more keepers

keenbutclueless · 05/03/2015 at 18:33
Moore is injured

t_woof · 07/03/2015 at 02:12
Hey Jarrod,
Interesting team, plenty of unique selections.
DEF – Looks solid. Commend the Scotty Thompson selection. If got back to his 90 > ave season, then you'll be having a huge collect there. Moore…..not sure…..No idea of his price, perhaps replace him with Clancee Pearce?
MID – M1 to M3 is superb. M4 to M6 looks a little risky for mine. I'd sleep better at night if Greene or Swallow were a super premium. I don't mind 4 x premiums/Swallow/Rich/Rook, Rook.
RUCK – Ze Mullet!!!!! Like it……he finished off 2014 nicely. Lycett, interesting….ballsy pick, but commend it. Nic Nat breaks down again, then you'll be laughing!
FWD – Pretty bloody good. The Hoff doesn't mind exploding early.

keenbutclueless · 05/03/2015 at 18:36
There it is! An Ablett-less team. Thought maybe an Ablett less team would make up for it with a stronger midfield.

General Soreness · 18/03/2015 at 17:05
Killender, ominous name unfortunately the team not as ominous. I can only count 7-8 potential season keepers, you should be aiming for at least 10+. There are a few POD's in there but unfortunately not ones that are SC relevant i.e. Edwards, WhiteX, Wood. Scharenberg is injured wont see him until at least mid year, Durdin unlikely to play. Karnezis preseason specialist real season spud. Structurally your team looks relatively sound, Adams is an interesting pick, done nothing to suggest that he will exceed expectations but there is an air of expectation surrounding him, as I said it will be interesting. WhiteX unlikely to play regularly, didnt make their NAB 3 (strong team), Edwards is what he is cannot see where he will derive improvement from, Wood is not a keeper, nor a stepping stone, nor a cash cow, avoid. Malceski is a massive spend, downgrade here to another premo, pocket the coin or use elsewhere. Like the pick of Greene and Bennell.

keenbutclueless · 05/03/2015 at 17:31
like the thinking on Def. With Savage injury, maybe put Newnes back there, downgrade Steinberg a bit and put Griffen or Wines in the Mid?

TheLiamNeesons · 05/03/2015 at 18:30
First I've heard about Savage (been out of action for a few days), but if he's having hamstring trouble I'm not touching him! Really good advice, cheers mate!

jimmy7 · 05/03/2015 at 17:36
how much left in the till

keenbutclueless · 05/03/2015 at 17:46
20k

Dean · 05/03/2015 at 19:28
you miss out on the rookie cash generation without getting more. think about how you can best earn money without burning trades

Sam · 05/03/2015 at 20:29
Weak backline

Zed · 19/03/2015 at 17:00
we haven't seen anything from lever so you may have to eat a doughnut there. Consider Brown given that he will most likely play

PJ8 · 05/03/2015 at 17:42
Birchall out for 4-6 weeks. Otherwise i like it

keenbutclueless · 05/03/2015 at 18:41
strong team. Maybe juggle around with Higgins and Mayes after NAB, depending on form.

Lewy1243 · 05/03/2015 at 17:38
you only have 5 defenders

The Minotaur · 05/03/2015 at 17:41
Cheers Lewy, I forgot about MacMillan.

Glenn · 05/03/2015 at 17:57
I like your Brave enough to go POD Tyson and Greene
Pretty sure birchill is injured

The Minotaur · 05/03/2015 at 18:47
Thanks Glenn, I think they both make a good POD from Wines and Crouch. If Birchall is out for R1 then Brodie Smith will get the nod with my spare $$$.

keenbutclueless · 05/03/2015 at 18:42
Birchall is out injured, but like the Def structure.

keenbutclueless · 05/03/2015 at 18:43
Lennon is POD, but not sure whether he is in best 22 yet.

keenbutclueless · 05/03/2015 at 18:45
Maybe change Hiigns and Lever for 2X 380k Defs that you think might become premo. Would be consistent with the structure you have adopted for the rest of your team

Donavan · 05/03/2015 at 22:13
I would keep Higgins and move Hugh Goddard to the forward line, to open up the Def/Fwd swing with Higgins. May save you trades later on.

Donavan · 05/03/2015 at 22:15
Not sure about Duryea & Hunt in defence.
Like the Breust selection.

Your Enemy · 09/03/2015 at 20:01
Easy top 8 team for the Gola Lague

A saint in geelong · 05/03/2015 at 17:46
jimmy I really like the structure. You have gone the F4 premium with 200k M6. Very valid move. Beware of the early geary, I can tell you as a saints fan the high scores wont last. Enright gives your backline a nice steady hand. Question I have for you in your mids is will your M2 to m5 be in the top 15 mids. Great use of players with great draws (Sidebottom, priddis).
Mitchell is a risk, monitor closely.

jimmy7 · 05/03/2015 at 19:45
i barrack 4 saint too

keenbutclueless · 05/03/2015 at 18:47
your top 3 mids all out in Rd 12 bye. Otherwise extremely solid team

jimmy7 · 05/03/2015 at 19:32
yeah i know, sucks

@emhoy · 05/03/2015 at 18:40
Not enough spend in the midfield I reckon you need one more keeper. You could downgrade Adams and then upgrade Langford. Otherwise solid team.

NateCrows · 05/03/2015 at 19:11
I reckon wait on Rocky. Thats his ceiling i think. get him at rn1 bye

fatboyfat7 · 08/03/2015 at 12:12
Although not in my team, I think Langford is being overlooked this year, Won't be a T10 mid but I could see him definitely increasing that average significantly.

keenbutclueless · 05/03/2015 at 18:54
I think Swallow has the lower ceiling. Or you can go from Rich straight to a premo for 3/3/2 structure

Redgumwon · 08/03/2015 at 14:56
Get Goldy into your rucks department. Leuy has burnt people in the past and will do so this year again

Dean · 05/03/2015 at 17:44
DEF – Newnes, Rampe, K. Kolodjashnij, Yeo, Mayes, Whitecross, H. Goddard & Maynard
MID – Ablett, Pendlebury, Griffen, B. Crouch, D. Swan, Jong, Van Berlo, Boekhorst,, Freeman, Adam Saad, Lambert
R – Mumford, Naitanui, Read
FWD – D. Martin, Dahlhaus, T. Mitchell, Joshue Kelly, Bellchambers, Salem, Hogan, Steele
$23,200 left

Avzmo · 05/03/2015 at 18:08
Attack of the midpricers. I think your backs will make you a little money, but your going to have to burn so many trades come year end to get full premos as I don't see any of those (except maybe Newnes) being top 15 defenders at year end.
Same with Jong, he might make you a tiny amount of cash, I know hes attempting to step into Griffin's role, but I think hes too raw and there are other players around his price range who will score better.

keenbutclueless · 05/03/2015 at 18:03
if your strategy is to provide ruck cover ( a strategy I agree with!), I think you must have strong bench cover. With your forward line, the only way to bring Swan back down is if one of your selections spuds it up, or if you are looking to use Mitchell or Kelly as a stepping stone to a premo mid. If it is Kelly, maybe consider Rich and bring Swan back down.

Dean · 05/03/2015 at 19:11
DEF – H. Shaw, Newnes, Rampe, Yeo, Johannisen, Goddard, Maynard, McKenzie
MID – Ablett, Pendlebury, J. Selwood, Dangerfield, Griffen, Rich, Heeney, Boekhorst, Freeman, Steele, Lambert
RUCK – Mumford, Natainui, Read
FWD – D. Martin, D. Swan, T. Mitchell, Bellchambers, Salem, Hogan, Laverde, C. Daniel
$9,200 remaining.
Any suggestions on Improving my side? I want to start with 12 premiums however, limited rookies in defence, means I have to find value and sacrifice a few premiums so I can avoid the doughnut in defence. Bellchambers is only there for ruck insurance and to get read on the field for the captains loophole. My Forward line feels weak. Any suggestions?

NateCrows · 05/03/2015 at 19:12
Danger. You are putting too much stock in breakouts

keenbutclueless · 05/03/2015 at 18:50
posiibly short one premium mdi. perhaps choose one of McRae Hallahan and C Beams, upgrade one to a premo and downgrade the other to a rook

JoeWoolcock · 05/03/2015 at 18:05
Haven't seen too many sides with Will M. this year Duff, definite POD.

Avzmo · 05/03/2015 at 18:06
Your short a forward, so not really sure what to make of it.
Also I don't like Minson, he fell off bad last year and he got beat out by Hampson convincly in the first NAB cup game. I think there are plenty of other cheaper options who will add value to your side.
Keep your eyes on WhiteX, he may not make Hawks top 22.

keenbutclueless · 05/03/2015 at 18:51
four of your Top 5 mids all out in Rd 12 bye. Not sure 3 def rooks can deliver value

keenbutclueless · 05/03/2015 at 17:56
personally I am not sure that any 3 rooks down back can deliver much, but I do see it in a lot of teams. Not sure that Anderson and Boekhurst are walk up starts in the best 22. Vest possibilities also. May leave your midfield weak.

Avzmo · 05/03/2015 at 18:04
Your team looks pretty good, I'm not sure on the three premo's down back with no other support, expecially if Whitecross doesn't make the team. You may have to drop a ruck or mid to compensate as I think there are definetely some mid price options down back that can slot into D4 for ya. Again tho, otherwise looking pretty solid.

Travis · 05/03/2015 at 17:46
Luke McDonald in backline

Avzmo · 05/03/2015 at 18:00
No offence mate but I think this is a bit of a shambles, I'm all for POD's but having 20 POD's often means your rekt.
I'd say your midfield is very shallow and needs more work, not enough elites through there. Having Lycett as ruck 1 could be a fantastic idea, but could be a flop also.
Your forward line is loaded which can be a strategy especially with the DPP's this year, but your paying for it across your other three lines.

Avzmo · 05/03/2015 at 17:56
Team has some good traits in my opinion, looks very solid. I'm hesitant on Gray, I just think after his breakout year he may loom as a tag option, I want to see the first few rounds as I can't see him rising in price dramatically if at all through the first few before I may consider him. Also, I doubt very highly that Laverde gets a run at the Bombers. You might find Whitecross strugles to get a gig as well. But time will tell!!!

JoeWoolcock · 05/03/2015 at 17:59
Love the ruck combo mate. Backup good idea though with their injury history. Backs, mids look solid, only comment would really be on starting Karnezis. That said, if he starts round 1 could be a steal!

Ultimae Wingman · 06/03/2015 at 11:25
Strong team John. Like Henderson and Wines ad POD. Some risk on Karnezis & Mitchell though. Have you considered D.Martin as F2?

Danners16 · 05/03/2015 at 20:50
Nice team not worth wasting around $90,000 by having De Goey on the bench, could use that money to upgrade Langdon. Might not be wise going three of the best elite premiums out on the same round either in the byes (Ablett, Pendlebury, Fyfe)

Dean · 05/03/2015 at 19:26
Too much cash left over. look at how you can spend that to better insure not burning a trade

jimmy7 · 05/03/2015 at 19:37
risky D3 to D6

Ultimae Wingman · 06/03/2015 at 11:19
Hi jimmy7
Valid comment re D3-6. Ibbotson & Whitecross worth the risk, with Goddard & Maynard on the bench. Considering Lever as D6 to repace Brown. Your thoughts also on Wines v Martin as M5?

Roscoe · 06/03/2015 at 17:53
LIds b4 Danger – gives u DPP …

keenbutclueless · 05/03/2015 at 19:15
Top 3 mids all out in Rd 12 bye. Very solid

Ultimate Wingman · 05/03/2015 at 20:53
Thx jimmy7. It’s a game full of risk!

Donavan · 05/03/2015 at 22:42
Like your team, with the exception of Bellchambers as R2 (and without cover)
You have both Higgins & H.Goddard in defence, both are Def/Fwd swings. I would move H.Goddard to the forward-line to enable that swing capability, particularly as our defence and forward lines are very rookie reliant at the beginning of this season.

MarcoPolo · 05/03/2015 at 21:59
pretty good.

Donavan · 05/03/2015 at 22:48
Davo,
Good team.
Not sure about Burgoyne, his a great player, but the Hawks are so even, and rarely have top scorers.
You could also open up the Def/Fwd swing by placing H.Goddard in the forward line to swing with Higgins as required.

Jack · 05/03/2015 at 17:58
Any suggestions for replacements would be helpful too

keenbutclueless · 05/03/2015 at 19:17
Top 3 mids all out in Rd 12 bye. very solid team

Jack · 06/03/2015 at 12:59
Thanks Keenbutclueless. Yeah that round 12 bye is a killer for most but I will worry about that when it comes

Donavan · 05/03/2015 at 22:53
Good team, no major holes.
Only query is on Taylor Duryea, as a Hawthorn supporter i see him as between player 20-24 in our club, not always guaranteed a game, particularly when playing teams with big forward lines, and we stack the back with height & strength with Lake, Frawley, Straton, etc.

Jack · 06/03/2015 at 12:59
Thanks for the feedback Donavan. Might upgrade him to a langdon from collingwood then as he is their general down back

Danners16 · 05/03/2015 at 20:52
Hey Chenzo, not really worth having the whole starting midfield $200,000 and above. As much as Parker is a good player, you could downgrade him and upgrade Clurey into a premium defender

MarcoPolo · 05/03/2015 at 21:57
Don't mind Parker tbh. No one is really touching him, he may be priced high but has proved he can score well and consistently.

PreviouslyOnLost · 05/03/2015 at 22:33
Seems pretty solid mate. Hopefully those rookies play. I've got a similar structure and relying on DEF rookies to play on field.

Danners16 · 05/03/2015 at 20:56
Hi Sean, might be wise to maybe swap Wines/Swallow/Selwood to someone that has the round 11 bye as there bye falls on the same round and you will get a few more points that week and there will be less hassles. Other than that, a good team

t_woof · 07/03/2015 at 02:34
Hey Zac,
Outside of your defence, team looks quite good. But hey, defence has been like hell this pre season.
Not 100% sold on Turnover Tobe's as M5, but he can certainly find the pill….just needs to learn how to hit a target by foot. Maybe he can handball to Griffen all year.
2 x 200K rookies in the middle is interesting….may need to end up going with 1 x 200K, then another < 150K rook. Inject that extra coin down back if Whitecross doesn't cut the mustard.
Concerned about Leuenberger after this evening. Running with the same Ruck set up myself. I'm going to restructure my team without him now. I'd advise at looking at some alternative options and structures now.
Can't knock your forward line. Looks superb.

freshenup · 13/03/2015 at 22:45
Sell whitex, brown & nvb for saad, goddard & krakouer. Upgrade knight for a higher priced forward. Just my opinion. Good luck.

t_woof · 07/03/2015 at 02:43
Hey Jamie,
D1 to D4 looks good to me. Not sure on Buckley and Rohan, but it is early in the NAB. Though Rohan 5 disposals tonight is concerning. I'd look at replacing one of them with Clancee Pearce.
Get Goddard out of your mid field. Waste there. Upgrade him to a ultra premium, or to Griffen/Andy Swallow at a similar price.
Mid field looks a little skinny, and lacks Captain options too. Gaz, then nothing….can't consider Barlow a captain option. I'd be wanting Rockliff, Pendles or Fyfe in there.
I like the ballsy Jack Steven selection. After tonight's game, Heeney could be a possible starting option.
Rucks look good.
Forward also look good. Motlop selection, lovely!! He's on my short list of forwards (can't decide!!).

t_woof · 07/03/2015 at 02:51
Hey Scano,
D1 to D3 looks good. Didn't mind the Savage pick until he got injured. Could be worth swapping him for Clancee Pearce, and banking some coin at the same time. Not sure re D5 and D6…..have no idea who Schade is…..hopefully some rookies present themselves and you can start them in those positions. Edwards could be lock if Dons players get banned.
Like the JPK selection. Looked as though he hadn't missed a beat tonight. Not sure going in with both Crouch and Wines. I'd be inclined to upgrade one to an ultra premium. Looks too much spend at M7 and M8 for mine. Would only want to spend 350K on those two positions at max. Heeney looked good this evening for Sydney.
Commend the balls to select Bellchambers…..i couldn't do it without seeing him in NAB series. Especially with his injury riddled history.
Forwards look good. Knights could be a nice selection. Think he will deter quite a lot with his price tag. If stays sound could hit you 75-80.

WebSpyda · 05/03/2015 at 19:09
Ryder should be cheaper later I would think. Buddy is expensive and inconsistent early IMO.

Dean · 05/03/2015 at 19:24
All KPP have a drop and are prime picking around rds 11-14. The buffalo curve.

Danners16 · 05/03/2015 at 21:02
Hi Bone, I would be happy with those premiums to, but in round 12, who is going to be your captain? 4 elite midfield premiums will be out on the same round. Everything else looks good though

The bone · 05/03/2015 at 22:14
Barlows been in and out of the side. I'll look at replacing him to try avoid 4 mids out in Rd 12.
Cheers for the feedback Danners.

Jimi · 05/03/2015 at 20:34
I like your overall structure and I have the exact same ruck setup and very similar forward setup. I'm also keenly watching Rampe to see if he is going to take Ceski's spot.
Personally I'd avoid mid-priced midfielders like Rich, I don't think they pay off enough to be worth it (got burnt with all of mine last year) so this year I'm purely going guns and rookies. Also considering they's only 20k difference I'd try to swap out Martin for Lids, Lids is just way more consistent.

Dean · 05/03/2015 at 19:17
Trying to fit Vandenberg in my side atm though so many good options. Savage is injured and there are so many better options than C. Beams

Dean · 05/03/2015 at 19:19
Bellchambers instead of C. Beams provides some Ruck coverage

WebSpyda · 05/03/2015 at 19:25
Thx Dean good point

DeccasG · 05/03/2015 at 19:18
UPDATE: have taken out hodge for newnes and leunberger for zac smith

MarcoPolo · 05/03/2015 at 21:56
beware Zac smith, will be sharing rucking duties with nicholls all season. can't see either of them going big because of this. Personally i'd have the likes of swan, deledio and mitchell in my forwards as there are plenty of good options on offer in the mids.

Scott · 05/03/2015 at 20:50
I like your rucks, not too many teams have 2 premos, could be an advantage.

t_woof · 07/03/2015 at 02:59
Hey Benjamin,
Your side is quite different to the majority…..i actually don't mind it…..if Rance could be upgraded to say a Hodge, Shaw, Hibberd…even more so!
Balance in the midfield is good. 4 proven, 1 who gets every chance to take his game even further with Liberatore out, and three starting rooks.
Gun, Gun Rucks.
That forward line is good!!! Keep JJK under the hat though (sshhhh) …..he'll explode early.
With the exception of Rance, and lets hope the def rooks play…good team mate. Nice balance of provens and some very nice uniques. Good work!!

Benjamin · 07/03/2015 at 19:19
I’ve upgraded newnes to shaw and kept Rance, Rance is a spoiling machine and can rank up the disposals. Downgraded beams to lachie Neale coz there’s to many Brisbane midfielders and they’ll all hog the ball from each other, and I took Salem out and put karneziz in. Looks a lot better. Still not keen on hambling but we’ll see

Jimmy Joe · 05/03/2015 at 20:00
Mate, I'd love to pick Duncan but my balls are far too small. I'm a massive fan of his and reckon he'll explode. Not sold on Minson however. I'm tending towards Maric at this early stage.

Ricky · 05/03/2015 at 21:18
Might be a biased pick, I’m a Cats fan

Dean · 05/03/2015 at 19:22
look at the draw of your mid premiums and see who you could pick up in the bye rounds and invest that money in the fwd upgrading clark to a premium.

Danners16 · 05/03/2015 at 20:43
Mitchell

Scott · 05/03/2015 at 20:55
I like them both but would go Mitchell, I think he will have a breakout season this year.
I also had Delidio but took him out when I heard he was carrying a sore achillies, something to keep an eye on.

t_woof · 07/03/2015 at 03:06
Very tough question Jimmy. I have both on my short list of forwards……..i still haven't decided either yet mate.
I do think Motlop has the "ability/potential" to go a fraction higher than Tom Mitchell…..but yeah, splitting hairs.

t_mitch · 07/03/2015 at 10:05
i dont like either, i have j.martin personally, alot like bellchambers there even though we wont get to see him untill round one at the earliest, ive also considered 3 onfield rookies which i dont think is a bad thing either depending on what structure you want/have

Scott · 05/03/2015 at 20:24
I reckon crouch will be a good POD he's in my team!

Danners16 · 05/03/2015 at 20:43
Crouch

t_woof · 07/03/2015 at 03:08
Griffen.
Proven gun.

MarcoPolo · 05/03/2015 at 21:50
got cover in your mids? ablett, pendles, JPK, heeney all miss R12. looks pretty solid tho.

t_woof · 07/03/2015 at 03:11
Hey Damon,
I think Smith is too expensive for a defender off the back of one season. Do like D2 to D4. Whitecross, lets hope he surfaces sooner rather than later.
Midfield looks good, and runs deep. Wasn't sold on Boekhorst and Freeman after NAB 1…..monitor them closely in NAB 2.
Ballsy selection with Bellchambers considering we won't get to see him in the NAB Series. Has an injury riddled history. Quite the risk for mine.
Forward line looks really good. Bontempelli at F4, like it!!

Damon · 08/03/2015 at 09:59
thanks t woof

Scott · 05/03/2015 at 21:00
I like them both but would go Mitchell, I think he will have a breakout season this year.

NOAH · 05/03/2015 at 21:16
thx i'm picking swan and mitchell i was thinking of trading clark or steele up to a premo forward

Scott · 05/03/2015 at 21:02
Hey Noah Scharenberg is coming back from ACL I don't think he will play.

Mario · 05/03/2015 at 21:07
Jock what are your thought?

Chino · 05/03/2015 at 21:29
Wow that’s hard to read,let me try again (sorry hard on my phone) I’ll leave the benched rookies out this time as at this stage they are constantly changing:
B: HODGE, HURN, IBBOTSON,
GEARY, C.PEARCE, H.GODDARD
M: ABLETT, PENDLES, SELWOOD, BOAK,
B.CROUCH, A.SWALLOW, ANDERSON, HEENEY
R: NATANUI, Z.SMITH
F: DELEDIO, GODDARD, SWAN, T.MITCHELL
J.MARTIN, HOGAN

Avzmo · 05/03/2015 at 22:25
Hallahan is to awkwardly priced for me. I think you've picked it right to trade him down and pick up hendo in defence or something. I can see Hendo being top 20 in defence this year, a lot more then i can see hallahan doing it. Are you putting him in your team to keep him? If so very interesting POD. If not I think you can get better value for money and more cash generation elsewhere.

tom · 06/03/2015 at 08:59
Yeah I think youre right with a lot of that Avzmo. I was going to use Hallahan as a stepping stone player but good point about value.
Thanks for the help mate!

Jimmy Joe · 05/03/2015 at 21:48
Bont at Fwd 3 seems a bit risky. I'd forgive at Fwd 4 though. I kind of feel like a Tom Mitchell or even a Motlop might assist your FWD line. Duffield might be injured so keep an eye on that. I like your mids, especially the Lewis pick. Not sold on Leuy I'm afraid. Good luck!

Avzmo · 05/03/2015 at 22:22
Second Jimmy Joe on this one. Your forward line isn't strong enough, especially with so many options this year.
Also keep your eyes on a replacement for WhiteX cos I don't think he'll make the 22.

Jimmy Joe · 05/03/2015 at 21:44
I have Shaw.
I'd take Savage (if his injury isn't too bad).
Goldy.

Avzmo · 05/03/2015 at 22:21
I'm not sure why you are attached to these particular players, as there seem to be better players around the same price. But I'll play the game…
Shaw, Savage, Goldy.

jimmy7 · 05/03/2015 at 23:10
who else??

@t_woof · 07/03/2015 at 03:21
Shaw
Savage has got injured, so rules him out. I'd have to say Geary out of those three. McDonald will be a player, but 70's will see him out in 2015.
Splitting hairs, both valid selections…..Smallest of leans to Goldstein in the durability department.

Avzmo · 05/03/2015 at 22:20
Awkwardly priced, so many other cheaper options around.

PJ8 · 06/03/2015 at 08:18
NO! Horrible price and KPP

Jimmy Joe · 05/03/2015 at 21:46
I quite like this team mate, but I can't help but think you've over spent in the guts. I know most of us are going lighter in defence but if I was to make a suggestion it'd be to beef up the likes of Whitecross, or if you want to keep him, upgrade a rookie. You may have to find your cash from the mids so perhaps downgrading Rich to a rook or or choosing one of Griff or Swallow to downgrade to a Cripps or Biggs might allow you to add a bit more certainty back in defence. Just my two cents. Good luck mate.

jimmy7 · 05/03/2015 at 21:50
not to bad. other ways to get money into the backline is by taking gray down to a goddard or someone, unless your real keen on him cause his a beast, also rich could be changed with Van berlo or a rookie, that's all i've got?

Avzmo · 05/03/2015 at 22:19
I can see what your going for. Your midfield will get lots of points early. You Beaut!!!
However, you have no cash generation in that side, there are very few rookies with massive potential to upgrade your side, and you will pay for it from the bye rounds onwards. You have to think about running 5 or so <250k players in the midfield so that you can generate some good money.
By sacrificing Griffen or Swallow as well as Rich or Hallahan, you can make back around 400k. You can use that to get two midpricers in defence or one premo, either way…. future you will thank you for it.

@Seekersupacoach · 06/03/2015 at 00:06
I've taken your advices. I've removed Swallow and Hallahan brought in Sexton and Newton in the mids, C Pearce and MacMillan in the backline for starters. Might also lose Griffen and maybe T Mitchell

fatboyfat7 · 08/03/2015 at 12:41
After those changes our teams are extremely similar. I'm keeping TM though but have been weighing up swapping Griffen for J Steven

mick · 17/03/2015 at 14:42
fwds mitchell to clarke 250 mids rich de goey to krackour 100 rich to freeman 240 upgrade belly to goldy leaves around 300 4 upgrade in backs

Jimmy Joe · 05/03/2015 at 21:50
Swap Cox to Read on your Ruck bench. More loophole options as Read has more late weekend games.

Braedyn · 05/03/2015 at 21:54
Okay, thanks for the help

Avzmo · 05/03/2015 at 22:15
Laverde won't get a run in my opinion. Move Lambert or Krakeour down for another mid rookie.

keenbutclueless · 06/03/2015 at 19:30
Your top 3 mids are all out in Rd 12 bye. Whitecross is a bit of an unknown atm. Is he playing or not? no NAB appearances so far is concerning. I am less convinced on Steven because of his interrupted pre-season. Love the Bont selection. Risk in the rucks with 2 injury prone guys with no cover. Comes off, will be a mater-stroke

PreviouslyOnLost · 05/03/2015 at 22:41
Massive call on Judd. Hope it pays off! Lot of risk with Swallow, Steven, Judd and Biggs. Only a suggestion, but maybe down grade one to a rookie and upgrade one to an ultra premium in Fyfe, Rockliff etc?

OUS · 05/03/2015 at 23:49
Maybe Priddis? Don't want to be over exposed at bye rounds.

pauly walnuts · 06/03/2015 at 10:13
OUS – Are you a Carlton supporter ? Judd & Thomas ?? Hope they work for you could be a huge POD

OUS · 06/03/2015 at 17:00
Lions supporter man, if these two deliver 95+ I will be a rich man.

Matthew · 17/03/2015 at 12:55
you are so fkn dumb, what a shithouse team

tommykmoore · 17/03/2015 at 14:23
Matthew your comment add's no value whatsoever to this discussion and its not what this community is about!! check yourself!!
OUS – this year especially teams will need to have some POD's, however; you may have selected 3 – 5 too many. Look to find replacements for Shaw, Thomas, Judd or Steven (think you should only pick one of these guys) and Taylor, Lumamba or Hendo.
just my thoughts!

James · 18/03/2015 at 14:15
OUS firstly love the clackers on you to go such a different team although I believe it may be too optimistic. Juddy is a gun although I think he may only play around 10-15 games this year big call but at his age and history you don't just lose those injuries and niggles in one good pre season. I like Steven he could easily average 100+ this year Swallow is a gun but I think if you don't want him at years end dont take the punt.
Bellchambers another huge risk and for me Nic Nat looking like more of a risk every day. Much to think about pal and surely you have to agree that you can't go into round 1 with that many risks

keenbutclueless · 06/03/2015 at 19:31
Top 3 mids all out in Rd 12 bye. Don't mind the Rohan selection, controversial and a gamble, but could pay off. Maybe reconsider if he doesn't get the Malceski role.

keenbutclueless · 06/03/2015 at 21:31
can I take that back after he has spudded it up big time in the NAB Cup game! Get him out, if you haven't already

Rich · 07/03/2015 at 10:28
Haha already out, traded to Vlastuin

keenbutclueless · 06/03/2015 at 19:33
Huge midfield – a real jaw-dropper. Envious man. Top 3 cop the rd 12 bye, but I guess Selwood and Sloane make up for that a bit.

keenbutclueless · 06/03/2015 at 19:35
For a team with no Ablett thought you would run deeper in the midfield. Surprised you have so little cash leftover

keenbutclueless · 06/03/2015 at 19:38
solid team. Sexton a POD. Risk on the 2 rooks in defence

fatboyfat7 · 06/03/2015 at 10:23
I'd say Macrae could be better on but otherwise I like it.Saad up forward though? I'd hold back for a better look, he's been out awhile…

PreviouslyOnLost · 06/03/2015 at 14:58
Cheers for the feedback. I think Saad is best 22 and will be wanting to cement himself with an 80-85 ave… but if other cheaper rookies look solid, I might change.

PJ8 · 06/03/2015 at 08:04
Goddard should play, named for NAB 2 so will be good to have a look at him. Currently in my team.
Freeman should be a lock, battled a little NAB 1 but sure he will be fine. In my team.
Daniel wasn't named NAB 1 in a very young WB squad which is a worry. Not in my team.
Edwards could be great depending on ASADA result. Not sure if he will play if they are all cleared. Not in my team.
Others I currently have are:
Hamling, Boekhurst, Krackour, Steele, Hogan, Clark.
Saad (GC), Vandenberg and Lambert, all need to be elevated but looked the goods NAB 1

Mick · 06/03/2015 at 05:13
I think Bartel is s great point of difference.
On the other end Harry Taylor burnt me hard last year.

keenbutclueless · 06/03/2015 at 19:05
Birchall is out injured.

keenbutclueless · 06/03/2015 at 19:40
Birchall is injured. Not sold on Smedts – monitor his NAB form. C Beams also draws mixed opinion in the SC community!

keenbutclueless · 06/03/2015 at 19:41
Like it. Only risk is the backline rooks – but most of us are facing that!

Mick · 06/03/2015 at 05:11
Sorry newnes not newbie

keenbutclueless · 06/03/2015 at 19:01
actually I like it. I can accept the logic that there are no standout def premiums or def rookies, so a mid=price strategy is justified. Might just prove to be a winning mind-set this year

Mick · 07/03/2015 at 21:01
Cheers Keen,
Bellchambers looked okay today

keenbutclueless · 06/03/2015 at 19:03
consider moving H Goddard to def. Reckon he's a better chance at playing than Saad. Then consider Krakour or Lambert for the fwd line. looks good!

fatboyfat7 · 06/03/2015 at 10:29
Have a lot of similarites to you actually and also worried about structure. I dropped Rich for another rookie.

Sean · 06/03/2015 at 10:35
Ok i just think rich will rise so not sure

keenbutclueless · 06/03/2015 at 18:55
top 3 mids all out in Rd12 bye

keenbutclueless · 06/03/2015 at 18:54
def looks a little bit weak. but the rest looks solid. Actually feels like you should have more cash left!

MCP086 · 06/03/2015 at 21:30
Yeah I’m hoping all the prems come down coz they all seem very rich. Thanks mate

OUS · 06/03/2015 at 17:35
Need to spend that $300,000 firstly, think you should get maybe a midpricer mid player such as Wines or Swallow or upgrade to a more solid d3

keenbutclueless · 06/03/2015 at 18:49
your top 3 mids all out in RD 12 bye. Consider upgrade a 200k rook to Crouch/Swallow

fatboyfat7 · 07/03/2015 at 13:56
Ok, thanks for the comments. Will toss up between Wines or Swallow I think…

keenbutclueless · 06/03/2015 at 18:48
looks strong. Your rucks are both a little injury prone and you don't have cover. Many teams are punting on no cover – understandably. Maybe you could consider downgrading Beams or Kennedy to a Griffen/Wines and use the cash to upgrade Salem to TBC? just a suggestion.

John · 08/03/2015 at 07:26
Thanks for that mate, yeah rucks are my only kind of worry at the moment.
Didn’t think of the salem up grade gives another way of looking at things!
Bit to think about now lol

keenbutclueless · 06/03/2015 at 18:43
like the Ryder/Lycett cover. not seen too often. Maybe one premium midfielder short. Consider only having 1 200k rook in the middle and upgrade either Griffen or Wines to a super-premium. (Unless you are absolutely convinced both will be top 10 by year end)

keenbutclueless · 06/03/2015 at 18:39
hard to fault Phil. Fingers crossed (like everyone else) on the 2 rooks in def getting a game. One of the few teams that doesn't have either Delidio or Martin in it. Could be POD.

keenbutclueless · 06/03/2015 at 18:35
solid. hard to fault structurally really. just comes down to choices – Biggs?NVB/Newton. Biggs maybe behind the other 2 atm.

keenbutclueless · 06/03/2015 at 18:33
probably needs one more super-premium mid. question marks over Gray and Malceski at those prices for mine. Think keeping both is costing you the extra mid depth you need. maybe consider downgrading one of those to add to your mid.

@t_woof · 07/03/2015 at 03:30
Hey Naughts,
Smith is too expensive for a premium defender off the back of one good season. Prefer the likes of Hodge, Hibberd, Shaw in front of him.
Rohan only had 5 disposals v Brisbane this evening…..concerning. Watch him closely to see if he can improve his output in NAB2.
Midfield looks good. Plenty of people drinking wine this season.
Rucks also look good.
Forward line also. F1 to F3 provens. Then hopefully enough rooks to fill F4-F6. Hogan is a definite lock.

r2d2 · 06/03/2015 at 14:14
Could potentially cut cockatoo , to free up coin , but am thinking he will def play round 1?

keenbutclueless · 06/03/2015 at 18:29
personally I think Rich is F6 or F7, but not F4. Reckon F4 and F5 can only be one trade from a super-premo, or one that you think will be a premo. Not sure how you get to Griffin/Wines type here. 2 x 200k rooks – maybe downgrade one of them and start Boekhurst.

keenbutclueless · 06/03/2015 at 18:22
Ablett, Pendlebury and Fyfe all have Rd 12 bye.

bennnno · 06/03/2015 at 17:27
Like this one. boekhorst to anderson would be my only tip… but further form is needed 🙂

OUS · 06/03/2015 at 17:48
Redirect def spending to mid or you're going to be chasing the premium mids all season

bart · 07/03/2015 at 17:48
OUS, who would you take put and put in?

keenbutclueless · 06/03/2015 at 18:20
just not sure about Whitecross and VJ in the defence. Not sure either will play

@t_woof · 07/03/2015 at 03:40
Hey Seb,
Perhaps a touch too much spend across D1 to D3 has exposed D5 & D6?
I'd look at downgrading one of Simpson or Smith (I'd go Smith) to a Ibbotson or Clancee Pearce. Then injecting some cash into D5, therefore only exposing one rookie defender at D6. Rookie defenders are looking thin.
At the moment, i do like the defensive set up of: Premium/Premium/Newnes/Ibbotson/Pearce/Rookie.
Remainder of your team is looking good!! Couple unique's in Murphy & Nicholls…..always got to have a couple of unique's to separate your team from the masses.
Good work mate!!

Roscoe · 06/03/2015 at 17:51
Sorry – any thoughts thanks and appreciated…

keenbutclueless · 06/03/2015 at 18:19
Scharenberg injured. Not sure on Durdin – reckon he is in the best 22? McKenzie is out for the season.

keenbutclueless · 06/03/2015 at 18:20
sorry – assume you mean WC McKenzie

Roscoe · 07/03/2015 at 15:21
no Trent McK (GCS)…

keenbutclueless · 06/03/2015 at 18:14
with your mids – JPK, Sidebottom and Priddis are consistent, but all rarely deliver a massive score. This means GAJ is always your captain, and you probably wont be able to exploit the captains loophole as often.
not sure on Taylor Adams – maybe Greenwood has that spot in the Collingwood lineup for now. Maybe drop him for a rook (reckon there are better choices in the fwd line than the backline), and upgrade one of your rooks in defence

keenbutclueless · 06/03/2015 at 18:17
if you are confident in the fwd rooks, then maybe it is better to have one more there rather than 2 x 200k rooks in the middle. Take Mtchell out of the fwd line, and upgrade to Crouch or Swallow

@SeanySamp · 06/03/2015 at 20:12
Alright I'll look into it. Cheers

Doc2Drej · 07/03/2015 at 10:47
Wow, I have Newnes at D1 or D2, but you seem to have stacked the back line big time

Doc2Drej · 07/03/2015 at 10:45
I’d say a bit light on for premium mids, I’d downgrade 1 or 2 of your 500k defenders to give you the cash to turn sidebottom or wines into Pendlebury or Selwood or Fyfe

Matt · 07/03/2015 at 08:11
83,000 left in bank.

Doc2Drej · 07/03/2015 at 10:40
Swap karnezis for Mitch Clark to start off with. Then, I’d downgrade one of your premium mids to griffen or swallow or rich or hallahan, as it isn’t a great idea to have the 5 most expensive players in the same midfield. Take the money you save there to upgrade one of your playing rookies in the back line to someone like Kristian Jaksch, as I reckon 2 playing rookies is too much in defence

Doc2Drej · 07/03/2015 at 10:43
Also I wouldn’t trust Leuey with his body, along with the fact that Martin is arguably brissys number 1 ruck and will take a lot of points off of Leuey

t_mitch · 07/03/2015 at 11:14
love the mids, i think you must start with 5 of the top 10 mids but you have just gone bang and got the top 5 i think its great. id be worried about mitchell, purely personal as i think he is very over rated and dont think he fits in with longmires game plans, as proven last year. and im scared off bellchambers as we wont even get a look until round 1 at the earliest. overall i like it

t_mitch · 07/03/2015 at 10:28
i think you may have forgot about ablett, i looked twice but couldnt see him, ill go grab my glasses and have another look as im sure you wouldnt have forgot him

t_mitch · 07/03/2015 at 11:01
luenberger scored that as a clear number 1 ruck with nobody close to him as r2 now he has been clearly replaced my martin as number 1 at the club, wont get near the numbers he once had. so i have not even considered him this year, but i may be wrong as ALOT of supercoaches still have him in their plans so best of luck to him but a clear no for me

Seb · 07/03/2015 at 13:21
you have 18 players with a round 12 bye

jmy77777 · 07/03/2015 at 13:17
i dont know about you, all your team looks good, apart from your ruck, i wouldnt feel confortable sleeping with grundy and tbc, even if your did get ryder to help

Donkey on the Edge · 20/03/2015 at 15:23
IMO
Pearce will suffer as a result of the Crowley suspension, Whitecross isnt a given for round 1 and maybe Gibbo is a better option than Shaw.
GAJ….. difficult call maybe look at his output from Rd1 and 2 given the shoulder concerns.
It will take a lot for Greene to improve by the numbers your looking at and I think there is better value elsewhere
Not convinced on NVB – maybe look at Cripps instead.
Will Freeman get a geurnsey?
Big money on the rucks….. Maric may be better value than Goldy but only time will tell , watch Nic Nat this weekend and have a back up strategy there as all the noises recently were that he was struggling again.
Franklin and Swan…… on their day awesome just not sure if their day is done. Franklin has had a great pre season so maybe gets the benefit of the doubt . Swan however is a different matter. Happy to be corrected or shouted down but IMO he is on his way out. I think the pies will rest him significantly this season and that cant be good for his return.
I think maybe you should trim a premo mid (premo includes Neale but i suggest Greene) and re invest in upgrading Pearce and Swan.
Good Luck

Ryan · 20/03/2015 at 23:59
hey donkey on the edge, this was last week, after hearing from ross lyon about pearce, he was kicked out of the team, and may look into bewick from lions, whitecross is out of the team as well, wont play early games,
About ablett, i know, but ill hold onto him until last minute, not too worried about that yet
Swan had one bad year, after amazing years, but tell me which players are better than him at that price? not many, ill stick with swan, no they wouldnt rest him, collingwood will struggle to make in the eight.
Big money on rucks, yes, set and forget is the best option, ill see how nic nat goes,

@emhoy · 08/03/2015 at 10:38
If GAJ is fit you have to pick him,take a look at this early season scores you won't be able to afford him later.

Weary · 08/03/2015 at 12:08
Feeling like not enough POD to give me an edge. Should I drop Martin for Franklin maybe?

Lucas · 08/03/2015 at 13:38
I Wouldn't recommend changing to a POD for the sake of it. Only if you see them being a keeper (change of role or team)

Weary · 08/03/2015 at 19:24
Yeah. Good advice. Goes against what I would usually do. Too much time to fiddle with my team!

Dools · 08/03/2015 at 14:49
Hi Weary,
WhiteX is not IMO in Hawks best 22 so put a line through him… Kelly needs to be lucky to get a call up .Really like the MacMillan Pick mate. shows you to be a student of this game.
Like the Rucks and Fwd line but we have only 2 players in common Swan and one other LOL (not Richmond boys either)
Your a Nth Melbourne supporter eh??

Weary · 08/03/2015 at 19:22
Hahaha, yeah I am. Usually don’t pick Nth players as there is two reasons for them to
pi$$ me off then. Do see value in Wells and MacMillan tho. Yeah, Whitecross has to go. Just gotta find some cash. Cheers Doors!

aussiekid · 08/03/2015 at 16:21
good team just think you got way too many risks like (gibson, pearce, van berlo, martin) could work out great but think you want only 2 of those players at most, just my opinion 🙂

dmcleod87 · 08/03/2015 at 18:21
thanks yeah i was going for value and the possibility to make some $$ off players like van berlo/clarke….bit of a risk vs reward strategy. team is likely to change a few more times depending on NAB cup form

aussiekid · 08/03/2015 at 16:25
both can be very inconsistent, do you have swan and mitchell already if not look at them.
i wouldnt have any in my team but if any i would take wingard but he can have really low games.

Ricky · 09/03/2015 at 12:20
Too thin in the back line even considering how poor it is this year. With the extra $163, might be worth upping Whitecross to Ibbotson, Geary, potentially Vlastuin…
Whitecross could see the vest a little this season and is expensive for the limited potential updside.

Budstar · 09/03/2015 at 11:17
Sorry left Anderson out of Mids 🙂

Mozz · 09/03/2015 at 18:11
Looks like a pretty solid team! Good job with playing this game all the way from Brazil too.
I think your MID is pretty solid, wouldn't make any changes to that.
I think that in the DEF, you should get rid of Geary. He may be a solid 70-80 point scorer, but you have 3 St,Kilda players in the one position. If St.Kilda have a shocking game (and i'm sure they will have a few this year), their players will score lower. Swap him to a rookie and you'll have enough for a corrective trade after round 1 🙂

LETSGETTROPICAL · 09/03/2015 at 18:35
What kind of coin are you left with?

Budstar · 10/03/2015 at 00:47
20k left mate

Budstar · 10/03/2015 at 00:45
Cheers Mozz, played last year in the US and did alright hoping the same this year in Brazil as well. Good idea having cash set aside for corrective trades for first couple of rounds, just not convinced with the rookies down back. Was hoping for an avg of 80 by Geary Langdon and Pearce and upgrade them around bye rounds. Was after around 450 initially down back. Go hard or go home in the Mids need to go deep, good rookie options there and in the forward line. Not convinced with Luey in the ruck but a cheaper option there to go deeper else where initially, would prefer Nic Nat and Goldie in rucks.

Mozz · 09/03/2015 at 17:36
Not sold on Lobbe. With the addition of Ryder to the Port side, they now have 2 rucks. Ruck roles would be shared between them which = less points for both

Mozz · 09/03/2015 at 17:30
Leave C.Pearce in your side for the moment and see how he goes in the final NAB challange matches. Priced at that price, you would want him to score around 70-80 a week, which i think he can do quite comfortably.
I would also upgrade Heppell. Who you go with is up to you, I always choose GAJ #1 & Pendles #2 in my mid, however Priddis is my M3 this year.so either choice is valid. Priddis will step it up this year after winnning the brownlow.
You want at least 3 players that you can be assured will score 115+ each week and for that reason, upgrade Heppell.

Mozz · 09/03/2015 at 17:24
Personally i wouldn't go with Lumumba, he has never really been a SC scorer. Downgrade him to a rookie and then you can upgrade somewhere else or just keep the money. I always like to leave at least 100k in the bank at the start of round 1 so that you can have a corrective trade up when someone in your team spunks it up.

Budstar · 10/03/2015 at 01:22
Nice team plenty of cash in the bank still, good call. Your team is fairly similiar too mine. I like Brodie Smith down back gun, not sure about 2 rookies onfield this year down back. Nathan Brown will never score much more than 50 and is a Supercoach Spud but he's in the Pies best 22 and will get games maybe extra cover down there? Great team all the best this year 🙂

@crawf68 · 09/03/2015 at 18:43
123k left

Lion King · 10/03/2015 at 12:02
Love the kolo pick, wish i could fit him in, will play hb and wing this year…
nice mids, great depth
watch nic nat, until he plays a game i am not sold
Laverde nursing some tendinitis, wait til he plays…
nice team!

PKJH · 09/03/2015 at 21:10
Top 3 mids with rd12 bye

Josh · 09/03/2015 at 21:18
cheers…
other than that any thoughts?

Mozz · 09/03/2015 at 21:20
swallow AND wells in the same team?

Mozz · 09/03/2015 at 21:20
please elaborate

Lion King · 10/03/2015 at 11:56
Karnezis is a tease, poor attitude and work ethic, get rid of him. Watch closely on naitinui, hasnt played a minute yet could be a worry. nice pod with gibson. maybe upgrade someone in fwd line with the cash u have

Budstar · 10/03/2015 at 14:10
Looks great Mids, Forwards and Rucks, but the Backs not strong enough 3 of your rookies will be lucky to get a game, Whitecross not in Hawks teams best 22 anymore, Henderson is a great Pod but competing against Smith and Jaensh both had big years for the crows!! You may need to take a premo from forward line and put premo down back. Better rookie forward options than down back. Also Gaz Pendles and Fyfe same bye round something to consider. All the best with your team and 2015

Tim Darbyshire · 10/03/2015 at 14:22
You 2 Mate, cheers

themisfitssc · 12/03/2015 at 11:32
good spread although there are a few risky picks but if they pay off you are well on your way. especially in your forward line with the Mitchel duo and j martin, back line also but ya well on the way champ

themisfitssc · 12/03/2015 at 11:33
I like it 🙂

Keg · 17/03/2015 at 10:16
Hi mate,
I like it, some brave calls that could make all the difference.
Pearce concerns me now that it looks like Crowley will be out. I reckon he’s gonna become their #1 tagger now. Whether that effects his scores, we will have to wait and see. Edwards is a nice POD.
Like the mids, 5 premiums is bang on the momey IMO.
Rucks the same as mine (different bench) so obviously I rate that line. 🙂
And finally, any forward line with swan at F4 is pretty damn strong
I finished mid 1600s last year, looking to improve again- I misht have to watch out for you taking my spot in the top 500! My team is down the page a bit.
Cheers

Nathan · 17/03/2015 at 10:49
I'd drop Franklin, move Swan forward, add then find another midfield option… ie Wines/Neale etc.

jimmo · 16/03/2015 at 22:48
Maybe a Geary/Hunt/Seedsman pick for WhiteX – wont play round 1/2, might play 3, depends what happens down at box hill.
I'm not too sure..
Up to you I guess.
Pretty strong team otherwise/

Stickman · 16/03/2015 at 22:58
Thanks jimmo only have 25k in the bank, who would I downgrade to free up cash?

jimmo · 16/03/2015 at 23:11
Very tough question actually. Not alot of places that are not worth investing in..
If your happy with that team – Back yourself!

dognino · 16/03/2015 at 23:34
Don't know about Alcock, I think there might be a few others a bit cheaper for similar output, all risky tho, and who knows who will continue they're form into the season proper . If you're keen to go the mid price risks, Bewick is scoring better than Alcock and 80k cheaper, or maybe geary, then you can upgrade whitecross to a jakcsh or Simon white. And might need to move on rainbow to maybe saad. Depends who plays R1 tho
Also I'm not keen on nankervis or Naismith getting regular games with the swans to warrant a bench spot, again if they are named R1 you probly need to pick one, but you could save yourself another 10k downgrading to read if it's going to be a dead position anyway

Stickman · 16/03/2015 at 23:53
Thanks for the feedback, selected Adcock as he averaged 90 in wins last year and was hoping he would take Hanley's role at half back in the first half of the season. Will now definitely look into bewick and simon white, would like to see how White goes against Geelong first. Make a good point on the rookies at the moment. Have nankervis and viojo as I believe it easier to downgrade to the likes of Saad and Read, rather than getting caught with a lack of a spare cash to upgrade to rookies who play rd 1 who might be more expensive.

Keg · 17/03/2015 at 10:01
Not too bad I reckon. Though I think you could free up some cash in your M8 and spend it elsewhere to strengthen that line (eg I think you need one more decent midpriced forward and push Salem back to F5. Also I’m not sold on belchambers, but he will probably prove me wrong)
I just reckon there’s money to be made quicker and easier with midfield rookies than anywhere else this year. And- you need to leave some room for a smokie who kills it and you just HAVE to get in
My side is listed below yours a bit, feel free to pick mine apart in return!

bennnno · 17/03/2015 at 19:47
rockliff / fyfe/ pendles in for ablett. in doubt for rd1…

white_line_fever · 17/03/2015 at 13:03
thanks for the feed back.
Your side is looking good. Liking your mids. And have the same premo forwards. Defence is going to be the make or break situation.. have had hamling in my side numerous times, but scoring ability is a worry. If you are sold on nic nat (like i am), then maybe goldy to Maric to free cash up.. I am not locking anything in till after NAB3 and team announcements, apparently ablett is unsure of round 1 :/
All in all you've got a good side. Have a good year

Keg · 17/03/2015 at 13:50
Cheers mate
Tempted to downgrade Neale to rich so I can upgrade hamling to a Jaksch type and solidify the backs a bit. Will wait and see I guess.
Thanks for your input

Keg · 17/03/2015 at 12:06
Personally I would lose hogan and push bell forward, his points are wasted on the bench. Use cox as ruck bench (still has DPP) and can be swapped with bel if nick Nat does go down

James · 17/03/2015 at 12:17
Keg do you believe Hogan will not score very well? I'm also a little hesitant in having Bellchambers start on the field with ASADA and all.

Keg · 17/03/2015 at 12:43
I reckon hogan will have some good games here and there, but I usually steer well clear of KPP’s, especially young ones.
I agree the whole ASADA thing is a worry, but hopefully it’s all resolved by round 1 so you know whether to go with bel or not

Redgumwon · 17/03/2015 at 13:49
Neither go for a cheap running type forward who might score more than a key position player in average scoring sides

Marco_Polo94 · 18/03/2015 at 18:24
Not a fan of rich but i like the midfield other than that. good in the rucks. forward line looks similar to what a lot of people have who are going to F4. Mid priced defence pretty standard too this season. all in all solid team.

Marco_Polo94 · 18/03/2015 at 18:26
D6 being a $300k+ player is just a waste of coin imo. there will be rookies that emerge, we still have 2 weeks until the season starts. Going to M4 is way too shallow. Anderson, Heeney, Lambert and Krakouer might not even start, and if they do high vest candidates. Rucks look good. Forwards look very strong! but one of those premiums may have to make way to improve your midfield.

Marco_Polo94 · 18/03/2015 at 18:27
Defence looks solid
Mids look solid
Rucks look solid
Forwards look solid
Good team.

vinnymac · 24/03/2015 at 00:42
You must have worked out all preseason because your team is looking very solid.

Danger · 17/03/2015 at 14:45
** ( lambert, steel, freeman)

vinnymac · 24/03/2015 at 00:49
The risks I personally think are high are: not having Ablett and having Luey. Other than that, nice looking team!

Omen · 19/03/2015 at 15:40
Too many zeros!

Mozz · 17/03/2015 at 21:05
I'm not sold on Whitecross either, would rather someone who i could trust.
One option you could do is to trade down one of your FWD premos and trade them for a rookie (because there are so many fwd rookies this year). With all this extra cash, I would consider looking at Langdon from collingwood. With Lumumba leaving collingwood, there's a massive hole to fill up in their defense and Langdon fits in perfectly.
Another option is L.McDonald from North, i think he will score well this year but i won't be picking him because i'm unsure how his role will change with the addition of Higgins

vinnymac · 24/03/2015 at 00:52
Trade Whitecross for S. Edwards or Joel Hambling. Reckon they'll get games

Mozz · 17/03/2015 at 21:01
What is your reasoning behind Bennell? It's a big risk not going with Deledio or Martin

Mozz · 17/03/2015 at 21:00
what is your reasoning behind Kolodjashnij & Hamling?
This year the DEF position is extremely tough & i don't know if taking risks back there is a good idea.

Mozz · 17/03/2015 at 20:57
I'm not sold on Ibbotson or Macmillan. Maybe a good idea would be to downgraed TBC to another fwd rookie, and then you can upgrade one of your defenders (maybe even Brown) to another premo
many people are leaving dangerfield as an upgrade target because he has his bye in round 11. Historically danger has started slowly (remember last year everyone jumped off him) and then ended the year strongly.
i'm not saying that you shouldn't go in with danger, but that's just a thought. Who are you looking to trade up in round 12 after the first bye round?
otherwise a really good team 🙂

richardnguyen94 · 17/03/2015 at 21:26
Cheers Mozz!
yeah plenty of red flags with ibbo and jmac but if healthy both will play every game and play in roles that are sc friendly so i thought it was worth the punt given how little on offer there is in the backline.
fair call about danger, definitely going to consider that; although even if he should start slow again could you see getting him under 600k? After the first bye i was looking to trade to rockliff/sloane/cotchin (just whoever is the in form premo from the first bye)
TBC is insurance for if nic nat is no good since i can swing read forward so im keen to hold on to him! i guess i could downgrade danger to a p.cripps then upgrade browny to j. kelly(if he's back in the mid again)/b. smith/hibberd and then look to upgrade to him after the bye, what are your thoughts on that?

Mozz · 17/03/2015 at 20:53
I would want another premo in the mids. Maybe downgrade elsewhere and then look to upgrade newton to another premo 🙂

Nhanlon · 17/03/2015 at 20:59
Cheers Mozz

Marco_Polo94 · 18/03/2015 at 18:33
Geary could come off. Whitecross doesn't seem to be in the hawks picture atm. either upgrade to a mid pricer or downgrade to rookie depending on structures.

G · 20/03/2015 at 05:38
What are your thoughts on Clancy Pearce?

Benj · 17/03/2015 at 23:45
I've gone Burgoyne, reports out of Hawks are he's had a killer preseason, better team than Kelly also… Thoughts on jaksch v McMillan as d6?

Marco_Polo94 · 18/03/2015 at 18:30
Avoid pearce, with crowley gone most likely will tag.

tommykmoore · 18/03/2015 at 14:00
Hey budgie!
my team is looking like this at the moment….would love your thoughts!?
back: H Shaw, Gibson, Newnes, Geary, B Jacobs, Goddard, (Dalgeish, Hamling)
Mid: GAJ, Beams, Priddis, Parker, Crouch, Newton, Cripps, Ellis Yolmen (Steele, Heeney, Lambert)
Ruc: Sanid, Nicnat (Read)
Fwd: Grey, Harvey, Bartel, Salem, Clarke, Hogan (Lamb, Krakour).
Cheers!

James · 18/03/2015 at 11:25
Not bad mate although not sure you’ve got the rookies right in the middle but I could be wrong we’ll see. Not so keen on Bartel this year either not sure if it’s because he killed me at a crucial stage last year. Minson could easily stink it up try and go for a Maric or Goldy

Spifflicator · 20/03/2015 at 06:29
Option 1

BomberSam · 18/03/2015 at 12:43
The Pendles/Shaw combo by a mile. Reliability.
You have spent big on somewhat unproven midfield rookies- Cripps, Newton and Cockatoo. I recommend downgrading 1-2 of them to search for better value. Be mindful that Cockatoo is a high vest candidate.
There is so much value in forward rookies this year, no reason to go to F4. I suggest downgrading Jack Martin to a rookie.
With all the cash restored through downgrades, you could strengthen your midfield to M5- the optimal structure in my opinion.

James · 18/03/2015 at 13:14
Thanks for the advice Bomber Sam and may I add you support a great club!!
Points taken although who would you ook at for M5 even with the downgrades I'd rather upgrade Nic Nat to a Maric not sure on Nic Nat durability. Newton and Cripps I feel would be more valuable come bye time than a mid priced M5 like Rich for example?

BomberSam · 18/03/2015 at 14:26
Your current ruck combination is perfect. Obviously it's a hard game to predict whether ruckmen can hold up for a season… most will miss 2-3 games. Goldstein and Nic Nat is very safe, lock them in.
By starting 5 premium mids, you eliminate the risk of falling behind the eight ball early in the season, and you will save precious trades later on. Newton and Cripps are likely to become good stepping stones, and will generate far more cash than a mid-pricer like Rich. I would be looking to upgrade Newton, as I see more upside in Cripps based on NAB challenge form. Cripps is averaging 22.5 points more than Newton, from 9% less time on ground.
Cripps:
SC Ave: 92
Disposals: 16
DE: 74%
TOG: 69%
Newton:
SC Ave: 69.5
Disposals: 16
DE: 65.5%
TOG: 78%

James · 18/03/2015 at 15:37
Great analysis. Tell me though if you have a 4 premium mid with for example GAJ, Pendles, Fyfe, Rockliff and then set and forget rucks like Goldy, Jacobs you should still make up for that M5 spot. The reason i'm finding it hard to fit in an M5 is because I cant afford a premium and don't want to fall into the trap of a midpricer who is a risk? For me others will be wasting trades later in the year trying to get those prem mids in where a team with those 4 already locked in can save a trade having to fork out for them. Thoughts?

General Soreness · 18/03/2015 at 16:53
Go Martin to Rookie, Newton or other Rookie up to Swallow or better.

BomberSam · 18/03/2015 at 18:22
I feel that Goldstein and Jacobs would be overspending in a position that offers value further down. Also, note that due to the scoring changes in the ruck, it is predicted that almost all ruckmen will depreciate in value. Stop fretting over Nic Nat, he is value personified this season.
You can make it work with a bit of chopping and changing. The obvious one is to downgrade Jack Martin to a rookie, freeing you up around $180k. You could consider Robbie Gray as an upgrade target rather than a starter and downgrade to Bartel, Goddard or Franklin. Have a play with your defence, I feel like there is better value than Simpson. Consider the likes of Hibberd, James Kelly, Lumumba and Shaun Higgins.
Where there is a will, there is a way.

Spifflicator · 20/03/2015 at 06:43
I like the rucks and defence James. I would however echo others views that you need to go deeper in the mids, to either M5 or even M6 with a BCrouch or Swallow type. I also worry about your cash generating ability due to having so few sub $150 rookies. Expensive rookies need to average 80+ to make you $200k, while a a cheaper rookie only has to go 65 for a similar return. I would look at downgrading Cockatoo and Jack Martin and using the cash at M5.

James · 18/03/2015 at 13:44
Not bad mate I did hear Hurn say on radio last night he won't be spending as much energy pushing up the ground this year and spent most time back as they have been a little depleted down back with Glass and McKenzie now gone.
Naitanui scares me a bit don't know how he is holding up. You conient in him?

BomberSam · 18/03/2015 at 14:56
Thank you for that information James. I hope he plays NAB3 so I can get a look at him. If I think it will affect his SC output, who would you recommend I put in his place?
For me, Naitanui looms as perhaps the value pick of the year. He is the undisputed number one ruckman at West Coast now that Cox has retired, and the coaches believe he is one game away from peak condition. I can see him averaging 105-115 points, set and forget.

James · 19/03/2015 at 10:34
If you decide to stay away from Hurn I do like Johnson. Freo go through him as much as possible and not to mention his intercept marking and rebounding

Marco_Polo94 · 18/03/2015 at 18:35
Pearce will most likely tag, Whitecross isn't even in the fray atm and seedsman is coming back from injury. backline needs to be shuffled.
Not a big fan of rich, but if thats the ilk you're after midfield looks fine.
Giles is a very risky pick and i doubt he will be number 1 ruck man at essendon.
Forward line is very strong.

Spifflicator · 20/03/2015 at 06:50
You're right your defence is almost non existent. Consider downgrading Goddard to Steele, and using that cash to upgrade Seedsman and Pearce to more reliable options such Gibsob or Sheppard etc.

Marco_Polo94 · 18/03/2015 at 18:36
Downgrade defender, upgrade midfield.

Marc · 18/03/2015 at 14:36
only real concern would be Leuey for mine…..will his body hold up?/ I'm expecting Martin to have another big yr and Leuey will be playing 2nd fiddle if he's fit enough. Another similar price option could be Giles?
FWD line is pretty much the same as mine and looks strong. I like the inclusion of Hannebury

Brownie91 · 18/03/2015 at 14:50
ok thanks marc yeah not keen on leuey either i only put him in my side cause his cheap but was always trade him out for someone and giles would be good option i have $384.400 k left and dont really want to trade or downgrade any of my players so do you recommend any other ruckman thats around this price ?

Brownie91 · 18/03/2015 at 14:57
Or What player should I trade out then trade another in so i could then afford Giles ?

Marc · 18/03/2015 at 15:15
I would maybe suggest going Burgoyne > M Johnson or something similar, that will save you about $38k
Johnson is a solid DEF and has scored well in the first 2 NAB games.

General Soreness · 18/03/2015 at 16:56
Ballsy ruck with Smith there Knyvett, will either be genius or madness, I do not have the plums. Nothing wrong with your other lines, personally do not like the Gift but I can see why people are picking him.

Knyvett · 18/03/2015 at 17:15
Yeah, I had TBC as R2, but wasn't comfortable with him, not sold on Smith either, hoping he steps up this weekend. I had some cash left over from ablett's downgrade and I wanted to upgrade the rucks, Ideally I would like Maric or someone similar to pair with Mummy, or even as R1 and someone like goldy as R2, but Mumford can be a huge gamechanger and with no Ablett I like that.
Any suggestions on a not too expensive solution to my R2 troubles?
As far as The Gift goes, I'm gonna assume that is Lumumba. I'm a Melbourne supporter and may be slightly biassed in my expectations of him, but I am going with a midprice defence strategy and I look at him as someone who wouldn't need to do too much in order to become a keeper. He just needs to be more accurate with his disposal.

General Soreness · 18/03/2015 at 16:51
Nice work Promise, you should spend some of that coin in the bank, it is a lot to have. Very strong rucks, for me Jacobs underdone = risk, downgrade will free up coin to go Newton up to a Premo or at a minimum Swallow, Crouch type.

Marco_Polo94 · 18/03/2015 at 18:21
i see what you're saying, however i think you'll lose out on a lot of points with the tail end of your mids having 3 rookies and a mid pricer. Very deep forward line, could easily downgrade to improve midfield and rucks. I like the defence. Luey has to go, not convinced from what I've seen so far.

Mozz · 18/03/2015 at 21:02
cotch

Mozz · 18/03/2015 at 21:09
Risky pick going with Merrett, but could pay off. Watch out for whitecross too, if he is not named in round 1, do not pick him
Very nice midfield, i like the pick of murphy, that's a real POD! Also cockatoo is someone that many people don't have. People are jumping off freeman, might want to change to another rookie
Nothing to complain about in rucks and fwds, they are good picks 🙂
please comment on my team too! thanks

Mozz · 18/03/2015 at 21:06
newnes
kolo
rampe

@mustiD69 · 18/03/2015 at 20:55
Alternative are Dangerfield for Sloane, and Goddard for Swan

Mozz · 18/03/2015 at 21:02
Lumumba is a great pick! Love him
Not sold on Kolo – what is your reasoning behind picking him?
Not sold on Sidebottom – what is your reasoning behind him?
Barlow & Lewis are great POD options! No one has them
Starting with Gray could prove costly, many people are keeping him for an upgrade target after round 11 bye, so that's a risky move but could pay off!!
I like your team 🙂 it could stand out from the rest! I wouldn't go with Goddard for swan or Dangerfield over sloane. Keep sloane and swan
please comment on my team too

Marco_Polo94 · 19/03/2015 at 13:50
I prefer Tyson over Jones. I like the Goodes pick if he is named. Apart from that pretty standard solid team. With that money I'd look at either upgrading your D5 or upgrading an on-field rookie in the mids to a Newton or something.

Mozz · 18/03/2015 at 21:20
Harry O

Marco_Polo94 · 19/03/2015 at 12:49
Geary

Marco_Polo94 · 19/03/2015 at 12:51
not certain on Jakcsh. feel like you may as well go a rookie over him. couple of nice PODs in the middle tho i'd upgrade NVB. Get rid of Berger. Heavy forward line, careful how much money you pour into there considering how many rookies up forward this season.

Mozz · 19/03/2015 at 07:50
you definitely need more money injected into the midfield, you don't have enough premos in the mid to score you enough points. I would donwgrade one of your fwds to K.Lambert, then upgrade Hallahan for a premo like Fyfe, Priddis etc.

Thebighix · 19/03/2015 at 07:54
Cheers for the feedback, was thinking the midfield was a little light on, but seemed to work with the bye rounds.
Will do some shuffling!!

BomberSam · 19/03/2015 at 11:38
You have enough money just sitting there to go an extra mid deeper by upgrading Rich. I would definitely recommend starting 5 premium mids.
I feel your defence is a little light on too, you must get it right this season. Whitecross probably won't play round 1, and either will Edwards, providing we don't get slapped with bans (I'm an Essendon supporter). You can always fix your rookies prior to round 1. Clancee Pearce will more than likely tag now that Crowley won't be playing. I would recommend upgrading him. To do this, you should downgrade one of your forwards, because there is enough value there this year to safely start with 3 non-rookies. Your rucks department is strong enough so that you shouldn't need coverage too early in the season, so you could downgrade Bellchambers to a rookie. I also think that Sheppard is a bit of a risk, but I haven't done my research here, you would probably know better than me.

Thebighix · 20/03/2015 at 07:23
Went with Mozz's feedback; downgraded Bellchambers for Caleb Daniel, moved Jack Steele into F6 and upgraded Hallahan for Rory Sloane. Had to try and tie it in with the bye rounds!!
Whitecross is my big issue, if he doesn't line up round 1 he'll be out, but quietly hoping he does. Took what you said with Edwards and downgraded him for Saad, leaves with with $130k in the bank. Assuming Whitecross doesn't play, will use some of the cash to move him on. Jaksch is a risk I'll admit, but hoping he's a bit of a POD. Sheppard I'm hoping comes up alright, especially with Waters retiring plus McKenzie being out, but will watch carefully over the next couple of weeks.
Cheers for your feedback, greatly appreciated!

BomberSam · 20/03/2015 at 09:10
Good stuff mate, sounds like you have quite a solid team now! Really like the Sloane selection, hard to believe he is only in just over 5% of teams. Shhh!
Yep, you have plenty of money to make a few little tweaks, or in the case of Whitecross not lining up round 1. Jaksch is looking very good in NAB, definitely watch him. West Coast will need a bit of help back there, Sheppard should come up well.

Marco_Polo94 · 19/03/2015 at 16:13
Those rookie midfielders have a high chance of getting the vest. Everything else looks pretty solid.

Marco_Polo94 · 19/03/2015 at 16:14
Need to upgrade one of those on field rookies with that money imo

Wombat_stew · 19/03/2015 at 16:31
recon upgrading ellis-yolmen to hallahan?

Marco_Polo94 · 19/03/2015 at 17:36
Yolemen will accrue more value than NVB i reckon. I'd upgrade NVB, hallahan would be a big POD, looked good in NAB 1

Marco_Polo94 · 19/03/2015 at 17:37
Wait who are your rucks?

Wombat_stew · 19/03/2015 at 20:08
Big will minson and nic nat

Blueprime · 20/03/2015 at 02:56
Whitecross unlikely to get a gig.

mick · 19/03/2015 at 18:31
4 gun backs 4 gunmids 2 rucks 3 fwds gives 13 keepers is this about right

Marco_Polo94 · 19/03/2015 at 19:48
I think the big question mark there is "4 gun backs". No one really knows who the big scoring backmen are going to be this season, which is why people are going for mid pricer stepping stones. 4 gun mids is a little light imo. 13 keepers is about right tho

Spifflicator · 20/03/2015 at 06:57
Don't mind this one Lucus, I personally wouldn't run with all three of Whitecross, Rich and NVB due to injury concerns, but it's a high risk/high reward option.

Spifflicator · 20/03/2015 at 06:54
The only two I don't really like are Luey and Boyd. Boyd is way too expensive and is going to spend a lot of time with ball nowhere near him, IMO downgrade him to a cheap rookie and spend it on Luey who I think will struggle to average 60.

cow roll · 22/03/2015 at 02:34
keep an eye on sheppard as he's inconsistent. Ibbo is a better choice despite the injury risk.

Jack · 20/03/2015 at 22:01
very nice team there mate!

UDA · 21/03/2015 at 11:24
no sure about T walker

Dion · 21/03/2015 at 13:18
Thanks guys! What about the rest of the team? Enough premiums? Too many rookies and POD?

Jack · 21/03/2015 at 14:04
Hey rob
im not too sure im curious on these players too?

Seaford Scouse · 24/03/2015 at 07:39
Unfortunately Rob there seems to be a lot of smoke around Ablett, reports have this week as the crucial week for him to prove himself, concern is he is unable/unwilling to test the shoulder out either in overhead marking or physical simulation. I would plan for a team without him, and as much as this pained me initially it feels quite liberating once you’ve done it (my ruck and forward lines have both thanked me!) The key is to also make sure you have a plan to get him in fairly quickly, this led me to add a couple of mid-pricers to the mid line which I didn’t have previously but there’s other options to do it also.
As for Jamie Mc, I admit I’m not a big fan SC wise and feel there’s better options available to us now but his js should be ok for the first 6-8 weeks I reckon as long as he doesn’t totally spud it up, injuries at North seem to have given him an opportunity so good luck with him I think a few will go him.

Worm · 21/03/2015 at 12:03
I think Oxley is some chance to start the season, but may lose his spot when Seedsman is fit. Has been on 'Pies list a while so assume they see a future there.

Jimmy Joe · 21/03/2015 at 21:55
Your defence runs quite deep and I'm not entirely convinced we'll be starved of cheap options come round one. Perhaps you could downgrade Lumumba (or another def) to someone like Hamling or even Dalgleish to free up some coin. Then you could consider upgrading one of Cripps or Newton to bolster your mids, or upgrade Smith in the Rucks to a more reliable option. Just my thoughts but obviously they mean diddly squat at this stage of the year!!

Jivesy · 22/03/2015 at 16:44
Cheers for the comments. My team is still changing on a daily basis. Almost there!

jmy7 · 21/03/2015 at 15:20
202'000 left over

I N Pieman · 21/03/2015 at 16:24
Very nice team! like the structure wouldn't change anything except maybe a few rookies depending on round 1 teams

Heath Shaw · 21/03/2015 at 22:28
Thanks.

portrule3333 · 21/03/2015 at 22:27
b.goodes

vinnymac · 24/03/2015 at 00:56
Not worth it to have Goddard in midfield, put him forward if your structures permit. For around the same coin you can have someone like Wines who is likely to exceed his value come season's end.

jmy7 · 22/03/2015 at 20:53
not bad, if it were me, with strong rookies in the forward mabye downgrade higgans to a rookie, then put him in the backline instead of lumumber or suckling, this will get you money to go elsewhere, and gets out a little bit of risk, there only my thoughs

Sarah · 23/03/2015 at 12:21
Backline is a bit risky with a couple of second year players in Langdon and KK. Seedsman is still injured as far as I'm aware.Midfield lacking some quality. You might want to think about downgrading Hallahan and using the cash to upgrade 2-3 of Wells, Neale, Mitchell or Swallow. That's far too many risks to take into the season.

Sarah · 23/03/2015 at 12:19
Good looking backline! I haven't seen Johnson in many team. Good POD!
Love the Boak and Zorko picks!!

Sarah · 23/03/2015 at 12:18
Love the Dangerfield pick! He played forward a lot against the power… something to take note of.

Sarah · 23/03/2015 at 12:17
Be careful with Lumumba. His SC history is not great! Love the midfield. JPK, Sidey and Lewis should all be great POD picks!

white_line_fever · 23/03/2015 at 21:40
thoughts on replacements then? higgins? also a burnman i know. adcock one i had in there previously.. Defense is so tough

Sarah · 24/03/2015 at 07:18
Depends how much money you have. To free some up I'd personally downgrade Saad in the forward line to Lambert (he was elevated to the senior list yesterday and likely to play early and through the midfield at the tigers). In the backline I like Kelly, or I hate to say this Jock, but I'd take Higgins over Lumumba. Alternatively you could try to pick a breakout player in that spot such as Kolodjashnij or Langdon. Good Luck!

Sarah · 23/03/2015 at 11:34
Watch out for Ryder and Bellchambers, there's a chance your rucks will be suspended for round 1 etc.

Spence · 23/03/2015 at 11:43
Yeah cheers bud
Just waiting on asada if they stay or go

Marco_Polo94 · 23/03/2015 at 12:00
Lumumba AND Higgins!? Burn men! Solid team other than that tho

Nick · 23/03/2015 at 13:37
i am a little worried about having both of them, thoughts on who l should swap instead?

Marco · 23/03/2015 at 13:46
Kolo? Ibbo possibly. Plenty to choose from

Nick · 23/03/2015 at 21:40
Thanks

Marco_Polo94 · 23/03/2015 at 12:00
Ooooo like the sheed PoD. Gone far stronger in defence than I have. It's a little light in midfield for my liking, might lose out on some points? Then again you'll probably make up for those points in your extra premiums elsewhere. Solid.

Sarah · 23/03/2015 at 12:16
Thanks Marco! I'm not scared about going lighter in the midfield. I only started with Gaz, Selwood, Watson and Beams plus rookies last year and finished just outside the top 1000. I'm happy with picking more rookies there cos not only do the rookies score more points than rookies on other lines, but they also make more money!! The midfield will be where I do my first upgrades.
Thanks for your comments.

Marco_Polo94 · 23/03/2015 at 12:19
Funnily enough I've just looked at my team and I've only got 5 mids as well Ahaha. My team structures have been changing constantly this weekend! II'm either going to M6 with Gray Bartel Martin. Or M5 with Gray to swan in forwards..

Sarah · 23/03/2015 at 12:23
Same. For me Martin is sometimes Wines in the midfield! Round 1 rookie selections will ultimately decide my starting structure. Looks like a lot of people have given up on starting with Gaz! That shoulder ain't looking good!

Marco_Polo94 · 23/03/2015 at 12:34
He's not starting for me even if named, see him posting some low scores while he gets back to it (low for Gaz which will be like 100 still aha). Wines looks the goods, I actually like him over griffen. More so because most will go with griffen.

Sarah · 23/03/2015 at 12:43
Everyone has their preferences don't they! I prefer Griffin over Wines because of his experience and GWS's easier starting draw compared to Port.
I see Gaz as a massive 'red vest' risk if he's named round 1. You don't know which Dees will show up, the average or the very bad, and so if the suns are able to wrap the game up early he'd be likely to be put in cotton wool given he hasn't played yet. Even if he isn't, I forsee him spending more time forward early in the season while he eases into it.

Marco_Polo94 · 23/03/2015 at 12:23
Pretty good mate. Risks are gift, Mitchell, Nat and Neale but all capable of coming off.

James · 23/03/2015 at 13:11
Quite light at the back for this year I think. Fyfe and Neale together could affect bye period unless you have a plan to counter that. I also think thats a lot spent in the ruck. Get Nic Nat in there and look at getting one more proven defender. Just my opinion your structure is a little different to mine. Good luck

Marco · 23/03/2015 at 13:38
Cheers mate. Yeh I’m backing in my rookies this season still. I prefer this structure than trying to guess who the best mid price defenders will be because there’s so many contenders. I’m definitely tossing up Mumford downgrade to upgrade goodes tho. Could then upgrade Neale to wines. I’m in two minds with mummy. Easy early fixtures and sky high ceiling means he could go BANG! However the other side of the coin is his scoring might be restricted due to the new ruck rules.

James · 23/03/2015 at 14:27
Yeah spot on can't see many benefits of over spending for rucks this year. Back in your rookies pal if it pays off you'll have more cash than most of us

Sarah · 23/03/2015 at 14:39
Upgrade Neale to Wines??? They're pretty much the same type of selection, both are breakout types… plus he has the last bye. If you're going to upgrade Neale at bye time you need to select a proven gun who's just had their bye.

Marco_Polo94 · 23/03/2015 at 17:59
Yeh I've gone mumford to Maric. Neale to Wines. Cheers guys!

James · 23/03/2015 at 13:08
Other thing is to replace Bartel with Swan and move Danger to Selwood?

Marco · 23/03/2015 at 13:49
I like the downgrade to swan to upgrade danger. Tho in saying that danger offers a nice PoD. Could downgrade to Bennell too as another option and upgrade to a Lewis. Not a fan of starting Rockliff. 1, high B/E, 2, round 11 bye, 3, beams seems to be outperforming him. Backs are solid for a D5 structure. Solid all round.

James · 23/03/2015 at 14:33
Rockliff is a gun and I honestly believe Beams won't effect him when the real stuff begins just as Pendles still killed it with Beams at the Pies. Rockliff will get his own ball he's never relied on others getting it for him thats why I believe once season proper starts we'll see the same Rockliff as last year

derek · 24/03/2015 at 13:56
Fasalo and Rohan, both in the same team….I hope you will be able to sleep. I like both as big POD, and at times I have thought about both, but two in one team, serious balls!…….and Higgins…..!

derek · 24/03/2015 at 13:55
I love the Riewoldt selection. Not in my team but what a player!!!

derek · 24/03/2015 at 13:39
Clurey might be a dead weight like last year (I had him on my bench the whole year waiting for him to play a second game).
I see you have Gray listed in MIDS, but I assume you will swing him to fwd depending on how the rookies perform.
Team is fairly similar to mine, except I have Ablett instead of Slone.
the rucks are locked!

stevemorris67 · 24/03/2015 at 19:49
Thanks Derek – Clurey's on my 'to be decided list' and I'll be looking to send Gray forward.

Roy · 25/03/2015 at 18:05
Swapped Zorko for Gray. trade Zorko to any premo mid id say 😉

throttlefinger · 24/03/2015 at 07:42
Hey Sum. Welcome!
Think you have a lot of strong choices. Too many midpricers for my liking. Hunt, Goodes, Daisy, Jono, Jetta and Hale are a little too much. That's a little too much madness.
Also, you should try to get more rooks in your back, mid and forward lines. They will generate the cash. Whitecross won't make Hawks 22. N Brown will make the Pies 22. Cockatoo is pricey. Would try to get Cripps in there. Cam Ellis-Yomen too. And Lambert has been elevated so that's a cheap DPP you can have in your forward line.
Biggest area of concern are your rucks. My opinion is the combo of Giles and Gawn will hurt your team. Just not proven or consistent. At least get Goldie, Maric or NicNat in one of those lines. Of two of them if possible. Think you should have the money if you replace 3-4 of your midpricers with rookies.
Hope this helps.

sumyunguys · 24/03/2015 at 12:55
Thanks for the input. Couldnt agree more…Rucks were a concern… and my fwd line is heavy in mids. Cockatoo may be pricey but will he be in ports starting 22?.

Omen · 24/03/2015 at 10:48
You need 3 or 4 of them IMO.
If I had to rank them in order of preference, I'd go…
Pendles, Selwood, Parker, JPK, Priddis, Barlow
Johnson – not in MID
N Jones – pass

derek · 24/03/2015 at 13:48
Toss the coin between Selwood and Pendlebury, maybe Pendlebury slightly ahead as Selwood can get affect by the tag a lot more than pendlebury does.

Rock-MAN · 24/03/2015 at 20:49
I've got Sidey, GAZ, Lewis and Rocky.. Then 3 rooks.
I can afford anybody. in MIDS

derek · 24/03/2015 at 13:52
Birchell I believe will play round 1, but he is a bit under-done, plus the Hawks play the Cats first up and they will lock him down for sure. he will be an upgrade option.
Whitecross won't play round 1 and will be a good downgrade option later.
I would put Crisp ahead of NVB at the moment.
Nice forward line, but weak R2.

derek · 24/03/2015 at 13:45
Vlaustin was in my original team, but I have watched him close over the NAB and I can't see him doing any better than 70-75 which means he is fully priced. Whitecross won't play round 1, but he should get a game fairly soon, I expect we will see him after round 5. You might want to have him as a downgrade option later.
You don't have any recognised premiums in Defence, but you have certainly made up for it in the Mids & rucks. You have gone for gold-plated Rolls-Royce Midfield.
I had T Mitchell on my radar early, but he hasn't impressed at all, I would consider him a risk.
overall a good team, lots of points will come from midfield and rucks, just hope that your defence can do the job early on before you can get them upgraded.

Avzmo · 25/03/2015 at 10:16
It looks like you made this team a month ago, and are only now asking the question.
I'd put a line through the following players.
Whitecross, Ablett (you cant have that much cash sitting on the bench if hes not playing), Vandenberg (not elevated to senior list), Krakouer (same reason)
Also not a fan of rocky, his price will drop, you get more bang for your buck with Beams, Cockatoo I think there are better options around his price, but if you want a rookie POD, go for it, Mitchell has underperformed early, I might target him as an upgrade target later should he perform.

derek · 24/03/2015 at 14:39
the Bont instead of Swan…massive call

Avzmo · 25/03/2015 at 10:11
I think the consensus for most people is to have two premium ruckmen to start the year, the third ruckman simply won't be playing. If one of the two ruckmen gets injured then you do a like for like trade, the minimal points and cash that the likes of a Naismith might make really won't help you in the long run.
The cash generation that you have mentioned really only matters if your going to plan on trading him down later on, and is the lets just spitball and say $100-150k cash your gonna generate (and I think thats being overly positive), really going to be worth burning a trade on?

Ricco · 27/03/2015 at 23:46
I would use the 190 to up atleast one of the premiums (Swallow, Neale) to another super prem to go alongside Fyfe, maybe Pendles or Selwood. Im not too keen on Burgoyne, i think there are better options at his price. Ablett will drop in price early too i think, it may take a few games to reach his form of last year. You should be able to trade him for another super prem even with little money in your bank by that stage.

Avzmo · 25/03/2015 at 10:06
TO be honest I think the backs at around the 200k price range aren't going to offer any more than the ones at the 100-130k price range. I think though that you have a problem that when you only have 4 premo mids and one isnt going to be playing, you are going to have problems early, get rid of one, cos 3 premo mids playing in the early rounds just won't cut it.

Teddy_Ruxpin · 25/03/2015 at 11:12
Thanks for the feedback Avzmo – Time to do some research on these backs a little more and get some money for an upgrade.

Nathan · 24/03/2015 at 19:08
Parker also in mid

Josh · 25/03/2015 at 12:56
Solid team…
Only feedback would be to look at J. Macmillan instead of Jacobs as he definitely has better job security being added to the leadership group, also I think has better scoring potential

Avzmo · 25/03/2015 at 09:59
Vandenberg and Krakouer haven't been elevated the the senior list so scrap them for a start.
Unfortunately you can't have everything, you've got a midfield where Cripps is your M8, your really not going to be able to afford those other options. In my mind get rid of a midfielder, maybe Wallis, to upgrade your two others. Gives you more opportunities to get midfield rookies into your side.

JoeWoolcock · 25/03/2015 at 17:12
Thanks mate, not sure why but like Jock I've had a gut feel that Wallis could be something special. But it is a risk and he is unproven so downgrading is probably smart. I'm dropping him to Heeney to get that spare cash

Josh · 25/03/2015 at 12:51
I really like this team…
as far as freeing up cash to get Gray in your team…. I would downgrade Newton to Anderson, should score similarly and frees up money…
might also look to downgrade kelly to a cheaper option then use that money for Gray and swapping Wallis to Wells or Rich

Josh · 25/03/2015 at 12:41
I would look at downgrading WhiteX to N.Brown as he is locked for round 1 and WhiteX still may not be named…
Also look to downgrade Bont to Swan or someone potentially a little cheaper that will likely be more consistent
and instead of Ibbo & B. Goodes you can look at players like C. Pearce, J. Macmillan or T. Hunt all for similar prices that should score roughly the same

Tristan · 25/03/2015 at 13:03
Downgrade bont to swan? Swan is priced higher than Bont???

Mozz · 25/03/2015 at 15:09
Definitely put higgins to the backline and edwards out!! There are many more fwd rookies that will score well

AdamK · 25/03/2015 at 15:33
Moved Higgins Back
Took Edwards Out
Added Hogan Forward
Changed Swallow to Mitchell
Thoughts?

Mozz · 25/03/2015 at 15:57
Keep swallow, i would rather upgrade rich to someone else

Billy · 25/03/2015 at 18:41
Could easily upgrade Jones or Lewis to say Fyfe, Beams or even GAJ. Or beef up def by moving goodes up to lumumba or higgins

dan · 26/03/2015 at 00:39
dude rethink simpson whitecross, ablett boekhurst freeman luenberger

JoeWoolcock · 29/03/2015 at 13:03
Gutsy pick in Roughead there Haydos, a risk but I like it. I'd take out Boekhorst as it looks like he's been pipped for a starting berth and put CEY on the field. Brayshaw and Whitecross won't play round 1 either.

Redgumwon · 26/03/2015 at 14:08
My defence is pretty similar to yours. I think move on Brown out of your defence. He won't score that well to make you much money. Punt on a rookie like Edwards (Ess) Delgleish (Ess) Goddard (St Kil) McIntosh (Rich) or maybe Dick (Carl)
Move Bennel and Newton out and upgrade to a Pendle's (Coll) or premium and another cheaper rookie maybe?

JoeWoolcock · 29/03/2015 at 13:07
Like the structure Sam, and good to see that there's someone going without Gray, Bartel or Martin! Stacked backline looks good, watch for vests on Heeney and Anderson if you're starting them. Bellchambers unproven this preseason so I won't touch him but with Naitanui in you might need backup.

Redgumwon · 26/03/2015 at 14:13
Selwood

Redgumwon · 26/03/2015 at 14:14
I like it and it looks pretty close to a side Sarah put up a few days ok

Charlesy · 26/03/2015 at 14:25
Thanks mate, I’ll go back and check Sarah’s team out. I know Sarah is a respected voice on here. Very nervous about the backline though!

Dave · 26/03/2015 at 21:37
$81,300 left. Thoughts ?

James · 27/03/2015 at 13:30
Rate the midfield highly in fact have gone for the same structure in the mids. My advice would be with some late emerging value down back downgrade Hibberd (ASADA) and upgrade Bellchambers (ASADA) lol. Other than that good team I reckon

Cliffy · 27/03/2015 at 16:03
Cheers James,
Had a look over your squad and it looks good too, nice spread across the board.

Cliffy · 27/03/2015 at 16:03
Very similar midfield structures too lol, as you said.

James · 29/03/2015 at 21:22
Thanks Cliffy all the best to you this year

Ben · 27/03/2015 at 14:43
Some risky picks there … I think B Goodes still needs to be elevated from the rookie list so watch out there. C Pearce will likely get tag duties with Crowley out = risk. L Brown (crows?) probably will not score highly and there are probably better options available. Other selections are ok, although overall I think your Defense is a bit skinny. Keep an eye on those rookies and make sure they are named rd 1.
You should try use Dual position players like Gray and D Martin up forward, probably better options than KPPs like Westhoff.
Rucks are better – Goldy is a solid pick, Bellchambers is a bit riskier but there are plenty of worse options.
Hope this helps a bit – I'm no SC veteran!

Ben · 27/03/2015 at 14:56
B Goodes just got elevated, so good pick 🙂

Frank · 27/03/2015 at 16:52
Neale, Swan, Maric, (Touk?) Miller and Griffen and bennel, Macrae may get tagged while Bennel won't, with Prestia still in and Gaz on the verge of returning

Frank · 27/03/2015 at 16:50
Wines is gonna have a breakout season

JoeWoolcock · 27/03/2015 at 20:58
Mate I'm tempted by Treloar too. He'd certainly be the POD of the pair and if he can still find the pill with Griffen there he's actually the better buy in my opinion.

James · 29/03/2015 at 21:25
Interesting you say that I believe with Griffen getting the tag most of the time Treloar will still get plenty of the ball although so will Ward, Shiel, Greene and even Coniglio WOW what a midfield they have

Jbdbeh ge · 28/03/2015 at 18:47
Judd best pick , enable second best , swallow third best

Tyler · 27/03/2015 at 18:06
Upgrade Priddis to pendles or fyfe. He handballs way more than he kicks, and will probably go down in price quite a bit. Also, I would say try and upgrade kolojashnij to a better player

Charlesy · 27/03/2015 at 22:12
Mate with that available cash I would look at your rucks. Nic Nat is always a worry and Bellchambers = esada. But otherwise I really like it

marcus · 02/04/2015 at 00:54
j.lloyd swap with bellchambers

dognino · 28/03/2015 at 17:23
Imo way too many smokies for 1 team. I limited myself to 1 in each line in labumba, Griffen and swan , and even that's too many so I got rid of labumba . Your banking on too many PODs to perform consistently

Stickman · 29/03/2015 at 14:00
You backline, ruck and forward line are impeccable and you definitely have enough keepers, but your midfield is very weak. Midfield premiums are the most consistent from year to year and you need a few more premiums there. Maybe downgrade a defender and a forward to let you to upgrade two of Wells, Rich, Wallis, NVB and Cripps.

Worm · 30/03/2015 at 09:11
If you are going to start with Bellchambers as back-up ruck, I would swing him forward and put Cox, Read etc on the bench. Too expensive to have not scoring at the start of the season.

Charlesy · 30/03/2015 at 12:12
I agree with Worm mate and I also think you are too light on for premium mids. But your defence is set so this team may work. Good luck

marcus · 02/04/2015 at 00:45
really strong side steve, maybe wines to griffen though

marcus · 02/04/2015 at 00:41
i think griffin, wines, treloar in that order