Supercoach 2015

 NAB CHALLENGE HAS KICKED INTO GEAR

And how good is it to have THE FOOTY back! The NAB is already telling us a bit about this year’s crop of Supercoach options – but we have had a stack of undermanned teams run onto the park.

We’re also joined this week by Al Paton from Superfooty – who drops a Supercoach exclusive for us right here in the podcast.

Huge podcast this week – an absolute truckload to get through!

Show notes:

  • We’ll be giving away the revolutionary 2015 Jock Reynolds Supercoach Magazines over on the facebook. Like the facebook page, like the post, share with your mates and put your hat in the ring! Click here to enter

Every NAB Challenge game is being covered for Supercoach significance: Click here for our analysis of each game


188 Comments

PreviouslyOnLost · 01/03/2015 at 21:55

Interested to hear the "Higgins" debate! Watch him suck everyone in and break hearts around the globe.

Also, what's the go with the DIV 3 league codes? have they been sent out yet?

Cheers Jock.

    jockreynolds · 01/03/2015 at 21:58

    GDay there previoulsy! I've been slow as a wet week on some of the Divvy 3 invites.. this week! Sorry about the delay old mate and hope you're having a top preseason

      PreviouslyOnLost · 01/03/2015 at 22:02

      Other than big E-Mac going down (eagles fan), it's been a great pre-season. If injuries keep going the way they do, could be some voids that need filling

BCHawks · 01/03/2015 at 21:57

Can't wait to listen!

crowls · 01/03/2015 at 23:39

How do I get into a league guys.

    FC HAWKSTOWE · 02/03/2015 at 14:04

    You need more league's Jock. Some sites have up to 11. Create 2 more league's from the donor's group from last year. You know you want to

Jack · 01/03/2015 at 23:39

G'Day Jock!

I signed up to the Club Jock about three weeks ago and so far I don't think I've received an invite to the Club Jock qualifiers group.

Just wondering when I'll receive the invite 🙂

Cheers!

    jockreynolds · 02/03/2015 at 12:46

    Gday there Jack! Thanks for joining!! – will be a batch going out this week mate

Hazey · 01/03/2015 at 23:48

Evening Jock et al,

I’m not sure if you have spotted my email or posts, but my mother dearest hasn’t received my Magazine yet down in Tassie. She is then going to get my boss to bring IP to Timor-Leste for me….hopefully b4 round 1.

Can you please check it isn’t under a pile of tissue’s somewhere in the flapping tarp?

Hazey

    @LekBlog · 01/03/2015 at 23:51

    What's your name and email etc mate?

      Hazey1977 · 02/03/2015 at 14:16

      GDay Lekdog,

      Is there a 'help desk' email I can reply to? Not that i don't trust anyone in the community here, but I'd prefer not to advertised my personal email etc.

      Cheers

      Hazey · 02/03/2015 at 23:39

      OK..OK…holding out on me ya big tease! Email is [email protected]

throttlefinger · 02/03/2015 at 01:39

Amen to having footy back. So far got some good glimpses. Langdon's role is most intriguing. As Dex pointed out, he could be the back line QB much like Heater was. If that is the case, 85 should be cake (especially for a rook who went ton 3 times last season. Lukey McD and Thumper are in the mix. As is Hampton. Think we'll have a better idea on the third Nab game which rooks look like they may be in the mix R1. Have two structures ready for back line feast or famine.

Hilarious Dimma interview Crouching. New segment? "Tidbits & Flying Kicks w/ Crouching One?"

    Jayden · 02/03/2015 at 01:52

    Not considering docherty throttle finger?
    I’m considering going 5 deep with 3 midpricers
    Who do you think will step up in libbas absence ?
    I’m looking at bontempelli

      throttlefinger · 02/03/2015 at 02:14

      Hey Jayden.

      Docherty is on the watchlist but I don't give him a good shot at nailing a spot. Blues look like an unsteady side at the moment. But that's based on one preseason game without their main players, so we'll see.

      Right now leaning with going 6 deep in mids. Only midpricer I'm considering is Judd. Little longer in the tooth but is wise and still got the talent to shake a tag and go ton. Could be nice path to upgrade to JPK or Sloane once price drops.

      Macrae looks like the one who will step up SC wise. Still that's a risky pick. Bont looks nice yet sooooo much change with players leaving, new coach and now Libba out. I'm going to extend General Soreness's 50 foot pole to the lot of them for now.

        Sarah · 02/03/2015 at 11:12

        It's likely Macrae will cop the tag now though…

          The_Kraken · 03/03/2015 at 12:07

          I'm now shying away from WBD mids, dont think we have much clarity at all on how this year will shake out. Who will take over Libba's role – Jong v Wallis v others? Can Macrae improve again from last year without Griffen and Libba or will he get the #1 tag every week ? How much more midfield time will Bont, Stringer, Hrovat (now injured again) get? Does MBoyd go back into the engine room? Where do Biggs, Hunter and Johannisen fit in? When is Clay Smith (previously big wraps) back? Can see a couple of blokes stepping up but WHO? Fraught with danger

            General Soreness · 03/03/2015 at 12:34

            Nailed it Kraken!

          Super_supercoach · 03/03/2015 at 12:40

          What's up with Biggs? Why no play? If fit should be a lock for M8 now.

            General Soreness · 03/03/2015 at 12:45

            I heard he had a niggle which kept him out.

      Phil · 02/03/2015 at 18:24

      Mitch Wallis is the man, I suspect he may average more than fellow mid pricers Wells & Rich. Agreed Jack Macrae will get the tag so we will see what the kid is made of…..If he averages 100+ hes the next elite midfielder 2016 and beyond

lostlarrikin · 02/03/2015 at 08:24

Brilliant stuff Lads!
Love the input from Al on team structures.
Looking fwd to the super 9 comp. Would be interesting to analyse numbers from last yr to see how difficult it would have been to pick the top 9 each week.
Would love to go Bont up fwd now but already fielding too many mid pricers there already.
Although awkwardly priced, Biggs could firm for a mid selection.

So many doggies fringe players with potential to step into the ring, makes selecting the right one a tall order.

    Ash · 03/03/2015 at 15:52

    Considering the prize money is 25k a week, Im tipping its reasonably hard.

Pentair legends · 02/03/2015 at 08:28

Hey Jock
Can you please check and see if my magazine has been sent , or did I miss something in completing the payment.
Just let me know then , I can buy one if I missed doing it correctly on the web.
My email address is [email protected]

ThemightyJrods · 02/03/2015 at 09:40

Real keen to hear the community's thoughts on who would make a better D4 Langdon or Mayes?

    UDA · 02/03/2015 at 10:52

    Langdon

      I N Pieman · 02/03/2015 at 11:27

      Agreed about Langdon. Seems to have a defined role which could score reasonably well. Really not sure yet what Mayes role will be. Some talk of him going Fwd which could limit his scoring potential.

      NateCrows · 03/03/2015 at 16:16

      Langdon

    Dools · 03/03/2015 at 18:19

    G'day Mate
    If you are picking Mayes over Langers based purely on DPP well I think its an error!! Mayes should be good but; Last year Langers was very worthy and with this apparent new role for the Pies as the General Down the Back you would have to go Langers at this stage.

Mike · 02/03/2015 at 10:38

LOL, way to sell the sponsorship Jock.

General Soreness · 02/03/2015 at 10:43

There is not better way to start a Monday morning that listening to the podcast on the way to work.

Brilliant having footy back, whilst I feel for the guys that are now out for the season, injuries are part of footy, something that Stevo from Channel 7 and Grant Thomas appear to be ignoring in their calls for no preseason hitouts just start round 1. They conveniently forget that a young man named Petracca did an ACL in training, Fyfe did his shoulder again in November. I feel for these blokes but also look forward to them perhaps starting in my side in 2016.

Onto the real stuff, I feel that we should alert the Alfred Burns Unit and there should be a Higgo's Helpline setup before the season proper to provide psychological support of comfort for those that get burnt by Higgins and Thomas and Karnezis and…………..(insert name of preseason specialists here).

    I N Pieman · 02/03/2015 at 11:34

    Agree with Higgins & Thomas burnmen statement General. Next week Braughton could get a mention. If that's he case an intervention is required. Karnezis is an interesting one. He's cheap as chips so he's worth looking at. Don't think I'll start him. Maybe a corrective. He did kick about 40 goals in the VFL last season.

      Sarah · 02/03/2015 at 12:17

      Agree INP. With Karnezis being so cheap he's out of burnman territory and into experienced rookie territory.

        I N Pieman · 02/03/2015 at 13:35

        It's a tough call Sarah. But given his price it's not a bad risk. Think I'd prefer Lambert or Krak if available.

    Phil · 02/03/2015 at 18:32

    I reckon Karnezis is the biggest lock going around. He's named Round 1, he's starts on the ground for me. I also think Mitch Clark is probably the second biggest lock going around. I'm not asking these guys to play 22 games…..

      General Soreness · 03/03/2015 at 10:03

      Karnezis and Clark may make claims on price alone and therefore any burning may just be scalds…..good to hear you are planning for them as trades.

      I think though people considering Daisy and Higgins are looking to them as keepers, they may be right, history says they will be burnt.

        vcloophole · 03/03/2015 at 17:01

        In Higgins we (sorta) trust! 😛

    Gold Rush · 02/03/2015 at 23:09

    At that price, I'll take the punt on Karnezis – if he turns into a charcoaled kebab – I lose very little.
    bar one trade.

    t_mitch · 03/03/2015 at 06:07

    add tom mitchell to that list, geary too

      vcloophole · 03/03/2015 at 17:03

      So you're adding yourself to the burnman list? haha 🙂

brandonr · 02/03/2015 at 12:36

Interesting to see your thoughts on James Kelly. Seems that a lot of people are looking past him. Has a career average of 90 and hasnt averaged lower than 88 in 7 years!

    vcloophole · 02/03/2015 at 14:12

    Geelong have mentioned that they are looking at beefing up their midfield with experienced campaigners like Bartel and Kelly. I watched the game yesterday, and it did indeed pan out that way. Kelly is my D1 at the moment, and very confident of a 95-100 average from him.

      Hazey1977 · 02/03/2015 at 18:41

      SSShhhhhhhh!..hehe

Redgumwon · 02/03/2015 at 14:43

We've got a Supercoach Draft private league and currently we have 4 places left open. Is anyone interested in playing? If your interested the league code is 463497

I can also be emailed at [email protected] if anyone is having trouble getting into the league

BundyBear · 02/03/2015 at 14:58

I need some expert advice please. Last year I stuffed up the captains loop a couple of times and it cost me big time. Could someone please explain how its done in very easy to understand language. Leaving school at 13 might not of been a good idea after all.

    Mozz · 02/03/2015 at 15:32

    Step 1: Find a rookie that will NEVER play a game and that is very cheap. Put them in your team. It is helpful to pick someone from a team that plays later games in the weekend

    Step 2: Place the VC on someone who you think could score really highly in the first few games of the weekend. (If we are looking at round one, you may wish to place the VC on G.Ablett because he is playing against Melbourne).

    Look at the VC score after they have played and ask yourself this question:
    HAS MY VC SCORED ENOUGH TO BE A CAPTAIN'S SCORE

    YES HE HAS! – Then what you need to do is swap the player who NEVER plays onto your field and put the C on him. What happens now is that when this player doesn't play, he will score a 0, and hence the captaincy is revoked, meaning that the VC now gets double points.
    Hint: I have C.Blakely (Fremantle) in my team because Freo always plays after Gold Coast in the first 9 rounds of the season

    NO HE HASN'T! – Then you still have the option of putting the C on another player you think will score highly and that's the end of that. No loop hole is used in this option.

    Hope this helps 🙂 If you have any more questions i'll answer them to help you through the struggles that is understanding supercoach.

      derek · 02/03/2015 at 16:17

      Make sure that you have the E button clicked on the player on the bench who you want to use their score instead of the Zero from the non-player if you have the non-player on the field. (I did that once last year). The C on the non-player doesn't automatically go to the Emergency.

      BundyBear · 06/03/2015 at 17:46

      Thankyou very much for the information.

derek · 02/03/2015 at 16:22

Is Travis Cloke worth considering? $390k

    MarcoPolo · 02/03/2015 at 17:06

    Could be a bargain. Personally I don't have the balls to select him. Being a Collingwood fan I would love nothing more for clokey to come out firing this season, however he spuds it up too often for me to select him. I'm trying to steer clear of key position forwards this year and pick forwards based on their midfield time. I just feel there is more consistency and value to be had in those types than your clokes and tex's.

      derek · 02/03/2015 at 17:35

      I ended last year with a vow to not start (or even have during the year) key postion forwards in my team. I think I Franklin, Roughie, Cloke, Pav, Petrie were all there at one stage!

      Although I have slipped Hogan into my starting team already, I think he is too good miss.

      My Forwards are FWDS: Gray, Bartel, Goddard, Swan, Salem, Hogan.

      Collingwood start with Brisbane, Crows & Saints. I can see big Travis starting the year with a bang.

    Super_Freak · 02/03/2015 at 18:13

    No KPP's is a well spoken about Supercoach rule that almost always need to be adhered to, Riewolt a notable exception of recent years. Cloke was the last KP player I gambled on, trading him in after he went supernova on Richmond in 2013, only to turn into a SC black hole for the remainder of the season. Lesson learnt!

Super_Supercoach · 02/03/2015 at 16:33

Interesting than none of the top six SC scores so far in NAB has been by a Midfielder and only 3 of the top 10 scores was by a midfielder.
Top 10 by Position
Forward -164
Defender – 152
Forward – 148
Defender/Forward – 136
Forward – 131
Forward – 131
Midfield – 130
Midfield – 127
Ruck – 127
Midfield – 126
Midfield – 124

    Nate · 03/03/2015 at 14:45

    who got 164?

    General Soreness · 03/03/2015 at 15:13

    More a case of being NAB 1, no accountability as each team is just trying to get their own plans working with scant regard for the opposition. But they are very interesting numbers and makes me more certain of my strategy.

Super_Supercoach · 02/03/2015 at 16:43

DPP scores from NAB so far
D/MidJack Newnes 100
D/MidRohan Bewick 88
D/MidElliot Yeo74
D/MidAdam Saad67
D/MidJarrod Harbrow63
D/MidNick Vlastuin46
D/MidSam Mayes 44
D/MidBrad McKenzie16
For/defShaun Higgins136
For/defSimon White103
For/defAlex Fasolo (Coll)93
For/defJeremy McGovern65
For/defJames Frawley (Haw)42
For/defDaniel McStay 41
For/defDaniel Merrett 40
For/defCiaran Byrne36
For/defTyson Goldsack (Coll)33
For/defMatthew Watson26
For/defMalcolm Karpany6
For/defKaiden Brand (Haw)0
Mid/ForAlex Sexton111
Mid/ForJarryd Lyons96
Mid/ForMarcus Bontempelli91
Mid/ForSteven Motlop90
Mid/ForBen Kennedy (Coll)89
Mid/ForJack Ziebell89
Mid/ForHarley Bennell88
Mid/ForDayne Zorko 86
Mid/ForKoby Stevens86
Mid/ForKane Lambert85
Mid/ForTaylor Adams (Coll)83
Mid/ForDanny Stanley82
Mid/ForMarco Paparone 79
Mid/ForSam Kerridge79
Mid/ForClaye Beams 74
Mid/ForMatthew Wright74
Mid/ForMitch Grigg72
Mid/ForJosh Thomas (Coll)68
Mid/ForBrent Harvey66
Mid/ForRicky Petterd64
Mid/ForBrodie Martin56
Mid/ForJonathan Simpkin (Haw)51
Mid/ForDennis Armfield50
Mid/ForJack Crisp (Coll)45
Mid/ForMitch Robinson44
Mid/ForPatrick McGinnity26
Mid/ForTom Curren 11
Ruc/FwdCallum Sinclair102
Ruc/FwdScott Lycett89
Ruc/FwdSam Grimley (Haw)56
Ruc/FwdReilly O’Brien54

MarcoPolo · 02/03/2015 at 17:09

Dangerfield or crouch?

    MarcoPolo · 02/03/2015 at 17:13

    Mids are currently: Gaz, Pendles, Fyfe, Danger, Wines, Swallow, Rich, Anderson (heeney, vandenburg, lambert)

    Redgumwon · 02/03/2015 at 18:29

    Dangerfield

      NateCrows · 03/03/2015 at 16:31

      i would think more of swapping swallow for crouch.

      Danger will have a good year i reckon and will eclipse swallow and crouch's year

    Dools · 03/03/2015 at 18:14

    Danger by a long way Mate

derek · 02/03/2015 at 17:27

I'm losing sleep over my M6.

Current Mids are: Ablett, Pendles, JPK, priddis, Wines, ???, (Rookies).

I will have around $540k to spend.

I'm thinking it is between, Griffin$530k, Shiel$509k, Swallow$500, BCrouch$508k

    Super_Freak · 02/03/2015 at 18:16

    Put them all in a hat and pick one, they are all potential keepers. I'd probably pick Crouch though.

    Redgumwon · 02/03/2015 at 18:31

    What about Mitchell (HAW) after his NAB Cup game against Collingwood. Looks like he might be a priced right and scores well enough to upgrade later on or keep him

      derek · 02/03/2015 at 20:06

      I am a Hawks fan and get caught every year putting to many Hawks in my team. He does look good value, but I think his best SC days are over. I don't think Sammy has ever racked up 40 pos in an AFL game. amazing!

      Last couple of years he had a habit of resting the final term once the game was over. Instead of scoring 130SC he would sit on a 100 and leave the junk time to Roughie and Co.

    Nate · 03/03/2015 at 14:15

    Im the same
    I went Gaz, Fyfe, Priddis, Danger, Wines,

    I want to pick B.Crouch but as i have
    VB, J.Anderson, Heeney, Leverde, Dumont. as the rest

    it leaves me with 3/3/3 on the byes
    Would prefer the rnd 13 bye.
    but i guess it doesn't matter too much.

    I reckon it's out of Swallow, Griffen and Crouch

Dan · 02/03/2015 at 17:59

Just hoping to get some expert advice on this build, went for a low priced def (although it could still be lower) and the rest is more or less guns n rookies. Any feedback is appreciated…
D: Shaw, Newnes, Langdon, Goodes, Whitecross, Goddard (Viojo-Rainbow, McKenzie)
M: Ablett, Pendlebury, Kennedy, Judd, van Berlo, Newton, Brayshaw, Boekhorst (Anderson, Heeney, Freeman)
R: Jacobs, Naitanui (Smith)
F: Gray, Goddard, Swan, Thomas, McCartin, Salem (Hogan, Krakoer)

    King Menace · 02/03/2015 at 18:04

    Thomas, is a big no, same with Goodes and Judd.

      vcloophole · 03/03/2015 at 17:16

      Agree Goodes is a NO, but Judd and Thomas are debatable

    derek · 02/03/2015 at 20:13

    I would get rid of Goodes. better options like C Pearce & Jaksch. I would even consider Rohan before Goodes.

    I would think about T Mitchell ahead of Daisy.

    How much cash you have left, must be a bit?

    Gray is the selection of a Shark!!!

    vcloophole · 03/03/2015 at 17:18

    Dan you need to get Whitecross out of your side. Very doubtful he will feature early

King Menace · 02/03/2015 at 18:01

Thoughts?

DEF: Smith, Shaw, Newnes, Henderson, Goddard, Viojo-Rainbow, McKenzie, Newman
MID: Ablett, Pendlebury, Fyfe, Selwood, Sloane, Rich, Boekhorst, Freeman, Vandenberg, Steele, Lambert
RUC: Goldstein, Nic Nat, Read
FWD: Goddard, Martin, Swan, Salem, Hogan, Laverde, Krakouer, Daniel

I have $115,900 left. Not sure wether to downgrade Goldstein to someone cheaper like Leuenberger or Big Boy and get Wines instead of Rich. I'm not sure how many guns we should have in our midfield.

Feedback is much appreciated.

    Dan · 02/03/2015 at 18:26

    $115k isn't exceptionally too much to go into Rd 1 with. With one less ruck, i wouldnt downgrade Goldstein but thats just me. Rich and Boekhorst will both play

    Dick · 02/03/2015 at 18:43

    have u thought about trading Smith to someone like James Kelly? I believe Geelong plan to run him through the midfield more this year…

    derek · 02/03/2015 at 20:16

    a lot of team structures will depend if Whitecross gets a start round 1. If he does, you can use your cash to up grade a Def rookie to Whitecross.

Jack · 02/03/2015 at 19:58

G'day community,

Looking for some feedback, critisicm in particular, on my current team.

DEF: H Shaw, C Enright, J Newnes, G Ibbotson, B Whitecross, H Goddard (A Saad, B Maynard)
MID: G Ablett, S Pendlebury, J Selwood, M Priddis, A Swallow, D Rich, S Biggs, I Heeney (B Boekhorst, A Vandenberg, K Lambert)
RUC: N Naitanui, T Bellchambers (T Read)
FOR: B Deledio, B Goddard, D Martin, D Swan, J Hogan, J Laverde (C Daniel, N Krakouer)

I've only got $2,000 in change and I think I need a considerable amount more to cover any corrective trading before prices change.
I'm also just about losing sleep over my ruck combo. I've been a "set and forget" kinda coach since I started this great game and now I've got Tom effin' Bellchambers on my field. Don't be shy on ripping me apart, community, because I feel like I deserve it.

    Donavan · 02/03/2015 at 21:14

    Jack,

    I like your entire team, except for Bellchambers. You are going to have to downgrade somewhere. If Jed Anderson is a rd1 starter, I would consider downgrading Rich to Anderson, than upgrade Bellchambers (sleep is too important, to waste on him).

Jamie · 02/03/2015 at 21:25

Can i get some feedback on this team at the moment, Postive or Negative,
In no particular order –
DEF – shaw, newnes lumumba, johannisen, langdon, geary, (whitecross, goddard)
MIDS – ablett, selwood ,beams, S. mitchell, swan, rich, Van Berlo, DeGoey ( lambert, heeney, lang. )
RUCKS – Lycett Nicholls, (read)
FOR – deledio, bartel, mitchell, karnezis, hogan, clark, laverde, lamb

    Tom · 02/03/2015 at 21:50

    Thinking of running with Lycett as well, glad to see i'm not the only one!

    When Dean Cox wasn't playing Lycett scored: 104, 89, 117, 68 and 108. Significant!

BIS · 02/03/2015 at 21:32

hi community, looking for some advice
DEF: B.Smith, M.Hibberd, J.Newnes, G.Ibbotson, N.Brown, H.Goddard (Rainbow, McKenzie)
MIDS: G.Ablett, S.Pendlebury, N.Fyfe, P.Dangerfield, J.Steven, T.Mitchell, D.Wells,B.Newton (Freeman, Boekhorst, Lambert)
RUC: M.Leuenberger, T.Bellchambers (Cox)
FOR: B.Deledio, H.Bennel, D.Swan, M.Bont, C.Salem, J.Hogan (Laverde, Krakouer)
got $29,900 thinking of downgrading one mid pricer and upgrading another
thoughts?

    Donavan · 02/03/2015 at 22:08

    BIS,

    Like most of your team, but N.Brown & Bellchambers need to go.

    I would perhaps look to downgrade T.Mitchell or D.Wells to Jed Anderson, then upgrade Bellchambers to Naitanui.

    Switch N.Brown out for a rookie Defender.

      Jayden · 03/03/2015 at 00:43

      That ruck line could get injured pretty quick

      t_mitch · 03/03/2015 at 06:04

      i dont think t mitchell should be wasting space in anybodys mids, only foward but personaly i think hes set to burn everybody for a second year running, i just dont think he fits in to longmires plans to be honest, dominates the state league but dosent get a call up, he must be doing somthing wrong

        Jayden · 03/03/2015 at 14:19

        Longmire has said this year that he reckons Mitch will have a big year

Deeman · 02/03/2015 at 21:53

Great team BIS, maybe downgrade Bennell or Bont to a rookie, maybe use cash to upgrade Brown in your backline. Or use it to upgrade in ruck for less risk there. Steven, Mitchell, Wells is too big a gamble for mine.

Tom · 02/03/2015 at 22:19

Considering running with Nic Nat and Lycett is it a bad idea to go with two rucks from the same team?

    Donavan · 02/03/2015 at 22:49

    Yes, it sounds risky to have your 2 on-ground rucks from the same team. Must admit that last year I ended up with Sandilands, Naitanui and Lycett in the ruck, and on 1 occassion Naitanui was dropped late, and replaced with Lycett who scored over 90 points, so it worked on that occassion.

    Hazey · 02/03/2015 at 23:49

    I’m sitting with them both atm. With Darling out early on, Lycett is rumoured to be set for more time in the forward half. If you’re playing for the league win I reckon having the R/F loophole could save a couple of trades throughout the season.

    Donavan · 03/03/2015 at 20:54

    I think having Lycett is ok, so long as he is set for the forward line, and you have reed or cox to swing with Lycett if needed.

Donavan · 02/03/2015 at 22:42

Appreciate your thoughts, many of the rookies will likely be changed pending NAB challenge form-

Def – H.Shaw, Hibberd, Newnes, Vlastuin, C.Pearce, Goddard (Saad, Kolodjashni)
Mid – Ablett, Pendlebury, J.Kennedy, Hannebery, Wines, Anderson, Heeney, Laverde (Freeman, Manadue, Krakouer)
Ruck – Sandilands, Naitanui (Read)
Fwd – Goddard, Franklin, Swan, Walters, Salem, Karnezis (D.Menzel, Lambert)

$74,100 remaining in the bank, will be used to select the right rookies come round 1.

Thoughts appreciated.

    Gold Rush · 03/03/2015 at 01:13

    If my memory is correct, Vlastuin played a tag role in NAB 1

      Super_supercoach · 03/03/2015 at 01:24

      Yep I agree Gold Rush he's looking a bit risky when his 88% TOG is as far above the average as his points p/TOG is below the average. Not good signs for a D4 at 360K+

        t_mitch · 03/03/2015 at 06:00

        yeah vlaustin followed dahlhous around all game i think, any interest in him went for me, also unless your planning on dan menzel being a loophole hes still on long term injury list. i have hannebery at m5 i think hes going to take his game to a new level this year, great pod

MarcoPolo · 02/03/2015 at 23:30

cant say much till we see more games, however i wasnt that impressed with freeman. pretty sure he will be one of the first names out of the squad to make way for the 6 players missing unless he plays out of his skin these next two games.

    MarcoPolo · 02/03/2015 at 23:30

    @donavan

    Sarah · 03/03/2015 at 11:03

    Only played 53%. Don't read too much into it til after NAB 2 and 3. Could be being eased into it after his horror hamstring last year.

      vcloophole · 03/03/2015 at 17:19

      Agreed Sarah

        Give It A Go · 02/03/2015 at 14:55

        Same same

Jono · 02/03/2015 at 23:48

G'day community,
Absolutely loving all the words of wisdom here but none the less, racking my brains about my team. so far after changing my game plan for the 754th time I am still uncertain if it's the correct move but I have decided to go heavy-ish in the mid with premo to mid ish fwd with a couple of rooks. I think I'm just gonna let the backline fight for a spot in my team. So many uncertainties at this stage but I'm sure some rookies will make a big impression for a sideways trade.

My team so far, probably rubbish and maybe I'm throwing the backline to waste but I just need to know if anyone out there thinks I'm on the right track.

Def : Newnes, Langdon, C.Pearce (if picked), M.Dick, Goddard, Maynard (Saad, Rainbow)
Mid : Gablett, Pendels, J.Selwood, D.Beams, Wines, B.Crouch, Hallahan, De Goey (Heeney, J.Anderson, Boekhorst)
Ruc : Goldy, NicNat (M.Cox)
Fwd : Bartel, Goddard, Swan, T.Mitchell, Salem, Hogan (C.Daniel, Lambert)

I'm thinking is it a risk to pick both crouchy and wines in the side and what does the community think about Biggs, Turner, Higgins, Z.Clark and S.White? At some stage have all been in my side.

    Jayden · 03/03/2015 at 00:41

    Backline is a bit to weak and relying on too many rookies back there
    Maybe cut one of wines/crouch to a cheap rookie( the likes of freeman or someone else) should save you 400k or there around abouts
    Then upgrade a rookie to like Simpson/smith/hibberd

    Super_supercoach · 03/03/2015 at 01:42

    Hi Jono Maybe look at Hamling instead of Rainbow, Hamling had 55%TOG scored at 1.04 points p/1%TOG which is well above the average so far.
    Rainbow 27%TOG at 0.11 points p/1%TOG is a long way off AFL. Dick had 68% TOG at 0.51 but isn’t much closer than rainbow.
    There are quite a few rookies you should re-think if their teams have played and they haven’t or if they were crap.

    Sarah · 03/03/2015 at 11:05

    Yes you'll beat everyone at the start of the year, but you won't be able to make enough money to fully upgrade your team. I see that team slowly sliding down your league ladders.

      Derek · 03/03/2015 at 21:59

      Going cheap DEF seems good idea this year, but you are going to the extream

        Jono · 04/03/2015 at 00:45

        Yeh its just a bit hard to pick em at this stage. Won't be sure until closer round 1.
        Anyways, again, great feedback guys. Thank you heaps
        Have done a major shuffle…. And changed my gameplay yet again …
        Taken the advice and thought I'd trade out crouchy for freeman, and down grade NicNat for z.smith to free up some cash to upgrade dick and Pearce for shaw and Higgins down back.

        Def : shaw, Higgins, Newnes, Langdon, hamling, Goddard (saad, Maynard)
        Mid : gaz, Pendels, jelwood, beams, wines, Hallahan, de Goey ( freeman, Steele, kraks)
        Ruc : Goldy and z.smith (cox)
        Fed : no change

        Not sure about Hallahan now.. Lol

      Jono · 04/03/2015 at 00:47

      You do make a good point but I guess my thinking was trying to pick the right rooks to generate the cash to trade.
      But then again… That's always they key.

Jayden · 03/03/2015 at 00:32

Thoughts on my side
Backs: Simpson, smith, newnes, docherty, Goddard, Maynard (Mckenzie, saad)
Mids: Ablett, Pendlebury, Selwood, ward, rich, Newton, Biggs, freeman (Boekhorst, Laverde, Payne)
Rucks: Goldstein, Naitanui (read)
Fwds: Goddard, Martin, swan, bontempelli, Clark, hogan ( Steele, lambert)
109k left

Super_supercoach · 03/03/2015 at 00:51

For those who like the numbers here’s a quick summary of NAB so far. Make from what you will, the full data has identified some unexpected additions to my watch list.

309 Players used
3 Players on ground for 100% of total game time
25 on ground for 90% or more of total game time

Of the 25 on ground for 90-100% of Game time, only four scored 100+. Higgins & Crouch topped with 136 and 127 respectively 92% and 94%.

Of the 309 players used so far 41 have scored 100 or more and, significantly maybe, only 16 of them are MID only for SC and 11 others are DEF eligible.

Only two players managed to score at a rate above 2.00 points per 1% of TOG. Jimmy Bartel at 2.06 is top of that list.

20 players scored at a rate above 1.49 points per 1% TOG of them six are Def eligible, six are mid only and two are rucks. Bob Murphy was twelfth on the list at 1.69

    Super_supercoach · 03/03/2015 at 01:13

    Additionally, The average score for the round so far is 64 and 139 players achieved it
    The average TOG is 71% with 199 players spending at least that much TOG
    The average points per 1%TOG is 0.89

      Jayden · 03/03/2015 at 01:39

      Hey mate where are you getting your preseason stats from?

        Super_supercoach · 03/03/2015 at 12:25

        Hi Jayden, The stats were produced using FREE official data from AFL website and HeraldSun website

          Jayden · 03/03/2015 at 13:33

          Ok cool as mate might have a look when I get some free time

    Sarah · 03/03/2015 at 11:08

    Great work Super!! You care to share the list of the players scoring at a rate above 1.49 points per 1% TOG?

      Super_supercoach · 03/03/2015 at 12:29

      Hi Sarah, Give a woman a fish and she eats for a day, teach the woman to fish and she can feed herself for life.
      TOG data is in the AFL game stats just divide the TOG by the SC scores at herald sun.

      I promise you that its worth the effort if you're trying to find the best rookie or a break out contender that the clubs are trying to hide until the real stuff starts

        Sarah · 03/03/2015 at 12:32

        I do realise how to get the information. Just thought you might be a little more helpful.

          Super_supercoach · 03/03/2015 at 12:42

          Would you like me to pick your team for you as well? It's preseason sweetheart and there are no shortcuts.

            Sarah · 03/03/2015 at 12:47

            Don't call me sweetheart.

            Anyway, it's only the first game of the NAB. Most of the games were irrelevant because one team was stacked and the other full of first year players. NAB 2 and 3 will show us far more information.

              Super_supercoach · 03/03/2015 at 12:50

              Sorry Princess.

                Sarah · 03/03/2015 at 12:53

                Grow up.

                  General Soreness · 03/03/2015 at 12:58

                  Now now, play nice you two.

scano · 03/03/2015 at 08:47

I really like the look of Hallahan but with the likes of Ablett and O'Meara out of the nab game I think it might be unlikely for him to keep scoring so high. Thoughts?

    derek · 03/03/2015 at 09:49

    Higgo said that before the start of the NAB games. Beware who is NOT playing. There are a number of players falling into the same boat, Anderson is another. Anderson won't get a game ahead of Hill and Smith.

    shezza · 03/03/2015 at 17:40

    Did Prestia play?

carlashirley90 · 03/03/2015 at 09:23

Hey just a an attempt to make a team, been finding it hard to make any real good looking team here but want to show this one, sigh

defense Simpson, Kelly, Newnes, Langdon, C Pearce, H.Goddard (Rainbow, McKenzie)
Midfield Ablett, Pendlebury, S Selwood, Wines, A Swallow, Rich, NVB, Boakhurst (Vandenburg, Freeman, Laverde)
ruck Naitanui, Z Smith (cox)
Forward Deledio, Swan, Lycett, T Mitchell, Salam, Hogan (Daniel, Krakouer)

C Pearce not sure on his role this year but was once a 75+ player
Z Smith never had him in my side but could be his year?

    General Soreness · 03/03/2015 at 09:58

    Nice work Carla, this year there is a dearth of Def top end and bottom end which means compromises on various lines and therefore no team is 100% Zoolander "really really good looking". Keep following the posts on this site, by the look of the rooks your including your doing your research and your team looks solid. Personally the two you have identified in Pearce and Smith are the two that concern me the most. I do not see Pearce as a best 22 and would rather risk a rookie. Smith needs to be watched over the rest of NAB to see if he is number 1 ruck or number 2 to Nicholls. Also keep watching Boekhorst, his NAB 1 was woeful.

      I N Pieman · 03/03/2015 at 11:45

      Agree with the Pearce comment General. If there's a rookie that can take his spot he's out. If he gets dropped where do you go with 278k. I think Nicholls is a better ruckman than Smith so I'm not jumping on either.

Tommykwr · 03/03/2015 at 10:02

Any league codes?

    Redgumwon · 03/03/2015 at 13:34

    Do you want to play in a Supercoach Draft league? I posted up above but here are the details again. We've got 3 places left now

    We've got a Supercoach Draft private league and currently we have 4 places left open. Is anyone interested in playing? If your interested the league code is 463497

    I can also be emailed at [email protected] if anyone is having trouble getting into the league

Derek · 03/03/2015 at 10:59

Anyone know how Fuller from the Bulldogs is going. Had him on my bench most of last year, can’t remember why? Must have been on rookie radar last year but no talk this year.

    General Soreness · 03/03/2015 at 11:04

    Had shoulder surgery end of last season which meant didn't return until January is my understanding, I remember someone on here early Feb stating that he was only just looking to start back contact work, if my memory is correct.

      Derek · 03/03/2015 at 12:46

      Thanks GS. He might be a mid year option.

Derek · 03/03/2015 at 11:01

I feel like I need to have two of, Simpson, shaw or Kelly. Who would be better?

    I N Pieman · 03/03/2015 at 11:40

    Can't help but think of the 30 Simpson had last season when he got tagged. Based on that Shaw & Kelly.

    Sarah · 03/03/2015 at 12:35

    I have all 3.

    General Soreness · 03/03/2015 at 12:43

    Shaw and Simpson would be ahead of any combo involving Kelly, he is solid but feel his best is in the past.

pauly walnuts · 03/03/2015 at 11:02

Bye Predictor – unless I'm missing something I cant see this on the SC page which was on there LY ??

I N Pieman · 03/03/2015 at 12:02

Lots of people talking about Sam Mitchell. Buyer beware. Chances of him playing 22 games with a 110 av is less than 1%. He's injury prone & when the games in the bag he sits on the pine.

    Derek · 03/03/2015 at 12:48

    That is what I have been saying, he sits down and watches the junk time.

      Redgumwon · 03/03/2015 at 13:32

      Point taken and I've removed Sam Mitchell from the team. Swallow (NTH) or Crouch (ADEL) looks to be far better value at a similar price.

        I N Pieman · 03/03/2015 at 13:40

        Absolutely Red. Those 2 are far better options. Younger & more durable. I like Crouch. Only problem with him is he's playing with Danger & Sloane. If Danger walks at the end of the year I'd be very interested in him next year.

          Redgumwon · 03/03/2015 at 14:01

          Crouch is a very good player and I hope that his injury problems are behind him now. I think Crouch can still be very effective with both Danger & Sloane. A little like Ollie Wines is in the Port midfield.

          So far I've locked Gazza, Pendles, J. Selwood, Wines, A. Swallow, I'm now looking to fill the balance of the midfield with T. Mitchell (SYD) Lang (GEEL) Anderson (HAW) Freeman (COLL) Hiscox (SYD) Lambert (RICH)

          But I'll be looking over the whole side and trying to slot in Danger if I can

          I N Pieman · 03/03/2015 at 14:42

          Personally Red I wouldn’t waste a mid spot on anyone you can put in the fwd line. I have Danger ATM. Have a feeling he’s in for a big year. And he can record some enormous scores.

            Redgumwon · 03/03/2015 at 15:03

            I had the same feeling about Danger from my first draft side. Then I took Danger out after the first wave of NAB Cup games. Jimmy B, Kelly, Langdon, Higgins. Zac Smith all looked good. So I tinkered with the side a little and Danger went out. Back to the drawing board now it seem 🙁 I hear you about Dangers big score and if he is fit unlike last year he'll blow them out of the water this year.

            Are you interested in playing a Draft league? We have 3 spots left in our league

            NateCrows · 03/03/2015 at 16:07

            Yep. Danger was sore and still averaged 105. Adelaide have more help for him in the midfield. Will dominate

              derek · 03/03/2015 at 17:31

              I have Pridis in my team, but I'm thinking that is pretty safe, to safe! maybe Dangerfield has more to offer?

Mitch · 03/03/2015 at 13:24

Any chance you could bring out the Higginator team analysis for 2015?

    General Soreness · 03/03/2015 at 14:29

    Damn link wont post….needless to say it was released on 22 December.

Redgumwon · 03/03/2015 at 13:31

Hey Jock maybe you could start a section for other people that might want to advertise their leagues for member here to play in if they don't make the list to play in your leagues? Just an idea

Nate · 03/03/2015 at 14:28

Hey Guys,

can you have a squiz at the team.
I know the Ruck and forward line is a bit line.
D – Shaw, Enright, Newnes, Higgins, Langdon, Geary, (Clurey, Whitecross)
M- GAJ, Fyfe, Priddis, Danger, Wines, Swallow, VB, Anderson (Heeney, Leverde, Dumont)
R – Nic Nat, Bellchamber (Cox)
F – Bartel, Swan, Knights, Clark, Hogan, Lambert (Daniel, Krakouer)

Had Bennell isntead of Bartel and had jacobs in there but wanted to up the defensive line. The rookies tend to be harder to pick on that line and get less points

thanks

    I N Pieman · 03/03/2015 at 14:55

    Not bad Nate. Your buying Higgins at a keeper price. That doesn’t sit comfortably with me at all. Personally id send him down to Pearce or Whitecross type & send Knights up to a keeper.

      Redgumwon · 03/03/2015 at 15:19

      I buggered up my reply

      How about move Higgins forward and remove Clurey for Goddard (St Kilda) ???

        Nate · 03/03/2015 at 15:45

        not many options in D. Martin harvey, goddard,

        Will Higgins be a keeper in D? I think he might be top 10 at least

        I had it around that way before… Tough choice

      Nate · 03/03/2015 at 15:47

      I know what you mean. Newnes is only 30k more and most would say hes a keeper, maybe top 5?

      Hardest spots for me are juggling this back and forwards.

      whats your forwards and back look like Pie man

        I N Pieman · 03/03/2015 at 16:09

        ATM Nate I have Dusty Swan T Mitch Salem Krak Lambert Daniel & Steele. I’m loading up in the mids

          NateCrows · 03/03/2015 at 16:28

          Krak needs to be elevated to play doesn't he?

          I wonder why Daniel didn't get a gig on the weekend

          NateCrows · 03/03/2015 at 16:29

          Also,

          Is T mitchell going to get a mid field gig or take the place of Mal? I thought rohan or Heeney might slip into the half back role

          I N Pieman · 03/03/2015 at 16:46

          Krak needs to be elevated. Got a strong feeling he will. It was interesting Daniel didn’t play but I think they wanted to look at other kids. If he’s not in the next one there’s cause for concern. Mitchell is a mid ball magnet. Surely this is the year.

Redgumwon · 03/03/2015 at 15:05

How about move Higgins forward and remove Clurey for Goddard (St Kilda) ???

TigerTuff · 03/03/2015 at 15:20

If you had to pick 2 of 3 of Freeman(Coll), Steele(GWS) and Lambert(Rich)
Who would you choose?

    Cam_H · 03/03/2015 at 15:43

    I really won't make a final call until the 'season proper' starts, however I'm personally putting both Freeman and Steele in my team as placeholders. While Richmond has one unfilled spot in its Seniors List, until Lambert is announced as elevated off Richmond's Rookie List I'd steer clear. With that said, both Anthony Miles and Crouching are excited by Lambert, so he might indeed be given that Seniors List place soon enough.

Jimmmmmmmmma · 03/03/2015 at 15:32

M.Clark or C.Salem?
Who will have more output do you reckon?

    Ash · 03/03/2015 at 16:18

    Salem has a possible role change as a running back, could do wonders for his score. As a second year player I don't think he will see the vest as much as he did last year. Clark is a huge injury risk.

    derek · 03/03/2015 at 17:39

    Salem has been locked in my team from the get go.

King Menace · 03/03/2015 at 15:49

Toby Greene anyone? Big POD, won't get tagged and an easy run?

    vcloophole · 03/03/2015 at 17:35

    You could do a lot worse King

NateCrows · 03/03/2015 at 16:05

Can you pick Geary after his effort on the weekend?

    I N Pieman · 03/03/2015 at 16:17

    Looks good value. And should have good job security

    General Soreness · 03/03/2015 at 16:53

    Worthy selection if he goes at close to 100+ in next two NAB's, if he goes at 75 or lower raises ??'s

NateCrows · 03/03/2015 at 16:26

Where is Newnes playing? Is he in the guts or off half back?
Billings looks like he may struggle for round 1, maybe not a bad option having both in the backline

    I N Pieman · 03/03/2015 at 17:54

    Newnes is playing mainly in the guts. First picked defender.

jimmy7 · 03/03/2015 at 18:25

Ok, hopefully everyone hasn't run out on comments on everyone else's teams!!?

DEF: Shaw, walker, Newnse, mcdonald, edwards, goddard (Rainbow, saad)
MID: Ablett, JP kennedy, sidebottom, priddis, deledio, rich, moribioto, vandenberg (laverde, freeman, steele)
RUC: Lobbe, NicNat (nankervis)
Forward: Goddard, Martin, swan, mitchell, salem, hogan (krakouer, lambert)
only $8,600 #honesty will help heaps, cheers

    Cam_H · 03/03/2015 at 18:40

    Walker has a knee injury.
    Morabito has a knee injury.
    Lots of your rookies are club-listed rookies and will need to be elevated onto their clubs' senior lists – check who's available closer to the start of the season.

    Buncha · 03/03/2015 at 18:42

    Walker is injured/underdone so I'd reconsider that one for Round 1.

    Derek · 03/03/2015 at 22:03

    First team I’ve seen with Lobbe in it.

Jimmy Joe · 03/03/2015 at 18:39

Hi there community.

I’m interested to hear some thoughts on a Bartel vs Buddy debate. Buddy has a higher ceiling but I’m convinced that Bartel is more consistent. Does Bartel’s consistency win over Buddy’s ability for high scores? Would love your thoughts!

    scano · 03/03/2015 at 18:45

    Bartel also has a very high ceiling and if the nab cup game is anything to go by (more midfield time) Bartel would be my pick.

      Derek · 03/03/2015 at 22:05

      Bartel is a junk time expert, buddy gets rested

tom · 03/03/2015 at 18:43

Can someone explain why Henderson scored so low?

    BarronVonCrow · 03/03/2015 at 19:56

    Cause he barely touched it! Spent more time watching the game being played than actually getting involved himself. Will need to pull his socks up.

      scano · 04/03/2015 at 14:27

      haha he definitely will Barron! Was set with him at D5 but with that score, i will have to rethink.

Willy's Hotrods · 03/03/2015 at 20:49

I know there have been a few other comments about league codes but how do you qualify for one of Jock's leagues? I assume you have to start at the bottom somewhere but where is that. I want to take my coaching to the next level and competing against people on ths sites would seem like a pretty good way to do that.

Cheers
Mike

Donavan · 03/03/2015 at 22:37

Is anyone in the community setting their team up with the Hugh Goddard / Shaun Higgins (Def/Fwd) swing set.

Its an usual swing-set, as most are either Def/Mid or Mid/Fwd, but if Higgins continues to impress in the NAB challenge, and with all of the rookies, in both the defense and the forward lines, and the possibility of us needing to rely upon them, the ability to swing Higgins to either line may be useful. This assumes that Hugh Goddard's scores may not initially warrant on-field selection.

Thoughts?

    General Soreness · 04/03/2015 at 09:50

    Nope and I would suggest to anyone considering them both to put them in their Def lines, need as much help as we can get in Def. You can still swing Goddard on a downgrade target if required.

Donavan · 03/03/2015 at 22:50

Planning your team with the byes in mind?

I have changed my team more times than my underwear in the past week, and kept myself clean…lol

I have made many of my tough calls based on the byes, but am unsure if this is wise given that there will be 10 rounds before the first week of byes, which is sure to include a number of trades (probably 10+).

I find my team well balanced in terms of byes, but had to make some small compromises to achieve the balance, is it worth it?

I now have-
Round 11 – 8 players with byes (22 scoring players)
Round 12 – 12 players with byes (18 scoring players) would like more than 18 come round 12
Round 13 – 10 players with byes (20 scoring players)

How is everyone else doing? and are people picking picking a team to max point scoring in the first 10 rounds, or to max point scoring through the first 13 rounds (byes included).

    Mozz · 04/03/2015 at 07:48

    atm i have
    10 in round 11
    10 in round 12
    10 in round 13

    it's not dependent on your starting team, because you are bound to trade. It's the trades that you make that will determine your score output

    General Soreness · 04/03/2015 at 09:48

    The article in the magazine deals with this brilliantly. Talks about trading strategy and byes.

Tully46 · 04/03/2015 at 10:39

Tully46 says:

March 4, 2015 at 9:46 am

First time I’m getting on this website, I was wondering if you guys had any improvements on my team:

Back: Burgoyne,hibberd,newnes,fisher,whitecross,dick

(Goddard,saad) I know I have a few Saint players!

Midfield: Ablett,pendles,danger,Griffen, Langford, Hallahan, Newton. Freeman.(vanderberg,lambert,krakoeur)

Ruck: maric, Nic Nat.(nankervis)

Forward:Gray,goddard,swan,Mitchell,hogan, Daniel

(Karnezis,Steele)

$26,900

Thanks for your input guys!

    General Soreness · 04/03/2015 at 11:00

    Tully I made some comments on your team posted in the other thread. Welcome to the site, enjoy the volume of reading ahead of you, make sure you digest all of it as it is full of gems and worthy pointers to take SC to next level.

Gold Rush · 04/03/2015 at 15:58

Reckon you should give Dick the arse mate, huge flop on his first outing.

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