NAB Supercoach Significance Report – Adelaide VS North Melbourne

Barron Von Crow - inner sanctumIt was a 3 quarter effort from the Crows, but they still did enough to get the win against a surging North Melbourne side. Both teams were missing a large chunk of players we’ll likely see line up when these two teams face each other in Round 1, but it was still good to see how some of the rookie players performed, and also getting to see the new additions in action for their new clubs as well as the return of Nathan Van Berlo and the first game for the Crows under Captain Tex.

Absent Best 22 Players:

Adelaide: Patrick Dangerfield, Sam Jacobs, Richard Douglas, Scott Thompson, David Mackay, Andy Otten, Brent Reilly, Brodie Smith, Kyle Cheney

North Melbourne: Andrew Swallow, Todd Goldstein, Scott D. Thompson, Sam Wright, Michael Firrito, Nathan Grima, Lachie Hansen, Aaron Black

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Significant Performances:

  • Brad Crouch (MID, $508,200) – Played most of the game in the middle and excelled with 26 disposals, 9 clearances, 3 tackles and kicked 1.1. Also had 14 contested possessions and 3 Inside 50’s. Don’t think he came on the ground at all in the 4th.
  • Shaun Higgins (DEF/FWD, $410,900) – In and out a bit at the start of the game, but looked very good playing in North’s forward half for most of the game. Had 17 disposals, 5 marks, 3 Inside 50’s and kicked 3.2 with 9 score involvements. Certainly encouraging signs for Higgo! May have been enough to make me consider picking him in DEF (Sorry Jock!)
  • Jarryd Lyons (MID/FWD, $322,500) – Was excellent around the stoppages with 20 disposals, 4 tackles, 3 clearances and 3 rebound 50’s. Still needs to work on his disposal, with his DE sitting at 55%. Remains to be seen if he’ll get that much time in the middle when Dangerfield, Douglas and Thompson return, which would impact his scoring potential.
  • Daniel Wells (MID, $361,400) – Solid in the 1st half, but didn’t do much in the 2nd. 11 disposals, 2 clearances and 1.1. Was subbed out for the 4th quarter, but showed enough in the 1st half to keep him on your radars if you’re after a mid-priced midfielder
  • Nathan Van Berlo (MID, $215,600) – Looked rusty in the 1st half (to be expected though), but looked more comfortable as the game progressed. Mostly played on the wing with stints on-ball, and had 13 disposals, 2 clearances, 5 Inside 50’s and kicked the games only supergoal. Gave away 3 free kicks.
  • Majak Daw (FWD, $281,400) – Made some of the Crows talls look like children with his massive size. Had 14 possessions, 24 hitouts, 7 marks (3 contested), 3 inside 50’s and 3 clearances. Looks much more comfortable in the ruck than playing as a forward.
  • Eddie Betts (FWD, $426,600) – Great game for his hometown and was too much for Max Warren to handle, kicking 4.1 and one umpires head, to go along with 16 possessions, 2 clearances and 8 score involvements. Still not Supercoach relevant, despite the good game.
  • Kanye Turner (FWD, $308,500) – Looked lively playing half forward for the Roos. Had 13 disposals, 6 tackles, 4 Inside 50’s and kicked a goal. Also had 4 clangers as well. Might be slightly overpriced to consider.

OTHER NOTES

  • Waite looked OK for North up forward and presented a nice target though he didn’t get a ton of opportunities. Took advantage of what he was given, kicking 3.1.
  • James Podsiadly played most of the game in the back half for the Crows.
  • Sam Kerridge played up forward and a bit in the middle for the Crows. Looked OK, but I imagine his midfield time may decrease when the Crows other midfielders return.
  • Keenan Ramsey looked OK for a rookie with 7 disposals, 4 marks and a goal up forward. Still on the rookie list, but the Crows have room to bring up a pair of players.
  • Ben Jacobs was very good for the Roos with 16 disposals, 12 of which were by foot. He’s $258,500, if he keeps up some decent play he could be a nice DEF option.
  • Tom Lynch was concussed early in the 1st quarter and did not play for the rest of the game. Looked good early, kicking 1.1 in the opening minutes of the game.
  • Both Sloane and Tex were quiet for the Crows, but this game was more about giving opportunities to younger players.

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So Community, for those of you who watched the game, what did you think of the performances of the North and Adelaide players and has this game changed your mind at all about any players you were considering?


54 Comments

Jack · 01/03/2015 at 20:28

Great Work Barron. Is there a concern about Sloane do you think? Heard a little whisper that the saints were throwing a big free agency carrot and like Danger he might feel it this year and that may reflect in his scores. Thoughts?

    @BarronVonCrow · 01/03/2015 at 20:36

    Heard the same rumour, but I don't think he'd be talking about post playing loyalty schemes and such if he was thinking about leaving. Not really at all concerned about him leaving at this stage.

Pauly Walnuts · 01/03/2015 at 20:32

Barron ole mate , do you have Van Berlo in your team ATM ? I value your Crow inside knowledge ! Also do you think Majak might have been a factor this year if he was a R & F ?

    @BarronVonCrow · 01/03/2015 at 20:38

    No VB in my side Pauly, but that's more for structural reasons rather than anything else. He potentially could have been a factor if he was RUC/FWD, but i'm not sure where he'd play. Goldstein was out so he got 1st ruck duties, I think they'd be going in too tall if they had Waite/Petrie/Daw sitting as their forwards for large chunks of the game.

Reggie · 01/03/2015 at 20:35

Any Idea why the match wasn't played live on the AFL live app? I have a subscription but was only able to watch the Suns v Cats.

    @BarronVonCrow · 01/03/2015 at 20:39

    This was one of the games that they weren't going to show on AFL Live/Fox Footy originally, but ended up letting the teams stream it on their own websites.

Trab Pukcip · 01/03/2015 at 20:36

Thanks for the report Barron, you more convinced on Crouch now or still 50/50? He is a lock at M6 in my team, can see him being the main guy in the guts for them…!? Will pump out solid scores, with the occasional higher score and depending on form can be a hold or a late easy upgrade. Great to for overall rank players IMO!!

Mozz · 01/03/2015 at 20:37

Good Job Barron!

Can anyone back me up in saying that Daw is going to have a breakout year? I've been a big fan of him since he started at North and have started with him in my team each year, only to be dissapointed time and time again.
Is this the year for Daw? Awkwardly priced at $281,500 but if he can actually play at his potential, then we are in for some massive scores.

    @BarronVonCrow · 01/03/2015 at 20:42

    Certainly looked better today that I've ever seen him, Mozz, but it's hard to see where he'd be consistently fitting in the Best 22 for the Roos at the moment.

      Hazey · 01/03/2015 at 23:42

      Agreed VBC….as a Roo’s supporter I’m not sure where he fits when Goldy is fit with Waite, Petrie, Brown to pinch hit. Interesting to see Currie appears to have fallen down the pecking order.

@jstorm311 · 01/03/2015 at 20:37

Great notes BVC! Love your work

crackman · 01/03/2015 at 20:45

What role did Henderson play? And will he slot back into that rebounding defender he was two years ago?

    @BarronVonCrow · 01/03/2015 at 20:48

    He was playing loose/rebounding across half back, but was subbed off at 3 quarter time.

      scott · 01/03/2015 at 20:55

      Will Henderson Smith or jensech play that sweeping half back role

        Hazey · 01/03/2015 at 23:44

        All 3 will rotate through simply to frusrste supercoaches everywhere! 🙁

      crackman · 01/03/2015 at 20:58

      Thanks Barron

Pauly Walnuts · 01/03/2015 at 20:50

As a side issue,apologies BVC, but is anyone having trouble with SC App ? I'm using an iPad but that shouldn't be an issue.

    @jstorm311 · 01/03/2015 at 20:53

    Is the 2015 app out yet? Last I heard it wasn't released yet….

uDonkey · 01/03/2015 at 21:01

Awesome job BVC!

Higgins is locked in my team BVC he did enough to convince me as my D3. VB was really rusty at the start, but got better as the game went on. Got him penciled in my M7 for now.

    @BarronVonCrow · 01/03/2015 at 22:34

    Yea, encouraging signs from both of them from this game. Hopefully they can keep it up.

FC HAWKSTOWE · 01/03/2015 at 22:17

Why was Sloane quite? Did he play down forward a lot did he?

    @BarronVonCrow · 01/03/2015 at 22:34

    Mostly just had others playing on the ball, Lyons, Crouch, Grigg, Ellis-Yolmen etc played more than he did.

      FC HAWKSTOWE · 01/03/2015 at 22:38

      Sweet. Thanks Barron!

Franch the frenchman · 01/03/2015 at 22:19

Did Lever play? if so how did he fair?

    @BarronVonCrow · 01/03/2015 at 22:35

    Nope, they've said they're going to take it slowly with him. Don't expect to see him at all during the NAB Cup.

Craig · 01/03/2015 at 22:20

Barron, Lekdog, Jock et al……… these are very valuable reviews for those us who haven't seen the matches. Top men!

    @BarronVonCrow · 01/03/2015 at 22:35

    Cheers, Craig, glad to hear you're getting something out of them.

splinter · 01/03/2015 at 22:25

wells was subbed out a half time, if it helps

    @BarronVonCrow · 01/03/2015 at 22:35

    Cool, thanks Splinter. I thought I saw him in the 3rd, but they mentioned he was off for the 4th.

Tylo · 01/03/2015 at 22:40

Hey Barron. What role was McMillan playing and did he get much of the ball?

    BarronVonCrow · 02/03/2015 at 18:27

    Macmillan did OK, 16 touches with 4 rebound 50's, but his DE sat at 56%. Wasn't the greatest day for it though with the wind.

FootyFanatic · 02/03/2015 at 15:50

Why was C.Ellis-Yolmen not mentioned? From the stats side it looked like he had a good game collecting 17 possessions, 1 goal and 3 tackles. Did any one get to watch him play, if so how did he look?

    BarronVonCrow · 02/03/2015 at 18:31

    Stats were OK on the surface, and with his size he's shown he can be a decent clearance player, but his disposal was god-awful at times (I reckon he missed an open Eddie Betts by about 10 metres at one point), which has been his problem since he was drafted and why he's only played about 10 minutes of AFL football over the past 4 seasons.

      FootyFanatic · 02/03/2015 at 19:46

      Thanks Barron, didn't know he had been in the system for such a long time

        BarronVonCrow · 02/03/2015 at 20:04

        Yea, he's probably one of those guys who's had a tiny bit of an extended shelf life because of the Crows previous draft sanctions. He's got the physical tools to be a player, but you'd have to question if he'll ever make it if he's still having disposal issues after so long. I actually thought he might be in line for a tagging role since he's strong and quick, so he could probably match up defensively on a player and just worry about shutting him down.

          FootyFanatic · 02/03/2015 at 20:17

          That sounds like a well matched role for him but wouldn't make him very super coach relevant, since your a crows man what are your thoughts on Crouch? Do you think he can make the next step? I have been switching between him and wines for my M5 position and can't split the two.

            BarronVonCrow · 02/03/2015 at 20:30

            Yea, he'd be a definite skip in Supercoach if that's the sort of thing he'll be playing with.

            I think he can, he scored well last year coming off an interrupted pre-season and a broken leg, so if he can stay healthy I like his chances. Would probably like to see him kick the ball a bit more than he handballs, which may swing it in Wines favour, but I currently have them both as my M5/M6 at this stage. It looks like the Crows will play with their full midfield setup against Geelong and Port, so I think we'll get a real good look at him in those two games.

              FootyFanatic · 02/03/2015 at 20:40

              Thanks once again Barron, you've definitely given me food for thought!

              NateCrows · 03/03/2015 at 17:35

              Thats good news.

              I want to gauge the output of crouch with a full strength midfield.
              He averaged enough with only 12-16 games or so last year.

              Would be nice to see a consistent 110ave

yurkins · 02/03/2015 at 16:23

great work BVC. i watched the game and thought that Higgins looked a goer. watch the next 2 NABs to see if he is a lock down back. Question mark over NVB but price wise is good value.
thanks for the review

    BarronVonCrow · 02/03/2015 at 18:31

    Yep, Higgins looked good, and I liked the look of Ben Jacobs as a cheaper smokie option too. NVB was rusty for sure, so hopefully he can start sharpening up as the NAB Cup progresses.

      NateCrows · 03/03/2015 at 17:32

      He gave away about 5 frees in a Qrt!

NateCrows · 03/03/2015 at 17:31

Barron,
What were the significant scores for this game?

What did Wells, VB, Crouch get etc.

Apologies if its right in front of me i couldn't see them.

thanks

    NateCrows · 03/03/2015 at 18:26

    I wonder what Betts scored…

    BarronVonCrow · 03/03/2015 at 19:33

    Scores for the day were

    164 Eddie Betts

    136 Shaun Higgins

    131 Majak Daw

    127 Brad Crouch

    101 Jarrad Waite

    96 Jarryd Lyons

    93 Jamie Macmillan

    89 Nick Dal Santo

    89 Jack Ziebell

    85 Rory Laird

    80 Ben Cunnington

    80 Ben Jacobs

    79 Sam Kerridge

    76 Matthew Jaensch

    75 Rory Sloane

    75 Daniel Wells

    74 Matthew Wright

    73 Cam Ellis-Yolmen

    72 Mitch Grigg

    68 Kayne Turner

    68 Ryan Bastinac

    66 Brent Harvey

    63 Luke Brown

    60 Joel Tippett

    59 Nathan van Berlo

    59 Drew Petrie

    59 Keenan Ramsey

    59 Taylor Walker

    58 Sam Gibson

    58 Daniel Currie

    57 Daniel Talia

    56 Sam Siggins

    56 Brodie Martin

    54 Reilly O’Brien

    51 Luke McDonald

    50 Scott McMahon

    49 Josh Jenkins

    49 Shaun Atley

    46 Charlie Cameron

    45 James Podsiadly

    42 Kyle Hartigan

    42 Trent Dumont

    33 Jake Kelly

    32 Robbie Tarrant

    31 Ricky Henderson

    30 Lindsay Thomas

    28 Max Warren

    23 Tom Lynch

    20 Ben Brown

    16 Brad McKenzie

    12 Harrison Wigg

    7 Daniel Nielson

      NateCrows · 03/03/2015 at 20:08

      Thanks mate.

      Wigg was the sub? I thought i saw him take a couple of kick ins. One clanger out on the full haha! I bet he was nervous.

      Betts 2nd year could he go full retard and boost his output by 15-20? From memory he had 79 ave last year and about 420k.
      Crouch normally has more marks he's busy around initial frees at stoppages. Still can't decide between him swallow and griff. Need to wait for the full strength midfield.

      I wanted Jake kelly to do more. Want him to get games.

      Lyons and Yolmen don't do it for me. Lyons looks lazy and Yolmen had a ripper but butchered the ball.

      Wells is teasing again. Next game will play 3-4 qrts and pull a 130 out and get a 60 the next week.

      Higgins is getting a lock if he plays through the middle next week.

        BarronVonCrow · 03/03/2015 at 20:15

        Yea, he was sub and did look to be a bit nervous out there. Nice learning experience for him though.

        Don't think there's much more Betts could do to boost his scores unless he gets rotated through the middle more, but I don't think he'd have the tank to deal with that. He did get a run against North, but it wasn't very long at all.

        I don't think Lyons is lazy, he just sometimes has that lackadaisical look to him. Smack had the same problem too. Yolmen was good, but yea, his ball use leaves a lot left to be desired. Not sure whether he'll be able to get it up to a level where it's not a total liability to have him in the side. Also add in the fact that he's not the only one at the Crows who butchers the ball a bit too.

          NateCrows · 03/03/2015 at 20:30

          No that's true i hope Yolmen, Kedge and Lyons get another shot.
          We need the depth.

          Wanted to see more of Lynch, he looks to duck at every opportunity and he's getting seriously injured now. I wanted to pick him but I don't trust him.

James Matsa · 03/03/2015 at 17:38

How do you feel Sloane and Dangerfield will affect Brad Crouch's output? I'm strongly considering the lad but the star power of Danger and Sloane puts me off.

    NateCrows · 03/03/2015 at 17:44

    He's a Macrae type, leads in close for easy possessions.

    Think he will be ok. Barron reckons next couple of games they will run a full strength midfield.

    BarronVonCrow · 03/03/2015 at 19:36

    No different than last year I'd say. With Walsh talking about wanting to play guys over multiple positions I dare say that means Danger will still be spending a bit of time rotating forward like he has in previous years.

Kyle · 11/03/2015 at 19:08

Thoughts on Reilly O'brien as a bench coverage option, played in first NAB and will line up against Geelong?

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