Version 2 – MIDFIELD ROOKIE WATCH

BarronThe middle! This is one of our highest priority areas this season. Not just because this is where you’ll likely get the bulk of your rookie priced points and cash generation, but because we now have 3 bench spots to fill in our midfield. Lucky for us we’ve got more than a few tasty prospects in the fridge as leftovers from 2014 such as Nathan Freeman, as well as some very interesting players taken in the most recent draft. So let’s go and look at the midfield prospects for 2015.

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  • Updated information for Rory Atkins
  • Updated information for Nathan Freeman
  • Updated information for Isaac Heeney
  • Updated information for Jarrod Garlett
  • Updated information for Patrick Cripps
  • Updated information for Nathan Van Berlo
  • Updated information for Alex Neal-Bullen
  • Updated information for Karl Amon
  • Updated information for Trent Dumont
  • Updated information for Liam Duggan
  • Updated information for Jono O’Rourke

 


SUPERCOACH ROOKIE MIDFIELD PROSPECTS

Note: All players are sorted by price (lowest to highest) and then alphabetically by last name.

PRIORITY WATCHLIST

Midfield rookies 2015

Rory Atkins – Adelaide – $123,900

Averaged 19 disposals and 6 marks in the SANFL for 2014. Adelaide Head Coach Phil Walsh says “I don’t like getting singular about it but Kyle Hartigan, Ricky Henderson, Rory Atkins and Josh Jenkins, some of the guys I didn’t know a lot about, I’ve seen some really good things from them.” when asked which players were impressing him so far in pre-season training.

UPDATED 20/01 – Adelaide Head Coach Phil Walsh has said that Round 1 of the NAB Cup will have plenty of fresh faces in the side such as Reilly O’Brien and Keenan Ramsey, but the next 2 NAB Cup games will likely be their “strongest” team. If Atkins is there in Round 2 of the NAB Cup, consider him a good chance for Round 1.

Nathan Freeman – Collingwood – $123,900

Has been pushing more senior players for the best times in the clubs internal time trials, Pies will likely look to play him early as they continue their rebuild.

UPDATED 23/01 – Collingwood teammate Travis Varcoe says about Freeman’s pre-season training efforts “He’s sort of been glossed over because he’s so fit and strong, but he’s one of those players, alongside Steele (Sidebottom, who are) pretty consistent, they’re always putting in their work. He’s probably going just as well as he was before Christmas, if not better.”

Blaine Boekhorst – Carlton – $132,300

Mature ager taken with Pick #19 this year. Mick Malthouse says “Then you look at Blaine and I look at that video and I know it’s only highlights, you never see lowlights, but it’s full of highlights and he’s the type of player we need. So these three lads (Boekhorst, Whiley and Jacksch) are going to be fantastic. I feel very excited about this group here and the No.1 thing I think we’ve got to look at is they’re our No.1 pick, not one player but three, a trilogy. I think they’re all capable of playing and have a fantastic opportunity to play a lot of senior football at this football club and I’m so excited about it.”

Isaac Heeney – Sydney – $137,300

Rated as one of the best players in the draft, despite going to the Swans late in the first round. Heeney could slot straight in for the departing Nick Malckeski, with Sydney Head Coach John Longmire saying “Jeremy Laidler played 19 games for us in defence, he didn’t play in the last few games but he had a good season as well. There’s also some of the kids we will look at, like Isaac Heeney, who we can school up at half-back.”

UPDATED 08/02 – John Longmire has said that Heeney is back to full training after missing some time with knee tendinitis and will be in line for a Round 1 NAB Cup spot.

Jarrod Garlett – Gold Coast – $152,300

Drafted by the Suns with pick #15, former Fremantle colts coach Arthur Maskos says “He played senior football for South Fremantle this year so I don’t see there would be any major problem (in playing AFL football in his first year)”

UPDATED 04/02 – With Jesse Lonergan rolling his ankle in pre-season training and potentially missing at least a month, Garlett may find his chances for a Round 1 birth improved.

Nakia Cockatoo – Geelong – $177,300

Drafted with pick #10, Geelong Head Coach Chris Scott says “The four draftees that we’ve brought in have all played some form of senior footy and we’re optimistic that they could have an impact straight away” and when asked if it will be possible for Cockatoo to play Round 1, Chris Scott said “It is”

Patrick Cripps – Carlton – $211,400

Broke his leg in the VFL, but played the Blues last game of 2014. Signed 3 year extension in December, Cripps says “At the end of the season I sat down with all of the coaches to discuss where they think I’m at and what they want from me for next year. What they said was encouraging: I’ve just got to keep working on my fitness, get up that base up, stay injury-free and be ready to go round one and that’s what I’ll be striving to do.”

UPDATED 28/01 – It has been reported that Cripps rolled his ankle playing volleyball and will likely miss a few weeks. He should be ready for the NAB Cup games, so it shouldn’t diminish his chances to play in Round 1.

UPDATED 07/02 – Carlton Midfield coach Dean Laidley says “”He is slowly building his tank and he is getting there. All of his running times are much improved. His body is now allowing him to do his work on the inside and run and spread from the inside out, which is tough to do, and get some uncontested footy. Working with him in the midfield this pre-season, I have been really pleased with his development and his growth as a player and a person. We can’t expect super big things from him, but I think he will have an impact.”

Dominic Sheed – West Coast – $214,500

Played 10 games last year and has continued to bulk up over the pre-season. Was heavily subbed last year which kept his price in a useable range.

Benjamin Newton- Melbourne – $215,000

Couldn’t break into the Power side, but played consistently good football in the SANFL. Competition for spots in the Demons midfield, but 22 year old Newton could have a leg up on his less experienced competitors.

Nathan Van Berlo – Adelaide – $215,600

Missed all of 2014 with a ruptured Achilles, but was close to returning last year, so getting through an entire pre-season as well will be a big boost. Adelaide Head Coach Phil Walsh recently indicated in a radio interview with 5AA that Van Berlo would be relieved of his “cooler” (tagging) duties and instead be freed up to go hunt the football. Prior to his average year in 2013 he had averages between 77 and 85 the 5 previous seasons.

UPDATED 23/01 – Asked about returning to football after missing all of the 2014 season, Van Berlo said “It’s a big year for myself and I’m going to have to make sure I get the full pre-season under my belt, which so far has been so good for me. Having missed 12 months of footy I’ve still got some ground to make up. I can’t wait to get out there again with my teammates in the NAB [Challenge].”

Blake Acres – St Kilda – $220,700

Signed a 3 year extension in September. Missed lots of time due to injuries last year, but if he’s healthy the rebuilding Saints shouldn’t have any hesitations in playing him early.

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POTENTIAL WATCHLIST

MAY NOT PLAY ROUND 1, BUT MAY GET SOME EARLY GAMES

Midfield rookies 2015 v2

Declan Hamilton – Western Bulldogs – $117,300

Drafted from the Port Adelaide Magpies with pick #39 by the Bulldogs, Bulldogs Recruiting Manager Simon Dalrymple says “He’s a half-forward/winger, outside, really good endurance, elite footy brain.”

UPDATED 15/01 – Asked about pre-season performances, Western Bulldogs Assistant Coach Steven King says “Declan Hamilton is going really well ”

Touk Miller – Gold Coast – $117,300

Will be tough to break into the Suns midfield, but Miller could get a shot as a small forward. Miller says “Making the round one team is the ultimate goal at the moment so fingers crossed I can work hard and get myself in the team”

Alex Neal-Bullen – Melbourne – $117,300

Dislocated his kneecap during training in mid-December, but didn’t suffer any major damage to his knee. Demons have more than a few new midfielders for Bullen to compete with.

UPDATED 27/01 – Once again Neal-Bullen has suffered a knee injury, with Melbourne Football Manager Josh Mahoney saying “Alex had an incident at the end of training yesterday where he dislocated his patella . It’s the same knee that he dislocated pre-Christmas in a wrestling session. This is only a minor dislocation and we’d expect him to recover quite quickly.”

Billy Stretch – Melbourne – $117,300

Father-Son pick for the Dees. Played senior football for Glenelg in the SANFL last year, his speed and outside skills may give him a leg up on debuting over his other draft mates.

Karl Amon – Port Adelaide – $123,900

Has been noted as impressing during the Power’s pre-season trip to Dubai. Had some good form in the SANFL and may be given a chance at some point during the year.

UPDATED 23/01 – After impressing senior players such as Kane Cornes, Brad Ebert and Travis Boak during his pre-season training in Dubai, Director of Coaching Shaun Hart says Amon will “play some quality senior football” in 2015.

Trent Dumont – North Melbourne – $123,900

Strong VFL form in 2014, but off-season issues may mean his debut is pushed back. Don’t think North Melbourne will be in a rush to blood their kids as they look to make a charge towards a Top 4 birth.

UPDATED 04/02 – In a recent Q&A session, North Melbourne Coach Brad Scott was asked “Which players without much Senior experience do you see taking the step this season” and replied “Trent Dumont has had a great preperation, and is one of the few players to have no made his senior AFL debut as yet”

Cam Ellis Yolmen – Adelaide – $123,900

Played 1 game as the starting sub in 2014. Came 4th in the Crows SANFL Best and Fairest award with 60 votes, 7 behind the winner Ian Callinan. Physically ready to play AFL football, but still has questions over his ball use, especially by foot. 4th year in the system, it’s now or never for CEY. Walsh says he’s been training with the midfield group.

Andrew Boston – Gold Coast – $124,600

Played late in 2013, but missed most of 2014 with a leg injury.

Jed Anderson – Hawthorn – $141,400

Broke into the Hawks side in 2013, but missed the majority of 2014 with a shoulder injury. Will be in the mix with the Hartung/O’Rourke types you’d think.

Elliott Kavanagh – Essendon – $145,100

3 games and a bunch as senior emergency in 2014. Came 2nd both times in Essendon’s most recent back-to-back 2km time trials behind Patrick Ambrose.

Darcy Lang – Geelong – $159,100

Debuted in Round 13 and ended the year as the senior emergency.

Liam Duggan – West Coast – $172,300

First round draft pick for the Eagles, West Coast Head Coach Adam Simpson says about new recruits Duggan and Lamb “I think they’ve all got the ability to play senior football this year, which is really pleasing. I think you can tell a lot within the first few weeks about how they go about it and their maturity and I’m pleased with all of them. What I’m seeing is the ability to handle situations already that perhaps first-year players don’t normally handle, but it is a longer-term approach so I won’t be throwing them in the deep end. But at the same time if they’re ready to play we’ll play them.”

UPDATED 07/02 – Liam Duggan will be playing for West Coast against the indigenous All-Stars that will be happening on Feb 20th at Medibank Stadium in Leederville. So we’ll get an early preview of what Duggan looks like before the NAB Cup games start the week after.

Anthony Morabito – Fremantle – $191,700

Had a knee scare in late September, but was only a 2-4 week injury. Still on a tailored pre-season training schedule, but a Round 1 chance if the injuries stay away.

UPDATED – 20/01 – More knee surgery for Morabito, going under the knife to repair torn cartilage in his left knee. It’s expected he’ll be out for another month. This may put his Round 1 chances on ice for now.

Billy Hartung – Hawthorn – $195,800

Debuted in Round 7 after being the senior emergency the week before, but was wearing the green vest quite a lot. Hawthorn GM of Football Chris Fagan says “He’s in the mold of Bradley Hill and Isaac Smith, he’s a running machine. We selected him as the sub a few times this year, which is what we did with ‘Hilly’ in his first year but to be honest, he was probably better than he (Hill) was in his first year given the amount of ball he was able to get. He’s not afraid to run and bounce and carry the lines – we think we’ve got some really great runners in our team and he’s going to really add to that arsenal and should emerge even more next year as his body gets stronger and his belief grows that he can play at the level.”

Alex Woodward – Hawthorn – $197,800

Missed all of 2013 with a knee reco and was brought in to the AFL side in Round 18 in 2014. GM of Football Chris Fagan says “He was able to make his debut after two knee recos – he has probably been the most unlucky player at our footy club over the last few years. He earned his debut against the Swans in Round 18 and won the Liston Trophy in the VFL as the fairest and best player so that will give him a lot of confidence. He’s an intense competitor and incredibly brave, so you’d expect that he’ll start to emerge next year and make even more of a contribution for us.”

Jordan De Goey – Collingwood – $202,300

#5 pick for the Pies in 2014. Guess it depends on how quickly the Pies want to blood players and how they go on the injury front. You’d think he’d be a shot early, but they might decide blooding Freeman is enough to begin the year.

Jono O’Rourke – Hawthorn – $206,300

Falls into the same category as Hartung, Anderson and Woodward for the Hawks. Talented, but there’s only 22 spots in a side. He’s a former #2 pick, but I get the impression he’ll be one who gets handed the green vest a few times throughout the year.

UPDATED 11/02 – Hawks general manager of football operations Chris Fagan says “He’s going to have to force his way in because we’re strong in the midfield, but this is his first full pre-season and he hasn’t put a foot wrong. He’s a good learner and has a great attitude.”

Shane Biggs – Western Bulldogs – $209,300

Traded in from Sydney, Western Bulldogs Assistant Coach Steven King says “Shane Biggs is ready to go. He’s a ready made player coming over from a good program.”

Angus Brayshaw – Melbourne – $212,300

#3 pick in the draft, Angus Brayshaw says “For me and all the players who have been drafted to the club, they’ve been really clear about not setting any expectations on us, but also not any limitations either. If we play games they’re not going to put a cap on how many we play. But I think for now the focus has been on getting fit, really learning the game plan and basically just improving because we started a couple of weeks after the main group. We’d all like to play round one, but there’s no expectations at the moment, so I’ll just train hard and work hard and see what happens.”

UPDATE 16/02 – Unfortunate season ending injury to Christian Petracca could see his stocks rise

Aidan Riley – Melbourne – $221,600

9 games last year, but lots as sub. He’s very good at the things he’s good at, but guys like Brayshaw, Petracca and Salam are obviously going to overtake him as players. So the issue becomes will he still get time while they’re coming up, or will they overtake him immediately.

UPDATE 16/02 – Unfortunate season ending injury to Christian Petracca could see his stocks rise


MAYBE LATER ON

UNLIKELY TO PLAY ROUND 1, MAY GET GAMES LATER IN SEASON

Bradley Walsh – Carlton – $102,400

Connor Blakely – Fremantle – $117,300

Damien Cavka – West Coast – $117,300

Liam Dawson – Brisbane – $117,300

Dean Gore – Geelong – $117,300

Cory Gregson – Geelong – $117,300

Jack Hiscox – Sydney – $117,300

Connor Menadue – Richmond – $117,300

Jacob Ballard – Fremantle – $123,900

Josh Cowan -Geelong – $123,900

Joshua Glenn – Gold Coast – $126,400

Will Hams – Essendon – $123,900

George Hewett – Sydney – $123,900

Jayden Hunt – Melbourne – $123,900

Jarrad Jansen – Geelong – $123,900

Harry Marsh – Sydney – $123,900

Nick O’Brien – Essendon – $123,900

Daniel Robinson – Sydney – $123,900

Billy Evans – Brisbane – $127,900

Jack Sinclair – St Kilda – $129,400

Tim Golds – GWS – $134,400

Aaron Vandenberg – Melbourne – $136,400

As always, if you see any names you think should be added or removed or have any news  or information you’d think the community should know about, please let us know in the comments below.

Barron Von Crow

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97 Comments

Tyler · 17/02/2015 at 21:43

Tossing up between Heeney and Cockatoo. Who is more likely to get more playing time early?

    @Rem_Wah · 17/02/2015 at 21:53

    My opinion is Isaac Heeney will. Word is he'll play round one

      pauly walnuts · 17/02/2015 at 22:02

      Agreed on Heeney,if he went in the draft he would be 200k+,should play round 1 but will be very popular with everyones Teams

    @Rem_Wah · 17/02/2015 at 22:07

    Cockatoo is for sure a better POD

      OldOcker · 18/02/2015 at 00:47

      I think you will find that there will be not POD with Cockatoo after NAB CUP. Everybody will have both. Both of them are possibly future guns and stars of the game.

    I N Pieman · 17/02/2015 at 22:22

    Heeney Tyler. Melbourne offered pick 2 for him. Absolute gun. Certain that Sydney will be wanting to blood some youngsters. He’s at the top of the pile.

    Stickman · 17/02/2015 at 22:38

    Would like to think Heeney is a better prospect, but not sure where he fits. I see Cockatoo taking either Christensen or Varcoe's spot on the wing. Maybe Heeney could take Jake Lloyd's spot or a bigger stretch Lewis Jetta's spot, but think an injury needs to occur for Heeney to play.

    YesIdohavebacon · 18/02/2015 at 01:32

    Not sure about Cockatoo's JS as he's competing with Lang Blease Hartman Jansen and Cowan who have all had more pre-seasons. Hopefully he's classy enough to demand a spot…

    Jamie · 22/02/2015 at 19:43

    ROOKIE ALERT | Isaac Heeney has been put on a managed training program after suffering knee tendinitis. The swans believe he won't see NAB Challenge and isn't likely to feature early in the home and away season. ‪#‎supercoach‬

@Rem_Wah · 17/02/2015 at 21:53

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    OldOcker · 18/02/2015 at 00:50

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qwerty · 17/02/2015 at 21:53

Cheers BVC! So hard to choose someone around that 200k mark. So far Im tossing up between Biggs, Cripps and Acres. Is 2 players around that price too much? At the moment Acres is my M6 and Cripps is my M7 but not sure if I should be spending that much money on them.

    Stickman · 17/02/2015 at 22:42

    Not too long ago I had NVB and Acres, but downgraded Acres to Freeman to allow me to upgrade Stevie J to Pendlebury. It all depends if you believe the cash earned by these 200k+ players will make up for the points lost in using the extra cash. But will depend who is named round 1, I guess.

    OldOcker · 18/02/2015 at 00:58

    Hi qwerty,
    Great name, Are you a keyboard warrior, Ha Ha?
    I am very surprised that Jock has not said a thing about ACRES since last year when he gave him such a big wrap. From what I saw of the lad last year he impressed me greatly and currently sits in M6.

    @BarronVonCrow · 18/02/2015 at 12:50

    Thanks, qwerty.

    I currently have Cripps in my side as my M7, but if you have the spare cash to be able to afford 2 guys that cost 200K and you feel comfortable in picking them over a 120K guy, then go for it I say.

Benjo · 17/02/2015 at 22:01

Brilliant article Barron! Considering Newton, Heeney and Freeman on field.
Also, what are people's thoughts on Curtly Hampton? I've heard a lot of hype about him but not too sure why I should jump on? Can anyone convince me? Cheers

    I N Pieman · 17/02/2015 at 22:39

    Benjo. I can’t convince you on Hampton. He’s on my watch list. But so is everyone except Greg Braughton. Injured washing his car. Final straw buddy. Personally I won’t have freeman on the field. Named rnd 1 on the pine. Read about his hammy
    Injuries from last season & you’ll understand why. Cyril 2.0. Whippet who’s constantly in the sick bay.

      OldOcker · 18/02/2015 at 01:11

      Why isn't Broughton on your watch list Itchy? He is on mine but all I will do is watch him. Ha Ha. Just like higgins.

      HIGGINS: Stands for (Hello I Got Good Info No Shaun)

      Jokes aside Freeman: Very doubtful to play this season.

      Sorry: If you like Higgins go for it mate but I have not had him since he was a rookie, Stats tell the story and I very much doubt he can improve on what he has done in the past.,

        I N Pieman · 18/02/2015 at 13:22

        Very nice Ocker. Higgins no thanks.

    Stickman · 17/02/2015 at 22:48

    Agree with you Benjo. Did not tonne up after round 4 last year and has never been consistent. I think Newnes and Ibbotson are safer bets. Sorry, but the only positve I can think off is that GWS have the second easiest draw and the easiest pre-bye round draw. Also would not want to make cash to sideways him to a premo, I think at that price if you don't see him as a keeper to look elsewhere.

    @BarronVonCrow · 18/02/2015 at 12:53

    Thanks Benjo,

    I like Hampton myself, but he got screwed around by injuries a bit last year. Looking him up in the Jock Reynolds magazine he averaged 89 over his 1st 7 games, but then was in and out due to injuries (ankle and shoulder) and couldn't get any consistent form going after that. Big risk, but could be a nice reward too.

@Rem_Wah · 17/02/2015 at 22:13

Who would be the best pick out of:
Dom Sheed, Patrick Cripps and Blake Acres?

    Benjo · 17/02/2015 at 22:15

    If Sheed gets games with WCE without being a sub, he is a lock.

      @Rem_Wah · 17/02/2015 at 22:18

      thanks Benjo, I agree. I guess it kinda depends who can avoid the sub vest.

    Stickman · 17/02/2015 at 22:52

    Not sure how significant but in non-sub affected games last year Sheed averaged 50, cripps 74 and acres 59. So on that logic I would personally pick Cripps.

    @BarronVonCrow · 18/02/2015 at 12:54

    For me it'd go 1. Cripps 2. Acres 3. Sheed.

    Don't forget Christian Salem as an option as well.

OldOcker · 17/02/2015 at 22:32

You are one bloody genius with the Rookie Watches BVC You make research obsolete until NAB CUP.
WRONG: You are to me making research obsolete altogether because I don't have foxtel and totally rely upon your genius to determine how successful I can be this year with cash generation.

Truly appreciate the great effort you put in to every article you put up mate.

Cheers.

    @BarronVonCrow · 18/02/2015 at 12:54

    Cheers, OO. Glad you're getting some use out of them!

Jadyn · 17/02/2015 at 22:46

Sloane or jpk?

    Stickman · 17/02/2015 at 22:55

    Would go with Sloane, I feel Dangerfield is more likely to get tagged, when I think JPK will cop the weekly tag at Sydney.

    dognino · 18/02/2015 at 07:49

    Sloane for consistency, JPK for a higher ceiling

    Redgumwon · 18/02/2015 at 19:35

    Get Sloane, Dangerfield and JPK later on. I read an article in the Herald Sun on fast starters in Supercoach over the first 5 or 6 rounds. Mark Murphy comes out of the barrier faster than a speeding bullet compared those other guys. Use Murphy to trade up to JPK, Sloane or Danger later on.

I N Pieman · 17/02/2015 at 22:48

The rookie articles. My favourites. Brilliant work again Baron. There’s never been a bad article or podcast off here. 40% + of your team is made up of guys who are named round 1 & you know nothing about. Unless your on here. Keep up the great work BVC.

    OldOcker · 18/02/2015 at 00:26

    Totally agree with that Itchy. Brilliant stuff. BVC is a legend in this Community.

    @BarronVonCrow · 18/02/2015 at 12:55

    Cheers, Pieman.

    What do you reckon about Ben Kennedy this year, mate? I got's a repeating theme of slotting him in and out of my fwd line at the moment.

      I N Pieman · 18/02/2015 at 13:28

      Ben Kennedy aye. Forgot he was still on our list lol Think it's worth looking at his role in the NAB. Came to the club with no tank. 3 preseasons & he's a maybe. Mid/Fwd at 261k is awkward.

Scotland · 17/02/2015 at 23:02

Surely vandenberg is a monty for elevation and rd 1 now petracca is out for the season?

    I N Pieman · 17/02/2015 at 23:29

    Got the same feeling myself

    Derek · 17/02/2015 at 23:29

    Lock vandenberg in,!!!

    @BarronVonCrow · 18/02/2015 at 12:55

    Absolutely, you'd think so for sure.

Muddiemoose · 18/02/2015 at 06:36

Is it worth setting up swing sets with rookies now ie putting K.Lambert in your mid or any other duel position player that can play mid into our midfields or should we treet them like our premo’s and put said rookies into the forward line/back line and save our mid spots for mid only players and set up swings via trades during the season?

    General Soreness · 18/02/2015 at 09:51

    Muddie either works fine, the swing sets are not as critical in opening rounds usually. I will be picking the best rookies to fill the position on their chosen line. For argument sakes I if that means K Lambert is a M11 because Caleb Daniel, Jesse Hogan types are ranked ahead of him and are Fwd only then so be it. I expect that with the quality of Mid DPP rookies on offer I will have at least 1 DPP in the mids.

      Muddiemoose · 18/02/2015 at 12:11

      Thanks General that’s the way I was leaning towards but just wanted to see what other would be doing
      Appreciate the feedback mate

Tyler · 18/02/2015 at 07:12

Ok, my first question:
I heard that Westhoff will be playing up the ground more often, supposedly like Jarryd Roughead. Does this mean potionally he could be getting more involved in the game and will get more points?

Second, should I swap out Liberatore (In Patche's Luck of the Draw post he said he may drop in price and would be ideal to upgrade during bye rounds) for a rookie?

And lastly, is van Berlo worth having in my team at m7?

    @BarronVonCrow · 18/02/2015 at 12:59

    Potentially it does mean he'll be more involved Tyler, but you also have to consider the fact that also means he could be used as a situation player as well. So he could spend the last 5 minutes of each quarter playing loose in defence, he could sit deep in the forward line to give Schulz and Ryder a break etc etc. I think he's got tremendous potential though, and I think he could be a nice POD pick up forward while everyone else goes for Lids and Goddard and players like that.

    I wouldn't be gung-ho on Liberatore just from how he's scored previously with Griffen out of the side and then adding Patches luck of the draw on top of that as well. You could replace him with a rookie, but what does the rest of your mid structure look like?

    Reckon M7 is an OK slot for VB, but watch NAB first to see where he lines up for the Crows. Heard he could be playing across half back, but we'll have to wait and see on that one.

    jdt1111 · 18/02/2015 at 15:04

    Heard same and had a look at Westhoff and he rarely tons up against quality.

    2013 v. Swans, Cats x 2 (not a good example, but others), Blues, Saints, Dogs, Suns, Crows, Giants, Demons

    2014 v. Blues x 2, Suns, Pies, Demons x 2, Dogs, Lions

    Given the tough draw up to byes, I'd pass but watch in NAB.

throttlefinger · 18/02/2015 at 07:53

Superb update, Barron! You are a sovereign in the art of rookie prognostication.

I'm feeling Biggs may be the tasty $200K and up mid to jump on. NAB will determine but that's one kid I'll be giving the close look at. Ready to play and dem doggies need some mid help.

    Cezza93 · 18/02/2015 at 11:33

    Where do you reckon Biggs will play throttle? I've got mixed feeling i know he dominated the SEAFL. I can see him running off halfback?

    @BarronVonCrow · 18/02/2015 at 13:01

    Cheers, Throttle. I'm up and down on Biggs myself, don't think i'll end up putting him in my side (didn't like his DE%), but he's young, and didn't play a ton of AFL games, so he's got potential for sure.

General Soreness · 18/02/2015 at 09:46

Barron when people ask what you do when your not playing/researching Supercoach the answer must surely be "there is not a time when I am not playing/researching supercoach", beautiful work which is massively appreciated in cutting down research time for the community. Will be keen to see what West Coast do with a few of their youngsters.

    @BarronVonCrow · 18/02/2015 at 13:07

    Cheers, General.

    My study room wall currently sort of looks like the Supercoach version of this, so it's easier to keep track of all these rookies
    http://i.imgur.com/Pm95fPX.jpg

    Yes, very keen to see how Duggan goes. I was big on him in the draft, like his skills, but the way the vests went with Sheed makes me think twice about giving him a shot in my side.

fuqmah faic · 18/02/2015 at 11:29

Hello community. Just wondering how many rookies should I have on the field?

    @BarronVonCrow · 18/02/2015 at 13:10

    Depends on what strategy you're using. Going Guns 'N Rookies will have you using more rookies than if you went with mid-priced for example.

      fuqmah faic · 18/02/2015 at 17:01

      Ive sort of got a mixed strategy.

      B.smith h.shaw m.jaensch
      J.newnes z.jones n.brown

      J.selwood a.treloar d.prestia
      O.wines d.thomas b.newton
      sbiggs n.freeman

      I.maric nicnat

      R.gray b.delidio d.swan
      T.mitchell t bellchambers p.karnezis

      Thoughts?

Cezza93 · 18/02/2015 at 11:37

How certain is Vanderberg to get games?

    @BarronVonCrow · 18/02/2015 at 13:12

    Probably not for certain at this stage, they did add a few midfielders in guys like Newton and Stretch, as well as having Michie healthy too. I think he could potentially follow Aidan Riley's path, 6-8 games and wearing the sub vest on more than a few occasions.

Scotland · 18/02/2015 at 12:55

Time to activate your insurance policy Roosy.

    I N Pieman · 18/02/2015 at 13:34

    2 actually. Trengrove & Petrecca are LTI's. Cmon Roosy pull Vandenberg off the rookie list. I want him on the ground in round 1. Ball magnet & contested beast.

Trab Pukcip · 18/02/2015 at 13:30

Hey Barron, i'll give you a little tip. Daniel Robinson from Sydney. Gave buddy a bath in the trial camp that was held at coffs harbour a few weeks back. Is very highly thought of by the swans and has been in the system a number of years now! He will be this years Tom Mitchell (from 2 years back) and will get some good game time at some stage!

    vcloophole · 18/02/2015 at 14:37

    Love those little gems Trab. Thanks for sharing!

vcloophole · 18/02/2015 at 13:52

Barron, fine update once again. Thanks for taking the time mate. Makes everyone's life a ton easier!

Question: What is the status of Kane Lambert? Being on the rookie list, can he also be elevated onto the senior list if one of the older players gets placed onto the veterans list? Eg Deledio or Newman (if they qualify). Obviously if a team mate gets a LTI, he can be easily elevated. Was curious how that all works…

    General Soreness · 18/02/2015 at 13:58

    Can only be elevated with retirement or LTI

      vcloophole · 18/02/2015 at 14:01

      Cheers general. One can only hope that the superflog that is T.Vickery gets a really bad season ending in-grown toenail.
      Back to the drawing board (Higginator)…*sigh*

    I N Pieman · 18/02/2015 at 14:43

    No so sure about that. They might have a primary spot free anyway. Will need to find out.

      I N Pieman · 18/02/2015 at 15:53

      Tigers have 39 Primary listed players at the moment. Which means they can elevate a rookie without an LTI. Matt Thomas is on the rookie list. Hopefully Lambert goes past him or runs him over.

    Matt · 18/02/2015 at 16:07

    Richmond are able to select a nominated Rookie prior to the season kicking off. So Lambert could be potentially right go for RD 1 if Dimma sees him as a best 22

      vcloophole · 19/02/2015 at 12:23

      Awesome Matt, thanks for clearing that up!

I N Pieman · 18/02/2015 at 14:24

Non Scoring players for my team post round 1 last season below. Lesson was not knowing enough about the rookies. Won't be happening this year. Cutler to Georgiou was a disaster. And then I brought Cutler back in a few rounds later & then traded him again for bugger all gain for Bews who stunk. What was I smoking last season. Way to many sideways crap trades on rookies. But Lewis Taylor turned out to be handy. Lucky pick cause I knew nothing about him. This is why your research is so valuable Baron. Your saving me trades.
1. Clurey DEF 31
2. Cutler DEF 0
3. Dunstan MID 100
4. Lemmens MID 37
5. King RUC 0
6. Currie RUC 0
7. McDonough FWD 45
8. Taylor FWD 6

    vcloophole · 18/02/2015 at 14:53

    Georgiou and Bews taught me BIG lessons last year Pieman [curls up into the foetal position in the corner and rocks back'n'forth, shuddering]. Never again will square pegs attempt to be smashed into round holes.

      I N Pieman · 18/02/2015 at 15:02

      Spent many hours in the bottom of the shower trying to scrub the dirt off from those to 2 VC. Flat out flaming turds. Had the Bews conversation with the General a few times. Classic example of what the Cats do with Rookies. And as for Georgiou well I wish I was holding the door when they delisted him. Would have kicked him on the way out. PO

medadsson · 18/02/2015 at 14:45

Murray Newman (WCE rookie) seems most likely to be elevated given an LTI or retirement i.e. Beau Waters. If so, he could be a goer.

    I N Pieman · 18/02/2015 at 15:07

    For some reason I have extreme reluctance to pick WC players that aren't certain best 22. Because the only certainty is uncertainty in that place. Same with Freo.

      medadsson · 18/02/2015 at 15:23

      As a Freo supporter, I must agree with you re Fremantle. I think it's the Ross Factor. I too have trouble picking WCE players but for entirely different reasons 🙂 … actually, just read Newman has had injury interrupted pre-season so not a good call on my behalf. Cheers.

        I N Pieman · 18/02/2015 at 15:26

        Never mind with Newman. You'd be a good bloke to ask if Clancee Pearce is best 22? tasty price & can score.

          medadsson · 18/02/2015 at 16:10

          Barring injury, just cant see a lot of opportunity for Clancee. Seemed to be out of favour, selection wise, last year. With Sutcliffe seemingly being first choice due to his running capacity and Lachie Neale starting to exert influence in mid field I just can't see how Clancee can get back and if he does, play the same role he did in 2012.

            I N Pieman · 18/02/2015 at 16:22

            Very good points you raise. These defenders are giving me the sh#ts. I'm going to start replacing them with rubber plants soon.

              Dools · 18/02/2015 at 18:47

              Rubber plants ….That's brilliant INP …I have a Waxy Leaf Defensive Plan which does not involve Turnips

Plowdogg · 18/02/2015 at 18:06

Great work again BVC! Any news on how Fuller is tracking for the doggies? Thinking surely mature age players should be getting a look in at woofland!

George · 18/02/2015 at 18:23

What do people think about Toby Greene?? Soft start to the season plus a round 13 bye, and his finish to last year was very strong!
Also, what do people think about Docherty and Rohan in defence, I'm thinking of starting them as some solid defensive PODs.

    Phil · 18/02/2015 at 19:00

    Not sure if they'd be huge PODs, I'm seeing Rohan in a few sides and Docherty is so many that I've now placed him on my watchlist.

      qwerty · 18/02/2015 at 20:11

      I personally like the look of Docherty. Coming into his third year, running of half back, with rumours of midfield time… he looks the goods. Defiantly on my watchlist.

Jacob · 18/02/2015 at 18:44

IS Ahmed Saad a good option??

    Phil · 18/02/2015 at 18:59

    If it was last year I'd say yes, but not with the amount of options we have down there this year

Jye · 18/02/2015 at 18:49

Hey community! I've made a league that needs filling, all are welcome! 🙂 643564

    Gold Rush · 18/02/2015 at 19:16

    In Jye, thanks

T-MAC · 18/02/2015 at 19:25

Thoughts on Toby Greene, unlikely to get a tag and can go big?

    T-MAC · 18/02/2015 at 19:26

    Just realised someone asked that above oops

T-MAC · 18/02/2015 at 19:30

Beau Waters will officially retire tomorrow

Tyler · 18/02/2015 at 20:18

Hey all, my league needs filling, anyone and everyone welcome to join. 712713
Thanks in advance

Tjd · 18/02/2015 at 21:01

Currently got Cooke and Salem in my team thoughts?

Tjd · 18/02/2015 at 21:02

Got Cloke for 390,000 in my team and c Salem over hogan thoughts??

    Scotland · 18/02/2015 at 23:25

    Cloke is a joke bullseye is a must

      Scotland · 18/02/2015 at 23:40

      Supercoaches and melb supporters will rejoice when bullseye hits the target of the out stretched mitts of “the hulk” in the forward line. Might b the reason to hang around during snow season.

Tom · 18/02/2015 at 21:07

Can someone who tweets please inform Higgo that he has his pricing formula wrong. The formula for price changes is:

New Price = Old Price + 0.443 x (Current Score – Breakeven)

Breakeven = (3 x Old Price)/5.04 – (Score from Last Week + Score from Two Weeks Ago)

Higgo is using 5.4 rather than 5.04 which is the preseason pricing "magic" number, this reverts to 5.04 during the season (and results in all existing players being initially overpriced by 8%) to account for the increase in price for rookies while maintaining the total salary for the competition as a constant.

For example, Daniel Rich if he averages 90 with a starting price of $348k will only reach a price of $444k by the round 11 bye. Higgo is quoting $470k, a small but significant difference.

    Gold Rush · 18/02/2015 at 21:25

    Good to see Tom that I was not the only one to pick that up. LOL But I did not want to say anything as Higgo's Mum would of got very upset about her son not double checking formula's. She might of considered him a failure!!!

      Tom · 18/02/2015 at 21:35

      Haha, nice.
      I feel that the key bit of information here that not widely known is that all existing players are priced 8% above their average from the previous year (excluding injury discounts). This means that so-called "underpriced" players are not the value they seem as they have to increase their average 8% just to breakeven price-wise. This is the reason most players will lose value throughout the year even if they maintain or even increase their previous average. It is also the reason why rookies are a better cash generation tool all things being equal

pauly walnuts · 18/02/2015 at 21:44

Hey all,thoughts on A.Woodward as a M7 from the Hawks just under 200k,played 2 AFL games late last year and won the Liston Medal ? Might be a better proposition than some of the high priced rooks ?

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