869 Comments

jockreynolds · 04/02/2015 at 20:59
Gday there David – solid start there mate. Careful – just keep your ear to the ground on Ryan Griffen. There is some noise that his back is stuffed. Could just be noise though.

Jimmy · 04/02/2015 at 21:16
Jock How come I can't see your team?

Sean · 04/02/2015 at 21:35
I cant seem to find Jocks team as well

Jai · 04/02/2015 at 21:38
Gday lads – Jock isn't posting his team on this post – its for us to show ours for some helpful community feedback! cheers

Trab Pukcip · 05/02/2015 at 10:47
Hi David, very light in the mids there mate with too many $$ spent in defence! A lot of risk picks there in the mids, griffin, swallow, stevens. Usually worth only going 1 risk in that crucial line! Just my opinion 🙂

Benjo · 04/02/2015 at 21:02
Def: Very nice. Personally not going Hibberd this year when you can get the same value for 100k less in Ibbotson or someone,
Mid: Like the inclusion of Wines. Could have a breakout year but his finish has me worried. Rookies look good thus far.
Rucks: Great.
Forwards: Love the forwards, particularly like the POD in Bartel. Not sure if Caleb will get early games but if so he is a lock.
Overall nice team

vinnymac · 05/02/2015 at 03:06
Very good balance overall, all popular picks but I’m liking the POD selections Bartel and Wines.

chrisflavel · 05/02/2015 at 10:01
Best side I've seen on here.

BomberSam · 05/02/2015 at 11:33
Great team. 18 of your players are in my squad too! Remember that Ablett, Pendles and Fyfe all have the round 12 bye. Also Laverde and Krakouer can both be forwards and are taking up two of your precious midfield positions. Food for thought, but it's not necessarily a bad thing.

Ash · 10/02/2015 at 17:28
Waters is extremely popular but everyone needs to heed Adam Simpsons words, he is still having issues with his shoulder, Simmo actually mentioned he is worried about him being able to pick up his kids in the future and there is no guarantee he will play.

jockreynolds · 04/02/2015 at 21:00
Nice Benj – agree with you mate. A solid starting crack, but would like to see you reduce the likes of Docherty, Adams, Salem down to just the one or two of that kind of option.

Benjo · 04/02/2015 at 21:04
Thanks Jock! Yeah I agree with you mate. Too many mid pricers. Thank god for this website.

throttlefinger · 04/02/2015 at 22:33
Strong side, Benjo. Love the double Tiger attack in fwd line. Agree with Jock, but also in your forward line. Swan/Titch/Adams, I'd try to move Adams down to a rook and upgrade Titch to a prem. Too many "ifs" in that trio.
Think you're right picking either Griffin or Nakervis as your R3. One of those you will need with the Kreuzeberger duo.
Nice!

Benjo · 04/02/2015 at 23:01
Thanks Throttle! Agree with you 100%!

Corvus · 05/02/2015 at 02:31
Hey Benjo, some solid thinking there mate, however you will have to re-jig your structure to allow for just the one ruck on the bench and an extra mid for this season.
Like most of your premo locks, and WHERE you have thrown the cash around… ie mids, and mids selected as forwards. Also thinking of going light on spending in def initially and investing once someone puts there hand up in season proper. Just too risky guessing who warrants the cash down back atm imo.

General Soreness · 05/02/2015 at 10:07
Benjo you have last years structure mate with 2 ruck bench and 2 mid bench. There is only one ruck bench and now 3 mid bench this year. On the team front, solid mate, nothing to add to what has already been said.

jdOzman · 08/02/2015 at 22:52
Benjo,
Looks pretty solid mate, but you have 4 rucks and only 10 mids (last years format).

Kev · 04/02/2015 at 22:24
Def, mid, rucks all look solid MM. Forwards look very light with Lids being your only real premium. Consistency is the biggest worry for Bennell, I'd like to see him have a solid season under his belt before I outlay 500k+ for him. Clark has already stuffed his calf and I think that's a sign of things to come. Better rookies will present themselves

Muddiemoose · 04/02/2015 at 22:40
Thanks Kev appreciate the feedback!
I like your point about Bennell and going to swap him out now

Muddiemoose · 04/02/2015 at 22:52
Took Shaw out for hibbard to free some cash and replaced Bennell with Goddard both Essendon boys I know but looked the best options with the cash I was willing to spend

Baller · 07/02/2015 at 14:14
Kev, you must have no idea. That defence is weak. You've criticised his forwards, but they easily are stronger than the defence.
FWD – Delidio is a must have, Bennell huge ceiling but is often injured, Swan potential but who knows if he'll ever get back to his best (oldest Pie on the list), Mitchell potential but hasn't broken into the senior team consistently, Clark injured, Hogan unproven, Lav/Daniel unproven. Lots of doubts there – I agree Kev, but also lots of potential if it comes off.
But DEF – Shaw solid but Delidio will outscore, Harbrow inconsistent and are his good scores as good as others there(?), Newns (who?), Waters didn't play in 2014, Edwards/Goddard/Rainbow(?)/McKenzie – unproven, who knows if they'll get games.

Benjo · 07/02/2015 at 19:52
Let's see your team mate because IMO this is a solid team. You must be crazy to not have Waters and Newnes.

Seaford Scouse · 09/02/2015 at 17:32
I reckon Kev nailed it Baller. And tbh defence is the weakest link this year with $ to be saved from that line and pumped into the higher scoring areas as per your comment re: Lids. Wait and see who comes good first and jump on is how I’ll be approaching it, I certainly won’t be paying over 500k for anyone in that line to start with.

t_mitch · 10/02/2015 at 03:22
baller has obviosly won supercoach every year since its induction to be making comments like that, i also agree with most of what kev has said btw, only i will be sticking with bennell as i think rocket will bring him up a gear and the consistancy will start 105 avg and a keeper

Kev · 04/02/2015 at 22:26
Jock hasn't posted his team, Sully. The intro sentence was merely highlighting the separate v1 rate my team thread

Kev · 04/02/2015 at 22:29
Seedsman will miss first few rounds with hip surgery http://www.collingwoodfc.com.au/news/2014-01-28/s…
Looks solid otherwise. Keep an eye on Cockatoo and Blease for best 22 spots. Right noises coming out of the cats for Cockatoo but Blease could be in and out of the team

Michael · 07/02/2015 at 23:27
Mate that article on Seedsman is about the 2014 season, hip surgery was in 2014

Chris Lever · 06/02/2015 at 19:49
Sounds like a pretty shit team mate hehe

Kev · 04/02/2015 at 22:31
If your gonna go with Kruze/Luey combo in the ruck you need cover IMO

vcloophole · 05/02/2015 at 15:30
Yep good point Kev.
Ryder or Bellchambers in your forward line would give you that DPP cover you need old mate

Kev · 04/02/2015 at 22:32
A lot of cash left over, Matt. Maybe look at upgrading Clark or Steven to a more reliable option

Nev · 09/02/2015 at 17:14
upgrade a back to premo like Birch

vinnymac · 05/02/2015 at 03:17
Perhaps find a cheaper alternative to B.Smith and use that extra cash to upgrade one of your fwd rookies to a premium?

vcloophole · 05/02/2015 at 15:33
Like Blueprime above ^^^^ you haven't got any ruck bench cover. Cox's sole purpose is to provide the cheapest DPP link available to the forward line. He wont play unless there is catastrophic injury to Collingwoods ruck stocks.
I would be on Andrew Swallow or Griifen over Libba mate. Just my 2 cents 🙂

Anthony · 05/02/2015 at 15:46
Set and forget rucks this yr any money spent on R3 is wasted, Griff dodgy back, not a fan of swallow
However I feel light up fwd

vcloophole · 05/02/2015 at 16:22
"Set and forget rucks this yr any money spent on R3 is wasted"…wow, well that makes perfect sense if you choose not to have DPP ruck cover. Copping doughnuts needlessly in the ruck when your 'set and forget' starters invariably miss the odd week here-and-there is an 'interesting' new SC strategy mate.

Seaford Scouse · 08/02/2015 at 19:00
Maybe look at Martin, Crisp or Mitchell as upgrades in your fwd line Anthony.

Stickman · 05/02/2015 at 22:16
Quite enjoy the look of the team. Great POD in Sidebottom. Though I don't agree with Rampe did not tonne up after round 7. I think Paul Seedsman is a better alternative and this would allow you to upgrade Guthrie to a cheap Joey Montagna.

Nathan · 05/02/2015 at 22:33
Thanks for the feedback

Stickman · 05/02/2015 at 23:51
All good mate. That's what the community is for, but remember the final decision is yours. Go with your gut.

Jake · 04/02/2015 at 21:26
Will Biggs play?

throttlefinger · 04/02/2015 at 21:32
May or may not, Jake. At that price, easy to move up or down if he doesn't.

Canny the Manny · 04/02/2015 at 22:03
I have Dane Beams also. 120+ Year I reckon. Similar backline structure to myself with the 2 premos, 2 midpricers and 2 rookies. Love the forward line. Nice team coming along here Throts, just out of interest, where did you sit in the rankings at the end of last year Mate?

throttlefinger · 04/02/2015 at 22:17
Hey Canny! In the back of the pack. Made a bunch of rash decisions and impulsive trades. My impatient side got the best of me and didn't back my players. 2nd year blues (mixed with a large dollop of stupidity). More importantly, didn't lean on the community. Live and learn.
Big fan of Beams. Like Sloane as well. But think Beams with a new team and strong midfield will propel him into the top 5 mids.
How did you do last season?

Canny the Manny · 04/02/2015 at 22:37
Hahaha, sounds all too familiar!
I've just come off one of my more successful years, finally learning the right balance in structure (guns and rookies all the way) which got me to the borderline 5000th mark. After a season low of 1800 points scored in my final round due to loss of half my bloody team to injury, I plummeted close to 2000 positions after the last round alone! Of course blowing all my trades with 2 rounds to go, but as you said; Live and Learn!
If you're in need of a cheap backline option before round 1, jump on Paul Seedsman of Collingwood who's priced at approx 360k. he has serious potential (not going to say Brownlow potential just yet but we'll wait and see!). I've been waiting for him to come good for a couple of years now and I reckon this is his year. Should play a rebounding defender type in the absence of Harry Lumumba which will be supercoach gold. Watch how he goes in the NAB.

throttlefinger · 04/02/2015 at 22:41
Ha! Seedsman is on my D3 watchlist. Leaning toward Hampton but if starting rooks are a concern, may make Seeds my D4 and Waters my D5. Don't think that will be the case but like everything…good to plan.

Kev · 04/02/2015 at 22:44
Hard to poke holes in that TF! Great effort mate. Love the Hampton selection. Really liked what I read about him in the mag.
The risks are obvious with Luey and for his sake I hope he can stay on the park. Scored 96 in the one match he played in tandem with Stef Martin so I don't think that will be as much of a thing to worry about as people are suggesting. Just can't get past his injury history though…

throttlefinger · 04/02/2015 at 22:49
Thanks Kev. Not fully formed but structures are starting to firm up.
Agree about Luey. Actually would prefer to put Nicholls in the R2 spot. If he looks like R1 for GCS, may move Smurph to Wines to make it happen.
How's your squad coming along?

skindog · 04/02/2015 at 23:12
Hey Throtts, was going Nichols on your recommendation, but cant stop looking at Hampton!!! price vs games vs av, looks promisihg??? yhought it might be a POD,,, ooops beeeeer time

throttlefinger · 04/02/2015 at 23:44
Still leaning Nichols. Don't have $ for him in this iteration, but have another where he works (Wines for Smurph).

lostlarrikin · 04/02/2015 at 23:21
Pretty solid TF.
Any news on where Kelly will play this yr? Is he one of ur gut selections?
Hampton bold, but shouldn't go backwards.
Enviable fwd line, tre sweet mate.

throttlefinger · 04/02/2015 at 23:43
No news on Kelly. Hope is he reprises half back role. If see signs of that in NAB, will stick. If not will go up to Enright or down to Newnes. He's a bit of gut and bit of POD tweener between mainstays Enright and flavor of month Newnes.
Diggin Hampton. On the uptick and with Patfull will give him more freedom to do what he does best. See 85 average ahoy.
How's your boys looking?

Foxymop · 05/02/2015 at 00:32
Interesting defensive strategy. Waters as high as D4 worries me
Compensated by your 6 mids, and I like the pick of Biggs – thinking of going there myself. Griff back concerns surfacing out of GWS. Repalce with a POD ? Hannebery was my swap
For both our sakes I hope Leuandhamandeggegburger plays (and well), but I'm toying with the extra $$ for Goldy
Standard 4 gun approach in the forwards
Good luck

throttlefinger · 05/02/2015 at 00:56
Hey Foxy.
Yeah, I'm toying with the extra money for Nichols instead of Luey. Depends on NAB play and if he's GCS's #1. But if he can dupe season 1 form, be a steal.
Griff is a wait and see. Did pretty damn good at the end of last season if his back was an issue. See what's what during NAB.
Yeah, the thinking is having mids/fwds dialed in so I could take some chances in the back line, which has, by far, the least sure-fires players in the bunch. If Waters is healthy, he'll be worth it. Rate him higher than Suckling and he's cheaper than last year's most popular midpricers. Also, hope is being employed that there will be 2-3 rooks who will get nice and fatty and be ready to cull by R11.
Tried to give myself some flexibility in case things don't work out the way I hope for the rookie crop. But sure I won't be the only one affected if the R1 rooks are slim pickings.
Thanks for your comments, Foxy!

Sarah · 05/02/2015 at 08:32
Hey Throtts!
Good looking team there mate. You've put Hampton on my radar again. I had a brief look at him last year before deciding against him. Has been on a steady increase over his 3 years and probably would've increased more if not for the injury in round 12. Hmmm, interesting!! Love the Dusty pick, also thinking of picking him over Deledio if the midfield move is proven correct. Watch Waters closely in the NAB, if he's not right you may need to strengthen your backline a little.
Loving the Beams, Smurph and Danger combo!! Watch out for Griffins back.
That's all I've got for you today! Overall, love your team!

throttlefinger · 05/02/2015 at 08:50
Hey Sarah, how's it going? Thanks for giving this the once over.
Griffs is definitely a wait and see. And may decide to drop him for Swallow so I can change Luey for Nicholls. All depends on NAB play. Waters is definitely a concern yet I rate as good if not better than Suckling who was rave last year and was much more expensive. If he looks good, he's in. If not, will either try to get Seedsman or hope that there is a strong $200-150K player to take.
But like you, awaiting to see this rookie crop to see if I can stick to my structures.

vcloophole · 05/02/2015 at 16:48
Wow Throtts, you have so many POD's, and it's difficult to argue with any of them! Very ballsy side my man, I like it!
What's your backup plan if Floggard and Twanga (Hibberd) are rubbed out for the early part of the year? Like-for-like to keep your structure?

throttlefinger · 05/02/2015 at 21:26
Hey Vcloophole!
Have a backup plan for that: Floggard = Bartel. Hibberd = Hodge or Enright.
Really like this structure but really relies on there being 2 solid R1 playing rooks for back and front lines. (don't think mids will be a problem). Tried to make the PODs less of a risk and more those who I feel are on the uptick. Hampton and Waters are the biggest risks, yet am comfortable with their form and potential to average more than they are priced at now. Shall see, shall see.
How's your squad coming?

Seaford Scouse · 08/02/2015 at 19:13
I think Goddard was traded after the saga guys so he should be safe, still an interesting dilemma though if the bulk of the 1sts are out.

Danners16 · 04/02/2015 at 22:04
Hey Matt, nice team although, having three elite premiums out on the same round maybe be a problem, also taking a punt with two rookie listed players on the forward bench, otherwise a nice team for now

Daniel P · 04/02/2015 at 21:14
With 150k in the kitty

Kev · 04/02/2015 at 22:47
Don't reckon Clurey will see much more footy once Trengove is fit again. See above re: Clark. Done his calf in training which will limit his pre season

Danners16 · 04/02/2015 at 22:20
Nice team, I doubt Henderson is going to get back to his form from a couple seasons ago. 3 elite premiums with the round 12 bye could be a problem. Otherwise good team

ASADEN · 06/02/2015 at 15:01
whos your captain or vice you gotta have atleast one or two of the top five players. ryder will have a rough start wont be no1 ruck and new ruck rules will hurt him. better options than hogan, unless hes kicking six a game he wont score too highly. BIG marker small possession getter… cant see harvey playing as good as last year i think this is his year to decline. and i dunno what the fuss is about krakouer not sure where he will fit in the team tbh, yeah he got picked up but untill i hear hes getting game time i wont touch.

Kev · 04/02/2015 at 22:48
Ask again after the nab cup

Apocalypse · 04/02/2015 at 21:26
??THOUGHTS??

Donavan · 04/02/2015 at 23:46
Strong defense, mids & forwards.
Concerned about the reliance on Bellchambers (unable to string games together in prior seasons) with no back-up.

Josh's Apocalypse · 11/02/2015 at 13:33
Thanks for your thoughts mate, any idea who is most likely to play out of the rookie rucks? Thinking of Lobb atm from GWS, only needs to string 5-6 games together and be upgraded.

Josh's Apocalypse · 11/02/2015 at 13:33
Krezuer a better option?

throttlefinger · 04/02/2015 at 23:58
Very robust squad, Jstorm.
Think you have nice coverage everywhere. If I were begin nitpicky, think you're going a bit heavy on the midpricers in the forward line. Titch and Bellchambers are double risk of the same coin. Injury prone. Would take a chance on one not both. Could use savings by downgrading BC to Clark or R1 rook to replace Cox with a rook R3 who will get time this season (Nankervis, Griffin or Wright).
Really dig the Jelwood-Wines-Swallow combo. Many won't have Jelwood AND Wines to start so that could work in your favor. Again, very nice team.

@jstorm311 · 05/02/2015 at 08:10
Only tentative with Forward line – will confirm it after NAB Cup & whether or not Mitchell is in the frame with the Mighty Swans early this year. Still may go with Gray as F1, but may see a bit of Buffalo Curve early.
To me, output is relatively more importand than price, ie, i think of the extra bit of purchase price as insurance for consistent high scorers, against going cheaper for inconsistent scores and game time.
May even change Swallow for Crouch yet – lots of thoughts in the works……

throttlefinger · 05/02/2015 at 00:14
Diggin what you're shooting for, RJ.
Think one would be nitpicky if to have issues with your back line. Shaw is not a fav of most but with Patfull could return him to his 100+ ave days. Would suggest coming up with a backup structure/plan if there are quality rook defenders for R1. Could help strengthen another line.
Bellchambers is a risk yet can understand if he looks good in NAB. Where you're exposed is no ruck backup. Unless the footy gods reign unholy war on the Pies' ruck side, Cox won't see any ball this season. Take some of that loot and get Nankervis or Wright in there. Or another ruck who played well during NAB and might have a shot of playing in the first 12 rounds.
Forward line is pretty audacious, RJ. Like Bennell yet don't think he's F1 material. F2 maybe. F3 sure. Essentially your F1-F4 are all PODs with no established "money" players (e.g. Goddard, Dusty, Lids, Boomer). Swan is a fallen so less of a chance. Ziebell the consistent form hasn't been displayed yet. And Titch, well, he is injury-prone. Just too much risk, my man.
Think you can limit the break out players around and use that 85K to give your team a little less risk and much more proven players.

eddievukovic · 05/02/2015 at 10:28
Thanks mate. The forward line is my most troubling line. As it's a first draft I can still see a fair bit of evolution. I get what you're saying.
I originally had Goddard and Lids in the team but have a feeling they'll drop in price and will be aiming to pick them up later. I've since ditched Ziebell for S. Motlop and Titch for M. Walters (both of who had injury affected years last year) and have upgraded Cox to Wright. Still have $40k left so will wait and see what the NAB cup brings (plus injuries) before I refine it again.
I'm pretty happy with the mids as I see Wines, Steven and Lewis all improving on their 2014 averages and you have to make a call on either Pendles or Rocky. Frankly, I see Rocky dropping a wee bit so would hope to upgrade to him at some point.
As for Shaw, I'm not 100% on him yet and will re-examine it again once I have a firmer grasp on the quality rookies who will be playing. After all, they do have a tendency to make or break your plans.
Thanks for the advice!

throttlefinger · 05/02/2015 at 10:42
No problem, my man. As you said, the quality of rooks will help solidify or scrap our preseason plans. Forgot to say your mids are strong. Agree with Rocky. Gonna pick him up before the byes…I hope.
Noticed your surname. You part Serb? 1/2 myself.

eddievukovic · 05/02/2015 at 10:46
Yeah cheers. I've been thinking about it and part of me so much wants to put Rioli in that team. I know he's a massive risk but goddamn, if he gets those hammies right, he could be a machine. Plus a part of the experience is to root for players you love to watch. I've also since switched Shaw out for Gibson. With Frawley there I can see Gibson being released a fair bit.
Croat. Both parents. Missus is 1/2 Serb 1?2 Maco. All the same really.
Have you posted your team up?

throttlefinger · 05/02/2015 at 21:34
Yeah, it's about 5-6 posts up.
Rioli and the biggest "if" in SC. Always have considered him yet never had the plums to put him in. Usually my gut has been proven correct. 4 rounds of brilliance with the inevitable injury popping up shortly after.

Sarah · 05/02/2015 at 08:40
While the midfield looks amazing! You'll never make enough money to upgrade your backline.

Philby · 10/02/2015 at 11:06
Agree with Sarah – rookie midfielders who flourish are the guts of cash generation and the ability to upgrade. You are 2-3 premiums too heavy in the midfield.- downgrade and spend a little more cash on the back line

Danners16 · 04/02/2015 at 22:36
Nice team, I don't really think you would need a premium midfield swing in Deledio in your midfield. Your 3 best premiums in your midfield have the bye on the same round with may lead to problems. Watson may be the victim, maybe look at someone with the round 11 bye so you have a good captain in each of the bye weeks. Risky going in with Higgins and Ibbotson, but risk could lead to reward.

@LekBlog · 05/02/2015 at 17:39
Wingard hurt himself the other day so a no from me. I like Tex though. As for blokes in your team I really like the Libba pick!

Danners16 · 04/02/2015 at 22:27
Hey Tom, I reckon bringing in Swallow probably would be a great idea as you already have 4 premiums in your midfield with the round 12 bye. They are all good options but at least two need to go if you want to contend for the title. Every where else looks good to go

Tom S · 05/02/2015 at 17:32
Cheers for the feedback Danners!

Donavan · 04/02/2015 at 23:22
I would downgrade T.Mitchell and upgrade a mid rookie.
Otherwise really good team, particularly like inclusion of Hannerbury as a POD.

Donavan · 04/02/2015 at 23:19
Not sure about B.Goodes, Rich (and how he fits in the new look Bris midfield), and Gray (too expensive, surey cant have a better year than in 2014).
I would choose 2 rucks, and a cheap 3rd ruck option to start.
So I would downgrade Gray & 3rd ruck, and upgrade Goodes & Rich (or a mid rookie).
Otherwise solid team.

Andrew · 05/02/2015 at 10:40
Cheers donavan, i wasnt sure about goodes either just couldn’t decide on anyone else, as for rich just thought I’d give him a look n see how he goes, as for gray well im a power supporter and think he will only get better and if he doesn’t it’s going to bite me in the arse but for a player like that im willing to give it a shot. Will look at the ruck set up, thanks for the feedback

Donavan · 04/02/2015 at 23:15
Probably the most balanced team I have seen yet in terms of Premo's, Mid-pricers & Rookies.
I like the inclusion of Savage, but have my doubts around T.Mitchell.

Brendan · 05/02/2015 at 19:10
Cheers Donavan for the feedback and yeah i will have to watch Sydney carefully during the NAB Cup to see how T Mitchell will fit into the team to make sure he will get consistent game time and if he has the potenial to break out.

Donavan · 04/02/2015 at 23:10
Good team, but yes, too much money in the 3rd ruck.
Like the inclusions of Lewis & Wines in the mids, H.Taylor in defense, and Menzel in the forwards.
I would downgrade R3, and upgrade either Cripps or a mid rookie.

Westy · 05/02/2015 at 06:24
Thanks Donavan

T-MAC · 05/02/2015 at 16:15
Not sure why you would be picking Menzel when he isn't on the park yet.

Westy · 06/02/2015 at 23:16
Good point T-MAC. I hadn't looked that closely at his progress, so hadn't realised that. Thanks for the update.

Donavan · 04/02/2015 at 23:06
Nice team.
Tom Mitchell is highly priced, for a guy that has been given enough opportuntity to warrant selection in my opinion. Hopes he gets opoortunities in 2015, but also could see him as a massive tease.

Slaternator · 05/02/2015 at 10:49
Love the Zaharakis selection. Great POD and by all reports having a very good preseason. Can see him averaging 100-105.

Patch · 05/02/2015 at 13:09
Loving the look of that, Troppo. Not sure about Zaharakis though, he may average 100, but I don't think he'll make the top 15 mids, or even 20. Wines going to explode in my opinion.
Also unsure about backs, but I can't offer much better at this stage.

Donavan · 04/02/2015 at 23:03
Great team, did it come-in under budget?
Only questions are Brown in defense (doesnt dispose of the ball enough), Bellchambers (doesnt play enough games).

Jadyn · 05/02/2015 at 08:35
Yeah 14.6k remaining, and I’m also not sure about brown, I’ll see which rookies play and put them on field. Bellchambers will get more games with Ryder gone won’t he?

Dools · 05/02/2015 at 16:42
Ding Dong is an injury waiting to happen buddy I m hearing stuff from the west regarding Lycette and also a new kid in town on the ruc line but my POD is not starting Bellchambers Jayden

Donavan · 04/02/2015 at 23:01
Very Good Team, only a couple of question marks.
Patrick Cripps is an expensive bench warmer.
Robbie Gray – at a high starting price, may be better waiting for that price to drop, then bring him in, used cash elsewhere in forwardline.
Bellchambers – Doesnt play enough games each year, injury prone, but with Ryder gone, maybe more reason to get himself right.

TheGavatron · 04/02/2015 at 23:18
Thanks for your thoughts Donavan, I really appreciate them. In response, I chose Bellchambers for the exact reason you mentioned. With Ryder gone, someone needs to fill the void, and I reckon Bellchambers is way more likely to do that than Giles. Cripps won't necessarily be a bench-warmer for me, he gives me some coverage for if Heeney or Boekhorst either don't play or cop the green vest. And I agree that Gray has a little risk, but I'd rather not go with a tall like Ryder or Franklin and I'm worried about Deledio spending too much time up forward and Boomer Harvey's age (it has to catch up with him some time). So that leaves Gray as the best value left.

Donavan · 04/02/2015 at 23:30
No problem, understand your reasoning.
Still plenty of time to re-think, particularly on Gray, I would start Franklin, yes his tall, and a key forward, but his 2nd half of 2014 was sensational, and he gets possesions near the wing frequently on bigger grounds, and at the SCG should be just about unstoppable.

TheGavatron · 04/02/2015 at 23:35
Yeah, I hear you. Despite the fact that I don't want to pick a premium tall in my forward line, I am still tempted by Franklin. That being said, Gray's worst tends to be far better than Buddy's worst, which gives Gray the edge right now. But that could easily all change before Round 1.

Donavan · 04/02/2015 at 22:56
Good team, but I would be nervous relying on 3 on ground rookies in the mid-field come round 1.
High -risk, high reward stuff.
Also Deledio & Dusty in the forward line?, but love the inclusion of Kommer.

Donavan · 04/02/2015 at 22:47
Strong midfield & Forward-line.
Bit concerned about Bellchambers as 2nd ruck.
Like the defense, except Rohan (not sure Id trust him).

Fell At Ten · 05/02/2015 at 13:05
Yeah, I figured Rohan was going to get more opportunity with Malceski gone. Disappointed when I heard that Sydney are now looking at Jetta to fill the void. Will reshuffle before rd1.

lostlarrikin · 04/02/2015 at 23:15
Defence is way sketchy [email protected]
Can't really argue with the rest, as I'm running a 7/4 mid atm too.
I reckon Walters will have a ripper this yr, in my team

Fell At Ten · 05/02/2015 at 13:08
I hope he does. Since there are no decent premium defenders this year, I’m running the strategy to load my Mid & Fwd with one extra premo each & have all low/mid break out players in defence. Risky, but until I see NAB games I don’t see any other choice.

yurkins · 05/02/2015 at 00:31
hey matt.. im a bit worried you have too many mid priced players esp in defence IMHO

yurkins · 05/02/2015 at 00:36
big bell is a solid pick this year. he had ankle injury in 2014 but fully fit now.
no ryder and
giles unlikely to muster enough force for TBC to get pushed out of side.
maybe go on a limb and put kruser in for luey for dpp

ando · 13/02/2015 at 19:06
10 and 11 a bit suspect to me. Pref wells and swallow

ando · 13/02/2015 at 19:08
Very solid otherwise. Like the ruck dpp setup. But don’t like Ryder, just a pref.

Lewy1243 · 15/02/2015 at 16:00
Buddy is injured from what ive heard and wont play indigenous round

lostlarrikin · 04/02/2015 at 23:11
U got it all hanging out there DL.
Hoff, Daisy, Eli, Jones – super bold.
Like the Vlastuin and Century Fox selections, predicting decent improvement from both.
Membrey in and out of my team atm, if he gets a rnd 1 call then I might roll the dice.

yurkins · 05/02/2015 at 00:39
great POD side

lostlarrikin · 04/02/2015 at 23:00
Yeah plenty of pods for sure Danners. Buckets of risk.
Many will question the lack of Pendles, me included.
I still see him being a top 10 mid by yr end, so u need him at some point.
I can't see the value in Ellis, don't think he has the game to be a premo.
Do like ur ruck structure, something I'm still toying with but want to see how the Bombers use TBC and Giles before I commit.

throttlefinger · 04/02/2015 at 23:05
Like the plums but think it's a touch too POD heavy, Danners. Pendles naturally. Love the risks on the FWD line but you may want to have a backup plan if BC doesn't look worthy. (Mayne would be a safer risk, although no ruck backup…but you could go Smith to Ryder).
Shane Edwards is an inspired call. Risky but could be something there.

Danners16 · 05/02/2015 at 10:31
Thanks guys, I would like to have Pendlebury in my team, but I can't afford him unless I trade someone else.

Patch · 05/02/2015 at 13:25
Edwards to get too much vest in my humble opinion. Steinberg may get more game time and has been an absolute beast this preseason, but will that equal more points? 100% shark team Danners, as Mick would say, but I'd take Wines over Ellis to cut down on the risk.

Danners16 · 05/02/2015 at 18:15
I believe both Bombers players might get more games with suspensions coming in for players. At the moment I probably would have Ellis still in my team, 106 average after the bye is a pretty good average in my books, I know they won a lot of times but they didn't win them all. Wines only averaged 97 after the bye which maybe a concern.

Patch · 05/02/2015 at 21:04
Wouldn't hinge too much on ASADA findings, but I take your point about Wines and Ellis.

vinnymac · 05/02/2015 at 12:27
Hi Doniphan, nice looking team! I’d like to know what your selection choices for H.Taylor, Vlastuin and Saad are.
H.Taylor plays in a key position and I’m not sure about the other two.

Donavan · 05/02/2015 at 14:32
Vinny,
The way I see these guys is-
H.Taylor – played poorly for the first half of 2014, but then clicked and started out-marking and out-possessing the key forwards he played on. I think he re-found his form, and a role that suited him perfectly.
Vlastuin – injury effected 2014, showed more than a glimpse of what he is capable of in 2013, will be far better in 2015.
Saad – cheap, can play, out to make up for lost time, after drug suspension.

Dishlickers · 04/02/2015 at 22:58
Just too let you know nice team but I think Cordy injured

throttlefinger · 05/02/2015 at 00:28
Hey Canny.
Think you got something nice going on here. Mids are solid (think you know the risks with the first 3).
My 2 cents is that you may have gone too "top shelf". Esky, Sauce and Gray. Your paying top price on players that, in my mind, have not proven they can dupe that effort. Only Gazza and Pendles give that sort of reassurance. Wouldn't say ditch them all, but may 1 or 2 go a bit cheaper. That way you can maybe trade up Titch for another prem, making Swan your F4. Or go Esky to Hibbo or Enright and Sauce to NicNat or Minson and upgrade Seedsman to Newnes or another prem (if you have any in your bank).
Again, tasty squad, Canny.

Dools · 05/02/2015 at 16:56
Seedsman went under the knife I think out for 2 months whitex is not in Hawks best 22. Reports Griffen is in back pain again down grade to couch ADL . RUCS are solid but nil cover . Clark will miss another 2 3 weeks due to calf injury. Which Menzel? Geelongs Menzel is still broken not expexted back b4 byes

throttlefinger · 05/02/2015 at 21:21
Oh no Dools. Looks like Keyboard is up to his ol' tricks again. Feeding you dusty info just to get your mouth dry and drive you to the fridge again.
Seedsman still in the running for R1: http://www.collingwoodfc.com.au/news/2015-01-25/s…
Whitecross is coming on strong and has shot for best 22: http://bit.ly/1Dzkqlg
Griffen report is unsubstantiated. Rumor at best. Crouch is equally risky as he has not gone injury-free for a whole season. Swallow is a safer bet.
Clark will be fine for R1: Smith said, "Mitch Clark is a bit like Johnson but more advanced. He hadn’t missed any sessions up to January and then got that nick in his calf. He is back running and in the next two weeks will be in the main group.”

Donavan · 04/02/2015 at 23:53
Thanks Dishlickers, I have joined.

Cam_H · 05/02/2015 at 11:09
Alessandro,
I like it because it's quite different, but there are way too many risks in my view. It's got loads of mid-pricers, and loads of key position forwards where there are MID-FWD options that are more likely to generate cash. I can't see anywhere enough 'set-and-forget' players and despite the huge number of trades we have, I'm guessing unless you get extremely lucky that most of your team will need upgrading to reach 'full premium' and you might run short on trades by season's end.
When picking mid-pricers, evaluate why you're choosing them. For example with your D3-D6; Daniel Talia is an All Australian and Club Champion doing what he does – supremely playing a negating defender and knocking out a miserable 57 SuperCoach points a game doing so. He's not going to change the way he plays in 2015, so you're extremely unlikely to see any cash generation or any big scoring there either. I worry for Courtenay Dempsey, who looks-the-goods but hasn't reached even an 80 point average in nine years, and by some accounts is struggling to keep pace with the speed of the game. Is Zach Tuohy going to have a breakout year? Maybe – but he's averaged in the last four years; 48, 54, 65, and 60. Daniel Merrett's yearly average has been going backwards in the last four years; 86, 77, 71, 53, is 30 years old, has an injury history, and has a tribunal history.
I'm not one for telling others to pick so-and-so but don't pick so-and-so, but I hope my feedback's of some help in that I think that there's potential value in some mid-pricers to be had, but be mindful of the reasons that you're picking the ones that you do. Best of luck!

Team ramrod · 05/02/2015 at 01:19
Thinking maybe Salem in for hogan

Sarah · 05/02/2015 at 11:07
Great Midfield!! Also love the defence, looks rock solid! Keep an eye on Waters in the NAB, may be touch and go. Only risk I see is if you get an injury in the ruck you've got no cover. If you're happy to go with that risk then it's a really good looking team!

T-MAC · 05/02/2015 at 08:05
James, I believe your backline is weak. Another person hasn't gone with pendles… in my eyes, he is still going to be top 5 or at least top 10 midfielders when the year ends. I like Wines, not many people going with him and he can go very large. You have your ruck swings already in place which will help you in the long run. I believe you would be best to trade Bennell to Delidio, only becuase Delidio is more proven. You also have Hogan and Clark, who are tall forwards, I believe you would be best trading one of them to a rookie who will get you more consistent scores. Best of luck.

T-MAC · 05/02/2015 at 08:09
I like your defence Nicko. I don't really see much value in Ellis. For around that price, if you could squeeze some more money, Wines would be more value. Your rucks could be great, but could crash and burn. Both of them have injury history, so my advice is to pick one, then get a premium ruck like Goldstein. Zorko is an interesting pick, I believe he wont get as much midfield time with Beams, Bundy and Robinson all coming to the club along with the return of Rich. Go with your gut, if you like Zorko, go with him.

Sarah · 05/02/2015 at 11:09
Great looking team! Love the Ellis pick! Should be a very good POD this year.
I'm also toying with the idea of selecting Zorko. Will be watching his NAB campaign closely.

Nicko · 05/02/2015 at 17:27
thanks to both for your feedback. Appreciate it.
I believe I have about $130K still in the bank so I should be able to get an upgrade in the ruck division. That was a good point.
Zorko is a wait and see for the NAB but I am hoping that he will play more mid time despite the inclusions and that Christiensen will push him out of forward line. We will see, at his price though, there is room to move to other players, I beleive.
The reasoning behind Ellis is to keep as a lock. He averaged 96 last year jumping up from 81 the previous year. Moving into his 4th year (which is prime for supercoach as Jock always tells us) I beleive he can be a 105-110 average this year. He should get more midfield time too. I'll keep a close eye on him also.
Thanks for your thoughts. Appreciate further comments

ando · 13/02/2015 at 21:23
Real solid version of the 2 3 2 DMF onfield rookie structure. Like.

T-MAC · 05/02/2015 at 08:11
Sarah, Bartel, Murphy and interesting picks. I hope they both turn out for the better but I don't like Bartel as much because he can be inconsistent. I will be watching him closely in the NAB Cup to see where he lines up.

Sarah · 05/02/2015 at 11:44
Thanks T-Mac. I'm more looking at the players consistency over a number of years for having a high season average. Bartel is a proven premium. Even last year his price only dipped late in the season and I'm not willing to wait that long again. Also with the loss of Christensen and Varoce, I'm hoping the Cats might need to play him in the middle a bit more than last year!!! Anyway, it's early Feb, chances are I'll change my mind 100 times between now and the start of the season!!

Dools · 05/02/2015 at 17:07
I like what I see very fond of the Mr football pick J. Bartel. Match winner. Have you looked at Kelly downback instead of Hibbard or even Simpson? I like this team a lot mate very very close to mine up front and mids

Dools · 05/02/2015 at 17:08
I mean Ruc not fwds

Sarah · 06/02/2015 at 09:21
Thanks Dools! Smith and Hibberd have actually been replaced by Shaw and Birchall in my current draft, but I think I'm very close to my team being finalised subject to any NAB game and round 1 selection curve balls.
The more I look at Bartel's numbers, the more of a lock he is for me.

Sarah · 06/02/2015 at 09:59
My def line now consists of Simpson, Shaw and Birchall. Looking over their supercoach history, all 3 consistently average over 90 for the year. While they may be a little up and down week to week, if I'm going to have them for the whole year then only the overall average matters.
I have thought about Kelly, bit worried about his age though and the Cats succession plans… they've got to start easing the load on Kelly and Enright soon don't they…

The Ranger · 06/02/2015 at 11:25
Karnezis? That's an interesting one. If he can get back to the form he showed in the NAB for Brisbane a couple of years back he could be a great pick.
Just added him to my NAB watchlist.

Sarah · 06/02/2015 at 11:28
He's so cheap now that he's got to be on the watchlist!! Pies have a few holes in their team too so there may be a spot for him if fit.

General Soreness · 05/02/2015 at 17:32
Nice work Sarah I'm structured very similar to this but have different players on different lines. My only comment relates to the $$ on your ruck bench, I understand why its there but I expect that when chasing world domination you want as many points being generated from on fielders as you can. $340K for bench cover is madness, could spend $$ upgrading any other line for more significant point output. If you want cover shove a DPP like Cox or Read in there and if one goes down you can trade in Forward, Ruck etc.

Sarah · 06/02/2015 at 09:25
Thanks General.
Appreciate your comments. I have thought long and hard about what to do with ruck back up and my conclusion has been to ensure I have cover, and that cover be someone who will play regularly. I'm not a fan of any of the ruck forwards, and feel I'd rather that extra forward rookie rather than waste the spot on a non-playing ruck rookie. Plus, whether my back up is Bellchambers or Grundy, I'm not overly keen to get their score on the field either unless it's to cover a short term injury to one of my starting rucks. So thank you for your comments, but I'm thinking I'll stick with a ruck priced around the $340k mark on the bench.
Also, I'm happy with the premiums I have so wouldn't know where to invest the money even if I did downgrade Grundy.

General Soreness · 06/02/2015 at 09:43
Great to see you have a strong sense of strategy. I might have misled in my original post, I am by no means suggesting using a forward dpp as back up like TBC or Ryder. My suggestion is that your rucks are premo and if they do go down you can straight trade. By using Cox as swing you can downgrade a rookie forward that's appreciated bring in Lycett if NicNat goes down and swing him into Rucks. Grundy on the bench will neither appreciate in price much nor generate points in overall standings, another premo will. I guess it comes down to what price you put on a trade.

Sarah · 06/02/2015 at 09:54
I get what you're saying General. My decision to select Grundy is not based on money making, but simply to provide cover in the ruck for those 1-2 week injuries or rests. I got burnt badly in the ruck last year and used far too many trades. If I'd had a Grundy on the bench last year I would have saved 2 trades. That's worth a lot to me.
Also, with ruck cover and a long term injury occurs, it means I won't be dictated to as to when I trade in a new premo ruck. Eg. The premo mid I've been watching is bottoming out this week and there's a rookie on his second game before his price goes up but oh no… my number 1 ruck has gone down and I now need to trade in the ruck line instead of bringing in the mid premo and trading in my cash cow. But because I've got cover I can do that the following week and it doesn't interfere with my trade strategy!!
I realise $340k for a bench player is a lot. But I feel over the course of the season it will prove worthwhile. It also means that all 30 of my players are serving a purpose. I see the rookie ruck/fwds as a waste of a player as they won't play, so they're not making money OR providing cover.
Cheers General!

General Soreness · 06/02/2015 at 11:11
Love the indepth strategy and thinking Sarah, its why I love playing this game, we have different strategies around the rucks but similar team structures and both make sense.

Sarah · 06/02/2015 at 11:18
Cheers General!! Loving the discussion and questioning of my strategy, that is what this page is all about!
Looking forward to taking you on in the Throttledome later this year!!!

General Soreness · 06/02/2015 at 12:29
Very much looking forward to it Sarah should be great fun.

chrisflavel · 05/02/2015 at 08:46
I'm in mate – finished top 1000 last year – looking forward to it!

Gold Rush · 05/02/2015 at 13:25
Thanks Donavan, look forward to it.

Donavan · 05/02/2015 at 14:33
Great to have you guys on board.

Cyril is Delicious · 05/02/2015 at 20:59
Thanks mate, just joint your league. Cheers

@lewiswgrant · 05/02/2015 at 21:56
Team name – WithAllDueRespect – have joined your comp Donavan – appreciate the invite. Grant.

Donavan · 06/02/2015 at 07:52
Welcome aboard, just 1 spot left, targeting a league average score that puts it in the top 100 leagues.

Jambo · 05/02/2015 at 10:28
IIbbotson's shoulder is stuffed, me thinks. Seedsman had hip surgery and methinks he will not play till mid-season. I think you should consider looking at Barlow. He's way under at his price and I think he could score 120+ this year. I will sound stupid but I wouldn't pick Ablett this year. Yes, I know he is an absolute champion and SuperCoach legend but the fact that he has done little contact work this pre-season concerns me gravely. I think he will play mostly forward for at least the most part of the season and play a Brad Johnson role aka. Rodney Eade's style. I would steer clear of Tommy Mitchell, he's burned us too many times in the past (not his fault, I know).
Other than that, I love your team.

Jambo · 05/02/2015 at 10:30
Don't touch Rohan, BURNMAN!

chrisflavel · 05/02/2015 at 10:33
Thanks mate – I'm one step ahead of you… he's GONSKI.

Anon · 05/02/2015 at 11:39
Finally someone else has included Ahmed Saad. My head says probably not but my gut says HELL YEAH!

Tim · 05/02/2015 at 12:10
Yeah thinking about taking a punt on him. Hopefully he gets off the rookie list!

Jambo · 06/02/2015 at 01:05
Looks likely with Siposs' shoulder injury in 4 months. Long-term injury list prospect.

Jambo · 06/02/2015 at 14:07
Greg Broughton's too up-and-down mate. I'd punt the burn-man and go for someone more reliable. Michael Johnson suffered an interrupted pre-season so, atm he is overpriced. I'd consider Harwood and Duffield. Also look at Langdon.

Sarah · 05/02/2015 at 14:29
You do realise that Ibbo has only had 1 supercoach relevant average in his career in 2013, and even then he only played 13 games making him irrelevant again??? I don't understand what all the fuss is about with Ibbo. Won't be touching him with a 10ft pole myself. I'm selecting proven defensive premiums who average in the 90's year after year.

Sarah · 05/02/2015 at 14:29
Having said that I like your team, other than Ibbo and Waters.

General Soreness · 05/02/2015 at 14:35
Right there with you Sarah, although I might risk Waters ride the increase before he breaks again.

Sarah · 05/02/2015 at 14:40
I'm a bit too scared of Waters breaking to risk it myself General. Hope it pays off for you though if you do stick with him!!

General Soreness · 06/02/2015 at 09:44
I am trying to avoid him but if I get 6-7 games out of him at 85+ I am ahead. Alot of it will come down to what rooks are available round 1.

Donavan · 06/02/2015 at 08:01
Not entirely convinced with Jed Anderson getting the opportunities he deserves.
Not sure of the Hawthorn pecking order for the following fringe mids-
Anderson
Hartung
O'Rourke
I'll be watching the NAB cup very closely, to see how this pans out.

Sarah · 05/02/2015 at 14:31
Far too light on in the backline. You need at least 1 more premium. You're relying too much on players with injury histories… and N Brown doesn't even score well when fit.

Sarah · 05/02/2015 at 14:37
I'd be careful with Ibbo. He's has only had 1 supercoach relevant average in his career in 2013, and even then he only played 13 games making him irrelevant again??? I don't understand what all the fuss is about with Ibbo. Won't be touching him with a 10ft pole myself.

Sarah · 05/02/2015 at 14:41
I like it! There's good balance over the lines. Only concern might be the lack of ruck cover if you get an injury.

Jack · 05/02/2015 at 16:02
yeah i downgraded newnes to seedmen.
nankervis to wright and selwood to pendles

Jambo · 06/02/2015 at 14:11
Seedsman is set to miss the early part of the season mate. I reckon try Langdon from the Pies.

Gold Rush · 05/02/2015 at 13:40
Got to get your Premo count up,

BigDropKick · 05/02/2015 at 15:01
Thanks GR , spent all my $ , not sure how I can ?

Gold Rush · 05/02/2015 at 15:51
Have a play with the SC team Builder, but nothing can be finalised with any level of certainty until NAB closure & rnd 1 selection. Keep an eye on the accumulated points that the system provides for you (although if you select Rockclif, the points are nonsense), use it as a rough guide only. You really want to be hitting over the 1800 mark.

BigDropKick · 05/02/2015 at 17:39
Great ! , thanks for the GR …. is it on the SC web site ? cannot see it

Gold Rush · 05/02/2015 at 22:25
When you save your team you should be able to see it,

Sarah · 05/02/2015 at 14:43
I've been handing out this advice a bit today…
I'd be careful with Ibbo. He's has only had 1 supercoach relevant average in his career in 2013, and even then he only played 13 games making him irrelevant again??? I won't be touching him.
Love your midfield!!!

BigDropKick · 05/02/2015 at 15:03
Thanks Sarah : ) , yeah I am a bit suss of him …. think you are right .

Sarah · 05/02/2015 at 14:45
Your midfield is too strong, making your other lines very weak. Look to turn at least 2 of those midfielders into rookies and spread the cash over your back and forward lines. You don't want to miss out on all the good midfield rookies… that's where you'll make your cash!

Nate · 05/02/2015 at 15:56
i worked the list where i had 15 keepers including bellchambers, higgins and thomas, also has an 8/10/11 bye ratio. obviously will change in nab cup. dunno which others in the midfield will get a shot yet. Rich and wells could be in there too.

Cam_H · 05/02/2015 at 15:12
Dale Thomas AND Shaun Higgins … are you sure this isn't Jock Reynolds' team?
Arguably a bit of a risk with Bellchambers as R2 with no ruck coverage, but it could all work out fine for you.
At the moment (although it will inevitably change) my rucks are Naitanui, Leuenberger, and Cox, with Bellchambers in the forward line, so if Naitanui or Leuenberger hit a short term injury or suspension or something not too dire, I can swing in Bellchambers via Cox. If Bellchambers has a short term break, he can be benched as a forward. Several are suggesting that it's too early to worry about swing sets, but it works for me right now.

Sarah · 05/02/2015 at 14:56
I'd downgrade Rich to a rookie and use the cash to upgrade Waters to a premium. I have a feeling Rich may turn out to be 2015's Dale Thomas. But that's just my opinion.

Dave · 08/02/2015 at 22:21
Will RYDER play rich a lot

Tman · 05/02/2015 at 17:20
Hi Dustin
I do believe your obsevation is correct. Cox is being picked for non playing cheap dpp.
Some will not start with ryder/bellchambers initially, but have them as upgrade targets for one of the fwd rookies.

Danners16 · 05/02/2015 at 18:22
Hey Dustin, people are using Cox and Read as swing sets to their forward line. People may be looking for a rookie in their forward line but someone for example Nankervis might be playing games and doing well so Cox/Read could be switched to the fwd line so he could be bought in. Similar reason to why people have mid/fwd in their midfield

Kyle · 06/02/2015 at 09:44
Tom Bellchambers is another dpp and at 300k could be a bargain

Dools · 05/02/2015 at 17:17
Hi mate ibbo see sarahs post above she nailed it and his SC relevancy other then that sorry I missed you at your bottlo anyone who is a friend to the community is by default my mate. Cheers

vcloophole · 05/02/2015 at 18:58
Your a good egg Dools. Cheers mate.
I'll have a squiz at Sarah's posts re Ibbo and take it on board.
At this stage, if he plays NAB and looks ok…he is LOCKED. He is only priced at approx 63, and he is a proven point scorer when given the opportunity and fit. Obviously, the key is "when fit". That being said, *if* another quality defensive rook emerges in the NAB, then he may get the chop anyway, Tryng to spend as little as possible in defense this year Dools.

Tman · 05/02/2015 at 17:24
I Like the your structure vc. Maybe too many risky picks in the back would be my big concern.
Also note jock mentioned Griffen maybe having back issues. Unconfirmed at this stage.

vcloophole · 05/02/2015 at 18:23
Yep definitely a little nervous about Griff. Ollie Wines is the obvious replacement for him if his back is giving him trouble. In fact Wines just may get the nod ahead of him anyway.

General Soreness · 05/02/2015 at 17:26
VC with that level of strength in the rucks you can just trade directly in the event of a long term injury, therefore Ryder cover is only for short term injuries, you need to ask what will he cost you in total points each week to justify having him as cover.

vcloophole · 05/02/2015 at 18:47
Very nutritious food for thought General. Cheers for the input old mate. I think that I'll probably need Ryder's short term cover for at least 3 or 4 weeks so for me, that is worth it. The crux of it tho, is I also really dislike the prospect of a spud cheapy/mid-pricer using up cash on my bench when he may or may not even be playing!
This is very left field…shark theory, if you will…buuut, I'm also *flirting* with going bareback (NO ruck cover) for the first 5-7 weeks, then making my priority first trade of Ryder into the fwds to provide DPP cover.
This is a risky but very high reward strategy, no doubt.
On one hand, if any of my starting rucks were to miss a week or two before upgrading a rook to Ryder it would be an absolute bastard! On the other hand, I will probably be able to pick him up 20-40K cheaper if he has a slow start, AND use the extra cash from not starting him on another premo somewhere else on the field.
In a perfect world, I want to finish with Paddy as a F7 gun super sub. Dare to dream eh?
That being said, if he looks good in the NAB, I'll probably start him…

General Soreness · 06/02/2015 at 12:28
For the record I am currently going "Bareback" but I am unlikely to trade a DPP ruck in for cover unless they are in enough form to justify their spot. I am not sure Paddy is likely to provide the output of last year (his best) considering he will be 2nd ruck and spend more time forward.

Avzmo · 06/02/2015 at 11:43
You've sunk a lot of cash into that forward line and not terribly much into the midfield, I think there are lots of options in the midfield that you could take advantage of, and getting bang for your buck then having 5 $400k+ players upfront.
You've already pointed out the short down back strategy, which I am using in only going 3 players 400-500, then cascading down from there. (Waters, Whitecross, Goddard)
I've spoken to a few SC nuts and they seem to think their strategy might be close to 3-6-1.5-3 in the premo department (counting premos as 400+ in this case).
All that said, I don't look at any players there and think they are bad choices, just a very interesting setup. A whole team POD maybe?

Tman · 05/02/2015 at 17:27
Unlikely to start r1. Maybe a downgrade or rookie correction later in the season.

Cam_H · 05/02/2015 at 15:55
T-MAC,
For what this 'insight' (rolleyes) is worth …
I have Luke Hodge at D2 at the moment myself, but could easily take Michael Hibberd or Heath Shaw before the season starts. My concerns are Hodge's age relative to Hibberd, and the likelihood of niggling injuries. His DPP might become useful later in the season if he is rested, I've still got him., and can afford to bench him rather than trade him.
I'm being fairly speculative with the backs at the moment, with Newnes at D3, Beau Waters at D4, and Brendan Whitecross at D5 (Simpson's my D1).

lostlarrikin · 05/02/2015 at 17:32
Yeah im in ur camp there Cam.
ATM have Hodge, Hibbo, Newnes, Waters, WhiteX, Goddard.
Hawks notorious for point spread over wider pool of premos so expect Hodge to maintain the rage

General Soreness · 05/02/2015 at 18:13
of those Newnes at D4, put a line through the others regardless.

Cam_H · 05/02/2015 at 19:46
Why General Soreness? Help! Newnes actually strikes me as riskier than Hodge.

Trab Pukcip · 07/02/2015 at 16:09
Hodges averages have progressively got worse over the last 5 seasons, he is on the verge of 31 years of age and WILL miss games due to injury! It is wishful thinking to assume that his average will increase whereas Newnes is 60k cheaper and better odds of his average increasing. Best case scenario Hodge plays 18 games and holds his 91 average. Hawks have a lot of young blokes from last year who will continue to progress ie: Langford, hill, hartung etc. He'll get rested no doubt.

GLORIN · 07/02/2015 at 18:37
Check out Hodge's numbers in the finals.( 97,143, 137) Got better as the year went on and is injury free this pre season. Agree he may miss some games but given DPP and price is great value as a defender. If he ends up as a d4- d5 at end of season averaging 91 over 20 games, you would have to say it is a good pick.
Ablett is 1 month older than Hodge and coming off a season ending shoulder injury and is not in full contact training as yet, priced at $730k and no one on here is questioning his output.

Trab Pukcip · 08/02/2015 at 18:36
GLORIN, that's all well and good but we don't get those finals scores do we!!!! And as for GAZ he hasn't averaged under 127 in the last 7 years. Hodge last four seasons 106, 85, 96, 91, you cant see the decline? If you are keen on him that's fine. I cant justify putting him in as I would always be worrying about him being a late withdrawal or being rested, STUFF THAT! (just my opinion)

Glorin · 08/02/2015 at 22:59
Hey Trab, the numbers I put up re finals were to demonstrate how well he finished the season and if these were included in his ave he would be pushing to be the number 1 defensive player in the game.
The question asked was is he worth considering for D2 and given the lack of premo defenders this year I would say he is worth considering and has the potential to be in the top 6 defenders at years end. Agree that he may miss games, but there a number of players in that same boat. Does any of this mean I am going to pick him, not necessarily, but I felt that the arguments I made do provide some insight and hopefully allows some on here to make a more informed decision.
cheers

Trab Pukcip · 10/02/2015 at 14:34
Hi GOLORIN, I definitely can understand your line of thinking! Breaking it down is what we need to do, the more the better I says!!

Gold Rush · 05/02/2015 at 15:55
Sorry Dennis, but Carlton are the reason why I believe in abortions.

T-MAC · 05/02/2015 at 16:00
Gold Rush I think your a little wrong there, I'm sure many supercoachers will be picking Boekhorst who is a Carlton player. For what its worth, I think Cripps could be a good option for you Dennis

Danners16 · 05/02/2015 at 18:19
Cripps is a good option, although he is injured at the moment

nick · 10/02/2015 at 22:06
every year the last 2 3 years say get cripps in lock him in sorry just not a big rap for him he scores poorly maybe 3 or 4 good games but u need players around u that will make points and money

Ethan · 12/02/2015 at 08:27
There is stefan martin though and that can impact how effective leungurger is

Kev · 05/02/2015 at 16:50
No Ablett is suicide. If he blows it, you've got 740k to spend elsewhere. If he smashes you're gonna have all sorts of problems getting him in.

danny boi · 09/02/2015 at 16:06
is this your first year??

nick · 10/02/2015 at 22:02
just a thought I love joel selwood I am a huge cat fan but recent history has showen that selwood dose not score well on the first few games might be wrong but hawks fro dose not score over 100 in last few years but I always go with my gut and I wont be stating with selwood or stevie j this year just a thought and dion prestia and swolller and I think scott Thompson good player but not a good fantsy scorer your back line looks kinda bad u need at last 2 to 3 players on each line that will score huge like over 120 each week for u just a thought

FootyFanatic · 05/02/2015 at 16:33
I would upgrade Wells as your a bit light in the mids, apart from that you've got a solid team

Kev · 05/02/2015 at 16:48
400k left! Turn Wells into Jelwood mate. Other than that I really like this team

Dom · 05/02/2015 at 17:11
My msitake had about $500k left with wells in, might swap him for Jelwood, Andy Swallow or Jack Steven for now

hamptoncolts · 05/02/2015 at 21:10
I like the pick of wells, think he can be a big money maker. With 500K i would upgrade a midfield rookie to a premium, possibly Wines or Grey as I feel port are going to have a big year.

Dom · 06/02/2015 at 00:00
I agree with you there but it looks like this could be a bumper year for cheap mid rookies, might as well take advantage and spend the cash elsewhere

George · 05/02/2015 at 16:19
My order of likelihood: Montagna, Judd, Boyd

@D_Munro92 · 05/02/2015 at 16:27
Avoid all 3

Jambo · 06/02/2015 at 14:16
Boyd is the most likely of the three.

General Soreness · 06/02/2015 at 14:46
No.

George · 05/02/2015 at 16:18
Also have $55,400 left

Footy Fanatic · 05/02/2015 at 16:30
That's a good start, I would keep an eye on Griffen as he is reportedly having back problems.
I personally wouldn't start with both M Johnson and G Ibbotsen as they could get a bit of the Ross Lyon treatment

George · 05/02/2015 at 16:44
Thanks FF have now swapped Johnson and Griffen for Newnes and Sloane

Dools · 05/02/2015 at 17:18
Nice move

Kev · 05/02/2015 at 16:43
On the right track there, Tansyn. I like the fact you've got ruck/fwd cover but there are doubts on Ryder's role. Lobbe is a fantastic ruck so I don't see Port using him less in that role

Kev · 05/02/2015 at 16:41
Looking at his numbers he doesn't seem to be a great scorer anyway. Highest season average of 64.9 in 2010. Also never completed a full season. With Dimma preferring to keep an unchanged back six I'd look elsewhere, Paddles

Kev · 05/02/2015 at 16:37
Nice team Kyle. Good mix of solid picks and a few risky selections. Doubts on Tippett being in NM best 22 though. Also, Scotty Selwood will have no preseason and is likely to miss round 1
http://www.perthnow.com.au/sport/afl/jack-darling…

George · 05/02/2015 at 16:40
Yeah, keep Tippett out

kylebien · 05/02/2015 at 16:45
thanks, I also have my doubts on Tippett, I didn't know that about S Selwood though, any other alternatives for Tippett in that price range that you recommend?

Justin · 05/02/2015 at 16:43
Rucks
Nic Nat, Kreuzer, A. Cordy

@RyanRhino14 · 05/02/2015 at 17:15
no Ablett?

Phil · 05/02/2015 at 18:08
It's a bit of a high risk high reward strategy you seem to be taken and I don't mind a risk but not in the midfield, just go safe there. You have not many captain options.

Justin · 05/02/2015 at 18:31
Thanks ryan and phil.
Ive got 120k left over, dont know what to do with it.
Backing in ward, Heppell, danger and boak to be amongst best mids, and get ablett selwood and pendles during season.
If thats possible.
Not that keen on petracca salem clarke or saad, keep my eye out to change them and use the 122k

Jimi · 05/02/2015 at 17:56
Overall I like it. I feel you're a bit skinny in the MIDS but can see that you're chasing that sweet sweet rookie MID coin. Would have serious doubts over Mumford's set and forget value as a premium ruck (although I'm biased against him as I got burned real bad by him last year).

Farnzy · 05/02/2015 at 18:14
Very heavy on the Round 12 bye players, but if you don't care about that, it looks a pretty solid side.

Jimi · 05/02/2015 at 17:53
Too high to take the POD risk for the very reason you mentioned, no Griffin = hard tag every week. It just puts doubt in my mind that he'll be a top 8 MID by season's end. When priced at almost 600k he's just not an acceptable risk IMO.

Phil · 05/02/2015 at 18:01
Agree with what Jimi says, and until he starts kicking goals I don't feel his scoring will improve. If you look at the elite midfielders in the comp Ablett, Pendlebury, Selwood, Fyfe etc they all kick a goal a game+. Until Libba starts doing that he won't average more than 110. Having said that he does enough (clearances, contested poss, tackles) to consistently give you that 110 average if that's what you're after.

General Soreness · 05/02/2015 at 18:03
Upgrade target for mine.

Farnzy · 05/02/2015 at 18:08
Will get tagged big time this year! Round 15 last year Viney (not even a genuine tagger) stuck to him like shit to a blanket and kept him to 63. Imagine how much he may struggle with genuine run with players following him all day. Needs to prove he can cope with a tag week in week out before I fork out that kinda coin!

Morse · 05/02/2015 at 23:33
Fair points lads, good feedback. I guess just trying to justify the exclusion cause something tells me he may just thrive this year. Let's hope we're on the money with our predictions by leaving him out.
Cheers

Dom · 06/02/2015 at 00:16
History shows why, he was alot less effective last year when Griffin was out. You only have 8 spots, to pick him you have to believe that he will finish a top 8 mid.

Jimi · 05/02/2015 at 17:51
Hahaha, is this team going to be called F.C Treatment Room!
Love your work.

General Soreness · 05/02/2015 at 18:08
There is no prizes for last Mick.

Gold Rush · 06/02/2015 at 02:21
May the Lord have Mercy.

Mick · 06/02/2015 at 17:40
hahahaha I would laugh if they all stayed on the park for the whole year!!

General Soreness · 05/02/2015 at 18:11
Solid team Farnzy, perhaps one premo mid short and one premo defender too many.

Farnzy · 05/02/2015 at 17:57
Team 1 is better overall IMO. Team 2 midfield is very strong but leaves you lacking on other lines.

General Soreness · 05/02/2015 at 18:04
T-MAC teams are formed around the two differing schools of thought in the community at the moment. Both are solid teams, ultimately it will depend on your settled strategy.

Sarah · 06/02/2015 at 09:45
I like team 1 T-MAC. I don't think you want to go too heavy in the mids as at this stage there is looking like being plenty of good cash generating mid rookies and you don't want to limit how much cash you can make. While a heavy midfield always looks good on paper, too heavy and it'll impact you soon after the start of the season in a negative way. Ultimately your starting structure will be determined by round 1 rookie selections.

General Soreness · 05/02/2015 at 18:10
High risk backline Jimi. Depends on your overall strategy but I would be inclined to give it some consistency by adding a proven permanent defender that averages around 90.

Danners16 · 05/02/2015 at 18:28
Hi Ollie, great team although, four premiums with the round 12 bye in your midfield maybe a problem as you don't want to be mucking around with your premiums mid season. I would at least two would have to go and I would probably look at someone with the round 11 bye like Rockliff or Sloane since you have the money so you have a even spread.

Ollie · 05/02/2015 at 18:36
Cheers for the heads up Danners! First year doing SC , learning as I go mate. Thanks again

Danners16 · 05/02/2015 at 19:29
Good start then!

Jeff · 05/02/2015 at 20:20
midfield that is

Northernsoul74 · 05/02/2015 at 20:29
Boak.

Jeff · 05/02/2015 at 20:31
will consider

Kyle · 05/02/2015 at 20:31
Not sure on byes but here’s a few : danger Greene wines boak lids (DPP) crouch and heppel

Phil · 06/02/2015 at 22:52
Boak, Danger, Lewis and Cotchin

Kyle · 05/02/2015 at 20:36
I would hold off on malcheski because hi role at GC is still unsure. One to watch in man cup

Ozfisho · 05/02/2015 at 20:41
Yeah, I'll drop him out fairly quick if he doesn't start, so that will go back into the bank and buy someone else

Stickman · 08/02/2015 at 03:02
Solid team. Only player I dont agree is Salem, I think Mitch Clark is a better option. But you never know who could be the Chad Wingard (2013) of this year.

Sarah · 06/02/2015 at 10:27
Hi Danners.
A lot of people are cautious about the byes and getting their starting structures ready for the byes, but the byes are over halfway through the season!!!
Most teams will have brought in 2/3/4 (even more!) premos by then which will totally change their bye structure.
Are you willing to go without one of Gaz, Pendles and Fyfe for over half the season???
I think last year the byes were more relevant to our starting teams as they started in round 8, but this year is a bit different.

General Soreness · 06/02/2015 at 10:31
Spot on Sarah, when your magazine arrives there is a ripping article Good Bye Strategy that deals with this in detail. Personally most round 11 Bye players are upgrade targets for me so I can trade through the byes without the donuts.

Sarah · 06/02/2015 at 10:37
OMG, I can't wait for it to arrive!!! Getting very jealous of everyone who already has theirs.
I'm with you on most of the round 11 bye players… looking at Rocky, Beams, Zorko, D Martin and Burgoyne as port round 11 trade options. But I won't leave out a player from my starting line up just because of the byes.

Phil · 06/02/2015 at 22:56
'Are you willing to go half a season without one of Gaz, Pendles and Fyfe?' Excellent advice, I feel it applies to Rocky too

Give It A Go · 07/02/2015 at 00:10
Thanks for your league code Danners16, just joined, cheers

Lewy1243 · 08/02/2015 at 17:36
Thanks for letting me know, will think about that now

Kyle · 05/02/2015 at 21:13
Wingards out of training for a month,,,I’d look elsewhere

hamptoncolts · 05/02/2015 at 21:43
thanks mate

Paddles · 05/02/2015 at 23:17
One word Abblett

Sarah · 06/02/2015 at 10:30
Ooooh way too much risk for me!!

Lewy1243 · 08/02/2015 at 18:09
It sounds like you are using the midprice strategy with lots of rookies, way to risky but it may pay off if rookies are good

pauly peanuts · 05/02/2015 at 21:37
Hey Nick, just a question mate, how old are you ?

nick · 05/02/2015 at 22:04
None of your biz why and I know my spelling etc are shit house english at school was not my best subject but I think u know my team and who cars if I dont put full stops in etc I just love fantasy football and get pumped writting my team down I just do it that way

Omen · 08/02/2015 at 15:37
By the way pauly p, no space before a question mark.

Donavan · 05/02/2015 at 22:57
Nick,
General thoughts are I like the team, but you need to get Ablett in. I would downgrade Malcevski and/or S.Selwood and get Ablett in.

nick · 06/02/2015 at 12:33
I think I might do that

Kev · 06/02/2015 at 11:04
Big call on Cockatoo. Obviously big wraps on the kid but Geelong aren't known for playing their rookies. With 5 KPF's and a shallow looking mid you're setting yourself up for a lot of early sideways trading.

KRS · 05/02/2015 at 22:36
or hogan…… and why?

Kev · 06/02/2015 at 10:57
Bit of guess work at this point, KRS. Hogan if money is an issue. Salem watch for his role in the nab. A lot of coin to spend on Petracca, don't recommend unless he is going bananas pre season

Kev · 06/02/2015 at 10:54
Nice premium options, Phat Man. Four on field rookies in your mids means you could be playing catchup until they've appreciated enough in value.
Not sure how you're playing the byes but Gaz/Pendles/Fyfe all share the round 12 rest which will be carnage for your scoring that week

Avzmo · 06/02/2015 at 11:59
Agree with Kev, your midfield is not busy enough for me, I think 5 premos for a midfield is generally a minimum.

Phat Man · 06/02/2015 at 17:33
which forward do you think is the best one to get rid of?

t_mitch · 07/02/2015 at 10:40
last years winner only started 4 premo mids, food for thought

Kyle · 07/02/2015 at 07:17
I would remove malcheski until I was sure on his role at a new club. Also Johnson has an interrupted per season through injury so I would downgrade to someone like Simpson or birchal as well as a solid rookie and use the spare cash to pump some more premium into your mids

Nuggety · 06/02/2015 at 00:05
Not yet mate… Hanging tough hearing it’s worth the wait..

Nuggety · 06/02/2015 at 00:13
Just checked the date ordered, back in December geez poor old WA … Queue violins.. welcome

Sarah · 06/02/2015 at 10:33
I'm still waiting on mine and I live in Melbourne 🙁

Avzmo · 06/02/2015 at 11:57
Your backline has more holes then swiss cheese. Langdon could have the dreaded curse of the second year, don't like him at his price, there are better options. I wouldn't even bother touching Fisher or Taylor Hunt.
Also you have a lot of cash on your bench through the forward line, I might look to restructure your rookies there.

Paddles · 06/02/2015 at 21:36
Taylor Hunt new run with roll at Tigerland taking Dan Jacksons roll I think you will see him in the Mids not down back.

Kev · 06/02/2015 at 10:45
Team is coming along nicely, hawk. Wines and Crouch I see as safer breakout options. Not sold on Newnes and Docherty but the cupboard is pretty bare in defence anyway. Bit of talk around the community about Bennell just not being up to scratch yet. The talent is there but not the consistency

Kev · 06/02/2015 at 10:40
To me you've overspent in defence. Have a look at other teams for defensive option ideas and use the saved cash to take advantage of the DPP forwards like Lids and Goddard

General Soreness · 06/02/2015 at 10:11
Solid Andrew, thats a lot of coin in the bank, I would consider upgrading on another line, perhaps Luey to NicNat.

shezza · 06/02/2015 at 06:01
No to boyd

General Soreness · 06/02/2015 at 10:01
Burnzy nice work so nice POD's in the there that aren't high risk. Boyd is unlikely to produce supercoach relevant output if he plays. Im keen on Harwood too, but just too awkwardly priced to be picked.

Burnzy · 06/02/2015 at 11:04
Instead of boyd who would you go?

Dishlickers · 07/02/2015 at 13:30
Eli or membrey

General Soreness · 06/02/2015 at 10:09
Mate the articles by C-Money and John Bruyn may shed some light on your beliefs regarding strategy. Also read the article from Mick the Mad Irishman regarding his mid price strategy. There are further wisdoms in the magazine that will help.
As it stands there is a significant amount of risk in the team too much in my opinion, ignoring rookies I can identify 7 players I would suggest are high risk either from price, output or injury perspective. History will show people at best will get around 50% right and 50% wrong of these selections meaning your trading at least 3+ times more to correct deficiencies before you have commenced.
Putting aside the strategy issue which is entirely your call. Two things stand out, no Ablett – he is a must in my book. Your R3 P Lacey is not a DPP go with Read, Cox or similar to allow you to use Ryder should your high risk rucks go down.

itsTet · 06/02/2015 at 03:44
lol forgot to link http://imgur.com/18qdPia

General Soreness · 06/02/2015 at 10:02
Nice work itsTet, your research is going well.

A Saint in Geelong · 07/02/2015 at 21:20
beware the mid pricer midfielder. CP might struggle to see game time, a atkins or brayshaw will see more early game time for cheaper coin. Like the set up with the ruck and forwards, good balanced squad

General Soreness · 06/02/2015 at 09:46
One of 5-6 premo defenders that should be in consideration. You know what you will get with him. High 80's low 90's average.

Sarah · 06/02/2015 at 11:22
He's in my team. Should average around 90 and has a proven history of this. Don't think we'll get many defenders averaging 100 this year so 90 is the pass mark.

Kev · 06/02/2015 at 10:36
M5-M8 is a worry with all 3 coming back from injury. Have a look at Jock's rookie cheat sheet and keep an eye on the nab cup for rookies coming through. Frees up some cash to turn some of those iffy picks into solid premiums.

Sarah · 06/02/2015 at 11:49
I agree with Kev. Love the D Smith pick though! He was great last year. Not sure how the arrival of Griffin will impact his scoring and midfield time though.

General Soreness · 06/02/2015 at 12:23
I see Smith as GWS, M6-8 instead of last year M4-6 = less mid time more fwd time = less SC scoring.

Kyle · 07/02/2015 at 07:12
Thanks! Il be sure to look at changing a few of them. Also whats your thoughts on Membrey now that Saint took a big forward in petracca

Kev · 06/02/2015 at 16:43
Nice looking team, Aiden. Seedsman out with hip surgery and Clurey will struggle to hold his spot in the best 22 once Trengove returns

General Soreness · 06/02/2015 at 11:42
Ranger looking promising, Titch should be in your fwd line a waste as a mid. Some nice POD's there. And yes the Def line is a head scratcher this year.

The Ranger · 06/02/2015 at 11:58
You're spot on about Titch and he'll probably end up there but he's very much a watch and wait at the moment.
Not sure what I do with the mid spot that he'd vacate too. Another rookie in there seems extravagant!

Sarah · 06/02/2015 at 15:19
Last years winner only started with 4 premo mids. It's not such a bad idea.

General Soreness · 06/02/2015 at 11:40
Avzmo team looks good mate, only major comment relates to Goddard, it is a waste starting him as a mid when he is DPP. Chuck him in your forward line.

Avzmo · 06/02/2015 at 11:54
Just as a very quick substitute, I have the option of Clark out, Goddard down and Rich into the midfield. Not sure how much I like Rich at this price, and what I can see his output as this year. But makes for a complete team.

General Soreness · 06/02/2015 at 12:20
If not sold on Rich at his price you could consider the likes of Cripps, Biggs etc or even a total rookie depending on NAB. Keep the cash for correctives or upgrade other lines / players.

General Soreness · 06/02/2015 at 12:23
Better than last year.

Gold Rush · 06/02/2015 at 13:01
Reckon he will be pinching points from Rocky.

t_mitch · 06/02/2015 at 15:50
dominate, 120 mark

I N Pieman · 06/02/2015 at 15:25
Very nice looking team there Troppo. I'm super keen to lock GAJ Pendles & Selwood from the beginning. Motlop is an interesting selection. Pretty sure I'll be going in with one of Ibbotson or Pearce. Possibly both. I can't get that 30 Simpson scored last season out of my head. I'm looking at value selections for D2-D5. Overall that's one of the better teams i've seen. Good job

General Soreness · 06/02/2015 at 16:32
I know we love value as Supercoachers, I cant see any in Ibbo. I dont mind Simpson as R1 that 30 is a scary but for mine was uncahracteristic and if you remove it from his scores last year increases his average, his total points for the year were strong regardless of the 30.

Troppo · 06/02/2015 at 16:49
I’ve decided to go with Motlop as he is one year older and one year more mature, also with Varcoe and Christiansen leaving he will play every week and hopefully step up to fill in these roles, fingers crossed.

Tony G · 06/02/2015 at 15:54
Comments appreciated..

General Soreness · 06/02/2015 at 16:29
Tony nice team, I am concerned about your R2 but that is more my issue than yours, I am sure you have your reasons. I share Jocks views on Higgins.

Tony G · 06/02/2015 at 17:28
Thanks. Yep, I was thinking of that, I’ll see how my bench and rookies go in the NAB cup, look for cheaper options, then get R2 up to a Kruezer. I like Higgins at the back, I heard Scott saying Higgins, Bastinac and McDonald will get lots of midfield time,
What do you think of Sam Durdin for ruck bench @ 140k, North extended his contract even before his first game.

Kev · 06/02/2015 at 16:41
How much you got left over, Andrew? With no Ablett/Pendles/Fyfe your mids look very weak. McCartin will play but is not SC relevant at that price.
Have a read about Carlisle in this article. Carrying an injury http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/supercoach-…

Justin B · 06/02/2015 at 16:10
MID: Ablett, Pendlebury, Sloane, Kennedy **, Rich , Newton, Boekhurst, Freeman [Heeney, Krakouer, Lambert]

General Soreness · 06/02/2015 at 16:30
Big fwd spend there Justin, a strategy not many have adopted, a POD strategy infact. I hope it serves you well.

ando · 13/02/2015 at 22:06
Don’t like ibbot or waters given recent media. Rest looks good.

ando · 13/02/2015 at 22:11
Pretty common structure / player list. What is your POD?

ando · 13/02/2015 at 22:14
Actually miss stronger than many. Backs weaker. Got it. Nice work on starting premiums.

Seaford Scouse · 13/02/2015 at 00:25
My 2c Daniel,
Drop Simpson (not fully there yet) and brown (crap at sc and only useful as desperation) and keep Taylor in the back line (will improve this year)
You need to get Ablett in, simple as! I would look at boak and Steven to make it happen, not much upside on both to my mind, yes Steven will be injury free but will cop a lot of attention negating his cheap price.
TBC is a liability ‘if’ he steps up and is injury free will be a value pick but better options I reckon.
Not sure you can run with both Martin and Kelly in the forward line either, I’d go with (and I have) Martin, better team, cracking end of season and best 22. Think this guy will turn it on this year as a prelude to his elite status! Great that we have him in the forward line this year, won’t last!

bart · 07/02/2015 at 22:37
stiil got $43600 in the bank

JPK for PM · 06/02/2015 at 21:54
good thought might drop o rourke for a rookie get an extra 100k

Mark · 06/02/2015 at 22:51
And jonathan griffin as a bench ruck?

Jack · 07/02/2015 at 07:32
Not the number one ruckman at his club like Bellchambers. Can score well but he would be 2nd or third in line

t_mitch · 08/02/2015 at 08:54
mark my words, tom nichols is gold coasts best ruckman, i rate him higher than smith and i think rocket will be smart enough to see this, if he is in the team round 1, set and forget

Kev · 07/02/2015 at 12:50
If Zac Smith goes down I'll be throwing the key into the Yarra. Watch nab closely to see how Suns are lining up

Kev · 07/02/2015 at 12:55
Looked into Geary and he is a role player at the Saints, sometimes used for tagging jobs as well. Never averaged above 80 (his best being 79.8 in 2013). Only with defence being the way it is has him on my watchlist, but way down the bottom of it

t_mitch · 07/02/2015 at 10:39
this all depends on joel tippett taking a big fwd and freeing him up, he avg 98 when delaney took pressure off him then they traded him, hopefully tippett will free him up and get his avg up, watch in nab

Kev · 07/02/2015 at 12:48
Looks like you're in a good place, Supercoach Kid. Cameron has come out and said Griffin's back is fine. Case of watching him in the nab cup now and make you're own call on him. Tex, Clark, Hogan all KPF's = risky. Not a fan of the stay at home forwards but that's your call

Supercoach Kid · 07/02/2015 at 22:13
Delivery into the Geelong forward line will be top notch again this year, the team that keeps on giving, if clark can capture that form again, i think he will be a top buy for the year
Tex, taking on captaincy will either make or break him
Hogan, well hes a kid, we will see what happens there

Kev · 07/02/2015 at 12:43
G'day Cattack, ballsy defence so I expected the rest of your team to be filled with premos… and it's not. I count 8, possibly 9 keepers there and that's not enough I'm afraid. You want to start with 11-13 premium keepers.
Defence aside, Morabito had more surgery on his knee in January. Karnezis is not SC relevant until Pies give him a go, Bellyache is sliding down my watch list, not confident at all in his body.
Not at all lost though, plenty of cash to play with. Have a look through this thread for some ideas

Cattack · 08/02/2015 at 08:10
thxs for your reply will try to improve it

Kev · 07/02/2015 at 12:33
Looks a solid team, Connor. Injury clouds over N. Brown and Clark. Not massive worries as rookies will step up in the nab. As for Selwood/JPK/Priddis for Fyfe, go back and read the wonderful reviews some of the guys put together during the off season http://www.jockreynolds.com.au/2015-supercoach-pl…
Word of warning though, having Fyfe will result in 3 of your mid premos sharing the round 12 bye (Ablett and Pendles)

Connor · 07/02/2015 at 22:24
Hmm good observation Kev, I will need to look into those things!!

Ryan · 07/02/2015 at 15:37
Hey Cj, decent team. However a couple of key position defenders. Very inconsistent scorers. Secondly for ryder, at his price you'd want to know his exact role in ports ruck scheme. I can see him playing second ruck behind lobbe which will lower his output.

Knowsitall · 07/02/2015 at 14:17
no

Lewy1243 · 08/02/2015 at 17:31
Not to many people have him in their team, if he looks good after R2 then replace for waters but atm i would say no

Ryan · 07/02/2015 at 15:34
Hey stickman, pretty good team. All I'd change is Riewoldt, due to age and kpf. Walters from freo looks promising and is only 380k. Use that money to upgrade kreuzer. Word is he will be playing fwd line which will affect score

Stickman · 07/02/2015 at 16:14
Thanks Ryan, I honestly had not thought of Walters, but looks a good POD with back to back hundreds to finish the year off.
With Kreuzer I'm now tossing up between Naitnaui and Minson.

GLORIN · 07/02/2015 at 19:00
Check out Higgo's article on the change in ruck scoring for this season. Will pretty much rule out Minson as a viable selection.
Riewoldt should start well but may not be a keeper. I am hoping to use him in a straight swap for Robbie Gray and hoping that their prices converge somewhere around round 5-6.
May want to reconsider one of either gilbert or waters, going with both is a big risk, esp with Enright and Brown (poor scorer, not worth it), your backline has the potential to fall apart. Maybe look at a couple of safer options.
Nice team otherwise.

Stickman · 08/02/2015 at 00:23
Cheers Glorin have now gone with Nic Nat. Since posting have actually swapped Enright for Adcock and Brown for McKenzie. But what are other options for Gilbert. I don't see a lot. Ricky Henderson, Mitch Golby?

Glorin · 08/02/2015 at 09:57
Agree with brown move.It doesn't fix the risk factor of two guys coming off injury. Stick with Gilbert and Waters if your gut agrees. Maybe downgrade Malceski to get a more even spread or go more guns and rooks. Lever might be a cheaper option or whoever Port use to replace Trengrove.
Not saying your selections will not work, as if they come off you will be in box seat. If they both don't work you will have issues all season given their difficult price points. Most people will be going with Waters so if he fails you won't be the only one with the issue. If Gilbert fails you are most likely going to be on your own! Alternatively if he does well you will have a bargain POD. Good luck with it.

Stickman · 08/02/2015 at 12:14
The only thing was last year I decided on a strategy of 9 premo, 7 midpricers and 14 rookies. Last year it saw my rank increase by 50,000 places, so I would like to stick with it again. Don't have my heart set on Gilbert but would like a midpricer who has the potential to score well and make some cash and cannot find a better alternative.

Glorin · 08/02/2015 at 23:52
If it worked, stick with it! Worst case is they both go down and you can paint the fence or trade both down for the cash. Backline is really tough this year and getting it right early will go a long way towards winning the lot.

Stickman · 09/02/2015 at 17:45
Just listened to the podcast and found out Gilbert is injured so need to trade him out anyway now

Ryan · 07/02/2015 at 15:31
Hi Lewy, solid team. A couple of interesting picks, robbie Gray is too expensive, save 50k and get goddard or 130k for swan. Gary's price will go down. Langford is a bit left field, I'd use the money saved from bring in swallow for 500k. But if you see Langford going into the elite category by all means keep him.

GLORIN · 07/02/2015 at 18:20
Langford is a really good pick. Would expect his output to increase this year given his best games of the season were between r19 and GF. Would pick him myself but he doesn't fit in with my gameplan this year.
Cameron is another worth the punt.
Birchall will be a solid pick and should be considered a keeper, don't expect to make money off him.
Lots of midfield POD, but I would probably look at one or 2 more consistant big scorers/ proven guns.
Not sure if Wright will play early/ often enough to fill the R2 postition. If you want a cheap option at R2 I suggest you wait and see who GWS play as their 2nd ruck. ie. Phillips, Lobb, Downie all under $200K, one of them will play.
Given you seem to be going in with a midpricer / potential improver strategy it is a really interesting side and nice to see some different names, but I feel you have a few too many players you are hoping will improve. I count 8 ( not including rookies). If half of them come off you will have done well!

Lewy1243 · 08/02/2015 at 17:27
Could you tell me those 8 so i could replace them? Thanks for your input! Very helphul

Glorin · 08/02/2015 at 23:41
Newnes, Langford, Rich, Kruzer, Christiansen, Adams, Cameron, NVB. Could even throw Swiss in there too as he is unlikely to get a start early in the year, but at least he is under $200k.
Not saying you should remove or swap any of them, I just think these are the players you need to consider what their output will be. IE Christiansen + Adams= $860k @ 160 points compared too
Gray + Steele (40 ave?) =$715k @ 150 points
These are rough estimates and even if the first two increase their output by 10%, the point difference can still be made up by using the $150k saved to upgrade elsewhere and you will make considerably more money off Steele than the others combined.
If all of them come off for you then great, but I would suggest most might get no more than 2-3 a season if they are very lucky and I would rather punt on a rooke/ premo combo.

MightyDonsFC · 07/02/2015 at 23:53
Cowan stiff to miss out

@RyanRhino14 · 07/02/2015 at 16:29
How much money do you have left? Is that Heath Shaw or Rhyce, I don't like the Rohan choice because he's never averaged above 60 so I guess the reasoning to having him is thinking he'll break out

Phil · 07/02/2015 at 22:16
I don't like Breust and Cloke and I'm 50/50 on Mitchell. Mainly because I reckon there is loads of good premiums and value in rookies this year in the Forwards, I wouldn't be wasting any spots there.
Other than that pretty strong, although I'm not sure Seedsman or Whitecross will play Round 1. I'd consider downgrading one or both of them to fund an upgrade of Bruest and Cloke to either Martin, Delidio, Buddy or Goddard.

ken · 08/02/2015 at 01:49
Also have 2k left

Lewy1243 · 08/02/2015 at 17:30
I think that is a fairly solid team, a few could have a change but the consistency of some players are really good choices, one that im not to sure on is Malceski and I wouldnt be considering him to soon, but prove me wrong. Great team

passwords_taco · 07/02/2015 at 23:23
to be honest im good friends with him i believe as he has had his first interrupted pre season in a while and training the house down he will hit the 100 he is going into his prime this year turning 25 also

Glorin · 08/02/2015 at 10:02
Thanks for the insight.Will stick him on my watch list and consider after preseason form. Cheers

Kev · 08/02/2015 at 11:50
G'day Luke, I love that you're trying different strategies but personally I'm not a fan of the rookie midfield. It'll take the best part of two months for them to raise in price (assuming you nail all of them) at which point in time you'll be at the back of pack with a lot of ground to make up.
That said, I'm not saying this is the wrong way to go. Maybe make some cash by downgrading a forward premium to a rookie and getting an extra premium at M4

Kev · 08/02/2015 at 11:41
I'd get rid of Higgins and move mitchell out of your mids and into F4. Your swingsets between mids and fwds will stay open.
Strong M1-5 and I like the O'Brien option at R3

Kev · 08/02/2015 at 11:37
You're one short in the mids, chrisflavel. Hopefully it's a mid premium because NVB shouldn't be at M5. I'm not a fan of Clark's body holding up but that's your call. A good looking team

@emhoy · 08/02/2015 at 10:49
Love your mids very solid team but to much money in the Rucks. Turn Luenberger into a rookie and you can either upgrade Adams or Henderson.
I have been looking at Henderson would love to know what the community thinks about him for our teams this year. I have Docherty as my D4 but have been looking at Henderson.

shezza · 08/02/2015 at 15:16
I did that initially but think Hendersen can average 80-90 and think Adams will average 90+.my main concern is with rucks. Locked and loaded and no trades wasted. I wasted 4 trades last year which is a waste. Obviously like most of us, I’ll keep my eye out in nab pre season.

@pluggers_guts · 11/02/2015 at 02:19
Not much left in the kitty there mate

Glorin · 08/02/2015 at 11:23
Another brave selection. Hard price but has potential to improve and can pump out big scores. Don't think he will increase enough to be a serious cash generator or be in the top 6 defenders at seasons end, but as a POD he could win a few league games.

Stickman · 09/02/2015 at 18:18
Great team, really enjoy the midfield. I think Shaw is a safe bet than Simpson this year though, that extra cash in the downgrade you could upgrade cox to Nankervis as he is more likely for game time this year.

Beau · 10/02/2015 at 21:25
Nice team, good balance with some POD selections – Duncan is a great selection in the midfield, finished last season strong, capable of large SC scores, only issue is every now and then goes missing, hopefully another year older will stop that happening. Whitecross I'm not sure about, maybe another geelong player could fill the void in Smedts – another "training the house down article" http://www.geelongcats.com.au/news/2015-02-09/det… – at least one to watch in NAB.

Captain Awesome · 08/02/2015 at 15:27
Forgot to write in J Selwood. He’s in the mid also

Danners16 · 10/02/2015 at 13:30
Hi T-Dog, nice team although, very weak forward line maybe upgrade Saad to a premo, Beams to NVB might be wise with the stacked forward and midfield at Brisbane. Risky going in with 3 elite premiums with the round 12 bye.

Walto69 · 10/02/2015 at 04:51
Backlines going to be a tricky one this year given all the players who are hits or misses. Birchall is a better choice then Hurn although he can burn you. I put Higgins in only because i feel at a new club, he'll be better but his another hit or miss. Simpson i'd put over Hurn or even Hodge who is only 492k.
Everything else looks pretty good mate, Bellchambers is a worry though and Mitchell can be good but the be careful of selection. Remember last year he had something like 56 touches and couldn't get a game.
Lewis is good but can get someone better around his price like Heppell, Murphy, Dangerfield who cost less then him.

Beau · 10/02/2015 at 21:48
personally I'm not worried about players stealing points from other player, history has heaps of guns in the same team (Pendles and Beams, Selwood and Johnson, half of Sydney 😉 etc, I think its the midpricers that suffer more (especially with consistency) in team with a handful of guns – I have no stats to back up that claim, just a hunch – whereas I think the rookies benefit from being in stronger teams.
With the byes I'm not worried at this stage unless my team is really lopsided e.g. 4 players on the field in a single line with the same bye would be too much. I think a combination of trades / DPPs and only needing 18 scorers makes it less of a concern than picking the right players regardless of their bye position in my view.

Stickman · 10/02/2015 at 21:52
Cheers Beau have a 6-14-9 bye split and was getting a bit worried.

UpAndAbout · 08/02/2015 at 19:39
Martin not Marin 🙂

Grizz · 08/02/2015 at 22:23
Looks very good! For mine, missing one elite in the guts and slightly too heavy in the fwds, but each to their own…… good luck!

Grizz · 08/02/2015 at 22:21
Hey squawking, interesting team! Personally I wouldnt leave God out at the start, he nornally smashes the start of the year! Lumumba is an interesting one…. will all depend where Roosey will play him. Im keeping away from Dusty this year…. underachieved for mine last year, which I dont want to tolerate this year. Hope you get the 5 elites your looking for throughout… injuries might come back to bite you on that one. Like wines, think he is going to excel this year. How much you got left in the bank?

Squawking_Hawk · 08/02/2015 at 23:00
Grizz
Thanks for the comments I have $76k left in the bank. I agree with the Ablett conundrum, just don't know what's going to happen with confidence in his shoulder and how ease will play him. Am hoping pendles, danger, Fyfe will do enough to cover early captain scores.

Jay · 09/02/2015 at 12:49
Slightly light in the forward line if H. Goodard is F4!
Love the midfield – couple of nice PoDs in Libba and Priddis. Priddis is a bit overs for mine, but a solid pick none the less!!

Squawking_Hawk · 09/02/2015 at 19:21
Grizz
Nice team mate, I like the POD selection of Nicholls in the ruck. Would question Libba now that the tag could almost certainly go to him with griffin gone.

Stickman · 09/02/2015 at 00:26
Like the team need to get Gaz in there though or you will regret. Don't agree with Hibberd at that price tag has never really proved his worth I think Shaw as he has averaged over the 90 the past 9 years. My other concern is Lewis who really has only had one premium quality season so far. I think Jobe Watson is a better and safer pick as well as being cheaper.

Jay · 09/02/2015 at 12:42
I think Scharenberg is still recovering from ACL – dont think he'll play this early in season…..Other than that, love the team:
Maybe a bit light up forward…could definitely look at spending that 165k and upgrade one of the rookies in the FWD line…

toppa01 · 09/02/2015 at 14:52
Thanks for the feed back jay, I'll look in it

Jay · 09/02/2015 at 12:45
Waters and Whitecross in the BAC – I was considering the same, but decided to only take the punt on one of them! You could consider to downgrade one of them to a rookie and use that cash (along with the 146k you have remaining) to upgrade NVB

Danners16 · 10/02/2015 at 13:26
Nice team, I would watch where Higgins plays in the NAB challenge though

Jimmy Joe · 09/02/2015 at 20:20
Also what about a Wines vs Heppell for M5??

Stickman · 09/02/2015 at 22:46
If you have the funds I would go for Heppell as M5. Watson should get more game time this year, which will lead to him being tagged less. Just my two cents.

Stickman · 09/02/2015 at 22:42
Ablett M1 makes perfect sense. I would prefer Pendlebury as M2. Pendlebury has been more consistent with only 1 score below 90 in the past 2 years whilst Fyfe has dropped below 6 times. Another reason is Fyfe has never played a full season without getting suspended or injured. And lastly, he scored a lot from key moments in the game and they have cut the scores received from key moments this year. But go with your gut.

Danners16 · 11/02/2015 at 13:13
A nice different team, Bewick is probably too risky, might want to strengthen up your defence a bit. Key forwards like Lynch can be very inconsistent so I probably wouldn't be starting with him

Rhino · 25/02/2015 at 20:53
Cheers mate. Was thinking Bewick after Pearce-off Hanley went down. Either Bewick/Mayes to fill the role? Will watch pre season with interest. Fair call on Lynch. Searching for this year's Gray/Parker in forward line. More likely they'll be in the backline this year.

Danners16 · 10/02/2015 at 13:32
Hi mate, nice team, keep an eye where Higgins plays in the preseason though

Beau · 10/02/2015 at 20:58
Just read on AFL website that leuey is only taking part in 2 out of 3 training sessions in preseason to manage his workload. Not sounding good, especially with Martin playing so well, could be much less TOG or a lot more resting up fwd this year for him.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-02-10/less-is-mor…

Lewy1243 · 11/02/2015 at 11:10
My thoughts are that the team is brilliant! The only negative to your team is the bye rounds, you might struggle then, so try and even it out. Apart from that, the team looks excellent

Benny JJ · 10/02/2015 at 13:48
Docherty POD, 3rd year this year. trajectory is on the right path. Can move up the ground and kick goals.
Wells, surprised more people arent looking at him as a viable option in the midfield. Quite underpriced.

ando · 13/02/2015 at 22:31
Cooney is a risk I won’t be taking for the rest of my life. His brownlow days are over. Says running cotchin 🙂

Beau · 10/02/2015 at 20:52
Assume you mean C Beams in the FWD line?
I guess you have to weigh up is it better to have $400K in the bank and 6 rookies in the mids, or is it better to upgrade 1 of them to a mid pricer you like the look of? I doubt there's going to be 6 mid rookies all looking the goods at round 1. Especially if you're going for overall points you need the money on the field and make adjustments before round 3 price changes. Just my 2 cents.

Danners16 · 11/02/2015 at 13:11
Great team DL you might of heard about Waters injury maybe keeping him out of the NAB Challenge, 4 elite premiums in the midfield with the Round 12 bye may also be a problem

DL123 · 11/02/2015 at 18:48
Cheers Danners, i have tinkered a little bit as deledio and waters both injured have made a few changes accordingly

Beau · 10/02/2015 at 21:14
Interesting with the stacked mids, I guess in past seasons it seems a fwd or def rookie might get you 60 points a week which is not bad but a mid rookie might get 80-90 points a week. Not such a big deal points-wise as you make up for it with the guns in the midfield, but it hurts you're ability to make cash quickly from rookies to upgrade them as soon as possible. Not sure if that's an immovable truth of Supercoach or just the logic I'm working with! 😉
Of course the extra bench mid rookie will help this year, but its all relative to the other teams in the comp and they will all have 1 extra mid rookie slot as well.

@castlemanj · 11/02/2015 at 09:02
Liking Nicholls in the ruck a lot… Big risk in terms of amount of time on the field, but could really pay off. Massive POD, can really score well when fit. Watch his preseason (and Zac Smith's!) closely…
The forward line is pretty thin, that could get you into a fair bit of trouble if the risky players (basically your F3 through to F6) don't fire early. Bear in mind that Garlett and Membrey haven't been big scorers in the past and Clark hasn't played for a long time.
Mids stacked, obviously – Personally I'd baulk at the idea of having a $200K+ player (basically a midpricer) forced onto the bench when there are so many promising midfield rookie prospects this year.
Backline looks pretty typical of the kind of structure most are going with this year, should serve you reasonably well.

nick · 10/02/2015 at 23:12
dump waters he is gone for the year hurt his shoulder again tonight

Caz · 10/02/2015 at 21:18
No worries, thinking of walters down to salem and using the money elsewhere. Won't change too much at the moment until I've seen the players in the nab cup. Thnx for the advice.

nick · 10/02/2015 at 23:07
might have get rid of waters he be gone for the season again his shoulder went on him again

nick · 10/02/2015 at 23:10
and beau don't start with Daniel menziel on the bench as he wont play to round 9 maybe after the byes as scott wont rush him back as soon as he is back use him as a downgrade upgrade option etc

skindog · 10/02/2015 at 23:45
Nick, might want to lay off the cookies son?? downgrade upgrade?? your forward line??? go talk to mummy!!

Beau · 11/02/2015 at 21:14
thanks for the feedback nick

skindog · 10/02/2015 at 23:40
really dude?? forwards are bad!!!! cant help but feel your taking the wee

nick · 11/02/2015 at 01:40
well I am taking a punt on wait if it pays of for me I be laughing all the way I think nick roo can still have a massive impact with big marks and goals franklin is a gun and I know most people are going delido and goddard but I would not touch those players with a ten foot pole they have burnt me so bad in the past

Lewy1243 · 11/02/2015 at 11:02
Have you thought about the byes? I would wait for bald god to go down and maybe go with some more rookies who will make you some cash. As it is your kitty is low

Danners16 · 11/02/2015 at 13:10
At the moment Seedsman is injured so Higgins

Ruffles · 11/02/2015 at 18:35
Also, Higgins is definitely best 22 whereas not sure about Seedsman (though he would be there abouts).

Ethan · 12/02/2015 at 08:30
i dont think ryder can be as effective as he has been as i see him playing second fiddle to lobbe

Omen · 12/02/2015 at 21:39
I think you’re right God. Don’t doubt your self.

Ethan · 12/02/2015 at 08:35
wouldnt go lumumba hasnt averaged over 90 in any season plus isnt a regular 100+scorer. Callum Ward maybe a bit of a risk, seeing how there are so many good midfielders around him Could cop a tag from time to time. Im not a big fan of buddy in supercoach just based off his consistancy,

seaford scouse · 13/02/2015 at 19:52
GAJ averaged 147 in the first 8 rounds last year Lewy next closest was StevieJ with 125, regardless of price that's a big difference to absorb, Priddis did 101 so may need some luck there!
Frawley being ripped is hardly an endorsement to pick him in this caper, likely to play a negating role to free up others, id look elsewhere.
.better options than swallow available I would watch toumpas in nab before committing.
3kpfs is too many lots of upsmand downs there and where the rucks that other line, its completely missing mate!

Lewy1243 · 15/02/2015 at 15:59
Nic Nat and Kreuzer are my rucs with Downie on the bench
Fair enough mate, will implement that into my team

Rad · 11/02/2015 at 21:14
Fogot to mention:
* have $44K left in bank
* avg score 1980
* Consistent bye round coverage with Bye R11 10 players out, R12 9 players, R13 10 players.

Ethan · 12/02/2015 at 08:36
way too many 500k+ players in the midfield, would be more benificial if you invest them in the def and forwards

Rad · 13/02/2015 at 22:11
Thanks for the comment Nathan.
What's the rationale for gaining points in fwd or def instead of midfield?

Ethan · 12/02/2015 at 08:37
Dont go nathan brown thats about it, Ryder can be traded for someone like goddard or delideo who are cheaper and more proven
Zain cordy got an injury so dont expect him to play

Matt · 13/02/2015 at 21:24
Thanks

Ethan · 12/02/2015 at 08:44
I dont rate lumumba,
not a great selection of rookies. Unlikely peter wright will play round 1, same with darcy moore. other than that its pretty good

PJ8 · 14/02/2015 at 12:07
DEF and MID too weak. Take a FWD out and get Whitecross to D5 at least and get a better M5 than Rich

Mitch17 · 14/02/2015 at 13:11
Ok thanks pj8 do you have any ideas of what players to take out and which ones o could get I was thinking take out swan but not sure which players to bring in ?

Mitch17 · 14/02/2015 at 13:16
Or maybe Gray cause his a bit expensive or franklin cause his inconsistent or swan cause his old ?

PJ8 · 14/02/2015 at 13:25
Personally it would be Gray or Franklin out for me, for someone like T.Mitchell. Clurey out for someone like Newnes and then upgrade Rich for a gun $600k+ MID

Mitch17 · 14/02/2015 at 15:19
Ok thanks mate this is the team I went for feeling good about it
Def. Simpson B.Smith Hodge Newnes Clurey H.Goddard Bench Dick McKenzie
Mid. Ablett Fyfe Selwood A. Swallow Rich Van Berlo Boekhorst Laverde Bench. Vandenberg Freeman Krakouer
Rucks. Naitanui Kreuzer. Bench. Durdin
For. Deleido B.Goddard Franklin. Swan. Garlett. Hogan. Bench. Clark. Saad.
11k in the bank

Dools · 14/02/2015 at 13:23
Hi Mitch
Hannerbury, Rich, Van Berlo to me are not on ATM Pick one
Lose Selwood replace with Dependleberry for the time being. Go skinny in Def if you can ie more playing Rookies /Wookies but I love the Clurey, Goddard, Dick, and Mckenzie picks. Whitecross is not at this time in Hawks Best 22 IMHO . Try and fit in Newnes (St Kilda Mid/Def) Just to see your shape and structures….Delids is under a slight injury clould. Bellchambers Ding Dong , Flush him mate he is the Higennnnesessss of Ruc Fwd combos ..Some encouraging News from W Coast regarding Lycett if you have to go with Fwd/Ruc combo but it is not important to have all DPP in your squad a the start (I'm Geelong supporter and I m not a fan of Clark who has not played top tier footy in near on 2 plus years)
These are just opinions mate if your happy with it hold fast !

Mitch17 · 14/02/2015 at 15:18
Ok thanks mate this is the team I went for feeling good about it
Def. Simpson B.Smith Hodge Newnes Clurey H.Goddard Bench Dick McKenzie
Mid. Ablett Fyfe Selwood A. Swallow Rich Van Berlo Boekhorst Laverde Bench. Vandenberg Freeman Krakouer
Rucks. Naitanui Kreuzer. Bench. Durdin
For. Deleido B.Goddard Franklin. Swan. Garlett. Hogan. Bench. Clark. Saad.
11k in the bank

WombatsFC · 14/02/2015 at 21:11
Hi Mitch, 4 rookie/wookie backs is too many, plus what everybody else said.

Mitch17 · 15/02/2015 at 01:00
Ok wombats thanks many Clurey upgrade him to maybe Whitecross ?

trent · 13/02/2015 at 20:20
with $168,700 left in the bank

PJ8 · 14/02/2015 at 12:12
Not bad, the only thing i would do is only have one of Swallow or Steven. Downgrade one of your D1-D3 to a mid pricer that you think will breakout and up grade one of those mids to another $600k premo mid

PJ8 · 14/02/2015 at 12:14
Solid line up. Like the Lewis, Greene, Walters selections as they will all be PODs. Hopefully they can average more than the others for you.

PJ8 · 14/02/2015 at 12:19
In order:
Good (Cheaper for same output potentially)
Good
Bad (Waters injured, but wouldn't pick Roberton anyway)
Bad (think Barlow will average more than Murphy)
Good
Good (cheaper for same output potentially)
Bad (Mitchell should breakout this year, hopefully)
Then go with Daniel and Clark, instead of Krakour and Lamb

Stickman · 14/02/2015 at 12:33
Thanks, if not Roberton who else would be a suitable D4? Gilbert, Rohan, Ibbotson are all too expensive to fit. Can now not afford to get Barlow as M4 or Mitchell as F4 eventhough also believe that he is a better choice. Will swap lamb to daniel but will be over cap space for any of the others.

PJ8 · 14/02/2015 at 13:10
Yeah its just a matter of jumping around to get the best you can, if you can't get your preferred selections you want the alternatives you have mentioned are useful.

Stickman · 14/02/2015 at 13:42
Cheers mate, just was hoping more changes would improve the team rather than the opposite.

PJ8 · 14/02/2015 at 12:20
Some different picks there mate, but don't like a some of them.
Thompson, Pavlich and Petracca

PJ8 · 14/02/2015 at 12:00
DEF: Defiantly as you said some different picks, Defence will be seen as a 'money saver' line so these selections could work for you.
MID: Strong, but i wouldn't waste a valuable MID spot on Swan, if you want him get him FWD.
RUC: $300k is too much to have on your bench and won't score you points.
FWD: Solid.

David · 14/02/2015 at 12:44
I picked Swan in the Mids as my swingman for the first part of the season…..he will go forward as soon as I upgrade….I thought it gave me flexibility….happy to be corrected if that is an error.

PJ8 · 14/02/2015 at 13:05
Defiantly no error. More just my rule. MID is the bulk scoring area and for me i don't like to use up a mid premo spot with a DPP. Your plan may work for you.

WombatsFC · 14/02/2015 at 21:30
Hi David, there's a very good reason that you see certain names appear in every second team, not picking those recognised performers purely because they are popular is suicide. That theory would validate this scenario 'everybody has Gaz and/or Pendle so I wont have pendle or Gaz' .
Unless Krakouer is upgraded you have at least 1 donut in the middle coz Heeney and Boekhorst will not play Rnd 1,2 unless Swans and Blues lose 2 established midfielders each before round 1

Dools · 14/02/2015 at 22:43
Hi Mate whats happinin mate??

WombatsFC · 15/02/2015 at 10:12
Dools Mate, where have you been?

PJ8 · 14/02/2015 at 13:19
Good PODs, just feel your short in the MID, would look better with Rich at M6 but then you lose somewhere else, maybe one of the Rucks to Berger.
Don't like Lumumba. Think Rampe, Docherty, and Hampton would be better value

DL123 · 14/02/2015 at 13:48
Defense solid, although not sure about Rampe, I'd be looking in the NAB to see where he plays and the potential output in that position.
Mids are great but too many r12 byes. better output from cheaper options then brayshaw imo.
Rucks are honestly terrible. you will be lucky to get 100 points in your ruck and thats generous. you need to fit in someone decent for read.
forwards is solid, almost too solid. consider gray down to t.mitchell or cheaper along with the brayshaw downgrade to afford a kreuzer/leuey

WombatsFC · 14/02/2015 at 21:23
Locky mate are you for real?
Brayshaw, Heeney, Boekhorst, Walsh will definately NOT play round 1,2,3 without massive injuries to their relevant teams

DL123 · 14/02/2015 at 13:54
Really solid team mate well done.
Acres is risky, unproven and better options in the mids??
all lines solid! if acres is the only criticism its a good team haha

Ben · 14/02/2015 at 14:08
Thanks mate, may decide to go van berlo instead of Acres for approximately the same price

WombatsFC · 14/02/2015 at 21:17
1 too many rookie/wookies in the middle/back and fwd.

WombatsFC · 14/02/2015 at 21:19
I'm also confident Hampton will go above 80 but you have too many on field rookies

WombatsFC · 14/02/2015 at 21:15
Better to start with weak FWD or DEF. the MID is where all the big points are

WombatsFC · 14/02/2015 at 21:14
Not much better than your previous version mate you have at least 1 donut in the middle and are paying way too much for your forwards. Both Delidio and Buddy are complaining about injuries that they had last year recurring already and neither are in full training yet

Mitch17 · 15/02/2015 at 01:41
Ok wombats no worries I made a few changes what about this team
Def. Burgyone B.Smith Shaw Newnes Whitecross Goddard s.Edwards Mckenzie
Mid Ablett Fyfe Selwood Wines Swallow Van Berlo T.Miller Laverde Freeman Steele Krakouer
Ruck Naitanui Kreuzer Read
For. Martin Goddard Zorko Swan Clark Hogan Saad Daniel thoughts please mate ?

WombatsFC · 15/02/2015 at 10:02
That looks real good Mitch.

Mitch17 · 15/02/2015 at 10:11
Alright cheers wombats thanks for your help mate I’ve only got 500 dollars left so yeah see how my players go in nab cup

Ronan · 14/02/2015 at 19:40
jack steven

ThemightyJrods · 15/02/2015 at 17:22
Steven easily

WombatsFC · 14/02/2015 at 21:09
Hi Tiim ,interesting team.
Gray, either put him forward and get a real 110+ mid or don't have him at all. Ollie is a good replacement.
I think you've spent too much on defenders and not enough on Mids
Hibberd is a risk due to tissue paper hamstrings plus Hirdys brainfade and Deledio is being 'managed' through training already so probably only expect maximums of 90ish from him.

throttlefinger · 14/02/2015 at 23:04
Would disagree with the esteemed Wombats re: Lids. 90s would be the lows you would get from him. Not a chance he averages that. Should average 105+ if played in same half forward role. Check his last 7 games from 2014. Proof in the pudding. Being managed and having a strain or worse are two different animals, so no need for concern. Lids hasn't missed many games and even with injury last season, returned to go ton in his last 7.
But agree with Wombat's assessment in the other areas.

WombatsFC · 15/02/2015 at 10:06
A player being managed in the preseason for an injury that occurred early in the previous year is a VERY ominous sign. Obviously the condition IS NOT self repairing and logic says that it will only get worse without intervention. Paying top dollar for that sort of player is high risk.

throttlefinger · 15/02/2015 at 10:10
He's been managed the last two preseasons so far from ominous. And again, came back from injury and went big. Achilles has been his issue. Not traveling with the team is much ado about nothing, Wombats. Couple other players didn't go as well (including Dusty). Bottom line, the player of his caliber at forward is still a very good deal.
Also being managed now instead of NAB is a good preventive move. Plenty of practice time left until the season starts.

WombatsFC · 15/02/2015 at 10:26
I don't recall him going big at all last year. Wasn't his ave below 110+

throttlefinger · 15/02/2015 at 10:34
That's ok. Oversight on your part. Rd17-24. 118 ave. Always look toward the players that end strong.

WombatsFC · 15/02/2015 at 10:57
I agree strong finish is nice but when you're paying premium price for an ave of only 92 in the first 16 rounds it is a bust. Run his pre round 17 season through the Womatron (where games not played equal a donut) and his first 16 weeks only averaged 63.8 Still assert that he constitutes a massive risk for premo dollar

throttlefinger · 15/02/2015 at 11:05
"Massive" risk is a bit much. Every premo not named Gaz and Pendles is a risk. That much has been proven.
Also his first 16 was when Hardwick fussing with the lineup. When Lids went up to half forward (and Miles taking his mid role), that's when the good scores came. Should be little reason he won't start at the position again. Between the lines read is needed to get the potential. Remember the Womatron was not keen on JPK last season. Every system has their blind spots.

throttlefinger · 15/02/2015 at 11:10
Point being, not making the trip other is far from ominous as say, getting a strain or being left out of intraclub. Plenty of time to R1 so why take risks when it's not necessary? After all, it's a very rough sport, Wombats.

WombatsFC · 15/02/2015 at 11:19
My point was between the lines.
He is currently at his peak price for 2015
He is carrying an injury and will again be rested during the season, whether that rest is in the shape of red vests or days off doesn't really matter.
He also shares the round 11 bye with a lot of genuine all-season premo's. the smart decision would be to wait until he drops to sub 450k about round 14-15.
2014 JPK Wombatron omission was calculated brilliance. It allowed me to slot in an extra mid gun (Ollie) and also stopped me wasting 550k plus on a nuffa who couldn't ave above 101 for the final third of the season. It was the season starting move that saw me 500 points clear atop the throttledome ladder at seasons end.
JPK Wombatron ave for final third was 71.7 and he sank many.

throttlefinger · 15/02/2015 at 11:34
Your first two points are speculative thus not worth countering. The injury and rested again theory is fairly laughable since that's not what happened last season. Can say the opposite (and would bet that mine has a better chance of coming true given his history).
Which forward premo are you speaking of? Zorko? Yeah. Not any big R11 bye premos in forward line. Yes, watching premiums drop is the plan. I'm planning on doing the same with Rocky. It's a good strategy overall with most prems as few can keep their initial price and make the buffalo jump.
Yes, that worked for you last year with Wines. Was a brilliant move. But JPK gave me more pleasure than pain last season.

WombatsFC · 15/02/2015 at 11:44
Evidence that sleep deprivation does effect the human mind.

throttlefinger · 15/02/2015 at 12:35
First step is admitting the problem. Very proud of you.

Dools · 15/02/2015 at 13:52
LOL TF and Wombats my 2 cents
Delids is not in my team neither is Dusty or Cotchin
However JPK is M6 as is Gray as F1 ATM .
All things being speculative but Defence is where our choices will make or break us Newnes is my most expensive and I'm toying with Suthcliff (Freo) as my D2 over Ibbottson ATM. Am I mad orj ust Fridge inspired I don't know PS Hampton has me excited
TIIM pick one risk per line NVB or Rich in Mids same same in Forward line . This statagy allows you to go cheap in Def and pick up defenders as they appear in the season
Good to see your back up on line Wombats and solid stuff from TF

throttlefinger · 15/02/2015 at 17:02
Hey Dools. Good to hear from you.
Going small ball in the back as well. But after reading Ocker's spreadsheet, leaning on Harbrow over Newnes. Hampton as my D2. KK, Seedsman and LukeMcD in mix. Lot of players on watch in NAB after that.
Lids is not on my team ATM. May pick Dusty over him. Swan is F3.
Lot of Blues on my squad.

Dools · 15/02/2015 at 19:49
Newnes is on every team this is good for very obvious reasons it's either right or wrong but if more then 70% of teams have him theirs it is no loss.
L. McDonald is on my squad also TF but seedsman is out due to surgery I m sure

throttlefinger · 15/02/2015 at 21:10
Why do you keep saying that about Seedsman, Dools? He's not out and his hip has been fine. He has a precautionary procedure that won't affect his training. Unless there's a setback, he'll be playing in NAB.
Newnes is a wait and see. Given leadership role which sometimes has adverse effect. Last year was first big year for him. On bottom 4 so he needs to come out like raging bull to be considered. Harbrow will have an easier time of it.

Dools · 15/02/2015 at 21:53
hi tf do you really think that Newnes is not an option? And Seedsman has Not had Hip Surgery??? Harbrow??? ok mate time to take a time out bar (full of stuuffff from a reputable firm that has the consumers concerns at heart)
LOL

throttlefinger · 15/02/2015 at 21:58
Newnes is option. Far from lock. Think Harbrow has more upside given his numbers (Ocker's sheet helped spell that out for me). Seedsman has had surgery but is training and is on track to play NAB/R1. Like all, wait and see.
Going back 'n' forth with starting Shaw at D1 or Newnes/Harbrow. Leaning towards keeping ave spend on defs to under $270K. Too much uncertainty.
Enjoy your evening, my friend.

TIIIM · 20/02/2015 at 09:20
cheers for the advice fellas
made a few changes
deledio out
robbie gray in to forwars
marc murphy into mids

Mitch17 · 15/02/2015 at 01:45
Or this team Ok wombats no worries I made a few changes what about this team
Def. Burgyone B.Smith Shaw Newnes Clurey Goddard s.Edwards Mckenzie
Mid Ablett Fyfe Selwood Wines Swallow Van Berlo Vandenberg Laverde Freeman Steele Krakouer
Ruck Naitanui Kreuzer Read
For. Deleido Goddard Franklin Swan Clark Hogan Saad Daniel

Omen · 15/02/2015 at 15:53
Mid field is over done, so naturally all other lines look weak.
Tone it down in MID and pump up FWD and DEF.
e.g. Take only one of Rocky or Pendles. Take only one of Lewis/Griffin/Stevens.
That leaves you with 5 premiums in the middle instead of 7. Grab the best mid rookies you can get (wait for Rd1 teams) cause they'll make you the most money.
Grab an extra premium in your other lines.
Its a pretty simple game really.

NoDikHeadPolicy · 15/02/2015 at 16:08
Great thanks Omen – what are your thoughts on the fact that the mids are just locked away for the season – no need to try and trade them in during the year?
Def is anyone's guess this year so expect there wont be a huge number of players in the 70-80 bracket (which I'm hoping Jones/ Goddard will be in) meaning only losing 10 pts a game for those two picks but having Rocky and Griffen could make me 40+ above a rookie mid meaning i'm up overall 60 points across the four positions?
Am considering losing Stevens for another rookie and upgrading a FWD rookie to a $450-500k keeper.

Aldon · 16/02/2015 at 18:08
think bye rounds

DL123 · 15/02/2015 at 19:03
Simo
Deledio (if fit, at the moment achilles issues)
Franklin (him and tippett both fit and he plays much better with tip in the side)

Dools · 15/02/2015 at 19:43
Mitch 17 How do you feel
Needing help ??? Your team should not be a team by consensus, that just guarantees mediocrity.
Wombat and Quite a few others have helped …Listen to them. Make a pick, back your pick live with it until you trade

Mitch17 · 15/02/2015 at 20:21
Ok thanks DL123 appreciate it mate

Mitch17 · 15/02/2015 at 20:26
And yeah dools I just want others opinions on players and I know they have been helping me a lot and everyone else has to just only concerns are that I have zorko had Martin who weren’t consistent but franklin and Deleido were and I had Burgyone buy everyone saying don’t get him his to old get Simpson so I don’t mate but your right ill just live it the team I have and see how they go in nab cup

Dools · 15/02/2015 at 22:02
Mitch,
Who said Simpson is too old ??? Ageism will be a massive POD This year . Bourgogne is a massive POD, Newnes is not a POD as most teams have him in…Same for Delids , Martin, Zorko …Nothing wrong with the picks, if they are correct but Nothing wrong if you don't have 'em either..There is nothing written down that I am right and you are not
back your self mate

Mitch17 · 16/02/2015 at 01:26
Sorry dools I meant Burgyone being old not Simpson and yes I’m aware of the pod players and they could have break out season and then they can’t so ill just see how there form goes in the nab cup and see what happens from there

Ol Mont · 16/02/2015 at 18:50
majak

Matt · 16/02/2015 at 17:53
I got $7.6k left

Ethan · 17/02/2015 at 08:53
Kreuzer got injured
Brown should only be a last resort if you have no rookies

Omen · 17/02/2015 at 22:41
Backline looks like a (gentle) train wreck – invest more in this line.
Overspend in the midfield and still full of mid-pricers – move Mitchell to FWD if you want to keep him. Convert adams/toumpas to add at least another proven premium and a rookie.
No need to keep so much in the bank.

heath kingham · 18/02/2015 at 13:44
thanks Omen – updated to
DEF – burgoyne, newnes, mayes, k koladjashnij, whitecross, n brown (H Goddard, Viojo Rainbow)
MID – ablett, rockliff, pendles, wines, van berlo, biggs, cockatoo, heeney (boekhorst, Laverde, Freeman)
ruck – Naitanui, leuenberger (cox)
fwd – deledio, b goddard, ryder, swan, t mitchell, membrey (hogan, c daniel)
only 75k left now
i feel like defence doenst have much options – and gambling on kola to be a cash cow from playing on wing – whitecross and brown coming back from injury should bank money as well

Brandon · 18/02/2015 at 15:39
Defence is hard in 2015, go with your gut feeling but here is my advice
Borgoyne: seemed lazy in patches in 2014 and his age is a worry. Upgrade him to Smith/Simpson/Shaw as these guys are more common, and there is less downside in selecting them.
Mayes: Can get ibbotson for a similar price, or even rohan for cheaper
N Brown: SC Paige has no clue, ignore her advice. She is boost about collingwood. Brown is a waste of time. Cannot crack anymore than 50 Average and will get you nowhere. Downgrade to a rookie
Midfield: SET AND FORGET. Only advice is drop rockliff and get fyfe/selwood. Rockliff will go down and will be cheaper at a later stage, having said that could be a nice POD
RUCKS: liking the ryder swing with cox, good work!
FORWARDS: Similar forward to mine. Am i the only SC who has Robbie Gray? he was my first selected player (Ablett doesn't count). He is a must for 2015 with Port on the rise
Deledio has injury clouds, and his age is a worry with injury problems. Martin will have a career best year!

Cat fan · 19/02/2015 at 18:03
waters retired

Pattttt · 19/02/2015 at 18:21
So I've heard!!
In light of the news, I've changed my team config around. Would you like to let me know your thoughts?
DEF:
L Hodge H Shaw J Newnes
C Hampton B Whitecross S Edwards
(H Goddard D V Rainbow)
Mid
G Ablett S Pendles N Fyfe T Mitchell
O Wines M Whiley N van Berlo B Boekhorst
(R Atkins N Freeman K Lambert)
RUCKS
N Naitanui P Ryder
(M Cox)
FWD
B Deledio L Franklin D Swan
M Walters M Clark J Hogan
(C Daniel N Krakouer)

Brandon · 18/02/2015 at 15:31
good starting point
DEFENCE: Fisher has had injury troubles and for his price you can do better with a downgrade, or upgrade to a proven premium. Someone like heath shaw, who is a popular pick this year is less of a risk, and will have greater reward.
Waters is a toss up at this stage, you could potentially upgrade to rohan if he crashes before rd 1
MIDFEILD: Rich, although he has been given heaps of hype from jock and the community steer clear!!! for half the price you can grab a rookie like Biggs who has almost cemented himself in the doggies best 22, and with griffen leaving this only increases his chances of getting a game
RUCK: I had hickey last year. Showed much promise until he got injured. With a good pre season he could be a good selection. Potentially a downgrade to bellchambers/leuenberger/giles could save you cash to upgrade dahlhaus in the forward
FORWARDS: I also had Dahlhaus last year and he cost me my league. Although consistent 100-80 ish, he failed to go big when i needed it! You could potentially get Tom Mitchell or Michael walters who are both cheaper and will give you a bigger ceiling, as well and more cash. Possibly Dusty would be a good F2, i have him and I'm expecting big things, you heard it first!!!!!!!
ROOKIES: don't look into them now, its pointless and NAB Challenge hasn't started
Hopefully this helps

Pattttt · 18/02/2015 at 15:42
Thanks for your tips and advice Brandon. Very much appreciated.
I've taken on board what you've said and I've changed:
Fisher –> Shaw
Hickey –> McIntosh
Dalhuas –> Walters (As I already have Mitchell)
Thoughts?
I think my concern is my ruckman in McIntosh….
Not sure how I feel about Leunberger or Bellchambers. And I had Giles for a little period last year and he was mediocre so not his biggest fan.

Brandon · 18/02/2015 at 15:47
Rich is my only concern for you, Its all about making cash to get that premium midfield. I just can't see it coming from rich. You will make more cash somewhere else!
Mcintosh is the ruck man from 2 seasons ago!, bellchambers or leuenberger is the way to go in my opinion
if you need more cash, downgrade your lower priced mids, like I've said there is cash with cheap rookies (Heeney and Boekherst who you don't have either of)

Cat fan · 19/02/2015 at 18:01
waters out retired

Brandon · 21/02/2015 at 17:56
Yeah have no brought in Jamie Mcmillan, who is my POD, and roll of the dice down back

KRileyS · 18/02/2015 at 21:57
Rance is a strange D1?
He has averaged 85 points +1 for every year for four years, so he might average 90 odd by that logic
but at 470,000 as your number 1 defender, you are better off going a running mid to set and forget to rack up your backs points and free you up to make risks like Ibbots or Rohan
And I'd stick Lids in your forward and chuck out Martin and use his money in the middle,
If you are worried about DPP's being uneven, remember you can move them to swap into a spot when you trade somebody else out! no need to have mid/fwd in both the mid and fwd.

Blueprime · 22/02/2015 at 03:31
R Henderson

Blueprime · 22/02/2015 at 03:24
Newnes

PJ8 · 20/02/2015 at 15:14
Mud,
DEF: I wouldn't be choosing Goodes. Wait to see which rookies are named.
MID: Solid.
RUC: NicNat is good, I'm just worried that you have no back up for Berger. At this stage no rookie Rucks will play so you may need Ryder or Bellchambers up FWD to switch in for the injury prone Berger.
FWD: Solid, could turn one of them into a FWD/RUC and you wouldn't lose much.

General Soreness · 20/02/2015 at 16:26
Agree with PJ – Goodes is rookie listed, needs and upgrade and is probably last on the list.
I do not necessarily confirm to the ruc insurance option, but I would be inclined to save some fwd $ or def $ and upgrade berger into a Premo and have Dog Dog at R2.

General Soreness · 20/02/2015 at 16:27
Or use that spare coin to upgrade berger.

Stickman · 21/02/2015 at 19:37
Would have nailed it if you weren't $237,100 over the salary cap

Rick · 22/02/2015 at 13:16
Im not sure what your talking about their stickman. I still have 10k to spare.

MarcoPolo · 21/02/2015 at 17:47
nah i think for that price range there is value to be found elsewhere. i expect 80-90 for those blokes

THE SALTSHAKER · 25/02/2015 at 11:20
S.Mitchell definitely, avg 28d last year with a inj interupted 9sc showed class in GF and international rules match, very similar to Harvey plenty years in tank still. Bargin this year if plays 22 games will hit 600+ disposals again which should be 105+ sc

darlize · 22/02/2015 at 14:22
B.Waters had retired.

DBO · 22/02/2015 at 14:41
who should i pick then ?

yeezy · 22/02/2015 at 14:52
someone that is still playing

DBO · 22/02/2015 at 23:12
whitecross?

Gordo · 22/02/2015 at 14:25
waters has retired

Gordo · 22/02/2015 at 14:02
99,300 would like peoples opinions open to any suggestions

Gordo · 22/02/2015 at 14:24
need to up k brooksby and have cox on your bench in rucks, will be luck to get a game this year only valuable for the dp status and his price.

darlize · 22/02/2015 at 14:35
Thanks who would be a good upgrade for K Brooksby

yeezy · 22/02/2015 at 14:53
think you should use the clear team button mate

frankydudes · 22/02/2015 at 18:13
Leuenberger IMO

frankydudes · 22/02/2015 at 18:17
The backline is a bit weak, I would downgrade Rich to another rookie like Boekhurst and upgrade Edwards/Brown to someone like Henderson. Also watch your rookies if they play NAB i.e. Rainbow, Reas, Laverde, Lamb

KRileyS · 22/02/2015 at 20:15
I'm definitely going to watch my rookies. Thanks man, forgot I could comfortably go down to a rookie with that many premiums already in the mid. Rich was already a downgrade from Griffen so I could up Bellchambers to Nic Nat. I'm not sold on hendo down back though.

frankydudes · 22/02/2015 at 20:50
Cheers man, you could go Hendo or Ibbo. Can you please help me below

luke · 04/03/2015 at 12:44
Way too many r12 bye players

Rio · 04/03/2015 at 18:22
Thanks for pointing that out – I have made changes since I posted this line up (re-posted) – and it did me no favours in the round 12 bye department. Surely I would have cashed in some rookies by then?

Rio · 04/03/2015 at 18:16
Changed since posted:
DEF: Enright, Ibbotson, Whitecross,Lever, Clurey, Goddard. H
(Viojo-Rainbow, McKenzie. D)
MID: Ablett, Rockliff, Pendlebury, Fyfe, Martin. D, Zorko, Burgoyne, Heeney
(Boekhorst, Vandenberg, Laverde)
RUCK: Martin. S, Naitanui
(Bellchambers)
FWD: Goddard. B, Swan, Mitchell. T, Hogan, Steele, Daniel. C
(Read. T, Krakouer. N)

Benny · 04/03/2015 at 20:00
Upgrade Langford to a swallow,crouch or MITCHELL and downgrade ADAMS to salem