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PODCAST: Dreamtime in flapping tarp studios

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Supercoach 2014 podcast

It’s Dreamtime in flapping tarp studio this week.

And asΒ indigenous round comes to a close we reflect upon a magnificent weekend of AFL Fantasy and Supercoach relevance – and the Β blokes that we should be having a look at as we hone in on a massive round 12.

Enjoy this week’s show community. If you haven’t had the chance yet we’d be tickled pink if you could find a few minutes to complete our survey below as well – all about making sure we deliver fantasy relevance moving forward:


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henry

roughy πŸ™

Ernest

Question. Why does so many people have Roughead? His not a premium, his just a fan favourite.
I used to think Dangerfield was overrated but then i woke up and saw how good he was. Is Roughead just popular because he'll score a big score out of the blue? 134 his highest and lowest 41 lol and what he get today? 50? And people give Higgins flack yet at least the guy will score consistently for his price.

Rat

maybe an average of 95+ over the last 3 seasons. I can tell that this is the first year you've played. Don't base judgements just on an 11 game period.

crackman

This year he is playing manly as a permanent forward

Ernest

Also took a risk by getting rid of Enright and putting in Docherty who scored what was it ? 102? The guys played well each game his played this year, yet i was told to pick Burgoyne because his a premium yet only gets 75.
So to sum it up. I traded Enright to Docherty and Hallihan to Parker and now i've switched Dangefield in the middle and Parker in the FWD, not only giving me a midfield/forward switch between players, but also a premium midfield i.e
Ablett, Pendlebury, Beams, Fyfe, Rockliff, Dangerfield, J Selwood, Treloar
For a "first year player" Seem to do alright, no?

mick

nothing like pumping up your own tyres deadly ernest

Sean

FIGJAM

Ernest

Actually, i've played for the last 3 years now.
Scored a 2445 this round by having Rockliff on the VC loophole who got 182 = 364.
Had Zorko who scored what 130? Backed me judgement and kept him when everyone was making gastro jokes. How's the gastro feel now?
His lowest Score has been 41. I'm not going to pick him just because "his a favourite who can pump big scores". Who wants a player who scores 140 then 40? I put Parker in because the guy can give you a consistent score.

Kev

Depends on your view towards KPP, Ernest. Those who endured a few lean weeks with Cloke/Tex got rewarded this week with big scores.

henry

hey ernest. good question mate. no real reason to be honest. just very consistent over the years and had a very good 2nd half to the season when he was playing in the mid last season. chose him over franklin. i picked and still have higgins though.

Ernest

I had Lance last year but just burnt me, same with Birchall.
I can see why people would choose Roughead. The guy HAS the ability to score big but it's too much of a gamble IMO. I'd rather Pav then him.

henry

true mate. i stayed with zorko all the way aswell. very happy at that. chose tom mitchell over parker (bad decision)

Ernest

Don't worry mate, i aswell picked Mitchell over Parker, only bought him in this week. But hey it's our opinion who we pick so some work, some don't.

henry

very true. scored 2345 with enright and mcevoy out. so still very happy. also stuffed up the loop hole and only got pendles 110.

Ernest

So you were missing 2 and still got 2345? That's pretty good. You must have a pretty strong team.
How many prem's you got?

henry

have 3 rookies left mate tyson fasolo and kane mitchell

Sucks2bu

Did your parents really name you Ernest?? Looks like Jaryd has one up on you there!!

scano

Time to bring in Hanley?

ron

Yes

Daniel

Not in top 6 defs for mine

SCaddict

Didn't think I would say this but Jaensch continues to defies his doubters which up until now also included myself.

Was always planning to get Hanley in as my last premo defender but his injuries and Jaensch's continued solid form has now got me seriously weighing up these two lads.

Gotta say I'm now leaning towards the Crow with their fairly appealing Supercoach finals draw against 3 teams currently in the bottom third of the ladder.

Lions have a shocking final 4 rounds of the season in comparison. Hard to ton up when your team is getting spanked along with the risk that Hanley tweaks a string again.

The Garbo

Why not get both for D5+6 spots. Still solid value picks

scano

Thoughts on Jamie Elliot?

Kev

Pies next 3 – saints, dees, dogs. POD option

henry

saints 2 in arow?… unlucky for us saints πŸ™

Kev

haha, sorry mate, my bad

John

Hold or trade Wingard if names

SCaddict

Would surely keep him. If he pumps out a huge tonne this week it will drive you stir crazy if you've tossed him after one stinker.

throttlefinger

Brought him in when my gut said Bird. Funny thing how I usually dispense the "go with your gut" advice yet don't seem to follow it myself. Like Jim from Gippland said, best moves seem to be made right after the round rather than overthinking it.

But agree. Sticking with him at this point.

SCaddict

I saw one of your tweets last week and was convinced you brought in Birdman.

So when he went bang and racked up the touches again I was thinking oh well at least one thing worked out well for Throttle this season ha ha.

Big ring

So what’s the thoughts in bird? I haven’t actually watched him play, just followed his scores.
Is he proven? Is he gonna be playing whatever role he’s playing the rest of the season? Anyone know the reasons for his early bad scores? Seems like a pretty good, cheap outside pick…

SCaddict

Birdy is a very good role player. Has been given freedom lately to win the ball and use it but Horse could very easily change his role back to more a lock down forward which he's done before. McGlynn is another versatile Swan whose role can change from month to month too.

Anyway we probably have missed the boat on Birdy as he's nearly hit $500K now. I'd rather spend a bit more and get in a Parker or Gray or a bit less and get in a Buddy or Dixon. He's a legit alternative no doubt but not for me.

throttlefinger

Ha. Win some, lose some, SCaddict.

The Garbo

hold

WombatsFC

Dump him John. He's had a lot more than a single stinker, 10, 53, 70, 81, 83, and a best of only 104 isn't good enough from a bloke who cost $531k at the start. IMO there's more low score pain to come from Chad.

throttlefinger

Hey Womby. Your suggestion with Tippett may be a nice liniment to that wound. Just need to decide between Buckley and Billings who to ditch to make it possible.

WombatsFC

Hey Throttle how you doin?
Backline injuries have crucified me this year and if it weren't for a blue called sam getting a lot of time in the middle I'd be well and truly stuffed.

throttlefinger

You were always keen on him. Done well for the up/down Blues. Speaking of, probably got to let go of Iron's boy. BE pretty high and form is sliding.

Glad to see you've been kicking A in the Tdome.

What do you think about Goodes? Tippett still the one to snag in Bloods Big 3?

WombatsFC

I understand about Jimmys boy and can't help thinking he's being played out of position.
Goodes is a champion through to the bone he won a Brownlow as a ruck and another as a midfielder and he is still capable a few high 100's but, for consistency the forgotten Tippett is a lock for me.

throttlefinger

Agree. Goodes is a roller coaster where Tippett seems like a rocket.

Mick has made things harder not easier for him to play in the big time. Off he goes…

Sleepy

HI Jock, Higgo and the Crouching One and all at flapping tarps and community. The Supercoach Gods beat me up bad this week. Had my team set and thought I'll be OK. Had to work Thursday til I got home about an hour ago and checked how I went. BLOODY HELL my back line Enright, Walker, Webster, Hartigan, and Cutler. Mids Swan, and Boyd who I had the C on. Fwd Wingard and Lynch GCS. What more can I say?

David

Reckon we should hold on Wingard he's not the worst F6 possition player come finals time. Should be good from now on, that knock to the head will have a positive effect and should be consistent on the 80-100 for the rest of the year πŸ™‚

P.s. Take note that this is my positive spin.

SCaddict

I think that's the smartest play David unless you have a whole bunch of trades left.

Sideways trading at round 12 has a decent potential of ending in tears, less one precious trade.

Wingard is a quality player and will likely rebound strongly next weekend, assuming he plays.

The Garbo

Shouldnt have got him to begin with! But yer definately hold him till we get closer to end of season. Then make a decision to hold or go BANG

The Mullet

I haven't got him. But with that 10 score rolling through his average I see an opportunity. If you have a Lloyd/Ambrose type in your FWDs, in a week or 2 in won't be a massive step to trade one of them to Wingard. I'll be happy to have him as a F6 and use his DPP status to help plug midfield holes if required. The important point is (apart from last week), he is in good form. He is just getting FWD SC scores instead of MID SC scores. He doesn't look like a player with 2nd year blues. Hold the faith.

Jpants

Gday fellas scoring a sold 2530 this week πŸ™‚ looking to upgrade both fasolo and langdon this week… and have 290k in the kitty…. was looking to do Langdon > Burgoyne or Hibberd? which one would u suggest… and in the fwd line dont know who to get but should have around 530k? Help community would appreciate it?

henry

get hurn for langdon mate! saves more cash to upgrade fas and hurn is playing very well.

Mathew

Yeh dont mind hurn but if your looking for a solid week in week out scorer i like hibbered mate

Branks

I'd get Hibberd and Franklin.

Captain joc

Get hibberd and for fwd have a look at buddy, Dahlhaus lots of options

Azmataz

Yeah jump on Hibberd mate. Can't go wrong. Which forwards do you have already? I personally wouldn't go Buddy in the fwd line. Parker is a better option if you don't have him. I would also consider holding Fasolo as he could still give you premium output and has a BE of only 43.

GarglesnarfFC

Agree with Azmataz. Hibberd and hold.

Jpants

Thanks for the feedback everyone!!! im going with Langdon > Hiiberd… meaning next week fasolo will gain be some more cash to get in gray πŸ™‚ thanks community

David

No to Burgoyne we have seen the best of him and think he will eventually only avg high 80's for the rest of the year.
Hibberd a great option and still upside to him.
Michael Johnson is nearly as solis as Hibberd too just food for thought!

The Garbo

Johnson a better option than hibberd. Same price, plays in a better team, avg the same but has broken the ton more than hibberd.

The Garbo

LeCras has pumped out some good scores and still under 430k (most likely).
Is he a good player for the Fwd5/6 spot?

Bellybuttonfluff

I keep looking at him over and over but have to remember I know him as LeGlass.

SCaddict

Would avoid Lecrap. Just too injury prone. Think Buddy and Zorko or even Tex and Goodesy are better prospects for the money.

Dixon is also worth considering for ruck cover purposes especially if you already have Thurlow on your ruck bench.

The Garbo

Lecras to leglass to lecrap — well that escalated quickly lol!
I keep looking at him and might still take the punt. He has already had his yearly injury.
TeX seems like the other option. Is cheap enough to loophole so I Dont have to risk the occasional key forward flop.

The Garbo

Treloar (516k) avg 111 prior to todays game. Tonned it up again today. Worth a spot in the mid?

SCaddict

You could do a lot worse. However I reckon you could extract maximum value by waiting for a fallen elite to bottom out like a Steven Johnson who could be not much more than that in a couple of weeks. Griffen is also available right now for similar coins and Jock is backing him to the hilt to produce the goods.

If you are not interested in those guys or already have them then you could patiently wait for someone else to plummet whether it be a JPK, Pendles or a Libba…who could say. Will there be more fallen elites over the next 10 weeks? In the words of Chris Scott there is "nothing surer!" πŸ™‚

Captain joc

I don’t understand why everyone keeps considering Griffen his not doing too well this year especially if he gets tagged

The Garbo

Griffen can be a very damaging player and teams know that. They also know that its easier to tag him outve the game over players like Boyd and libba.
Great player but unless he gets let off the leash he’s going to struggle to be a top mid option.imo

The Garbo

And Yer I might stick to my plan and wait for Steve J to drop. Or keep the last mid spot open in hopes of a premo to fall

Hazey

Dammit full lockout…hurry up n finish so I can start trading!

Will

Knowledge is knowing a tomato is a fruit,
Wisdom is knowing not to put a tomato in the fruit cellar.
I'm bloody Jock Reynolds.
Love your work mate.

Azmataz

Haha yeah brilliant call!

Bones

*in a fruit salad*

RooBoy

Hi Community,
Anyone do better than 2642 for the week?….Hope to be a chance for the $1K !

MightyDonsFC

You came 7th! Great effort

RooBoy

Thanks, V happy with that!

SCaddict

Can't believe all this chatter on ditching Wingard after just one game from hell. Sounds like he will be fine to play next week or will miss one game at most.

A couple of weeks ago he was flavour of the month, proclaimed far and wide that he was a bargain buy that was just about to hit his straps. I never really bought into that line of thinking and looked elsewhere myself but now everyone is dumping his stock like it's the second coming of Enron.

All I can say is you folks must have a heck of lot more trades than I do at this advanced stage of proceedings. I'm glad I didn't ditch Zorko after one shocker. The opportunity for corrective trades was like about 9 weeks ago!

dognino

I've had wingard from the start and couldn't believe all the talk about people wanting to get him in, has been very inconsistent and his big games where he kicks 5 , he still only just manages a ton.

Can't afford to trade him out tho as he has lost over $100k and I don't have the trades to do it anyways

Captain joc

I’ve started the season with the chad when he had that one week ankle injury I got rid of him as there was no news on him he came back the next week but hasn’t looked to flash was considering getting him back in at 424k but the fact that he would kick 5 and only just ton up steered me away and when he got a 10 this week I had a massive smile on my dial!!!

GarglesnarfFC

Reports are that he won't play this week. I still won't trade him out though, will try to upgrade either Lloyd to Zorko or swing Shenton fwd.

michael

Problem areas for me are Enright, Lloyd and now Taylor who after this round is probably ready to slaughter. Have $160K in bank and need 1 premo mid & 2 premo fwds to have full on field premos? Any suggestions?

Mike

Err yes, listen to the bloody podcast, it was full of them.

SCaddict

Would hang on to Enright if he plays this week. You have enough right now to go from Lloyd to either Goodesy or Tex.

Not convinced just yet that either will average 100 plus for the rest of the season but 85-90 is definitely doable which is terrific value for $340K and an F6 positioning.

The Garbo

Tex could be a great F7 option to keep loopholing each week. How many trades left? mid season you should be a bit more conservative with your trades if possible

Dom

Whats the news on Mcevoy?

SCaddict

You will have to wait for an official injury update midweek Dom but as it was just a corked though there should be a strong likelihood that Big Boy plays the next game.

Mathew

I have one M8 spot to fill and one F6 spot to fill to be full premo.. The two im looking at are sloan and gray but not enough cash to get both just yet
Who do people think will be the better in? Either way it will be taylor out for them, forward or mid
Thanks community

Captain joc

They are both pretty consistent this year sloane has only dropped under 100 once and that was a 83 and his a workhouse yet gray had a pair of 79 as his only scores under 100 gray is 5k dearer so they are pretty tight contest I’m thinking maybe lean towards grey because he has fwd/mid eligibility can’t go wrong with either player

Mathew

Thanks CJ but i was more looking at if anyones got and advice as who i should bring in priority
Im pretty sure I will be bringing in both of them over the next few weeks but was more thinking gray will probably stay around that 550 mark when sloan could go up to 600 (save 50K) yet if i do that I will lose taylors mid/fwd swing for a couple weeks
Thanks for the advice

Azmataz

I would go Gray as top priority. He is a must have fwd and the mid-fwd swing is gold. Fwd line should be upgraded first along with defence.

The Garbo

Gray – fwd premo options are limited. Value for GREAT mids will still be available as the season progresses + there is a lot more options to look at in the mid. So no rush

Mathew

Thanks everyone think your right gray will be coming in

Captain joc

Ok looking to upgrade Langdon this week got 190k can either bring in a fwd or mid for him as def is full premo

So got 606k to spend

Forward or midfield? Any ideas?

Mathew

To many to name mate could be almost anyone. Want to put up who your looking at or who you already have?

mat

watson, steve johnson,

Azmataz

Best trade of the season for me so far- Polec to Rockliff. A cool 140 odd point difference. Ended up with 2502 this week, my best score ever. Thats with Shenton on the bench and Taylor on ground

Noah

Is it worth getting in Michael Barlow this week, considring Ihave Fyfe in the same midfield, or are there better options, I know Rossy doesn’t mind the rest. Cheers

MightyDonsFC

Thoughts on Ben Mcglynn?

wes

love him as a Dual Pos fwd mid option.
I have to get rid of polec, and he is an option there for me. And the swans are playing irresistible footy at present.
Only thought there is possible too many stars in swans team for him to be consistent prem. Seen that in the Pies with sidebum, beams, pendles and swan – they all cannot get 100s each round… can they?

Sleepy

Out of those four it seems only Swan missing out on tonning up but I reckon being the champ that he is he will soon turn that around

SCaddict

Perhaps too much of a role player for the Swans although his midfield time is definitely up from previous seasons.

No question he's performing darn well right now but doubt he will finish a top 12 forward for the season which is all we should be concerned with right now.

Sarah

What do people think of Mark LeCras? $428k…
Only sub-80 score for the year was due to an arm injury… averaging 99 even with that score of 20.

wes

HI Sarah
answered above in prev post… most opinion is he is a bit injury prone. Can put out good scores, but risky option with injury clouds looming constantly over him like they did wile e coyote.

Sarah

Thanks Wes, must've missed that comment!

Kev

I asked the same question last week, Sarah. Got a 'high risk, high reward' answer. He is currently my F6, more than happy with a 134 this week! Tackled like a man possessed

Sarah

Thanks Kev. I didn't see the game myself. Did he play through the midfield at all?

Guest

Jacobs to nic nat? nic nat has looked good for a couple of weeks now. I know its a sideways trade but it would save me cash to upgrade a rookie. Thoughts?

Sleepy

If you have Sandi I would trade him before Jacobs. Due for a rest and Jacobs only one bad game.

GarglesnarfFC

Jacobs suffered a groin strain in the game yesterday which is a potential worry. I wouldn't trade him out until the injury reports come out later this week.

wes

Hi Community,
Thoughts on Shaun Higgins…
With dual fwd/def status, and with Langdon still in my team, I've thoughts on losing Langdon. Question is, do I move Higgins into my DEF and replace with a fwd?
So – where are there better mid-pricer options and who would you chose in that section (def or fwd)?

BTW – I play on afl fantasy site so this score may not sound so great to you as they score differently there. But I cracked the 2200 point barrier for the first time ever this weekend. Last year I could bear get to 2000. Largely thanks to the Community. Cheers guys and gals!!!!

Tony

Higgins is not dual status …

wes

am on afl fantasy and he in there – dpp def/fwd.
they changed it half way through season – nice for me.
I come on here cos it is the best site for info, the $$ and pts values don't match, but the correlate nicely far as who is going up and down. that, and there is nothing else around for the afl version.
with that in mind, any ideas??

Cozza

Walker is not a bad mid-priced FWD option in AFL fantasy. Averaging 84 after taking a couple of weeks to get used to the pace. Priced at $316,380 in fantasy with BE of 16, so price will only be increasing from here. He has only increased $30k from his initial price, so there is not a massive difference there.

Other options are Zorko ($402K), Le Cras ($447k), Elliott ($444k), Franklin ($445k), although they are all fairly expensive.

wes

thanks Cozza
Tex seems a really good F6 option for me.
Ended up going Polec/Langdon out – Higgins to def, Tex into F6 and Craig Bird into M8
I've had Elliott for a couple rounds.
My fwd line is basically all smalls, and mostly mid/fwds except for Tex now. BUt I rekcon you are right on that one.
Bird in M8… ?? Do you know the BE on him? must be low-ish.
Really want McGlynn and was 10k shy… and had to lose polec, so not much I could do there.
Bird a bit erratic, but I can perhaps cope with that in M8

john d

another great podcast Jock. community I need your thoughts! I have one F6 spot fill. not sure who to upgrade out of Langdon and Langford. upgrading Langdon will leave me more cash in the bank vs upgrade Langford and leaving me Langdon as a solid bench player.
note: have Georgiou as my other bench player.
Thanks!

john d

sorry that's D6

Sleepy

who are the other players you have in defence and how much cash will you have. Also how many trades left?

john d

Swallow Bartel McVeigh Langford
Hibberd Langdon Enright Georgiou
have $255k in the bank. 10 trades left
if I upgrade Langford for Michael Johnson(for example) It'll leave me $87k in the bank compare to upgrading Langdon leaving me 170k in the bank.
I need the cash to upgrade my M8 and F6 then I ll have a full premo team

WombatsFC

I'd keep Langdon. He will play every game and will be invaluable as playing bench cover on 2 lines, Langford was lucky to play this week. Downgrading a bench mid to a non-playing mid/def like hunt will open the swing gates and give you enough cash to turn Langford into a Premo and give loopholes on both lines.

john d

exactly what im thinking this morning. Langdon to cover both back and mid bench. thanks WombatsFC and everyone.

Captain joc

I’m with wombats on this one I think you should trade Langford but if he gets another game I’d hold him for a week

The Garbo

Comes down to how much cash you have. Langford found some SC form in the past 4 games. And is due for another price rise. Langdon with a 109BE is now competing again with fasolo though Maxwell injury could be a blessing for him.

john d

Langford is a late inclusion last week. Just not sure if he will play all year to be a bench cover vs trading out Langdon will leave me extra 80-90k in the bank that I can use to upgrade my other lines.

The Garbo

I was surprised he wasn’t named in the best 22. From the games I’ve watched, he looks like he’s a good tagger and has been an asset for the hawks.

Black Mumba

Avoid Crimmo's "get him in's" like the black plague! Ryan Griffin – BADOOMP, Chad Wingard – BADOOMP after last weeks Todd GOLDSTEIN – BADOOMP, Sam Gibson – BADOOMP and the week before Dane Swan – BADOOMP!!!

Mozz

What about Goddard? Ward? Elliot?

Black Mumba

You needed the 'get him in" section to convince you to get goddard, libba, ward etc??? Thats as bad as waynes captain obvious pick of Shenton last week?? Plz, no-one was thinking of that were they!!?

The Garbo

I made the move for goldstein on the gamble he'd return to form. I really gotta stop gambling! lol

Sleepy

Hi Jock and crew, in podast you mention did Basil Zempilas play footy? He played for West Perth in the WAFL from 1990 – 94. Welcome

Beady Eye

This, and poor judgement from Jock calling him a nice bloke.

Tosser of the highest order, ask anyone in WA.

Wattsieesq

+1

Baz is a knob

Forbesy

Jacobs > Nic Nat? Frees up a bit of cash

glen20

if you have sandilands i would downgrade to nic nat instead, he's due for a rest.

archie smith for brissie could be a rookie ruck option shortly as leppitsch has said he may come in to fill the void left by trent west

FlyingHigh

Sandi just had a bye why would he need another rest now? He will be rested between round 20-22

Avzmo

Hey guys, got a problem in defence and wondering who I should move on.

My defence currently is McVeigh, Swallow, Jaensch, Suckling, Dunn, Langdon, Kolodjashnij, Clurey.

The first three there I am quite happy to hang on to as they have been quite consistent so happy to have them there to the end. My question is which of Suckling, Dunn, Langdon, Kolodjashnij should be moved on, and in what order?

I've got defenders in mind should I move someone on so not so much looking for ideas on who to move in, so much as who to move out.

Please community, help me out!!

The Garbo

Dunn and Langdon would be the two id put on the block.
Dunn Not making money, and not helping your team most weeks (bit hit and miss).
Langdon I think is sitting around his peak. Has a BE 109. Only positive is if Maxwell doesnt get named he should have a solid output this week, otherwise hes done his job and brought in a potential 300k for you.

Suckling I would delay chopping a bit longer. He's been in good form and taking advantage of Hawks injuries. I expect that to continue and BE 51

No point wasting a trade on clurey. KK id be happy with sitting on the pine for a little longer.

Mike

Langford is due to make a bunch of cash next game. Hold for now. I'm thinking of dumping Derix, though that leaves no cover I doubt he'll be in the team if Pyke is back anyway with Tippet and others filling the backup role on field. I only hope Sandi avoids a rest as I can't spare a trade for only one donut. So looking at Taylor to Selwood this week if Selwood looks to be clear of injury. Thanks to the community for the Shenton tip last week, he's got my last forward on field spot for the foreseeable future.

Cameron

Best forward option under 522k? (Already got Dangerfield, Parker, Martin and Wingard)

Avzmo

Dahlhaus has been good all year save for one bad game this week against Fremantle. Or you could try the power forward root and try for Franklin. But I'd go Dahl first.

The Garbo

Def Dahlhaus – gets a lot of the pill. Couldve had a sweet score this week but 50% DE hurt him.
LeCras could be a cheap option (injury prone though)

Mark

Hey guys,

I have polec who has to go this week. I can’t wait for prices to go down. Would u get sloane, s Johnson or Barlow. Cheers

Mozz

Sloane

Itchy Nuts Pieman

Sloane. Have a look who Stevie J plays in first week of supercoach finals, Freo (Crowley) towelled him 2 weeks ago. Buyer beware with SJ

The Garbo

Cheers for that pieman – was seriously considering him as my final mid. May now rethink that

Itchy Nuts Pieman

I was planning to go Tyson to SJ till I saw his late season draw. After the sucsess of what Crowley did to him 2 weeks ago it's bound to happen again!

The Garbo

I still like Polec (and have him), copped a hard tag from Cross – who tends to have the tag job on the lesser mids (like Macrae).
Im going to gamble on riding out this cash loss with the bet that he'll head back up to the 470k mark closer to finals where I will then pull the trigger. I dont want to be wasting trades with so much of the season to be played.

But regarding your Q. I like Sloane. Broke the ton in all but one game. Barlow – I dont trust that Ross Lyons wont burn me when it matters in finals, with the dreaded rest. SJ is a champ but as Pieman pointed out beware crowley in rd1 of finals

WombatsFC

I'd go Barlow.

crabb

Go for a dpp mate – Parker's etc. then you can get rid of polec whilst still waiting for mid's prices to go down.

Cozza

Barlow for mine

Mozz

I personally think that this time of the seasno is another time of hibernation. We've all used heaps of trades during the bye rounds, and now most of us are sitting around the 15-10 trades mark with still a half of the season to go.

I have a few upgrades to go (still have lloyd, taylor) but i'm going to wait out a few more rounds. Lloyd if picked will go up in price and if not picked can be used as a loophole for my other bench players (Shenton & Ambrose). I'm sitting on 12 trades and want to have 6 for finals, leaving me with 6 for the next 8 rounds. With 97k in the bank, I feel that my upcoming trades will be the 'paint the fence' analogy, meaning that I will be comducting two trades over 3 rounds. This means that for 5 of the upcoming 8 rounds I will not be trading.

If there is anyone out there with the same amount of trades as me, my advice would be for you to HOLD your trades for this week at least. You want to be trading in players who are peaking at the end of the season, not now.

The Garbo

Im in EXACTLY the same boat. Have lloyd taylor shenton ambrose. Am using Lloyd as loophole for shenton/Ambrose. have 100k in bank and 12 trades. But I really am thinking of using one trade this week. Tempted to do fasolo to lecras. or a paint the fence trade to I dunno yet.

Mozz

Fasolo's break even is only 45 this week, so his price will still probably rise. If you are thinking of going Fasolo to Lecras, you'll be stuck with Lecras for the rest of the season. So make sure that you trade in a keeper!

I will be painting the fence in probably 2 weeks. Hallahan in the MID OUT, swing Shenton into the MIDS and then will be able to upgrade to a fwd premo (will downgrade maybe Taylor or Lloyd to a non playing rookie for finals loophole option or one that's on the bubble)

Take a few deep breaths, and make sure that you aren't jumping the gun with your trades this week

The Garbo

You do talk some common sense!
Fasolo I always planned on trading him out last. SO moving on him this week is solely due to LeCras having a 5BE meaning if he tons up he'll go up in price by 40k. And with no Lake, Mitchell and Gibson to strengthen hawks backline LeCras has a good chance to do it – and yes I do think LeCras is a keeper (bar another injury).

The next two-three weeks I'll be TRYING to sit tight then i'll be following you with a paint the fence trade. The only thing that I will consider in the next couple is rookies on the bubble or if I think my rookies have peaked (like taylor or mcdonald).

I also like how your completing your fwds before the mids. smart

Itchy Nuts Pieman

10 trades with Thumper, Tyson & Higgins to upgrade. They are scoring reasonably well, so any further trades in the coming weeks will be with extreme caution. Long way to go with 10 trades. If I went Sandi to Nic Nat & used the cash to upgrade all 3 i'd be left with 6 for the rest of the season. Ouch

Mozz

I would only trade Sandi out when he has not been named.

Mathew

10 trades left with only a M8 and F6 spot left
Holding trades this week and maybe next aswell depending on how taylor goes and will be moving him onto gray using 2 trades then hold Lloyd (syd) and shenton untill peak (hopefully a couple weeks after that) then move on to another full premo hopefully using only 1 but 2 if needed then that will be me done

Mozz

That sounds like a pretty good plan. I'm thinking that Taylor will peak in 1-2 weeks so you're right in thinking to trade him off then and holding now.

The Garbo

At least Tyson and Higgins are scoring and not being a burden. Could def hold them for a while longer. and conserve trades

The Mullet

I'm in a similar position and in 100% agreement Mozz. Now is the time to conserve some trades. We are only 1/2 way through the season and injury trades will still bite. We need to allow for that. Unless one of my targetted end of year players hits their low price point, I'll be trying to avoid trading. Best to allow a bit of time for Lloyd/Ambrose/Cameron types to hopefully rise a bit more while Steve J etc drop.

WombatsFC

Kurt Tippet will not get any cheaper. Why? Because he wont score less than 90 for the rest of this year and he will pump out a few 120+. Swans tactics revolve around isolating Tippet to give a one-on-one deep forward. Anybody who has Wingard should smother the flames with Kurt.

Cozza

I agree and, like you (and it seems most people), in a similar position. I have 2 premos still to get in and 11 trades left, but need some of my rookies to make more $$ to trade them out – have Taylor, Hartung, Shenton, Cameron and Ambrose as my rookies to upgrade, but want them to increase more before I pull the trigger. Sitting 1st in 3 leagues, 3rd in one and 4th in another, so not in an urgent need to chase more points. I think I'll be sitting a couple of weeks to bring in my last two premos.

Itchy Nuts Pieman

Was thinking K JolodJashnij (Thumper) might be a keeper. Great first quarter 40 odd points & a great goal from outside 50. After that I dont think he touched the ball again till the last quarter. Got totally shut out of the game. That's a big corncern. I will give him another week. What everyone else doing with him?

Beady Eye

Holding, along with Langdon, to see who survives as bench cover and who becomes Sam Mitchell after his return and subsequent price drops.

HiltonKid

Thoughts on my trades will be left with 7 trades if I do them both , should I hold on to both of them , should I do only one of them (Which one) or do both…. would love to know your thoughts community!

Enright to Jaensch

Wingard to Gunston

The Garbo

Hold both. 7 trades left for 11 rounds is a recipe for disaster come finals

Mathew

Agree^^
Both sideways trades and you dont want to do that with 12 or under trades especially with so many more games to go

julz

AGREE – you need to hold your trades, the above trades are sideways anyway!

GarglesnarfFC

Hold.

mick

trade ur ass of its only a game try and keep those get in janesh 4 a langford or cutler example

Wild

– Sub Shenton into forward line for Roughead
– trade roughhead to Hanley
– sub Hanley to Langdon
– trade Langdon to rockliff
Thoughts? 11 trades left.
Leaves my team looking bare in the foward line with Fasolo, Shenton & Ambrose ( impey and lennon)
Will probably need to use 2 trades next week to get it up to scratch

Beady Eye

My thought is you get the gold star in Jock's Swingsets 101 class.

The Garbo

I mainly just like the langdon to rockliff.
BUT maybe you should look for some value instead. 628k for rocky is a LOT to pay. especially with only 11 trades left. and most likely having to do one up and one down for each one of your remaining spots.

Still a long season to go

Mathew

Hold back another week and pick up Steven johnson for $550?
If your forward line is guna look bare because of it why not more focus on that? langdon could be used as a D6 and roughead maybe a F6

Alot of people are looking at jumping on rockliff after a 149 avg last 3 but his alot of money especially when you have 11 trades and work needed forward lots more value all over the board
Also look at his last 4 (our finals week) Crows Pies Freo Cats.. tough games with great taggers

Maybe focus forward and look at a zorko or buddy to bring in maybe?
Good luck

SCaddict

Think it's hard to justify bringing in a mid for over $600K now unless their names are either Ablett or Pendlebury.

Yes Stevie J is who I have my eye on too. Should make for a handy Cotch upgrade for only a modicum of coins in a couple of weeks from now.

The Garbo

May be a bit early – But who are people picking as C/VC this week.
Im tossing up between
VC Ablett and C Pendles (because of the schedule)
or
VC Jelwood and C Ablett

Mathew

Im playing an easy win so im looking at VC ablett C dal santo.. playing tigers could pay off
But if anyone else would be sticking with the first i like it
Only problem is when ablett pulls a 130 or something will you take it πŸ™‚

The Garbo

Normally my rule is VC ideally needs +140 for me not to leave the C on Ablett and play it safe. So 130 from ablett i'd prob take it, as my oppnt will prob do the same.
If Jackson doesnt get up this week NDS could be a sweet C choice!

Matt

Hi community! I’m wondering what to do with Polec. Polec > Zac O’brien worth the cash generation? Keep in mind this means playing one of O’brien or Hartung on the field as M8

Mathew

How much cash do you have?
I wouldnt mind sitting back one more week for obrien dont forget he kicked the goal to put the lions back in front after that 50 he was awarded.. would have been a few points awarded just for that
See how he goes this week not going up in price yet either
Could you upgrade polec?

Mozz

Do not get O'brien this week. Need to see what he does next week. Remember early on in the season everyone jumped on Sam Gray (Port) after his massive score and now he's gone nowhere. I would be inclined to upgrade Polec if you can, or hold for another week and if O'brien performs again THEN get him in,

Itchy Nuts Pieman

Upgrade him for sure

Matt

Upgrade to JKP or a cheaper premo like sloan, Watson, Johnson etc? My mids listed in comment below

The Garbo

Hold Polec or Upgrade Only

WombatsFC

Polec>O'Brien Hartung>Zorko

MightyDonsFC

Or just polec>Zorko

JX20

Noted O'Brien's score went nuts when he kicked that goal after the 50. Buyer beware, he looked at sea on occasions.

Matt

I already have zorko. I have $100k in the bank and want to get the best premium to take the last mid spot. I have ablett, pendles, selwood, beams, swan, rockliff and cotchin already. I want JPK and could downgrade langford for the cash to afford that. JPK is expensive but an elite premium and not in many teams.

Thoughts?

WombatsFC

Downgrade Polec and turn Cotchin into a Premo

Itchy Nuts Pieman

Hope Sauce Jacobs spuds are ok for this week. They needed the jaws of life to get them out after that knee from danger. That was a very nasty blow. That woud be excused for "general spud soreness"

julz

Interested in the esteemed community's thoughts on the following:

(1) Could Shaun Higgins be a keeper?!! Was gonna upgrade him to Gray or Parker this week but if he keeps cranking out tons could save a trade…

(2) Altenatively, is it time to get rid of Nick Riewoldt for one of the above? Riewoldt tries his guts out but as SK get beaten most weeks seems to be scoring a lot lower now.

(3) Also interested if people are getting on the Buddy train, especially those of us like myself who have not had him stain our SC underpants thus far this year. I'm still not convinced but interested on others thoughts?

True_Roo

1) In the same boat. Bulldogs last four: STK, NM, SYD, GWS. Mixed bag at the pointy end of the season so would look to trade him later on. He's done enough to let us focus on other trades this week.

2) NRoo will have to go. The game isn't swinging his way. Wingard presents a solid sideways trade, though the community has a mixed opinion on the kid.

3) Yes. Tippett enables Buddy to play more freely – as Roughie did for him at the hawks. At his current price, Buddy is a great value pick for F4/5

The Mullet

I'm a bit surprised there hasn't been more chatter about bringing Buddy in. I did last week, and here are my reasons-
1. Tippet is back and looks settled. This frees Buddy up to play higher up the ground.
2. The Swans have 5 more games at the SCG. If you are outside the 50 metre arcs at the short SCG ground you are basically a midfielder, with a midfielder's scoring potential. I see this as the significant difference to his days at Hawthorn.
3. The Swans have a good draw from here on, other than playing Port twice (once at the SCG).
4. Buddy has an enormous ceiling. And he has the potential to churn out a some big scores from here on. In my view, much more likely than Petrie, Roughy and even Cloke (although he may be on the rise).
5. He has Richmond at ANZ stadium for the SC Grand Final. I don't think that would fill any Buddy owners with trepidation. In fact, if Richmond doesn't start improving, Buddy could tear them a new one.
6. The off field stuff seems to have quietened down a bit. Its always a risk, but he might be a bit more focussed now.

Of course, there are some provisos-
A. Buddy's current role depends on Tippett filling the deep forward role reliably week in, week out.
B. Lots of people don't like KPFs. I believe there is room for one. But if you already have Cloke/Roughy etc, another one is going to cause some heartburn.

Mike

I agree Buddy could be a great option, but due to my low trade numbers I'll have to give him a miss. Good finals draw, will prob score well from here on. He looks to be taking marks again. At least I get to enjoy him being a Swans supporter.

GarglesnarfFC

BURNMAN……… Trade in at own risk

WombatsFC

More suprised that no one has touted Tippett. Comes in late in the season and averaging 99 in his first 3 and has the whole forward 40 to himself for 1-on-1 contests against comparatively tiny KPD.

The Garbo

Goldstein…. What is up with him? Any chance he’ll return to 2013 form?

Patrick

hey all, had a par week with 2208 but i had wingard and lewis taylor on field and cotchin.
Need some help though with trades this week !

B: Mcveigh, Hibberd, Johnson, Birchall, Langford, Suckling (Geogiou, tippet)
M: GAZ, cotch, selwood, dal santo, beams, smurph, goddard, bartel (hartung, J. Llyod)
R: Sandi, Goldy (Dericks, King)
F: Dangerfield, martin, parker, wingard, dahlhaus, Taylor (Ambrose, Lloyd)

I only have 24k in the bank.

Was thinking Langford > Def rookie
Suckling > Pendles (via bartel swing)

Would love some advice please all!!

Itchy Nuts Pieman

I would trade Derrickx to a rookie & make some cash. Then hit the trade on Langford swing Bartel to defence, then effectively trade Langford for a 500K midfielder.

toonking

Likewise I would get rid of Derrickx for the new Brissy ruckman to generate some cash and put Bartel into defense and get rid of Langford

Patrick

yer sounds good guys, with pyke coming back dericks might find it hard to keep his spot!
What midfielder do i get with my 530k?

Wisdom

who is the rookie ruckmen for brisbane??
Also are there any rookie backmen to look out for.
Patrick i dont mind getting pendles in but it looks like there aren't any backline rookies for around 125k

Patrick

cheers for the wisdom, wisdom πŸ˜‰
im torn between the following trades:

Option 1:
Suckling > Pendles (via bartel)
Langford > Bews

Option 2:
Langford > Swallow
Dericks > A. Smith (new brisbane ruck men)

Which one do we reckon please, or other trades? Thanks guys

MightyDonsFC

To all those considering going sandilands>Nic Nat this week, do you have Tom Derickx?

1.Derickx>Smith With West and Leuenberger going down Brisbane look extremely likely to upgrade Smith
2.Lloyd>Parker/Dahlhaus Not sure which one at the moment.
130k leftover
Derickx to Smith generates 190k and doesn't effect my score, Sandilands to Natanui will generate 160k and although the natanui of old looks to be back I'd back sandilands in any day to score more than him.

The Garbo

Don't know why people would be looking to get rid of big sandilands…. He just had a rest through the byes and is one of the best rucks this season.

Though I do have my eye on who will be Lions main ruck

Mike

Though Smith is still second in line according to his coach on afl.com I did Derix to Smith today and Taylor to Selwood. No point keeping Derix if he's not playing. Will prob reverse if Pyke is still not back though.

GarglesnarfFC

Great work MDFC, will now keep an eye out for Smith! Could be very handy if/whenDerikx gets omitted.

Jimmy

Looking to get a forward and defense upgrade this week! Which of these options are the best

a) Hibberd and Walker

b)Riewoldt and Jaensch/Hanley

The Garbo

I like B with Jaensch over Hanley – JUST

Derek

B, with Hanley over Jaensch

Jontoneball

People don't be noobes like Scpaige and look at past averages against teams… Don't fall into the trap that Rough will auto get 130 against Gws and Rockliff will get 70 against Carlton. That is my wisdom for the week

Tommy

My forward line will bring in 2 key position players this week. I just like them better to be honest. All this stuff about inconsistency is rubbish when you have players like Dahlaus who is supposed to be a lock get 70 then 120. Like why not have punt on a Tippett or a Walker who will absolutely dominate coming back into form and will have a huge ceiling of 150 but even in bad weeks still looking at a 70-90… be brave community

The Garbo

*bad weeks of 30-40s

scano

Thoughts on Andrew Mackie? Good POD and without the injury scores he is having a great season

toonking

hold now maxie is out

toonking

sorry about last post…I'd go for the tried and true…hanley etc

Hazey

Scored 55 to half time or something last week before getting smashed in the kidneys…

Jack

Chief Wiggin’ mate! Cheers!

WombatsFC

Unless you only need a D6 I'd look elsewhere. The bloke is very good but not a top 8 defender, IMO.

scano

What do people think about doing a bit of a sideways trade in Langdon to Jaensch/Hanley?

BeagzBoyz

That's not sideways. That's a rookie >>> near premium defender

The Garbo

Good move

toonking

danger

SCaddict

Good use of a trade. I plan to do likewise with Thumper.

Billy

Only need 2 more defenders to get full premo team. for my D5 should i go hanley, jaensch or hurn??