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PODCAST: End of bye rounds PARTY

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Supercoach 2014 podcast

A time of celebration community!

A head thumping period of the AFL Fantasy and Supercoach season is over and this week we kick off directly from our end of bye period party.

The byes can well and truly get stuffed and we can all move forward into the middle of the season without having to worry about these dag on a sheep’s arse byes.

And as always we are presented with some challenging choices this week. Choices around who are the best trade in options. Who needs to go. Who should stay.

 *IMPORTANT NOTE: we’d be absolutely rapt this week if you could complete our community survey to help us nut out our plans for the next 12 months, look out for it this week on the site, facebook, the twitter etc*


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John Connor

Started the byes outside the top 10,000. Now in the top 5000. Thanks for the advice community, now let's finish the job!

henry

My team did $#*% today lads not happy. Only scored 1533
any need for improvement or just a bad week.
def: bartel, mcveigh, hibberd, landgon, Enright, hurn (georgiu, clurey)
mid: ablett (cap 🙁 ), pendles, beams, selwood,libba,Sloane,Tyson,dunstan (acres,crouch)
ruck: sandiballs, mcevoy (derickx, thurlow)
fwd: danger,gray,zorko,Higgins,roughead,fasolo (Lloyd, shenton)
Have 82k in the bank and 16 trades help needed!

Mebois

i would say trade dunstan to cameron or lennon through shenton dpp. then langdon to maybe hanley.

henry

i can feel langdon getting his be of 74 this week against my saints.
will trade dunstan for one of those and then upgrade crouch or sam lloyd.

Kev

Hanley hasn't topped the 100 since round 3. I'd look elsewhere until he can find some consistency

Captain joc

Dunstan to Cameron as said above

Crouch to premo mid if not named again

henry

can afford anyone under 566k thoughts?

Sulzeer

how many trades left? What about Dunstan to Kane Mitchell Son?

henry

16 trades mate

Sulzeer

So you got plenty, Trading down from Dunstan to Mitchell, as mitchell is on the bubble, scoring well and could be a good bit of business for a few weeks and take you upto another premo

Emmanuel

Wasn’t overly impressed with Cameron. I included him this week but concerned about the performance. What are your thoughts?

henry

same mate. would love for him to have scored higher this week. but as long as he can keep his name on the sheet ill take it!

pete

have a serious look at k Mitchell midfielder port 240g ave100 dis 17.5 ..ave 8.tackles on the bubble price due to rise 150 g next 3 . be -56. . he looks tough as nails im seriously thinking of trading him but how is my issue. you have plenty trades 16 . Dunston still has a little bit of coin to be had but nothing compared to Mitchell. . and langdon 411g or enright upto D swallow gcs 501g be worth a thought .

James

Mcevoy got injured on saturday night so maybe him

leon

clarko saying it's a bad corkie…. monitor

trev

You need to move dunstan out now! And think about Tyson, need full premium midfield within the next 2 weeks

henry

tyson you reckon mate? not sure if hes a keeper… Job security very very good. scoring well.

Scano

Langdon! never scores well when Fas is in the side

LukTon

NEED ADVICE COMMUNITY!!

Bringing in a forward this week, but cannot choose between Parker and Dahlhaus. The emotional me wants to go with Dahlhaus cos I love the bloke, but the more composed me wants to go with Parker.

I can see Dahlhaus pumping out bigger scores with dull weeks when either his production is down or if the Doggies smashed, and I see Parker as giving me around about 100 every week with very good consistancy and in a great side consistantly plumping up his scores a bit. I do, however, see both averaging pretty much the same scores from now till the end of the season.

WHICH ONE?? It's hard, but at the moment I'm leaning towards Parker. What do you think community?? Parker or Dahlhaus?

(I am open to other suggestions, but just not keen on Boomer)

Captain joc

Both good options Parker first Dahlhaus second
I’ve got Parker his a gun n my last fwd spot is going to be Dahlhaus

LukTon

Cheers buddy!

Looks like my strategy is going to be the same as yours in that regard!
Good luck for the season mate!

trev

Flip a coin

Jimmy

Thoughts on Matt Priddis as a POD. Seems to be hitting some form and good draw to come.

Steve

jet got him

pieofgod

only problem with Priddis is his ceiling – he's an M8…. as he's a 95-100 kinda guy. If thats all you want/need then he's as consistent as anyone at that level. Trouble is that the Mid Field spots could be filled with so many guns worthy of taking above him

crameri

he wents milks as wall also

Jack

Love the Work Fellas!!

Community what do i do, Polac, Langdon, Thumber ( KK), 1 has to go this week to a premo!! Who should be the unluckly one?

Azmataz

The one with the highest breakeven mate. Which happens to be Polec with 123. The other 2 Haven't quite maxed out yet.

LukTon

I dunno Azmataz, i get the feeling we've seen the best of Langdon for the year now.

I'm still with you on lopping off Polec first – his high profit margin, mixed with the super cheap premo midfielders who are available right now, make for a great time to trade him, but consider downgrading Langdon to cash him in this week too.

Azmataz

Yes but have you looked at who the Pies have in the next 3 games? StK, Melb and WB. I'm just saying it may be worth holding for a week if you have other priorities around the park. That is if he is at your D6. If you have 2 rookies on field in your defence, move him on.

Tommy

brilliant stuff jock mate!

John

Fellas looking to get rid of
1 of Lloyd, Acres or Ambrose for Shenton
1 of Polec, Wright for a premium.
Any thoughts

Tom.H

why would you get rid of Lloyd? He still has a -ve BE. Im holding onto Acres as an M10 just waiting out until he comes back, and Ambrose just holding as a F6. Do you really need to waste a trade in going to Shenton?

Out of Polec and Wright, go Polec for a premo MID

Kevin Horton

Acres – Will be sitting on the pine for another month or so.
If Polec is your M7-8 I'd leave him for now and upgrade Wright.

oliverfisher

Considering going
Laidler, Polec out
Pendlebury and Bews in

45k in the bank and this is my current squad

Def: Swallow, Jaensch, Birchall, Murphy, Hanley, Langdon ( Tippett, Laidler)

Mids: Beams, Rockliff, Selwood, Fyfe, Cotchin, Shuey, Tyson, Polec ( Sheed, O'rourke)

Rucks: Sandilands, Goldstein ( Derickx. Currie)

Forwards: Dangerfield, Rioli, Martin, Roughead, Dahlhouse,, Zorko ( Cameron, Lloyd)

I don't have much cover on the bench so should be looking at a couple of downgrades instead and get rid of Lloyd and Tippett and focus on upgrades later on?

rosco_peco

Tippett > Bews as he will be out for a while recovering from a boob job.

Tough going with the second trade, like you say not much bench cover in the mids, maybe even a Sheed/O'Rourke > Langdon > Bews and upgrade Polec?

Garglesnarf FC

Bews will be out for Smedts either this week or next. Avoid

rosco_peco

Good to know Gargles! almost brought him in last week but decided on Cameron and J.Selwood, so will hold off now. who would you recommend instead of Bews? Looking to get in one of Liberatore or JPK, GODDARD!!!, team currently as follows;

BAC: Simpson, Bartel, Swallow, McVeigh, Hibberd, Kolodjashnij, Langdon, Langford
MID: Ablett, Pendlebury, Beams, Rockliff, Selwood, Parker, Cotchin, Tyson, Hallahan, Acres
RUC: Sandilands, Jacobs, Thurlow, King
FWD: Dangerfield, Dahlhaus, Martin, Gunston, Zorko, Z.Merrett, Ambrose, Cameron

$56K in the kitty mate, not sure who to drop.

Garglesnarf FC

Super solid squad! I can see why Langdon to Bews would work though but you would end up stuck with a donut at D8. See if he gets named for number 3 and maybe take the punt.

Only alternatives I can identify are 1) a cheap 102k defender as a donut for more cash? or 2) a 191k defender in Brodie Martin, his 7 drops off this week so he should make you around $75k in 3 weeks.

Not great options either way.

WombatsFC

Do whatever you can to get Pendle or Gaz.

Mebois

i scored 1883 this week, pretty happy with that but dont know what trades to make this week.

DEF: swallow, bartel, hibberd, mcveigh, b.smith, kolo (langdon, langford)
MID: Ablett, pendles, beams, libba, cotchin, polec, hunter, crouch (hallahan, acres)
RUC: Sandi, jacobs (currie, thurlow)
FWD: Danger, wingard, gunston, pav, fasolo, walker (cameron, jkh)

BTW I HAVE 14 TRADES.

WombatsFC

Get Rockliff, Parker,Fyffe, Johnson, Gray and/or Ned Kelly Simpson.
Trade Langford,Polec,Hunter,KK,JKH,Crouch

Mebois

1. i have 182k
2. kolo isnt going anywhere and could be a keeper. best rookie this imo after polec.
3. i traded rockliff to ablett just before his late withdrawal.
who should i trade for shenton im thinking hunter.
and if i did that i would have 290k, but im looking at kane mitchell and i think he is kind of a wingard, wingard was bad in season 1 but has now blossemed but wingard was pick 5. but mitchell did win sandover medal.

Pat

hey jock another wonderful podcast, so wise!!!
Need some help with the trades this week, who to go out of: Langford, Langdon, Polec, Georgiou, L.Taylor, S.Llyod,P. Ambrose or COTCHIN???

Tom.H

Polec

Ryan

Howdy community,
I'm predicted to win all 5 leagues this week, so am considering a double downgrade. Currently have 125k in the bank.
If I were to go with the double downgrade, my trades would be
Langdon –> bews
Acres –> Shenton, leaving me with 419k

Alternatively if I go one up, one down these are the trades I've been contemplating:
Acres –> Shenton
Langdon to one of Michael Johnson, nick malceski or Andrew mackie, I'm leaning towards Mackie, 50k cheaper than the other two, and if you take his injury affected 57 out of his average he's averaging 100.
What do you guys think is the better trade plan, and if it's one up and one down who should be the premium defender I bring in?
Cheers community,many help greatly appreciated 🙂

Jdawg

CURRENTLY HAVE 10 TRADES IN THE BANK…. DEFENSIVE NO FEILD ROOKIES…. MID NO FEILD ROOKIES… RUCK NO ROOKIES….FWD 2 ROOKIES….. HOW SHOULD I SET UP MY WEEKS LEADING TO FINALS JOCK… help community 🙂

Sulzeer

in same boat but with only 1 fwd rookie on field, between impey, lloyd or ambrose, Id just leave it, for a few weeks, we have not got many trades.. so unless you need to move someone on id be just leaving it alone.. well thats my plan anyway.

Ryan

Agree Sulzeer, wait a couple of weeks and Zorko will be somewhere in the range of 300-350k.

Sulzeer

not sure id be interested in bringing in a zorko into finals the way hes been scoring lately no matter how cheap he is, higgins looking more and more likely to be a keeper as the weeks go by…

Ryan

The word is he had an illness last time out, yes he only scored 12 but take that out of his average and when he was fully fit he was averaging 96, if he's at say 325k, it is a steal

Sulzeer

interesting, they said Rocky had a migraine a few weeks back, still managed a 95 by memory.. built with stronger stuff i guess. 325k he would be a handy F6 I guess, worth the risk, atleast hes more likely to be a bit more reliable over a Lloyd if he plays or a Impey..

Garglesnarf FC

He only played because Rockliff was even worse, if it had been a home game the Lions would had several more changes, and Zorko would not have played. He is 100% in a 2 weeks time.

Captain joc

Migraine and gastro are 2 completely different things a lot harder to play with gastro then a migraine

shallots

very true- zorko sharted about 10 times throughout the game and was thinking about the dunny. And if Rocky played with a migraine then he is a superstar!!!! Most people who suffer migraines besides having excruciating pain have blurred vision, dizziness, feel extremely sick and usually need darkness and a quiet place where they can sleep for 2 days. Yet alone playing AFL!!! Hats off to you Rocky!!

Tom.H

I'm in the same situation as you. I'm going to hold my team for as long as I can now, and then bring in a FWD premo that is performing come finals time. Gray, Harvey, Wingard might all drop off come the finals and people like Pav might start scoring really well.
HOLD YOUR TEAM AS LONG AS YOU CAN!!! You want about 6 trades going into finals

Bellybuttonfluff

I'm in same situation but if we get rid of the last two rooks can we hold our trading finger only for injuries until round 18 or something. I am going to try. I figure I've had my run of injuries for the year early. So I'm gonna give it a go.

Ocker

JOCK and COMMUNITY RE: P.O.D (As asked on podcast Thursday)
I am giving my view of "Point of Difference", Which in Bean-Counter terms is associated with "Price Point" as well to maximise a companies profit.
It is all about having an advantage over your opposition.

When we look at what a POD is in Super-Coach terms It is not necessarily having a different player but at what price and at what stage of the season you pick the same player up at to maximise our scores. We are all looking to gain some sort of an advantage over everyone else. This can be done in a number of ways.
Planning your team strategy at the start of the season is a POD as is "who you pick" but also "who you don't pick" for you team.

Example:
Given the bye situation I only wanted 2 players out of round 8 in the midfield so I decided on Ablett and Beams with the plan of picking up Pendlebury and J Selwood after their byes.Given their current prices and scores I have made the correct decision. We need to look at value for money. One Hundred Thousand teams had Pendlebury at the start of the year but I chose not to as a POD.

Profit Total Points
Ablett $59,400 1212
Beams $86,700 962
Total $146,100 in financial profit for 2174 Points.

Whereas:
Pendlebury -$50,300 1035
J Selwood -$89,200 959
Total -$139,500 in financial loss for 1994 Points.
Looking at these figures I am 180 points better off and money saved from my initial 10 million starting value which allowed me to get Dangerfield instead of Wingard at the start of season. Choosing the right team in the first place can be a POD.
It could be argued why I did not start with Pendlebury as well for more points but I had to make a choice regarding byes and my score over the byes has made up for points lost in the first 7 rounds. If I lost any at all.

Short of writing an encyclopedia I liken the phrase POD to the word "if".
When I was a kid we were always told that the word "IF" was the shortest word in the dictionary with the longest meaning. "If only I had picked up that player last week" Are you guilty of saying that?
OR If only I left the big C on Ablett?

Making the right decision at the right time.
Cheers Community hope this gives you an understanding of "POD".

shallots

yeh but all of that is neither here nor there. You started with Danger I didnt and got him 70K cheaper than you- but who were the other 27 players in your starting team.

POD explains itself and means being different. Whether you started with Pendles or not- if your team ends up with him like everyone then there is no point of difference- so the example you give 'if' isnt quite true. If you want POD's- what Jock and the boys are talking about and the rest of the community are talking about then you want players that everyone else is unlikely to start OR finish with.

No matter how you look at it Pendles is NOT a POD and never will be.

If you want a list of POD's for this year then here go's-
JPK, Libba, Boyd, NDS, Ward, Sloane, Jacobs, N Jones, R Gray, Prestia, Priddis, Sidebottom, Gibbs, Ebert, Hanneberry, Rockliff, SJ, Treloar, Montagna, K Simpson, K Jack, Barlow, Heppell, Dahlhaus, Deledio, Macrae, Goddard Redden, Mundy, Omear, Boak, Wines and L Parker.

They are 33 out of the top 50 averaging players this year and all POD's and all somewhat cheaper than other similar scoring prems. But how many do you have? And these are the POD of the league and who they are referring to.

If you have any of the above players then you have high scoring POD's

And the profit/points comparison you have is only valid for round 10. 5 weeks ago those numbers would have been different and if 5 weeks they will also be different.

The biggest skill is also based on luck and it comes down to what rookies you start with, what players get injured and most importantly who and when you trade.

Ocker

Hi shallots, Yes you got Dangerfield at the right time which became a point of difference.
Your last sentence summed up exactly what I was using as an example which is a POD.

"The biggest skill is also based on luck and it comes down to what rookies you start with, what players get injured and most importantly who and when you trade"

I was just answering a question of Jock's interest to hear of the Communities opinion on what a POD is if you listened to Thursday nights Podcast.
I do not have a microphone and I was giving my opinion where it could be read.
I understand what you are saying but I am not here to cause an argument and opinions should be welcomed in this Community not picked on.

Cheers.

Ocker

By the way shallots, Thank You for taking the time to at least read my opinion.

Cheers.

liam

Hi ocker, I can completely understand what you are saying but imo the example you are giving describes “value” more than POD. I don’t really buy into this whole notion of POD and think people get carried away with it. I posted on here a few weeks ago that Paddy Ryder should be brought in. Most people consider him a POD however I got him because of his price and potential output – value! For opinions sake I think POD simply means a player that only a small number of teams have at the time when that player is going well! I’m sure a lot of people jumped on Gibson from north melbourne thinking they were getting a great “pod” and it has backfired!!

Cheers!

Ocker

Hi liam, Value is part of it mate and that is why I also said that making the right decision at the right time is also a very important part of being a point of difference. You are exactly right mate in what you are saying. Right decisions regarding players and picking them up at the right price is a point of difference. The 30 trades brought into the equation makes the decisions we make even more important.
To sum the whole POD opinion up, It is actually a business module on it's own and hence my reference to the word "If". The whole explanation cannot be described in one short post.
I am sure if Jock reads this he would appreciate your thoughts as I do.

Cheers, and good luck with Paddy.

WombatsFC

Hi Ocker, thanks for your insights mate and I agree that the decision to not-select a payer is as much a point of difference as the decision to select a player; the laws of physics confirm it.
However I don't believe that your cost v benefit analysis of your decision to not get Pendle & Selwood is relevant in isolation because your decision also had an influence on every other player that you selected in your squad and, will continue to impact all future decisions.
In actuality there are no Points Of Difference unless you have players that are not in any other team.
A lot of the Players listed by Shallotts are in less teams than other players but this only makes them less popular in general. If more than 7 the other 17 coaches in your league all have a particular player he's not a Pod even though he's only owned by 0.5% of coaches overall.

Ocker

HI Wombat, You are right again mate maybe I should have not used an example as such. Just trying to give an insight into what a POD means to us in Super-Coach. The whole selection process of your starting team is a POD. I like the analysis of your league assessment although at the time of writing I was looking at the overall situation of winning the $.
I was just giving an opinion that seems to have started a debate which was not my intention but I am sure Jock will enjoy reading this post because I think that it is what he was looking for. (Our Opinions)

Cheers.
PS: Still after stats?

Captain joc

My opinion is you shouldn’t look for PODS, you should just go for the best 22 players you can get

Ocker

Hi Captain, That is my way of thinking too mate but just answering a question that Jock asked of the Community which seems to have sparked the right response.

Cheers.

throttlefinger

Great insight as always, Ocker.

Yeah, POD is like the wind. Shifts league to league and round to round. It's something that I've tried to be conscious of yet not led by the nose too much by. In fact, I think early on I went a bit POD heavy (Dunn & Houli) and it bit me in the backside. Now try to be more sensible about it.

WombatsFC

Nah throttle P.O.D players weren't your problem you went a bit heavy on D.O.G players:)

throttlefinger

(ba-dum-dum)

Tom.H

Why is everyone thinking of getting rid of Sam Lloyd? HE STILL HAS A -VE BREAK EVEN PEOPLE!!!

Cozza

Because he still needs to get a game for his negative break even to be worth any $$. If he’s not named in next few weeks, he is no good to you unless you are short of trades or don’t need cash from other sources

Sulzeer

some probably need someone actually playing..

WombatsFC

Relton Roberts same team and might have even been the same number.

WombatsFC

Matt Thomas has his spot and with Cotchin playin like cheese eating surrender monkey they need all the muscle they can get in the middle so, Lloydy will have to wait until someone else stuffs up.

throttlefinger

Keep him. Use as loop. BE is too low to off. Form has been good. Dimma tinkering so may be out again.

Captain joc

Could lloyd come back as Jackson has an injury

throttlefinger

Definitely could yet was surprised he was left out last week so never know.

Nick

Want to get rid of wright who should I get i was thinking pavilch thoughts

Ryan

Not sure Pavlich is a great pick, three games he's scored in the 60's, what about Wingard if you don't have him?

Captain joc

Dahlhaus

WombatsFC

I'd go Danger, Gray, Parker, Dahlhouse, Dusty and Wingard before Pav

mike

Traded my ass off over last 3 weeks now am holding and bracing for injuries until taking the leagues and the comp.

backs: Bartel, Swallow, McVeigh, Hibberd, Enright, Suckling (Cutler, Georgiou)

Mids: GAJ, Beams, Selwood, Watson, Swan, Libba, Murphy, Polec (Hartung, Acres)

Rucks: Sandi, Gold (Currie, Thurlow)

Forwards: Danger, Martin, Pav, Zorko, Bud, Higgins (Cameron, Shenton)

Jdawg

very similar to mine mate! just wondering how much trades u got left in the bank… ive got 10…

mike

10 as well. Time to hold hold hold

Ben

Thoughts on Mick Barlow? CHEEEEEEAAAP

Sulzeer

I think he will drop a little more, not alot but a little, will he cop Picken next weekend?

Beady Eye

No one ever tags Barlow.

WombatsFC

Ross Lyon is coach, anticipate a bye from Freo premo's in final four rounds = SC finals

Beady Eye

I'm curious as to whether that was the first time he rested his guns en masse, or did he do the same thing at St Kilda?

I know everyone talks about that game like a SC horror story, but it might have been more due to the particular situation (ie. Freo already virtually locked into 3rd spot) than a trend.

@TyLuton

Will Ross have the same luxury this year?

Ben

he would be an absolute #treat if he wasn't going to be rested, its inevitable. However, I could use him as a stepping stone to a, say, Pendlebury, and then go BANG. Flag under the belt

Jottie

G'day jock very happy with the teams performance ended up with 1932, took pendles vc and gained 20000 places in rank went from 45 too 25000 overall although I think I may be clawing too much back to win it this year, your master class along with crouching mr crimmins Higgs and the baron have me looking forward too next year already have learnt too always go with the gut have gone with the gut 6 /10 times this season and they have paid off next year it will be 10/10 you guys are legends thanks you for all your interesting articles

Jottie

Not forgetting mock the mad Irishman of course : )

Branon2416

what is rory sloanes b/e??

Jottie

136 21% likely … Search footy wire supercoach breakevens all there

henry

also jock mate,
what i want as part of the community is way longer sunday podcasts if possible!
there bloody incredible

Clayton

Hey Jock/Community. Stuck on trades this week:
Thinking of going either
Langford – Bews
Dunstan – One of Barlow/Priddis/Boak/Prestia… Leaning towards Barlow at the moment.
This means I field LangDON as my D6
OR
Langdon – Bews
Dunstan – Fyfe.
Would really love Fyfe but it means I have LangFORD as my D6.

Do you reckon Langford will score similarily then Langdon this week or will we see more 100's…?

Captain joc

Fasolo back in the pies side don’t expect big scores from Langdon, Langford got a breakeven of 42, Langdon breakeven is 74 I’d trade out Langdon cop the Langford as D6 on the chin for a week then next week you can downgrade to someone else and then upgrade Langford depending on his score I reckon Langford could get up in the 70-90s this week playing against gws

Jacob Black

I’d consider Goddard. Averaging about 115 without that injurey affected score of 11. And hes playing teams he plays well against come finals.

Clayton

Holy shit I never even considered Goddard! Just checked out his stats then. Thank you sir!

WombatsFC

LangFORD has GWS this week I think he'll score significantly more this week than Langdon even if Fasolo doesn't play.

Captain joc

Anyone considering Kane Mitchell from port instead of shenton?

Ocker

Yes Captain.

Captain joc

Looking pretty juicy hey!!

Ocker

Giving very serious thought to him, Appears vest days are over and looking strong, Had a shocker this week if a player got injured or played bad I had him. Lost 3,000 places this week.
Will have to take drastic steps maybe and Mitchell looks at least a good stepping stone even if it is the wrong time of year to be doing that. (6 guns on bench didn't help)

Cheers.

Captain joc

Yeah I got 1774 from 17 was hoping for 1900 but gazza as captain was a letdown
Yeah I reckon Mitchell could be a very good M8 to average between 70-100?? Then bang make 200k free off someone else and upgrade him to the best available mid

Not only that port seem to be winning and that normally helps a little bit

Ocker

Looking to use him as a stepping stone to Stevie J when his price bottoms out at the moment.
Holding that last mid 8 spot and he could well be a safe bet to do that.
Just going to have tea and then update my stats for the week and have a good look at the situation.

Cheers.

Sarah

I'm thinking the same thing Ocker.

Captain joc

Yeah although shenton is really worth it at 155k I like him but she tons next 5 are: COLL, port, geel, WCE, RCH
Compared to Mitchell next 5: mel(tio park), ST.K, syd, WB, adel(basically home game)
CAPS= home games

WombatsFC

I think Shentons DPP status make him a far more valuable than Mitchell. If one of your forwards goes down you can use Shenton to cover. can't do that with Mitchell.

Kris

I REALLY like Mitchell – THOUGH hes a bit too pricey for my liking this part of the year, and me personally I wouldn't want him on the field in the final stages of the season meaning I would end up trading him out. That said I would feel more comfortable grabbing a player under 200k, as money is easier to make.
I would now only consider Mitchell Just to have some solid bench cover if poo hits the fan with injuries.

Sleepy

What about GAJ? Who do we pick as the C now if the MRP get onto his elbow in the face of Picken?

Ocker

Worry about that if it happens.
The only thing that it will affect is the Brownlow. You still have VC and C choices.
What happens if GAJ retires next week?

Cheers.

Kris

HOW DARE YOU SAY THE 'R' WORD!!

shallots

Bookies will be super happy this week- GAJ will easily win the brownlow but will be inelligible because according to nearly every football commentator he is gone for a week- no if buts or maybes it seems. Throwing out the elbow is like the knee- it is almost physically impossible for it to hit someone accidently.

JPK the best replacement for GAJ as C I reckon

Kenny Powers

No way will he get a game .. It's GOD jnr. we are talking about here .. if it was a rookie or no name player they'd be guaranteed at least a week – that's just how the AFL rolls!! Take the Judd elbow to the face of Pav a couple years back as a precedence .. forceful enough to draw blood but NO suspension .. as he had priors we can only assume it was be bcoz it was the much-loved Judd.

Gary rohan the spud

even if he gets done he can plead guilty and 25% will be lost which means he will get one week but the guilty plea will mean he wont miss any weeks. however he will still be ineligible for the brownlow

Dean

First and foremost awesome podcast as always Jock, Higgo, Crouching & Wayno.

Dear Jock and community your advice would be much appreciated as im hoping to have a complete premium side by round 13 if possable. I currently have $240,000 in the warchest and have 15 trades left.

In round 11 im considering trading out POLEC for JP KENNEDY
Then also trade out JPK and bring in CAMERON SHENTON. This will leave me with $200,300 in the warchest leading into round 12 I really wanted to get MARTIN in my forward line this week but due to my reminder on my phone not going off, I totally forgot and missed out. I would like to get MARTIN in my side this week as his B/E is 53 but then again so is JP KENNEDY.

My side so far is this.
DEFENCE
SWALLOW, BARTEL, MCVEIGH
LANGDON, ENRIGHT, WEBSTER
EMG
GEORGIO, CAMERON

MIDFIELD
ABLETT, PENDLEBURY, BEAMS, SELWOO
WATSON, MURPHY, COTCHIN, POLAC
EMG
HALLAHAN, ACRES

RUCK
SANDILANDS, JACOBS
EMG
CURRIE, KING

FORWARD
DANGERFIELD, PARKER, J KENNEDY
WINGARD, LLOYD, SHENTON
EMG
IMPEY, CAMERON

Hope to hear back from you guys soon, as your advice will be greatly appreciated. Good Luck community.

shallots

wow mate get JPK if you can afford him- he is seriously going to smash this competition open and mark my words- EVERYONE will start with JPK in 2015. I heard he got back to back 20 contested possesions in his last 2 games. First player to ever do that supposedly. Actually it may have been first player to get 20 contested possesions twice full stop. But dont quote me on that last one.

Sleepy

Hi Ocker just creating a bit of a stir. It probably wont happen and we all know he wont retire but I watched the game and it was like hey "I am Garry Ablett why aren't you looking after me umpire?" Throwing his arms about and shaking his head. Hell he got 5 free kicks. How many stars get a tag and don't carry on like that?

Ocker

Sleepy, I did realize that mate and know where you are coming from I watched it too but he did cop a bit from every dog that came near him as they went past. Pretty sure all free kicks were after he spoke to the umpires too.

Cheers.

Sleepy

Cheers Ocker. Yep and nothing personal against GAJ or anybody else but I just find it a bit of a no brainer with no challenge at all throwing the C on GAJ every week. I wonder how many SC teams lost this week coz he had a bad day?

Ocker

I won my main league but had a shocker of a week if someone got injured or scored badly I had them.
Lost 3,000 places this week. I cannot pick the right VC so GAJ has been Captain every week for me so far. Six Guns on bench did not help. Team looks good with everyone back on the ground.

Cheers.

Emmanuel

Yep, GAJ cost me an important league game…

lostlarrikin

Currently holding Taylor, Ambrose and Lloyd up fwd (one on field).
Considering moving Taylor to Cameron to make cash for the Langdon > Bartel upgrade.

Would prefer to hold fire and conserve trades but with Langdon bottoming out and Jimmy set to rise, the time seems right.

Thoughts? (13 trades left)

Azmataz

Yeah mate pull the trigger. Bartel is a must have

@TheNoLanguage

I'm going McDonald to Bartel, Crouch to K Mitchell. Gotta get Jimmy in!

Anthony

Currently have 169.200 in the bank and only 12 trades left. I need help mainly with forward i think, my side so far is this.
DEFENCE
Bartel, Swallow, Mcveigh
KK, Burgouyne,Cutler
EMG
Fuller, Flynn

MIDFIELD
Ablett, Watson, Beams, Selwood
Rockliff, Johnson, Fyfe,Shenton
EMG
Acres, Spina

RUCK
Sandilands, Gundy
EMG
Currie, Nankervis

FORWARD
Dangerfield, Roughead, Martin
Fasolo, Lloyd, Walker
EMG
Ambrose, Honeychurch

Planning on trading out someone for zorko.

Azmataz

Hold off on Zorko as he will drop in price more with a BE of 137. I think you need to sort out your defence with Cutler on the field. You can get some cheap, solid defenders at the moment, such as Hanley for $420k or Enright for $430k. Ideally you would want a Simpson or a Hibberd but they are expensive. But since Cutler is only at $220k you are a bit short. KK is doing ok at the mo and his BE is only 50 so no rush to ship him on.
Maybe even Grundy to NicNat could be a good trade now..
Good luck
Cheers

Anthony

What if i trade out lloyd, switch Shenton to forward and pick Hartung?

Azmataz

I would avoid Hartung as he has already had his first price rise and does not have good job security. Maybe consider Kane Mitchell from Port, as he is a gun and is averaging 100, BE is -57 and has a much better job security than Hartung. He is priced at $240k but is worth it and will score better while he is making you money.
See if LLoyd is playing this week first as he is also a gun and has a negative BE. But then again Fasolo has StK, Melb and WB in the next 3 games so COULD go good.

Tom

Thought on Fyfe or Kennedy or any other midfielder.
I already have Ablett, Pendles, Beams, Rockliff, Watson, Selwood, Polec, Hartung,(crouch, acres)
Looking to upgrade Polec this week
Cheers

Azmataz

Yeah mate both look good options. I would go JPK out of those two if you have the cash. I would do the same but fall just short, so might hold.

Azmataz

Who will make the most cash community? Kane Warhorse Mitchell or Cameron the beast Shenton?

Michael

Hi everyone.

I have 188 000 to upgrade either KK, Polec or Lewis Taylor. What should I do? Also only have 9 trades left but I’m ranked in the top 300, so not all doom and gloom. Cheers

Kev

If you've been playing this game for a few years, Michael, you'll know that the end of season "general soreness" is likely to rear his head once more. I'd be very cautious with my trades from this point forth.

Taylor has a 4b.e, KK 50-odd, I'd keep those two. Polec has a high b.e of 123, though personally I'm not rushing to trade him out. A solid M8 and has shown he can have a high ceiling

Michael

thank you Kev! Will probably reverse trades and hold onto Langford, as he will provide good cover when a premium is out for a week

chandanrajdb

Upgrade Polec to someone Premo Midfielder…..there are plenty of option to choose from……

Cheers,
Raj…

Kris

hold your trades

wes

Hi Community
Toughy for me – who would you pick as an upgrade for Jack Macrae? I feel it is time to let him out to pasture…
Current mids in my team – Stevie J, GAJ, Cornes, Beams, Swan, Polec, Sam Gibson, (Dom Tyson, Jake Lloyd)

Options –
Promote Tyson to P8, downgrade Macrae to ???? and gain some $$$ (Shenton in?)
Keep Tyson on bench, upgrade Macrae to ???? ( Josh Kennedy??)

Am thinking having Tyson on bench is just wasting money now. So maybe a better question is who to keep out of Tyson, Polec and Macrae?
I could do with some $ for my DEF

Tom.H

trade out polec for Josh Kennedy

wes

thanks Tom
that still leaves me with a mid pricer on the bench… Most people seem to think in here Polec out is a good idea now.
Which of Tyson and Macrae would you lose? and who for?

Dean

Wes defiantly trade out Polec and get either JPK or FYFE

Secondly Regarding who to get rid of out of Macrae or Tyson, that's easy trade out Macrae due to his B/E at 90 compared to Tyson's B/E which is only 14 and he is projected to increase $38k

Hope that helps you make up your mind.

wes

cheers – appreciate the BE info

Kris

After this week I would trade Tyson.
Trade Polec this week due to high BE though he still scores very well consistantly so you can keep playing him on the field if your in no rush and are happy to preserve some trades.
Macrae would be the last on my list. He wont change in price much from here on out.

Tom

Should I upgrade langdon or downgrade? Only have $430,500. Was looking at rampe maybe or is there good downgrade options like young bews? Thanks

Captain joc

That’s enough for hurn I think

Tom

already have hurn

James

Thought on M.Crouch to Kane Mitchell and then polec to either fyfe or kennedy, fyfe has the easier run home…

Tom.H

polec to kennedy would be better

wes

Community and particularly Jock and team!!

Hot topic for me, captian killers – I am talking taggers.
Can you list the best captain killers going around this year – some stats on who they control.
Would be interesting to see those for the likes of mcaffer and co.
e.g. – a friend has Montagna, and is considering trading him out for a big reason that he will get the mcagger tag this round and not only not score points, but drop $$$ big time too…

cheers

Some guy

Macaffer and greenwood

Kris

curnow (injured though)

rosco_peco

Kerridge:
Boak (83)
Griffen (77)
N.Jones (81)
Murphy (75)

Benno

Dumped Ablett on Friday, enjoyed spending his $750,000 but more enjoyed watching him stink it up! Biggest risk of the season just paid off!

Itchy Nuts Pieman

Benno you have the biggest balls of all. Can you get him back? Who'd you spend your cash on?

Benno

Martin and Selwood with enough cash left over for Polec –> Pendles this week!

Benno

and i'll be going Swan or Ebert –> Ablett in 2 / 3 weeks

Itchy Nuts Pieman

Nicely done. Very large balls.

Garglesnarf FC

Considering doing the same thing this week. Ablett to KMitch this, and trade him back in for Polec in three weeks time. Will allow my last defensive upgrade to be done next week, and will leave a $300k war chest after rnd 14 to use on the run home.

Its the best way for me to maximise my points output next week, and generate cash over the next three.

Benno

Could work, but sounds pretty risky. The biggest risk is that he comes back with 180 this week and no price change. Could you go straight to Langdon to a def premium and Polec down to Shenton / Lennon / Kmitch?

I only did it because I'm now sitting on full premium across all lines with 13 trades to spare.

Derek

haha, I mentioned that in a post last week and there were howls of protest. I see SUNS having a very tough run of games coming up and knew that Gaz would have a couple of below par scores, didn't think it would be so soon.

Benno

Totally agree, the question now is when to get hime back in and who for!

Buzzer

It's a really interesting point. I've often found that Gaz scores heavily against better teams as his young teammates struggle.

Itchy Nuts Pieman

Landgon people. I'd suggest hold for a week or 2 before pulling the trigger. Has the Saints & Melbourne next 2.

MightyDonsFC

That just means it won't go down back much

Itchy Nuts Pieman

Depends on your priorties. I'm looking at going up to Hibberd for hopefully 80k. And Langford to Hanley for 100k.

Beady Eye

I don't think people's concern with Langdon is over the opposition, more so the fact Fasolo is back and stealing his role.

Garglesnarf FC

Break even of 75 this week and about 110 next week. Time to upgrade him either this week or next before his price goes south.

Fasolo playing really stuffs his scoring

MightyDonsFC

Downgrade to Kane Mitchell or Liam shiels? Need a mid priced midfielder that will make 100k and have a 90avg for a few matches

Kris

Kane

Marcus J

alot of poeple seem to be thinking about jumping on bews but i wouldn't recommend it. he has minimal job security i reckon.

Itchy Nuts Pieman

I'm with you Marcus. Big No for me.

Beady Eye

I think he's in the same boat as most Geelong rookies – he'll get a run of games then a rest, while the next youngster gets a go. So he might not play from here to the end, but more likely go out and come back in pending form.

I wouldn't count on him playing every week, but he's looked solid (particularly against Freo) and should be a decent bench defender. There's not a whole lot else to choose from!

Garglesnarf FC

Will not get picked this week I fear.

Captain joc

I beg to differ I reckon they will play him abit as he looks good

Garglesnarf FC

Fair enough CJ, but with only 3 kicks 5 handballs 1 mark and 4 tackles, he needs to ‘look good’ more often to keep his spot!

Gilly

Smedts getting thru his game in the VFL last week doesn't help his long term prospects imo. Would be handy if he could keep his spot though.

Gold Coast Blues

I brought him in before he had even played a game. Got rid of Georgiou and brought him in – won me my league game too! My DEF is pretty solid, so not too worried about him just sitting on the bench.

Beady Eye

One trade this week is set aside for young Shenton, but I'm torn on which premo to bring in alongside him. Help me out community!

Langdon to Simpson
Polec to Goddard

Marcus J

i did polec to goddard myself. ave 120 over last 3. looks solid

Mike

Simpson , that'll get you the most points added by far I reckon.

Garglesnarf FC

Agreed Mike. With Fasolo back Langdon cant be relied on for more than 65, while Polec with Ports easy run in June could easily average 100+.

Captain joc

Langdon to Simpson

chandanrajdb

Hi BE,

I am going for Goddard as well, he is averaging around 116 PPG if you take out his injury affected score out this season…..and I am happy to bring him into my team…which will complete my MIDs…..

G Ablett, S Pendlebury, D Beams, T Libertore, J Watson, D Swan, J Selwood, B Goddard……(BENCH: Shenton / Dunstan, B Acres)

Polec to Goddard for me this week……this trade is confirmed

My other trade I am considering bringing in Shenton but not sure who to trade out…..have couple of options below,

OUT: Dunstan, but Dunstan has a achievable BE this week……

OR

OUT: S Lloyd IN Shenton, i know S Lloyd has a "-VE" BE will make more money, but the question mark is will he come back to the team…..????

Thoughts Please….

Cheers,
Raj….

Garglesnarf FC

Dunstan for Shenton. You get more value from his DPP in the mids, and while Dunstans BE is achievable, he isn’t going up in value. Shenton will make you another $150k+.

To be honest given that Acres will have a ‘2’ sitting there for two weeks after his 4-6 weeks off, it’s not the worst move in the world to dump him for Shenton instead of Dunstan or Polec (if you can afford it)

Dean

IMO your crazy bringing in Goddard into your midfield. Once all this ASADA stuff comes out soon God knows what's going to eventuate, but its not looking good that's for sure. I would not be selecting any Essendon players at this point.

chandanrajdb

Hi Dean,

Wouldn't affect Goddard mate he was not in the team during the Supplement SAGA of Essendon…..so it shouldn't be a factor if you are considering to bring in Goddard into your team…..

Cheers,
Raj….

Beady Eye

With all the legal convolutions to come, I couldn't see an outcome being reached this year, let alone anyone copping a ban.

The distraction the whole saga causes for the players, well that's something else.

Emmanuel

Disappointing round. Only managed 1683 after a great start. Too many let downs. GAJ was bound to have an off day. Was hoping it wasn’t when my opponent had Pendles as captain.

Great podcast again gents. Very informative.

Your expert guidance is again welcome. Team below:

D: McVeigh Bartel Swallow R Shaw Suckling Enright (Bews Langford)

M: GAJ Selwood Beams Swan Murphy Cotchin Polec Langdon (Acres JKelly)

R: Sandi Lobbe (Derickx Thurlow)

F: Danger Dusty Zorko Tex Walker Billings Cameron (Lloyd Ambrose)

11 trades and $299k

I’d like to repair my Swan instead of Pendles blunder but don’t want to waste a trade.

Other ideas…

Polec to Watson

Kelly to Shenton

Or…

Polec to Watson

Lobbe ro Jacobs.

I feel I’m a bit short in the fwd line.

Open to ideas though. Thanks heaps!

Beady Eye

I think your midfield is in pretty good shape regardless. If you can afford to get both Watson and Jacobs in, I'd be doing that.

Emmanuel

I will see if I can afford a forward and either one of Jacobs or Watson

Marcus J

i'd look at trying to get parker or dahlhaus in your forward line. its looking alittle thin.

Emmanuel

Thanks. Who should I get rid of in my forward line?

Stumped

dahlhaus

Emmanuel

Thanks. Who should I get rid of in my forward line?

Jottie

Lloyd

Derek

I'm glad bye rounds are out of way. I didn't do to good. In my 5 leagues I ended up only 6 wins and 9 losses over the last three weeks.

Roughy and StevieJ suspended did for me this week and cost me at least 2 wins, and going JPK as capt over Gaz last week cost me 2 wins.

How did everyone else go W/L over the bye weeks?

Beady Eye

Lost this week by 15 points. Danger over Pendles as captain meant I couldn't capitalise on my opponent's own Gaz captaincy fail.

SCaddict

Had unbelievable rookie carnage during the byes with nearly every injury and vest imaginable but somehow came though the other side with 11/15 Ws and improved about 4000 ranking places.

Thankfully didn't have any premo suspensions to deal with which no doubt could've been killer blows at our most vulnerable time.

Anyway now the byes are finally over and we can all just focus on finishing off our teams.

Nifty

Done well over the bye's. 14/15 lost the one by 32 points.

Tim

Need some help here guys: $275,000 in bank / 11 Trades Left
D: Simpson Burgoyne Langdon Watts Enright Laidler Gardiner Tippett
M: Ablett Beams Libba Watson Bartel Cotchin Fyfe Polec Kelly Hartung
R: Sandi Mummy Derickx Thurlow
F:Danger Breust Martin Higgins Hale Fasolo Lloyd Kennedy-Harris

Considering:
Polec > Kennedy
Kennedy-Harris > Shenton

Thoughts appreciated.
Tim

Garglesnarf FC

Kelly to Shenton for the M/F in the mids, and Polec to Kennedy. Same cash generation, but more flexibility for the rest of the year with DPP options.

Tim

Cheers Garglesnarf
Do you think JFK or Pendles is a better option?

Garglesnarf FC

In the short term probably Pendles as the Pies have a soft run, but over the rest of the year it will only be a point or 2 difference, so go with who you like.

Lauz

Hi Guys,
really unsure what to do with my trades this week
have 11 left, with $317300 in the bank

Def: Swallow, Bartel, Burguoyne, McDonald, Hurn, Mcveigh (Tippet, Georgiou)
Mid: Ablett, D.Beams, J.Selwood, Dal Santo, Wines,Vince, Polec, J.Kelly (hallahan, Acres)
Ruck: Sanidlands, Jacobs (Derickx, Currie)
Forward: Dangerfield, Breust, Martin, Zorko, Fasolo, L. Taylor (C. Cameron, Ambrose)

Was thinking Tippet > Bews is a must
Unsure whether to trade out of Polec or Kelly, and who i would trade them to
Polec > Pendlebury would leave me with more cash for next week.

Or should i trade in my forward line?

Your thoughts and advice would be much appreciated!

Beady Eye

Rather than further beefing up your mids, I'd swing Taylor in there and grab a premium forward instead.

Itchy Nuts Pieman

Your best points come from the Midfield. So upgrade there. Polec & Kelly to best available mids. Tippett to Bews is not a good trade IMO. Pendles would be nice but you have other priorities to fix.

Garglesnarf FC

Tippett to Bews will simply give you another donut. I would be very surprised if Bews gets picked this week, and if he does he will need a blinder to make it for next week. Smedts was back in the reserves and played well and while he may get another run in the ressies this week he must be back in the senior side sooner than later.

Kellys price will plunge, so he is your primary out to Shenton IMO. Then trade out Vince, to JPK/Fyfe/Pendles, as he is performing worse than Polec.

Derek

I was about to fill my midfield with my last Premium this week – welcome Pendles.

But daisy has gone and done played well! He was going to make way for Pendles. Should I now hold Daisy and extract a few more $ from him and look at an upgrade in my defence?

My team:

DEF: Birchell, Suckling, Simpson, KK, Langdon, Langford, Webster, Aylett
MIDS: Ablett, Beams, Watson, Cotchin, JPK, Selwood, StevieJ, D Thomas, Acres, Hartung
RUCK: Sandi, HMac
FWD: Danger, Chappy, Buddy, PAV, Roughhead, Martin, JKH, Ambrose

$127k

Was planning to JKH >> Cameron & Thomas >> Pendles

I have a number of Defenders who will be ready for the culling (Webster, Langford, Langdon, KK, Suckling) over the next few weeks to upgrade. Not sure if i'm going to have enough cash to get the very best defenders & pendles. 16 trades left.

any thoughts would be most welcome. Welcome!

sharker4

Pendles will be a lot more reliable then Daisy

Beady Eye

Defence is definitely the weakest line looking at that, while your other mids in Watson, JPK, SJ, etc can still provide Pendles-like output. Pendles is like Gaz in that his standard is so high that tonning up (but not completely smashing it) can still cause him to lose value. You may well be able to grab him later in the year at sub-$600K if he drops a couple of 110's.

All that to say, I'd downgrade Daisy to a rookie instead and use the profit to improve your defence.

Captain joc

Upgrade Langdon to someone

sharker4

Looking at making my midfield full premo this week, have been looking at getting in Pendles for a while and can now afford him, however that will give me 3 pies in the mids, too risky? Other option is Selwood, who is 80K cheaper but might not score as well as Pendles. Thoughts?

Jack

Is it Worth going Crouch to Kane Mithchell!!

Garglesnarf FC

yes

Kris

If you have trades to spare

@TheNoLanguage

Was thinking the same thing but is Shenton a better bet for more cash saved??

Mike

Any bombers fans think Aylett is an option down back? Seems to have had good vfl form? Is he one injury away from job security?

MightyDonsFC

I prefer ashby over him, so it's a no at this point from me

crabb

Aylett will only get a couple a games for the year mate, bomber says it in the members vids. He's a hardworking kid, but don't think he'll get more gametime than gleeson down back, he is the most promising rookie.

SC Lover

Hello Community,

Thoughts on Zorko? Hold or Upgrade while still at a decent price to be able to trade,

I have enough money in the war chest to get whoever I want,

Option 1
Zorko > Wingard

Option 2
Ambrose > Wingard

or

Option 3

Zorko, Ambrose > Shenton ( Only reason is so I don't miss out on banking the cash with Shenton, because if I go with the options above, I wont have much money in the warchest to do upgrades later on)

thoughts?

cheers guys!

Michael

stick with Zorko, last start heavily affected by the runs, week off will have done him wonders.

Kris

hold

Cameron

Its Buddy time

TigerTuff

Polec to Rockliff
Lloyd to Shenton
or
Lloyd to Parker
Polec to Shenton
Thoughts?
Both Forward and MIdfield last upgrades

Mike

Err, neither? Wait a week or so on Lloyd unless he's on field for you, in which case you have to trade. Does rocky score that much more than Polec ATM? Mind you Parker is a pretty good addition to any forward line, but you would have to have Shenton on the bench, if so we'll that sounds great.