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PODCAST: Time to trade like mad bastards

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Supercoach 2014 preseason podcast

At last we can trade in blokes knowing they’ve had their bye.

And we have some reasonable quality presenting itself to us as as well which is arousing.

Community – the next few weeks are a delicate balancing act. You want to concentrate on bringing your sides scoring capacity higher. You also want to make sure you’re cherry ripe to have at least 18 warm bodies on the deck for the next couple of rounds.

Sharpen your minds community. Sharpen your minds and focus NOW. This is the stage of the season where the inexperienced lapse in concentration.

And when members of this community pounce.

Enjoy the show.

 


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jenny

thoughts on using my 3 trades this week?

sammy mitchell to bartel or hanley

roughy (if rubbed out) to ???? (need some help have danger,gray and zorko)

and suckling piggy to ??? (have hibberd, enright, mitchell have 212$ in the bank)

Cozza

Roughy would only be out for 1-2 weeks I think if he is gone, so depending on how you look over the next two bye rounds I would suggest holding Roughy – He is someone you would probably want to keep for the season (unless you were planning on getting rid of him at some stage).

Simpson would be a good upgrade for the pig.

shallots

Yes get roughy out for sure. He will get 2-3 weeks. Then he has 93 carry over points which is basically another week then he has a bye also. That could be 5 weeks out. Even if its 4 thats still 19% of the year he will miss.

Ryan

Got off with one week

Leroy Kincade

Hi Jen,
Downgrade to Docherty

joel

yeh sammy for bartel is best option than roughy for parker and piggy to swallow or mcveigh if you can afford
that

Jontyone

He community! Should be another cracker podcast.
Thoughts on going
Higgins>any round 8bye midfielder (via boomer dpp)
Cunningham>acres
Merrett>Round 8 fwd premium forward

Jai

Significantly arousing podcast as usual Jock

Will

I say this in the nicest way possible, but Higgo reminds me of Norman Bates in the way he speaks of his mother! Happy mothers day!

Neilsy

Yeah I can just picture him peeking behind the curtain,dissing out the breakevensswan too. Lol!

wippersnapper

Late trade of McDonald > Docherty so I avoid Robbo's 12. Yes or No?

Kev

Not much cash to be made from that trade. But if you really need it for the league win then why not

Josh

What do you lads think of:

Ellis – Acres
Polec – Selwood
Higgins – Rnd 8 premium forward (although struggling to think of anyone decent)

Is it too early to cull Polec?

Jai

I would be pulling the trigger on Polec. He is currently my M7 and if he can turn into a selwood, griffen or muddy for less than $80k more then thats a steal

Gilly

Selwood's be is about 160, which he is capable of but if you wait another week you might save 20-30k

Beady Eye

Polec's BE is still only going to be about 85, which he's shown he's more than capable of scoring.

I wouldn't be rushing to trade out one of the most consistent scorers in the game, especially not when he's got Melbourne and St Kilda as two of his next three.

Frosty

Polec's BE will be 61.

Gilly is correct, Selwood will cop a Crowley tag and hopefully drop another 20K

Sarah

I'm not so sure about that. On current form the Crowley tag may go to Stevie J.

Kenny Powers

Steve Johnstone Sarah .. you don't want to invoke the wrath of Lord Jock .. lol … but you are right about who Crowley may go to. Also Crowley hasn't been super efficient so far this season.

Kev

Is it time to trade Macrae to a rolled gold premium? He has done his job as a mid price breakout player (raised 140k). Looked to be struggling last night but saved faced with a big final term. Thoughts?

dean

Yea i think its a good move, if you had him early enough, you made some cash from him, Griffen starting to look in better form, Macrae has probably peaked, Good time to get a round 8 premium who has already had their bye.

Kris

Macrae copped a hard tag from cross and then was let loose in the fourth (cross went to boyd?) where he pulled in about half or more of his score. I would be holding for now.

Boomnation

Am I stupid to think buddy now has some upside with the Sydney midfield looking pretty solid?

dean

I ran over the same thing myself today after seeing his score, but there are much better options in the forward line to go back to Buddy. Gray, Dalhaus, Parker, Wingard etc.

Jdawg

JOCK AND THE COMMUNITY! do i trade polec > selwood and bank more cash…. or tyson > selwood…

favalinko

My advice is wait post round 9 for Selwood, his price go down and Polec and Tyson price go up. Save cash $.Welcome

SCaddict

I agree favalinko. I'm in no hurry to rush Jelwood in to my side just yet either.

If he puts out more 70-80 type rubbish next weekend with Crowley hanging all over him he could end up dropping below $500K eventually. So it could be as long as a month before he fully bottoms out in price.

Also I think we need to see at least some sort of return to elite output form before we fork out the investment capital. He could be carrying an undisclosed niggle for all we know that's been hindering his performance lately.

Gilly

I agree, he has a be of 158 for next week so while possible unlikely to reach that. Also concerned about injury, remember he had foot surgery late in the pre season. I didn't start with him as I was concerned that it had been an ongoing issue and he had a managed pre season.

I might be jumping at shadows but just thinking back to nic nat last year, limited preseason then came back and went bang bang. We all got on board thinking he was back then he turned into a stinking turd.

shallots

depends on how many you are fielding this week. If you dont get Jelwood then Polec will be on the bench this week. And Jelwood could easily smash out a 140 and only drop another 10K. Now is the business time of the season and theyre the risks involved. The aim is to get the best team ASAP. Look at Danger- he made up his losses in 2 weeks

taylorwoof

Wonderful podcast again lads!

Crouching One had me in stitches!

Enjoy tomorrow night's match everyone, and may you have a good week ahead.

SCaddict

Barring a late withdrawl miracle tomorrow you should have me in Throttledome this weekend leaving you as the only undefeated side in that league.

So well played in advance! Hopefully I'll get another crack at you in the finals at some point. 🙂

taylorwoof

Cheers SCaddict!

I didn't realise it was you, who i was playing against – The 'Addicts' Anonymous tag should of given it away…..hahahahaha

Thought i was on the ropes after Hawks v Swannies scores – JPK 153!

tyzsb

Any good round 8 forwards? Looking to upgrade Higgins…… Had him since round 1 and think it is time to cash in!!!

taylorwoof

This was covered in the podcast bud.

In short: Forwards coming off bye not great, may need to hold for an extra week for a Gray, Dahlhaus or Wingard.

Adam

Weekend at Charlie's???

Rodger

Buddy

JX20

Is Christian Salem worth a look at some stage? Had the vest 3 times which has caused his price to drop this round. However the kid can play and looks at home everytime he comes on. I can see his JS being healthy and I think will eventually make you a nice earn once he starts games and will provide a healthy emerg score.

Kev

Bang on, JX20. He was played 3qrts of footy in those games, and has gone 25, 25, 46. Kicked a goal in each game. Just needs a good run at it

Mungos Men

I think Proos is playing him the same as JKH until he gets the speed of the game he will have the vest! JS good will play full games after the bye I believe!

Captain joc

Community thought on buddy franklin??? Now that the fwd line is fit n firing together with Tippett back and Sydney playing a lot better

Garglesnarf FC

Not this week CJ, hold off til after the bye. Buddy has been 1 game on followed by 1 game off so far this season. I decent score does not a premo forward make.

Would prefere Bruest, Wingard, Dalhaus over the 9Million dollar man, at least until Buddy manages 2-3 decent scores in a row.

The Regular

I disagree. There are valid excuses for all his low scores this year.

His first two, it was pouring down not unlike the flood in which Noah had to build the ark which doesn’t suit lone full forwards.

His most recent was injury related. With Tippet, Reid and Goodes as other forward targets, he will almost certainly not get the attention he has been getting to this point.

I expect him to average 100+ for rest of the season barring incident/injury and is currently priced under 80 ave. That’s a bargain in my book.

BundyBear

LOL 2 goals and 7 behinds is not firing .

SCaddict

What are the community's thoughts on BJ 'Lord of the Trouser Ring' Floggard as an M7/M8 upgrade option this week? That's of course assuming he plays this Friday and that the jaw is fine.

Obviously not ideal with his Rd10 bye still around the corner but from a price perspective this would be the optimal week to bring him in, somewhere around the $460K mark, now that the 11 from Rd4 has finally left his pricing.

Has tonned up every week he's played, bar the one where he was subbed out early, resulting in an adjusted average of 116 and will have a tiny BE this week. Perhaps the Priddis like bargain buy of 2014.

As an aside it looks like Josh Kelly has fattened up fully now and with his bye about to occur he's the lamb I would silence for this purpose.

Frosty

Thought i was the only one, Goddard is straight in this week at $466, 000.
Averaging 116 for 5 games if you remove his 11 when he was subbed out 5 mins in.

His BE will be 40 next week, a score of 100 will be a $26k price rise.

Mike

Trade in player with bye coming? You arsehole, fly kick your nuts. Welcome.

Neilsy

Great work scaddict

sammyd

i am on 1650 with montagna simpson reiweldt and smurphy

Garglesnarf FC

Nice, I am pretty happy on 1480 with four to play but I only have Smurph, Reiwoldt, Dunstan & Billings!

Sleepy

If you can crack the 2000 mark in a bye round you have done very well. Good on u Sammyd

Sarah

Hi guys, need some advice.
I'm predicted to lose my league match this week in my money league by about 100 points. Is it worth the trade of McDonald to Simpson to try to get the win this week even though he'll then miss next week? Don't have many round 9 bye players so would have almost a full team next week, but was planning on getting Bartel. By getting Simpson this week I won't be able to afford Bartel next week. But was planning on getting Simpson at some stage.
Thoughts? Should I go for the win?

Garglesnarf FC

It sounds like it fits into your structures ok, just not sure if you will get 100+ out of Simpson. Who do you play next week, and will having Bartel be critical next week?

Maybe ask yourself this, if he scores 90 and you lose by 10, are you you still happy to have Simpson in your side, knowing that you cant have Bartel?

Sarah

Thanks Garglesnarf! Good advice. Although I think I've just decided to get Dal Santo in the mids instead of Bartel next week. Either way, it'll help me win the next two rather than this week and maybe the next two.
Cheers!

BlueBalls FC

how do ya feel now simpson got 144+. haha i feel real good

Ocker

Shame you never had an opinion in the first place BlueBalls. After the fact silly comment.

Cheers.

Sarah

Turns out I still would've lost if I'd picked him up so it doesn't bother me. Hello Bartel (or Dal Santo) and Pendlebury and welcome to my team!! Can't be upset about it when you get to bring in those two quality players in one week!!! : )

canman1306

This week I will be using all 3 trades
AlexG -> Tippet
Merrett-> Bartel through DPP (Zorko)
L-Mac/Suckling -> Acres/Salem Through DPP (Bartel)
Thoughts

Bowski

Not sure about Tippet's JS. Might end up sitting on your bench not earning cash.

Pots

I have a dilemma I would appreciate your thoughts on.
Currently up by 191 and have Murphy to play tonight. Have got the VC on McVeigh's 131. Opponent has Murphy as C, Ray and Simpson.
Do I loophole to get McVeigh's 131 or move the big C to Murphy?

Akka

Go with Mcveigh

Frosty

are you up by another 131 if you use McVeigh?

322 lead with 1 player v 4 (effectively 0 v 3) or 191 up with 0 v 2.

Murphy's recent scores (last 4 years) v St.Kilda are 75, 57, 78, 73, 115, 90 and 75.

Go with McVeigh, you'd have to be stiff for Murphy to go big.

Frosty

only way it's not the right choice is if Murphy scores over 131. Can't see that happening.

Pots

Thanks Akka and Frosty. My C has not played so I will receive the additional 131 once play begins.

Nishy

1987 with Simpson, Walker, and Jack Steven still to play anyone going better then me?

Mike

Simply the best podcast on the net. Welcome. There's just got to be an ABC tv series in this. We need more of you three characters.
Going with Suckling to Bartell, Kelly to Cotchin, Polec to Pendles this week after stashing some cash last. Cotchin may have sucked so far, but his draw looks too good to ignore from here on.

SCaddict

They are three huge upgrades in one foul swoop so I'm envious. Must feel awesome to go BANG BANG BANG like that. Your opponents next week are in for quite a shock ha ha.

I started with Cotch but my faith has been surely tested this season so I hope you are right Mike.

Mike

Yeah, his only big scores are v poor teams. He's got something like two games with saints, gws and one Melbourne one Lions to come. Or something like that.

Garglesnarf FC

+1 🙁

Derek

How much cash do you need for those upgrades?

Mike

I was "three times an arsehole" last week. (Best song yet) and have stashed away $590000 after dealing Stich to Salem, plus another downgrade. Stich be at 138 and is an ideal sub coming back into the Swans. Still hurt me when Salem was unbelievably the sub again. Would have easily toned up in a full game. Not only did he score "only" 45 but price dropped when I was counting on it going way up. The perfect trade in target for a bench keeper I reckon. He'll average over 80 for rest of the year.

Bowski

If he averages over 80 for the next 6-8 weeks, how much will he appreciate??

JX20

Montagna's last 7 games of 2013 averaged over 131+ including prelim 154 and GF 165 scores.
Slow start this year but with the return of Steven has gone 140 174 144.
With his bye yet to come, 637K, BE 61 tonight – is there a good time to grab him? Or simply leave him alone? Massive POD and can he be a top 5 midfielder by the end of the year?

SCaddict

He's been in ripping form the past month. Unfortunately you are paying top dollar for him at the moment and with the rookie situation looking a little dire right now we have to conserve every dollar we can lay our hands on.

I'd still also rather throw that sort of coin towards a Pendles upgrade instead, as predictable and uninspired as that may seem.

However those who already have Monty must be basking in a Supercoach glow. Will be keenly watching to see whether he can keep that 140 plus form going tonight!

gab

dont you mean 2010?
vcant recall monatnga playing in the grnny last year ?

Sarah

I think he's refering to SC prelim and GF rounds… ie. Round 22 and 23.

TNT

Hey people,

Would I be better off going;

Kelly to Swan
OR
Polec to Pendlebury

Cheers

SCaddict

I'm in a similar position having both Kelly and Polec. Still reckon Lord Farquaad hasn't quite run his race just yet so intend to hold on to him a little longer. Think the time is about right to cull Kelly now though.

So my preference would be option A although I'm looking myself at bringing in BJ Goddard instead for $100K less than Swanny. Swanny at $564K is still a bargain though especially with his bye out of the way now.

Derek

I went bang bang bang this week and looks like paying off. Well ahead in 4 leagues.

Close league; Do you think walker and Dunstan will out score Simpson by 10?

Mungos Men

60 from Dunstan and 80 by walker should get you through! 130 is gettable by murphy but will have tom curren in his back pocket…

Jimmy

im thinking of downgrading aish and McDonald next week.get in jobe and selwood when they are right

Kenny Powers

McDonald for sure but you may as well wait with Aish .. he has his bye in R 10. That is the best time to get him to slaughterhouse!

SuperCurious

What are peoples thoughts on old mate Daniel Jackson from the tiges? Posting some good scores, bye gone and could be a significant POD.

He is a complete toss bag off the field by the looks, however you have to look past these things when you are chasing SC glory……

Coffscoast Slurry

I was having a good hard look at him as well Jimmy BUT came to the conclusion doesnt seem to be capable of pulling out massive scores. Looks consistent yes as probably will never get the tag with Deledio and Cotchin there. Depends how the rest of your mids are looking – IF you just need some consistency ie: 100-105 output each week he or priddis will almost guarantee you that but he is not going to ever pump out a 160 etc like a selwood, johnson, pendles etc. He wouldve been great to have at the start of the year but dont think i can bring him now.

SuperCurious

I am hearing you – had a good look at Priddis in the last few hours and I think he is a better option at a similar price after his bye.

Leroy Kincade

He's a real good downgrade cover option for smurph, Libba etc but he wont be a top ten midfielder.

Damo

He’s not a toss bag. He’s a fantastic bloke. Inspiration and role model. What the hell are you talking about? Dud supercoach pick though. Go on trade him in, you deserve it.

Tom.H

573k in the , time for extreme upgrades!

McDonald –> Bartel
Polec –> Selwood
Crouch –> Pendlebury

SCaddict

Would be nice but you'd need nearly $750K in the bank by my calcs to do that mate.

Stickers

i love how people do that! Getting a bit excited! no point in getting Selwood this week anyway 😉

Tom

Is Matty Wright ready to be traded? Or do we keep for a few more weeks?
Same with Macrae and Suckling?

Tom

with Jaensch out I'm hopeful Wright will go back and play the role he played in pre-season and his output should increase.

Ryan

G'Day community, thoughts on these trades
Polec –> acres
Aish –> dangerfield
Any advice would be greatly appreciated

Beady Eye

There's still plenty of cash to be milked from Polec. Wouldn't ditch him just yet.

Gab

getting suckling out this week, am looking for bartel, is he the way to go ??
also who is the number 1 midfielder we should be targeting this week? Jobe, Swanny, Cotch….??

Kenny Powers

Think plenty of coaches are looking to bring in Bartel this week, many using Suckling as the trade. Jobe still has bye so either of those 2 .. if you don't have to trade this week it may be worth waiting for Libba .. seems to have hit premium supercoach form

gab

swanny, steven J, Selwood reckon would be your best bets gab

gab

yeah they all seem like good options, reckon Selwood is my man

gab

also what are your thoughts on CALLAn WARD after this week?

gab

yeah i reckon ward will be up there as top 10 mids for the year looks the goods mate

STICKERS

According to all these comments Bartel and Selwood will be in 90% of peoples teams…

Might be a good P.O.D not to get them..

Something different i guess, could pay off. In saying that i think Bartel in defence is a must have by finals time.

Simon T

Hey there Jock and Super coach community.

I'm currently 2-3 and predicted to lose in both leagues by 58 and 240 respectively but have Montagna as captain tonight. Have made 1 trade so far and not sure whether to make another such as McDonald to Bruce (Saints) – provided he doesn't cop the vest or to Docherty to make some extra cash or leave until next week/week after and use the trade then. Not sure on Bruce's JS or Docherty's scoring potential. Any help/advice greatly appreciated.

Captain joc

What about acres?

billy

hey guys just wondering if I should trade out L Mcdonald to J Tippet now so that I have an extra trade to use for round 9?

Ryan K

Hey Guys,

I have three spots left for premium mids and will fill them in the next couple of weeks.

Which three to choose from these four though?

Jelwood, Watson, Stevie J and Goddard.

Leaning towards the first three, but at his price Goddard is hard to pass up.

Josh

first 3

Bob McBob

If you have the cash to pick the first 3, then do that.

tom

Great Pod-cast Jock Reynolds peter higgionbottham and crouching one and i lam looking forward to Mick the Mad Irishman triumphant return. To payback the INCREDIBLE work you boys do here is my wisdom for the community.
The first part of my wisdom is i will closely follow the St Kilda vs Carlton match tonight with much interest because of the upcoming star Billy Acres however i will not be swayed with a 60 or 70 or even 80 to go to the extent of getting him in my team i will only be satisfied with a 32 possession game with 110 super coach points beside his name. Because i believe it is not worth it to downgrade to a player that is going to slow burn this far into the season. Lets say Billy Acres doesn't achieve my bench mark i will use my trades to swap burgone with McDonald making burgone in the midfield leaving burgone as a keeper in my back line for the rest of the year and then i will trade Mcdonald who is a certain trade out this week because he is now bleeding cash and it is a good time to trade him out for a premium. I am thinking obviously selwood with his price and everything however since he has the Crowley trade and Crowley has been down this year and will probably fight back this week to stop selwood i probably wont does anyone have any suggestions for a upgrade player for Mcdonald.
thoughts appreciated

Josh

tom, this is inspiring stuff and a great idea but don't you think your asking a bit much of Billy? There are next to zero downgrade options this week and if you can name one better than Acres please enlighten me and the community. While some people may have the cash for an upgrade as you clearly do, the majority will have to downgrade first and Acres or maybe Hartung seem like the picks of the bunch.
Your thoughts?

Captain joc

Looks like he heard you loud and clearly tom

BCHawks

hey guys just wondering if I should trade out L Mcdonald to J Tippet now so that I have an extra trade to use for round 9?

Kenny Powers

I ended up using that process .. traded McDonald for Swallow so that I could have 1 down and 2 upgrades next week. May only do 1 upgrade, 1 down but I have now have the option to use 3 trades that will significantly improve my team. Potentially I'll be bringing in 3 premium keepers and 1 late autumn lamb .. cash and points .. I like it!

GarglesnarfFC

Tippett might not even named. Plus I agree with Crouchings assessment of him, flog.

BCHawks

thanks will hold then and trade him out next week for a keeper.

Captain joc

I’m considering not picking up selwood instead going for sloane

Tommykwr

Bit of a POD should keep scoring well

crabb

McD to Jimmy and Hickey to Dixon this week.
Next week Dunstan and Daisy to Pendes and Selwood with flipper down to hartung.

Tommykwr

Not sure about how long Dixon can stay fit for seems like he's always injured

crabb

True, it will be a toss up between him and sauce. It's more if I go to dixon now, and he does pay off with consistent scores (as he will be in the ruck consistently for at least 10 weeks), then i can swing him forward later in the season if there aren't 6 consistently scoring forwards by then.

michael

Vale Tommy Hafey, sad day indeed. Not a Tiges supporter but I think everyone that loves footy will have a heavy heart right now 🙁

Sleepy

Yes very sad. He was a good man and great for footy. RIP Tom:(

akkka

NO footy tonight on free to air tv?

Flacid Jaff

I KNOW! Weekday footy is bad for attendance but good for tv ratings! Why didn't they show it?!

Kenny Powers

Enter J.Webster 1 0 1 2 100% 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 Two contested possessions but only 1 disposal @ 100% – no clanger .. whattha?

Bob McBob

He got possession of the ball, but got tackle and couldn't dispose of the ball?

Leroy Kincade

He's a wannabe hero. Dump him now and get on Docherty

Neilsy

As I said weeks ago,biggest flog of the year.i put him the same boat as siposs last year

throttlefinger

Sloane. Waaaaay ahead of you Jocko. Have had him in my sights for a couple weeks. If Dunstan can earn me a little more moola, make the move even easier.

Nourishing podcast as always.

Captain joc

What’s your twitter throttle?

throttlefinger

Hey CPT J. . Hit me up.

Young Guitar masters

Sloane is a star and has been for nearly 2-years. That Jock bloke is fast becoming irrelevant as a supercoach advisor; all his tips pre-sloane have been for nuffa's Webster, Dawes, Schuey etc, etc etc.
I hope ya got on Docherty for Webster.

throttlefinger

Unfortunately didn't get on Docherty for Webby. Looks like it would've been a great move now, YGM.

Was going to trade out Webster on round 10 but may have to do sooner. Won't do much good bringing Docherty in rd 9 though. Ugh.

Leroy Kincade

The furry pack crunching brick WOMBATS put me on to Docherty as a cash generating high scoring downgrade for mitchell/hodge. The bloke is a guru 🙂
Aint no lies Ice in the eyes of Leroy Kincade – Cold hearted man AC/DC

throttlefinger

Yes, he's definitely a man of many brilliant ideas. And guises.

Feel bad I was the one that recommended Webster to him. Didn't know he would become such a "Problem Child".

Leroy Kincade

Lol, yeah he mentioned that Webster slug in the guts ya gave him. apparently it put his backline on a highway to hell at round 1.

throttlefinger

Yeah, Wombat is always looking to buy the Cadillac but doesn't have the money for the gasoline. Mr. DPB.

Leroy Kincade

Agree his SC team is "feelin like a paper cup floating down a storm drain"

throttlefinger

Trying to do line around SC team and "livin' in a human zoo" because it's one of my favorite Bon lines (and my favorites run well into the 100s).

Better just to bow to you, Lord Kincade.

Leroy Kincade

I'm about to don the headphones and find a relative for that classic

throttlefinger

Yep. Think Powerage will be on my headphones today at work today. Haven't listened in a couple months. Help me motor through my Monday.

Leroy Kincade

Mate I'm listening to Highway again… Gotta love the intro to walk all over you. It's Mitch Robinson all pumped and ready to fire.

Leroy Kincade

CHM wasn't on the Aust release of Powerage, you could only get it as 12" single in the 1981 box set. I was blown away when I heard it on the 'IRONMAN' soundtrack; I thought stephen king was the only AC/DC fan in hollywood

throttlefinger

Hahaha. He seems to lean on the post Bon stuff, though.

Leroy Kincade

Nah Kingy is a huge Bon fan. I can't remember the movie title but the soundtrack 'Who made who?' featured plenty of Bons work.

Leroy Kincade

Best I can do is in relation to those who like to bump "feelin like a christian locked in a cage, thrown to the lions on the second stage. If you want blood….."

Leroy Kincade

Angus borrows his brothers axe and shows Kieth Richards and the stones how to rock. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zg1VjxuJiio

throttlefinger

WOW! Germanics must've been going nuts!

Only thing that's missing is Mick playing the harmonica. Very, very good at that. Early stones with Brian Jones are soooo damn good.

Leroy Kincade

Yeah the Krauts are rather fond of a hard rockin bunch of whitefellas.

Tom

Is Suckling to Enright to sideways???

Leroy Kincade

No its backwards. Look at Docherty for a downgrade

Bowski

How much do you think Docherty appreciate Leroy? I like the look of him too, he's a 1st round draft pick. Looks good.

Cozza

Its not backwards – Enright is more of a keeper than Suckling. However, there are probably better options in the back line like Simpson, McVeigh, Bartel and Hibberd if you don't have any of them

Leroy Kincade

Enright is old and past his best. Sure he's a reliable 80pts but who wants 80pts from their D5 or D6? Answer=somebody who doesn't like winning their league comp or having a shot at the weekly $1,000.

Stickers

1822 prescale.. Robertson’s 12 was a bummer

Hazey

Anyone else appear not to have been awarded double points for a vc loopholed with a bye round player?

Tony from Perth

Thought that was the case but did the maths and it appears I did get the double points

michael

Same with me, did a double take then got the calculator out and all good. 1648 from 18 on field, only 5 tons so a bit disappointed. Thank god I had C on JPK. What’s par this week do you reckon?

BeagzBoyz

Looking at the leagues i'm in, par seems to be around the 1700-1750 mark.

Tony from Perth

How did Acres get 91? Game not on TV in WA but stats don't seem to look like he dominated?? Worth bringing in??

Leroy Kincade

Definitely worth bringing him in Tony. He had a lot of ball and knows where to be to get the easy pozzy. Looks like he learned to play in WA.

GarglesnarfFC

No idea how he got 91! Winged had 5 goals and more possies, won them the game and got 95!

Still trading him in for Dunstan.

David

& didn't even play 3 full qtrs!

Flacid Jaff

He looks talented, and is quick, got a few disposals but coughed it up a few times panicking under pressure. Got subbed out. No idea how he got 91, very puzzling, SC scorers must like him. If he can score that well playing an average game for 3 quarters in a losing side, then he MUST be seriously considered by everyone given the lack of alternative mid season rookies!

Donavan

Hartung v Acres- what re peoples thoughts?

Hartung on the bubblein round 10, Acres in round 11, if they continue to be selected and fit.

Captain joc

Acres is on the bubble this week

GarglesnarfFC

Correct CJ. Downgrade to Acres this week, and Hartung the next as you cannot afford to miss any decent rookies right now because there aren't many around.

jockular

still round 8 lock out…what the?? hoping my 1821 (thanks jpk) gets me up from 8500

Bray

Robertson>Acres

Polec> Steve Johnson

Suckling Pig> Jimmy Bartel

Thoughts community?

Cheers

Pecks

Great move!

Andrew

Pretty good mate but i'd get some cheaper then Johnson.
Fyfe 601K 122 Avg
Rockliff 586K 119 Avg
2 guys who can pull scores of 130-150+
And you'd get them 32-47K cheaper.

gab

the stevie j has had his bye so would consider higher than

throttlefinger

Like SP to Bartel. SJ has a 138 BE and is playing in Perth where he doesn't have the greatest of records vs. Freo. R10 may be better.

Do you have any DPPs in your mids? Maybe Polec for Bartel so you give yourself some flexibility later on. And I selfishly say that as I'm considering doing the same from Dunstan.

Nick

Trading daisy thomos out have heaps of cash in the bank i don't whether to get in swan, Watson, griiffin, ward leaning to swan as he has already had his bye thoughts?

Andrew

Watson looks to be the best pick apart from the fact he has the bye in R10.
Griffin looks like his starting to hit form and is under 500K but has the bye.
Swan and Ward are both great players, but Watson would be my Number 1 pick, coming of a 158, and price at what 523 or something? Can't knock that.

Kenny Powers

What about little Libba? In the same price range and is a tackling machine .. tackles = big points. Ward is usually very clean with the ball, regularly 75+% on DE. Even with a stack of handballs on the weekend and his team getting thumped, he scored 123. Watson probably a better pickup after his bye although his price will go up after that 153 kicks in. Swan is Swan, has had his bye and is available at a good price .. can go real big but can get left in the forward line for too long sometimes. In saying that he is a goal kicker. All are solid picks.

Pecks

Is it worth jumping late onto Sam lloyd? He is $199k with what you would think is great JS. Would allow me to do something with Impey's spot and should gain $140K by round 14 if he averages 60. Any advice?

Andrew

You've probably missed the boat mate.
There's Fletcher Roberts from bulldogs who played his first game this week although JS is pretty average. Have you got Ambrose? His JS is pretty good with players out and his priced at 149.8K? Only problem is he has the bye in R10.

Bowski

Pecks I would be going Ambrose

Kenny Powers

There was talk prior to Richmond's last match that Lloyd would be dropped or get the vest so that may be something to keep in mind. However, he did play and although he didn't get a lot of touches, he scored a solid 74. Adelaide will be blooding a future "lamb" this week who will be a lot cheaper. His job security sounds pretty good if you listen to the coach. Do you have DPP swinger to be able to take advantage of the Mid rookies …

skate or die

da-dada-da-dada-da-dada-dada-da-da!

Andrew

Thinking of 3 trades this week
Hallahan > Acres
Polec > Watson
Terlich > Bartel
Will leave me with 90k in the bank
Team will look like this
Def : Mcveigh, Swallow, Simpson, Bartel, Enright, Langdon (Gergiou, J Tippet)
Mid : Ablett, Watson, Fyfe, Rockliff, Beams, Treloar, J Selwood, Robertson (Acres, Hartung)
Rk: Sandilands, Hampson (Currie, King)
Fwd: Dangerfield, Martin, Zorko, Pavlich, Higgins, Lloyd ( Ambrose, JKH)
Thoughts would be much appreciated community 🙂
P.s, I know Hallahan is still cheap and will go up but it was either trade him like i did or miss the boat on Acres who's price will go up next week and Trade JKH who's price will still go up and i have a plan to trade him after next week where his price should go at least 300k for a young guy from bulldogs called Fletcher Roberts who played his first game and has the bye this week and even if he becomes a doughnut, i still have Ambrose on the bench as a cover. And then with money i'd make from it (probably around 290-295k) I'd hold off on the trades and wait for Lloyd or Robbo's price to peak then go a premium.

Ocker

Stop and take a deep breath son it is just the end of the footy week. Hallahan is still -17 BE why would you trade him? You don't have to have Acres. Trades are gold with the price of rookies. There are plenty of options you have there without parting with Hallahan. Trade Higgins up to a gun, Or Robertson to Acres would make more sense after copping the vest.
Settle down, Fletcher Roberts does not play this week he Might play round 10 which means you don't have to bring him in till round 11 when he is on the bubble.

Cheers.

Andrew

This is just an option, not a final result.
I like Robertson, i reckon his a consistent player but why the green vested him i can't understand.
I never said Fletcher would be a sure thing, seeing how hard forward rookies are to get, he seems like someone to maybe go. As i said, JKH still has money to make so im not going to trade him. A lot of people said trade Langdon after he had a average spell and he came out with that 128 so just because Robertson was green vested, doesn't mean to trade him. If he keeps on being vested then yes i agree but how many times have you seen a player score poorly, get traded out and then bounce back with a big score?

Ocker

Just trying to give you some options, I still have Lagdon and Lanford myself and don't plan on parting with them in the near future due to lack of options forward and back. But looking to make cash because of low BE. Robertson 59 ave and BE of 48 makes him a prime candidate for culling.. You don't need a forward rookie looking at your team. All the money is in the midfield. You ask for an opinion don't knock it. Last years winner said you have to be ruthless sometimes with rookies. This year maybe an exception with their prices but just an opinion like you asked for. Hallahan too Acres in my opinion is a wasted trade. You like Robertson then trade Hallahan to Acres.

Cheers.

Ocker

Not knocking Fletcher either, But you were talking 2 weeks in advance with that one. Other options will arrive soon enough.

Cheers.

GarglesnarfFC

Got to agree with Ocker. Trading Hallahan is insane, good JS and looked bloody good on Friday night in a loss. Is also scoring well in a good team. Much better M8 than Robbo.

With ASADA once again rearing it's ugly head, I would keep clear of Watto this week until we see what happens. Maybe swan or Pendles?

BCHawks

I have worked out my trades for this week and next week and would like some opinions on them.
Round 9
Out Aish In Acres
Out Mcdonald In Hurn ( I know he has a buy but I have enough playing this week)
Out Polec In Bartel (I can then swing him into my defense later)

Round 10
Out Robertson in Hartung
Out Rioli in Wingard
Out Cunningham in Selwood

It would leave me with only 2 rookies on field 1 in defense (KK) and one in my midfield ( Crouch)
Thanks in advance

Jesse

Mate I;ve been keeping a close on eye Hurn and he's come back and looks a very safe pick, whenever he stays on the park he always produces,
I had him and the start and he burnt me but I can see him averaging mid 90s on the way home

David

Jesse you sound like a bloody genius, Loved your input on the podcasts this year.
I like your insight on Hurn I think he will come home like a wet sail unlike jock said
Loved the plump analogy

Leisure Suit Larry

Guys what do you think of this triple trade?

Higgins out for Bock (or another FWD under $200k)

Polec out for Pendlebury

Dunstan out for Jelwood

JX20

A fit & firing Bock at his price – yes. But I'll wait and see how he pulls up after a couple of games if picked. Definitely monitoring his progress in the NEAFL.

Gilly

Does anyone know if Acres was subbed due to injury?

Kev

I don't think so. Still mystified on how he managed 91 from 10 dis @ 70% d.e. Nevertheless, #1 downgrade option this week

SCaddict

Yeah some scores just don't make much sense.

On the flip side Wingard kicks 5 goals, takes a number of marks inside 50 has 17 touches and still can't ton up. I'm not a Wingard owner but would've been peeved by that if I was.

So you have to wonder how closely they audit the scores at times.

Kenny Powers

The problem with the scoring is somebody, somewhere is making a judgement call on the value of each possession. teams of trained statisticians supposedly assess the state of the game, the pressure on the player and the result of a disposal or possession to determine a score for that action. Paddy Ryder got a massive boost for kicking the "winning" goal – when they were already in front! The score boosts players have been given in this situation is often ridiculous, Hanley and Dog Dog are 2 prime examples from last year where they got over 40 points for one kick .. but the best example was the winning free kick and goal just before the siren by Bartel against North .. his score jumped from around 80-something to 149 …

JX20

90% of his possessions were contested & tackled and applied pressure at every contest. Was 79 when subbed out and drifted up to 91 by the end.
Still I was surprised with his score. The propeller heads at Champion Data must have picked him up during the week – but I'm not complaining :p

Kenny Powers

Propeller Heads .. luv it!!! Haha

Dustbin Feltchers

yeah i cant figure it out either, only 10 touches, 1 goal, 5 tackles (58dt) and a few silly mistakes early on..91 seems way too high…

Gazza

Havent pulled any punches this week and have gone with the following:
Cunningham > Ablett
Robertson > Acres
Polec > D.Swallow (via DPP)
Thoughts jock and community?
Cheers

Mike

Can’t argue with that, not sure bout that Ablett fellow being a keeper though.

Tom.H

My current MID structure is:

Ablett, Pendlebury, Libba, Rockliff, Beams, Watson, N.Jones, Crouch (Taylor, Hallahan)

Thinking about my final upgrade to finsh my MIDS which would be full of premos. Would it be better to Uprade Taylor in the mids to someone like Selwood/Sloane OR switch him down into the FWD, bring up Danger and then have a swing option for the remainder of the season. Would then trade Taylor for Gray next round.

My FWD structure atm is Danger, Parker, Zorko, Martin, Fasolo, JKH (Lloyd, Ambrose)

I feel that if i swing Danger up into the MIDS, my FWD line will be exposed too much and i'd have to field Fasolo, JKH and LLoyd, although if i just upgrade Taylor in the MIDS, I would have to go the remainder of the season without a swing option!
Please someone help me as to which option would be better for my team in the long run?
A) Upgrade Taylor in Mids
B) Upgrade Taylor in Fwd
Thanks Community!

jvk16

Looking at doing 1 upgrade and 2 downgrades this week,
I am going suckling to bartel, next week will do the 1 downgrade and 2 upgrades hope to get jelwood/libba/gray
just after opinions, is Georgiou to Tipett worth the trade?
Can see Tipett as being similar to Georgiou get close to 200k before an upgrade if any one comes through,
cant see anyone else really coming through any time soon? cant hold georgiou for ever? need advice!
and
Acres is a must this week just like Hartung will be next week,
so who do we trade out Dunstan or Robertson this week?
advice appreciated as i think others would be in a similar position

The Mullet

Wait and see if Georgiou is named this week. He copped a head knock last week. If he comes back into the team after a week off, that tells me his JS is very good, and he will be my D8 for the rest of the season. But your structure for the byes also comes into calculations as well (Melb R10, Nth R8). Its a risky strategy, but with the lack of low priced rookie defenders on the radar, I've been turning over forward rookies to generate cash to steadily upgrade the defenders to full premos.

Madono

Georgiou is done for the season unless there is an injury down back. He was only elevated off the rookie list to cover for Garland

Liam

Everyone i'd be steering clear of WAYNOS hot tips, look at the track record! Hodge – injured, Goddard – Injured, Fasalo – Injured, Dalhaus – scores a 71 after tonning up 3 times in a row! Thats just off the top of my head, there may be more! Look out those who own chad wingard – Beware the wayno curse……………………!

Nishy

mate shut the hell up waynos a top bloke, he messed with the supercoach gods now he's having a bit of trouble getting back on track.
When you get on Jocks podcast then you can start bagging him
your a disgrace to the game of supercoach

Liam

No bagging anyone mate, it is tongue in cheek!! Like when you say you avoid any horse your mate tips you?? If you couldn't get that from what i read…well that's not my issue! Suggest you might be a young fellow and me thinks maybe a tad slow! Relax champ, i love the podcast and wayno's section, was just pointing out the irony of his hot tips!!

Coffscoast Slurry

Calm done buddy

Neilsy

Pull up nishy,if someone’s in the wrong then it’s ok to identify it,it’s part of supercoach.Mate go to the fridge and pull out a nice cold one and don’t take life so seriously.Just keeping Wayno on his toes that’s all.

Goku

Hey guys just a quick question … Is it worth trading in Fyfe? Or should I go someone who is cheap at the moment like watson?

Fyfe is just a gun!!

medadsson

Simply can't go wrong with Fyfe, constantly wins contested ball, takes contested marks, does all of the hard stuff. Only weakness is his disposal by foot, could easily ave another 20-25 a game if he improved that flaw but most of his possessions are in traffic and usually kicking while under pressure. Beware round 10 bye. Come to think of it, your question has just prompted me to trade him in … thanks 🙂 (PS – similar player is Sloane – very consistent and both have scooby doo shaggy hairstyles!)

Goku

Cheers mate appreciate the info

I like Sloane but can’t go past fyfe at the moment

THE KERNAL

Thoughts on brendan floggard?

Mitch

Should we trade in Ess players ie Watson? What happens if they all get suspended?

MightyDonsFC

They should refund the trade if that happens

Sarah

Finally round 8 is over!!!

This week's trades:

Polec out – Pendlebury IN
McDonald out – Bartel IN
Gleeson out – Acres IN

Very happy to get on the Pendlebury train. He usually dominates Adelaide, West Coast and St Kilda who are his next 3.

Matt

BE 163 could you hold off for another week of two?

Garglesnarf FC

He could hit that this week!

Matt

He could hit that most weeks but if he hits 120 his going down about $20k then next weeks BE about 155 hits 120 again down another 15 to 20k
Its completely up to you and how your sitting. He is a lock for sure just depending how your sitting with cash if you want to hold off and hopefully save some cash ($30-40K) or bring him in now and just keep him locked.

Garglesnarf FC

The Pies have the Crows, WCoast, StKilda, Melbourne and Doggies in the next 5 rounds. I would happily take the punt on him scoring 130+ this week, and go even bigger after that.

I am struggling to decide between him and Swan.

Sarah

Also, I don't care if he only gets 120's and drops a little in price… I'll take the 120 points!! After all, it is a points game and Pendlebury is a SC star!!

Sarah

Ask yourself this question… is it worth 20k to miss out on 120 points?? Especially this week when the alternative is 0 from Polec??!!!

The Ranger

Sounds like a good plan Sarah.
I'm getting him in next week.
This week is….
Higgins, Polec and Ellis OUT
Parker, Bartel and Acres IN
Next week is….
Thomas and Dunstan OUT
Pendles and A.N.Other IN
At least…that's todays plan…

Sarah

Well 'today's' plan sounds good!!

gab

who to trade out first flipper or dunstan?

YourOldMan

Dunstan – I think Flippa will get the 12 out of his system and appreciate another $100K for you

Matthew

Hello community
Just wondering peoples thoughts on Matthew Lobbe
His just coming off a groin injury that kept him out of last game $430 player and someone that you should think would be getting 90+ a game
I have him and wondering if it would be worth keeping him untill the end, keeping him untill Mummy returns and trade him up or trading him now to someone like Jamar
My rucks are Lobbe Sandy Derickx and Thurlow
Thanks

Kenny Powers

Lobbe was left out to give him basically 3 weeks between games .. his back-up Renouf has gone under the knife so Lobbe will be The Lone Ruckman for the rest of the season.

oliverfisher

I have a lot of players out next week, have 18 this week and was thinking of trying to get rid of Dunstan, Laidler and Webster this week so i can look at pulling some more trades next week to get a full team. Looking to upgrade Dunstan and downgrade one defender and upgrade another. Not sure which defenders i should get in, doesn't seem to be many cheap defenders to bring in.

oliverfisher

currently only about 13 players to be playing next week, maximum 15 if Sheed and O'rourke play

Garglesnarf FC

Docherty is on the bubble for blues next week at $285k. Currently averaging 80.5, with good JS. If you want a left field cheapy who will at least go up by $80k, hes your man. Hurn at $420 is a monty as well, absolute bargain basement for a 90+ defender.

Garglesnarf FC

of interest to the community should be the following tweet;

Crows have upgraded 19yr old rookie Charlie Cameron to the senior list to replace Van Berlo. Hope he gets a run Thur against the Pies. Has played very well for the Crows reserve side.

Go Crows

Could be a rare gem FWD rookie downgrade in round 11, he is 122k.

Sarah

Thanks mate! Already got my eye on him. He looks a gem!!

Neilsy

Thoughts on hannerbery as a premium mid in your sides at end of year?Currently punching out some good numbers?

Dan

Daisy gone, Dusty in = 85k…….bargain.
Plus bonus neck tattoo and crap haircut.

Kenny Powers

Happy to see you getting Daisy out but Martin could be a bit risky bringing in .. hasn't been disastrous but hasn't been a shining light either. Jamie Elliot will cost more but has been very consistent, as has Parker. For about the same price there is Dalhouse or Bruest. Gunston is available for the same money as Martin but doesn't have mid DPP.

dean

Need some help please community.
Thomas > Pendles
Mitchel > HIbberd
Suckling > Bartel

OR

Thomas > Sloane
Mitchell > Hibberd
Mcdonald > Bartel

OR

MItchell > Bartel
Thomas > Acres

Beady Eye

If you can get Pendles in without completely warping your team, you do it.