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PODCAST: Round 8 Community Night podcast

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Supercoach 2014 preseason podcast

It’s bye time community!

Not a time to mope around like a bad smell.

A time to RISE up the rankings.

A time to STICK IT to the competition in your league.

A time to eat adversity and crap thunder.

Let’s rip straight into another Thursday night community podcast!


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Brad

Where's Mick gone Jock? πŸ™ :'(

CashCows

sounds like pi$$ poor excuse, bloke needs to quit and get back in the game…..priorities jock priorities..

Stevo

g'day jock looking forward to another brilliant thursday night podcast, love your work mate! Quick question, what are you thoughts on going j.merrett > ambrose seeing as there are scarce quality forward and mid rookies? Being an Essendon supporter am a bit iffy about his JS but would love your thoughts! Thanks mate

BCHawks

Great Stuff Jock!

throttlefinger

Made a rainy Brooklyn morning sunny. Gonna sip in the wisdom on the way to the grind.

Faz

worth trading impey to ambrose? my fwd line is Danger, Gray, Parker, Riewoltd, zorko, higgins (lloyd, impey)

Gold Rush

You can't be any worse off that's for sure and you get to pick up some trash cash.

Flacid Jaff

Great trade! Impey losing money and Ambrose set to make heaps! even if he only plays a few more games!

josh

pyke to derrick (he will take number 1 role at swans)

gab

gives you cash, and anyway derricx looks alot better than pyke

Matt

im doing the same thing, love having some cash to go for pendles

matt

yeah im getting money to go bang and polec out for pendles

dognino

Is there no one else you could trade for pendles? I'm holding polec and he will be the very last rookie traded out, if at all, could be handy bench cover in the final weeks if you lose a mid and lack trades

Steve

Would it be crazy to dump sandi, raise cash and put Derrick in

Jack

Yes

James

Hi Community,

Should I downgrade Lewis Taylor to Patrick Ambrose this week? I have 4 lions players and Taylor isn't making that much money. In total I have 15 players that are expected to be out in the round 10 bye if Taylor stays.

For my second trade should I either upgrade Sam Mitchell or downgrade one of Luke McDonald or Luke Dunstan?

Help is much appreciated

James

How does Luke McDonald to Darcy Gardiner and Lewis Taylor to Patrick Ambrose sound?

Trade Mitchell next week.

SCaddict

I'm pretty meh about both those trades but if you have to generate cash right now you have to do what you have to do.

There just aren't many decent downgrade options out there this round.

Azmataz

Get rid of Mitchell mate, hold Taylor this week

Anthony

You’re a legend jock. Cheers for all your great work.

shallots

hi i just wanna give some shouts out to players in my team- first of all to georgiou- hey alexis- i kept you in my team and all you had to do is cover the byes and you couldnt even do that you dirtyl lil maggot. therefore you have been useless as a SC player and wont even earnme 1 measly point when i need you. so you can go and get flowered you weak plow!!!!!!!!! And ashby- all you had to do was play over the byes and you couldnt even do that!!!

did i mention georgiou? you weak flower- you can power off you shower cow!!!! you are flowerin useless and make me most annoyed. in fact im probably the stupid shower for having you in my team. so georgiou this is the last time i mention your name- flower off flowerwit- you are fired you demon maggot!!

gab

sam mitchell first

The Ranger

Going Mitchell to McVeigh and Impey to Ambrose after which I'll have 222K in the kitty.
Do I trade Luke McD out this week or not?
Could go to Acres for more cash generation.
Could go up to a Simpson or Walker but that would leave me no spare cash for next week.
Could even go to Schoenmakers and still have 247K for next week.
Tempted by this last one even tho its a sideways move. I reckon he'll earn me a bit of cash as I think Cheney will slip into the Lake sized hole and he'll continue to be used as the swingman.
Got 22 trades left.
Thoughts community?

Flacid Jaff

Those trades look fantastic!
Shoey is best 22 nd cheap! Might not want him come finals but he should score well and could make as much cash as a hartung or acres!

tyzsb

Have only got 18 trades left if I use 3 this round I will only have 15…. (I am on RDT)

I AM STUFFED!!!

Matt

Yeah you could be in plenty of trouble if you don't slow down on the trades son.
Hard to understand how you have used so many trades

Azmataz

You'll be alright mate,I've got 18 left after this round..no need to worry..just no sideways trading unless injury! Welcome

Gary

hooker and burgoyne? or hibberd and birchall?

Bob McBob

Hard choice. Burgoyne and Hibberd will be consistent in scoring this year, however Hooker and Birchall's scoring may fluctuate a lot through out the year

Luke

I'm thinking H. Shaw and Bob Murphy. Not hearing much about these boys who have prove themselves over and over (maybe because they're in crap teams but this should suit the defenders)

Mungos Men

had my eye on both since round 1, will bounce on heater in coming weeks! looking red hot despite poor score on the weekend! proven SC premo…

Joni

G'day all, what do people think about trading Dunstan for Ward? Ideally I would like to do the swap before round 10 but I'm worried that if Dunstan doesn't get a big score in the next two rounds then the trade could cost an extra $250k compared to $200k if swapped now. Of course, by trading now I won't have Ward for round 9. Thanks guys!

Bob mcobo

Nothing wrong in trading in Ward now.

Joni

Yeah it’s probably best to trade him this week as I’ve got Webster, Aish and Flipper I’m looking at trading for round 10. Thanks mate

Matt

Ward is bound to get tagged this week without Treloar playing

Bray

Mitchell > Birchall

Luke McDonald> Hallahan

Impey> Ambrose

Thoughts.?

Cheers community

Gary

I like birchall, feel like he could benefit with Mitchell being out, although his form this year has been fairly average he's a proven scorer in the past so could be a good move and POD. Other trades (on top of Mitchell > Birchall) would give you plenty of cash for upgrades so seems like a fairly good idea, unless you're already low on trades that is.

Derek

Birchell is an excellent choice. He is under performing and therefore you know he will eventually come good. Mind you his below average is still ok. Unlike bergone who you know is over achieving and will come back. I put swallow in the over achieving category as well.

Murphy to expensive for what you get

GarglesnarfFC

Why hot Hartung instead of Hallahan? The Hawks are raving about how good Hartung is and you haven't missed a week of price rise like you have with Hallahan.

Bray

Because I’m not quite sure on Hartungs Job Security, where as I feel Hallahan will play more games then him.

Nick

G'day community
If I was going to upgrade daisy thomos next week who would you say are good premium options blokes around the 500k -550k

Bob mcobo

Def: Bob Murphy, Hanley (bottoms out in 2ish weeks), Hurn (bottoms out next week)
Mid: Selwood, Watson, Goddard (bottoms out next week), Griffen
Fwd: Roughead, Wingard

Branks

Watson or Selwood.

Bowski

Tough to split them. Watson seems under valued. Both uber premiums, who I think will be in the top 10 miss.

ben

watson selwood liba griffen save money

Bowski

Acres or Hartung? Keen to hear people thoughts.

Markb

I have the same issue mate. I would think Hartung for higher scores but surely Acres has better Job Security.

Matt

If Hartung does't get named as sub then Hartung without a doubt

Captain joc

Only got 14 playing with no trades done so far georgiou out and tom Mitchell not playing hurts

I’m thinking

Thomas to Ambrose via Taylor

S.mitchell to walker

Jaensch to birchall

Other players I could trade out are georgiou, pyke or tom Mitchell only got 19 trades left and in top 900

Any thoughts?

GarglesnarfFC

That sounds solid CJ

Captain joc

I’m leaning towards doing t Mitchell to Breust/roughead instead of the jaensch trade

chandanrajdb

S Mitchell to A Walker Lock it in….no second thoughts on that…..I am doing that exact trade myself this week…….which I am happy with and hope pays off…..

when you say Thomas….is it M Thomas (Richmond)?…..if yes he has to go…..i got rid of him last week for Jobe Watson……in your case M thomas to P Ambrose looks solid….I am bringing him into my team by trading out Georgiou……which will generate some sort of cash….

The third one is bit a tricky one…..I have got Roughead in my team and he is bit too inconsistent with his scoring…..but in saying that he has dropped off in price by a huge margin….I will give him a go….Bruest not too much of a proven premium and IMO I wouldn't be bringing him into my team at all this year…..

Have a look at L Dahlahaus, R Gray, C Wingard (Its a bit brave choice here, may be a good F7??), L Parker…..

Jaensch to G Birchall or Bob Murphy not a bad selection either….If you can hold off him this round and go for Bartel next round….

My 2 Cents….

Cheers,
Raj….

taylorwoof

Wonderful Podcast Jock, Crouching and Community.

So much fat to chew on…….

All the best to everyone this weekend with your teams!

Dom

What do I do with Clurey?

Elias

If you have a mid/def player in your mids, you could swing that player back and trade Clurey out for one of the few rookies playing (hartung, acres)
OR
Upgrade him to a premium defender if you have the cash, or possibily a mid-pricer.

Otherwise hold him and use him to make use of the loophole.

Captain joc

I’m doing 2 trades so far which gives me 16 playing
S.Mitchell to Walker
M.Thomas to Ambrose via Taylor
Now for the 3rd trade and to get me 17 playing I have 3 options
Option 1. Jaensch to Murphy/Birchall/Hooker
Option 2. Pyke to mcevoy(although I could wait till next week and get Jacobs instead) so which one out of them 2?
Option 3. T.Mitchell to roughead/Breust
Please comment which you think is the best option

Flacid Jaff

T.Mitch to Roughead

Captain joc

I was thinking Breust instead

Rosco

Can I still use the emergency loophole? I have Sandi, Trent West, Derickx & Max King. At the moment R1 is Sandi & R2 is West, Derickx emergency. Say Derickx tons up tonight, can I still bring King on for West meaning I get Derickx's score? Or do they all have to be "on the field"? Does anyone know?

Rocksta

Yes,
You can still use the Emergency Loophole

Rosco

Thanks mate.

ben

what about flibber to gray swop wingard

ben

what happned to tight arse tuesday

Matt

Check out Jocks Reply to the very first comment

chandanrajdb

Hello Community,

I am really struggling with the 3rd trade…..the other 2 trades are locked and i am happy with those trades…..but this last one is doing my head in…..need communities help in regards to this……

Trades I am looking to do this week….

OUT: S MItchell, A Fasolo & A Georgiou

IN: A Walker, L Dahlahus & P Ambrose…..

The third trade which I am struggling with…..do I just do 2 trades and downgrade Langford next week to B Acres or Hartung…..

What I am not sure of is P Ambrose's JS…..by doing this trade I will loose my swing of MID to DEF but I will have the swing of MID-FWD…..Next week I dont think i can do Langford to B Acres….which means that I will have to do a downgrade of one of the MID rookies (between L Dunstan and J AIsh…..Aish I dont want get rid off him next round but definitely before his RD 10 BYE he will be gone…..)

By doing Georgiou to Ambrose will generate nearly $80k in the warchest is this enough to burn my 1 trade??….and My trade plans for next week is that I get rid of Suckling, Langford and (one of the MId rookies) to do couple of downgrades (1 is for sure which will be B Acres, and the 2nd rookie to downgrade I am not sure at the moment……) and bring in J Bartel and after RD 9, bring in J Selwood and another Premo and B Hartung (only if he is named to play his 3rd game in RD10) into my team who had their BYE in RD8 & RD9…….

OR

Shall I just downgrade Georgiou to K Aylett…playing his 1st game….JS is big ??? to just keep that DEF – MID swing alive…..

Thoughts would be appreciated community…..I am ranked well enough and would like to maintain that…….

Very hard decision and struggling to make the firm decision…….

Cheers,
Raj……

toonking

Do you think trading Fasolo down to Ambrose is a good option?

toonking

Make some cash off Ambrose as Fasolo comeback date is doubtful.

Then use money to upgrade Lloyd to a premium in a couple of weeks??

Flacid Jaff

They say the Faz is 50-50 for rd 9! But he will definately play out the season after that, scoring well and making cash! I guess it depends then on how you are looking for rd 9?

Ambrose though, even if he only plays a few more games, will make you heaps too, and going down to him at 102 grand will add to you're warchest imediately. Look to get him in for someone else if possible.

toonking

Have only got Kennedy Harris and Lloyd with more cash to expend from them….particularly with K-H's 112 against Adelaide

Flacid Jaff

What to do with Impey?

Like alot of sides I imagine, my rd 9 & 10 byes looks a breeze but I'm struggling to get 18 on the park this week. Thus I'm going C.Young to Watson and McDonald to Wingard. This gives me 17. I'm also very keen on Roughead this week, but who for? I have Lloyd, Fasolo and Impey, I'd love to keep Lloyd & Fasolo, they're looking up at me with those big, wide, trembling eyes, just desperate to make me lots more cash in the coming weeks! and Impey is set to drop 15-20 grand when he is changed from starting pocket to starting sub like he has for weeks. If I trade Faz or Lloyd I'd be effectively spending the 50-100 grand they stand to make in the next month PLUS the 15-20 grand Impey will drop! All for whatever points Impey can get me this week! Then again, any week they don't let Gary Ablett play is a week I need to win! I'm siting at 1-4 and need to make my move.

Any advice is welcome community. I don't know how much cash a league win is worth.

Cheers

GeneralSoreness

This week is the De-Mitchell-fying week, Tommy can't crack a run and Smitch is old and busted.

Thinking Tmitch to Cyril and Smitch to Walker.

Thoughts? Viable alternatives? Trades and $$ are not an issue.

chandanrajdb

Both trades looks solid IMO…..I am doing S Mitchell to A Walker myself this week…..

Cheers,
Raj….

Pete

Thank god for your podcast, the other guys cant even get theirs to down load to iPhone!

well played Jock

Andrew

Jaencsh to Birchall, Burgoyne, Hodge, Gibson or Simpson?

toonking

Hodge

Todd

Simpson. Avg over 95 in his past couple of years and has only missed 4 games in the past 180

Matt

Simpson

nishy

Gday Boys how ya gern,
What are your thoughts On bloody Kieran Jack as VC loophole then Sandi As C if he fails?
Cheers boyz

Philthy

good call

Elias

Cheers for the Podcast!.

Community I'm in a pickle as to what trades to make.
I have 320k in the bank and am looking to trade out MCDONALD and Tommy MITCHELL. Both are in my mids and can be swung back or Forward respectively. The options I'm considering are.

1)
Ward (prem mid at that price) + Hartung/Acres (rookie Mid)

2)
Ward + Ambrose

3)
Rob Murphy (or keeper defender) + Rookie Mid

4)
Murphy + Ambrose

5)
Rookie Mid + Wingard.

FWIW:
I need 350k for my round ten trades of Cutler and Aish to Hurn and Selwood. In round 9 I will look to trade Janesch to another Prem defender and possibly downgrade Langford or one of the Brisbane rookies to another rookie to generate cash (if applicable).

will be able to have 19 on the park each week of the bye rounds providing I trade no more than 1 round 10 player into my side this week.

Love to hear your thoughts community.

Captain joc

I would bring in Ambrose as there dosn’t seem to be many fwd rookies so I’d jump all over him then being in ward in Mids

chandanrajdb

Option 2 all the way mate….looks really good IMO….

Cheers,
Raj,….

Tom.H

Do the players with the byes immediately get locked out as soon as the round starts? Or can we trade them throughout the week

themightyroos

You are able to trade them out until final lockout(last game or round)

Holsh

This is one from left field but how does everyone see Sam Docherty as possible option as a DEF? Played reasonably well against an on fire Pies, seems to have secured a midfield role and should be better for the run. Only around $285K. Thoughts?

Sully321

IMO wait one more week of that's possible

tension head

hey guys. I, like most ppl here am pretty keen on brining in Ambrose this week. but who should I sacrifice? j merrett or fasolo? an leaning towards merrett as fas looks better long term

Tom.H

Merrett. Fasolo will continue to make you cash, whereas Merrett will not. Dump merrett!

Sully321

Hi community,
I've got two options to do with Sam Mitchell
1) swap Mitchell with Langdon into the middle and trade in Libba, jpk, Jobe, Murphy etc. leaving me with a very strong midfield and a weak back line
2) trade Mitchell for mcveigh, Johnson, hibberd, hooker etc.
Your thoughts would be appreciated. And which player to go with I've got 564,000 to play with

Tom.H

I woudl trade into the MID and have a strong midfield. You've got to think about the future too. If you can get your midfield set now, you won't have to worry about it for the rest of the season!
I'm trading Mitchell with Langdon into the middle and then trading in Jobe

Jontyone

Thoughts on Heath shaw community?

Tom.H

Nope, not going to risk it with him. Get a better DEF like Hibberd, McVeigh, Simpson etc.

tension head

there is a reason he is on most ppls never again list. way too inconsistent. u just cant rely on him when the whips are cracking

Tom.H

Watson or Ward?

tension head

watsons looking like a man with alot on his mind. id go ward

Bob McBob

Who are the 3 best Fwd options under $450k? I'm stuck in choosing either Wingard or Roughead and not sure on what to do

Big Unit

Roughead has at least shown glimpses of form, Wingard has been generally down. Roughead is in my team already and so for my sake I'd hope he comes good as well. That said I am looking at getting in Wingard after his bye though.

Aidan

Thoughts on bringing Ambrose in this week?

Tom.H

YES. get him in

Sean

G'day community, wouldn't mind a bit of help on who to pick out of Burgoyne, Malceski, Simpson and Hooker in SC. Leaning on Burgoyne because of recent form.
Cheers

Tom.H

Burgoyne is playing above himself, and you really don't know how he will go for the rest of the season. Go with someone who has proven premium output and who you know will continue to produce premium output for the rest of the year. Go with Simpson

Sean

Yeah good point Tom, thanks mate.

Andrew

I'm I a similar position and will be going with Simpson! Consistent and POD.

chandanrajdb

Simpson….Would be my choice….

Cheers,
Raj…..

Boydo

Can you trade out a round 8 bye player during the weekend to another player who hasn’t played yet or do you have to do that before tonight’s lockout. Eg Mcdonald to Aylett if he isn’t named sub.

Tom.H

yes

Boydo

Thanks mate

Boydo

Yes after tonight’s lockout I take it.

Rescued Pieman

Anyone ballsy enough to go with Higgos trade Abblett plan?

Tom.H

LOL never

Rescued Pieman

Reaks of desperation for mine

Tom.H

Who is the best MID around 500k to bring in this week, that will have 110+ avg for the rest of the season?

chandanrajdb

Ward……I would have thought based on his recent scores……wouldn't be this cheap any time soon…..get on the ride this week if u can…..

Cheers,
Raj…..

Sully321

Watson or Libba?
And a defender downgrade option for McDonald

Tom.H

Watson
& there's not downgrade options for McDonald

Mozz

Schoenmakers is not a good idea. Waste of a trade

Danners16

Hey guys, in 10min I will be online to answer your questions for 30min depending on how many questions I get

MightyDonsFC

G'day fellas, since last weeks articles went pretty well I've decided to have another crack at reviewing some players for the round, hope you enjoy.

Defenders: Andrew Walker: $491,900 Avg. 88.5 BE 90 HS 109 LS 64 Bye rd
Since his switch to defence, Walker has been a revelation for supercoach. He got off to a slow start this year, with a 64 89 and 74 next to his name from his first three rounds. However, his last three rounds have produced an average of 101.3. So far this season Walker has averaged 24.2 disposals, 2.6 tackles, 2 I50's and 6.7 R50's per game. Carlton aren't exactly the best team in the competition right now, so there will be no shortage of ball supplied to Walker. He hasn't gone below 21 disposals this year and is Carlton's #1 rebounding defender. Walker averaged 106 last year, was one of the best rebounding defenders in the AFL last year and is definitely one to look out for to put in your team.

Predicted average: 102-104

Watch out for: Hurn and Hanley.

Midfielders: Callan Ward $509,700 Avg. 109.7 BE 50 HS 145 LS 48 (sub affected) Bye rd
I left him out last week, but feel he must be mentioned this week. Keeping in mind his concussion affected games, Ward has averaged 26.4 disposals, .3 goals, 7.3 clearances, 5.6 tackles and 3.3 I50's per game. Ward has stepped his game up this year and is firming as one of the elite midfielders in the competition. He's developed his outside game a lot more this year and his disposal count is looking the better for it. He's also getting a lot more help from the other GWS midfielders, especially Treloar and Coniglio. If you ever had a rule against getting GWS players, abolish it for this bloke!

Predicted Average: 109-111

Watch out for: Goddard, Selwood, Acres and Hartung.

Forwards: Luke Breust $468,300 Avg 103:9 BE 74 HS 140 LS 66 Bye rd 9
Luke Breust is taking his game from good forward pocket to elite forward pocket who has a run in the midfield. Breust has only gone under 80 once, and so far this season he's averaged 19.3 disposals, 3 goals, 2.7 tackles and 3 I50's per game. Already one to consider before Mitchell's injury, we saw Breust push into the midfield in the win against St.Kilda. This especially exciting for us coaches because it means midfield scores for a forward. I'm a massive fan of Breust in real life and in supercoach, and has got to come into consideration for your forward line.

Predicted average: 103-105

Watch out for: Wingard, Ambrose and Honeychurch

lostlarrikin

Great stuff mdfc
Good to see u stepping up again to fill the void

Danners16

Alright guys fire away with your questions about supercoach! 30min depending on how many comments there are.

BCHawks

Who are you trading Mitchell to if you have him and why? And also what to do with L Mcdonald? I have very little cash in the bank? Thanks.

Danners16

I was going S.Mitchell to S.Burgoyne since he has done pretty well recently and should do better with Mitchell not there, L.McDonald to J.Tippett so it doesn't ruin my bye structure, but I would downgrade him since you don't have much cash so you can upgrade a cow into a premo next week

BCHawks

Thanks I am going to wait till next week to see if J. Tippett is named and then I will trade McDonald for him.

Forbesy

Hey Danners
Thinking about getting out X Ellis, L McDonald and S Mitchell
Who are the best three options for these positions
Cash is a bit tight
Do i trade mitchell into my midfield and trade ellis down
What are your thoughts?

Danners16

Tough one, I would probably go X.Ellis to B.Acres/B.Hartung depending on your bye structure, L.McDonald to J.Tippett/D.Gardiner (same as before), and S.Mitchell to S.Burgoyne/C.Hooker

Forbesy

Thanks mate

Danners16

That's all I have guys, I'm not sure whether there will be one next week as I'm going to a place I'm not sure it has internet. Thanks

Jack

Who's the best defender under $467,000?

Hello

At the moment, Bob Murphy or Broadbent

tyzsb

How are the priority trades out of Sam Mitchell,Matthew Jaensch,McDonald and Jackson Merret…..

Have 18 trades left have not done this rounds trades… yes I know I traded like a madman but I could not resist…

Was thinking about doing 3 trades this week and then only doing 1 trade in the next coming byes

Sam Mitchell to Michael Hibberd

Matthew Jaensch to Kade Simpson

Jackson Merret to Patrick Ambrose

Thoughts Cheers Ty P.S Sorry I'm a bit late….

tyzsb

Then using only one more trade with the cash left I can upgrade Matthew Crouch to Stevie J

MightyDonsFC

Hey Danners, opinion on getting on possibly a 400k Hurn?

Danners16

Sounds pretty good if you have your bye structure worked out and you don't have too many missing the Round 9 bye

Bill

Are players that have the lockout like Fasolo locked after after tonight?? Or can I trade them tomorrow??

Danners16

This is from a page I like on Facebook "Players with the bye this round do not lock out until the last game of the round. This means they are able to be used as a captain's loophole, and can be traded or substituted (to a player that hasn't played in the round so far) until full lockout (after the Monday night game commences)"

chandanrajdb

Would be a good D7 and use him in the E loophole if he goes big….I would be trying to slot him in as soon as he bottoms out…..his only concern is INJURY problem…..

Cheers,
Raj…..