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PODCAST: Round 5 Community podcast

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Supercoach 2014 preseason podcastIt’s community podcast time!

Hanley. Mumford. Daisy Thomas. Crouch. Rohan. Caddy. Lloyd.

These are just some of the blokes on the mind of the collective community this week as we deliver our 3rd community night podcast of the season.

Again the community has stepped up to the plate tonight  – let’s get stuck straight in

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Hey guys, love the podcasts. I would love your thoughts on two trading options I’ve got this week. The first being TYSON & HANLEY to CROUCH & SIMPSON.
The second is TYSON & ROHAN to CROUCH & FASOLO – this would mean Hanley is stuck in my backline for another week (I’ve got Webster on the pine atm), and it means Fasolo is a forward starter which I need with L.Taylor, Ambrose, JKH & Rohan (atm).
Leaning towards option 2 with the idea of bringing in someone for Hanley next week, cheers fellas would love any advice.


Confused as to why you want to trade Tyson? Hold.


Seems to me you should be trading oyt your forward bench before anything! Rohan and JKH now! Tyson hasnt mooed loud enough yet.


thoughts on having 4 rookies in the mid? daisy to crouch. polec,dunstan,tyson then choose out of ellis, aish and crouch to play mid 8. thoughts?


yes, lots of cash will be generated, so upgrade to premos after the byes asap


sweet thanks mate. thomas to crouch, rohan ro fasolo 280k in the bank 26 trades left. very nice!


Really want to pick up Lloyd as a rookie fwd, but concerned about the fwd r8 bye players, already have Danger, Martin and ill be picking up Fasolo this week, but 3 is enough, with lloyd in there I, and many others will have 4 r8 bye fwds and on top of the 4-5 r8 bye mids that is not acceptable. Lloyd needs a great score this week as the week 2 score is used for 2 breakevens but his great 131 is only in 1 break even, if he gets a 40 tommorow he will have a nice BE for next week, but the week after's BE will be not so good as the BE will not use his 131 but the 40 and what ever he will be after that. I'm holding for now, nothing less than 65 for me to bring him in,


It will be based on 3 game rolling avg 131 + 40 + ??? lets say 70 = 241/3 = 80ppg avg he is priced at 21ppg so will make good coin first week


At that price no risk really


also might be 2 downgrade targets on bubble next week


I've had enough of Daisy, GOOOOOONNNEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hanley to MID bench, McDonald to starting BACK

Daisy to Crouch (who i don't really want…… but)

Impey to Pav, BOOOOOMMMMM!!!

Forward line locked away, Hanley ready to swing BACK when McD hits top $$ to trade for fallen MID premo, i love you community, this podcast is my religion and Jock you are my idol


That flexible team sounds real nice, I traded my swingers out of mid round 2 🙁


Isn't Hanley only out for a week or 2?
And how long is Goddard out? Afl site isn't working


Goddard has injured his adductor and is expected to return round 6-7

Hanley has injured his hamstring and is expected to return round 8-9

According to herald sun supercoach gold ^


Brisbane have round 10 bye, I would’nt be surprised to see Hanley out until after bye


Agreed Derek if they can't get him on the track until round 8-9 that surely wont risk him before the bye.
Or will they? Queenslanders are the sharpest knives in the drawer and they'll probably think its ok to bring him back early because the bye will give him time recover if it breaks again.

Donut King

Jock I know you were keen on a one Josh Caddyhack and Jimmy Webster. What would you do/ have you done with them? Traded or held we want to know and I speak for the whole community, a lot of which own both, when I say this.

Please help!


Caddy massive BE so trade this week. He was meant to be a quick stepping stone to a premo, so if u can turn him into a bruest etc and then maybe get crouch in to cover cost. If u got Macdonald in mids you could effectively trade webster for crouch, and as jock would say, solving 2 probs stimulantaneously! Then can worry about Lloyd next week.

Rooster tails

I pulled the trigger on Caddy. I dropped Aish and brought Crouch on to my bench. Banked 140k then straight swapped CaddySlack for big Pav. Still got drama with Mummy but I dont want to use a trade to get him out cos I used one to get him in after round 1. I might hold him for one more week and hopefully his situation is made a little clearer to us then I can decide what im going to do with him. A waste as he was aiming to be a top ruck option this year


Ok Jock. What would you recommend I do instead of moving on from that pair?
Here's my team:
Defence: S Mitchell, J McVeigh, D Swallow, M Suckling, L McDonald, T Langdon, J Webster, A Georgiou
Midfield: G Ablett, S Pendlebury, D Beams, T Liberatore, J Polec, L Dunstan, X Ellis, J Aish, M Crouch, L Taylor
Rucks: A Sandilands, M Lobbe, D Currie, T Derickx
Forward: P Dangerfield, D Martin, L Franklin, M Wright, T Mitchell, J Caddy, G Rohan, J Kennedy-Harris
Thanks 🙂


I had a trigger happy finger and moved Caddy on to Rioli when I saw he was starting as sub. I'm worried Caddy could continue to be sub and both bleed cash and not score well. As for Webster, I'd suggest to hold unless you've got the cash to upgrade him.


Caddy won’t be sub this week. Cats will rest one of their big boys and play Caddy against the Hawks to com at the fast ball movement


Alright community, what should I do, I'm either going to downgrade Cunningham for Matt Crouch, producing 89k OR should I downgrade Caddy to Fasolo generating aprox 90k. Cunningham's BE is 10 so he will most likely go up in price and Caddy's BE is something like 94 so he will go down this week. What should I do!


Cunningham, have you got a trade plan for Lloyd if he busts out another big score?? Tiges have dropped Vickery…. Caddy's potential minor loss may be insignificant if Lloyd is going to outscore Fasolo which i think he might


If you have a dual position FWD/MID in your midfield you could swap them with caddy, trade caddy down to crouch and if Sam Lloyd or Sam Gray have decent games on the weekend, for next weeks trades you can take out one of your midfield rookies eg Xavier Ellis, Dom Tyson swap back the FWD/MID back to your midfield and trade in Sam Gray or Sam Lloyd in your forward line


Thanks for answering my questions about daisy – crouch, THANKS CHAMP


Love the work of the community in the podcast.
Like a lot of people I'm up shit creek with the fallen lions.
Thinking of the following trades:

Hanley to => Mitchell/Simpson/Broadbent/Murphy/Picken
Luenberger to => Lobbe,Minson, Nic Nat or Jacobs

For the bye rounds, I need to trade to players with the round 9 bye. Gut told me not to start Mitchell (which looked great when he got injured) and I am still weary of him. Very interested in one of the doggy boys as a bit of a consitent P.O.D
As for the rucks, Jacobs seems the only logical choice but he has the dreaded round 8 bye. Is it too drastic to take a punt on Lobbe? Also think Dog Dog is about 2 weeks from going nuts so considering trading to him now, rather than wanting to burn another trade to get him.

Ideally I'd love to hold Hanley and trade out Clurey who is doint nothing and won't do anything, but I can't see any player in DEF under 350K worth getting as a cash cow. Are there any community??

Keep up the good work.

The Garbo

Trent West could be a real interesting ruck option to replace looey on your side – will make some money and put up decent scores that you could potentially cope with.

Kolodazni will make SOME cash in def.

Lobbe doesnt look like he'll live up to the pre season hype. Sauce could be the best fit as there isnt a whole heap of risk picking him besides your rd 8 bye issue.


Looking for a sanity check on my actions this week please guys.

Hanley – Entire defensive line should play this week excluding him. What's the point in having depth if I flick premiums the second they suffer injury. Holding.

Caddy and thomas + $672,800
Fasolo and Crouch – $330,900

Somewhat sideways trading to players with higher growth potential and most importantly puts an extra $341,900 into the kitty.

So when my MID cows start to top out (Polec, Aish, Dunstan, Tyson) I should be in a position to make one of them literally any player in the league I want or potentially upgrade two of them to mis $500K+ premiums.

is there any way I can not make these trades?


Happy to bench Hanley (I am also), are you going for league wins or overall?

I'd really only trade Caddy in this situation but I think everyone is way to quick to jump on Fasolo, false idol me thinks

Thomas won't burn a huge hole, you will be able to cash a MID or 2 soon for a Morabito or alike and up Daisy to a fallen premo, same for Caddy

In short, at least they are playing and if this is your only problem i would hold and see what Lloyd does


Going for league. In an extremely competitive league where making finals will be a challenge. 2-0 thus far, but have a very tough 4 game run starting next week.

Thanks for the input, gives me a bit to think about.

Agree on the Fasolo part. Don't expect him to be banging out 100s every week but think there's an easy 100K+ in him and probably fine to fit into lower Forward position or bench long term if need be.


If you pull the trigger on Fas, the sooner you get him to F7 the better, good luck!!


How mant trades have people used already?


4. including 2 this week.


Too damn many, Scan.




i know you said no to caddy to fasolo..

What if we have JKH and Rohan.. who do we trade in for them


Hold this week, look at Sam Llyod next week, also a few other rookies playing their first this week so look at them in two weeks time as well. If you haven't already, bring in Crouch and upgrade Caddy if possible.


It’s a pitty Lions play first. Won’t be able to hold off doing the Hanley trade by seeing what the bench boys can do first. Same problem next week bris play Friday. Going to have to bite bullet and trade Hanley to Britchell


Beautiful. Some brilliance to listen to at work that will drown out the office nonsense. Well done.

Considering not moving Webster as well. Have CCameron so using him as a loop between Webby and Langford. Caddy, will wait another week and see what pops up. Lloyd looking like best bet, but may go upstream for a bigger fish.


Have you decided what you are doing with Mummy TF?


Dealing with him next week, SCaddict. Not enough this week to go to Jacobs. Hope to wait then decide between him and Minson.

Plan can go south if Currie is a no go. Asking the SC gods to grant me this one favor…JUST ONE!


that song was possibly the weirdest thing I have ever heard

Beady Eye

Some people need to know their limitations. Not everyone is the voice of their generation like Higgo.


why is matt crouch such a priority when there's rookies looking to score better such as Lloyd and Gray. Are we not better to hold off a week and then take our pick next week with potentially higher outputting rookies generating more cash? i mean crouch is not even really scoring that great…..
or is there something i am missing?


Good to cash in for now if it buys you out of other problems…


Crouch got 45 in half a game and 80 in a full one. Gray and Lloyd will have to prove that last week wasn't a fluke this weekend to be considered for my team

Beady Eye

Because Lloyd is a small forward who won't kick 3 every week, and Gray (while not traditionally a small forward from what I've heard) is also playing that role by necessity. Just look at JKH for how small forwards can score. Young Crouching on the other hand, averaged 38 touches a game in the TAC and is a ball magnet of the highest order. With Van Berlo and brother Brad out injured, there's also midfield time up for grab, so he's far more likely to continue pumping out decent scores. That's what you're missing 😉


Lloyd isnt a "small fwd" hes quite tall!!

The Garbo

Lloyd was on track for another big game – racking up the ball. Then he took a big clash to the head and didnt look right for the remainder of the game. He looks to be a good buy imo


Is Hanley worth holding?

If not, should I swap him for swallow rather than trading carthy to fasolo?


It's a hard call and you could go either way on Hanley but I would probably move him on if I had him.

I'll be upgrading Webster to Swallow this week even though it may not be the most bye friendly maneuver. He's just playing too darn well not to have him in your team and the Suns draw is really quite favourable now. He's tonned up every round so far which is more than anyone can ask from a defender.

So Hanley to Swallow looks fine to me Adam.


I have been very tempted to trade this week with caddy,Rohan, JKH in my forward line. I just can't bring myself to trade caddy down tho, so my thoughts were to trade Ellis to crouch and then caddy to bruest. But looking at it money wise Ellis is still predicted to earn more than caddy will drop, so will probly hold my trades and hope caddy doesn't get the vest again. Next week Rohan to Lloyd, then I can focus on the bye trading


great call! can't see those trades netting you enough extra points to warrant them, at this stage be happy you have fit players!!! HOLD!!


Haha, fit players this round, I've had my struggles so far with enright,Mitchell , rockliff missing games and effecting my scores as well as Barlow,michie as injury trades . Trying to be sensible after falling for the zorko hype and trading out wright instead of caddy then.

Give It A Go

Hi community, going through trades like it's fashion, Have had to trade Ryder-Mummy traded Webster-Jaensch, Hodge (didn't know how long he was out for) to Zorko and so and so from the forces above!!, Now I still have Caddy, Mitchell,Daisy,Mummy and Shiels, going to have to keep Caddy, Daisy and Mitchell, need to trade Mummy for Jacobs and Sheils for Crouch at least this will generate some cash for Caddy and Mitchell that are not generating cash at the moment, well you never know this could be the round for Daisy, Caddy and Mitchell to shine, thank you, the gods of supercoach,. just when I need you i'll say a little prayer, come on ladsssssss you can do it, it's TIME TO SHINE!!!!!!!!!!!!


hey guys, whats your thoughts on robbie gray? thinking of trading caddy out for someone but not too sure about fasolo


Big fan, will go big in the next few weeks to cover for monfries


good little pick up, but don't expect output like last week when port thrashed brisbane, I'm a port man and I think he's looking at 80-90 for the rest of the season, however, like Dons said, until monfries comes back he's likely to get a few more touches and maybe slot an extra one or two


I have Hanley, Mummy, Caddy, Webster, Rohan, Buddy. I'm finally going with Aish to Crouch before Bris play tomoz, then if Currie named I'll hold onto Mummy, and go Caddy to Bruest. Then next week Mummy to Jacobs and Rohan to Lloyd. Trade ass off!


G'day supercoachers, very tough week for all hope everyone's persevering
got a few problems of myself, would love everyone's opinion on these

Alrighty community, which trade (or 2) are of MOST PRIORITY this week

1. luenburger
2. hanley
3. Rohan (to lloyd)
4. T Mitchell (Pav?)
5. J Kennedy Harris (to bloody anyone)
6. upgrade cash cow

* spud Rohan & JKH not starting, but do have lewis taylor on field up fwd


I see 1 and 2 as your priorities. You can then deal with that annoying forward line next week.


1 & 2


I'd want to get rid of Mitchell… has cost me far too much coin, not performing and up against freo this week… so do we think he is anywhere near maintaining this at all?
I'd say 1 & 3 if you can bear to hang onto Hanley
if not, 1&2 like the others say.


so if no key position forwards in our team, who would be the ideal possible forward line???


Danger, Dusty, Breust, Parker, Gray, ??

Beady Eye

Wingard, Chapman, Rioli, Zorko, Pinch Me Harvey.


Mick makes a compelling argument for Pav in his article yesterday. Based on that I would be including Pav in my forwards.

My ideal forwards at the moment would be Danger, Dusty, Parker, Pav, Chappy (if he can stay on the park) and Zorko (hesitantly).

skate or die

jock you're a legend


Just putting my 2 cents in. People talking about downgrading Caddy to Fasalo/Lloyd should reconsider. He has a high BE so he must go, but he was orgininally intended as a quick upgrade to a premo, so if you have the coin, or make it by getting Crouch in, upgrade Caddy to Breust Zorko Rioli etc. Then watch Lloyd for a week and get rid of Rohan for him next week. One less trade goin straight to premo rather than side stepping to Fasalo then another trade to a premo later down the track.


That is fine if you have money in the bank.


Mitchell to Pav, Breust, Gunston or Westhoff? Looking for a bit of a POD so wanting to avoid Roughy.


HI Mango
Mitchell to anyone sounds good at the mo. I'd go breust or gunston simply because they are smaller players, likely to garner more touches midfield. and flip a coin between the two.
Pav will rise in price I believe, with a low break even, but you'd be looking for a keeper here.


On the AFL site it says god dares 1-2 weeks, should I hold, or will he still underperformance with a nagging groin injury?


Bomber doesnt mind resting his senior players early on.


So watons Js is low?


Watson does not have an injury.


God dares to put an ugly head like that on a good footballer.

Rescued Pieman

Nick Robertson named in the ball community. Jock talked him up all preseason. I like his job security short term & could be invaluable in round 8. If you can avoid pulling the trigger on crouch this could be your man .


Lucky I had him sitting on my bench with Matt Crouch and will Crouch play?

Rescued Pieman

Community keep your eyes on Darcy Gardiner playing his first game for the Lions tonight. Could be a very handy round 7 trade in when Langdon McDonald & Thumper have the bye. Cash & points in round 8!


Great podcast Jock! Cheers mate. Crouch is coming in now. Daisy gone. Not sure whether I'll get Fasolo now..Lloyd can wait another week. Was going to chop Tichell but now having second thoughts..

Rescued Pieman

Gday Azmataz ive got Buddy & Tichell, both stinkng it up. Hang on till the byes I'd suggest & then make the call.


What are people's thoughts on when to get Swan back into team – and who would you trade out to get him in?
If I had enough cash it would be Polec to Swan – but when?
Appreciate your thoughts – I am becoming much better at this game because of this site and the whole community – thanks all!!!!!!


I don't have SC gold but I imagine Swanny is still on the way down, and Polec still has a bit of money left in him, I'd start to target your fallen premos during or after the bye rounds.




Looks a bit sideways there mate. I am hoping Fasolo will be playing a Shaw like role fom here on out – so I have brought him in for Impey. But yeah Caddy does need to go.

Not sure about Titch to Pav. Is there another way of getting Pav in?





Beady Eye





What is a more important trade to make this week
Mumford to Jacobs
Rohan to Fasolo



mumford out – jacobs in
hunter out – fasolo in


Should I trade D. Thomas for Matty Crouch??? And how about Caddy for Fasolo or hold??

Beady Eye

Full steam ahead on both of those.


Thanks mate!! Or would I be better off waiting untill loydd next week for caddy?



Beady Eye

I've opted for Lloyd over Fasolo myself.

Cheaper (therefore more profit to be made) and one of the shining lights for a rubbish Tigers team, so has likely locked himself into that spot for a few weeks.

Fasolo's still a good option but he's learning a new role, so maybe a down game brings his JS into question. If he keeps racking it up he may attract Heath Shaw's old forward tag. Brown, Dwyer, Seedsman and Sinclair all coming back in the next couple of weeks also.


Thanks mate!! Greatly appreciated. You guys are awesome!!

Flacid Jaff

I'm making these exact trades as well mate!
GO for it!


Thanks mate!!!


Community, I was a smart one who didn't start with Danger in my forward line because of his slow starts to the season but i do have buddy. Is it a sidways trade if i give buddy the flick next week for danger as buddy is a massive turd in my forward line. thanks.

Flacid Jaff

Wait till round 9 or 10 if you can mate, Danger will be at his price trough and you'll avoid a zero through the byes!

Adel bye rd 8, Syd bye rd 10


Didn't even think of that, cheers mate!


decca keep your head up, all you need to do is try to beat Gab in the GF!!


what about marc murphy


what about marc murphy?




Caddy predicted to go down to 270-280k. Fasolo Predicted to rise to 270k. Just remember if you hold Caddy and trade next week to a Lloyd, you will still pocket 70k more than going to Fasolo this week.


Hey Fellas
Thoughts on Will Minson as a Replacement for Mummy
He is Bye Frendly and has an awesome Ruck Draw coming up of Carlton, Adelaide, Esendon and Melbourne
Should Dominate the Hitouts in these Games


Sounds good, and he is a bit of a bargain at the moment. I reckon do it.


Is it worth trading Pyke to Jacobs?


Do not Sideways


Daisy Out, Hanley to midfield bench, Jaensch In


That's exactly what I did with Shiels, bit unsure of myself though. You should make some money off Jaensch but not too sure if he can maintain the form he's in. Also the early bye is a concern, however the crows do have a soft run up to the draw and they're coming off the back of their big win over the saints.
I'd say go with your gut mate, depends how many trades you are willing to burn because you might require a corrective sideways doozy down the road with Jaensch.


Good idea stick with it I have got Rohan,Shiels and Hanley and what I did is get swallow in for Shiels swapped Swallow into defence and Hanley onto midfield bench and luckliy I had Matt Crouch onto field for Hanley… this allowed me to get Sam Llyod this week for Rohan.


Joel Selwood or Tom Rockliff looking to bring them in for Hanley next week



Beady Eye

Joelwood. Moved into the Ablett/Pendlebury class.


Opinions on Jaensch?


I'm not jumping on the Jaensch train. Not proven and could end up like the Charlie Dixon last year (smashing out 100s then as soon as I trade him in – gone injured..)

But yeah – everyone seems to be jumping on, I'm keeping well clear..


G'day community. 2 trades this week. First is Mummy to Jacobs. Second trade is where I need some advice…

I'm going to trade out Caddy. I'll have enough money to take Pav/Gunston or similar, or could take Fasolo for the cash. The Mummy trade means I'll miss out on a cash grab such as Thomas->Crouch this week. Next week I plan on doing Impey->Lloyd (which won't make much cash) and Thomas (or a peaked rookie) ->Robertson/Gray. After that I'm worried about a lack of downgrade options leading into the byes, so the extra money from Fasolo could be very useful.

Is it more important to get another keeper in early and need one less trade later, or make some more cash while I've got the chance?

Thanks for any help


I reckon you might as well hold Caddy for one more week, offload Thomas for Crouch and make some profit, then upgrade Caddy next week and see if the likes of Lloyd and Gray are consistent enough to earn a spot in your side.


All the SC gold BEs changed over night? This changes my trading strategy if the new ones are correct


I noticed that… Dom Tysons BE went from 49 to 38??


And now its 52 and all the mid rookies went from – BE’s to + BE’s…

Beady Eye

Now showing as 52. All over the shop.


Yep, polec , Ellis, Langford, McDonald all had – BEs now they are +


Hey Guys need some much needed advice.

Currently ranked 170, feel like I'm doing pretty well and want to continue doing so. My current team is:

Swallow, Jaensch, McVeigh, Suckling, Mitchell, McDonald [Laidler, Georgiou]

Ablett, Pendlebury, Beams, Polec, Rockliff, Dunstan, Tyson, Dale, Thomas [Landon,Crouch]

Sandilands, Jacobs [Currie, King]

D, Martin, J, Merrett, Dangerfield, Wright, Higgins, Fasolo [L,Taylor, JKH]

I Just traded out Hanley to Jaensch which banked me quite a bit, and I'm now thinking of downgrading Dale Thomas to S, Gray from Port. Thomas breakeven is at 77 and don't think he will reach that, so I was thinking of trading him out and banking some $ and then starting Matt Crouch.

If that's the case my $ in the bank will be at $388,800 which I think puts me in a good spot in buying fallen premiums in the next few weeks.

Thoughts guys?

Rescued Pieman

Also like the look of gray from port, but I’d have a look at him for another week & also Nick Robertson. I’d give daisy another week. Cheers


Id be thinking a daisy upgrade if you have the $.
Maybe to Wines


Like your gunna listen to our advice.
I reckon you're just bragging at your ranking of 170 although, I'm damned if I can workout how that squad could be ranked 170 I just don't see the points. Unless you've traded Mummy and a couple of ultra high scorers already.


Thoughts on Cam Guthrie as a POD?


What do you reckon he is capable of averaging from here on in?


Not a lot. If he keeps getting the tagging role.

Marcus J

ive had him from the start, was close to moving him on last week then he spat out a 125 so ill hold the faith, when he tagging he'll prob only average 80 but if he gets a free run at it then he can spit tons

Bob McBob

With Taylor Hunt back, Guthrie will spend more time in defence


Tough call for me this week…

Keen on getting rid of Cameron Clay (injured/not scoring well anyway), Webster (not scoring), Caddy (vest prone?)

Unsure about Hanley (have cover). Would LIKE to hold him.

Keen on obtaining (In order of preference and up for debate): Swallow, Jaensch, Fasolo and Lloyd.. about 70k in the bank.

Choose one of the following double trades.

A: IN Swallow OUT Webster // IN Lloyd OUT Caddy

B: IN Jaensch OUT Webster // IN Fasolo OUT Caddy

C: In Jaensch OUT Clay // IN Lloyd OUT Caddy (Webster on bench hoping he goes up in value eventually)

D: In Swallow OUT Hanley // IN Fasolo OUT Caddy

E: Other suggestion.

Those are probably in order for me… but I’ve reverse traded about 37 times so far…




hey guys!!! I've got mike pike in ruck, if i make any trade this week…im thinking pyke to sauce jacobs – bit of a sideways but what do you reckon??


Super sideways man. My thoughts anyway.

The Garbo

a unique option could have been, pyke to west – pocket 100k and surely west will eventually avg 80ish with no looey for quite awhile.
On a side note Derickx seems to be eating into pykes output – could be worrying