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PODCAST: The Silence of the Lambs

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Supercoach 2014 preseason podcast

Another weekend of drama.

Mumford, Dahlhaus, Wingard, Hanley, Goddard, Leuenberger, Caddy, Rohan, Webster, our forward rookies and other spuds made round 4 one to forget for many.

And we look towards Round 5 with one eye on these issues – but another one on the fattening spring lambs that we will begin to harvest for their cash within the next few weeks.

Enjoy the show community – would love to see what your trade plans are for the next few weeks in the comments below.

 


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dean

First πŸ™‚

WombatsFC

Your mum must be proud.

Jarrad

Pretty sure Noah is in first, just saying. Probably want to work on that.

WombatsFC

Crikey Jarrad I haven't even read a bible or been to church but I'm pretty sure the Christians don't think Noah came first; unless Noah was a kiwi and a sheep was the virgin mother.

Jarrad

Its not my fault the bloke in 1st place is Noah, lets face it, hes had time to perfect his art….on the ark.

amos

Amos here

Michael

4th comment yesssss

WombatsFC

Brilliant!

Billy

trading out Thomas for Crouch.

rob

Thank god. . Never been big on daisy

WombatsFC

Great idea get another onfield midfield rookie who'll deliver rollercoaster scores. Replace him with something better eg Wines Macrae

Shinboner

I think Macrae will begin the plateau at 500k, so at this point, might be a little late to jump on cash generation wise.

WombatsFC

Hi Shinboner, I agree that he might plateau (geez this place is articulate) around 500k but I think the almost guaranteed 100+pts each week is more valuable than 50k and 'a possible ton'.

Shinboner

Valid argument, mate. I've definitely enjoyed having him on my team this season – one less thing to worry about. Great player, he is. The Bulldogs really struck gold with the 2012 draft! Macrae, Stringer, Hunter and Hrovat.

Emma

I love you guys, always a great pick me up Sunday after a shocking round

I will be going Webster to Crouch via mid swing non player I was using
Second trade will be Impey to Fasolo

matt

yeah agreed with that, will be a money making investment

Vasu

I am thinking of trading Tom Mitchell and Berne Vince this week or impey. Should I and if I do who would be good trade in options?

WombatsFC

I'd dump Mitchell for Macrae, actually thats my plan atmo

may

hold i reckon, one or two mofe weeks of mitchel doing this trade him out

Jacob

Tom Mitchell to Fasolo and Vince to Watson Selwood or Pendles.depending on your bank.

Vasu

Will fasolo be consistent though?

Mitch

What a terrible week! Got burnt by nearly my whole team!

Dion

Feeling those burn marks…. Ironic that the ultimate burn man Higgins was a saviour in the ultimate burn round.

KadeK is a jet

Great Podcast once again! These are the ng trades I am going for at the moment.

Trade 1: J. Caddy (Geelong) out Sam Lloyd (Richmond) in
X. Ellis (West Coast) out Sam Gray (Port Adelaide

Trade 2: J. Caddy (Geelong) out Sam Loyd (Richmond) in
Out any Rookies for example Langdon and bring in premiums..

Trade 3: J. Caddy (Geelong) out Parker or Rioli or another Forward premium in.
X.Ellis (west Coast) out Sam Gray in.

It is simple do I build up my cash or use trades to bring in premiums. Thanks to all that help.
PS – I am DEFINITLEY GETTING JOSH CADDY OUT OF MY TEAM. i REALLY WANT SAM LLOYD IN!

Thanks for the help Community any advice accepted! Keep up the Good work Jock & Co. Loving it!!!!!

Jake

Mate Xavier Ellis still has some cash to make and gray has played just 1 game, maybe hold untill next week

Kev

Gray’s JS probably isn’t the best either. Wingard to come back in.

With the way forward rookies have been this year I’m giving Lloyd another week to see that he’s not a flash in the pan. 3 goals and 22 posses is bloody promising though!

Shinboner

Mature-aged too!

WombatsFC

Hi THUMPER fan
Trade 1 is a week too early. You trade arse off make money this week.
Trade 2 makes $ and sense but I wouldn't expect more than 70 from Lloydy; I had him at F6 this week and was amazed that they left him alone for so long. But hey 70 is better than Caddy or Titchell.
Trade 3 why not just beef up your mids with a Wines or Matt thomas these guys will give 100 every week and an extra 100 over the next 5

may

wait a week on lloyd,

KadeK is a jet

Thanks for the help. Will definitely trade out Caddy! But will wait till the end of the week to decide that. Don't think I'll make a second trade as my team is looking stronger than ever (or everyone else's is looking weaker due to mummy and co.) Just want to know what is going on with Nic Nat, will he play, why did he get subbed?????

Tom

how many trades have people used already?

Mitch

2

canman1306

4

yesIdohavebacon

6

Buffman

8

TG_Footy_Tragic

Who do we appreciate?

The father of fantasy, and everyones favourite humble genous…… JOCK REYNOLDS!!!

Over to you Jock.

TG_Footy_Tragic

*Genius

Big Cheese

NICE!

Donut King

That was nice

piewood1

if I get rid of Daisy for crouch & JKH for Fasolo that will leave me with 24 trades but most importantly 484k in the warchest to trade up to premiums during & after the bye rounds.

Mick

only way i will trade daisy is if his shoulder is stuffed

WombatsFC

All that I'm allowed. I trade arse off make points and $

BundyBear

LOL. Like ur thinking. I do the same cause i have to unfortunatly

Lord Relton Roberts

6 by the end of this week πŸ™

had luey hanley clurey rohan and ziebell who i am/was sorta forced to trade bloody rough start

medadsson

How ironic that Sandilands may well be the last ruckman standing!

Mick

hahaha i hear ya..i also have the "too risky" Hmac who is slowly building in value…ohhh i just remembered that sandi could be up for a striking charge for a high hit on travis colyer…fingers crossed..mind you i have hale in fwd line

WombatsFC

Mate that the second relevant and in context use of the word ironic in 10-minutes any yanks on here(throttle) will be having conniptions.

Birdman

Who would have thought Sandi and Sauce Jacobs would have been the most reliable tucks YTD??? 

Sleepy

I had Sandi as Captain this week thinking he would absolutely smash em, with the logic of no recognised Essendon rucks, home ground and Freo would bounce back big time after their debarcle last week. I was right on 2 counts but not the one the that actually mattered the most. Oh well it keeps it all interesting.

Big Dogs

Hanley to Swallow and Rohan to Lloyd. What you all think? Pretty standard trades but ya gotta do what ya gotta do. Any other option n opinions appreciated

may

hanley to jaensh majke more money,

Mick

Hanley tweeted he is hoping to get up for next weekend

Birdman

Thanks that news has probably just saved me a trade

WombatsFC

He meant get out of bed to watch the game on TV.

Shinboner

They've got the Thursday game, so that looks unlikely.

SCaddict

Reckon they'd be crazy to risk him on such a short turnaround even if it's just a strain.

WombatsFC

Swallow yes Lloyd no despite what the drunken Jock says Fasolo is the must trade in forward this week. If he was a first year mid rookie at that price and with that ave after 2-games we'd all be falling over ourselves to trade him in. But he's not, he's a mature aged proven high scorer. Hello Captain obvious.

Mick

100% spot on wombats! already traded rohan in for him

Cozza

Like the Hanley to Swallow trade – Swallow is top defender atm, but still fairly risky as he has not proven himself over a season yet. Hibberd and Simpson are safer trades, but I'd probably go Swallow if you don't have him already.

Hold a week on Lloyd – see what he does next week before settling on him.

canman1306

If I keep hanley and Mumford for the Next few weeks I will cop a Donut is it Worth doing that?
I reckon this wees trades are locked in unless something out of the ordinary.
Aish-> Crouch JKH->Fasolo

throttlefinger

Think so. I'm going to suffer through Mummy being out with the hopes Currie will get at least ONE FRACKIN game.

canman1306

Haven't even got Currie Stuck with Bloody Fraser THurlow

WombatsFC

HayMac had his worst ever but he was against the forest that westcoast field each week so you expect a low one. Make some money get some points, conceding a donut for one week to wait for an injured player is ok 2-weeks or more is crazy.
A donut is really a minus and if you get a donut in a position that you could have a 100pts player it takes 10-weeks of 110 scores to make up for it.

throttlefinger

Reconsidered after listening to podcast, Canman. I've known very few players to come back from knee surgery that quickly, especially carrying the load Mummy is. 3 weeks out for sure.

This will be my 3rd ruck trade. All injury motivated. So it be…so I do.

Mick

Depends what your going for…league or the whole thing…….i think curry got dumped cause of the crap weather

Birdman

I agree Nth seem to be happy with the two ruck combo
ATM but the weather in Sydney was not suited to too many talls.Currie back next week.

WombatsFC

C'mon Canman you that its suicide to hold onto them. You trade arse off win game.

Cozza

I'm going Aish > Crouch as well this week, but with Mummy out a couple of weeks at least, I would suggest getting another ruck in to cover his donut. You are missing 80-100 by not getting someone like Sauce in. I would hold on the JKH atm – he has a BE of 7 this week so may make a tiny bit of money next week, and can then bring Lloyd in for him if he proves himself again next week.

mick

jock
hanley to hibberd or jeasnsch and 100k?

WombatsFC

I agree with Tom. I traded Clurey for him just before the bounce he's the perfect D5

Geoff

Leuy -> ????

Caddy -> fasolo

Thoughts??

matt

leuy to jacobs

Geoff

Jacobs. I’ll do the math. Bloody hope I can afford him!!

Is fasolo a viable trade? Or mid price trap?

K'noath

Trap. Wait one more week for Caddy>Lloyd instead. Get Jacobs now

Sleepy

Here is one to throw in. Luey to West as West is now solo ruckman at Brisbane and has average in the 80's while sharing the load with Luey. Around the same price too.

WombatsFC

Good Call.

Fabian

Can't wait to listen to this on the drive to work tomorrow. I've had my lowest score in about 3 years scoring below 2000. I've scored higher in DT then SC πŸ™ and I've dropped over 10'00 places in rankings. Forced to trade caddy to Rioli after seein caddy as sub (was either him, parker or merret, happy with choice). Ultimate carnage with Luey and Hanley injured, Cotch/Buddy/Tmitchell 65 and under, on field rookies below 60! Arghh πŸ™ Thought I was on track this year community, now I want to walk back to the trench and cry.

At least Fyfe returns for me this week and the risky mid price picks in Higgins/Wright/Suckling are paying off.

may

im hearing you mate

Mick

I made up 10,000…so a week is a long time mate…stick with it

Jarrad

So happy i didnt jump off Goldstein after he had that iffy shoulder injury, would have went straight to Mummy otherwise which would have caused even more headaches.

matt

smart move

William

Who to bring to forward line? I'm bloody sick of Franklin and Rohan, already brought in Fasolo and who else? I've got $432,600

matt

jackson merret looks good to make quickish money, and have saints next week

WombatsFC

Hi Matt, IMO he wont ave much more than 70 for rest of year; do you really want to pay 360k+ for 70 points?

Shinboner

I'm going to have to disagree, mate. Merrett's second half fadeaway shouldn't dictate expectations of him. He was as strong as ever in the first! Bomber loves the bloke – he wouldn't stop jabbering on about him in the preseason. At that price, you're probably not going to get a better option. Having said that, I wouldn't recommend a midpricer for William. Go straight down to Sam Lloyd and use the funds elsewhere.

Simon

rohan to lloyd will be a popular trade

Mick

Its starting to be hard to resist Nick Riewoldt

Shinboner

My thoughts exactly.

WombatsFC

Yeah Boomer is getting the arse real soon for Nikkers. Just after I get rid of Titchell

Shinboner

Boomer has always been pretty average against Sydney. Wouldn't read too much into it.

WombatsFC

I can't handle the roller coaster last week would've been a stinker also if not for his last qrtr I reckon I should take the cash and get someone who's reliable week in week out

Azmataz

Yeah I'm bringing Reiwoldt in this week. Its just gotta be done

WombatsFC

May

Bellybuttonfluff

Hearin ya… Franklin giving me the sloppy runs too. But think maybe best to hold him. Will have to come good. No one kicked straight to him all game and was wet. Send Rohan rowing up shyt creek.

Danners16

Hey guys, had a terrible week like many after a good start
Def-S.Mitchell, P.Hanley, D.Swallow, M.Jaensch, T.Langdon, L.McDonald (J.Laidler, A.Georgiou)
Mid-G.Ablett, D.Beams, L.Shuey, M.Murphy, D.Tyson, L.Dunstan, J.Polec, X.Ellis (J.Kelly, H.Cunningham)
Ruck-S.Jacobs, A.Sandilands (T.Derickx, F.Thurlow)
Fwd-P.Dangerfield, N.Riewoldt, D.Martin, L.Parker, D.Zorko, J.Caddy (L.Taylor, J.Impey)
$140,500 in the bank
What do I do?
Thoughts would be great thanks

Kev

Injury concern with Hanley. Wait until later in the week to see how many he'll miss.

For mine, caddy has to go. That 20-odd with be in his system now for a few weeks and he was already struggling with a b.e/ave. I like your forward set up, you could go down to someone like fasolo or grab another 450kish player to round out your forward line, Your call

matt,

hanley to okeefe/hibberd/simpson

maybe get swan in your team in the next few weeks for dunstan/ellis

yesIdohavebacon

caddy > lloyd

langdon or georgiou > guthrie
or murphy > jelwood/pendles for vc/c loop

Tom

KEEP OR GET RID OF DAISY? FMSC

matt

hold wait for griffin, swan, okeefe are in the price bracket

pfft

What's the bloody story with reverse trades this season? I grabbed Currie for some Mummy cover, he was named on the ground all week, then half an hour before the game I see he's a late out. "No worries" I think, simply hit "reverse" and swap him back for Holmes (Stk rookie who wasn't going to play) as I'm well up and will cop the donut. But no, the reverse trade option is not available… so wtf is going on? The bloody reverse trade was introduced last season for this very situation (last minute outs), absolute joke SC.

Bellybuttonfluff

Reverse don't work after 1st game. Found that out myself after trade in laidler then not play.

sputnik

you can only reverse trade up until the first bounce of the round- not each game. after that there is no reverse trade. once the round has officially started there is no reversing fullstop.

David

I did the same hickey to mummy then found out couldn't reverse even thou St Kilda haven't played….think that's so wrong!!!!!

Jason

I did the same thing …. i traded out McEvoy to Mumford before the Carlton v Melbourne game and an hour later find out that Mumford was out …..knew i couldnt reverse trade but i think it should be allowed especially if the player you bring in is a late withdrawal compared to not being picked at all ……

WombatsFC

Well done gentlemen that was definitely worth the wait.
The Hansel and Gretel analogy should be saved for future generations as an example of how reading a seemingly non-football story can transform your team into supercoach champions.

Josh

thoughts on having lewis taylor as an F6? don't see any good forward options for caddy so im thinking of swapping caddy to mid with lewis taylor and caddy down to matt crouch?

haydyn

yeh npow thats smart thinking

Tracy

Thinking of trading out Hanley and Daisy to get Ablett and then Laidler.. thoughts?

jack

do whatever to get ablettt in

Azmataz

Do it

pfft

What's this podcast talk on bringing in Crouch when Sam Gray just had a 104 in his first game?

Cozza

S Gray is not on the bubble yet – still has a week to go for his price rise. If he performs well, can bring Gray in next week. Crouch is on the bubble, so will never get him this cheap again.

Michael

Wait another game for Gray as he won’t go up in price until he’s played 3 games. Also you get another game to see if he’s the real deal. He may have a stinker and not get picked again afterwards, thereby wasting a trade. Also what happens if he’s injured 2nd game? Again a wasted trade. Should always wait until after 2nd game for rookies – golden rule.

Mick

I agree…it will be either lloyd or gray next week…apparently lloyd racked up 30 for port magpies last weekend so does have potential

WombatsFC

Fair question pfft, Crouch aint gonna bring much more than 70pts to the table so he's bench material at best and then you have to hope you don't need him.
The only Crows we should be lookin at this week are Sauce and Jeansch

JB

Hanley to who?

S Mitchell, Hodge, K Simpson thoughts …

jack

definitly mitchell mate, like the look of scotty thompson from north as a pod

Cozza

Mitchell, then Simpson, then Hodge

Jason

If you want to generate some cash keep in mind Frawley ….

nick

Hey Jock
On my question i asked in the podcast.
What if i could trade JKH to Crouch?

throttlefinger

Solid as always gents. Wish Jock was in a better state, but I had a tough weekend as well so understand.

Mummy will be gone more than 2 weeks. Knee surgery recovery for giants (pun intended) take a little longer. Don't recoup as fast, especially on load bearing parts.

Between Caddy and Webster as 2nd out. Strong lean towards Caddy as he will continue to bleed money. Going to spend savings and go up instead of down. Either Parker, Westoff or Wingard. Thoughts?

WombatsFC

Hi Throttle, I feel for ya mate you copped a caning from that slut lady luck. Dump Caddy should be philosophy followed by all who have him.
As far as luck is concerned sometimes you have to say "c'mon bitch give it your best shot" and then pull something from behind the sofa. Perhaps it will be your preseason research with big asterisk's next to a bloke who hasn't been mentioned since the round 1 teams were announced and who poses a significant risk, but hey Boomer, Titchell and Caddy have all stunk it up at least twice already this season so this forgotten name on the crumpled paper can't do any worse. Ladyluck will see your actions and say "Hmm.. you man you have balls" and she'll smile at you and show a little more thigh.

throttlefinger

Yeah, I'll need to see a lot of flank, my good friend. Thanks for the words. Lethal in their wisdom as always.

You know, there's a tendency in this caper to focus on the stains than the successes. Sure Webster was horrible and Caddy disappointed again. But Houli stepped up big and Higgins went ton. So some risks paid off some did not. And injuries, well, those are just part of the game and you have to live with it.

Sometimes you have to take a step back and look at the whole picture to really gain true perspective. And you have given me that, my man. Thanks.

So goodbye Caddy and Mummy. And hello Round 5. Beware because you have a freight train that has no intention of slowing down coming your way.

WombatsFC

Great philosophy throttle, everyone suffered so lets stop feeling sorry for ourselves. Our prospective cash cows may have droppped a 'steamin james hird' on our fwd line but there is a flower growing through it.

throttlefinger

Thanks buddy. Hate having to drop a third ruck but injuries are killing me. Should've stuck fat with Wright instead of Caddy. Live and learn.

WombatsFC

Yeah I went Wright for Zorko 2 weeks ago when I really wanted to go Caddy for Zorko but I was sucked in by Jock and the 'general consensus'.

I'm seriously thinking about accepting fault and turning Titch back into wright because as you know I TRADED CADDY FOR LLOYD, (and advised all on this forum that they do the same) BEFORE the first bounce so, I don't need to trade him in.

throttlefinger

We should've went against the grain, Womby. Threw on some Powerage, cranked Riff Raff and smiled awhiled to next round.

In fact, next time in a rut, I suggest we both have Bon and the boys on when we talk trades.

WombatsFC

Powerage is my favourite album. Up to my neck was my final pre-game song for more than 10-years ("up to my neck in wishing that this dick wasn't mine" is effing brilliant) and Downpayment Blues is Bon at his poetic best "..feelin' like a papercup floating down a storm drain" is a great analagy for how most coaches feel after this weekend.

throttlefinger

Bon is by far my favorite lead singer and probably one of my favorite songwriters. Oozes rock top to bottom.

WombatsFC

IMO the greatest rock singer/songwriter of all time, and I proudly wear the scars of defending that opinion through the late 80's and early 90's; along with the scars I earned when AC/DC fans trashed Eaglehawk Town Hall in the late 70's after they'd had RocknRoll banned from the Bendigo Town Hall on their previous tour. They were also kicked out of Mildura and 'banned from the city limits' on the tour that included the Eaglehawk concert.
I copped another scar at the first concert in Melbourne after Bon died; the last concert with Bon at Melbourne Myer Music had rock music banned from the venue and the Back in Black tour was the first time it was allowed back, big issue with fans breaking down fences to get in rolling brawls etc rock banned from venue again. LOL.

WombatsFC

I reckon that AC/DC also introduced what is now known as Punk Rock with Powerage tracks 'Kicked in the teeth' and 'Up to My Neck'
AND the very first Rapp song was not written by Bob Dylan it was penned years earlier by Bon Scott 'R.I.P' off Dirty Deeds

WombatsFC

The 'If You Want Blood' version of Riff Raff is my preferred version but I'm a sucker for the youngs goin nuts.

Dave2008

Have to agree that early ACDC was classic rock Bullet to Bite On, Gone Shootin etc cant get enough of those kind of tracks. There was no one like Bon and there never will be. Didnt have the trappings of fame and just a legend. I mean walking to the gig through the crowd wearing just a pair of jeans and then to be photographed doing so. The VH1 Behind the Music special is essential viewing. Totally distracted me from my trade thoughts but great work!

WombatsFC

I know your mob love the Cryptic crosswords so, When the first young brother and a mate decided to have a second crack they called themselves after this Essendon forward.

throttlefinger

Having an "Ambrose"?

WombatsFC

Harry Vanda George Young 'Flash in the Pan' late 70's. I reckon Merret is a

WombatsFC

A 'Flash in the Pan' is a gold rush term referring to the dashed high hopes gold-panners had when they saw a flash in the pan, only to later learn it was the sun reflecting off quartz crystal or iron pyrites

throttlefinger

Power producers, ha! Love the AC/DC ref.

WombatsFC

Yeah I should have said "The oldest young brother"

WombatsFC

Try another.
The new name for the Carlton Football Club is shared by the oldest young brothers first band.

throttlefinger

Haha.

Don't think I've heard any of their stuff. Any good? Or just interesting to hear what point A sounded like?

Kind of like Billy Joel's metal band Attila before he struck out solo: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7s8PHnCTGI

WombatsFC

I might have history wrong but I meant george young and harry vanda's 'The Easybeats' 1960's Friday on my mind.

throttlefinger

Have to hunt that out. Love obscure 60s/70s rock. Use to do a radio show that was mostly that type of music.

WombatsFC

Friday on my mind was released in the late 1960's during Beatlemania and the legend is that Paul McCartney heard the track on the radio whilst in a limousine on the way home from Heathrow airport. Apparently he told the driver to find a telephone box he then called the radio station and demanded that they play the track again immediately or risk never playing a Beatles song again.

WombatsFC

Easy to see hear 'young type' riff. The singer Stevie Wright OD'd a few years back but had a massive 1970's hit with "Evie parts 1,2,3" George and Harry were instrumental in that also.

throttlefinger

REALLY?

Wow. Will have to seek out.

sputnik

i heard it wasnt surgery as such. more just an open and drain. i dont think it was like anything was damaged or repaired. just a little bit of exploratory surgey maybe.

throttlefinger

Yeah, it seems light yet 3 weeks total to recoup and his shoulder has been nagging him. Might just be best to cut bait, Sputnik. I'd rather deal with now then have a donut for 3 weeks.

SCaddict

Yeah has to go for mine unless he makes a miracle recovery this week. Sort of thing that can go from 1-2 to 2-3 to 3-4 weeks before you know it.

Geez mate not having a great run with Ryder, Lids and now Mummy. Of course Currie had to be a late out to top things off for you.

Please don't trade in Sauce Jacobs, who I have, or he may be next!

I'm still battling away 35,000 odd but I'm 2-0 in the prestigious Throttledome woohoo! πŸ™‚

throttlefinger

Yeah, you and Wombats are slaying in the Tdome. 15th in my own league?!?! Yes, this won't stand. Predict the house I will win this week!

Settle your nerves, SCaddict, I'm not going to trade in Sauce. Going another way so I can upgrade Caddy. Most likely to Pav. Next 3 of 5 games in Perth.

Currie was the final pop in the plums for sure. Frustrating last couple rounds but mostly things not in my control. Can't get too wracked. Only in-season blemish is trading out Wright instead of Caddy. Went against gut. Lesson learned. Soldier on.

chandanrajdb

Guys,

Just a thought….is anyone giving any thought on ROUND 8 BYES…….the players we are looking to bring in (M Crouch, A Fasolo, S Lloyd) all have ROUND 8 BYES……Not sure whether we do consider this or not……thoughts community…..

TF….I am in your league as well mate…..Team name "TITANS"…sitting on top of the league ladder………going pretty well at the moment…..scored 2257 and pushed the overall rank to 538…..woo hoo…..still a long way to go though……

Didn't do any trades last week as well…….going all right at the moment…..26 trades left….not sure on the bringing in RD8 bye players though…….which will have a significant impact with respect to overall rankings…..

My thoughts on that is….i will only be trading out J Caddy to A Fasolo (both have RD 8 bye) wouldn't change in terms no. of players out during RD 8 bye with this trade…..this is the one trade which is absolutely confirmed this week…..enough of CADDY….lesson learnt is NEVER PICK the fringe players from CATS team…..ONLY PICK THE GUNS of the cats team like J Selwwod, Stevie J, Enright, Mackie etc……they have got too much of depth….you cant predict what they do week in week out…..every week it will be bit different with the team structure…..based on so many reason…….AND YES I AM A CATS FAN…..

And regarding bringing in M Crouch…..seriously….the questions raises regarding the RD 8 bye….what do we do…..and yes next week to bring in S Lloys (RD 8 Bye player as well)…..

IMO…..some has to raise this issue…..or is it an issue?…..

COMMUNITY……need all the opinions / comments / thoughts……

Cheers,
RAJ…..

Josh

Structure will be key for your side as you are so highly ranked. Don't bring in round 8 bye rookies. Go with your gut.

throttlefinger

If you're going for the 50K, which you are Raj, then Rd 8 byes should be a top of mind now. I am not. Ranked 17K. Going for league wins. So not as big of concern. OK with going in a little in R8. Hoping other competitors that week do as well.

Caddy. Ugh. Made a bad decision keeping him in instead of Wright. Needs to go this week. Either going up or down. Really depends if I'm going to stick with Mummy or not. 50/50 on that at this point.

Raj, you're kicking ass in leagues and rank. Keep rawkin it, my man!

chandanrajdb

Hey TF,

Thanks for your comments mate…..I don't think that you are out of the race mate….not yet IMO…..still lot of time left in this season……

Cheers…
Raj….

throttlefinger

Appreciate the supportive words but don't think there's ever been anyone who was ranked 17,000 who rallied to win SC. Have not given up on putting the best team out there but safe to say mathematically out of contention.

Is Caddy your only concern? If so, kudos to you, sir.

chandanrajdb

Have you seen my team???

You can see it…Team Name TITANS….and I am in your league "Throttledome"

My problem at the moment is Caddy and couple of FWD rookies. I am not too worried with the rookies (Impey & JKH) because there is still time to bring in Lloyd next week to one of those rookies.

DEF is bit week but will wait till my rookies fatten up instead of just trading for the sake of it….no point in doing the trades when the bye rounds are just around the corner unless you got some serious injury issues in your team….my approach is simple…..set a value to every trade you make…..just don't make the trade to chase the points….one down and one up….seems to work everytime….2nd year (proper) in supercoach and learnt a lot last year mate…..had no trades after RD 19 last year…but still finished within top 600 overall last year….all credit goes to JR community…..great community….

Cheers,
Raj….

throttlefinger

Yeah, I think you're being a bit hard on your team. It is pretty damn strong, esp the backline. Mine is deteriorating, due to miscall on Webster and Roos switching Dunn to forward line (did well first two round in back).

And your forward line is the same. Trouble areas are mostly your benches, which in reality is not that significant of a problem.

But appreciate the encouraging words. And agree would not be doing good at all if not for the community. Hands down best fantasy footy site out there.

Michael

Downgrading Murph to Crouch – thoughts?

throttlefinger

I'd wait. Especially since Judd is coming back. Too good of a player. If not better 90+ in next two against WCE and Dogs, might unload…because will get the human glove when they play Pies after.

Michael

when's Judd back?

throttlefinger

Talk is they may bring him back this week.

Autofelatio

Don't move Murphy to Crouch, surely there are some better candidates in your. The Smurph has only had a bad 2 weeks I believe but is proven and will strike back. Keep the faith you picked him for a reason!

WombatsFC

This mans name might suggest that he never spends anytime watching footy but his words are genuine wisdom.

WombatsFC

My true thoughts shouldn't be published so, no.

Mick

never trade a prem unless its a LTI

Rocksta

Smurfett IS NOT a premium.

SCaddict

Reckon you have to hold on to Murphmellow. You have to take the bad with the good. Think people expected too much from him.

He's no longer an elite scorer in my view, with Juddy no longer the kingpin to take opposition attention away from him, but should still get you an average around 95 which aint dreadful for $500K.

sputnik

yeh, murphy aint that soft. him and cotchin got mugged by a marshmellow last night but they walked away from it, a little battered and bruised, but they survived.

Autofelatio

Hmm i must say I haven't been too annoyed by JKH, he's only had one full AFL game apart from the one NAB challenge game. The more full games he gets the better he should score, and I feel he'll eventually provide you with not a lot but an ok amount of cash. Loved that analogy with Hansel Jock you beautiful beast of a man.

Jack

Hey community,
It's been great to be apart of this place but I just can't deal with it anymore. After 10 scores below 60, scoring my lowest score for 4 seasons of 1860 I have decided to hang up my boots for now and wait until next year if I have recovered in time. I have had enough seeing other teams pulling scores out of nowhere amd finally buddy can get f*****.

Mick

haahahaha thats the attitude!

WombatsFC

See ya Jack, don't let the door hit your arse on the way out.

SCaddict

C'mon mate Higgo got 1872 and is not packing in the towel just yet. There's a long way to go and still league glory at stake. It was the round from hell for most of us.

It's how we deal with adversity that defines us.

sputnik

the question is- how many sideways trades have you done? how close to your original team is your team at the moment? most people feel that way coz they keep chasing last weeks score but never can. maybe instead of giving up just dont trade for a few weeks then come back. maybe just focus on bringing in crouch and fasaol this week, lloyd and gray next week and before you know it you have 500K to play with.

Also heres one MAJOR tip!!! Dont compare yourself to the top 1000 teams. Many of them overtrade early and end up plummeting down the ranks later on after wasteful trades, and alot lose their finals aswell. And plus the reality is only one person can win it- and thats all based on luck of your starting team.

People who started with all of wright, jaensch, merret, macrae, higgins in their team were pretty lucky coz none are that great- just have potential. And we all have a couple of them- but some seem to have started with most of them. I guess a little skill involved but more luck coz NAB means nothing usually.

Plus all the risky players you dont really want in your team. Mummy, Hodge, Franklin, Chappy, Rioli, Lecras, Higgins, Sandi, SJ- theyre all gonna miss weeks. Just luck so far that Sandi hasnt gone down and higgins either. And rioli. His hammy will pop, Franklin will get suspended and so will SJ, hodge always misses weeks and so does mummy.

The supercoach devil is reigning this week but dont let him get you down!!!

The Ranger

Nicely put Sputnik, it's early days….

sputnik

Just my opinion so but dont give up mate.

Azmataz

Take a teaspoon of cement and harden up Jack. It can only get better mate! Chin up

Matt

Would love to get in Sam Lloyd, Sam Gray, Matt Crouch, Fasolo & maybe Pat Cripps in the coming weeks.

So im thinking this week go Daisy Thomas >> Crouch & JKH/Impey (depending on breakevens) >> Fasolo,
then next week take my pick of two out of Gray, Lloyd & Cripps after seeing them for another week.

Thoughts community?

MightyDonsFC

Gray doesn't have good JS

WombatsFC

If you trade Gaz you can have em all and 100k to spend on TV snacks.

MightyDonsFC

Patrick Cripps JS? Thinking of bringing him in for michie

Scythe

Dale "I play like a daisy" Thomas
Josh "Let me carry your bag sir, as I am good for nothing else" Caddy
Tom "I should have picked Luke Parker" Mitchell

Who are the two biggest priorities to give the flick? One will become Crouch, one will become a premium. Have Lewis Taylor in the mids, so he can be swung forward.

SCaddict

I'd say Caddy first and then Daisy right behind him. Relieved I've already dumped both myself and Round 4 certainly didn't throw up anything to make me regret it. 100% pure burn men through and through. Perfect trade bait for Crouch and Fasolo/LLoyd.

Would give Titch at least one more week to turn things around.

sputnik

Id keep Daisy coz he looks the goods. Caddy was sub today and will be lucky to get 3 tons out of him, and Titchell was subbed out last week, played pretty average all year and wouldnt be surprised if he was rested or vested next week.

Josh

Hahaha the Tom Mitchell one is the best!

Adam

Goddard, dunstan, Kelly, dunstan or polec to give the flick to crouch

So I can afford carthy to fa solo?

SCaddict

May as well be BJ with the busted adductors. If he plays next week (which looks iffy) he will likely be restricted to some degree and his output probably curtailed, plus you'll be running the risk of him being subbed again and losing a bundle more cash.

Those rookies will continue to appreciate so I'd cull the lame bull rather than the fattening calves unless the medical reports say he's absolutely 100% recovered and fully trains during the week, and only then might I think about keeping him. Groins are tricky injuries.

Azmataz

Goddard. Hes gone for ages

Dogs

Wish I had 5 trades this week, I'd reset my whole forward line and get rid of Rohan, caddy, titch, danger, JKH.

Got rid wright 2 weeks ago and kicking myself it should have been caddy, and my coin toss at the start of the season of titch over Parker FMSC

Azmataz

Yeah Im getting rid of Titch this week. Upgrading to Nick Reiwoldt. Sick of sub 100 scores.

Sulzeer

Big Drew Petrie. signs of life in the big fella this week, breakeven of 129 this week, not saying he will get there but could go bloody close, having a bit of spare coin around, is it too early to go caddy to Big Drew or should I wait a week? 414k is super cheap, would be upgrading to a premium at a midpricer price…

Josh

what about cloke, his output must pick up at some stage

Sulzeer

not a hope in hell id have him just dont rate him

dunny

JAENSCH???????

Sulzeer

Quality.

Bray

Do I trade Hanely to Jaensch.? Or should i hold on Hanely and play Langdon on the Ground.?

WombatsFC

I think it depends on what you do with the $ you make from the Hanley to Jeansch deal. IMO Jaensch is the equivalent to Walker when he finally found a high possession role; everybody doubted that it would continue as he pumped out ton after ton so, I reckon pts for pts it's a good trade. But unless you use the extra $ to cover a hole elsewhere it's not a good trade and you should get suckling instead.

Bray

Thanks mate, already have suckling. Any other thoughts.?
Cheers

Will Eefting

Im a bit worried community, going from Mumford to big sauce Jacobs could be just jumping from problem to problem. Lets remember Jacobs started well last year with three 100's in the first four matches – and went on to average a dismal 85 for the whole year. Also, Minson and Goldstein have flown under the radar this year. They were the two best ruckman last year average approximately 113.5 points and it would be a easy swap to either of them.

Mumford undertook a minor (very minor) surgery at approximately 4:57pm on Saturday afternoon. Leon Cameron, coach of Greater Western Sydney, clearly stated that he will miss maybe one or two weeks. NOT FOUR. I implore to the community to hold Mumford if you have Currie, Derickx or Nakervis (Who I suspect will get a game this weekend due to Derickx shittiness).

But, what on earth are we to do with Jimmy Webster?

WombatsFC

Cash converters will give you $20 for Jimmy.

SCaddict

As a Swans supporter I'm not entirely surprised by Mummy going down again. Has never played more than 19 games in a season.

But was strange to hear in the press conference immediately after Rd 3, where he dominated, say that he was feeling healthy and his knees had never felt better. Then just 7 days later his knees have blown up and having minor surgery.

Rocksta

Hey SC, what are your thoughts on Titch down to Fas?
Titch is not a premium so I figure I may as well take the $230K on offer.

Thoughts?

SCaddict

Well I'm keeping the faith for now Rocksta. Partly because I have other fish to fry, namely upgrading Webster to someone who actually knows how to find the footy….like lets see….Swallow! as well as getting young Crouchy into my side.

Don't blame those who punt him though. Has had a pretty disappointing couple of weeks and Fasolo's BE does beckon. If you don't have other trade priorities then it has to be looked at. Certainly if he gets dropped or starts inheriting the green vest then it will be a tough ask to carry him.

throttlefinger

I remember the press bit as well. And the game he just played before that he was playing like a man possessed.

While I know the surgery is minor, being out 3 weeks total with a R3 who is not getting any PT is not good. Can't do 3 rounds of donuts.

Scott

I wouldn’t be too hasty on Merrett for what is one bad half, out of 8 halves he’s played this year.
Essendon were well beaten mid/fwd, for first time this season.

My money is on this to be the exception rather than the rule.
There’s a lot of heat rising atm, best not to be making rage trades/decisions on players on a Sunday night.

The Ranger

Well that was an arse of a week…
All was ticking along nicely but this week I'm gonna have to trade to stay in the game.
Whats the thoughts on HMac? Will he last?
And I know Llyod looked ok but how's his job security?
This week could be crucial to a lot of peoples seasons methinks.

Rocksta

What to do with Nic Nat?
He simply cannot be fit with these sorts of scores.
He's bleeding money profusely and will soon reach the point of no return, if he hasn't already.
Thoughts?

SCaddict

Not a great spot to be with NicNat that's for sure. As painful as it will be think you have to cut your losses there and make a move now whilst you still can.

Sauce looks the best alternative right now if you can extend yourself maybe through that Titch trade you are considering or perhaps by bringing in Crouch if you don't already have him.

Azmataz

Get rid of him. Trade to Sauce, which is what I did instead of jumping on the Mummy train…who has missed a game already. He gets solid 110s each week and is more consistent that NicNat. Too much competition in the WC ruck division now.

Kane

Im going daisy to matt Thomas this week. I don’t care that he has made most of his cash he scores 100 every week i was going to do it when matt was on the bubble every one is like stick with daisy… no its time to get off. At a 6k difference matt Thomas is the superior Thomas and will still make more cash and net you more points.

I lucked out last week with longer getting a game when mumford withdrew last minute so hopefully he will play till the big man is back.

SCaddict

Yes good riddance to Daisy. No where close to producing anything even semi respectable against the worst team over the past decade.

Eventually he will "get there" assuming the body holds together but is a Supercoach pariah as far as our interests go.

I was making the case here to get rid of him of last week but many folk were still clinging to the hope of a Daisy tonne against the Dees, well what excuses are we left with now hey! I brought in Kelly last week who made $50K (and likely $50K again this week according to the projection) and outscored Daisy whilst he did it.

I'd personally downgrade him to Crouch if you don't have him already but if you truly believe the other Thomas will maintain a tonne average then go with it, for whatever it takes to leave Daisy in your dust I say!

Jarrad

Will most likely go Tyson>Crouch this week. BE of 38 and a reduced output over the last couple of weeks has me worried.

Most likely Rohan>Lloyd next week(yes i have Rohan, yes i know im a muppet). Heres hoping Rohan can make his BE of 54 thi…..HAHAHAHAHAHAH i couldnt even finish that sentence, hes not getting anywhere near 54.

Already jumped on the Fasolo train last week, was no option with all the fwd rooks very shaky.

Dogs

Jock must have had way too many beers, recommending to trade out polec, who for mine is averaging more than any of my other rookies and still has a negative BE, but sit on JKH and not corrective trade him out for someone who can make money

SCaddict

I agree with Jock that Crouch should be the priority trade in target this week. Daisy would be the perfect candidate for the job but if you don't have him or for some god forsaken reason want to hang on to him the vexing question then becomes which or your prized rookie cash cows make way for young Matty.

I'll probably be offloading Ellis myself as don't think he has quite the tonne up capacities of Tyson, Dunstan and Polec but it's a tricky one and there's a decent chance you'll get it wrong in hindsight.

Dogs

I have to get rid of caddy and Rohan, they are going backwards and losing money when 1 was supposed to be a quick upgrade option and the other a money generating rookie. I don't have any swing men in the mids to move forward so I'm going to have to miss out on crouch, if I didn't have such a poor performing fwd line I would have traded out Tyson for crouch, as tysons BE is up to nearly 40 now and his scores are dropping every week

bob

Bob

what

WombatsFC

Yeah Jock was Smashed and obviously not coping with low rank of his team; maybe he's trying to get others to pull the ludicrous trade of a Polec, Tyson etc to Crouch.
Crouch = M10 scoring 70's
Fasolo = F6 scoring 80-100

In a season where forwards have been harder to find than an honest politician Fasolo is the obvious choice.

Azmataz

I am thinking of sorting my forwards out this week. Sick of getting the rubbish score of either JKH, Impey or Taylor. However, i am still going to wait until they make a bit more cash.
Daisy hasn't broke 100 in his first 4 games, and neither has T Mitchell, so am going to swing Taylor to the mid bench and bring in Fasolo and Nick Reiwoldt.
Any thoughts? I am pretty happy with an extra rookie being on the park in the mids, and think that the fwds have to be sorted first.

Adam

I've made 2 trades every week so far dammit FMSC

My original team was so bad…..

JB

Jaensch, Macrae, J Merrett, M Thomas, D Swallow are the Brendon Ellis of 2014 so far, thoughts on the next crop to look out for …

yes I do hav bacon

Brandon Ellis may be the next Brandon Ellis.

Callum

G’day guys. I’ve got 595k if I trade daisy out of my team. I am already definitely going caddy to Fasolo so I’m wondering whether to get Matt crouch for daisy or a non round 8 bye premo(e.g Watson, treloar, macrae, fyfe, wines and a few others in that sort of region, need some thoughts on who to get as a premo) So should I get crouch or premo? I’m leaning towards crouch

Cam_H

I've done the same trade and in almost exactly 'the same boat' as your situation Callum.

I'm tearing through trades faster than I want, so I'm probably going to hang on to Dale Thomas and see what happens with the rookies (specifically, Port's Sam Gray) next week. Thomas isn't (yet) bleeding cash and (arguably) has the potential to score better than he's done so far, but with that said, I can't see +$60,000 happening too quickly through his efforts as you can with a host of other players.

Anyway – interested to hear of the community's thought's on Callum's question. :O)

Wattsieesq

The key to SC is to get to a full complement of premiums as soon as possible. Will trading down to crouch and then to a premium get you there quicker than trading straight to a premium?

chandanrajdb

OUT: Caddy & Daisy

IN: Fasolo & Watson / Fyfe / Rockliff – make a call b/w these guys……go for the proven premium in your mid…..instead of going to likes of Macrae / Treloar etc….and again use one more trade to get a premium….

Just my thoughts…..

Cheers,
Raj…..