Round 4 Supercoach Scouting Report

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VonCrow_smallHowdy folks, Barron Von Crow here, and we’re here with our Round 4 Supercoach Scouting Report.

I’m sure Round 3 was a big improvement for many of you over the difficulties many faced with Round 2, with some big scores being posted, and hopefully we’ll see that trend continue into Round 4.

Also, remember to look out for the red and green Supercoach scores, RED = bad, GREEN = good which may help you out when it comes to picking your captains for the week.


First up, our Top 10 rankings

Round 3 Top 10

Overall Top 10 Rankings
1. Gary Ablett: 182 Supercoach Points ( 10 points)
2. Adam Treloar: 176 Supercoach Points (9 points)
3. Shane Mumford: 164 Supercoach Points (8 points)
4. Tom Rockliff: 155 Supercoach Points (7 points)
5. Tom Liberatore: 154 Supercoach Points (6 points)
6. Luke Dunstan: 154 Supercoach Points (5 points)
7. Mitch Duncan: 143 Supercoach Points (4 points)
8. Joel Selwood: 138 Supercoach Points (3 points)
9. Heath Hocking: 135 Supercoach Points (2 points)
10. Luke Parker / Steele Sidebottom: 131 Supercoach Points (1 point)

Overall Top 10 Rankings
1. Adam Treloar – 18 Points (2 appearances)
2. Joel Selwood – 17 Points (3 appearances)
3. Shane Mumford – 15 Points (2 appearances)
4. Gary Ablett – 14 Points (2 appearances)
5. Jobe Watson / Scott Pendlebury – 10 Points
6. Brent Harvey – 9 Points
7. Clinton Jones / Dayne Zorko – 8 Points
8. Ollie Wines / Tom Rockliff – 7 points
9. Dion Prestia / Mark LeCras / Nick Riewoldt / Aaron Sandilands / Tom Liberatore – 6 points
10. Nathan Jones / Steve Johnson / Luke Dunstan – 5 points

And the GWS youngster has managed to pip Joel Selwood for 1st place this week after recording the 2nd highest score in both Rounds 1 and 3, although Selwood does have the advantage of having been a top 10 scorer in every round so far this year. GWS ruckman Shane Mumford makes his 2nd appearance in are top 10 list for the round, along with Gary Ablett, meaning GWS now have the #1 and #3 ranked players on our list (wouldn’t have put $ on that happening at the start of the year!).

Now for the weekly matchups.

Richmond VS Collingwood

Friday, April 11, 7:20pm @ MCG

Richmond Betting Odds: Win @ $2.30
Collingwood Betting Odds: Win @ $1.63

Last time they met: Rd 4, 2013 – Richmond LOST TO Collingwood 79 – 113
Key scores: Travis Cloke 195, Dane Swam 168, Steele Sidebottom 136, Trent Cotchin 106

Key players:

Trent Cotchin

Price – $565,300 – Avg 109– BE 105
Last 3 VS Collingwood: Rd 4, 2013: 106, Rd 2, 2012: 101, Rd 4, 2011: 119
Total VS Collingwood Averages: 3 games, 108.67 Supercoach Points
@ MCG Averages: 101.76 Supercoach Points, High Score of 175

Dustin Martin

Price – $534,000 – Avg 98 – BE 105
Last 3 VS Collingwood: Rd 4, 2013: 80, Rd 2, 2012: 68, Rd 4, 2011: 109
Total VS Collingwood Averages: 4 games, 76.75 Supercoach Points
@ MCG Averages: 86.48 Supercoach Points, High Score of 137

Brett Deledio

Price – $558,800 – Avg 114 – BE 83
Last 3 VS Collingwood: Rd 4, 2013: 99, Rd 2, 2012: 145, Rd 4, 2011: 138
Total VS Collingwood Averages: 8 games, 115.0 Supercoach Points
@ MCG Averages: 102.38 Supercoach Points, High Score of 172

Scott Pendlebury

Price – $689,800 – Avg 141.33 – BE 87
Last 3 VS Richmond: Rd 4, 2013: 105, Rd 2, 2012: 127, Rd 4, 2011: 132
Total VS Richmond Averages: 7 games, 97.43 Supercoach Points
@ MCG Averages: 110.9 Supercoach Points, High Score of 170

Travis Cloke

Price – $435,600 – Avg 43.67 – BE 146
Last 3 VS Richmond: Rd 4, 2013: 195, Rd 2, 2012: 122, Rd 4, 2011: 87
Total VS Richmond Averages: 7 games, 101.29 Supercoach Points
@ MCG Averages: 86.94 Supercoach Points, High Score of 195

Dane Swan

Price – $564,400 – Avg 76.67 – BE 179
Last 3 VS Richmond: Rd 4, 2013: 168, Rd 2, 2012: 100, Rd 4, 2011: 163
Total VS Richmond Averages: 8 games, 127.75 Supercoach Points
@ MCG Averages: 116.51 Supercoach Points, High Score of 190

Captain Pick(s):

Previous form would suggest you pick Swan here, so hopefully he can use his good form against Richmond as a springboard for the rest of his season. Cloke scored a massive 195 last time they played Richmond, but I can’t see him getting 14 marks as well as kicking 7.2 with 8 Inside 50’s this week. Also, we cannot forget Dependlebury here, if you have him or Swan, a VC here would be my choice.

Carlton VS Melbourne

Saturday, April 12, 1:15pm @ MCG

Carlton Betting Odds: Win @ $1.13
Melbourne Betting Odds: Win @ $5.85

Last time they met: Rd 6, 2013 – Carlton BEAT Melbourne 121-60
Key scores: Andrew Walker 141, Jeff Garlett 135, Marc Murphy 131, Eddie Betts 126

Key players:

Marc Murphy

Price – $509,200 – Avg 107.67 – BE 82
Last 3 VS Melbourne: Rd 6, 2013: 131, Rd 20, 2011: 110, Rd 10, 2011: 147
Total VS Melbourne Averages: 8 games, 110.63 Supercoach Points
@ MCG Averages: 100.62 Supercoach Points, High Score of 187

Kade Simpson

Price – $488,900 – Avg 84 – BE 125
Last 3 VS Melbourne: Rd 6, 2013: 82, Rd 9, 2012: 99, Rd 20, 2011: 75
Total VS Melbourne Averages: 10 games, 94.90 Supercoach Points
@ MCG Averages: 96.98 Supercoach Points, High Score of 156

Bryce Gibbs

Price – $492,200 – Avg 85.67 – BE 116
Last 3 VS Melbourne: Rd 9, 2012: 99, Rd 20, 2011: 104, Rd 10, 2011: 82
Total VS Melbourne Averages: 7 games, 92.14 Supercoach Points
@ MCG Averages: 93.42 Supercoach Points, High Score of 150

Nathan Jones

Price – $488,500 – Avg 99 – BE 117
Last 3 VS Carlton: Rd 6, 2013: 95, Rd 9, 2012: 90, Rd 20, 2012: 81
Total VS Carlton Averages: 8 games, 84.13 Supercoach Points
@ MCG Averages: 83.65 Supercoach Points, High Score of 147

Bernie Vince (Note: all were as a Crows player)

Price – $433,200 – Avg 91.33 – BE 74
Last 3 VS Carlton: Rd 5, 2013: 94, Rd 8, 2012, 99, Rd 5, 2011: 92
Total VS Carlton Averages: 6 games, 103.50 Supercoach Points
@ MCG Averages: 87.82 Supercoach Points, High Score of 136

Dom Tyson

Price – $296,300 – Avg 103.3 – BE -34
Last 3 VS Carlton: Rd 6, 2012: 41
Total VS Carlton Averages: 1 game, 41 Supercoach Points
@ MCG Averages: 105 Supercoach Points, High Score of 105

Captain Pick(s):

Murphy would be a prime candidate to score well here, his previous form against the Dees would certainly suggest it. Melbourne and Carlton are both struggling so far this season, I think there will be a good chance we see a big score from someone in this game. Murphy for a VC selection here, skip Melbourne players completely

Pt Adelaide VS Brisbane

Saturday, April 12, 1:40pm @ Adelaide Oval

Port Adelaide Betting Odds: Win @ $1.13
Brisbane Betting Odds: Win @ $6.00

Last time they met: Rd 18, 2013 – Port Adelaide BEAT Brisbane 71-62
Key scores: Jay Schulz 113, Tom Rockliff 111, Chad Wingard 110, Hamish Hartlett 108

Key players:

Chad Wingard

Price – $512,300 – Avg 91.3 – BE 111
Last 3 VS Brisbane: Rd 18, 2013: 110, Rd 22, 2012: 87
Total VS Brisbane Averages: 2 games, 98.50 Supercoach Points
@ Adelaide Oval Averages: 104.0 Supercoach Points, High Score of 104

Hamish Hartlett

Price – $499,700 – Avg 105.3 – BE 51
Last 3 VS Brisbane: Rd 18, 2013: 108, Rd 15, 2011: 115, Rd 21, 2009: 52
Total VS Brisbane Averages: N/A
@ Adelaide Oval Averages: N/A

Travis Boak

Price – $524,400 – Avg 76.33 – BE 121
Last 3 VS Brisbane: Rd 18, 2013: 105, Rd 22, 2012: 134, Rd 15, 2011: 93
Total VS Brisbane Averages: 6 games, 93.67 Supercoach Points
@ Adelaide Oval Averages: 91.0 Supercoach Points, High Score of 99

Tom Rockliff

Price – $591,500 – Avg 125 – BE 79
Last 3 VS Port Adelaide: Rd 18, 2013: 111, Rd 22, 2012: 63, Rd 15, 2011: 120
Total VS Port Adelaide Averages: 4 games, 93.0 Supercoach Points
@ Adelaide Oval Averages: N/A

Jack Redden

Price – $529,700 – Avg 106.3 – BE 58
Last 3 VS Port Adelaide: Rd 18, 2013: 101, Rd 22, 2012: 137, Rd 15, 2011: 103
Total VS Port Adelaide Averages: 5 games, 106.0 Supercoach Points
@ Adelaide Oval Averages: N/A

Matthew Leuenberger

Price – $489,900 – Avg 79 – BE 114
Last 3 VS Port Adelaide: Rd 18, 2013: 88, Rd 15, 2011: 128, Rd 3, 2010: 78
Total VS Port Adelaide Averages: 3 games, 98.0 Supercoach Points
@ Adelaide Oval Averages: N/A

Captain Pick(s):

Nice score from Rockliff last week would mean you’d consider him a VC option here. Has been used on the opposition’s most damaging player this year, which means we could see another instance of Travis Boak having a poor game.

GWS Giants VS Western Bulldogs

Saturday, April 12, 4:10pm @ StarTrack Oval (Manuka Oval in Canberra)

GWS Betting Odds: Win @ $2.20
Western Bulldogs Betting Odds: Win @ $1.67

Last time they met: Rd 15, 2013 – GWS LOST TO Western Bulldogs 83-87
Key scores: Devon Smith 134, Michael Talia 129, Dylan Shiel 115, Nick Haynes / Luke Dahlhaus / Will Minson 114

Key players:

Shane Mumford (Note: all games were as a Swans player)

Price – $565,400 – Avg 151.33 – BE -8
Last 3 VS Western Bulldogs: Rd 19, 2013: 113, Rd 21, 2012: 113, Rd 10, 2012: 40
Total VS Western Bulldogs Averages: 8 games, 76.25 Supercoach Points
@ StarTrack Oval Averages: 92 Supercoach Points, High Score of 92

Adam Treloar

Price – $528,300 – Avg 134.67 – BE 41
Last 3 VS Western Bulldogs: Rd 15, 2013: 103, Rd 5, 2012: 53
Total VS Western Bulldogs Averages: 2 games, 77.50 Supercoach Points
@ StarTrack Oval Averages: 74.20 Supercoach Points, High Score of 102

Heath Shaw (Note: all were as a Collingwood player)

Price – $493,200 – Avg 82 – BE 113
Last 3 VS Western Bulldogs: Rd 12, 2013: 136, Rd 6, 2012: 120, Rd 6, 2011: 116
Total VS Western Bulldogs Averages: 9 games, 110.0 Supercoach Points
@ StarTrack Oval Averages: N/A

Tom Liberatore

Price – $575,900 – Avg 114.67 – BE 55
Last 3 VS GWS: Rd 15, 2013: 74, Rd 5, 2012: 46
Total VS GWS Averages: 2 games, 60.0 Supercoach Points
@ StarTrack Oval Averages: 60.0 Supercoach Points, High Score of 60

Ryan Griffen

Price – $627,200 – Avg 56 – BE 237
Last 3 VS GWS: Rd 15, 2013: 107, Rd 5, 2012: 155
Total VS GWS Averages: 2 games, 131.0 Supercoach Points
@ StarTrack Oval Averages: 112.0 Supercoach Points, High Score of 155

Will Minson

Price – $579,600 – Avg 95 – BE 99
Last 3 VS GWS: Rd 15, 2013: 114, Rd 5, 2012: 132
Total VS GWS Averages: 2 games, 123.0 Supercoach Points
@ StarTrack Oval Averages: 87.20 Supercoach Points, High Score of 132

Captain Pick(s):

Adam Treloar and Shane Mumford would be your guys on this one, although it will be interesting to see if Mumford can keep up his insane averages against a top notch big like Minson. Libba looks like he’s back into the swing of things and could be a sneaky choice here, but I’d avoid Griffen as he’s still struggling to score.

Geelong VS West Coast

Saturday, April 12, 7:10pm @ Simmonds Stadium

Geelong Betting Odds: Win @ $1.33
West Coast Betting Odds: Win @ $3.10

Last time they met: Rd 21, 2013: Geelong BEAT West Coast 107-41
Key scores: Joel Selwood 144, Jimmy Bartel / Matthew Stokes 135, Allen Christensen 126, Andrew Mackie 125

Key players:

Joel Selwood

Price – $662,000 – Avg 145 – BE 90
Last 3 VS West Coast: Rd 21, 2013: 144, Rd 20, 2012: 99, Rd 11, 2010: 123
Total VS West Coast Averages: 5 games, 104.20 Supercoach Points
@ Simmonds Stadium Averages: 116.45 Supercoach Points, High Score of 175

Tom Hawkins

Price – $358,100 – Avg 70.67 – BE 22
Last 3 VS West Coast: Rd 20, 2012: 15, Rd 22, 2012: 116, Rd 11, 2009, 109
Total VS West Coast Averages: 4 games, 62.75 Supercoach Points
@ Simmonds Stadium Averages: 77.54 Supercoach Points, High Score of 135

Steve Johnson

Price – $610,000 – Avg 113.33 – BE 115
Last 3 VS West Coast: Rd 21, 2013: 110, Rd 20, 2012: 140, Rd 16, 2011: 93
Total VS West Coast Averages: 8 games, 88.13 Supercoach Points
@ Simmonds Stadium Averages: 98.13 Supercoach Points, High Score of 199

Dean Cox

Price – $558,400 – Avg 100 – BE 126
Last 3 VS Geelong: Rd 21, 2013: 89, Rd 20, 2012: 190, Rd 11, 2010: 101
Total VS Geelong Averages: 7 games, 109.57 Supercoach Points
@ Simmonds Stadium Averages: 68.5 Supercoach Points, High Score of 75

Luke Shuey

Price – $503,600 – Avg 108.33 – BE 30
Last 3 VS Geelong: Rd 21, 2013: 27, Rd 20, 2012: 133, Rd 11, 2010: 71
Total VS Geelong Averages: 4 games, 78.50 Supercoach Points
@ Simmonds Stadium Averages: 83.0 Supercoach Points, High Score of 83

Nic Naitanui

Price – $479,300 – Avg 73.67 – BE 99
Last 3 VS Geelong: Rd 20, 2012: 153, Rd 16, 2011: 115, Rd 11, 2010: 79
Total VS Geelong Averages: 4 games, 112.75 Supercoach Points
@ Simmonds Stadium Averages: 104 Supercoach Points, High Score of 104

Captain Pick(s):

Selwood is quickly becoming a “set and forget” option for us in Supercoach and this matchup will be no different. Nic Nat scored big last time he played Geelong, but with them now fielding Simpson, McIntosh and Blicavs, they’re probably one of the few teams who could man up with the Eagles trio of bigs also.

GC Suns VS Hawthorn

Saturday, April 12, 7:10pm @ Metricon Stadium

Gold Coast Betting Odds: Win @ $4.00
Hawthorn Betting Odds: Win @ $1.25

Last time they met: Rd 9, 2013 – Gold Coast LOST TO Hawthorn 92-118
Key scores: Gary Ablett 149, Jordan Lewis 121, Max Bailey 120, Dion Prestia 118

Key players:

Dion Prestia

Price – $551,600 – Avg 124.33 – BE 78
Last 3 VS Hawthorn: Rd 9, 2013: 118, Rd 24, 2011: 67, Rd 13, 2011: 28
Total VS Hawthorn Averages: 3 games, 71.0 Supercoach Points
@ Metricon Stadium Averages: 89.23 Supercoach Points, High Score of 151

Gary Ablett

Price – $707,000 – Avg 147.67 – BE 90
Last 3 VS Hawthorn: Rd 9, 2013: 149, Rd 21, 2012: 189, Rd 13, 2011: 144
Total VS Hawthorn Averages: 11 games, 131.0 Supercoach Points
@ Metricon Stadium Averages: 132.71 Supercoach Points, High Score of 188

David Swallow

Price – $476,700 – Avg 121.33 – BE 36
Last 3 VS Hawthorn: Rd 9, 2013: 71, Rd 24, 2011: 56
Total VS Hawthorn Averages: 2 games, 63.50 Supercoach Points
@ Metricon Stadium Averages: 78.0 Supercoach Points, High Score of 135

Sam Mitchell

Price – $562,600 – Avg 99 – BE 115
Last 3 VS Gold Coast: Rd 9, 2013: 109, Rd 24, 2011: 93, Rd 13, 2011: 144
Total VS Gold Coast Averages: 3 games, 115.33 Supercoach Points
@ Metricon Stadium Averages: 126.0 Supercoach Points, High Score of 156

Cyril Rioli

Price – $467,600 – Avg 107.50 – BE 50
Last 3 VS Gold Coast: Rd 13, 2011: 85
Total VS Gold Coast Averages: 1 game, 85.0 Supercoach Points
@ Metricon Stadium Averages: N/A

Ben McEvoy (Note: all were as a St Kilda player)

Price – $503,300 – Avg 101.50 – BE 77
Last 3 VS Gold Coast: Rd 22, 2013: 102, Rd 1, 2013: 99, Rd 2, 2012: 117
Total VS Gold Coast Averages: 4 games, 108.0 Supercoach Points
@ Metricon Stadium Averages: 106.50 Supercoach Points, High Score of 114

Captain Pick(s):

Gary Ablett! He’s had a terrific average over his past 3 (160.67) and he should be your C pick here if you have him.

Sydney VS Nth Melbourne

Sunday, April 13, 12:40pm @ SCG

Sydney Betting Odds: Win @ $1.38
North Melbourne Betting Odds: Win @ $3.10

Last time they met: Rd 3, 2013 – Sydney BEAT North Melbourne 131-92
Key scores: Daniel Hannebery 140, Josh Kennedy 136, Ben Cunnington 127, Daniel Wells 125

Key players:

Lance Franklin (Note: All were as a Hawthorn player)

Price – $475,000 – Avg 87.67 – BE 55
Last 3 VS North Melbourne: Rd 22, 2013: 116, Rd 5, 2013: 57, Rd 10, 2013: 236
Total VS North Melbourne Averages: 9 games, 119.44 Supercoach Points
@ SCG Averages: 101.25 Supercoach Points, High Score of 146

Jarrad McVeigh

Price – $537,400 – Avg 87.67 – BE 118
Last 3 VS North Melbourne: Rd 3, 2013: 123, Rd 4, 2012: 117, Rd 10, 2011: 103
Total VS North Melbourne Averages: 8 games, 82.88 Supercoach Points
@ SCG Averages: 89.23 Supercoach Points, High Score of 158

Luke Parker

Price – $483,100 – Avg 104.33 – BE 51
Last 3 VS North Melbourne: Rd 3, 2013: 86, Rd 4, 2012: 128, Rd 10, 2011: 37
Total VS North Melbourne Averages: 3 games, 83.67 Supercoach Points
@ SCG Averages: 78.0 Supercoach Points, High Score of 133

Nick Dal Santo

Price – $538,200 – Avg 114.33 – BE 52
Last 3 VS Sydney: Rd 21, 2013: 68, Rd 5, 2013: 78 Rd 9, 2012: 130
Total VS Sydney Averages: 11 games, 103.82 Supercoach Points
@ SCG Averages: 95.50 Supercoach Points, High Score of 141

Brent Harvey

Price – $570,600 – Avg 119 – BE 34
Last 3 VS Sydney: Rd 4, 2012: 46, Rd 10, 2011: 63, Rd 4, 2010: 109
Total VS Sydney Averages: 7 games, 73.29 Supercoach Points
@ SCG Averages: 61.67 Supercoach Points, High Score of 99

Ben Cunnington

Price – $506,500 – Avg 95.33 – BE 88
Last 3 VS Sydney: Rd 3, 2013: 127, Rd 4, 2012: 98, Rd 10, 2011: 29
Total VS Sydney Averages: 4 games, 81.25 Supercoach Points
@ SCG Averages: 84.50 Supercoach Points, High Score of 98

Captain Pick(s):

Franklin fired last week and has a very good career average against North (Though that score of 236 increases his average by about 15 points). Harvey has been terrible against Sydney in recent times and looks even worse at the SCG. With most of our best selections having already played, there isn’t much I’d be taking a good hard look at here.

St Kilda VS Adelaide

Sunday, April 13, 2:50pm @ Etihad Stadium

St Kilda Betting Odds: Win @ $2.20
Adelaide Betting Odds: Win @ $1.67

Last time they met: Rd 8, 2013 – St Kilda LOST TO Adelaide 47-87
Key scores: Leigh Montagna 137, David Mackay 136, Rory Sloane 129, Richard Douglas 128

Key players:

Nick Riewoldt

Price – $581,100 – Avg 123.67 – BE 85
Last 3 VS Adelaide: Rd 8, 2013: 97, Rd 12, 2012: 59, Rd 6, 2011: 47
Total VS Adelaide Averages: 9 games, 90.0 Supercoach Points
@ Etihad Stadium Averages: 114.17 Supercoach Points, High Score of 171

Leigh Montagna

Price – $619,000 – Avg 101 – BE 142
Last 3 VS Adelaide: Rd 8, 2013: 137, Rd 12, 2012: 123, Rd 6, 2011: 80
Total VS Adelaide Averages: 10 games, 114.20 Supercoach Points
@ Etihad Stadium Averages: 109.67 Supercoach Points, High Score of 174

Tom Hickey (Note: 2012 were as a Gold Coast player)

Price – $357,600 – Avg 96 – BE 9
Last 3 VS Adelaide: Rd 8, 2013: 25, Rd 23, 2012: 8, Rd 1, 2012: 45
Total VS Adelaide Averages: 4 games, 36.25 Supercoach Points
@ Etihad Stadium Averages: 74.10 Supercoach Points, High Score of 127

Patrick Dangerfield

Price – $571,400 – Avg 93 – BE 146
Last 3 VS St Kilda: Rd 8, 2013: 89, Rd 12, 2012: 86, Rd 6, 2011: 94
Total VS St Kilda Averages: 8 games, 69.88 Supercoach Points
@ Etihad Stadium Averages: 83.67 Supercoach Points, High Score of 174

Sam Jacobs

Price – $468,400 – Avg 98 – BE 80
Last 3 VS St Kilda: Rd 8, 2013: 101, Rd 12, 2012: 136, Rd 6, 2011: 110
Total VS St Kilda Averages: 5 games, 106.0 Supercoach Points
@ Etihad Stadium Averages: 75.84 Supercoach Points, High Score of 107

Richard Douglas

Price – $549,900 – Avg 107.5 – BE 91
Last 3 VS St Kilda: Rd 8, 2013: 128, Rd 12, 2012: 89, Rd 6, 2011: 119
Total VS St Kilda Averages: 8 games, 84.38 Supercoach Points
@ Etihad Stadium Averages: 82.69 Supercoach Points, High Score of 141

Captain Pick(s):

The Crows issues with goals scored from turnovers makes me think Riewoldt is in line for a big one here, much like Franklin last week. Only issue will be the 2nd last game of the week, so you won’t have a backup if you use him as Captain. Danger is in poor form and has been against the Saints in recent times, so I’d avoid him here, even if he is capable of having a big game.

Fremantle VS Essendon

Sunday, April 13, 4:10pm @ Patersons Stadium

Fremantle Betting Odds: Win @ $1.77
Essendon Betting Odds: Win @ $2.05

Last time they met: Rd 3, 2013 – Fremantle LOST TO Essendon 68-72
Key scores: Patrick Ryder 145, Jake Carlisle 135, Nathan Fyfe 129, Clancee Pearce 113

Key players:

Matthew Pavlich

Price – $427,000 – Avg 79.33 – BE 79
Last 3 VS Essendon: Rd 3, 2013: 59, Rd 13, 2012: 117, Rd 12. 2011: 133
Total VS Essendon Averages: 9 games, 113.22 Supercoach Points
@ Patersons Stadium Averages: 108.28 Supercoach Points, High Score of 179

Aaron Sandilands

Price – $398,500 – Avg 128.33 – BE -36
Last 3 VS Essendon: Rd 2, 2010: 104, Rd 21, 2009: 135, Rd 2, 2010: 104
Total VS Essendon Averages: 5 games, 95.20 Supercoach Points
@ Patersons Stadium Averages: 95.60 Supercoach Points, High Score of 163

David Mundy

Price – $547,700 – Avg 102.67 – BE 92
Last 3 VS Essendon: Rd 3, 2013: 91, Rd 13, 2012: 68, Rd 12. 2011: 6
Total VS Essendon Averages: 9 games, 77.0 Supercoach Points
@ Patersons Stadium Averages: 91.26 Supercoach Points, High Score of 154

Jobe Watson

Price – $606,200 – Avg 123.67 – BE 123
Last 3 VS Fremantle: Rd 3, 2013: 67, Rd 13, 2012: 120, Rd 12, 2011: 67
Total VS Fremantle Averages: 9 games, 82.56 Supercoach Points
@ Patersons Stadium Averages: 87.10 Supercoach Points, High Score of 127

Heath Hocking

Price – $399,700 – Avg 97.67 – BE -7
Last 3 VS Fremantle: Rd 3, 2013: 57, Rd 13, 2012: 52, Rd 2, 2010: 105
Total VS Fremantle Averages: 4 games, 84.0 Supercoach Points
@ Patersons Stadium Averages: 74.40 Supercoach Points, High Score of 115

Paul Chapman

Price – $495,800 – Avg 116.33 – BE 51
Last 3 VS Fremantle: Rd 1, 2012: 90, Rd 2, 2012: 119, Rd 3, 2010: 149
Total VS Fremantle Averages: 5 games, 112.20 Supercoach Points
@ Patersons Stadium Averages: 115.38 Supercoach Points, High Score of 149

Captain Pick(s):

Watson has been terrible against Freo and in Perth in recent times, so he doesn’t look like he’ll be your man here. Sandilands could have a big one here, but you’d likely use your Ablett / Pendles / Selwood picks already.

Barron Von Crow’s Round 3 Captain Selection:

Apart from the usual 3 Amigos (Selwood, Pendlebury and Ablett) Mumford and Treloar have been the two biggest standouts from the pack this year, so they’d be your ideal VC picks. I also really like Liberatore, Nick Riewoldt and Marc Murphy this week. I know a lot of people have been using Max King as their loophole option, and with the Dees having the early Saturday game, that’ll mean you’ll only have the Carlton VS Collingwood game to use your VC on if that’s the way you usually roll. Patrick Ambrose’s injury could be very handy here from a loophole perspective, as Essendon plays the last game of the round, so that’d allow you to set your VC / C anyway you’d like.

Now i’m in the same Max King situation here, which means if I want to loophole I’ll have to use Dayne Beams as my VC, with the obvious Gary Ablett Captain choice.

Alright, that’ll do us for our Round 4 Supercoach Scouting Report. Who are you guys looking at to use as your Captain and Vice-Captain choices this week? Let us know in the comments below, or send us some Twitter mail @BarronVonCrow

Barron Von Crow



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  1. SamuelScoach says:

    Murphy into Ablett for me,

    nothing less than 145 from Murph for me to activate it.

    Ablett's last 3 scores against the Hawks are sky high

  2. hmmmmm says:

    great work barron
    tough decision to trade or not this week
    not sure on what to do, my options are:
    rohan to crouch & clay cameron to j kelly
    rohan to crouch and higgins to j merret
    what do u guys think?

  3. GeneralSoreness says:

    Pendles into GAJ! Have to loop Max King! Unless another is not playing then I would look at Libba into GAJ or GAJ into Sandi.

  4. Swans2014 says:

    Top form like always

  5. Bill says:

    Thoughts on Jeremy Laidler??? Looking for a downgrade option for R.Shaw!!

    • SCaddict says:

      Not a terrible option but I'd probably go down to KK instead if you don't have him already.

      • Bill says:

        Thanks mate!! What about Rohan down to Lewis Taylor??

        • SCaddict says:

          Yes reckon that would be a trade well spent Bill.

          Can't see Rohan getting out of 40-50 rut any time soon and think Taylor is capable of eclipsing that so you may as well pocket the $40K.

  6. SCaddict says:

    Another mighty performance Barron! Cotch into Yablett for me.

  7. canman1306 says:

    Pendles into Ablett for me

  8. Mikey says:

    Love your work but .. Wingard won't be playing.

  9. Timscoach says:

    Hey fellas love the page
    Was just wondering what to do with Brett Deledio? Held onto him last week but if not named should I move on? I currently have Aish and Cunnigham as cover. I want to hold onto him but I feel like I am losing valuable points and it can't be confirmed anywhere how long he is out for.

    • canman1306 says:

      If you have Kept him for 1 week May aswell keep him for another.
      Only Trade I would consider would be trading him to one of the big (Ablett Pendles Selwood)
      Go with your gut with this one

    • Derek says:

      If you get rid of him, use him to fix your biggest problem. What is your biggest problem right now, if it is in defence, bring a premium into defence, using Langdon as swing trade

  10. mrfosak says:

    Looking at just one trade, Rohan out – S. May in (DPP) then either Laidler or KK into Defence. Thoughts?

    • Beady Eye says:

      For the role he plays, you're overpaying for May. There's a reason he's never averaged above 65 before.

    • Derek says:

      Nope to both. Don’t burn trades

    • mrfosak says:

      Already have May, just looking to move fwd to then upgrade after a couple more price increases, then KK into defence, bound to make more cash than Rohan?

  11. Mark2013 says:

    Hey community,
    Just wondering what you think I should do with Sdt. Avg 83 which is below par. Should I move him on to a player like Hanley or Bartel or downgrade? Any thoughts?

    • SCaddict says:

      His round 2 score was sub affected due to a relatively minor injury so wouldn't read too much into his average.

      I would definitely hang on to him if he's named this week which appears extremely likely.

      • Mark2013 says:

        The north one!

        • SCaddict says:

          Ha ha thought you were talking about Enright who also has a similar average and some folk have considered trading.

          No I would still hang on to him. 83 whilst subpar is not terrible scoring and certainly not worth moving a premo defender for especially if he is fit. I have similar issues with McVeigh but will definitely be keeping him.

  12. cyril says:

    Pendles to Ablett for me

  13. cyril says:

    Can Clurey break into ports side and generate some cash at some stage?

    • SCaddict says:

      It's possible. Let's see what Hinkley does tomorrow coming off a loss. If he's not named then maybe you should consider a Laidler or KK upgrade if you can afford it, as I assume you already have Clurey.

      Otherwise you will just have to hold unless some other cheap defensive rookies are named this weekend.

    • Derek says:

      I think he will be named

    • Sean says:

      As a Port supporter I reckon if we add Clurey to a defence already including Carlile/Trengove/Hombsch/Jonas it will be too top heavy, especially as Brisbane don't have a very tall forward line.
      Gary Hocking (the coach of the Port Maggies) said this about Clurey, "Tom’s ball use was OK down back but he wasn’t able to really pressure and dominate his opponent. He needs to dictate to his opponent more often and wasn’t able to impact in the way he’s capable of. This week is a perfect opportunity for him to find his form against his old SANFL side."
      So he would need to gain form before he cracks the side again.

  14. trickster says:

    got mitchie an ryan griffin in my midfield … should I trade them both … griffins bout to drop 60 k an has been playing crap plus I don't have dyson from melbourne

    • Beady Eye says:

      Sounds like win-win to me. Catch Tyson while he still has some rises left in him, and still get a premium to replace Griffen.

    • SCaddict says:

      It's indeed a tricky one Trickster as it's generally not a good idea to trade out elite players although he is about to leak a heck of a lot of cash. The Doggies have a slightly easier run coming up with GWS, Crows, Blues and Griffen is likely to regain his match fitness soon.

      Do you hang on and perhaps see a quick bounce back or cut your losses and burn a trade?? Glad it's a decision I don't have to make. Similar predicament for Swan owners. May be a good opportunity to upgrade to a GAJ or Pendles before Griffen drops in value if you can afford it.

      Michie obviously has to go after busting his jaw on the weekend. Whilst it's not too late to get on the Tyson express you've already missed a big chunk of his cash generation potential jumping $80K this week.

      One to consider is Josh Kelly who is on the bubble this week who could provide similar output to Tyson. Matty Crouch is another cheap option to look at assuming he is named tomorrow night and not a casualty of Sando's chopping block after last week's belting.

      • throttlefinger says:

        Be careful about Kelly. That was against the Dees. He's not going to be as prominent in the Giants midfield as Tyson is. Was a sub a week ago.

        Not saying the potential isn't there. Just think Tyson has had considerable more AFL experience so his scores aren't as surprising. Kelly will be at those number next year. Can't see it this season.

        • SCaddict says:

          That's true Throttle. The sample size is pretty small and he had kind of the perfect game last weekend kicking a couple of cracking goals. Can't see that happening week in week out.

          Though he is playing on ball in an improving Giants side so don't think it's unreasonable to expect an 85-90 output from the kidd which would see him appreciate fairly rapidly by around $200K.

          Giants also seemed to have moved past that rotation policy of previous seasons and are reaping the benefits of having a consistent cohesive group out on the park each week. So hopefully he isn't rested more than a week, at least up to their bye.

          • throttlefinger says:

            Very true about their rotations. Schizo last couple seasons. Kelly is silky smooth, Pendles-esque player.

            Think 85-90 is a bit ambitious for a rook on a non top 10 team. But if anyone could do it, this kid might be the one.

            • SCaddict says:

              The forgotten man Toby Greene averaged about 95 in his first year so it's doable.

              Better stop talking him up though for if he bombs out this weekend I will be left with egg on my face he he.

              Seriously tempted to dump Daisy for him especially with my midfield bench scoring off the charts. Seems silly to bench Daisy at over $350K but these guys (Dunstan and Ellis) have been outscoring him.

              • throttlefinger says:

                Kelly is too good. Your prediction will probably bare out.

                I mean, if you were ever going to make a reason to dump Daisy, that's the best one. Otherwise his BE is very low and he's going to gain another $25K at least in value. Tough call. But if you believe either Dunstan and Ellis will continue to outscore him, I'd make the trade.

    • WombatsFC says:

      Hi Tricky, I reckon dumping Michie is a must he's got a busted Jaw and will miss a few more games yet. You don't want a cash cows spot taken up by a non player. There are a few low priced players on the bubble this week that will enable you to downgrade him and pocket some cash on the trade and also gain an extra 50k from the organic price increase; Buckley should play every game from here on unless injured as he was the only blue who showed any heart at all against the dons, his low score was more due to other players letting him down remember he was the NAB rising star after his first game this year.
      Griff is a genuine dilemma, will he return to the form of the past few years or has the structure at bulldogs changed his role? I'd switch him for Jelwood, Gaz or Pendle.

  15. dogs says:

    my only option is beams into ablett, as king is my loophole player and i have no-one else who plays before melbourne.

    it would have been very interesting if freo v bombers was earlier and bombers went in without dedeicated rucks like last week.

    • SCaddict says:

      Beams is a very decent option mate. Close call for me on whether I slap the VC on Cotch or Beamsy. Either would have to clock at least 135 before I consider taking the C off GAJ though given his white hot form of late.

  16. Fitzy says:

    if I keep Wingard on field and have JKH and rohan as emergencies, will I get the lower score of the 2?

    • SCaddict says:

      Yes you always get the lower score if only one emergency is required for that line so it's generally not a good idea to run with a double E in one line.

  17. steve says:

    ok guys, studied. wathced your comments = clueless. any chance of some ideas? Ive placed 'keepers' at the front in caps?

    BACKS – BARTEL, MCVEIGH, May, Swallow, Langdon, Suckling, Langford, Laidlaw
    MIDS – ABLETT, PENDLES, WINES, WATSON,BEAMS,J SELWOOD, Tyson, Polec, Ellis, Cunningham
    FWDS, DANGER, MARTIN, Gunstan, Wright, Caddy, Kennedy Harris, Rohan, Thurlow.

    Help:) I understand not to sideways trade and need the rookies for 8-10 rounds….. happy with MID but not the rest. curerntly 10,00 with $165 spare?? cheers lads

    • SCaddict says:

      Not a bad squad Steve. If I was running this team I would definitely upgrade Rohan to either a Higgins or Merrett. Or you could wait a week and see how Fasolo goes in his 2nd game.

      You could also do some fiddling around the edges such as Langford to KK or say a JKH or Thurlow to Lewis Taylor. But these sorts of trades are far from mandatory and only recommended if you really like the idea.

      First and foremost I would fix up your F6 problem.

    • MightyDonsFC says:

      Swallow not a keeper :o, I'd make Rohan into merrett or Fasolo

      • steve says:

        fasola to rohan works and leaves $122……..would you trade swallow now? or keep and move caddy on?

        • SCaddict says:

          No way on earth should you ditch Swallow. He's an absolute keeper mate and I only wish I had him myself!

          Yes Caddy is a candidate for trading but you have to have a plan of who you want to get in and not just get rid of him for the sake of it. I upgraded him to Zorko last week.

          For all we know Caddy could turn it around this week and tonne up at the Cattery, though not holding my breath, so only move him if there is a player that you like a whole lot better, which you can also afford of course.

        • MightyDonsFC says:

          Keep swallow at least till byes! Fasolo looked comfortable in his new role and I'd move caddy on to merrett

          • Steve says:

            Would you do caddy to Merritt for future $ and some points or zorko for points and a keeper of a fwd spot?

  18. Vasco says:

    Which two trades should I make?
    – J.Caddy –> M.Jaensch or J.Merrett
    – V.Michie –> J.Kelly
    – G.Rohan –> L.Taylor

    • Derek says:

      Only kelly

    • Beady Eye says:

      Burnman Rohan. The hair should have been a giveaway.

      • Gold Rush says:

        Mate, I was rapt I did not pick Rohan, went for GWS's Sam Frost, did not have much expectations on him but felt he would score better then Rohan – still he is another version of a burnman – FROSTBITEMAN and it burns!!!!

  19. JB says:

    Who are the best Top 10 Forwards thoughts?

    • MightyDonsFC says:

      Hard but….
      (In no particular order)

      Honourable mentions: Mitchell, Gray, Cyril, Westoff, Merrett, Franklin, Darling, JKH, Petrie and Rohan

      • rob says:

        Love how its more or less the ones who are top now or last year. No cloke mayne petrie mitchell? Any newcomers? Think Cyril could also make it in top ten.. such a hard one.. I do agree tho as it should look quite similar. Jkh, rohan?

    • Shinboner says:

      In no particular order, and just off the top of my head:
      N Roo
      Zorko/Bruest (can't split it)

    • JB says:

      The overall winner could be the one that completes the Forward line first … time will tell

  20. Gold Rush says:

    Stuff it, pulled the pin on Caddy as the where there is smoke there be a BURNMAN.

    • SCaddict says:

      Who did you trade him to mate? I upgraded Caddy to Zorko last week and though not enamoured with the immediate results still fairly happy with that move.

      • Gold Rush says:

        Recommended a poster not to do this yesterday, but today's a new day – traded down and went for the cash generation to Fasolo, live near Vic Park and been keeping an eye on him in the two's – his skills were a cut above all others by heaps. If he can stay injury free, I'm sure he will generate some good cash as a stepping stone to a gun.

      • throttlefinger says:

        Yeah, I went Wright to Zorko…wasn't satisfying either. Especially since Wright went 100. Ugh.

        • SCaddict says:

          I don't have Wrighty in SC but I have him in AFL Fantasy and made a point of keeping him despite his disappointing start as if he was ever going to produce it would probably be rounds 4-7.

          Same reason I started with Danger as I knew it would tough to bring him in at Rd4 even though I expected a slow start from him. Hopefully he and Sauce Jacobs can wreak some havoc on the comp over the next month as the Crows are in dire need of some positive results.

          Don't blame you for ditching him for Zorko though. He was going gangbusters in the first few rounds against top opposition and we just had to jump on him any way we could.

          Had the stuffing knocked out him last weekend but I have no doubt he will return to prodigious output soon though perhaps not quite at the heady heights of the opening rounds. Surely his days of being a burnman are behind him ha ha?!

          • throttlefinger says:

            Man, I hope so, SCaddict. These sub 2200 rounds aren't good for the ego.

            • SCaddict says:

              Hey you are still doing much better than I am so don't expect me to cry a river for you just yet. I'm travelling about as well as Higgo and Jock, that is to say not too flash at around 30,000 odd.

              But I'm just stoked to be atop the Throttledome! Likely just a one week wonder though ha ha. Hope you didn't cop too much smack from Wombats.

              Are you developing any nervous twitches not having GAJ in your side or still intending to hold firm until the byes?

              At least Pendles has done his job and then some. Mummy (or Mommy as you yanks would say) also helped hold your head above water last weekend.

              • throttlefinger says:

                Funny you should ask that, SCaddict. I was resolved about holding firm until the byes. Then Lids was out a 2nd week. Heard instead of foot injury it was an Achilles problem that is somewhat chronic. See this being a niggling injury.

                Now the smart fix would've been to go Smurph or maybe even Mitchell. Then I took a step back. And the lack of a 1-2 punch became evident. Was hoping Danger would help shore that gap. He has been typical slow to form and looks a bit hampered from all the punishment.

                So I'm leaning towards upgrading Lids to Jelwood and ditching Danger for either Rioli or Pav. Yes, sideway trades are horrible. But I'm seeing this as a corrective. And why can only mids and rooks be available to correctives?

                See this as springing new life into my team. And the plan is not to trade rounds 5-6. Should be good to go from there.

                Traveling at 44K rank. You're doing better than me, my man. Plus killing it in T-dome. Hope I can move up from my 10 spot. Wombats is my buddy so he was incredibly gracious in victory. Consider myself lucky.

                • WombatsFC says:

                  Come on I wasn't gracious at all. I harassed you with abrasive comments for most of Tuesday. The Wombats are about to slide I think. the backline is causing major grief even with enright back. cant decide on dumping enright and getting Jeansch then going jkh to merret OR Clurey to LMcD

                  • throttlefinger says:

                    Haha. Well as gracious as you can be. And you were hardly abusive. If anything I was a tad reactionary.

                    Not feeling Jaensch. Barron made a good point that he is like Brent Reilly in 2012. "First 9 games of 2012, Reilly averaged 99 with 6 100+ games. Next 13 only averaged 85 with 4 100+ games. Jaensh in exact same situation."

                    Think Cats were begin cautious with Corey. Mr. SD is worth keeping.

                    JKH seems to stand for Just King-size Headaches. Gonna ride out. Got other problems.

                    Clurey to McD makes sense. Assume you have Thumper?

                    • WombatsFC says:

                      No I don't have him and I didn't do the Clurey to Lmcd; that probably gives me a massive POD in defense no Thumper and no Luke.
                      I ended up going Langford for Jaensch. I can accept the worst case scenario of averaging 80-85 from a moneymaking D5 but he could also have a breakout similar to Andy Walker a couple of years ago and become a keeper.
                      I kept Caddy (another POD?) but if Fasolo can walk off the field at the end of the game Josh will be expelled from the burrow.
                      Are you using Deledio to get that ablett bloke from GCS?

                    • throttlefinger says:

                      Would like to but not enough cash. Leaning towards another at GCS: Prestia. POD and doubt with Lord G he will get the hard tag. Gaz is first trade of R9.

                      Caddy isn't long for Team Throttle. Fasolo is one move. Or wait until Honeycutt or another downgradable rook comes along before R7/8.

                    • WombatsFC says:

                      Too much M.A.S.H. on TV?

                    • throttlefinger says:

                      Yes. I don't want to get Major Burns.

                      MASH BONUS SCORE!

                • SCaddict says:

                  Nah mate you're reading it wrong. 44,000 was just your Round 3 rank…you are doing fairly well ranked 6,124 overall.

                  • throttlefinger says:

                    "He read it wrong" will be my epithet.

                    Taking deep breath. Gonna keep Danger. Half of me wants to make the bold move. Other says back your team. While love to get Jelwood in, I'll have to wait.

                    • SCaddict says:

                      Actually to be precise I'm travelling as well as Higgo.

                      I just checked and Jock is actually in the top 8000 like you so my mistake there. You're definitely within pouncing distance of the top 1,000 if you have a good couple of rounds.

                    • throttlefinger says:

                      We shall see. Resisting the urge to go big POD and trade out Lids and Danger. Seems like that kind of move is what gets you in the top 500 (or bottom 20,000).

                      Leaning towards Prestia for Lids. But still got the hankering to bring in another big scorer. Thoughts?

                    • SCaddict says:

                      Yes no question Lids has to go given his situation and yours. Prestia is one of the form players of the competition right now and the Suns have a great draw coming up so he looks to be a solid replacement if he can hold that form.

                      GAJ or Selwood would give you some additional serious punch along with Watson and Pendles but I guess you would have to shake up your team a fair bit to make that happen.

                      Danger could really explode in the next 4 rounds so I'd be hesitant to recommend you trade him down but I guess these sorts of bold decisions could separate you from the rest of the pack either positively or negatively., though hopefully the former.

                    • throttlefinger says:

                      I made my bed with Danger so I need to play it out, SCaddict. Traditionally he's a slow burn.

                      To bring in Jelwood would mean I'd have to trade a prem, like Dusty or Roughy. Don't know if that's worth it. I mean, Dusty to Pav? With Lids out he's gonna get more attention.

                      Also Jelwood is only owned by 15%. That's a high score POD.

                      If not, just go Lids to Prestia. That's the most reasonable. Hmmm.

                    • throttlefinger says:

                      OK need your thoughts on this, Addict. Been pouring through the numbers all day and no clear path has come out (or I'm missing it).

                      Option A
                      Deal Lids for Prestia. What I get is an extreme POD (.83% own) and a guy who won't get the hard tag. Consistency may be an issue and doubt he will be able to keep the 124 ave he has no. Strong apples to even better apples move.

                      Option B
                      Lids for Jelwood. In order to do this I'd need to drop Dusty for either Pav (whose form I think is picking up) or someone else 441K (De Boer is another. DPP too). What I get is a Gaz/Pendles level superscorer who is only owned by 15%. Thus gives me a strong inroad to moving up the ranks. But I'd have to do an ugly sideways trade to make this happen. Not thrilled with Dusty's form and think Pav can match in the end. Or Pav's will be like Dimma's Cloke. Gain value than trade at height. Regardless, with this move I don't need to trade for next 2 rounds (true if I do Prestia too).

                      OK, shoot it to me straight, my man. Horrible, misguided or possible brilliant move?

                    • SCaddict says:

                      Gee both options have their risks and rewards. I know Dimmawitts is big on Pav but he is 32, a recent history of injury, and Freo are more a side that relies on its defensive pressure than goal scoring. So just not sure he's going to get back to his ton generating form of yesteryear. But you're right there's not too much else worth jumping at around that $440K price point.

                      Dusty's form has only been ok and had a poor week last weekend as did many of his mates. Still think your Tiges are better than they are currently showing though the Lids out will hurt in the short term.

                      On the other hand Jelwood is an out and out superstar in the prime of his career. Prestia although off to a flyer is still a developing player and more likely to have ups and downs.

                      If pressed I would probably lean towards options A as it conserves a trade but this could be a season defining call so you really have to own this one I reckon. I will be curious to see which way you go or whether you come up with an option C. But Lids has to go, that's the only one certainty here.

                    • throttlefinger says:

                      Option C: Take Polec out to pasture and use money for upgrade to Jelwood. Would take care of headache of deciding between Dunstan, Ellis and Polec for bench each week. A good headache mind you. Yet one less one.

                      You've made a good point about Prestia. And that's my concern.

                      Appreciate your thoughts, SCaddict. Really do.

                    • SCaddict says:

                      You'll be cashing in Polec a few weeks early but will be bringing in a superstar and keeping Dusty so think it's a reasonable compromise there.

                      All the best for the weekend and I'll be following your progress!

                    • throttlefinger says:

                      Best to you too, my friend. Here's hope we both push North of 2500!

              • throttlefinger says:

                Then again, just might keep Danger and just swap Lids for Prestia. Chriissst.

                • Dools says:

                  Stay strong TF NO Trade Prem for Prem is not the way to Glory!!!!!

                  • Dools says:

                    Whoops wrong "lids Do IT Buddy NIKE Godess of VICTORY SWishhhhhh

                    • throttlefinger says:

                      HAHAHA. What do you think about Prestia? With Gaz will never get hard tag. Could average 110+ for year.

                      Thoughts Keyboard?

                  • throttlefinger says:

                    Lids is gone, my friend. 1 week. I'll wait. 2? Not as inclined. Especially for an Achilles injury. That will linger and for his game will not help produce prem-level scores.

    • MightyDonsFC says:

      Had one bad game, would you still pull the pin if he averaged 76? Don't think so…

      • Beady Eye says:

        He's had two bad games and one where he got stitches in his face.

        Expectations for Caddy were much higher than a 76 average. Talk was he could put up premium scores at a discount price, and the fact is he hasn't come close.

        • MightyDonsFC says:

          I think expectations of him averaging anything over low 80's was ridiculous for a bloke with low possessions, d/e % and plays half the match as a forward

      • Gold Rush says:

        His Break Even implies that he is spinning in his tracks and not getting the midfield time that he got in the NAB when a few of the regular midfielders were rested. If the Cats get a few long term injuries to their regular mids I would have no problem getting him back in – but for now he's been thrown out to my SC scrap heap.

  21. InsideInfo says:

    Cloke carrying a bit of a niggle (not sure what), saw him at Olympic Park Medical Centre getting some scans (on his leg) so he's most likely carrying something or looking for an excuse.

  22. JOE says:

    Hi Guys What to do with matty leuenberger? I didnt expect his scores to be this low with trent west as a back up ruck, I can still see him finishing in the top 5 rucks?

    • MightyDonsFC says:

      Gonna hold for another week, take a mid 80 score hopefully, then trade to goldy/minson/jacobs

    • Swans2014 says:

      I don't see him averaging that low but I think he has to go. Mumford is the obvious choice but I definitely can't see him averaging that. He has played a ruckman who was only introduced to footy 5 years ago (pyke), a ruckman who has played 20 games (Hickey) and well then there is Fitzpatrick which no comment is needed. I do like his game style in tackling but he is playing Minson this weeks so that will be a test.

    • SCaddict says:

      Higgo also has him and is recommending to all Leuey owners to grin and bear it and hope he turns it around as per last Sunday's podcast. But the signs are worrying and the Lions draw doesn't get any easier until after their bye.

      If you were to look elsewhere Sauce Jacobs would be worth considering and $20K cheaper. The Crows are about to embark on a good run of games in which he should hopefully dominate. NicNat is another to look at but is yet to really get going and then there is the worry of the groin problems recurring.

      Mummy is flavor of the month and it will cost you a pretty penny for him now. He has his own injury skeletons in the closet so not sure I would shake up my team to get him in. The big fella is in ripping form though.

      I would give him one more week myself but another sub 85 score this weekend against Lobbe and I would probably move him on.

  23. cyril says:

    possibly why he couldn't get a kick in a horse fight?

  24. Jontyone says:

    Hey community great page!
    I am thinking of trading Walters and Deledio for Merrett and Selwood? I am currently coming 3rd in my work league and are looking for a point of difference. Walters is gone for the season so he has to go. I held onto Deledio last week to see if he was playing but apparently not. I know its only 1 week out but that is what they said last week and I don't think he will come straight back in and average 110. Selwood is in ripping form and we give me that 120+ I need. Merrett looks the good as well and I can see him averaging 85+. Any thoguhts? Cheers

    • MightyDonsFC says:

      Sounds good!

    • canman1306 says:

      Sensible Trading You have identified 2 problems and Fixed them with great options.

    • throttlefinger says:

      Very strong swaps, Jonty1. Have Lids and that type of injury will linger. Only two games so best rid of now. And Selwood is playing insanely well.

      Merrett is a sensible choice given his form and the way the Dons have been playing.

      Make it so!

    • Dools says:

      Sound Choices and given the injuries I would go the same Do It

  25. Derek says:

    Deledio is out this week

  26. Ollie says:

    what do i do with caddy??

    got a breakeven of 59 .
    hold or trade?

    • Swans2014 says:

      Depends. How much do you have in the bank? How many trades left? How are you going so far in sc

      • Ollie says:

        i got $636k with 25 trades (one already used this week) and am averaging 2,282 per week

        • MightyDonsFC says:

          Wow, upgrade him! Who else do you have in your forward line?

          • Ollie says:

            dusty, zorko, bruest, caddy, impey, ambrose, (rohan, JKH) will chuck danger in there next week

            • Gold Rush says:

              Good call Ollie, I would go the Danger also.

            • MightyDonsFC says:

              Defo Danger, maybe look at Rohan to Fasolo next week?

              • Gold Rush says:

                Sounds Good as Fas will be on the bubble next week so no rush, the flip side is that Dangers price will drop this week also, good problem to have…

            • sputnik says:

              danger may be out this week whcih means you should wait another week for further price drop- but the byes are close so id wait til round 9 to bring him him

        • Swans2014 says:

          Yeh trade. Get Harvey or Riedwoldt in

        • Josh says:

          Hold Caddy. So what hes keeping you back a few points at this stage…Why burn a trade on a guy that has a low breakeven and will only need a couple of good games to get him up and going. Scott has touted him as a real leader and has been ecstatic with the kid, he will come good and I'm hoping that all those who thought he was a burnman get 'burnt' within the next couple of weeks for getting rid of him.

  27. cyril says:

    I will be holding.

  28. Gold Rush says:

    Ollie, read my thread above pretty much covered it. In a nut shell if he gets more midfield time keep him – if not get rid of him – your call.

    • Ollie says:

      cheers gold rush, fasolo did look good on the weekend for that price, would bank $110k also which is handy

      • Gold Rush says:

        That's what I'm trying to do also, build the war chest – while at the same time stay in striking distance of Numero Uno.

  29. Give It A Go says:

    Have Hodge on the bench, is it worth holding even through he has a B/E of 158 and a drop in price of 32g, who would you trade or should I hold out?

  30. Pauly says:

    What's everyone's thoughts on J.Mcveigh , hes not hitting he numbers that I though he would . trade down or his he a season hold ?

    • Bob McBob says:

      Mcveigh is a hold for now

    • throttlefinger says:

      Hold, Pauly.

      Have him as well. Have faith in your prems. Not injured and the number not horrid. Just not up to expectation. Give him some time. As the Swans do better, so will McV's SC scores.

    • Derek says:

      Hold all year. Therefore you should not care if his price goes up or down

  31. Antonio says:

    Hi people,

    This is my first post here. I was wondering if you experts could help me out. I’m new too SuperCoach and joined a league with cash as a prize. I’ll tell you my team and maybe you blokes can let me know that I should do next! Cheers guys!

    Defence: Swallow, Bugg, Pittard, Webster, Mitchell, McDonald (Eme: Langdon, Georgiuo)

    Midfield: Watson, Murphy, Thomas, Polec, Liberatore, Cotchin, Beams, Ellis, (Eme: Michie, Dunstan)

    Ruck: Nic Nat, Sandilands (Eme: Currie, King)

    Forwards: Zorko, Danger, Higgins, Roughead, Caddy, Martin, (Eme: Ambrose, JKH)

    Money left: $11,600

    I know it’s not the best team but Any advice would be greatly appreciated!

    • canman1306 says:

      Very Good Team for First Year Player. Well done Mate

    • Gold Rush says:

      Step1 Thomas down to Kelly
      Step 2 Super Spud Pittard to a keeper (if the $'s allow) or take the punt on Jaensch

      • Gold Rush says:

        Watch Thomas though – they are playing Melb and could go ballistic – I still traded him out though.

    • SCaddict says:

      I like Gold Rush's proposed trades but I would prioritise offloading Michie myself. Has a broken jaw = supercoach deadwood and there are too many quality midfield cash cows to let your M10 sit idle for a month or longer.

      So I would go Pittard down to KK and upgrade Michie to Kelly.

      You can then potentially discard Daisy next week, for say a Matty Crouch, if he can't produce against the Deeplorables this weekend.

      • Captain joc says:

        Second that scaddict
        Very good side for your first year mate

      • GarglesnarfFC says:

        Ripping advice!

      • Mungos Men says:

        if you want to save more cash Nathan Gordon from Richmond looked good on the weekend. came on for vlastuin. 71 from 15 possies. however may get vested again…? (watch this space)

    • Derek says:

      No Ablett. After the hawks, look who the suns play

    • Starting Team looks pretty awesome if you ask me. I could of swore I seen it somewhere else before.

      Let me guess, you traded Rockliff to Watson after round 1, and Wright to Zorko after round 2??

  32. Matt says:

    Was planning on not making any trades this week, but with the Patty Ambrose injury I may have to change that strategy. Current FWD rookies are Ambrose, Impey & JKH, which leaves me with the following options:

    1. Keep Ambrose and play Impey on the field for a few weeks
    2. Downgrade someone like Dale Thomas and upgrade Ambrose to a FWD mid-pricer.
    3. Straight swap to another rookie (max $137k). My DPP's allow me to trade him to either a DEF, FWD or MID rookie by the way.

    I don't like any of these options, but thats what I'm stuck with. Leaning towards Option 1.

    Thoughts community?

    • Gold Rush says:

      Option 1 might be the go, I've got JKH in my team also (who hasn't), the only Rookie since I've been playing this game that has gone down in price – that's LEGEND status. Hopefully he gets free of the vest and gives us something soon.

    • Dools says:

      Definite Option 1 Matt, You have thought it through and I think you have come to the correct conclusion. Hold onto Trades, Ambrose will be back later and Impey while not ideal cover is still generating coin and scoring and there really is no Fwd. W/rookies to replace at the moment

    • Josh says:

      Run with Impey, if he can get just a few more kicks he could score a 60 or 70. He is a good user of the footy and may go forward this week with no wingard. Used to be his preferred position.

  33. Michael says:

    Interesting but potentially useless fact: 12 out of the top 30 SC priced forwards (40%!) are unavailable due to injury this week! Compare that to mids (4 out of 30 + 1 suspension), defs (6 out of 30), rucks (8 out of 30)

  34. MightyDonsFC says:

    G'day community, just wanted some feedback on my team

    Backs: Bartel Swallow Jaensch Langdon Laidler webster (clurey, cutler)

    Mids: Pendles Libba Rocky Murph Shuey Beams Polec Dunstan (crouch, Michie)

    Ruck: Berger Sandi (derickx, currie)

    Forwards: danger Dusty Gray Titchell merrett impey (mcdonut, JKH)

    Thinking of Berger to jacobs and mcdonut to Fasolo next week, however also feel back line is a bit weak

    • MightyDonsFC says:

      Btw have 70k and 26 trades left, used trades for this week

      • Gold Rush says:

        That Clurey is giving me probs also, did not realise that he was Key Position rookie until the after the comp started, bad research on my behalf. Gaz I take it your waiting for the bye.
        Laidler / Webster to McDonald would of been good but he is about to jump another $54K.
        Ball tearer of a midfield your got there for this point in time, as you would know Michie's gone for a while but you've got him covered.
        Berger to Jacobs sounds good as he is sole rucking like Mumford.
        McDonut is playing well in the two's and could come into contention soon, JKH is my problem also. Fas is on the bubble after this week.

    • Derek says:

      Getting Gaz next week must be tempting. After the Hawks the SUNS have a dream run

      • MightyDonsFC says:

        Gonna take some risks towards bye rounds, 5 fallen premiums I'm looking at

  35. General McArthur says:

    mids shone last week despite putting Dunstan on bench
    – Ablett Rocky Libba Beams Macrae Shiels Tyson Polec emg Dunstan Ellis.
    As Kelly on big bubble…… I've gone Shiels to Kelly and Rohan to Merrett
    Feel like Kelly is gold so don't want to miss him. If not Shiels (100,50,90) which is still good, then who pls community?….waiting on fitness of beams despite his 3×100 scores

    • Gold Rush says:

      Reckon you've nailed it.

    • Derek says:

      I worry about having GWS rookies that they will be rested just when you need them

      • Josh says:

        You only need Kelly to play for another month until his bye, then ship him off and roll in the $$$$… Dom Tyson will be one of the last cash cows out of my team merely due to the fact that he is scoring consistently so you can have confidence in running him on the field all the time. Kelly is undoubtedly going to make cash I had to get rid of Lewis Taylor to bring him in but believe that the pairs price differential come culling time will be huge. The bigger and fatter the cash cows the better.

  36. throttlefinger says:

    Top notch Barron. Leaning Pendles VC and Smurph C.

  37. thewoodsman says:

    Nice one Baron,
    going Pendles into Gazza for this week.. Still umming and ahhing about making a trade this week. Just one Caddy to Roughie or ride the storm and wait a week till Roughie possibly drops to 500k.

  38. Hotplates says:

    Hey guys – newish player here looking for advice.

    DEF: Swallow, McVeigh, Suckling, McDonald, S.Mitchell, KK, (Langdon, Langford)
    MID: Ablett, Pendles, Beams, Cotchin, Tyson, Dunstan, Polec, Rockliff (X.Ellis, L.Taylor)
    RUC: Sandi, Pyke (Currie, King)
    FWD: Zorko, D.Martin, Danger, T.Mitchell, Higgins, Impey (Ambrose, JKH)

    Unsure whether to sit tight and hold trades or to go T.Mitch > Merrett & Pyke > Mumford before they both head up too far.

    Only have $600 in bank so need the downgrade of T.Mitchell to pay for Mummy.

    • Hotplates says:

      Also wondering if worth getting J.Kelly & maybe moving L. Taylor fwd?

    • JJM says:

      Nice looking side you have there Hotplates. But why would you want to trade Titch just to get Mummy. I'd hold on to Pyke and Titch downgrade Suckling to McD and upgrade JHK to Merrett or you can move Taylor up fwd and get Kelly would be the better option. CASH COWS all around.

      • JJM says:

        Ooops didn't see you have McD there already
        Suckling >> Griffiths
        JHK >> Kelly via Taylor moving Fwd.

      • Hotplates says:

        Thanks JJM, Have McD already though. Feel like Suckling can still make money anyway. Only guys I really want to get rid of are JKH – but have such little cash can't get anyone in for him.

        Maybe am better off sitting on trades anyway, let the rookies appreciate a little more before doing anything.

    • Derek says:

      Nice team. Sideways trades are a waste. You need to think that every trade you make will get you a premium keeper. I don't believe either Mummy or Merrett are premium keepers.

      Just be patient and wait for your cash cows to fatten. You seem to have a good crop.

      make do with the forwards you have and hopefully Ambrose, Impey and JKH will get you a few points. a lot of people in same position and many will burn trades now to fix and make a few points, but at the end of the year they will be wanting those trades back.

    • Dools says:

      G'day Hotplates,
      Nice team all playing with good cover on the pine NIL Trades mate. Mitchell had a poor game last week It does not constitute a Trend Stick with him, Never mind Mummy's Score his ship for you has sailed. Hold Trades

  39. Cam says:

    This whole Enright thing is frustrating me… I'm looking at flipping him to Thumper which would allow me to turn Daisy into Yabblet. Burns two trades which frustrates me but I figure I'm swapping a non-keeper in Daisy for one with a higher profit margin (Thumper) and trading a premium in Enright for a Super-Elite in Gary. Gives me the Pendles/Ablett captain options through loophole.

    The alternatives are to turn Enright into Hanley or to simply not trade at all. I'm planning on bringing in Fyfe next week and this Gaz trade makes that a little harder but still doable, but considering I've pretty much got every rookie worth having through the mids and defense (dunstan, polec, tyson, aish, ellis, mcdonald, langdon, langford, georgiou) I'm set to make some cash anyway and with Caddy at F6 my FWD line is pretty close to set. Only have two mid pricers in Caddy and Thomas and they're not doing much for me so working towards full guns'n'rookies.


    • Cozza says:

      I would hold Enright, unless word comes out that he is still out for a couple of weeks. He may have this week off, but I would expect him back the following week at least – especially when the cats said last week the ankle was not serious. If you can survive another week with Enright on the bench, I would suggest doing that rather than wasting a trade from one premo to another.

    • Josh says:

      Guns and rookies are defiantly the way to go

  40. Cyril says:

    Enright hasn’t been ruled out from playing this week yet has he?

    • Cam says:

      No, he hasnt been ruled out but Chris Scott has said he's no certainty to play this week. He was named last week and was a late withdrawal and seeing as he is now 32 I have a bad feeling that this injury will have groundhog day written all over it or at least come back to haunt him (and me) during the season.

  41. Rickshaw says:

    I'm thinking Burger to Grundy, Rohan to Merrett?

  42. steve says:

    $470 to spend on a replacement for caddy. Zorko? Breust? Parker? Franklin, AN Other? what would you do, fwds are a bit light with danger – martin – wright – gunstan?

  43. PAOLO says:

    I HAVE Dayne swan, and 56K in the bank, do I trade him or persist and who would you recommend,
    I have libba, ablett and beams as premium mids
    thanks guys

    • Swans2014 says:

      He has a breakeven of 179 in which he is very unlikely to get. He his averaging 74 and is either out of form or injured. He has to go this round. I would reccomend one of Watson or Rocklif. If you are looking for a pod go for one of Ward or Treloar

    • Derek says:

      I didn't see Swan's form being this bad. He has been a great player and unless he is injured I would stay with him.

      I prefer Pendlebury over swan and was worried about Collingwoods first 7 weeks were tough, FRE, SWANS, CATS, TIGERS, NORTH, ESS, CARL. Swan's scored could be a reflection of who Collingwood have played (and still to play).

      After the bye, Collingwood have ADE, WCE (H), SAINTS, MELB, DOGS

      If Swannie is any decent form after the bye, you will want to have him.

    • SCaddict says:

      A lot of mixed opinions and I'm not completely of one mind on this one either.

      Looks way off his best elite form. Who knows how quickly he can turn it around or whether he really is struggling with a niggle despite the denials. But maybe he can answer his critics tomorrow night.

      It's a tough call but I would probably jump off before he leaks any more cash. Sub $500K is definitely on the cards now which was perhaps inconceivable before the season got underway.

  44. Beady Eye says:

    Trading out a dud mid-pricer in Caddy for one of Rioli or Hanley, to improve either my back or forward line.

    Defence is Mitchell, McVeigh, Enright, Swallow, Thumper, McDonald, Langdon and Georgiou.
    Forwards are Danger, Rough, Wingard, Zorko, Mitchell, Taylor, Merrett and JKH.

    Any thoughts from the community?

    • Nick14 says:

      How Bad is your midfield?

      • Captain joc says:

        If it was just a simple Hanley vs rioli I would go Hanley but with wingard out and how bad the forwards are this year I’d go rioli plus your back line looks good as

      • Beady Eye says:

        Given the lack of reliable rookies elsewhere, I'm trying something different this year and going heavy on rookies in midfield in order to bulk up my other lines first.

        Currently running with three premiums (Pendles, Beams and Fyfe), one mid-pricer soon to be gone (Caddy) and the rest rookies (Tyson, Kelly, Polec, Dunstan, Ellis, Crouch).

        Of course I can always beef that up by switching around a Swallow/Mitchell/Wingard type if need be.

    • Alex says:

      Rioli is a gun, but i think Hanley will pull out more consistent.

    • Sarah says:

      I'd go for boosting the forward line as Wingard is set to miss this week and you don't want to have two forward rookies on the field.

      • Beady Eye says:

        That's the way I'm now leaning… was all set to bring in Hanley and now I'm reconsidering.

        On the other hand, Danger and Mitchell have injury doubts over them, so maybe I'll just say screw it and give up on the forward line this week 🙂

  45. Cyril says:

    Who is going to be game enough to pick up Ryan griffin after his big price drop?

    • BCHawks says:

      I am. He is a proven premium and will get back to his best this year.

      • Beady Eye says:

        Likewise, as soon as he hits rock bottom and/or shows a hint of form, he's straight in.

      • Gold Rush says:

        When his form turns no probs – same with Swan and to a lesser degree Petrie & Cloke,

    • Derek says:

      I will. he will be cheap. Will have at least two good weeks before his price moves back up, so we should see the bottom of the graph easy enough

  46. Danny says:

    Hey Guys,
    Over the past 2 weeks I have read near on every post. I value som much of the input from the regular community. I don't offer any advice as I don't have the expertise, but, hopefully in the future this can change. Please give me your expert opinions on where my team is at and where to go from here.

    Hanley , McVeigh, Suckiling, Langdon
    Enright S,Mitchell L.McDonald Georgiou

    Gaz, Watson, D.Beams, Cotchin Daisy
    Tyson, Dunston, Polec X.Ellis Aish

    Sandi Pyke Thurlow King

    Zorko, Dusty, Danger L,Taylor
    Caddy, Impey Fasalo JKH

    26 trades left….(used 1 this week, rohan for fasalo)
    $58,200 in bank
    obviously just a league win

    Cheers guys

    • Captain joc says:

      I think just hold your trades and let your cows fatten most your side is good

    • Josh says:

      I would think about getting rid of daisy for josh Kelly. up to you though.

    • Nick14 says:

      Nice team!
      Very strong all round. I would keep Enright on bench even if he is named as you seem to have pretty good cover in Langdon/Georgiou. I would be looking to get rid of Thomas and Caddy in the next few weeks. I would be looking to get in either Macrae or Kelly for Thomas. As for Caddy you could get Merrett or if you get Kelly for Thomas you can get Rioli/Parker or anyone around that price

    • Danny says:

      Thanks everyone…I'm addicted to trading, would love to get rid of daisy for kelly or even KK, but I know the value of trades and am possibly thinking of waiting one week

      • Gold Rush says:

        If your playing for league, keep the trades and smash em pre / post round 9 then settle and access how you and your competitors are travelling. If your playing for the Title of SC Champ 2014 – you need to get aggressive a tad earlier.

    • Derek says:

      Hi Danny, nice team, you must have been reading and taking good notes.
      DEF is fantastic. Nothing to change.
      MIDS looks like a lot of others. No major concerns, you have plenty of Cash Cows and some good Premiums. Hold Daisey until you can trade straight to a premium.
      RUCK nothing wrong, two main men for their teams, exactly what you want.
      FWD if Rohan is named on field tonight, I would seriously consider reversing your trade and keeping Rohan. he can still be a cash cow he just got a knock in round 2 that slowed his score plus gave him the vest for R3. I still think he is in Swans best 22.

      • Danny says:

        Thanks Derek,
        Well worth considering and although I'm a trade slut, I really want to win my league. Saving trades seems to be the message so I think you've got my vote

      • GarglesnarfFC says:

        Great advice Derek, solid team.

        Rohan for Fasolo is fine, he's on an extended bench so dump him.

    • The Ranger says:

      Danny, I'm no expert but that looks like a pretty good team to me mate.
      Hold fire. Sit tight. Wait for ya bank balance to grow. Do nothing.
      I've been doing this for four years now and every year so far I've traded too often too early.

  47. Captain joc says:

    What to do with wingard

    Got 125k in the bank ranked in the top 300 and want to stay in the top and I reckon if I field one of the rookies I could lose to much points

    My side is:

    Defs: Swallow, Mitchell, Hanley, Jaensch, McDonald, Langdon (Langford, Georgiou)

    Mids: Pendlebury, Ablett, Beams, Libbatore, Tyson, M.Thomas, Polec, Dunstan (Ellis, Aish)

    Rucks: Sandilands, Pyke ( Currie, King)

    Fwds: Dangerfield, Martin, Wingard, Mitchell, Caddy, Higgins ( Taylor, JKH)

    I was thinking of doing wingard and caddy to rioli and zorko

    • Beady Eye says:

      The obvious one is a straight swap to Riewoldt.

    • MightyDonsFC says:

      If you upgrade caddy to gray/merrett (any other forward you like) and field Taylor, you will only lose around 20 points and save a trade (if you intent to bring Wingard back in).

    • Derek says:

      if you are in top 300 you trade your ass off!

    • Dools says:

      Wingard to Zorko makes sense Hold the Caddy trade you made the top 300 with him and he is playing so hold that trade ( also gives a tell on other competitors if they have sold him on wait 1 week mate. My 2 cents sorry Do what you do Top 300 envious Well done.

      • Captain joc says:

        Yeah I’ve thought about keeping caddy but I think I’m deffaintly reckon I’ll move wingard on I won’t be bringing wingard back in I like your points on caddy

    • Michael says:

      Get Luke Bruest, much more consistent and not injury prone! BREUST!!

      • Captain joc says:

        More consistent? His never averaged over 90

        • The Filth says:

          True – but averaged over 80 past two seasons including six scores over a ton last year.
          Big diiference with no Buddy at the Hawks – more opportunity for Breust. Scoring well in the best team in the comp.

  48. sputnik says:

    Better off winning the last 12 games straight in your leagues than the first 12 games straight!!

  49. jim says:

    is McVeigh to ablett and enright to jaensch are good trades or too risky?

    • Gold Rush says:

      jaensch still not sure about, like to see how he handles a bit more attention – then again he may be a great trade. Time will tell

    • canman1306 says:

      Tough 1.
      Plenty of arguments for each trade.
      Getting ablett in is Jaensch gonna keep firing. Is it worth trading 2 premos out?
      Is Enrights Injury gonna Linger.
      We don't know yet?
      If you had an original plan to get Ablett in stick to it.
      Go with you gut!
      Good Luck Mate

    • SCaddict says:

      Reckon it's worth moving heaven and earth to get Gaz in NOW! but that's just my opinion. Historically has produced huge scores against the Hawks and he's already in supreme form again.

      Only has a tiny BE of 90 by his standards so should shoot up in price again after his round. That 182 will still be in his next two price adjustments. Clearly head and shoulders the best Supercoach stud in the league.

      • Derek says:

        Ablett scores well against hawks and the SUNS next 7 games are beautiful!

        • Captain joc says:

          We’ll mcveigh and enright will probably be consistent 80-100 scorers Ablett we’ll we all know how good he scores and jaensch is worth the punt has a great draw until his bye saints gws bulldogs and demons not sure what order tho but also your gonna put the captaincy on Ablett a fair bit I’m guessing aswell so I reckon you should do it all in all if jaensch spuds it up his only gonna need a small amount of cash to upgrade to premium as he is at 364k and projected to rise by 48k and break even in the negatives

  50. Bob McBob says:

    McVeigh, Swallow, Mitchell, Pittard, McDonald, Langdon (Georgiou, Langford)

    Ablett, Pendlebury, Liberatore, Beams, Macrae, Dunstan, Polec, Ellis (Shuey, M.Crouch)

    Mumford, Sandilands (Thurlow, King)

    Dangerfield, Martin, T. Mitchell, J.Merrett (was Rohan), Caddy, Impey (JKH, Mcdonough)

    First trade this week was Rohan to Merrett.
    Was thinking to trade Pittard out. Going towards Ben Griffens, but I'm not confident that he will score well against Collingwood this week, while Pittard has Brisbane.

    Wouldn't mind some opinions/Suggestions

  51. Michael says:

    Hey guys, what do you all think is the best way to get Josh Caddy out of my side and Luke Breust into it? I have 91,700 in the kitty.

    Def: Swallow, McVeigh, K Simpson, Mitchell, McDonald, Koladjashnij (Langdon, Langford)

    Mid: Ablett, Selwood, Liberatore, Beams, Cotchin, Tyson, Polec, Ellis (Dunstan, Cunningham) *I know, I had Dunstan on the bench.*

    Ruck: Hickey, Sandilands (Derickx, Currie)

    Forward: Dangefield, Martin, T Mitchell, Caddy, Higgins, L Taylor. (Impey, JKH)

    I was thinking of making Cunningham – Crouch and then making caddy – Breust. Otherwise I’m pretty tempted to make Mcveigh one of Malceski, Johnson, Grimes or Jaensch as a POD, and I hate McVeigh.

    Thanks all!

  52. Presty says:

    i need help with my fwd line guys desperately

    I have

    danger, martin, crameri, Higgins, t. lewis, kennedy -harris, gary rohan and Lincoln McCarthy.
    with 316,800 in the bank
    im thinking get rid of McCarthy and rohan which gives me 616,700

    but I have no idea who to buy ??? I want someone to keep for season and a rookie.

    any ideas greatly appreciated

    • Guest says:

      zorko could be a good trade and a keeper for the season. He may be a guy to look at

    • Wattsieesq says:

      There are no real rookie forwards so no point trading both Rohan and McCarthy. Rohan is playing and has a BE around his average so probably best to upgrade McCarthy. You can turn McCarthy into a hand player when you have $430k to spend.

    • Avzmo says:

      Your keepers at the moment in that forward line are Danger, Martin and Higgins. Whatever reason you went with Crameri at the start of the season has to stick now so your really looking at the other options. Lewis Taylor is a good sub if you don't have any other options, so I would think get rid of Rohan and McCarthy, neither Rohan or JKH you want the points for, but you can get more cash for trading out Rohan.

      With that money you could afford a premo and another rookie, but since rookies aren't polling that well up forward I would look to two mid pricers. However there aren't great mid priced options up forward at the moment besides Jackson Merrett who has changed roles and looks like a breakout candidate who could fire this year.

      You may need to get some more cash from another spot next week to trade in someone better into your forward line because other then Merrett, Patton looks like the best option in your price range, and I probably wouldn't go there.

      Jackson Merrett is great value at the moment as it looks like his role has changed and will get a lot more of the ball.

      • Presty says:

        cheers boys appreciate it
        do you think McCarthy for fasolo is a wasted trade?

  53. damian says:

    hi guys what do you think of team
    DEF Swallow,McVeigh,Hanley,Jaensch,McDonld,Langford.(Georgiou,Laidler)

    Mids Ablett, Liberatore, Beams,Thomas.D,Tyson, Polec,Thomas,M,Dunstan(Ellis,Aish)

    Ruck Sandilands , McEvoy(currie,Thurlow)

    Forward Martin,Dangerfield,Pavlich,Higgins,Paker,Rohan(Impey,Taylor)
    $598.600 in the bank
    can you help with my team

    • Gold Rush says:

      Is that 586K in the bank?

    • Avzmo says:

      I disagree with Gold Rush here, Rohan should probably go but its your midfield that needs another premo, you are too cash cow heavy. Your essentially playing three premos in the midfield where that should be 4 minimum, possibly 5. Possible trades could be Daisy –> premo, Rohan –> Ambrose?

      • Captain joc says:

        I disagree avzmo as midfield is where the best rookies are so he should let them fatten and focus on the fwd line
        And why would you trade Rohan to Ambrose when Ambrose is injured and most likely won’t get back in the side coz by that time bell chamber will be close to being back

    • GarglesnarfFC says:

      Leave Rohan on the bench, stick Taylor on the ground. McEvoy (out again) to Mummy or Minson whose BE is now 121, Curries 40 odd is not a good option. Then grab a non round 8 premium like Ward or Murphy or Rockliffe. Better points return, and you have plenty of cows already.

  54. Guest says:

    Is Treloar a must have? Thoughts community

    • Danners16 says:

      No, he has got a 150 a 80 and a 170, not consistent, I would definitely have Coniglio instead, nearly $100000 cheaper

    • Fourbells says:

      Not sure about a must have, but I am looking at him for my final M6. Happy to take the odd 150

    • Avzmo says:

      A must have definetely not, hes a pretty good POD but you generally want consistent scorers, although I know a lot of people have LIbba in their teams and he is similar. If your looking for a good POD hes an option, but I would prefer to stick with safer options. Possibly a Prestia if you can absorb another round 8 bye, or maybe Dal Santo if your after consistency?

    • WombatsFC says:

      I'm unsure but I reckon that I will have made up my mind by the start or end of the byes.
      Certainly some impressive scores this year and last year and the blokes a fair dinkum hard nut footballer on top of having silky skills and great 'footy-brain'. If he's not a top 10 mid this year he will be next year.

  55. Billy says:

    A few good new rookies have been named. Will be interesting in a couple or rounds time whether we trade them in or not.

  56. Liam says:

    KK or Laidler?

    • MightyDonsFC says:


    • Avzmo says:

      I choose KK because his job security is better, for someone with 2 games under his belt he has done okay but will only get better, with a rising team he's gonna be around good players which should make him better as well.

    • WombatsFC says:


  57. cyril says:

    What to do…..

    Have McEvoy who is not named again with only Derrickx for cover on an extended bench…. Time to get rid of Mcevoy or give him another week and hope Derrickx gets a game and gives me a 50 odd?

    Is it worth wasting another trade to get Kelly in for Michie who is last on my bench? I've already got Langford, McDonald, Georgio, M.Thomas, Tyson, Dunston, Ellis, Polec, Rohan, Ambrose, JHK as my cash cows. Thanks in advance

  58. Shinboner says:

    Was going to say farewell to Nick Robertson for Matty Crouch. Stoked I don't have to waste a trade on that now.

    • MightyDonsFC says:

      I'd still get Marty crouch, expect him to average 75-80 maybe even more

  59. Dan says:

    Need some help community, I currently have Rohan and Caddy on field and I'm very tempted to burn two trades this week getting rid of them. Not sure whether to go Chapman and Impey (or another rookie?) or Fasolo and Merrett? Other alternative is to hold Caddy and get rid of just Rohan.

    • Dools says:

      Hi Dan …Chappy is not playing HOLD and Impey is limping along at 40's not worth wasted trades mate

      • Dan says:

        Thanks for the advice Dools, are you sure Chappy is not playing, on both the AFL website and Essendon website he's listed in their starting 22, and I think Rohan will only be listed as an emergency this week, regardless I can't someone who is going down in price and pumping out 20s. What are your thoughts?

        • Derek says:

          Chappy is listed, but I would bet be won’t be on the plane. I have him and want him to play

    • Fourbells says:

      Hi Dan, Do you have enough cash in the bank to trade Rohan to Merrett?
      As Mad Mick said, hold Caddy

    • Liam says:

      Hi Dan,
      Im holding onto Caddy for another week or two as Petrie and Cloke are looking for further fall in price with breakevens of 184 and 165! Maybe these two aren't the greatest options but Caddy is at that awkward price that maybe you could take a risk on a fallen premium in a couple of weeks time if you have the cash. Caddy's breakeven for this week is 74 which is slightly above his average but wouldn't effect his price too much.

      As for Rohan i've gone a straight swap for Fasolo

  60. dannyyboyy says:

    forward line is where my dramas lie, i bought in ambrose for kennedy-harris last week and copped rohans 21. i have impey, rohan, ambrose and mcdonogh so i need to trade as i see it. with 85k in the bank im thinkin it needs to be rohan, and with his B/E sitting at 40, he aint goin up anytime soon.

    so i believe my options are this.

    rohan to lewis taylor.
    taylor has a B/E of -33 so will rise but only has an ave of 38, so it will be a slow rise. however he seems to have JS. 137k
    or rohan to fasolo.
    only played 1 game so far but 77 last week and he could do anything points wise. 213k.

    does anyone know of a cheap forward that i might have missed? would love some feedback community. i would have thought there would have been more people keen to dump rohan this week.

    • Nick14 says:

      Not many forwards that you could really get. Colledge scored 47 so keep an eye on him as well as Dean Towers who is a mid/fwd who is on the swans extended bench

    • Derek says:

      Keep Rohan. He can still be a cash cow. R1 he was rusty, R2 he took a knock to his leg that affected his score and gave him the vest for R3.

      He was green on jocks cheat sheet, is in swans best 22, is cheap and only has upside

  61. Jackscoach says:

    Hey community,
    I have 667k to get a midfielder and need some recommendations on who to get?

    • MightyDonsFC says:

      Selwood, Libba, rocky, Watson, prestia or wait a week and get fyfe

  62. cyril says:

    Depends on who you already have.

  63. Avzmo says:

    Anyone heard anything about the Dahlhaus injury, he wasn't on any injury lists and all of a sudden hes out of the side this weekend with a calf injury? I might trade him out if it looks long term, but no idea if its just a rest week then back in next week?

  64. WombatsFC says:

    Shane Crawford reckons that Pendlebury & Beams are very doubtful starters this week.
    Pendle spent most of the week in a moonboot and Beams has missed cantact sessions due to an ankle problem.

    Causes me no problems due to having 2 high scoring rookies on the bench but I wouldn't be trading either of them in this week.

    • throttlefinger says:

      My lord, I hope that is not true about either.

      But you'd think, like Lids, they would've left him off the 22. At least one of them. Smells fishy…

    • Captain joc says:

      Supposedly pendles was in a moon boot after the Sydney game aswell and he still played the next game if you can take a positive from that

  65. Mitch says:

    Hey community,
    Looking to downgrade two this week
    Looking at Michie out but throwing up between Buckley, Crouch on the bubble this week or go for Gordon
    The other is Gary Rohan down for Ambrose, I do understand that he is out for a couple of weeks but rohan looks set to drop this week and is frustrating the hell out of me
    Cheers guys!

    • Dools says:

      Hi MitchI get your pain ….Michie to Crouch I get and I endorse but trading for a cash gain in to a non playing player is ridiculous Not only will you wait on a cash gain but you will end up trading again to fix your Problem that by these trades has not addressed the issues in your team…..Stop , Think., Readdress your floor plan mate Rohan is a player and yes I get it he is scoring low (but; putting points on the board) but to trade him for someone who is cheaper and not playing is …..WTF????

  66. GarglesnarfFC says:

    Rohan to Ambrose is just a waste of a trade. Taylor or Colledge or another warm body is better than bringing in an injured player.

  67. Brett says:

    I have 481k to get a forward premium. What's everyone's suggestions? I'd like Luke Parker but I already have Tom Mitchell so not too keen on having both of them. thanks guys

  68. Joel says:

    Hey guys.

    Just wondering this I have michie on bench who is out for a month and he will be my only non scoring player this week.

    So do I trade him straight out for Kelly or hold and use as loophole.

  69. Josh says:

    Pretty happy at the moment and probably won't trade his week but……in an idle moment, entertained (briefly) Downgrade Webster to KK ?? and the feared sideways Caddy to J Merrett. mad right?

  70. Vasco says:

    Is it worth burning a trade from Rohan to L.Taylor? (Got Rohan as my F7)

  71. Billy says:

    Hey guys just wondering if I should trade out JKH for Lewis Taylor or should I just save the trade?

  72. The Ranger says:

    Evening Community, what do we know about Sam Lloyd – debutant at Richmond?
    What's his job security like if he plays well? Has he gone above McDonough?

  73. Aaron says:

    Evening all, what do you guys think the chances are of pendles or beams being lat outs tomorrow night?

  74. Ethan says:

    Which two players to put on the field?
    Webster, L.McDonald or Langdon

  75. sputnik says:

    Whos gonna win in the mother and son battle this week? Mummy or minson?

  76. Westy says:

    Do we know what the deal is with Dahlhaus?

  77. Michael says:

    I'm gonna try something different with the C this week.
    Will put VC on GAJ, C on Danger – playing Saints so will hopefully go berserk!
    Loophole C with Ambrose
    If GAJ scores 120+ then I'll put C on Ambrose, if under 120 I'll take the risk that Danger can go big!

  78. steve says:

    before i tie myself up in knots – i can swing rohan to fasola and caddy upgrade to rockliffe. would leave an empty warchest, but mids are then almost complete……….or should i go the obvious route – rohan to fasola and caddy to merret or parker or breust or rioli……………cheers boys

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