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PODCAST: The Community Speaks. Round 3

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Supercoach 2014 preseason podcast

History tonight community!

Tonight we bring you for the very first time a second weekly podcast. This new Thursday night format is all about you lot – the community.

Enjoy the pre round show – we have had a ripping reaction from the community and many wisdoms sent in on the speakpipe.

We’re keen as mustard to hear your thoughts on the show – and to hear YOUR WISDOMS next week for our Thursday night show!

See you on the site and for the Sunday night show – Let’s get stuck in!


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Osh

Is it worth trading out Enright for swallow I've got 120k in the bank and my other trade is Zorko in for franklin

@johnson_tragic

Stick by enright unless that he is a late withdrawal.

Danners16

If the rest of your team is alright

Lewis

Thoughts on Higgins to Ambrose & Suckling to Swallow? thanks guys

Ocker

Go for it mate I would.

Cheers.

Daniel

Pull the trigger on that one immediately! Altho I'm sticking with Suckers, Swallow is almost a must have!

Danners16

Sounds good

Boydo

Michie to M Thomas or MWright to Zorko

Jye

Rate that

throttlefinger

To Zorko. Reason being, he'll stick in your lineup longer and hold value longer. Thomas could or could not be a bolter. His price makes it harder to make trades. Zorko has an extremely low BE for a $400K+ player. Easier to move if shitte hits da fan.

Rocksta

I agree Throttle.
Zorko will reach well over $500k before dropping even if his form goes South. Then if need be, you'll be able to corrective trade him into just about anybody.
Great hearing you on the Podcast also, and putting a voice to the posts.
Best of luck

throttlefinger

Thanks Rocksta! Yeah, that's my 4am voice! Can't wait to hear the rest of your voices on upcoming episodes.

How's your trades looking this week? Good luck to you as well, sir.

Rocksta

I went Higgins to Ambrose and Caddy to Zorko.

Wanted to Go Higgins to Fasolo and Caddy to Zorks but am about $6K short.
The Pies have been playing Fasolo on the Half back flank in the reserves and he's looked great. He is also getting fitter and looks bigger/ stronger than in previous years. He's a talented player and ill be looking at him when he's on the Bubble. Interestingly, he's been named on the wing.

throttlefinger

I'm giving Higgins another week. If nothing over 80 and Fasolo does well, may do the switch then. May do it regardless. Don't like his form. Kick myself for choosing him or his teammate Hunter…was a fav in all my pre-season teams AND had the money to get him (i.e. me=fool!)

Higgins is not losing money. And I would venture a guess he's not doing too much worse than most team's F6 (those who don't have Caddy or Hunter). What a freakin headache.

Rocksta

Yea,
May still press the 'Reverse Trades' button between now and the start of tomorrow's game.
I don't like Caddy, and am kicking myself for getting sucked into starting with him.
I think Higgins may yet improve but really want to facilitate the Caddy to Zorko trade.
When Zorks tore it up 2 years ago, he was a tackling and running machine. That disappeared last year.
But it's well and truly back and as such I'm seeing F4 Keeper.
Anyhow, ill play around with the team more tomorrow.

throttlefinger

Good luck, my man. Toss Caddy for Zorko. Sounds like it will make you feel better.

Ocker

One of my trades is possibly going to be Franklin to Zorko.
I don't really like to trade him because I may have to get him back, But I might not because we only have 6 forwards and I don't think Buddy will be one of those.
Thoughts mate

Cheers.

throttlefinger

Hey Ocker. Whew. That's a tough one.

Let's look what you're getting with Zorko: A surging DPP whose value is going way up while his BE will be wildly low for many rounds. In other words, lot to gain, not much to lose.

Buddy on the other hand: 138 BE, will lose up to $33K and, more importantly, is on a struggling Swans team trying to make it work. Could break out a great score but with the Swans form, don't know how consistent that will be. Lot to lose, need lots o' luck for significant gains.

In my mind there's nothing wrong with ditching a player if he's playing below form and losing money to bring him back later when he's on the upswing. Imagine you get Zorko without losing $40K+ from keeping Buddy THEN are able to bring Buddy back when he bottoms out and his form returns. To me, that's just strong trading.

Well, that' s my 2 cents, Ocker. Hope it helps.

Ocker

Done deal mate will do because I would not even be sure that Franklin will be worth putting back in the team either.
I have Buddy at 158 BE, The BE formula changes after round 5 or has in the past pretty sure mine are right.

Are you sticking with the trades you decided the other day?

Great to hear you on the speak pipe, Bad luck with Deledio's ankle.

Cheers.

throttlefinger

Well, I'm trying to stay positive about Lids. Only a week. Good news was Matty C was included. Had him as my M10. No vest may roll dice and put him in.

Yep. Mummy and Zorko in. Ryder and Wright out. Like your Buddy move, just makes too much sense.

Look forward to hearing your voice on the speakie soon too, Ocker.

Ocker

When I can afford one of those microphone things no problem I will be there, Just trying to get involved and help the community.
Don't normally ask questions. Buddy dumb move in the first place.

throttlefinger

Not dumb move. Risky.

Here's a dumb move: putting Higgins as your F6 when you have enough cash to put L. Hunter…who you had as your F6 ALL preseason and team structures.

Ocker

I had Hunter too and fell for the Caddy at last moment.
Just writing a post thanking Jock and the team be up in a moment.
My grammar is not that good hope it reads okay.

Cheers buddy.

throttlefinger

Sure it will be top notch and appreciated by the boys no matter the grammar. From the heart matters more than by the book.

Ocker

You are also a man of that bloody word you called me the other day.
But don't use words like that I had to google a bloody dictionary. Ha Ha.

Cheers

throttlefinger

HAHAHAHA. You got it, Ocker.

Ocker

I would trade Caddy to Zorko but don't have the cash so I am thinking Buddy to Zorko.
Thoughts?

Cheers.

Rocksta

Tough one Ocker.
I think Buddy will be better when Tippett is back as he may be able to play further up the ground.
I'd look elsewhere to facilitate that trade if you can.
If you can't, why not. I don't like starting with key forwards but they are great to bring in later in the season as they are form players and you can bring in the form player.

Ocker

Thanks Mate but buddy was a bad move to start the year with, But I could afford him so I put him in. (Should have gone Dahlhouse or Zorko to start with)

Buddy is going.
Cheers

Daniel

I think we are judging Buddy based on Sydneys form. Great team that when eventually fire, Buddy could be the beneficiary.

Daniel

Higgins to Fasolo could be just getting rid of one problem for another.

mightymicks

I love this new podcast on a Thursday night, brilliant. I've got a tough decision to make, my m8 is Dunstan with m10 crouch, I was thing crouch to Tyson but with crouch named should I hold, or get Tyson in, thoughts guys?

Bailey

I’d go with Tyson because I think he simply is too good to go without unless you have other priorities this week. And there is still a big chance that matty crouch will be named as sub.

Danners16

Depends if the rest of your team is alright, if so, do it

Nishy

Jock another top notch show I love it, you and higgo and crouching are champs #jockforpm

Cameron

Thanks for answering the question Jock, you're a hero and you're going into my will!

Luke M

Has steven may slipped under the radar. He looks like a supercoach made player for 300k he hasnt had that many possies in the last few games and he is still got over 100 on both games

Ocker

No he hasn't Mr Crimmins has written about him and Jaensch in this weeks flesh for fantasy.
Strongly suggest you read it.

I like him myself but the biggest problem is they both have that dreaded round 8 bye.

Cheers.

Crowmagnon

Thanks for podcast Jock. Appreciate the advice mate. Do you think Rohan to Ambrose is a good f6 trade? Ambrose looks like making good cash if he plays each week but Rohan has the job security.

Ocker

I believe that would be a good trade.
Very surprised that Rohan is named in team he was listed as very doubtful with a knee problem.
Could be late withdrawal?.

Keano96

Only problem with this is that Ambrose may not even be named on the weekend looking at that extended bench!
And even if he is, i question his job security, apparently just before Ryder got injured, Essendon was about to sub Ambrose off … So high possiblity he gets subbed this week if he plays.

Ronny

Yeah that's my fear to. Thinking Rohan to Ambrose, but bloody hell, even if he makes it to the final side he's a big chest of being the sub

Ronny

Ambrose that is

Crowmagnon

Thanks community.

Gilly

I have been thinking of turning McDonough into Ambrose but in the last 24 hours I am getting cold feet and going with Lewis Taylor instead. Was in my pre season research but pulled our when he was sub. Any thoughts?

Crowmagnon

I have Taylor in the mids and am now thinking Rohan out Taylor forward tyson in. I think Taylor is a solid fwd rookie pick.

joshpapworth

would like to get rid of rohan and got 240,000 in the bank… any thoughts on what to do?
thanks

Ocker

Swap for a rookie you don't have.
Depends whether you are looking for a league win or going for overall win?

Shame you don't have quite enough for Dahlhouse.

Cheers.

Daniel

Swap for rookie (Ambrose) and sit on the cash for a week or 3.

Joel

if you want to get rid of the cash then i maybe lachie hunter would be a good option with a reasonable rise in price

Scythe

Didn't make a trade last week. Shannon Hurn the only real problem with my squad now, so I'm thinking:
Trade 1: Out Michie, In Templeton
Trade 2: Out Hurn, In Hanley

I could just go Hurn to Grimes with one trade, but I don't want to risk having to trade Grimes to a top 10 defender later in the year. Hanley will be top 10 + Templeton offers quicker cash generation than Michie. At least for now.

Sound alright?

Ocker

Like the Hanley trade.
But I don't think Templeton would be your best option, Who else do you have in mid rookies?

Cheers.

Daniel

Agree with Ocker, Eli not best option. Also, if Michie on bench, you can always sit on him for a week or two if u already have the other good rooks, as his price won't change and he does have a negative BE. Melbs lineup will be a revolving door this year.

nicko

or how about trading higgins to fasolo in 2 weeks seing as he will be on the bubble then and higgins will rise due to a low BE

Ocker

You will just have to wait 2 weeks to find that one out.
There could be better options than Fasalo by then or even before.

Cheers.

Bailey

What does the community think about Sam Mayes? Seems like a good POD for mine. Loved the podcast Jock!

Ocker

Possible stepping stone but no keeper, I like the boy but not this year.

Guns and Rookies.
Cheers.

Rocksta

Well said Ocker.
He's definitely going to be a player in years to come but definitely not a keeper this year.
It's funny how we all started with somewhat more of a mid priced strategy this year.
After this weeks trades, the only mid pricier I have left in my team is Suckling.
Guns and Rookies all the way

Ocker

Cheers mate, I am still doing research on my trading this week. Have all day tomorrow though.
Just thought I would start being more helpful with a bit of knowledge and wisdom's in the community.
I have been told by Throttle I am a man of ********* but fixed his team.
**********(some bloody word I cant remember and had to look up in the dictionary)

Cheers.

Maenads

Thank you team at Flapping Tap Studios.
I was thinking a Thursday night Podcast would be appreciated. Then BANG you did it.
Awesome insight into your communities needs.
Lost for words.
As a gift I would forefiet my score if it meant any of you would win the 50 K over me.
But we all know thats not going to happen.
Good luck to all playing this wonderful game.

joshpapworth

wondering what i should do
should i upgrade matt suckling to david swallow or will suckling come good
2nd option, downgrade enright to swallow… but is it worth it.
help me out guys
thanks

Rocksta

That's a hard one.
Surely Enright won't come up will he? He looked the worse for wear on the bench last week. That said, if he's been named, you'd think that even if he's a late withdrawal he'll play next week.
Suckling will definitely improve as after all, he's only played 2 senior games after missing an entire season of Footy with a knee. Will he average 90+ for the year?………….Not likely.
If you can afford to take the risk on Enright for the week( have bench cover), I'd go Suckling to Swallow.

Ocker

Very well said Rocksta. Enright not serious he should play.

TOTALLY AGREE WITH ROCKSTA.

Cheers.

Rocksta

Thanks Ocker

Daniel

I'd be adventurous and go Enright to Swallow, generating a bit of cash and allowing an earlier upgrade of Suckers to a prem. Either way, Swallow a must have.

giraffe

higgins to zorko jock… got me thinking, never considered, now strong possibility rather than duddy to zorko

Ocker

If you can afford Higgins to Zorko. Go for it.
I have no bank but am not happy with Buddy so he is Zorko this week

Cheers.

Matt

Love you jock. Love your positivity love your podcasts. I’m in year 11 and listening to your podcast is my homework

Jimihk

You'll grow up to a be a rich man

Jimihk

Jokes – stay in school buddy!

thewoodsman

Great stuff Jock, a thursday night podcast you little RIPPA!!
Was hoping the community could help. Went to bed last night with Zorko in for Rohan and Tyson in for Daisy. Took a hit to the war chest but hunting overall. Woke this morning in London town and Hampson out. Looking at the Mummy to partner Sandi. As for trade 2 I dunno do I still look at bringing in Tyson?? He is the only rookie I don't have who looks the goods.OR do a dreaded sideways and go Robbie Grey to Zorko. Or maybe I just hold fire on Zorko.. Thoughts would be greatly appreciated 262k in the kitty.

Ocker

Robbie Gray should hold his price at least this week with a BE of 77.
Tyson seems to be a must have I would bring him in if you have someone under performing in mid.
Gives you another week to look at Zorko. He just might have a bad one but I hope he doesn't I just put him in.

Hope this helps.
Cheers.

Dools

that was by far the "Christmas in July " for me . I worked late and missed the community call so looks like Thursday lates for me are over..I want to speak!!! Great show mate
Made All the beter from the voices from the ether Now I have heard the community and like you Jock I am warmed to the core..Great questions and great answers.
This is what I have done. Enright out Mitchell back in the defensive line. IN D.Tyson . with Duncan on the bench.
ow I have 430K in the vault for mjor mid and forward line upgrades regardless of players performance this week.
Zorko I'm watching you!!!! Now if C. Enright cracks a tonne I will be devoed . Swallow get stuffed!!! A New G. Boughton ha been created . My 2 Cents folks lol

throttlefinger

HAHAHA! Can't wait for you to hit the speakpod, Dools.

Quite the war chest, my friend. Don't know when you are going to unleash it but look out when you do.

You think Enright won't play? For some reason, his injury seems less worrisome than Mitchell's. More touch and go.

Agree with you on Swallow. Pin going in this round and that hissssssssssss will be his SC scores.

Give It A Go

Ripper Jock, great information,
Whats your thoughts community,
I have Ryder, Hodge and Mitchell, just found out Mitchell is playing so I will leave Ryder and Hodge on the bench this week and check their fitness next week,
just wondering to bring Tyson in should I trade either Daisy or Shiels, have traded M Wright for Zorko

Cheers

throttlefinger

Hey GiveIt, what's up?

Ryder has an ankle injury. That's not good for a ruck. Especially someone who relies on his jumping ability to win hit outs. A sore ankle will hurt him downstairs and up…he'll be thinking about landing on it wrong again (looking down).

Seems you've had the same problems as me. I've traded Wright for Zorko. And Ryder for Mummy. Makes sense on the field and the SC wallet.

Give It A Go

Cheers TF, took your advice went Ryder-Mum and left M Wrigh for Zorko, seems that Shiels put in 92 SC points, hope Daisy does the same, looking good this round so far!

throttlefinger

Rawkin GiveIt! You and the Barron should be all smiles this morning from Shiels. Well done.

Same moves for me. Happy to get rid of both Ryder and Wright.

Rayza Ray

What can one say we get the email throughout the day saying 'Podcast tonight' and every single one of us automatically thinks community. Jock, Crouching, Higgo and Wayno all we can do is sit listen and say thanks. As mentioned this 'Podcast' is going to happen most Thursday nights lets support the team and hit the donate button, they give plenty to us!

Azza

Great podcast thanks Jock.
I am going to hang onto Daisy and miss the Tyson boat for now.
Got rid of Goldy for Big Sauce Jacobs and Rohan to May. So also missing the Zorko boat as only real option is get rid of Pav, T Mitchell, Dusty or Danger, in which I have chose to back all of them in.
Hopefully it works out! Cheers

thewoodsman

Azza, did you chose Sauce over Mummy mate? I have to replace Hampson and am weighing up my options.
By not picking Mummy I could replace Caddy with Zorko. It would mean carrying Rohan at F6 for the week again. Also that would mean I also miss the Tyson boat but something tells me in a few weeks Josh Kelly will be all the rage.

Daniel

Tyson performing in a weak team. Avg 31 disposals.

Gazza

Really hope I can get some feedback on this idea. Took the punt on Shiels and Daisy in the mids but with Fyfe out for 2 and Libba not really performing I'm looking to bolster my mids(Have Beams and Watson as keepers). So should I trade out Caddy for Ambrose then Daisy for Pendles prior to price rise.
cheers

Ocker

If Beams and Watson are your only 2 keepers in the mids I would say yes.
But lookout for round 8 bye and Caddy and Daisy should both rise in price this week.
Your choice.

Cheers.

Rocksta

Can't lose in the long run with that trade Gazza.
You are effectively trading out 2 mid pricers for a rookie ( to generate cash) which in turn enables you to get an Ultra Premium.
Although I think Daisy will continue to improve, he's not a keeper IMO.

Ocker

Agree with thewoodsman, Shiels would be a better option, Can you find the extra $10,000

Cheers.

Daniel

Shiels and Daisy to 2 of Tyson, Polec, Ellis, Dunstan…unless you already have them.

Gazza

Cheers Gents for the feedback. My Mids looks like this prior to any trades Watson, Libba, Beams, Fyfe, Shiels, Daisy, Polec, Ellis, Dunstan, Cunningham. After reading your replies and other posts would I be better served chasing the money or the points? Caddy was a punt and hasn't paid off whereas Matty Wright was hindered by the return of Douglas but might see more time in the guts due to the injury to Crouch. I also have McDonough sitting on the pine in my forwards which is only of slight concern.
Trade One
Out: Caddy, Daisy/shiels
In: Pendles, Ambrose

Trade Two
Out: Mcdonough, Daisy/shiels
In: Tyson, Ambrose

Cheers

Fabian

Thinking on the same line as you Gazza RE: Wright. I'd suggest trade 1 out of the two, because Pendles will benefit you now and in the long term. How short are you of going McDonough to Ambrose/ Shiels to Pendles?

thewoodsman

G'day Gazza, mate if you can't turn Shiels into Pendles then for sure.

Rocksta

I agree Woodsman?
I'd trade out Shiels before Daisy, if you have the coin.

thewoodsman

yeah mate agree and also from Shiels to Pendlebury HA thats a win.

thewoodsman

Gents Mummy or Zorko??
Need to replace Hampson could skip Mummy go cheaper and get Zorko for Caddy. Or get Mummy set and forget my R1 & R2 and worry about Zorko at a later date maybe next week even.

Rocksta

Thats a hard one!
Mummy looks like he's back to his form of a few years ago when he was one of the best Ruckmen in the league.
Zorko's BE is about -33 from memory and as such he'll probably increase by at least $45K this week.
I don't know why, but my gut tells me that Mummy isn't a keeper at R1/2, whilst its telling me that Zorko is a keeper at F3/4.
I'd thus go Caddy to Zorks, and Hampson to Hickey ( hes looked fantastic around the ground as well as in the Ruck). Do however make sure that Hickey's toe injury isn't serious. If nothing else, he'll make you a heap of money.

thewoodsman

Nice one Rocksta I like your thinking thanks heaps.
I've just been on footywire checking out prices and what not and I think Hickey is the way to go especially with the Premo Rucks due for some price drop.
Thanks again.

Rocksta

My pleasure?
Good Luck

Daniel

If Hickey even slighty dips in form he could find himself (like Goldy with Currie) sharing the load with Longer.

Mick

Consider HMac..averaged 80 odd first 2 weeks…now that he has sole ruck duties(Dawson Simpson has been dumped) his scores will rocket! Then you can get zorko too

Danners16

Mumford

Dogs

Still torn on F6 Rohan to ambrose or F4 wright to zorko………. Only have 1 trade left as I had to cover injury in the midfield .

Still pulling towards wright to zorko as wright is going to potentially lose a few $k , whereas Rohan is going to marginally increase, then I could still trade Rohan next week either to ambrose and still bank 30k from that or any other rookies that might break out

Rocksta

Wright to Zorko Dogs?
Douglas is a better player than wright and as such his SC friendly role is effectively over.
Rohan can be turned into an emerging Rookie later on or even a Fasolo when he's on the bubble in 3 weeks.
The Pies have been playing him off the half back line in the ressies and he's looked good. As we have so many problems in the backline, he will remain playing there as well.

Daniel

Wouldn't bother jumping on Ambrose next week unless he has another 80+ game this week…not for only 30K gain.

Dogs

I was just looking at the projected season high increases, ambrose is sitting on $240k whereas Rohan only 17k . It's still gonna come down to this weeks scores, who's playing, who's sub etc. and my only other forward rookies are mcdonut and JKH

Ocker

Wright to Zorko is a no brainer.

Cheers.

Dogs

Thanks guys, greatly appreciated. I've managed to swing Mitchell into my mids this week so I have ample cover if he and enright are late withdrawals. Swallow and zorko into the team to replace Barlow, wright I think works out really well , 2possible keepers in. $200k in the bank and hopefully no trades next week……unless Rohan has another spud attack, it's his last chance

Keano96

Thanks Jock for for that great podcast again, it was a great idea to get us all involved and voice our opinions and it was great having my opinion on the show!
I have decided to change my mind with trading out Dale Thomas after i saw Mitchie was omitted, so now im going to trade Michie to Tyson and keep in good old Dale Thomas.
Thanks again

Ocker

Good move Keano I like it.

Cheers.

engies

I still like Dale to Matt Thomas trade. Money maker and i dont think daisys a keeper

Rocksta

Fair call Engies

Jimihk

Diasy isn't a keeper but Thomas isn't the best option.

Thomas' output will likely drop with Daniel Jackson coming back into the side. So consider any rookie mid you don't already have.

Ocker

Sounds good to me if you already have Tyson who I would prefer.

Cozza

Option 1 – Rohan > Ambrose and Michie > Tyson; or
Option 2 – L Parker > Zorko and Michie > Tyson; or
Option 3 – Caddy > Zorko and D Thomas > Tyson.

Leaning towards option 1 for the cash generation in following weeks, but option 3 looks very enticing! Probably leaves my mids a bit light on though as I will need to field Ablett, Pendles, Beams, Cotchin, Tyson, Polec, Dunstan and Ellis and will also reduce my cash generation by going Rohan to Ambrose.

Any help would be greatly appreciated!

throttlefinger

Like Option 1. You're taking less risk and earning nice chunk of change while you're at it.

Cozza

Thanks throttle .. Leaning that way. Just so tempting to get zorko in at that price!! Doubt he’ll be that cheap again

Jimihk

Hate to go against the big LT but I think option 3.

Zorko is a must have and D Thomas will likely suffer once Jackson comes back into the side. So IMO you're better off getting Dyson.

Your getting a premo, and a top rookie. Although it might leave you short on $$$. As an ESS fan – not convinced Ambrose will be around for long, especially with Winderlich back in the side.

Jimihk

HAving said that, you need to get Mitchie out

Daniel

I think depends where Michie sits in your mids. If he's your M10 then slow burn could be an option as his BE is in the negative. Got at least 2-3 more games before his BE will even out.

Captain joc

D Thomas doesn’t play with Jackson ? And Jackson is back in the side

Daniel

Think you're getting your Thomas's mixed up Jimihk.
I don't think you're going in too weak with those 4 rooks…all performing well and long term gain coming your way!

Jimihk

You're quite right Daniel I was getting my D Thomas' mixed up.

Sorry mate, maybe one too many for me tonight.

Having said that, I still reckon it's worth getting Zorko in for caddy.

Good luck this weekend boys.

throttlefinger

Very true but Caddy and Parker will serve you pretty dawn well.

And because Rohan is playing, you could COULD keep him in for another week and do Caddy to Zorko. But getting Mitchie out should be a priority. Won't do you any good at that price. Really too bad you can't do both Caddy to Zorko and Michie to Tyson.

As tough as it sounds, Option 1 is the best, Cozza.

Ocker

Like throttlefinger says less risk.
Michie not playing, Rohan surprisingly named in team. has knee concern. He could be sub or late withdrawal.

Parker should be very close to holding his price
Caddy and Thomas should increase in value this week as well.

Hope this helps.
Cheers.

Cozza

Many thanks for the replies – appreciate all of your thoughts

Daniel

Was thinking of going Goldy to Mumford and Rohan to Ambrose, but since Michie out, have been considering Michie to Matt Thomas as my second trade. Thoughts?

Ocker

If you already have Tyson Go for it.

Cheers.

Daniel

Cheers mate! Was lucky enough to have Tyson, Polec, Dunstan, Ellis, Swallow, so can concentrate on improving rather than catching up, so strongly considering this move.

Captain joc

Hey jock I couldn’t make it earlier was playing dodgeball but I want to know your thoughts on Matthew jaensch from Adelaide at 298k average of 106 and with a lot of crows injured but also Adelaide have a pretty good draw after this week until the byes which I’d eventually upgrade him

I’d like to know the community thoughts on it aswell

And also who to trade for him I’ve got Mitchell,swallow,Hanley,McDonald,Langdon,Langford,georgiou and laidler

And want to make this trade because I don’t want to field 3 rookies

Ocker

Have you read Flesh For Fantasy if not I suggest you do.
If you feel it is something you must do I would suggest Laidler for the fact he has only played one game and is not going up in price. Job security is also an issue.
I must admit I gave him a lot of thought myself but I am sticking to Guns and Rookies.

Hope this helps.
Cheers.

Captain joc

Yeah I read it mate I’m deffaintly bringing him in was just deciding between Langford and laidler one of them will get the boot
Thanks mate
I’m going for overall as well

thewoodsman

If anyone Laidler I would think but off the top of my head I dunno if its too close to a sideways.

0,1023

B: McVeigh Mitchell Hanley D Swallow Clurey ( Langdon B Martin)
C Ablett J Kennedy Beams Murphy Thomas X Ellis Polec TaylorDunstan McDonald
R Jacobs Sandilands (Thurlow Currie)
F Martin Dangerfield Roughy Caddy Higgins Rohan (Impey Kennedy –Harris)

Option 1 B Martin and Clurey out for Tyson and Georgio
Option 2 Caddy and Higgins out for Tyson and Zorko

Any feedback much appreciated

Captain joc

Option 1 as caddy n Higgins are both playing and clurey n Martin aren’t

Dave2008

Yep good call Captain joc leaning that way as they will both go up as much as Zorko will roughly and the key rookies early are crucial but can I get my league win without Zorko?

Ocker

Caddy and Higgins should both increase in value this week.
2 non playing rookies out for Tyson and Georgio is the only way to go in my opinion.
Caddy and Higgins maybe next week for a gun and a rookie. Gives you another week to see zorko too.

Cheers

Dave2008

Thansks mate yes great help much appreciated. I should have said I am going for a league win and my opponent this week has Zorko as one of his key differences so I would need to get on the spreadsheet now and see if I think I can take him without him. Also I guess Caddy and Higgins could both go up the same as what Zoko will and one more week to look at him?

WombatsFC

Hi Dave,
If you can find a way to turn Caddy into Zorko do it because he will increase in price this round by $50k more than what Caddy will.
Caddy current ave is 71 and his B/E 29 if he scores 62 he'll go up by 15k
Higgins current ave is 68 and his B/E 5 if he scores 63 he'll go up by 26k
Zorko current ave is 141 and his B/E -33 if he scores 105 he'll go up by 62k

Dave2008

Thanks Wombat thats one of the options Im looking at but that would mean not having Tyson. I am after leauge and its vital to get off to a good start so you dont need to trade to get some league wins and can sit on them a bit more. Tyson or Dunstan would have to sit on the bench so one would be just for backup and cash generation. Zorko trade blocks one of this key diffs. Hmmmm

Daniel

Option 1 for sure. Altho consider Langford instead of georgiou, depending on your structures/plans…prob has better long term security, and I see JKH and maybe Rohan as more pressing upgrades in a weaker fwd line (even higgins and impey), than your defence, where georgiou may be relegated to rookie list eventually.

Daniel

Altho saying that, you seem to have left out a def???

Dave2008

Yep Suckling should have been there. Yes Georgio's JS when Garland comes back?? Good point re Forward line with long tail with Caddy HIggins Rohan as F 4 5 and 6. Great feedback thanks. Going to get on the spreadsheet and have a look at the best option and get back soon. How are your trades looking this week?

Ocker

JOCK:
I think I speak on behalf of the whole community when I say What a great thing it is that you start this Thursday night podcast. You should get one of those Queen things I think it is called an OBE or something like that for the work you do in the community it is greatly appreciated.
I sit here at my computer with my spreadsheets open and try and help the comunity with some of the wisdom's that I have learned from You Crouching Higgo and the rest of the team in the 2 years I have been on this site I now live for.
When my pension allows me to get one of those microphone things I will be on the speak pipe but until then I do have one very important suggestion.

SUGGESTION:
It would be great if you could tell the community that when they ask a question on this blog. It would be very helpful to those giving answers to their questions if they just put in to the question whether they are going for a league win or the big one.
If you are going for the big one choice of player is very important because of byes.

Also asking who do I put in my forward line for so and so?
Please list the forward line you have so you can answer it better. It is frustrating sometimes because you have too much back and forth. Where I as someone trying to help spend too much time looking to see if they have replied to my question that I should not have to ask in the first place.
Questions do not get answered because they are too vague.

I have been well received by this community and thanked for my help which pleases me greatly it leaves me with a great feeling of satisfaction.

Keep up the great work Jock and the

T ogether
E verybody
A chieves
M ore

Cheers.

throttlefinger

Hear hear! Well said Ocker.

Ocker

Thanks mate.

Ocker

Thanks Jock appreciate you replying and so glad you thought the suggestion was a good one. The whole community should benefit by it.

Cheers mate.

Kev

With Abbott bringing back Sir's and Dames I'd suggest Sir Jock Reynolds.

Has a lovely ring to it!

Ocker

Not a bad idea Kev

Cheers.

Dave2008

Well said Oker!

Ocker

Thanks Dave.

Cheers.

Dave2008

B: McVeigh Mitchell Hanley D Swallow Clurey ( Langdon B Martin)
C Ablett J Kennedy Beams Murphy Thomas X Ellis Polec TaylorDunstan McDonald
R Jacobs Sandilands (Thurlow Currie)
F Martin Dangerfield Roughy Caddy Higgins Rohan (Impey Kennedy –Harris)

Option 1: B Martin and Clurey out for Tyson and Georgio
Option 1: Caddy and Higgins out for Tyson and Zorko

Any feedback much appreciated

Dave2008

Sorry didnt mean to post this twice!

Ocker

No problems mate I am sure I answered that one earlier and I helped.

Cheers.

Danners16

Option 1 got to give Caddy the chance

Shinboner

Great, great work on the second podcast, boys! Much to mull over before the commencement of footy this week, that's for sure.

matt

Hey Jock and community.
Should I go Aish to Tyson leaving about $170k in bank or caddy to Zorko leaving about $65k in bank? Unfortunately I can’t get both

Ocker

That is a tough one matt.
Lucky you are looking at 2 blokes in the same team, Aish on bench but don't think he will cop the vest but keep an eye on that just in case.
I would lean towards Caddy to Zorko only for the fact that he should be a keeper.
That will also save you another trade down the track.
At least if Aish does cop the vest and you are not satisfied with your emergency you could go the other way and put Tyson in.
Hope that helps and you get many more opinions on that one.

Cheers.

Vasco

I’ve got P.Dangerfield, D.Martin, T.Mitchell, L.Parker, J.Caddy, S.Higgins, G.Rohan & JKH in my forward line. I’m getting Zorko in my midfield from trading Savage out.

Any suggestions on upgrading or downgrading my forward line?

Ocker

Caddy and Higgins should be okay for this week. If you put Lewis taylor in for JKH you could swing Zorko into the forward line and put Taylor on mid bench as long as you are happy with your midfield without Zorko.
Keep in mind that taylor might cop the vest this week so keep an eye on that.
There are more good mid rookies playing their second game this week if you need one next week by putting Taylor in mid you can trade out Rohan or JKH and swing Taylor to forward line and get another rookie in mids where the money is made.

JKH or Rohan to Ambrose gives you cash but I think with players returning he might cop the vest soon

Depending on how much cash you have Dahlhouse is a good forward option.

Hope I have helped and not confused you.

Cheers.

canman1306

Trade 1 Ryder->Mumford is Locked in
not so sure about trade 2
Option 1 :Should I trade Enright or Mitchell to Swallow? for Less cash and a similar output.

Option 2 : Trade Rohan Down to Ambrose for some extra Cash for early upgrades. although This trade means I will have to Play Lewis Taylor F6

Option 3 : Suckling -> Jaensch for some Quick cash and more than likely a better scoring output

Thoughts?

throttlefinger

For sure Option 1, Canman. Other two options stinky with risk and lightly satisfying rewards.

Lean towards Enright out. But that's a gut call on your part.

canman1306

Why Should we be Trading Premos though?

Ocker

Totally agree with throttlefinger on this one if you feel you must have Swallow.
Stick to guns and rookies.

Cheers.

SC Hardnut

V.Happy to have Sandi, Swallow, Tyson & Zorko since R1. #noheadaches #rookiesnowset

Josh

I'm thinking of Caddy to Tyson (via swinging L Taylor into the fwd line). What do you think? It gives me a solid cashcow in Tyson making 100 avg, $108,000 and I don't see Caddy now in the top 10 fwds come round 23.

Ocker

Sounds like a good trade but if you have Taylor on ground be careful he doesn't cop the vest this week..
Caddy was only ever going to be a stepping stone to a gun if you can't do that and can't get Tyson any other way it is a good trade in my opinion.

Cheers.

Josh

Cheers – that's the only way – Rohan + $bank doesn't do it.

piewood

That's the very move I made earlier in the week along with Rohan to Ambrose. After scoring 2324 last weekend I'm hoping for 2400+ score this round with the news Webster, Mitchell & Rockcliff are all playing.

Ronny

Like a fair few others this week, I'll probably end up going Rohan to Ambrose and Aish to Tyson. But part of me is hoping Sam Mitchell is a late out so I can trade Mitchell to Tyson (by swinging McDonald to the backline) and then going Rohan to Dahlhaus and just washing my hands of the whole forward rookie situation, which is so bloody dire this year. I fear that by trading Rohan to Ambrose, yeah I'll make a bit of cash, but really I'll just be trading one problem for another.

Ocker

Why does Sam Mitchell have to be a late out?
If you can afford to get Dahlhaus who is a keeper get rid of Rohan and get a gun rookie in Tyson that is what I would be doing.
I have Mitchell but have to keep him because I have more urgent problems to address at the moment. BUT I do worry about his calf, Obviously not that bad but calf injuries seem to take more than one week it may have just been a case of general soreness after being tagged by Rockliff.

Hope that helps.
Cheers.

Simon

Hello fellow SuperCoaches. Would like your thoughts on which two of the following trades I should make:
1) Goldstein to Mummy
2) Buddy to Zorko
3) Rohan/Mc Donough to anyone. Already have Ambrose and Impey.

Jai

1 and 2

Derek

Warnock must be considered now. Mummy had a couple of good games, but seriously, do you think he can continue?

Buddy will come good when the swans start delivering the ball to him better. Swans are a much better team than they have showed, and as they come good so will Buddy's scores. Zorko had a big week last week because Rocky was missing, he plays for Bris who will struggle this year. I have Buddy and going to keep him.

Anth

Hey everyone,

I have both Franklin and Pavlich, do you think I should trade one out, and if so who?

I still feel like these guys have more to offer, but I don't want to miss out on any cash makers (Zorko)

Thanks

Josh

Pav to Zork!

Jai

I wouldn't be looking at zorko as a cash maker… more of a set and forget if youre trading him into your side. if you think zorko will average significantly more than either buddy or pav from this round onwards then pull the trigger, bang bang, get him in your fwd line and forget about him.

Ocker

Pavlich will find form before Franklin in my opinion but your call (keep bye's in mind if you need to)

Zorko is a keeper, Should average about 100 from here on in as long as his role does not change.
Don't expect huge scores now that Rockliff is back

Cheers

Beady Eye

Agree with this. Pav has struggled with inaccurate kicking (Rd1) and crappy weather (Rd2) affecting his scores so far, whereas Buddy is just struggling fullstop.

Anth

Thanks for the Feedback guys!

I ended up going Buddy to Zorko, and daisy to dom tyson (which is a risk, but I'm in the risk taking business at the moment). Only downside is I missed out on ambrose.

James D

Rohan or Mcdonouh for Ambrose??

Jai

McDonough

Jimmy

whys that mate

Ocker

Rohan, Because he will not average more than 65 for the season if you are lucky.
McDonough because he is a non playing rookie stagnant on the bench not making anything.
I am surprised Rohan is playing this week he has a knee problem, Could cop the vest or be late withdrawal.

Either way they both need to go probably McDonough first.

Cheers.

Derek

I think Rohan is still in the swans best 22. he is a perfect bench cover, especially during the bye rounds.

WombatsFC

If anybody knows the price change formula including how to calculate the MN (magic Number) can they please post it here.

I've tried calculating the MN by dividing the 3 lowest rookie price points (not played yet prices) by their Breakeven and the figure ranges from 5332 to 5389.

Ocker

Wombat. All I can tell you at this stage is that FFGenie uses 5043.9003
Break Evens on this site are different to ffgenie.
You probably already know that BE's change after round 5 I think it is and then it drops in the range of 4980 in round numbers. That is of course depending on Champion Data changing that this year but I am not aware of that at this stage.
I do have the formula from last year's BE's but have not tried it on this years yet I will have a look after lunch and get back to you if that is any help.

Cheers.

Ocker

Price Change Formula 2013

((SUM(PREVIOUS THREE ROUNDS) X 5140) – CURRENT PRICE
3
————————————————
4

EG: assume round 3 score of 120

((178+99+120) x 5140) – $740,500
3
————————— = – $15,100
4

I made a calculator in excel last year that also does BE's at the same time as well as give you prices depending on assumed round 3 score. Havn't bothered this year yet.
There seems to be variations on every site I have looked so I am waiting till after round 5 when things are more settled.
If you can keep it on the quiet I will give you an email address to contact and I will send you a copy of the calculator I made last year which was accurate to within 2 points over all price ranges.

Cheers.

rosco_peco

First trade is Ryder to Mumford… No brainer! but stuck with trade no. 2. Options as follows;

(1) Rohan – Zorko (no fwd bench cover)
(2) Z. Merrett/Kennedy Harris – J. Merrett (i'm like $5k short of Zorko when trading one of these guys)

Cheers Community, best of luck over the weekend! Can get any worse than last round.

Ocker

Number 1 no brainer.

Cheers.

rosco_peco

Cheers blokes, Zorko the Magnificent it is!

Jai

number 1 definitely

Jimmy

i have got Jamie elliot, Mcdonough, rohan, dale thomas, cluery,

thinking about getting the likes of ; zorko, ambrose, matt thomas and possible jaensch (not that keen on him but a possibility)

what should i do fellas

would appreciate your thoughts jock!!

cheers

Derek

consider getting rid of the non-playing first. Cluery and McDonough.

Derek

the problem with getting players like Zorko, swallow, Thomas etc just for their price rise this week, is once you have them in your team and you get a nice price rise, unless you are willing to get rid of them within 3 weeks (cash in the price rise) their price will start to fall as the high scoring weeks drop out of their calculations. A couple of average weeks and they are back near what you paid for them.

Only consider the rookies for cash generation, not the mid price players unless you have a long term liking for them.

Beady Eye

This is where I think Thomas is a different proposition than the other two.

Zorko and Swallow both tick the boxes for emerging premiums – third year breakout potential, new position/role, etc. Even when they fall off from their current scoring rates, there's every reason to think they'll still finish in the top 10 defenders/forwards by season's end.

Krazee-Eyez Killa

Have gone with trading out Michie for Polec, and have brought in Steven May to replace Tomahawk (who will probably go out and kick 10 this week to stick it up me). Wish I'd never gone with him to begin with. May is set rise in price by around 60k this week, and has looked the goods early. Banking on him to keep it going

Beady Eye

Reckon you might be in for disappointment with May. Plays a lockdown style and hasn't shown high-scoring potential previously.

Good for a cash grab but not much more IMO.

Krazee-Eyez Killa

Not really backing him to be a stayer in my side. More so after the cash for now, and considering he's on the bubble, and the amount I'll save downgrading to him from Tomahawk, it works out to be a 100k+ win for me. DEF/FWD eligibility doesn't hurt either.

Racking up 122 against Freo last week can't be ignored

Beady Eye

Well it can if you watched the game and saw the way he scored that 122 (ie. a scrappy game played in the wet with lots of hacked kicks forward, meaning plenty of intercept marks to be had).

But I can see your logic, and it’s a fair enough trade if it’s purely to generate cash.