PODCAST: The Community Speaks. Round 3

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Supercoach 2014 preseason podcast

History tonight community!

Tonight we bring you for the very first time a second weekly podcast. This new Thursday night format is all about you lot – the community.

Enjoy the pre round show – we have had a ripping reaction from the community and many wisdoms sent in on the speakpipe.

We’re keen as mustard to hear your thoughts on the show – and to hear YOUR WISDOMS next week for our Thursday night show!

See you on the site and for the Sunday night show – Let’s get stuck in!

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  1. Osh says:

    Is it worth trading out Enright for swallow I've got 120k in the bank and my other trade is Zorko in for franklin

  2. Lewis says:

    Thoughts on Higgins to Ambrose & Suckling to Swallow? thanks guys

  3. Boydo says:

    Michie to M Thomas or MWright to Zorko

    • Jye says:

      Rate that

    • throttlefinger says:

      To Zorko. Reason being, he'll stick in your lineup longer and hold value longer. Thomas could or could not be a bolter. His price makes it harder to make trades. Zorko has an extremely low BE for a $400K+ player. Easier to move if shitte hits da fan.

      • Rocksta says:

        I agree Throttle.
        Zorko will reach well over $500k before dropping even if his form goes South. Then if need be, you'll be able to corrective trade him into just about anybody.
        Great hearing you on the Podcast also, and putting a voice to the posts.
        Best of luck

        • throttlefinger says:

          Thanks Rocksta! Yeah, that's my 4am voice! Can't wait to hear the rest of your voices on upcoming episodes.

          How's your trades looking this week? Good luck to you as well, sir.

          • Rocksta says:

            I went Higgins to Ambrose and Caddy to Zorko.

            Wanted to Go Higgins to Fasolo and Caddy to Zorks but am about $6K short.
            The Pies have been playing Fasolo on the Half back flank in the reserves and he's looked great. He is also getting fitter and looks bigger/ stronger than in previous years. He's a talented player and ill be looking at him when he's on the Bubble. Interestingly, he's been named on the wing.

            • throttlefinger says:

              I'm giving Higgins another week. If nothing over 80 and Fasolo does well, may do the switch then. May do it regardless. Don't like his form. Kick myself for choosing him or his teammate Hunter…was a fav in all my pre-season teams AND had the money to get him (i.e. me=fool!)

              Higgins is not losing money. And I would venture a guess he's not doing too much worse than most team's F6 (those who don't have Caddy or Hunter). What a freakin headache.

              • Rocksta says:

                May still press the 'Reverse Trades' button between now and the start of tomorrow's game.
                I don't like Caddy, and am kicking myself for getting sucked into starting with him.
                I think Higgins may yet improve but really want to facilitate the Caddy to Zorko trade.
                When Zorks tore it up 2 years ago, he was a tackling and running machine. That disappeared last year.
                But it's well and truly back and as such I'm seeing F4 Keeper.
                Anyhow, ill play around with the team more tomorrow.

                • throttlefinger says:

                  Good luck, my man. Toss Caddy for Zorko. Sounds like it will make you feel better.

                  • Ocker says:

                    One of my trades is possibly going to be Franklin to Zorko.
                    I don't really like to trade him because I may have to get him back, But I might not because we only have 6 forwards and I don't think Buddy will be one of those.
                    Thoughts mate


                    • throttlefinger says:

                      Hey Ocker. Whew. That's a tough one.

                      Let's look what you're getting with Zorko: A surging DPP whose value is going way up while his BE will be wildly low for many rounds. In other words, lot to gain, not much to lose.

                      Buddy on the other hand: 138 BE, will lose up to $33K and, more importantly, is on a struggling Swans team trying to make it work. Could break out a great score but with the Swans form, don't know how consistent that will be. Lot to lose, need lots o' luck for significant gains.

                      In my mind there's nothing wrong with ditching a player if he's playing below form and losing money to bring him back later when he's on the upswing. Imagine you get Zorko without losing $40K+ from keeping Buddy THEN are able to bring Buddy back when he bottoms out and his form returns. To me, that's just strong trading.

                      Well, that' s my 2 cents, Ocker. Hope it helps.

                    • Ocker says:

                      Done deal mate will do because I would not even be sure that Franklin will be worth putting back in the team either.
                      I have Buddy at 158 BE, The BE formula changes after round 5 or has in the past pretty sure mine are right.

                      Are you sticking with the trades you decided the other day?

                      Great to hear you on the speak pipe, Bad luck with Deledio's ankle.


                    • throttlefinger says:

                      Well, I'm trying to stay positive about Lids. Only a week. Good news was Matty C was included. Had him as my M10. No vest may roll dice and put him in.

                      Yep. Mummy and Zorko in. Ryder and Wright out. Like your Buddy move, just makes too much sense.

                      Look forward to hearing your voice on the speakie soon too, Ocker.

                    • Ocker says:

                      When I can afford one of those microphone things no problem I will be there, Just trying to get involved and help the community.
                      Don't normally ask questions. Buddy dumb move in the first place.

                    • throttlefinger says:

                      Not dumb move. Risky.

                      Here's a dumb move: putting Higgins as your F6 when you have enough cash to put L. Hunter…who you had as your F6 ALL preseason and team structures.

                    • Ocker says:

                      I had Hunter too and fell for the Caddy at last moment.
                      Just writing a post thanking Jock and the team be up in a moment.
                      My grammar is not that good hope it reads okay.

                      Cheers buddy.

                    • throttlefinger says:

                      Sure it will be top notch and appreciated by the boys no matter the grammar. From the heart matters more than by the book.

                    • Ocker says:

                      You are also a man of that bloody word you called me the other day.
                      But don't use words like that I had to google a bloody dictionary. Ha Ha.


                    • throttlefinger says:

                      HAHAHAHA. You got it, Ocker.

                • Ocker says:

                  I would trade Caddy to Zorko but don't have the cash so I am thinking Buddy to Zorko.


                  • Rocksta says:

                    Tough one Ocker.
                    I think Buddy will be better when Tippett is back as he may be able to play further up the ground.
                    I'd look elsewhere to facilitate that trade if you can.
                    If you can't, why not. I don't like starting with key forwards but they are great to bring in later in the season as they are form players and you can bring in the form player.

                    • Ocker says:

                      Thanks Mate but buddy was a bad move to start the year with, But I could afford him so I put him in. (Should have gone Dahlhouse or Zorko to start with)

                      Buddy is going.

                  • Daniel says:

                    I think we are judging Buddy based on Sydneys form. Great team that when eventually fire, Buddy could be the beneficiary.

            • Daniel says:

              Higgins to Fasolo could be just getting rid of one problem for another.

  4. mightymicks says:

    I love this new podcast on a Thursday night, brilliant. I've got a tough decision to make, my m8 is Dunstan with m10 crouch, I was thing crouch to Tyson but with crouch named should I hold, or get Tyson in, thoughts guys?

    • Bailey says:

      I’d go with Tyson because I think he simply is too good to go without unless you have other priorities this week. And there is still a big chance that matty crouch will be named as sub.

    • Danners16 says:

      Depends if the rest of your team is alright, if so, do it

  5. Nishy says:

    Jock another top notch show I love it, you and higgo and crouching are champs #jockforpm

  6. Cameron says:

    Thanks for answering the question Jock, you're a hero and you're going into my will!

  7. Luke M says:

    Has steven may slipped under the radar. He looks like a supercoach made player for 300k he hasnt had that many possies in the last few games and he is still got over 100 on both games

    • Ocker says:

      No he hasn't Mr Crimmins has written about him and Jaensch in this weeks flesh for fantasy.
      Strongly suggest you read it.

      I like him myself but the biggest problem is they both have that dreaded round 8 bye.


  8. Crowmagnon says:

    Thanks for podcast Jock. Appreciate the advice mate. Do you think Rohan to Ambrose is a good f6 trade? Ambrose looks like making good cash if he plays each week but Rohan has the job security.

    • Ocker says:

      I believe that would be a good trade.
      Very surprised that Rohan is named in team he was listed as very doubtful with a knee problem.
      Could be late withdrawal?.

    • Keano96 says:

      Only problem with this is that Ambrose may not even be named on the weekend looking at that extended bench!
      And even if he is, i question his job security, apparently just before Ryder got injured, Essendon was about to sub Ambrose off … So high possiblity he gets subbed this week if he plays.

    • Gilly says:

      I have been thinking of turning McDonough into Ambrose but in the last 24 hours I am getting cold feet and going with Lewis Taylor instead. Was in my pre season research but pulled our when he was sub. Any thoughts?

      • Crowmagnon says:

        I have Taylor in the mids and am now thinking Rohan out Taylor forward tyson in. I think Taylor is a solid fwd rookie pick.

  9. joshpapworth says:

    would like to get rid of rohan and got 240,000 in the bank… any thoughts on what to do?

    • Ocker says:

      Swap for a rookie you don't have.
      Depends whether you are looking for a league win or going for overall win?

      Shame you don't have quite enough for Dahlhouse.


    • Daniel says:

      Swap for rookie (Ambrose) and sit on the cash for a week or 3.

    • Joel says:

      if you want to get rid of the cash then i maybe lachie hunter would be a good option with a reasonable rise in price

  10. Scythe says:

    Didn't make a trade last week. Shannon Hurn the only real problem with my squad now, so I'm thinking:
    Trade 1: Out Michie, In Templeton
    Trade 2: Out Hurn, In Hanley

    I could just go Hurn to Grimes with one trade, but I don't want to risk having to trade Grimes to a top 10 defender later in the year. Hanley will be top 10 + Templeton offers quicker cash generation than Michie. At least for now.

    Sound alright?

    • Ocker says:

      Like the Hanley trade.
      But I don't think Templeton would be your best option, Who else do you have in mid rookies?


    • Daniel says:

      Agree with Ocker, Eli not best option. Also, if Michie on bench, you can always sit on him for a week or two if u already have the other good rooks, as his price won't change and he does have a negative BE. Melbs lineup will be a revolving door this year.

  11. nicko says:

    or how about trading higgins to fasolo in 2 weeks seing as he will be on the bubble then and higgins will rise due to a low BE

    • Ocker says:

      You will just have to wait 2 weeks to find that one out.
      There could be better options than Fasalo by then or even before.


  12. Bailey says:

    What does the community think about Sam Mayes? Seems like a good POD for mine. Loved the podcast Jock!

    • Ocker says:

      Possible stepping stone but no keeper, I like the boy but not this year.

      Guns and Rookies.

      • Rocksta says:

        Well said Ocker.
        He's definitely going to be a player in years to come but definitely not a keeper this year.
        It's funny how we all started with somewhat more of a mid priced strategy this year.
        After this weeks trades, the only mid pricier I have left in my team is Suckling.
        Guns and Rookies all the way

        • Ocker says:

          Cheers mate, I am still doing research on my trading this week. Have all day tomorrow though.
          Just thought I would start being more helpful with a bit of knowledge and wisdom's in the community.
          I have been told by Throttle I am a man of ********* but fixed his team.
          **********(some bloody word I cant remember and had to look up in the dictionary)


  13. Maenads says:

    Thank you team at Flapping Tap Studios.
    I was thinking a Thursday night Podcast would be appreciated. Then BANG you did it.
    Awesome insight into your communities needs.
    Lost for words.
    As a gift I would forefiet my score if it meant any of you would win the 50 K over me.
    But we all know thats not going to happen.
    Good luck to all playing this wonderful game.

  14. joshpapworth says:

    wondering what i should do
    should i upgrade matt suckling to david swallow or will suckling come good
    2nd option, downgrade enright to swallow… but is it worth it.
    help me out guys

    • Rocksta says:

      That's a hard one.
      Surely Enright won't come up will he? He looked the worse for wear on the bench last week. That said, if he's been named, you'd think that even if he's a late withdrawal he'll play next week.
      Suckling will definitely improve as after all, he's only played 2 senior games after missing an entire season of Footy with a knee. Will he average 90+ for the year?………….Not likely.
      If you can afford to take the risk on Enright for the week( have bench cover), I'd go Suckling to Swallow.

      • Ocker says:

        Very well said Rocksta. Enright not serious he should play.



      • Daniel says:

        I'd be adventurous and go Enright to Swallow, generating a bit of cash and allowing an earlier upgrade of Suckers to a prem. Either way, Swallow a must have.

  15. giraffe says:

    higgins to zorko jock… got me thinking, never considered, now strong possibility rather than duddy to zorko

    • Ocker says:

      If you can afford Higgins to Zorko. Go for it.
      I have no bank but am not happy with Buddy so he is Zorko this week


  16. Matt says:

    Love you jock. Love your positivity love your podcasts. I’m in year 11 and listening to your podcast is my homework

  17. thewoodsman says:

    Great stuff Jock, a thursday night podcast you little RIPPA!!
    Was hoping the community could help. Went to bed last night with Zorko in for Rohan and Tyson in for Daisy. Took a hit to the war chest but hunting overall. Woke this morning in London town and Hampson out. Looking at the Mummy to partner Sandi. As for trade 2 I dunno do I still look at bringing in Tyson?? He is the only rookie I don't have who looks the goods.OR do a dreaded sideways and go Robbie Grey to Zorko. Or maybe I just hold fire on Zorko.. Thoughts would be greatly appreciated 262k in the kitty.

    • Ocker says:

      Robbie Gray should hold his price at least this week with a BE of 77.
      Tyson seems to be a must have I would bring him in if you have someone under performing in mid.
      Gives you another week to look at Zorko. He just might have a bad one but I hope he doesn't I just put him in.

      Hope this helps.

  18. Dools says:

    that was by far the "Christmas in July " for me . I worked late and missed the community call so looks like Thursday lates for me are over..I want to speak!!! Great show mate
    Made All the beter from the voices from the ether Now I have heard the community and like you Jock I am warmed to the core..Great questions and great answers.
    This is what I have done. Enright out Mitchell back in the defensive line. IN D.Tyson . with Duncan on the bench.
    ow I have 430K in the vault for mjor mid and forward line upgrades regardless of players performance this week.
    Zorko I'm watching you!!!! Now if C. Enright cracks a tonne I will be devoed . Swallow get stuffed!!! A New G. Boughton ha been created . My 2 Cents folks lol

    • throttlefinger says:

      HAHAHA! Can't wait for you to hit the speakpod, Dools.

      Quite the war chest, my friend. Don't know when you are going to unleash it but look out when you do.

      You think Enright won't play? For some reason, his injury seems less worrisome than Mitchell's. More touch and go.

      Agree with you on Swallow. Pin going in this round and that hissssssssssss will be his SC scores.

    • jockreynolds says:

      Cant wait to hear you on the show next week son!!

  19. Give It A Go says:

    Ripper Jock, great information,
    Whats your thoughts community,
    I have Ryder, Hodge and Mitchell, just found out Mitchell is playing so I will leave Ryder and Hodge on the bench this week and check their fitness next week,
    just wondering to bring Tyson in should I trade either Daisy or Shiels, have traded M Wright for Zorko


    • throttlefinger says:

      Hey GiveIt, what's up?

      Ryder has an ankle injury. That's not good for a ruck. Especially someone who relies on his jumping ability to win hit outs. A sore ankle will hurt him downstairs and up…he'll be thinking about landing on it wrong again (looking down).

      Seems you've had the same problems as me. I've traded Wright for Zorko. And Ryder for Mummy. Makes sense on the field and the SC wallet.

      • Give It A Go says:

        Cheers TF, took your advice went Ryder-Mum and left M Wrigh for Zorko, seems that Shiels put in 92 SC points, hope Daisy does the same, looking good this round so far!

        • throttlefinger says:

          Rawkin GiveIt! You and the Barron should be all smiles this morning from Shiels. Well done.

          Same moves for me. Happy to get rid of both Ryder and Wright.

  20. Rayza Ray says:

    What can one say we get the email throughout the day saying 'Podcast tonight' and every single one of us automatically thinks community. Jock, Crouching, Higgo and Wayno all we can do is sit listen and say thanks. As mentioned this 'Podcast' is going to happen most Thursday nights lets support the team and hit the donate button, they give plenty to us!

  21. Azza says:

    Great podcast thanks Jock.
    I am going to hang onto Daisy and miss the Tyson boat for now.
    Got rid of Goldy for Big Sauce Jacobs and Rohan to May. So also missing the Zorko boat as only real option is get rid of Pav, T Mitchell, Dusty or Danger, in which I have chose to back all of them in.
    Hopefully it works out! Cheers

    • thewoodsman says:

      Azza, did you chose Sauce over Mummy mate? I have to replace Hampson and am weighing up my options.
      By not picking Mummy I could replace Caddy with Zorko. It would mean carrying Rohan at F6 for the week again. Also that would mean I also miss the Tyson boat but something tells me in a few weeks Josh Kelly will be all the rage.

  22. Gazza says:

    Really hope I can get some feedback on this idea. Took the punt on Shiels and Daisy in the mids but with Fyfe out for 2 and Libba not really performing I'm looking to bolster my mids(Have Beams and Watson as keepers). So should I trade out Caddy for Ambrose then Daisy for Pendles prior to price rise.

    • Ocker says:

      If Beams and Watson are your only 2 keepers in the mids I would say yes.
      But lookout for round 8 bye and Caddy and Daisy should both rise in price this week.
      Your choice.


    • Rocksta says:

      Can't lose in the long run with that trade Gazza.
      You are effectively trading out 2 mid pricers for a rookie ( to generate cash) which in turn enables you to get an Ultra Premium.
      Although I think Daisy will continue to improve, he's not a keeper IMO.

    • Ocker says:

      Agree with thewoodsman, Shiels would be a better option, Can you find the extra $10,000


    • Daniel says:

      Shiels and Daisy to 2 of Tyson, Polec, Ellis, Dunstan…unless you already have them.

    • Gazza says:

      Cheers Gents for the feedback. My Mids looks like this prior to any trades Watson, Libba, Beams, Fyfe, Shiels, Daisy, Polec, Ellis, Dunstan, Cunningham. After reading your replies and other posts would I be better served chasing the money or the points? Caddy was a punt and hasn't paid off whereas Matty Wright was hindered by the return of Douglas but might see more time in the guts due to the injury to Crouch. I also have McDonough sitting on the pine in my forwards which is only of slight concern.
      Trade One
      Out: Caddy, Daisy/shiels
      In: Pendles, Ambrose

      Trade Two
      Out: Mcdonough, Daisy/shiels
      In: Tyson, Ambrose


      • Fabian says:

        Thinking on the same line as you Gazza RE: Wright. I'd suggest trade 1 out of the two, because Pendles will benefit you now and in the long term. How short are you of going McDonough to Ambrose/ Shiels to Pendles?

  23. thewoodsman says:

    G'day Gazza, mate if you can't turn Shiels into Pendles then for sure.

    • Rocksta says:

      I agree Woodsman?
      I'd trade out Shiels before Daisy, if you have the coin.

      • thewoodsman says:

        yeah mate agree and also from Shiels to Pendlebury HA thats a win.

  24. thewoodsman says:

    Gents Mummy or Zorko??
    Need to replace Hampson could skip Mummy go cheaper and get Zorko for Caddy. Or get Mummy set and forget my R1 & R2 and worry about Zorko at a later date maybe next week even.

    • Rocksta says:

      Thats a hard one!
      Mummy looks like he's back to his form of a few years ago when he was one of the best Ruckmen in the league.
      Zorko's BE is about -33 from memory and as such he'll probably increase by at least $45K this week.
      I don't know why, but my gut tells me that Mummy isn't a keeper at R1/2, whilst its telling me that Zorko is a keeper at F3/4.
      I'd thus go Caddy to Zorks, and Hampson to Hickey ( hes looked fantastic around the ground as well as in the Ruck). Do however make sure that Hickey's toe injury isn't serious. If nothing else, he'll make you a heap of money.

      • thewoodsman says:

        Nice one Rocksta I like your thinking thanks heaps.
        I've just been on footywire checking out prices and what not and I think Hickey is the way to go especially with the Premo Rucks due for some price drop.
        Thanks again.

      • Daniel says:

        If Hickey even slighty dips in form he could find himself (like Goldy with Currie) sharing the load with Longer.

    • Mick says:

      Consider HMac..averaged 80 odd first 2 weeks…now that he has sole ruck duties(Dawson Simpson has been dumped) his scores will rocket! Then you can get zorko too

    • Danners16 says:


  25. Dogs says:

    Still torn on F6 Rohan to ambrose or F4 wright to zorko………. Only have 1 trade left as I had to cover injury in the midfield .

    Still pulling towards wright to zorko as wright is going to potentially lose a few $k , whereas Rohan is going to marginally increase, then I could still trade Rohan next week either to ambrose and still bank 30k from that or any other rookies that might break out

    • Rocksta says:

      Wright to Zorko Dogs?
      Douglas is a better player than wright and as such his SC friendly role is effectively over.
      Rohan can be turned into an emerging Rookie later on or even a Fasolo when he's on the bubble in 3 weeks.
      The Pies have been playing him off the half back line in the ressies and he's looked good. As we have so many problems in the backline, he will remain playing there as well.

    • Daniel says:

      Wouldn't bother jumping on Ambrose next week unless he has another 80+ game this week…not for only 30K gain.

      • Dogs says:

        I was just looking at the projected season high increases, ambrose is sitting on $240k whereas Rohan only 17k . It's still gonna come down to this weeks scores, who's playing, who's sub etc. and my only other forward rookies are mcdonut and JKH

    • Ocker says:

      Wright to Zorko is a no brainer.


    • Dogs says:

      Thanks guys, greatly appreciated. I've managed to swing Mitchell into my mids this week so I have ample cover if he and enright are late withdrawals. Swallow and zorko into the team to replace Barlow, wright I think works out really well , 2possible keepers in. $200k in the bank and hopefully no trades next week……unless Rohan has another spud attack, it's his last chance

  26. Keano96 says:

    Thanks Jock for for that great podcast again, it was a great idea to get us all involved and voice our opinions and it was great having my opinion on the show!
    I have decided to change my mind with trading out Dale Thomas after i saw Mitchie was omitted, so now im going to trade Michie to Tyson and keep in good old Dale Thomas.
    Thanks again

  27. engies says:

    I still like Dale to Matt Thomas trade. Money maker and i dont think daisys a keeper

    • Rocksta says:

      Fair call Engies

    • Jimihk says:

      Diasy isn't a keeper but Thomas isn't the best option.

      Thomas' output will likely drop with Daniel Jackson coming back into the side. So consider any rookie mid you don't already have.

    • Ocker says:

      Sounds good to me if you already have Tyson who I would prefer.

  28. Cozza says:

    Option 1 – Rohan > Ambrose and Michie > Tyson; or
    Option 2 – L Parker > Zorko and Michie > Tyson; or
    Option 3 – Caddy > Zorko and D Thomas > Tyson.

    Leaning towards option 1 for the cash generation in following weeks, but option 3 looks very enticing! Probably leaves my mids a bit light on though as I will need to field Ablett, Pendles, Beams, Cotchin, Tyson, Polec, Dunstan and Ellis and will also reduce my cash generation by going Rohan to Ambrose.

    Any help would be greatly appreciated!

    • throttlefinger says:

      Like Option 1. You're taking less risk and earning nice chunk of change while you're at it.

      • Cozza says:

        Thanks throttle .. Leaning that way. Just so tempting to get zorko in at that price!! Doubt he’ll be that cheap again

        • Jimihk says:

          Hate to go against the big LT but I think option 3.

          Zorko is a must have and D Thomas will likely suffer once Jackson comes back into the side. So IMO you're better off getting Dyson.

          Your getting a premo, and a top rookie. Although it might leave you short on $$$. As an ESS fan – not convinced Ambrose will be around for long, especially with Winderlich back in the side.

          • Jimihk says:

            HAving said that, you need to get Mitchie out

            • Daniel says:

              I think depends where Michie sits in your mids. If he's your M10 then slow burn could be an option as his BE is in the negative. Got at least 2-3 more games before his BE will even out.

          • Captain joc says:

            D Thomas doesn’t play with Jackson ? And Jackson is back in the side

          • Daniel says:

            Think you're getting your Thomas's mixed up Jimihk.
            I don't think you're going in too weak with those 4 rooks…all performing well and long term gain coming your way!

            • Jimihk says:

              You're quite right Daniel I was getting my D Thomas' mixed up.

              Sorry mate, maybe one too many for me tonight.

              Having said that, I still reckon it's worth getting Zorko in for caddy.

              Good luck this weekend boys.

        • throttlefinger says:

          Very true but Caddy and Parker will serve you pretty dawn well.

          And because Rohan is playing, you could COULD keep him in for another week and do Caddy to Zorko. But getting Mitchie out should be a priority. Won't do you any good at that price. Really too bad you can't do both Caddy to Zorko and Michie to Tyson.

          As tough as it sounds, Option 1 is the best, Cozza.

      • Ocker says:

        Like throttlefinger says less risk.
        Michie not playing, Rohan surprisingly named in team. has knee concern. He could be sub or late withdrawal.

        Parker should be very close to holding his price
        Caddy and Thomas should increase in value this week as well.

        Hope this helps.

    • Cozza says:

      Many thanks for the replies – appreciate all of your thoughts

  29. Daniel says:

    Was thinking of going Goldy to Mumford and Rohan to Ambrose, but since Michie out, have been considering Michie to Matt Thomas as my second trade. Thoughts?

    • Ocker says:

      If you already have Tyson Go for it.


      • Daniel says:

        Cheers mate! Was lucky enough to have Tyson, Polec, Dunstan, Ellis, Swallow, so can concentrate on improving rather than catching up, so strongly considering this move.

  30. Captain joc says:

    Hey jock I couldn’t make it earlier was playing dodgeball but I want to know your thoughts on Matthew jaensch from Adelaide at 298k average of 106 and with a lot of crows injured but also Adelaide have a pretty good draw after this week until the byes which I’d eventually upgrade him

    I’d like to know the community thoughts on it aswell

    And also who to trade for him I’ve got Mitchell,swallow,Hanley,McDonald,Langdon,Langford,georgiou and laidler

    And want to make this trade because I don’t want to field 3 rookies

    • Ocker says:

      Have you read Flesh For Fantasy if not I suggest you do.
      If you feel it is something you must do I would suggest Laidler for the fact he has only played one game and is not going up in price. Job security is also an issue.
      I must admit I gave him a lot of thought myself but I am sticking to Guns and Rookies.

      Hope this helps.

      • Captain joc says:

        Yeah I read it mate I’m deffaintly bringing him in was just deciding between Langford and laidler one of them will get the boot
        Thanks mate
        I’m going for overall as well

  31. thewoodsman says:

    If anyone Laidler I would think but off the top of my head I dunno if its too close to a sideways.

  32. 0,1023 says:

    B: McVeigh Mitchell Hanley D Swallow Clurey ( Langdon B Martin)
    C Ablett J Kennedy Beams Murphy Thomas X Ellis Polec TaylorDunstan McDonald
    R Jacobs Sandilands (Thurlow Currie)
    F Martin Dangerfield Roughy Caddy Higgins Rohan (Impey Kennedy –Harris)

    Option 1 B Martin and Clurey out for Tyson and Georgio
    Option 2 Caddy and Higgins out for Tyson and Zorko

    Any feedback much appreciated

    • Captain joc says:

      Option 1 as caddy n Higgins are both playing and clurey n Martin aren’t

      • Dave2008 says:

        Yep good call Captain joc leaning that way as they will both go up as much as Zorko will roughly and the key rookies early are crucial but can I get my league win without Zorko?

    • Ocker says:

      Caddy and Higgins should both increase in value this week.
      2 non playing rookies out for Tyson and Georgio is the only way to go in my opinion.
      Caddy and Higgins maybe next week for a gun and a rookie. Gives you another week to see zorko too.


      • Dave2008 says:

        Thansks mate yes great help much appreciated. I should have said I am going for a league win and my opponent this week has Zorko as one of his key differences so I would need to get on the spreadsheet now and see if I think I can take him without him. Also I guess Caddy and Higgins could both go up the same as what Zoko will and one more week to look at him?

        • WombatsFC says:

          Hi Dave,
          If you can find a way to turn Caddy into Zorko do it because he will increase in price this round by $50k more than what Caddy will.
          Caddy current ave is 71 and his B/E 29 if he scores 62 he'll go up by 15k
          Higgins current ave is 68 and his B/E 5 if he scores 63 he'll go up by 26k
          Zorko current ave is 141 and his B/E -33 if he scores 105 he'll go up by 62k

          • Dave2008 says:

            Thanks Wombat thats one of the options Im looking at but that would mean not having Tyson. I am after leauge and its vital to get off to a good start so you dont need to trade to get some league wins and can sit on them a bit more. Tyson or Dunstan would have to sit on the bench so one would be just for backup and cash generation. Zorko trade blocks one of this key diffs. Hmmmm

    • Daniel says:

      Option 1 for sure. Altho consider Langford instead of georgiou, depending on your structures/plans…prob has better long term security, and I see JKH and maybe Rohan as more pressing upgrades in a weaker fwd line (even higgins and impey), than your defence, where georgiou may be relegated to rookie list eventually.

      • Daniel says:

        Altho saying that, you seem to have left out a def???

      • Dave2008 says:

        Yep Suckling should have been there. Yes Georgio's JS when Garland comes back?? Good point re Forward line with long tail with Caddy HIggins Rohan as F 4 5 and 6. Great feedback thanks. Going to get on the spreadsheet and have a look at the best option and get back soon. How are your trades looking this week?

  33. Ocker says:

    I think I speak on behalf of the whole community when I say What a great thing it is that you start this Thursday night podcast. You should get one of those Queen things I think it is called an OBE or something like that for the work you do in the community it is greatly appreciated.
    I sit here at my computer with my spreadsheets open and try and help the comunity with some of the wisdom's that I have learned from You Crouching Higgo and the rest of the team in the 2 years I have been on this site I now live for.
    When my pension allows me to get one of those microphone things I will be on the speak pipe but until then I do have one very important suggestion.

    It would be great if you could tell the community that when they ask a question on this blog. It would be very helpful to those giving answers to their questions if they just put in to the question whether they are going for a league win or the big one.
    If you are going for the big one choice of player is very important because of byes.

    Also asking who do I put in my forward line for so and so?
    Please list the forward line you have so you can answer it better. It is frustrating sometimes because you have too much back and forth. Where I as someone trying to help spend too much time looking to see if they have replied to my question that I should not have to ask in the first place.
    Questions do not get answered because they are too vague.

    I have been well received by this community and thanked for my help which pleases me greatly it leaves me with a great feeling of satisfaction.

    Keep up the great work Jock and the

    T ogether
    E verybody
    A chieves
    M ore


  34. Dave2008 says:

    B: McVeigh Mitchell Hanley D Swallow Clurey ( Langdon B Martin)
    C Ablett J Kennedy Beams Murphy Thomas X Ellis Polec TaylorDunstan McDonald
    R Jacobs Sandilands (Thurlow Currie)
    F Martin Dangerfield Roughy Caddy Higgins Rohan (Impey Kennedy –Harris)

    Option 1: B Martin and Clurey out for Tyson and Georgio
    Option 1: Caddy and Higgins out for Tyson and Zorko

    Any feedback much appreciated

  35. Shinboner says:

    Great, great work on the second podcast, boys! Much to mull over before the commencement of footy this week, that's for sure.

  36. matt says:

    Hey Jock and community.
    Should I go Aish to Tyson leaving about $170k in bank or caddy to Zorko leaving about $65k in bank? Unfortunately I can’t get both

    • Ocker says:

      That is a tough one matt.
      Lucky you are looking at 2 blokes in the same team, Aish on bench but don't think he will cop the vest but keep an eye on that just in case.
      I would lean towards Caddy to Zorko only for the fact that he should be a keeper.
      That will also save you another trade down the track.
      At least if Aish does cop the vest and you are not satisfied with your emergency you could go the other way and put Tyson in.
      Hope that helps and you get many more opinions on that one.


  37. Vasco says:

    I’ve got P.Dangerfield, D.Martin, T.Mitchell, L.Parker, J.Caddy, S.Higgins, G.Rohan & JKH in my forward line. I’m getting Zorko in my midfield from trading Savage out.

    Any suggestions on upgrading or downgrading my forward line?

    • Ocker says:

      Caddy and Higgins should be okay for this week. If you put Lewis taylor in for JKH you could swing Zorko into the forward line and put Taylor on mid bench as long as you are happy with your midfield without Zorko.
      Keep in mind that taylor might cop the vest this week so keep an eye on that.
      There are more good mid rookies playing their second game this week if you need one next week by putting Taylor in mid you can trade out Rohan or JKH and swing Taylor to forward line and get another rookie in mids where the money is made.

      JKH or Rohan to Ambrose gives you cash but I think with players returning he might cop the vest soon

      Depending on how much cash you have Dahlhouse is a good forward option.

      Hope I have helped and not confused you.


      • Vasco says:

        After making the Savage trade for Zorko. I've got $14,900 left.

        My midfield is Ablett, Pendelbury, D.Beams, D.Thomas, Tyson, Polec, X.Ellis, Dunstan, Michie & Zorko after making the trade.

        Should I trade Michie instead of Rohan or JKH for L.Taylor? Then next week trade Rohan or JKH to a midfield rookie and swing Taylor into my fwd bench

        • Ocker says:

          You will need Taylor in the forward line to get Zorko from mids to forward if you want Zorko forward this week. (Trade for JKH)
          Next week trade Rohan and move Taylor to forward if you want a mid rookie.

          OR leave Taylor on bench in mids which means you can trade for Michie if you like so you have a swing from forwards to mids Which means you have Zorko in mids this week and you can trade out an unwanted forward for cash next week and just move Zorko forward depends on how Caddy and Higgins go this week.
          eg: Next week trade Caddy and or Higgins/Rohan move Zorko to forwards, This frees up cash to maybe give you enough cash for the war chest or upgrade your defense if you can.

          Keep an eye on Dylan Buckley this week and Josh Kelly both mid rookies playing 2nd game this week.


  38. canman1306 says:

    Trade 1 Ryder->Mumford is Locked in
    not so sure about trade 2
    Option 1 :Should I trade Enright or Mitchell to Swallow? for Less cash and a similar output.

    Option 2 : Trade Rohan Down to Ambrose for some extra Cash for early upgrades. although This trade means I will have to Play Lewis Taylor F6

    Option 3 : Suckling -> Jaensch for some Quick cash and more than likely a better scoring output


    • throttlefinger says:

      For sure Option 1, Canman. Other two options stinky with risk and lightly satisfying rewards.

      Lean towards Enright out. But that's a gut call on your part.

    • Ocker says:

      Totally agree with throttlefinger on this one if you feel you must have Swallow.
      Stick to guns and rookies.


  39. SC Hardnut says:

    V.Happy to have Sandi, Swallow, Tyson & Zorko since R1. #noheadaches #rookiesnowset

  40. Josh says:

    I'm thinking of Caddy to Tyson (via swinging L Taylor into the fwd line). What do you think? It gives me a solid cashcow in Tyson making 100 avg, $108,000 and I don't see Caddy now in the top 10 fwds come round 23.

    • Ocker says:

      Sounds like a good trade but if you have Taylor on ground be careful he doesn't cop the vest this week..
      Caddy was only ever going to be a stepping stone to a gun if you can't do that and can't get Tyson any other way it is a good trade in my opinion.


    • piewood says:

      That's the very move I made earlier in the week along with Rohan to Ambrose. After scoring 2324 last weekend I'm hoping for 2400+ score this round with the news Webster, Mitchell & Rockcliff are all playing.

  41. Ronny says:

    Like a fair few others this week, I'll probably end up going Rohan to Ambrose and Aish to Tyson. But part of me is hoping Sam Mitchell is a late out so I can trade Mitchell to Tyson (by swinging McDonald to the backline) and then going Rohan to Dahlhaus and just washing my hands of the whole forward rookie situation, which is so bloody dire this year. I fear that by trading Rohan to Ambrose, yeah I'll make a bit of cash, but really I'll just be trading one problem for another.

    • Ocker says:

      Why does Sam Mitchell have to be a late out?
      If you can afford to get Dahlhaus who is a keeper get rid of Rohan and get a gun rookie in Tyson that is what I would be doing.
      I have Mitchell but have to keep him because I have more urgent problems to address at the moment. BUT I do worry about his calf, Obviously not that bad but calf injuries seem to take more than one week it may have just been a case of general soreness after being tagged by Rockliff.

      Hope that helps.

  42. Simon says:

    Hello fellow SuperCoaches. Would like your thoughts on which two of the following trades I should make:
    1) Goldstein to Mummy
    2) Buddy to Zorko
    3) Rohan/Mc Donough to anyone. Already have Ambrose and Impey.

    • Jai says:

      1 and 2

    • Derek says:

      Warnock must be considered now. Mummy had a couple of good games, but seriously, do you think he can continue?

      Buddy will come good when the swans start delivering the ball to him better. Swans are a much better team than they have showed, and as they come good so will Buddy's scores. Zorko had a big week last week because Rocky was missing, he plays for Bris who will struggle this year. I have Buddy and going to keep him.

  43. Anth says:

    Hey everyone,

    I have both Franklin and Pavlich, do you think I should trade one out, and if so who?

    I still feel like these guys have more to offer, but I don't want to miss out on any cash makers (Zorko)


    • Josh says:

      Pav to Zork!

    • Jai says:

      I wouldn't be looking at zorko as a cash maker… more of a set and forget if youre trading him into your side. if you think zorko will average significantly more than either buddy or pav from this round onwards then pull the trigger, bang bang, get him in your fwd line and forget about him.

    • Ocker says:

      Pavlich will find form before Franklin in my opinion but your call (keep bye's in mind if you need to)

      Zorko is a keeper, Should average about 100 from here on in as long as his role does not change.
      Don't expect huge scores now that Rockliff is back


      • Beady Eye says:

        Agree with this. Pav has struggled with inaccurate kicking (Rd1) and crappy weather (Rd2) affecting his scores so far, whereas Buddy is just struggling fullstop.

        • Anth says:

          Thanks for the Feedback guys!

          I ended up going Buddy to Zorko, and daisy to dom tyson (which is a risk, but I'm in the risk taking business at the moment). Only downside is I missed out on ambrose.

  44. James D says:

    Rohan or Mcdonouh for Ambrose??

    • Jai says:


    • Ocker says:

      Rohan, Because he will not average more than 65 for the season if you are lucky.
      McDonough because he is a non playing rookie stagnant on the bench not making anything.
      I am surprised Rohan is playing this week he has a knee problem, Could cop the vest or be late withdrawal.

      Either way they both need to go probably McDonough first.


    • Derek says:

      I think Rohan is still in the swans best 22. he is a perfect bench cover, especially during the bye rounds.

  45. WombatsFC says:

    If anybody knows the price change formula including how to calculate the MN (magic Number) can they please post it here.

    I've tried calculating the MN by dividing the 3 lowest rookie price points (not played yet prices) by their Breakeven and the figure ranges from 5332 to 5389.

    • Ocker says:

      Wombat. All I can tell you at this stage is that FFGenie uses 5043.9003
      Break Evens on this site are different to ffgenie.
      You probably already know that BE's change after round 5 I think it is and then it drops in the range of 4980 in round numbers. That is of course depending on Champion Data changing that this year but I am not aware of that at this stage.
      I do have the formula from last year's BE's but have not tried it on this years yet I will have a look after lunch and get back to you if that is any help.


      • Ocker says:

        Price Change Formula 2013


        EG: assume round 3 score of 120

        ((178+99+120) x 5140) – $740,500
        ————————— = – $15,100

        I made a calculator in excel last year that also does BE's at the same time as well as give you prices depending on assumed round 3 score. Havn't bothered this year yet.
        There seems to be variations on every site I have looked so I am waiting till after round 5 when things are more settled.
        If you can keep it on the quiet I will give you an email address to contact and I will send you a copy of the calculator I made last year which was accurate to within 2 points over all price ranges.


  46. rosco_peco says:

    First trade is Ryder to Mumford… No brainer! but stuck with trade no. 2. Options as follows;

    (1) Rohan – Zorko (no fwd bench cover)
    (2) Z. Merrett/Kennedy Harris – J. Merrett (i'm like $5k short of Zorko when trading one of these guys)

    Cheers Community, best of luck over the weekend! Can get any worse than last round.

  47. Jai says:

    number 1 definitely

  48. Jimmy says:

    i have got Jamie elliot, Mcdonough, rohan, dale thomas, cluery,

    thinking about getting the likes of ; zorko, ambrose, matt thomas and possible jaensch (not that keen on him but a possibility)

    what should i do fellas

    would appreciate your thoughts jock!!


  49. Derek says:

    the problem with getting players like Zorko, swallow, Thomas etc just for their price rise this week, is once you have them in your team and you get a nice price rise, unless you are willing to get rid of them within 3 weeks (cash in the price rise) their price will start to fall as the high scoring weeks drop out of their calculations. A couple of average weeks and they are back near what you paid for them.

    Only consider the rookies for cash generation, not the mid price players unless you have a long term liking for them.

    • Beady Eye says:

      This is where I think Thomas is a different proposition than the other two.

      Zorko and Swallow both tick the boxes for emerging premiums – third year breakout potential, new position/role, etc. Even when they fall off from their current scoring rates, there's every reason to think they'll still finish in the top 10 defenders/forwards by season's end.

  50. Krazee-Eyez Killa says:

    Have gone with trading out Michie for Polec, and have brought in Steven May to replace Tomahawk (who will probably go out and kick 10 this week to stick it up me). Wish I'd never gone with him to begin with. May is set rise in price by around 60k this week, and has looked the goods early. Banking on him to keep it going

    • Beady Eye says:

      Reckon you might be in for disappointment with May. Plays a lockdown style and hasn't shown high-scoring potential previously.

      Good for a cash grab but not much more IMO.

      • Krazee-Eyez Killa says:

        Not really backing him to be a stayer in my side. More so after the cash for now, and considering he's on the bubble, and the amount I'll save downgrading to him from Tomahawk, it works out to be a 100k+ win for me. DEF/FWD eligibility doesn't hurt either.

        Racking up 122 against Freo last week can't be ignored

        • Beady Eye says:

          Well it can if you watched the game and saw the way he scored that 122 (ie. a scrappy game played in the wet with lots of hacked kicks forward, meaning plenty of intercept marks to be had).

          But I can see your logic, and it’s a fair enough trade if it’s purely to generate cash.

  51. Josh says:

    Any Port fans know if we have seen the last of Tom Clurey? Not even an emergency this week with the ins .

    • Ocker says:

      Josh not a Port fan but I still have Clurey on bench for another week at least and using him as loophole for emergency score.
      I did read somewhere that he is a possibility to play again in the near future, Probably getting a bit more experience in the SANFL. (Take that for what you will but he is gone next week for mine)
      Handy as loophole at moment, Put Langford as emergency if I am happy with his score swap Clurey for Langdon get Langford's score. (Sandi Vice if happy Clurey is Captain as well)

      Hope that helps.

    • Pieman1978 says:

      KK is on the bubble next week so I’m keeping Clurrey till then. If KK looks good he takes clureys spot. At the moment he’s a loophole

  52. Wattsieesq says:

    Hi Community,

    I know that I shouldn't trade out premiums so early, but I'm pretty happy with my rookies.

    I have Barlow and am considering benching him for a week as Watson for me is the natural replacement and is projected to go up by only $20k, so leaving the trade for the week should be ok. My trade would then be to bring in Swallow for Enright. Both have R8 bye so it works with my structure. What does the community think?


    • Beady Eye says:

      Watson is likely to cop the Crowley tag next week, so maybe hold off for a little longer.

    • Ocker says:

      If you are going for overall win Wattsie you can't afford to have that sort on money on the bench.
      You must have very good cover for him.

      Just a thought.

  53. Jack says:

    What trade should i do between Kennedy-Harris for Ambrose OR Leuenberger for Mumford/Hickey. Im worried about Trent West who seems to be playing a fair bit in the ruck. Thoughts would be appreciated

    • Pieman1978 says:

      Mumford mate. If you can do 2 the Ambrose trade also sounds good

      • Jack says:

        Thanks! The other trade i'm doing this week is Michie to Tyson, Tyson's too good to pass up on. Thanks again!

  54. Big Janks says:

    Should I trade:

    1) Higgins and Caddy for Zorko and Ambrose


    2) Cox and Caddy for Zorko and Mummy

    Higgins and Caddy will never be keepers. Just a way to score some points and to make money a small amount of money. I was $4K away from being able to do Caddy and Rohan in option 1- which would have been a no brainer. Could Ambrose be a sub or an Emergency this week?

    Cox to Mummy could be argued as a sideways trade. I don't want to chase 2 weeks of points but the fact is that Mummy will make good money and Cox is likely to lose some. Also with Callum playing- It looks like neither Cox nor Nic Nat will be the dominant 115pt/game rucks in the early part of this year.

    I would consider Zorko to be a keeper and must trade in this week. It's either I do it with him and Ambrose to make some coin. Or him and Mummy to get another dominant ruck.


    • Beady Eye says:

      I'm contemplating the same Cox-Mummy trade myself, but getting Zorko in and moving on non-producing rookies has taken priority this week.

      Probably can't hurt to give both rucks another week to assess their scoring potential.

      • Big Janks says:

        Yes. That is the conundrum. Cox is playing the Saints in Perth against an injured Hickey. But Mummy is also playing Melbourne. I'm really worried Ambrose wont play and that I could save my trade for next week. Blah.

    • Derek says:

      I think Ambrose is only 1 bad game away from not being in their best 22. Bomber even said last week that he was about to sub Amrose off until he kicked a goal. The fact that he was being considered as a vest candidate is a worry for me. If Rohan is fit he is in their best 22

  55. Jeff says:

    Looking to generate some cash to upgrade my F5 position shortly, so have gone Swan to Murphy and was planning to do D Thomas to Tyson. But I still have Clurey as my D6 and he obviously isn't playing so is it more important overall to trade him to Georgiou or to generate more cash by trading Thomas so I can offload Gary Rohan soon?

    • Fabian says:

      KK, Laidler and Webster will all play their 3rd games in round 4, so you could trade Clurey out next week and you won't miss out on their respective price rises. Only issue is that they are a bit more expensive than Clurey.

    • Bruce says:

      Clurey to Georgiou is the way to go!

    • Ocker says:

      Trades look sound to me.
      I am using Clurey as a loophole this week,
      If you have Langford put him on bench as emergency if you are happy with his score swap clurey onto ground replacing with rookie you don't think will make better than Langford score.
      Sandi as VC if happy Clurey is Captain as well if not stick to original Captain.


  56. Fabian says:

    Love the Podcost jock! My SC game has improved so much since I jumped on board at the start of last year.
    Big thanks to yourself and all the other community members who have been helping me out for this season.

    This week I've had the following issues
    DEF: Hurn injured & Clurey not playing
    MID: Fyfe suspended and not having Tyson (have 5 rookies in Aish,Polec, Dunstan Templeton and Ellis)
    Ruck: Luenberger low on output, probably due to west
    FWD: Danger/Buddy/Caddy/Wright under performing, HIggins & JKH & ROhan not looking like generating cash.

    Have gone for the trades of :
    Hurn -> Janesch
    Rohan -> Zorko

    Reasoning was that if I leave hurn on the bench, I have 3 onfield rookies in langfors/mcdonald and langdon. Thinking that one of those rookies is only going to put out a score of 50 and that if Janesch could give me hopefully an extra 40-50 onfield points. It also puts some cash in the kitty.

    Reason for going Rohan to Zorko is to get another keeper. Choose Rohan over Higgins, Caddy, Wright and Buddy because i think:
    Wright will have a good run over the next 5
    Caddy will average 85 and will give average output without dropping in price
    Higgins will slowly generate cash
    Buddy will come good (I bloody hope so!)

    Didn't trade in Mumford because I think I can can get Nic Nat in a few weeks if Leuy continues his form and Leuy will still generate more points than other problems. Didn't go for A FWD rookies because I have no faith in any of them ( Ambrose the risk of the vest?) and I will get enough cash from mid rookies without having tyson.

    Thoughts community?? Rank over league.

    • Ocker says:

      Fabian, You do have problems mate.

      To start with I think along the line of guns and rookies this year because they are available.
      That being said it is very important to make the right trades this week.

      I like the Rohan to Zorko trade that is a keeper.

      Forget Jaensch you are creating yourself more problems and you have enough, Get rid of mid-priced players don't buy them. Trades are like gold don't waste them.
      Don't worry about Hurn he is not playing so his price won't change this week, Consider trading him next week.
      Consider trading Fyfe for Tyson and banking cash for upgrades to guns next week. Keep your money on the ground not in the bank you need to keep generating the points and having the best rookies for cash.

      Fyfe to Tyson
      Wright to Zorko These trades = scores and cash.

      This should give you a good bank balance for next week to upgrade more mid-price players to guns.
      If Fyfe only had one week yes I would keep him but I don't think you can afford to miss cash generating rookies like Tyson.
      I can only see 7 forwards are you missing one?

      Hope this helps mate.

    • Ocker says:

      Fabian, Another option is.
      Forget Zorko this week if you are worried about your back-line I have Clurey as well with my own problems.

      Fyfe to Tyson
      Hurn to a GUN of your choice. NO mid-priced players.

      Use the LOOPHOLE with Clurey if it suits.
      That should leave you with a playing rookie on the bench with Clurey.
      Make that rookie Langford as reserve he is playing tonight.
      If Langford scores well and you are happy to have it put Clurey on the ground to get Langford's score and bench who you think is your weakest rookie.
      That is what I am doing tonight.
      I have made Sandi VC if I am happy to accept his score Clurey will be my Captain as well If I am not happy I will leave the Captain as is.

      Hope this helps without confusing you too much.

  57. Cam says:

    Everyone fielding Dom Tyson? Will GWS put a lot of thought into making sure he doesn't kick? Or, ain't no body got time for dat?

    • Jesse says:

      I dont think they will, there more focused on hitting there targets this week, and getting there structures right.

  58. Derek says:

    Warnock must be considered now. Is anyone considering him instead of Mummy etc.

  59. Josh says:

    should i get rid of rohan or higgins for lachie hunter? i will have 100k left if i got with rohan and 200k with higgins

  60. Pieman1978 says:

    Think I’m going through with the Cotchin to Matt Thimas trade. There is risk but I will get to full

    Premium faster. And that’s the name of the game! He could become Swan for peanuts. And liking Buddy to Zorko. Just can’t stand KPF’s anymore.

    • Ocker says:

      Sounds okay to me Pieman.


    • Gee Force says:

      Yes Pieman, smart move I did the trade earlier in the week. I was going to trade out mitchell but decided to swap crouch to Langdon, then swap mitchell to the midfield ,move Langdon to the back line and traded in mat Thomas to the mid as well.

      Love the new podcast, would to be at crouching ones Gym for the cage fight

  61. BCHawks says:

    Hawthorn has taken the gamble and Luke Hodge is playing tonight! GO HAWKS!!!

  62. Raj says:

    which 2 of these trades should i do this week to beat the price changes?

    1. Out – Rohan In – Ambrose
    2. Out – Daisy In – Dom tyson or Matt thomas
    3. Out – Franklin In – Zorko
    4. Out – Mitchell In – Swallow
    5. Out – Goldstein In – Mumford

    Any advice appreciated, cheers !

    • Dean says:

      Okay i will post some of my opinions on these trades.
      Firstly I dont think you can afford to look past either Matt Thomas or Dom Tyson, I myself can only get one of them this week, but if you have opportunity you need to take one of them.

      Secondly, I dont think there is much rush to get mitchell out, he will play this week, he is a proven premium dont be scared off by what jock said in his podcast, stick with him!

      Yes Rohan is having a slow start, worth it to downgrade to another rookie that might get the vest in games, I cant say that i would prioritize it.

      Goldmember, definetely needs to go, Mummy doing wonders so far, I feel like you should lock that trade in this week will give you cash in the chest, as well as give some cash generation and higher point out put.

      Second trade should be used to get Tyson or Thomas in.

      • Raj says:

        thanks mate really helpful reassuring some of my thoughts, the only wonder i have is goldmembers injury will it linger and effect his scores long term because otherwise he is a proven premium and should bounce back thus saving a trade.
        how do you see ambrose's job security ashby and a few other rookies playing alongside in essondons team this week looks as though theres a few before him that look like potential vests

    • Danners16 says:

      2 and 3 I had a problem with Dom Tyson or Matt Thomas but I think Dom Tyson, more experience and no competition unlike Thomas who has Daniel Jackson

  63. Josh says:

    Clurey is getting the sack. Thoughts on Clay Cameron (GCS)[Def] $123,900? On the bubble, rnd1:50 rnd2:52 and named onfield.

    • Pieman1978 says:

      I’d hold off & have a look at KK. Could be a gun

    • The benchmark says:

      I think I’m going for clay aswell. He has had 7 and 11 possession games and still pushed out 51. Whatch him have a big game this week.

      • Dools says:

        Hi lads what is this players B/E?? scores of 50 for 123K are Good real good!!!!

  64. Pieman1978 says:

    1 & 5 Raj

  65. Rig says:

    Who is more crucial to have? Zorko or Swallow??

    • Dean says:

      Swallow In my opinion, feel like he will play more consistent football.

    • Danners16 says:

      Zorko is more likely to get back to form like those years ago and we haven't seen enough of Swallow yet

  66. Dean says:

    I have a bit of a dilemma community,
    I have decided to trade out cotchin and viv mitchie, and look to pick up zorko and Tyson or Thomas, The problem i am facing here is, do i look past thomas as acting premium for 250k and pick up the rookie tyson, or do i accept my losses and take thomas, and be made to pay up to 80-100k more on tyson? thoughts?

    • Pieman1978 says:

      Tough one but I’d probably take Tyson on that one. He might be better for Bye rounds

      • Dean says:

        I actually went and took both Tyson and Thomas, and will look to pick up zorko next week, purely as he is going up the least in value

  67. max von muffman says:

    I ask your able assistance! Please help a spud in need!!! Before you ask, my strategy is cash generation early and then use the cash to get in the Pendles/abletts etc a little later. I am not going for overall rank… I just want to beat my friends…. anyhoo… your advice is welcome.

    D: hanley, mcveigh, mitchell, suckling mcdonald, webster langdon georgiou
    M: beams cotchin polec ttyson dunstan shiels Dthomas rockliff ellis caddy
    R: sandi pyke currie derrickx
    F: martin dangerfield mitchell roughead wright rohan mccarthy o'brien.

    I want Swallow. I like M Thomas for his determination and run. Both these guys generate a bit of cash.
    Was thinking: Wright – Thomas, Webster – Swallow.

    • Dools says:

      G day Max', Webster was subbed off (Thigh injury) in round 1 scored a healthy 56 (3rd quarter). Round two is the one score that will carry over to round 5 in Webby's case as he missed round 2. HOLD!!! The strategy of having Cash Cows all peaking at the same time is BAD.. He showed enough in R2 to warrant a place in the squad as a COW….Move Caddy to Front line to replace Wright or Rohan, Get on Dunstan. Can Play Job Security is High and will make you a quick fire $$$doller$$$. Wins are nice early but round 2 is for corrections and cows are the correction you require in order to last the season. It's about doing enough in your case to qualify in the top half of the league and having the CASH and Trades left to Play the GF So what if they beat yuo early in the season….He who laughs last ,laughs loudest my friend!

      • max von muffman says:

        Dools… you're a legend! Thanks for taking the time.

        Now, I have Dunstan in there already… but I still really want Swallow… how about forgetting M Thomas altogether and keeping Webbie as you suggest… but…. move Wright to the mid and grab swallow.

        Although I like Wright, I like Swallow more.

        • Dools says:

          Hi again Max, Sorry for missing Dunstan in your line up. You Say " move Wright to the mid and grab swallow. Although I like Wright, I like Swallow more. " DPP maintained but I fear for his output now that teams know who he is and that score is very lop sided as it was a poor day weather wise with lots of intercepts across the backlines Nah! still think he is the new G.Boughburnmanton.. A far better trade for points in opinion would be Grimms or L. Dunn. New Coach New Possession Footy .
          A word on he side : Your mids Watch Cotch without "Lids this is the first time for him and the 1st missed game from lids in 7 years (140 games) could be the barometer you need regarding his pick!

    • Pieman1978 says:

      Maxy forget about Swallow. Your problems are up forward. Think Ambrose, Zorko, even Higgins if your short on cash to shore up that line. Good luck mate

      • max von muffman says:

        I have listened Pieman1978 and Dools…. Wright out – Zorko in. O'brien out – Ambrose in.

        Cash generation, as well as securing my forward… as well as maintaining a DPP advantage.

        I will keep on the look out for Cotch… are you saying he'll go better, or worse?

        • Dools says:

          Hi Max does it matter, you are not paying attention to me so go with your gut mate

          • WombatsFC says:

            Hi dools,
            I'm paying attention mate.
            I want to dump Hodge & Wright to get Swallow & Zorko and keep a few $ in the bank to cover this weeks injuries.
            I currently have
            Hodge,mitchel, Mcveigh, enright,langdon,langford,georgiou, and clurey
            Sandi, HayMac,Nuffa,Nuffa

            Bestow upon me your wisdom

            • Dools says:

              Hey' bats
              Hodge $521K Scores 98 and 34 AVG 66 Wright $384K Scores 84 an 51 AVG 67
              $700K to play with Hmmmmm… Can't be done mate unless you have coin in the bank! and then you are saying goodbye to savings. Zorko is a lock for you so money well spent but swallow is a stepping stone he will let you down mate and for the small gain ($ wise) made for getting him has to be offset with the prospect of him being a future trade (and Potentially less money then now because you will want it that way) He Is A Must Performer ……I am not building a team on him mate and neither should you…Good Luck

              • WombatsFC says:

                Thanks Dools.
                I have 86k in the bank and after the Hodge>Swallow and Wright>Zorko I will have 115k.
                I reckon I must trade Hodge this week because I'm not confident that both Mitchell and Enright will play this week and I can't eat donuts due to a genetic susceptibility to diabetes.
                Who do you reckon I should look at for Hodge instead of Swallow?

                • Dools says:

                  Sorry Wombats I just saw you post So Hodge is gone…I missed the message and my reply is to late. Who did you en up opting for mate

                  • WombatsFC says:

                    My indecision was compounded by Roos' statement that he's gonna change the Demons team structure which meant no Grimms or Dunny so I chased the cash and got the MudNest builder (Swallow)

                    • Dools says:

                      I hope it comes off for you buddy I think Grimms might be a Keeper but that's a trade for next week my ól China. Good luck for the Weekend

                    • WombatsFC says:

                      Thanks for the Goodwishes. They obviously are a double edged sword. I traded in Swallow & Zorko for Wright & Hodge. Swallow is kicking Zorkos butt and Wright got 100.

  68. The benchmark says:

    Is clay Cameron worth thought?

  69. SC Lover says:

    Need some advice community!

    Bit confused if I should trade this week or not as realistically I don't need to trade, the only thing I can think of is:

    Clurey > Langford purely for cash generation but then I think I can use Clurey this week as a loop hole in the defence? is the loop hole idea worth having and missing out on Langford? cause I don't want to be stuck with Clurey down the end as there is a very limited amount of defensive rookies to come through..


    JKH > Ambrose again purely for cash generation < is this worth a trade?

    please help!

    • Pieman1978 says:

      G’day SC lover. If JKH isn’t playing I don’t mind that trade. If you have cover I’d wait & have a look at KK this week. Debuted last week over in Freo. Baptism of fire! But the word is he’s a gun & finds the pill easily. Last NEAFL game over 50 touches

    • Dools says:

      Hey SC. NO need to trade then NO Trade rnd 2 is for Rookie corrections or injuries. Trades are the gold coin in this game mate hold fast!!!!

  70. canman1306 says:

    Trade 1 Ryder->Mumford is Locked in
    not so sure about trade 2
    Option 1 :Should I trade Enright or Mitchell to Swallow? for Less cash and a similar output.

    Option 2 : Trade Rohan Down to Ambrose for some extra Cash for early upgrades. although This trade means I will have to Play Lewis Taylor F6

    Option 3 : Suckling -> Jaensch for some Quick cash and more than likely a better scoring output


    • Dean says:

      I think the best option would be to trade out enright for Swallow, I was never really sold on enright, but think Mitchell is not worth getting rid of atm, only 1 game played being tagged by Tom rockliff and still scored fairly well.

    • Snake says:

      Option 3 IMO.
      Jaensch looks the goods this year with Ricky Hendo out, should get plenty of the pill. He is the Matt Thomas of defense! as far as price and points are concerned.


    • Pieman1978 says:

      Don’t trade Enright. Waste of a trade. Rohan to Ambrose I like. Jeanch is a sideways trade. Might pay off, might not. Risky. If it was me I’d take a price rise from the pig this week & entertain a down grade to KK next week if he’s good this week. Good luck

  71. The Ranger says:

    Clureys getting the flick this week and i have a bit of spare cash……any thoughts on Jack Frost?

  72. BlakeyP says:

    Hey all

    Was thinking of these trades and would like some input.

    Caddy to Zorko

    Suckling to Swallow

    I have JKH and Rohan that may need attending to but dont trust any of the other FWD rookie’s (Got L.Taylor). All other line rookies GTG


    • Pieman1978 says:

      G’day Blakey. Bullseye mate, love those trades. Only fwd rookie worth thinking about is Ambrose. If you don’t need him smash the trade button & sit back watch the points come in! Good luck mate

      • BlakeyP says:

        Thx mate

        Def doin the Zorko trade. Jus little hesitant about swallow trade cause suckling looks like he is on the up and it leaves me with no money left when something goes wrong next week. Mmmmmm the joys of SC
        Don't like ambrose think he will get drop this week or the next.

        Thx for the feed back

    • Daniel says:

      Impey doin okay

  73. bbb says:

    Guys is Tyson a must have now

  74. Derek says:

    not unless you have someone who you must get rid of.

    There will be another Tyson come along later in the season.

  75. Jarrad says:

    What a pleasant surprise, 2 podcasts in 1 week, talk about being spoilt. Hope this keeps up for the year!

    Have a few issues this week. Have Barlow, Enright, Mitchell, Michie in my team.

    Will most likely trade Barlow and Enright. If Mitchell isnt withdrawn from the teams before the game today may change my priorities.

  76. steve says:

    i am contemplating HODGE to GRIMES and Cotchin to Pendles (the mids would then include Ablett, Pendles, Watson, Beams, Wines, Selwood, Polec and Tyson……but am i getting premiums in to soon?

    • Pieman1978 says:

      You can never get premiums too soon. Just need to load up on cows to get more. Don’t know about hodgey to grimes. Swallow better option. Cotchin to Pendles hmmmmm don’t mind it

  77. tim says:

    Out of Caddy and Higgins should i trade out for Zorko?

    • Danners16 says:

      Why should you take Caddy out? Got to give him a chance, Higgins BURNMAN got to trade

  78. Jimmy says:

    elliot for thomas and mcdonnough for ambrose?? thoughts

    and who should be beach: dale thomas, matt thomas or ellis?

    and who should be beach : rohan, taylor, ambrose orJKH?

    please give thoughts! 🙂

  79. Sully321 says:

    Hey community,
    Don't really need to make a trade this week except I'm worried that Rohan won't even beat his break even of 14 this week so I'm thinking him down to Ambrose to give me some extra cash

    • Danners16 says:

      Try and perfect your team before prices go up, sounds good Rohan to Ambrose

  80. Sully321 says:

    Hey community
    Anyone heard about mcevoy being a late withdrawal

  81. jks7 says:

    who would you reckon Zorko or wines

    • WombatsFC says:

      Both if ya can get them. The DPP of Zorko makes him more attractive but Olly could ave 110 this season as well, he only dropped off l/y due to getting worn out. This year he's bigger, stronger, and fitter and last week he showed Danger what a real centre clearance beast looks like.

      • Super_Freak says:

        Yeah spewin I didn't pick him this year. He looks like a real breakout player this season. The Magnificent is going to have a stellar season too!

    • Daniel says:

      Port are a super fit team, might get a bit of trash stats

  82. Sully321 says:

    Mcevoy out keep or trade
    Got Derrick as cover but Mumford May be a nice improvement?

  83. Sean says:

    Ripping podcast fellas!
    Who would you keep out of Rohan and Kennedy-Harris, when trading to Ambrose. Both similar breakevens, Rohan priced higher but better job security.
    Really appreciated!

  84. Pieman1978 says:

    Mcevoy out. Might be an opportunity to wave him goodbye. Mumford a good replacement

  85. Shaun the Sheep says:

    Need help with my final trade this week
    rohan out and ambrose in
    but not sure if i should get rid of daisy or crouch to bring in tyson
    is crouch going to be a gun?? and will daisy get better as the season progresses?? or do i get rid of one of them
    i already have pendles ablett murphy vince beams aish, polec, dunstan and crouch

    • Shaun the Sheep says:

      or is it worth sideways trading grundy for someone else like hickey???

    • WombatsFC says:

      Absolutely no reason to bring in Crouch yet wait a couple of games and see if he is likely to play regularly not just bring him in when Crows are suffering form and injury issues.

    • WombatsFC says:

      Oops sorry Shaun I misread that.
      Definitely get rid of Crouch for Tyson

  86. ilikepie says:

    trade or keep mcevoy?

    • WombatsFC says:

      Depends on whether or not you have a backup. Donuts make a big difference

      • ilikepie says:

        have derickx as backup, will he be out for long?

        • WombatsFC says:

          I don't know whats wrong with him. He might just be sick. When fit he's obviously gonna play. Mummy looks like a massive Eye Fillet edged in Bacon and topped with mushroom sauce, VERY Tasty

    • Pieman1978 says:

      I’d trade! Go the mummy

  87. Daniel says:

    Who should I put on field out of Rohan, Taylor, Impey? And who emg? Damn the threat of the sub vest!!!

    • WombatsFC says:

      Impey's low score last week was due to playing on the best small forward in the game. Sydney don't have an Eddie Betts so I'd play Impey

  88. WombatsFC says:

    McEvoy late withdrawal for Hawks put the VC on Sandi if you haven't already

    • Pieman1978 says:

      The old late withdrawal. Same reason I have 2 kids! VC sandi it is

      • Dools says:

        DAMN McEVOY to Bloody Mummy and another trade later down the track Damn!!!! Calf soreness ….Bull sh1t…. Freo to win by 18 . (I went mummy only because of you Peter Higginbottom!!)

        • throttlefinger says:

          Mummy makes too much sense, Dools. Tried to figure out a reason not to go there. But logic hurricane overcame me. Had to do. Had to do.

  89. Michael says:

    Hi Community,

    I've decided to trade McDonough for Ambrose and Caddy for Zorko. I had $80,500 in the bank which is now down to $11,500. I'm happy with the trades but not so happy about low bank.

    Team now for this week, including C, VC & E:
    DEF: McVeigh / Langdon / Enright / Suckling / McDonald / Smitch (Langford (E), Cameron)
    MID: GAJ, Beams, Murph, Polec, JJK, Dunstan, XEllis, Daisy (Fyfe, Cunningham (E))
    RUC: Sandy (V), King (C) (Pyke (E), Derickx)
    FWD: Zorko, Dusty, Titch, Danger, Higgins, Ambrose (Rohan (E), JKH)

    Will throw the C on GAJ if Sandy gets less than 130.

    My only question is – do I have too little in the bank?

    • Michael says:

      I've got an awesome bye structure too – 8/8/14! Geez love to keep that going until the byes!

    • Danners16 says:

      Higgins to Zorko, Caddy is more reliable if you can afford it

  90. Big Janks says:

    Cheers to Jock and the community.

    Cheers to starting a new job on Monday.

    Cheers to having Friday off and being able to watch my hawks at 2am on Thursday night.

    Cox to Mummy
    Caddy to Zorko

    Big week for Big Janks! Carn the Hawks!

  91. Big Benny says:

    Dear Jock

    Two podcasts a week is pure awesome. I love ya fellas and love the idea of the second podcast

    Kind Regards,
    Big benny

  92. Danners16 says:

    I see most of the community is getting rid of Caddy. I don't see what is wrong with him and people are keeping Burnman Higgins instead of Caddy. Why?

    • Derek says:

      Caddy hasn’t scored as well as he has been playing. A lot to do with JSelwood and StvieJ taking a lot of the points. They won’t get 140+ every week. Caddy should do very nice and I’m keeping him

    • throttlefinger says:

      I have him, Danners. And in truth would consider ditching him if I didn't have Wright. Reason being is that Zorko is someone you'll probably keep for the rest of the year. Caddy not. And his performance has been less than inspiring…meaning a slow road to get the value you need to make a good up/downgrade.

      But Higgins should be priority as well. He is on my team. Hope he gives me 85+ to stay aboard.

      Are you a GWS member? Been one for last two seasons.

      • Danners16 says:

        Yeah I see the point but some people are keeping Higgins instead of Caddy, I probably would trade out Caddy to someone like Zorko though

        • throttlefinger says:

          I'm keeping Higgins. You should shift Zorko for Caddy. Apologies for the confusion.

          • Danners16 says:

            I don't have Higgins I just saying every else is getting rid of Caddy before Higgins which is a bit suprising

            • throttlefinger says:

              Not really. Big price difference. Considerably harder going Caddy to Zorko. Not a lot of great buys around Higgins. Hunter the only one (and one I wanted but failed to put in my R1 side…d'oh!)

  93. Derek says:

    11 hawks score 100+

    No massive scores but ultra consistent

    Mitchell a lazy 114 and spent most of the last quarter on the bench.

    Carn the Hawks. Bring on the Cats in 2 weeks

    • Pieman1978 says:

      Looking scary good. If that’s the 2nd best team god help everyone else! Carn the pies

  94. Derek says:

    Should I play Langdon or Georgia

    Should I play Ellis or Dunstan

    Should I play Rohan or Impey

  95. Daniel says:

    Will Impey cop the vest?