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The weekend chin wag

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Jock Reynolds - The Father of Fantasy

Back to reality.

Last week most of us charged over the trench and were bolting like footloose and fancy free gazelles towards Johnny Turk amidst a shower of Supercoach and AFL Fantasy points.

This week so far: Mitchell OUT. Rockliff OUT. Ryder injured. Hodge injured. Roughead rubbish. Shiels. Langford. The list goes on.

Some of us have received our first early flesh wounds. We’ve hit the ground. Bullets fizz overhead.

Let’s start the discussion – how are you getting on this week?

 

 


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Ben

Do I take a zero or trade webster to swallow this week? Any opinions apprecited.

Ben

Thanks Jock

Michael C.

Wonder if I should take Smurf's 121 or just stick the C on Gary. I think Alert will probably have another average plus day with the dockers, so he will end up with it.

Shinboner

I love ya Jock, but I wouldn't steer from Gary this week! Hasn't dropped under 135 points against Freo since 2009.

Wattsieesq

I go by the 130 cap loop hole. I wouldn't accept 120 if you have GAJ or Pendles

Michael C.

When I was Mitchell out, pulled the trigger on Clurey to Langdon. I was going to wait for sub's, but with Webster as well,who I'll give another week to, thought I'd just do it. Now unsure whether to go JJK to Lee Crass straight away or wait until next week. Don't want to get caught out having Impey, Webster, JKH of none of them are playing.
Down a bit this week with Simpson, Shiels, Langford.

sputnik

why trade clurey after 1 game? Langdon got 100 first round and probably wont ton up again. dont waste trades.

JJM

Now! What do we do with Mitchell. Would a sideway trade be an option this week or wait for the rookies prices to go up next week.

Fourbells

Based on this weekend scores to date, there are no stallions running loose to replace Mitchell

JJM

Thanks for the word of advice Jock really appreciate it.

I'll have to suss out how Hanley annd McV plays this weekend. I have Swallow and Bartel in my side already and not keen on Suckling at this early stage.

JJM

Pretty rapt at the moment played 3 Watson, Murphy and Martin all scoring tons and 19 players to go.

canman1306

377 Of 5
Watson Martin 100s
a 70 out of Suckling
And Ryder and Langford πŸ™

Thoughts on Trades next week
Ryder -> Mumford
Kennedy- Harris/Taylor -> Ambrose

Mick

Jock – tell us about Webster he's your man . Trade next week – Trade this week – keep – ???

Mike

Yeah, what is the word out of Seaford on his injury?

Sam

Hey jock I have got Mitchell and sulking what do I do

The Canaries

I’d give Mitch the boot
Didn’t perform well round one, and Clarko has said he’s under a cloud for round 3 as well

Shinboner

21 disposals is a decent return in my books. Injury is my only concern.

The Canaries

Should have also added that Hawks have Freo… One word for you; Crowley

Tom McVilly

G’day community thoughts on getting rid of Gary Rohan for someone like lachie hunter from the bulldogs or do I use the money in my bank to get chapman?

The Canaries

I’d personally go to Chapman… He’s looking like a solid premo choice at this stage

Cheeseman

I'm glad I made the corrective trade last week, as it's already looking like I'll need to trade out Mitchell next round, which puts a dampener on my plans . At least McDonough is the only rookie not playing in my squad

throttlefinger

I was rash this week in moving McDonough out. Should've listened to gut and got rid of Ryder. Oh well. Better learning these things in the early rounds.

The Canaries

Woefull weekend so far Jock πŸ™

As soon as I heard rumors of Mitchel’s calf I couldn’t hit the trade quick enough so I have made a rather necessary sideways trade pre game so I’ll still get an equivrlant premo score this week…phew, one plus.

I’ve had Shiels, Langford, Roughy, Cotchin …who were all rubbish.

Cotchin isn’t doing it for me. I’ve got Jobe in as well, who’s similar price and obviously has dominated the last two weeks on field and on SC as a comparison. So I’m eyeing off a possible downgrade this week before price changes from Cotch to someone the likes of Quadzilla (wines) or Treloar who possibly present more value for money and can put on a massive score. This will leave me plenty of cash to possibly upgrade a rookie elsewhere to at the very worst a fallen premo or I can sit tight with the cash as my rookies and structure elsewhere r pretty solid..

???

Thanks guys

Emma

I would not trade Cotch he got 118 in first round and tigers had their normal choke against blues.

tye

Even though cotchin didn’t score great he was still 2nd overall for possies.more often then not I reckon he will cover 100

Jimmy

Emg on JKH or Rohan?

The Canaries

Rohan… Melb against WC :/ I don’t see JKH getting a touch

WombatsFC

AArrrrggghhhh!!!!!

I got held up by a short tight skirt and a cheeky smile and whilst I was doing the Wombat mating dance I got 'Hawked'.
Turn on the telly a bit after half time and Mitchell aint playin, Hodge is subbed out, and Langford decides not to score.
I'm thinking that Rachael was a plant by that 'not so secret' C.I.A agent Throttlefinger.
I had Cotchin as well.
I may as well count this round as a bye and head back to the future Mrs Wombats house.

throttlefinger

All I have to say is Roughy, Ryder and Langford, Wombats. I was struck hard as well.

If it makes you feel better I had been using Webster to loop Langford with McDonald and inexplicably decided against and just put Webster on the bench and Langford in the game. Idiot!

WombatsFC

Good to know that you are sharing my pain. Sadly the Mitchell/Hodge problem is at least a 2-week problem and poses a significant structural problem. Quadzilla better tear the crows a new one.

coxy

How'd you go wombat? And I'm not talking SC scores…

WombatsFC

Hi Coxy,
Apparently having a face covered in fur is a massive turn-on for some women; particular for those who have erased their map of Tazzy.

medadsson

Mind on the job please Wombats, it's footy season now! The short skirt and long jacket can wait. By the way has she traded her MG for a white Chrysler La Baron?

WombatsFC

Keep your mind on your job medadsson, not on mine.

Dools

Ah the refuge of sex for the Wombat and a Map of Tassie mentioned too…Give it up for the 'Batman. Taking it for the team or the lack of effort from a team Cheers mate thanks

Bundybear

LOL

Pieman1978

If it’s a nice warm & cozy burrow get back in there Wombat!

Nick

i traded out mitchell for hodge!!!!!!!!!!! and copping a doughnut for webster with clurey and laidler out…….AND ITS ONLY ROUND 2 AARGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

WombatsFC

Bumma

Simon

O'Keefe v Treloar??

Brad

Treloar, will average more and cheaper!

Shinboner

Not sure what to expect from ROK this year. Treloar's pricing gives him my vote.

jstocker59

What do people think about Jackson Merrett at 266K – 102 and 77 thus far and a forward? Mitchell to Swallow, McDonough to Merrett? Bloody minded sideways trade thinking or worth doing?

Shinboner

Bomber Thompson would not stop talking about this guy in the off-season. Had him in my team all preseason until the final couple of days when I decided to go with Caddy instead. Miffed that I didn't end up going with him, but there ya go! Merrett will be solid this season.

jstocker59

Treloar Simon definitely

Danners16

Matt Thomas! Had a great game, thinking of bringing him into my midfield for V.Michie or X.Ellis depending on how they play. Thoughts?

Coxy

Get him in your side. He looks to be a consistent performer in that midfield and should get some pretty consistent scores all year. Great recruiting from Richmond

jstocker59

With no heart Cotchin and go missing Deledio around, Richmond needed someone with a spine and some guts.

WombatsFC

Thomas is averaging 119.5 at only 250k. If you have a midfielder priced over 350k averaging less than 120 you'd be mad not to downtrade. I definitely wouldn't trade another rookie for him though

The Canaries

“If you have a midfielder priced over 350k averaging less than 120 you’d be mad not to downtrade” this is exactly my thinking coming into round 3 with soft-under-pressure-Cotchin

WWW

120's a bit much Wombats. Thomas has started on fire but he's not going to keep up this output. His price rise will be huge however so if you can, try and get him in

Captain joc

Do I take a donut or trade clurey to geogiou? Or I could swing McDonald to the Mids and trade aish to enright? What are your thoughts

WombatsFC

Seriously?
You need to ask if you should trade a rookie who might not play again this year for another (cheaper) rookie who will probably play every game when doing it will prevent a Donut.

Go to the corner and put on the big cone shaped hat.

Captain joc

Just wanted other peoples thoughts wombat
I’ve got 317k sitting in the bank so I wanna upgrade McDonald for another premium output
I wanted enright but wouldn’t have enough my backs are Mitchell,Hanley, swallow, Langdon,Langford, McDonald (clurey, laidler)
Mids are Ablett,pendles, libba, beams, Tyson, Dunstan, aish, polec(Ellis, Michie)

HoganKill

You think Geogiou might play every game do you Wombats? What happens when Garland comes back in the next week or 2?
Oh yeh, Have you still got Naismith ahead of Derickx? hahaha

WombatsFC

Who is Garland? Yet another of the Melbourne 'Stars' who can't get on the field or when they do 'it just isn't their day'.
Must feel good to be the only person in the SC universe who's first draft squad was their starting squad, well done BoganKill.

HoganKill

You were giving poor advice to the community about Naismith and now looks like your doing it again! Who's Garland you say! Came 2nd in the b&f at the dees last year and will come straight in next week or week after. Doubt very much they'll play 7 defenders. Now tell me again….is Georgiou likely to play most games? Your an absolute spud! Stop commenting on every 2nd post with mediocre advice!

Logic

Idiot

HoganKill

Which part don't you agree on 'Logic'? Support your opinions with facts and let me know!

Shinboner

Never take a donut if possible.

HoganKill

Very true. But I'd take a few other players in front of Geogiou!

Captain joc

Like who hogankill?

HoganKill

McDonald, Langford & Langdon (which you have). Kolodashnij, C.Cameron (which you don't have, which provide better job security imo). Don't forget, Geogiou is a rookie. If Mitch Clark comes back when his spot on the LTI list expires. Guess what…….Geogiou is going back to the rookie list in 7 weeks time unless they get another long term injury. If Geogiou plays while Garland is back in next week or week after, I'd be staggered!

WombatsFC

Georgiou is not the only rookie defender cheaper than Clurey

Captain joc

Yeah but I’ve got most of the good ones that are playing so he looks the goods

Aaron

Is anyone sure that Mitchell will miss next round also?

WombatsFC

No Aaron it hasn't been confirmed but calf issues haven't historically been rectified by a single weeks rest. When players do come back too soon it ALWAYS turns into another 4 weeks or more.
I doubt very much that he will play next week and he might even miss the week after as well.

I'm keeping him for the moment but if he isn't named for round 4 he'll be traded.

Cheeseman

Same here, all my back line rookies are playing so I will hold Mitchell for 1 more week . His price isn't going to drop , so I would rather use my trades to finalise my rookies over the ground before price increases

Aaron

Might do the same thing myself, turning out to be a weekend of carnage. Thanks Wombats

Grod

have daisy as emergency loophole. Do i take his 92 or risk dunstan on the field?!

WombatsFC

Hi Grod,
92 in the bank is better than a rookie yet to play.

Shinboner

A bird in the hand.

JJM

I tend to agree with Wombat, but considering The Saints are up against GWS. Dunstan might repeat his score from last week. Worth taking a punt IMO he should score around 60-70.

Wattsieesq

Add the report hanging over Dusty and it's been a brutal weekend and it's only just started.

WombatsFC

Faaarrrrrkkkk! I forgot about that. Next I might struggle for 1900

Wattsieesq

Don't go doing anything rash just yet Wombat like down grading Dusty to burnman Higgins just because it's popular.

I agree JJM, he should get off but you never know.

JJM

I think he'll get off. The video is not clear wether he made contact or not. But MRP are bunch of morons so you never know.

derek

DEF: Mitchell, Hodge, Suckling, Mcdonald, Laidiler, Webster, Georgi, Langford.

I guess it could be worse, i could have had LRT.

JJM

Sorry Derek. Couldn't stop laughing at your defense. At least you found the funny side of it, of not having LRT it's what me laugh hard. I feel what you're feeling mate, I'd hate to in that situation.

derek

what is really funny, i traded out Guthrie to Hodge this week. You know Guthrie will score 100+ now

Pieman1978

Geez sorry Derek the SC gods bent you over this week! No lube either

vinnymac

I have Mitchell, Hodge, Hanley, McDonald, Langdon, Webster, Georgiou and Langford.
I probably will go Hodge to Swallow this week, then Webster to a rookie.

Ethan

What to do with Shane Savage? He's sub. Trade right now or hold until next week

Shinboner

Who are your subs? If you've got a Polec, Dunstan or Aish sitting on your pine, hold Savage on the bench and trade him next week for Matt Thomas.

derek

savage with a poor score last week and a certain poor score this week will take a massive price hit the following week.

You could get lucky and Saints have to make an early SUB

zimmerbd

Supercoach carnage!!

Jordan

Who should i bring on for rockliff?

T/U Eli tempelton (might get the vest)
T/U Jarman Impey (might be sub)
Comment: JHK (might be sub)

Shinboner

Impey of the three. The Adelaide clubs score well in Showdowns.

B-T

Leuenberger ankle roll?

mightymicks

Yeah I think so, but just wait until teams tomorrow, I have heard that also but it could just by an untrue rumour just floating around.

B-T

Just put Jacobs in for Leuey see how the setup looks without him… The game's not for another 45 mins but the bloody reverse trades isn't working!!

Super_Freak

Cant reverse trades one the round has started. Only prior to the first game.

tomc000

Set Mumford as captain looking good at half time. 89 points

Super_Freak

He smashed it!

Shinboner

Great captain choice! I wouldn't have the balls to do that.

Jordan

should i take dunstans 65 or punt it with james aish

Jordan

take the punt

Shinboner

I'm in the same scenario and I'm backing Aish in to top 80.

Mick

Take the 80

Shinboner

Dunstan scored 64. I'm backing Aish in top go the extra mile and score more than 80 vs Geel.

Rocksta

There's no 80

Rocksta

Punt

Vasco

I've got a dilemma. I've got Mumford as VC and I want to use the captain loophole on him. The problem is all my bench players are playing except for Currie and as Currie is emergency for the western bulldogs and kanga's game. Is it worth a risk going for captain loophole? What are the chances of Currie being an inclusion for the game?

mightymicks

Currie is a good chance to play, with Goldstein not being at 100%, its your choice but I wouldn’t risk it.

mightymicks

I know mummy score is good, but Currie is very likely to play so put it on someone else, don’t risk it.

benny

Have to agree with mightymicks, I’m in the same position as you, I’m putting the captain on beams.

sammyd

join my league 987297

Billy

So happy that KK isn't the sub tonight! Hope he can score 80+

Jimmy

Thank you everyone who laughed and scorned at me wanting to put N.Roo in my side. He’s too old, too expensive, Danger will better they said, silly me listened and went with Danger. Wish I had backbone sometimes.

Cyril

Who ended up going with M.wright?

Burn man is back

Shinboner

Stuck to Pittard like glue. Forward tag for much of the game.

Rocksta

Cyril, he's not back!

Douglas is back, which means his SC friendly role is over!

If you have him……….. ' Get him out'!!!

guesto

aah the importance of context…welcome.

crows are not that flash this year anyway.

cyril

i mean he is back to burn man…

Shinboner

We just might see Sandi break the league record for hitouts tonight!

Mebois

thinking of trading danger to may? it would give me cash and may looks really good plus danger will fall in price.

thoughts.

Emma

don't do it, I did that last year and danger went on to average 120

Mebois

i might trade franklin, i just dont like inconsistency, but i will might trade danger to n roo.

Shinboner

Try not to sideways trade, especially regarding someone of Danger's calibre.

Rocksta

I just got a call from Crouching's Slipper.

It is trying to find out where you live

Callum

Considering I had roughie and Ryde Mitchell and dangerfield, it’s not too bad. Had I had the c on pendles , I would be on close to 1900 with 4 left, but I had it on gaz not really thinking about the Crowley tag as he has scored 150+ a few times against dockers, so I only have 1720 points. Caddy, Hanley, Higgins and Tyson left to play for me

sputnik

mate if you had the C on pendles you would have scored an extra 61 pts.

Rhubarb_Ronin

Difference between C on Pendles and Ablett is 122 – basically an extra premium player!

Undies

The difference is only 61,still find it hilarious people all work out captain differences how you have….

Rocksta

Difference is 122!

If you have GAJ as Captain and Pendles as well, you get 242 + 182 = 424

If you have Pendles as Captain, and also have GAJ, you get 364 + 182 = 546.

Difference…….. 122.

Am I missing something?

Do you even math

Yes you are…..you have used pendles score 3x to get 546….

If you still cant figure it out then theres really no hope for you

Wow

You added Pendles captain score with another Pendles score

Rhubarb_Ronin

Swapped the C onto Pendles 2 minutes before the bounce. At the end of the first quarter I was kicking myself but boy what a superstar! 1534 with 9 to play – Langford, Dunstan and Danger my only disappointments so far. Mitchell on the bench as well. Usually my last minute changes backfire big time. Feeling like all that stands between me and 2300+ is Libba delivering and making the right choice between Kenedy-Harris and Lewis Taylor as F6. Will likely pick the first I know isn’t the sub!

sputnik

Is this your first year playing?

Pendles scored 61 more than GAJ so the difference is 61. Where did you come up with 122?? The difference isnt doubled- just in case you didnt know. The difference is 61 points.

GAJ as C 242 + Pendles 182 = 424

Pendles as C 364 + GAJ 121 = 485

So the difference is only 61 pts.

Undies

Isn’t it funny the amount of people who get this wrong

Rhubarb_Ronin

Second year playing, just first time being part of the community but thanks for explaining the sums.

Once it’s laid out it’s easy to see how straight forward it is and I feel a bit dopey for not seeing it and realising that it’s not a zero based calculation unless the premise was instead that a team had only one of the two players instead of both.. Still pretty glad I went with Pendles over Abblett.

sputnik

Either way it doesnt matter whether you had both in your team or not. Say you had the C on murphy and he scored 121, the difference would still be 61 because evryone still has a C whether it was GAJ or not. the main point is C difference isnt doubled.

That said, awesome C choice of Pendles!

rob

The c difference is still double. 182-121 =61 x 2 =122. If u have them both then rhe overall diference is still 61. As u get the pendles diference of his individual score which is 182. So 122 is the difference in score between your captains score! If u have pendles as non captain his 182 is counted once so u only missed the extra 61 points once not twice. As u have him once.. getting the 61 point difference back “once” not twice as he wasnt captain. Simplified.. if u have both its 61 diference. As u get pendles extra 61 once as nomal player once not twice. But the difference in their original score as captain is 122.

Deeman

Ablett scores 100
Pendles scores 200
difference is 100.
You get 300 if you name neither of them captain
400 if Ablett is captain (+100)
500 if pendles is captain (+200)
difference is 100 which is the difference between the 2 original scores.
Not double the difference.

Ben

Guys,

Keep the faith, remember the time honoured advice of uncle jock, this game is a marathon not a sprint.

So what if cotchin flunked, wright had a shocker, danger has a slow start. These guys will produce and ripen like a tasty peach on the tree of goodness.

All this hard work in research during the pre season will pay off, don't throw it away due to a Sunday night knee jerk reaction. Nothing worse than watching a dropped player rip it the following week.

All is good in the game, it's just trying to separate the wheat from the chaff, hold your line, save your trades and start feasting on the tasty scores to come in the following weeks, then when all others are scrambling for trades, leave them in your wake and shoot up,the leaderboard to victory.

Rocksta

Ben,

IMO……………. fair call on Cotch and Danger……. They are keepers.

Wright is not, and with Douglas back, you may as well get rid of him.

Remember, Keepers are Keepers, and as such should not be traded unless they are clealy injured or carrying an injury.

Every other player is fair game

Rocksta

How many people In the Community did I tell to leave Pendles out of their starting line up at their own Perril?

He is the super Elite…….. 33 possies for 182 SC points with only 1 goal.

Is that even possible!!!!!!!!

Go Pies

Undies

10 tackles 16 contested possessions is how you do it. The man is a freak Backs against the wall what a win by the pies, 2 weeks is a long time in football

Rocksta

Pendles is the Super Elite Freak…………..AKA. SEF!

Cyril

Glad I opted for him as captain over Gary

Cheeseman

If supercoach was golf, my golf clubs would be for sale on gumtree right now! This is a shit game,lol

throttlefinger

1721 with 6 left. Naming this "The Pathetic Round."

Saving grace is that I put the C on Pendles. He's not stop looking BEASTLY.

GarglesnarfFC

Nice work Throttle!

1460 with 7 left. Missing Mitchell and Rockliffe hurts, fwd line is looking sick with Danger, Franklin & Rohan stinking it up. Ambrose to come in for McDonough, gives me enough to turn Mitchie into MThomas. At least, that's the plan now πŸ™‚

throttlefinger

I traded out McD this week for Impey. Should've went with gut and dropped Ryder for Mummy. Lesson learned. Next week will be dealing out Paddy and probably dealing Webster for Swallow.

Tom

Dropped lobe to mumford and wacked on the C, gotta go with your gut.

Shinboner

Are you considering dropping Danger?

throttlefinger

Nope. Not a chance.

JJM

Nice one TF
I might have to trade S Mitchell for Dependlebury and worry about Round 8 when it comes. I'm missing out on 100+ every week.

Big Janks

Two slow starts to the year in a row for danger. Note to self for 2015

throttlefinger

Funny thing is Big Janks I had him out until the final minute. Threw him in. Data and schedule said to do otherwise. Big lesson there. He'll come around and reward us later.

Tom

ANY INSIGHT WELCOME, PLEASE!!!!!!

Hi community,

What are you thoughts on trading libba and cotch up to Selwood and Pendles if I have the cash.

The prospect of riding the season with the three big guns (i have Gaz) is very exciting after these recent scores.

Emma

I would not trade coach, maybe libba to Pendles would be a go if you have the cash. You can always look at brining in Selwood post bye

GarglesnarfFC

It's true you would have three big guns, but ALL with a round 8 bye, as is cotchin. I would be looking to bring these guys in in round 9, plus sideways are dangerous. Back your premiums to come good.

Tom

Thats a good point Gargle

Shinboner

I definitely would not do that. Try not to chase scores. Libba and Cotchin will prove their worth this year.

Emma

1754/16 Gazza, should of checked the weather before going with Gazza, at least I have pendles so not all bad. Hoping for 2200 with 6 to come. I also wanted to bring in Mummy but Pyke with 110 is not to bad. If Michie is sub I might have to trade him to Tyson.

Tom

Definetly trade michie to tyson

Captain joc

Don’t trade just for trades sake if his named sub then do it but pretty sure he won’t be coz his a deep part of there midfield you picked that player for a reason so stick to your guns not like he was bad last week anyway

Emma

I did the trade michie to Tyson it has paid off big time

Pieman1978

After a 2320 start last week I’ll struggle for 2100 this week. SC gods I’m shaking my fists at you bastards! Someone please pass me some tissues

Jerry

I have a couple of changes to make. I also have Mitch, Ryder and Webster. I also have 151k in the bank.

Plan A
Ryder to hickey
Webster to enright

Plan B
Ryder to hickey
G Rohan to zorko.

Plan A begin to fix my defense, but defenders score pretty rubbish.plan B gives me a locked forward line with danger, dusty, roughie, Mitchell, Caddy and Zorko. Plan b allows me to generate cash, but leaves my defense exposed. If smitchell is only 1 week plan b works, but otherwise maybe have to go plan.

Community what are your thoughts?..

Mebois

try and get jaensch, he has got the ton 2 weeks now and has a very good role, it would also give you cash and you could try to get mummy.

Jerry

I have been looking at Jaensch since pre season. He had a solid preseason and continues to back it up. Should have gone him over Webster. Good provocation

JJM

Well you can forget about Enright

Captain joc

I don’t know why everyone is disappointed in the likes of Langford,Langdon, Dunstan and co. You gotta remember that they are ROOKIES and that there gonna be up n down every week just coz they had good first rounds doesn’t mean they are gonna score like that all season

Jerry

Agree, the rookies role is to generate cash. They are not keepers. You take the good with the bad, but all going well they will earn you a 200k plus and you upgrade to premiums. Also mid pricers and premos spud it up. Eg Rhyce Shaw. 100 rd 1 18 rd 2. Roughie, 118rd 1 49 rd 2. The rookies are doing ok!

Kate

I'm trading hodges best options I need suggestions

Shinboner

And to think, some were considering trading Hanley out! Glad I have Aish on the pitch over Dunstan this week. I've been pretty lucky this year regarding rookie selections. The same cannot be said for my mid-price choices, which have been dreadful. Mitch Duncan, I'm looking at you.