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Flesh for Fantasy – Round 1, Part 2

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flesh-for-fantasy-150x150G’day community,

Hope you all faired well in the first week of this ridiculous split round rubbish. We all watched as Sandilands backed up his NAB Challenge form with a handy 127, while mediocre efforts from Dale Thomas and Lance Franklin has caused many headaches amongst the community.

With the rest of round 1 to be completed this weekend, many sides are already locked in. However, there are still some positions up for grabs and this week’s Flesh for Fantasy is here to help you cement those last couple of spots.

So lets begin.

GET HIM IN

Jack Redden (BRIS) MID – $528,400 SC

  • Next 5 games: HAW (A), GEE (H), GCS (A), PORT (A), RICH (H)
  • 2013 Average: 97

On the back of a solid pre-season, Jack Redden brings himself into contention as a potential M3/M4 option. Many will have their midfields locked away, considering Murphy, Beams, Thomas have already played. However, if you’re looking for a midfield option with a difference, Jack Redden could be the man.

In his 2 games this pre-season, Jack has scored 140 (26 touches, 10 tackles, 2 goals v GCS) and 104. Prior to 2013, he managed 2 consecutive seasons of 100+ average. He is a tackling machine, averaging nearly 7 a game. Not only that, he is rated by Champion Data as an “above average” for kicking efficiency and tend to score goals when he kicks the ball inside 50 more times than not. A POD selection, he is due for a breakout year and is the type of player whose numbers satisfy those at Champion Data. Definitely one to consider if you’re tossing up that M3/M4 spot.

Jackson Macrae (WBD) MID – $331,100 SC

  • Next 5 games: WCE (A), NM (H), RICH (H), GWS (A), CARL (H)
  • 2013 Average: 61

With all the talk RE Libba’s form this pre-season, there is one player that has gone under the radar, but has been just as damaging. Jackson Macrae is showing no signs of second year blues and is looking bloody good. While he did struggle at times last year, once he found his feet, he started to turn out results – collecting 20+ touches in 7 of 8 matches between rounds 8-17 (via Champion Data). He has been eating and lifting himself silly and is now built to have an impact at AFL level.

His pre-season, as mentioned, has been sensational. Scores of 106 (27 touches v St Kilda), 123 (30 touches, 10 marks v Fremantle) and 128 v Carlton has many around the kennel bullish about his prospects. Macrae will be well down the tagging pecking order, with Griffin and Libba ahead of him. This could see him off the leash as an outside mid. Many will be stuck with Daisy, and if Macrae shows serious form in early rounds, I will be contemplating going Daisy to Macrae before price changes.

Paddy Ryder (ESS) RUCK – $486,400 SC

  • Next 5 games: NM (A), HAW (H), CARL (H), FRE (A), STK (H)
  • 2013 Average: 90

Circumstances surrounding Essendon’s ruck situation has brought Patty Ryder into contention for that R1 spot. Before you gun me down about Paddy, hear me out. His pre-season has been very good, scoring 139 (12 touches, 32 HOs 1 goal v GCS), 75 (10 touches, 14 HOs and 4 tackles v Port) and 112 v Richmond. He has basically gone at this pre-season alone, with Fraser Thurlow providing a chop out as the 2nd ruck. Bomber Thompson has said Joe Daniher will be spending a bit of time in the ruck, so expecting much the same against North Melbourne.

A bit cheaper than most rucks, Ryder is definitely one to consider going on his pre-season form. He has shown in past years the capability to score points, averaging 100+ in 2012. It is a ballsy selection, but with Bellchambers still a little while away, Ryder could very well blossom as the main ruck and having Daniher chipping in with the odd shift.

Jimmy Webster (STK) DEF – $240,800 SC

  • Next 5 games: MELB (H), GWS (H), WCE (A), ADEL (H), ESS (A)
  • 2013 Average: 45

A beautiful kick and one to set up the play from HB, Webster showed bits and pieces last season – particularly an ability to score from points from fewer touches. This pre-season he has started to show a bit more, scoring 93 against the Western Bulldogs in the wet with just 11 touches and 90 against GWS with 21 touches. Webster doesn’t need a lot of the ball to score.

We’re fortunate that Suckling is yet to play because we are now afforded time to decide between Suckling and Webster. Suckling has the runs on the board, but Webster is not coming off a knee. I can see Webster making $150k while scoring well on a consistent basis. Webster + $70k over Suckling for mine.

GET HIM OUT

Nic Naitanui (WCE) RUCK – $518,800 SC

  • Next 5 games: WBD (H), MELB (A), STK (H), GEE (A), PORT (H)
  • 2013 Average: 96

YET. Nic Nat is one of the undisputed heavyweights of SuperCoach. Many don’t score like Nic Nat. He has the ability to score 100s with little impact on the stat sheet. However, he is coming from a long way back and when the letters OP is lingering around, it can be dangerous territory. He was originally a lock in my SC side, but now I’m having second thoughts.

Nic has had 2 games this pre-season and looks set to play round 1. Personally, I would hold off and wait for Nic Nat to work his way into the season. By the time he hits his straps and begins pumping out 100+ scores, Nic could be at a nice discounted price. But for now, while there is some uncertainty, I would strongly consider other options. You could also take the 70-80 scores now from your R1, especially with Sandi pumping out 100+ scores and save the trade. Up to you, but if you’re going from overall win, I don’t think you can start with Nic Nat.

BREAKING POINT

Much like last week, here are the best averages from the rest of the NAB Challenge:

  • Jack Redden (BRIS) 123
  • Luke Dahlhaus (WBD) 121
  • Tom Liberatore (WBD) 119
  • Jackson Macrae (WBD) 119
  • Koby Stevens (WBD)/Scott Thompson (ADEL) 118
  • Tom Rockliff (BRIS) 116
  • Liam Shiels (HAW) 115
  • JarrydRoughead (HAW) 114
  • Sam Mitchell (HAW) 113
  • Bernie Vince (MELB)/Matthew Wright (ADEL) 111

PUB TALK

It’s back. Thank you for your questions this week. Remember, you can tweet in to @Mr_Crimmins and your question could feature in Flesh for Fantasy. Here are the burning questions of the round.

 

Question 1

ANSWER: Great question. There is world floating around that North are seriously considering bringing in Dan Currie to play as R2. We’ve seen with McIntosh/Goldy that Goldstein doesn’t like playing with another ruck – he needs to ruck alone. I think early on sides won’t go with 2 rucks, but as they figure out their gameplan around the interchange caps, I suspect teams will bring in an R2 and then sub them out late in game for a runner. I think it could have an impact on Goldy, but for Minson, I don’t think the Dogs will play an R2.

 Question 2

ANSWER: Not yet for mine. He played in NAB Challenge 2, but struggled through 30 minutes. Reckon it’ll take time for McIntosh to build his match fitness and will probably be sub candidate in the early rounds, allowing Blicavs to ruck. However, down the track if he starts showing a bit he could be worth looking at. But for now, I’d avoid.

Question 3

ANSWER: There’s a few options worth looking at. Will depend on who is selected, of course. Eli Templeton is one to consider, but has low security – worried he’ll be prime sub-candidate. Mitch Honeychurch has big wraps, but not sure if he’ll be selected. Lewis Taylor from Brisbane also worth considering. But again, all depends on who is selected. Otherwise if you’re M9 played, might be worth keeping him.

Question 4

ANSWER: The relationship will depend on Nic Nat. Early on (going on NAB Challenge) I suspect Cox will do a bulk of the ruck work and Nic Nat play as a rover. But as Nic Nat gains match fitness, Cox will move to forward line and pinch-hit, while Nic Nat will take a bulk of the ruck. This is why I believe it may be worth waiting to get Nic Nat in. Could decrease in value and be ready for big scores at a discount price.

Question 5

ANSWER: I think both are still relevant. If Mick stops trying to Kreuzer into a pinch-hitting forward and allows him to roam around the ground as a ruck, I reckon he could be a handy SuperCoach option. Franklin I’m willing to give him a bit of time because his good is so good, but his form on the weekend was a concern. Give both time, but if they keep this up, will become irrelevant quickly.

Good luck this weekend community. Send any last minute questions you may have to @Mr_Crimmins.

Mr Crimmins.

 

 See what was presented earlier this week:

Monday Poll – What’s your captains loophole threshold?

Tight Arse Tuesday with Barron Von Crow

Supercoach Scouting Report Rnd 1 Pt 2

 


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Nathan

Thoughts on Joel Selwood this week? I know all the concerns about not having much game time in the pre season. Is it worth taking the risk? Knowing how good Selwood is?

Anthony

Hope you ended up going on him.

Jono

B. Martin & Vince OR Georgiou & Shuey

Considering Martin over Georgiou due to his higher job security and also thinking vince could average well in early rounds. Thoughts from the community would be much appreciated!

mike

Matty Crouch as third emergency for Adelaide
… keep him on bench or trade for another rookie?

Logic

Lewis Taylor named in

Billy

Hey guys Watson or Libba?

Kev

Libba

SCdonkey

Suprisingly Mr Crimmins none of you boys ever mentioned J Macrae during NAB Challenge, L Hunter too is worth considering, I'm no Dogs fan but those boys has been impressive. Specially J Macrae Libba like hard at the ball and has BULK up during the off season.

Super_Freak

Yeah, tossing up between him and Shiels. It's a tough one. Not sure if Liels will tag or get let off the leash.

GeneralSoreness

Langford named as rover, appears he may have Shiels job.

Super_Freak

Thanks GS, that's what I wanted to hear. Reckon they will both have good seasons.

GeneralSoreness

Shiels could have massive breakout year, still dont have the plums to pick him though, but definitely on my radar.

Wattsieesq

I saw on Fox Footy that Will Langford was named on a wing. I can't see it announced on the AFL website nor on the hawks website but if he is in, I've got him locked.

Logic

Wanganeen named in the field

Wattsieesq

Wanganeen has been named on the bench. Hopefully won't get vested.

Wattsieesq

Wanganeen was upgraded from the rookie list for Brendon Whitecross. Fox Footy named him on a long Hawks bench but I suspect he'll go the way of Matt Crouch.

The Captain

Terrific piece Mr Crimmo, and timely for my conundrum at hand. I've got $580k in the bank and need to finalise my last position – R1. I currently have Sandy as my R2 and with 580 clams can afford the following:

Coxy, Luey, NicNat, Jacobs or Big Boy – and now even Patty Ryder.

I recently read your analysis on McEvoy – do you still feel the same way after his NAB cup and is he worthy?

I'm torn like a cooked chook and can't decide on who to bring in as R1.

Would really appreciate your sound advice?

David

My SC season is over!
Can't get into my profile at all from my desktop or I-pad.
SC site keep looping and not actually loading the page of my team.
So it know I'm registered and logged in but will not let me play anymore f**king had enough of this BS this year.
Good luck to everyone else hope you do well.

SCdonkey

Had the same problem last week, 4 hours later everything was fine again.

Daniel

try logging in using the little login icon in the top left of the main supercoach screen, don't use the big LOGIN, REGISTER icons.

SCdonkey

Thursday, March 20

Geelong v Adelaide at Simonds Stadium, 7.10pm

LATE CHANGES
Geelong: George Horlin-Smith replaced in selected side by Dawson Simpson
Adelaide: Nil

FINAL INTERCHANGES
Geelong: Hamish McIntosh, Josh Caddy, Mathew Stokes
Substitute: Mark Blicavs
Adelaide: Lewis Johnston, David Mackay, Mitch Grigg
Substitute: Jarryd Lyons

M Crouch not playing.

GeneralSoreness

Merrett, Ambrose and Gleeson all named for Essendon.

GeneralSoreness

Aish, Close and Taylor all named for Lions, Robertson Emg.

Morse

Boys, anyone considering Matt wright for Adelaide?
He's $384K and Brenton Sanderson confirms he will play midfield more this season, no need for him up forward with Betts and Pods there.
I can see him averaging 100+ easily but he is priced to average 69.
Anyone else got the balls to run with him?

Billy

Yep he is in my team!

GeneralSoreness

Third player I selected in my forward line.

crowls

Have him at F5 behind T Mitchell. 90-95 for wright would work for me. With rookies etc can upgrade him mid year.

dannyyboyy

caddy or wright. had wright for a while but i see the importance of caddy for the cats this year. tough. and gettin close to crunch time. thinkin about a last minute switcheroo

GeneralSoreness

Both good choices, go with your instinct / research.

Matt

Thursday night = stress night yet again.

With Langford being named on the ball, im considering downgrading Hodge to him and then upgrading Matt Crouch to a premium like Luke Shuey, or even Jackson McRae or Bernie Vince.

Otherwise I could just trade Crouch for Lewis Taylor.

Would love some peoples' thoughts!

GeneralSoreness

lots of mid rookies as downgrade targets, cant say the same in Def, so for me that means keep strong defence and sideways Crouch to Taylor.

dannyyboyy

i think that like last year there is a lot of money to be made in the mids. im running with 5 premos and 5 rookies if u count dom tyson. i think that is the right mix to get good cash generation for the year. make sure u dont go to weak in your back line (or forward line) is my advice

Swans2014

Matt Wright or Josh Caddy!!!!!!!!!! Need some help

dannyyboyy

mate im the bloddy same i just swapped caddy in after having wright in for weeks now. dunno if its the right call tho. im stumped.

dannyyboyy

back to wright, im hoping for pod over caddy

GeneralSoreness

Both good selections, go with your instincts / research.

Leon

rucks, I have my R4 as non playing max king which was great until all the teams have refused to name the bloody cheap ruckman. Who should I pick in the under 150k for R3. Currie, who seems to never get a go or the forgotten thurlow? Or go cheap and deal with the rucks down the track?

GeneralSoreness

Thurlow still on the rookie list and Ambrose upgraded today pretty much closes that door unless there is another LT injury. Currie named emergency again but more chance given he is acutally on the list.

Leon

anyone else I can stick in there so I don't need to do a fix up trade later on? Thanks on the thurlow

GeneralSoreness

Really just a choice between Currie and Ceglar (dearer option) both named emergencies, no other options without downgrading a premo to Hickey and upgrading a Currie to H Mac, but they come with just as much risk as having two bench donuts.

Lach

So if thurlow is still on the rookie list, should I trade in king as I already have curry? Thanks 4 u thoughts

Billy

So there hasn't been 1 rookie ruck this round wow.

Billy

Wow Lewis Taylor names. Should we consider him?

GeneralSoreness

Immediately swapped him for Crouch.

Billy

I think his job security is a risk though.

GeneralSoreness

He only needs to play enough to generate some $$.

G Ablett 3 Votes

Should i trade out either L. Dunstan, X. Ellis and/or S. Higgins to get L. Taylor and/or M. Honeychurch in or stick with the first 3 options?

Wattsieesq

I'd stick with the first 3

Wattsieesq

Blicavs with the vest. Ouch

Pete

Hi Community – Viv Michie or Xavier Ellis? Don't have room for both… appreciate your thoughts

Pete

…Viv named on the bench, Ellis on the field, but I'm more interested in who has better JS and will generate more cash

Daniel

don't reckon viv will get vest, jkh or georgiou will. So I'd go Viv, Ellis an inj risk, altho I have both.

Mebois

hi guys, cant really decide:

OPTION 1: M4: Redden/Dal Santo, F4: Dalhaus, D5: Webster

OPTION 2: M3: Libba, F4: Gunston, D7: Langford

Wattsieesq

Option 2 for me

Mebois

i thought i was the safer option myself, thanks.

Wattsieesq

1 would have more risk for me. I think Libba is a gun, Gunston is in the same boat as Dalhaus and Langford is a cheaper rookie option who will make money quicker than Webster. That's my logic for the suggestion.

Mebois

this has created a problem for me:

libba or priddis

Kev

libba – higher ceiling

canman1306

Hey I can't Decide on This!

Option 1: D4: Suckling D5: Webster D6: McDonald Cash:14K

Option 2: D4 Webster D5 Mcdonald D6: Langford Cash: 202K

Option 3: D4 Suckling D5 Mcdonald D6: Langford Cash:131K

Tom

Same predicament!!! Liking option 2 or 3 and the saving of cash for nice upgrade

canman1306

It is very hard to Decide out of Webster 70K and Suckling for D4 I think if it was for D5 It would Be Webster everyday of the Week but as D4 I don't Know if we should be doing that.
But the Thing I like about Webster was what Crimmo Said he doesn't need many Disposals to Score Big
thoughts?

Daniel

Option 1 – I've gone both webslinger D5 and Suckers D4 coz want to upgrade both to fallen prems like mcveigh and hopefully bartel (not as soon as I'd like after tonight tho!) Also got Langers D6 and Old Mac on the bench.

canman1306

Thinking I will go Option 3 and Use the Spare Cash for Corrective Trades
Langford will easily Gain A lot of Money and looks to have good JS If he Averages say 70 he can hopefully get up near the 300K mark before the byes.
Also I will Upgrade Geogiou to KK When KK is on the Bubble

Morse

Spewing.
All my research this year pointed to wright as a pod and a potential to ave 100+ but I just couldn't fit him in and he had had 71 at 3/4 time.
Will have to bring him in round 3

rhino

Not sure on him, had 31 touches for 87 points, doesn't use the ball well.

Shinboner

Fair point. It's not everyday you get your hands on the pill 31 times.

throttlefinger

No one used the ball well for the Crows. Liked his effort and I can see him breaking ton with relative ease against a less formidable opponent.

Super_Freak

Agree TF. Reckon Wright is a good pick. Have him and Caddy, reckon they'll both keep improving.

throttlefinger

Me too. Wasn't disappointed. Do hope that is the bar.

If both Wright and Caddy can make that the baseline and hit ton at least 2x before round 8, I will deem the experiment a success.

crowls

Throttle you and me both mate. also good potential for one of them to go on a run. doesnt help with teammate kicks you in the head though.

throttlefinger

Hahaha. A flying leg sweep too, Crowls. Thought he bounced back nicely. Didn't let it rattle him. Agree both have the potential for a run. And with either team, they'll never be tagged. Fingers crossed.

Super_Freak

Caddy gifted at least one goal to a team mate which would have bumped his score up if he slotted it himself. Wright is a ball magnet, and if he can get his DE up a bit his scores will go through the roof.

My Midprice gamble is paying off so far with the exception of Pittard, willing to wait him out at least another week though.

Swallow was my biggest regret, downgraded Titch to upgrade him to McVeigh. I'm sure McVeigh will bounce back, but I might have to find a way to get swallow in for Pittard, if their current form continues next week.

GeneralSoreness

He had 6 clangers in his 31 touches, still pumped out 84 which is above his price point, wasnt getting much protection or help from those around him. Note Scott Thompson and Nat Fyfe have been top 3 last two years for clangers per game.

I would consider this close to a base score and expect him to go 100+ alot. His ability to get the pill and lay lots of tackles will ensure he shouldnt go too low in any one week. In any event his price will go up and if he doesnt earn his spot as a keeper ill trade him.

THE SALTSHAKER

Yeah he was a bit stiff had good numbers and fought all night

Mick

Tagging role is still a concern…he was tagging bartel first 1/4 but then went free

Matt

Should I downgrade riewoldt to roughead and upgradee hanley to mitchell keeping in mind I already have McVeigh and Bartel in defence and Dangerfield and Martin in the forwawrd line

Tom

I would I personally like Mitchell and Roughead better

THE SALTSHAKER

nah roughy wont spend as much time in ruck this year, both danger and martin find more footy

THE SALTSHAKER

oh sorry riewoldt, yeah good trade

Daniel

Anyone know the word on Shiels' role in the side this year? Macrae floated way under my radar this preseason, but now I've heard about him, considering potentially swapping for Shuey or Shiels. Opinions?

Super_Freak

Langford is named, and the rumours I've heard is he is likely to relieve Shiels of his tagging duties. But we won't know for sure until he plays.

Derek

That is the type of thinking that would make JOCK proud, probably a little tear to his eye.

GeneralSoreness

Spot on SF, Langford assigned tagging role, Shiels to run wing rotating through the mid, Apparently! NAB and praccy matches support this but that is all. Im sure though when the sh1t hits the fan Shiels will go to shutdown role.

Clutters

SAM JACOBS R1 113!!!1 Everyone can eat $hit, a big bag of $hit! WHOATY! I'm the greatest man. In teh world whoa!

zimmerbd

Settle down Jock.

Derek

I had Jacobs until 7.06pm last night and traded him out for HMac.

At half time I was kicking myself, but right now i'm pretty happy with myself. HMac look fit and good!

GeneralSoreness

1 selection doesnt make a team, how is the rest of your mob faring?

Osh

Who's a better pick wanganeen or Lewis Taylor

Kev

taylor. Feel wanganeen won't be hanging around for too long

Jai

x 2

throttlefinger

Thanks for answering my question, Mr. C. Still keeping Cox as my R1. Think NicNat will take some time to rev the engine. Hope it's about the time Sandi's value peaks and his toes start to ache so Ross gives him some rest.

THE SALTSHAKER

yeah cox in my team too

throttlefinger

Felt wobbly at first because of the price, but the man just finds a way to deliver.

And the hope is that he continues to do so. Especially at that price.

Jai

Gday beloved community, which of these combinations would you prefer for your team:

S Mitchell, P Ryder and X Ellis at M9
or

M Hibberd, T Goldstein and a sub $123K rookie (Honeychurch, Wanganeen etc) at M9

My final conundrum…

THE SALTSHAKER

option1

crowls

Option 1. ryder has proven can generate points as single ruck. good chance to avg 100 and save cash.
toss up Mitchell/Hibberd and Ellis will get points and game time that wanganeen and Honey wont

Derek

option 1

Dustbin Feltchers

whats the news with fuller? i am still contemplating a non playing back to get langdons emergency 111…..would only do it if the non player has a chance to play next week…great call with Jacobs jock…i had him in the side till last night DOH! will go with hickey or ryder now

Ocker

Dustbin, are you trying to win the big one? Listen to the latest podcast and take note. Make sure you have Langford in your back-line. Listen to the podcast again unless you can afford a suspended player forget Langdon's score and make some money or burn trades. I do have Langdon on my bench and will forget he played this week because I have Langford and McDonald to play. Langford on ground at the moment.

Cheers.

Ocker

As far as rucks go Ryder has always promised but never really delivered and nearly put him in the bracket of burn man but could be okay until Bellchambers is back. Hickey out of the two would be my choice. But in saying that I have Sandi and Sauce.

Chees

Dustbin Feltchers

cheers ocker…yeah i have langford and mcdonald on field..should just be happy with langdons effort..he will appreciate in value….i have sandi…..paddy had a bad year and still averaged 90….might give him a go again…can trade him after a few rounds..will see how jacobs and leuy and hickey go..only real disappointment so far is rohan and cameron, but cant expect too much from them….bloody split rounds!!…and well done to Dustin Fletcher…debuted with Jock when Jesus played full back for Jerusalem…

Ocker

Dustin debuted when I did and that was BC. Rohan I have but RS weather conditions so will keep on bench and Dustin is a fair dinkum champion but unfortunately not SC revalant I truly admire the man as anyone in their right mind should. Congratulations in order this week, Good luck the young lad.

Made your decision stick by it:

Split round is BS for fantasy and could define the winner before we finish round 1. BUT, pod is how you use your trades as well. Good luck in how you do that Dustbin,

Ocker

By the way I am a Richmond supporter so no bias there.

JB

Who's a safer Captain Currie or Thurlow? Thoughts …

crowls

both, but thurlow not promoted so use him

Sarah

Oh yeah, bringing Selwood at the last minute yesterday was a VERY good move!!! 157, thank you very much!!! 😀

rhino

Great move, do you have peddles or gaze as well.

Sarah

Got Gaz but no Pendles. Happy with that move as Selwood scored 30 more points than Pendles and is ~$50k cheaper!!
Will get Pendles after the round 8 bye.

GeneralSoreness

Big Risk Big Reward, nice move.

Sarah

Thanks General Soreness!! I was watching closely to make sure he wasn't a late withdrawal and figured the cats wouldn't risk him unless they were confident he was fit.
Reckon he'll be a good POD til round 8 at least cos not many people would've had him. Especially given the round 8 bye on top of the fitness concerns.

Dools

A very shrewd move Sarah . and excellent call on Pendles I to made last minute change and swaped out Hanley (I love that Guy) for J. Bartel so also a very happy camper. As for Selwood I think he is a must now for any team. Once again well done and great gut call

Sarah

Nice move too Dools! Cheers mate.

Derek

the risk was too big. I think you got lucky and might not be as lucky next time. I wanted Selwood but went StevieJ instead

Sarah

That's why it's called 'high risk, high reward'. And lets face it… everytime the players go out to play, we get lucky if they score big.

Donavan

What is the communities thoughts on Jack Gunston? Can he score regularly around 100 points? Or do the Hawks have too many options, Roughy, Hale, Rioli, etc, etc

Balance of forward-line looks like-
Dangerfield, Franklin, Cameron, Caddy, Rohan, Kennedy-Harris (E), Taylor (bench)

Other options I like for Gunston are Kennedy (WCE), or do I go another midfield forward option?

Thanks in advance

Derek

i'm really really tempted to go with Chapman. I know he won't play all the games, but I see him as a cheap way to pendlebury or Selwood if he can have some good scores early.

medadsson

Agreed but only expected to play 16 games or so I read? Still if you have good bench cover then worth it as he is also dual position. I have him in … out … in ,,,?

Sarah

I'm very impressed with Dangerfield's efforts last night. Had Guthrie hanging off him all night and still scored 107 points!!

theazzyg

Was guthrie used as a tagger? If so uh oh

Marcus J

yeah Guthrie was on patty like a bear to honey and did a cracking job at it as well

theazzyg

I was impressed with guthries score considering he was on 14 at HT. I was panicking a bit

Sarah

I'm impressed with Danger's score. Guthrie couldn't have been tighter on him and he gets 107! Imagine when he's not tagged so tightly… he'll dominate!!

theazzyg

I reckon, he should be let off the chain against no tagger/bad taggers.

Derek

I had Guthrie and was very happy with his SC score. I'll be nervous keeping him, is he likely to tag every week?

theazzyg

I'm not to sure, the cats did say he'd be pushing into the mid field, but this isn't what I envisioned. BUt considering he did well on danger last night maybe that will be his new role. I'll monitor his output in the next few weeks.

GeneralSoreness

107 points at 53% DE is not bad at all!

Super_Freak

The bloke is a gun. He was wearing Guthrie like a backpack, getting attention from other blokes as well and he still finds a way to make an impact. There won't be too may games where he gets tagged that hard, and then he will go off.

The other thing that impresses me heaps with Danger is his overhead marking. He also runs back with the flight of the ball with no regrard for his personal safety, a bit like Jonathon Brown in his hay day. Respect!

A-Legend

Taylor or JKH??

Fourbells

Long term gain Taylor (save a trade)

Wattsieesq

JKH, has JS and will be an early cow

Marcus J

I was slightly worried about selwood after the amount of game time he had in pre season but he is just a machine

I know a lot of people had caddy (I didn't) what people think about his out put from the night ?

Fourbells

Compared to Buddy, had a ripper of a game.

GeneralSoreness

I was happy with the return. Caddy will only improve imo. Got plenty of it including a kick to the head, poor disposal at 55% DE, so I would consider the score a base score. He is also a regular tackler which should ensure that he doesnt really bottom out even if he isnt getting the pill. Overall his return was above his priced average meaning he will increase in value, if he doesnt get to a keeper F6 average he will be upgraded.

benisbill

I'm giving him another week to see if the preseason form translates (and if his score improves minus the boot to the scone).

If not, he's switching to the mids and becoming Joelwood.

Derek

I had caddy and was happy with the way he played. I thought he might have got closer to 100SC but I think he is in my team for a while.

I also had StevieJ and at 3/4 time I was laughing. He had a quiet last quarter but still managed a lazy 115.

Guthrie…….i'm not sure why I had him in defence. He scored 80SC but i'm nervous keeping him.

Osh

Who should I put on the field as my m8 Ellis or Dunstan

Fourbells

Can't go wrong with either. Ellis slightly for me

Derek

Ellis. All reports he is killing in training.

Cyril is the man

Is honey church playing? If not who is a good replacement

Also have f thurlow as r4. Should I leave him as I can’t see any replacements for him

PJ8

Honeychurch is named in the squad on the extended bench. They will drop 3 players from that tonight. I don't like his chances though with Dahlhaus, Wallis, Dickson and Cordy also on the extended bench.

Those first 3 will defiantly play so hopefully they decide to go with no back up for Minson and Honeychurch may play. But against Cox and NicNat surely they will play Cordy.

MarcuJ

Georgieu or Langford for D bench spot?

langford is named as an on baller so im assuming he will score higher BUT im worried he will loose his spot to the likes of sewell once fit?

anyone else worried about JKH starting with the vest?

Sarah

Worried about JKH and Taylor starting with the vest. All are bench players for me but I'd still rather they were able to score well for cash generation purposes.

SCdonkey

Personally I don't think JHK wont be vested, as the Dees are lacking of Forwards with Clark being out possibly the whole season, Hogan and Dawes injured. JHK will slot in the forward line nicely for the Dees.

MarcuJ

after deliberation i have now given that forward spot to z.merritt but im still unsure

these 2 last positions are simply doing my head in.

zimmerbd

Yep, in same boat. Merrett is a good size, tackles well, good skills. Don't think he'll get the vest either.

Marcus J

merritt gets the vest
JKH it is

Super_Freak

Langford may relieve Shiels of his tagging duties, which could impact his scoring potential.

at your peril

Disagree on the NicNat call… Selwood under a much bigger cloud (no-one should have picked him) and look what he did. Longmire came out and stated NicNat was right to play and is back to jumping over buildings again. NicNat played almost a half in their last NAB Cup game then 3 and half Qs in the WC intra club practice match.

Sarah

I picked Selwood and got 157 points for my trouble. He was selected to play, wasn't a late withdrawal and is a gun… that was good enough for me.

zimmerbd

You wouldn't think they'd risk him if he wasn't 100%.

zimmerbd

You wouldn't think they'd play him if he wasn't 100%.

Michael

Suckling & Lewis Taylor

Or

Webster & Tyson

Wattsieesq

Option 2

benisbill

Webster & Taylor

IWil

That Redden talk sounds interesting, would you save the 70k and go Redden over Rockliff?

Interesting call, as a lions supporter I want one of them in my squad. Thoughts?

zimmerbd

I'd be concerned about Redden's consistency. He can belt out huge scores, but he'll go missing as well. Rockliff looks like he's stepped up again this year. But, you'd know them better than I do.

SCdonkey

2nd Half of Round 1 kicked off last night with The Cats and The Crows at each others throats for three quarters until the The Cats sharpened their claws and shredded The Crows' wings in the last quarter. J Selwood how many SC coaches wanted him on their team, but doubted him, cause of his hamstring issue. Last night he showed no signs of the injury, simply best on ground for The Cats collecting (157 SC points) 34 Touches, 2 Goals and 6 Tackles, J Bartel many stayed away of picking him cause of his new role with (115 SC points) 21 Touches and 4 Goals what ways to celebrates his 250. The Cats brought in 3 Giants Hmac, Simpson and Blicavs (Sub). Hmac who have not played a game since 2012, looked good and fit (80 SC points)12 Touches, 19 Hit-outs and a Goal to his first game back. Had my eyes on J Caddy all night, After a friendly fire from J Selwood boots, and my heart went "Oh, F***"! Get up. Caddy managed to rack up (81 SC points) 20 Touches, 4 Tackles and a Goal for the night.

The Crows were toe-to-toe with The Cats for three quarters, they took the lead kicking the first goal at the final quarter by 1 point. The lead didn't lasted, as The Cats booting 6 Goals to win the game. Dangerfield had a Cats (Guthrie) clawed on his tail all night, and still managed to get (107 SC points) 21 Touches and 2 Goals with 17 Contested Position and 4 Clearances. Pods with 11 Touches, 3 Tackles and could only manage to kick a behind against his old side. Betts 16 Touches, and 2 Goals, M Wright continued his NAB form into the season opener (84 SC points) 31 Touches, 5 Tackles, while M Jaensch priced $298K was also good at Half back (107 SC points) 25 Touches, 5 Rebounds, 4 inside 50 and 1 Goal. R Sloane had (103 SC Point) 20 Touches, 7 inside 50 and 12 Tackles. The big man Sauce was terrific going against 3 big men, with (113 SC points) 19 Touches, 26 Hit-outs and 1 Goal

Must have in your watch list if you don't have these blokes
Cats
J Selwood
S Johnson
J Bartel
J Caddy
C Enright
H McIntosh
D Simpson

Crows
M Wright
M Jaensch
S Jacobs
M Grigg

Wattsieesq

Great write up SCD. Cheers

SCdonkey

Thanks wattsie, banging my head last night seeing Jaensch ripping it up at backline. As I had him all preseason and decided to to go with Pittard on last minute.

Mick

Was very happy with M Jaensch's score…he flew under everyone's radar despite his great nab form : )

Dale

Is 80 from Caddy good enough? Is it mid-price fizzle like Thomas? Will Savage be a better mid price boomer?

Cam

Caddy looked better on the field then his score suggested. Keep in mind the kid copped a fair beating during the game; the boot to the head being the main one but I also saw him get crunched by big men hitting the pack a few times. If he can sit on 80-90 he'll do enough to jump up 130-150k while still giving you respectable scores. If he keeps producing the same results I think I'll aim for him to be my last upgrade trade (in the grand scheme of 22 premiums) but if he lifts up to around 100 then he can stay.
I also have Daisy (and I'm unfortunately a Carlton supporter…) and to my eyes Caddy seems better value.

SCdonkey

Well said Cam, Caddy is a possible keeper. As for Daisy that ankle of his is a big concern, watching him play last week he looked awkward at kicking the ball. Not the Daisy as we have known, big question is! How long will that ankle of his will hold?

Cam

It worries me too, SCD. I'm Hoping (for the sake of my SC team and Carlton) that the injury is history and surely he'll be better as his fitness improves over the course of the season. That being said, I am toying with the idea of a downgrade to Matt Thomas or a straight swap to Macrae. Other options in that same price bracket have a lot of question marks. How will Savage go in the carcass of a club that used to be St Kilda? Will Shiels play free all season or is the Langford tagging role just temporary? I guess now we play the waiting game…

Wattsieesq

No worries SCD. Jaensch didn't pop up on my radar as I have Suckling and he's the exception to my guns and rookies strategy. I did consider Pittard instead of Suckling but went with Suckling. I still think Pittard will have a pretty good year.

As for Caddy, he is priced at 60 so scoring 80s will get him up to around $420k which can then lead to an upgrade to a premium pretty easy. I didn't go with him, but he looked pretty good.

Billy

Hey guys if anyone wants to check a players round average or weekly score from last year you can use this website http://supercoach.ntnews.com.au/

Josh

Mr Crimmins, Thoughts on Jed Lamb mate? will he get a good shot at GWS?

judd0

Which two to have on the field out of Aish, Dunstan and Michie.
Aish playing against Hawthorn which raises concerns for me otherwise he would be on.
Michie and Dunstan play each other, both weaker sides, does this mean they will clean up?

Jim from Gippsland

Aish on bench mate.

Pete

Who have people got for R3 and R4?

Jim from Gippsland

does it really matter?

None of them are playing!

Thurlow purely for the link to the fwd line. And A Smith from Bris for the Captain loophole

Cam

I don't think it matters… no one is playing any rookies this week!

For what it's worth I went with Derickx and King.

Derek

I have two guys who are $102k each. Don't even remember their names.

Jim from Gippsland

thoughts on dropping Ryder into the ruck instead of Nicnat?

Seeing Sinclair named on the extended bench is giving me the heebee geebees. Afraid that Nicnat might not play or even worse will share the vest with Sinclair.

or there is always a safe option with McEvoy I suppose.

Advise please?

Dools

Well Jim I'm still going with McEvoy I love his disposal effeciency and if he floats of half back his kick to handball ratio will sore. So play it safe mate

SCdonkey

I was tempted to go with NicNat but decided to go safe with Sauce. NicNat can be damaging, but I wanted a player who can play all season and I am happy for Sauce to get around 80-90 at least I don't have to worry about him each week wether he'll be playing or not. IMO I'd look for someone who will be be there week in week out as your R1, I'm pretty sure you have Sandi as your R2 can't have 2 injury risk onfield specially we are lacking of Ruck rookies this year.

Jim from Gippsland

I am feeling a little (non) buyers remorse for failing to get onto Jacobs last night. I was off and on all week.

I agree with the double injury risk and also with yourself Dools.

I'm going McEvoy.

Thanks guys.

Jim from Gippsland

but the bloody cat better look out if Nicnat goes 110+!

Cam

I thought about both those options then slapped myself for being stoopid. Can't rely on either of them, at least not at this stage. Maybe after a couple of rounds you can reassess but right now the risk is too high in my books. I opted for Jacobs as a cheaper, more reliable alternative which seems to be a good pick (albeit only after one game)

Tom

I'm sticking fat with Nic Nert crimmo…I reckon even if he's coming off limited prep, his athletic ability and pure talent is enough to get him through and I reckon he'll build his base as the game continues. He's a guaranteed for at least an 80-90 I reckon and he has the potential to rack up a big score against anyone, anywhere. Not to mention I love watching him play…

Derek

I was thinking Langford's job security wasn't that good, but then I look at the hawks named team, and there are at least 3 other players named that are behind Langford. hawks do have a few to come back in though….any thoughts?

PJ8

Yeah I was tossing up with Langford and Georgiou and looked into it.

Langford would be picked ahead of Wangeneen, O'Brien, Simpkin and possbily Duryea.

But they have Lake, Rioli, Stratton, Shoenmakers and Sewell to come back over the next 2-3 weeks.

It's a hard one… anyone with anything to help the decision woulld be great

MarcuJ

Langford named as FOLL even tho in supercoach he is classed as a defender and to me thats sewell / rioli's spot

duryea and cheney gotta come out for lake and shoenmakers (unless they push shoenmakers forward)

atleast one of them would retain bench spot as well as I smith and one of sewell / rioli

so that leaves 1 bench spot for J.Simpkin, D.Wanganeen, T.O’Brien, Langford

Tough call

PJ8

Very tough. On the other hand Georgiou could play every week.

Derek

there is Stratton to come back as well.

i'm going to skip on Langford. I can see him getting to the bubble and not getting games to increase in value

ray

redden priddis rockliff or libba

PJ8

Rockliff
Libba
Priddis
Redden

In that order

ray

iv gone with rockiliff and libba but redden looks good value

Dave

I have gone with Redden and Libba.

Captain joc

Langford vs McDonald? Who wins

Marcus J

mcdonald for me. greater job security

theazzyg

I reckon he may be a sub candidate for tonight, as he was borderline in the team to begin with and all those half back flankers they have. Just watch for the team announcements to make sure. Will think about downgrading for another rookie if he gets the vest.

Captain joc

Yeah or I could get both n ditch suckling

spida

Would love opinions … last 2 spots in mids – who to take out of …

Z Merrett
JKH
Taylor

Thank you muchly

spida

Last two spots in FWDS (sorry)

Marcus J

do you mean FWD?

i have merritt and JKH would be my second choice

JOSH

I'm dithering now, currently I have Webster D5 and McDonald D6. Do I tinker and go McDonald D5 and Langford D6?????

Jimmy

Aish & R3= currie or;

Tyson & R3= King

?? thoughts will be greatly appreciated

Captain joc

Tyson

canman1306

Tyson

canman1306

Who is a better Option for F8 Merret or Taylor
Don't Care about this round just want the best pic for the season