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PODCAST: Time to jump the trench

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Supercoach 2014 preseason podcast

Fantasy footy season 2014 has arrived community!

This is the week that we’ve all been waiting for you little ripper!

The beginning of another season where champions will be made. Where some will rise from obscurity. Where some will fall from high places.

Join Peter Higginbotham, The Crouching One and myself on this our most significant podcast of the year to date.

Remember if you’ve enjoyed the preseason with us and can spare a few bucks feel free to donate using the button over on that sidebar thing. We’d be tickled pink and if you do it by Wednesday you’ll get yourself into the Jock Reynolds donors group as well.


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rhino

That feeling of Satisfaction when you click refresh and the podcast pops up,

Billy

I know right. Thanks so much jock!

Jai

Haha glad to know im not the only one in that boat.

FIRE UP COMMUNITY!!

amos

yes boys

Jozza

Thoughts on Dean towers? will he crack games this year…. And what are your thoughts on luke hodge, can he hold a good average still in old age!

@daveywarhol

It's all about RD 1 teams, if Towers is named, then go for it! Hodge is mentioned in the podcast. Goes at it like a bull at a gate, sometimes the gate wins.

Billy

Downloading now will listen to it in bed! Thanks Jock.

log

def – mitchell, Mcveigh, Bartel, suckling pig, Webster and Mcdonald – INT – Clurey and Georgiou
mid – Pendlebury, ablett, Murphy, Beams, michie, aish, Polec and Dunstan – INT – ellis and crouch (can upgrade michie into dale thomas ive needs be i have 250k in the kitty)
ruck – Lobbe and Sandi – INT – Thurlow and derickx
fwd – dangerfield, Roughy, Dixon, Parker, higgins, Rohan – INT – kennedy harris and impey

if sandi gets injured i can swap in Charlie Dixon for Thurlow.

please give me some words of wisdom. Negative and postive

harry

upgrade michie to thomas

THE SALTSHAKER

Im worried if he gets rested, will Dixons body hold up? that's the burning question. avg 12 games a year for last 3yrs

anon

DEF: i would take out bartel and put in someone a liitle cheaper and more consistent ike hurn or enright
MID: take out michie for tyson
FWD: and i would take out dixon not worth his pricetag and i feel there are better options available like zorko and buddy

thats what i would personally do

Davey Warhol

Geez the forward line is giving me headaches. With Richard Douglas, Henderson and Van Berlo all out, surely Matthew Wright will be played on ball in the guts for the crows? Or should I get Josh Caddy instead? Or save a bit of coin and climb aboard the Higgins rollercoaster? BURNMEN EVERYWHERE!!!

LukTon

I'm a bit of a safe player, and I like to be able to lock a player in from the get-go. This is why I've selected Alex Fasolo into my forward line.

Instead of picking Matt Wright ($384,900) and Josh Caddy ($325,300), and spreading the total cost of $710,200 over 2 potential burnmen, I picked Fasolo ($213,600) knowing he will play and MAKE ME MONEY, leaving me with $496,600 to spend on a much more reliable, set-and-forget player type(Franklin, Dixon, JJK, Parker, T-Mitch, Zorko, etc…take your pick!)

Sure, I know that the Fas isn't going to score up there with even the modest of averages, but I can guarantee that he will make me money, and will later turn into a premo-forward upgrade with the help of an extra cash-cow.

Caddy and Wright are TWO risky picks, and either could make or lose you money. Pick a premo forward and a someone who will DEFINATELY make you money. It will leave you in much greater stead for the mid to latter part of the season.

Josh

Hey community, here is my team:

DEF: McVeigh Mitchell Houli Suckling Webster McDonald (Langdon Georgiou)
MID: Ablett Liberatore Cotchin Kennedy Beams Macrae Polec Ellis (Dunstan Crouch)
RUC: Ryder Sandilands (Thurlow King)
FWD: Dangerfield Parker Gunston Wright Higgins Rohan (Kennedy-Harris Impey)

Any comments appreciated!

daryl_prasad

The following 6 are very risky:

Webster, McDonald
Polec, Ellis
Higgins, Rohan

Shinboner

What are your thoughts on Polec, mate?

daryl_prasad

maybe have a look after round 2

Shinboner

Have to disagree there Daryl. Seems to be a surefire option alongside Aish and Ellis at that 150-180k range. And Luke Mac was born to play footy. He will be tremendous.

daryl_prasad

Remember Kane Mitchell? A score of 100 in Round 2 of the NAB Cup against the Demons was the second highest dream team score by a rookie. Dead in the water last season.

@JPBlacker

Why do you think Mcdonald and Polec and Ellis are risky?

daryl_prasad

I think they are overpriced at this stage. Will wait till after round two to see how they are fitting in.

SCdonkey

Why is McD a risk? Considering he's the best Rookie option you could have in Defense with a job sercurity.

daryl_prasad

I just don't like rookies in round 1. Too many nervous moments. Like players who have played at least 10 or 11 games and have a chance of getting a decent score. This year sees a different pricing structure for rookies. Previous years I would have picked McD because he would probably have gone up 50 thousand after first game…but that will not happen this year. He needs to put in two really good games first up to increase his price.

THE SALTSHAKER

Why waste a trade? will play lots all those guys starting rnd 1

daryl_prasad

Also McD is playing against Essendon first round. A tad different from any VFL team. And in the second week…bit of grey hair material for mine.

Basil

agree with salty…..have all those subject to playing…….Maybe cricket is Daryls game……..?……

daryl_prasad

You're right. Cricket is my game! OK…I will bow to those with more experience and success in Supercoach. Will think about McD (smallMac)…after round 2

SCdonkey

Teams looking good Josh, maybe your fwd just need a little bit of work. Gunston, Wright and Higgins is a bit of worry, you should only pick one or two out of them 3 and upgrade either Gunston or Wright to Titch if you can still afford it. If not downgrade one from Mid either Kennedy or Macrae to a playing Rookie that should free up heaps cash for you upgrade one up fwd to a premo.

theazzyg

When talking about titch we are talking tom Mitchell yeah? The commentators call Shane Edwards titch is ll

Oscar

yeah tom mitchell

Tim

So far,

Mitchell, Hanley, Enright
Suckling, McDonald, Georgiou (Langdon&Clurey)

Cot chin, Kennedy, Beams, Murphy
Thomas, Shiels, Aish, Ellis (Polec&dunstan)

Jacobs, Sandinista (thurlow&derickx)

Danger, Parker, wright
Caddy, Higgins, Rohan (impey&jkh) with sub 700k left over as I'm going for league win

zimmerbd

You'll want to use some of that cash to beef up your mids a bit.

SCdonkey

Wayyyyyy too much money in the kitty, just sitting there being wasted. If you are only after for the league win then this line up might work for you specially with heaps of cash in reserve for trade upgrade. But if you're after for the overall win, you'll be way behind of the pack.

Garglesnarf FC

Cash is for premiums, that is why we trade cash cows into new rookies.

Turn some of that $700k into two more premiums now, rather than wait.

anon

guys would appreciate some thoughts on my team

DEF: mitchell, hurn, waters, suckling, r.shaw, mcdonald, (langdon, georgiou)
MID: ablett, cotchin, beams, shuey, vince, tyson, polec, ellis, (dunstan, crouch)
RUCK: pyke, sandilands, (derickx, thurlow)
FWD: martin, roughead, parker, zorko, darling, caddy, (rohan, kennedy-harris)

Sleepy

Waters is gonna be out for some time through injury

anon

thanks for that whos a solid replacement for waters?

preferably someone under 500k

LukTon

Jed Adcock ($492,100); he picks up the captaincy this year, and with it, will be asked to shoulder more of the load from his younger, more inexperienced teammates.

Trent McKenzie ($477,700); had a very consistant year last year and is in a team on the rise. He's entering his fourth year of AFL and could easily build on last years performance and then some.

There's two for you, there's also some far riskier picks like Watts and Fisher if you're strapped for cash, but even then i wouldn't entertain them.

anon

cheers bud some good choices there especially liking jed adcock as well im tossing up between him and enright

Garglesnarf FC

Watts is going to be very interesting. Finally has a decent coach to work with, and one who has continually said he would have taken no.1 as well.

Can he up his output to 90+?

daryl_prasad

Four very risky choice: : vince, tyson, polec, ellis

Leisure Suit Larry

Stop saying some of the best rookie choices are risky.

Who are your top 5 mid rookies?

daryl_prasad

Don't have any rookies on the field

SCdonkey

Love to see your team daryl. Seems like Risky is your favorite word today.

Shinboner

Going for broke there Daryl! Well, it isn't cookie cutter, I'll give it that. Regardless, I can't see this being especially successful. Too many mediocre scorers, taggers and players who won't get a game in this year. The team also lacks the potential cash generation required to attain a full premo squad by Rd 18-19. There is a fine line between a unique squad and being an SC hipster!

daryl_prasad

Using the 300 thousand players in my back line until the rookies show how good they are after round two. Most of the 102s will be replaced as we go on…but for round 1 I want bodies that are definitely going to give me ok points. I think cash generation will be harder this year given the new rookie pricing structure…not like old times This is not to say there aren't any good rookies…I'll just wait for them to get results.

Best of luck for this year. Trying a new strategy…could all go to sh*t.

anon

you wont get anywhere in superocach without taking risks bud

daryl_prasad

Yep you are right, but I think people will get caught this year with rookies going down in price because of the new rookie pricing structure. I will look at rookies after round two.

Casey Brown

Want To Put In Liam Sheils, But Worried He Will Be A Tagger, Can anyone Put My Mind At Ease?

Derek

He will be the tagged at hawthorn. Langford looks ok but shiels will do that job.

anon

shiels looks too much of a risk for me your better off going with dom tyson if you havent already seems to me melbourne midfielders are going to be the port adelaides of last year where we generate our cash from

throttlefinger

Swweeeeet! Perfect for my commute to work. Can't wait to listen.

And if anyone has room for another league, welcome to the Throttledome: 231330

dannyyboyy

count me in throttle

throttlefinger

Sweeeeeeet, Dannyyboyy. Looking forward to locking SC horns.

@daveywarhol

Throttlefinger, Jocks foriegn correspondent. Humbled to be in your league!

throttlefinger

Very glad to have you in the league, Davey!

rob

Just joined. Also humbled to be in the league! ..Killakombo

throttlefinger

Hahaha! Glad to have you aboard, Rob!

LukTon

Is there still room? I'll stuff myself in there!

LukTon

It's full 🙁

throttlefinger

Hey LukTon. I'm in another league that has some spots open. Join code: 263940

skindog

Im in Throttle, an honour!!

throttlefinger

Honor is mine, my man.

zimmerbd

All full Throttle. I missed it by… that much.

throttlefinger

Dang man!

Get in on Lostlarrikin's league: JR Flappin Phat – 786121

I'm in there. Let's rumble!

Jye

Bugger just missed out as well!

Ripper_Roo

Would love to join TF! But SC says it’s full. Do let us know if an opening comes up in the dome! Cheers!

log

join my league! have 14 spots left haha.

CODE —– 203237

skulldonkey

ill join your league. Im the bastard who introduced Throttlefinger to footy….

Shinboner

You've done the community a great service.

throttlefinger

Nice to say, my man. How's Team Shinboner shaping up?

Shinboner

Let's just say it would be a lot simpler if I wasn't so bloody worried about the lack of closure re: the Essendon drug scandal. Not particularly confident with having Jobe and Hibberd in my team. I don't think I could manage two suspensions into the season. That aside, the team is not looking too shabby. A nice balance of solid premium output and 'risk' I feel. Is Team TF faring much better?

throttlefinger

Podcast helped clear up a lot of issues. Feel considerably better about the side. Now it's just waiting for selections with fingers crossed.

Man, I feel ya about the Dons. Had both in at one point. Hibberd I took out because of his hammy issues. Jobe for the reasons you stated. Just didn't want the headaches. Sandi is the only "will it happen or not" drama I'm willing to put up with.

throttlefinger

That's a bit of a stretch, Skulldonkey. "Re-introduced" to footy.

But he has educated me on its finer points for sure. So yes, very grateful.

skulldonkey

oh come on….. re-introduced….ok….ha. you should take it as a compliment, as you only knew about it and from watching it late at night as teen, and 2 years in now youre like a goddamned bloody expert that leaves me in the dust!

throttlefinger

Haha. Hardly an expert. Any knowledge I've gained has been completely due to this community.

Plus, we'll see how good my team does. Might prove I don't know dick.

WombatsFC

Hiya Jock,
I reckon that the Higginator and the new stats interface combined with the statistical anaylis of Crimmo and the learned insights of yourself BVC, Higgo, WayneO, and the Crouching-CulturalSterotype not to mention the info provided by the brilliant folk who use your pages is ten times more valuable than the SuperCoach gold subscription.
So, I just donated and I reckon everybody else should as well.

Then Jock & the crew can host a GF party

Philthy

I agree, my subscription went to the flapping tarp fund this year!

throttlefinger

Well said, Womby! And completely agree.

You can read the Sun and all the other footy blogs. But here is where you get ALL the tools you need to build a Crouching SuperKick strong team.

skindog

Brilliant night boys, its on like Donkey
Kong

scott

gaz, pendles, (barlow, jack or fyfe as m3: Undecided), Libba, beams, tyson, polec, aish, dunston, crouch
too expensive midfield?????????

Zac

Seems a bit heavy in the midfield. I'd have either one of Pendles and Gaz, not both. I'd suggest downgrading pendlebury to m.murphy, then have Pendles as your first upgrade target as he surely won't hold that pricetag. Then I would pick Jack as you M2 and downgrade Libba to D.Thomas and you have included two proven premium players whilst saving yourself around 420k. With this saved cash you can upgrade around the ground as well as perhaps upgrade m.crouch to x.ellis because crouch will be more prone to cop the vest.
Suggested midfield lineup:
Ablett, Jack, Murphy, Beams, Thomas, Tyson, Polec, Aish (Dunstan, Crouch)
This first midfield was worth $3,867,200 whereas the suggested midfield is worth $3,489,800 giving you $377,400 to play with in other areas of the field while your suffering a potential point loss of (M1=975 – M2=955) 20 points, while players like Thomas are making money while hopefully providing premium output. The 20 points loss is more than compensated by the $377,400 saving in cash.

@JPBlacker

What does Pendlebury need to average to hold that price do you know? Do you think Pendles will drop in price more than Ablett throughout the first half of the season? I would have thought Ablett might drop more simply because pendles is usually more consistent. Whereas ablett might have a game or two of 80ish.

Is my thinking logical or am I completely off?

Thanks

Zac

Yeah makes perfect sense that a game in the 80's can throw off someone's price significantly if they are priced like Pendlebury or Ablett, but I think it's inevitable that both players will drop in price, I can't see either of them holding a near 700k price tag. In saying that Ablett came out and scored a 159 in the NAB Challenge and has been the best supercoach player for years, can't win without him. Pendlebury tends to have a relatively better second half to the year than Ablett, so while your rookies are generating cash, I would look at Pendlebury as my first upgrade target.

K'noath

I'd go with out Pendles and go with Jack and Fyfe

Give It A Go

The fields are alive with the sound off AFL,

You Rock boys, that's was a ripper

Matt

What's everyone's thoughts on Chris Mayne this year? Potential POD?

medadsson

He won't let you down too often, plays consistently well but is sometimes a little to selfless and passes off. Loves to tackle, have a look at his stats from last year. Doubt he will be a popular choice so good POD in that regard. (Disclaimer – I am a Freo supporter :).

nacho

DEF
s.mitchell, p.hanley, j.watts, m.suckling, j.webster, l.mcdonald
(t.langdon, a georgiou)

MID
g.ablett, s.pendlebury, p.dangerfield, m.murphey, d.beams, d.thomas, j.aish, j.polec
(l.dunstan, m.crouch)

RUCK
m.lobbe, a.sandilands
(d.currie, t.nankervis)

FWD
d.martin, j.roughead, l.franklin, b.reid, g.rohan, j.kennedy-harris
(s.kersten, l.taylor)

please give some feedback, thanks JR community!

skindog

get rid of Watts, other than tat not bad, some good POD's in there!!

nacho

PODs was the plan, im fairly happy… got watts in for fwd/def swing with reidy

daryl_prasad

m.lobbe very slow starter

log

slow starter? maybe when another port ruckman is running on the ground with him. there wont be for six weeks ive heard

daryl_prasad

Thanks for the info. Love this community.

WombatsFC

Looks good Nacho.
I reckon Watts is too risky to have him at rnd1. If he fires off the bat you can always trade him in at the same price after a couple of games. I think Murph is in a similar category.
Lobbe was almost out performed by an unfit, recovering from injury Renouf during NAB; if Renouf is fit Lobbe wont be a lone ruckman and will struggle for 75pts.

Bruds

So i feel backline structure would be risky to have only 3 premiums so i'm looking at 4 with Suckling and McDonald
There hasn't been much talk about Bartel, with no corey, chapman or jpod at the Cattery his value in the team due to experience had increased and forward time is looking immanent. What is everyone's thoughts?

WombatsFC

Agree on Bartel I reckon he'll become the goalkicking midfielder that Geelong will need due to trading all of their fowards that can walk

Bruds

How is your backline looking wombats?
If i want to keep the rest of my lines as they are it's so hard to fit in 4 premos in the backline

WombatsFC

Hi Bruds. Backline is still causing me tormet, when Hibberd blew his hammy again it lost structure badly.

I'm currently running with 3 prems on backline but I've got hodge in the middle and only playing 2 midfield rooks +Daisy & Beams. I have Tyson, Ellis, Polec,Crouch and after rnd 3 if three of them look like a regular 80+ I'll switch Hodgy back onto backline and cash in Suckling, McDonald or Webster for Aish.

Bruds

I love the plan Wombats!
I may replace Hibberd with Simpson or McVeigh but will still only have a 3 premo backline to start off
Ablett with Beams + Murphy + Daisy and rookies in the mid. Hodge in the mid also to then swing back later could prove really effective and save some cash.

THE SALTSHAKER

Bartels scores last year were from high effective disposal. Like Birch. If he is played up forward I don't like his scoring potential as much. Pass. Kade Simpson is your man, plays all around the ground. Finished strong last year.

Bruds

Beatutiful call Saltshaker, Mitchell, Enright and Simpson as 3 premo defence to begin with sounds good to me, perhaps McVeigh but he's a bit on the pricey side.
Slightly worried with daisy now, that sweeping role could be taken away from Simpson a little.

daryl_prasad

Some spots open in my league: 117540

skulldonkey

ill jump in.

Sam

out of these combinations, which would be better:
tyson + laidler
or
matt crouch + rhyce shaw

Bruds

do you have suckling?

Sam

yeah i do
backline is currently
Mcveigh, mitchell, enright, suckling, mcdonald, laidler (clurey, georgiou)

Bruds

I'm thinking laidler doesn't have enough scoring potential and with grundy and richards he might not be needed and i'm unsure of his role there.
Perhaps look at a 4th premium or webster?

Sam

cheers man, i've decided to go for webster

Rocksta

Awesome Podcast Lads.

I reckon I'm just about sold on the 3 playing Rookies in the guts.
Although the thought of it makes me break out into a cold sweat, the simple fact remains that there aren't enough dependable Rookies across the other lines.
The more you look it really does seem that our money this year will be made by the likes of Tyson, Polec, Ellis, Aish, Michie, Dunstan, all of whom are mids.

daryl_prasad

Which premiums do you have? I am very interested in the backline.

Leisure Suit Larry

Same as me Rock star.

Only difference is Tyson for Aish

lostlarrikin

Just missed ur league Throtts.

New league just opened:

JR Flappin Phat – 786121

Get On!

throttlefinger

In there, my man! Look forward to battling, Double L.

wolfey

What are your thoughts on Colin Sylvia? Though he might smash it in moving from a team uncompetitive team to a club that lost the grand final.
P.S loving the podcasts Jock definitely made me consider my team a hell of a lot more

daryl_prasad

Sylvia is very consistant…great pick.

WombatsFC

Hahaha
Yep I'm having trouble choosing between him and Fevola

Bruds

I think Pavlich is a much better choice for just a little more and he's be awkward to fit into your forward line
Caddy should perform better and it nearly 100k less

medadsson

Don't do it. Arrived underdone at Freo and struggling with game plan. Only played one NAB match and played in seconds on Sunday. Did not train with main group today. Personally don't think he will get a game for first few rounds at least. Good POD (for the rest of us who don't have him 🙂

oliverfisher

Which is the better option
Vince and Webster
or
Tyson and Swallow

also
Hurn and Vince
or
Liberatore and Suckling

Leisure Suit Larry

I liked Tyson and Swallow

And

Libba and Suckling.

I have Webster at this stage and he could be an ok pick, and Vince is a decent POD but I just prefer the other options.

THE SALTSHAKER

Hey community, wondering what back up plan folks have for Sandi if he gets rested?

The only options really are Hale and Dixon. Will Hale play still play as much with McEvoy in team?

Dixon might be up forward more often. Not convinced he is at the next stage, will be a roller coaster. Not sure his body will last a season either, as insurance he may miss more games than Sandi. Nor do I want 50s on my field for a $480k player. He doesn't get a lot of football, he wont bag 3 to 5 goals each week. He seemed to get a lot of points for very little last year….champion data and all. For his price his DT scores are quite low, which means he doesn't do a lot in most games by comparison.

Will it be a case of waiting, see whose around at the time then burning a trade in fwd line?

Any analysis or strategy on this would be great to hear

Leisure Suit Larry

I was all over two midpriced rucks and Dixon in the FWD. But I just can’t do it. Dixon seems to score well when he is the second ruck. If there are two rucks named I would stay well clear. Also a history of injury makes him a risky pick for me.

I have decided to pick a different FWD premium and roll the dice on sandi making it through until byes.

THE SALTSHAKER

Yeah thats way im going, dont like him in fwd line

Basil

Salty…..Reckon Hale is the way to go….Think he will be good decoy for a leading Gunstan and Roughy…..Dont think Mcevoy cuts the mustard….Will ruck…..Will play foward heaps…..Kicking multiple goals…………….i think……(even though l got ruffy,not a ruckman)……….

K'noath

I'm thinking Dixon may be the burnman of 2014 myself. I'll be doing one of two of the following scenarios:

R1 Full season keeper: such as Burger, McEvoy, (but probably not super premo's)
R2 Sandi
R3 Thurlow
R4 King (Aka Captain Loophole)

If Sandi goes down suck up with a trade. Risk here is who to trade too if he hasn't risen in coin much (or at all). We all picking Sandi because his score ceiling is huge. If Sandi goes down and bank funds only allow for a sideways trade then the choice for a solid scoring R2 is very slim if the Hickeys and Grundy's aren't performing.

Now… if I decide to take a risk with R1 as well to create extra cash (ie, a Hickey or Grundy type) or picking say another high score ceiling Ruck like NicNat (who could still have his own injury issues) then I think its paramount to a have a Ruck/Fwd swingman. For me Hale is the only choice. Ave 107 in preseason and with no buddy will spend more time forward kicking goals as well as helping out McEvoy. He's also an excellent Mark of the ball.

At the moment I have option laid out first with Hale at F4. Will Hale stand strong enough to hold the spot year long though averaging say 90+ or hopefully 95+???? This is the question as well. Because a Zor4ko/Parker type for similar coin should definitely do that for the year. Is Hale my ultimate security blanket or is he wasting space on a posession grabbing FWD/MID machine.

Descisions descisions….

throttlefinger

Ripper of a podcast, gents! Loved the debates about mid pricers.

Biggest nugget of wisdom was planning for your final team. "The 13" as I've anointed them. Took a hard look at my team and didn't see them there. Dappled with the sure fire prems were too many risky "I hopes". (i.e. "I hope they breakout" players).

Thanks for the whack against the side of the head, Jock.

WombatsFC

So does this mean that you've wasted the last 6-months throttle?
From the sound of this you're back to square 1.

Chin-up buddy the Wombats will thrash your collection of reprobates and wannabe's whichever way you go

throttlefinger

Within a few games you'll be Wincebats, from the stinging from my weekly throttling.

Fine-tuning, Wombats. Still has the uppercuts and hooks from previous versions.

WombatsFC

I'm sure it does and I'm equally sure that most of them will also be in my team and the 16 other teams knocking heads in the throttledome.
Could come down to last minute trades/substitutions when the subs are announced 30minutes before the lockout; your dedication to the contest will surely be tested this year.

throttlefinger

No doubt. Starting teams and corrective trades will separate the men from the boys. And yes, I will be tested. As we all will with this new price structure and lack of a rook booty to pick from. Hope all the planning and scenario run-throughs will make it less troubling as last season.

shane

Looking for competive playersto join my league. Players going for the 50k. 945368

huggy

On board shane. Thanks for the invite

Neil

Still lookng for a league Join 253078 made up of players from the Great Community, love you all guys

Josh

How my team is looking so far
Defenders: S.Mitchell, P.Hanley, S.Hurn, D.Swallow, M.Suckling,L.McDonald T.Cutler, A.Georgiou
Midfield: G.Ablett, T. Cotchin, M.Murphy, D.Beams, L.Shuey, J.Polec, X.Ellis, L.Dunstan M.Crouch, L.Taylor
Ruck: M.Lobbe, A.Sandilands, F.Thurlow, M.King
Forward: P.Dangerfield, D.Martin, C.Dixon, D.Zorko, J.Caddy, G.Rohan, J.Kennedy-Harris, J.Impey

would love some thoughts

Leisure Suit Larry

DEF: a few midpricers but the right ones I think. All should increase their output this year.

MID: good mids. I like Murphy even though some people are off him. I wouldnt pick Shuey myself but he is a good POD. Taylor will prob miss the opening few rounds.

RUCK: like it. Especially if Lobbe plays as a lone ruck

FWD: Dixon is too risky for me, but will come into contention for my team if he plays as a 2nd ruckm if 2 rucks are named he has no shot of joining my team. I also don’t like Zorkos chances of increase MF time this year. Brisbane’s MF looks pretty good so I think Zorko will play primarily up forward and average around 80 odd. I would try to get Parker in for one of them.

Josh

thanks for the help mate really useful
I've got Taylor in as I feel the rest of my Midfield won't miss any games, I've only got him due to the DPP so i can have more freedom with my upgrades
Dixon is in the side soley as cover for Sandilands
I've been meaning to trade Zorko for a while but haven't got round to it

Zach

Need feedback on the D4 and D5 with M.Broadbent and A.Everitt, good stats in the nab challenge with high disposal efficiency…?

Leisure Suit Larry

It all comes down to their role. As a Carlton supporter I would pass on Everitt i justt don’t think he will get as much of the ball to make a good option.

I am a Broadbent fan – could be an ok pick. Played pretty well in the last few gam.. But i see less MF time for him which will lower his scoring. While he has played loose in the past it hasnt been enough to make him a premium selection —- risky POD imo

Clutters

Thanks Neil, the 22 Ronnies are on board.

Bob

Watson, Kieran jack or Rockliff as my second premium midfielder???

Leisure Suit Larry

Rockliff for me followed by Jack.

But pretty close. All 3 are solid options.

Shinboner

Steering clear of Jobe until the drug scandal is done and dusted. Dealing with a suspension weeks into the season will be devastating.

K'noath

Flip a coin. I'd go Watson straight away if he's middle name still wasn't asada. Out of the other two probably Rocky.

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vinnymac

Just joined!

Philthy

Higgo you let Gunston out of the bag!! He's a gun, Hawks went to him only 11% of the time as FWD target last year, that will only go up without Buddy, his Finals scores were 99, 146, 126 after scoring 8 tons in the H&A……

Leisure Suit Larry

Gunston has been picking up steam in the fantasy circles.

But will he suffer now he is probably going to get the athletic bigan that used to chase around buddy?

Philthy

Reckon he will still be good enough Larry, teams will still have to pick up roaming Roughy as Hale should play close to goal and take the genuine FB

Leisure Suit Larry

He is definitely a good punt

Hugh G

No offence guys. But all the singing and acting is killin it for me. I know your trying to jazz it up, but I listen to it for the Fantasy side of it, thats entertaining enough. Stop tryin to go overboard guys.

yes I do hav bacon

Have to disagree there Hugh g, significant comedic value in the parody songs IMHO.

theazzyg

Agree with bacon, I love it, fantasy advice through comedic songs. I still remember crouching Bryce Gibbs burn man song, it helps me avoid picking Bryce Gibbs.

Hugh G

If you need a song to help you not pick someone, then fantasy isn’t your game, mate.

Dale

Comedy gold. Crouching in the YouYangs after the tiges defeat….good. I want more comedy not less. You can’t ask the funniest blokes in town to suddenly be boring (no offense Higgo).

theazzyg

Thanks, was just saying their memorable and awesome.

Rick Grimes

Who do the community rate as the best sub (or close to) $500k defenders? I’m looking for consistency down back, happy to take a solid 80-100 every week, so thinking the likes of:

Enright
Hibberd
Houli
Simpson
Hurn
McKenzie

Also, is Dangermouse likely to hit the season hard or will he take a few weeks to ramp it up? Seems a big spend up forward.

Leisure Suit Larry

Houli. His consistency last year was fantastic. Enright is also a consistent option.

As for danger – I think he will hit the season hard. Have you seen the lad play, that is just what he does, play hard.

PJ8

Enright and Hurn for me.

Dangerfield is a gun, SC has gifted us with his Dual position. Must have this year

Leisure Suit Larry

Hurn is a good choice but not considered. Even the lightest bit of attention and he is scoring a 60.

Leisure Suit Larry

Consistent*

Basil

Danger slow to get out the blocks usually……For me an upgrade……….

Derek

I have Birchell as my D2. i'm not sure why people are staying away from him, it might be that most people already have Mitchell & Suckling and don't like the look of too much Brown & Gold in their DEF (I personally like having a lot of HAWKS = highest SC scoring team)

SCaddict

I like them all Rick but would probably select Hurn. Don't see him in enough teams and reckon he's set-up for a super season. Only running with 2 defensive premos myself (McVeigh and Mitchell) and then cheap midpricers so can't squeeze him in, although he has been in and out of my team all preseason.

I'm going for a POD and NOT starting with Danger. It's certainly a minority view as the safer thing is to start with him but if he has a quietish few opening weeks it could pay off. He's been a notoriously slow starter in the past.

Otherwise I'm fairly sure he'll be available sub $600K at some point around the byes or will just have to pony up the extra cash if not.

Picking JJK in his place as another POD who I think could get off to a flyer with the Eagles early draw.

daryl_prasad

Enright, Malceski

vinnymac

I'm going Hodge over Enright and others.

Ricoh

Thoughts on Tom Mitchell as a POD?

yes I do hav bacon

Really solid option but can see him getting the vest at some stage and maybe missing a game here and there. I’m struggling over him v martin myself.

THE SALTSHAKER

Yeah Longmire says they will need to manage him out of concern he will run himself into ground

Leisure Suit Larry

I think he is a solid forward option.

But will have get enough midfield time competing with jack, JPK, Parker, ROK, McVeigh, Hannerbury etc.

I have him at the moment – tentitively. I do not think he will raise in money much to make me feel that i have missed the boat. So I am looking at other options.

Hugh G

He really isnt a POD. a lot of teams will have him. Parker is more of a POD.

Ricoh

Thanks guys! It seems as if every second person on JR is going with Parker. I'm looking at Pav, Parker or Tom Mitchell as a D4. Think I will go with TM, he jut racks up so many possessions.

Michael

I’m really interested if anyone thinks matty wright is a good option. I’m struggling to see a solid f3 lock and thought maybe spend a bit less and upgrade upgrade later? He was bloody impressive in nab. But it was nab.. Thanks

Leisure Suit Larry

Not for me.

He IS a good option if a tad risky.

His nab has beend great and injuries to a few MFs should lead to more MF time…. But

His coach has said he will play a number of roles which could mean he is back tagging – that has scared me off.

yes I do hav bacon

Showed similar form in last years nab before burnmaning his way through the season proper, typical risk v reward scenario.

BeagzBoyz

You've found my POD mate, Cracker player, been unlucky last couple of years. looked solid and slotted straight into my F5 position. Tad risky but I think he's worth it. Can see him outscoring Caddy regularly which is his only real competition at that price point

PJ8

I have one more league available to join… anyone got a spare spot in a league?

yes I do hav bacon

804328 – Dingus league
Only 3/18 spots if anyone wants to join.

Derek

the bounty hunters (330189)

not sure who set this one up, someone from the JR community. Has 16/18 spots filled.

Hugh G

Broadie Martin a walk up starter for Crows 22??

Leisure Suit Larry

He will start the first few I would imagine but far from being called a walk up starter.

ryanbissell26

i agree

Leisure Suit Larry

Just looking at the fixtures.

Could Melbourne have got a better game to start the season. St Kilda look poor and are playing round 1 without McEvoy(obviously) and also Hayes, and Montagna (suspension) and Fisher out of match fitness.

Game of the round…?

PJ8

Jack Steven and Sam Gilbert injured too. Dee's for the win

Billy

Hey Guys if anyone wants to join the Jock's Community League here is the code
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kevwal

I'm on board Clutters, thanks for the invite.

Lochie

DEF: Bartel, McVeigh, Mitchell, Webster, McDonald, Langford (Langdon, Georgiou)
MID: GAJ, Pendles, Liberatore, Boak, Deledio, Beams, Polec, Dunstan (Crouch, Robertson)
RUC: Sandilands, Thurlow (Derickx or Nankervis (depends who gets named), Currie)
FWD: Dangerfield, Roughead, Franklin, Caddy, Higgins, Rohan (Kennedy-Harris, Impey)
$112, 400 left over.
Could I please get some general thoughts on the team as well as comments around my selection of Boak and Rohan. If they aren't good picks suggestions will be appreciated.
Thanks. : – )

PJ8

I would look to downgrade Boak to a rookie and upgrade Langford. Think 2 rookies in DEF is too risky this year.

Lochie

Ok thanks PJ8.
What do you think about Rohan to McDonough.

PJ8

Not sure McDonough will be named Rd 1, but even if so Rohan JS will be better. I'd stick with Rohan.

Lochie

I went Boak to Michie and then Langford to Bartel. Is that better?

PJ8

By the looks of it you already had Bartel haha but yes that is a better idea

SCdonkey

Ruck needs to be addressed too, relying on Sandi as your R1 and having 3 Rookies for R2, 3 & 4 that will only play a few games throughout the season. Might wanna add another ruck that has job security the likes of Hickey or Lobbe.

David

Need a lot of feed back on these 2 team options:

Option A
DEF: S.Mitchell, K.Simpson, C.Enright, S.Hurn, J.Webster, L.McDonald (T.Clurey, A.Georgiou)
MID: G.Ablett, S.Pendlebury, M.Priddis, M.Murphy, D.Beams, J.Polec, X.Ellis, L,Dunstan (M.Crouch, T,Langdon)
RUC: S.Jacobs, A.Sandilands (F.Thurlow, M.King)
FWD: P.Dangerfield, L.Franklin, L.Parker, M.Wright, J.Caddy, G.Rohan (J.Kennedy-Harris, J.Impey)

Option B
DEF: S.Mitchell, L.Hodge, K.Simpson, C.Enright, L.McDonald, W.Langford (T.Clurey, A.Georgiou)
MID: G.Ablett, M.Priddis, M.Murphy, D.Beams, LShuey, J.Aish, J.Polec, X.Ellis, (L.Dunstan, M.Crouch)
RUC: M,Leuenburger, A.Sandilands (F.Thurlow, M.King)
FWD: P.Dangerfield, J.Roughead, L.Franklin, L.Dahlhaus, J.Caddy, G.Rohan (J.Kennedy-Harris, J.Impey)

PJ8

My team is a mix of those 2 basically haha. Out of those I'd go Option A.

WombatsFC

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Dishlickers

What do people think of r gray as POD in your fowerdline

Harry

Could be a bloody good risk, but at that 400+ price category he is in he needs to get to premium hood to make an impact for you. He will score points but I'm not sure whether he will score enough to be selected in my team, I did have him last year though and he served me mighty well.

Kevan

Fits the breakout category perfectly, now or never to reach premium level.

matthewjsampson

G'day everyone,

The podcast got me fired up for another big SuperCoach year, and I think I'm close to locking my team in.

However, Im at a bit of a dilemma with working around the round 8 bye. At the moment I've got 7 premos at the first bye (Ablett, Cotchin, Dal Santo, Beams, Dangerfield, Martin & Enright).

Any thoughts on how to work around this? Should I downgrade one to Aish and spend around to spread over the byes? Bring in a Bernie Vince type? Or just suck it up and shit my pants come round 8?

Rookies are subject to round 1 selection.

Thanks everyone!

DEF: McVeigh, J, Mitchell, S, Enright, C, Suckling, M, Webster, J, McDonald, L (Clurey, T, Georgiou, A)
MID: Ablett, G, Liberatore, T, Cotchin, T, Dal Santo, N, Beams, D, Polec, J, Ellis, X, Dunstan, L (Crouch, M, Robertson, N)
RUC: Lobbe, M, Sandilands, A (Thurlow, F, Derickx, T)
FOR: Dangerfield, P, Martin, D, Parker, L, Zorko, D, Caddy, J, Kennedy-Harris, J (Rohan, G, Merrett, Z)

theazzyg

If it was me, regardless of byes i'd be swapping dal santo out for a rockcliff type or a rory sloane that may provide similar or better output and ease some round 8 bye pressure

Josh

Very similar teams, Matthew. If you had to get rid of one I would lose Dal Santo but he is a very good POD. If you don't have enough to get a Rockliff or Jack then what about Murphy? Bernie Vince is a good choice but you could save more money and choose Thomas.

Derek

I've done it……the perfect team 😉

DEF: Mitchell, Birchell, Suckling, Roberts-Thompson, Webster, McDonald (Cutler, Langford)

MIDS: Ablett, Dangerfield, Cotchin, Kennedy, Beams, Thomas, Ellis, (Dunstan, Cunningham)

RUCK: HMac, Sandi (Thurlow, King)

FWD: Martin, Franklin, Pav, Chapman, Caddy, Rohan (Taylor, Impey)

Ruck is only risk.

Only playing 1 Rookie on field (McDonald).

Gone with cheap defence but the Hawk boys will get the job done.

Daniel

4 hawks in defense is risky as well as the rucks, LRT, webster, pav and chappy!

rookies are you cash makers, so you have to use them! having 1 playing rookie isnt necessarily the 'perfect'option. This year, 2-4 playing rookies in midfield looks ideal for cash generation. in saying this, your premium picks are solid.

may need to rethink a little, personally, not the perfect team for mine but good luck!

Derek

perfect was a little off the mark. I like your feedback, thanks

SCdonkey

Nice POD you got there picking Birchall absolutely played a ripper of a game in the practice match. At around the price I'd pick S Shaw over Roberts-Thompson. You're right about your ruck is a risk, a BIG risk in fact, having two injury prone as your R1 & R2 then Thurlow as your cover who i think will only play a handful of game this year. Remember the Dons are looking to exploit Daniher in the Ruck this year, there will be very little chance for him to get games specially when Bellchambers comes back. Also you have King as your Dummy ruck totally no cover for your R1 & R2. For your sake I hope Hmac and Sandi gains heaps of cash and stay fit before they get injured again.
I think Chappy will be their supersub vested player this year, as Chappy stated he'd be happy to get 16 games.
I must say your Mid is very strong. Though Danger in the middle is very awkward should move him to fwd and drop Chappy for Murphy in middle.

Derek

my Gut says Chappy. My gut says take the Ruck risk.

I can easily swing Danger to the FWD and put Rohan on the bench, Dunstan then gets a run in the middle.

SCdonkey

I was just suggesting a different options for you not criticising.
For your sake, hope it works out for you in the Ruck.
As for swinging Danger and Chappy back and fort, if thats what your gut is telling you and your happy with that, then by all means go for it.

THE SALTSHAKER

You need to use the mid rookies to generate cash, my gut said the same thing at one stage on a 6-1-1 strategy. Have since gone back to 4-1-3 to make money, whilst boosting Fwds and elite ruck

Basil

Sorry Donkey disagree……They wont do a "Paul Salmon" with Daniher..Might ruck from the boundary in the foward line…. Bellchambers out til Rd 8 atleast, Thurlow takes a good grab,…….a few talls injured at bomberland……….Cash Cow……..

@Cameron23098087

LRT doesnt score well, nor consistently, will probably be rucking though, could pay off!

Rocksta

Agree with SCDonkey and The Saltshaker.
BTW, The Perfect Team is missing one Midfielder.

Alex

Bloody love your work boys, always good for a laugh and some quality info too. Your podcast is a highlight of my weekends.

I’ve just sent through $100 to keep the tarp from flapping at the studios. Keep up the good work jock old son, you’re bloody appreciated here in the community.

Daniel

ive gone through and given feedback on some teams so some feedback on mine would be much appreciated guys! Fire away!

DEF: mitchell, hanley, houli, swallow, suckling, mcdonald – clurey, georgiou
MID: ablett, pendlebury, JP kennedy, beams, michie, polec, aish, ellis – dunstan, crouch
RUC: lobbe, sandilands – currie, king
FWD: dangerfield, martin, roughead, t.mitchell, caddy, rohan – kennedy harris, merrett

only issue is – t.mithcell and caddy or parker and higgins + ~65k. other than that im pretty happy but feedback would be good!

@FroggyLawson

looks like a very strong team Daniel, Bachar Houli is an interesting POD. Parker Higgins for me, I'm not convinced Tom Mitchell will be as good as everyone thinks, need to look at his last couple scores at the end of last year. But I'm happy for him to prove me wrong, and Caddy will be a great choice if he gets a run in the mid. Higgins is a burn man but I see a lot of value in him at 254. Parker has a lot of guns around him and I'm not sure how much influence he can put into a game with all the gun midfielders at Sydney, not in my team but I see him doing better than Tom Mitchell
Bloody good team though Daniel

Dogs

Good looking team, the more I see the 4-4 midfield the more I want to convert,lol. I have titch in the forwards too but if I change to a 4-4 I might use the cash to upgrade him to a higher scorer

Derek

thing that stands out for me is the 4 Premium/6 Rookie MIDS. This is great for cash generation and therefore a strong showing in the Leagues. Are you going for League wins or overall ranking?

Kevan

Big dilemma community, will play a 2 rookie midfield, but who to chose out of Dunstan/Polec/Aish for points round 1. Any healthy debate would be appreciated.

PJ8

I would go Polec and Dunstan for Rd 1. Polec in good form and Saints have next to no midfield Rd 1 so Dunstan should get some good time in there.

Nothing wrong with Aish but he is playing Hawthorn.

Kevan

Makes great sense. Brisbane have a tough draw, Dunstan will get plenty of time on the ground as well. Thanks PJ8.

PJ8

No worries mate. Yeah I will be going with Aish in my team but may bench him Rd 1.

Maybe you could have a look at my team posted below. Would love to know what you think?

Derek

i'm not keen on the $170k+ rookies. I'm sticking with the dirt cheapies and get max cash generation.

Dabman

Thought on my team?

DEF: MItchell, Enright, Suckling, Hanley, L.Mcdonald, A georgiou, BENCH: T. Cutler, M.fuller
MID: Ablett, Rockliff, Fyfe, Beams, Ziebell, X.Ellis, V.Mitchie, J.aish BENCH: L.Dunstan, M.Crouch
RUCK: Mcevoy, Grundy BENCH: Derlichx, Thurlow
FWD: Danger, Wright, Dusty, Wingard, j.Caddy, G.rohan BENCH: JKH, M. Mcdonough

Thanks Guys!

Michael C.

Not sure if any of A georgiou, T. Cutler, M.fuller will play in week 1. Wait for teams and look out for Langford, Langdon, Clurey, Litherland get a guernsey instead. Maybe upgrade one to Webster/Suckling and downgrade a mid to a rookie – more value there than in defense.

Stafa

G'day guys – a newbie to the Form and would love some feedback on my Team.
Thanks in advance for your comments and help.
DEF
J. Bartel – S.Hurn – D Swallow
Suckling – L.McDonald – J Laidler
(Langford, Clurey)
MID
G. Ablett – S. Pendlebury – S. Mitchell – D. Beams
T.Mitchell – V. Mitchie – J. Polac – D.Sheed
(L.Dunstan, Wanganeen)
Rucks
McEvoy – Sandilands
FORWARDS
P.Dangerfield – D.Martin – J-Gunston
J.Cameron – J.Caddy – J.Daniher
(N.Bock – S.Lloyd)
Aiming for a good even mix with plenty of moneymakers (who isn't eh?)

Michael C.

Interesting forward line – lots of pods. Wanganeen, if he plays, may be a best candidate – there are probably better rookies to choose.

Stafa

ta mate, Lloyd is doubtful i agree. Impey seems popular and i have plenty of pods anyway.

yes I do hav bacon

Bock probly won’t be named round 1 and he’s a fair chunk of cash to start on the bench, maybe swap him for a cheapie and use the cash to upgrade elsewhere? Nice pod’s!

@FroggyLawson

G'day community, it's always a fine day after a podcast from a few great men!
First post on here, a review of my team would be bloody appreciated

DEF: J Mcveigh, S Mitchell, J Adcock, M Suckling, L McDonald, T Langdon
EMG: T Clurey, W Langford
MID: G Ablett, D Swan, JP Kennedy, D Beams, D Thomas, D Tyson, J Polec, L Dunstan
EMG: J Aish, N Robertson
RUC: B Mcevoy, A Sandilands
EMG: T Derickx, D Currie
FOR: P Dangerfield, D Martin, C Wingard, M Wright, S Higgins, G Rohan
EMG: J Kennedy-Harris, S Kersten

I've tried not to get to sucked in to the 400-500 priced players but bloody Higgins is to much value to refuse.
Thanks Community

Wattsieesq

Pretty nice team FL. I like Adcock as a POD but with daisy, Sandi, Wright and Burnman, that is some risks you are taking. Easy trade downs though. I'm not sure if Kersten will play first up. Have a look at the rookie cheat sheet for options to replace him.

@FroggyLawson

That is brilliant Wattsieesq, im not shy of taking a few risks. My mains concerns would be Daisy and Sandi but if most other teams have him we will all be in the same position and I wouldn't want to miss out on them if they have a good year!

SCaddict

Another ripping podcast as we've all come to expect. Definitely sensed an air of uncertainty in the bungalow. Sounds like you blokes are planning a number of changes to your team reveals from last week.

Though can hardly blame you as we are all in the same boat here. The fact that this rookie class doesn't appear to be as strong as some other years combined with their elevated pricing does naturally lend itself to a bit more anxiety and second guessing than seasons past.

But as a community I'm confident we can get though these testing times and ultimately prosper!

Looking forward to Crouching's and Mad Mick's team reveals later this week!

I have a DRAFT league looking for entrants, code=322372. Anyone can join.

Michael C.

Just signed up – first I've joined from this beautiful forum. I hope I haven't bitten off too much, taking on a legendary contributor. Always read your posts.

SCaddict

Cheers Michael!

Shinboner