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Here’s my first revision of the 2014 Premium cheat sheet

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I wish I had $20million to spend now!
Thanks another awesome cheat sheet Jock!




My thoughts on Swanny…

I think with the full return of Beams, and the Pendlebury machine running full tilt, in tandem with the supporting acts of Ball and Sidebum who often produce some fantastic premo scores, I can't see how Swan can guarantee us with consistently exceptional scoring.

I just think that when picking the premos for your team, can they do just that; GUARANTEE us with consistently exceptional scoring? (Although Stanton did make the cheat sheet…)

I do need to eat my words a little though, because last season (with an SC ave of 117.5) was the first season he aveaged less than 120 since 2008! He is proven, but I feel things may be a little different this year. I do agree though, he is an omission from the sheet none-the-less.


I wouldn't be so sure about Swanny. I read this while doing a bit of research on

Having had the same operation on his right wrist five years ago, Swan is now looking forward to playing with two strong hands for the first time since 2008.

"I'm actually really looking forward to being able to tackle with two hands and be able to fend off with my left hand and just be able to use both hands without hurting," Swan said on Monday night.

"I hurt my right one about five years ago so I haven't really had two strong hands for about five years so it will be nice to have that."


I feel as if it doesn't matter how loaded the Collingwood midfield is, they all manage to score quite well. Swan looks like hes in good form.

I think the better question is, are there better options for around the same value or even cheaper. So many good options for the midfield this year.


Great work again Jock, curious as to why Selwood is left out; expected to start slowly and build like last year?

I feel that if the cats are to win games early, they will need Selwood to significantly contribute and influence momentum towards the cats. This can only result in sizable supercoach scores, and for 50k cheaper than Pendles…

Can't help but see a well priced, proven, super premium here! Curious as to your thoughts, as well as the community's.


A very nice POD to start the season, Im onboard with Joel. The injury and his bye will turn many away which is fine by me. Im just hoping he doesnt tear up his one nab challenge game coming up to keep him off everyones radar. Brownlow anyone?


For me he's an upgrade target. I think he'll drop 50k atleast early on and be ripe for bye round upgrade


There is quite a few different options that could make this list, ideally we need to cheat sheet to be like 20 players long for each posi. But I'm sure Jock has better things to do with his time. If you went through all the midfielders that looked like good legit options this year in the 450k+ range, there would be like 50 players there.

Kenny Powers

Will Selwood's scores be affected by the new "ducking" rule as he was the very best at it! It will cut his Frees For to almost zero …


I don’t think we have to worry about that; the man is a protected species.

But in all seriousness I don’t feel the new rule will affect Selwood’s scoring output.


Sending out a strong word Jock recommending only to start with one of Ablett and pendles!
I'm on the fence when deciding Pendles Vs Cotchin +111k… any advice


Go into Preseason Research Index and go into the Stat Interface.
Pendles tonned up 20 times last year……………3 more than Ablett, 4 more than Jelwood, and 5 more than Cotchin.
Does that sound like somebody you should leave out?
I personally wouldn't even consider it for a second


I agree with Jock on this one. Just too much cash to spend on both with all these other value premiums around.

Pendles is still a great selection obviously but I will be picking him up later too.

Changing subjects a little geez anyone who was in doubt about Sandilands has surely locked him away after tonight. Wonder if anyone here won't have him as their R2 now?? Ummm LOCK!


Agree on Sandi, SCaddict. For the amount of time he played both games (70+% TG), he sure seems like he won't be managed the first 10 rounds. And as the Barron said, that's really all we need from him.

Right now my ruck-numdrum is go McE/Lobbe/Sauce + Sandi or Hickey + Sandi. Surely with the latter affording the dynamic SC duo of Gazza-Pendles won't be a problem.


It's obviously doable and many with start with both but I won't be one of them. Would be interested to see a poll on this one.

At this stage plan to roll with a frontline of GAJ, Cotch, JPK and perhaps Jobe if I can squeeze him in depending on the rookie situation.


Poll would interesting on this for sure. Good suggestion.

Right now, Gaz, Pendles, Jobe, JPK, Beams, Daisy. Leaning toward Polec and Ellis to fill the last two slots. Mids not giving me as much grief as defenders and forwards 5-6 players.

Revesby Rogue

Gaz, peddles and Beams share a rd8 bye. You can put 2 on bench but are you planning on trading one of them? Beams?


Hey Double R. Nope. Keeping all. Just limiting the amount of points lost round 8 by only having 3 "big scoring" mids. Have Dusty so that will reduce points as well. Leaning Caddy as well.

So yes I can sub but their scoring average is what I'm trying to plan to offset.


Like your Mid line-up TF similar to mine minus Pendles
Right now i have Gablett, Jobe, Cotch, JPK, Beams, Daisy, Tyson and Polec/Ellis then i have Dunstan and Crouch on the Bench.
But yet Im still not settled on JPK my mind is going in circle with him or Rocky or Fyfe.


Yeah, the rest of mine fill out the same. Going back and forth on Tyson or save cash for Polec and Mitchie. Dunstan and Ellis on the bench. May do Robertson if I want to save some cash.


Sinclair will play the role that NicNat used to, well worth a consideration


Had Sinclair last season and he doesn't look like he got much better. Erratic with his kicking. Seems like he's missing that extra gear you'd like. Pricey for a bench guy. Longer may be worth the extra ducats.


You got on him 12-months too early throttle. Don't beat yourself up over it by reading things into his game that aren't there; he was still a kid then and this is his third year in the system.
When a ruck has 17 kicks in the slipperiest conditions he'll ever face one or two kicks will go astray. When you add the 6 marks, 17 hitouts and 2 goals to the fact that he's a tall unit who is very fast over the ground and I think you'll see all the Lycett fans trading down come round 1.


Ha. Not hard on myself. He's tall but not Sandi tall or anything outstanding. Sure he's got good speed but watched him play a lot and just have a gut no on him. Probably will help the Eagles but would be shocked if he gave had any SC value to provide.


No he's not as tall as Sandi or Cox. His role at Eagles ain't R1 he's the mobile tall fwd who gives Cox a chopout.
With Darling and Kennedy taking 1 & 2 defender and LeCras keeping the mobile defender busy Callum will feel like he's back in the WAFL.
I don't care if only 25% of his points come from hitouts, on the big wide WA ovals with the 4th best defender on him he will do very well indeed. If not, that's what trades are for.
Personally I'm currently going HayMac and Sandi but if the Mac breaks before the first bounce I'll replace him with sinclair and spend the extra 50K to get a Mitchell or Parker at F5


Sounds like you've built quite a rucks roller coaster. Hope the ride is good and the bumps are few, my man.


Sinclair and Woods are a little too pricey to have on bench and if you start with them as an R2 job security will be a concern, I think you'll be wasting a trade and points you could have if you start with Sandi or Hickey.


Sandi is surely the supreme Ruckman in the league when fit?
I've gone Sauce and Sandi, Locked and Loaded. Sauce looked great the other night and is definitely moving a hell of a lot better than last year. He also seems to have improved his around the ground play as well.


Yes Sauce is at the top of my list too for an R1 but haven't locked him just yet. Want to get another look at Hickey as well as Hmac on Friday. Also both Pyke and McEvoy are still in the frame but Sauce is my front runner right now.


Is anyone else thinking about a gamble on Hampson now that Maric is out?
Love to hear everyone’s thoughts.


Yep I thought about it but then I realised that having him in SC wouldn't lead to Megan Gale making a visit to the wombat burrow so I dropped him to chase points.

Seriously he is a an option but a very risky option. When he's on he marks everything that comes near him but I reckon it will take a while before the Tiges midfielders build confidence in him


Its been 20 days now and I have had 20 different teams LOLOLOL


What's everyone's thoughts on Luke Dahlhaus?


Lock for me at the moment, $425,900 is very good value for someone I believe could avg close to 100.


He hasn't quite mad eit into my team at any point yet but watching closely. He comes in at the similar price point as TMitchell, Parker, Zorko, etc and will be ahrd to fit more than two in. Big watch for me and decide before R1


Dal Santo can not trust him because of being tagged!!!!!
What's everyone's thoughts….


Should have a great year at his new club but not for me. I prefer the inside mids for my premos as they are much harder to tag.

Also don't need another Rd8 mid as I already have 3, perhaps 4 if I pick Matty Crouch.


I sleep better at night knowing Swanny is in my team 🙂


Love the Enright call, Jock. And agree about Dog-Dog and Coxy. Flirted with both but you just put a nail in those R1 coffins.

Pendles…hmmmm. Cheaper than last season. Even more valuable.


Thinking 2012 not last year about Pendles cost. About the same.

Value through the roof, though. Rash will develop every round left off.


Please see my answer above Throttle…………….. 20 Tonnes.


Completely agree, Rocksta!


I've had Enright locked since last month. consistent. Not booming scores but not bust scores either.


SD = 12. 90 average. Nuff said.


Mitchell and Enright….. Defence locks!


Call me Crazy but I just can't see how you can't have both Bartell and Mitchell as locks in your backline.
They will most probably average over 100 for the season, effectively making them equivalent to M4, M5 mids.
Apart from McVeigh, can you conclusively say/expect this for any other defender( Heater could do it but will be very hard at GWS)?


Bartel will be a must in my final squad. Not slotting him in at the jump. More comfortable with Mitchell. At that cost, can't do both and Pendles and Gazza, while filling in for the high priced rooks, many won't even make R1 selects.


Rooks are doing my head in.
I've gone Faz and Rohan F5 and F6 as I feel that all the cheap Forward Rooks are lineball to get many Games. Ill have to wait and see with Faz as he had a 'managed' pre- season and thus may not be fit enough for Rd 1. Nevertheless, baring injury, he should pump out some regular 70-85 scores.
I've Gone Polec and Ellis as M7, M8 because I'm damned if I'm going to spend big dollars on those first year big names. For the cheaper ones, again I don't have enough confidence in them to have them as starters ( apart from Dunstan whom I have on the mid bench).
Down back their isn't much choice. But currently, I only have McD as a first year starting Rook on field in any line.


Backs are giving me migraines, Rocksta. McD might be my D6. Unless my plums grow some and slot Clurey in there. May slot J. Webster in D5 if he looks good against GWS. Pittard, while NABsational, is at an awkward price. Had him last year and was good for a rook price. Not sure.

Polec and Ellis too. Beams and Aish I toy with but P&E a better value. Dunstan will play but prefer him on bench.

My risky POD may be Hunter at F5. DPP yet a tad awkward in price $284K. Looked good in NAB. May try Faz if plums pop a leak. Rohan will be F6 for sure. Wish JKH was playing again. Be nice to slot a cheap rook at F6. Siigh.


How about Franklin?


Its hard to say?
You'd think that Tippett will steal some of his Thunder but in 2008 both Buddy and Roughy played forward and both had magnificent seasons.
I'm personally going to wait and see with Buddy. I'm not a fan of Starting the season with KPP's in any event.
I tell you what though, if Westhoff goes off again early like he did last year, I'm going to get on. He looked magnificent last night and may be ready to get to Elite KPP status.

Kenny Powers

Despite Jock calling him the Stinkmeister and demanding the community sack him, I had the Hoff all of last season, He averaged close enough to the ton for the year and when used as captain against my arch rival he got me the win with a huge 163 (326)!! Get on the HOFFMEISTER!!


Not for me this year…. Sorry buddy. Pavlich looks good tho I reckon…..


As with earlier comments am on about a 20th reshuffle of squad.

GAJ, libba, murph, cotch, beams, daisy, Liam shiels polec are my starting mids. Is this too top heavy or given the

Sandi + hickey ruck is it reqd? Also have Mitch, mcveigh and enright down back.

Query : can shiels step into what seems like a vacant hawks midfield? Is brad hill a better option?

Thanks guys.


Liam Shiels is one to watch for sure. Beware that Clarko does a lot of testing in NAB. If Shiels tags again he's scoring will stagnate. However he's tagging roles has been a super apprenticeship into being a potential breakout player this year if he's NAB role stays for season. LIsten for news I'd say.

Yes I think your MID is top heavy. Pick two out of Murph/Beams/Daisy/Shiels


I don't think Brad Hill is a better option, but you don't necessarily have to stay with Hawthorn. We know there is Shane Savage in that role as well.

I'm awfully tempted by Shiels but you'd hate to make that call then have him play the tag again. Does Hawthorn need to mess with a winning formula?

I've currently got Hickey/Sandi in ruck but only one lock, have to see how the other plays in his last game.


What about Watson excluded from the cheat sheet


ASADA will keep me away for now. If wish they'd give us the final word


Looks like we will be waiting until April now for ASADA final word – they are handing their brief to a retired Judge now.


what are peoples thoughts about zaharakis? will he have a break out year?


He may but there are plenty of mid pricers due for break out years. I;m sure there will be a lot of teams with different players between the $450k and $550k bracket. Do you want to go safe with that pick or take a bit of risk.

I feel like Zaharakis will be playing more on the risky side.


I'm thinking Zaharakis too


Hi everyone.

I’ve put a team together and just wanted the thoughts of the community!

Backs – Mitchell, Grimes, Swallow, Suckling, Jaensch, McDonald.

Subs – Langdon,Georgiou.

Mids – Ablett, Watson, Fyfe, Cotchin, Murphy, Beams, D Thomas, Polec.

Subs- M Crouch, B Ross.

Rucks – Sandilands, Hickey

Subs – A Smith, T Mitchell

Fwds – Dangerfield, Martin, M Wright, Caddy, Higgins, Fasolo.

Subs – J Kennedy-Harris, P Ambrose.

Any help would be much appreciated community!!


Looking good davo. What you reckon about caddy, In for a good year? Ive considered him also


Jaensch prob won't make you much cash I'd say.

Your subs of Ross, Smith, Mitchell, Ambrose probably won't see game time. I can't see any of them playing three games to increase in value.

I'd downgrade one of Murphy/Daisy and upgrade Fasolo in your FWD's too


I don't think having so many non rookies is logical, since most of the good rookies are in the middle.


Midfield is loaded but possibly paying for it in other places.

Your backline has got a few questions and is lacking a bit of depth. Also as much a star as Georgiou has been, hes still on the rookie list. Also feel like your low-mid pricers in your forward line are a bit risky. Higgins is always a risk and not sure if Fasolo and Caddy will make the leap this year. There is probably better options if you trade up into the low $400s and down to the rookies.

Also wanna see Hickey in his next game before I give him the tick of approval.


Hi Dave,

Few left field rookie choices there. P Ambrose and A Smith are still rookie listed. Not sure who T Mitchell is as your R4, typo? Also keep an eye on team sheets to see if Langdon, M Crouch, and Ross are named for round 1.

I'm a fan of having a back up plan if sandilands goes down early without making much coin. I'd look at selecting a rookie ruck/fwd as your R4 and have someone like hale or dixon up forward.

Mid priced madness up forward, the chances of wright, caddy, higgins, and fasolo all having successful years is pretty slim for mine. I'd look at downgrading one of them to a rookie and spending the cash saved elsewhere


Sorry mate, It was meant to be P.Mitchell.

I like having non playing rookies so I can use loopholes for every position.

I agree with the mid priced madness call lol.

Im not a big fan of many rookie Fowards this season..


As per the comments down the bottom, you have that loophole in every position and your foregoing potentially $500,000+ down the road.

Its definetely hard to spot the good forward rookies this season, half of the best ones aren't looking like playing round one as they are not 'top 22' or they are still on the rookie list. But if you look hard I'm sure you can find a few pearlers.


I had dusty in my squad at he the start but after the two nab cup games i game him the flick, i don't like him at half back and i think it will take him some time to adjust too it

i have locked roughie in my squad for the last 3 seasons and haven't touched him but without the ruck dpp im also skeptical on this. anyone else taking in the orange rough ?


Ive always had roughie but havent even considered him this year. Lost alot of appeal.


I had Roughie in the Ruck the season as well!

This season I will stay away. If im picking a Hawks forward im going with Breust or Gunston


Put in best to worst:

guthrie, suckling, pittard

And also do you think isaac smith will be a good pick this year?


Smith was very up and down last year. For 450k there is better value elsewhere


Pretty close between the 3 of them. If i was choosing I would probably go Suckling given hes so cheap and a proven scorer..

Isaac Smith is probably a no go for me as I think he will cop the tag.


Thanks lads


ive had guthrie locked for a few weeks, im a cats supporter so that has something to do with it but after his finals series last year im backing him to explode


As with the rest of these comments, they are pretty close.

We saw Pittard on fire a couple of days ago but you'd like to see that happen consistently, who knows if he just ate some chilis that day.

Guthrie is another POD, if your looking to have a couple of low-mid pricers hes definitely worth a look.

Then theres the 90% of teams that will have Suckling, probably the best option but do you want PODs?


What are people's thought on a Jacobs+Simpson ruck duo? Both are about 100k cheaper than most of the main prospects and I think both have potential to go high 90's-low 100's.


Jacobs I like! Came good late in the season.

Simpson im not sure on. Depends alot on Macintosh really..


I reckon that Jacobs is a risky POD, when you look at the fact that there are quite a few ruckman in the high 400s this year.

I don't see him being in many teams, but with Mummy and Pyke being clear #1's at there perspective team, and Bellchambers injured, Ryder will get a good go.

I feel like there are better options out there.


Gday Jock Jock

What about Joel Sely Selwood

Get around Jocky Boy LA LA


I've posted a bit of feedback for others so thought I would put my current team down. Goes as follows.

DEF: Mitchell, Hibberd, Enright, Suckling, McDonald, Clurey (Langdon, Fuller)
MID: Ablett, Pendles, Libba, Cotchin, Beams, Thomas, Michie, Polec (Crouch, Honeychurch)
RUC: Hickey, Sandi (Nankervis, King)
FWD: Danger, Martin, Wingard, Mitchell, Hogan, McDonough (Taylor, Kennedy-Harris)

I wanna check that Hibberd is right for round one, otherwise happy with the back line.
Am looking for a cheap rookie to take Honeychurch's spot, didn't show enough recently, perhaps just got a bit of big stage fright.
Max King is there as a loophole as I'm fairly sure he won't be getting a game, and I don't think there are many ruck rookie options that will be getting a game.
And want to see Hogan play, before locking him in.


I like it. You confident with tommy mitchell though? I would of lived to put him in. Just bit expensive for a second year player tho I think.


im also running mitchel atm, i pulled zorko out and put mitchel in. not confident on wither atm tho lol


There are a few options at that range who I have entertained. Pav, Bruest and Gunston, Zorko, Robbie Gray etc. Due to change based on what I see in the rest of the NAB Challenge then I'll make the call. But loved what I saw from him through the end of last year and start of this year, doesn't show any indication of slowing down. Also feel like he will score consistently, out of the few above the ones I'm most interested in are Zorko and Gray.


Also very interested in a certain Luke Dahlhaus.


Thoughts and feedback appreciated. 80k Left
1. Mitchell, S
2. Hanley, P
3. Enright, C
4. Grimes, J
5. McDonald, L
6. Cameron, C
23. Fuller, M
24. Georgiou, A

7. Ablett, G
8. Pendlebury, S
9. Jack, K
10. Cotchin, T
11. Beams, D
12. Thomas, D
13. Beams, C
14. Polec, J
25. Dunstan, L
26. Crouch, M

15. McIntosh, H
16. Sandilands, A
27. Currie, D
28. Derickx, T

17. Dangerfield, P
18. Martin, D
19. Franklin, L
20. Caddy, J
21. Rohan, G
22. Kennedy-Harris, J
29. Garlett, D
30. Honeychurch, M


Team looks pretty good, a few PODs. I prefer Aish over C Beams if your determined to get one of them, but I guess its personal preference.

Not set on McIntosh, he hasn't played very many games lately, if your gonna have two rucks that are both coming off big injury layoffs theres a decent risk there. But it could pay off for you.

Also I'd have another look at your rookies before round one, I reckon there may be a few there that won't start the regular season.


Question marks on McIntosh, J.Grimes, C.Beams, D.Currie. Crouching's slipper made a good point, could sell S.Pendlebury and K.Jack into cheaper low $500,000 and high $400,000 players that are likely to breakout and you could save about $300,000 which you could use elsewhere. Also C.Cameron into someone like T.Clurey.


insted of k.jack get selwood


Hey guys thanks so much for the feedback!

I try to put one non playing rookie on each line so I can use the loophole.

People seem to forget you can use the loophole for more than just the Captain.


most people will be doing that for the RUCK line, but you really need your emergency players to be generating cash for you.


Problem is if your sacrificing 4 spots on your list, you could be sacrificing hundreds of thousands in increases in team value. Using a loophole to increase your points a little bit probably isn't worth it.


For me this year has been the toughest in terms of team selection. You can load up on premiums in the midfield but do yourself out of a lot of cash!


I read somewhere that Brent Harvey might end up being a Super Sub!?


Not while hes still at the top of his game. They need his influence as a team leader on the ground, not on the bench. I can see Nahas being a sub.


Not with the form he's in! I can see him in a Giansiracusa role in 2-3 years.


BACKS: Bartell, Mitchell, Hanley, Suckling, McDonald, Laidler
BENCH: Fuller, Cutler

MIDS: Ablett, Pendlebury, Cotchin, Beams, Dale Thomas, Tyson, Aish, Michie
BENCH: Polec, Dunstan

RUCKS: Lobbe, Sandilands
BENCH: Currie, Nankervis

FWDS: Dangerfield, Wingard, Franklin, Zorko, Hogan, Garlett
BENCH: Taylor, Kenedy-Harris

Cash Left $126,500

Tossing up between:
Dom Tyson and Liam Shiels.
Mathew Lobbe and Ben Mcevoy.

Is Jesse Hogan worth the spot?

All comments appreciated.


Hey Ryan,

In my opinion mate you have gone a bit light on in the Mids..

But the fact you have gone hard with your DEFS probably means you will make up the points there.

Liam Shiels and Lobbe. Give Jesse Hogan a miss. Mitch Clark will be the one you want later on.

Not sold on Laidler at all. See how he goes tonight!


Pretty much what Dave has said on the button. Your team has the makings of a good team but might be a little light where the points matter most.

Going with 5 youngsters will mean that your team might appreciate in value but the exchange will be a fair bit of early season points.

I also am not convinced that Laidler will make the side to start the season, he may have to bide his time in the minors.

Will also be interesting to see how Franklin goes tonight, and not sure if Garlett will be starting round one.

I'm waiting to see Melbourne play Geelong before I make the final call on Hogan.


I like it Ryan.
Plenty to score early and plenty to build with.

Laidler was good for a year at Blues but IMO he hasn't done enough to get a spot in swans best 22 for round 1 and I doubt that either of Fuller or Cutler will see game time unless an injury gives them a chance. So try to get a defender who is going to play otherwise you'll get fat on donuts.
Midfield needs another guaranteed 100+
Perhaps consider Thurlow over Currie you probably wont need the points but $ increase will come in handy
Hogan & Garlett wont play in first 3 rounds


Thanks for the input guys, I appreciate it.

I have swapped Tyson for Shiels, Currie for Thurlow, Hogan for Gary Rohan and Laidler for Will Langford.

Only downside is i now have, Mitchell, Suckling and Langford in my Defence.
I have struggled this year for DEF rookies, any Ideas If both Fuller and Cutler won't be playing early?

A couple more questions for you guys:
Fasolo or Rohan?
Garlett for who?
Is it worth getting rid of Wingard for Matty Wright (or someone of his ilk) and then upgrading Shiels for Rockliff?


Having three Hawks in D, probably isnt a massive problem. Id be more looking at the bye round and how many you have missing each round.

Shiels was strongly considered for my own team, but not sure if we will be tagging or let loose in the midfield, if he does get loose, he will be a gun. I would take Rohan over Fasolo, Rohan might not average above 60-70 but you know he will be top 22 and get plenty of game time, Fasolo could still be on the cusp with all the new blood at Collingwood this year and am not set on him.

I feel like Rockliff has been solid as per Jocks cheatsheet but hes pricey and there may be players who will score similarly but be a fair bit cheaper. (Dal Santo?)

Also I think Thurlow is still on the Rookie List, will be good if he is elevated.


Selwood or K. Jack????


Selwood imo, hes got a higher control of the Geelong midfield where I feel Jack has to share it around a fair bit more. I feel with the rise of more and more Sydney midfielders, Jack will score consistnely well, but probably not with the potential that Selwood might.


i have both atm lol. expecting joel to score higher than jack


I assume this is Joel you're referring to. If so, him.


Lads, long time reader first time poster haha.

Been playing this with my oldie and his mates for a few years now and got 2nd last year so would love some help to take first out. not much of an afl genius though know the basics. i'm an nrl man and can help you lads with any nrl tips if anyone needs it!

I'm running the following squad and would love some advise.

Mitchell, Hanley, Swallow, Suckling, McDonald, Clurey – Fuller, Georgiou

Ablett, Penlez, Cotchin, Beams, Thomas, Shiels, Ellis, Dunstan – Crouch, Robertson

Minson, Sand – Thurlow, Nankervis

Danger, Martin, Franklin, Mitchell, Caddy, JKH – Merrett, Honeychurch.

My main questions is Langdon worth getting in from Pies as a bench mid or def. If so who for?

If I downgrade Big Will Minson (had him early last year and earnt a lot of love for me by just killing it for me) to someone. WHO?

I was looking at upgrading Suckling to McVeigh if I did downgrade big Will as I have about 60k in the bank already.

Is Caddy worth the risk? I was looking at Hogan though not sure there. Mitchell and Franklin I have question marks over too though I just don't know who else I'd take…

Hanley a lock at D2? Is there someone else I should consider instead?

Thanks for your times guys and I mean it any help for NRL can be returned 😀


Great first Post Beard! Welcome!

Im personally going really cheap in the Rucks this season – But thats also a massive risk!
You can downgrade Minson to Grundy, Hickey or Macintosh if you really wanted to..
Otherwise if youre not looking to downgrade that far, go with Ryder or Lobbe.

I have Josh Caddy. worth the risk I think. Without chappy and Corey should get ample time in the middle.
Put Tom Langdon on your bench instead of Fuller. We havent seen Fuller this preseason. Wont be there round 1 at least.

Keep your forward line the way it is. A lot of people are worried about the second year blues for Mitchell.
Downgrading slightly to Zorko could be an option for you… Or even Robbie Gray as a bit of a POD.

You need to have Polec in your midfield! He could be the next Karnezis but again too cheap to pass up..

Good luck with it all mate and look foward to future posts 🙂


Thanks mate I appreciate it.

So I might take out Fuller put Langdon in.

Get rid of Robertson and take Polec…

What about the idea of downgrading Minson to either Ryder or someone like Nic Nat…

The reason to it is I could look at upgrading Suckling to someone like McVeigh?

Not sure what is the better option.


Suckling should perform and make some coin so no point upgrading him just yet.

also i would stay away from nic nat at the start, we dont know how that groin is going and they going
to be very cautious with him to get him right


Thanks mate I appreciate it.

Ok what about upgrading Swallow to Mcveigh or am I better keeping Minson and leaving Swallow and Suckling as is…


I'd leave it as is. I'm not convinced that McVeigh will match his output of last year. Maybe get him in when his price drops.


Yeah I like that move Beard. I expect Macca is in for a great year and there are probably better value options than Big Will for R1, Sauce, Lobbe, Pyke, McEvoy, Ryder etc.

Enright is another to look at for your defence as per Jock's cheat sheet if Macca's price is too steep for you.

Btw I know this is an AFL site but how's your NRL Fantasy team looking?


Yeh. Who is this Sauce?

Was put off with Lobbes preformance other day.

What position did you want to know about in the League mate?


Lobbe is alright don't worry about him, didn't see full game time which he will in H&A, they are only playing Renouf to save Lobbe from injury, Renouf is not in PA's plans for a 2 ruck attack, you need 2 genuine rucks for that and renouf is only a half! Sauce Jacobs



So is Lobbe or Jacobs better option or Hamish?


I think there are certainly rucks that should provide pretty good value in the $450k-$520k bracket so you might find some value in downgrading Minson, I can't see him maintaining all of last years pace so he might drop a bit in value.

Otherwise I think your squad looks pretty good, only worry is that you have some players on the rookie list that would need to be elevated, otherwise your gonna have some donuts.

I know Jock has mentioned Caddy a few times, but I'm not convinced hes the real deal yet. There are plenty of forward options between $430k-$490k if your not set on Mitchell and Franklin. Gunston, Breust, R Gray, Zorko, Mayne etc


I like Franklin and don't mind Mitchell I just am open to swapping them if someone had valid reasons. As I've said I'm not a book of info on AFL like I am on League 😛

Zorko burnt me last year and him playing out of the mid deters me.


I have dusty, buddy, dangerfield & 4 rookies. I need another player with 500k to spend…


for fwd?
most common are Mitchel, Zorko but there are a few other options, look for someone who gets some time through the midfield as well


Take a punt on dahlhous. 425k. Reckon he'll be running through the mids this year




Rioli mate will be back mark my words


Like RIoli and Gunston


Thanks Jock I'd forgotten all about Enright and was stressing on how to replace Hibbard
I've been using v2.0 of the Rookie cheat-sheet in the bottom of the budgy cage for a few days now and I was wondering when v3.0 might be available 🙂


hibbard should be right for round 1?


I'm going in with both Hibberd and Enright, assuming the former is set for round one. The combined 1 million is worth every penny if it means lessening a repeat of SC Defenders 2013.


Likewise. Hanley is the spot holder until I hear Hibberd is 100% for R1. Didn't look that severe. Never know with him and his hammies, though.


Thats a real solid combo who's filling D5&6


Severe flux those positions. Toying with Webster and McD or McD and Clurey. Like Pittard but a little too pricey. Would have to swing a lot to fit him in. Can't do off one NAB game.

How bout you?


Obviously flexible but I'm considering 2 of watson, mcdonald,pittard,georgiou


I have SuperCoach diabetes which means I can't accept Donuts


Can't see Clurey doing a donut. Outside McD, he has the strongest chance of making 22 of the rook Defs. But I hear ya.

Why you like Watson so much, if you don't mind sharing, oh Wombatty one.


So how are you coping with the celebrity status of being a Podcast star?


Really haven't had a moment to catch my breath to be honest with you. The surge of media calls I've hired an intern to handle, so that's not too bad. But the women folk at the office have been swarming me like an inside 50 to Buddy. And the reaction from the Dusty-ettes?Well, I'm sure your imagination can fill in the blanks.


Well don't be suprised when Lara Bingle comes knocking on your door I hear that she is in town and she hits a publicity opportunity like Derek Kickett used to hit a Sherrin


Is that name even worth Googling? Or should I just assume the worst?


Definately google it she just had Sam Worthington from that blue alien movie locked in NYC!


Integral to the team. Tall, solid, Great mark, hardly ever loses a marking contest i.e he spoils if he can't mark, deceptively fast, makes the right decision more than 95% of the time and he's the go to man for the big kick out of defense.
I think everybody will be as impressed by his footskills by round 9 as most blues supporters are now.
Alternatively you could (like everybody else) spend the extra 50k and go with a broken down hack with dodgy knees who's trying to break into a grand final team after yet more surgery.


Gee, wonder who that could be?

Not leaning his way for the reasons you stated. Since you do have great insights into the Blues, will take a look into him. Considering Jimmy Webster if he has a game like N1.


I haven't even looked at Jimmy Webster which means he didn't do anything during nab that made me think "wow he knows what he's doing" or, it just means that I was watching some other prospect everytime Jimmy went near the ball or, I never saw his number


First Nab: 11 disposals, 75%DE, 6 tackles and only on the field 56% for 93 SC points.

#29. Look for him vs. GWS, my friend.


What's his status? Is he on the list or still rookie?


Yep he's on the senior list. I'll definately have a look at him seeing as what's his name is injured




Sorry about the late reply, I thought the message had been processed through the email reply system last night. My defense looks like this: Mitchell, Hibberd, Enright, Broadbent, Hansen, Luke Mac.


Hi Shinboner,
Hansen & Broadbent hmm. I'd been lookin hard at broadbent but never considered Hansen. is that just an Arden St bias or do you think he can deliver on the investment?


L. McDonald




Ill obviously change some of the rookies based on round 1 team sheets but a few players have me nervous
main concerns are



Hey community, here's a little question I thought i'd run past you.

Two premiums not mentioned here, JPK and KayJack.

Q: What's the biggest downfall to either of them?
A: Eachother

Had a quick look back through last season and it's rare you'll find both of them having a 110+ Game
However, if you add their scores together they often will share in around 220-240 points a game.
Now for 590k for jack and 570K for JPK, that means that for $1.16m you will be getting an average return of around 230 points. compare that to Yablett and Pendles who will cost you 220k more and give you an average return of 254 points a game, then the double swans route wouldn't be a bad one to consider. Now add into that equation the fact JPK had a fairly quiet year last year and you could see the value increase even more.

Food for thought.


I guess the attraction is that on any given day, Ablett or Pendles could score you a 150 on there own.

Same with Dane Swan…

You wont get that from Jack or JPK. At best this season you can expect maybe a 130.


agreed, I would definitely still start with at least one of those two in my team as a set and forget captain, I was thinking more as an option for M3 and M4 until the Bye rounds


2012's rendition of JPK was able to hit 130+ for fun on a regular basis. When he scores big, he scores big!


I wonder how T.Mitchell, Hannebery, O' Keefe and even McVeigh and Parker will affect JPK and K. Jack's scoring? These are all talented players all capable of serious midfield time.


You also have to consider the guys that won't be in the midfield anymore who were taking points in 2012/2013. Goodes and Bolton have made way for Parker and Hannebery, so overall I think it stays pretty even.


Did you take into account the double points for captain?


a couple questions..

1) whos this Mcdonald everyone seems to have? melb or kangas one? any good?

2) Mcveigh or bartel? (already have mitchell. and Dustin or Danger?

Big questions!


Its Luke, the North Father – Son Selection, he spent last year in the VFL and was pretty good.

Tom Mcdonald from Melbourne is also pretty good although about double the price.


Lukey McDonald, who will go on to eclipse his father's status at the club, mark my words! Special talent.


A lesson learnt from last year was a 500k+ defender didn't necessarily translate into a guaranteed 90-100 nor did a guarantee any form of consistency (I'm looking at you birchall!)

A lot of the teams in this thread have 2-3 of these guys (Mitchell/Hanley/McVeigh/Enright/Hibbo etc) Is it worth jumping on some lower level guys (Swallow, Hurn, Rance etc) and wait to see who of 500k+ types can be a consistent scorer?


mate i was thinking about birchall.. reckon he could be good this year. what do you think?


Ive taken that approach.
I have Mitchell as my premo, and have taken Swallow and Grimes as my D2 AND D3.

Would rather spend extra cash on Mids.

Rick Grimes

Yea seriously asking myself the same thing Kev. I'd be pretty happy with a def scoring 80-90 consistently rather than a bloke who can bang out 150 one week and 50 the next.


You could take that approach but I'm of the point of view that what you want at the end of the season is premo's in all positions, I feel like at some stage Swallow/Rance etc are gonna have to be traded up meaning you would have to blow a trade to get rid of them.

I feel like the players with awkward prices need to be making you the same amount of points as the premos and they will generate some cash as well.

The averages of the defs you mentioned above is gonna be somewhere between 95-105 and the 2nd tier you mentioned is probably 80-90.

I think you need to find the balance of scoring points and cash generation so that you have enough room to make upgrades later on.

For me I'd prefer Mitchell/Suckling to Swallow/Rance.


I agree with Avzmo, the goal is to have all premiums at the end of the year (sooner if possible) the mid price players get in the way of that unless they are a suckling or Thomas and you can get them out early for a premium.

I am going with premium & rookie/wookie plan. Except for Sandi, Suckling & Thomas as my only Mid pricers.


I'm seriously considering Hurn over Enright. Slightly cheaper, and could be set for a good year, but Enright is Mr Consistency


I think guys like Mitchell or McVeigh or even bartell who will spend a lot of time in the middle can't really be compared to the other defenders. Everybody will have them by round 15 so how soon you get them will have great influence on how well you do for the season


Everyones thoughts on Jackson Macrae? I think he could be a good breakout contender, also had a great NAB cup. We have seen second draftees breakout before like Wingard.


Not a bad call considering the tag will go to Griffen or Libba…

But you would have to choose him over the likes of Daisy Thomas and Shiels..

If you went the approach of 4 Premos, 2 Mid Pricers and 2 rookie priced guys, you can fit him in.


You've also got to consider that just as many players have second year blues as they do stellar second years. Just because Wingard did it, doesn't mean that Macrae will.

But could be a fascinating POD


Is anyone putting Jack Martin in??


I think people are turned off by his price and his lack of progress in the NAB Challenge. He will still score alright but there are so many mid rookies to consider that have showed good form in the NAB Challenge. Why would you want to spend another $50k for something that is looking quite average.


Agreed mate. Im quite happy to go with Polex and X Ellis over Martin!




No, too many better options for less cash.


Not me. I'm turned off by his price, rather than his NAB performances. He will be fed by Prestia, Ablett, Risch, Bennell and O'Meara this year, as opposed to the last NAB game where he had only Bennell.

Rick Grimes

What are communities thoughts on Trent McKenzie? Pretty solid last year, not gonna score huge but consistent.

Also, Barlow or Fyfe? – can't separate them

Also, keep coming back to Reiwoldt. Big ticker that bloke, scored very well early rounds last year from memory.


I thought last year that his best years were behind him, I guess you can say the same about Boomer Harvey, but they just keep on keeping on.

If you pick him you just have to hope that this isn't the year he starts to slow. Also I see St Kilda in more of a transitional phase this year and at the bottom of the ladder, so that could affect his scores.


I think Reiwoldt will still average around 100 and I think hes a safe bet.

But for that price I would rather save $100k or so and take a couple of risks with others..


you said it "not gonna score huge"! spend your money elsewhere.

I'm not going to have either, but if I had to I would easily go Fyfe.

Roo is expensive. better return on your money with PAV or Buddy

Rick Grimes

Agree on Pav, wait and see on Buddy. Burned me a bit last year and don't know how his scoring will be in the Sydney set-up.

For defenders I prefer a steady output rather than 150 one week and 50 the next. 80 one week and 100 the next is a whole lot easier to plan around. Plus you pay for what you get.


I've had Mck on the radar for a while, just tossing up between him, Hurn, Swallow, Enright. Will probably come down to available cash after other lines are finalised.


Barlow = consistency
Fyfe = riskier/higher potential


Who are people rating as the ruckmand sub 500k???

Worked out sauce is Sam Jacobs, or Patty Ryder seeing Bellchambers is out?

Or someone else?


yeah jacobs should be in for a good season, really hit his straps back end of last year.

ive got sandilands in my squad, was fantastic last night and if he stays fit should dominate imo


Defeinetely is a fwe more under that price. Mummy, Pyke and Lobbe are up for good years.


Reckon I'll go Jacobs/Sandi combo. Both looking good!


Also Polec or Aish or Beams?


that order
polec > aish > beams






This is my team for now, just seeing how the defense could be set up so there is't much risk in players starting in round 1.
McDonald is in the midfield to swing Mitchell or Hanley

i think these 3 defenders could earn some good cash $100,000 each at least
Suckling 70-75 pts 65-70 pts (Crows are going to use this guy all year, has plenty of spring in his legs, good in NAB so far and no Henderson!)
R.Shaw 65-70 pts (could avg high 70's – low 80's, start with easy draw)

Anyway here's a look:

DEF Mitchell, Hanley, Enright, Suckling, R.Shaw, S,Shaw (Langford, Gorgiou)
MID Ablett, Fyfe, Cotchin, Priddis, Beams, McDonald, Polec, X.Ellis (Crouch, Honeychurch)
RCK Jacobs, Sandilands (Apeness, Nankervis)
FWD Dangerfield, Martin, Franklin, Rioli, Rohan, JKH (Thurlow, taylor)

This team is forever changing and rookies will changing the most I'm sure.
Hope this is a good example of no risk defensive structure.


Team looks pretty clean to me, a few PODS in the midfield and forward from what I've seen.

Rhyce's consistency can be a problem, are you hoping for him to make you cash and trade up at some stage?


We'll I feel that he would be most likely to cash in first seeing as Sydney have a soft start to the season hope he can avg 75+ after the first 5 rounds and snap take the money and run.


So after the help I have received tell me what you think of the new version lads.

McVeigh, Mitchell, Hanley, Suckling, McDonald, Clurley – Langdon, Georgiou

Ablett, Pendles, Cotchin, Beams, Thomas, Shiel, Polec, Ellis – Dunstan, Crouch

Jacobs, Sandil – Thurlow, Nankervis

Dangerfield, Martin, Franklin, Mitchell, Caddy, JKH – Merrett, Honeychurch

15k in the bank.



I like it, the one change I might make is to get Caddy out for a rookie, or cheaper option and trade up on Shiel or Thomas, the midfield is going to make the most of your points and you only have 4 elite/premos.

Just my point of view, your way however will probably generate more cash so will be better for league wins because you might have the stronger squad come finals time, if your going for total points, you might want more premos early.


I agree and disagree with Avzmo, I agree because he is right. However what I think is making it hard this year is most of the good rookies so far are in the midfield and there is also some serious value in some premiums.

So if you go in with a lot of premiums in your midfield you are cancelling out the rookies that are guaranteed game time and will make money. Hard decisions.

Otherwise your team looks fairly sound to me.


Looking good so far


hey people just wondering your thought on my teams

def: Mitchell, walker,, suckling, McVeigh, fuller (tippet, Langford)
Mid: Ablett, swan, cotchin, J selwood, beams, Thomas, ellis, polec ( wanganeen, tyson)
Ruck: Sandi, Mcintosh ( currie, longer)
Fwd: danger, martin, franklin, m.wright, fasolo, rohan (honeychurch, kennedy-harris) $134,200 left over

Def: Walker, McVeigh,, D.swallow, suckling, fuller (tippet, Langford)
Mid: Ablett, pendles, murphy, beams, Thomas, Tyson, polec, ellis ( wanganeen, crouch)
Ruck: Sandi, Mcintosh ( wood, currie)
Fwd: Danger, Martin, franklin, watts, fasolo, rohan (impey, honeychurch) $130,600 left over

think I got too many hawks players but they will go quickly before bye rounds


Can't really speak for DreamTeam, but SC seems a bit all over the shop. As per jock's cheat sheets I think you'll lose value and be disappointed by Walker and H Shaw in D, your a bit shallow in mid, and Franklin besides your top two in the forward line, the rest are questionable. Rohan may be a good pick up, Franklin MAY do well, but not def.

Id be looking to give this team an overhaul.


you can never have too many Hawks 🙂


Tippett is rookie listed.


Two premos not mentioned this year: Chris Judd and Matthew Boyd! After years and years of consistent premium output, both had an under-par 2013. Has anyone considered these veteran guns!?


Matty Boyd Absolutely!

Just really awkward price tag when you consider whos around him…

Basically choosing 2 of Boyd, Fyfe, Cotchin, JPK, Rockliff, Watson and Libba.

3 of those max…


Considered Boyd but man that cash ouch at his age. Plus Libba, Cooney and Giff




Will not consider either, they are both getting older and are being replaced by younger guns. They will continue to decline in value in my opinion.


It's a hard one, Murph will probably get the tag now, so Judd could go really well, but it's an unknown. They are in that awkward price bracket now where it's hard to guage if they will fall off, stay roughly the same, or possibly improve because other blokes are getting the tag.

If they start well we can always trade them in I spose!


Boyd's calves are as bad as Chappy's hamstrings. I don't let personal opinion get in the way, but I despise Judd (chicken wing). Regardless, he is getting on in age and will fail to eclipse last year's sub-100 average. Boyd is my choice of the two – still a proficient ball-winner and a key cog in the Bulldogs midfield.

cyril is the man

No, both over the hill and injury prone


Yeah, they did that with Simon Black. Maturity management, keep them off for 1-3 quarters then bring them on to have an influence. Wouldn't have thought Boomer was at that stage yet though. Don't think he'll see the vest too often.


Jack steven out for 6 weeks


Looks like 8-10 now


Hey there community, My team is pretty much set, with only 1 problem. Who to go with M2. I currently have: Gazza, Watson, Beams, Murphy, Thomas, Polec, Michie, Ellis, Dunstan. So I can afford another rd8 bye midfielder, not round 9 and round 10 can fit in very well. I have 636k to spend on M2 and I am tossing up between Swan, Cotchin, Dal Santo and K Jack. Keeping bye rounds in mind, who would be the best out of these and other mid premos. Also I am not really looing at Dal Santo all that much, he's just in there due to his price.


By choosing cotchin or someone cheaper, means I can turn rioli into a wingard, which is what makes this an extremely difficult decision to make.


I would go with Swan, absolutely proven and is going to start the season with stronger hands


cotchin by the length of the straight


Swan is a proven ball hog, but if it was me I would find the extra cash to get Pendles. Pure Class. Cotchin could be in for a big one though


Never posted a team before but here goes…

need a lot of help, reckon after 1000 tweaks i'm at my worst team yet!!!!! might need a reset! HEEEELLLLPPPP

Mitchell – Hibberd – Enright – Suckling – McDonald – Clurey (Langdon, Cutler)
GAJ – Priddis – NickDal – Beams – Shuey – Daisy – Polec – Xcel ( Dunstan, Crouch)
Pyke – Sandi (Thurlow, King "0")
Danger – Martin – Buddy – Gunston – Hawkins – Rohan (Apeman, JHK)

<<<NOT FOR SALE> >> Mitchell, GAJ, Priddis, Beams, Shuey, Sandi, Danger, Gunston

Go hard, be ruthless


OK so even writing that down helped me a bit…… maybe

– just dropped Hibberd for Birchall
– Apeman for a cheaper rook
– upped NickDal to Mundy



Looks good, pretty std line-up except for a couple of inclusions/exclusions

1. I would probably make some cash to have another elite premium in the Mid like Pendles or Jobe.

2. I'm not a Hawkins fan, he's a KPF and was an absolute spud last year. I know he was carrying a back injury, but I just dont rate him that highly. Gunston is another KPF who could go well or poorly. I will be trying to steer clear of KPF at all costs this season as they have burnt me more than anyone else in my Supercoach Career.

3. Cutler may not play R1 either, but all other rookies are on most peoples watch list.


Thoughts community?

DEF-Bartel,Mitchell,Enright,rance,Suckling, K Kolodjashnij (McDonald,Fuller)

MID-Ablett,Cotchin,,Dal Santo, Hanley, Zorko, Aish, Sheed, Dunstan,(Crouch,Honeychurch)

RUCK- Lobbe, Sandilands (Nankervis,Durrie)

FWD-Martin,Dixon,Franklin, J Riewoldt, Rohan, Garlett, (Markworth, Kennedy-Harris)

67k in the bank, not sure where to use it.