Analysis of the St Kilda v Western Bulldogs game:

Reasonable first hit out by my beloved Saints community. Proud of the boys.

However it wasn’t a great night to get some solid predictable fantasy footy formlines:

  • Was wet as buggery, game almost washed out. Tough to get a grip on any solid preseason form and structure.
  • Very disappointed not to see Fuller, Honeychurch, Markworth get a game. Both teams has significant OUTS on all lines.
  • Saw enough in Luke Dunstan to keep him up around my first rookie selected this season. $132,000 and will play plenty. Ran with the Dogs big boys, got plenty of contested ball in his limited game time. Jack Billings – no at his price at this stage. Didn’t see much game time but didn’t show much when he had a gallop.
  • Jack Steven, Libba, Armitage, Dahlhaus – any of these blokes could go the next level. Not sure enough at this stage to lock any of them in though at this stahe.
  • Savage will be a very solid pickup for the Saints and will make you some cash. Question is will he make enough to make his selection worthwhile? No for me at this stage.
  • Tom Hickey will toil in the ruck serviceably and warrants some thought as your R2 or R3.

How did you see the game community?

Jock Reynolds

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36 Comments

Sarah · 20/02/2014 at 10:29

Didn't realise Dunstan only played 50% game time. Makes his score look even better!

Kev · 20/02/2014 at 10:33

Just on templeton, still on the rookie list atm. Not sure if saints have a spot on senior list?
Liked Libba – wet weather or not he has runs on the board from last year

twindbag86 · 20/02/2014 at 11:16

Toot toot… all aboard the Libba bandwagon… there goes my POD!!!

Quick poll community –

Jack Steven or Nat Teenwolf Fyfe???

    PJ8 · 20/02/2014 at 11:21

    Tough one Twindbag. Probably couldn't go wrong with either, but Fyfe for me. Only reason being Freo will win a lot more games than the Saints (and I'm a Saints man)

      twindbag86 · 20/02/2014 at 11:39

      Thanks for the input PJ8. That being said though, it's not as though the Saints won a stack of games last year compared to Freo and their numbers still stacked up pretty well against one another.

      I notice Steven hasn't really been discussed a lot when people are stacking up their midfields… what is the feeling – overpriced?

      One of the big factors to consider is who will attract the tag at both respective clubs?
      I would think maybe Montagna would attract the tag before Steven.
      At Freo, possibly Barlow before Fyfe?

      What do you reckon?

        PJ8 · 20/02/2014 at 11:55

        I'm not saying at all that Steven will drop off or over-priced. Think he defiantly will Average 105-110. As I said I don't think you can go wrong with this selection. Just my opinion that Fyfe has been coming on for a couple of years now and think he can breakout to a 115 average.

        Also on the tagging, I would think that Steven would now be one of only 2 players other teams would tag (along with Joey Montagna) now that Dal as gone.

        Freo have Munday and Barlow as well as Fyfe as possible tagged players. An extra player for other teams to go for. Plus, Fyfe won't have Crowley tagging him haha.

          benisbill · 20/02/2014 at 17:57

          Don't forget Stephen Hill – always the first tagged at Freo.

        Grufflez · 20/02/2014 at 13:38

        Steven WILL get the tag.

    Fourbells · 20/02/2014 at 12:27

    Still think Teenwolf has it over both Steven and Liberatore at this stage, although the bulldogs seem to have the easier draw

      twindbag86 · 20/02/2014 at 12:54

      There's a few players who are in similar categories I reckon that are tough to make calls on (Kieran Jack, Rory Sloane, Scott Selwood)… they are at an awkward price where they HAVE to perform otherwise they are going to burn you real fast… but all potential PODs

        PJ8 · 20/02/2014 at 12:55

        Sloane, Jack, Selwood in that order

        twindbag86 · 20/02/2014 at 16:05

        The winners though are those who are going to be prepared to take a punt – if you play conservative and pick the same blokes that everyone else chooses, you will be do alright but won't go anywhere near winning the thing.

        It is that reasoning that I am starting to have doubts over blokes like Jack Martin – very high price for a rookie that every man and his dog is picking and is potentially going to earn the same coin as someone significantly cheaper, like Ellis, Crouch, etc… Unless Martin is going to get that extra 50 points in output than those guys, I don't reckon it is worth the extra coin.

    Blueblood · 20/02/2014 at 18:06

    with Montagna out round 1, i think Steven will get the tag..you can bet Roosy will be trying to shut him down but Macaffer might also go to Fyfe; tough one for round 1 Twindbag; honestly flip a coin

PJ8 · 20/02/2014 at 11:26

Big Will looks like he will be the dominant ruckman again this year. 30 hit outs from 47% game time.

PJ8 · 20/02/2014 at 11:29

Also have to agree with you Jock. Very happy as a Saints fan last night. It wasn't looking good in the first quarter but was a good fight back in the second and played well for the rest of the game.

Lot of youngsters to get excited about.

Bob · 20/02/2014 at 11:37

Some of the dogs second year players will never be this cheap. Macrae, Hunter and Talia all look like playing a lot more this year. What about Koby Stevens, must be ready for a break out year.

    The Drama Llama · 20/02/2014 at 11:45

    Koby still too much of a risk for mine, Looked a shining light in a few games last year then an absolute spud the next. Will watch with interest and consider with corrective trades but still expect him to be inconsistent against the better midfields.

      Bob · 20/02/2014 at 12:03

      Was thinking as a mid priced upgrade. Will play Rd 1 and is one of BM's favourites. Otehr options are Daisy and Carazzo but need to see them actually on the park.

Pete · 20/02/2014 at 11:51

Didn't take a lot from last nights game, obvious comments above and in jock's review.

Anyone going to take a real POD and lock in Lin Jong?

Brett · 20/02/2014 at 13:06

Lin Jong is a rookie – will need a LTI before he gets a run

tomo · 20/02/2014 at 16:01

Why is there a pube on your paperwork?

    zimmerbd · 22/02/2014 at 14:59

    Don't think I want to know the answer to that question.

SCaddict · 20/02/2014 at 17:18

Liked what I saw from the Hickmonster last night. Only had to battle with Big Will for a half of course, so that needs to be factored in.

Very much within my ruck calculations at this stage but will have to await NAB 2 and 3 before any decision there.

I see Ralphy from the Herald Sun is planning to run with an ultra ballsy Hickey/Sandi ruck tandem. If it comes off it will definitely help him get a leg up in their office league against Clarky, Sammy, Robbo and the boys.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/jon-ralph-r

    Grufflez · 21/02/2014 at 00:01

    That is one of the worst teams i have ever seen.
    I am not doing this to be rude but that team of Raphy's is absolute garbage,auto team pick would do a better job…better luck next year if he starts with that.

    Jays team is average.

      zimmerbd · 22/02/2014 at 15:00

      Ralphy is absolute garbage.

David · 21/02/2014 at 01:57

Why not Dulhouse Jock?

vinnymac · 21/02/2014 at 02:21

Dahlhaus, pavlich or zorko? These mid-priced FWDs are giving me migraines, and at this stage I'm not convinced that any of the premiums are worth their weight in $. Dangerfield aside, which FWD premiums would be the safest to select?

    Grufflez · 21/02/2014 at 03:17

    N.Riewoldt is expensive and may drop his 105 average a little, but he should be good for 100 ish again if you have a cash.
    Saints only won 5 games last year so another bad year shouldn't worry riewoldt to much.
    Of those 3 options you mentioned mate i like Pav.

    PJ8 · 21/02/2014 at 08:57

    I like Roughead Vinny, rolls around the ground doing what he wants. Goes forward kicks goals, goes in the midfield and racks up touches and hitouts.

    Maybe T. Mitchell after last nights performance. See how he goes in NAB2.

THE SALTSHAKERS · 21/02/2014 at 19:59

Fyfe could avg 115+ if he uses ball better, wins plenty of contested footy, freakish ability but has tendency to kick forward without spotting up a target appears to be the trade off, causing plenty of clangers. It cost him going large many times, some of his low 100s he still scored well due to high % of contested football. If he can improve this area in 2014 he should bang out big scores more consistently.

Jack Stevens went up a gear and now knows can take on the best in comp. Think Ryan Griffin-esque explosiveness from clearances when taking on opposition. Shown ability to accumulate the football consistently, hard worker all over ground, and backs his leg speed. Runs all day, uncanny ability to find space like Boomer but further advanced at same age. Will attract more attention, bigger workload in 2014. Only thing hurting him is Saints will struggle in the guts, not enough support.

Kieren Jack – part of great midfield. Pts shared too much.

Libba will continue to improve with Griff, Murphy out meaning his share of ball should increase.

Toss up between him and Fyfe

    Dee · 22/02/2014 at 14:11

    Griffen will be good for round 1 won't he?

      Brett · 22/02/2014 at 15:20

      Griff should be ok – expecting him in next nab

      Murphy doesnt impact Libba's possessions – actually its Big Will who has a big impact on Libba's numbers, If Big Wills on song Libba is getting plenty of it.

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What's with the pubic hair on the scan Jock?

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