Analysis of the West Coast Eagles v Fremantle game:

Good day Community,

Summary of significant points out of the West Coast v Fremantle clash:

  • Don’t read anything into Freo performance. Lost by 90+ to Carlton this time, last year. Ross got it covered.
  • Consider Freo’s (lack of) effort when analysing West Coast.
  • Dom Sheed now ahead of Jack Martin? Will save you $55k in process. Sheed good build for first year, worry about potential green vest though
  • Xav Ellis halfway to being locked at that price. Adam Simpson worked with him at Hawks. Brought him over, must’ve seen something in him he likes.
  • Shuey, Fyfe, Barlow no issues there, solid performance.
  • Lachie Neale & Jack Darling potential PODs? At least worth discussing.

Look forward to your thoughts in the comments below.

Mr. Crimmins.

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39 Comments

Kevan · 19/02/2014 at 11:17

Terrific precis Mr Crimmins. Researched Shuey when Kerr didn't play, game time, type of possessions etc. Had him locked as POD since the show opened. Xavier Ellis will get game time, what you need in a rookie. Fyfe will join the elite this year, plenty of Brownlow votes as well. A fit Sandi is a great, cheap, ruck, must have really, just means R3 must be playing and scoring reasonable points when/if Sandi kicks his toe.

Dan · 19/02/2014 at 11:27

East coast eagles mr crimmins! Maybe a merge with gws on the cards?

throttlefinger · 19/02/2014 at 11:30

Well done, Mr. C! Pondering Darling. Like the price yet waiting to see if Crameri may be a better value. Can see both battling it out of the rest of NAB for the F4 spot.

    jimbotraralgon · 19/02/2014 at 12:09

    Hey throttle.

    I had pencilled Darling in at F4 before this game and I'll think the pencil mark just got a bit thicker….

    although not quite in permanent maker yet….need to see another game but more midfield time will possibly lift his average by 15 ppg just by itself.

      throttlefinger · 19/02/2014 at 12:25

      Agree on both fronts, Jimbo.

        The Drama Llama · 19/02/2014 at 15:44

        I wouldn't be banking on him spending too much time through the midfield. I'm aware of the fact he's trained through the midfield but I'd be willing to gamble there will be many if not most games this year where he plays 100% of his time forward. Eagles midfield options are currently vast. That said I had him pencilled in at the start of the year purely as a forward. Kid is a beast and the Eagles great early draw will be favourable for their forwards.

scooter · 19/02/2014 at 11:38

Think Shuey will cop a tag without Kerr may slow him down masten or wellingham for me

Autofelatio · 19/02/2014 at 11:42

Very nice Crimmo!, really thinking there is some fantastic value in both Sheed and Ellis, Darling is an interesting prospect aswell and one that I haven't really considered myself up until now. Fyfe looks very nice and will only get better, just worried about the possible resting by Ross Lyon at the end of the year which can hurt deeply for the many of us who will probably be in a bit of strife injury wise then. Pavlich is very very tempting and would like to see another game from him to decide whether or not I may entertain a spot for him. Cheers again Crimmo!

PS. Shuey looking very juicy aswell

jimbotraralgon · 19/02/2014 at 12:12

for me….

no to shuey, big yes to the x man, very likely on darling and maybe maybe on sheeds.

Sandi is locked in….to hell with the consequences…….just give me 5 to 6 games and I can then get a premium.

Morabito is no until he plays 2 games, ideally the week after his bye so he can be downgrade target.

I really need to see nicnat play….R1 is between nic, ryder and Lobbe at this stage for me.

    throttlefinger · 19/02/2014 at 12:30

    X-man and Sheed would like to see another game, but leaning on X man right now. Shuey I've been considering, yet don't have the confidence to slot him in Rd1. Hurn is in. Didn't play whole game and still broke 80. He's playing in the mid so should up his average from the git go.

    Sandi has moved to Beams "lock and throw away the key" status. To your point Jimbo, just need 5-6 quality starts then hello big Will.

    NicNat not being ready until R1 is not a good sign. Even last season took him 2-3 games to warm up. McEvoy is my #1 ruck. For now.

      benisbill · 19/02/2014 at 14:08

      Worth nothing with Hurn is that Freo didn't put the tag on him like they usually do – his SC average against Freo is only 77. So wouldn't necessarily read his 80 from a partial match as a sign of things to come. Playing in the midfield may bring him into more regular contact with taggers also.

      Just some food for thought!

        derek · 19/02/2014 at 16:52

        i'm only considering Hurn because of WCE good opening games.
        Still have Bartel, Mitchell, hanley and suckling ahead of him.

        throttlefinger · 19/02/2014 at 18:20

        Good points, Benisball. Like what I saw, though. Sure he wasn't going at full speed, but I hear your points. Still at his price, like his experience and Simpson's Hawk's style should help his game. Not a lock but have him in pencil as my D3 at the moment.

yurkins · 19/02/2014 at 12:12

reckon this game like the Bris Hawks game really was a waste of time. This format of 18days etc has that major draw back. Sides don't care if they win. _Supercoach wise it means we get no REAL info from it. Ellis looked fine but he got plenty in the first quarter so not convinced on him or Sheed. Shuey moved well as did LeCras. Im not a Darling fan even though pushing up field, I don't think he has it in him to be a good midfielder though he is still young.
Mind you the only thing worse than the effort of the Dockers was the pathetic calling of the game by the Fox Footy guys. Wow talk about slack. IN 2nd quarter we got interview galore, but 1 minute total of calling goals, tackles, marks and ball ups. Beside cox they called 2 names. Pfft I wished I had SEN on a little radio as I watched.

Daniel · 19/02/2014 at 13:47

Does anyone know if Hurn rotated through the midfield that game, and if it is likely for him to spend more time up the ground in 2014 (didn't get a chance to watch the game, could only follow the radio broadcast and thus hard to gauge)? Though still a solid choice if he plays the same position he did in 2013, I think he could really elevate his scoring to a new level and become lockish if he were to play through the midfield and on the wings. If not, does anyone have any mid-priced type defenders (around the 400-450k mark) who they think could emerge as genuine premo's by season's end? Any sources and/or feedback would be greatly appreciated.

Love your work boys, quality as always.

    Kev · 19/02/2014 at 14:01

    Hurn did go through the middle, but the freo boys didn't pick him up. 90 point flogging = can't take too much away from this game. That said, I do like him. Lots of talk about him getting mid time this year. Likewise, David swallow (429k) is a good bet to get more midfield time as well

      cezza · 19/02/2014 at 14:19

      To much talk of swallow he’s shown nothing, I don’t understand the hype

        Kev · 19/02/2014 at 15:48

        capable of producing consistent 85+ if he stays in the middle. 23 touches with 6 tackles is worth a spot on the watch list, especially with the inconsistent nature of defence

    jamkella · 19/02/2014 at 22:26

    the talk a few weeks ago was that he would spend more time in the middle and that was proven yesterday so for the extra touches he will be a consideration

    Rocksta · 20/02/2014 at 00:50

    I must have watched a different game………………….Hurn didn't look like a midfielder to me.
    Good player, but I reckon he will be playing a similar role to always and thus no significant price rise.

Daniel · 19/02/2014 at 14:29

Cheers boys. Though it is only a NAB Cup game, Hurn's kick to handball ratio, coupled with potential midfield time and a soft draw, looks mighty appealing. As for Swallow, if he gets midfield time I think he'll be able to crank out some decent scores and become a solid pick for a D3/4, and should avoid the tag with the likes of Ablett, Prestia and Bennell in there too.
Bring on season 2014.

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    derek · 19/02/2014 at 17:10

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      Billy · 19/02/2014 at 18:02

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        derek · 19/02/2014 at 19:10

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George · 19/02/2014 at 16:11

Can someone please post the full sc scores for this match? It would be GREATLY appreciated!

Thanks, George

    SCaddict · 19/02/2014 at 16:50

    Sure thing George

    Luke Shuey 125
    Matt Priddis 120
    Nathan Fyfe 113
    Mark Hutchings 107
    Chris Masten 106
    Jamie Cripps 104
    Sharrod Wellingham 96
    Lachie Neale 93
    Aaron Sandilands 91
    Xavier Ellis 89
    Michael Barlow 87
    Stephen Hill 83
    Eric MacKenzie 83
    Shannon Hurn 82
    Mark LeCras 82
    Matt Rosa 80
    Jack Darling 80
    Dean Cox 79
    Elliot Yeo 79
    Callum Sinclair 71
    Tendai Mzungu 69
    Tom Sheridan 67
    Scott Selwood 67
    Josh Kennedy 66
    Scott Lycett 65
    Murray Newman 63
    Sam Menegola 58
    Michael Walters 58
    Matthew De Boer 57
    David Mundy 56
    Paul Duffield 56
    Matthew Pavlich 53
    Darren Glass 49
    Josh Hill 49
    Michael Johnson 48
    Mitchell Brown 46
    Brad Sheppard 45
    Danyle Pearce 43
    Hayden Crozier 42
    Jack Hannath 41
    Dom Sheed 41
    Tanner Smith 40
    Lee Spurr 37
    Patrick McGinnity 34
    Scott Gumbleton 32
    Zac Dawson 32
    Max Duffy 32
    Jamie Bennell 32
    Hayden Ballantyne 26
    Colin Sylvia 18
    Luke McPharlin 15
    Matthew Taberner 11

SCKook · 19/02/2014 at 16:34

Suckling and Lobbe or D Swallow and Sandi??

Not much to read into this game – same as crows/port and hawks/lions. You'd reckon the AFL coaches could be a bit more considerate of supercoaches and play full strength sides in pre season…

    derek · 19/02/2014 at 17:09

    can i choose Suckling and Sandi?

      SCKook · 19/02/2014 at 17:56

      Suckling coming off an ACL, Sandi injury prone… risky.

        derek · 19/02/2014 at 19:08

        they are soooo cheap.

        But as my father always say….you get what you pay for!

        At this stage i will be starting Round 1 with them, but that is why we have 30 trades.

    Jono · 19/02/2014 at 19:30

    Swallow will be a good POD. If he doesn’t fire up for the first 2 rounds and suckling does. Easy downgrade before BE kicks in, you’ll save yourself $90k+ and gain yourself some cash to upgrade another player elsewhere.

    You shouldn’t be trading anyone after the 1st round. personally I think its a waste to trade that early. So pick your team and plan ahead. Keep in mind to keep an eye on the Round 8 bye as these players will sitting it out.
    Pendle-Swan-Beams-Cloke-Grundy
    Ablett-Martin-Dixon-Swallow-McKenzie
    Cotchin-Dustin-B Ellis-Delidio-Maric
    J Selwood-S Johnson-Enright -Bartel-Hmac-Hawkins
    Zeibell-Deal Santo-Goldstein-Cunnington
    Dangerfield-Sloan-Taylor-Douglas-Crouch
    If you get caught with majority of those players by Round 8 you’ll be stuff.

    Hope guys got the idea
    Round 8 Bye
    Collingwood
    Gold Coast
    Geelong
    North
    Adelaide
    Richmond

derek · 19/02/2014 at 17:09

would you think Pendlebury/Murphy or StevieJ/Watson a better combination. If you had to choose?

    decs · 19/02/2014 at 17:26

    pendlebury murphy more consistent and save some$$

    Rocksta · 20/02/2014 at 00:53

    I don't rate Murphy.
    He cannot play with a tag and has proven to be soft. I rather have Ziebell at a similar price as at least I know he will be hard at it

SCKook · 19/02/2014 at 18:04

Murphy is questionable with a tag – now that he's before Judd in line for a tag.

cam · 19/02/2014 at 19:37

Hey what do you guys think of my team, any advice will be appreciated
Mitchell hibberd swallow suckling kolodjashnij mcdonald res: cutler Langdon
Gaj pendles cotchin murphy beams Thomas sheed ellis res: dunstain crouch
Sandilands ???? res:thorlow Nankervis
Dangerfield franklin zorko pavlich billings kennedy-harris res:lennon garlett
I have 569k in the bank what do you think I should do?

SCannonymous · 20/02/2014 at 05:55

Cam – big plus for LISTING YOUR TEAM HORIZONTALLY!
Midfield very solid!!
I reckon your backs lack a bit of depth with respect to job security. I would possibly look to find one or two more certain starters out of KK, Cutler and Langdon in the backs and I'm not sure how early Billings will get games.
Maybe Lobbe or Hickey in the rucks if you're confident in Sandi.
Good Luck SCAnn.

    cam · 20/02/2014 at 17:07

    thanks heaps i put hickey in after a great performance last night.

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