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@emhoy · 11/01/2014 at 11:26

Defenders
Andrew Walker [CAR]
$572,500
Jarrad McVeigh [SYD] [MID]
$572,500
Pearce Hanley [BRL] [MID]
$516,200
David Swallow [GCS] [MID]
$429,400
Kade Kolodjashnij [GCS]
$197,300
Luke McDonald [NTH] [MID]
$182,300
Joel Tippett [NTH]
$123,900
Matthew Fuller [WBD]
$117,300

Midfielders
Gary Ablett [GCS]
$695,000
Jobe Watson [ESS]
$601,300
Trent Cotchin [RIC]
$572,000
Marc Murphy [CAR]
$498,300
Dayne Beams [COL]
$497,200
Dale Thomas [CAR]
$341,800
Jack Martin [GCS]
$222,300
Luke Dunstan [STK]
$132,300
Anthony Morabito [FRE]
$123,900
Dayle Garlett [HAW] [FWD]
$117,300

Rucks
Matthew Lobbe [PTA]
$464,400
Brodie Grundy [COL]
$363,300
Toby Nankervis [SYD]
$117,300
Max King [MEL]
$102,400

Forwards
Patrick Dangerfield [ADE] [MID]
$609,000
Dustin Martin [RIC] [MID]
$549,200
Jarryd Roughead [HAW]
$531,300
Jesse Hogan [MEL]
$217,300
Gary Rohan [SYD]
$176,200
Riley Knight [ADE] [MID]
$117,300
Lewis Taylor [BRL] [MID]
$117,300
Mitch Honeychurch [WBD] [MID]
$117,300

I have $4,900 left, should I start Danger I did last year and he dropped lots of cash early. Feedback would be appreciated.

    throttlefinger · 11/01/2014 at 12:28

    Nice structure, emhoy. Very nice.

    FWD: Walker may not be worth the price. With a bolstered Blues team, can't see him doing the same numbers. Mitchell is tried and true, can handle the tag, mixes it up and rarely goes under a ton. Rest of your Defs are solid and can be adjusted given pre-season play and R1 selection

    MID: Really like this mid lineup. Hard to see any flaws. Murphy and Cotchin are sitting at a price WELL under their value. Murphy is back from injury and has better players around him. Cotchin will answer the bell to return his game to 2012 form.

    RUC: Saving money going mid pricers, but a good gamble with these two. They will carry the load and both have dynamic mids who will make their jobs easier. Could see big scores early. If one of them goes down or starts to burn, you won't have any coverage. That's the only concern there.

    FWD: Like Roughy choice. Thinking bigger year without Buddy hogging up the forward line? Hogan hurt himself but it isn't serious. Keep an eye on his pre-season form. Same goes with Rohan.Your F6 is the biggest concern of your team. You need to hope someone of that same value gets the nod R1. That's a big hope. Just have a backup plan if Lennon is the cheapest starter. ($162K)

      @emhoy · 11/01/2014 at 13:12

      Thanks Thorttle, yeah ruck are risky I could go Nit Nat for Lobbe and change Cotchin to Shuey

        Dools · 11/01/2014 at 13:26

        G'day emhoy
        Grundy and Lobbe are solid mate but if either one of these guys goes down you are relying on Nankervis to cover the hole
        By getting Nicnat you have not fixed the problem. But if he is fit get on him
        Dare I say GAJ gone and insert Pendles or Selwood in order to keep Cotchin

          @emhoy · 11/01/2014 at 13:35

          Yeah good point about the rucks, I will stick with gazza otherwise I will have captain issues each week. I might reduce my back line spend and see if I can get a better balanced team.

    marcus emmett · 30/01/2014 at 18:26

    too many premiums is your backline. put more money into your midfield or forward line

    Nathan · 30/01/2014 at 23:19

    my team please rate BACKS- Bartel Mitchell Hanley Swallow Kolodjashnij ( k) McDonald Laidler Fuller
    MIDS- Ablett Dangerfield Fyfe Beams Murphy Morabito O'Rourke Taylor Martin (J) Ellis
    RUCKS- Grundy Sandilands Longer Nankervis
    FWDS- Martin (D) Franklin Garlett Zorko Honeychurch markworth Kenndey-harris Hogan

    stelz · 05/02/2014 at 22:30

    My Team- Any thoughts, tips or advice?

    (ALL INTERCHANGES ARE CHEAPEST PLAYERS AND WILL PLAY IN CONSISTANT PLAYING INTERCHANGE OPTIONS AFTER ROUND 2 WHEN THE UNLIMITED TRADING PERIOD CONCLUDES)

    BACKS:
    – Jarrad McVeigh $529,900
    – Sam Mitchell $517,700
    – Luke Hodge $491,900
    – Matt Suckling $314,400
    – Tom Cutler $176,000
    – Jeremy Laidler $135,500
    – INTERCHANGE: Joel Tippet $115,200 and Tom Vandeleur $115,200

    MIDS:

    – Gary Ablett $621,200
    – Scott Pendlebury $611,200
    – Nat Fyfe $530,900
    – Trent Cotchin $511,300
    – Dayne Beams $498,800
    – Marc Murphy $463,500
    – Dale Thomas $346,400
    – Clinton Young $218,300
    – INTERCHANGE: Alex Woodward $115,200 and Daniel Robinson $115,200

    RUCKS:

    -Shane Mumford $423,000
    – Aaron Sandilands $244,500
    – INTERCHANGE: Daniel Currie $115,200 and Fraser Thurlow $115,200

    FORWARDS:

    – Patty Dangerfield $534,700
    – Chad Wingard $474,000
    – Jarryd Roughead $470,100
    – Buddy Franklin $426,500
    – Dayne Zorko $400,100
    – Mitch Honeychurch $135,500
    INTERCHANGE: Daniel Markworth $115,500 and Shane Kersten $115,500

    Your help would be awesome, any feedback or tips?

Boydo · 11/01/2014 at 11:29

McVeigh,Mitchell,Swallow,Suckling,Buntine,Kk,(McDonald,Fuller)

Pendles,Selwood J,Beams D,Shuey,Thomas D,Martin J,Tyson, Beams/Aish

(Polec,Moriabito)

Goldy,Lobbe. (Apen,Lobb/Nan)

Danger, Martin,Franklin/Parker, Clarke, Hogan,Gartlett

(Taylor,Honey/Kersten)

Thoughts ? Help?

    throttlefinger · 11/01/2014 at 12:13

    Lots of bold moves and strong picks, Boydo. Of the big DEFs, most seemed picking Bartel so McV could be an inspired choice. Buntine! Man, that wild pick for someone with 3 games (but hit a ton in one of them). Could be a great call. Got me thinking about that. Strong Def reserves. Both will get playing time, given their teams.

    Shuey could be another sleeper pick, especially with WCE having an favorable SC schedule. X. Ellis is another you may want to consider for M7-8.

    Strong rucks. Can't see Goldie averaging less than 105. Lobbe will carryover his end of season form and tear it up.

    Fwds are good. May move Gartlett into reserves. Probably won't get on early with the defending champs. Suggest Lennon, who should get R1 playing time. Another to consider is Nahas. Strong goal sneak who may make his way into Roos starting lineup.

      Boydo · 11/01/2014 at 13:06

      Thanks Throttle Is Lennon really likely to play forward and help ruck with Maric? If so he could be a huge cash cow!! A lot of teams seem to have Cutler lion rookie defender. Is there any word of him getting playing time, I can’t find it anywhere??

        throttlefinger · 11/01/2014 at 13:32

        Hampson will share ruck with Maric. Lennon is a rook with a marksman's aim that my dear Tiges desperately need in their front line. From all that I've read, he's been looking good in training and will probably get some R1 time. Nothing is for sure. But likely. And at that price, even if he doesn't, you could find someone else at that price.

        Cutler I have on my rooks to watch. Here's what I've read about him…all place him as a strong smokey. http://goo.gl/Ihu5v1 http://goo.gl/ehh9iI

          Boydo · 11/01/2014 at 21:04

          Thanks mate, legend!

          jimbotraralgon · 12/01/2014 at 12:16

          Hey throttle.

          You have been pretty hot and heavy on lennon. Interested in why you see him as a possible walk up start? I havent heard much about him.

@McClungeMagnet · 11/01/2014 at 11:32

Mitchell, Sam (MID) $562,000
Hanley, Pearce (MID) $516,200
Henderson, Ricky $460,000
Swallow, David (MID) $429,400
Suckling, Matt $312,200
McDonald, Luke (MID) $182,300
Laidler, Jeremy $161,800
Fuller, Matthew $117,300
MIDFIELDERS
Selwood, Joel $638,700
Rockliff, Tom $591,500
Fyfe, Nathan $574,300
Beams, Dayne $497,200
Thomas, Dale $341,800
Martin, Jack $222,300
Aish, James $187,300
Tyson, Dom $216,800
Michie, Viv $172,600
Ellis, Xavier $159,100
RUCKS
Naitanui, Nic $518,800
Sandilands, Aaron $310,700
Currie, Daniel $123,900
Nankervis, Toby $117,300
FORWARDS
Dangerfield, Patrick (MID) $609,000
Martin, Dustin (MID) $549,200
Franklin, Lance $487,700
Caddy, Josh (MID) $325,300
Rohan, Gary $176,200
Billings, Jack (MID) $207,300
Taylor, Lewis $117,300
Garlett, Dayle (MID) $117,300

If Either Thomas is unfit I would swap CAddy for another rookie and upgrade to a premo
if sandilands unfit chuck in Mcintosh
Not sure whether I should go with Fyfe or Cotchin

    @McClungeMagnet · 11/01/2014 at 11:37

    Bye outs go 10,8,13
    but have 8 rookies to upgrade who have the round 10 bye which means ill probebly plan to trade maybe all three for upgrades that round

      throttlefinger · 11/01/2014 at 12:41

      Daaaaaaaamn. This is a bull strong pre-season lineup, MClunge.

      To your fixes, I think the backup plan is sound with Caddy for unfit Daisy and McIntosh for Sandi (you could also use Hickey or Longer…or get Grundy if you can). May want to consider Apeness for your reserve. Probably get time with Clarke and Sandi nursing their current/inevitably injuries.

      Since you have a lot of round 10 byes, maybe use Cotchin. Feel both are going to have massive years. Docs have a harder schedule. I'm going with Fyfe but I have too many 8 round byes.

      Like Billings yet be prepared for him not making first round due if his pre-season injury is lasting. But at that price, you could probably replace fairly easy. (Bock, Lennon, Nahas)

    kim · 03/02/2014 at 22:05

    no ablett or pendlebury? your midfield is where the majority of the points are scored, yes they are both expensive because they are bloody consistent and score lots of points not too mention the captaincy. . There is no point in having a backline or forward line that is a little stronger but a weaker midfield as its going to cost you a lot to upgrade to premiums later on not too mention all those lost points. Personally I would have more premo's and super premo's in your midfield.

    Jamie · 13/02/2014 at 17:55

    hey pretty good team there, similar to mine! Midfield very good, although not sure if selwood, will be primed for round 1, i'll look to upgrade him during the year (At this stage im going ablett to start). Rockliff could be near top of the s/c tree at end of year if he plays perm midfield. Fyfe is the man, he is my fav for brownlow. Maybe 4th ruckman pick a r/f for more versatility. not sure about billings for his price. Dunstan in mid for 132 an option, maybe for Tyson. I have aish/ ellis, but closely watching beams/ sheed. finally I'm not sure about nic nat fitness, consider lobbe or mumford. That said, I think you'll go very well this year, good luck!

Boydo · 11/01/2014 at 11:56

Who’s idea was it to have Collingwood GoldCoast Geelong Adelaide and Richmond as Round 8 byes. They should have checked with us fantasy players first.
Mid Ablett, Pendles,Swan,Beams,Selwood,Cotchin,J Martin,
Fwd: Dangerfield, Martin, Caddy,
Causing headaches and/or changing midfield players as having to choose non super elite mids.

bloke · 11/01/2014 at 11:57

DEF: McVeigh, Mitchell, Enright, Suckling, K Kolojasnij, Mcdonald (Fuller, Langdon)
MID: Pendles, Jelwood, Watson, Beams, Daisy, J Martin, Tyson, C Beams (Morabito, O'Rourke)
RUC: Lobbe, Sandi (Currie, Nankervis)
FWD: Danger, Dusty, Parker, Zorko, Lamb, Bock (Taylor, Garlett)

    throttlefinger · 11/01/2014 at 12:53

    Bitchin side Bloke!

    Like Enright. I've been considering him or Taylor as D3. Could be one of those inspired picks that separates you from the pack. And he's a proven scorer. Mids, can't find anything to comment on. Even if Tyson and C. Beams preseason form doesn't impress, both prices you'll be able to find a good replacement. (Ellis, Aish, etc)

    Rucks are probably your weak spot. Putting Lobbe as R1 is a bold move. As your R2 is probably more sensible. But if you want to take a risk, think Grundy is going to pay off more than Sandi. Just can't see him playing more than 10-13 games. For that to pay off, he's gotta go ton-wild those games. Don't know at his age if that's gonna happen. Consider Apeness in reserve for this reason.

    Zoooooooooorko! (said in James T Kirk voice from "Wrath of Khan"). Had him last year and his name is still branded across my turdcutter. Motlop may be the less risky and bolder choice. Lamb and Bock are wait and see but good placeholders. Will be able to replace if they don't work out.

      bloke · 11/01/2014 at 13:26

      Yeah my rucks aren't really settled. Lobbe could be any RUC around 500k. R2 will be Sandi, McIntosh or Grundy. I didn't get burned by Zorko last year (didn't have him) and read that he could average close to 100. Cheapies could all change easily

      Dools · 11/01/2014 at 13:41

      Hahahahahah I have a name for my SC Pain ZooooRKo…

jazzy · 11/01/2014 at 12:07

DEF: Mitchell, Hibberd, Hanley, Kolodjashnij, Scharenberg, Mcdonald (cuttler, fuller)
MID: Pendles, Rockliff, Prestia, M Murphy, Beams, Shuey, D Thomas, Martin (Orouke, Crouch)
RUC: Minson, Sandy (Lobb, Nankervis)
FWD: Danger, Martin, Dixon, Hogan, Broomhead, L Taylor ( Garlett, Honeychurch)
thoughts?

    throttlefinger · 11/01/2014 at 13:19

    Lot of risks here, Jazzy. Some good and some maybe too risky.

    Like the Hibberd call. Haven't seen him in a lot of lineups. Given the cloud over the Bombers, could come out like gangbusters. Schranberg is nursing a bum foot. Plus getting into the Pies lineup R1 is a lot to ask even if fit. Laidler may be an option.

    Mids: Prestia great call. He and Bennell could have breakout years. Beams AND Murphy really make your M1-5 potent! Shuey is also nice pick due to WCE favorable opening. Orouke and Crouch probably won't see the field this year but you can fill with at least one that looks good in preseason and might make the early round lineups.

    Minson and Sandi. Be prepared for Sandi not going past 10-13 games. You need a swing to bring Dixon up if need be OR get Apeness who probably get some PT with Clarke and Sandi most likely not being a full strength for part/most of the season.

    Forwards are good. Think your F4 should be stronger. Mitchell, Parker. Even Chappy. Hogan is a solid F5 not F4 pick, IMO. You may have to downgrade one of your mids to make that happen though. Broomhead and Taylor, not sure if they'll make the cut the first round. And at those prices you may be left stranded. Would try to restructure your Mids so you can beef up and have more flexibility in your Forward line.

      Jazzy · 11/01/2014 at 17:07

      Cheers on the advice mate 🙂 rookies will change as rd 1 gets closer

Mark · 11/01/2014 at 12:53

DEF: Bartel,Lumumba, Watts, Suckling, K.Kolodjashnij, McDonald, Langdon, Fuller
MID: Pendlebury, Swan, Murphy, D.Beams, Adams, Bell, Martin, Aish, C.Beams, P.Cripps
RUC: B.Grundy, Hickey, Apeness, Currie
FWD: Dangerfield, Wingard, Franklin, Chapman, Zorko, Freeman, L.Taylor, D.Garlett

    theazzyg · 11/01/2014 at 13:46

    Nice team there mark but I feel like having all 3 collingwood midfielders would be a mistake, Especially when you could get other players from other teams equally as good as if not better then swan. That's only my opinion though. How much cash did you have leftover?

theazzyg · 11/01/2014 at 13:44

Hodge, Luke (MID) $521,600
Hanley, Pearce (MID) $516,200
Swallow, David (MID) $429,400
Kolodjashnij, Kade $197,300
Shaw, Rhyce $299,400
Cutler, Tom $117,300
Docherty, Sam $285,000
Fuller, Matthew $117,300
MIDFIELDERS
Ablett, Gary $695,000
Pendlebury, Scott $683,100
Fyfe, Nathan $574,300
Thomas, Dale $341,800
Beams, Dayne $497,200
Murphy, Marc $498,300
Dunstan, Luke $132,300
Polec, Jared $172,600
Honeychurch, Mitch (FWD) $117,300
McDonald, Luke (DEF) $182,300
RUCKS
Leuenberger, Matthew $523,500
Goldstein, Todd $612,400
Nankervis, Toby $117,300
Leslie, Jack $122,300
FORWARDS
Dangerfield, Patrick (MID) $609,000
Martin, Dustin (MID) $549,200
Garlett, Dayle (MID) $117,300
Taylor, Lewis (MID) $117,300
Caddy, Josh (MID) $325,300
Hunter, Lachlan $284,700
Fantasia, Orazio $117,300
Kersten, Shane $123,900

This is my very rough draft, a lot of rookies at the moment, few smokies that may or may not be in there by Round 1 pending NAB form and teamsheets.

    Peptides FC · 11/01/2014 at 15:01

    Nice team but a bit too top heavy in the midfield.
    Yeah due to increase in rookies pricing you may want to get rid of an Ablett and use some of the cash to upgrade some rookies. Pendles, Fyfe, beams, danger more than enough to put the c on. Also maybe look to ditch maybe a leunburger for somebody who presents more value such as Lobbe, sandilands, Mcintosh.
    I'd also think about upgrading hunter with that spare cash to maybe a franklin or Rioli

Dools · 11/01/2014 at 13:46

Hi Mark
R U a Pie fan?
I think you have sacrificed across too many lines with maybe players for Very strong Mid and Fwd line

SCMania · 11/01/2014 at 14:04

I'm really happy with my side at the moment but I'm not settled with my rucks, everybody says Goldstein is too pricey but if I have the money would he be a better option than Mummy? Thanks!

    Dools · 11/01/2014 at 15:21

    Hi SCMania,
    Goldy is worth every cent mate he is a set and forget if you have him and your happy with your team then Lock him in.
    I think Mummy has to regain 2012 form in order to get a look at and will he share the Ruc role ?

Loz · 11/01/2014 at 14:13

DEF: Mitchell, Adcock, Swallow, Suckling, Kolodjashnij, Cutler (Fuller, Langdon)
MID: Ablett, Pendles, Watson, Murphy, Beams ,J Martin, Aish, McDonald (Dunstan, Taylor)
RUCK: Lobbe, Sandi (Brown, Nankervis)
FWD: Danger, Dusty, Motlop, Crameri, Lamb, Hogan (Broomhead, Kersten)

$129K left.

Will watch Sandi pre-season – he may become Grundy.

Benno · 11/01/2014 at 14:14

Any help/feedback/tips/suggestions/advice/rates etc would be great. Will return the favour and take a look at you side. Cheers

Mitchell, Hanley, Swallow, Suckling, Kolodjashnij, McDonald (Kolodjashnij, Fuller)

Pendlebury, Fyfe, Murphy, Beams, Shuey, Thomas, Martin, Michie (Dunstan, Gartlett)

Lobbe, Sandilands (Brown, Nankervis)

Dangerfield, Martin, Dixon, Hawkins, Caddy, Clark (Kersten, Taylor)

$6,500

    Max · 11/01/2014 at 17:39

    Hey Benno!
    Good looking team you have here! There are a lot of good rookie options in the midfield so maybe move out Murphy, Shuey or Thomas.. Midfield should be your main area of cash flow! Lobbe is an interesting pick maybe not consistant enough for R1 yet? Have a look into others. Stacked forward line, I like it but beware that there are more rookie options up forward than up back. But more research on your rookie options and you're there!

    curtmer · 07/02/2014 at 21:48

    Like Hawkins as a p o.d in the fwd line. underpriced and will lead cats fwd line. Looking fitter and not as troubled by the back compared to 2013. Good to see Dixon as cover for rucks too.

Ben · 11/01/2014 at 14:19

1. Bartel, J
MID
$572,500
SYD X
2. McVeigh, J
MID
$522,600
GWS X
3. Shaw , H
$516,200
BRL X
4. Hanley, P
MID
$312,200
HAW X
5. Suckling, M
$192,300
COL X
6. Scharenberg, M
$117,300
BRL X
23. Cutler, T
$117,300
WBD X
24. Fuller, M
$695,000
GCS X
7. Ablett, G
$683,100
COL X
8. Pendlebury, S
$497,200
COL X
9. Beams, D
$464,400
ESS X
10. Chapman, P
FWD
$341,800
CAR X
11. Thomas, D
$222,300
GCS X
12. Martin, J
$216,800
MEL X
13. Tyson, D
$179,100
MEL X
14. Blease, S
FWD
$172,600
MEL X
25. Michie, V
$123,900
FRE X
26. Morabito, A
$518,800
WCE X
15. Naitanui, N
$310,700
FRE X
16. Sandilands, A
$117,300
NTH X
27. Brow n, B
FWD
$117,300
SYD X
28. Nankerv is, T
$609,000
ADE X
17. Dangerfield, P
MID
$487,700
SYD X
18. Franklin, L
$249,200
MEL X
19. Clark, M
$217,300
GWS X
20. Boyd, T
$217,300
MEL X
21. Hogan, J
$141,300
GEE X
22. Menzel, D
$123,900
COL X
29. Broomhead, T
$117,300
WBD X
30. Honeychurch, M

253,800 in the bank

meanieoh · 11/01/2014 at 14:25

DEF: Bartel, Shaw, Birchall, Suckling, Kolodjashnij, McDonald (Langdon, Fuller)
MID: Liberatore, Mundy, Murphy, Beams, Bell, Martin, Aish, Beams (Michie, Dunstan)
RUCK: Lobbe, Grundy (Apeness, Currie)
FWD: Dangerfield, Wingard, Franklin, Chapman, Caddy (Close, Kennedy-Harris)

$14,000

I had a look at the posts above, and then mixed some players in that I've been watching and this is what I came up with.

This will no doubt change repeatedly, so feel free to pick it to pieces.

    Peptides FC · 11/01/2014 at 15:07

    Not bad for a quick mosh match but lots of things to improve.
    I wouldn't chuck shaw in, read the rock reynolds write up on him.
    Liba I'm not to sure how much he costs but would look for a pendles or selwood to give the captain option. Instead of Mundy I'd go Fyfe or Cotchin because they both present great scoring potential and likely improvement this year. I'd also swap chappy for a rookie priced player which would give you cash to make these changers

    kim · 03/02/2014 at 22:14

    strong backline and forward line, but again the midfield is where the bulk of your scoring needs to be and the hardest to upgrade, you need pendlebury and/or ablett at least joel selwood otherwise who is going to be your captain each week? sacrifise chapman in forward line for a rookie and upgrade bell to a super premo otherwise I think your midfield will struggle.

Jake · 11/01/2014 at 15:06

Which one out of Xavier Ellis, Dom Sheed, Anthony Morabito, Jared Polec or Claye Beams would everyone recommend?

    Dools · 11/01/2014 at 15:27

    Good Q Jake
    They all have upsides but i think Polec would be an excellent pick as an M8 as would a fit and firing Ellis
    But thats just what I reckon mate

    bloke · 11/01/2014 at 21:16

    Morabito and Claye Beams will be best 22 in there teams if they are fully fit. Sheed and Ellis may not play round 1 and Polec MAY get the sub vest. Mora is way cheaper than the rest so I'd go (and did go) him

      Dools · 12/01/2014 at 02:10

      Agree with you mate but this far out maybe they can get up in time. What do you reckon mate?

        bloke · 12/01/2014 at 10:36

        True. All speculative until Nab Challenge. All will play in the year at some point. O'Rourke is another who is cheap compared to other rookies. If Ellis doesn't play round 1 I think it will be difficult for him to break into the Eagles team. Sheed will play

    @noahcavanagh · 12/01/2014 at 17:11

    dom sheed

    Boydo · 15/01/2014 at 19:28

    I would pick Beams if all named round 1 2nd choice Polec

Woodman · 11/01/2014 at 15:16

Def: Thompson, Simpson, Hurn, Docherty, kolodjashnij. K, McDonanald.L (M.Fuller, T. Cutler)

Mid: Ablett, Pendlebury, Griffith, Beams, Murphy, J.Martin, D.Tyson, C.Beams (J. O'Rourke, L.Taylor)

Rck: Lobbe, Sandilands (F. Thurlow, T.Nankervis)

Fwd: Dangerfield, D.Martin, Franklin, Kennedy, Hogan, S.Kersten (D.Gartlett, J.Kennedy-Harris)

$3600 left over. Thoughts?

    rototist · 12/01/2014 at 16:22

    shit defense

      Woodman · 12/01/2014 at 19:22

      With Mitchel, Bartel, Mcveigh and Walker will all drop in value i reckon so my plan is to upgrade them during the bye.

        Dools · 13/01/2014 at 15:56

        I rate the defence mate!and sound reasoning in upgrade targets

          Woodman · 15/01/2014 at 01:06

          Thanks mate.

Rosco · 11/01/2014 at 15:25

Def: S.Mitchell P.Hanley M.Suckling K.Kolodjashnij J.Laidler M.Fuller (T.Clurey, T.Cutler)

Mid: S.Pendlebury, J.Watson T.Rockliff, M.Murphy D.Beams D.Thomas J.Martin C.Beams (L.McDonald, D.Garlett)

Ruc: M.Lobbe A.Sandilands (B.Longer D.Currie)

Fwd: P.Dangerfield , D.Martin , L.Franklin M.Clark A.Fasolo N.Bock (G.Rohan, L.Taylor)

    Rosco · 11/01/2014 at 15:37

    Got $196,000 left, bye structure pretty even, gone for returning players over rookies this year as they seem to offer more value. Thoughts would be appreciated

      bloke · 11/01/2014 at 21:21

      Backs could do with another mid to high pricer I reckon, and I'm not sold on Fasolo. Mid rookies would score more than forwards and backs so maybe sacrifice Murphy to get in someone like McVeigh into the back line and another rookie in the MIDs. Michie, Morabito, Polec and the like. Put McDonald on the field and one of those on the bench.

        Ross · 12/01/2014 at 13:15

        Thanks. New team $233,000 left
        Def: S.Mitchell P.Hanley R.Henderson, M.Suckling K.Kolodjashnij J.Laidler (M.Fuller T.Cutler)
        Mid: S.Pendlebury J.Watson T.Rockliff D.Beams D.Thomas J.Martin C.Beams J.O’Rourke(L.McDonald D.Garlett )
        Ruc: M.Lobbe A.Sandilands (M.Apeness D.Currie)
        Fwd: P.Dangerfield D.Martin C.Dixon L.Franklin N.Bock G.Rohan (M.Honeychurch, L.Taylor)

          bloke · 12/01/2014 at 15:19

          I like it. Can't believe you still have 200k left. Henderson could make a very good POD. Rookies are good from what I've read about them. If anything, look to spend half of that remaining cash, possibly up forward. Although that could be my inability to have that much cash laying around.

          Ross · 13/01/2014 at 18:38

          Not holding on to cash hurt last year especially when a premium goes down, gets a sub affected score, loses $50k and you can’t replace him with a player of similar quality.
          Thanks for your input.

Paul · 11/01/2014 at 16:31

Def – McVeigh.J, Hanley.P, Suckling.M, Docherty.S, Scharenberg.M, McDonald.L (Kolodjashnij, Fuller)

Mid – Griffen.R, Watson.J, Fyfe.N, Beams.D, Mitchell.T, Swallow.D, Thomas.D, Aish.J (Ellis.X, Morabito.A)

Ruc – Lobbe.M, McIntosh.H (Apeness.M, Nankervis.T)

Fwd – Dangerfield.P, Martin.D, Tippet.K, Kommer.N, Karnezis.P, Billings.J (Paine.J, Garlett.D)

Thoughts or advice? Am relatively new to SC.

    lostlarrikin · 11/01/2014 at 16:57

    Not bad 1st effort Paul.
    Def could use another prem, although many are loading up on KK, Fuller and McDonald rooks.
    The likes of Swallow and Mitchell would be better used in their alternate dpp slots.
    Will need to keep a watching brief on many of these guys i.e. Thomas, Ellis, Kommer, Karnezis as injury and form has restricted them in recent history.

    As for TipRat up fwd, not for me with Buddy vying for points.

      Paul · 11/01/2014 at 17:15

      Thanks lostlarrikin, gives me something to work on. Am up against some seasoned SC players this year & whilst not expecting to take them out, would like to be competitive. The only reson I went with the tiprat is that I've read that he may spend some time in the ruck. Will look at other options though, especially after seeing some NAB form. Cheers mate!

        lostlarrikin · 11/01/2014 at 20:19

        yeah fair call on tiprat, not much support for Pyke with Mummy gone

jimbotraralgon · 11/01/2014 at 17:11

hi guys.

new thread and time to update the side. feeling a little more steady with this side now.

d/ McVeigh, Mitchell, d swallow, suckling, KK, McDonald (Fuller, Langdon)
m/ gaz, pendles, d beams, smurph, daisy, martin, polec, c beams (aish, O'Rourke)
r/ nicnat, sandi (longer, P Mitchell) – p Mitchell is the captain loophole
f/ danger, dusty, buddy, l parker, Hogan, kersten,(L Taylor, Garlett)

only $3300 in the kitty. Hogan and Aish will give way if I need to make changes with non starters.

Really happy with the midfield although I realise that daisy and sandi underpin the whole structure. If they don't get up some wholesale rework might be in order including no GAJ to start.

Anyway, thoughts?

    lostlarrikin · 11/01/2014 at 21:02

    Hey Jimbo,
    Looks pretty sweet.
    You got any mail on Hogan and Kersten?
    Watching the DeeTV snippets with Roos saying that any game time for 1st yr players is a bonus. Not sure if Hogan fits that mould.

    I have made my views on Swallow clear (see below) but just as likely to prove me wrong and go bang!
    My only other concern is Nic Nat, i'm seeing lower risk and similar output from cheaper rucks.

    I really hope O'rourke gets some decent game time this yr

      jimbotraralgon · 12/01/2014 at 21:48

      Hey Mate.

      No real inside news other than whispers from this site and other sites.

      I really just cant see why Hogan wouldn't be given a shot at the start of the year. Melbourne are in a bit of a different situation to Essendon last year and how they treated daniher. There isn't much too lose for Roos to give him on the job training. He's had a full year in the VFL so playing more games there isn't really going to help. He has a mans body so he is ready to go. Nothing solid but for me, signs suggest that he will get a go. And if he doesn't get a go for round 1, then he is a place marker in the side that is a little dearer and I can trade down to Bock or Rohan (which I might still do).

      Kersten is slightly more speculative. Had a solid season in the VFL last year and there is a vacancy up forward with Pods and chappy moving on. I've heard Vardy will play forward with Hawkins as the two towers and Kersten could be the 3rd tall swingman option (aka gunston for the hawks). I think he will get a go early on. The risk is if he doesn't make a fist of it he's played 2 games and is now stinking up the forward line as a non-playing bench. But at that price I think he is as likely as anyone else.

      Hope that helps.

        Dools · 12/01/2014 at 22:11

        G’daay Boy’s
        Kersten is a smokey at the moment- I do not think he is in the top 25. Methinks Bartels is the one to go fwd to aid the big fella Geelong have 8/9 to pick from in def ….Ummhh but this is all second or third hand info so Kersten ATM is smokie

          lostlarrikin · 12/01/2014 at 22:29

          Great stuff guys, this is the rub we want.
          This is what show us… has got to be about when talkin rooks.

          Yeah my point on Hogan was that he may be a 1st yr player but as per Mr. Martin, has had some quality behind the scenes conditioning (what a load of wanky-babble that sounds like) 😀
          Don't quote me on that comment.

          Will see if Roos is talking semantics.

          The Cats side is still a tough nut to crack into with no shortage of height to play with.
          With HMac back in play and 3 half decent rucks brandishing crowbars to get a grip on R1, seems the Tomahawk will have no shortage of friends on the fourth floor.

          Speaking of Geelong, I reckon I hear a Little Creature calling me……

Max · 11/01/2014 at 17:51

Hey guys,

Def: McVeigh, Mitchell, D.Swallow, Suckling, A.Johnson, K.Kolodjashnij (McDonald, Fuller)
Mid: Pendlebury, Selwood, Fyfe, Beams, Shuey, J.Martin, Aish, Polec (Dunstan, O'Rourke)
Ruc: McIntosh, Sandilands (Longer, Nankervis)
Fwd: Dangerfield, D.Martin, C.Rioli, Lamb, Fasolo, Kersten (Garlett, Taylor)

$168,500

Any little bits of input would lovely!

    Daniel · 12/01/2014 at 10:32

    Alex Johnson is a key position player, bit of a risk. Could downgrade him into a cheaper player for your bench and bring L.McDonald to the field and use the spare money elsewhere.

lostlarrikin · 11/01/2014 at 18:34

Seems to be a fair bit of love for D. Swallow at the minute.

I'm questioning why? Am I missing something here?

Yeah sure he has dpp this yr, but this is a guy who has had 3 full seasons and is barely nudging 80 ppg.
Last season saw him play just about every game up back for 79 (incl a 102 and 135 vs melb on both occasions).
Unless the scoop is for him to move into the middle this yr, I cant see the value.

Def prem options are plentiful this yr vs the solitary 100+ def in BJ last yr so no need to roll dice on a player like Swallow IMO.

    throttlefinger · 11/01/2014 at 23:18

    Think for me is the potential. He's a good DPP who comes as a former high draft pick wh's probably going to fly under the radar with GCS. Bigger scores await. Again, potential. Think Ricky Henderson is probably a sounder call yet if you don't have the extra $30K, he's the best in that price range and under, IMO.

      lostlarrikin · 11/01/2014 at 23:41

      Fair nuff throttle, you gotta make ur own luck in this caper.
      MadMick would be testament to that.

      I reckon if Swallow improves his efficiency then he'll get bigger scores.
      His dpp looks awkward for me, to be valuable in the byes.

      Still waitin for Jack Watts to fire…

        throttlefinger · 11/01/2014 at 23:50

        No kidding, Lostlarrikin. Be interesting to see what happens pre-season with Watts. Then again, Zorko looked amazing in NAB last season then threw a tease and burn for the season.

        I go back and forth between rolling dice on Swallow or finding a way to work R. Henderson as the D3. Think his upside is as great as Swallow but less of a gamble.

SCMania · 11/01/2014 at 19:12

Hey guys, because I'm really happy with my team at the moment I don't really want to change it a whole lot, this is my team but it is short about 30k. What changes would you make to make it fit into the salary cap?

DEF: J. Bartel J. McVeigh S. Mitchell P. Hanley M. Suckling K. Koladjashnij ( M. Fuller C. Giles )

MID: G. Ablett S. Pendlebury J. Selwood D. Beams J. Martin D. Tyson J. Aish L. McDonald ( L. Dunstan D. Garlett )

RUC: T. Goldstein M. Lobbe ( M. Apeness D. Currie )

FWD: P. Dangerfield D. Martin J. Hogan N. Bock G. Rohan B. Lennon ( S. Kersten L. Taylor )

I'm thinking Watson or Cotchin for Ablett but Ablett out of the team just doesn't look right? Cheers guys!

    Nuggety · 11/01/2014 at 19:46

    Gday SC I have the same issue and keep coming back to the trucks to save some coin. Bloody risky though… Being bullish about Goldy might be the issue but kruezer or mcevoy for R1 could be a bigger issue…

    Dave · 11/01/2014 at 20:08

    Nice team! I think you should change your back line it's too top heavy maybe put a another Premium in your forward line but other than that great!

    Davd · 12/01/2014 at 13:16

    Agree with Dave need another premium in your forward line backline is probaly abit too top heavy.

    bloke · 12/01/2014 at 15:26

    Just downgrading one of your top 3 MIDs would do it. Don't see a way that you can have those 3 out round 8, as well as Danger, Dusty, Bartel, Beams, Goldy and 5 or 6 rookies. That's 13 or 14 blokes

    Wombats · 12/01/2014 at 15:43

    Gday SC. You might want to have a think about who your rookies are going to replace in their respective teams best 22 from last year and, whether or not they will get subbed if they do play in the first few weeks. A fwd of def with a 70pts capability but only plays 1 qtr might only score 10pts

Sohil · 11/01/2014 at 19:13

DEF: Bartel, Hanley, Henderson |McDonald
Docherty, K.Kolodjashnij, Scharenberg |Fuller
MID: Ablett, Selwood, Rockliff, Beams |Aish
Chapman, Martin, Kelly, Billings |Michie
RUCK: Nic Nat, Sandilands |Apeness
|Currie
FWD: Dangerfield, Roughead, Franklin |Taylor
Boyd, Hogan, Bock |Garlett

    Sohil · 11/01/2014 at 19:19

    Sorry this might be a little better:

    DEF: Bartel, Hanley, Henderson, Docherty, K.Kolodjashnij, Scharenberg (McDonald, Fuller)
    MID: Ablett, Selwood, Rockliff, Beams, Chapman, Martin, Kelly, BIllings (Aish, Michie)
    RUCK: Nic Nat, Sandliands (Apeness, Currie)
    FWD: Dangerfield, Roughead, Franklin, Boyd, Hogan, Bock (Taylor, Garlett)

      Pieman · 11/01/2014 at 20:36

      Hi sohil. KPP are very inconsistent with scoring. Having 5 in your forward line is dangerous. Personally aside from ruckman KPP’s are irrelevant for me. Look for players that run through the midfield. They score better & more consistently. Good luck in 2014!

Disco Stu · 11/01/2014 at 19:27

Alright, first crack at the big one.
Gone for POD with flexibility across the lines
And break outs in new positions. Watts/Darling
Pendles/gazza can be upgraded with cows like
Beams, Daisy, ect. With a few suggested
Tweaks this team could be ready to dance.
Def: Hanley(mid) Hurn, Swallow(mid)
Watts(Fwd) Suckling, McDonald(mid)
Laidler, Fuller
Mid:
Jobe, Fyfe, Priddus, Beams, Daisy, Martin
Tyson, Beams.C, Langdon(def) Garlett(fwd)
Ruck:
Goldstein, McIntosh, Brown(fwd), Nankervis
Fwds:
Danger, Wingard, Dixon, Darling, Clarke,
Bock, Rohan, Curran(def)

lostlarrikin · 11/01/2014 at 19:39

Alright haven't had a crack at this for a few weeks.
Thoughts appreciated.

Def:
Bartel, Jimmy (MID)
Mitchell, Sam (MID)
Hanley, Pearce (MID)
Suckling, Matt
Kolodjashnij, Kade
McDonald, Luke (MID)
Laidler, Jeremy
Fuller, Matthew

Mid:
Pendlebury, Scott
Liberatore, Tom
Fyfe, Nathan
Murphy, Marc
Beams, Dayne
Martin, Jack
Morabito, Anthony
Polec, Jared
O'Rourke, Jonathan
Garlett, Dayle (FWD)

Ruck:
Lobbe, Matthew
Grundy, Brodie
King, Max
Apeness, Michael (FWD)

Fwd:
Dangerfield, Patrick (MID)
Franklin, Lance
Dixon, Charlie (RUC)
Caddy, Josh (MID)
Gunston, Jack
Honeychurch, Mitch (MID)
Markworth, Daniel
Taylor, Lewis (MID)

Byes read 10/11/9, so not ideal but figure KK, Martin, Caddy or McD might be slaughtered by then.

    NutSack · 11/01/2014 at 21:14

    I can see Pendles will be your C but who's going to be your VC? Danger?

      lostlarrikin · 11/01/2014 at 22:42

      yep would say so N'Sack

    Wombats · 12/01/2014 at 15:56

    IMO you're a bit light in the mids. Not sure that martin will play a full game in the middle for the first few weeks maybe 3qtrs at most. Morabito will be in rehab from a world record 25th knee reco, Polec will get a go but he aint no o'meara or wines and has 80pts max full game potential atm probably more like 60 after he gets subbed for A.Young mid 3rd qtr. O'rourke no value as a point scorer or cash cow and Garlett wont play round 1. The other 5 are solid but libba has a crap record against his first 3

      lostlarrikin · 12/01/2014 at 20:09

      Thanks for the feedback 'bats.

      Yeah read your (and N'Sack) assessment on Martin across the site and dont disagree.
      With elevated Rookie prices this yr, correct rookie selection will play a greater part in sorting the Tenors from the Sopranos. Hard to believe that JOM was priced in the low 100's last yr.
      TBH (and it has been repeated many a time here in the last month or so), at this stage of the game, no one really has a friggin clue what rooks will be the cows with the primest cuts. In the end, i'm sure most of us will be looking to field as many bargain basement rookies which are in the R1 lineups.

      On many fronts, I hope that O'Rourke proves you wrong, not that I have any scintillating insight.

      Nice oil on Libba. Looks like he hit a low patch before the bye last yr including games vs Nth and WC. Didnt appear to have a tag tho. The tiges are his bogey for sure, tagged heavily in both games last yr.
      At this stage ill stick with him as his ups far outweigh his downs.

Nuggety · 11/01/2014 at 20:35

Here’s the team so far, pick it to bits!

Def

S Mitchell H Shaw P Hanley

M Suckling K Kolawoteva L McDonald

Cutler Fuller

Mid

G Ablett S Pendlebury T Cotchin D Beams

J Aish D Sheed M Crouch

Honeychurch Hunt

Ruc

W Minson M Lobbe

Apeness Nankervis

For

P Dangerfield L Franklin P Chapman

C Bird T Boyd B Lennon

Garlett Kennedy-Harris

A tick under 20k left..

Cheers

    NutSack · 11/01/2014 at 21:12

    I like the Minson choice! Im going with him also- sick of year after year my rucks being the main problem so its either Minson or Goldy to start with and Im taking Minson. And youre not going with Sandi- smart move! Sandi's not gonna play more than 10 this year so it leaves you and me one more trade to play with. Everyone assumes Sandi will rise in value but with a toe that contains 90% turf well I reckon evreyone who chooses him will be spewing come round 4 or 5 when he's out.

    Max · 11/01/2014 at 21:15

    Missing a midfielder…?

      NutSack · 11/01/2014 at 21:23

      Ouch youre right- with a tick under 20K left the team will have to be totally rethought!

      That said still like Minson who destroys and rips apart games so keep him in.

        Nuggety · 11/01/2014 at 21:49

        Thanks for the insights guys. I’m thinking the mid rooks will make me the cash I need although season prize probably off the cards… Just need to beat my dodgy mates!

        Dools · 11/01/2014 at 21:57

        Keep Plugging away mate

        I m in a world of hurt trying to fit Doddog,Lobbe,Grundy and King in Rucks with sacfificing Elite Mids!
        Mids ATAM S.Mitchell, T.Cotchin, S.SelwoodS,D. Beams. Daisy, J.Martin, C.Beams ,X. Ellis, J.Polich and M.Murphy It all works until I get to Dangermouse so ..Retire to fridge and get some thinking aid for me…..

          lostlarrikin · 11/01/2014 at 22:50

          Hey Dools, I was under the impression that Scooter was more of a DT relevant player.
          Last yr he increased DT avg by 10ppg but SC stayed the same.
          Reckon he has had his SC breakout in 2012 where he put on 20ppg.

          And thoughts on Sammy in the middle? U got some funky swing machine going in the back shed?

          What happened to the man juice reference?
          Did you sell the rights on that one?

          Dools · 11/01/2014 at 23:21

          G’day Lost,
          Young Seelwood will prove me right! 103 SC pts AVG more then happy spending the coin mate….If I’m wrong I will have as it stands more then 360K to correct error by Rnd 3 so Blind has Ace, King suited (ya it’s a long bow i’m drawing but I feel it’s right mate, given the overpriced under achiver’s from that team he stood up and I think WCE’s are the team to play in SC this year…I have a feeling! over to you Fate!!….. Call/Fold or bet? and ya I think I got a groove in the backline but that’s for later
          Damn that phase will never leave me “Man Juice”LOL Thanks for the reply mate

            throttlefinger · 11/01/2014 at 23:34

            Dools, I think at this point you have your high price ruck team (NicNat/Lobbe) and your eco-team (Lobbe/Grundy). Question is do you have Longer as reserve with both?

            Lager logic…fall prey to its will, Dools!

              Dools · 12/01/2014 at 00:12

              Hey TF ,
              Longer is/was my wild card mate…My reasoning is Grundy has the highest foul rate as a ruc 5. someother number…Gez the guy could be my breatho !!!and this damages his score, do you think that 5 month's can improve that? He encroches,inpeads, and slows it all down But on the upside he can win a contest ….He is only 19~! (Good song that) I think Rucs are usually 25/8 YO and Lager logic has prevailed me ol' China …Looking forwards to ytour responce on me Backline LOL (No Zooorko)!!!!

                Dools · 12/01/2014 at 00:16

                Sorry TF'
                Wild card choice B is Sandy = CahChing $$$$ Just has to play 4 games B4 round 8….

                  throttlefinger · 12/01/2014 at 00:23

                  Sandi is not a bad choice for that reason. If it's cash generation and he looks strong in pre-season, it's probably pretty damn wise…especially if Will/Goldie slide and makes for easy upgrade. Same with Grundy.

                  I like Longer as backup but $279K in reserve is a pretty penny. Seems wiser to use Dixon as the emergency ruck.

                    Dools · 12/01/2014 at 01:35

                    Agree mate but I'm in the hole trade wise (I Know it) In order to make the 3 Ruc stat. stand ! So into Infinitity and Beyond!!!! (Do they have beer there)

      Nuggety · 11/01/2014 at 22:25

      Hey Max yeah you’re right Wellingham is the missing mid!

    Rhino · 11/01/2014 at 22:21

    Who is your 10th midfielder mate?

    Michael · 16/01/2014 at 13:34

    Shows how little people tolerate difference when if someone has a name that is not Smith, Brown or Jones they make a joke out of it, maybe they are just too lazy or ignorant to look up the correct spelling. KOLODJASHNIJ !

Max · 11/01/2014 at 21:46

Ahhh, sorry ladies and gents…
Team I posted before was a draft from 1/2 weeks ago… My apologies!
This is the current set up

Def: M.McVeigh, S.Mitchell, P.Hanley, M.Suckling, K.Kolodjashnij, L.McDonald (J.Laidler, M.Fuller)
Mid: S.Pendlebury, J.Selwood, N.Fyfe, D.Beams, L.Shuey, J.Martin, J.Polec, L.Dunstan (J.O'Rourke, L.Perris)
Ruc: H.McIntosh, A.Sandilands (B.Longer, T.Nankervis)
Fwd: P.Dangerfield, D.Martin, C.Rioli, J.Caddy, J.Lamb, S.Kerstan (D.Garlett, L.Taylor)
Salary – $139,100

Thoughts on cash in the bank…? And any positives or possible negatives
Cheers

    NutSack · 11/01/2014 at 22:25

    LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    And yes i like the cash in the bank. This year Im going to trade harder than a honeymooner on the first night and will leave 200+K in the bank once the team is set

    Any team from now will be different til Thursday before Rnd 1.

    Until then- and until we know what the starting rookies are for Round 1our teams are all just fantasy…. oh yeah theyre just fantasy anyway LOL.

      Max · 11/01/2014 at 22:36

      Yeah thanks… More asking about structure. Like the Midprice ruck position or whether 1 premium is a better option. Basically asking for other structures that I could fiddle around with… Like apart from 10 or so players the rest of everyone's team is going to change.

      Thanks though have you had a go at any teams? You seem to know your stuff! Cheers

        NutSack · 11/01/2014 at 22:59

        OK- ohhh and PS no I dont really know that much stuff. Im no Jock, Mad Irishman or Jock. But I know who I dont trust.

        In your team structure expense wise I dont trust Sandi or Rioli and maybe even Fyfe (he scores well but I dont know why he does so maybe CD like his style. H Mac is also a risk when you consider Hale, Roughy and Bailey- but then why would they get HMac if he wasnt going to be their ruckman?

        I have Martin but also dont trust him- his attitude towards the game needs to be 100%.

        Ones you cant and wont lose with are McVeigh, Mitchell, Pendles, Jelwood, Beams, Danger. I would throw into that catergory GAJ, Watson, Minson, Goldy, Cotchin (had a crap year last year and still scored well), Swan (coz he's like a fantasy-greed-pig) and maybe even Bartel.

        Murphy and Thomas also- depends on their mindset in relation to injuries.

        Rookies wise it all comes down to team selections Round 1 so really then only and main focus is – WHO ARE GOING TO BE THE PREMS THAT TAKE UP 75% OF YOUR SALARY CAP? Lock those prems in and rookies will sort themselve out in 2 months 🙂

          NutSack · 11/01/2014 at 23:00

          Or Im no BVC either. Sorry for the double JOck- I meant the Baron!

          lostlarrikin · 11/01/2014 at 23:13

          N'Sack – i reckon ur thinking of McEvoy, who the Hawks recruited, H Mac is a cat (competing with Simpson, Vardy and Blicavs).
          FWIW – Bailey has retired.

          I'm no Jock either, often just referred to as a Jockstrap (i'm sure u get that a lot too :P)

            NutSack · 11/01/2014 at 23:23

            Yeah I am- I was thinking McEvoy but typing HMac- fail. Thanks for the correction. And was also thinking Longer and not Bailey. Geees I better stay of this Jesus Juice coz my brains not connecting to my fingers. Now I know how the J Juice worked for Michael Jackson.

            Hey Larrikin what do think of Blicavs? I thought he had the potential to become damn good- based on him playing a handful of senior games in 10 years, his fitness and his ability to pick up and learn considering his lack of games as an adult. I just reckon his scope for improvement is huge.

            What do you think?

              NutSack · 11/01/2014 at 23:24

              And no I dont get Jock strap often- more like Ballbag. And ballbags have nothing to do with Nut Sacks.

              lostlarrikin · 11/01/2014 at 23:57

              Reckon Blicavs might end up being the 4th wheel at the cats with Simpson, H Mac and Vardy ahead of him.

              Cats had a ruck raffle last yr, but Simpson's end to the season was hard to ignore.
              Simpson and Vardy have had 3-4 seasons at the cattery whereas this was Blicavs 1st.
              If Hmac is fit, then it will make it a crowded sauna to hold ur plums in.

              That said, West and Jpod have left, so there is a spot up fwd for him.

    Antlee · 11/01/2014 at 22:30

    Nice team, my concerns would be Polec and Lamb, both a bit soft to be relied on for good scores.

    Fyfe was frustrating last year for me, can butcher the ball.

    I'd maybe spend some cash and move Rioli to someone else, will get injured.

    Hope this helps

    Dools · 11/01/2014 at 23:49

    G’day Max
    Okay from the def movin’ forwards mate
    I think you have let your self go at D5 . Mid 8,9&10 are also long shots. I think you rucs are good as long as R1,R2, and R3,play regular(Sandi I don’t think so, Longer ATPIT is so far behind and H.Mac has not played in neigh on 2 years) but I would not change that ATM ..way to much pre-season to go yet eh?
    Same Same Fwd structure mate. What I do like is coin in da bank to help corect error’s (If any, who Knows mate you could be right and youve picked winners all the way!)

      Max · 12/01/2014 at 01:08

      Cheers guys, this does help,… I'm no jock, or BVC… Or any of the gang either. Too much pre season left for sure, although this is probably the most important part of the year…. Last year 14 of my players that where in my team at this time of the year I ended up starting with so I like getting a team set up 2/3 weeks before nab cup it's really just a personal choice… What ever works for you do it I guess!

        Dools · 12/01/2014 at 01:23

        G'day Max
        I think you have nailed this site!
        This place is for opinions only. The community, I hope do not wish to brow beat anyone, and your opinion is just as valid as Jocks mate

          Max · 12/01/2014 at 01:31

          Cheers dools!

          Your opinions are top notch keep doing what your doing it's excellent! It is really important that everyone gets involved. We all have our opinions and sharing them is brilliant but in the end don't listen to them if you think differently, always go with what you think looks right or just doing things at different times to others… In the end we all have to put up a team round one and whatever helps you get what you think is the best team do it!
          I can't wait to share and hear opinions! It will be a cracker

Antlee · 11/01/2014 at 22:28

Legends, my team as it stands now, any thoughts would be appreciated…

DEF – McVeigh, Mitchell, D.Swallow, Suckling, Kolodjashnij, Mcdonald (Fuller, Bews)
MID – Ablett, J.Selwood, Watson, Jack, Beams, Savage, Martin, Michie (O'Rourke, Taylor)
RUC – Goldstein, Sandi (Lobb, Nankervis)
FWD – Danger, Martin, Buddy, Fasolo, Kersten, Markworth (Garlett, Honeychurch)
Salary $4200

Thanks

    jockreynolds · 12/01/2014 at 08:41

    Looking solid mate – you heard the latest on Fasolo? little birdy tells me he is having a hell of a time with unjury

      Antlee · 14/01/2014 at 18:16

      Cheers Jock, have made a couple of changes since then, on value picks, see what you think…
      DEF – McVeigh, Mitchell, D.Swallow, Suckling, Kolodjashnij, Mcdonald (Fuller, Laidler)
      MID – Ablett, J.Selwood, Watson, Dal Santo, Beams, Murphy, Martin, Michie (Dunstan, Perris)
      RUC – Goldstein, Sandi (Lobb, Nankervis)
      FWD – Danger, Martin, Buddy, Hawkins, Kersten, Taylor (Garlett, Honeychurch)
      Salary – $20,000

      Another question, is having say $100,000 left over more beneficial than using all the budget, because I have always used it all?

      Am still keen on Savage or Thomas instead of Murphy as I reckon he's a bit soft and the captain's curse has hit him, just like it will on R.Griffen this year.

      Cheers

NutSack · 11/01/2014 at 23:04

Is K Kolojashnij going to get games this year? Everyone has him starting over someone like Laidler ( who was a great player at Carlton- but he was just ignored)

And is Scharenberg going to see games early?

    Dools · 12/01/2014 at 00:22

    Ya but when I do not know
    I think their are others who need to fail in order for KK to have a go or / injury

    Max · 12/01/2014 at 01:18

    KK seems to be in the suns best 25 players, they don't really have much depth.
    Scharenburg is in interesting one, Collingwood probably have the most depth of any team and it's young talented depth, basically who suits Buckley which we will only see rd 1 that's ages away!

    Um If R.Shaw is injured or unable to play next season Z.Jones could be a good pick at around 150k. Yeah he's more of a shut down player but that could allow you to pick A.Johnson at 250k who will do the rebounding instead of Shaw and he could make you a lot of cash… Very dependant on r.shaw mind you

    throttlefinger · 12/01/2014 at 01:28

    With all the rooks I think it's wait and see. Only ones I think have a strong chance are McDonald, Kolo and Lennon. But you never know. Because of this think keeping a variety of structures that have fail safe placeholders would be the way to go. Because right now we all closed eyes and hoping. NAB and R1 will be the eye openers. Good to prepare, though. Why I've done probably 50 versions of my team.

      Dools · 12/01/2014 at 21:12

      Not sold on KK ATM but Lennon and Youge MCDonald are LOCKS and I think Fuller (Wookie)
      Sneaky ones to watch with a big chance to play – Lewis Taylor and maybe Aish (overcoming foot injury ATM) and Sneed WCE
      LT to play straight up in Brisbane Lions Aish is definatatley top 22 Sneed is interchange/Vest material
      Does anyone know anything on Kane Mitchellsan PTA I’m struggling to find him…He owes me!

BroomFC · 11/01/2014 at 23:16

Defenders:
J. Mcveigh, Hanley, M Johnson (Scharenberg)
M Suckling, K Kolodjashnij, L Mcdonald (Fuller)

Mids:
Griffen, Pendlebury, Mundy, Ziebell (Sheed)
D Beams, J Anderson, Martin, Aish (Polec)

Rucks:
Lobbe, Grundy (Longer, Nankervis)

Forwards:
Dangerfield, L Parker, Bellchambers (Kersten)
J Lamb, Lennon, Garlett (L Taylor)

Obviously rookies are subjective to change depending on form, particularly the mids, but hope that maybe a few quirky picks will see me dob a hilux come years end!

    Max · 12/01/2014 at 01:20

    I like lamb, he will get a go around the midfield and HF at GWS

    Daniel · 12/01/2014 at 10:26

    Like the team, although, there are a few heavily priced players on the bench (Scharenberg, Polec, Sheed, Longer). Alright team though.

Dools · 12/01/2014 at 00:27

This is crazy,
Sites just opened less then 12 hrs and the community has hit 85…. No Speed or drink restrictions……Wohhhooooo.!!! Go to the fridge…Like at 100,000 Kms (try it)! Yaahhh… or Ahhhh ..if you have already done it?

Dools · 12/01/2014 at 01:25

Woops went to the fridge too fast and now it's 2014 ….wooh Retro and by the way before I get drawn in to the Vortex the brownlow medellist i…………………………………….

    lostlarrikin · 12/01/2014 at 01:54

    ……….Scooter, obviously

      Dools · 12/01/2014 at 02:08

      Hahahaha Love it !~!!! Whoo all this spinning. I’m so over this time travel lark… so KRudd is Cruddd, ugh I need a drinkkkkkk

        throttlefinger · 12/01/2014 at 04:11

        Been revising team all morning, Dools. Need a drink myself. Driving self crazy. Think I'm setting on NicNat and Lobbe in the ruck. Pendles, Boak, Cotchin, Beams and Treloar as my main Mids. Mitch, Hanley. R. Henderson and M. Weller n the back and Danger, Dusty, Wingard and Titch as main forwards. Why can't NAB start tomorrow?!?

          Dools · 12/01/2014 at 21:16

          I LIke your start mate…M. Weller …Is that code dude MWell?!!!! LOL

            throttlefinger · 12/01/2014 at 23:14

            Got that tip after reading Al Paton initial team: http://goo.gl/ORd6x6 Has decent stats and will probably get time in Saints lineup. Alt to Suckling.

          NutSack · 12/01/2014 at 21:28

          Why cant NAB start tomorrow? Well when it does it is going to be full on- isnt it 18 games in 18 days? And every game televised live on Foxtel? 18 days of footy in a row- and on TV.. that will be pretty hardcore and some sort of record.

          My question is will the Telstra AFL Live subscription broadcast all these NAB Cup games or just the Regular season? If so it will be 18 days at the desk sipping and watching and finalising things… hmmm now Im just waiting for Feb to get here.

            throttlefinger · 12/01/2014 at 23:17

            It did last year, NutSack. I got the full AFL Live (only way I can watch as I'm in the states). My memory is crappy…was NAB set up this way last season? Seemed there were a couple each day.

            Regardless, going to do a lot of note taking. Last season wasn't as mindful of specific players. Can't wait either.

Ray · 12/01/2014 at 02:01

MOD 2 with Q & A

Def: Bartel, Pearce, Mitchell, Grimes, Hampton, Tape, (KK, Fuller).
KK a rookie and would prefer a player with some VFL/SANFL etc experience like Fuller. Know any?

Mid: Dependlebury, Watson, Boak, Beams, Martin, Tyson, Aish, Polec, (McDonald,Garlett)
Changed Griffin to Boak as the world seemed to work Griff out late and in his first year as Captain I am unsure that he can maintain last years form. Boak should be more settled in a settled side and really improve again? All Rookies subject to NAB form. Many many options.

Ruck: HMac, Grundy, (Nankervis, Apeness)
Seems everyones point of contention. I have tried manipulating them and tried buying the best but either way suffered failure 🙁 Apeness is the only lock for his DPP with Dickson. Again, will seriously be watching NAB form on all up to about 400K. Not paying overs this year (thank you Maric and Jacobs 2013)

Fwd: Danger, Wingard, Dixon, Hunter, Hogan, Rohan, (Banfield, Taylor)
I think Dixon could be the next Roughnut and gives me extra in an area that has suffered (same as Rough last year) Hunter is DPP at a nice price but not many like him and he is most at risk. Rohan (unless injured) will play every game (noting what the Swans cut) and I have always (fomr some unknown reason) rated Banfield and just felt he could not find his place at Bris.

I have avoided, mostly Rookies Fwd and Back as there is, generally, only one or two that standup. Happier to take a risk on older players unless I see something outstanding like Vlas last year (McDonald).

throttlefinger · 12/01/2014 at 02:10

What's everyone's thoughts on which WCE players will be the most SC viable in the Mids? Many to consider given their sweet start.

Selwood, I think could make a strong case for M3 but not sure about Priddis and Marsten. And what about Shuey, Wellingham and Hutchings. Any of those worth considering?

And BestCoast Eagles, hope to hear from you…

Thanks!

    @rjc69 · 12/01/2014 at 06:14

    Go through the AFL Prospectus for West Coast. It tells you which players are best for Super Coach.

      throttlefinger · 12/01/2014 at 06:17

      Yeah, I ordered it a month ago and never got delivered. Hiccup shipping to the states, I guess. At this point just trying to get a refund. Woe is meeeeeeeee.

    jockreynolds · 12/01/2014 at 08:39

    Gday there Throtts – I'll be watching the Gaff man closely for value. Absolute stain on the underpant of his career in 2013 but I honestly feel his is a premium of the future

      throttlefinger · 12/01/2014 at 09:23

      Funny you say that, wise one. I was looking at Gaff to replace Daisy at M6. Plus I don't think that ankle is gonna treat him well until he gets some games in and gain some confidence on it. Could be a nice earner too. But yeah, last year went Pollack on the briefs. Thanks Jock!

    Brady · 12/01/2014 at 11:51

    I think Scotty Selwood, with the Rucks back in full force he should rack up some serious supercoach gory along with Masten

      throttlefinger · 12/01/2014 at 11:55

      Yeah, I have a feeling about that too, Brady. Just going back and forth between Scotty and Cotchin for M3. Feeling both will come out like gangbusters.

    Boydo · 15/01/2014 at 19:50

    I like Shuey Throttle!

      throttlefinger · 15/01/2014 at 21:36

      I like him too, Boydo. Think I'm going with Treloar as my M5. Have Scooter as M3 and Gaff as M6. Not especially keen on overloading the mids with Eagles…even though I'm considering Sheed and Ellis last spots.

Dools · 12/01/2014 at 02:23

Have a deeko at Scofielfd TF (I think he is the next big thing fromWA)

@rjc69 · 12/01/2014 at 06:11

What is the opinion of everyone regarding DPPs?

Should the be included in the Backs, Mids & Fwds?

In my opinion in Supercoach they should be included, I have always used DPPs in all positions except ruck which is a bit harder when you have to get a ruck to change in the Mids.

Thoughts please…

Daniel · 12/01/2014 at 10:23

Hi guys, great articles recently, has made me change my team a few times
Def-J.Bartel, P.Hanley, D.Swallow, S.Docherty, K.Kolodjashnij, L.McDonald (T.Langdon, M.Fuller)
Mid-S.Pendlebury, J.Selwood, T.Rockliff, D.Beams, L.Shuey, D.Thomas, J.Martin, M.Crouch (J.O'Rourke, L.Dunstan)
Ruck-N.Naitanui, M.Lobbe (F.Thurlow, T.Nankervis)
For-P.Dangerfield, D.Martin, C.Rioli, J.Caddy, J.Billings, D.Gartlett (L.Taylor, M.Honeychurch)
$7000 left in the bank
Not sure about Matt Crouch at the moment and S.Docherty. Thoughts would be great thanks.

Ben · 12/01/2014 at 10:48

Thoughts on selecting one of Tom Hickey or Billy Longer in the ruck?
Both reasonably cheap and should be getting game tim as the saints best 2 ruckman.

    SCMania · 12/01/2014 at 10:59

    Yeah mate, I'd go with Longer out of the two.

      Dools · 12/01/2014 at 15:51

      Agree but hickey is a smokie watch list mate for sure.

BeaglieBoy · 12/01/2014 at 11:45

Ok…..These are the 15 players I want in my team…LOCKS….everyone else will be slotted in around them depending on pre-season form….whether they are picked for rd1….and team structure….These other players are what we ckeck preseason for…and hopefully fill in the gaps.

MY LOCKS:

Def: McVeigh, Bartel, Hanley Suckling
Mid: Ablett, Pendlebury, Mitchell, Murphy, Beams, Martin,J
Ruck: Sandilands, McIntosh
Fwds: Dangerfield, Martin, Franklin

    Wombats · 12/01/2014 at 16:02

    Hi BB, what is it that makes you believe McVeigh is a better option than Mitchell?

      BeaglieBoy · 12/01/2014 at 17:43

      i have both

        Wombats · 12/01/2014 at 20:03

        yes but only one of them as a permanent defender. neither makes sense as a permanent midfielder

          BeaglieBoy · 12/01/2014 at 22:19

          Mitchell isnt going to be permanent midfielder….once i start trading he will move to the back line…but in the fist 8-10 games he will be my swing man from defence to mids

The ABMasiter · 12/01/2014 at 11:49

Team Name: Hot 'n' Spicy Currie

Shaw, Heath $522,600
Henderson, Ricky $460,000
Grimes, Jack (MID) $436,500
Kolodjashnij, Kade $197,300
Docherty, Sam $285,000
McDonald, Luke (MID) $182,300
Fuller, Matthew $117,300
Suckling, Matt $312,200

Pendlebury, Scott $683,100
Liberatore, Tom $576,200
Selwood, Scott $559,800
Ziebell, Jack $513,600
Beams, Dayne $497,200
Treloar, Adam $469,500
Martin, Jack $222,300
Aish, James $187,300
Taylor, Lewis (FWD) $117,300
Dunstan, Luke $132,300

Grundy, Brodie $363,300
McIntosh, Hamish $332,900
Nankervis, Toby $117,300
Currie, Daniel $123,900

Dangerfield, Patrick (MID) $609,000
Parker, Luke (MID) $468,800
Riewoldt, Nick $567,100
Hunter, Lachlan $284,700
Hogan, Jesse $217,300
Garlett, Dayle (MID) $117,300
Kennedy-Harris, Jay $117,300
Rohan, Gary $176,200

And I was thinking about Shane Savage as an inclusion?

Paul · 12/01/2014 at 12:24

Thank you Fantasy Footy Legends,
Posted my first draft team up yesterday & being a relatively new addition to this wonderful community (in fact quite new to the intricasies of AFL, being a league convert), I have taken your worldly wisdom on board & over countless froths last night followed by an aching scone accompanied with eyes that you could find your way to Wagga Wagga on this morning, I have come up with the following 2nd draft. (mmmm draught, maybe time for a recovery me thinks). Here we go…..

Def: J Bartel, P Hanley, D Swallow, M Suckling, K Kardashian, L McDonald, J Laidler, M Fuller

Mid: S Pendlebury, N Fyfe, J McVeigh, D Beams, J Caddy, J Martin, J Aish, X Ellis, A Morabito

Ruc: M Lobbe, H McIntosh, M Apeness, T Nankervis

Fwd: P Dangerfield, D Martin, C Dixon, T Mitchell, J Hogan, J Billings, S Kersten, D Garlett

$154,000 left in the kitty. Thanks again & Cheers!

    Paul · 12/01/2014 at 12:26

    Unfortunately I've also been left with 13 outs for round 8, so still much work to do. Would love any more suggestions or feedback that you may have. I hope to be able to help a keen up & comer one days myself. Thanks again. Oh & Cheers!!!

      Dools · 12/01/2014 at 16:12

      G'day Paul,
      Excellent effort mate – Beer "Is there nothing it can't do?" Great war chest$$
      Now to experiment mate Save that team….Put McV in Defence but keep Bartel Slot Dangermouse to midgap now see if you can score another for his spot…..When youve done that look back at origanal team Ponder again over a cold one…It's infuriating but great fun! especially whilst drinking doing ligit research Win Win

    JJFYZZ · 12/01/2014 at 13:50

    Hi Paul,

    Welcome to AFL. The greatest game on earth. As Izzy and Hunt know learning AFL can take a while. You've joined a great community with most really willing to help and get in to the spirit of the game.

    My advice would be to move McVeigh from the mids to the backs. The mids typically score more heavily so any mids that you can move to the backs (or fwds) adds another mid.

    Good luck

    JJFYZZ

      Paul · 12/01/2014 at 13:23

      Thankyou JJFYZZ, J McVeigh is there as a DPP option to swap between the mid & def, in this case with Bartel, Hanley, Swallow or McDonald, so I think I may need one of them in the midfield to give that flexibility. Is there much value in the DPP players or do you think going with a specialist midfield is a better way to go?

    Wombats · 12/01/2014 at 20:02

    Absolute genius putting Kimmy Kardashian on the back flank. When she sticks that massive hail damaged arse of hers out, no forward will get near the ball!

meanieoh · 12/01/2014 at 12:30

v2.0

DEF: Bartel, Hurn, Watts, Suckling, K.Kolodjashnij, L.McDonald (Langdon, Fuller)
MID: Pendlebury, M.Murphy, D.Beams, Gaff, D.Thomas, Savage, J.Martin, Michie (L.Taylor, Honeychurch)
RUC: Naitanui, Dixon (Apeness, Nankervis)
FWD: Dangerfield, D.Martin, Chapman, Darling, Mayes, Caddy (Close, Garlett)

$200 left

The selection of Darling & Hurn are purely based on Simpsons hope of playing Darling as a mid and Hurn moving to the wing – so could very well change as pre-season progresses.

The article that details Simpsons intentions is here: http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/kim-hagdorn-west

    JJFYZZ · 12/01/2014 at 13:46

    I was tossing up between Chappy and Franklin in the forward line. Went with Franklin but got burnt by both last year.!! Be interesting to see if Buddy can repay the the Sydney $$$$

      Dools · 12/01/2014 at 16:16

      I Think Buddy will have a big roll in the mids this year.
      I also think Chappy has a point to prove and linked up with Bomber Thompson I think he will be a Giant this season (Depending on injury reports and position actually played in?)

        JJFYZZ · 13/01/2014 at 09:37

        Hi Dools,

        I agree I think Chappy will have a point o prove and when fit and able will score very well. The question will be how fit and able will he be.

        I'm still on Chappy (esp at that price) and may add him to the team, although I can't see him being in the final 22.

        JJ

    Nuggety · 12/01/2014 at 19:04

    Like Sam Mayes selection. The guys a gun , but if he does breakout will cop a tag. Worth a shot though…

scooter · 12/01/2014 at 13:22

Def Mitchell Bartel Hanley kk Cutler fuller ( Langdon tippet). Mids gaz pendles swan jelwood Watson j Martin polec McDonald ( honeychurch dunstan ). Rucks minson Grundy ( nankervis king ). Fwd danger Martin rough Hogan kersten Taylor garlett jkh). Very much guns and rookies approach

JJFYZZ · 12/01/2014 at 13:31

Hi Everyone,

Shaping up to be a cracker of a season.

Here's my team Cracker's 1st XVIII Mk2. Love to hear any thoughts. Let's be fair though, it'll change 100 times between now and Rnd 1 esp during the preseason cup.

Good luck everyone.

Backs: Bartel, McVeigh, Hanley, Suckling, Delaney, L McDonald (Siggins, J Kolodjashnij)
Mids: Pendles, Watson, Barlow, D Beams, Grigg, J Martin, D Tyson, C Beams (M Crouch, Honeychurch)
Rucks: Nic Nat, Sandi (Longer, Apeness)
Forwards: Danger, Roughy, Franklin, Hogan, Fasolo, Billings (D Garlett, B Brown)

JJFYZZ

Hugh G · 12/01/2014 at 15:08

Tom Mitchell or Lukey Parker?

BeaglieBoy · 12/01/2014 at 15:13

Does the community think that its possible to fit all of BARTEL, MCVEIGH, HODGE, HANLEY AND MITCHELL into the one side…one or two in the mids?

    Hugh G · 12/01/2014 at 15:28

    I actually really like that idea, then just gradually over time move them all to def during trades.. could be genius!!

Hugh G · 12/01/2014 at 15:27

Hey Jock, love the website, hanging for the next podcast..

Ok, my team V2..

Still have planty of coin in the bank ($644,600) for changes that are inevitable after pre season starts and before round 1 bounce.. I have tried to find the best value of set and forget players and rookies. Mid field is very mid priced on paper, but all have huge potential for massive scores.

Defs..
McVeigh, Mitchell, Swallow
Docherty, McDonald, Laidler
(Gardiner, Fuller)

Mids..
Pendlebury, Murphy, Beams, Shuey
Thomas, Martin, Michie, O’Rourke
(Honeychurch, Perris)

Rucks..
Lobbe, Sandilands
(Nankervis, Apeness)

Fwds..
Dangerfield, Martin, Parker
Darling, Lamb, Kersten
(Taylor, Gartlett)

All 4 rucks are still very much in the air. Still want to find a spot for Charlie Dixon. Am secretly hoping Daisy isnt fit for rnd 1 so he can make room for either Cotchin, Ziebell, Cunnington or Bastinac. Darling comes into my side on the word that he will play a major midfield roll this yr. M3 & M4 spots will ultimately be between Buddy, Parker, Mitchell, Dixon & Darling.

@taylorwoof · 12/01/2014 at 16:24

Latest crack at my team.

DEF: J.McVeigh, S.Mitchell, P.Hanley, M.Suckling, E.Wood, K.Kolodjashnij (J.Laidler & M.Fuller)

MID: G.Ablett, R.Griffen, M.Barlow, D.Beams, D.Thomas, J.Martin, D.Tyson, C.Beams (X.Ellis & M.Hallahan)

RUCK: H.McIntosh, A.Sandilands (D.Currie & T.Derickx)

FWD: P.Dangerfield, D.Martin, L.Franklin, S.Motlop, S.Higgins, G.Rohan (T.Banfield & D.Gartlett)

Remaining Salary: $15,400

Bye Breakdown 10/10/10

Rookie: 47%, Mid 27%, Prem 27%

Big punts on the returning ruckmen in HMac & Sandi. Found the tail end of the FWD line quite difficult. Tossed up between a few: Higgins, M.Clark, Hogan, Fasolo etc….i think they're all 'drumsticks/cornettos' at this stage (different names, but same thing). They will no doubt break up once NAB games are played. Slotted Gary Rohan in the F7, even though he's not a prolific scorer…i think he should get plenty of games early and increase in value. Fwd rookies, i have no idea…..just filling in spaces at the moment.

Will · 12/01/2014 at 18:06

What do we think about B.Ellis ?

Would have averaged quite a bit more if you take into account his sub affected scores early in his innings!
Can rack up the disposals, and zero chance of a tag when you have the likes of Cotchin and Deledio.

Thoughts and feedback?

    Ernest · 12/01/2014 at 19:13

    Being a Tigers supporter I highly regard Ellis and think he is an absolute star, however seeing as how he is now a pure mid I can't see him being worthy of selection, if he was Mid/Def he would of been one of my first few picks. He is ready to explode.
    Could be a nice choice in a draft leagues.

      Will · 13/01/2014 at 10:50

      Cheers mate! theres something about the bloke i feel, but probably will give him a skip

meanieoh · 12/01/2014 at 18:10

If anyone's interested, here's an opinion piece in the Herald Sun that Paul Roos wrote last season about the Melbourne Demons.

Perhaps an insight as to what to expect? Or merely the view of someone who was outside looking in at the time?
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/why-melbour

meanieohq · 12/01/2014 at 18:22

Sam Jacobs is priced at $460K, he's my biggest regret from having in my side last year.

But there's an interesting article here: http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/summer-watc

Might actually be someone to watch over preseason for that price.

    @taylorwoof · 13/01/2014 at 12:24

    I felt your pain during last season…..he burnt me hard. I missed the boat on trading him out due to untimely injuries to other players. Was only able to upgrade him to Will Minson for the Grand Final.

    I'd prefer to take a risk on HMac and/or Sandi if they're sound come Round 1.

jeff · 12/01/2014 at 18:58

Saw alot of U18s last year and think the 3 rookie mids most likely to see early action and also score well are sheed , j Martin and dunstan so will be starting with these to earn cash…anybody see my sense here or prefer others?

    NutSack · 12/01/2014 at 19:24

    J Martin is more a selection for points than $- he's almost twice as much as other rookies so he needs to average double the other rookies scores. Highly unlikely. Yes he may be better than JOM but he is not as relevant SC wise so I'm not going with him because youre down 100K from Round 1.

    Last year JOM was 115K and increased to 415k after 8 rounds averaging 92.

    With Martin almost double that price I would assume he would need to average double that score to increase in 300K in the same 8 rounds- I would guess he would need to average over 160 points to have same increase and it is extremely unlikely he will average anymore than JOM did.

    So I would say no Martin is not a ca$h cow as he would need to average more than Pendles to increase in value significantly and one vest will destroy his average for a month.

    So he is a no for me.

      Hugh G · 12/01/2014 at 19:52

      Im also questioning the inclusion of Jack Martin.. Is there a better choice of perhaps saving the $100k, taking a cheaper Rookie, and upgrade either a mid price def, mid or fwd.. Got a feeling the selection of Martin could depend on if Daisy is fully fit round 1.

Ernie · 12/01/2014 at 19:07

DEF: J. McVeigh, S. Mitchell, M. Hibberd, M. Suckling, K. Kolodjashnij, L. McDonald (M. Fuller, T. Cutler)
MID: S. Pendlebury, J. Selwood, J. Watson, T. Cotchin, D. Beams, D. Thomas, J. Martin, D. Sheed (L. Dunstan, D. Garlett)
RUC: M. Lobbe, B. Grundy (M. Apeness, R. Lobb)
FWD: P. Dangerfield, L. Franklin, R. Gray, J. Hogan, G. Rohan, S. Kersten (D. Markworth, L. Taylor)
CASH LEFT: $68,300

Rookies subject to change, unsure as to how the Ruck and Fwds will end up as they are easily my weaker lines, Def and Mids should remain the same baring injury etc.

    Dools · 12/01/2014 at 21:20

    Love the mids and fwds Ernie with a solid backline until D5 but excellent coverage IMO at this point
    You Ruc Dept not sold on but nice all round team mate

      Favalinko · 13/01/2014 at 18:53

      ernie you have a lot of round 8 mids in the bye round

James · 12/01/2014 at 19:21

Marc Murphy or Luke Shuey?

    @taylorwoof · 12/01/2014 at 19:44

    Marc Murphy #proven

Wombats · 12/01/2014 at 19:58

This is the best I can do after a dozen attempts with the Higginator: Projected Rd Score = 1778
The team I liked most only scores 1741 on the 'Higginator'

D: Bartel, Mitchell, Swallow, Suckling, Watson, McDonald (Georgiou, Fuller)
C: Ablett, J.Steven, K.Jack, Murphy, D.Beams, D.Thomas, Martin, J.Kelly, (j.hunt, d.garlett)
R:Warnock, Grundy (Brown, Holmes)
F:N.Riewaldt, Wingard, M.Robinson, Vardy, Boyd, Hogan (spina, luxford)

    Ernest · 12/01/2014 at 20:10

    Robinson, Vardy, Boyd, Kelly and even Warnock are questionable choices at best, bar Robinson and maybe Vardy they probably won't play many games if any at all in 2014.

    Dools · 12/01/2014 at 20:57

    Hey Wombats, Ignore the Hig Machine dude – YOU like what you have…
    It’s like pirate rules -” More like a guide line Ahhhgghh”

Farnzy · 12/01/2014 at 21:09

DEF: J. McVeigh, S. Mitchell, P. Hanley, M. Suckling, K. Kolodjashnij, L. McDonald (J. Laidler, M. Fuller)
MID: S. Pendlebury, J. Watson, M. Murphy, D. Beams, D. Thomas, J. Martin, C. Beams, V. Michie (J. Polec, D. Garlett)
RUC: M. Lobbe, H. McIntosh (A. Sandilands, D. Currie)
FWD: P. Dangerfield, D. Martin, L. Franklin, M. Clark, J. Lamb, A. Fasolo (G. Rohan, S. Kersten)

    @taylorwoof · 13/01/2014 at 12:31

    Really nice team Farnzy!

    I like the defense (have a similar line up atm).
    Midfield looks really good #rocksolid
    Rucks, personally i couldn't pick Lobbe, but he's a nice POD.
    Fwd line, F1-3 super. F4-6….this is going to be the toughest for everyone. At present those 3 look valid selections, but no doubt they'll change as the season opener draws closer.

    Really good side mate. Can you tell me about S.Kersten….seen him in a few sides, but don't know a lot about him. Fwd rookies look a bit thin at present.

      Farnzy · 13/01/2014 at 13:39

      Thanks for the nice comments about my team. ATM I'd be happy to start the season unchanged but I have no doubt it will change a few times before round 1 like everyone else! Regarding Kersten, apparently he had a solid year in the 2's last year and with JPod, Chappy, Enright and Hunt being moved on they'll have to replace them with someone. Like all rookies wait for NAB games and see if he gets a run, if so at his price I reckon his worth a punt.

Dools · 12/01/2014 at 21:24

Farnsey,
As per Ernie reply Backline and ruc dept
Canot fault the mids buddy..You do know that Fasolo is extreamly doubtful for R 1 mate? Love to see J Lamb as F 7 Nice

    Farnzy · 13/01/2014 at 09:47

    Cheers mate, yeah if Fasolo isn't ready for round 1 he will be downgraded to Bock or Lennon pending their selection.

Edward · 12/01/2014 at 21:39

Hey guys just need some help

Which two should I pick from kade kolodjashnij Luke McDonald and matt scharenberg and is matt fuller worth a look at?

    SCMania · 12/01/2014 at 21:47

    McDonald and KK are locks and Fuller should be your bench cover, MS won't play a whole lot with his foot injury.

    Dools · 12/01/2014 at 21:52

    Fuller & Young McDonald with KK as Cover – Scharenberg is for later in the season when all around him fall again…

SCMania · 12/01/2014 at 21:52

Who would be the first you would get rid of out of:

G. Rohan, N. Bock, B. Lennon, J. Hogan, S. Kersten and L. Taylor.

Thanks guys!

    Edward · 12/01/2014 at 22:32

    I'd say B. Lennon just because i'm not too sure about his job security

      Dools · 12/01/2014 at 22:43

      Naw Edward ,
      Lennon is a definate strater mate at this point in time
      , I beleive he is in there top 22 not vest material…Player

        SCMania · 13/01/2014 at 08:01

        Ok…. Who would you get rid of Dools?

          SCMania · 13/01/2014 at 08:04

          Sorry, down…hahah

    throttlefinger · 13/01/2014 at 10:35

    Kersten. Low chance of getting in the early chance of the year because he plays on Cats. Hogan and Lennon will be in early. Bock and Rohan I'm sure it depends on pre-season form coming back from injury. But if they don't crap the bed I'm sure they'll get time in an early round as well.

Dools · 12/01/2014 at 21:58

Holy Batcrap? Have theyall let ya down already mate??????
At This Point In Time mate prob. Kersten

    lostlarrikin · 12/01/2014 at 22:43

    Hey Juiceman,
    I'll ask the question…
    U got any oil on Lennon and Taylor?

      Max · 12/01/2014 at 23:59

      G'day Lostlarrikin,

      Taylor is deffinately ready to play in the big league and will deffinately see some game time this year a lot like Zorko 2 years back. High efficiency and a goalkicker…

      Lennon I haven't got much, he may need a few injuries to get a place

      Hope this helps

        lostlarrikin · 13/01/2014 at 00:46

        Thnx Max (or is that TF?)
        Yeah Taylor looks ready for a mid role TBH, based on his exploits last yr (hasnt set the world on fire with his fwd work)
        If thats the case then will be vying with Aish for a mid gig.
        Ahh heck, the LIons are the biggest mixed bag ever, all those departures could turn into a lot of cows.

          throttlefinger · 13/01/2014 at 08:53

          May try to put both in the reserves if possible. Word is Lennon is a dead-on shooter, which the Tiges need. May not get R1 but will get a chance sooner rather than later.

    Max · 12/01/2014 at 23:51

    Not keen Kersten dools? Maybe not much of a Supercoach scorer but a rookie that should play more often than not at 120k would surely be a worthy pick for F6 or F7… Maybe tell us why your not keen keep us on our toes and thinking!

2013 Premiers · 12/01/2014 at 23:47

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e
n
d
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r
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MID
SYD X
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$562,000
MID
HAW X
3. Suckling, M
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HAW X
4. Docherty, S
$285,000
CAR X
5. Kolodjashnij, K
$197,300
GCS X
6. Edwards, S
$185,700
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m
i
d
f
i
e
l
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7. Ablett, G
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8. Selwood, J
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FWD
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DEF
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11. Cotchin, T
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RIC X
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14. Beams, C
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r
u
c
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o
r
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Max · 12/01/2014 at 23:47

Absolutely loving the love for Lamb!!! He averaged 58% game time with an average of 45 playing predominately inside forward 50. Been in GWS' best 22 he has elite ball use and he's a hard nut aswell. He can be used in the midfield like in the NEAFL where he averaged 27 disposals and 7 tackles per game! If he gets a run in the midfield at GWS potential breakout looming. Watch nab cup.

If anyone wants something like this for other players… Ask I'm willing to help.

    Max · 12/01/2014 at 23:49

    Take into account he has had 3 years been at an AFL club and he was a fringe player at Sydney which is a starter at 75% of other clubs…

      Hugh G · 13/01/2014 at 22:47

      O’Rourke?

Dools · 12/01/2014 at 23:54

Hi Lost,

Ya I got oil !
Lennon is on.
Taylor is goooooo
No Love for me mate?
Let my bad moniker go!
Where do I source this? I ask you Cry? Never mind mate….Don't Ask me why.
Off to the fridge he hurried and scurried …..Tripped back in time all in a hurry…only to find what he had left all laong….Another Lostlarrikin confused by this song..
(Damn you lost I 'm trapped in rymying couplets.)……….So fare tee well…
Gallant young Sir…I'm off to the fridge ..
To end this dirge….. (Now I really dislike ya Lost… Helpppppppppppppp)

    lostlarrikin · 13/01/2014 at 01:09

    U singeth v.badly
    Atomic badly!

    Fridge needeth be closer to 'puter (or bed perhaps).

    As my physician Dr. Faithless prescribed: We become one……

    Looks unlikely that moniker will fade, in fact podcast immortality looks more likely 😀

      Dools · 13/01/2014 at 01:19

      ‘Damn It Jim ‘ “He is going to Die”
      (ou figere out the perathisisisiss stuff)
      If Lostlarikin is willing to try
      To save his life I bet he will see
      Do not take the Mick of Irish or me.

lostlarrikin · 13/01/2014 at 01:45

We can get lost in the Sparkle and Fade Dools.
I dont take meeself much serious.
I'm as Irish as they come….#rangamanwithoutbrackets

    Dools · 13/01/2014 at 14:54

    Hi Max
    G. Rohan, N. Bock, B. Lennon, J. Hogan, S. Kersten and L. Taylor. from SCMania was which one I would cut/ drop
    Kersten is a great talent but I do not see him as a regular top 22 pick for the Cats.

    Dools · 13/01/2014 at 15:00

    Hi Lost –
    I'm just recovering from rhymes mate
    – I do not take meself to serious either . I think It's an Irish trait.

Dave · 13/01/2014 at 01:46

Sportsbets Fantasy footy is open for 2014. You can win $50.000 so it's worth putting a team in, also it's free to play. Take a look _ http://bit.ly/SBfantasyfooty

    lostlarrikin · 13/01/2014 at 01:57

    Thnx Dave, will be in this yr

Callum · 13/01/2014 at 09:11

What are your thoughts on armitage? I feel like he may be the one to step up in place of dal santo, also jack steven could do the same even though last year he was possibly st kildas best midfielder

    @taylorwoof · 13/01/2014 at 12:35

    Good question Callum!

    I actually didn't think of this…..Dal use to attract a tag most weeks too. Who cops the tag now? Bit hard to target Lenny Hayes as he'll always get his own ball. Montagna perhaps the logical one to go too…..or do teams tag a Steven or Armitage?

      Callum · 13/01/2014 at 19:42

      Yeah i am thinking along the same lines to. Though most likely for the start of the season i think teams will target steven or montagna

Cameron · 13/01/2014 at 11:51

Few POD's here, putting focus into upgrades and moving players around once the cash has been milked from the rookies.
Tear it apart!

DEF: Bartel, Birchall, Dunn, Suckling, Kolodjashnij, Scharenberg (Fuller/Langdon)
MID: Jelwood, Barlow, Steven, Cotchin, S Mitchell, J Martin, Tyson, O'Rourke (McDonald/Honeychurch)
RUCK: Grundy, McIntosh (Thurlow/Nankervis)
FWD: Danger, Dusty, Walters, Bellchambers, Kersten, Kennedy-Harris (Garlett/Taylor)

    @taylorwoof · 13/01/2014 at 12:48

    I like the Barlow selection Cam! I'm confident he can improve on his 2013 season average (110.0)

    2010: 13 games @ 116.0
    2011: 9 games @ 83.6
    2012: 22 games @ 95.0
    2013: 21 games @ 110.0

    He continues to improve his average each year since that horror injury in 2010.

    Scored 92+ in 19/21 games last year.

    Rounds 7 to 21 he averaged 118.46 (104 lowest in this period, 151 highest)

    derek · 14/01/2014 at 14:00

    Dunn is an interesting pick. I would look at getting Mitchell into the backline and use $440k in the mids to get someone like T Adams, Conca, Zorko. Select Sam in the backline and gives you more options for the same price in the mids

SCMania · 13/01/2014 at 12:44

A couple of questions here:

Dom Sheed or James Aish?

Which 2 out of Lennon, Taylor and Kersten?

Maric, McEvoy NicNat, Mumford or Lobbe?

How do you think Zorko will go and a projected AVE?

Cotchin or Watson?

Thanks guys!

    Max · 13/01/2014 at 14:50

    Hey SCMania,
    I reckon Sheed would be similar to Ollie wines so a better scorer but Aish is more likely to get game time which is why I'm picking Aish for now.
    I'd go Taylor and Kersten for the same above reason…
    I'm going for proven performers in ruck and the best of them would be. Nic Nat or mummy…
    Zorko will be 95-105 but, he could throw in a couple of 60's but he could also put a 150 on the board

      SCMania · 13/01/2014 at 15:17

      Thanks mate what team below do you think is best?

      derek · 14/01/2014 at 13:55

      I won't be having either Cox or NitNat if BOTH are playing. It is proven that neither score that well if both play. If one of them is to get injured, i'll be the first to be getting the other into my team

SCMania · 13/01/2014 at 13:12

Which team would you go with at the moment?

Team 1:

DEF: S. Mitchell J. Bartel J. McVeigh P. Hanley M. Suckling K. Koladjashnij ( M. Fuller C. Giles )

MID: G. Ablett J. Selwood S. Pendlebury D. Beams J. Martin D. Tyson L. McDonald L. Dunstan ( D. Garlett J. O' Rourke )

RUC: T. Goldstein M. Lobbe ( M. Apeness D. Currie )

FWD: P. Dangerfield D. Martin J. Hogan N. Bock G. Rohan B. Lennon ( S. Kersten L. Taylor )

33k left

Or

Team 2:

DEF: S. Mitchell J. Bartel J. McVeigh M. Suckling K. Koladjashnij L. McDonald ( M. Fuller C. Giles )

MID: S. Pendlebury J. Selwood T. Cotchin M. Murphy D. Beams J. Martin D. Tyson D. Sheed ( D. Garlett L. Dunstan )

RUC: I. Maric B. Grundy ( M. Apeness D. Currie )

FWD: P. Dangerfield D. Martin D. Zorko J. Hogan N. Bock G. Rohan ( S. Kersten L. Taylor )

37k left

Thoughts and opinions on both teams would be very much appreciated!

    Dools · 13/01/2014 at 15:12

    Hi Mate both teams are good. It depends on how you feel about Gary being in or outa the team….
    I like very much the inclusion of Zorko ( I’m nearing forgivness for last years efforts) in team 2

      SCMania · 13/01/2014 at 15:19

      Thanks Dools, Ablett is always going to be safe but with his price there could be better options, there still is a big chance he will be there by the seasons start. What changes do you suggest for both teams?

        Dools · 13/01/2014 at 15:50

        In the Defence – I’m looking at Scoffield WCE (Think he could be Hanley for 2014 and 300K) HANLEY all teams have done thre homework on the lad – I had him from the start last campaigne I sent e-mails to Jock on him last year early Jan 13. Singing his praises It took a while but finally convinced Jock to have a look at the lad after the Party At the Bungelow!!
        Cotchin is solid and underpriced but for a little more Son of Tim is ecellent.
        Big Ivan I like but Grundy I feel is more R3 maybe even look a t McIntosh as a partner (Cats are very very excited for himthis season)
        Dusty is an enigma to me capable of brilliance but not doing it. I would be looking a t Buddy for that slot or even Wingard. I’m also keen on X Ellis if fit definatley in WCE top 22. Well thats my 2 cents mate hope to hear from ya soon

    Farnzy · 13/01/2014 at 16:12

    Hi SCMania, Teams 1 and 2 both look good but if I was to choose between them I'd pick Team 2. Overall it's a more balanced side! DEF: 3 top notch premo's MIDS: 5 of the best RUC: Maric should return to his 2012 form and Grundy has the potential to get to premium status at some point during the year FWD: providing Zorko gets back to playing some consistent footy, much like the back line you will be starting with 3 very solid premo's! Most rookies are just place holders at this stage but in saying that you've got it pretty spot on at the moment. Well done and good luck.

      SCMania · 13/01/2014 at 17:42

      Cheers Farnzy, with the rookies I doing really care about their scoring ability, just if they'll get games.

    throttlefinger · 13/01/2014 at 22:08

    Agree with Dools. Like mid and fwd structure of #2 better. Def and rucs are stronger in #1. Toss up.

    @taylorwoof · 14/01/2014 at 13:33

    I prefer the 2nd squad.

    5-0-3 Starting Midfield is better the better option than 4-0-4 (Inc Beams as a Premium).

    Also the tail isn't as long on the forward line in squad two.

    I'd roll the dice on HMac or Sandi > Maric. Both can score as good as Maric, but come with a cheaper price tag. Though….yes more risk included. How will Maric go with the addition of Hampson? Or does Hampson play more fwd (even though i don't think he's much of a fwd).

Dishlickers · 13/01/2014 at 14:34

1. Walker, A. 2. Bartel, J 3. Hanley, P
4. Duffield, P 5. Suckling, M 6. McDonald, L
( 23. Laidler, J 24. Fuller, M )

7. Liberatore, T 8. Kennedy, J 9. Beams, D 10. Treloar, A
11. Gaff, A 12. Martin, J 13. Tyson, D 14. Beams, C
( 25. Michie, V 26. Taylor, L)

15. Grundy, B 16. McIntosh, H
( 27. Longer, B 28. Mitchell, P )

17. Dangerfield, P 18. Wingard, C 19. Zorko, D
20. Daniher, J 21. Clark, M 22. Fasolo, A
( 29. Bock, N 30. Garlett, D )

yurkins · 13/01/2014 at 16:21

It's my first post for a while but loving the info coming through.

My question… I really don't see the point in investing a million bucks in the ruck and having 300k sitting on the bench? ^^^^^^ Dishlicker is like a few people to promote this approach in 2014. Am i missing something Community/ Jock? Will Grundy and Longer both make good enough cash to invest in them as cows and miss out on having, lets say, McEvoy and Jacobs/Lobbe/Mummy churning out 90+ for the first 8 weeks before you cull the cows? I don't get it. Whilst it offers the opportunity to move into performing rucks a third of the way into the season it will cost in excess of 300 + points I reckon, taking you off the leaders' pace for the $50k!

Am I missing something?

SCMania · 13/01/2014 at 16:22

Ivan Maric or Matthew Lobbe?

    Dools · 13/01/2014 at 16:49

    Hmmm Lobbe is the buzz word ATM. I have him pencilled in as R2 Not as R1 and Maric is Not an R2 so difficult to answer…
    I think Maric is a solid choice, as is Lobbe….So for me I’d go with value in playing team so Maric…. Just

    throttlefinger · 13/01/2014 at 22:06

    Really depends how much Hampson helps out Maric. Think if he can, it will give Maric more scoring opportunities and bigger SC scores. Hope it also cuts down on his injuries. If picking now, would go with Lobbe. Value plus upside.

      Dools · 13/01/2014 at 23:27

      I do’n’t know mate, with assistance Maric offers far more then just a RUC- Hampson is just an aide to enable freedom of movement for Ivan a IMO –
      Lobbe is a loc k as R 2/3 if you have the Brass ????

        throttlefinger · 13/01/2014 at 23:35

        Agree. Think we're saying the same thing…except you're saying it better.

        Like you Dools, the ruc is giving me fits. Every other position is coming together nicely. Can't get decide for my R1. And if McE, NicNat and Mummy, the way I have everything else structured won't allow Lobbe. Only Grundy. Maybe Sandi if I want to go for the upgrade. Ugggggh.

          Dools · 13/01/2014 at 23:51

          Hey mate, a thought from outside the square…. Nicolls GCS or heaven forefend……..DA Da DAH…(Que brassy trumpets) McIntosh!

            throttlefinger · 14/01/2014 at 00:05

            Man, I had Nicholls last year and LOVE him. Think he doesn't have enough experience to warrant that price tag. Want to see how well he does with Dixon and Smith back in the lineup. He was lone ruck when he put up those monster scores…even though he looked like a beast in that rain game last season.

            McIntosh is a big waiter. Need to see how he handles himself in preseason and first two rounds. Low on him. Loooooooooooow.

          Dools · 14/01/2014 at 00:45

          I hear ya on McIntosh but Low on experiance what does this kid have to do mate? He was asesome Lets try that again AWESOME..But I agree or do I ? I have a Tingle and it’s somewhere I can rub so…Off to to the research thing..(Just insert Fridge) I will get back to ya…

Stan · 13/01/2014 at 17:33

1. Vlastuin, N
$405,200
MID
RIC X
2. Richards, T
$374,100
SYD X
3. Whitecross, B
$332,300
HAW X
4. Brown, L
$326,500
ADE X
5. Thurlow, J
$285,900
GEE X
6. Docherty, S
$285,000
CAR X
23. Bootsma, J
$217,000
CAR X
24. Fuller, M
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m
i
d
f
i
e
l
d
7. Pendlebury, S
$683,100
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8. Dangerfield, P
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FWD
ADE X
9. Rockliff, T
$591,500
BRL X
10. Heppell, D
$491,400
ESS X
11. Thomas, D
$341,800
CAR X
12. Caddy, J
$325,300
FWD
GEE X
13. Martin, J
$222,300
GCS X
14. Aish, J
$187,300
BRL X
25. Morabito, A
$123,900
FRE X
26. O'Rourke, J
$123,900
GWS X
r
u
c
k
s
15. Minson, W
$616,600
WBD X
16. Grundy, B
$363,300
COL X
27. Daw, M
$279,600
FWD
NTH X
28. Apeness, M
$137,300
FWD
FRE X
f
o
r
w
a
r
d
s
17. Wingard, C
$531,800
MID
PTA X
18. Franklin, L
$487,700
SYD X
19. Podsiadly, J
$411,600
ADE X
20. Rowe, S
$324,200
RUC
CAR X
21. Daniher, J
$272,900
ESS X
22. Hogan, J
$217,300
MEL X
29. Lennon, B
$162,300
RIC X
30. Garlett, D
$117,300
MID
HAW

    ShinbonerSpirit · 14/01/2014 at 10:55

    Whitecross out for much of the season. Podsiadly is past his use-by date. No to HepD in midfield. Thurlow will continue to struggle for game time at Geelong.

Dools · 13/01/2014 at 17:40

Big news community – Moribito (Freo) has just gone thru match simulation without any issues. This will free up some coin if he stays fit

    throttlefinger · 13/01/2014 at 22:04

    Big eyeball on him in NAB, Dools.

      Dools · 13/01/2014 at 23:20

      Well hello me ol’ China – Ya, My War Chest just increased by 40K (Just hope he keeps going Energizer bunny style)

Patrick · 13/01/2014 at 20:21

Defenders:
Mitchell, Sam
Bartel, Jimmy (MID)
McVeigh, Jarrad
Cutler, Tom
Suckling, Matt
Langford, Will
(Sharenberg, Matthew, Kolodjashnij, Kade)

Midfielders:
Pendlebury, Scott
Johnson, Steve
Ablett, Gary
Beams, Dayne
Carrazzo, Andrew
Ellis, Xavier
Knight, Riley
Blease, Sam
(McDonald, Luke, Garlett, Dayle)

Ruck:
Sandilands, Aaron
Grundy, Brodie
(Longer, Billy, Currie, Daniel)

Forwards:
Dangerfield, Patrick (MID)
Wingard, Chad (MID)
Franklin, Lance
Gunston, Jack
Hogan, Jesse
Curran, Tom (DEF)
(Reynolds, Luke (MID), Kersten, Shane)

Your thoughts guys??

    Nuggety · 13/01/2014 at 22:40

    Nice team mate straying from the pack a bit I like it!

Luttski · 13/01/2014 at 20:44

Backmen
1. Walker, A
$572,500

2. McVeigh, J
$572,500
MID

3. Mitchell, S
$562,000
MID

4. Hanley, P
$516,200
MID

5. Kolodjashnij, K
$197,300

6. Scharenberg, M
$192,300

23. McDonald, L
$182,300
MID

24. Fuller, M
$117,300

Midfield
7. Watson, J
$601,300

8. Ziebell, J
$513,600

9. Murphy, M
$498,300

10. Beams, D
$497,200

11. Martin, J
$222,300

12. Beams, C
$183,400

13. Salem, C
$177,300

14. Michie, V
$172,600

25. Dunstan, L
$132,300

26. O'Rourke, J
$123,900

Rucks
15. Kreuzer, M
$527,900

16. Grundy, B
$363,300

27. Brown, B
$117,300
FWD

28. Nankervis, T
$117,300

Forwards
17. Dangerfield, P
$609,000
MID

18. Martin, D
$549,200
MID

19. Franklin, L
$487,700

20. Rioli, C
$476,700

21. Hogan, J
$217,300

22. Billings, J
$207,300
MID

29. Taylor, L
$117,300
MID

30. Garlett, D
$117,300
MID

SC Hardnut · 13/01/2014 at 22:38

I' ve gone a different strategy to most:
DEF: Bartel, Mitchell, Swallow, Suckling, Hanley, McDonald, kolodjashnij, Fuller
MID: Murphy, D.Beams, McVeigh, Shuey, D. Thomas, C.Beams, Morabito, O'Rourke, Dunstan
RUC: Grundy, Sandilands, Lobby, Nankervis
FWD: Dangerfield, Martin, Wingard, Parker, Zorko, Rohan, L. Taylor, D. Garlett

Bank: $55,000

    Dools · 13/01/2014 at 23:09

    Awesome SCH I dig this BIG Time mate

    ShinbonerSpirit · 14/01/2014 at 10:51

    Great team! Only issue is perhaps no uber-premium midfielder (Beams aside). But the team is solid all over the ground.

@RyanRhino14 · 13/01/2014 at 22:44

Def: J.McVeigh, P.Hanley, R.Henderson, M.Suckling, K.Kolojashnij, M.Scharenberg (M.Fuller, D.Gardiner)
Mid: S.Pendlebury, L.Montagna, T.Rockliff, C.Masten, D.Beams, S.Savage, J.Martin, D.Tyson (L.Dunstan, M.Honeychurch)
Ruc: N.Naitanui, A.Sandilands (T.Derickx, T.Nankervis)
Fwd: P.Dangerfield, M.Walters, L.Parker, J.Caddy, J.Billings, L.Taylor (S.Kersten, D.Garlett)
$51,500 left
I think i'm set until the nab cup or most likely changed it to something else

    ShinbonerSpirit · 14/01/2014 at 10:44

    Montagna a no-go for SJ/Swan/Rocky money IMO. Especially with Dal Santo gone, he's copping the brunt of opposition attention. Like the Walters/Parker picks.

NT James the Pom · 13/01/2014 at 22:51

Here goes my second year of SC, this is a working side, still a bit more studying to be done though, my by rounds analysis =10.10.10,
lot depends on rookies playing from round 1 too, have $133k left, like to put Zorko in there, had a modest year last, to say the least, I recon will improve this year as he can smash the SC points, let us know your points of view?

Defenders
McVeigh, Jarrad (MID) $572500 (SYD)
Mitchell, Sam (MID) $562000 (HAW)
Hanley, Pearce (MID) $516200 (BRL)
Kolodjashnij, Kade $197300 (GCS)
Scharenberg, Matthew $192300 (COL)
Laidler, Jeremy $161800 (SYD)
Tippett, Joel $123900 (NTH)
Fuller, Matthew $117300 (WBD)

Mids
Watson, Jobe $601300 (ESS)
Steven, Jack $593100 (STK)
Cotchin, Trent $572000 (RIC)
Hodge, Luke (DEF) $521600 (HAW)
Murphy, Marc $498300 (CAR)
Beams, Dayne $497200 (COL)
Martin, Jack $222300 (GCS)
Polec, Jared $172600 (PTA)
Garlett, Dayle (FWD) $117300 (HAW)
Honeychurch, Mitch (FWD) $117300 (WBD)

Rucks
Lobbe, Matthew $464400 (PTA)
Sandilands, Aaron $310700 (FRE)
Lobb, Rory $117300 (GWS)
Nankervis, Toby $117300 (SYD)

Forwards
Dangerfield, Patrick (MID) $609000 (ADE)
Roughead, Jarryd $531300 (HAW)
Franklin, Lance $487700 (SYD)
Hogan, Jesse $217300 (MEL)
Boyd, Tom $217300 (GWS)
Bock, Nathan $196900 (GCS)
Kersten, Shane $123900 (GEE)
Taylor, Lewis (MID) $117300 (BRL)

Go the AFL

    ShinbonerSpirit · 14/01/2014 at 10:39

    Am I the only one who is wary of Zorko? A lot of people are jumping on him, and I'm not quite sure why. Stick clear of Tom Boyd. He's competing with Cameron (who won't be displaced any time soon) and Patton who has a couple of years under his belt now. There's no way they're playing three talls. It didn't really work for North, and it won't work for GWS. The usual injury question marks about Sandi, but I'm sure you're aware of that already. Jack Steven will drop in price slightly – he's priced at 110. I know you're after Hodge's DPP link but I don't think it's worth it for 521k. See what I wrote below re: Dayne Garlett. Scharenberg game time queries, but overall it's a solid pre-NAB squad!

    jockreynolds · 14/01/2014 at 21:25

    Like it mate and great to see you ready for another crack at it! I'd leave Jack Steven alone, reckon you missed the train on him last year and he's at overs at nearly 600K

      NT James the Pom · 15/01/2014 at 23:29

      Thanks Jock and team, heads up for the rookie cheat sheet, had a great first season, had a week 1,week 2 and week 3 twice, nearly to the grand final, top advice and pod casts, with smart information, didn't know what a gun was when I first started!!
      Anyway Changed my set up slightly to

      DEF
      McVeigh, Jarrad (MID)
      Hanley, Pearce (MID)
      Lumumba, Heritier (MID)
      Grimes, Jack (MID)
      Suckling, Matt
      McDonald, Luke (MID)
      Fuller, Matthew
      Cutler, Tom

      MID
      Selwood, Joel
      Cotchin, Trent
      Mitchell, Sam (DEF)
      Murphy, Marc
      Beams, Dayne
      Swallow, David (DEF)
      Polec, Jared
      Dunstan, Luke
      Langdon, Tom (DEF)
      Honeychurch, Mitch (FWD)

      RUCKS
      Lobbe, Matthew
      Sandilands, Aaron
      Lobb, Rory
      Nankervis, Toby

      FORWARDS
      Dangerfield, Patrick (MID)
      Roughead, Jarryd
      Franklin, Lance
      Walker, Taylor
      Hogan, Jesse
      Kersten, Shane
      Taylor, Lewis (MID)
      Garlett, Dayle (MID)

      A lot depends on who plays in the NAB games there also could be some changes, some off the players I had earlier may or may not start, if some off these other players play, then I should get some good cash rewards to reward myself with better gunssssss

      Cheers

@maxwills13 · 13/01/2014 at 23:28

Def: McVeigh, Mitchell, Hanley, Suckling, Darley, McDonald (Laidler, Fuller)
Mid: Pendlebury, Selwood, JP. Kennedy, Beams, Shuey, J.Martin, Tyson, Dunstan (Morabito, Perris)
Ruc: Mumford, Sandilands (Longer, King)
Fwd: Dangerfield, Martin, Hawkins, T.Walker, Lamb, Kersten (D.Garlett, L.Taylor)
$10,100

Toss Up between Michie and Tyson… If I went with Michie, Nankervis would replace King in the ruck.
Frustrating when you miss out on what you'd like to have by $4,000!
Not overly sure on this team though, I like it for pre nab cup though

    Hugh G · 14/01/2014 at 00:21

    Walker wont be ready rnd 1 mate.

      @maxwills13 · 14/01/2014 at 00:47

      From what I've heard he will be, the crows think he will have had 1/2 weeks of match sim before the opener

      @maxwills13 · 14/01/2014 at 00:48

      But cheers I'll look into it

        Hugh G · 14/01/2014 at 10:16

        Yeah look into it bud. The other day he said he was gonna come through the SANFL, hope im wrong though..

    ShinbonerSpirit · 14/01/2014 at 10:35

    http://www.afc.com.au/news/2014-01-04/step-by-ste

Dools · 13/01/2014 at 23:57

G’day Max13
You have just made my day..wHY ‘ your team is fantastic It’s like a rescipe a dash of Premium here a dose of Rookie there and I’m being serious I Rate the Fwd line mate

@maxwills13 · 14/01/2014 at 00:05

I'll tell you dools, you made my day! Cheers mate!

    @maxwills13 · 14/01/2014 at 00:10

    I'm sorta hoping I could get: first 4 defenders, first 5 maybe 6 mids, the 2 rucks and first 4 forwards to all squeeze out premium output early and first 2 on every line and mummy in the ruck to get me uber premium output at least… But one can only dream!

      SCMania · 14/01/2014 at 08:47

      You really thought about that podcast! Great team!

Matt · 14/01/2014 at 07:42

Here we go with Version 2.

DEF
Bartel, Mitchell, McVeigh, Swallow, McDonald, Laidler (Fuller, Richards)

MID
Pendlebury, Griffen, J Watson, Beams, D. Thomas, J. Martin, Tyson, Polec (Garlett, Prudden)

RUC
NicNat, Lobbe, (Apeness, Mitchell)

FWD
Dangerfield, Wingard, L. Parker, Higgins, Bock, Rohan (Honeychurch, Towers)

This leaves me 37k over budget, but not too worried seeing there will be changes to rookies and in other areas to come. Not 100% sold on NicNat, but dont really want to pay 600k+ for a ruckman if i can help it, or Dave Swallow, but i'll watch him.

    ShinbonerSpirit · 14/01/2014 at 10:32

    Higgins is repeat burnman. Could be an inspired choice, but I still have scars. Like the Luke Parker pick, I've got him in my team too. See what I said below to Raj with Dayne Garlett. I'd start Fuller ahead of Laider to be honest. I've been hearing he's the next Brett Goodes – mature-age rookies are great for SC. The usual concerns about Bock. As long as he's fit and named for Round 1. Ruck is strong. How about Kade Simpson over Bartel? Will save you a fair amount of coin and the two will score similarly this season.

SCMania · 14/01/2014 at 09:23

Thoughts on Jed Lamb?

    Rhino · 14/01/2014 at 09:57

    Hi SCMania, I really rate him , he was starting to cement his spot at sydney, he will be a permanted midfielder at gws, could be a genius choice

      SCMania · 14/01/2014 at 10:02

      Thanks Rhino, I want a strong ruck and I want Zorko, I can't afford Lamb at the moment. What do Zhou think is the better choice, Getting Zorko to fit in or trying to fit Lamb in there?

      ShinbonerSpirit · 14/01/2014 at 10:28

      There's always Jon O'Rourke waiting to step up after an injury-plagued 2013. Spots in that midfield will be hard to come by.

chandanrajdb · 14/01/2014 at 10:10

Hello Community,

V2 of my team…….thoughts would be much appreciated……..

DEF:
S Mitchell, P Hanley, W Schofield, M Suckling, K K, L McDonald, (T Cutler, M Fuller)

MID:
G Ablett, S Pendlebury, T Cotchin, M Murphy, D Beams, D Thomas, J Martin, A Morabito, (V Michie, X Eliis)

RUC:
A Sandilands, H McIntosh, (M Apeness, T Nankervis)

FWD:
P Dangerfield, D Martin, C Wingard, C Dixon, J Hogan, L Taylor, (M Honeychurch, D Garlett)

Any feedback / thoughts / comments would be really appreciated…….

Cheers,
Raj…..

    ShinbonerSpirit · 14/01/2014 at 10:27

    Hey there Raj.

    Sandilands and McIntosh? The two most injury-prone ruckmen in the league? Well… can't say I didn't warn ya! Forward line looks strong, just concerns for Garlett in my opinion. From what Clarkson has said upon signing the boy, he's going to take the cautious route with Garlett in light of his known behavioral issues. Might not get significant game time until some time into the season. Defence is solid. Same with midfield.

      chandanrajdb · 14/01/2014 at 10:50

      Hey SS….

      Thanks for your comment above mate…..

      I am taking a punt in the RUC position by having two injury prone players……but in saying that, both of them are Proven Premos……of-course they should be fit and firing……have a cover if one them breaks down by swinging Dixon into the RUCK through M Apeness……will have a very close look at both of them during the NAB challenge…..if they pull out unscathed…..then i will be happy having both of them in my team for R1……too risky I know…..fortune favors the brave mate……

      DEF: I am still tossing up between W Schofield and C Guthrie…..not totally sold on W Schofield…..what do you think…..

      and regarding Garlett…..will see how he is going during the NAB cup…..and if there is any other Rookie pops up in that price range during the NAB cup…….

      Thanks again for your comment mate…..much appreciated……

      Cheers,
      Raj……

        ShinbonerSpirit · 14/01/2014 at 11:03

        I prefer Schofield. However, 40k north of that and you have yourself Lachie Hansen who will continue the rebounding Brian Lake role in the the North defence this season. Another 30k north of that and you have Broadbent who I feel is in for a big season.

    throttlefinger · 14/01/2014 at 11:17

    Strong mids and fwd line. Like the Schofield-Suckling duo. Be prepared for KK not starting (Laidler has been considered for R1 for Swans).

    Like Shinboner said, you've kinda have gone all in with the mids/fwd at the expense of the rucks. Would recommend replacing one of them with someone more reliable. Even Grundy would be a steadier choice. You have Dixon as a backup ruck but can't see Apeness, Honeychurch and Garlett getting any time before R10.

    Nice V2, Raj!

      chandanrajdb · 14/01/2014 at 11:30

      Hey TF….

      Thanks for your comment mate…..

      From all the news coming from cattery and dockers they both are doing really well in their pre-season till date…..and no signs of any injury setback or anything like that……I am not going to change my RUCKS till i watch NAB cup and see any sort of issues with either of them then I will think of altering the RUCKS…..till then i will probably hold on to these two…..

      Regarding the FWD rookie player…..who do you think will get a go from RD1…..

      and regarding KK from GCS why would you think that he will not be starting in RD1……any source…..almost all of the teams published in here have got him in their sides…….

      Regarding Laidler……do you really think he will make the cut into the Swans team…..???…..

      Thanks again for your comment above mate…….much appreciated……

      Cheers,
      Raj…..

        throttlefinger · 14/01/2014 at 11:40

        Think your first bit sums it up…not to move until you see NAB and R1 selections. I've heard great things about KK but, and I apologize if I can't think off top of head where I read it, but it was saying he's not a shoe in for R1. Looking good but still a rook.

        I like Lennon for Fwd R1. Deadeye shooter. News has been that he's been doing well at Punt Rd. Another I like is Nahas. Good goal sneak. Think with good NAB he might make round 1. I have Taylor and Garlett as my reserves, so I think you've got it covered.

        Read that Laidler could make it in the 22. For the price, worth keeping on your list.

ShinbonerSpirit · 14/01/2014 at 10:49

Feedback much appreciated! Team v2.0:

DEF: McVeigh, Enright, Broadbent, Seedsman, Suckling, McDonald (Cutler, Fuller)
MID: Watson, Scooter, D Beams, Armitage, D Thomas, L Anthony, C Beams, Michie (O'Rourke, Aish)
RUC: Lobbe, Grundy (Currie, Nankervis)
FWD: Dangerfield, Roughead, Parker, Hawkins, Clark, Fasolo (Bock, Kersten)

    throttlefinger · 14/01/2014 at 11:33

    What I like best about this Team Shinboner is that you've made me look up stats about some of the players. Nice PODs, my friend. Broadbent and Seedsman are good risks, given their age and experience. Enright I like but I'd shell out the extra $1K to get his buddy Taylor. Avg 15 goals the last two years, which is good for a Def. Plus Corey getting up there in age.

    Balls out on the mids! Passing by Gazza, Pendles AND Jelwood?!? Plum time, Shinny. Like the Armitage pick but feel you're leaving yourself a bit exposed. Need another proven gun. Like Boak or Fyfe. Maybe since you're going against the grain, JPK, Boyd or O'Keefe. Bennell or Treloar? Seems that the mids are built with a little too much hope.

    Rucks, I like this structure. Think this has a tinge of risk but the value is there and the upside could earn you some nice cheese.

    And the PODelights continue in the FWD. Dools let me have it for suggesting Tomahawk. He may be the sleeper. I'm going to watch him closely during preseason. Since they can't fix his back, I wonder if he can recover enough to touch the hem of his 2012 form. If so, he be in. Like Parker and Roughy call too. Fasolo won't start. They are bringing him back slow and the Pies forward line has enough hands up as it is. May have to switch with Bock, who may start R1. Consider Lennon or Nahas (goal sneak could make it in for R1).

      ShinbonerSpirit · 14/01/2014 at 14:42

      Appreciate it mate!

      Harry Taylor is a frustrating figure – he will smash it for a 110 before scoring 74. I can't put my weak heart through that kind of trauma! What I do like is Enright's reliability. I wrote him off last year due to age, and that didn't turn out well for me. Instead, I ended up with Paul Duffield. If Enright can average a steady 90-95 this season, I'm more than happy.

      Yeah the midfield is looking a little weak – I'll work on bringing Gazza in. Going nowhere near The Man With No Calves (Boyd)!

      Thanks for the Fasolo call, hadn't thought of that. Cheers!

        throttlefinger · 14/01/2014 at 21:05

        Great point about Taylor and Enright. Definitely go with your gut on that one. Again over strong squad.

1st Selection Drama · 14/01/2014 at 11:16

Def: S Mitchell, P Hanley, B Stratton, J Watts, K Kolodjashnij, M Scharenberg, (L McDonald, M Fuller(
Mid: S Pendlebury, M Barlow, N Fyfe, M Murphy, D Beams, S Wellingham, D Thomas, J Martin, (A Morabito, J O'Rourke)
Ruck: A Sandilands, H McIntosh (R Lobb, T Nankervis)
Fwd: P Dangerfield, D Martin, C WIngard, J Hogan, B Lennon, D Garlett, (J Kennedy-Harris, L Taylor)
$113,600 in the kitty

    1st Selection Drama · 14/01/2014 at 15:02

    Stratton should be Suckling – $156,400 in the kitty

Ally · 14/01/2014 at 11:42

Hey guys , just wondering what u think of my team , any suggestions will be appreciated 🙂

Defenders
Jarrad McVeigh [SYD] [MID]
$572,500
Pearce Hanley [BRL] [MID]
$516,200
Grant Birchall [HAW]
$496,600
Kade Kolodjashnij [GCS]
$197,300
Luke McDonald [NTH] [MID]
$182,300
Tom Cutler [BRL]
$117,300
Tom Langdon [COL] [MID]
$117,300
Matthew Fuller [WBD]
$117,300

Midfielders
Gary Ablett [GCS]
$695,000
Scott Pendlebury [COL]
$683,100
Joel Selwood [GEE]
$638,700
Sam Mitchell [HAW] [DEF]
$562,000
Dayne Beams [COL]
$497,200
Jack Martin [GCS]
$222,300
James Aish [BRL]
$187,300
Anthony Morabito [FRE]
$123,900
Jonathan O'Rourke [GWS]
$123,900
Lewis Taylor [BRL] [FWD]
$117,300

Rucks
Shane Mumford [GWS]
$496,000
Aaron Sandilands [FRE]
$310,700
Michael Apeness [FRE] [FWD]
$137,300
Daniel Currie [NTH]
$123,900

Forwards
Patrick Dangerfield [ADE] [MID]
$609,000
Dustin Martin [RIC] [MID]
$549,200
Chad Wingard [PTA] [MID]
$531,800
Jarryd Roughead [HAW]
$531,300
Gary Rohan [SYD]
$176,200
Shane Kersten [GEE]
$123,900
Liam McBean [RIC]
$123,900
Dayle Garlett [HAW] [MID]
$117,300

Will · 14/01/2014 at 12:20

Im having a few problems with my rucks, whether to go with..

Premium (NicNat, Kreuzer, McEvoy) Mid Pricer (Grundy, Sandi) then 2 rookies. If one of the two starting ruck men go down then there is a big chance you will be one down for the round. or..

3 Mid Pricers in Sandi, Grundy, Hickey and 1 rookie. This ensures there will almost always be a back up.

However, i think a premium ruck men is ultra important because they will get you the scores, where as your Grundys and Hickeys will have there down matches and won't be punching out the big scores, they will simply be getting games, Which is also important in its own right.

So.. i fiddled around and my rucks are;

McEvoy
Sandilands
Apreness (FWD)
Curry

and i have put Dixon in the forward line which now is the security i think i need..
Thoughts and feedback, any other ideas would be great..

    Cameron · 14/01/2014 at 13:07

    Didnt think dixon would be playing until 5 rounds in possibly, still under recovery.
    McEvoy mightnt score as well, if he and Hale switch around, and then with Roughead too

    I'm leaning towards Bellchambers in the forward line as cover

      will · 14/01/2014 at 17:15

      ahh thanks fore that! will continue to fiddle!

SCMania · 14/01/2014 at 12:26

Here is my fresh new team!

DEF: S. Mitchell J. Bartel J. McVeigh M. Suckling K. Koladjashnij L. McDonald ( J. Laidler M. Fuller )

MID: S. Pendlebury J. Selwood T. Cotchin D. Beams J. Martin D. Tyson J. Aish L. Dunstan ( L. Taylor D. Garlett )

RUC: I. Maric M. Lobbe ( M. Apeness D. Currie )

FWD: P. Dangerfield D. Zorko D. Martin J. Lamb J. Hogan N. Bock ( G. Rohan S. Kersten )

125k left

I really like the team but I really want to fit other players in.

First of all I want Lewis Taylor on my bench in the FWD, Rohan on the field. I can't do it yet though because I already have Lamb and Zorko who I want in there. If I get him in there I could get O' Rourke or Morabito, I also wouldn't mind Lennon, it's not a big problem without him though. In the midfield I don't have Murphy, Watson, Shuey and Ablett who I would mind in there if need be. I'm happy enough with the backline but I'm not too sure about Laidler? Also who is a better option out of Apeness and Rory Lobb?

Any other advice or feedback appreciated! Thanks.

    SCMania · 14/01/2014 at 18:36

    Just brought Ablett in for Cotchin, thanks!

    throttlefinger · 14/01/2014 at 21:30

    Hey SCMania. I like Apeness. Sandis penchant for not playing a full season and who know if Clarke's dancing injury will linger. Plus a forward swing is nice to have. And not sure about Laidler as well. Thought Towers looked good in NAB last season but never made it into the forward line. So may be tough for Laidler to break in. I like Cutler and Gardiner but doubt those two will make it in the Lions lineup in R1. But have read great things about Cutler.

    Think you've gone top heavy on your DEFs at the expense of your Mids. Lot of rooks in your starting mids. Would think about downgrading Bartel to Birchall or Enright/Taylor so you can add a Murph or Shuey. Maybe a Treloar. Or if you don't want to touch your DEFs, get Gaff if you want to spend less money. Just don't know starting Martin as your M5.

    Rucks is a good mix. Strong POD. And with Hampson giving aid, Maric could have a big year.

    FWD line is adventurous for sure. Like the Lamb pick. Want to see how he and Bock do in preseason before committing. I'm a big Lennon guy. Think he'll get a go as Tiges need help with goal scoring.

      bloke · 14/01/2014 at 22:34

      I disagree on Apeness. I think if he came into the team he'd play forward. Dockers would play Hannath over Apeness in the ruck. Although he could get a look in later in the season but will only play a couple of games I'd of thought

Robbie · 14/01/2014 at 12:44

hey boys just wondering is Nathan Bock worth a look or is anyone around that price range better?

    throttlefinger · 14/01/2014 at 21:32

    Hey Robbie. I think Bock joins a big heap of players who NAB play will decide if they make it in. Potential is there for sure. Form and fitness will dictate if he's a solid F5-6 choice.

Derek · 14/01/2014 at 14:23

Defenders

Mitchell, S
Suckling, M
McVeigh, J
Kolodjashnij, K
Buntine, M
McDonald, L
Cutler, T
Fuller, M

Midfield

Ablett, G
Pendlebury, S
Selwood, J
Cotchin, T
Murphy, M
Beams, D
Thomas, D
Martin, J
Langdon, T
Garlett, D

Rucks
McIntosh, H
Sandilands, A
Currie, D
Smith, A

Forwards

Dangerfield, P
Franklin, L
Rioli, C
Lamb, J
Bock, N
Rohan, G
Honeychurch, M
Taylor, L

$1300 in bank

    throttlefinger · 14/01/2014 at 21:38

    Solid team, Derek. Butine is a nice pick if he makes R1 selections. Very strong Mids, but created at the expense of your rucks. That's a lot of risk on two players who haven't done a full 22 in a long time. May want to consider downgrading one of your mids so you can upgrade one of the rucks to Lobbe. Or even Grundy. FWDs is a good mix, although I've gotten burned by Rioli. He's someone I'd bring in if he's showing great form after R1-5. Bock and Rohan I'd keep an eye on during NAB to see if they are worth a punt. Like Taylor. Think he'll get some time sooner rather than later.

      Derek · 15/01/2014 at 14:47

      I'm a Hawks fan so I get blinded by Rioli's ability sometimes but cant see how it doesn't convert to SC points.
      Buntine is a very good player and had some awful luck last year. I was thinking GWS defence will see plenty of the ball again this year.
      Mcintosh, Sadi, Bock and Rohan are just so cheap for their ability, I couldn't not put them in my first draft team

    Farnzy · 15/01/2014 at 15:04

    Smashing midfield but unfortunately in doing this it has weakened the rest of your side. Drop one of Gaz or Pendles and stengthen your Def and Rucks.

Andrew · 14/01/2014 at 16:25

Defenders
1. McVeigh, J 2. Toovey, A 3. Shaw, R

4. Weller, M 5. Grimes, D 6. McDonald
, L
23. Laidler, J 24. Jones, Z

Mid

7. Gaff, A 8. Thomas, D 9. Savage, S

10. Martian, J 11. Aish, J 12. Beams, C

13. Sheed, D 14. Ellis, X

25. Garlett, D 26. Polec, J

Rucks
15. Grundy, B 16. Hickey, T

27. Longer, B 28. Brown, B

forwards
17. Betts, E 18. Pavlich, M 19. Daniher, J

20. Smedts, B 21. Hogan, J 22. Rohan, G

29. Taylor, L 30. Honeychurch, M

As you can see i have a lot of cash cows in my team, usually have about 2 million left in the bank. so this way through the season as my players go up in price i can trade them into ablett, sawn, watson, ect, ect, and if i average $80,000 to $100,00 increase ill make about 2 mill of them. bold strategy, lose some games early on in the season but once you get to round 10 to 12 you barely drop a game, has got me to 4 grand finals in the last 2 years. the buy rounds have been very beneficial for me because i can make 3 trades each round. so if for example crouch, ross and beams go up by 100 to 150 thousand and ablett drops in price i save myself 200,000 on him. also if i struggle to field a full side I’m going to be making trades in the by rounds anyway so it doesn’t affect me, and i don’t have to worry about good players getting injured until rounds 10 to 12 or a star having a bad season

    rolling thunder · 14/01/2014 at 21:05

    Ridiculous- seems like youre having laugh or taking the p155!!!

    If you play in public leagues you might have made grand finals- but since most public leagues are full of phantom teams for people who never log on after round 8 you may have a chance.
    You have no C and no VC- you have no real keepers. And by the time you go to trade in all these rookies they would have reached their peak price and actually begun to fall in price.

    You would need to make at least 22 trades to get in 22 keepers- the earliest you could that is by round 14.
    I think you miss the idea and strategy behind SC. You would be lucky to score 1500 points with that team. Considering the top teams had 2300+ points round 1 I really dont know what sort of grand finals you think you are going to make.
    If you play in any league with people who actually play SC and trade all year I would be surprised if you finished any higher than 17th.
    I plan to have a full strength team by round 10- and so do you- except for the first 10 rounds I ill have a team potentially scoring 2300 and yours will be lucky to have got to 2300 once in the first 8 round.
    Thats my take. And sorry if you are being serious- but it seems like you are tryna have a laugh or troll. Apologies if youre not.

      throttlefinger · 14/01/2014 at 22:19

      Agree. Other than McV, there's nothing here to give you a strong foundation to build on. If this is your first year, then I can understand this team…because this is what it looked my first year too (before I learned about Jock's site, which was, unfortunately, after Round 1). If you're squeezing tits, then haha. If not, everyone here could give you suggestions.

      andrew · 15/01/2014 at 12:37

      Hey Guys, love the responses! i can assure you i am not here to take the mickey or troll. Just to clear things up before i give my response , this is my strategy and has been developed over 3 years of playing, i am usually in 3 to 4 private leagues a year in witch 65 to 90% take it seriously, varies in leagues.

      i can see your point and have probably gone a bit over board this year with cash cows and as to why you would question my authenticity as a serious supercoach player. each year i usually have 2 to 3 premiums forward and back that i can rely on, my team usually look this way at this time of year, slowly weed out the players with less potential to score high and increase in money, as for the midfield, that will stay the same, maybe swap a few cash cows. last year my team had an increase of about 2.4m,

      i admit its a risky strategy and i haven't ever finished in the top 4, maybe top 6 twice, but at the end of the year i can brag to my mates that i won

      rollingthunder, it would be interesting to compare my strategy to yours, is your team up? how do you go about building your team?

      Thanks throttlefinger also for the feed back, is your team viewable to?

        Dools · 18/01/2014 at 01:15

        G’day Andrew,
        Very pleased with your reasoning and cash generation tactic ….However I really am intrested..IOT generate 2 . 4 M (Awsesome effort BTW) where did you start (How much in da bank) and was this figure added to the tally?
        Anyhow I liked the team after your explanation but like everything else ‘All Plans Go Pear Shaped after The 1st Shot!’…

        NutSack · 20/01/2014 at 18:16

        1Bartel, Jimmy (MID) $572,500
        2McVeigh, Jarrad (MID) $572,500
        3Mitchell, Sam (MID) $562,000
        4Laidler, Jeremy $161,800
        5Kolodjashnij, Kade $197,300
        6Langdon, Tom (MID) $117,300
        7McDonald, Luke (MID) $182,300
        8Fuller, Matthew $117,300
        MIDFIELDERS
        1Watson, Jobe $601,300
        2Cotchin, Trent $572,000
        3Sidebottom, Steele $555,300
        4Beams, Dayne $497,200
        5Thomas, Dale $341,800
        6Pendlebury, Scott $683,100
        7Ellis, Xavier $159,100
        8Polec, Jared $172,600
        9Morabito, Anthony $123,900
        10Crouch, Matt $117,300
        RUCKS
        1Sandilands, Aaron $310,700
        2Lobbe, Matthew $464,400
        3Nankervis, Toby $117,300
        4Apeness, Michael (FWD) $137,300
        FORWARDS
        1Dangerfield, Patrick (MID) $609,000
        2Martin, Dustin (MID) $549,200
        3Wingard, Chad (MID) $531,800
        4Franklin, Lance $487,700
        5Garlett, Dayle (MID) $117,300
        6Taylor, Lewis (MID) $117,300
        7Honeychurch, Mitch (MID) $117,300
        8Thurlow, Fraser (RUC) $118,400

        I want Suckling so might have to save 100K on Sidebottom and go for D Swallow, Gray, Zorko or Grimes instead.

          NutSack · 20/01/2014 at 18:23

          hey andrew here is rollings team you were asking about. Like I added at the end of the team I would prefer Suckling and a more powerful defense- and some of the rooks would need to play round 1. I agree with rolling and others though that you'd need at least 10 keepers to begin with. That way you could still have heaps of cash in the bank but will still have a competitve team. Last year defense was a nightmare and you wouldnt want to be stresing about one line on the field whilst the rest of your team needs upgrading aswell.

    Sh00ter · 15/01/2014 at 12:45

    Bold strategy mate, I admire your ambition.
    Key is to ensureat least 85% of these guys are in their respective team's best 22's/playing early to ensure you post a weekly score and they rise in value. Can be done!
    Risky though you would probably win 2/3 max games first half in a semi-competitive league but if you hold back on trades no reason why you wouldn't peak for finals (if you scrape in).
    Has some merit, I reckon you need to balance it out with a couple more premiums. Have 1-2 on all lines, one in the ruck. You need some captain cover and some reliable 110+ scores so you can win 4-5 games first half and make a sustained charge at finals.
    Good luck I would like to follow you what is your team name?

      Sh00ter · 15/01/2014 at 13:03

      What about adding Griffen and D. Beams to your midfield and Danger to your forward line to give you some more stability? You obviously have the cap room.

    Farnzy · 15/01/2014 at 13:41

    Interesting strategy…….. Not something I'd be endorsing! If winning leagues is your only objective it may be a feasible structure. I'm keen to know what your final rankings have been using this method. I couldn't imagine anyone starting with this type of structure would get within 4000 to 5000 points of the winner of the comp! Good luck regardless mate hope it works out for you.

      Andrew · 15/01/2014 at 17:57

      Once again, cheers for the reply's,

      Just for the record i checked last years states and i made 1902 in the first round with only 3 guys above 400,000 in the team, and with B, Goodes on the bench who made 113 and horlin-smith on the field who made 5, Jack Viney and Oliver Wines carried the side with 117 and 125 respectably.
      for those wondering i finished 113,928 overall, on a total of 45,286 points, 7,595 behind the winner for total points accumulated, by round 7 i first hit the 2000 mark and round 16 was my highest score with 2409, I averaged 1800 for the first 6 rounds, i also won the last 9 games of the season. my average (excluding by rounds) was 2225 for the period

      Sh00ter- your dead right, have to make sure most of the cash cows i pick will play, thats why richmond have been so reliable over the past few years, they've blooded all of there first round picks within the first couple of rounds, that's only one player though, admittedly this strategy works better when there was new teams entering the comp, e.g., GWS and Gold Coast. mainly because you could rely on them to get games.
      cheers on wanting to follow my team and its progress, adds a little extra pressure to get it right now.

      Giant Midgets is the name i run by. if anyone wished to follow my progress.

      Farnzy- you were completely right, was 7500 of the leader, for me though over the past few years it has just been about winning my leagues and beating my mates. looking for more of a challenge now though, might have to tweak my game plan a lot to get it to its fullest potential. any feedback/tips are welcome.

    Wombats · 20/01/2014 at 18:56

    Hi Andrew,
    I understand what you are attempting but I think you should re-consider all of the players you have that are priced over $300k. Eddie Betts is very patchy and just as likely to lose you half of what you make on a rookie, Pav is a bit old, well past his best and also patchy and he wont increase in value, McViegh: last year was his best year ever and way above his previous season average, if he returns to 2012/11/10/09 form he will go down in value by more than $100k by round 10.
    I'm using the opposite strategy to you, 4Premium defenders, 5 Premium Mids, 3Premium fwds, 3Previous starts returning from injury(low cost/high risk) and 15cheap rookies. $5k left.

    Out of curiosity what was your total score for the season last year?

S.JOHNSON · 14/01/2014 at 18:24

THOUGHTS ON STRUCTURE
DEF
MCVEIGH, HANLEY, HIBBERD, KK, L.MCDONALD, L THOMPSON, CUTLER, TIPPET
MIDS
COTCHIN, WATSON, BARLOW, BEAMS, MURPHY, T.MITCHELL, MARTIN, AISH, HONEYCHURCH, J.HUNT
RUCK
LOBBE, SANDI, CURRIE, APENESS
FWD
DANGER, MARTIN, WINGARD, ZORKO, HOGAN, WEARDEN, KERSTEN, SPINA

    throttlefinger · 14/01/2014 at 22:14

    Very solid structure, S.Johnson. Only thought would be in your DEF having a mid pricer like Suckling or Schofield between your elites and rook. Thompson may not get the nod. Same thought with Wearden. But if you have any coin left over, you can make those moves after seeing what everyone can do in NAB and R1 selections.

throttlefinger · 14/01/2014 at 21:49

Played around with the structure based on lots of the conversation here. Taken some chances. Like to hear which are made with good plums and which are fools plums:

DEF
McV, Birchall, Reid, B, Schofield, Suckling, L. McD (Fuller, Battersby)

MID
Pendles, K. Jack, Fyfe, Scooter Selwood, Beams, Gaff, Martin, Dunstan (Morabito, Honeychurch)

RUC
Mummy, Grundy (Apeness, A. Smith)

FWD
Danger, Buddy, Zorko, Lamb, Hogan, Lennon (Taylor, Garlett)

$41K left. Some wiggle room if needed. Wanted to bring in Treloar but thought this mid had more pop. May still move Fyfe or Jack down to Treloar to beef up FWDs. Any thoughts?

    bloke · 14/01/2014 at 22:30

    I like it. Do think if Sandi or McIntosh come up round 1 they'd offer more than Grundy. Trelor would be one hell of a POD. What do you see him averaging. I wouldn't mind a look at him. Don't like Buddy but that's just me

      throttlefinger · 14/01/2014 at 22:50

      I'm not a big Buddy fan either, Bloke. But it's more emotions driven. Think for having a below Buddy season he had a decent year. New team, new expectations, think he may come out strong. Especially at that price. He could be like Cloke last season. Wait 'til he hits big then trade him off before he sinks.

      Go back and forth about throwing Sandi in there. Same thinking as Buddy. At that price, he could come in, play 10 games and get hurt/rested, yet his value increases $150K to make easy upgrade to Will/Goldie.

      I'm leaning on throwing Treloar back in there so I can upgrade my F3 or F4. Thanks for your thoughts, Bloke.

      throttlefinger · 14/01/2014 at 23:51

      Just wondering if:
      1. Schofield and Suckling together is stronger than one of them plus a R1 rookie
      2. Better to bring in Treloar for Fyfe to free up money for Fwds
      3. Sandi for Grundy to free up money for Fwds and potential cash if Sandi goes R1-10+.
      4. Danger/Franklin/Zorko is strong enough or do the above to bring in Wingard?

      Trying to get my structure in line. Then figure out trade plan against it.

        Dools · 15/01/2014 at 00:33

        Okay I have been tardy, Motherboard and I have come to an understanding and we both agree that it’s hot and now the blame for the Podsiadly typo rests squarley with the Next G device..She insists it was just an auto correct but I’m not sold…….Anywho
        TF I rate the team posted and u have managed to convince me of the wce duo Scotter and Gaff ( I was going Wellingham ) it looks fantastic…. Glad to see a very strong Fwd Line including the dude that Branded you last year..I think he may still make it to my 22 but more on that another time. Wingard is now in the same position the Magnificent one was in Pre season…..Hmmm What happened to Dixson? I was sold on him after our chats and the Barrons article????
        good to see a great team with optimum potential… Nice.

          Throttlefinger · 15/01/2014 at 02:21

          Still high on Dixon, Dools. In consideration. Would like to have another ruck cover. Move Zorko to F4 if possible.

          Glad the keyboard and you are square. No room for that tomfoolery.

          Dools · 15/01/2014 at 02:41

          Why is everyone leaving a skeleton crew in the Ruc’s Rucs for me ATM “Hamberger, Lobbe with Grundy as R3”
          Building a narley Def around K Simpson has been hard but here it is ….K.Simpson ,Birchell (or Mitchell/McV/Bartels or even Taylor), Schofield, Swallow D., Suckling, Douherty & Mc Donald with Fuller and maybe a random
          a400 k LEFT IN THE WAR CHEST….But I will say this has been extreamly difficult…If’s But’s and Maybe’s ATM A reasonable def Not world shattering but reasonable So the keybord understands when I drink it types and the Next G device will not try and understand just send the Info LOL….Podsiadley naw you spelt it wrong See we are being nice to each other….(For Now… Da Da Damamamamama Que Shark fin and Cello’s)

            throttlefinger · 15/01/2014 at 05:24

            This is "buts and maybe" time for sure. Easy to outmaneuver yourself. Need to create a quick ref sheet to my logic. 5 bullets about each player. Top pros and cons. My reasonings is becoming as mangled as your keyboard, Dools.

            Kade was a mainstay of my first teams. Thought he was locked in like a Coopers and sausage rolls on game day. Then Jock's article about him and I thought twice. The occasional stinker mixed with never outstanding scores. Not completely toss out. But rather sink by going with a dynamic player such as Hanley than a guy who is likely to go big only in the bad way.

            Like your team. Swallow I'm not as high about. R. Henderson maybe a little more but neither a lock. Like the rest. Think Docherty shows good form in Nab he may be in there. May want one of the big 3 trio to work with Kade. Leaning more towards Mitchell and McV. Lager in the China for Schofield, Dools. Thanks.

    Max · 14/01/2014 at 23:05

    Have i missed something on Schofield?
    And i think you need an extra rookie in the midfield because it is the main position for cash generation? Great team though!

      throttlefinger · 14/01/2014 at 23:23

      My man Dools has been saying to watch Schofield. He could be this year's Hanley in terms of value. Like most things, preseason form will determine if in lineup.

      You think 4 rooks in the mid is not enough? Thinking is do a mix of solid premium/borderline elites and underpriced premiums and a couple of rooks. Since rook prices are very high, wait until see their form. Can always bring in after their 2nd go.

      Probably going to swap Treloar for Fyfe (touch schedule for Docs) so I can change Zorko for Wingard. Not sure. Thanks for your thoughts, Max.

        Rhubarb · 15/01/2014 at 17:31

        I've only just made space in the Mids to make the change from Zorko to Wingard myself. For me it helps balance the bye rounds for my team but I also think Zorko might spend a little more time forward this year and therefore reduce his scoring potential. This is pure speculation on my part (isn't that the point) but I see others like Beams, Rich and Hanley driving run together with Redden, Rockliff and Moloney and others like Mayes, Aish and Crisp getting midfield exposure as they rebuild.

        Depends on who you feel will have the better year, Treloar or Zorko but could another option be to have Zorko and Windgard instead of Zorko and Fyfe?

          throttlefinger · 15/01/2014 at 21:24

          Great point about Zorko moving forward, Rhubarb. Zorko I got burned on last year. But looking at this past years, he just had a bad year. Too good a player to repeat, in my opinion. Considering Dixon instead of Wingard. Save the loot and have another ruck as a backup in case Sandi poops out.

          I'm feeling Treloar will build off last year and take it up a notch. Don't feel others will have him as well.

      Dools · 15/01/2014 at 02:52

      G’day Max
      I think at this stage Schofield is on mate
      Hanley is done and dusted (everyone want’s him now) So Keyboard Next G and I are firm in the pants for him ATM.

      Max · 15/01/2014 at 13:45

      Throttlefinger, I see what your getting at I've even tried the 4 rookies in there as well! I just think that the rookies available in the midfield are far greater picks than the ones in fwd/def, but that's me…

      I can see how you love his run dools but the fact is we are looking for gaff, Shuey, Selwood, nic nat, Priddis, wellingham, cox, hurn, darling and Jjk to score premium… No more than generally 5/6 players at most per team do that. And schofield is more of a defensive player IMO… So I'm a little juniors about picking him…

@GeeBS65 · 14/01/2014 at 23:49

Hi community, comments on my team balance and current structure please. Looking forward to your guidance

Def: S.Mitchell P.Hanley J.Grimes M.Suckling L.McDonald J.Laidler (K.Kolodjashnij M.Fuller)
Mid: S.Pendlebury S.Selwood J.Watson D.Beams M.Murphy D.Thomas D.Tyson J.Martin (V.Michie, L.Dunstan)
Ruc: M.Lobbe S.Mumford (M.Apeness T.Nankervis)
Fwd: P.Dangerfield D.Martin C.Wingard N.Bock D.Garlett M.Honeychurch (L.McBean L.Taylor)

    Dools · 15/01/2014 at 03:13

    Hey mate,
    2 leaps on Rookies one in Def and one in Fwds
    Mhhmmm Mummy Keeps on bobbing his head up…I know I am missing it but Nah seriously????
    Garlett is a very long bow (a.) to break into side & (b.) replace a position tha A. Clarkson has been looking to plug for 14 months !Garlett is not his replacement…. Honeychurch as your F 6 Wow big, big call with your cover for both F5 and 6 even less likely to play Ya That’s Wow…

    Derek · 04/02/2014 at 12:45

    Garlett won't get much of a game at the Hawks. If he does it will be green vests. I would be looking at Rookies from the lower teams. Have a look at Marksworth from the Saints.

    I like you having MELB defenders (they will see a lot of the ball this year) but Grimes is expensive. I would even consider J Watt ahead of Grimes as he will also get Midfield time.

rhino · 15/01/2014 at 01:04

Hi guys, would love some thoughts on what team is better, thanks.

Team 1

Bartel, Jimmy (MID) $572,500Mitchell, Sam (MID) $562,000

Simpson, Kade $513,200Hansen, Lachlan $393,500

Suckling, Matt $312,200McDonald, Luke (MID) $182,300

Russell, Sam $110,400Fuller, Matthew $117,300

Pendlebury, Scott $683,100Montagna, Leigh $619,000

Selwood, Scott $559,800Beams, Dayne $497,200

Savage, Shane $341,600Martin, Jack $222,300

Beams, Claye $183,400Morabito, Anthony $123,900

Gray, Sam $102,400Hunt, Jayden (DEF) $117,300

Mumford, Shane $496,000Sandilands, Aaron $310,700

Apeness, Michael (FWD) $137,300King, Max $102,400

Riewoldt, Nick $567,100Petrie, Drew $554,300

Kennedy, Josh J. $485,200Parker, Luke (MID) $468,800

Caddy, Josh (MID) $325,300Honeychurch, Mitch (MID) $117,300

Taylor, Lewis (MID) $117,300Johnson, Blaine $102,400

Team 2

Hodge, Luke (MID) $521,600Hanley, Pearce (MID) $516,200

Hibberd, Michael $517,300Grimes, Jack (MID) $436,500

Suckling, Matt $312,200McDonald, Luke (MID) $182,300

Georgiou, Alexis $102,400Byrne, Ciaran $102,400

Ablett, Gary $695,000Montagna, Leigh $619,000

Rockliff, Tom $591,500Selwood, Scott $559,800

Beams, Dayne $497,200Thomas, Dale $341,800

Martin, Jack $222,300Ellis, Xavier $159,100

Perris, Lloyd $102,400Bates, Zac $102,400

Mumford, Shane $496,000Sandilands, Aaron $310,700

Apeness, Michael (FWD) $137,300King, Max $102,400

Wingard, Chad (MID) $531,800Kennedy, Josh J. $485,200

Parker, Luke (MID) $468,800Caddy, Josh (MID) $325,300

Nahas, Robbie $212,200Honeychurch, Mitch (MID) $117,300

Ambrose, Patrick $102,400Brown, Ben (RUC) $117,300

Would love some thoughts, some changes maybe.

Also 11,000 team 2 2,500 team 1 so not much money left.

    Dools · 15/01/2014 at 02:59

    Fully endorse team 2 matefor the Def Mids and Fwds
    But seriously nothing wrong with Team 1 either…Fully appriciate the Mids combined with the backline and the forwords So Team 1 by a bee’s dick maybe with the stucture.

      Dools · 15/01/2014 at 03:02

      Sorry Structure…Keyboard ,Next G and I agree it….”as mis-splelt”

    Farnzy · 15/01/2014 at 10:14

    Both teams look pretty solid, I agree with Dools team 1 just due to the better forwards. BTW Joey is out round 1 so you may want to replace him with a Watson or Danger type. Love the Savage pick, shouldn't get vested at the Saints and has the potential to score very well!

Dools · 15/01/2014 at 03:23

Just read a report on Tom Libretore Damnnnn He is SC Gold Now whom to cull???? I wave the stick of death, HMMM Gaff? Seriousley naw he should be safe…For now….Could be Daisy.

Daisy until you show me !!!Libbas is in.

    throttlefinger · 15/01/2014 at 05:09

    What report, Dools?!? Do tell. I've thought he was a little too high priced. What changed your mind. Damn your keyboard…make it talk!!!!

Rhino · 15/01/2014 at 08:18

Thoughts on who the better choice is

Henderson from the mighty crows or

Grimes from dees

    max von muffman · 30/01/2014 at 17:39

    henderson.

Rhino · 15/01/2014 at 08:19

Thoughts on who the better choice is

Henderson from the mighty crows or

Grimes from dees

Would appreciate some thought

    Rhino · 15/01/2014 at 08:20

    *same thoughts

      Rhino · 15/01/2014 at 08:21

      Dam dools, I’ve got your keyboarf

    throttlefinger · 15/01/2014 at 09:42

    Hey Rhino. Tough one. Looking at their 2013 numbers there are a lot of similarities. Neither is exceptional dependable (Standard Devis JG=30, RH=34) or durable (JG 15 games, RH 14 games). Can burn with a very low score (JG=13, RH=16). On the plus, both have good disposals for Defs: (JG = 18.3/g, RH=19.3/g). Biggest difference is that Grimey likes to tackle more (4.2/g v. 1.9/g) and use his hands more (8.3 v. 5.9/game). But Ricky likes to kick (13/g v 10/g) more and has gone ton more (5x v 3x) for bigger scores (160 high v. 122 high).

    So I'm not sure. Would say that Rickey is the more promising pick between the two. Not completely sure if worth $24K more.

    Farnzy · 15/01/2014 at 10:00

    Wait and see what roles they play in the NAB, if moved back to halfback I'd probably choose Grimes from the mighty Dees. 😉

    @McClungeMagnet · 28/01/2014 at 12:00

    I reckon Ricky is an absolute lock for me if he is playing the same role of the defence as last year. I looked ver footywire and the scores he produced on games where he was mentioned playing in defence are as follows. 114,83,72(first game back),101*,85*,106*,160*!! (vs geelong!),110* (tagged by de'boer!) then 82,94 when he was rested for the rest of the season.
    *Played solely is defence according to footywire.

    "Henderson should be the only forced change," said Sanderson who this evening will name a 25-man squad. "He has been battling a knee injury for a couple of weeks. He has played through it okay, but he now needs a week off." – prehaps a reason in his dropped loutput in the last two games.

    Games he played just forward are 63,53, and 55(i think).

    and a sub effected game of 16.

    Summary – looked really good off the half back which is where you would expect to see him next year. Avergaed 105.4 from the last 7 games when playing off the defence (only a couple times as a loose man) despite battling a knee injury in the last couple games.
    When he was tagged by de boar he still scored very well despite never copping attention before .
    Disadvantages include his knee surgery he had as he is slightly injury prone and that he could be sometimes used a s a forward where history has shown us he cant score as well.

1st Selection Drama · 15/01/2014 at 11:29

Def: S Mitchell, P Hanley, Suckling, J Watts, K Kolodjashnij, M Scharenberg, (L McDonald, M Fuller(
Mid: S Pendlebury, M Barlow, N Fyfe, M Murphy, D Beams, S Wellingham, D Thomas, J Martin, (A Morabito, J O'Rourke)
Ruck: A Sandilands, H McIntosh (R Lobb, T Nankervis)
Fwd: P Dangerfield, D Martin, C WIngard, J Hogan, B Lennon, D Garlett, (J Kennedy-Harris, L Taylor)
$156,400 in the kitty

Benni Jarmin · 15/01/2014 at 14:27

Hey Community,

Please have a gander at my team version 502,467.3 and let me know your thoughts. Feel i am getting close, but my eyes may be deceeving me

DEF:

H Pearce

G Birchall

R Henderson

M Suckling

K Kolodjashnij

L McDonald

T Cutler

M Fuller

MIDS

S Pendlebury

T Cotchin

S Selwood

M Murphy

D Beams

L Shuey

J Martin

C Beams

A Morabito

J O’Rourke

RUCK

Nic Nat

H McIntosh

T Nankervis

M Apeness

FWD

P Dangerfield

C Dixon

L Franklin

D Zorko

S Kersten

L Taylor

M Honeychurch

D Garlett

All replies would be appreciated

    Farnzy · 15/01/2014 at 14:56

    I'm guessing H. Pearce is P. Hanley……….At a quick glance that team looks very good. Midfield is one of the strongest I've seen at this stage! But if I was to be picky the backs potentially are v.good but IMO Hanley and Birch are prime tag targets and Hendo isn't a proven premium. Rucks may be lacking a solid R3 but nobody knows at this stage, fingers crossed Hmack plays all year and scores well. Forwards are good providing your F5 to F8 get solid game time let alone get games at all early on. Mids are awesome! I'd be inclined to maybe downgrade one of your premo's to strengthen or add depth to other areas but that's just me. Otherwise good side, well done!

Max · 15/01/2014 at 15:01

With Van Berlo out… Could Riley Knight, Cameron Ellis-Yoleman and M.Crouch come into the picture for the crows?

duck · 15/01/2014 at 15:21

DEF: McVeigh, Hanley, D Swallow, Suckling, K Kolodjashnij, M Fuller (L McDonald, Laidler)
MID: Pendlebury, Liberatore, Cotchin, Murphy, D Beams, Morabito, J Martin, C Beams (Garlett, Dunstan)
RUC: Sandilands, Grundy (Nankervis, Apeness)
FWD: Dangerfield, D Martin, Wingard, Zorko, Caddy, Taylor (Mcbean, Honeychurch)
$155,400 left over.

Thoughts on structure? I usually leave a large amount of leftover cash so it gives me some more freedom to upgrade later on, but I'm not too keen on my defence and ruck lines, so I'm not sure whether to use that 155K to turn Swallow into a Mitchell, or Sandilands into a Lobbe.

Would love any kind of feedback!

Rhubarb · 15/01/2014 at 18:01

Hi Community

Any input into my side would be appreciated.

Bye Rounds Split is 7 / 10 / 13 with the majority of my Rookie priced players (8) being off in Rnd 10 and hopefully at least 3-4 will be ripe for upgrades by Rnds 9 & 10. Very much relying upon a number of players stepping up at new clubs or returning from injury – Docherty, Murphy, Beams (x2), Michie, Tyson, Franklin, Karnezis, Clark.

Defence is very thin but I'm hoping Rucks are set and forget for the year.

$14.6k left in the bank.

DEFENDERS
McVeigh, Jarrad; Hanley, Pearce; Birchall, Grant; Kolodjashnij, Kade; McDonald, Luke; Docherty, Sam;
(Langdon, Tom; Fuller, Matthew)
MIDFIELDERS
Pendlebury, Scott; Watson, Jobe; Priddis, Matt; Murphy, Marc; Beams, Dayne; Michie, Viv; Tyson, Dom; Beams, Claye; (Dunstan, Luke; Honeychurch, Mitch)
RUCKS
Minson, Will; Leuenberger, Matthew; (Apeness, Michael; Nankervis, Toby)
FORWARDS
Dangerfield, Patrick; Wingard, Chad; Franklin, Lance; Karnezis, Patrick; Clark, Mitch; Garlett, Dayle; (Taylor, Lewis; Impey, Jarman)

    TheBIGShot · 24/01/2014 at 14:58

    nice team. I love the rucks. Both can churn out bgi scores regularly.
    Dont mind the chance your taking on Docherty up back but a huge risk for me Mitch Clarke (injury return gotta be a worry for this guy) and Karnezis who was burnman in 2013 but he showed a great NAB last year.
    Impey might not get a go early in season maybe consider Thurlow, Fraser (FWD) $118,400 Ess now Bellchambers is out for 4 weeks.

      Sven · 07/02/2014 at 23:47

      Carls Barkley!

      For a first time team I do like, ur rucks r very weak! Don’t trade out danger tho!!!!!!!!!! Ever! Under any circumstances!!

      Now that we sorted that maybe downgrade dusty and Harry Taylor for the likes of pav, atley

      Leaves enough to upgrade one too a premium ruck think your fine with one ruck to be upgraded during season

      U go girly

Goonar · 15/01/2014 at 18:29

Residents of the flapping tarp,

Have been tinkering with the team, but like a few others here I did it when there might've been too much blood in my alcohol, but I digress, any advise would be of help (Help me Obi Wan Kenobi, you're our only hope)

Hibberd, Enright, Birchall, Suckling, Howard, Kolodojashij (Fuller/Cutler)

Pendlebury, Cotchin, Murphy, Beams D, Shuey, Ellis, Tyson, Dunstan (Morabito/Taylor L)

Leuenberger, Mumford (Currie/Nankervis)

Dangerfield, Franklin, Parker, Caddy, Rohan, Lennon (Garlett/Honeychurch)

    TheBIGShot · 24/01/2014 at 15:06

    I really like this team plenty of POD especially in the mids. Ellis is the richmond one not X Ellis? If so amazing ballsy move. If not I'm not into X prefer others IMHO.

    My only thought is upgrade one of the backs to an elite if you have the dough, as none of them will top the 100 much where as Mitchel and Bartel will.

1st Selection Drama · 15/01/2014 at 18:56

Can someone please provide some thoughts on my team at present:

Def: S Mitchell, P Hanley, Suckling, J Watts, K Kolodjashnij, M Scharenberg, (L McDonald, M Fuller(
Mid: S Pendlebury, M Barlow, N Fyfe, M Murphy, D Beams, S Wellingham, D Thomas, J Martin, (A Morabito, J O'Rourke)
Ruck: A Sandilands, H McIntosh (R Lobb, T Nankervis)
Fwd: P Dangerfield, D Martin, C WIngard, J Hogan, B Lennon, D Garlett, (J Kennedy-Harris, L Taylor)
$156,400 in the kitty

    ShinbonerSpirit · 16/01/2014 at 15:27

    I feel Clarkson will take the cautious route with Garlett. McIntosh and Sandi are the most injury prone ruckmen in the league, Scharenberg will struggle for game time (try Fuller on the field) and Watts… I'm not sure what to say about him anymore. Other than that, I like the team.

      @taylorwoof · 18/01/2014 at 17:32

      I agree with Shinboner there. Though in saying that, i've currently got Hmac/Sandi as my ruck combo. Hopefully they stay sound long enough to upgrade (until the bye period would be nice).

      I believe Watts has the natural ability to become a very good AFL player. But personally, i couldn't put him in my side until he plays consistent footy. I would use the extra coin you have, and upgrade him to a J.McVeigh/Bartel/Walker type PREM.

      Otherwise, i like your side. Tidy midfield. Like the Barlow selection. Wellingham is a POD (wce soft draw).

      Fwd line, i'd start L.Taylor over Gartlett. Though all rookies are speculative at the moment, until NAB series kicks off.

Max · 15/01/2014 at 23:17

Big bell chambers is out for a month… Considering he will miss a month of pre-season could ge be worked back into the side, giving Fraser Thurlow (Ruc/fwd) maybe 5/6 rounds?

    Robbie · 15/01/2014 at 23:19

    hi mate i'm seriously considering him

Robbie · 15/01/2014 at 23:37

Whats a better choice Dale Thomas and Mitch Honeychurch
or Dom Tyson and Clayne Beams and 61K??

    TheBIGShot · 24/01/2014 at 15:08

    change something else and take Claye and Dale IMHO both will be certs to get game time and will increase plenty in value.

meanieoh · 16/01/2014 at 05:00

Potential 'Wookie' side

DEF: Bartel, Fisher, Suckling, R.Shaw, K.Kolodjashnij, L.McDonald (Laidler, Fuller)
MID: Pendlebury, Murphy, D.Beams, Gaff, Carrazzo, D.Thomas, Savage, Michie (Morabito, O'Rourke)
RUC: Lobbe, Jacobs (Apeness, Nankervis)
FWD: Dixon, Franklin, Chapman, Zorko, Crameri, Mayes (Taylor, Garlett)

$134K

    Disco stu · 16/01/2014 at 09:32

    Love the idea. Some serious coin if they all come off

    matt · 16/01/2014 at 13:56

    you would need big balls to stick with fisher

    ShinbonerSpirit · 16/01/2014 at 15:29

    Savage is Hawthorn's residential vest man. Chances are he'll share vest duties with Garlett over the year.

      Rhino · 16/01/2014 at 15:48

      Savage is with saints now

        ShinbonerSpirit · 17/01/2014 at 13:42

        Jeezus! I had completely forgotten! Massive brain fart on my part.

SCMania · 16/01/2014 at 07:36

Morabito vs O'Rourke?

    ShinbonerSpirit · 16/01/2014 at 15:29

    Morabito if he's named in Round 1.

Coachinator (maybe) · 16/01/2014 at 07:50

DEFENDERS
1. McVeigh, J $572,500
2. Mitchell, S $562,000
3. Hibberd, M $517,300
4. Hanley, P $516,200
5. Kolodjashnij, K $197,300
6. McDonald, L $182,300
23. Cutler, T $117,300
24. Fuller, M $117,300
MIDFEILD
7. Ablett, G $695,000
8. Pendlebury, S $683,100
9. Selwood, J $638,700
10. Watson, J $601,300
11. Martin, J $222,300
12. Beams, C $183,400
13. Michie, V $172,600
14. Morabito, A $123,900
25. Taylor, L $117,300
26. Garlett, D $117,300
RUCKS
15. Lobbe, M $464,400
16. Longer, B $279,100
27. Apeness, M $137,300
28. Nankervis, T $117,300
FORWARDS
17. Dangerfield, P $609,000
18. Martin, D $549,200
19. Wingard, C $531,800
20. Clark, M $249,200
21. Lamb, J $244,500
22. Hogan, J $217,300
29. Markworth, D $123,900
30. Honeychurch, M $117,300
My attempt at a guns/rookies. 22k not sure on Apeness might look for cheaper R3 but given Sandis feet and other ruck issues, also 2nd big forward at freeo……..maybe. Tried to go for cheap ass bench cover. 11 Permos and Solo R1 Lobbe, only issue is I've back ennded round 10 a bit but hopefully move some on by then……
Thought welcome thanks gang =)

    throttlefinger · 16/01/2014 at 08:54

    This is a very tight structure, Coachinator. Like a lot. Apeness is a sound backup due to Sandi's history of injury and Clarke being hurt. Rooks you'll have to see which impresses, of course. Your POD is really in the rucks. Longer may be risky. I like Lobbe but may be leaving yourself dependent on him. Consider Dixon in FWD as a backup. May not need, though. Just a thought. Rawk!

      SCMania · 16/01/2014 at 09:03

      Agreed!

SCMania · 16/01/2014 at 08:16

Bock vs Rohan?

    Coachinator (maybe) · 16/01/2014 at 08:20

    Yeah having same issue. Both are 'wookies' Rohan on price maybe & Bock on scoring abilty history
    ………helpful? *shrug*

      throttlefinger · 16/01/2014 at 08:51

      That is definitely a wait and watch question. Not even 30% sure of an answer.

SCMania · 16/01/2014 at 08:55

How much will Pyke approximately average do you think? Thanks.

    Boydo · 16/01/2014 at 10:51

    Even as a Swans supporter I think he will avg 90-95.

      matt · 16/01/2014 at 13:59

      I think you are right but it is possible he could be around the 100 mark if he can still take all the contested marks he got last year.

SCMania · 16/01/2014 at 11:53

New team once again!

DEF: S. Mitchell J. Bartel J. McVeigh M. Suckling K. Koladjashnij L. McDonald ( M. Fuller J. Laidler )

MID: S. Pendlebury J. Selwood D. Beams T. Cotchin M. Murphy J. Martin D. Tyson J. Aish ( L. Dunstan D. Garlett )

RUC: M. Lobbe B. Grundy ( M. Apeness T. Nankervis )

FWD: P. Dangerfield D. Martin D. Zorko J. Lamb G. Rohan N. Bock ( S. Kersten L. Taylor )

I want to chuck in these players at some stage who just missed out: J. Hogan, B. Lennon, C. Wingard, R. Lobb, I. Maric, M. Pyke, S. Mumford, G. Ablett, J. O'Rouke, A. Morabito, X. Ellis, J. Polec, V. Michie, C. Beams and T. Cutler. Big list ay! There the one I'm tricked with at the moment, feedback is very much appreciated! Thanks.

PirateMillions · 16/01/2014 at 13:15

He is my picks so far. $176,900 still in the bank.

Defense
J bartell, J Mc Viegh, P hanley, M suckling, s doherty, Sam shaw ( j laidler, M fuller)
Mids
S pendleburry, S mitchell, M Murphy, D beams, C Sylvia, D thomas. C beams, V michie, (Luke dunstan, A morabito)
Rucks
H mcintosh, B grundy ( M Apeness, T Nankervis)
Forwards
P dangerfield, Dustin Martin, L franklin, Taylor walker, D markworth, lewis taylor, (Dayle garlett, M honey church).
Question is have i gone to hard on the roookies. Aslo i have taking a punt on few injured players coming back. And i have had a punt on Colin Sylvia moving to FREO. Is this too risky? i want nic nat in my ruc but got bunrt last year piad top dollar only to have injured for such a long period so i need to see him play first hoping the interim rucks suffice while i wait for cash cows to mature.

Would approciate some feedback. Cheers.

    SCMania · 16/01/2014 at 15:52

    Nice different team mate, not too sure about Shaw and Sylvia though?

      TheBIGShot · 24/01/2014 at 15:23

      Nothing wrong with money in the bank but too much can leave you right off the $50k pace if thats what youre after.
      Yeah Shaw has had modified preseason and hasn't come up as well as liked I heard, sad because I really rate him.
      No nic nat early for me due to anticipated slow beginning to season too, but you've really gone risky with 2 low mid pricers in ruck though plenty are going that way this year.
      I also prefer mitchell out of the mids. Look for a better option even though he is DPP option for swing. But hey that's just IMO.

Dools · 16/01/2014 at 14:47

G’day community

McBean update – Ruc Fwd – Set to return to main playing gp Re- hab complete – Could be given a go in NAB Cup.

Daisey update – Has been spotted doing Sprints and joined in with running sessions. (Ankle injury may be a thing of the past)

Ding Dong (Bellchambers)- Moon boot and no weight bearing (Ankle Injury) this has me worried as Moon Boot means significant injury

I had to get beer so I braved the 44 C temps and bought the Herald Sun.

Beer is tepid not happy Jan! 6 pack in freezer and by the time this is done I’ll crack one open and ponder more on Dixson in my Fwd Line up

    SCMania · 16/01/2014 at 15:51

    Thanks Doolsy!

    meanieoh · 16/01/2014 at 18:58

    Thanks Dools

    TheBIGShot · 24/01/2014 at 15:24

    great work Dools thanks heaps!!!!

      Dools · 24/01/2014 at 18:36

      Hey Big shot welcome back dude.
      How did ya go last year mate? I had a shocker RUC drama’s Injuries galore but a few personal wins but on the whole fell outa top 3%
      Good to see you back. More sage advice always welcome

SCMania · 16/01/2014 at 15:40

How much do you think B. Grundy will approximately average? Thanks.

    Rhino · 16/01/2014 at 23:22

    Last year averaged just under 75. I reckon at best 80. He could face the second year blues as well and average worst than last year but he may prove me wrong.

      Max · 17/01/2014 at 03:03

      I agree but I'm going to say 80-85… He will dominate a few teams and score 120s but 50/60s will come asweell

    TheBIGShot · 24/01/2014 at 15:26

    As no1 ruck man and the potential shown last year he will give a huge lift to a premium by byes or mid year. Cant seeing him being a 90+ player to make him a keeper. So well worth a pick.

NT James the Pom · 16/01/2014 at 16:01

Another G'day community, thanks for your thoughts Jock and ShinbonerSpirit, gone to Version point ???

Been reading up on the availability of the rookies playing in R1, re-assembled the team and checked the down size of $ from the guns last year who had injury,s etc, there are some great bargin's to be had and if they perform well then cash should be coming though on all fronts. The team is more or less established depending on the NAB. Take a look and give us a reply, got $240k left in the kitty

DEF
McVeigh, Jarrad (MID)
Hanley, Pearce (MID)
Lumumba, Heritier (MID)
Grimes, Jack (MID)
Suckling, Matt
McDonald, Luke (MID)
Fuller, Matthew
Cutler, Tom

MID
Watson, Jobe
Cotchin, Trent
Mitchell, Sam (DEF)
Murphy, Marc
Beams, Dayne
Thomas, Dale
Polec, Jared
Dunstan, Luke
Langdon, Tom (DEF)
Honeychurch, Mitch (FWD)

RUCKS
Naitanui, Nic
Sandilands, Aaron
Lobb, Rory
Nankervis, Toby

FORWARDS
Dangerfield, Patrick (MID)
Franklin, Lance
Zorko, Dayne (MID)
Walker, Taylor
McCarthy, Cameron
Kersten, Shane
Taylor, Lewis (MID)
Garlett, Dayle (MID)

Great team making commuinity

    SCMania · 16/01/2014 at 16:12

    Nice different team mate, love it! Great DPP swings.

    Dools · 16/01/2014 at 16:13

    Hi Mate,
    A Fit and firing Dog dog at 515k odd is a steal…Unfortunatley he is not fit or firing to get up and play AFL…yet.
    Could be a very good upgrade by round 4 or 5…replace with either Mummy/Lobbe/Luenberger. Fwd line relies way to much on maybes from F4 down but great backline JOP with Mitchell in mids Nice!

    TheBIGShot · 24/01/2014 at 15:32

    Im funny on the money in the bank idea. I cant see the value of Money or 220K in the bank when you can upgrade a fair player to an elite but thats just me. 100k max I reckon. There are those who aim only for leagues that it can make some sense.
    Otherwise my only other concern is that watson is a great player but no week to week captain. Upgrade a mid to pendles or GAJ.

Frank the Tank · 16/01/2014 at 16:13

Here's my 1st attempt, would love some feedback
DEF'S; J McVeigh, S Mitchell, R Henderson, J Grimes, K Kolodjashnij, L McDonald (T Cutler, M Fuller)
MID'S; S Pendlebury, R Griffen, K Jack, M Murphy, D Beams, D Thomas, V Michie, A Morabito (L Dunstan, D Garlett)
RUC'S; S Mumford, H McIntosh (T Nankervis, B Brown)
FWD'S; P Dangerfield, D Martin, C Wingard, J Lamb, G Rohan, B Lennon (L Taylor, M Honeychurch)

    SCMania · 16/01/2014 at 16:16

    One of the best teams I've seen so far!

ShinbonerSpirit · 16/01/2014 at 16:59

Hickey or Longer?

    SCMania · 16/01/2014 at 17:08

    Longer.

    TheBIGShot · 24/01/2014 at 15:32

    neither!
    🙂
    I really think Longer is gonna need more time but in 2 seasons I think he might be something special.

@Red_and_Blue26 · 16/01/2014 at 19:24

DEF: J.Mcveigh S.Mitchell P.Hanley M.Suckling K.Kolodjashnij J.Laidler (T.Cutler, M.Fuller)

MID: S.Pendlebury, T.Cotchin, K.Jack, N.Fyfe, D.Beams, D.Thomas, J.Martin, J.Aish (A.Morabito, D.Garlett)

RUC: A.Sandilands, B.Grundy (T.Nankervis, M.King)

FWD: P.Dangerfield, D.Martin, C.Wingard, M.Clark, J.Billings, N.Bock (S.Kersten, L.Taylor)

$56,500 to spare

    @Red_and_Blue26 · 16/01/2014 at 19:25

    I'm becoming more and more happy with this team with every change I make

Hugh G · 16/01/2014 at 22:02

Bastinac, Cunnington or Ziebell??

    Rhino · 16/01/2014 at 23:14

    Geez mate, tough question. I think one will breakout but which one? I personally like Ziebell as he has proved he get good scores and if fit for rd 1 will be considered by many

      Hugh G · 17/01/2014 at 20:40

      All capable of ave 105+ this yr..

    TheBIGShot · 24/01/2014 at 15:35

    I really think the Big Z is the one who can go a little further that the other two, especially now NDS has joined the mids at north. I think the selection of any player at the roos beside Harvey will be a POD.

@taylorwoof · 17/01/2014 at 00:46

DEF: McVeigh, Bartel, Mitchell, Hanley, Suckling, Laidler (M.Fuller & T.Cutler)

MID: Ablett, Griffen, Barlow, D.Beams, M.Murphy, J.Martin, Tyson, C.Beams (L.Dunston & Morabito)

RUCK: Sandilands, McIntosh (D.Currie & T.Nankervis)

FWD: Dangerfield, D.Martin, L.Franklin, J.Hogan, G.Rohan, L.Taylor (M.Honeychurch & D.Gartlett)

Remaining Salary: 1.7K

    Max · 17/01/2014 at 15:13

    One worry is rucks… If one of the two starters get injured you'll have to make a few trades… Spent a lot on your defenders which is interesting but it's very strong. cracking mid and fwd though!

      @taylorwoof · 18/01/2014 at 16:05

      Cheers for the feedback Max. Crossing everything Sandi & Hmac can stay injury free until the bye rounds, then i can upgrade them. Definitely risky no doubt….can't warm to many of the ruckmen. Who do you like in the rucking department?

      Over the past few days, decided to add the extra PREM in defence (J.Bartel) rather than the forward line…….thought at the moment i prefer the fwd rookies over the defender rookies. But that could easily change once we get our teeth into the NAB series.

@maxwills13 · 17/01/2014 at 03:13

J.Stringer or T.Menzel?

    TheBIGShot · 24/01/2014 at 15:36

    Gee Stringer looked good in 2013 didn't he? The doggies look like they are on the way up too. Him for mine.

jimbotraralgon · 17/01/2014 at 10:27

hey guys.

I have my main side I have been working on but I have been working on a side project that is more of a full 'midprice madness' approach. I haven't been taking it very seriously up to now but I'm getting a little interested in the trousers with it now.

What do you think? Is it worth considering as the primary team seeing as though getting the right break outs will be key. All or nothing?

(NB. Lennon's in there for you throttle mate)

Plan B/
Def: S.Mitchell P.Hanley D.Swallow M.Suckling K.Kolodjashnij L.McDonald ( J.Laidler M.Fuller )
Mid: S.Pendlebury T.Cotchin M.Murphy D.Beams B.Ellis D.Thomas J.Martin C.Beams ( A.Morabito J.O'Rourke )
Ruc: M.Lobbe B.Grundy ( B.Longer T.Nankervis )
Fwd: P.Dangerfield C.Dixon L.Franklin T.Mitchell B.Lennon S.Kersten ( D.Garlett L.Taylor )
Salary Cap Remaining: $40,900

    jimbotraralgon · 17/01/2014 at 10:27

    Just doesn't look as good as Plan A/?
    Def: J.McVeigh S.Mitchell D.Swallow M.Suckling K.Kolodjashnij L.McDonald ( T.Langdon M.Fuller )
    Mid: G.Ablett S.Pendlebury M.Murphy D.Beams D.Thomas J.Martin C.Beams J.Polec ( J.Aish J.O'Rourke )
    Ruc: N.Naitanui A.Sandilands ( B.Longer P.Mitchell )
    Fwd: P.Dangerfield D.Martin L.Franklin L.Parker J.Hogan S.Kersten ( D.Garlett L.Taylor )
    Salary Cap Remaining: $3,300

      Dools · 17/01/2014 at 17:40

      Hi Jimbo
      Just my thoughts at this stage Pre pre seasonn KK Not seen enough from him mate (TAC waas Bueatiful but Naw at this time)
      Both team A and B have very strong merits in the midsand the forwards
      Rucs are my teams delima this year
      I think team A mate even with Kirsten (I highly rate him but my concern is will he break into Geelong’s thoughts IE Tall Tall or Tall small, and small? enter Cowen/and the rest of the fast kittens) or as I suspect Jimmy Bartel
      Anywho that’s my 2 cents mate

        jimbotraralgon · 17/01/2014 at 21:07

        every team talk up their fringe players preseason but story is kersten could be the 3rd tall option…aka gunston for hawks (credit throttlefinger I think). Saves them having to push harry forward. Kersten might compete with a Christensen or the like depending on how they want to structure up.

          Dools · 17/01/2014 at 21:43

          Hi Matew love the logic ,,I can’t fault it but until futher proof ie NAB I need to be convinced…And I’m a Geelong supporter (Sorry LOL)

            jimbotraralgon · 17/01/2014 at 22:26

            Well its all hot air at this stage of the year. But isn't that what we love? In some ways I like preseason more than actual season. Don't we enjoy the what might happen? The analysis of the possible?

          Dools · 18/01/2014 at 00:34

          Hi Jimbo,
          You have gone off in to Peter’s world “The analysis of the possible? ”
          Love it mate! ..Esp after watching Engerand loose yet again in the cricket…Good on ya ‘stralia (I would watch a marbles contest with any team in the world …As long as they beat Engerland) Now how would have thought that? ‘ LOL mate

      throttlefinger · 17/01/2014 at 20:34

      This is good too. Would say is stronger but not significantly. Definitely have more POD opportunities in B. NicNat is definitely a wait and see. Reading a lot that he's not training at the level they had hoped. Probably won't get a lot of NAB time and may start slow. Maybe by time he starts regaining form, Grundy/Sandi's value will have jumped for a seamless upgrade.

      Two nice teams that I'd keep refining against, Jimbo.

        jimbotraralgon · 17/01/2014 at 21:14

        i am keeping hmac in the r2 mix as well. The successful candidate will need to put some game time in to make the final squad.

        The Dixon fwd swing is growing in my mind as backup thanks to dools and yourself for the idea. Just wish it wouldnt cost me titch or Parker to do so. Or dusty even.

    throttlefinger · 17/01/2014 at 20:27

    Ahhhh, Lennon! And nice to see you stuck to form with Kersten.

    This is intriguing team because you have some mid pricers that could really take off (Ellis, Thomas, Lobbe and Grundy especially) and a nice amount of loot to play with. Like Dools said, the risk is at ruck. I'm struggling between going all out on Minson (with Sandi at R2) or do McEvoy/Mummy and save some loot. That said, I think Lobbe/Grundy is a risk but not a great one. Mainly because the potential for big scores are there as single rucks.

    Just read Boybo's bit below about Morobito not playing R1. He'll get time so may be worth keeping in.

    Keeping two structures too. Don't throw this out, Jimbo.

      jimbotraralgon · 17/01/2014 at 21:25

      they will combine together eventually but two structures makes me think a little differently in the second side. Bit of lateral thinking you could say.

      I would love morobito but I think I'll wind up sitting aish at m9 leading into nab games just for the cash reserve.

      Logic says stay away from lobbe but I just have a feeling he could be this years minson or Maric the year before. Mark my words people.

        throttlefinger · 17/01/2014 at 21:30

        May be very well right.

    TheBIGShot · 24/01/2014 at 15:42

    really like it Jimbo!
    Ellis is on the up for sure great choice.
    I'd prefer the Longer/Grundy mix to be Jacobs! But hey it seems that's just me. 🙂

rhino · 17/01/2014 at 12:33

Hey community, just wondering who you would choose out of rockliff, jack and Barlow, thoughts would be appreciated.

    @taylorwoof · 17/01/2014 at 13:18

    Barlow. Expecting to score better than last season. Finally building up the fitness since that horror leg injury. Has improved his season average every season since then.

    Max · 17/01/2014 at 15:06

    Rockliff for me mate averaged 129 in last 9 games when he had maximum midfield time

      SCMania · 17/01/2014 at 15:24

      It would be out of Jack and Rocky, toss up but Rocky might do better with new coach.

        Dools · 17/01/2014 at 16:47

        Of the 3 Ithink they are all on Par so go for the one With a track record, in the age bracket ( 24 – 26 ) , with a consitant output and guarenteed Gut work…. Rocky at a pinch but all 3 are fantastic

    throttlefinger · 17/01/2014 at 20:21

    Jack. Swans favorable schedule and he's an SC beast.

    jimbotraralgon · 17/01/2014 at 21:55

    barlow mate.

    Sarah · 20/01/2014 at 09:00

    I've gone with all 3!

      TheBIGShot · 24/01/2014 at 15:45

      Genius Sarah!

Sarah · 17/01/2014 at 15:35

Been working on this team for a couple of weeks now… would love to get some feedback…

Def: Bartel, Mitchell, Hanley, Hurn, L McDonald, T Clurey, (Fuller, Battersby)

Mid: Pendlebury, Barlow, Rockliff, Jack, Beams, J Martin, L Dunstan, B Acres, (Morabito, Garlett)

Ruck: Grundy, Sandilands (Currie, Nankervis)

Fwd: Dangerfield, Wingard, T Mitchell, Gunston, Hogan, Lennon (L Taylor, Honeychurch)

    throttlefinger · 17/01/2014 at 20:20

    Very solid structure, Sarah. Concerns would be Hurn, who burned me a bit last year BUT given WCE favorable start, he could give you good scores off the bat. Birchall is a safer bet, IMO. MIDs look strong. Rucks you're obviously taking a little of a chance. I've consider this combo too. Not a bad thing but you're losing insurance by not having a proven 15+ game player in there. FWDs are tight. Like the Gunston call. Ended last year strong. May get more attention with Buddy out, but love the call. Clurey and Acres, do you have any insight on them? Would have backups ready if they don't get the R1 call.

      Sarah · 20/01/2014 at 07:32

      Thanks for your comments.
      Not so much insight on Clurey and Acres, it'll depend on the round 1 teams but Clurey has been on the list over a year now and should be close to a debut. As for Acres, I reckon the saints will give a few rookies a game and he was rated in the draft. All rookies are subject to change IMO.
      I had been thinking of Birchall too, but am hoping if Hurn can recapture his good form, he's underpriced for what he can produce. As for Gunston, he always seemed to play/score better when Buddy was out anyway and I liked his form in the finals. Still very disappointed he chose to leave the crows…

    Dools · 17/01/2014 at 23:27

    Hi Sarah
    Adelaide supporter?
    The only thing I ‘m not sold on is the Ruc Dept.. I like the rest of team inc Hurn but he is still not playing with the big boys (Rehab) I had him last year from the start Solid for me but methinks now maybe to old and broken alas but remembering how he played SC wise, maybe inspired…

      Sarah · 20/01/2014 at 07:28

      What makes you say Adelaide supporter?
      I am as it turns out! Just curious as to what gave it away!!
      Hurn is a 'see how he goes in the NAB comp' proposition, so I'll be watching him closely.
      Thanks for your comments.

Boydo · 17/01/2014 at 18:06

Lyons declared that Morabito won’t be playing round 1 already.

    Boydo · 17/01/2014 at 18:10

    Lyon confessed that only three Dockers – Kepler Bradley, Jon Griffin and injury ravaged young midfield hopeful Anthony Morabito, who are all in full knee reconstruction programs – are unlikely to play in the season opener. “Fom foxsports”.

      jimbotraralgon · 17/01/2014 at 21:54

      thanks for the heads up. But never has Ross the boss lied to the media…….no sir.

    throttlefinger · 17/01/2014 at 20:13

    Ugh! Better to know now than R1 selections.

@maxwills13 · 17/01/2014 at 18:47

Second go, had a look into T.Walker and saw he wouldn't line up round 1! Cheers to Hugh and ShinbonerSpirit for giving me the heads up!

So version 2

Def: McVeigh, S.Mitchell, Hanley, Suckling, Darley, L.McDonald (Laidler, Fuller)
Mid: Pendlebury, J.Selwood, Dangerfield, Beams, Shuey, J.Martin, Michie, Dunstan (Morabito, Honeychurch)
Ruc: Mumford, Sandilands (Thurlow, Nankervis)
Fwd: D.Martin, Franklin, Dixon, Hawkins, Lamb, Kersten (D.Garlett, L.Taylor)
$77,700

I have a ruck swing for sandi if he gets injured… Then if I have employed the swing and I only have 5/6 fwds playing or mid rookies have better output I can swing Honeychurch but more likely danger in the fwd line…
Does this seem alright?

    Boydo · 17/01/2014 at 19:45

    Will need to change Morabito but you have enough coin for a Polec,Beams,Ellis depending on NAB form and round 1 selection. To be honest I’m looking forward to see how Dom Tyson goes. GWS just didn’t give him enough game time. Checkout his 2012 scoring. I think everyone should get on.

      @maxwills13 · 17/01/2014 at 19:57

      Yeah I changed him to Polec… I'd rather Tyson I agree but I can't get him in unfortunately!

      Cheers

        Boydo · 17/01/2014 at 21:15

        I like your team. Some real solid picks. Darley, I’m not sold on . Do you really need swingmen (dangerfield in mids) at the start of the season with new trade system. Plenty of good mid rookies compared to fwd rookies.

          @maxwills13 · 17/01/2014 at 21:32

          Unfortunately is was all about salary… Dangerfield was Cotchin in the midfield and franklin was Danger…

Rhino · 17/01/2014 at 20:47

Can I ask for some predicted averages for longer, will he average 65? 70? 75? 80?

    @maxwills13 · 17/01/2014 at 21:04

    75-85

    jimbotraralgon · 17/01/2014 at 21:50

    Hoping for 90 but I think 80 is more likely. Big jump next year I think more than this year.

Boydo · 17/01/2014 at 23:28

Tell me, am I crazy having Broadbent at D4? Don’t have money for Hanley etc. a lot of teams have swallow but I like Broadbent better. Have Suckling at D6. Kk and fuller emg. Ok gunna get caned I’m sure but if so at least tell me who I should have instead!!

    Boydo · 17/01/2014 at 23:29

    Sorry suckling 5 McDonald. 6

      Dools · 18/01/2014 at 02:11

      Boydo, I think your happy with Broadbent.
      Now have a little look at Schofield WCE!

rhino · 18/01/2014 at 01:05

Another question for the community,

Beams from lions

Poles from power

Michie from demons

Which one you pick? As always thoughts appreciated.

    rhino · 18/01/2014 at 01:08

    *Poles from power

      Rhino · 18/01/2014 at 01:36

      Bloody auto spell, polec. From power not poles

    throttlefinger · 18/01/2014 at 04:19

    Great question. And the only answer I'd be comfortable giving is see how each does in preseason play. Think Beams has most upside. Been reading a lot of good things about Polec. Not sure about Mitchie. See how he works with the Dees midfield.

Dools · 18/01/2014 at 01:38

Hahahah Go with ….I gotta say Beams mate. However ‘Poles’ is at this point also a BIG Watch mate watch

Rhino · 18/01/2014 at 01:39

Is Lennon from tigers better or worse choice for nahas

    throttlefinger · 18/01/2014 at 03:58

    I always liked Nahas. Solid goal sneak who didn't seem to get a fair shake from Punt Rd. I would say see what he does in NAB. Think he'll make it in the Roos lineup but not off the bat. I've been beating the drum for Lennon so he would be who I'd go with.

    TheBIGShot · 24/01/2014 at 15:49

    A big no to Nahas. NO < see it's big. Doubt he will even get non vest time but I could be wrong.

Dools · 18/01/2014 at 02:07

Lennon, Rhino
Robbie has moved on and needs to show somthing whereas Lennon is prepared to show something

Rhino · 18/01/2014 at 09:21

Hey Dools, just wondering what you see in schofield, hasn’t shown much in past seasons.

    Dools · 18/01/2014 at 13:21

    Hi Rhino,
    Read a blurb about him in a West Austrailian paper B4 Christmas
    I beleive WCE plan to use him heavily in Mid section and he was compared to Pearce Hanley (My prediction last year so maybe Schofield at only 330K in the right age bracket and seasons under his belt is my Contender this year

Jason · 18/01/2014 at 12:28

Hi there community feedback would be nice.
DEF: S.Mitchell, M.Hibberd, T.Mckenzie, D.Swallow, M.Suckling, K.Kolodjashnij
BENCH: T.Cutler, M.Fuller

MID: S.Pendles, J.Watson, M.Barlow, K.Jack, D.Beams, D.Thomas, J.Martin, C.Beams
BENCH: L.Dunstan, A.Morabito

RUCKS: H.Macintosh, A.Sandlands.
BENCH: B.Brown, T.Nankervis

FWD: P.Dangerfeild, D.Martin, C.Mayen, J.Hogan, N.Bock, D.Garlett
BENCH: M.Honeychurch, L.Taylor

Happy with my team there is some weakness in my rucks but looking to upgrade them by round five just a good starting block if both stay fit early.

    TheBIGShot · 24/01/2014 at 15:53

    Jason I believe T Mc in the back has injury issues so leave him out and bring in a good rookie/wookie and upgrade someone in your fwd line, likely upgrade Hogan to a mid price for better team balance. 🙂

@rjc69 · 18/01/2014 at 12:47

Def: J.McVeigh, S.Mitchell, T.McKenzie ,P.Seedsman, M.Suckling, K.Kolodjashnij (M.Fuller, J.Hunt)

Mid: S.Pendlebury, M.Barlow, S.Selwood, M.Murphy, D.Beams, V.Michie, J.Polec, D.Sheed (L.McDonald, L.Taylor)

Ruc: S.Mumford, A.Sandilands (D.Currie, T.Nankervis)

Fwd: P.Dangerfield, N.Riewoldt, L.Franklin, M.Clark, J.Lamb, S.Kersten (M.Honeychurch, D.Garlett)

Tried to go Guns & Rookies but ended up with & prem. 8 mid & 15 rookies.

Still undecided about a few, McKenzie, Seedman & Hunt in backs Michie in mids & Clark & Lamb in fwds. Otherwise happy with team so far, Preseason will tell me. Any comments

    Jason · 18/01/2014 at 13:14

    Mitch Clarke is still not training with main group as another melbourne supporter maybe look at hogan early on
    Seedsman is very up and down with scores.
    Like mids besides polec and she'd maybe look at C.Beams as another

      @rjc69 · 19/01/2014 at 05:33

      Good thought I might swap Clark for Hogan once i see him playing NAB. could be good insurance in fwds.The likes of Polec will also wait for preseason, that could change team drastically.

Wombats · 18/01/2014 at 14:22

I notice that Suckling features in most teams being posted in show us your team. From memory players returning from Knee Reco's tend to be very quiet for the first 5 or 6 games AND, Suckling has to break into a premiership winning backline.
Jock, Higgo is the master of relevant stats and I think that the ave scores for the first 6 games after a knee job compared to ave scores pre-knee job could help prevent some costly SC mistakes. Can ya give us some insight?

    @taylorwoof · 18/01/2014 at 18:06

    Interesting question Wombat. Thought i'd have a look into it. Below are a few players i could reel off the top of my head having serious knee injuries.

    2007 2008
    Goddard100.7085.50

    20102011
    Malceski113.5082.50

    20102012
    L.Hayes 91.33108.33

    20122013
    Whitecross87.0056.16(2013 Ave included 1 x green vest)

    20112013
    Luke Ball96.1693.33

      @taylorwoof · 18/01/2014 at 18:08

      That previous post didn't post like i was viewing it. I'll go again.

      Goddard: 2007: 100.7 / 2008: 85.5

      Malceski: 2010: 113.5 / 2011: 82.5

      Lenny Hayes: 2010: 91.33 / 2012: 108.33

      Whitecross: 2012: 87.0 / 2013: 56.16 (2013 Ave Included 1 x Green Vest)

      Luke Ball: 2011: 96.16 / 2013: 93.33

        @taylorwoof · 18/01/2014 at 18:09

        * First six games of the season before & after serious knee injury.

          Wombats · 18/01/2014 at 19:26

          Thanks Wolfie that info was enough for me to make the right decision.
          After your data the question then became does Suckling have the mental strength of Lenny Hayes & Luke Ball or is he more like a Whitecross or Malceski?
          I think Hayes & Ball are absolute freaks and Suckling is not cut of the same cloth so, I'll not be considering him for my starting 22.

        throttlefinger · 18/01/2014 at 23:36

        REALLY great question Wombat. And equally revealing numbers, Taylorwoof.

        Feel he needs the same inspection during NAB as the others we aren't sure on $400K and below. You've planted a seed that if he looks decent but not going with confidence given his knee (which is common…takes time to rebound mentally from a severe injury), may wait a couple rounds to bring in. Mayb off the bat is too hasty.

          @taylorwoof · 19/01/2014 at 00:32

          Agree with you Throttle. Could be asking a bit too much for him to return back to his best straight up. Averaged 90 & 82 in 2011 & 2012. So maybe 65-70 average in the early rounds is more realistic. So with an average of 60-70, perhaps a cheaper rookie option could generate the same output. The only one thing that is in Suckling's favour, is he did his knee in NAB Week 1 2013. This giving him a full 12 months to recover.

    Jason · 18/01/2014 at 21:01

    It's Matt suckling they will make room for him so what if he avg 60 odd first 5 or 6 game we all understand he will be a huge part of the premiership defence

      @taylorwoof · 18/01/2014 at 21:09

      No worries Wombat! Thanks for bringing this to my attention. I am definitely re-evaluating if i select him or not. No doubt NAB series will play a big part in selecting him or not.
      You could be onto something….perhaps those inside mids types like Hayes & Ball, who always find the pill…find it easier to return. Compared to the others mentioned, who rely on speed/slick skills… may take long to return to their best. Great question you proposed….loved it.

      Being a Hawks fan, i have no doubt Suckling slots straight into the Hawks back six. Guerra retired after the GF, so perfect replacement.

        throttlefinger · 18/01/2014 at 23:37

        Yep. Should've read your reply before posting, Taylorwolf. Perfectly stated.

    TheBIGShot · 24/01/2014 at 16:00

    Great info from the community there. And a great question on sucklings character. In my mind he would have been on the ground for the GF last year if he was fit.
    He kicks the ball regularly, long and has great accuracy (also kicks long goals) which has led to great SC output 80+ avg career, so at th price looks like a lock for mine. If he is timid or doesn't kick as much in the NAB rethink him.

@taylorwoof · 18/01/2014 at 18:18

If you include Dayne Beams & Marc Murphy in the Premium Range (500K+), what is the structure everyone is preferring for there midfield this season?

Last season i started with 6-0-4 (Ablett, Pendles, Swan, JPK, Fyfe, Mundy, OMeara, Wines, Viney & B.Hill).

    TheBIGShot · 24/01/2014 at 16:02

    I reckon 5-1-4 for mine then. We can use less cos Danger is elite in the fwd line is a lock for every team .

    The depth in elites in the back line has meant you can go to 3/4 of them with confidence too.

Wombats · 18/01/2014 at 19:27

Getting close to a workable base

DEF: Bartell – Mitchell – Hodge – Hanley- Laidler – Fuller – Cutler – Hunt
Mid: Ablett-Pendle-Libba-Smurph-D.Beams-Thomas-Martin-C.Beams-Dunstan-Honeychurch
Ruc: HayMac-Sandi-Brown-Naismith
For:Wingard-Dixon-Robinson-Vardy-Clark-Lennon-Taylor-Garlett

    IHTC · 18/01/2014 at 20:42

    Lovin the Def and Mids, been burned by HayMac twice before so I'm staying away but I like Sandi. Fwds taking a few risks with Vardy and Clark. May be an opportunity to downgrade clark for a better Vardy?

      Wombats · 18/01/2014 at 21:08

      Yeah Clark & Vardy could be a risk but at the moment both are flying. Both have genuine goal kicking ability and will also have a run in the ruck each week whilst the #1 rucks rest up fwd. There's plenty of underpriced fwds and kamikaze kid,clark,vardy are only written in pencil.
      HayMac has burnt me before too but all reports are that he is firing on all 12 cylinders; if he doesn't get up for round 1 I'll swing dixon or vardy and grab a caddy, menzel or patton

    @taylorwoof · 18/01/2014 at 21:16

    Like the defence Wombat! Hodge is pretty much my favourite player. He's a slightly ballsy selection this year with the likes of Walker, Bartel, McVeigh & Mitchell available. Though if those guys weren't available, then i have no doubt Hodgey would be in plenty of sides. Still Hodgey as a defender #luxury

    Can't fault the midfield. Nice POD in Libba!

    Rucks, i'm going the same starting combo. Praying to the gods to give them both strength!

    Fwd Line….ballsy with no Dangerfield. But nothing wrong with Wingard & Dixon (swing man). Robinson is an interesting choice. I had a look at him the other day…..he can be quite 'up & down' though in saying that he's a nice Fwd POD. F4-6….hardest part this season i think. Reading plenty of good things about Lewis Taylor. Also would love to see Clark play a full season.

IHTC · 18/01/2014 at 19:54

Ok round 2 version

Def
Barrel, McVeigh, Mitchell, Hanley, McDonald, Cutler (Hunt, Fuller)

Mid
Selwood, Fyfe, Cotchin, Kennedy, Beams, Martin, Aish (or Polec), Dunstan (Morabito, L. Taylor)

Ruc
Grundy, Sandi (Naismith, Thurlow)

Danger, Dixon, Buddy, Parker, Rohan, Garlett (B. Brown, Honeychurch)

$110k left – was thinking Fyfe and Danger for Ablett and Dusty?

    Jason · 18/01/2014 at 21:13

    Don't leave money in the bank use what you can on prems and upgrade rookies/mid priced it's the only way jock convinced me last year to put all you money on the field lets just say he's right I finished quite high up the board. Maybe look at Pendles his lowest score last year was in the 90 compared to ablest at 61 very similar avg overall and will save you some cash to upgrade Kennedy to maybe K.Jack.

    Wombats · 18/01/2014 at 21:13

    I like your fwds I might have to cram buddy into mine. I'll wait until I see what his role is with tippett at FF, hopefufully they let him fill in for goodsey.
    I reckon ablett/dusty is better than fyfe/danger. Gaz always comes out at 110% the others can take a couple of games to get rolling.

    IHTC · 18/01/2014 at 21:28

    Thanks guys – yeah think I'll upgrade to either Ablett or pendles, danger to Dusty will happen too as He starts slow and low scores v his first 5 opponents.

    Cheers

glennis · 18/01/2014 at 20:10

def
McVeigh, Mitchell, suckling, kolodjashnij k, McDonald, cutler, fuller, Georgiou
mid
pendlebury, selwood j, Watson, murphy, beams d, Thomas, polec, sheed, dunstan, honeychurch
rucks
naitanui, Sandilands, thurlow, nankervis
fwd
Dangerfield, wingard, parker, chapman, pavlich, lennon, taylor, garlett

    Wombats · 18/01/2014 at 21:15

    Love your fwd line! I think you might be a bit light in defense.

      glennis · 18/01/2014 at 23:11

      thanks buddy yeah I know but you have to be light somewhere also like the rookies down back more

        TheBIGShot · 24/01/2014 at 16:15

        yeah glennis good structure!!
        The backline can be tempting for rookies but they often have slower growth to cash cow slaughter in my experience than other positions. To balance that the big scores of other players in the backline generally aren't as big and the differential can be something that means it costs less points.

        So it depends if you want more dough to upgrade less backline rookie/wookies, if you want better point differential then use the rooks in backline. So if you are keen on your fwd line maybe boot daisy for a cheap rookie? Thats worth a thought I reckon anyways.

Dools · 18/01/2014 at 20:21

G’day Taylor.

Awesome stats mate and I agree with ya I’m taking a risk but I’m hoping it’s calculated

Keep those numbers comming ’cause I like to know this kinda stuff. Good on you and your research Thanks

    @taylorwoof · 18/01/2014 at 21:19

    Hey Dools!

    No problems at all mate. I don't mind crunching the numbers. Always good to get different perspective on players. Wombats posed a bloody good question.

      Dools · 18/01/2014 at 22:44

      G’day again Taylor’
      Amongst all your number chrucing was their eva a successful post knee op player Reconstruction or tear repair ???
      Cheers

        @taylorwoof · 19/01/2014 at 00:24

        Definitely. Many have come back and returned to there best. Goddard, Hayes, Ball are fine examples.

        But initially returning straight to their best (Wombats Q: First 6 games back, post serious knee inj), it seems some do (Ball & Hayes), and some take more than 6 games (Goddard, Malceski……).

          Dools · 19/01/2014 at 01:06

          Thanks TWoof, The suckling pig has been out for 13 months plus. Enough time in Rehab to build confidence methinks plus preseason So Do I replace him with Curtley Hampton or me ol mate Davis? GWS Players and could be on the path to Hanleiness (New word I Know) but beer is awesome at that suff…
          Keep it going … just love the stats mate
          Cheers

    throttlefinger · 18/01/2014 at 23:39

    Hate to say Dools, but these stats may require a contingency structure if he looks a little less than inspiring. Again, can bring in if form comes back.

      Dools · 19/01/2014 at 00:32

      Totally agree TF, How was Whisky and Nacho’s and did you get him on the Guinness? LOL
      I think if the Suckling Pig is in Top 22 after NAB the Grab a HAM hahah
      Great stuff from TWoof. Rejig Def coming soon

        throttlefinger · 19/01/2014 at 00:54

        He bailed. Hangover. Let your country down, Dools. Going to hit him up next week. Powers shots up to 3 with pale ale backers. Extra pulled pork on the nachos. Make him pay.

        Definitely rejiggering. Onward, Dools!

          Dools · 19/01/2014 at 01:59

          Ah he was probobly celebrating another Engerand loss and lost track of time and did not listen to Jocks Rant in Pod cast…. Bet he has a full cup of talent…Bastard
          Ah well

IHTC · 18/01/2014 at 20:58

Haven't seen any posts on Gunston? Think he could be a great pick up. When Hawks used him to get goals over buddy his scores were sensational

Last games of 2013
SC (Goals)
GF 124 (4), PF 146 (4), QF 99 (3)

Compared to Buddy
GF 83 (1), PF 49 (1), QF 58 (2)

Add this to biggest flops of 2013 in rd 1,3 and 19 where he scored no goals compared to Buddy's 2, 4 and 1 goal (both had bad games in rd 19).

Now as one of two main targets this should go up dramatically.

Think he'll be a steal!??

    Wombats · 18/01/2014 at 21:32

    Very interesting finals stats and made me check him out. $447k is an awkward price when he's going to cop a much better defender each week as #2-fwd than he did last year.
    I'm sure you can find better ways to spend that cash.

      @taylorwoof · 18/01/2014 at 22:09

      I agree, awkward pricing. Being a Hawks supporter, i'd love to have him in there. But at the pricing, i'm going with ex teammate Buddy instead.

        throttlefinger · 18/01/2014 at 23:44

        Have slotted Gunston as an option given those factors, IHTC. Same thought as Taylorwoof. More attractive options at that price range. May be worth a punt if he comes out raging R1-2.

Give It a Go · 18/01/2014 at 21:36

It's great to be back for the second year of SC community, had a wicked 1st time out, missed out on a final, better luck this year, I hope!!

Here's a team I've put together, lot depends on who makes it though the NAB comp and goes into R1, I've left myself 97K with some giggling can make it more, have a look over, see what you think? seems a good crop of players from the studying etc. Input well welcome

Defenders
McVeigh, Jarrad (MID) , Hanley, Pearce (MID) , Grimes, Jack (MID), Schofield, Will , Suckling, Matt , McDonald, Luke (MID). Bench, Fuller, Matthew, Cutler, Tom
Midfielders
Selwood, Joel, Cotchin, Trent, Mitchell, Sam (DEF), Murthy, Marc, Beams, Dayne, Thomas, Dale, Beams, Clayne, Cripps, Patrick, Bench, Dustan, Luke, Taylor, Lewis
Rucks
McEvoy, Ben, Hickey, Tom, Apnesss and King
Forwards
Dangerfield, Dixon, Mitchell, Tom, Zorko, Lennon, Ben, Kersten, Shane, Bench Hayes, Nicholas and Garlett, Dayle.

Good ya community,

    throttlefinger · 19/01/2014 at 00:02

    My second year here too, GIAG. Welcome back.

    Like a lot of your choices. Good mix of reliables and risk. And good amount of cash to give you trade flexibility in the early rounds.

    My suggestions would be that the Defs need more reliable elites. Move Mitchell to DEF. Worry about DDPs R5-8. Would make a choice between Schofield or Suckling. Go with one, trade the other for KK or cheaper rook (or maybe Laidler).

    Like the Mids, but going without either Gazza or Pendles could be SC suicide. And if you like Selwoods, maybe bring in Scooter Selwood. WCE has favorable starting schedule and he's in for a big year.

    Think McEvoy is a strong choice for R1. He did well on the lacking Saints. Can see him doing big numbers for a winning side. Hickey is a wait and see. Watch NAB and see who is looking better between he and Longer (might find a nice cash generator in Billy boy).

    I like Dixon for probably the reasons you do. Did well coming back from injury and provides you ruck support. As anyone will tell you here, I'm a big Lennon fan. Think he really has a chance to make R1. Markworth is another to consider for your reserves.

    Hope this (or some of this) helps, GiveIt.

      Give It a Go · 19/01/2014 at 00:53

      Thanks Trottlefinger for the advice.
      Enjoying being back, will do some gigging, defo shall watch the NAB closely, who's KK by the way?

        throttlefinger · 19/01/2014 at 00:59

        Kade Kolo Kolodjashnij. Expensive but from all reports seems like a lock to make GCS starting 22.

          Give It a Go · 19/01/2014 at 01:30

          Did some beer changes and come up with this team. $78K left

          Defenders
          McVeigh, Jarrad (MID) , Hanley, Pearce (MID) , Mitchell, Sam (DEF), Suckling, Matt , Kolodjashnij, Kade, McDonald, Luke (MID). Bench, Fuller, Matthew, Cutler, Tom
          Midfielders
          Pendlebury, Scott, Selwood, Joel, Cotchin, Trent, Scooter Selwood, Beams, Dayne, Thomas, Dale, Beams, Clayne, Cripps, Patrick, Bench, Dustan, Luke, Taylor, Lewis
          Rucks
          McEvoy, Ben, Hickey, Tom, Apnesss and King
          Forwards
          Dangerfield, Dixon, Mitchell, Tom, Gumbleton, Scott, Lennon, Ben, Kersten, Shane, Markworth, Daniel Bench Kersten, Shane and Garlett, Dayle

          Lot rides on the rookies, me thinks

            throttlefinger · 19/01/2014 at 02:12

            Gumbleton is a concern. Barron did a write up on the Bombers. He wasn't recommended. Someone I like is L. Hunter for the doggies. Fwd/Mid on an emerging squad who has showed great potential. Not a sure thing, but at $285K could generate you some cash fast.

            Lot of talk about Guns'n'Rooks strat not being relevant. I don't agree. Check out Higgo's analysis of last year's winner starting team and trading of last year's winner (and click on the article for 2012's winner). They employed that strategy then were deft in their trading strategy. The SC powers raised the price of rooks to make that strategy a bit harder. I think it's just a matter of finding undervalued prems/guns like Beams, Murph and Buddy on successful squads to counter that value increase.

            But that's my take, GIAG. Hope that helps.

              Give It a Go · 19/01/2014 at 02:25

              Thanks Trottlefinger, have had Murphy and buddy but dropped them to change the team, even though they played below par last season with injury's also,but your right its going to a good strategy alright to find the right balance.

              Cheers Bud

                throttlefinger · 19/01/2014 at 02:37

                Position giving me the hardest time (as well as Dools) is the ruc and undervalued players returning from injury. On the latter most notably Suckling, who Wombat and Taylorwoof broke down strong SC scorers coming back from serious injury and how historically they don't do so hot. And because of that GiveIt, I'm doing a contingency structure in case he looks weak in NAB.

                  Give It a Go · 19/01/2014 at 02:53

                  Same same, another who gun who had a injury was Jobe, I'm thinking of changing the team to Murphy, Jobe take SS and Cotchin out, I think Cotchin is a top gun though, giving me flex to add Buddy and Hunter plus change Hickey to Gundy leaving $4k, leaves the kitty a bit tight though. But this always changes on a hourly basis.

                  Ahhhhhhhh

                    throttlefinger · 19/01/2014 at 03:45

                    I've changed mine probably 10 times in the last 2 days. Sorta put a stake in the ground around two different structures and just keeping screenshoting so I can review later. Madness.

        ShinbonerSpirit · 19/01/2014 at 01:15

        Unique player. Silky left foot, tall rebounding defender/winger. The next Birchall?

          Dools · 19/01/2014 at 01:52

          Hi SS and community,
          I think he will debut this year but surely not in there 1st round 22???
          As to his skills in TAC Etcetc I have no doubt saw some footage of him and I’m sure he was not the only player in motion but man did he carve it up. I thought everyone else on the ground was in SloMo Electric but AFL Rnd1 ready? Well he does play for the Gold Coast and Toe injury to K.Hunt ..okay I’m sold he just hit my 22

            ShinbonerSpirit · 19/01/2014 at 01:55

            Yep forgot to mention the Hunt injury.

          Dools · 19/01/2014 at 02:10

          No you didn’t
          That was a secret LOL
          Cheers mate…Now I’m still struggling with Dixson so on to a little tipple of Irish B4 bed

@taylorwoof · 18/01/2014 at 22:50

Have noticed plenty of love for Brodie Grundy. I decided to do some research on ruckmen. I couldn't included either Cox, Sandilands or Minson in the data, as they debuted pre SC days.

Below is a list of ruckmen, and their second season games played & SC averages:

Nic [email protected] 71.1
Zac [email protected] 32.6
Jonathan [email protected] 74.9
Shane [email protected] 53.2
Mike [email protected] 58.5
Zac [email protected] 69.8
Ivan [email protected] 53
Matthew [email protected] 79.2
Robert [email protected] 49.1
Matthew [email protected] 75.4
Brent [email protected] 47
Hamish McIntosh [email protected] 55
Sam [email protected] 74.2
Todd [email protected] 49.7
Patrick [email protected] 70.3
Ben [email protected] 41
Matthew [email protected] 39.5

Grundy (363K) is priced at an average of around 68.0. Of the 17 ruckmen listed above, only 6 of them (35%) averaged greater than 68 in their sophomore season. With the highest average of 79.2 coming from Matthew Kreuzer.

Interesting what the game plan is for Grundy players. Banking on him averaging 75-80, then trade out once he hits the 430K mark. But that will only provide a 60-70K profit. Or are holders hoping he becomes a 85+ player and then becomes a keeper. How has Jarrad Witt been progressing this summer, it he valid positional competition?

Just some food for thought with all of the above.

    throttlefinger · 18/01/2014 at 23:49

    Man Taylorwoof, you are cranking out the numbers. Definitely brings some things to light. But I think this kid is special. The 93 against the Hawks showed that. He's very aggressive and mixes it up well. Can't say the same for Witt. Grundy seemed to take over when he got on the field. Think he'll average 85-90 this year. Yes, that's very optimistic. In terms of cash generating players, Sandi seems the one given his bargain basement price. Leaning towards Sandi as R2 but my Team B structure I have Grundy (for now).

    ShinbonerSpirit · 19/01/2014 at 00:24

    Love the numbers mate! Agree with TF, Grundy is a different animal. However, it is worth noting that all who played at least 20 games (the vast majority of the season) averaged more than 71 – don't read too much into NicNat's numbers though, it takes a lot to outshine Cox. Grundy is set for a number one role with the Magpies (Hudson isn't going to steal the spotlight) and boasts an AFL-ready physique.

      Dools · 19/01/2014 at 00:48

      Hi Lads
      Loved the Numbercrunching from TWoof, Ham&Eggbuger is R2 and TF will be pround of me have gone Minson as R1 (Injury and all) Grundy is still R3 ..I m’so over losing trades on broke back mountains (However Mummy/Maric and Minson my Tripple M) but leaves me only 120K in da vault but then the beer speaks…No trade in Ruc’s …MMMMMH..I feel a team change coming on again Damn! More late night drinking* Whoo Hoo (*& research) Ya I love this,

        throttlefinger · 19/01/2014 at 00:58

        Hate to say, Dools, I've pretty much abandoned Mummy. Unless he comes out looking like a beast, think being on a wooden spoon-favored team will not give us the SC scores to warrant an R1 role. Leaning towards Minson on high end, McEvoy low.

          Dools · 19/01/2014 at 02:19

          But I like the sound of MMM but you are right Mummy is a wait and see, as are all we speak of.

    meanieoh · 19/01/2014 at 08:47

    Witts is still training with Sinclair away from the main group, I certainly don't see him being an impact in the first half of the year.

    My guess is that, at least early on, it will be Grundy rucking with White giving him a chop out.

      @taylorwoof · 19/01/2014 at 16:34

      Cheers for the update on Witts Meanieoh! Appreciate it!

      Think i'm definitely going to look at Grundy now.

      Perhaps instead on Hmac/Sandi combo, Hmac or Sandi/Grundy might be the less riskier option….due to the injury record of the former too.

    TheBIGShot · 24/01/2014 at 16:19

    Great data And on those numbers he is priced up to his best. Thanks I was already going around him but adds to that caution for me. 🙂

@taylorwoof · 19/01/2014 at 00:17

Trying a different angle this season with the number crunching & posting on here more than simply reading. Gives another view on things rather than simply going on prev season averages and backing in the good old 'eye' from watching games.

Cheers for the feedback on Grundy Throttle. If he does hit that 85-90 ave then he'll be a very nice get. Agree with you regarding Sandi. Fair to say if he's sound come Round 1, then he'll be the most selected ruckmen.

    throttlefinger · 19/01/2014 at 01:01

    Think so too. And that's fine. PODs that work are a mix of thorough investigation and, well, a bit of luck. Like Dimm Wit's Malceski pick last year. Regardless, I think it's fair to say that you can't look for Sandi for long term play. Hope that he can make you a quick $150K then move him out.

    Wombats · 19/01/2014 at 12:47

    Hey Wolfie can you run this through your stats brain?

    Top 6 Mids for past 3 years. Average over first 3 games compared to end of season ave.
    Basically want to know who starts at top output. I very aware that the opponent has big influence (i.e crowley)

      @taylorwoof · 19/01/2014 at 16:36

      No worries Wombat. I'll see what i an conjure up bud.

        @taylorwoof · 19/01/2014 at 17:46

        Here we go Wombat! (Courtesy of Too Serious Stats Website) * Stats rounded down to zero decimal place as per their website.

        First three games Ave / Season Ave

        2013
        Ablett: 130 / 129
        Pendlebury: 135 / 127
        J.Selwood: 113 / 118
        Swan: 110 / 117
        Griffen: 115 / 116
        S.Johnson: 111 / 116

        2012
        Ablett: 139 / 136
        Swan: 100 / 129
        Pendlebury: 121 / 125
        D.Beams: 81 / 122
        Watson: 129 / 121
        J.P.Kennedy: 130 / 121

        2011
        Pendlebury: 125 / 129
        Ablett: 114 / 127
        Swan: 142 / 122
        Dal Santo: 111 / 119
        M.Murphy: 106 / 118
        Judd: 112 / 116

        *Taken the Top 6 Mids for each season, on average pts per game….not total pts for the season.

          Wombats · 19/01/2014 at 19:48

          Thanks mate your a gem. shame those numbers didn't reveal an opportunity to grab a slow starting premium after round 4 at $60k below starting price.

          Re:
          Hodge @ D3 Hanley @D4
          Will this be his first full pre-season in 3 years or was that last year?
          I don't see McVeigh backing up last year I reckon he'll ave 90 at the most so $570k is way overpriced.
          MadMick is just as likely to play walker in the fwd pocket for the first 6 weeks so that he can check out the draftees as he is to let him roam.
          I've been watching walks all his career and his only fault is that he goes into his shell when he has a physically aggressive tag. A mate of mine who starred for the Cats in the 90's (Gavin Excell) had exactly the same problem and when opposition coaches worked it out his career was over.

            @taylorwoof · 19/01/2014 at 20:16

            No worries mate. Yeah, bit of a bugger….they all started flying from the get go!

            RE: Andrew Walker. I traded him in last year for Chappy after about Round 5-6, and he was really good value. But agree with you, that hey may play forward. With the loss of Eddie Betts, Mick will need to find another 50+ goals from somewhere. Walker kicked 50 goals in 2011, so he could be a huge candidate to play forward. I believe playing forward would reduce his SC scores.

            Pretty sure Hodge did 'most' of the pre season last year. But know he did start it a fraction late, if i remember correctly. This year for sure would be his first 'full' pre season for quite a few years. Depends on what role Clarko gives him, to how well he scores. The old 'sweeper' role off half back, or purely midfield role. I'm thinking the former as Clarko might want to start blooding a few more young mids like Hallahan, Woodward, Hartung, and more mid time for Bradley Hill.

ShinbonerSpirit · 19/01/2014 at 01:01

I'm just throwing this out, but has anyone thought about Matt White? His name has become almost synonymous with the vest, with Richmond deciding to hand him an impact sub role more than 50% of the games he has played in. Result? An average of 56. And he is priced at exactly that.

Take away the vest-affected games, and you're left with an average of 78.4. However, the Tigers' management decided against giving the man an extended run of games without the vest for consistency's sake. He is, perhaps, a victim of his own explosive speed. Between Rounds 16 and 22 he was awarded a run of six games in which he remained on the ground for more than 80% of the time. His numbers read:

58, 62, 72, 80, 99, 107.

The 107 was duly rewarded with a customary vest in Richmond's last H&A game of the season, in which he scored 43. Nevertheless, the man can score proficiently when awarded an extended run of games. The early figures of 58 and 62 were the result of a low disposal efficiency rather than an inability to win the ball. His disposal count in those games read: 15, 17, 15, 12, 19, 22. In those last three games, he was handed more time on the pitch than he had been given all season bar Round 10 in which 88% of time on ground resulted in 95 points. It took him some time to rectify the efficiency issue, but when he did, he scored extremely well – an extended stint on the ground is all that's needed.

Only five times last year did he spend at least 85% of the game playing. His average? 88.

A move to Port just may be what the man needs. Should Mitchell and/or Polec keep the dreaded vest off White, he might average almost twice what he is priced at (85+ more realistically). He is similar to Montagna in that they both possess explosive speed and win plenty of uncontested ball. With Hartlett and Ebert at the club, opposition teams would be mad to even think about tagging White. And aged 26, it's now or never.

Just my $0.02.

    @taylorwoof · 19/01/2014 at 16:45

    Super info there Shinboner! Love it!

    On those stats alone, he has to be on the watch list. Could he be like Monfries last year?

    Only concern is he's a little awkwardly priced. But after reading your info, definitely keeping an eye on him in NAB.

Dools · 19/01/2014 at 01:39

Holy Sh1T Spirit,

That is pure inspiration mate, My keyboard keeps openin’ and closing disk space. I have read your post 3 times and …well I can’t fault it going to the fridge to compose next part …wait out…

Okay Keyboar Next G and I are going thru this….Polec is favored ATM. Kane Mitchell has falen off the planet(Which is ominious) and now another trade in…Power have Geelong type statagies Hmmm Motlop type mate except he is a ranga….I think Hinkley will use him..Will he be midfield or on the half fwd flank for port? Sh1t i was all for Polec to replace retirements….Wow he would be inspirational as a pick…but he generated those numbers after 5/6 years with the Tigs surely he would take more then a year to develope? but then why did PT select him on Free Agancy …Bugger…Thanks for the 1 AM wake up SS. Damn! Beer is getting warm and I think its only 23C . Keybord and next G are intrigued so more reseacrh for me WhooHoo!

    throttlefinger · 19/01/2014 at 02:03

    Well done, Shinerboner. Although the price is a bit awkward (esp, if you believe Martin will do as good as advertised).

    As a Tiges fan, Matty White getting the vest has been a bit of a head scratcher given the results you mention. Hinkley could inspire him more. Need to see how he fits in. I feel the same way about Nahas. He showed the ability but didn't get the chance. May work better for Roos. Those two are definitely worth watching.

Hutto · 19/01/2014 at 02:10

Gday all! Getting there I think! Still plenty of ifs and buts, particularly in my backs and ruck and am on hols in thailand so need to get back to a pc to see what the higginator has to say! In the mean time would love some feedback from all you SC gurus out there!

Def: Bartel, McVeigh, Hanley, KK, McDonald, Laidler + Cutler, Fuller

Mid: Pendles, Watson, Fyfe, Mitchell, Beams x 2, Michie, X Ellis + Dunstan, Honeychurch

Ruck: H Mac, Sandi + Brown, Nankervis

Fwd: Danger, Martin, Wingard, Dixon, Mitchell, McBean + Taylor, Garlett

Cheers. Love you long time…

    throttlefinger · 19/01/2014 at 06:58

    Strong team, Hutto. Lot of footy flexing going on. How much cash you have left?

    Laidler and X. Ellis I'd keep a closer eye on than most. Only area that looks thin is your rucks. Need a gun in there so the position carries its own weight. Dixon is a nice backup but you need point generation. And both those are more injury-prone than most. Suggest taking a chance on one as your R2. FWD line is very strong. If you're looking for Tiges, take Lennon over McBean. Word is that McBean isn't up to full strength and Lennon is angling for R1 selections.

      Hutto · 19/01/2014 at 08:41

      Thanks TF. Only $800 left over with this team, but have the option of trading down the likes of Laidler, Ellis, Wingard or even Watson to give a few extra $$$ before the start of the season should one of the rucks struggle. I really am hopeful of them getting through the first month or so before the inevitable breakdown. Big hopes, I know. Can't wait for the NAB to kick-off! I will definitely keep an eye on Lennons progress though and see what Dimma does with him. Thanks again TF!

        throttlefinger · 19/01/2014 at 10:11

        Which Mitchell is in your mids, Hutto? Would suggest trying to get your kitty $50K+. Give yourself some trade flexibility in the early rounds.

          Hutto · 19/01/2014 at 11:45

          Will definitely be aiming for more if I can before R1. Mitchell is in my midfield as a dpp option for the backs. Tom Mitchell is in my fwd line as another dpp option. Am considering downgrading maybe Wingard for Zorko to free up a little more depending on his preseason and where he'll be played. Although Wingard is meant to be pushing into the midfield this year and has been training hard since a month after the finals to achieve this, so will see.

            Hutto · 19/01/2014 at 12:13

            Haha sorry TF that would be Sam in the mids

Nathan · 19/01/2014 at 11:01

Hi community, thoughts on my v2.0 team would be much appreciated. Cheers

DEF
Mitchell, Sam (MID) $562,000
Hanley, Pearce (MID) $516,200
Hibberd, Michael $517,300
Suckling, Matt $312,200
Kolodjashnij, Kade $197,300
McDonald, Luke (MID) $182,300
Fuller, Matthew $117,300
Cutler, Tom $117,300

MIDS
Ablett, Gary $695,000
Watson, Jobe $601,300
Rockliff, Tom $591,500
Beams, Dayne $497,200
Thomas, Dale $341,800
Martin, Jack $222,300
Aish, James $187,300
Murphy, Marc $498,300
Dunstan, Luke $132,300
Morabito, Anthony $123,900

RUCKS
Lobbe, Matthew $464,400
Leuenberger, Matthew $523,500
Nankervis, Toby $117,300
Brown, Ben (FWD) $117,300

FWDS
Dangerfield, Patrick (MID) $609,000
Wingard, Chad (MID) $531,800
Roughead, Jarryd $531,300
Rohan, Gary $176,200
Lennon, Ben $162,300
Taylor, Lewis (MID) $117,300
Garlett, Dayle (MID) $117,300
Honeychurch, Mitch (MID) $117,300

I know my fwds are a risk, but if Rohan's fit i believe he will play 22 games and at the feet of Franklin and Tippet with Lamb, Everitt and Morton gone and Jetta on the wing. Could average between 60-80 IMO. Perfect cash cow, Round 10 bye too.

Worried about Watson and Hibberd too, what are your thoughts?

$2200 left

Thanks again community.

    throttlefinger · 19/01/2014 at 11:34

    Really like this structure, Nathan. Lot of good risks. Read the above thread about Suckling from Wombat and Taylorwoof. Something to think about if Suckling doesn't look strong during pre-season.

    Your mids and rucks are like a shot of whiskey backed by two shots of tequila. Nasty tasty and deliciously potent combo.

    Your FWDs is where the biggest risk is. But the structure is sound if Rohan look solid and Lennon/Taylor get the R1 nods. Bigger concern is that you don't have much moola left. You want to have cash so you can have maneuver with trades in the early rounds. Would try to rework a bit so you can have at least $30K. Yeah, that means using rookies. If we get a decent crop that hit it hard in NAB and get the R1 nod, you should take advantage, as the name of the game is cash generation in the first half of the season (a lesson I learned way too late last season)

    Hope this helps, Nathan.

      Nathan · 19/01/2014 at 13:08

      Cheers for the reply mate.

      Yeah i was very hesitant to put Suckling in also.

      I've just gone Suckling – Docherty atm. I'm just waiting to suss out the NAB now 🙂 $30k left

        throttlefinger · 19/01/2014 at 13:53

        Yeah, same here. Right now, I'm either doing that or just going KK at D4. Not sure.

SCMania · 19/01/2014 at 11:01

Hey guys didn't get anything on my last team so would appreciate feedback, thanks!

DEF: J. Bartel – J. McVeigh – S. Mitchell – M. Suckling – K. Koladjashnij – J.Laidler ( M. Fuller – A. Steinberg )

MID: S. Pendlebury – J. Selwood – T. Cotchin – D. Martin – D. Beams – J. Martin – D. Tyson – L. McDonald ( L. Dunstan – J. O'Rourke )

RUC: M. Lobbe – M. Pyke ( M. Apeness – T. Nankervis )

FWD: P. Dangerfield – C. Dixon – D. Zorko – J. Lamb – G. Rohan – B. Lennon ( S. Kersten – L. Taylor )

$8,600k left

Thought about DPP swings, Jesse Hogan and Bock couldn't fit in there, also Dayle Garlett. What do you think?

    SCMania · 19/01/2014 at 11:07

    Swap Steinberg for Cutler.

      throttlefinger · 19/01/2014 at 11:27

      Hey SCMania. Yeah, I like Cutler too. Don't think he'll make R1 but he's a maybe to make my reserves. Been reading heaps of great things.

      DEFs: Only concern would be Suckling. Read above for Wombat and Taylorwoof's thread about prem players performance after returning from a major injury. Definitely lot of eyeballs will be on him during NAB. Just prepare yourself if he doesn't look at form at start. May be worth having a R1 rook instead to give you more cash in the kitty and give you more cash to pick him up or someone else that's hot.

      Mids are ironclad strong. No comments on those other than keep an eye out for Morabito.

      Rucks is your most interesting and risky set up. Could pay off. That's a big daddy plums call. Could work or backfire. May be worth a shot as I would guarantee less than 5% will have that duo.

      Like the FWDs. I like the Lamb call. Rohan is a wait and see. May want to consider another rook in your starting lineup to give you more cash so you can have more room to trade in the early rounds.

      Nice structure, my man. Hope this (or some of it) helps.

        Hutto · 19/01/2014 at 11:52

        Agreed, and if Kersten doesn't get a guernsey, go with Garlett or Honeychurch perhaps.

          SCMania · 19/01/2014 at 11:59

          Thanks a lot guys!

Give it a go · 19/01/2014 at 12:54

Any reports on Karnezis, Patrick? worth a punt for F4, will leave me with $59K in the kitty

Wombats · 19/01/2014 at 12:54

Does anyone have any news on Jarman Impey?
I'm thinking that he and Jake Neade might share the small fwd role at Port.

    TheBIGShot · 24/01/2014 at 16:21

    my thoughts are neade will get first go so no on impey for mine.

Sauvy · 19/01/2014 at 13:18

Hey guys would love some feedback on my team 🙂

Def: Bartel, McVeigh, Hanley, suckling, r.shaw, fuller, (kolodjashnij, McDonald)

Mid: Ablett, Watson, Cotchin, beams, Thomas, J.martin, Tyson, Aish, (beams, Ellis)

Ruck: Nic nat, Sandilands,(nankervis, currie)

Fwd: Dangerfield, pavlich, Franklin, Higgins, lamb, bock, (garlett, Taylor)

I have $18,000 still in the bank.

    TheBIGShot · 24/01/2014 at 16:24

    cautions for me:
    R Shaw, Bock, Higgins return from injury unless stars in NAB.
    Pav seems to be well priced but might be better off looking for a mid type fwd.
    Nic Nat is a no for me early no matter his price unless NAB surprises.

@noahcavanagh · 19/01/2014 at 13:56

Latest team. Please have a look and comment thanks.

DEF
McVeigh, Jarrad (MID)
Hanley, Pearce (MID)
Swallow, David (MID)
Suckling, Matt
Kolodjashnij, Kade
McDonald, Luke (MID)
Cutler, Tom
Fuller, Matthew

MID
Selwood, Joel
Watson, Jobe
Rockliff, Tom
Cotchin, Trent
Prestia, Dion
Beams, Dayne
Martin, Jack
Aish, James
Sheed, Dom
Dunstan, Luke

RUC
McIntosh, Hamish
Sandilands, Aaron
Nankervis, Toby
King, Max

FWD
Dangerfield, Patrick (MID)
Martin, Dustin (MID)
Franklin, Lance
Walker, Taylor
Kersten, Shane
Taylor, Lewis (MID)
Garlett, Dayle (MID)
Clark, Mitch / Higgins, Shaun / Lennon, Ben

$3,300 In the bank

Any thoughts on my team and the last forward spot out of the 3? All thoughts will be taken in to consideration.

    Hutto · 19/01/2014 at 14:11

    Hey Noah, Team looks good, but Walker is comimg back from injury through the reserves, so not sure when he will play. Also remains to be seen when Kersten will get a go with Geelong. I have gone with a similar ruck, which you will also have to monitor through the NAB as both Sandi and H Mac are coming back from injury. May be handy to have a ruck/fwd option in your team to cover any missed games from them. Do you have a regular captain in mind in your side? To answer your question re: the last fwd spot, I would lean towrds Lennon based on what I have read on this site. He has apparently been pushing hard in the off season for a R1 berth. In saying that we're all kind of guessing at the moment until we see some NAB games played. Hope this helps mate.

      @noahcavanagh · 19/01/2014 at 14:30

      yes thank you and walkeri am going to keep on the bench rather then wasting a trade or having worry about getting rid of someone.

    ShinbonerSpirit · 19/01/2014 at 14:17

    Hutto is right, Walker is going to be eased in. The Crows will indubitably take the conservative route with Tex. Mate I've got some solid advice for you here: Do NOT go near Higgins! It will never, never, never end well. Great midfield. I'm wary of the Hmac/Sandi partnership – the two most injury-prone ruckmen… scratch that… two of the most injury-prone players in the league. Suckling is coming back from knee reco, so keep that in mind. Defense is solid for the most part.

      @noahcavanagh · 19/01/2014 at 14:31

      thanks and that what i was thinking about Higgins

rhino · 19/01/2014 at 14:28

Hey everyone, just wondering who you would choose.

Franklin or Parker or Mitchell from swans.

All comments would be appreciated.

    @noahcavanagh · 19/01/2014 at 14:37

    franklin mate

      Hutto · 19/01/2014 at 15:22

      I'm going Mitchell at this stage due to his time spent in the midfield and his dpp eligibility. Will review during the NAB.

    ShinbonerSpirit · 19/01/2014 at 14:56

    The obvious choice is Buddy, but I've got Parker in my team right now.

    IHTC · 19/01/2014 at 19:40

    Big swans fan and can tell you Parker is flying at training and is moving up pecking order in midfield with Jude retiring. He will definitely end this year with 100+ average. Strong tackler (ave 5 per game), can score goals (ave just under 1 a game) and averages 21 disposals per games which will go up.

    Buddy will kick over 80 this year with 8 games at SCG and then help the Swans win more MCG/ Etihad games as he loves both those venues.

    Mitchell is still being gently brought back after ankle, waiting to see his nab cup.

    Would go both Parker and Buddy in my opinion.

Michael · 19/01/2014 at 15:31

DEFENDERS:
Mitchell, Sam (MID) $562000 (HAW)
Bartel, Jimmy (MID) $572500 (GEE)
Simpson, Kade $513200 (CAR)
Suckling, Matt $312200 (HAW)
Scharenberg, Matthew $192300 (COL)
Kolodjashnij, Kade $197300 (GCS)
McDonald, Luke (MID) $182300 (NTH)
Laidler, Jeremy $161800 (SYD)
MIDFIELDERS:
Selwood, Joel $638700 (GEE)
Liberatore, Tom $576200 (WBD)
Dangerfield, Patrick (FWD) $609000 (ADE)
Steven, Jack $593100 (STK)
Thomas, Dale $341800 (CAR)
Martin, Jack $222300 (GCS)
Tyson, Dom $216800 (MEL)
Michie, Viv $172600 (MEL)
Aish, James $187300 (BRL)
Polec, Jared $172600 (PTA)
RUCKS:
Grundy, Brodie $363300 (COL)
Sandilands, Aaron $310700 (FRE)
Currie, Daniel $123900 (NTH)
Apeness, Michael (FWD) $137300 (FRE)
FORWARDS:
Franklin, Lance $487700 (SYD)
Rioli, Cyril $476700 (HAW)
Bock, Nathan $196900 (GCS)
Wingard, Chad (MID) $531800 (PTA)
Black, Aaron $412900 (NTH)
Billings, Jack (MID) $207300 (STK)
Garlett, Dayle (MID) $117300 (HAW)
Rohan, Gary $176200 (SYD)

$34,000 left in the bank, who would be the better option in the backline out of kade simpson and pearce hanley?

    @noahcavanagh · 19/01/2014 at 15:42

    pearce hanley big scorer and more consistent also Aaron Black is a big risk and i don't like it because there are a lot of cheaper and better options but nice

simmo3 · 19/01/2014 at 18:47

Hey legends would love a few thoughts

backs
McVeigh Mitchell suckling weller McDonald fuller (laidler, Cutler)

Mids
Ablett Pendelbury Watson Murphy D Beams Aish C Beams Michie (dunstan Morabito)

Ruck
Minson Grundy (Nankervis Currie)

Fwd
Dangerfield Martin Franklin Darling Higgins Taylor (Gartlett Honeychurch)

Sauvy · 19/01/2014 at 22:14

Hey guys would love some feedback on my team

Def: Bartel, McVeigh, Hanley, suckling, r.shaw, fuller, (kolodjashnij, McDonald)

Mid: Ablett, Watson, Cotchin, beams, Thomas, J.martin, Tyson, Aish, (beams, Ellis)

Ruck: Nic nat, Sandilands,(nankervis, currie)

Fwd: Dangerfield, pavlich, Franklin, Higgins, lamb, bock, (garlett, Taylor)

I have $18,000 still in the bank.

BLUEPRIME · 19/01/2014 at 22:37

First effort. I would expect about half of them will probably not be there by R1. Cheers

D Hanley R Henderson J Grimes Fuller
D Swallow Suckling L McDonald Cutler

M Pendlebury Cotchin S Mitchell M Murphy Polec
D Beams D Thomas C Beams Michie X Ellis

R B Grundy Sandilands Apeness D Currie

F Dangerfield L Parker Chapman B Lennon
D Hale Bock Rohan Broomhead

Rhino · 19/01/2014 at 22:59

Quite interested in jack Martin, there have been a lot of people saying Martin will have to average over pendles to make any money, which is a joke,

Martin Starts at 222.300 if he averages a modest 70 after 3 the first three weeks he will already be up to 254k

If he averages 125 like some people think he needs to, to make any money at all.

He will have already be at 330 after three round just wanted to clear that up.

Luto · 20/01/2014 at 03:19

Any thoughts would be appreciated
Cheers.

1. Walker, A
2. McVeigh, J
3. Mitchell, S
4. Hanley, P
5. Kolodjashnij, K
6. Laidler, J
7. Cutler, T
8. Fuller, M
9. Pendlebury, S
10. Watson, J
11. Ziebell, J
12. Murphy, M
13. Beams, D
14. Beams, C
15. Michie, V
16. Dunstan, L
17. Morabito, A
18. Taylor, L
19. Naitanui, N
20. Grundy, B
21. Apeness, M
22. Nankervis, T
23. Dangerfield, P
24. Martin, D
25. Franklin, L
26. Lamb, J
27. Billings, J
28. Rohan, G
29. Garlett, D
30. Honeychurch, M

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Sarah · 20/01/2014 at 09:08

What do people think of Rory Sloane or Keiran Jack??

    @taylorwoof · 20/01/2014 at 15:14

    Warming to Kieren Jack…

    Yesterday, i did some research on Top 10 'Total Points' scorers for past three seasons.

    Along with Gary Ablett, Kieren Jack is the only other player to appear in the Top 10 on total points for the past two seasons.

    Finished 7th on overall points in 2013, and 10th in 2012.

    Even though his season averages haven't been through the roof (109 in 2013, 112 in 2012), having been able to finish Top 10 in consecutive seasons shows he's very durable. He's on my short (long at the moment) list of Mid Premiums. On those numbers i think at the moment he is a valid selection in any side.

      @taylorwoof · 20/01/2014 at 15:56

      * Top 10 'Total Point' scorers (Mids only).

rolling thunder · 20/01/2014 at 18:09

1Bartel, Jimmy (MID) $572,500
2McVeigh, Jarrad (MID) $572,500
3Mitchell, Sam (MID) $562,000
4Laidler, Jeremy $161,800
5Kolodjashnij, Kade $197,300
6Langdon, Tom (MID) $117,300
7McDonald, Luke (MID) $182,300
8Fuller, Matthew $117,300
MIDFIELDERS
1Watson, Jobe $601,300
2Cotchin, Trent $572,000
3Sidebottom, Steele $555,300
4Beams, Dayne $497,200
5Thomas, Dale $341,800
6Pendlebury, Scott $683,100
7Ellis, Xavier $159,100
8Polec, Jared $172,600
9Morabito, Anthony $123,900
10Crouch, Matt $117,300
RUCKS
1Sandilands, Aaron $310,700
2Lobbe, Matthew $464,400
3Nankervis, Toby $117,300
4Apeness, Michael (FWD) $137,300
FORWARDS
1Dangerfield, Patrick (MID) $609,000
2Martin, Dustin (MID) $549,200
3Wingard, Chad (MID) $531,800
4Franklin, Lance $487,700
5Garlett, Dayle (MID) $117,300
6Taylor, Lewis (MID) $117,300
7Honeychurch, Mitch (MID) $117,300
8Thurlow, Fraser (RUC) $118,400

    NutSack · 20/01/2014 at 18:11

    would like to get rid of KK for Suckling but then would need to dig out 100K from somewhere

      NutSack · 20/01/2014 at 18:13

      could possibly exchange Sidebottom for Zorko, Gray or Grimes or D Swalow.

        NutSack · 20/01/2014 at 18:18

        its an OK team but. Maybe you need 1 more defence so getting Suckling could work. Its only early though rolling so you can adjust closer to season

          rolling thunder · 20/01/2014 at 18:33

          Hey thanks! I will keep my Def prems locked and same with my Fwds but in Mids Im also considering JPK, Murphy, Priddis and SSelwood. I reckon one of GAJ and Pendles is enough to start this year.

@taylorwoof · 20/01/2014 at 19:58

Over the past few days, Jock & The Boys constant talk and reminders of 'Fallen Premiums' has been stuck at the forefront of my mind. The likes of D.Beams, M.Murphy, D.Thomas, Franklin and co….

After many hours spent on researching stats and making numerous changes on the Higginator, i've come up with the following:

Rather than laying out this side in the usual format of DEF, MID, RUCK & FWDS. I've decided to list it as broken down on the Higginator under the ROOKIES, MID PRICERS & PREMIUMS categories.

ROOKIES : <200K (15)

K.Kolodjashnij, L.McDonald, M.Fuller, T.Cutler, J.Martin, D.Tyson, D.Sheed, C.Beams, L.Dunston, D.Currie, T.Nankervis, J.Hogan, G.Rohan, L.Taylor, D.Garlett.

MID PRICERS: <500K (7)

M.Suckling, D.Beams, M.Murphy, D.Thomas, A.Sandilands, L.Franklin, M.Pavlich.

PREMIUMS: >500K (8)

J.Bartel, S.Mitchell, L.Hodge, G.Ablett, N.Dal Santo, T.Goldstein, P.Dangerfield, D.Martin.

Salary Remaining: $61,600 (Higginator Projected Round Score: 1877.4)

Looking at the names under the Mid Pricers category, with the exception of Suckling and perhaps to a lesser extent Thomas they all 'Fallen Premiums'. Is this the closest to a G'n'R structure possible? Considering 6 of the 7 Mid Pricers listed above have the ability and a proven track record of being able to average 100+ in a season.

I know some of the above selections are questionable due to past injuries, age, etc (Hodge, Pavlich, Sandilands & Dal Santo).

Thought i'd share my findings/thoughts etc with the community.

    Wombats · 20/01/2014 at 21:09

    Hi Wolfie,
    I like it a lot but I reckon Nicky Dal is a bit risky being at a new club and all, also confident that Naismith will get a run before Toby, apart from that it's very similar to my latest team; 1799 on the Higginator 🙂

      @taylorwoof · 20/01/2014 at 22:08

      Cheers Wombat!

      Cool, Naismith easy swap with Nankervis if need be.

      Dal Santo, yeah no doubt always a risk when moving to a new club. Averaged 112 at the back end of 2013. Looking at either him or Scott Thompson as under priced mids. I still think both are capable of averaging 105+ in 2014. Both under priced solely off the back of one below par season.

SCMania · 20/01/2014 at 20:03

Your thoughts on Dom Tyson?

    @taylorwoof · 20/01/2014 at 20:21

    Thought it was ballsy of Melbourne to give up picks 2 & 20 for Tyson & 9.

    Paul Roos and the coaching staff must have a high opinion of him to have made that trade.

    I can't say i watched him closely enough in 2012. It's more of a speculative type pick at the moment, as most of the rookies are until we see them in the NAB Series. Plus being at Melbourne, surely he get's plenty of opportunity to rotate through the midfield from Round 1.

    What do you think of him?

      SCMania · 20/01/2014 at 20:44

      Well after listening to the podcast last night at his price it made me ask but should get close to 20 gms and maybe and average of 75+.

    BLUEPRIME · 20/01/2014 at 21:11

    Very good M8,9 or10. I would rather pocket 55-65K and go for C Beams, Michie,Polec or X Ellis.

      @taylorwoof · 20/01/2014 at 22:11

      No doubt, freeing up extra coin on a cheaper mid rookie would be super.

      Looking forward to the NAB Series. Will be watching the Melbourne games closely. Surely we get 1 or 2 from Tyson, Michie, Blease, Dom Barry etc.

BLUEPRIME · 20/01/2014 at 20:25

C Dixon $487900 Vs D Hale $449000
Both DPP. Comments?

    SCMania · 20/01/2014 at 20:46

    Charlie Dixon IMO, I think he's in for a big year. Maybe a 95-105 average if he's lucky!

Wombats · 20/01/2014 at 20:30

Any love for Chappy this year? I think Bomber likes him and he's cheapish.
I don't want him for the full season but if he can last until round 10 would be great round 6 would be ok

    SCMania · 20/01/2014 at 20:45

    Hey WB, love him as I'm Bombers but I think Zorko is a much better option as he is 447k and should get back to his 2012 form just about.

    BLUEPRIME · 20/01/2014 at 21:05

    Chappy is in my fwd line at present. He has plenty to prove with the dons and is impressing on the track. I think he will be averaging 100+ by round 10 and I would expect he would be my F2 by then and a keeper.

Wombats · 20/01/2014 at 21:00

Any truth to the rumour that Luke Brown will become part of midfield rotation at adelaide now that VB is gone?

Callum · 20/01/2014 at 21:22

Would love to hear thoughts on this team that I have so far, I think its shaping up fairly nicely.

DEF: Bartel(MID), Hanley(MID), Birchall, Suckling, Kolodjashnij, L Mcdonald(MID), Cutler, Fuller

MID: Pendles, Watson, Cotchin, Murphy, D Beams, Thomas, Martin, Michie, Dunstan, Morabito

RUCK: Sandilands, Mcintosh, Nankervis, B Brown(FWD)

FWD: Dangerfield(MID), Martin(MID), Wingard(MID), Franklin, Fasolo, Garlett(MID),Honeycrunch(MID),Taylor(MID)

22.1k left over

Still unsure about Dunstan and mcdonald as rookies, but i couldn't think of anyone else to replace them, unless I was to use a cheaper DEF rookie with possibly no DPP, and instead of dunstan have claye beams or aish. And Ben Brown in ruck is only there as a captain loophole, as he has a DPP for trades if needed and plays for north melbourne who have a fair amount of games on the Sunday, including plenty of 4:40 games as well as few Friday nighters.

    @taylorwoof · 20/01/2014 at 22:17

    Your D4-D8 is very popular. I'm currently running with the same.

    Can't question the mids at the moment, very strong. Quality of the rookies will be revealed during the NAB Series.

    Rucks, as you'd already know….two injury prone players is a risk. I initially had the same setup. Then decided to swap HMac for Goldstein, and a few changes elsewhere to free up the extra coin for that swap. If a rookie ruckmen reveals themselves over the NAB Series, then perhaps Hmac/Sandi combo could be a good play…with the rookie as backup. But until then…that combo poses a risk.

    Fwds look good. Plenty of potential swingers.

    Looks quite a good squad Callum!

      Callum · 21/01/2014 at 11:10

      Yeah I was thinking that too, I also had goldy in there then changed him to kreuzer who I think might shoot up in price, but then changed again to mcintosh

        Callum · 21/01/2014 at 11:13

        Changed mcintosh to kreuzer, dunstan to m crouch and wingard to L parker

Wombats · 20/01/2014 at 21:23

Wombats FC 2014 V2.30
Wombats FC 2014 V2.30
<250K
Garlett, Lewis, Lennon, Clarck, Naismith, Brown,Honeychurch, Dunstan, Beams, Martin, Fuller, Laidler, Cutler, Hunt
250K<500K
Vardy, Parker, Dixon, Sandi, Hay Mac, Thomas, Beams, Murphy,
500k<
Wingard, Ablett, Pendle, Libba, Hanley, Hodge, Mitchell, Bartell.

    Wombats · 20/01/2014 at 21:24

    1805 on the Higginator

      @taylorwoof · 20/01/2014 at 22:19

      Where do you think Vardy plays Wombat? Permanent Fwd, or Ruck/Fwd? Someone has to play the other key fwd role with Hawkins.

        Wombats · 21/01/2014 at 09:50

        I reckon Vardy will be #1 FWD at Cats. Not much sense in building your fwd strategy around a bloke who might not get up on the weekend. Tommy H is broken and unreliable. Vardy is fixed and has x-factor

Wombats · 20/01/2014 at 21:45

I'm so strung out waiting for the footy that I'm 'Playin the Higginator' Wombats v2.31 scores 1819.9 $4,900 in the bank

Wombats · 20/01/2014 at 21:47

Round 10 could be a worry with 15 of em having the bye

rhino · 21/01/2014 at 00:45

Anybody that is considering Steven Motlop? Watch his injuries problems and keep eye on him during off season. http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-01-18/star-cat-mo

    throttlefinger · 21/01/2014 at 01:06

    Was considering him. With injury concerns, going with Zorko at this point.

Dustin · 21/01/2014 at 03:11

DEF: Mitchell, Mcveigh, Birchall, Suckling, Mcdonald, Fuller (Laidler, Cutler)
MID: Pendles, Watson, Selwood, Cotchin, Beams, Daisy, JMartin, Dunstan (Morabito, Michie)
RUCK: Naitanui/Sandi, Grundy/Mcintosh (Apeness, Nankervis)
FWD: Danger, Martin, Franklin, Chapman, Garlett, Taylor (Honey, Kersten)

    throttlefinger · 21/01/2014 at 11:37

    Funny, I was just considering Chappy. But I think he may follow the Sandi strategy hope he gives you 8-10 rounds of good scores then upgrade. But at that price, it’s not as great a cash generator.

    Defs and mids are strong. Careful about nicnatbbnqord is that he’s still training on separate path from team. May not produce NicNat scores for a couple rounds. Food for thought…especially if he doesn’t play nab.

    Rawkin team, Dustin

@mattoconnell11 · 21/01/2014 at 11:42

Probably one of my last versions of my team that I will be posting on here so feedback would be very much appreciated!

DEF: S. Mitchell – J. Bartel – J. McVeigh – M. Suckling – K. Koladjashnij – L. McDonald ( M. Fuller – T. Cutler )

MID: S. Pendlebury – J. Selwood – T. Cotchin – D. Beams – M. Murphy – J. Martin – L. Dunstan – V. Michie ( X. Ellis – J. O'Rourke )

RUC: M. Leuenberger – I. Maric ( M. Apeness – T. Nankervis )

FWD: P. Dangerfield – D. Martin – D. Zorko – J. Hogan – G. Rohan – S. Kersten ( L. Taylor – D. Garlett )

9,000k left

    @mattoconnell11 · 21/01/2014 at 11:43

    SCMania it is if your wondering.

      Sarah · 21/01/2014 at 13:02

      Love the rucks but I think you're a bit light on for forwards. I also have reservations over McVeighs price, I'm not sure he'll be able to back up his scoring power of last year, but that's just my opinion.
      Otherwise, it looks great. Pretty solid midfield 5.

        @taylorwoof · 23/01/2014 at 11:42

        I agree with you Sarah re McVeigh. He's an upgrade target later in the season if he repeats last year's numbers. ATM going with Bartel, Mitchell & Hodge as Premiums defenders.

    Wombats · 21/01/2014 at 13:39

    I'd reconsider big Ivan. Now that the Hammer has moved to tigerland he wont be doing anywhere near as much work = nowhere near as many SC points

      @taylorwoof · 23/01/2014 at 11:46

      I agree with you Wombat.

      I would think the back issues Maric had late last season could be a concern. Perhaps that is why they recruited Hampson during the off season, to lighten the workload for Maric…..hence decrease in SC output.

Sarah · 21/01/2014 at 13:00

Draft 2. Would appreciate some feedback. Thanks guys 🙂

Def: Bartel, Mitchell, Hibberd, Reilly, McDonald, Fuller (Clurey, Battersby)

Mids: Pendlebury, Barlow, Sloane, Liberatore, D Beams, Martin, Michie, Dunstan (O'Rourke, Honeychurch)

Rucks: Grundy, Sandi (Currie, Brown)

Fwds: Dangerfield, Wingard, Dixon, Parker, Hogan, Lennon (Taylor, Garlett)

Please note, rookies are subject to change dependant on NAB form and round 1 teams.

    SCMania · 21/01/2014 at 13:13

    Nice team, weak ruck though with risky on fields, two North Melbourne bench options who probably won't play much. Overall nice though.

      Sarah · 21/01/2014 at 13:18

      You're right. I've changed Brown to Apeness.

        SCMania · 21/01/2014 at 13:28

        Good decision.

    Wombats · 21/01/2014 at 13:36

    I reckon your midfield is a bit soft, 2 rookies and a 1 gamer on the field might cost you.
    Fwds are great and Rielly is an astute call down back

      Sarah · 21/01/2014 at 13:52

      Fair call re the midfield. I don't see where I can free up some more cash without compromising another line. Got to have a certain amount of cash cows anyway and the midfield is the best place for them. But thanks for your comments. As always though, no team is final until 5 minutes before the first bounce in round 1!!

rhino · 21/01/2014 at 18:54

Didn't ever think I would say this but anyone considering Jack Watts, thoughts on him if this is true and shows a bit of form during NAB cup
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-01-17/watts-embra

    jimbotraralgon · 22/01/2014 at 08:58

    not at this stage. would have to show a major change in role and attitude in the preseason games to be considered.

    Even then his price at $411 is very diffcult for my team structure. He's neither here or there. not a cash generator nor is he a premium.

    Yes he could come good but I'm of the opnion its only 10/1. odds arent good.

      throttlefinger · 22/01/2014 at 09:43

      Also Rhino, it's a bit trickier picking players from a wooden spoon-favored team. The SC points aren't always flowing as freely. Food for thought.

jimbotraralgon · 22/01/2014 at 09:07

Hi guys.

Got a issue with my forward line.

I cant decide on the dixon/lennon combo or the Titch/rohan double.

dixon gives me a ruck back up to nicnat and sandi but dixon/lennon make it 5 round 8 in the forward line which is not good.

I think dixon and titch will both increase by similiar this year but rohan is much more likely to play than lennon.

titch and lennon gives me a 3-1-4 bye break down and a better balance for the byes across the team.

    throttlefinger · 22/01/2014 at 09:41

    Hey JImbo. Struggle with this as well for the most of the same reasons. If Rohan looks good in NAB, I think this is a simple matter between him and Lennon (who I too doubt will play R1 after hearing the Crouching One's remarks). Between Dixon and Titch, that's a toss up. Even Dixon and Parker, who I've read has looked great in training too. And Swans have easier out of the gate draw (GWS, [email protected], Crows, Lions).

    If made to decide, I'd do Dixon/Rohan. Mostly due to limited ruc/fwd DPP so you wouldn't have to worry about that anymore. Oh, how many Mid DPP do you have in your forward line besides Danger? If only Danger, that may make me choose Titch.

      jimbotraralgon · 22/01/2014 at 11:09

      can't afford dixon/rohan, about 5k short. that would be my preferred option.

      options would be too steal from other lines such as laidler in defense or mitchie in the mid. They are about the only ones up for negotiation at this stage till I start seeing games.

      throttle, side is:
      Mitchell, mcveigh, Dswallow, suckling, KK, LMcD (Laidler, Fuller)
      Gaz, Pendles, DBeams, Smurph, daisy, CBeams, polec, Jacky, (michie, JOR)
      NicNat, Sandi (longer, P Mitchell)
      Danger, Dusty, Buddy, *Titch*, *Rohan*, Kersten, (Taylor, Garlett)
      $18k

        throttlefinger · 22/01/2014 at 11:29

        Ahhhhhhhhh. That Longer as R3 has been something I played with as well, Jimbo. And the reason you're a bit cash strapped. Not knocking it. But wondering if worth it from the jump. Certainly solves the Dixon as backup issue (and if Longer is striving for Saints #1 ruck may give you a fast track to bring Dixon in anyhow). And to your point, you could pick a cheaper reserve for Michie and Laidler (Morabito and Cutler)

        In other words, I think you have some flexibility that makes this a worthwhile structure.

        You know who I'm leaning towards bring in FWDs: Hunter on the doggies. Strong scores last season, Mid swing and $285K. Prefer him to Lamb. But having hard time working him into my Danger/Wingard/Buddy/Zorko line. Not sure yet.

    throttlefinger · 22/01/2014 at 10:28

    Your question has me re-re-re-rethinking whether to do Dixon or Buddy as my F2. Thanks Jimbo.

      jimbotraralgon · 22/01/2014 at 11:11

      I am willing to take a few punts this year. Buddy has a much bigger upside. Lock for me unless he looks disinterested preseason. Would love that ruck backup though.

        throttlefinger · 22/01/2014 at 11:30

        Agree. Doing so many versions I keep trying to fool myself that Parker/Titch may be a nice gamble to save some bucks.

throttlefinger · 22/01/2014 at 09:52

Need some thoughts on sub $500K def. Ones I'm interested in for various reasons Hurn (favorable opening schedule), R. Henderson (capable of monster score), Reid (on the rise fwd DPP), Swallow (good price for strong mid swing) and Goodes (build off last year on emerging Doggies). Or any other names?

Any help would be appreciated.

    throttlefinger · 22/01/2014 at 09:55

    Harbrow is another. Good consistent scoring with the occasional ton. Rarely a stinker.

    jimbotraralgon · 22/01/2014 at 11:18

    for me, I'm going Swallow. 3rd year. Often 3rd years have somewhat of a mini breakout (maybe 10 pts), I think he has the highest upside and the best chance for the most midfield time.

    Not yet convinced about Ricky's role at the crows this year. To quote the Barron, '

    During the first 10 rounds he was once again used in this swingman fashion, which saw him dropped after Rd 5 and averaging a measly 65.14 SC points over his first 7 games. However, once Brent Reilly went down with a shoulder dislocation in Rd 14 against the Gold Coast, Ricky was moved into that loose man in defence role that Reilly occupied and excelled. In his next 7 games playing down back his SC average jumped to 105.42.'

    So when looking at henderson, maybe the question is, where is Reilly at?

    And purely without any basis, just not much of a fan of Hurn although with Waters down again this might help his cause?

      throttlefinger · 22/01/2014 at 11:38

      I had Hurn last year and the results weren't very satisfying. Yet his numbers are pretty good over the years. Has a strong kick to handball ratio. Thinking that with an easy starting schedule, he could come out the gate hard and keep it consistent. And you're right, with Waters out he should have more SC points to scoop up.

      Yep, that was my fear about Hendo. He may be someone to keep on the watch list to bring in after a couple rounds.

      You liking Swallow, huh? Nothing about him really stands out. But at that price, it may be worth a punt.

      Thanks for your thoughts, Jimbo. Much to chew on.

throttlefinger · 22/01/2014 at 11:54

Undervalue mids special. Thoughts where going right and what's doomed for beatdown street.

DEF
S.Mitch, Hanley, Hurn/Swallow, Docherty, L.McD, Fuller (Cutler, Battersby)

MID
Pendles, Cotch, JPK, Beams, Gaff, Daisy, Polec, Dunstan (Morabito, Garlett)

RUC
Minson, Sandi (Nankervis, Currie)

FWD
Danger, Dusty, Buddy, Zorko, L. Hunter, Blease (Taylor, Lennon)

Cash: $90K (for trade wiggle room)

    jimbotraralgon · 22/01/2014 at 13:44

    hey throttle.

    I'll be doing something similar outside of my league team, just for the overall and see what happens.

    In the Mids surely Claye Beams and Smurph might fit the definition? Mitch Clark up forward and Bock?

    or you looking at pretty much midfielders all round?

      throttlefinger · 22/01/2014 at 14:10

      Clark and Bock are considerations as well, Jimbo. Like Beams and Murph too. Thinking the same for a non-league team. Have a separate Higginator file for more risky structures. Like this one but don’t love it. D3, M4-5 and F4-5 not feeling right.

        jimbotraralgon · 22/01/2014 at 15:51

        dont do your head in mate.

        D Beams is a lock. Just think of the other ones as $ value place markers for now.

        Now step away from the side for 3 days, dont look at it at all…….then come back….things become clearer.

Hutto · 22/01/2014 at 12:31

Sam Jacobs reported that Matt Crouch picked up 15 touches in 20 mins during a match sim. Maybe a cheapie to watch?

    jimbotraralgon · 22/01/2014 at 13:41

    i think I could pick up a dozen stats in 20 minutes when you do back to back centre bounce drills and spreads. I imagine they were concentrating on touching the footy. wouldn't imagine the tackle/pressure count would be too high.

    saying that…..i do like the boy…..maybe second half of the year….we need someone to be an upgrade target 😉

JJFYZZ · 22/01/2014 at 13:05

Feeling good about this team so far.

Here's the breakdown using The Higginator 2014 (You have a sensational tool Higgo)
Player type: 50% Rookie, 13% Mid, 37% Premo
Bye: Rnd 8 – 10 outs, Rnd 9 – 9 outs, Rnd 10 – 11 outs
Trading freedom Def – 0, Mids – 10, Rucks – 1, Fwds – 2
No team with more than 3 ins

Here's the team

Bcks: Walker, Mitchell, McVeigh, Bartel, K Kolodjashnij, L McDonald (M Fuller, Cutler)
Mids: Pendles, Jobe, Cotchin, D Beams, Daisy, C Beams, D Sheed (Crouch, Towers)
Rcks: Nic Nat, Sandi (Longer, Apeness)
Fwds: Danger, Wingard, Dusty, Lewis, Rohan, L Taylor, Garlett (B Brown, Honeychruch)

What do you think?

JJFYZZ

    Rhino · 22/01/2014 at 13:12

    Missing a midfielder?

      Rhino · 22/01/2014 at 13:24

      Also think you have spent around 280.000 too much mate.

    JJFYZZ · 22/01/2014 at 13:29

    Whoops missed Tyson. Thanks for the pick up.

    Mids: Pendles, Jobe, Cotchin, D Beams, Daisy, D TYSON, C Beams, D Sheed (Crouch, Towers)

Rhino · 22/01/2014 at 13:34

Ok now your ok I was assuming that Lewis was Jordan Lewis and you put him in your forward so i thought he was in midfield? Who is Lewis in forward line cause you got an extra there? Sorry mate don’t think you have overspent.

    JJFYZZ · 22/01/2014 at 14:32

    Now I've fixed up the lines. The Higginator tells me I've still got $20,900 left in the kitty

JJFYZZ · 22/01/2014 at 14:03

Serves me right for trying to do too much at once.

Bcks: Walker, Mitchell, McVeigh, Bartel, K Kolodjashnij, L McDonald (M Fuller, Cutler)
Mids: Pendles, Jobe, Cotchin, D Beams, Daisy, D TYSON, C Beams, D Sheed (Crouch, Towers)
Rcks: Nic Nat, Sandi (Longer, Apeness)
Fwds: Danger, Wingard, Dusty, Rohan, L Taylor, Garlett (B Brown, Honeychruch)

Rhino · 22/01/2014 at 14:52

Now I’m with you, great side love how you have all 4 big defenders that could be a winning move. Like the longer move to cover Sandi. Great Team.

SCMania · 22/01/2014 at 16:21

DEF: S. Mitchell – J. Bartel – J. McVeigh – M. Suckling – K. Koladjashnij – L. McDonald ( M. Fuller – T. Cutler )

MID: S. Pendlebury – J. Selwood – T. Cotchin – M. Murphy – D. Beams – C. Beams – J. Martin – L. Dunstan ( J. O'Rourke – M. Crouch )

RUC: P. Ryder – M. Leuenberger ( M. Apeness – F. Thurlow )

FWD: P. Dangerfield – D. Martin – D. Zorko – J. Lamb – J. Billings – S. Kersten ( D. Garlett – L. Taylor )

$16,800K left

    throttlefinger · 22/01/2014 at 22:36

    Very nice team, SCMania. Can't find too much to comment on. Rucks is the only wild card but with Bellchambers out Ryder may be a great POD selection at the start. Have backups ready in case Billings and Kersten don't get the R1 call. 12 round 8 bye players so make sure you have a solid trade plan to combat that when it rears its ugly head.

      SCMania · 23/01/2014 at 08:13

      Thanks rookies would have changed by round 1. Example: Kersten – Honeychurch.

        throttlefinger · 23/01/2014 at 08:20

        Yeah, at this point I think we all have the same rotating rooks based on pre-NAB talk. Sure it will change again once NAB begins. And change again once R1 selects are made. Ahhh, the agony of waiting. I've done five versions based off two different structures just today. May need to take next week off.

jimbotraralgon · 22/01/2014 at 18:19

Nicnat might be going for surgery. https://soundcloud.com/sen1116/david-schwarz-on-n

    Hutto · 22/01/2014 at 18:30

    Wow! He was already looking a sceptical choice given that he was training separately, but that's huge news! Big Cox could be a good ruck option if he's going it alone?

    Liam · 22/01/2014 at 18:55

    Wow this is really big news, brings Cox into consideration. Also gives Lycett a huge oppurtunity at AFL level

      rhino · 22/01/2014 at 20:28

      Do you know how long he could be out for, I don’t know anything about groin injuries.

        SCMania · 22/01/2014 at 20:37

        https://twitter.com/footyrhino/status/42589840573… going by this it is a rumour.

          jimbotraralgon · 22/01/2014 at 23:56

          david Schwartz might gotten this one wrong.

        Wombats · 22/01/2014 at 20:50

        Mate groins are a real important muscle; I had to use my hands to lift my leg in and out of the car after doing a groin. They take a huge amount of strain in strength contests and depending on which side it's on it can be impossible to launch a jump or sprint when it's strained or torn. IMO 6-months at least if its the same one as last year, longer than a knee reco.

      Wombats · 22/01/2014 at 21:15

      Sinclair might get a run before Lycett

    jimbotraralgon · 22/01/2014 at 22:02

    If you guys are interested. The article to go with the sound bit is on the SEN website.

    Funny enough another site had nic returning with the main group today.

    Leave this in the unconfirmed category for now.

Blueprime · 22/01/2014 at 19:32

With the great insights from the Community last year was rapt to finish the season at 2901 in supercoach which was considerably better than the previous year. A big thankyou to the Master Jock, Higgo,Crouching and everyone who posted on the website. Your thoughtful comments and insights were invaluable. This year am aiming to be in the first 1000. With Jocks inspired leadership am certain to see most of you there.
Team V2. Cap 11200. Be interested to read any comments.

DEF Mitchell Hanley R Henderson Grimes
Suckling L McDonald Cutler Fuller

MID Pendlebury Cotchin M Murphy D Beams Chapman
D Thomas Tyson C Beams Michie Polec

RUC Ryder Sandilands Apeness Currie

FWD Dangerfield Dixon L Parker Lamb
Bock Rohan Broomhead L Taylor

Cheers to all.

    Wombats · 22/01/2014 at 20:00

    IMO an excellent Team.
    Obviously your sub 250K players will change depending on round 1 starts but as it stands it looks like a very high scoring team to me. Personally I don't think danger will score his price in the first 5 and I'm yet to be convinced that Hendo is a top 10 defender.

Rhino · 22/01/2014 at 23:13

Hey guys,

Zorko or Parker?

Thoughts would be great.

    throttlefinger · 23/01/2014 at 00:01

    I've wrestled with this as well, Rhino. Decided on Zorko. And I think Zorko is a lock for me — even given I stayed with him last season to GREAT dissatisfaction. He's at the ripe age of 24. Is prone to some monster games 153. Other than that, Parker is on par with him in terms of career averages. On the Swans there are many other great players but Lions don't have that wonderful problem. Meaning, I think with new coach and being a focal point on the offense, he could put up some big numbers this season.

    But you can't go wrong either way. That's just my take, my man.

PJ8 · 23/01/2014 at 08:29

Can someone give me some info on Lobbe (PA). I see him named in many teams so far. I looked into it and see from 19 games last year he only had 5 over 100, he did avg 86 but $464,400 is a very awkward price to me.

Is everyone expecting breakout year? Am I missing something?

    @taylorwoof · 23/01/2014 at 13:02

    He finished the year off well (ave last 6-7 games or there about's was good) and seems to be Port's No.1 Ruck…..few reasons why people are selecting.

    Personally i couldn't select him if you paid me…..but that's just me.

      @taylorwoof · 23/01/2014 at 13:03

      * And a good finals series too.

Give It a Go · 23/01/2014 at 11:30

G'day comminity, just another version of on going versions, ahhhhhhhh

Give us a heads up on what you think, here goes

Def
Bartel, McVeigh, Hanley, Suckling, KK, McDonald, Cutler and Fuller

Mid
Pendelbury, JK, Cotchin, Liberatore, SS, Beams D, Xavier E, Dunstan L, Taylor L and Garlett D

Rucks
Ryder, Sandilands, Thurlow F and Naismith

Forwards
Dangerfield, Dixon, Zorko, Hunter L, McCarthy C, Markworth D, Reynolds L and Honeychurch

Have $34 left, lot depend,s on the rookies playing R1, tell us what you think

Cheers

Benb · 23/01/2014 at 13:09

hey guys this is my second year of supercoach last year i came around 13,000 I was just wondering what you think about my team DEf J. grimes , S. mitchell, P. hanley, M. suckling, K.Kolodjashnij, L. mcdonold, M. fuller, T.cutler. MID J. watson, S. pendelbury, J. selwood, D. beams, M. grigg, D. thomas, C. beams, J. martian, L. dunstan, A. morabito, RUCK N.naitanui, A. sandilands, T. nankervis, D. currie, FOR P. dangerfield, D. martian, J.roughead, J. caddy, A. falsolo, M. honeychurch, T. lewis, D. garlett 127,000 left please replie where you think i might come and what changes i should make by the way I am 12

yurkins · 23/01/2014 at 15:36

here is one I’d been tinkering with:
Bartel, Jimmy (MID) $572,500, Mitchell, Sam (MID) $562,000, Hanley, Pearce (MID) $516,200,
Guthrie, Camerson $317,900, Suckling, Matt $312,200
Fuller, Matthew $117,300, Cutler, Tom $117,300, Langford, Will $123,900

Pendlebury, Scott $683,100, Ablett, Gary $695,000, Watson, Jobe $601,300
Beams, Dayne $497,200, Thomas, Dale $341,800, Beams, Claye $183,400, Dunstan, Luke $132,300, Martin, Jack $222,300, O’Rourke, Jonathan $123,900, Taylor, Lewis (FWD) $117,300

Ryder, Patrick $486,400, Jacobs, Sam $460,200
Nankervis, Toby $117,300, Apeness, Michael (FWD) $137,300

Dangerfield, Patrick (MID) $609,000, Franklin, Lance $487,700, Robinson, Mitch (MID) $434,600
Chapman, Paul (MID) $464,400, Lennon, Ben $162,300
Honeychurch, Mitch (MID) $117,300, Thurlow, Fraser (RUC) $118,400, Garlett, Dayle (MID) $117,300

$50K left.
I see suckling, Guthrie and Robinson as mid pricers able to gain 10-15 avg points enabling upgrades to premos in form.

Disco Stu · 23/01/2014 at 18:31

Defenders

Jimmy Bartel [GEE] [MID]$572,500 Shannon Hurn [WCE]$472,000

David Swallow [GCS] [MID]$429,400 Jack Watts [MEL] [FWD]$411,100

Matt Suckling [HAW]$312,200Luke McDonald [NTH] [MID]$182,300

Jeremy Laidler [SYD]$161,800Matthew Fuller [WBD]$117,300

Midfielders

Trent Cotchin [RIC]$572,000Marc Murphy [CAR]$498,300

Dayne Beams [COL]$497,200Andrew Gaff [WCE]$383,500

Dale Thomas [CAR]$341,800Clinton Young [COL]$243,800

Jack Martin [GCS]$222,300Dom Tyson [MEL]$216,800

Claye Beams [BRL]$183,400Viv Michie [MEL]$172,600

Rucks

Will Minson [WBD]$616,600Aaron Sandilands [FRE]$310,700

Fraser Thurlow [ESS] [FWD]$118,400Toby Nankervis [SYD]$117,300

Forwards

Patrick Dangerfield [ADE] [MID]$609,000Lance Franklin [SYD]$487,700

Paul Chapman [ESS] [MID]$464,400Jack Darling [WCE]$413,300

Mitch Clark [MEL]$249,200 Nathan Bock [GCS]$196,900

Gary Rohan [SYD]$176,200Dayle Garlett [HAW] [MID]$117,300

Looking for too much love?

    Wombats · 24/01/2014 at 11:37

    Damn Stu I reckon it might be the night fever.
    Risky risky risky. Good luck

Sando22 · 24/01/2014 at 08:55

Hi All,

Any help or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
Have 13 blokes with the bye in Round 8 which bothers me but trying hard to include a few DPP for a bit of flexibility.

DEF: J Bartel, P Hanley, H Shaw, R Shaw, K Koladashnij, L McDonald (T Cutler, M Fuller)

MID: S Pendlebury, J Selwood, S Mitchell, L Hodge, D Beams, J Martin, D Sheed, A Morabito (M Honeychurch, D Garlett)

RUC: B Grundy, A Sandilands (D Currie, T Nankervis)

FWD: P Dangerfield, D Martin, C Wingard, L Franklin, A Fasolo, G Rohan (D Menzel, L Taylor)

    Wombats · 24/01/2014 at 11:34

    Hi Sando,
    Love your forward line.
    You probably know that Selwood is having surgery this week and wont play round 1 so you will have changed that already. I think you should also re-visit your backline, you've only got 3 guaranteed starters.

      Sando22 · 24/01/2014 at 14:52

      Thanks for the advice Wombats. Much appreciated. Yeah just heard heard about Selwood so have jumbled things around a little. Thoughts?

      DEF: J Bartel, P Hanley, H Shaw, M Suckling, K Koladashnij, L McDonald (T Cutler, M Fuller)

      MID: S Pendlebury, J Watson, S Mitchell, M Murphy, D Beams, D Thomas, J Martin, A Morabito (M Crouch, L Dunstan)

      RUC: B Grundy, A Sandilands (D Currie, T Nankervis)

      FWD: P Dangerfield, D Martin, C Wingard, L Franklin, G Rohan, D Garlett (M Honeychurch, L Taylor)

      61k left in the bank also.

Wombats · 24/01/2014 at 11:42

DUSTY will be a defender
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-01-24/dusty-the-d

That is going to kill his supercoach potential
Hahahahahaha

    throttlefinger · 24/01/2014 at 19:14

    Oh man, will that. Although as a Tiges fan, I'm happy to hear that.

      WombatsFC · 24/01/2014 at 22:44

      Actually throttle they might be turning him into an andy walker type so he could increase his output by 10. Would also mean a different job for ellis or houli though.

        throttlefinger · 24/01/2014 at 22:49

        Yeah, worked well for Bartel as well. With his engine and boot, think it could mean big SC points. We'll see. Was already going to wait to bring in. Use as upgrade.

        yeah, I was thinking of adding Ellis. Not sure if this will aid or hamper his game. Want him in my side because he's a player.

Michael · 24/01/2014 at 14:19

BACKS:
Mitchell, Sam (MID) $562,000
Bartel, Jimmy (MID) $572,500
Hanley, Pearce (MID) $516,200
Suckling, Matt $312,200
Kolodjashnij, Kade $197,300
McDonald, Luke (MID) $182,300
Fuller, Matthew $117,300
Laidler, Jeremy $161,800
MIDS:
Ablett, Gary $695,000
Liberatore, Tom $576,200
Beams, Dayne $497,200
Murphy, Marc $498,300
Thomas, Dale $341,800
Martin, Jack $222,300
Tyson, Dom $216,800
Michie, Viv $172,600
Morabito, Anthony $123,900
Polec, Jared $172,600
RUCKS:
Sandilands, Aaron $310,700
Grundy, Brodie $363,300
Nankervis, Toby $117,300
Apeness, Michael (FWD) $137,300
FORWARDS:
Dangerfield, Patrick (MID) $609,000
Franklin, Lance $487,700
Zorko, Dayne (MID) $447,200
Wingard, Chad (MID) $531,800
Billings, Jack (MID) $207,300
Bock, Nathan $196,900
Rohan, Gary $176,200
Taylor, Lewis (MID) $117,300

happy with my forwards and defenders, but with $159,700 left in the bank should I upgrade say Grundy to Nic Nat or look to strengthen my midfield a bit more?

    TheBIGShot · 24/01/2014 at 14:47

    hey Michael pretty hard to fault, though not much POD. My only thoughts would be on mid rookies, I'd be looking to have at least one (maybe 2) cheaper rookie (maybe move L.Taylor who is DPP into the mids and maybe put gartlett in the fwd line?) and upgrade maybe Zorko or Libber? (libber to Watson who no one is picking this year, Zorko to roughie or the Hoff? )

    On nic nat, I'd be looking at minson or goldie rather than dogdog who has had interrupted preseason. Or go for Sam Jacobs who carried an ankle last year and will return to form this season for mine.

TheScorpions123 · 24/01/2014 at 14:58

What are your thoughts on Kade's brother Jake Kolodjashnij? I know he might not get many games at Geelong , but is it worth giving him a chance? please give it some thought , anyway here is my team , it will definitely change so don't be afraid to poke holes in it.

DEF: A.Walker , S.Mitchell (MID) , P.Hanley (MID) , K,Kolodjashnij , T.Cutler , M.Fuller ( J.Kolodjashnij , T.Langdon )

MID: G.Ablett , T.Liberatore , P.Dangerfield (FWD) , J.Bartel (DEF) , T.Cotchin , M.Murphy , J.Martin , J.Aish ( A.Morabito , M.Honeychurch (FWD) )

RUC: N.Naitanui , T.Nankervis ( B.Brown , D.Currie )

FWD: B.Harvey (MID) , D.Martin (MID) , L.Franklin , D.Zorko (MID) , J.Hogan , L.Taylor (MID) ( D.Garlett , S.Kersten )

    yurkins · 01/02/2014 at 13:16

    not sure man are thinking Ruck 11 plus 3 rookies in the ruck but the NAB might change that.

WombatsFC · 24/01/2014 at 16:11

The Dreamteam opened today vastly different pricing structure and interface has changed. You can create your own jumper in photoshop and upload it which is fun.

    throttlefinger · 24/01/2014 at 22:57

    Was thinking of doing AFL Fantasy this year but think I will lose focus on SC. You do both, Wombats?

      WombatsFC · 24/01/2014 at 23:03

      Good choice mate it's crap. A single interface for desktop, tablet & phone that has been designed specifically for touchscreens. It's like html5 and CSS3 were never invented.
      Plus after a zillion years with the same team name I pre-registered the day I received the email and when I logged in today they've called my team Wombats-2, FC.

      Shouldn't you be working mate?
      Where in USA are you?

        throttlefinger · 24/01/2014 at 23:23

        New York City. Just starting my Friday.

        Good to know about DT. Just keep focus on my two SC leagues. Sure that will give me enough fits. Thanks, Wombats.

          WombatsFC · 24/01/2014 at 23:31

          Seriously?
          I played for the NY Magpies in 2001 and lived on Park Ave south between 19th & 20th Streets.

          Have you been to any Magpies functions?

            throttlefinger · 24/01/2014 at 23:43

            Ha! No way! What's the NY Magpies? (I'll look up). I work on Park Ave S and 26th. Live in Brooklyn.

            No I haven't. I'm a Tigers fan and silent GWS supporter (started watching footy again when they entered the league so my aussie buddy said naturally that's the team I should root for). Where are Pies functions held?

            WombatsFC · 24/01/2014 at 23:44

            They have a great Australia Day Event
            http://nyfooty.com/site/

Ash · 24/01/2014 at 17:00

Hey guys any feedback on my team?
Def: Mitchell, hibberd, swallow, seedsman, McDonald, koladaninsji cutler, fuller
Mids: Pendles, Cotchin, ziebell, Murphy, beams, Martin, aish, polec, dunstan, Hartlett
Ruck: minson, longer, appeness, nankervis
Fwd: dangerfield, wingard, Parker, Dixon, lamb, Taylor, kennedyharris, honey church

Thanks guys

    WombatsFC · 24/01/2014 at 22:51

    Remember Pendles v Crowley round 1

    IMO you need another premium defender and should probably only rely on 2 rookies at the most in any position especially the mids (most points scored here).

    Apart from that I like your team; I also think cotchin is going to start like a bull and Murph & Beams will dominate. You could also consider Thomas or Carrazzo from Carlton as underpriced midfielders who will score well and go up in price (probably as much as Martin in the first 3-weeks

    theazzyg · 30/01/2014 at 22:02

    Seedsman just had an injury set back so i would watch for when he returns

WombatsFC · 24/01/2014 at 22:57

Hi Community.
I overcame my paranoia and finally registered with a discussion thingy. Sadly my name 'Wombats' had been taken so I've had to add the FC.
No Jock the 'FC' is not an anagram for how Adelaide supporters describe Kurt Tippett it means Fat Chicks. Us Wombats are a bit chunky ourselves and we like a bit of cushion when we're pushin if ya know what I mean.

Got a new Jumper this Year feedback appreciated.

    taylorwoof · 25/01/2014 at 15:40

    Looks good Wombats! Just signed up as well.

WombatsFC · 24/01/2014 at 23:28

I'm considering starting Ablett & Pendlebury and I was worried about Crowley's influence on Pendle last year (96) Pies have Freo, Swans, Cats first up.
So, I checked l/y and discovered he scored 119 & 150 against the Swans and 118 against the cats . Plus, he now averages 109 against Freo and 115 against the cats but only 98 against Sydney.
If he scores his average against the opponents in his first 3 games he'll only average 107.
What impact will an ave of 107 after 3 rounds have on his price?

    throttlefinger · 24/01/2014 at 23:48

    Gotta tell ya Wombats, I'm having a hard time figuring out M1-2. My mind tells me that Gazza-Pendles 1-2 is the way to go. Steady scorers and don't have to overthink Captain each week, esp with the loop.

    But your numbers (as well as their prices) are giving me fits, man. I got Gazza Round 6 and Pendles Round 5 last season. Conventional thinking is that every round you leave out one of the other, you're missing out on easy SC points (as well as reliable captain scores).

    107 will have an effect, as his value is based around him averaging 125 or so. Not good. But will Crowley be in full form that early?

      yurkins · 28/01/2014 at 18:01

      If GAJ and pendles average 107 each for the first few weeks I'Il bare me bum in bourke st boys! :O
      And whilst that would no doubt be the highlight of our SC season 2014 I don't think it will occur.

      I LOVE the stats and previous games against meta data analysis ideas but it begs to be overturned and is, particularly with a solid preseason and early season game with a fit Elite player of the ilk of GAJ and pendles.

      Leave them out at first bounce at your own peril.

        throttlefinger · 28/01/2014 at 21:07

        It is probably too risky of move to leave them both out, Yurkins. Toying with the notion but it may be time to put the toys away.

dominique31t.edublogs.org · 25/01/2014 at 02:09

You may even be surprised at how much you are willing to tax
vat belgium others quickly but seem to neglect their own
tax concessions. It was From the bank, back To the Directors Loan Account.
The 1 per cent to 20 per cent rate.

SCMania · 25/01/2014 at 08:21

Ryder or Leuenberger?

    Dools · 25/01/2014 at 10:27

    Leuenberger I think mate Not a fan of Ryder at all

      SCMania · 25/01/2014 at 18:32

      Cheers, with TBell out what do you think of Ryder Dools?

    throttlefinger · 25/01/2014 at 12:03

    Ryder may give you some decent scores for a couple rounds but Leuy will serve you right the season.

    yurkins · 28/01/2014 at 18:04

    Mad on Ryder to get off to a flyer with no big bellchambers moonbooted for 3-4 games. I got him in to aim at an upgrade to whoever is best of the big guys at the bye games.

scooter · 25/01/2014 at 09:41

Hi guys Wat do you think as I’m struggling to get a straight answer from my 3 year old daughter leuy Mundy and Sam Shaw or h Mac gaz and suckling do have Dixon in fwd with thurlow in r4 so coverage is there

    taylorwoof · 25/01/2014 at 15:44

    As much as i'm a David Mundy fan, i'd go the latter – G.A, Suckling & McIntosh.

    KLo · 26/01/2014 at 16:30

    Question is, who is your captain round 1, and why?
    Leuy and Mundy safe, Shaw back from injury.
    Gaz superstar. HMac and Suckling back from injury.
    How quick the scores return from injury vs Superstar captain lock.

      taylorwoof · 26/01/2014 at 17:18

      With the 'split round' there are plenty of options for Round 1 Captain. Boils down to what players you have in your initial squad, and whether you have the option to use the VC Loophole – if one of your players doesn't start Round 1.

      No doubt a popular option will be VC on Pendles/Swan/Beams/Barlow/Fyfe on the Friday night, then option to roll with the loophole or slap the C on Gaz the next night.

Blueprime · 25/01/2014 at 14:40

Gaz

Steve · 25/01/2014 at 16:02

Afternoon all,

Here's my team – rookies to be monitored over the NAB Cup etc.

DEF : Mitchell, Bartel, McVeigh, McKenzie, Kolodjashnij, McDonald (Laidler, Fuller)

MID : Pendlebury, Dangerfield, Cotchin, Murphy, Polec, J Martin, Tyson, Michie (Dunstan, Honeychurch)

RUC : Mumford, Sandilands (Nankervis, Thurlow)

FWD : Martin, Franklin, Wingard, Gunstan, Billings, Kersten (Garlett Taylor)

Cheers,

Steve

    yurkins · 28/01/2014 at 18:09

    OK
    Concerns; McKenzie & Billings (injury issue) Use money to bolster your mid line.
    I prefer Thurlow in the fwd line to offer a DPP to that line to ruck.
    Why do you have Danger in the mids? FWD lock.
    Really hone your eye for low price rookies. Particularity in the mids.
    Risky mummy and Sandi for me but could be made to eat those words.

WombatsFC · 25/01/2014 at 17:30

I reckon I've locked the backline (bookies pending) and 4 of the mids the rest is still pretty flexible

DEF: Bartell, Mitchell, Hodge, Hanley, Suckling, rook,rook,rook
MID: Gaz, Pendle, Rockliff, Cotchin, Murphy, Beams, Thomas -rook,rook,rook
RUC: Grundy, Sandi, rook rook
Fwd: Dixon, Buddy, Vardy,?????

    throttlefinger · 25/01/2014 at 19:13

    REALLY stout back line, Wombats. Man, you're not taking any chances. Can't knock that.

    Like the Rockliff call as POD at M3. He's a gun. M1-7 is solid as steel. Concerns are you need a solid R3 (Longer would be cheapest). Even though you have Dixon, he's the anchor of your forwards. Sandi gets hurt and you swing him…who is going to replace those points up front? Apeness? Thurlow? Think that the line that rucks need to be secure from the start is right. Or I agree with it. Lack of DPPs for that.

    Also, Vardy as F3 is a bit of a risk. Parker or Titch or even Zorko. Suggest another mid swing would can bring you some points. Or sacrificing one of your mids to bulk up your forwards. I've been looking at Hunter or Lamb to help fill in the rest. Other than Hogan, don't think they'll be lots of R1 rooks on the field. Never know. Think until NAB, we won't know how many in any position will get chosen. I'm going conservative by planning only 6 on the field. Probably change. But plan for worst, hope for best.

    Hope my ramblings help, Wombats.

      WombatsFC · 25/01/2014 at 22:34

      Thanks Throttle.
      Perhaps after a few hours at the NY maggies Australia Day celebration you'll come home and turn on the computer and appraise my team again whilst marinating in Coopers ale, Four'n'Twenty Pies and Rosella Tomato sauce. Whilst you are in this Australiana induced trance you may have an epiphany and see my team as the SC equivalent of GAJ. Or you might just spew on the keyboard:-)

      You'll see from my other responses that I believe that there was only 1 hole and i covered that by dropping Cotchin for an underpriced mid/for.

        throttlefinger · 25/01/2014 at 22:42

        HAHA. I do love Coopers ale and love the sound of the other two, Wombats. I'll try to check it out. Do the NY Magpies have a site?

        Love your confidence in the lineup and Vardy. With the ruck setup, strong plummers will be needed. I'm about 80% confident in my structure. Sure it will all get shattered to bits once NAB starts and R1 selects are named.

          WombatsFC · 25/01/2014 at 22:57

          http://nyfooty.com/site/

            throttlefinger · 25/01/2014 at 23:04

            Nice! Thanks. If I can wiggle away from my Brooklyn home tonight, I'll swing by.

            Did you ever go to the Sheepstation in Park Slope? That where I usually go to watch the GF.

              WombatsFC · 25/01/2014 at 23:19

              Nah the only time I left the Island was to go my GF's place at Bedford hills. I had a charmed life my best mate was CEO of BOSS Models and my flatmate was a former lead singer 1970's NYC Glam Rock band Madison Eyes. I was out 7 nights VIP everywhere and never paid for anything it's no wonder I only played 1 game for the maggies.

                throttlefinger · 25/01/2014 at 23:25

                Yes my man, that is a charmed life. And the best way to experience NYC…at maximum speed and minimal cost. Left those years about 10 years ago. Kids and family wife strips out all your top gears. Doubt I would be functionally otherwise.

                  throttlefinger · 25/01/2014 at 23:56

                  Congrats Wombats. You've shaken me out of my Gaz/Pendles stupor. And honestly, if I'd been knocking back the lagers while doing the reconsidering rather than at work, the silly notion wouldn't have been broached.

                  Gaz/Pendles/JPK/Beams/Shuey/Daisy/rook/rook or Polec.

                  You've earned your Coopers for the evening, my man (or your 8th Coopers).

            WombatsFC · 25/01/2014 at 23:06

            It looks like a much smaller event these days. We used to hire a pier on the river and have a day/night party with a live band, DJ and bbq. Also used to sell out the Park Ave Country Club for the Grand Final telecast, that's probably held in a diner nowadays.

              throttlefinger · 25/01/2014 at 23:28

              No THAT sounds better than what's going on tonight…although it's cold as a witch's nip right now. Will need to check it out next GF…although hard to live the B past midnight. Old man now, Wombats.

    taylorwoof · 25/01/2014 at 20:02

    I think that lineup may leave you very skimp for spending on the rookies once they present themselves in NAB Series…..unless they're all bargain basement price (we could only wish! hahaha).

    Also as Throttle mentioned below, if Sandi goes down (no mozz) and you swing Dixon into the rucks….then you'll be left quite exposed in the Forward with Buddy as F1 and Vardy F2.

    As much as i love that juggernaut midfield! Perhaps trim it down a little and inject some more coin into the forward line?

      WombatsFC · 25/01/2014 at 22:23

      Thanks for the advice Woofie but I reckon I've found the perfect mix of rookies based on last years performances, list changes and subsequent team requirements; hence my apprehension to post them on the interweb thing.
      I was a bit light so I swapped Cotchin for a $450-$500k (currently Chappy) to give me a few $ in the bank.

    jimbotraralgon · 25/01/2014 at 21:42

    Hey wombat mate.

    Love the aggressive defense and mid lineup.

    But just doing the maths you only have like 2 million for your last 13 players @ $150k approx. Thst cuts it a bit thin mate.

      WombatsFC · 25/01/2014 at 22:18

      Hey Jimbo,
      I can't give away all my secrets mate but it don't cut too thin if you ignore poor investment options like 18 y.o. unproven players in their first year who cost more than players who have been in the system for a year or two & have been playing senior football at a high level.
      They love Vardy at the Cats for a very good reason and I think you'll see why this year. It's his first full pre-season, there's no Jpod, and THawk has a prolapsed disc that could debilitate him at any moment. If sandi goes down before the intended trade Vardy can cover for him and I'll bring in a Caddy or Clark or something .

      I have swapped Cotchin for Chapman atmo but could be any of 4 around that price.
      The game is won & lost on setting a base and trading so an extra 80k in bank will come in handy

wallsa · 25/01/2014 at 20:45

DEF: J. McVeigh, S. Mitchell, K. Simpson, K. Kolodjashnij, L. McDonald, J. Tippett (T. Cutler, M. Fuller)
MID: S. Pendlebury, T. Rockliff, T. Liberatore, M. Murphy, D. Beams, J. Martin, D. Sheed, L. Dunstan (A. Morabito, J. O'Rourke)
RUC: T. Goldstein, N. Naitanui (F. Thurlow, T. Nankervis)
FWD: P. Dangerfield, D. Martin, L. Franklin, L. Parker, B. Lennon, D. Garlett (J. Kennedy-Harris, L. Taylor)
CASH LEFT: $2,400

Any feedback appreciated.

    jimbotraralgon · 25/01/2014 at 21:14

    Nice side mate.

    I will say to all that ask….pick gary. He will be top 3. I know the money looks tempting but you dont make the points back spending it elsewhere.

    Ok, enough if the rant.

    Might be one rookie too many in defence perhaps?

    WombatsFC · 25/01/2014 at 22:46

    Hi Wallsa I have to agree with Jimbo about GAJ. Maybe you can re-think your rucks and pinch a few dollars.
    I have the philosophy that 'rookies are for making dollars not for scoring points' so whenever I see more than 3 in the best 22 I think points are being leaked.

    ShinbonerSpirit · 30/01/2014 at 12:58

    Joel Tippett is rookie listed.

jimbotraralgon · 25/01/2014 at 21:05

Version 6. Welcome jack darling and zorko (on jock’s advice….not convinced)

I am $400 short of getting michie rather than dunstan. Ideas?

Def: J.McVeigh S.Mitchell D.Swallow M.Suckling K.Kolodjashnij L.McDonald ( J.Laidler M.Fuller )Mid: G.Ablett S.Pendlebury M.Murphy D.Beams D.Thomas J.Martin C.Beams J.Polec ( L.Dunstan J.O’Rourke )Ruc: N.Naitanui A.Sandilands ( F.Thurlow T.Nankervis )Fwd: P.Dangerfield C.Dixon L.Franklin D.Zorko J.Darling S.Kersten ( L.Taylor D.Garlett )Salary Cap Remaining: $46,500

    WombatsFC · 25/01/2014 at 22:55

    Yeah I reckon Jock mighta been gettin worried after seeing all the brilliant teams we're posting here, so he's throwing up hot coals like Zorko & Darling.

    Nice team mate but I don't see the point in Swallow why not just spend the extra 75k and get Hodgy and an extra 20 points? I'm not convinced NicNat will last as long as Sandi so you should have a look at Bellchambers or another ruc/for who will get a regular game.
    Dangerfield: Last year I said no no no he ALWAYS starts like a 1920's tractor but I eventually succumbed to the peer pressure and after 3 he ave 84 and dropped 53k follwed by another 15k the next week. So I say dump Danger and grab chappy then after week 4 make the even swap.

      throttlefinger · 26/01/2014 at 00:08

      Agree with Wombats about NicNat. Swallow I think may be a worthwhile risk given the GCS glut of mids gaining attention. Could bring in some strong scores. Hodge is certainly a safer bet.

      I'm planning on Suckling not coming out firing hot. Thinking of using Buntine instead. Limited play but did well when he got in there. Plus, GWS has a less than daunting start. With Heath grabbing most of the attention back there he could throw some nice score up. Enough to make for a quick, easy upgrade before the Giants embark on another adventure to the spoon.

      Wombats' Danger theory is certainly backed up. But I think with Van Berlo out, he's going to come out with a little more purpose. But the Batter's plan could be a very cunning starting move.

    KLo · 26/01/2014 at 16:22

    Cutler for Laidler in the Backs frees up the cash for Michie for Dunstan.

      SCMania · 26/01/2014 at 16:34

      Dunstan will play junta as much as Michie and is 40k cheaper.

        Zimmer · 30/01/2014 at 12:24

        Just a heads up, re. Wombat's mention of Bellchambers. He's out with an ankle until at least Round 5, and maybe longer, unfortunately.

WombatsFC · 25/01/2014 at 23:28

OK so what is the community opinion of the VOMITRON (Bleasey)?
Will he start? Will he be subbed? Will he be the first player that gets suspended for spewing on his opponent?
I reckon he's a guaranteed starter under Roosy, he loves a bloke that runs until he spews and no one does it as much as Sam.

    taylorwoof · 25/01/2014 at 23:40

    Agree re Roosy's affection for the red head. The kid can play too, just needs confidence & backing from the coaching staff and regular games (Play him Paul).

    Watching him closely in the NAB Series first. With the lack of obvious fwd rookies, he's on my radar. Also carries DPP.

    throttlefinger · 25/01/2014 at 23:53

    Funny you ask that (and funny as hell how you said it). I was rooting around for recent info on the Bleaser. Nuts. Good numbers in the past. Have him slotted as an F6 option. Sincerely hope Roos is alchemist and can turn his spew into SC gold.

      Dools · 26/01/2014 at 17:13

      Had bleasly, Then we both got sick Naw never again Ican still taste it in my mouth….

        throttlefinger · 26/01/2014 at 22:49

        Even if Roos can teach him to swallow, Dools?

          Dools · 28/01/2014 at 11:47

          Hahahah! Good one TF

SCMania · 26/01/2014 at 15:22

Just a few questions to finalise my team for the moment.

Which 2 out of Mitchell, Bartel, McVeigh?

Is Jack Martin a must have?

Jack or Watson?

Morabito or Crouch?

Kennedy-Harris or Honeychurch?

Is having Kersten, Billings and Garlett on the field altogether too risky?

That's about it. Cheers!

    KLo · 26/01/2014 at 15:43

    Almost all questions are difficult to answer before NAB and Round 1 selections, but here goes:
    1. Mitchell and Bartel. McVeigh question marks over 2013 being an outlier year
    2. J Martin is not a must have. Research scores to enable price rise comparable to cheaper rookies.
    3. Watson has less (internal) competition compared to Jack, but both worthy
    4. Morabito unlikely to play early rounds and Matt Crouch is a lottery also. Brad Crouch on the other hand is a corker.
    5. Kennedy-Harris and Honeychurch are both less than 50% chance of early action (monitor NAB).
    6. see point 5, though Billings probably higher %.

      SCMania · 26/01/2014 at 16:15

      Cheers KLo, I already have my NAB Cup Watchlist all ready, it will definitely change things up but thanks for the advice for now.

        taylorwoof · 26/01/2014 at 18:13

        1. I agree with KLo
        2. Not sure re Jack Martin. Though i have him starting in my midfield. I think it's better to have him in there, and then if he doesn't appear to be living up to the hype….then replacing him with a cheaper rookie will be easy campesee. Leaving him out, then having to squeeze him in later if he performs well could be quite difficult.
        3. It'd lean to Watson>Jack, but both valid selections in any midfield. I have time for both of them.
        4. I'd lean M.Crouch>Morabito. Morabito coming off numerous knee op's and trying to break into a Grand Final side. M.Crouch may get early opportunity with the likes of Van Berlo sidelined.
        5. Don't know much about both Kennedy-Harris or Honeychurch, so i'll pass on that question.
        6. At the moment starting all three risky? I think so, yet it is early doors. Being a hawks supporter i think Jed Anderson is in front of Gartlett to get the early games in Rioli's absence due to suspension.

Jai · 26/01/2014 at 17:16

DEF: J Bartel, J McVeigh, P Hanley, M Suckling, K Kolodjashnij, L McDonald, (M Fuller, T Cutler)

MID: K Jack, N Fyfe, T Cotchin, M Murphy, D Beams, D Thomas, J Martin, J Aish (A Morabito, D Garlett)

RUC: T Goldstein, (& one of F Thurlow, M Apeness or T Nankervis)

FWD: P Dangerfield, D Martin, J Roughead, L Franklin, B Lennon, L Taylor (M Honeychurch, S Kersten)

A few questions/points:

Was tossing up between J McVeigh and S Mitchell – feel like this may be Mitchells last season and output may drop? (Could be wrong there) but McVeigh has been consistent (hasnt averaged below 93 since 2007)…

Rucks – will Thurlow, Apeness or Nankervis get much game time early? If so, which one? I was thinking Thurlow now that Bellchambers is out for a few months…

Will S Kersten or B Lennon get more gametime in the first 8 or so rounds?

Also interested to hear thoughts on starting with Morabito in the side? Or should we wait until a few rounds in as a downgrade target?

    PJ8 · 29/01/2014 at 11:29

    Nice Jai, really like the PODs in the Midfield. No Pendles, GAJ, Selwood, Watson (which most are selecting). Having Jack, Fyfe, Cotchin instead may get you ahead of everyone else.

    Im going with Mitchell rather than McVeigh, but much of a muchness at the start of the year, I think both will be in the top 6 DEF's so will be in most sides by the end.

    With answers to the other 2 questions, its going to just be 'wait and see' watch the NAB games closely for all these rookies.

    Morabito – Lyon has already come out and said he will play WAFL at the start of the season

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AGH · 27/01/2014 at 20:16

Hey guys. Here's my team. Any feedback is much appreciated

DEF: Bartel, Hanley, Henderson, Docherty, K.Kolodjashnij, McDonald (Fuller, Cutler)

MID: Ablett, Pendlebury, J.Selwood, Rockliff, Murphy, D.Beams, J.Martin, Aish (Dunstan, Morabito)

RUCK: Naitanui, Sandilands (B.Brown, Nankervis)

FWD: Dangerfield, Dixon, Franklin, Apeness, Markworth, Taylor (Garlett, Honeychurch)

Thanks

    taylorwoof · 28/01/2014 at 13:00

    Hey AGH!

    My only concern would be Apeness & Markworth as starters, other than that appears a very nice team. A very strong midfield. Rucks are potentially a risk, both coming back from injuries…but i believe you have to take a risk in one department and for you it's the rucks. Few small POD's in Henderson & Rocky.

    Good job mate!

      AGH · 28/01/2014 at 15:06

      Thanks mate

sean · 28/01/2014 at 02:21

here is my team(first draft) any thoughts?

Hanley, Pearce (MID) $516,200
Bartel, Jimmy (MID) $572,500
Grimes, Jack (MID) $436,500
Swallow, David (MID) $429,400
Docherty, Sam $285,000
Fuller, Matthew $117,300
Kolodjashnij, Kade $197,300
McDonald, Luke (MID) $182,300
MIDFIELDERS
Dangerfield, Patrick (FWD) $609,000
Cotchin, Trent $572,000
Rockliff, Tom $591,500
Thomas, Dale $341,800
Beams, Dayne $497,200
Gaff, Andrew $383,500
Ablett, Gary $695,000
Tyson, Dom $216,800
Dunstan, Luke $132,300
Morabito, Anthony $123,900
RUCKS
Sandilands, Aaron $310,700
Longer, Billy $279,100
Nankervis, Toby $117,300
Brown, Ben (FWD) $117,300
FORWARDS
Riewoldt, Nick $567,100
Franklin, Lance $487,700
Rohan, Gary $176,200
Zorko, Dayne (MID) $447,200
Caddy, Josh (MID) $325,300
Garlett, Dayle (MID) $117,300
Kersten, Shane $123,900
Taylor, Lewis (MID) $117,300

    yurkins · 28/01/2014 at 18:18

    plenty of punts on mid priced players here. Grimes Docherty Franklin, caddy zorko Thomas beams. Perhaps it's genius perhaps too risky, its your call.

SCMania · 28/01/2014 at 07:16

Brandon Ellis, Dale Thomas, Dayne Zorko or Andrew Gaff?

    throttlefinger · 28/01/2014 at 08:51

    I'm leaning towards Ellis, SCMania. Daisy I'm may slot in as well. Tiges man so I may be biased, but think he's rearing to go gangbusters this season.

      SCMania · 28/01/2014 at 10:53

      Cheers.

        throttlefinger · 28/01/2014 at 11:22

        Cotchin will be upping his game. Martin will be floating around the defense. 3rd object of attention will be Lids. Meaning, Ellis won't ever get a tag. Daisy will get attention. Zorko, who knows if he's gonna play mid or forward. Gaff…maybe but Shuey would be a better (and more expensive) option.

        Right now I'm highly considering him my M5.

          taylorwoof · 28/01/2014 at 13:04

          What are your thoughts on Shuey guys?

          Over the past few days i have been toying with the idea of starting him over M.Murphy. Though i keep finding my hand is being a little forced to select Murphy due to his reduced starting price…..

            taylorwoof · 28/01/2014 at 13:12

            Dale Thomas has been in & out of my side quite a few times SCMania.

            To me, he's one that solely depends on what type of midfield structure you plan on running with. Currently i'm with a 4-0-4 midfield (but no doubt this will changes plenty of times pre Rnd 1).

            throttlefinger · 28/01/2014 at 21:13

            Shuey has been in and out of my side. What I like: favorable WCE draw. Healthy team. Guy can ball. What I don't: Unpredictable. Could come back in same form.

            Murph is not that much more expensive, but I'm resisting because I don't think he's going to come out bonkers, T-Woof. Plus, I think everyone will have him in their side. Don't mind that we all have Beams. But Murph too is a bit too much of a Xerox.

              taylorwoof · 28/01/2014 at 21:50

              Unpredictability, yes! That's what worries me. Ability to go bang 130 one week, then down to 65-70 the next. Smaller standard deviation the better. Though that was a reason why i didn't go with Rocky last season and i got that one wrong.

              "Plus, I think everyone will have him in their side. Don't mind that we all have Beams. But Murph too is a bit too much of a Xerox."

              Couldn't agree more Throttle! Hence, the reason why i'm looking at other possible options. As Higgo would say "Like the Lemmings" Hahahaha….

                throttlefinger · 28/01/2014 at 21:55

                Right now here's who I'm considering for that "Murph" position: Shuey, Treloar, Crouch and Ellis. Leaning toward Brandon. May even try to work in two of them. Think they could result in quick upgrades, which may be needed if rooks don't deliver on value by R7.

                  taylorwoof · 28/01/2014 at 22:13

                  All four are very talented, any of them breaking out this season wouldn't surprise me at all! All valid picks i believe. Brad Crouch, that kid is going to be a star!

                  I also looked at the likes of a Toby Greene & Dylan Shiel as well. If Toby has learnt to shake a tag, he could be a steal. Averaged 94.5 in his first year (2012), then as a result of his impressive debut year he copped heavy tags last year. His SC average was heavily affected averaging 73.1. I guess you could put Andy Gaff in the same category. But those two probably better M5 options than M4.

                    throttlefinger · 28/01/2014 at 22:24

                    Shiels I haven't been too taken with but agree with you on Greene. Last year was a big learning experience. Could be a nice pick if he shows it in preseason. Already have two GWS on my team (Buntine and Lamb). They will be better but not good enough to keep for the year. All GWS players should be seen as upgrade material. Maybe Treloar is the exception. Mummy if he's owning the #1 ruck in pre-Pyke season fashion.

                    Have been slotting Gaff in the M5 area. That is if Daisy doesn't pan out. Not sure if I have the plums to put two $300K players in the lineup.

                    taylorwoof · 28/01/2014 at 22:32

                    Agree with you there, probably only other two would be Ward & Shaw (but won't be going near either).

                    Hahaha…..that would require 'Massive' Plums!

                    Starting a Toby Greene or Andy Gaff over Dale Thomas (Mr Popular), and Thomas flops & one of the former shine….would be a very nice leg up on most of the competition.

                    throttlefinger · 28/01/2014 at 22:46

                    I agree! And if Daisy looks stellar, can make a corrective trade quickly.

                    Been toying with Grigg as well. Only 5 games last season but a nice 85 av. Worth a look. Need to be sold on Gaff. Greene wouldn't be as hard as I think he won't be getting tagged as hard as last year. We'll see.

          yurkins · 28/01/2014 at 18:19

          Loving both in my mids at present. Ellis and Daisy.

          Dools · 28/01/2014 at 23:06

          Sorry t jump in
          but are youse 2 seriously thinking of missing out on a massive leg up the trade ladder????
          All this talk about players who can perform over one that can?
          I think if Smurf and Daisey are not in your Mid line up at this stage “The boat is sailing and thse people on board are waving “Not drowning”” Also If every one has them guy’s why are you looking elsewhere? I get the POD’s I get the Potential what I don’t get is here is a Bona Fida thing and you are convincing your self that the Land ahead is not there because it ain’t on the map! I’m lost. Daisey is no Keeper but a short cut to lets say ..whomever you desire, too cheap and too good to pass up just like Beams. You know that if this was about beams …..’sorry lads my 2 cents back to the beer for me

            throttlefinger · 28/01/2014 at 23:13

            Daisy you're probably right, Dools. Not convinced about Murph. Gonna roll the dice on Shuey, Ellis or Treloar. Sure Murph will get the hard tag off the go against PTA, Tiges and Bombers.

            throttlefinger · 28/01/2014 at 23:22

            Also about Daisy. Don't discount him coming back at full strength. Serious eg injuries take some time to recover from, both physically and mentally. He'll be worried about that wheel for the first couple rounds for sure. Don't think it will result in scores lower than 80, but he may not come out gangbusters as assumed. And Blues don't have an easy road out of the gate, Dools. Food for thought, my lager learned friend.

          Dools · 29/01/2014 at 00:19

          Ahh my friend, This is what makes champions. Me thinks that a horrible draw for the blues is what will knit the mids to-gether ..I have been wrong in the past buddy but I do know a good SC player when it’s shoved in my face…But as you say I may have erred but I don’t think so .. Too Cheap, Too good ,No beams Swan Dependlbereye …Hmmmm Now with Carazzo, Judd, Murphy do you think it has changed? Anywho I’m off to bed matey so I will persue this in the morning Austrailian time mate Good to hear from you and hope the wife is not allowed to watch the footy lol . the last whiskey has really put me to sleep old man so toodle pip me ol’ China

Watto · 28/01/2014 at 14:18

Hey guys, any thoughts/feedback would be greatly appreciated

DEF: Bartel, Mitchell, Hodge, Hibberd, Kolodjashnij, Laidler, (Cutler, Fuller)

MID: Pendles, Cotchin, Murphy, Beams, Martin, Aish, McDonald, Moribito, (o'Rourke, Taylor)

RUC: Lobbe, Grundy, (Sandi, Nankervis)

FWD: Danger, Roughy, Buddy, Zorko, Hogan, Rohan (Garlett, Honeychurch)

$66,300 remaining

    taylorwoof · 28/01/2014 at 14:49

    G'day Watto!

    That's one beast of a forward line, that could come out all guns blazing from the get go!

    POD in defense with Hibberd, always good to have a few POD's in your side.

    My only concern would be the midfield. Going in with 4-0-4 and no Ablett is quite ballsy. At the moment, i have the exact same structure 4-0-4, but with Ablett, Pendles, Murphy, Beams. My thinking is, with Gaz in there as well gives you two Captain options (VC Loophole) along with the extra scoring power.

yurkins · 28/01/2014 at 18:22

Loving backs B1-4..
Nice DPPs in your mids. Though long on rookies. but hey its where the money is gunna be made.
Im not a fan of the 3 pronged ruck device but plenty love it.
Good structure but has its risks. 🙂

Robert · 28/01/2014 at 22:26

My team

DEF: J.McVeigh S.Mitchell M.Suckling T.Mckenzie K.Kolodjashnij L.Mcdonald (J.laidler M.Fuller)

MID: G.Ablett S.Pendlebury J.Selwood D.Beams D.Thomas J.Aish V.Michie L.Dunstal ( A.Morabito M.Crouch)

RUCK: M.Lobbe A.Sandilands ( F.Thurlow T.Nankervis

FWD: P.Dangerfield C.Wingard J.Roughead C.Dixon G.Rohan D.Garlett ( M.Honeycurch L.Taylor)

I have 128,800 left and have no clue what to do with it!

Any suggestions?

    Jack Michaels · 29/01/2014 at 00:43

    Personally i wold upgrade dixon to Dusty Martin!

    PJ8 · 29/01/2014 at 11:53

    Robert, solid line up. Pretty safe selections with your premiums.

    DEF – McVeigh and Mitchell solid, will be 95+ players
    Im hoping the Suckling will avg. 85+ and make some quick money.
    Mckenzie is not in full training yet due to injury so just moniter that.

    MID – Good premiums
    Morabito is going to play WAFL first, Not sure Michie will play form start of the year.

    RUCK/FWD – Solid, with Sandi its good you have Dixon with the DPP link.

    Just wait and see on the rookies now. With the left over coin I would just leave it now until you have to change a few rookies that might not play rd1 and use it if others are slightly more expensive

      Robert · 29/01/2014 at 12:04

      Thanks alot PJ8 This helps alot

rhino · 28/01/2014 at 23:11

Is there any chance someone could tell me exactly how the captain loophole works, in simple terms? I’m normally taking AFL fantasy a bit more seriously but I’m moving to supercoach this year, thanks.

    throttlefinger · 29/01/2014 at 02:46

    Essentially you're getting two chances to pick the right captain.

    Here's how it works using Ablett and Pendles as an example. Say Pies are playing on Friday night. You put a VC on Pendles. You then take someone on your team who will both NOT play this round and is not playing in the same game and bring him in. You make this non-playing player your Captain and put an Emergency on the player you moved to the reserves who he is replacing. If Pendles goes for 130-140+ and you don't think Gazza will do better, you leave everything as is. Because your "Captain" is not playing, the VC gets the captain points.

    Now if Pendles goes for 110 and you know Ablett will do better, you switch your Captain from the non-player who hasn't played yet to Ablett. Then you'll get his points. Sooner you do this the better.

    The key to doing the loop is making sure the players you're choosing are not playing at the same time or that their games don't overlap.

    Hope that helps, Rhino.

Jack Michaels · 29/01/2014 at 00:33

DEF –
McVeigh, Jarrad (MID) $572500
Birchall, Grant $496600
Bartel, Jimmy (MID) $572500
Docherty, Sam $285000
Kolodjashnij, Kade $197300
Gardiner, Darcy $117300
(McDonald, Luke (MID) $182300, Fuller, Matthew $117300)
MID –
Cotchin, Trent $572000
Fyfe, Nathan $574300
Murphy, Marc $498300
Pendlebury, Scott $683100
Beams, Dayne $497200
Aish, James $187300
Martin, Jack $222300
Tyson, Dom $216800
(O'Rourke, Jonathan $123900 Beams, Claye $183400)
RUCK-
Kreuzer, Matthew $527900
Longer, Billy $279100
(Nankervis, Toby $117300, Lobb, Rory $117300)
FWD-
Dangerfield, Patrick (MID) $609000
Martin, Dustin (MID) $549200
Hogan, Jesse $217300
Lamb, Jed $244500
Roughead, Jarryd $531300
Kersten, Shane $123900
(Taylor, Lewis (MID) $117300, Garlett, Dayle (MID) $117300)

I have 149,200k left in the bank! Would just like to hear your guys thoughts on my rookies! not sure about O'rourke and kersten!

    PJ8 · 29/01/2014 at 12:22

    Jack, few good selections there.

    Birchall – like this, lots are overlooking him. Always been a 90+ point player. Last years scores clearly were effected by injury after a flying start. Avg. 120 after 4 rounds for memory.

    Cothin & Fyfe – again being overlooked. Hopefully they can both lift their avg to 115+ this season.

    Longer – Not sure about him, Hickey has the no.1 spot at the moment at StK. If he plays might be limited gametime behind Hickey. You could look at Longer being your R3 and downgrade elsewhere (maybe Kruz to someone cheaper like Grundy) to fit a different R2 in.

    FWD's seem a little light, will just have to hope those rookies play.

Dools · 29/01/2014 at 00:34

Ok . you pick a great player on a as a Vice captain- Fri / Sat game as a “Could be really really good’…It has now paid off with a score of lets say 150. that player has just doubled your score If you have a non playing captian the 150 is the captains score… Last year was either IMO Gary Ablett or Pendleberry as the 2 men hardley ever appered on the same day. This year is different however but if you look at the fixtures you can work it out … If Your VC scores well pick a lemon that you know will not play ..otherwise his score will count as the captains. Bugger it happpened to me more then once

Farnzy · 29/01/2014 at 13:37

DEF: McVeigh, Mitchell, Simpson, Suckling, K. Kolodjashnij, L. McDonald (Fuller, Laidler)
MID: Watson, Cotchin, Scooter, Murphy, D. Beams, Daisy, J. Martin, C. Beams (Dunstan, M. Crouch)
RUC: McIntosh, Sandilands (Longer, Nankervis)
FWD: Dangerfield, D. Martin, Franklin, Zorko, Lennon, L. Taylor (D. Garlett, Honeychurch)

Luke · 29/01/2014 at 14:04

Hey guys, put this team together using the dreamteam page. keen to know your thoughts. Gone midfield heavy, and hoping my rookies generate some cash early. Giving Sam Mitchell a miss initially as he has Crowley in round 3(if i remember correctly).

DEF: J. McViegh, A. Walker, M. Suckling, K, Kolodjashnij, M. Fuller, L. McDonald (T. Cutler, J. Laider)

MID: G. Ablett, S. Pendlebury, K. Jack, D. Beams, D. Mundy, M. Murphy, D. Tyson, J. Aish (X. Ellis, V. Michie)

RUCK: B. Grundy, T. Hickey (A. Sandilands, F. Thurlow)

FWD: P. Dangerfield, C. Wingard, L. Parker, L. Franklin, R. Nahas, D. Garlett (M. Clark, L. Taylor)

will no doubt tweak it some more, but will see how we go. got around 40k in the bank

    Farnzy · 29/01/2014 at 14:19

    You do realize Pendles and Gazza will cop the Crowley tag in rounds 1 & 2. Both should still crack the ton but can't see them going too big, meaning they could both drop in price a bit early on. Food for thought.

      Luke · 29/01/2014 at 17:22

      yeah you're right, they could drop in price after copping the tag. both midfields have a bunch of stars though so Crowley could potentially go to other blokes at times too, letting Gaz and Pendles get off the chain a little. Trying to minimise using trades early if at all possible, as I was too trade happy too early last season and it cost me

        Farnzy · 29/01/2014 at 17:45

        All good mate, can’t go wrong picking those two regardless of their price! I think I’m just trying to reassure myself for not choosing to start with them!

PJ8 · 29/01/2014 at 14:19

Farnzy, looking good.

I like Kade Simpson as a POD. Not many have him. Was a bit inconsistant last year with many games 80 and below but did rip out a few above 120. so hopefully he can be a bit more consistant this year for ya.

Risky Rucks mate, both very injury prone and coming off injured years. I see Longer their as a back up but I think it may not be enough. If you are going to stick with these rucks I would maybe replace Zorko for Dixon (if you have the money) and keep the DDP link between FWD and Ruck as extra back up. Zorko could of just been a one year wonder in his first year, not confident he can repeat it this year.

The rest is good with safe proven scorers

    Farnzy · 29/01/2014 at 14:58

    Cheers mate, for now I'm happy to run with the risky duo all pending on NAB form and fitness. Personally I'm pretty bullish about prospects this year, apparently his smashing it this preseason (like everyone else) and I think a new coach can only improve his scoring. Thanks again for the comment.

choppers · 29/01/2014 at 14:51

My team with 60k left. All comments gratefully accepted.

DEF: S.Mitchell, S.Thompson, D.Swallow, M.Suckling, J.Laidler, M.Fuller, (Curran fwd, Cutler)

MID: G.Ablett, S Pendles, T.Cotchin, M.Murphy, D.Beams, D.Thomas, V.Michie, X.Ellis (Dunstan, Garlett fwd)

RUC: T.Goldstein, A.Sandilands (Nankervis, Thurlow fwd)

FWD: P.D'field, C.Wingard, C.Dixon, J.Watts, J. Paine, D.Markworth, (M.Honeychurch mid, L. Taylor mid)

All barring pre-season injuries of course….

SCMania · 29/01/2014 at 17:44

Morabito or Crouch?

    Farnzy · 29/01/2014 at 17:56

    Both will more than likely start in the 2’s, but if Crouch gets named to play I’d jump on!
    Crows had an internal scratch match the other week and he had something like 15
    touches from 20 mins game time. Kids a beast, needs to get treated for leather
    poisoning after every game he plays!

      SCMania · 29/01/2014 at 18:09

      Thanks, I have O'Rourke, Dunstan, Honeychurch at the moment but need one more at that price range. What do you think?

    Koach · 30/01/2014 at 02:20

    My father in law (die hard dockers supporter – goes to training sessions just to watch the boys) reckons morobito wont get first team selection for at least the first 4 rounds. By the sounds of it he's looking to be a good downgrade option.

    He also reckons Taberner is a smokie for some first team appearances

Jimmy · 29/01/2014 at 22:48

Thoughts good or bad appreciated.

Def: S.Mitchell P.Hanley K.Simpson M.Suckling S.Docherty K.Kolodjashnij ( T.Cutler J.Battersby )
Mid: G.Ablett S.Pendlebury M.Murphy D.Beams D.Thomas J.Martin C.Beams V.Michie ( L.McDonald M.Honeychurch )
Ruc: M.Lobbe A.Sandilands ( F.Thurlow T.Nankervis )
Fwd: P.Dangerfield C.Dixon L.Franklin L.Parker J.Caddy L.Taylor ( D.Markworth D.Garlett )
Salary Cap Remaining: $53,100

Jozza · 30/01/2014 at 00:40

Can u lads check out my team and please write back 🙂 much appreciated…

DEF: Mitchel, Hanley, Swallow, Suckling, L. Mcdonald, Fuller (Laidler,Tippet)
MID: Ablett, Pendles, Barlow, Beams, Thomas, J. Martin, Aish, Michie (Garlett, X.Ellis)
RUCK: Lobbe, Grundy (Currie, Thurlow)
FWD: Dangerfeild, Martin, Parker, Wingard, Hogan, Billings (Hayes, Honeychurch)

    ShinbonerSpirit · 30/01/2014 at 12:57

    I have the same ruck duo, but with Apeness/Dixon swinging in FWD/RUC for added security. You might want to consider something like that. Jack Billings has had an interrupted preseason. I'd like to give Shane Kersten a mention. He's been in the system for a few years now, he's more experienced than most rookies, being 20 and Pods was delisted to give this guy a chance. Joel Tippett is still rookie listed so don't touch him. I'm slightly iffy about Swallow. Apart from that, solid team mate.

      Jozza · 30/01/2014 at 13:00

      Thanks mate much appreciated will check that info out ! 🙂 thanks

        Jozza · 30/01/2014 at 13:04

        ok i did Joel tippet > Laidler… Billings > Kersten…. Now i can upgrade swallow to a 534k defender… who would you suggest.. Rob Murhphey, Heath Shaw, Luke Hodge, Kade Simpson or anyone else?
        Much Appreciated

Caz · 30/01/2014 at 01:54

Ok guys here is my first team for this year what do you think.
Defence. Mitchell Hanley suckling kk McDonald laidler fuller Langdon.
Mids. Ablett pendlebury Watson beams murphy thomas j Martin michie dunstan sheed.
Rucks. Sandilands lobbe thurlow nankervis.
Forwards. Dangerfield Martin Dixon franklin rohan garlett l taylor imply.

WEEVZ · 30/01/2014 at 02:29

Ok so my first draft SC team looks like this:
DEF: J.McVeigh, M.Hibberd, P.Hanley, M.Suckling, K.Kolodjashnij, L.McDonald (J.Laidler, M.Fuller)
MID: G.Ablett, N.Fyfe, T.Cotchin, D.Beams, D.Thomas, J.Martin, L.Dunstan, A.Morabito (L.Taylor, D.Garlett)
RUCK: N.Naitanui, C.Dixon (T.Nankervis, M.King)
FWD: P.Dangerfield, D.Martin, L.Franklin, C.Rioli, J.Hogan, S.Kersten (M.Apeness, M.Honeychurch)

I have $84900 left in the bank. Thoughts?

Jimmy · 30/01/2014 at 09:54

Hey Everyone. This is my first crack for the year, any thoughts would be great. Don't pay too much attention to the rookies as they will undoubtedly change several times over the course of the preseason.

J. McVeigh S. Mitchell P. Hanley D. Swallow M. Suckling K. Kolodjashnij
T. Cutler M. Fuller

G. Ablett S. Pendlebury T. Rockliff D. Beams D. Thomas J. Martin L. McDonald L. Taylor
J. O'Rourke A. Morabito

S. Mumford A. Sandilands
T. Nankervis B. Brown

P. Dangerfield C. Wingard L. Franklin D. Zorko M. Honeychurch D. Garlett
S. Kersten J. Kennedy-Harris

Only $4,700 left. Thoughts?

Shannan R-H · 30/01/2014 at 11:40

Hey guys! What do you think of my team? I'm unsure if I should slot Daisy Thomas in because of his price and same with Claye Beams!

DEF: Bartel, McVeigh, Harry O, Suckling, Docherty, Kolojashnij, (Cutler, Fuller)

MID: S Mitchell, D Martin, C Wingard, M Murphy, D Beams, J martin, J aish, D Sheed, (A Morabito, M Crouch)

RUC: B Grundy, Sandi (Apeness, Nankervis)

FWDS: Danger, Roughead, Mayne, Franklin, Zorko, Garlett (L Taylor, Honeychurch)

Thoughts would be much appreciated along with any cash cows that I don't have that might get games/promising! Cheers!

    taylorwoof · 01/02/2014 at 10:35

    Hey Shannan!

    Very unique side you have there. Especially the midfield.

    Personally i wouldn't select Mitchell, Martin or Wingard in the midfield. As was mentioned in recent Podcasts, don't focus too much on having the DPP swingers from the start of the year…..look to be trading them in as a the season progresses. All three of these players are worthy selections as Defenders/Forwards. I think Mitchell as a defender is a luxury. Plenty of 'reduced mids' to feast on this season.

    Also a starting a midfield minus Ablett or Pendles is quite ballsy. As these two become reliable captain selections on top of being proven prolific scorers.

    Your other lines look quite good. Few nice uniques in Harry O now Lalalabumba and Chris Mayne.

    I won't comment re rookies, as best to do this post NAB Series.

      Shannan R-H · 02/02/2014 at 12:34

      Thanks mate for getting back to me! Really appreciate, will change my side around during and after NAB cup but thanks again mate!

Paddy · 30/01/2014 at 11:47

How does my team look first crack at it

J.mcveigh. S.mitchell S.Hurn. T.cutler bench

M.suckling. K.kolodjashnij. L.Mcdonald. M.fuller bench

G.ablett. S.pendlebury. N.fyfe. T.cotchin A.morabito bench

D.Beams. J.martin. D.tyson. C.beams. J.o'rourke. Bench

C.Dixon. A.Sandilands. D.currie bench. A smith bench

P.Dangerfield D.Martin. L.parker. L.taylor

J.caddy. N.bock. G.rohan. A.Spina

Jay · 30/01/2014 at 11:48

Love to hear community's thoughts on my team first draft……have a couple of other players on mind but awaiting to see their roles in NAB Cup before finalizing:

BAC: J. McVeigh, S. Mitchell, P. Hanley, M. Suckling, S. Docherty, J. Laidler (L. McDonald, M. Fuller)
MID: S. Pendlebury, J. Watson, T. Rockliff, D. Beams, L. Shuey, D. Thomas, C. Beams, V. Michie (J. Polec, A. Morabito)
RUC: B. McEvoy, A. Sandilands (D. Currie, T. Nankervis)
FWD: P. Dangerfield, T. Mitchell, D. Zorko, J. Caddy, G. Rohan, D. Garlett (L. Taylor, M. Honeychurch)

$4,400 remaining. Initially was thinking to have another premium in the Mids instead of Shuey – would mean I have to downgrade Docherty to a Rookie type to free up cash for Cotchin/JPK/Sloane – Sloane is very high on my watchlist, interested to see how he handles the new Co-Captaincy along with Dangerfield….

    Jack Michaels · 30/01/2014 at 16:11

    love it! maybe downgrade mcevoy to grundy and upgrade caddy! Fwd line pretty light on!

      Jay · 31/01/2014 at 09:23

      Cheers mate! I'm not totally settled in my rucks yet, will be watching NAB Cup closely to see likes of McEvoy, Jacobs, Grundy, Sandi, MacIntosh and Nic Nat to see whats the best combo i can go with…

Jack Michaels · 30/01/2014 at 15:17

need one more forward in my supercoach side and i have $276,600 to spend! thought? ideas?

    ShinbonerSpirit · 30/01/2014 at 16:27

    How does your forward line look?

    Michael · 30/01/2014 at 23:05

    maybe Jed Lamb could be a good one? Should get game time, was disappointed the Swans couldn't hang onto him.

      taylorwoof · 01/02/2014 at 10:43

      Call me crazy, but starting to look closely at Shaun "BURNMAN' Higgins in that price range.

      Supposedly being pushed up the ground to play on a Wing or even Half Back (half back would be juicey for SC output). Also my thinking, many will steer clear of him due to past burns, so he could be a POD in that price range. I haven't chosen him for about four years, so i'm not scar ridden as many other coaches may be from him.

      Mitch Clark is high on my list if he looks good in the NAB Series. His best would average at least 80 a season.

      Really most of this price range are wait and see how they fair in the NAB

      Clark, Higgins, Fasolo, Lamb, Rohan, Hogan etc.

chandanrajdb · 30/01/2014 at 17:03

Hello Community,

My team below, any comments would be much appreciated…….

DEF:
H Bartel, S Mitchell, S Atley, W Schofield, KK, L McDonald, J Laidler, M Fuller

MID:
G Ablett, S Pendlebury, J Watson, T Cotchin, D Beams, D Thomas, J Martin, X Ellis, L Dunstan, A Morabito

RUCK:
A Sandilands, H McIntosh, F Thurlow, B Brown

FWD:
P Dangerfield, C Dixon, L Franklin, J Caddy, J Hogan, G Rohan, D Garlett, L Taylor

I have $12,100 left in the bank……

Any comments, thoughts would be highly appreciated……..

I am not too happy with my DEF……and i am taking a big risk in RUCK……which I am happy to take at the moment….obviously it will change after the NAB challenge if I witness any sort of issues with my Ruck's…..

Cheers,
Raj….

    Jay · 31/01/2014 at 09:48

    Yeh, i would look to restructure the Def a bit more – quite thin, especially considering the number of premium options available there with likes of McVeigh, Hanley, Walker, Simpson, etc.. I would probably look to downgrade one of Ablett or Pendles and upgrade one of Atley or Schofield…

Max von Muffman · 30/01/2014 at 17:38

Howdy Jock. Well played again!

How does this look?

def: mitchell, hanley, suckling, K Kolodjashnji, laidler, fuller, (mcDonald, cutler)

mid: ablett, pendles, selwood, dangermouse, d beams, zorko, thomas, martin, (aish, morabito)

ruc: lobbe, grundy, (apeness, nankervis)

fwd: martin, j roughead, gunston, hogan, taylor, garlett, (markworth, honeychurch)

    taylorwoof · 01/02/2014 at 10:51

    G'day Max!

    Defense appears a little thin. Obviously it all depends on whether those rookies get early games. If they do then you're laughing, if not then a structure overhaul is required.

    Iron strong midfield there! Personally i wouldn't select Dangerfield as a midfielder. As mentioned in the recent podcasts, look to trade in your DPP's as the season progresses rather than starting with them. Plenty of reduced mids up for offer in the midfield.

    Rucks are interesting……Lobbe & Grundy, seems to be quite a lot of talk about both of them this pre season. Masterstroke if both star. Personally, i cannot spend 360K on a 7 game player in Grundy. Lobbe is a valid choice as he does fit that 'breakout ruckmen' profile.

    Being a Hawks supporter, i like the forward selections of Roughy & Gunston. I hope they both have a good 2014. Jesse Hogan, the kid is a beast….cannot wait to see him play. Gartlett….i'm not sure where he'll fit. Quite a lot of talk he replaces Rioli in the early games (Rioli suspended), but in my view Jed Anderson would be above him in the pecking order. Looking forward to getting a glimpse of Gartlett in the NAB Series.

Mebois · 30/01/2014 at 17:44

Hi Guys

DEF: Mcveigh, Bartel, Seedsman, Suckling, Kolod…., Mcdonald (Fuller, Cutler)

MID: Pendlebury, Fyfe, Barlow, Murphy, Beams, J. Martin, Beams, D. Sheed (Dunstan, Garlett)

RUC: Dixon, Sandilands (Apeness, Nankervis)

FWD: Dangerfield, Wingard, Franklin, Zorko, Hogan, Rohan (Taylor, Honeychurch)

$77,100 left, please leave your thoughts, tips, advice and comments.

    scooter · 30/01/2014 at 18:16

    Seedsman is injured not sure if he will be back for rd 1otherwise good team

      Mebois · 30/01/2014 at 18:54

      thanks, do you know how long he will be out for.

        rhino · 30/01/2014 at 23:13

        Hi Mebois nice side there, on seedsman he will be looking to start full training in 9 weeks, so don't think he will play first couple of rounds.

          Mebois · 31/01/2014 at 01:08

          so i should just swap seedsman for swallow and team is fine?

James · 30/01/2014 at 18:24

Hi guys hope your teams are going well. Would appreciate advice.

DEF: Mcveigh, Mitchell, Hanley, Suckling, McDonald, Fuller (Laidler, Cutler)

MID: Ablett, Pendlebury, Murphy, D. Beams, D. Thomas, J. Martin, Aish, Dunstan (Morabito, Honeychurch)

RUC: Goldstein, Lobbe (Nankervis, B. Brown)

FWD: Dangerfield, D. Martin, Dixon, Parker, Lennon, Taylor (Kersten, Garlett

    taylorwoof · 01/02/2014 at 11:00

    Hi James!

    Looks a good safe team mate.

    Backs appear good, we'll know more about D5-D8 after the NAB Series.

    M1-M6 appears a very popular combination.

    Goldstein nice choice. He would be my choice of the Top end Premiums from last season. Lobbe appears to have that 'breakout ruckmen' profile.

    Fwds look good too…..sit and wait for NAB to know more about F5-F8.

    Only thing is i don't see any real POD's – perhaps Lobbe…….that will separate you from the masses. Though you may be planning on trading in a few in as the season progresses.

DanielL · 30/01/2014 at 18:24

Hey lads feedback would be great!

DEF: hanley, birchall, houli, k.koladjashnij, mcdonald, laidler (cutler, fuller)

MID: ablett, fyfe, wingard, murphy, s.mitchell, beams, martin, dunstan (garlett, m.crouch)

RUC: lobbe, grundy (apeness, nankervis)

FWD: danger, martin, roughead, franklin, markworth, taylor (impey, honeychurch)

just over 34k leftover

    taylorwoof · 01/02/2014 at 12:38

    G'day Daniel!

    Defenders look a little skinny with 3-0-3 structure, but will know more about D4-D6 post NAB.

    Mids, personally i wouldn't start Mitchell and Wingard in the middle. Trade your DPP's in during the year, prefer Mitchell down back and Wingard up forward.

    Rucks are interesting……Lobbe & Grundy, seems to be quite a lot of talk about both of them this pre season. Masterstroke if both star. Personally, i cannot spend 360K on a 7 game player in Grundy. Lobbe is a valid choice as he does fit that 'breakout ruckmen' profile.

    Fwds look strong. Find out more on rooks during NAB.

    Maybe you could play Mitchell or Wingard in their alternate positions and inject an extra rook into the midfield. Early doors, MID rooks appear to be the strongest….and look the best cash generation options.

      DanielL · 02/02/2014 at 23:24

      thanks for the feedback mate!

john · 30/01/2014 at 18:35

Defs
bartel, mcviegh, hibberd, hanley, kk, laiderler, (cutler, fuller)

Mids
ablett, dangerfield, murpghy, beams, selwood, j martin, l mcdonald, ellis (garlett, morabitto)

Rucks
sandi, leuenberger (thurlow, nankervis)

Fwds
Martin, frankin, zorko, hogan, rohan, L taylor (knight honeychurch)

thoughts???

WombatsFC · 30/01/2014 at 18:42

Hi Community,
Does anybody know if Tom Hawkins had an adult stem cell injection into his prolapsed disc or just the usual cortisone/steroid?

There has been a recent clinical trial in Australia using adult stem cells as treatment for chronic back injuries such as hawkins'. It's not a cure but all indications are a minimum 12-months symptom free, cortisone/steriod injections can't guarantee any symptom free time frame at all.

If he's had the stem cell treatment I'll definitely have in my team at round 1.

Brem · 30/01/2014 at 19:32

Alright – here's my team.

D: McVeigh, S Mitchell, Hanley, Suckling, Darley, McDonald (Cutler, Fuller)
M: Ablett, Pendlebury, M Murphy, D Beams, D Thomas, Martin, C Beams, Dunstan (Morabito, O'Rourke)
R: McEvoy, Grundy (Longer, Nankervis)
F: Dangerfield, Wingard, Franklin, T Walker, Billings, Bock (Taylor, Garlett)

It feels dangerously predictable, and I will be watching NAB with interest to spot any potential POD's. However, with only 6600 in the war chest, I will be relying on some of these rookies to go big early – and I'm not sure they will.

Thoughts?

Squida 4 PM · 30/01/2014 at 19:33

DEF:
S. Mitchell, P. Hanley, C. Enright, D. Swallow, K. Kolodjashnij, M. Fuller (L. McDonald, T. Cutler)
MID:
G. Ablett, S. Pendlebury, T. Cotchin, M. Murphy, D. Beams, D. Thomas, J. Martin, L. Dunstan (A. Morabito, R. Knight)
RUCK:
M. Lobbe, A. Sandilands (M. King, T. Nankervis)
FWD:
P. Dangerfield, D. Martin, L. Franklin, J. Hogan, G. Rohan, D. Garlett (L. Taylor, M Honeychurch)

Thoughts?

Jamie · 30/01/2014 at 21:08

Heres my first draft team, feedback wanted:

Backs: J bartel, S mitchell, D swallow, J watts, S atley, K Kolodjashnij (Laidler, Fuller)

Mids: J selwood, Libba, D beams, T scully, A gaff, D thomas, J martin, C beams (michie, Polec)

Rucks: M Lobbe, B longer (B Brown, T Nankervis)

Fwds: Danger, D martin, L franlin, S crameri, G rohan, L taylor (kersten, Garlett

thoughts? Opinions? 20k left

    Michael · 30/01/2014 at 23:01

    quite a few interesting picks here, probably too many IMHO – in def not sure Atley's your man, very consistent but like Jock – stuck in the '70's. I'd be getting another rookie in his place and use the cash to bump up from Swallow or Watts to another def premo like Hanley. or McVeigh. Mids you've gotta have either GAJ or Pendles, can't see Scully jumping up a gear so I'd swap him for a rook and swap Libba or Gaff for GAJ or Pendles. Rucks are OK but Longer might not get the game time you need with Hickey there. Fwds – I'd pick either Buddy or Crameri, not both. Crameri might have more upside and will give you the chance to swap Buddy for maybe Dixon to give you the ruck backup? Hope that helps!

      WombatsFC · 30/01/2014 at 23:22

      i Agree with Michael, few changes and your side will be looking ok, another option is just start again.

James · 30/01/2014 at 21:17

Sandilands or Grundy?

    Michael · 30/01/2014 at 22:49

    Grundy

    ShinbonerSpirit · 31/01/2014 at 11:34

    Grundy.

Michael · 30/01/2014 at 21:21

Hi community, pretty happy with this team so far, thoughts?

DEF: Bartel (MID), Mitchell (MID), Henderson, Suckling, KK, Fuller (Tippett J, Cutler)
MID: Pendles, Fyfe, Cotchin, Wingard (FWD), Murph, Beams, McDonald (DEF), Ellis X (O'Rourke, Honeychurch (FWD))
RUC: Minson, Sandy (King, Apeness (FWD))
FWD: Danger (MID), Dusty (MID), Dixon (RUC), Bock, Rohan, Lennon (Kersten, Garlett (MID))

have $8.5K left.
byes 14/10/6 – not really worried about that at this stage, reckon it evens out pretty much anyway.

    ShinbonerSpirit · 31/01/2014 at 11:34

    J Tippett is rookie listed. The DPPs are nice, but would you be risking valuable points from true midfielders by sticking, say, Wingard in there? Regardless, the team doesn't seem to have any gaping weaknesses. Great job!

Seedy · 30/01/2014 at 21:27

Team is as follows:

DEF: S. Mitchell, S. Thompson, P. Hanley, M. Suckling, K. Kolodjashnij, J. Laidler, T. Cutler, M. Fuller
MID: G. Ablett, S. Pendlebury, T. Rockliff, N. Fyfe, T. Cotchin, J. Martin, L. McDonald, V. Michie, J. O'rourke, D. Garlett
RUCK: T. Goldstein, H. Macintosh, T. Nankervis, D. Currie
FWD: P. Dangerfield, D. Martin, D. Zorko, J. Hogan, G. Rohan, L. Taylor, J. Impey, M. Honeychurch

I've got $14,900 leftover, thoughts community?

    Michael · 30/01/2014 at 22:49

    pretty fine looking team there Seedy – one of the best I've seen for sure – struggling to see how you got all these in! Like Rocky & Scotty T as POD in there, maybe a little light on def but you can't cover everywhere atm. Great mid – certainly best I've seen, should get you off to a cracking start. Only other slight concern is HMac – no cover if he doesn't get on the park. Otherwise really well done!

Glen · 30/01/2014 at 21:40

Hi Guys,
Would love some thoughts on my team.

DEF –
J. Bartel – GEE
S. Mitchell – HAW
G. Ibbotson – FRE
J. Adcock – BRI
M. Weller – STK
S. Docharty – CAR
T. Cutler – BRI
M. Fuller – WBD

MIDS –
J. Selwood – GEE
J. Watson – ESS
T. Cotchin – RIC
M.Murphy – CAR
D. Beams – COL
D. Thomas – CAR
S. Savage – STK
L.McDonald – NTH
L. Dunstam – STK
A. Morabito – FRE

RUCK –
A. Sandilands – FRE
B. Longer – STK
D. Currie – NTH
T. Nankervis – SYD

FORWARDS –
L. Franklin – SYD
J. Kennedy WCE
D. Zorko – BRI
T. Walker – ADE
J. Billings – STK
D. Garlett – HAW
L. Taylor – BRI
M. Honeychurch – WBD

The only concern i have is the strong St Kilda numbers but i see a lot of promise and potential trade up in these guys if the saints have a good start to the year. Any thought would be welcome

    Michael · 30/01/2014 at 22:40

    like your pick of young Savage – seriously considering trying to squeeze him in somewhere!

    Michael · 30/01/2014 at 22:44

    a bit unsure of your fwds – methinks too many KPF in there with Buddy, JPK & Tex, I'd certainly drop Tex as I don't think he'll be ready to go anyway for Rd1. Also very strong nads not having any of GAJ / Pendles / Danger. Not sure if Saints will get the start you want either (sorry Jock…). Overall lots of POD but also huge risks. But hey, if it works you'll probably win the whole thing!

HoganKill · 30/01/2014 at 22:01

DEF: Bartel, McVeigh, Mitchell, Hanley, Suckling, K Kolodjashnij (Fuller, Tippett)
MID: Ablett, Pendles, Beams, D.Thomas, Tyson, C Beams, X.Ellis, Morabito (D.Garlett, Dunstan)
RUC: Minson, Grundy (Currie, Thurlow)
FWD: Danger, Wingard, Parker, Mitchell, Fasolo, T.Taylor (Honeychurch, Kersten)

    WombatsFC · 30/01/2014 at 22:43

    It looks like a great high scoring teams. Rookies TBC obviously
    My only observations are Beams is very injury prone and misses a LOT of games but Murphy doesn't, Gaz & Pendles as the only premiums is a concern and Danger has averaged a 50K loss over the first 4 rounds for the past 2-years. Maybe drop Gaz or Pendle + Danger. Then add a couple of underpriced premium to your mids. Cotchin or Murphy are both good options.
    Keep an eye on Mitchell, apparently his ankle is looking a lot like Daisy's was.

      WombatsFC · 30/01/2014 at 23:16

      Also don't like the fasolo pick and probably should just pick a whole new team.

      HoganKill · 31/01/2014 at 19:08

      I don't agree on much you said there mate. I'm all for constructive criticism, but wowee! Beams is around 150k under priced and is almost a definite lock to be a top 10 mid this year. Murphy cant handle a tag, so if you want to pick him, go ahead! Hahaha, and if your not going to start with Danger, I wish you goodluck as you'll be playing catch up! He might just average 10 more than the 2nd best forward!

    ShinbonerSpirit · 31/01/2014 at 11:32

    Tippett is rookie listed.

      HoganKill · 31/01/2014 at 18:55

      Cheers mate. Didn't think about that

    twindbag86 · 05/02/2014 at 21:24

    My two cents worth mate (take it or leave it), but the side seems a bit heavily weighted in defence, which has left you a bit vulnerable in other lines.

    If you compare your on field line structures:
    DEF – 4 premiums, 1 mid pricer, and 1 rookie
    MID – 3 premiums, daisy & morabito recovering from major injuries, and tyson, beams and ellis with question marks as to what impact they will have
    RUC – Minson and Grundy sounds good
    FWD – Danger is a given, I like the Wingard and Mitchell choice, Fasolo might struggle to break into the 22 at first, and Parker & T.Taylor I wouldn't have even considered but you might have mail on them that I don't.

    Fruit for thought brother.

Wil · 30/01/2014 at 23:55

Defenders:
Andrew Walker $572,500
Jared Mcveigh $572,500
Sam Mitchell $562,000
Matthew Suckling $312,200
Kade Kolodjashnij $197,300
Jeremy Laidler $161,800
Tom Cutler $117,300
Matthew Fuller $117,300

Midfield:
Gary Ablett $695,000
Scott Pendlebury $683,100
Patrick Dangerfield $609,000
Marc Murphy $498,300
Dayne Beams $497,200
Shane Savage $341,600
James Aish $187,300
Luke Mcdonald $182,300
Xavier Ellis $159,100
Anthony Morabito $123,900

Rucks:
Ben mcevoy $503,300
Billy Longer $279,100
Michael Apeness $137,300
Toby Nankervis $117,300

Forward:
Dustin Martin $549,200
Lance Franklin $487,700
Jack Gunston $447,400
Jeremy Cameron $392,000
Lewis Taylor $117,300
Dayle Garlett $117,300
Daniel Markworth $123,900
Mich Honeychurch $117,300

Any feedback would be great.

Adam · 31/01/2014 at 10:33

Hey guys, I play in leagues with friends who are a lot more hardcore then I am, so generally I am the pushover. I try to look like I don't care so it makes it even better if I knock them off. But looking to see if anything looks foul here or if the side looks ok. Any other thoughts are welcome.

DEF – Mitchell S, Hanley P, Swallow D, Suckling M, Kolodjashnij K, McDonald L, (Cutler T, Fuller M)
MID – Watson J, Fyfe N, Cotchin T, Murphy M, Beams D, Thomas D, Martin J, Dunstan L, (Morabito A, Garlett D)
RUC – Mumford S, Sandilands A, (Currie D, Nankervis T)
FWD – Dangerfield P, Roughead J, Franklin L, Zorko D, Walker T, Hogan J, (Taylor L, Honeychurch M)

    matt · 31/01/2014 at 14:14

    walker wont play at least the first 3 rounds so I wouldn't start with him. very risky rucks both have bad history with injuries.

chandanrajdb · 31/01/2014 at 10:46

Hello Community,
Some of the breakout contenders I am considering this season……
1.Josh Caddy (MID/FWD, $325,300)
He is in the system for 3 years and played 44 games…..and was a top 10 draft pick. Geelong went hard in getting him in 2012 Free agency period. And when Wells from Geelong is seeing something special from him he will be special, and considered as a future leader of Geelong footy club. Having a good pre-season and into his 2nd year with Cats. At the moment he is in my team. Another thing to consider is now that Chappy, Corey all gone he should get more game time and will be in the thick of the action for most of the game.

Predicted 2014 Average: 90 to 95 PPG, wouldn’t be surprised if he scores more than that….

2.Shane Savage (MID, $341,600)
He is a good solid player. Whenever he got an opportunity at the Hawks he was really good in some of the games last season and was sub in most of the games. Lack of opportunity at Hawks as impacted his scoring and also his pricing. Now that he has moved on to Saints, he should get more of a game time and will be in playing in the midfield. Now that Nick Dal Santo has moved to NM, Savage should be filling his position with the saints. When it comes for the tag he will be below J Stevens and Montagna in the pecking order.

Strongly considering him in my team, at the moment tossing up between him and Dale Thomas, both similarly priced.

Predicted 2014 Average: 90 to 95 PPG……

3.Brandon Ellis (MID, $440,400)
OK, I don’t have to tell more about this guy. Everyone is aware what he did after the 1st 3 rounds last season…..his price is basically based on his season average and if you take out his scores of the games where he was a sub, his average increases to more than 90PPG….will be in the thick of the action most of the game time and has got all possibilities of a Breakout year for TIGERMAN…..BRANDON ELLIS…….STRONGLY Considering him in my team……at the moment he is not my team, but will be watching very closely during NAB challenge……

Strongly considering him in my team, tossing up between L Shuey , M Murphy & him…….

Predicted 2014 Average: 100-105 PPG……

4.Robie Gray (MID/FWD, $442,600)
He is a gun, first full preseason after 3 years looking absolutely fit. One thing we need to have a look is his average after the byes last season, he averaged 95.6 PPG…..looking like he will have very good season 2014, and will be a premium player by end of the season.

Will be on my watch list…..and will be having a close look at him in the NAB challenge…..
Predicted 2014 Average: 95 to 105 PPG…….
Thoughts community.……

Cheers,
Raj….
Ranked 595 overall last season, and that was my 1st proper SC season…..proud to be a JR Community member.…..trying to do bit better this year……

    Mebois · 31/01/2014 at 12:27

    i have all of them except ellis, i dont want to many bargains but do you have any ideas for defenders.

      ShinbonerSpirit · 31/01/2014 at 15:07

      I was always going to consider Broadbent in my team this year, MID/DEF or otherwise – definite breakout contender. Seedsman and Ben Reid also sit at that general price range. Reid comes with a rare FWD/DEF link, allowing you to form a dual-position link down the track. Lachie Hansen has transformed into an excellent rebound defender. I've got only Broadbent in my team at present time.

    WombatsFC · 31/01/2014 at 17:11

    Not convinced Robbie Gray wont breakdown in the first 6.
    Have you considered the possibility that Caddy's extra midfield time will be as a shutdown player?
    IMO Brandon Ellis is way overpriced for a mid only and he might not get the freedom from opposition that he did last year, there no way that he will average 100-105.
    The reason Savage had a lack of opportunity at Hawthorn is that he wasn't good enough in the VFL to get a full game with the hawks and the reason the hawks gave him away is that they believe every other mid on their list is a better prospect. Even if he plays a full game for the saints he's not good enough to displace any of the current midfield, I know Dal Santo has gone but the saints are promoting from within to fill that position.

    Favalinko · 02/02/2014 at 09:12

    Hi Chandanrajdb, all players your considering are worthy mid priced selections and the reasons you mention are all valid. I have considered all of them but R Gray, no doubt he can play but is injury prone bit risky for me. Caddy will play some time in the middle ( no Chappy no Motlop). Saints didn't recruit Savage to play in reserves. Ellis I have in my side over Murphy who can't shake a tag. Won't be surprised if Ellis average will be higher than Murphy. I followed your progress last year and glad you had a great year ( I finished 648) . All I can say is go with your gut once you have digested all the the information. Good luck in season 2014

Mebois · 31/01/2014 at 10:51

hi guys any news on riley knight and jayden hunt?

also what do you guys think about ben reid as a POD?

CowboysCowards · 31/01/2014 at 12:28

Hi guys. Here’s my first look at it. Some wiggle room with $50K left

Def- mcveigh, mackie, swallow, docherty, mcdonald( fuller, l.thompson)

Mids- GAJ, Pendles, fyfe, Murphy, gaff, daisy, aish, m.crouch (polec, morabito

Ruck- mcevoy, sandi ( apeness, thur low)

Fwd – danger, roughy, Dixon, buddy, daniher, rohan( kersten, garlett)

Dixon the ruck swing to handle apeness or thur low not playing.

    CowboysCowards · 31/01/2014 at 12:31

    Oops. Add in cutler to defense.

Matt · 31/01/2014 at 12:45

Looking forward to season 2014
Can you please rate my first draft?

DEF: McVeigh, Mitchell, Hanley, Suckling, K Kolodjashnij, L McDonald (Fuller, Gardiner)

MID: Ablett, Stevey J, Watson, D Beams, D Thomas, C Beams, X Ellis, A Morabito (M Crouch, B Ross)

Ruck: Goldstein, Sandi (Derickx, Currie)

FWD: Dangerfield, D Martin, Franklin, Rioli, M Clark, L Taylor (Kersten, D Garlett)

$75,300 remaining

Any thoughts?

plumdusty · 31/01/2014 at 12:58

second draftof my team. i still have $192,000 left over. do you usually spend your whole wad at first or do you save some? also, thinking about dumping Sam Mitchell. any thoughts?

1. McVeigh, Jarrad
$572,500
2. Mitchell, Sam
$562,000
3. Hanley, Pearce
$516,200
4. Suckling, Matt
$312,200
5. Docherty, Sam
$285,000
6. Scharenberg, Matthew
$192,300
7. Kolodjashnij, Jake
$117,300
8. Fuller, Matthew
$117,300
9. Ablett, Gary
$695,000
10. Pendlebury, Scott
$683,100
11. Cotchin, Trent
$572,000
12. Murphy, Marc
$498,300
13. Thomas, Dale
$341,800
14. Billings, Jack
$207,300
15. Aish, James
$187,300
16. Beams, Claye
$183,400
17. McDonald, Luke
$182,300
18. Crouch, Matt
$117,300
19. McIntosh, Hamish
$332,900
20. Sandilands, Aaron
$310,700
21. Currie, Daniel
$123,900
22. Nankervis, Toby
$117,300
23. Dangerfield, Patrick
$609,000
24. Martin, Dustin
$549,200
25. Franklin, Lance
$487,700
26. Walker, Taylor
$299,500
27. Hogan, Jesse
$217,300
28. Rohan, Gary
$176,200
29. Kersten, Shane
$123,900
30. Garlett, Dayle
$117,300

@TrentAdelaide · 31/01/2014 at 14:52

hmm not sold on what i have at the moment but it is a start!

Bartel, Hodge, Kolodjashnij, Swallow, fuller, rampe, dea, bootsma

Ablett, Dangerfield, murphy, dal santo, aish, D Beams, Jackson, Heppell, C Beams, Morabito

Nankervis, Cox, Wood, Daw

Franklin, D Garlett, Taylor, Honeychurch, Patton, Cordy, Zorko, Rohan

Thinking i am a little light on in my FWD line…

    ShinbonerSpirit · 31/01/2014 at 15:10

    That is perhaps the thinnest forward line I've seen this year – ballsy! When Rioli returns after Rd 1, Garlett is going to struggle for game time. Taylor's job security isn't great. I don't know too much about Honeychurch. Patton isn't a great SC player. Even without injury, isn't very mobile. Nankervis isn't a shoe-in for a starting slot either. I'd get a proven player. What intrigues me though, is while you've saved plenty in FWD, where has all that money gone? You must have a tonne of cash left.

      @TrentAdelaide · 31/01/2014 at 15:16

      yeah those were my thoughts too…surprisingly only $6,100 left!
      luckilly plenty of time left 😉
      Nankervis im not so worried about as Sydney have perfected having 2-3 big men in the line up.
      Good call re patton…
      Cheers

    WombatsFC · 31/01/2014 at 17:00

    Hi Trent,
    I suppose you have to start somewhere:-)
    I reckon you're wasting a bit of money. Bootsma wont play seniors again for the blues, Daw is doubtful to get a game and when he does he usually scores low. I also believe that Naismith will get a run for Swans before Nankervis.

Callum · 31/01/2014 at 15:35

D- J. McVeigh, S. Mitchell, K. Kolodjashnij, L. McDonald, J. Laidler, M. Fuller (T. Cutler, T. Langdon)
M- G. Ablett, J. Selwood, D. Hannebery, D. Beams, J. Martin, D. Tyson, L. Dunstan, J. O'Rourke (J. Kelly, C .Beams)
R- W. Minson, T. Goldstein (M. Apeness, T. Nankervis)
F- P. Dangerfield, D. Martin, C. Wingard, C. Riolo, M. Pavlich, J. Billings (L. Taylor, M. Honeychurch)
6K left

    WombatsFC · 31/01/2014 at 16:55

    Nice fwd line mate.

    yurkins · 01/02/2014 at 13:41

    6 rookies in the backline is unlikely to pay dividends. Backmen don't score as well as mids so that's why we look to mids to generate our cash cows. (and why we put better premiums in the mids too, you need more premos in your mids)
    Backline rookies are likely to get 40-70 pts avg per game if we are lucky. Finding 6 that actually play is the other challenge. Look for more balance across your lines to enable capture of most playing rookies.
    Invest in your mid line. Dump Pav and put in daisy lets say?

Mebois · 31/01/2014 at 15:50

DEF: Mcveigh, Mitchell, Swallow, Suckling, Kolod…., Mcdonald (Fuller, Cutler)

MID: Ablett, Pendlebury, Fyfe, Cotchin, Ellis, Savage, Martin, aish (Crouch, Garlett)

RUC: Grundy, Sandilands (Apeness, Nankervis)

FWD: Dangerfield, Franklin, Zorko, Gray, Caddy, Taylor (Thurlow, Honeychurch)

$40,500 left, i am happy with the team but not sure about savage and ellis and i want to some how fit wingard or dixon.

Caz · 31/01/2014 at 15:57

Hi guys here is my team. Would appreciate some feedback thanks.
Def. Mitchell Hanley suckling kk McDonald laidler fuller Langdon
Mids. Ablett pendlebury Watson murphy beams thomas j Martin michie sheed dunstan
Rucks. Lobbe sandilands thurlow nankervis
Forwards. Dangerfield Martin Dixon franklin rohan garlett l taylor impey.
149 k spare.

    WombatsFC · 31/01/2014 at 16:53

    Hi Caz,
    That's a great team I love the midfield and forwards but I think you need a mid-for to link the lines. IMO you're also lacking in the backline. Mitchell & Hanley are both good but Suckling isn't a D3, maybe reconsider one or two of your overpriced rookies for cheaper options and pump the savings into getting another premium def.
    Defense has traditionally been a low scoring line in SC but with Bartell, Mitchell, McVeigh, Walker and Hodge all available as defenders that will change this year but high scoring defenders are still rarer than high scoring forwards.

      Caz · 31/01/2014 at 17:00

      No worries thnx mate I have 150 k spare so will take a look at my backline and see what I can do. Thanks for your imput.

    Dools · 31/01/2014 at 17:26

    Hi Caz,
    Agree with Wombats. Ithink it may come down to KK or McD if you want to keep Suckling In the back line or even sacrificing Martin in the mids…. Nice team with a tweek

      Rhubarb_Ronin · 31/01/2014 at 18:02

      Hi Caz
      Agree with the above – maybe consider downgrading Murphy or Beams (probably Murphy of the two) to Beams the younger or D Tyson. This would free up cash for an extra premo Defender in place of KK or Mc and leave some $ in the bag.

      Whilst the mid output will suffer short term, either of the rookie priced mids are more likely to outscore their defensive counterparts and I believe should play R1.

        Caz · 31/01/2014 at 20:01

        Ok guys I have put l taylor on my mid bench for the mid forward link, put kersten in as my forward rookie swapped Watson to mcveigh in the mids and took suckling out and brought in heath shaw.

SuperCoach Newbie · 31/01/2014 at 17:00

Im new to supercoach this year and have already spent hours just straing blankly at my team… I’ve got a couple of players i just cant decide between. Here goes: Tom Rockliff and Trent Cotchin. Shaun Atley and David Swallow. Luke Shuey and Marc Murphy. Last one i promise. Brodie Grundy and Hamish Mcintosh. Help would be very much appreciated.

    Rhubarb_Ronin · 31/01/2014 at 17:42

    Welcome aboard – the staring blankly never quite goes away no matter how many seasons you’ve played.

    To your current dilemma(s), I’ve spent some of my own staring time pondering you first to queries for my own side:

    Rockliff v Cotchin: Both will score well in 2014 IMO. Cotchin probably offers a bit more upside in his price allowing you to make more pricey choices elsewhere, see below. I’ve currently settled this by having both in my side.

    Atley v Swallow: there was a bit of talk about Atley stepping up last season, not sure if we were all just a year behind but there is now a lot of talk about 2014 being the year for Swallow to make his move. His dual position makes him a slightly more desirable punt than Atley but Atley might be a good POD if he can add 10+ to his average. Another option would be to put $ saved by taking Cotchin over Rockliff and going for Ricky Henderson at $460k. Henderson has demonstrated a higher ceiling pumping out a hs of 160 last year and 5 tons (out of only 12 games) vs 3 and 1 ton (from 18 and 22) games for Swallow and Atley respectively. The Barron’s scouting report on Adelaide makes a number of good points in his favour as well.

    Hope this helps – I’ll have a look at the others and post something more if I can add value.