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G’day community,

Well, it’s here.

Finals time. What we’ve been preparing for. It’s what we play this beautiful game for. A win can lift you into the upper echelons of society. You’ll walk taller than the common folk around you. What happens here on in will define how you live your life.

A loss and you’re kicking empty cans around all summer thinking what could have been, why I traded him in, how did he beat me?

As mentioned in previous weeks, every decision you make here on in, there’s no turning back. Make the right call, and you’re on the road to glory. Make the wrong call, and it’s going to be a long summer.

Let me help you make the right call.

Here is this week’s Flesh, with a video to get you pumped up!


JOBE WATSON (ESS) MID – $420,600 DT/$502,200 SC
– Next 4 Games: WCE (H), NM (H), CARL (A), RICH (H),
– Recent Scores: 79, 130, 127, 24, 115

Pumping out 115 on return from injury, in driving rain, against a relentless Collingwood outfit s enough for me to be convinced about Jobe Watson. He’s a proven points scorer who will score big regardless of the opponent. 31 touches, 3 tackles (with a dodgy shoulder) and 6 marks in first game back from injury shows not just how good his is, but how important he is to Essendon.

Many will argue the case that the ASADA circus has finally hit Essendon and they’re cooked. That’s all well and good for the players, but Watson is fresh coming off a 3-week break. If you’re looking for an upgrade to Tom Mitchell, and have cash to turn, Jobe Watson is the ideal trade in option this week.

AARON SANDILANDS (FRE) RUCK – $381,000 DT/$488,700 SC
– Next 4 Games: GWS (H), MELB (A), PORT (H), STK (A)
– Recent Scores: 31, 74, 84, 88

It’s the biggest (no pun intended) punt you’ll make all year. Do you risk trading in the towering giant to help win you a SuperCoach premiership/overall ranking? Many will say no, and it’s a valid call given the injury history he has. However, he is a proven point scorer as well, and we only need his body to hold up for 4 more weeks.

In his return 2 games from a lengthy lay off, Sandiman has scored 84 and 88. If you break down his scores, you can see there’s potential for him to score higher as the weeks go on. He’s guaranteed to amass high number of HOs, but what’s more interesting are his disposals. He’s averaged 4 kicks in his last 2 games, yet still managed to weed out an 84 and 88. Give Freo’s run home, he’ll continue to monster the remaining ruckman, and is a SuperCoach smoky heading deep into finals

SAM MITCHELL (HAW) MID – $436,100 DT/$469,500 SC
– Next 4 Games: STK (A), COLL (H), NM (A), SYD (A)
– Recent Scores: 118, 125, 51, 96, 125

For those unable to afford Jobe Watson, another upgrade option is Sam Mitchell. The Hawthorn champion has gone under the radar, which is surprising given his recent form. Take out that 51, and you have a 116 average over last 5 weeks.

Trading in Sam Mitchell should be a tactical one to help win you your first final. He’s got St Kilda this week, who has packed it up for this season, so there’s potential for him to score big. Then, for those who win straight through to the preliminary final, he’ll face up against North Melbourne – a side he scored 137 on earlier this year. Again, like Jobe, a good trade in option for Tom Mitchell if he’s your M8.

PEARCE HANLEY (BRIS) DEF – $421,500 DT/$480,200 SC
– Next 4 Games: RICH (A), GWS (H), WBD (H), GEE (A)
– Recent Scores: 86, 117, 105, 113, 108

After a mid-season slump of some sorts, a couple of easy games has seen Pearce return to form and become a must have. He’s found more of the ball in recent times, gathering 27 touches in his last 2 weeks. Before you say, it was only against St Kilda and Melbourne, that’s significant because he’ll play against GWS and Western Bulldogs in the SF and PF, so you want someone who will score big against weaker opposition.

If you don’t have him yet, and keen to upgrade Gibbs/Duffield, Hanley is your man and probably the safest defensive option in a year where the defenders have failed us.


At this time of year, unless you have trades to burn, you’re almost forced to go into finals with the premiums you have. Using up potentially 2 trades to dump a JPK or a Gibbs isn’t worth it if some sides decide to rest key players. However, there’s one player that has to go this week…

TOM MITCHELL (SYD) MID – $399,100 DT/$417,100 SC
– Next 4 Games: COLL (H), STK (H), GEE (A), HAW (H)
– Recent Scores: 106, 113, 80, 106, 48

He’s been a revelation this season, coming in and pumping out premium scores at a time where the rookies were beginning to dry up. However, it’s time to say goodbye to Tom. There were warning bells when he scored 80 against the Eagles, and the 106 delayed the inevitable.

The fact the Dogs sent a tagger to Tom just shows how far he has come in his short career. Not only am I expecting the trend to continue, I also expect a Vlastuin-type demise and a drying up of high scores. It’s the perfect time, right on finals, to send him to Jobe Watson or Sam Mitchell as mentioned above. If you’ve got Tom as bench cover, keep if he plays, but if he gets dropped, cash in that $$$ and upgrade Gibbs or any other underperforming players.


– Brent Harvey (NM), BE 70
– Sam Mitchell (HAW), BE 70
– Trent Cotchin (RICH), BE 99
– Dustin Martin (RICH), BE 81
– Brett Deledio (RICH), BE 85
– Dean Cox (WCE), BE 44
– Nathan Fyfe (FRE), BE 47
– Tom Rockliff (BRIS), BE 70
– Pearce Hanley (BRIS), BE 77
– Kieren Jack (SYD), BE 48
– Chad Wingard (PORT), BE 58
– Hamish Hartlett (PORT), BE 44

– Steve Johnson (GEE), BE 142
– Jimmy Bartel (GEE), BE 116
– Jarryd Roughead (HAW), BE 138
– Lance Franklin (HAW), BE 102
– Gary Ablett Jr (GCS), BE 175
– Trent McKenzie (GCS), BE 126
– Matthew Kreuzer (CARL), BE 139
– David Mundy (FRE), BE 124
– Michael Barlow (FRE), BE 121
– Jack Steven (STK), BE 150
– Ryan Griffin (WBD), BE 133
– Josh P Kennedy (SYD), BE 135
– Patrick Dangerfield (ADEL) BE 185
– Scott Pendlebury (COLL), BE 168
– Jobe Watson (ESS), BE 172


Unfortunately, the inner sanctum of the pub has gone into lockdown in preparation for week 1 of the finals. No pub talk this week, but next week will be back in operation.

Remember community; send your questions to @Mr_Crimmins or the other esteemed members of the community. Good luck this weekend ladies and gentlemen. Do your community proud.

Mr Crimmins.

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James · 08/08/2013 at 18:54

No Buddy or Kreuzer this week.

Amos Frank · 08/08/2013 at 18:54

Great read mate!!!

JS7 · 08/08/2013 at 18:55

Ryan Griffin and Michael Barlow – get them in.

Easy run home in the finals.

    Remy · 08/08/2013 at 19:11

    Barlow or Griffen?

      Sam · 08/08/2013 at 19:20


      ShinbonerSpirit · 09/08/2013 at 09:38


    Devilz · 09/08/2013 at 13:41

    Out – Tom Mitchell & Matt Priddis
    In – Ryan Griffin & Nate "Da Knife" Fyfe

Jimmy · 08/08/2013 at 18:56

What to do with staker if hes on my field in defence?
3 trades left with 14k in the bank
Finished top 2 in all of my leagues

    Slats · 08/08/2013 at 19:04

    Staker has to go – I see him playing mainly forward with Brown out and he has a tough run home.

      Jimmy · 08/08/2013 at 19:20

      who for? already got gibbs, goddard, thompson, mckenzie, shaw

        JS7 · 08/08/2013 at 19:44

        Can you swing Staker into forward line and upgrade there? Or downgrade from Staker in defence and upgrade another player to a premium.

          Jimmy · 08/08/2013 at 19:49

          i cant move him to forward line, the rest of my team is premiums too

            JS7 · 08/08/2013 at 20:02

            Every position? Surely you can upgrade somewhere?

            Paul · 08/08/2013 at 20:03

            I am trading him to Dixon, GC plays Melbourne this week.

    chandanrajdb · 09/08/2013 at 08:57

    Hi Jimmy……


    OUT: Staker
    IN: Dixon or H Scotland…….both of them are in really good form recently…..I personally would go to Dixon….GCS have an easy run home next to Freo IMO……if you are thinking Dixon is injury prone….anybody can get injured…..its all LUCK IMO…..

    Just to generate some cash for your final upgarde in any position I would also be trading Ruck Bench rookies like T Nicholls to B Grundy……and do final upgrade next week or week later…..

    Good luck in the finals mate….


Slats · 08/08/2013 at 19:02

How about Matthew Pavlich as a POD?

Only owned in 2.37% of teams. Plays Greater Western Sydney this week – a team he has dominated against int he past.

Freo's has an easy run home in SC finals: (GWS, Melbourne, Port Adelaide, St Kilda). I think just like Sandi, Pav is worth a punt.

    davidzita1 · 08/08/2013 at 19:07

    Quality POD mate, a great inclusion, better option than Sandi for mine

    daine · 08/08/2013 at 22:02

    Stop telling everyone!

James · 08/08/2013 at 19:04

Hey Mr Crimmins,

Have 5 trades this week and 305,000 in the bank what should I do? Currently 1st in my league.

1. Keep Kreuzer and score a zero or trade him? Traded him in last week. No coverage for him.
2. Upgrade Staker to Dustin Martin
3. Upgrade Duffield to Scott D Thompson.

Doing 2 trades this week.

Appreciate your thoughts.

    SCaddict · 08/08/2013 at 19:25

    I would trade Kreuzer mate. That's exactly what trades in the finals are for. Minson or Goldy would be the ones to look at.

    And yes I like the idea of upgrading Staker to Dusty too especially if it only costs you one trade. I would hold on to Duffman even though he's been pretty disappointing.

    This will then leave you with 3 trades for the remaining 3 weeks which is a pretty good position to be in. Many coaches already have less than that going into the first week of the finals.

      Paul · 08/08/2013 at 19:53

      Kreuzer is only out for one week according to Carlton website, minor calf strain expected to play next week it says. More like there resting him me thinks.

        SCaddict · 08/08/2013 at 20:12

        You are probably right Paul. Ordinarily I would keep Kreuzer if this happened mid season or if James had adequate bench cover or next to no trades left. But this is the Supercoach finals and one donut may be the difference between elimination or playing in week 2 or making a prelim.

        There's no guarantee Kreuzer will be back next week and you can't rollover spare trades into next year so you don't want to get knocked out of your leagues with a bunch of trades left in your back pocket.

        So all circumstances considered I would make the trade myself especially with 5 trades left. If you only had 1 or 2 trades it would be a much tougher call. Mr Crimmins may disagree though but this is my $0.02 fwiw.

          throttlefinger · 08/08/2013 at 20:57

          Agree with SCaddict. Season wouldn't trade Kreuze. But it's win or die time. If you have trades left, make the trade to give you better chances. Who does your opponent have? Finals mean looking to see what you're up against. May get away without trading. They may have a Goldy/Minson combo that you'll have to match or minimize. You don't want a Blicavs in there against that. Good luck.

        BestCoastEagles · 09/08/2013 at 12:45

        Minor calf strain says Carlton, the same Carlton that said Gibbs had a minor calf strain and missed 5 weeks.

        Skintip · 10/08/2013 at 23:32

        Kreuzer is injured mate and will miss more than one. Carlton needed to win every game and 'resting' Kreuzer is a bit of a ridiculous thought- especially against Minson. I wouldn't be surprised if the big man has played his last game for the year. Blues won't make finals and Malthouse needs to decide whether Warnock is worth keeping or getting rid of.

        Of course this is just opinion- but there is no logic to resting Kreuz- so be wary that he may miss the rest of the year.

    Watto · 08/08/2013 at 20:26

    Check if your opposition has a zero, many people are in this position.
    Who is you other non playing ruck man? Could you trade them? How confident are you are winning and will you risk it this week for a better team next week and the next? Kreuzer has been in ripping form and it would be a shame to trade him.

    I'd upgrade staker to Martin or perhaps if you have a Rockcliff,Harvey,or Johnson in your mid to a Fyfe, or Watson.

      James · 08/08/2013 at 20:53

      Only have Currie and McBean as backup, can bring Cox up into the ruck but backup in the forward line is Kennedy and Danhier so either way I'd score a zero. My only loss during the season was to the opponent I'm playing so I do need everyone playing. His only non-scoring player this week was going to be Buddy Franklin but he has Jeremy Howe on the bench. I'm thinking Kreuzer to Minson as he has a better run home than Goldy.


        Super_Freak · 09/08/2013 at 12:33

        If you really want to keep Kreuzer, you could trade out one of your rookies for Grimley. Has been named on bench this week. It will make you a little cash for upgrading, but his score may not be much better than a donut.

    davidzita1 · 08/08/2013 at 21:23

    Get rid of Kreuzer, bring in Goldy or Minson. Also upgrade Staker to Martin.

    BestCoastEagles · 09/08/2013 at 12:48

    Kreuzer to Minson, Staker to D Mart.

JS7 · 08/08/2013 at 19:06

Make sure you have emergency cover for both Priddis & Ibbotson – would not be surprised if they are late outs.

    Devilz · 09/08/2013 at 13:43

    Agreed – will most likey trade Priddis to Fyfe – pending teams also have Ibbo on bench with Staker coving

Alex · 08/08/2013 at 19:13

Is michael walters a good selection?

Remy · 08/08/2013 at 19:17

Sam Grimley? JS Is not good but I only need him to (hopefully) cover Kreuze for 1 week……

Remy · 08/08/2013 at 19:22

I'll have 0 trades left if I do this trade!;(

    Remy · 08/08/2013 at 19:23

    Good trade?

      throttlefinger · 08/08/2013 at 20:42

      Might want to save a trade, Remy. Is your ruck situation more dire? Barlow will get you consistent points whereas JPK has been up and down all season (which feels like a fart that never goes away). If Blicavs is your R2, I'd do that trade. If not, go Barlow.

        Remy · 08/08/2013 at 21:52

        I have Goldstein, Kruezer, Nicholls and Blicavs.
        Problem is I cannot go straight from JPK to Barlow:( I am cash restricted so I need to trade two out to get Barlow, however I play 1st place this week and he has JPK and Blicavs…. But I'm in a bit of a pickle to be honest, I need help!

          Remy · 08/08/2013 at 21:57

          In short I really, really want to win!

            throttlefinger · 08/08/2013 at 23:40

            No use having two trades when your season is done, right?

            Blicavs his R2, Remy? Regardless, Brundy is playing against the swans forest of bigs. Could mean big SC points or a dud. Brundy has some mad dog in him so I'd think more the former. Blicavs is hitting the Vlastuin Wall. Shocked if he goes 80+. More important, fantastic POD with Barlow and Brundy against your opponent. Plus both will be solid contributors if you win and Nicholls returns.

              Remy · 09/08/2013 at 07:56

              The guy I'm playing has a full premo team, hasn't lost a single game all season…….. Last time I checked he had Blicavs as his R2 but now he has Will Minson…… If I am to win this week i'll need to make one trade at least.
              My team is……
              DEF Goddard, Gibbs, D. Pearce, Ibbotson, Carlisle, B. Ellis (Birchall, Thorlow)
              MID Gary, Pendles, Swan, Selwood, Steven, Jac. Redden, JPK, Hannebery (Mitchell, Hill)
              RUC Goldstein, Kreuzer, Nicholls, Blicavs
              FWD Stevie J, Martin, Roughead, JJK, Buddy, Mayes (Macaffer, Daniher)
              Who should I trade out Throttlefinger???? Under performing players include Carlisle, Mayes and JPK
              I Can go JPK to anyone under 500k.
              What should I do????????

                throttlefinger · 09/08/2013 at 08:57

                You need someone to replace Buddy. Don't think Macaffer will get the job done. Swap for Cox. Or downgrade Blicavs for Brundy and get Rockliff, if you can. Or Walker…although many have him. Would roll the dice on JPK and hope he gets up for the Pies. Seems your Fwd and Ruck would be the best spend of those last two trades.

                Tylo · 09/08/2013 at 09:21

                Mate with only 2 trades left you would be crazy to dump JPK. He might be having a bad patch but is still a true premium, you have bigger problems than him. You do have a double chance remember. If this guy hasnt lost a game all year I would be biding my time til the granny if I were you.

                BestCoastEagles · 09/08/2013 at 12:24

                Look at your Rucks Remy. Don't worry about trading JPK. Trade Kreuz for Sandilands and Spuddy to Rockliff

Will · 08/08/2013 at 19:23

Who would you bring in out of these- Jack, Dangerfield, Beams, Griffen, selwood, steven and o'keefe for a final midfield upgrade.

    Remy · 08/08/2013 at 20:27

    Griffen or Jack or Dangerfield or Beams or Selwood, lel they're all good picks Will.

    throttlefinger · 08/08/2013 at 20:40

    Griffen for sure. Surprisingly not many STILL don't have him. And he's been golden for going ton. 122 average…can't miss on that.

      Remy · 08/08/2013 at 21:53

      Completely agree

      Super_Freak · 09/08/2013 at 12:43

      Agree Throttle. Reckon he has been my best trade in all season.

    Will · 08/08/2013 at 22:11

    Thanks I'll get griffen then

    ShinbonerSpirit · 09/08/2013 at 09:48

    Griffen only just ahead of Dangerfield (the price difference sways me).

    Devilz · 09/08/2013 at 13:45

    Griffen – If u can make it too the Granny then he might win it for you. Plays deez round 23

Sainter · 08/08/2013 at 19:25

Mr Crimmo and Jock, it's a must win game for me with no second chance.

Basically I have Nicholls as R2 who is not playing and no back up as Blicavs not names, I only have 1 trade left and literally $1000 in the bank. This means I can only straight swap Nicholls out – but who for? This is the list, really appreciate some strategic advice hear with previous history and the weekend opposition.

Pederson, Bellchambers, Giles, Jacobs, Vardy, Pyke.

    Will · 08/08/2013 at 19:30

    out of those I would probably get Bellchambers or Vardy as I see much upside in them over players like Jacobs and Giles who look like averaging the same throughout the rest of the season

    Super_Freak · 09/08/2013 at 12:52

    Can you swap fwd to ruck (cox, roughy) and trade in a fwd instead of one of those guys. Couple of blokes in that price range that may score better than the ruck options you have listed. Bock looked OK in his first game back last week. 71pts from about 3/4 of a game then was subbed off. Should get better as his fitness improves

Luke · 08/08/2013 at 19:26

Hey guys, which option looks better for this week?

Option A:

Nicholls – Grundy
Mitchell – Watson

Option B:

Goodes – Dixon
Staker – Deledio (via Rockliff)

2 trades left and 11k in kitty.

Cheers guys

    Luke · 08/08/2013 at 19:29

    Playing qualifying finals in all of the leagues I made top 8 in, so I think the time to make the moves is now I reckon.

      throttlefinger · 08/08/2013 at 20:39

      Option A. As Mr. C pointed out, Watson, even with coming back from injury and playing in the rain, went ton against the Pies. Grundy is a bit of a risk but is playing this weekend so it's a good sign. You may only want to make the Mitchell trade. Who is your other rucks?

    davidzita1 · 08/08/2013 at 21:18

    Option A mate, Jolly struggling to get up and Watson continues to thrive under pressure

    chandanrajdb · 09/08/2013 at 08:49

    Hi Luke…..

    Why dont you try….the below option…..

    OUT: Goodes & Staker
    IN: H Scotland & Jobe Watson……or even Pavlich……..


    Super_Freak · 09/08/2013 at 12:53

    Would steer clear of Lids. Has burnt me badly since bringing him in a couple of months ago. Doesn't like the tag.

      throttlefinger · 09/08/2013 at 14:55

      Lids has given me first-degree burns too. Avoid.

Raff · 08/08/2013 at 19:29

Brains fried, can someone try and explain the emergency loophole and how best to use it, would be much appreciated

    throttlefinger · 08/08/2013 at 21:22

    The idea is to name a player in an early game as your vice-captain and the "C" on someone who plays later in the weekend. If your VC scores poorly, leave your "C" on a star and take double his score. However, if your VC pumps out a huge score, simply shift your "C" to a non-scoring player (eg Ablett) and you'll get double your vice-captain's score when final scores are tallied on Sunday night.

      raff · 08/08/2013 at 21:50

      thx throttlefinger as i said brain is fried I meant to ask about the rookie emergency loophole sorry

        throttlefinger · 08/08/2013 at 23:41

        Shit man, I don't even know about that…maybe my brain is frying too.

          Tylo · 09/08/2013 at 09:37

          Raff, you need a lot of things to fall into place for it to work. First you need just 1 non-playing player on that line. Start him on the ground with the 'E' on the bench player who is playing first. If the emergency player scores high, you leave it like that and get his score (but remember if there are any late withdrawals you will have no emergency cover left). If the emergency scores low, you move the non-playing player onto the bench and get the other player's score.

davidzita1 · 08/08/2013 at 19:38

Griffen, Stevie J or Cotchin for Captain's loophole?

    JS7 · 08/08/2013 at 20:02

    Griff dog.

      throttlefinger · 08/08/2013 at 20:36

      Agree. Griff is on fire. Guaranteed 120+.

        throttlefinger · 08/08/2013 at 21:07

        See who your opponent is looping. Chances are they'll have Gazza as cap. The loop is for risks so recommend seeing who they are looping so you don't lap scores. The loop could be a saving POD. Had 2 wins earned solely on my loop choice.

James · 08/08/2013 at 19:55

Goldstein, Minson or Sandilands?

    throttlefinger · 08/08/2013 at 20:35

    Goldy. Been playing consistently well, getting most of the hit outs and racking up solid scores.

Ryan · 08/08/2013 at 20:44

Is it worth taking Priddis out? Or Tom Mitchell and put Priddis on my bench. If I did, who would you get out of Kieran Jack, Mitchell and Barlow?

Also, want to trade Staker out in my FWD. Martin, Walker or Boomer?

    chandanrajdb · 09/08/2013 at 08:52

    OUT: Priddis & Staker
    IN: Jack & Dusty……IMO


Osh · 08/08/2013 at 20:48

Unfortunately only have 1 trade left who should I upgrade: Staker, Franklin or Nicholls? NEED HELP!!!!!!!!

    Super_Freak · 09/08/2013 at 12:56

    Tough one. I would keep Staker as he is playing. I would try to bring in a premium fwd if possible. Depends on your cash as to who you trade out.

Victor · 08/08/2013 at 20:56

Hey guys, have a massive decision to make. This week is a must win for me, for I'm in 2 elimination finals. I need to get rid of Staker and Franklin, and which one trade left, who should I get rid of? I have 3k in the bank, and Lee is my forward bench cover while Docherty is my defence cover (Staker is DEF for me)

Thanks guys

    CHRIS · 09/08/2013 at 01:43

    franklin. staker is playing.

      Super_Freak · 09/08/2013 at 12:59

      Agree. Lee did play well last week, but that may be a fluke. Staker should bounce back. Has been really consistent till the last couple.

davidzita1 · 08/08/2013 at 20:57

Punt Buddy, Docherty a better scorer than Lee, Staker at least has decent run home

    Victor · 08/08/2013 at 21:03

    Lately Lee seems to be scoring okay, but isn't consistent in output high scores while Docherty consistently outputs average scores, also with Brown out, will Staker be predominantly playing in the forward line?

MATT · 08/08/2013 at 21:02

has anyone esle heard mundy will be a late out for fremantle.

    Devilz · 09/08/2013 at 13:49

    has a sore ankle – was 50/50 during the week according to Ross the Boss, I reckon he is a fair chance to be rested for this week.

    U might need to save a trade for Sunday and if he is a late withdraw you can trade him into Fyfe, Barlow or Pav

davidzita1 · 08/08/2013 at 21:04

Have 2 trades left, is it worth trading Priddis to Selwood or K.Jack?

If so, which one do I get?

    Jimbeard18 · 08/08/2013 at 23:25

    I'd go sellwood has more reliability for mine and should thrive the catters fighting for a home final

    BestCoastEagles · 09/08/2013 at 12:16

    Selwood just David. Can go wrong with either.

    Devilz · 09/08/2013 at 13:53

    Selwood – he loves playing at skilled, should pull some big scores.

    I have had Jack all season, his a gun and probably my best pick however with his last 2 scores of 140+ he will most likely pull out a low 100 this week.

James · 08/08/2013 at 21:15

Who to get in for Franklin, Jarryd Roughead or Aaron Sandilands?

    davidzita1 · 08/08/2013 at 21:36

    Great Southern Sandiland for me mate, easy run home, he'll dominate

      James · 08/08/2013 at 22:32

      Thanks mate.

    BestCoastEagles · 09/08/2013 at 12:15

    Sandi by a country mile. Can score with the best Premo mid's when on

Damien · 08/08/2013 at 21:39

Whos a good ruck whos around 350k ish atm? For dreamteam

Johnny · 08/08/2013 at 21:43

Who should i play? Tom Mitchell or Brad Crouch?

    Sully321 · 08/08/2013 at 21:45


      Johnny · 08/08/2013 at 21:50

      Was there a reason for Mitchell's bad score last week? Or has his form ran out

        davidzita1 · 08/08/2013 at 21:54

        Got tagged by Liam Picken, speaks volumes to how good he's been playing, get the feeling he won't get the same attention from Pies, expecting 100+

          Sully321 · 09/08/2013 at 17:42

          Agree Collingwood don't even tag ablett!!!!

      Remy · 08/08/2013 at 21:59

      Be wary of the dreaded tag….. Tom got his first tag last week and struggled.

        Remy · 08/08/2013 at 22:00

        So I reckon 50/50

    throttlefinger · 09/08/2013 at 07:44

    Say Crouch. He's play has been better each round. Went ton the last two rounds. Can't see Roos slowing him down. Mitchell…can't see him doing much against the Pies.

    Super_Freak · 09/08/2013 at 13:01

    Yeah definitely 50/50. Crouch been really good lately, but Mitchell could post big score if Pies don't tag him.

Jake · 08/08/2013 at 22:09

Mini dilemma here, got 2 rucks and 1 spot…

Who should i play out of Grundy and Grimely.
Considering they are both averaging the same…

    CHRIS · 09/08/2013 at 01:46


    chandanrajdb · 09/08/2013 at 08:43

    IMO……Grimley has a good chance of scoring well against St Kilda……whereas Grundy playing against Swans he wont be scoring too much…….


@Jacko2128 · 08/08/2013 at 22:17

Currently have kreuzer, with sam rowe as cover on field. I have the double chance also. With 3 trades and 300k left, do I hold Kreuzer OR trade him for a pavlich or goldstein?

    @Jacko2128 · 08/08/2013 at 22:19

    And play duff man or clisby??

      Remy · 09/08/2013 at 07:58

      Play Duff over Clisby

    Super_Freak · 09/08/2013 at 13:04

    Would hold if you need the trades somewhere else, but is a risk with Rowe. Potential for OK score or terrible score.

Smithy · 08/08/2013 at 22:49

Good idea to play Viney over Tom Mitchell for better consistency?

Would like some thumbs up or thumbs down..

    adam · 08/08/2013 at 22:52

    r u crazy viney for sure

    ShinbonerSpirit · 09/08/2013 at 09:53

    Shouldn't be playing either of them at this stage.

    BestCoastEagles · 09/08/2013 at 12:12

    Both should only be cover at this time of the year. Mitchell for mine.

Jimbeard18 · 08/08/2013 at 23:16

Should I bring in Mayne (POD and easy run home), Maric (Proven ability and will want to bring it home for the tigers) or really risk it and bring in Cyril??

    Johnny · 08/08/2013 at 23:20

    Mayne would be the best option

    ShinbonerSpirit · 09/08/2013 at 09:54

    I'm actually going to say Maric. Richmond are looking like a top 4 side, and Ivan is a vital part of that. My guess is he'll come home strong.

Rememberthetitans · 09/08/2013 at 01:05

All the best to supercoaches for the finals !!

Any suggestions on trade advice for the up coming weeks , finished 2nd in my league , though thinking will need some luck in the run home , was too active trading

Side is

Backs – gibbs, Goddard , h shaw, enright ,dufffield , ibbo (staker, Wilson )

Mids – ablett, Pendles, swan , Steve j , fyfe , priddis , j Kennedy , tmitch (crouch, Martin)

Rucks – maric , leuy (currie, Grundy)

Fwds – bartel , cox , walker , buddy, Kennedy, rocky (mcaff and lee)

3 trades $250k in the bank

Few holes .. Was banking on freo with an easy run home with ibbo and dufffield .. Should I pick up Hanley or hArry Taylor with a few games at skilled


Let the backs roll haven’t been that productive

Upgrade priddis (might be a late withdrawal I’m thinking) and tmitch to 2 a grades

Or 1 mid (Barlow/griffin) and buddy to Martin

Decisions ?? :/

Thanks for the input lads , good luck

    chandanrajdb · 09/08/2013 at 08:45

    IMO……1 mid……Griffen……and Buddy to Dusty sounds like two good trades mate…..


    Tylo · 09/08/2013 at 09:57

    Maybe Macaffer to 1 of the Hendersons. He can cover Buddy for this week then swing back to give you an option over Duffman or Ibbo after that.

    Super_Freak · 09/08/2013 at 13:15

    I would much rather have Staker on the ground than Mac or Duff the burnman. Could swing staker forward and trade mac to Hanley (Duff on the bench). Would only leave you about 50k for an upgrade though.

    Either way, I would sub Staker for Duff, just my opinion though

Rocksta · 09/08/2013 at 02:39

I just traded Staker for the Duffman as need the POD.

Am I crazy?

    James · 09/08/2013 at 07:23


      throttlefinger · 09/08/2013 at 07:46

      Could be a great move. Playing GWS. Risks no rewards. Be surprised if Staker did better than the Duffman.

    davidzita1 · 09/08/2013 at 07:47

    Seek medical attention immediately Rocksta 🙂

    ShinbonerSpirit · 09/08/2013 at 09:55

    Terminally. Duff is burning me. Don't do it.

    Gilly · 09/08/2013 at 11:11

    I've got them both and I am trying to work out which to use as D6, leaning towards Duffman. I don't think that I would trade Staker to Duffman though

    BestCoastEagles · 09/08/2013 at 12:11

    Duffman & Ibbo have been missing McPharlin. If it was me i would steer clear of Duffman

Virtual · 09/08/2013 at 07:50

With Nicholls not back this week I need to sort out my R2. Given Freo's run home I'm looking at Pavlich via Cox DPP, but I'll need to double trade to make it happen.

Some options for second trade are Staker to Grundy as R2 (leaving Cox FWD) or maybe Lewis Johnston as F6. Both Grundy/Johnston would only play this week.

I have 3 trades left before trading this week, (I have Franklin so if I don't trade it would mean plying BOTH Stake & /Macaffer)

Another option is Sandilands into Ruck and leave Cox FWD.


    BestCoastEagles · 09/08/2013 at 12:09

    Sandilands and move Cox forward. Big Sandi Balls is going to be the X Factor. Have bought him in this week myself

raff · 09/08/2013 at 08:01

can someone try and explain the emergency rookie loophole thingy and how best to use it, would be much appreciated

    Tylo · 09/08/2013 at 10:00

    see above

Mike · 09/08/2013 at 08:06

Have Buddy, Staker on ground + Macaffer as emerg. Do I upgrade Staker and hope Macaffer does ok, or upgrade Franklin and have Staker play instead of Macaffer?

    BestCoastEagles · 09/08/2013 at 12:06

    If it was me i would upgrade Spuddy. Macaffer is playing a tagging role so i can't see him smacking anything decent.

David · 09/08/2013 at 09:31

Have 2 trades, is it worth using one to upgrade Staker to Pav? Won't be able to afford him next week

    BestCoastEagles · 09/08/2013 at 11:46

    Great move David. Big Pav will take the game by the scruff of the neck after his forced lay off. Freo's easy finals run no chance of been rested. Leaves you 1 trade in the sky rocket for emergencies. Finals time you have to think out side the square and take a few risk's anyway.

God · 09/08/2013 at 09:51

griffen or watson? got the cash for both and 2 trades left. Griffen has an ideal finals run, but at 80k more restricts the quality of my last trade. thoughts?

    David · 09/08/2013 at 11:23

    You're God, you don't need advice

    BestCoastEagles · 09/08/2013 at 11:51

    Watson will drop another 40k this week if you can hold of on him. I would normally say Griffin ( Points Pig) but that extra cash will come in handy.

Mick · 09/08/2013 at 10:28

DEF – Goddard, Enright, Heppell, Shaw, Gibbs, Duffield (Clisby, Thurlow)
MID – Ablett, Pendlebury, Swan, Selwood, Barlow, JPK, Cotchin, Priddis (Mitchell, Saunders)
RUC – Minson, Nicholls (Osborn, McBean)
FWD – Cox, Rockliff, Bartel, JJKennedy, Franklin, Johnson (Staker, B.Kennedy

1 trade left with 183k what should i do? Any thoughts or suggestions muchly appreciated

    Curtid · 09/08/2013 at 12:07

    Nicholls out for grundy

    Tylo · 09/08/2013 at 12:10

    Nicholls to Walker or Martin

    Curtis · 09/08/2013 at 12:16

    or Nicholls out cox to ruc and get in wellingham

Zimmer · 09/08/2013 at 10:51

What's Grigg's (Adel) JS like for the rest of the year? Thinking of using him to make some cash. Anyone?

Ryan · 09/08/2013 at 11:03

Jack, Fyfe or Watson? I'm leaning towards Fyfe. Or Watson. Actually I'm not sure. Fyfe has an easy run home but Watson looks fresh, while Jack is killing it. Please help!

Alex · 09/08/2013 at 11:29

Has anyone got any information about Pendlebury and Priddis? hearing that they might not play. Will cop a doughnut if they both don't play.

    BestCoastEagles · 09/08/2013 at 12:35

    Heard the same very nervous indeed. Do you have any trades left Alex ?

Curtis · 09/08/2013 at 12:07

Kieren Jack or Ryan griffin

    Tylo · 09/08/2013 at 12:13


BestCoastEagles · 09/08/2013 at 12:30

Crimmo ya Ol veteran, great advice on Big Sandi Man. It's finals time and time to think outside the square. Risk people say it's finals time and risk is the name of the game. NO BALLS NO GLORY !!. Good luck to everybody for the Finals

Zimmer · 09/08/2013 at 13:25

Have a couple of dilemmas. Any advice would be good. 4 trades left around 50k in the bank. Thinking of making 2 trades this week.

Have got Staker as M8 at the moment. Have also got Zorko as F8 and Mayes on the bench. Thinking of trading Mayes to Scotland, (swinging Staker fwd).

After that, so close to being able to do a number of things but 5 and 10k off. Want to get rid of Zorko, but don't quite have the cash to do anything significant. ie Sandi or Pav.

Other than that was thinking of turning Priddis into Sam Mitchell.

Any advice welcome. Team as it stands below.

Def: Goddard, Heppell, Shaw, Gibbs, McKenzie, Staker (Hutchins, Thurlow)
Mid: Ablett, Pendles, J.Selwood, Kennedy JP, Cotchin, Watson, Mundy, Priddis (T. Mitchell, Hrovat)
Rk: Goldstein, Cox (Rowe, McBean)
Fwd: Walker, Rockliff, Roughead, Kennedy JJ, Johnson S, Zorko (Mayes, Kennedy B)

ShinbonerSpirit · 09/08/2013 at 14:18

Griffen should go big for those who don't want to go with Ablett as captain for whatever reason (Jordie McKenzie's inclusion?). Robbo, Carrazzo and Kreuzer out. Minson will dominate in ruck, giving first ball use to Ryan Griffen who won't be tagged by Carrazzo or Robinson.

    JS7 · 09/08/2013 at 15:17

    Curnow has been Blues number 1 taggger so I would expect him to neutralise Griffin to some extent.

    Tylo · 09/08/2013 at 17:31

    expecting Gibbs to go to Griffen

    Johnny · 09/08/2013 at 18:56

    Whats the reasoning behind not putting Ablett as captain this week? Considering they are VSing Melboune

      ShinbonerSpirit · 09/08/2013 at 20:01

      There is none. I'm picking him myself. He should destroy Melbourne. Only blip is the inclusion of McKenzie, who is a tagger, but that shouldn't make a difference. Just putting out a different captain choice or at least a good loophole option.

trader · 09/08/2013 at 14:25

Help please. I have 1 trade left. I am full in the MIDs, but I need an extra FWD or DEF and I've made a call that out of those I don't already have, Charlie Dixon is ready to smash the teams ahead in the superb run home the Suns have. What I want to do is trade out TMitchell, send Ben Kennedy from FWD to MID, leaving room to switch Staker from my D6 to F7 and then allowing Dixon to come in as my D6.

When I trade Mitchell and move Kennedy into the MID, the system then won't let me sub Staker from Def to Fwd.

Has anyone had that problem and found a solution?

    Bruce · 09/08/2013 at 16:22

    Unfortunately it can not be done. You can only make one substitution per trade.

Raff · 09/08/2013 at 14:38

sorry people but can someone try and explain the emergency rookie loophole thingy and how best to use it, I know the captains loophole but staker vs clisby…….could be the difference

    Zimmer · 09/08/2013 at 15:09

    Reply below Raff.

    Bruce · 09/08/2013 at 16:25

    Can't be done if both reserves are playing, or if your non players team plays first.

    Tylo · 09/08/2013 at 17:33

    I put an explanation to your earlier comment Raff

Zimmer · 09/08/2013 at 15:03

Brisbane is playing first, so you have Staker as your backline emergency, and you have Clisby on the ground. You'll also need a non-playing backman who plays after Brisbane, who you leave on your bench.

If you have all these elements, you see what score Staker gets. If its a good one, you put the non playing back on the field and Clisby on the bench.

If you don't want to take Staker's, ie. go with Clisby, you don't change anything. Because he remains on the ground you get his score.

Hope that makes sense.

    Zimmer · 09/08/2013 at 15:04

    Sorry, I meant to post this as a reply to Raff.

    raff · 09/08/2013 at 15:16

    Cheers Zimmer much appreciated

spinnerau1 · 09/08/2013 at 15:19

G'day community!!

Just a simple request: In order of best to worst, who of the following will have the better scoring week this week?

Tom Lee

Popular concensus will dictate who I will play this week, a win meaning I get the week off next week!


    ShinbonerSpirit · 09/08/2013 at 15:24


spinnerau1 · 09/08/2013 at 15:54

Cheers Shinboner!

Sully321 · 09/08/2013 at 16:22

My midfield before any trades this week is
Ablett, Selwood, pendles, jack, JPK, cotchin, danger, Priddis, t.Mitchell, crouch

Got 3 trades left and about $26,000 in the bank

I was thinking out Priddis and in fyfe but I also have buddy and have staker or Rowe as cover for him. I'm still thinking Priddis to fyfe or martin, bartel or Mitchell


David · 09/08/2013 at 16:23

Staker-Pavlich or Priddis to someone like K.Jack or Selwood?

Mike · 09/08/2013 at 16:41

Hey guys, who has more potential, Sandi or Pav?

    Sully321 · 09/08/2013 at 16:44

    I'd take sandi as a good POD and playing tiring Gilles this week

    ShinbonerSpirit · 09/08/2013 at 17:15

    Sandilands. Scoring shouldn't be affected by the game result.

    dannyboy · 09/08/2013 at 17:36

    yeah sandi for sure. pav a bit iffy with his match fitness

    BrianB · 10/08/2013 at 09:34

    Who would i pick Sandilands. Who has the more potential to post big scores Pavlich by a country mile. Both under done as far as matches this year and i think Freo forwards are a lot better this year. Big Sandi is coming up against no quality rucks so i think he should post the better scores for the remainder of the year. Both at bargain prices.

BigJanks · 09/08/2013 at 17:14

How long until the extended benches are named? It's 12am in San Fran and it's a work night. Can't make my move until I know whether or not Priddis will play. I know he was on the flight to Melbourne thanks to twitter.

There are 8 PODs with the guy I'm playing and based on the projections he has me by 2 points. I've been keeping track of each team this year and he has 4 trades left. I assume that he will use 2 to ensure a win.

Should I trade Priddis with the injury cloud and upgrade him to a POD gun (Beams, Jack, Jobe)? Or should I trade him for someone that my foe has (Griffen, Selwood, Cotchin, Stevie J)?

Or should I do the above with T.Mitchell and if Priddis is out I can always use Crouch as my Emergency since he is slated to start as a rover?

Guy I'm playing has Priddis and T.Mitchell both in his current line-up. I suspect that he will be trading Mitchell for an upgrade so I'm leaning towards doing that as well since his Emergency for Priddis would be either Kommer or Mayes.


    ShinbonerSpirit · 09/08/2013 at 17:16

    Mate, chances are Priddis will be named in the final squad, but late outs are always a possibility, with West Coast's game on Sunday. How many trades do you have left, and is it an elimination or qualifying?

      BigJanks · 09/08/2013 at 17:33

      I'm in an elimination with 3 trades and $400. So I will need to burn 2 trades, a down grade (Thinking Nichols to a WB Ruckman that I can utilize for my VC loophole as the dogs have Saturday night then 3 straight Sunday games to end the year) and then an upgrade to finalize my last midfield spot. My team would basically be complete and I'd save my final trade for an unforeseen injury….if I win.

      I just saw that the benches were named. Gonna stick with Priddis as Crouch is a fine Emergency. I actually hope he is a late withdrawl as my coverage with Crouch is better than Mayes/Kommer.

      I've checked the analyser and his team has increased it's projection by 28 pts. I've added the 28pts to the guys I think that he could trade (Mitchell, Priddis) and those totals are 119 and 122….There are no mid fielders with those projections this week.

      So I went to his forward line and the only viable option for him to trade would be staker. Adding 28 pts to his total gives 115 which both D Martin and Harvey are projected.

      My guess is that he has done a downgrade to get the extra $100K to snag one of these guys.

      I have Martin so that could take away a POD for me…

      He is now projected to win by 30. The only way I can make up 30 is if I go Mitchell to a POD (between us- (Beams, Jack, Jobe, Danger)) or nullify one of his PODs (Griffen, Selwood, Cotchin, Stevie J)

      Thoughts Shinboner? Thanks for the help….Nothing like stressing at 12:30am!

        ShinbonerSpirit · 09/08/2013 at 17:47

        If it's an elimination, you have no choice but to use the two trades. The problem here is that we're assuming Priddis will be out. I think that's unlikely, but try the following. Make only one downgrade now (depends on your team) and wait for the WCE game (what time would that be over there?). If Priddis is a late out, trade him for either Danger or Fyfe.

        You could always go straight to Beams/Watson now, but chances are you'll be trading out Priddis for absolutely no reason. If Priddis is named, that downgrade you made can creates cash for next week.

          BigJanks · 09/08/2013 at 17:56

          I think I'm going to keep Priddis (we both have him) and hope that he is a late withdrawal. As my Emergency in the Mid is Crouch whereas he has Kommer or Mayes.

          Since it's a crap shoot on who to choose as my Mitchell upgrade (downgrading Nichols to Cordy) I'm going Stevie J as if I win I'll need the mid/fwd flexibility since non of my current mids have dual positions other than Vlastuin.

          Thanks for the help mate.

            ShinbonerSpirit · 09/08/2013 at 17:57

            Good luck mate.

dannyboy · 09/08/2013 at 17:23

who should i trade buddy for, boomer or bartel?

    ShinbonerSpirit · 09/08/2013 at 17:25

    If money isn't an issue, Boomer.

      dannyboy · 09/08/2013 at 17:33

      got 3 trades and 260k left. if i go staker to heater and buddy to boomer that will leave me with 1 trade and 78k. if i go bartel instead ill have 1 trade with 149k in the kick. that is probably to much to leave for one trade so im leaning towards boomer anyway. cheers shinboner

@Jacko2128 · 09/08/2013 at 17:37

Which option, currently have 3 trades and 300k with a double-chance for finals:

1. Trade tommy mitchell to Boomer Harvey or pav or mayne?

2. Trade Kreuzer to Goldstein or minson?

3. Both these trades, leaving me with 1 left ?

    ShinbonerSpirit · 09/08/2013 at 17:59

    Kreuzer to Goldstein/Minson (flip of a coin). Trades like this is what trade-hoarding for the finals was meant for: covering major injuries/omissions.

      @Jacko2128 · 09/08/2013 at 18:10

      got goldy in, now i have 2 trades and 329 k. I have staker, Jacobs, duff man and zorko on field this week .

    Jack · 09/08/2013 at 18:08

    are you in a winning position without trading? is Mitchell on field? if you have no other ruck cover I'd be trading Kreuzer

      @Jacko2128 · 09/08/2013 at 18:17

      mitchell is on bench with crouch and itll be close. I have Jacobs and roughy in rucks before gettin goldy in.

        @Jacko2128 · 09/08/2013 at 18:20

        so i have ruck cover. does this mean that trading mitchell for a forward via ben kennedy would be a better option??

@Jacko2128 · 09/08/2013 at 17:39

4. trade tommy mitchell to stokes

[email protected] K1nG · 09/08/2013 at 18:01

Whats a better option?

In: Jobe Watson and B.Harvey/A.Walker

Or In: R.Griffen / Kieran Jack and any forward under 466,000?


    Skintip · 10/08/2013 at 23:39

    watson harvey

Jack · 09/08/2013 at 18:05

All my opponents have Goddard and Bartel and I can trade only one in. Who is likely to pull out a big score and be damaging to my winning chances? Thanks community

    ShinbonerSpirit · 09/08/2013 at 18:15

    Goddard for mine. With Watson back, won't be receiving the brunt of the opposition attention anymore, and is in better form.

      Jack · 09/08/2013 at 22:42

      Thanks for the response mate.

Tebble · 09/08/2013 at 18:32

should i play viney or tom mitchell?

    James · 09/08/2013 at 19:01

    Viney mate

    Nic · 09/08/2013 at 19:12

    T Mitchell

George · 09/08/2013 at 18:39

Thoughts on Mitch Grigg from Adelaide???????? Came on as sub against Port (sometime in Q3?) and scored 96. Good trade down option for T. Mitchell???????

Nic · 09/08/2013 at 19:11

Swan or Ablett as captain?

    ShinbonerSpirit · 09/08/2013 at 20:02


      Skintip · 10/08/2013 at 23:41

      I guess Jelwood will score around 155 and GAJ about 65 so go Jelwood I reckon….

      Just being a smart arse I am- I went Jelwood VC so I was one of the luckier ones. Ablett stunk it up and may have some niggles

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