Tight Arse Tuesday – Round 17

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Supercoach strategy with Mick

Good day community and welcome to this week’s edition of “Tight Arse Tuesday”.

With only three weeks of games remaining in the AFL Supercoach home and away season, now is the time to make a move if you are struggling to make the top 4, the 8 or even them bottom 8 depending on your current circumstances and team.

This column is aimed at those who are short on cash but are looking for a viable option that will give them a POD and hopefully a way to bag those all-important four points in every week of the run home. Based on the comments I get weekly I think this has been lost on some of my beloved community.

Please understand that if you have the money and maybe a few more trades than most, there will always be safer, more recognisable premiums that might offer you more security. However that’s not saying that a premium can’t fall so much in price that they won’t feature, as we have had our fair share of fallen premiums already this year and we have one more for you today.

Marc Murphy

Average 90.86
Breakeven 104
Current Price $376,800
Priced to Average 73.3
Owned by 17,648 teams (5.68%)

I hope you have all listened to this week’s Podcast by now and if you have you’ll know that Wayno’s hot tip is Marc Murphy and once again I feel Wayno has delivered for the community. Follow the man himself on twitter by clicking here. I’ve told him I own him a few 4X for his troubles (of course I will be waiting until he turns 18 before he gets them).

Marc Murphy is at a ridiculous price this week and I have to keep double checking that I have entered the correct price up above. But for all those rubbing their eyes, this is the correct figure. It is normally a big surprise when an elite premium falls below the $500k mark but it’s not too often that an elite falls below the $400k marc. In fact I can’t recall another time that a proven elite (as in they have averaged over 110 for three years in a row) have fallen to this level. I’m sure somebody in the community will correct me.

So in case you aren’t aware of Marc’s level of consistency these are his averages over the last five years.

Marc Murphy past season

As you can see Murphy has found himself in the Super Elite range for the last four years with his lowest yearly average been 111.9 in that time period. He had is best year in 2011 with an average of 118.05 but what many might be unaware or have forgotten is that he would have averaged 117.68 last season if you discount his score of 38 in round 8 where is sustained a shoulder injury that kept him out for 7 rounds.

So why is he so cheap now?

The answer to this question isn’t as straight forward as in other weeks and is a little more complicated than the simple fact he had an injury effected score run through his three week average. Yes Marc got injured in round 12 where he suffered a broken cheek bone and a very score head from a bump from Luke Hodge. (Now I love you Luke but if that was Stevey J he would have got two weeks – oh how I hate the lucky bag punishment system that the MRP has adopted ). Sorry community, my little side rant is over, back on track now I promise.

Up until that point Marc wasn’t exactly setting the Supercoach world on fire, only averaging 101 before he was struck down with injury. At this point he was priced modestly at $508k anyway, and with a score of 22 in the round he was injured and 54 in his first game back, where he was clearly rushed back and probably needed another week or two, you can see why he has dropped over $125k in the last three weeks.
That is why he has dropped so low form the 500k mark but what we also need to examine why he dropped to the $500k mark in the first place, with his average hovering at the 100pts per game it was at the time of his injury. If we examine the stats comparing this year barring his injury affected game, with is best in 2011 we can see where the differentials are.

Marc Murphy stats

As you can see all of the major Supercoach scoring stats are down on his very best. Average disposals are down 3.1 per game, contested possessions are down 3.7 per game, clearances down 1.8 per game, efficiency is down 4%, and tackles are down 0.8 per game. All these stats are Supercoach gold and when these numbers go south so do the Supercoach scoring output.

There is an obvious reason for his reduction in output and one that can’t be overlooked if you are considering him as an option for the rest of the year. As Jock put it the captaincy is weighing very heavily on his shoulders and he has not performed as well as he is capable ever since he has been named the captain of the Carlton Football club.

Honestly I think it can sometimes be harder to take the captaincy over from a fellow player who is still playing alongside you every week, especially if that player is a modern day champion and superb leader in the form of Chris Judd. It would have been a lot easier if he had taken the role after Chris had retired but no changing that fact now. I believe that Marc has put extra pressure on himself to be seen actively leading and he appears to be concentrating on the leadership more than his own game, which has suffered as a result.

What he needs to learn is that there is a fine balance between being both – and that some of the very best captains in the competition lead by example. When Essendon need a centre clearance or a goal, more often than not it is Jobe Watson that provides it, which in turn lifts the other 21 players around. Judd has done that at the Blues, Selwood at Geelong, Ablett at the Goldcoast, Nick Maxwell at the Pies (lol sorry I couldn’t resist – we all know Pendlebury is the man down at the Pies).

I do believe Marc will grow into this role and become a fine captain but the big question remains is weather that will happen during the blues run home or is it more likely going to be next year? I am going to go out on a limb here and go with the former. I believe the pot is boiling and the lid is about to pop. If we look at Murphy’s run home we can see that he likes playing almost all of Carlton’s opponents and many of his Monster scores have come against these upcoming opponents.

Marc Murphy upcoming opponents
He has had monster scores of over 130 against all of these opponents in the past apart from the Bulldogs, however he averages the most against the doggies with 113.8 pts per game. Another reason why I like Murphy’s chances of improved output is the fact that Chris Judd has played himself into a little bit of form and may very well demand the number one tag for the run home, leaving Murphy off the lease. It might be a risky move bringing Marc in but I have got to go with my gut on this one and I believe Marc has a run of Monster scores in him and it is for that reasons Marc will be joining the Mayhem.

The Mad Irishman’s Verdict

2013 Predicted Status: Premium
Predicted Average from here on out: 112-117pts

Final Word

At worst he will come home averaging 100 and at that price I really don’t think you can lose. At best he comes home all guns blazing and you’ll look like a genius for bring him in?

Where does he sit for you?

Stay tuned..

Mick the Mad Irishman

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  1. Remy says:

    Lock, gun, proven premium. At 376,800!
    If he fits in your side, GET HIM IN!

  2. Robert says:

    Murphy plays for Carlton though……. everyone hates Carlton? Please help Jock???

  3. brentdurran says:

    so are you saying we should swap him for Tom Mitchell??

  4. Phillip says:

    Trade Vlastuin for murphy? Which means Tom Mitchell will need to go to the bench? But will only have $24,000 left. what do you think mick?

  5. Pieman1978 says:


    Corgrats on your position. It shows what learning from the JR community can achieve. Whilst I think Murph is an awesome trade in option it comes at an awkward time. I have to agree with Higgo & ask who to? Most people given the stupid amount of trades are full premium midfield, & full premium overall. If Murph was MPP it's a bargain you would see every 2-3 years.

    "your thoughts Mick"

  6. SCaddict says:

    You've swayed me Mick with all your fine arguments. Just upgraded Vlastuin to Smurf as the M8/M9 in Morgan's Maestros.

    So who will you be swapping Smurf for in Mad Mick's Mahem, Pridda or Titch or will this remain a trade secret until Sunday night?

    Could be a $50,000 decision! 🙂

    • Sam says:

      Mate, just checked out your team and 2544, seriously? Who was your captain?

      • SCaddict says:

        Nothing special just Gaz. Actually had Stevie J as VC but by time he went above 130 it was too late to use the loophole as the Suns game had already started so missed out on an extra 20pts.

  7. Jim says:

    what should i do with terlich?

    • James says:

      trade to Jack Grimes
      hes a gun averages 84 but if you take out the game he got injured and the game he returned he averages about 98
      And he is only $377,000
      Hes a lock for me

    • Pieman1978 says:

      Like all Turds. Send him to Werribee….for some time with the "two's"

  8. Kony says:

    Get rid of him…

  9. natedogg says:

    Hi Mick….let me ask you this. Who do you kick out of your midfield for Murphy??? Priddis or Cotchin are my weakest mids with tommy gun mitchell as emergency…

    • Mungo Man says:

      priddis! handballs to much. cotchin gets clerances by foot alot more!

    • Rocksta says:

      No one!
      Getting rid of Priddis or Cotchin for Murphy makes absolutely no sense and is a waste of a trade.

      • Dee says:

        What about trading Priddis for Watson when he eventually comes back? I reckon it’s a good trade just before the finals…. I have to agree, Priddis handballs way too much and doesn’t get any marks and hardly tackles! Priddis is not ultra premium! Watson is….. Thoughts?!

    • ShinbonerSpirit says:

      Agree with Rocksta. Waste of a traded if Priddis and Cotch are on the chopping block.

  10. JimBob says:

    Does anybody know how long the danger is out. Would it be worth trading him to Murphy?

    • Saltysalts says:

      Maybe not Murphy mate, unless you're desperate to generate some cash. I'd much prefer a straight swap for Barlow he is in incredible form.

      We are at the business end of the season so I'd be looking to swap like for like. Danger to Barlow is a solid option for similar scoring!

      If Barlow's already in your team, take a look at Swan, Selwood, Jack or even Stevie J if you can wait a week…(risky though)

      • JimBob says:

        Thanks was also considering Barlow. I already have Stevie J. I will probably get Barlow though. Thanks a lot!

    • dustin says:

      If you have a small number of trades left, just wait a week to see the extent of dangers injury because apparently its only a 1-2 week injury. If his out for more then 3 week which i doubt he is, then you should trade him to a elite premium like a barlow/swan/pendle/griffen/stevieJ

  11. Andy B says:

    Any concern on his hammy from last friday? With his BE of 102, was going to wait a week to see he has no issues with the hammy + scores 90+ this week.

  12. Kewgie says:

    A knew after the Friday game that Murphy was going to be in this article. Its sad because I have had him from the start. Hope the predicted average comes true.

  13. Pieman1978 says:

    Confucius says men who own pub at base of You Yangs national park are named Dean & Harry. Pub get called “teurdeliquor”. Welcome

  14. cotchandmurph says:

    yes i love murphy, i have been telling people that at this price he is a bargin,but i was going to bring him back in when he gets rid of the helmet,so when his confidence will be back

  15. James says:

    Not a bad downgrade option for those with O'meara, who are struggling for money

  16. Sam says:

    Isn't it spelt Marc* Murphy haha, anyways great article and congrats on being 19th overall.

  17. Saltysalts says:

    Should I burn a trade to get Bartel? I actually have 9 trades left at the moment but I'm at full premo team, or I would have been if it wasn't for the Sauce.

    My logic here is to trade Sam Rowe for Liam McBean and generate enough cash to trade OUT the sauce, swing Cox into the ruck and trade in Bartel.

    Any other suggestions for forward trade ins? My forward line is Cox, Roughead, Martin, Rockliff, JJK, Nic Nat.

  18. James says:

    Time to bring in Murph.

  19. Dan says:


  20. James says:

    Hi Mick,

    Who is the best VC option this week: S Mitchell, D Swan, G Ablett or S Pendlebury?

    Will use it on Josh P Kennedy if all goes wrong.


    • James says:

      Will use the captaincy on Josh P Kennedy if it all goes wrong.*

      • Joey Jo Jo Junior says:

        JPK in crappy form. Months since a decent score. Go Pendles / Ablett VC / C

  21. Jimbo says:

    Hi Community, first time playing SC, great fun, top marks to the Jockreynolds pod casts, top lads giving advice and having a bubble, anyway, which player do you think will make the most points, only one trade left, had a lot of players go down during the season, should I trade Watson for Bartel, Rockliff, for mid and forward line ups or Selwood, have GA, Swan, Barlow, Dangerfield, Cotchin, JPK, Montagna in midfield,
    thanks community

    • micki S says:

      what are you coming on the ladder Jimbo

      • jimbo says:

        48209 place, will try higher for next season though

        • Joey Jo Jo says:

          With no trades left, you probably need a FWD/MID swing if you don't already have in case of injury. Rockliff in great form and easy run home for Lions. He's the man.

  22. Blair says:

    Hey Jock

    Couple of questions-

    will franklin play ths week?

    what can we expect from him for the rest of the year??

    Only have 3 trades left but really tempted to ditch, feild is all prem besides Nichols

    Thinking buddy for Rockliff or roughie??

    Also who do you think Crowley will pinch this week from tigers?

    • Mungo Man says:

      roughie for sure! crowley will most likely got to delids hes most damaging player in the midfield!

      • Blair says:

        Yer wanted roughie for a month or so but rockliff at a cheap price and easy run home is tempting. With only 3 trades left not sure if I should keep buds at f6 invade of injuries

  23. James says:

    4 trades left, got both jobe and dangerfield. what do i do?

  24. James says:

    goodes, niccols and staker?? what to do?

  25. micki S says:

    i have 1 trade left. should i put him in?

    • micki S says:

      im also coming third so should i take him.These are my trade options.

      Mitchell, S

      12. Wingard, C

      13. Hartlett, H

      14. Ball, L

      Mitchell, T

  26. Chumpy says:

    Here's my dilemna, I have 4 players I want to get rid of, and only three trades. Plenty of $$, 300k in the bank. Out of Sauce Jacobs, Staker, Zorko, and Tom Mitchell, who should be my priority?

    • JJFYZZ says:

      Sauce then Zorko and hopefully you can leave Staker and TMitchell on the bench as good JS and also very good point scoring cover!

      • Chumpy says:

        tiny problem with that, they're all on the field at the moment :/ thinking Jacobs must go, hold on the rest, two trades for finals will have to suffice.

        • Jenny Talia says:

          Hold Staker and Mitchell. Both going great.

          Of Jacobs and Zorko, definetly drop Jacobs. He is way out of sorts and could even face a spell on he sideline if he doesnt pick up in next couple of weeks. Zorko out of form, and very frustrating,, but still has potential to explode with a 130+ game.

  27. Deadly says:

    Doc Larkin reckons Murphy may be out this week with a sore buttock. He must have put his helmet on wrong?

  28. Jason says:

    Looking at getting Walker in to complete my forward line.

    Would I be better off waiting a week to bring in Johnson? Can spare the cash.

    • Johno says:

      HOLD unless you need a win this week to make finals.

      Stevie J is best forward option available if you have the cash. Only forward who has chance of getting in a bulls roar of non-DPP mid.

  29. Alex says:

    I only traded in dangerfield last week using 2 trades to get him. Now they are saying he could be out for up to 4 weeks. I only have 5 trades left, should i trade him or hold and put Tom Mitchell on the field.

    • Chumpy says:

      Mitchell is gun, hold and put him on, should only miss one more week the dangerman

      • Chumpy says:

        Make that 3 weeks…trade him down to Marc Murphy and generate some $$

  30. Pete says:

    Hey Mick,

    I still have Watson and Danger, and thinking to trade out one of them for Murphy to free up cash to upgrade O’Meara to Pendles. What are your thoughts re their respective injuries? Reports are saying that Jobe responding well to collarbone injury and he could be back in time for SC finals, whereas Dangerfield is listed as being 1-3 weeks with shoulder injury which I would imagine would be hard to recover from. Trading out Danger also frees up a bit more cash.

    What do you reckon?

  31. Thommo says:

    112-117? Agree he's a great tight-arse option but he's shown absolutely nothing to suggest he'll be back to his absolute best from now on. 92-97 would be a more realistic prediction for mine. Still good value though.

  32. Liam says:

    Hi community i was wondering who to get trade in for Patty Dangerfiend

    My midfield at the moment is Ablett, Swan, Griffen, Barlow, Deledio, Dangerfield, kennedy and T mitchell

    I can afford any midfielder apart from pendlebury and beams

    Help please ?

    • ikn4l says:

      IMO I would hold for a couple of weeks and use T Mitchell as cover. But if you really want to trade I would go J selwood

    • SCaddict says:

      Reckon either Jack, Selwood or S.Mitchell present the best value for likely elite production to perform as a decent M5/M6 to somewhat replace Danger, and just bank the cash savings for your next trade.

      I see Smurf, although darn cheap, as a better M8/M9 option as injuries have definitely had a deleterious impact on his output this season.

    • liam f says:

      Liam, who is on your bench? Can you sub one off them for danger for a few weeks? If not rockliffa good option for mine

      • Liam says:

        I have hrovat and kommer who i dont think are capable of knocking up the ton

  33. Luke says:

    What to do with Dangerfield? I have 6 trades, and was planning to use 2 to upgrade staker to bartel to complete my forward line and my whole team in fact. What should I do?

    • SCaddict says:

      Yeah Danger really needs to go unless you have excellent midfield bench cover. Plenty of choices for the money as per my post to Liam above.

      • luke says:

        My midfield bench is Mitchell and Hrovat. Pretty 'excellent' in my eyes. I also have Natanui and Franklin to deal with, aswell as my uncompleted forward. Any suggestions?

        • SCaddict says:

          Yes that's good cover so would hold Danger in that case.

          • luke says:

            Ok thanks so much! Should I trade out Natanui? I do have Nicholls to cover for him if he isnt going to be out for long. And I also need to make cash somehow so I can complete my forward line. Not sure who to downgrade and to who?

            • SCaddict says:

              Many are jumping off Nic Nat especially those with Nicholls so that could be a good way to generate cash.

              Just go the cheapest ruck option to genertae maximum cash or McBean if a swingman is beneficial in your set-up.

  34. @Jacko2128 says:

    get OUT – Duffield or terlich?

    get IN – dusty martin or n riewoldt?

  35. Tom says:

    So i already have Hanley & Ibbotson in my backline,
    IS IT INSANE to trade out maric for a random like McBean (for loophole) and make Nicholls R2, then I can upgrade Terlich to Malceski?

    • Zimmer says:

      I was thinking about doing the same thing with my rucks, except trading out Jacobs. Have got Mayes on the fwd bench, and thinking of upgrading him. Haven't decided what I'll do yet.

      Still have Watson too, but Mitchell is there for cover. Can't work it out.

  36. Tom says:

    Is Priddis Supercoach final material? He only averages around 95-100 every week. I feel that i should trade him to Swan before finals start

  37. Jack says:

    B. Murdoch-t. Rockliff
    Leaves with 2 trades and 220k

    • Rocksta says:

      Can't justify Danger to Murphy.
      Danger should only be traded to another super elite mid ( Ablett,Pendles,Swanny,Barlow,Selwood)

  38. Dee says:

    Would you guys consider trading in Watson/Swan/Griffin for Priddis?? I feel like he doesn’t score enough, i been contemplating on this, is this a waste of a a trade?! Thoughts community….

    • Zimmer says:

      Wouldn't trade in Watson. He's out for at least 3-4 weeks.

      If you could get Swan in it would be a plus, but it would depend on the rest of your mids.

  39. luke says:

    Hi Jock and community,

    My team prior to round 17 is:

    Trades Left: 6 || Remaining Salary Cap: $9, 600

    Goddard, Shaw, Gibbs, Hartlett, Hanley, Heppell (Clisby, Frost)

    Ablett, Pendlebury, Dangerfield, Fyfe, Selwood, Priddis, Cotchin, Swan (Mitchell, Hrovat)

    Minson, Natnui (Nicholls, Currie)

    Cox, Franklin, Martin, Rockliff, Kennedy, Staker (Lee, Daniher)

    Really desperate for some advice this week. With Dangerfield, Natnui and Franklin all injured this week, I am not sure what 2 trades to make this week. Was initially planning to complete my forward line my upgrading Staker to Bartel but thinking I might focus on the injuries before I upgrade Staker as he still does have a bit of cash left in him. I have good midfield coverage so Im thinking I might leave Dangerfield on the bench and put Mitchell on the field. Besides that, what should I focus on this round and what trades should I make? In real need this week.

    Thanks in advance.

  40. Liam says:

    Is Nic Naitanui playing guys ?

  41. Jason says:

    It all adds up Jock – what you are ignoring is his time on ground under Mighty Mick. With 8.2% less time on ground when comparing this year to his peak then obviously his stats will reduce. If you factor in this % difference then this year, pre injury, he would be averaging a touch under 110 (not 101).

    Maybe it's not his form, but a symptom of Mick's coaching and/or gibbs's introduction to the mids eating away at his time in the guts.

  42. Jason says:

    What do you guys think of Trading Dangerfield to Murphy , then using the money to upgrade Hawkins or Macaffer to Rockliffe ?

  43. David says:

    Murph is a bench option at best. I already have mitchell and Vlastuin on my midfield bench and I can't find a place on the field for Rockliff, Hibberd, Kruezer or Luenberger. When SJ comes back I'll have to bench Dusty, Kennedy or Cox. There are too many trades in this competition. There should be a maximum of 6 trades p/season PLUS injuries & suspensions of more than 3 weeks can be traded out.

  44. Luke says:

    Thinking of trading out Natanui (as I have Nicholls) to Mcbean to generate cash. Want to either upgrade Staker or Lee to Bartel to complete my forward, but not sure who. If I upgrade Lee, ill have barely any money left, but will good forward coverage with Staker having good job security, whereas if upgrade Staker, ill still have 200k left, but will have a fragile forward bench with Lee's unreliable job security. What should I do?

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