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ROUND 16 DISCUSSION

Published by Jock on

The heavy artillery from Collingwood went BANG Friday night.

Dangerfield looks as if he is in a bit of strife with his shoulder. Played the game out  Friday night and did his coaches proud. I love him. There Ive bloody said it.

Plenty of discussion around loopholes and captains buzzing around, lets get the discussion started… whats on your mind this weekend?

 


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Don't Argue

Hi Jock
Long term reader, first time commenter. Love the work from you and the boys.
How bad is Dangers shoulder? Do you think he will miss games?
Thanks

ShinbonerSpirit

AFL website suggests it looks like a 3 week recovery. Fortunately for him (and us) it was a only a sprain. Sanderson considered subbing him out until the club doctor convinced him it wouldn't aggravate the injury further.

Don't Argue

Thanks Jock
I've got Watson as well, so have some tough decisions to make. Tempted to trade Jobe for Mundy and keep Danger on the bench for a few weeks and hope he comes good for finals.

Pete

Can't believe they left him on the ground, silly player management IMO

Jack

He looked pretty good when he plucked that cracking overhead mark in the last quarter. Adelaide has a 9 day break before it's next game so, pending scans, he could be a chance to play. I'm in the same boat with Watson already in the JR Bungalow awaiting trade week so here's hoping he gets back quickly.

Jamie

I put Dangerfield on bench incase he did what happened last night, now have the choice of leaving Vlastuin on the ground or using the loophole to keep Danger's 70 pts. What would you do guys?

ShinbonerSpirit

Wow! How did you see that coming?? I'd keep the 70. Vlastuin has been downright pathetic recently.

Jamie K

My only 2 non playing bench players both play Sat arvo so didn't have any other options. Had Pendles as VC (my crystal ball has been good to me so far!). Thanks for the opinion!

Jamie

Just putting it out there, Pendlebury is as much of a lock each year as Gablett is.

Jamie K

Much agreed, have had him all year, great for the VC loophole as Collingwood play a lot of the earlier games of each round.

Don't Argue

I agree. Usually try to work the Loophole aground Ablett & Pendles as they have both been awsome this year

BestCoastEagles

Jamie & Jamie K one of the same ?? As Above

Fabian

VC on Swan… opponent has it on Pendles. Argh! Gonna have to stick the C on Gaz and hope he puts out a massive one!.

I think Jobe and Danger's injuries showed us the importance of holding on to trades.

Jamie

Staker is a pretty good bench warmer to have. If he keeps scoring the way he does you would nearly be happy to keep him. I would hold off Franklin, he has been disappointing, and I don't think he will be playing.

Kewgie

Does Ablett play well after a break? Or take Swan's VC score of 126?

@Jakespoonman

Josh Thomas made the sub after being named. Trade to Sam Mitchell.

Danger does his shoulder and limps through the game, while my league opponent has Swan AND Pendles! O'Meara left on my bench.

Likely Buddy won't play. Think this week will be a bad one…

Jake

Hey community! Should i go buddy to stevie j?

Jamie K

I did Jake, although, I had 10 trades left before this round, Hanley in for Watson (Vlastuin into midfield bench), & Franklin out for Stevie J. Hoping he can punch out a 150 odd against the Dees!

Jake

yeah, i'm leaning toward it especially with buddy scoring poorly against some of the teams he will play in sc finals!

Sam

Scored alright with Shaw, Swan, Pendlebury and Dangerfield.

I hope Rowe can get a good score because franklin is out.

Should I keep Jacobs score of 83 or go with Nicholls????

cotchandmurph

Nichols

Benni

Weather in cairns today perfect, don't see the conditions being real slippery. I'd take sauces score.

CashCows

Nicholls playing well

cotchandmurph

i moved the vc off pendels and put it on swan, now i need gazza to score big

glen

ok how does this loophole thing work? got ablett c pendles vc

Bruds

put the captain on a player not playing and have a player that is playing as emergency to get their score and pendles will become captain.

glen

ok think i've got it thanks bruds

Bruds

good stuff glen! an example would be to put C on thurlow in the backline and have a defender like heppell as emergency and then heppell's score will count but not become captain and pendles will give you 306!!

cotchandmurph

ok glen, if you have a non playing player like viney or currie, put them on the field and make them captian, then, say if you use viney, put tom mitchell on the bench as emerg and wait for the magic to happen

glen

put naismith (syd) on gawn (melb) off c is on naismith is that ok?

Bruds

beautiful, have gawn as emergency if you were planning on playing him to get his score and you're set!

glen

thanks for your help…pity i didn't find this page at the start of the season…might be sitting higher than 4th good luck e1 that helped for the rest of the season

Bruds

Hey community! I had shaw as emergency last night and am using his score but am wondering if i should swap goodes for heppell, mckenzie or hartlett, any thoughts?

Bruds

cheers jock!, i have heppell, goddard, shaw, hartlett, mckenzie and gibbs on at the moment, hopefully goodes who is sitting on the pine doesn't pull out another 111 like last week!

glen

ok how does this loophole thing work? got ablett c pendles vc

Jeff

I've got Watson and Dangerfield, haven't made any trades yet this round (5 left). Was thinking of going Watson to Selwood/ Jack this week, but do you think I should hold off trading until next week to assess the situation with Dangerfield?

Bruds

hey jeff, i picked up selwood this week for watson, selwood has scored well against the sides he has in finals and should have a monster game against the demonds! Jack's finals run is probably harder and he hasn't has as bigger scores against some of the teams he plays again as well as being more expensive. But with limited trades you have to assess if you can afford to wait the extra week?

Jeff

Thanks for the advice, think I'll pull the trigger on Selwood. My team is set so these last 5 trades were for injuries, might as well use them if I need to!

Bruds

to ease your conscience even if selwood doesn't go nuts today, he has scored 140, 163, 135 against north, sydney and brisbane who he plays again this year, 2 of which in finals!

LukeKilner

Why are people still asking how the Bloody Loophole works??? What round are we in?? Ridiculous…

BestCoastEagles

Well said Captain, wise words indeed i definitely won't use the loophole while you are our Captain. A Million cheers mate. Hope JR BRUMBY FC done ok this week champ.

Garry

community shall i put the C on ablett, johnson or selwood

ShinbonerSpirit

I'm going with SJ.

Bruds

Gaz would be the safe bet you would think but the geelong boys have a lot of upside, go with your gut!

@HJ_Mitch

The weather radar is showing rain hitting Geelong very soon and probably lasting for a while. Take into account if choosing SJ.

Josh

Hi Community,Who is likely to be out for longer between Dangerfield and Watson, I'm tempted to trade out Dangerfield because of his price and keep Watson on the bench with T.Mitchell to cover up untill he is ready to play.

ShinbonerSpirit

I'd probably say Watson. That was a clean break whereas Dangerfield managed to finish the game.

Super_Freak

I hope Danger recovers, I traded him in this week. I'm confident he will perform when he returns. The guy is a machine, played most of the game with one arm and still got 70sc point

CloneMan

Should I take Witts score of 83 or go with Nicholls?

Bruds

nicholls has only dropped below 83 once out of his 5 matches but maric in will just bully him, unless you think your going to loose by 10-20 points i'd take the 83

CloneMan

No!!!! Nicholls 98 at 3Q time!!!!

Luke

Jock / community shall i bring in stevie j or mitchell from hawks matey

ShinbonerSpirit

Stevie J will monster Melbourne!

Adam

Should i sub off o’meara for crouch who scored 93? I have a feeling o’meara will do well against the tigers but not sure!

Bruds

that has got to be the tightest call i have ever seen! even if you get it wrong, the difference will only be a matter of a few points 🙂 o'meara has beaten 93 6/14 games this year so maybe just go with the 93

Sam

Take the 93

Sam

Take Swans 126 or continue with either Stevie J or Ablett?

@HJ_Mitch

I'm in the same boat. I reckon a bird in the hand is better than two in the bush. I'm going to stick with Swan's score, especially when it looks like it going to be wet for most of the afternoon in Geelong.

alec

ablett i would have to say!

jake

take pendleburys 153 or give the C to StevieJ/Ablett? pls help

Sam

100% take pendleburys 153!

alec

take pendles 153 as captain!!!

Joe

community shall i go stevie j geelong or barlow from freo im doing my head in lol

Jono

Ive been lucky this year with not picking both Watson and Danger so i have no worries about injuries with that!!
Im tossing up between puting the captain on Gablett and thinking he's gonna pull a massive score out or keep pendles score with the loophole!! any thoughts?
ALSO WHEN IS JOE DANIHER AND CURRIE GONNA GET THERE CHANCE???

ShinbonerSpirit

Keep Pendles' score. Daniher should be in and out of the lineup across the remainder of the season. Currie doesn't look like displacing Goldstein/Daw any time soon.

Super_Freak

Bit late for reply so this is for future reference, but I would never pass on a 150+ score.

ShinbonerSpirit

SJ's disposal efficiency not looking good at all…

ACDC

I wonder what the ratio is of players playing in long sleeve shirts, to how badly they score that game. (Hartlett I'm looking at you)

Super_Freak

I dont think it matters what guernsey hartlett wears, he just continues to disappoint

David

Gaz vs Richmond or Kennedy vs GWS?

ShinbonerSpirit

Gazza all the way.

Craig

Guys, what's the score I should settle for with Stevie. J and not change to Ablett?

ShinbonerSpirit

His SC score might not look too good with his disposal efficiency, but I'd bank a 130.

Cujo

Sounds like I should lock in Gazza and keep Stevie in the VC jumper.
Thoughts?

ShinbonerSpirit

Who will score fewer points: Nic Nat or Cox?

Sully321

Nic Nat

Super_Freak

Nic Nat has been a bit off recently, but that could change. Toss a coin!

Jose'

Quick question guys
Nicholls just got a 112 . Do i take his score over Minson or Cox??

cotchandmurph

take nicholls score, i missed out but if you have a chance do it

dan

take the 112

Super_Freak

I would definately take his 121. Toss up who to replace though.

ShinbonerSpirit

Minson plays an Essendon side lacking in a top class bona fide in-form Ruckman (I don't think Bellchambers up forward counts). Cox is playing Sandilands. I'd probably go with Minson on the field, but it's hard to split the two. And I can't help but feel that Cox will go bang in the derby.

JB

Why do some teams have 2 Emergency for the same position? Which score counts?

yelad

lowest score

Guest

Who will score more points: Minson or Cox? Used emergency loophole on nicholls

Guest

Do we know what' the diagnosis is for swallow? Hand injury? Will he miss weeks?

Dan

Lads what do you think of the punt of Tom Mitchell on field as opposed to Matt Priddis?
Tom Mitchell playing the giants should kick a bag where as Matt Priddis may get crowley'd without the likes of Shuey or Kerr to cop the tag.

Super_Freak

You could be on to something there. Most of Priddis' scores are consistently 95-110, and with a tag that could drop sigificantly. Mitchell is almost a certainty to crack 100 against the giants.

Michael

Great observation Dan, have just locked that in!

Michael

Had SJ as VC but missed my chance to get the C off GAJ – end result 46 points down the drain!

Super_Freak

I'm devastated community. Finally brought in Danger this week and he gets injured. Crouch will be emergency so not a total catastrophe, as he is cranking out reasonable scores atm.

Anyone else feeling my pain?

ShinbonerSpirit

Happened to me with Birchall (40 points plus injury) and Watson (24 points plus injury) in the last three weeks.

ShinbonerSpirit

Finally, a decision of mine that did not go catastrophically wrong. Picking Jelwood over Mitchell and Montagna looks the goods so far. Sitting on 1778 from 15 with Captain SJ.

Super_Freak

Looks like you needed a bit of luck after Birchall & Watson. I'm 1421 from 13, captain on Griffen. Projected around 2500. Should definately be my best round. Good to finally see most of our premiums performing.

BestCoastEagles

Had the same problem with Watson, got J. Selwood in as well worked out nice. Got Dangerman dramas now but will hold that little gem. Managed 2448 with my Wet Toast Contingent letting me down BIG TIME. Will take that everyday of the week.

duck18

I 'm a North supporter and they absolutely do my head in

ShinbonerSpirit

Hear, hear! You'd think after Richmond last week…

duck18

how can you smash Richmond last week,be up by 32 points this week and lose? It's happened 5 or 6 times this year we get 30 or 40 pts in front then BANG! we blow up………bloody chokers mate I'm over it

ShinbonerSpirit

Times like these, I'd rather be a Melbourne supporter!

Sam

1960/16 looking to have a monstrous week! Chose Nichols over Jacobs 🙂 tom lee gave me good bench cover for buddy, clisby did the job for duffield..

Should I go Mitchell or pridis though, pridis may get crowleyd

Sam

Also, can I trade Jacobs to a rookie ruckman, running with cox and Nichols for the rest of the year? Ten upgrading else where.. Jacobs has scored lower then nicols nearly every week

duck18

wow with a score like that you may take out the Nissan prize. I would go Mitchell theres a chance Priddis will get Crowley and as you know he is the tagger from hell

Michael

What's par score for this week folks?
Currently 1552/13, GAJ as capt (stuffed up – had SJ as VC but didn't get C off GAJ in time), proj score 2446, T Mitchell, JPK, Heppell, Ibbotson, NicNat, Cox, JJK, Goddard, B Goodes to come. 100 average from now will get me to 2452. Crucial game is the derby – could either be massive or disastrous I reckon!

JD_Cereal

Myself and my opponent both have Gaz as captain, although I'm using the loophople and he isn't. I'm only forecast to win by 20 points, should I leave the VC on him or take a punt on Griffen?

gish

Was planning on trading Watson for Jack today but now thinking I should have gone with Selwood. Should I still make the trade or hold out until next week and grab Joel? Can cover Watson with Mitchell today.

@Jacko2128

will tom mitchel get more than 93? tossing up between playin him or taking crouch's score??

Michael

hope you've gone Crouch, Mitchell on 30, 3:34 gone 3rd quarter.

BestCoastEagles

Big last quarter From Titch 105.

@Jacko2128

cheering that i went mitchell!!

Michael

I take back my earlier comment, what a finish from Titch!

Darby's Dashers

Used the Ruck loophole with Nichols and VCR with pendles. Goldstein had a stinker

Osh

Worst thing I did this week was forgetting to put Tom. Mitchell on for Jaeger.

Michael

Tommy Mitchell you little ripper! Put him on instead of Priddis thanks to a fellow community member's advice – can't see Priddis getting 113+ against Crowley today! Projected score now 2461, currently 1772/15.

Michael

Finished on 2413 – highest SC score ever!
Projected score was 2384 – so first time in ages I'm in front!
Winners (scored more than projected): Rocky (BOG: +67), Staker (+33), Hanley (+28), Pendles (+24), Roughead (+22), Goodes (+21), Heppell (+13),Titch (+13), Ibbotson (+12), SJ (+10), JPK (+2).
Losers: Gibbs (WOG: -35 on projected), Cox (-31), JJK (-28), Jimmy B (-26), NicNat (-24), GAJ (-18), Walker (-18), BJ (-11), Cloke (-11), Ellis (-10), Swan (-4).

cotchandmurph

well done mate. great to see. You wont belive me but i scored 2414

Michael

nice work mate, shoulda coulda woulda I know, but forgot to take C off GAJ with VC on SJ – so lost 46 points there! Also had Nicholls' 121 on the pine – swap that with Cox and there's another 51 points – so all going spectacularly well could've got 2510!

cotchandmurph

This was the first week i think where i had a player in every game

Matteo

2407 jock.

Disappointments (85-)
S Mitchell 51
Bartel 80
Gibbs 69
Tippett 83 (although not complaining too much at F7)
Griffen 76
Natanui 69
Ablett as captain and not Pendles!

Highlights
Pendles! 153
Selwood 130
Martin 120
Rockliff 147
Staker! 111
Minson 118
Roughead 130

SCaddict

Had an excellent round in both codes with 2544 in SC and 2323 in DT to win all 6 league matches.

Will have my fingers crossed that Stevie J escapes MRP attention on Monday but otherwise managed to escape the carnage this weekend!

ShinbonerSpirit

Nice score! No Dangerfield?

SCaddict

Yes SS managed to dodge that one thankfully. Had Watson last weekend though so feel sorry for those who have both.

BestCoastEagles

Have Dangerman & Stevie J, i will light a candle for Stevie and pray to the Footy God's and hope he does the Harry Houdini

ShinbonerSpirit

Limped to a 2479, with the pathetic performance of Cox.

BestCoastEagles

I am a West Coast supporter so i got double whacked with JJK, Cox, Nic Nat and Priddis a well as losing to Freo .

ShinbonerSpirit

Tough luck mate. I had Priddis too, but subbed Nic Nat out for Nicholls.

BestCoastEagles

Cheers Shinboner, i suppose you wouldn't be feeling the best either after the Kangas last quarter. Oh well i will have a nice ale to sooth my emotions

cotchandmurph

yes, it was disapointing

BestCoastEagles

Well done to the Community that cranked out the big scores this week 2400+. To the rest there is always next week. Exiting times leading to the Finals. Just need to control my Trade Finger for a week or two and she will be apples

Dimmawit

2467 for me. Carrying Terlich. Sitting 3rd overall. Hopefully hold top 5.

BestCoastEagles

You could jump into poll position with a little luck. Then you will be the hunted. All the best.

cotchandmurph

great team i just looked at it, lucky for malceski, you should hold top 5

Michael

up to 2nd mate, awesome effort, keep it going!

Champ

2546.. Benched Cox & Priddis(156) & Played Mitchell & Nicholls(234) = 78 pts.. Woohoo… Dropped to 303 after 2 ordinary weeks, could go back up a little now??

Michael

up to 159th Nifty, nice job!

Champ

Cheers Mick…

Kewgie

Won in my main league by 3 points!

Marc Murphy has crushed me, down almost 50k this week. Had since the start and seems like I will have to deal with him till the end.

Turner

Ok get rid of terlich or no?
It’ was already driving me mad, wanted to swap to Hanley preRD16
Now looking for immediate bang into action for r17,
Can I trust terlich for a bit more yet…

I have shaw,Goddard,Gibbs,hartlet,goodes terlich
and clisby/oxley(staker fwdbench to cover buddy)
– Hanley is cheapest for value but thinking hibbard now 444k or eski with massive roof and good for 90
– Thompson is big p0d in league

Any help appreciated cheers SCT community
Need a big 3 week push for the 8!!

Ozzie

in some serious trouble in the backline!

sitting birchall on the bench still have vlaustin and terlich on field, team complete everywhere else with 4 trades left!
do i..
trade out terlich high b/e this week and gonna leak some cash?
trade out birchall for premo and put vlaustin on bench? keep in mind the 4 trades left.
out of contention for overall prize but first in semi serious league and 4th in serious league, thinking of holding on to the trades for finals? what you think!?!

Skintip

Vlastuin is done for the season I reckon and terlich is slowing but they are both parts of their teams and will still play. Birchall is a waste and perfect to upgrade to finish your defense, and it will leave solid bench cover also.

Ive got three trades left which are for sideway injury trades over the next 7 weeks.