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supercoach flesh for fantasyWelcome community to another edition of Flesh for Fantasy.

Round 5 saw many sides make their move and step out of the trenches, with the highest ranked player in the top 20 scores for the round sitting at 25,882 (Victorious Secret). The return to form of Dayne Zorko, Steve Johnson and David Zaharakis has created some food for thought in way of premium upgrades.

However, it was the rookies, knees and suspensions that dominated the round. Poor Tex Walker will sit the next 12 months on the sidelines. Nathan Fyfe will sit the next 2 weeks out, along with Brett Goodes. Bryce Gibbs looks to have done a hammy, while key backline downgrade Sam Docherty was given the green vest v Melbourne.

There’s so much to go through in this special edition of “Flesh for Fantasy”, and will be doing things a little different. There will be no “Get Him In/Get Him Out”. Instead, focus will be on the IRS (injuries, rookies, suspensions). There’s been carnage in majority of SuperCoach sides, and we must tackle the issues head on as a community, together.


The AFL is currently in the midst of an ACL epidemic. We’ve had 14 in 5 rounds, in a league where the season average was 13. On the weekend we saw 3 more added to the dreaded list – Alan Toovey, Kepler Bradley and Tex Walker, who’s the one we’re more concerned about from a fantasy point of view.

Taylor Walker (FWD – $436,100) will spend the next 12 months on the sidelines as he recovers from a debilitating ACL injury. The question to ask yourself now is not so much what to do with him, but who to deal him to. With a few players on the bubble this week, you could do a downgrade/upgrade trade this week and turn Tex into the following players.

– Next 5 Games: SYD (A), WCE (H), ESS (A), CARL (H), COLL (H)
– Recent Scores: 64, 79, 67, 105, 151

With a last 3 round average of 107.7 and a BE of approximately 36, Zorko the Magnificent is back! He’s found his groove, and rewarding those who stuck fat with the premium. He’s back up to 20+ disposals a game; tackling has increased and is now consistently pumping the ball I50. His price has dropped $45,000 since the start of the year, but should break $500,000 in the coming weeks. Consistency is everything in SuperCoach, and with a tough stretch of games coming up; it’s tough to say whether he is completely back to the 2012 Zorko. However, given his current discounted price, he is someone seriously worth considering to replace Tex.

– Next 5 Games: RICH (A), ESS (H), COLL (A), PORT (A), GCS (H)
– Recent Scores: 75, 97, 160

Another man who, after a slow start to the season, is finally up and firing. It’s been building for some time now, and in the game v Dogs he had 30 touches, 10 tackles and 6 I50s for that whopping 160 SC. Even in games v Swans and Blues his possession tally was high, so he was getting plenty of it – but now he’s tackling a lot more too, which increased from 1, to 6, to 10 respectively. Johnson is a bit more on the expensive side, but if you’ve got the cash available, Stevie J is playing into form and could be the perfect replacement for Tex.

– Next 5 Games: MELB (H), STK (A), PORT (H), BRIS (A), GWS (H)
– Recent Scores: 137, 70, 137, 109, 124

One of the surprise packets of the season has to be Tex’s long lost brother Andrew. Under new coach and old friend Michael Malthouse, Andrew’s role has shifted to half back, playing as a loose man who collecting the pill in space and running all over the place with it. This has seen a rise in his numbers, averaging 24 touches and 115.4 SC points. Carlton has a good run coming up, with their next 5 against sides who missed the 8 last season and only 1 in the 8 this year (Port Adelaide). Given Andrew’s current form and teams coming up, there’s no reason to suggest Walker’s scores will slow down. If you’ve got the money, get him in.

The other major injury to come from the weekend, and one of more significance to SuperCoach, was that of Bryce Gibbs (MID – $486,700). Gibbs was subbed at HT against the Crows (much to the disgust of the community). Once news broke through that he’s done a hamstring, it raised concern and panic about the level of “carnage” our backlines are facing this week. My advice on Bryce Gibbs is simple and obvious but:


Keep Bryce. It would be the biggest waste of a trade to get rid of a player like him. Carlton have come out and said it was a “low-grade hamstring tear” and while he’ll miss this week, will be assessed next. The seriousness of the injury is low. Hold onto him and see how he things play out next week. That trade used to sideways trade Gibbs could be used for cash generation. Think long term over short.


The 2nd big issue to come from the weekend was the rookies. There are a number of players hitting the bubble this week and ready to start generating some cash. We also have to start making the call on a number of our rookies, who have done wonderful jobs in making our SuperCoach sides some hard earned cash. Old man Crimmins here is licking his lips at idea of making some money and being the old tightarse this community makes me out to be.

Here is a list of those on the bubble, ready for price rise after this week:

  • Rory Laird (ADEL) DEF, $115,900
  • Sam Docherty (BRIS) DEF, $115,900
  • Marco Paparone (BRIS) MID/FWD, $114,500
  • Sam Kerridge (ADEL) MID/FWD, $115,900
  • Jackson Macrae (WBD) MID, $174,500
  • Max Gawn (MELB) RUCK, $115,900
  • Majak Daw (NM) RUCK, $115,900
  • Tom Lee (STK) FWD, $115,900
  • Jake Stringer (WBD) FWD, $179,500

All these players (except Stringer and Macrae due to their price) currently have an approximate Break Even in the negatives. But the question now you must ask yourself community: just who of these players to trade in, and who for. A few of them are obvious ones, but others aren’t so simple. Here are a few trades I’ve considered this week in way of cash generation.

– Price of Blicavs: $196, 900 – Price of Gawn: $115,900
– Cash generated: $81,000

Giving the current pool of rookie rucks going around right now, this could be one of the only chances you get to downgrade Blicavs. Daniel Currie is one you could wait for, but Daw is jump ahead of him in the pecking order, and North won’t flirt with Goldstein’s form by bringing in that 2nd ruck. The fact Ben Hudson played when Jolly was ruled out instead of Witts and Grundy shows Bucks isn’t ready to throw them into deep end just yet. Jack Hannath from Fremantle is one to keep an eye on now that Kepler Bradley is out with an ACL. Max, on the other hand, has been playing as a forward and with Clark ruled out for 8 weeks, he should hold his spot in side as that 2nd key forward the Dees wanted when they chased after Dawes. Blicavs has an approximate BE of 44, and given his scoring pattern and Vardy’s pending return, I’d dump now while you have chance to get Gawn in.

– Price of Heath: $235,700 – Price of Docherty: $115,900
– Cash generated: $119,800

With Hinkley confirming Wednesday he’ll spend another week on the sidelines, this could be a good chance to cash him in. He currently has a BE approximately of approximately 21, and after a great start to the year, his scores are dropping too. Most sides would have loaded up with Port rookies in defence ie Stevenson, Heath…and realistically you can’t go into the bye rounds with all of them. If you add Hartlett to the mix, that’s almost too many Port players. So given all this, it could be a good opportunity to start the culling with Pittard and let Stevenson/Heath grow a little more, seeing as both still have BEs in the negatives.

Docherty, on the otherhand, provides an interesting situation. After a very solid debut v North Melbourne, he was given the green vest in the last game we get to see before the price rise next week. This does worry me a little bit, and with Hanley due to return this week, I wouldn’t be surprised is Docherty is the one out. Wait ‘til team selections before you execute this one, but Docherty has shown us glimpses, back him in if he is selected.
Rory Laid (ADEL), $115,900 is another player worth considering trading Pittard down too.

– Price of Dwyer: $247,200 – Price of Paparone: $114,500
– Cash generation: $132,700

The buzz rookie this year, Sam Dwyer is also one that has fallen dramatically since that game v Blues where he tore it to shreds. Since then he has managed 68, 65 and 38. His BE sits at approximately 45, and given his current run of form, there are question marks as to whether he’ll reach this score.
Paparone’s job security worries me, but his performances don’t. If you break it all down, he’s not playing 4 quarters, but when he does, he has ability to score quite well. Against NM his quarter breakdown was 0/21/15/28 and against Melbourne it was 0/24/2/10. He’s got a good knack for the goals, but is a prime target for the green vest. If you’re going to trade him in, make sure you got someone else to cover Dwyer on the field – Paparone is more suited to sitting on your bench and generating cash.
If you’re worried about job security of Paparone, Jake Stringer (WBD), $179,500 is someone you could consider for Dwyer. Won’t generate as much cash initially from trade, but will play every week and in the long run should go up in value.


Finally, this weekend saw the suspension of 2 influential fantasy players in Brett Goodes and Nat Fyfe. Both received 2 weeks and no doubt it must be tempting for trade them out, especially those in the top 1000 cashing the prize. Both provide unique situations in their own right, so let’s break it down.

Nathan Fyfe (FRE) MID, $544,900 got 2 weeks his deliberate kick after his appeal failed. A popular pick in the pre-season, he must remain in your side for the 2 weeks, it’s that simple. You should have cover on the bench to take Fyfe’s spot while sits in the stands, and you won’t regret trading him out when he comes back and resumes his 100+ scores.


Brett Goodes (WBD) DEF, $331,300 also got 2 weeks for a raised elbow on Cat Josh Caddy. Unlike Teen Wolf, he wasn’t foolish enough to appeal and accepted with the early guilt plea. Don’t let this scare you off him though. Bench him, and then put him back on field when he returns. His BE is still in the negatives and scoring well himself too. His ceiling will peak at about $350,000+ as estimation and you really want to get every dollar you can. Also, guys like Pittard, Stevenson and Heath are getting very close to their ceilings, so the trades are better spent in the next couple of weeks downgrading them. HOLD.


@23moosey23: I traded in both kerridge and Docherty last week. Too early? Or given options dwindling and extra trades ok?

ANSWER: If it’s going to generate cash for upgrades, it’s never too early. Of course, the players you’re trading out may still have room to grow and value. So in that aspect, you may gave gone early, but also getting another week to look at these rookies also helps. But don’t beat yourself up because cash generation is everything and you would have done so by downgrading to a Kerridge and Docherty.

@JD_Dennis_: Worth getting Goodes out now, maybe even Wines?

ANSWER: As mentioned above, I’d suggest you hold onto Goodes and use the trades to clear out rookies closer to the ceiling than him. Wines, however, is an interesting situation. He has a BE of approximately 38, and has risen t0 $354,000. With all that, I would still hold onto him. He’s scoring well enough to cover that BE and could still go up towards the $400,000. Start treating him week by week though because in a few weeks time, he will be cherry ripe to trade out.

@LavanJRuban: Between Campbell Heath and Cameron O’Shea, which is the best downgrade option now?

ANSWER: I believe Heath is to be honest. Looked sore and struggled to play 4 quarters the other night, whereas O’Shea killed it. That said, both still have achievable BEs and will go up in value. Pittard won’t return this week so both should play, but for me, I’d go Heath – more upside and value potential in O’Shea.

@Linca_HotTiges: Is Winderlich worth getting in for Dwyer?

ANSWER: To be honest, no I don’t because of Winderlich’s price. At $246,100, you’d be making just $1,100 from the trade and for me; I believe there are options you can trade Dwyer down too that will generate $100,000+. On top of that, he’s also a prime candidate for the vest from time to time as well. Not worth risk, consider other options with Winderlich.

@WayneEllery: who’s the next best forward rookie for cash generation? Kerridge or spend extra for o’hAilpin?

ANSWER: Good question, there are a number out there worth considering. Wouldn’t spend extra for o’hAilpin, given GWS won’t get the spread of scores like other sides will. Kerridge’s JS (job security) worries me, seems to be playing as a tagger so his scores will also be affected. But, like most rookies, as long as he plays, his value will go up. Jake Stringer is another one too I would consider. Bit more on the expensive side, but is a beast of a man and the Dogs will keep pumping games into him as McCartney continues to rebuild that list. There’s also Marco Paparone, who was discussed above as an option. If he plays, he should score passable scores and generate some value. I worry about the vest and JS with him, so play that one by ear. Finally, there’s Tom Lee from St Kilda who I’m not sold on all that much. He’ll be in and out of the side and even Scott Watters believes he’s not all that ready for AFL just yet (which is silly for a mature-age rookie).

Well, that’s it for this week’s edition of Flesh for Fantasy. All the best for the upcoming round, we’re all in this together. Remember to hit me with any fantasy related questions at @Mr_Crimmins.

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  1. blake says:

    I have pittard on the field and have 369,000 in the bank. Should I upgrade to a premium or downgrade to Laird or Docherty?

  2. Gillie4 says:

    Great article again!

  3. Jeremy says:

    Shaw, Birchall or Hartlett… Help!

    Shaw is best value… WIll the extra spend be worth it with the other two?

  4. Shaneoo88 says:

    Is it better to target Shaw now and then Birchill next week? I feel Shaw has a higher chance to improving his value. I went Blicavs to Gawn and Pittard to Shaw…around $500k in the bank still

  5. Jayden says:

    Hey I wanna get rid of Gibbs is it worth trading him out and bringing o’shea ?

    • John says:

      Absolutely Not, never, get rid of that thought totally!

      • Morse says:

        Totally agree, you need to think long term and getting rids of gibbs is simply wasted trading. He is a premium and keep. The only reason you would if he was out for 4 weeks +, considering they have said 2 then KEEP KEEP KEEP

    • @Mr_Crimmins says:

      HOLD. Simple as that.

  6. Joshau says:

    I disagree with not utilising the Dwyer>Winderlich trade. Winderlich is looking good back from injury, and while the vest target is a valid concern (and also the fact that he looked great in his 100th just before he screwed up his knee again), he is very capable of big scores, and could quickly rise 150-200k if he stays on the park. It's a risk, but I'm getting involved!

    • Joshau says:

      Okay, i take it back now that he's been dropped for the GWS game!

      • THESALTSHAKERS says:

        Rested, but booted 8 in the VFL a few weeks back, looked great against the Pies, and has season avg's in the 90-95's – I reckon thats a deal….

  7. Michael says:

    Do I trade out Dwyer or Hutchins for a prem or both for upcoming rookies bank a couple 100 thousand for next week??

  8. Maxy says:

    Thoughts on Winderlich as a bargain FWD? Injury prone but can rack them up and appears to be fit. Anyone got any insides on him?

  9. Kosta says:

    Thinking of going pittard to docherty and Dwyer to s.johnson.. Leaving 541k in the bank.. Should I turn pittard into a premium instead?

    • @Mr_Crimmins says:

      Nah that's a solid trade. I reckon get Dwyer to Johnson only because I worry more about the rookies in forward line compared to backline.

  10. Marc says:

    Top notch stuff Mr Crimmins! Perfect article to read coming up to team selections this afternoon.

    Still flip-flopping on Walker or Stevie J. I’m hesitant to pick a guy who gets big numbers just floating around half back as they seem to start off strong, but eventually teams starts making sure that doesn’t happen (See Brent Reilly last year, who scored 6 tons in his first 9 games, then when teams made sure he couldn’t play loose in defense he had 4 tons for the rest of the year). I would rate Walker as slightly better than Reilly (who is prone to brainfarts), but I think Stevie J will be the better option long term. Anyone else got an opinion between the two?

  11. Scott says:

    Burgoyne or Hartlett? The hawks seem to have an easier run then port so unsure..

    I also have 3 of my defenders out so i have decided to trade Gibbs out this week but i will get him back in a couple weeks ( im DT so i have 2 trades per week). His low score last week would mean his price may drop even further so could potentially pick him back up for even cheaper

    • Sunka says:

      Burgoyne! Finally gets a mention…. I thought I was the only one considering him for a while. I took Dixon over him and Shaw but all 3 were tempting. Don't think I'll be getting him anytime soon with Goddard, Hanley, Hartlett, Dixon and Gibbs as my backs, but if it suits your team I reckon go for it! Nice POD aswell

  12. Too Hottie says:

    Will it be a mistake to trade in Jobe Watson or any bomber player with all this peptide hysteria going on?

    • @Mr_Crimmins says:

      No at all – the Bombers are flying, their draw still to open up. Get on. If any of this saga was to effect their performance, it already would of. Get on Watson with confidence

    • geoffmack says:

      Whispers Jobe to be rested…

    • Shaneoo88 says:

      Don't let the media get to you. This is a complex issue and the media is getting their leaks from Stephan Dank and are trying to get you to buy their newspaper. Always question the media and always let due process take its course. The investigation etc will not be over until after the regular season.

  13. Gillie4 says:

    No they're in great form! Especially Jobe! It's not effecting them at all!

  14. Jottie says:

    Any thoughts about atley and garlett? worth changing/downgrading or hold on to them?

  15. Matt says:

    Im currently looking at going Blicavs to Gawn and Duffield to Hartlett, but this leaves me with Luke Brown and Pittard on the field, who may not play this week. Thoughts?

    • @Mr_Crimmins says:

      Both Brown and Pittard look as if they won't play. Still reckon you execute the Gawn trade, but also make sure you have efficient scorers on the field.

  16. aaa says:

    Shaw or Hartlett?

  17. @chillburn says:

    marco is a brisbane player.

  18. if i dont trade out goodes my backline will look very very depleted for two weeks. with the only premiums being heppell and goddard. it has to happen im afraid 🙁

    he has served me well 🙂

  19. James says:

    Hey Mr Crimmins,

    I have Fyfe, Goodes and Gibbs all out this week. I have decided to trade out Pittard to Docherty and upgrade Viney to Dangerfield. This means that I will be running a backline this week of HeppelI, Goddard, Heath, Stevenson, Terlich and Docherty. I am currently ranked 583.

    Do you agree with my trades given the situation?


    • John says:

      Hey mate. I am in exactly the same boat as you barring rank wise.
      Keep Fyfe, Gibbs, Goodes, Pittard OUT seems great. Docherty looking the goods, don't think he will get the vest, yes I agree on those trades.

    • i was only gonna have two non rookies in my def this week as well but i thought better of it.

    • @Mr_Crimmins says:

      Wait till teams are released because I'm hearing some carnage in way of rookies. I really like this trade, but yeah, the teams could hurt you.

  20. Birch's Buddy says:

    Shaw or Hartlett?

  21. Scott says:

    Any thoughts on Harry Taylor for the cats? he seems to get forward quite a bit

    • Scott says:

      Or should i bring in some1 like burgoyne/hartlett/shaw….?

      Or a rookie such as Laird…

    • @Mr_Crimmins says:

      Now Rivers is out, Harry Taylor will be forced back. I would give him a miss – a Shaw/Hartlett a much better option for mine.

  22. Michael says:

    Worth considering Jack Frost (pending release of teams) with Toovey and Maxwell out?

  23. Person says:

    Who cut from my team: Neade or Dwyer?

  24. Jett says:


    What should we be doing about the defence? I was planning on bringing in One of the defender rookies on the bubble but they have been dropped.

    Also is Pittard to Heath Shaw a good move?

    Thanks,Great article

  25. Sam says:

    Who should I get for Dwyer, Paparone or Kerridge?
    Leaning towards Kerridge only because I already have Rockliff and Mayes in the fwd line. And his job security looks safe with Walker out.

  26. Vasco says:

    Defenders: H.Hartlett, B.Goddard, D.Heppell, C.Heath, L.Stevenson, D.Terlich, (B.Gibbs, J.Pittard)
    Midfielders: G.Ablett, S.Pendlebury, D.Mundy, O.Wines, L.Shuey, J.O'Meara, M.Evans, B.Crouch, (N.Fyfe, B.Goodes)
    Rucks: S.Jacobs, M.Leuenberger (M.Blicavs, D.Currie)
    Forwards: J.Kennedy, T.Rockliff, D.Zorko, M.LeCras, J. Neade, S.Dwyer, (S.Rowe, B.Macaffer)

    Need help on who to trade and for who for!

  27. Dan says:

    Heppell has just been rested!

  28. aaa says:

    Two donuts this week. Devastating.

  29. Heytman says:

    Okay so Heppell, Gibbs, Goodes and Pittard are all in my backline – limited downgrade options…
    So, either I can make:
    option 1 – Gibbs/Heppell sideways trade and Pittard out
    option 2 – Pittard out and Dwyer out BUT cop a doughnut

    Thoughts? I was keen on Dwyer > Mayes as Mayes has been killing it

    • vinny mac says:

      I'm in a similar situation, downgrading seems impossible. At the moment I'm thinking of a sideways trading Pittard to Heath or Stevenson (I foolishly traded out Stevenson two weeks back!) Nick Suban at $269,000 also seems decent – playing in the centre against GC.

  30. supercoachguy says:

    Marco Paparone is from brisbane not adelaide

  31. Callum says:

    Unavoidable donut this week unless i trade out gibbs, heppel or goodes.
    Do these trades sound good?
    In: Hartlett, Gawn
    Any thoughts much appreciated

  32. Richoman_12 says:

    Traded out pittard last week for docherty so i'm leaving my backline alone this week. Dwyer to paparone, and neade to watson. Or should i leave neade alone forone more week?

  33. ??? says:

    Thoughts on C.Dixon?

  34. Scott says:

    Omg Heppell is out this week ALSO!

    I've done:

    OUT: Gibbs IN: Hartlett
    OUT: Pittard IN: Hibberd

    Thoughts? Is Hibberd decent? His BE is 43 and playing GWS this weekend so should do alright.

    • Scott says:

      p.s. i will pick Gibbs back up in a couple of weeks (playing DT so get 2 traders per week)

    • Sunka says:

      Hibberd will be consistent and do what he's done so far. Future gun at the mighty bombers!

  35. James says:

    What do I do with my backline now Mr Crimmns?

    Have Heppell, Goodes, Gibbs all out this week. Do I reverse the trade of Viney to Dangerfield and Pittard to Docherty seeing as though there are no rookie defenders?

    Or do I sacrifice this round and go Dangerfield as this week is probably going to be the lowest he'll be.

    Need help

    • James says:

      I'v ended up going with a Dwyer to Stringer and Pittard to Hartlett trade. I'll go with Dangerfield the next week. My defense was to banged up to do it this week.

      What do you think?

      • @Mr_Crimmins says:

        I like it. Get that backline sorted first, then worry about upgrading rookies…especially seeing that Viney is back this week.

  36. Jottie says:

    Heppels out too 🙁

  37. Sully says:

    got 4 defenders out with gibbs, pittard, goodes, and heppell going to trade 2 of them $127.000 in the bank

    please help???

  38. CerealJD says:

    Needed to get Blicavs-> Gawn before that ship sails, which leads me with 1 trade to sort out my backline. Full Team is now
    Goddard, Heppell, Stevenson, Pittard, Vlastuin, Terlich, (Goodes, Gibbs)
    Ablett, Pendlebury, JPK, Moloney, Wines, O'Meara, Steven, Evans (Crouch, Dwyer)
    Jacobs, Leuenberger (Gawn, Rowe)
    Cox, Bartel, Rockliff, Zorko, Kennedy, Mayes (Macaffer, Kerridge)
    $527 left, what the hell do I do?

    • CerealJD says:

      $527, 600 my bad

      • Sully says:

        pittard- hartlett, birchall or shaw any of those three would be good

        • CerealJD says:

          Still leaves me with a donut. I'll take it if I have to, but its a big game for me this round so I'll hope to avoid it

          • EPR says:

            You have four non playing defenders and you're hell bent on using one trade to get a player who's going to sit on your bench… You're gonna have to cop a donut mate…

  39. matt says:

    Hi all what do you think of Winderlich do you really think he is always going to be in Essenden's best 22. Also what sort of risk is he to get injuried again. and do think he could be a vest possability some weeks. any thought would be appreciated.

  40. Sully says:

    Sinclair for gawn gives $224,800 left in the bank.
    then pittard to who $460,000 to spend

    please help

  41. Michael says:

    wow ugly week for defenders this one. Wish I had swing men in MID instead of them all being in DEF (doh!). Have Heppell, Pittard, Goodes, Gibbs all out + Hutchins on extended bench! Thank god Hanley's back at least!
    Here's my initial thoughts, looks like a definite donut though:
    1. trade out Hutchins, trade in O'Shea (BE -30, upgrade in 2-3wks to premium)
    2. trade out Pittard, trade in Wright (BE 13, keep on bench short term after this week)

    Leaves me with $189K in the kitty.
    What do you guys think – any other suggestions?

  42. Michael says:

    Brandon Ellis worth a punt? $237800, last score 134, BE -32

  43. Fabian says:

    Going blitz to Gawn and hutchins to a premium DEF. Unsure who to go to, Taylor, Dixon, or Shaw. I'm worried about how injuries to cats and pies will impact shaw and taylor's scores… but is Dixon someone who will continue to score so highly?


    Side note: Going to be a tough week, I'm sure a team out there has 5 or more of Gibbs, Heppell, Goodes, Pittard, Hutchins, Laird, Docherty all in the Defence

  44. James says:

    Who is the best forward rookie on the bubble Mr Crimmins?

  45. Smithy23 says:

    Guys serious help!!! Gibbs Docherty and goodes all out!!! What do I do?? who do I trade?? who for?? Also only one bench coverage so two donuts ATM!!

  46. Dan says:

    So I too have the defender dilemma with Heppell, Gibbs and Goodes. Throw in Cyril up front and I'm a bit stuck.

    Thoughts for trades this week are:
    Cyril out for Walker
    Switch Heppell to mid for Dangerfield and sit Heppell on the bench this week
    Dangerfield out for Hartlett.

    How does that sound?

    • Scott says:

      i also have dangerfield and was considering trading him out but you need to stay with him.. u have more issues to worry about instead.. if i was you i would just trade 1 of ur defenders for a premium like hartlett

  47. Joseph says:

    Thoughts on Charlie Dixon??

  48. spinnerau1 says:

    Just when it couldnt get any worse…HEPPELL!!

    ok, with my current line up, 2 trades yet to use,$252,400 in the war chest and 1 win, 2 losses so far, I'm looking at 1 donut for the round (Heppel) and going 1 and 3 this round…………

    Goddard, Heppell, Stevenson, Shaw, Terlich, Vlastuin (Goodes, Frost)

    Ablett, Pendlebury, Swan, Dangerfield, Omeara*, Dwyer, Evans*, Kommer (Gibbs, Crouch)

    Luenberger, Bellchambers (Rowe* Currie)

    Westhoff, Cox, Kennedy, Rockliff, Lecras, Neade (Macaffer, Lee)

    Dwyer out for Mayes
    Goodes out for Birchall

    Leaves me with $35,700 But a fighting chance this round a least!!

    Thoughts and suggestions as always are appreciated!! 🙂

    "Out Pick, Out Play, Out Score"!!!

    • spinnerau1 says:

      OR…………leave it alone altogether…take the probable lose and maintain focus on making a bit more cash in the next 3-4 weeks for a heavier warchest?

  49. Fabian says:

    Going blitz to Gawn and hutchins to a premium DEF. Unsure who to go to, Taylor, Dixon, or Shaw. I'm worried about how injuries to cats and pies will impact shaw and taylor's scores… but is Dixon someone who will continue to score so highly?

    • @Mr_Crimmins says:

      Shaw for mine. Injuries won't affect him as I expect Harry O to go back and play defensive role. Have confidence in selection

  50. James says:

    Have we missed the boat on Mayes? i was hoping to get him in for dwyer.

  51. Sully says:

    Sinclair for gawn gives $224,800 left in the bank.
    then pittard to who? with $460,000 to spend

  52. Heytman says:

    Shaw, Dixon or Scotland. Who do you guys rate as the best pick?

  53. Jake says:

    need to get rid of one of fyfe, gibbs or heppel otherwise i lose simple as that

  54. dannyboy says:

    i got backline dramas, just like everyone else. so im looking for a def rookie, preferably playing to avoid a donut. im thinkin nathan wright or nick vlastuin. vlastuin is 20k more expensive, but wright has played 3 games with an ave of 44. if anyone has an opinion on this i would love to hear it cos its driving me nuts. and if there is anyone else i should look at. im sure lots of people have this prolem.

    • Michael says:

      Brandon Ellis worth a punt? $237800, last score 134, BE -32

      • dannyboy says:

        not for me im after someone cheaper, i need the cash.

        • Gillie4 says:

          Josh saunders scored 29…and I'm not like these rookies for saints their all not scoring well and there in and out of the side. Justin Clarke scored 40 which is okay and Wright is averaging 44 and is 138K and plays for saints not much job security don't like the look of him! Vlaistuin only scored 38 but looked good but too much! I'm going to take the punt on Seirakowski! He is in his fourth year because of injuries and looks like a gun!

  55. Gillie4 says:

    This is my trades for the week going to hold Gibbs and Goodes on the bench!
    I have 144,000 in the bank:
    Out: Pittard In: Seriakowski
    Out: Blicavs In: Gawn
    These trades Leaves me with 345,000 in the bank

    • Sully says:

      sounds good

    • Sunka says:

      Why Seirakowski of the few other options there? I don't know much about him but would happily take him if you can convince me! I was looking at J.Clarke playing his second game and N. Wright playing his 3rd at $133k

      • Gillie4 says:

        Josh saunders scored 29…and I'm not liking these rookies for saints their all not scoring well and there in and out of the side. Justin Clarke scored 40 which is okay and Wright is averaging 44 and is 138K and plays for saints not much job security don't like the look of him! Vlaistuin only scored 38 but looked good but too much! I'm going to take the punt on Seirakowski! He is in his fourth year because of injuries and looks like a gun!

        • Sunka says:

          Fair Call. Well you helped me narrow it down to Clarke or Sierakowski til tomorrow! I like fighting the small battles of Supercoach. Makes you feel like a winner… even when you lose!

          • Gillie4 says:

            Go Clarke he's the best out of them because of low price played well enough and on the bubble take a look at him! Think he will be good tho but Clarke this week then look at next week downgrade like a heath, Stevenson, Brown or terlich.

  56. Sully says:

    Sinclair for gawn gives $224,800 left in the bank.
    then pittard to who? with $460,000 to spend???

    • Gillie4 says:

      I think downgrade because you can't get someone decent at that price! Downgrade to Sierakowski!

      • dannyboy says:

        how good is sierkowski? he hasnt played a game yet is he worth the risk? josh saunders for the saints is the same price as him and has played 1 game coming up for his second, and named on the ground. justin clarke is in the same boat. what about these guys?

        • Sunka says:

          Wright is starting to look the safest at $133k but I'm tempted to take the risk on another…..

  57. Andrew says:

    Knowing that Docherty is dropped for Sunday, who would be a good downgrade option for Pittard

  58. crabby says:

    what do we think of dixon?
    all this talk of shaw or hatlett is interesting, but i'm not so sure dixon should be out of the discussion as a real premium option.

  59. Pete says:

    Massive dilemma in my backline this week – Gibbs, Goodes, Pittard and Hutchins all omitted, plus Nat Fyfe out of my mids, but at least I have cover.

    What sort of options do I have in defense to avoid a donut? Docherty and Laird also ruled out so not many downgrade options.

    Zero cash in the war chest at the moment…used that up last week to get Birch (sigh)

    May be forced to sideways trade Gibbs for Dixon and Pittard to Stevenson or Terlich? PLEASE HELP!!

    • Pete says:

      On the positive side, I'm playing bottom of the ladder team who scored 1400 last round. Worth the risk to ride the bump and put up with the two donuts in defense?

      • Dee says:

        Well if you think you'll beat your opponents average of 1400 this week, then ride the bump by saving a trade. Have one donut and maybe upgrade a rookie defender to a premium, maybe even downgrade to generate some cash!

  60. udi says:

    downgrade pittard to vlastuin. trade and bank some money

    • Michael says:

      I'm waiting another week as Vlastuin has played only 1 game… Traded Pittard this week for Shaw.

      If Vlastuin plays well, i'm bringing him in next week for Heath or Stevenson… probably Heath

      • udi says:

        i m going to get 2 more premium players and start building a warchest for the bye rounds. about 600K will come handy for the 3 upcoming bye rounds. got 5 players from PAdelaide and they got the bye in round 11.

  61. Vic City says:

    I'm totally screwed this week, like most people, in the back. Have Heppell, Gibbs, Goodes, Pittard, and Docherty which means I need to use both my trades there to reduce it down to 1 doughnut, and abandoning my Blicavs -> Gawn trade.
    Thinking Gibbs -> Dixon and Pittard -> Stevenson
    doesn't do anything for me in the long run but prevents too devastating a round.


  62. Dee says:

    I got Hartlett, Duffield, Gibbs, Heppell, Goodes, Pittard, Terlich and Vlastuin in the back line! What to do? $347K in the kitty….. Thinking of trading out GIBBS for BIRCHALL and upgrading PITTARD to DIXON. Leaves me with 25K left in the kitty…. This avoids me from getting that dreaded donut! It kills me to let GIBBS go, but I get the feeling he'll be out longer than 1-2 weeks with that hamstring injury. In badly need of help, so thoughts and suggestions from anyone would be kindly appreciated!

    • Dee says:

      Or even PITTARD to SHAW…. Depends what option is better, this leaves me 18K in the kitty. Or should I even side trade to another rookie PITTARD to O'SHEA which leaves me with a healthier 200K in the war chest! Hmmmmmm….. Any advice??

      • dave says:

        pittard to shaw sounds good than birch

      • chandanrajdb says:

        Hi Dee,

        I have got the exact same problem…..

        I am going with the following trades….

        OUT: Gibbs & Pittard

        IN: Dixon & H Shaw

        My gut feel says……the trades what i have done is the good one ATM………might change!!!!…………

        I am still not sure on C Dixon / H Shaw / M Hibberd / S Burgoyne…….which 2…..A Big Question mark……


        • Dee says:

          Hi Raj, have you got Birchall?

          • chandanrajdb says:

            Hi Dee,

            No I don't have Birchall……and i am not going after him this week…..reason is he is bit expensive at the moment and he will reduce in his price after the last week score of 80 odd may be that's the time we need to look at him…….will wait for him for couple of weeks……just get him in before the easy draw for hawks…….

            What do you think….????


            • Dee says:

              Hi Raj, got Birchall and Shaw in for Pittard and Gibbs… Good time to get Shaw in, scored a 125 for me tonight! I know Birchall will get cheaper but I had to get another defender in my back line to avoid getting that donut! LOL. At least now he's locked in my team…. It was a very close call with Dixon tho! Couldn't split them but I think Birchall will be more consistent through out the season.

  63. zman says:

    Back line VERY weak.

    Ditching Pittard.

    Premium: Burgoyne or Shaw
    Sideways: Brandon Ellis

    What say you? Please and thank you!

  64. Sully says:

    pittard to vlaustin?

  65. johnnno says:

    With this weeks carnage to defenses around the nation, at least the captain’s loophole can be executed with surety!! Goodes or Gibbs looking good for that role.

  66. Jottie says:

    I have benched Hepell, goodes gibbs
    By working a bit of DPP I managed to trade dwyer for goddard and sinclair for gawn. I think i will survive the defence disaster

    Just wondering if any1 knows the status of b. crouch and how long heppell will be out for?

  67. jonathan says:

    Do I trade Pittard to Clarke enabline me to OUT Wines for Hartlett so I can swing out heppell OR just trade out Goodes for Dixon?

    My Defence is Goodes, Heppel, Goddard, Frost, Stevenson, Birchall, Pittard and Gibbs at the moment???????

  68. Will says:

    cox or nic nat?

  69. Sam says:

    i have heppell, colquhoun, gibbs and goodes in my backline. thinking of going dwyer –> vlastuin and subbing colquhoun into my mids. Here's the dilemma, do I trade Goodes to Shaw or Waters? This will leave me with only one premium spot in my defence, which i'm reserving for birchall so i dunno which one to get.

  70. johnnny sinns says:

    watson or pendlebury?

  71. Luke says:

    Was having trouble like everyone this week, and had $240,000 in bank. With Gibbs, Goodes, Pittard and docherty all in the backline, had to do something. I didnt want to lose Gibbs or Goodes as I think both will be really valuable in the long term. And I really wanted to bring Heath Shaw in while his cheap with his very small BE.
    So this weeks trades are:
    Pittard -> Heath Shaw
    B Crouch(MID) -> Vlastuin in the midfield, then subbed Gibbs to midfield bench and put Vlastuin on the ground in Defense. This will also be valuable in the bye rounds with another DPP. Gibbs will be put back into Defense once he comes back in.
    What do you think?

    • @Mr_Crimmins says:

      Love it. I too have done the Pittard to Shaw trade. Also a MID/DEF DPP is invaluable come bye around as you said. I'm a big fan of this, execute!!

  72. Zimmer says:

    Hey there again Mr. C. Need your advice, and that of anyone else who'd like to chip in.

    I've got: Heppell, Gibbs, Goodes, Hutchins and Pittard.

    Without trading I'm looking at three donuts. Had planned on bringing in some rookies such as Docherty, Laird, etc, but of course now they're not playing.

    This means I have to trade down on another line, in order to cover at least one of those three donuts. The only way I seem to be able to make a decent trade, however, is to get rid of Goodes.

    ie. I can do Dwyer, to T.Lee; then Goodes to Dixon, or Shaw. Any other trade just seems to be of little purpose.

    The other option is, just suck it up this week and trade in rookies on other lines to upgrade in the next week or so?

    Feedback appreciated.

    • Zimmer says:

      Is Vlastuin worth bringing in. Will he keep his spot. I notice he's named starting on the ball this week. Big wraps on him pre-season.

      Option 1: Blicavs to Gawn; Pittard to Vlastuin = (two donuts and cash for future upgrades)
      Option 2: Dwyer to Kerridge; Goodes to Dixon/Shaw = (still two donuts but a premium in the backline)

      Doing my head in.

      • @Mr_Crimmins says:

        I reckon option 2…because you'll have opportunity to trade down Stevenson and Terlich down the track – that'll be your cash generation. Plus it's 1 less premium you have to worry about getting into backline. Execute.

    • rosco_peco says:

      T. Lee isn't playing is he?

      • Zimmer says:

        Yeah, I overlooked that. Decided Kerridge would be a better option anyway. Thanks.

      • Zimmer says:

        Yeah, I just realised that. Had already decided Kerridge would be a better option anyway. Thanks.

  73. hayden says:

    I have gibbs heppel Pittard Goodes Goddard Yarren ( stevenson and terlich what do i do

    • @Mr_Crimmins says:

      Bench Gibbs, maybe trade out Heppell if you want another premium, bench Goodes for another week. I'd hold Gibbs 100%, and if you can maybe trade out Heppell if you don't want a 0. Long term, I'd keep all 3

  74. spinnerau1 says:

    Ive traded Frost out for Seirakowski….hoping that he doesnt wear the vest, to fill the donut in my defense.

    With one trade left im looking at perhaps upgrading….Neade out for Andrew walker OR toying with the idea of Trading Currie out for Gawn?

    Thanks in advance for your thoughts!!

    "Out Pick, Out Play, Out Score"!!!

  75. Johnsy says:

    Any thoughts on Moloney?
    Has he reached his ceiling
    He has been a good earner

    • @Mr_Crimmins says:

      He's been a very solid earner. A BE of approx 66, I reckon he can achieve, but doesn't have mant price rises left. Might be good opp to upgrade to a premium if you got the trades and $$$ this week to do so.

  76. Johnsy says:

    Pittard to Seirakowski
    Moloney to Jobe

    • @Mr_Crimmins says:

      I like it – but worry about Will S' job security at North. Make sure you got another def rookie playing, because as we've seen, it's quite easy for there to be carnage and stuck with a 0

  77. rosco_peco says:

    Hibberd, Taylor, or Houli down back? Is Ellis worth a look if he's not the vest this week?

    • @Mr_Crimmins says:

      In the one game he hasn't been vested this week, he has tore it up. BUT I worry about that green vest for Ellis. Scotland the pick for mine out of all of them.

  78. rosco_peco says:

    Also Scotland and Yarran given the easy draw coming up?

  79. Nick says:

    Trading pittard out, vlaustin into defence and horlin smith comes in. I have 130k in the bank, horlin smith is doing well and will go up in price big time, is scoring quite well and with wines becoming plump pretty soon ill have money to get him out. Theres just no good defender rookies to trade in with any security.

  80. Sully says:

    pittard to vlaustin??

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  82. JR Jimmy Recard says:

    as mayes has been killing it should i sideways trade maccafer/dwyer or neade out for him???

  83. Supercoach wannabe says:

    Should I trade heppel

  84. Sunka says:

    Is Pittard expected to be back next week?

  85. Sunka says:

    Sierakowski, Clarke or Saunders? Who's the pick of the defender rookies downgrade options? I'm thinking Clarke at the moment without too much knowledge. No vest last week and named at centre half back this week

  86. JD_Cereal says:

    Is it better for me to get Pittard out For Hartlett in DEF or Dwyer for Hartlett in MID (swing to DEF)?

  87. Sully says:

    happy to take a donut this week got heppel gibbs goodes and pittard

    pittard to vlaustin

    do you think that's my best option?

    • Sully says:

      I could trade out heppel for hartlett
      and trade out pittard next week and bring in vlaustin or sierakowski depending on this weeks scores

    • Favalinko says:

      have the same problem. Moved hartlett into backline and gibbs into mid, put goodes and heppel onto bench and downgraded pittard to vlaustin. 0 donuts and $ generation for next week. ps i barrack for tigers and vlaustin is a tackling machine and great at hard ball gets which means $ in supercoach

      • Sully says:

        I did Sinclair – gawn trade as well as heppel – hartlett gives me one donut. Not sure about vlaustin's job security i'm happy to have one donut one weekas I am 3-0 in all three of my leagues

  88. crabby says:

    crimm, shaw, walker, dixon, hartlett, watson- who is best to get in this week if you had to pick one?

  89. JR Jimmy Recard says:

    cheers crimmo

  90. @emhoy says:

    Nice Dwyer not sub I will not be making any trades tonight, will see how Dwyer and Macaffer go as I can use the Emergency loophole for both in mids and fwds. Also have pendles and swan so can assess my points after tonight before deciding how to fix my backline.

  91. Henry says:

    Hey Mr Crimmo. Basically nice article but you seemed to lose your thread a couple of times. You start talking about trading out Pittard but then got confused and finished up on Heath. Then you gave Dwyer's figures against Melbourne. But Collingwood haven't played Melbourne. Tough day with all the carnage.

  92. Max says:

    Who best to get in for Dwyer? (as a downgrade)

  93. Nanna says:

    any views on emerging rookies for post the bye rounds? obviously starting to upgrade those ripe rookies, but are there going to be any more playing rookies coming into range after the next half dozen rounds?

    don't want to be downgrading to non-playing rookies if i don't have to. want the coverage in case there is a repeat of round 'defence carnage' in the form of, dare i say it, 'midfield carnage'!!