Monday Poll – THE CHOPPING BLOCK
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As we discussed, this week is all about making sure you take advantage of the player price changes that will kick in after this round.
- You want to make sure you nail those bargains that will have a big price rise
- You want to get rid of the bludging dead wood before the big price drop.
Many are asking about which players need the big CHOP this week. Thought we’d put it out to Poll. Select all the players (if any) from this list that you would KEEP… then drop in a comment below and let us know why.
Jock
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All disgusting
Poo
Especially Jack Watts
Keep ryder and zorko for now they both can turn it on.
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Ditched Bennell for Crouch last week (GREAT MOVE in my opinion) and Karnezis for Dwyer this week. Happily sitting on $620,000 before I look to pounce on a price dropping premium upgrade (Ablett?) in the next few weeks.
I’m keeping Ryder for another week then probably trading to Berger; got Bellchmabers and Ryder rucking want to give them another week and see how They go against a team other than Melbourne (RIP). Zorko I’m hoping will be magnificent this week.
If you are trading Ryder for Berger do it now, Before his price goes down.
I did it last week convinced by mick the mad irishman and his 2 questions.
And with the free 300k in my bank now watts will be cut and enter a premium
Traded watts Evan faran ray thinks he is shit
Is Zorko gonna get some form back or what?
Who could say really? If I had 4 trades this week then he would be packing his bags from his short stay at Chez SCa. But since I don't he gets a stay of execution for one more week.
Hopefully he explodes against GCS as I really don't want to be forced to get rid of him. I'm setting 95pts as the pass mark. Anything less and he's goneskies!
In the same boat. Not enough trades to get him out. Hoping for a much better output
Yeah, me too. Have jetta & sylvia avg 50. So hoping roughhead & zorko come good. After all i bought them as premiums.
no there crap get Ritove those to get Rocklif and t.walker
Call me insane, but I reckon we should keep Watts – his output should improve from here, and for Melbourne the only way is up. I'm fully expecting him to average 90 for the rest of the season.
According to mark nealde they're "not out of the basement yet"….that's a scary proposition for dees fans!
You are insane 🙂
No you're not insane…..
You're bloody certifiable!
Coasters in their desperate efforts to secure their first W will be crucifying every single Dee who has the misfortune to front up to the G this Saturday.
So I would brace yourself for a massive stock collapse on the Watts commodity. In fact it's likely to get de-listed by next Monday as Supercoach Admins will probably refuse to buy him back from you.
Actually they may even revoke your dealer's licence as well on the grounds of incompetence or non compos mentis!
You are crazy
Insane. Get out.
should i get rid of karnezis or not. Help
If he is sub yes. If you don't have Dwyer or neade, yes. If you have Dwyer and neade, AND he's named on field, it shouldn't affect his price too much
Like Brad said if he is sub then yes, but if you don't have young Sam Dwyer from the pies then you should trade out Karnezis.
what happens to Sam Dwyer when Thomas and Beams are playing? :
Dwyer is doing now what fasolo did two years ago. He is forcing his way in through good performances but im hoping he doesnt drop off the way alex did towards the end of the year.
But I've already have neade macaffer and lee
I trade Macaffer to Dwyer, Karnezis to Kennedy
No point trading macaffer out until his price goes up mate, trade Dwyer in for someone who isn’t playing or performing
already have kennedy
I have 70000 in the bank. I'm going watts to birchell.
i already have neade macaffer and lee. i also need to get rid of karnezis.
Karna to Dwyer. Lee is a spud so u should be rid of him ASAP
Btw I accidentally voted for who I'd cut, not keep HAHA. I'm letting Zorko prove his worth until at least round 5 o 6
I was wondering why there was a small percentage of coaches willing to keep burnmen Broughton and Watts. 🙂
Jack Watts – Watt a disappointment.
Had him in my forward line, was hoping for big things. Now he's wearing a Collingwood jumper, changed his named to Sam Dwyer and 420k has mysteriously appeared in my bank. Funny game, football…
Probably keep Zorko. Have Taylor Walker and he's got 2 more weeks, dumped Karnezis and luckily tradeed out Bennell for Maloney at the start of rd 1, but used the extra cash to bring in Ben Jacobs, so it was kind of a wash in the end.
Thoughts on Dangerfield everyone? Keep or Trade to someone like Mitchell/Watson?
Was thinking about the same problem Tom. My opinion, bloke is a star. 2 rough-ish weeks out of 23. Went into rd 1 with the flu and almost was a late withdrawal. Give him a chance!
Or if you really want to trade him and you don't have Moloney……
Looks like a sideway trade to me. Remember he started with 4 scores <100 last year before he went on a rampage.
So are you saying keep him or ditch him
I think you have to keep him. You often forget the sideways trades that work out ok but you ALWAYS remember the sideways trades that bite you on the backside.
You'd hate Paddy to go off in the Showdown and say Watson to get tagged out of it by Crowley if you made that move.
Paddy is too much quality not to come through with the goods soon.
i traded Dangerfield for Wingard. Then after Danger Drops $40K and Wingard goes up $60K i can trade Danger back in for Round 4. Yes i wasted two trades but i get $100,000 out of it. 30 trades is enough to allow for a few sideways trades when there is at least $100,000 to make
Keep dander field as he is a main part of Adelaide getting high points each week
Trade up to Watson as danger will drop heaps this week and Watson will go up.
I already have Watson and thus am sticking with Danger for the long term
I'm surprised there was no Roughead. I was hoping to see his name there and the communities thoughts on him because I have him currently and I'm unsure what to do with him. Maybe trade down to Leunberger. Please comment
Cheers
With Bailey on his feet Roughie isn't contesting as many centre bounces this year, hence his scores have suffered. Never rated him as a pure forward either.
I've got Roughie as well. Under their current structure it is unlikely he can score much more than he did yesterday. I'm thinking maybe sideways to big boy McEvoy or possibly bellchambers or leuy
I reckon that would be a decent move. Not sure I'm quite there yet on Belly but yes both Leuey and McEvoy are proven performers in the past.
I just can't see Roughy getting back to his scoring average of last year with Bailey seemingly entrenched in that team now.
Thinking of chopping 2 of:
Koby Stevens
Karnezis
Roughie
to bring in two out of
Crouch
JJ Kennedy
Leuenberger
Which two from each list do you reckon? If I get JJ and Berger for Roughie and Karnagezis I get a spare $250000. Tasty.
Do it
Yes hold on to Koby. Pretty sure he was only vested as a precaution last week. Shouldn't get the vest again given the impact he's had when he's played.
Kick ass, thanks fellas.
Bring in JJ Kennedy for sure, lock that one in for this week. If I were you I'd hold off on bringing in Leuenberger for one more week, give him the game against the Suns to see if he really is back. Bring in Crouch, he'll have a good day against the Power and will almost certainly make you some cash.
The issue here is who do you get rid of? I'd hold onto Roughie this week. If he disappoints with a poor game (and price drops), you can counter that with a price rise in Leuenberger, assuming he has a great game this week. If he doesn't, you haven't burnt a trade on a dud (not that big burger is a dud, but you get the sentiment).
Your first two to bring in are valid mate, but i reckon wait on berger. Kennedyis a gun and crouch looks ok as well, but stevens and karnezis are rubbish. Wait on roughie, he will improve i reckon.
thoughts on luke parker, projected increase of 120k over two weeks..
nice downgrade from rich, thoughts?
also, westoff for watts..
Westoff is a downhill skier of the highest order. Avoid.
swans have played gws and gc first two weeks, inflated scores? Barlow or Mundy for mine
Yeah my others thoughts exactly.. I was thinking barlow, but on the other hand if parker inflates up to 450k i can then upgrade to someone like kennedy in two or 3 weeks as I have 200k in the bank with these trades
Parker is a gun, wish I'd gone with him instead of Mitch Duncan as my potential "breakout" mid.
May have played some lower ranked sides but scored with contested posessions and tackles. Get around him!
His team mate Moloney is another viable trade down to consider too.
In already
Trading Watts for Westhoff is very much a sideways trade and definitely something you don't want to be doing, I suggest if you don't have Neade, Dwyer or even Macaffer you could look at trading down.
Or even swing him into the back line and trade him down for one of the Port rookies.
Fraid that doesn't work mate. He needs to be in defence for that to happen or for Liam to have ANOTHER FWD/DEF swing like burnman Broughton.
Yeah cheers, it was just a thought, I have neade and dwyer already, I'm not to sure about downgrading to macaffer, with the getting of parker i have 200k in the bank i can get any forward premium i want.. suggestions?
How cone no-one considers Q.Lynch? Scored fairly well both rounds so far, and only $363K !?
What about Maloney?
Gday there Liam – I love the Parker boy mate – only thing to be wary of is his first 2 opponents which were GWS and the Suns. However… he was vest eggected last season and he wont be effected again. Valid.
Thanks jock I will definitely consider! My issue is who do I trade out for watts, with the trade in off parker I have 126k in the bank on top of watts 440k, who do you suggest?
Other thoughts: Downgrade watts to macaffer and upgrade rich to a strong premium?
I'm in the same place with Rich, although he has GCS and Melbourne in the next 3 weeks, I'm considering either trading down to Moloney/Parker or up to Pendles (200k in the bank)
My question is should I only be trading down at this stage of the year and aim to bring in Pendles later on, or just go bang with the money made from Karnezis to Neade
My question is the same, i have the upgrade option but this downgrading could make me a lot of cash
On Roughie, looks like he ain’t rucking no more. Was the ruck role a big component of his high scores last year?
Yeah probably accounted for at least 30-40 of his points I reckon. Of course he'll score more forward this season as he'll spend more time there but it's a not a perfect offset.
I would guesstimate he's about a 10-15pt worse player than last year but only time will tell the full story. Those who stick by him may be rewarded but I'm getting off at this stop before the price changes myself especially with Leuey looking so juicy right now.
I'll be Keeping Zorko and Karnezis, who are the only 2 I have out of all them. If I had Bennell, I would keep him too. I would get rid of everyone else though.
Me too although Zorko and Karny will only get one more week's good grace from me. The NAB Cup can go and get itself stuffed as can Vossy!
Got Ryder, Watts, Karnezis and Zorko.
Watts looks out of sorts, so he's out for Dixon.
Ryder couldn't light up against Melb, so he's out for J Kennedy.
Give the Brissy boys a couple of extra weeks.
Thomas, didak, fasolo, krak to come back into collingwood's best 22, dwyer could find himself in the twos simply because of the depth collingwood have in the high half forward position.
We only need Dwyer to play 5 or 6 rounds to generate us cash then upgrade him to pav who will fall in price
Yep! That’s this plan.
Is it worth blowing a trade on a guy who is only going to play for a month?
It's a vexed question. His place in the side could be cut at any point such is fhe Pies depth as you mentioned.
But I reckon you have to get on him if he's named in the final 22 this weekend or else you could be missing out on one of the most lucrative cash cows of the season. He could conceivably double in price in just one round if he has another 100pt game!
Dwyer looked better on Sunday than Fasolo has ever looked, and than Didak has looked in the past 2 seasons. No offense intended, but I hope Broomhead takes longer than 10 weeks to recover from glandular fever cos Dwyer can play.
Aglee with all Pies fans comments – got Dwyer early – he's a gun! Wish we had him at NMFC – c'mon AtleyHarper someone needs to spark without Harvey. Btw- I will pounce on Pie Beams when he comes back.
dwyer is a gun, i was there yesterday and his attack at the ball, willingness to run and contest will earn him a place in the squad for the immediate future. Seedsman will be dropped before dwyer and that form = 100+ supercoach scores. Hawthorn this week will see dwyer a little quieter but still beating karnezis, mccaffer and possibly neade in my case. If you have him, lick your chops over massive price rises and having pav or possibly bartel/stevie j with trading a neade or mccaffer with him
Have got both Roughy and Ryder, as well as Bennell and Karnezis.
Thinking of going Roughy or Ryder (which one?) to Berger;
and Bennell to Watson or Mitchell.
Will leave me 150 or 200 grand to do more tinkering next week.
What do you reckon?
So long as you have all the lock rookies as well as GAJ then yes looks a pretty sweet move to me.
Get josh j Kennedy 100+ round 1 and 2 only 299k
Eagles have a very good draw heading into the bye rounds and should win most if not all those games comfortably, especially given key players are set to return. I reckon Kennedy will generate a nice load of cash =]
Traded Watts out for Goddard
How about josh Kennedy in for Zorko?
any thoughts?
Yeah I like both those trades but maybe look at downgrading watts to a rookie……?
Tom scully is another one I had high hopes for, he spends the whole game bludging around the edge of packs for cheap ball that never comes
I don’t have Rockliff, do I trade Zorko for him?
If you have no other issues to deal with in your team then I'd unfortunately say probably yes. But the rest of your team would have to be close to perfect to consider such a move. Is there no other logical way to get Rocky into your team?
And there's no guarantees that Zorko won't go off against the Suns so don't rip me next week if you make the move and this happens. 🙂
That’s a good point. I scored 2,330 this week pretty happy with my defense, midfield is doing ok I have Danger and Murphy with high b/e but ill stick by them at least till round six! The only other one who I’m not sure about is Roughy? Was thinking maybe trading him for Rocky if he’s going to sit in the forward line all year but then again he scored more than Zorko.
I'd get rid of Roughy for Zorko/Bartel
Where is newman on this list?
Def giving him and karnezis the chop. Not sure who I'll bring in though.
Zorko is close to going out as well
Had to chop Rough Orange, then went newman before KarnEEhAAz as thought there are better value backs then fronts. Dixon could be the huge breakout, Birchill is killing it, Suban less so then the rookies of port and goodes.
i'm lucky I don't have rough. was considering him. Yeah dixon does look quite good. Will either bring in him, heath from port or shaw/waters. Already Have birch, gibbs, goddard, goodes and the other 2 port defenders with terlich.
Up forward it will either be a neade or dwyer or even rockliff.
should i downgrade danger to moloney then trade out new for bichall?
newman*
danger to moloney is a step backwards in the long run, tough start for danger but will still be a have a higher average than moloney. Another to generate cash perhaps?
Hey Guys Westoff and Monfries as a optio. Look big on Ken Hinkleys plans? Please reply.
Never been a fan of Westoff, beasts against weak opponents, but disapears against better sides. Has looked better under Hinkley, but I still wouldn't feel comfortable bringing him in after 2 games against weak opponents.
Westhoff can downhill ski with the best of them so he's looked bloody brilliant the past few weeks beating up on the Dees and GWS hasn't he. But will he stand up when things aren't going so sweet against better opposition?
To be fair he's performed ok in Showdowns.
But I like Monfries more and is cheaper.
Westoff will struggle this week against the Adelaide defence. You'd think Talia would pick him up, with Rutten going to Schultz. I'm not convinced. Handy if you had him last week, but will burn you this week.
Monfries is an interesting one. I had Hayes last year and I see Monfries as a similar proposition – awkwardly priced, but with clear potential to get you solid scores week in, week out. I'd only pick him up if you are prepared to hold him for a while, as I can't see him making you a great deal of $$$.
im trading karneis out for j.j. kennedy
Smart move!
I was thinking karnezis -> Dwyer but maybe same as you, and kerridge -> Dwyer? That way I’ll lose dead weight, make cash and increase point output… Solid move?
kerridge is close, wait for team news this week. If he isn't named, then go ahead with karny>dwyer
For me:
OUT
Watts/karnezis
IN
C. Dixon for Watts.
Move G.Broughton to FWD bench, D. Pearce to DEF and in goes A.Mullett (One of the games greatest names!) to the MID
Already had Dwyer and am happy to sit Broughton on the shelf for another week as his price wont drop yet.
Hope you've got Ivan in the ruck, tapping to Mullett! Thought I was getting a unique with Dixon, but seems everyone's onto him.
Dixon/Mullett play two fantasy relevant games and the eyes light up based on their average. Not convinced at all that they can continue their purple patch. Be cautious
Dixon looks like he's bulked up a bit this year and is a lot more confident. I think he's going to be decent this year. Against the Suns he will definitely have a crack at a big score. Worth the gamble, in my opinion. Mullett will definitely get you some capital for the following week. Do you think he'll maintain his form? I don't think he'll average over 100, but he will definitely average over 80.
Is it worth keeping Shuey for another week, because they are playing Melbourne?
Yes hold on to him he's a star
Melb don't have the taggers,Shuey wil go off along with Kennedy ,
Karneezee to Neade
Bennell to Cotchin
Watts to Dixon and Levi Caput to JJK. What do you think? Had O'Meara on the bench this week, no idea who to bench in his place!
Dumping Rich. Can't shake a tag to save himself.
Rich down to Crouch (offed him when he didn't get selected for rd 1) and Karnezis up to Rockliff with the dollars. It's a Lions type of week.
Keeping danger and zorko.
Only one trade this week. Not travelling too flash but determined to keep faith in the premiums I have choose.
Might consider gray this week and punt varcoe if he is picked. Not sure. Thoughts?
Danger will get a tag every single week, completely stops Adelaide's clearance rate
I think that is only partially true. Danger can still shake tags with his strength and he got good support with sloane, thompson and now crouch. Not quite collingwood, but if opps concentrate too much on danger, those others will hurt them.
With Danger gettin the regular tag think Thompson will flourish.
Dangermouse>>>Thomo ?
zorko is pretty much a rookie mate… only played 20 games i think everyone got a bit ahead of themselves with him
Will Daniel Currie play a single game and will he be any good if he does?
What are everyone's thoughts? Trade him out for Blicavs?
Personally I'm keeping him at R4, he's a very valued member of my team, comes in handy for the captain loophole 😉 but I guess it depends of the rest of your team and ruck situation if you want to trade him or not
Used up 4 trades already, but they are all corrective and well thought through, hopefully no injuries and my side will be trade free for a couple of weeks until I start milking the cows.
Last weeks trades:
OUT: Karnezis, Mitchell
IN: Dwyer, Wines
This weeks trades:
OUT: Watts, Newman
IN: Birchall, J.J.Kennedy
The trades have also banked me a nice $124k for later use
Good move Benno, even with the injuries woes of last season, 24 trades was plenty for me. I figure I've got 4/5/6 corrective trades up my sleeve before normal buy low/sell high trading comes into effect
Karnezis out and in kennedy and Ryder out and in Dwyer thoughts?
I went like this for this week.
OUT: Varcoe, Roughead
IN: JJ Kennedy, Leuenberger.
Got 537k in the bank. hoping for buddy to have a price drop then karnezis out buddy in.
Waiting to see how leuy pulls up, remember he was sole ruck on the weekend. If longer returns he may steal a few points
Will dwyer play every week?
i highly doubt it
No way. With Daisy back in this week and Fasolo, Ball and Young to come, his tenure is limited. What's more when Ball comes back, even just to the 2s, Collingwood would have to return either Dwyer or Frost to the rookie list and rookie-listed players are not allowed to be selected. However if you were asking should you trade Dwyer into your team, it would probably be a good move. After Round 3 his price should go up $80,000 or so. You could trade him out straight after he gets dropped.
Not to forgot beams as well. I just can't justify the trade for a bloke who will be sitting on the bench. Yes, the initial price rise is handy, but he won't make much more. If you had him from the start, congratulate yourself, well done. If not, lick your wounds, move on
which two forwards do i bench out of: neade, dwyer, karnezis, rowe and mccafer. ??
i would say probably neade as emergency and either rowe or macaffer as subs. And depending on how your team looks at the moment i would trade out karnezis for JJK
I would wait until teams are announced. Will rowe play again? Would have dwyer ahead of macaffer if he is named. Had him on the bench in rd 1 because of green vest and he still outscored macaffer.
I liked the look of rowe in the wet, tough conditions for the big man. Bit of rubbish last term drove his score down, was on a respectable 71sc points at 3/4 time.
To answer your question; I'd bench macaffer and whoever isn't named. If they all are, neade.
Got a few options this week
Potential outs – Rich / Karnezis / Roughead / Docherty /Lee
Have most of the gun rookies except Neade / Dwyer / Wines / Heath
Looking for some opinions
wines HAS to be in
As mentioned below, I have just got rid of Zorko & Karnezis for Monfries & Dwyer. Cash generation is the name of the game in the early rounds, particularly before the leagues start. I also have Neade on the forward line. Both Dwyer and Neade will probably go up $80,000. Get rid of Karnezis and Lee. It will put you into a great trading position in a couple of weeks' time.
Totally agree. So maybe wines for rich as he seems your only underperforming mid.
Who to trade out for watts and rich, suggestions needed.. barlow is being considered but struggling with watts
Which position so you have watts in?
And also rich for moloney or Parker if you don't have them… Or maybe wines, crouch etc….
I have watts in forward which is killing me, already have dwyer neade but could go macaffer..
Yeah i have moloney already and as of now I have traded rich for parker
my other option is to downgrade watts to macaffer and then upgrade rich to kennedy?
Should I trade Vlaustin -> Heath. I dont have any real problems. Need Zorko to lift though. Maybe Cheers.
Yeah I think that's a good idea! All about generating cash in these early rounds…!
What are the thoughts about westoff, I'm considering him
no sir!
Adelaide and gcfc next 2 weeks. Has to be good for $70k rise
Beats up the weak teams – downhill skier . Avoid
How do I move a player from one position to another within my team and add someone new back into his old position?
You need to have someone in the other position who has the same position eligibility, then simply press the sub button.
If you’re trading, click trade on the player you’re dropping, then in the trade menu an S should appear next to other players on your team that are eligible. For example, you want to get rid of zorko, who is in your forward, and you have bartel in your mid. Hit zorko’s trade button. An S should appear next to bartel, hit it to send bartel to the forward, allowing you to trade in a midfielder.
Great tip. Was wondering the same myself.
Is it alright to have 2 forward cheapies on the field
As long as they're scoring well mate!
Just what I was going to say!!!
LECRAS IS GOING TO PLAY THIS WEEKEND!!!!!!??? WHAT IS THIS
It's just a rumour. Don't get sucked in. I guarantee they wont play him even if he seems fit because they are only playing Melbourne.
Could you imagine the uproar from Eagle Nation if he played , the Coasters win by triple digits, and buggered his arm again.
Surely someone is having a laugh?
But it is still great news for the lecras faithfuls that he looks to be coming back sooner rather than later.
Yes that can't be denied.