Monday Poll – THE CHOPPING BLOCK

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Poo · 09/04/2013 at 16:03
Poo

BIGBOY · 10/04/2013 at 18:31
Especially Jack Watts

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Anandu · 08/04/2013 at 14:53
If you are trading Ryder for Berger do it now, Before his price goes down.

The benchmark · 08/04/2013 at 20:23
I did it last week convinced by mick the mad irishman and his 2 questions.

The benchmark · 08/04/2013 at 20:25
And with the free 300k in my bank now watts will be cut and enter a premium

SCaddict · 08/04/2013 at 16:11
Who could say really? If I had 4 trades this week then he would be packing his bags from his short stay at Chez SCa. But since I don't he gets a stay of execution for one more week.
Hopefully he explodes against GCS as I really don't want to be forced to get rid of him. I'm setting 95pts as the pass mark. Anything less and he's goneskies!

Fabian · 08/04/2013 at 16:22
In the same boat. Not enough trades to get him out. Hoping for a much better output

Bridgebuff · 09/04/2013 at 10:50
Yeah, me too. Have jetta & sylvia avg 50. So hoping roughhead & zorko come good. After all i bought them as premiums.

NICK · 10/04/2013 at 09:24
no there crap get Ritove those to get Rocklif and t.walker

Brad · 08/04/2013 at 13:57
According to mark nealde they're "not out of the basement yet"….that's a scary proposition for dees fans!

bridgman35 · 08/04/2013 at 14:58
You are insane 🙂

SCaddict · 08/04/2013 at 16:23
No you're not insane…..
You're bloody certifiable!
Coasters in their desperate efforts to secure their first W will be crucifying every single Dee who has the misfortune to front up to the G this Saturday.
So I would brace yourself for a massive stock collapse on the Watts commodity. In fact it's likely to get de-listed by next Monday as Supercoach Admins will probably refuse to buy him back from you.
Actually they may even revoke your dealer's licence as well on the grounds of incompetence or non compos mentis!

James · 08/04/2013 at 16:32
You are crazy

Paddy · 09/04/2013 at 14:08
Insane. Get out.

Brad · 08/04/2013 at 13:59
If he is sub yes. If you don't have Dwyer or neade, yes. If you have Dwyer and neade, AND he's named on field, it shouldn't affect his price too much

Mr_Consistent · 08/04/2013 at 17:03
Like Brad said if he is sub then yes, but if you don't have young Sam Dwyer from the pies then you should trade out Karnezis.

pdid · 09/04/2013 at 17:44
what happens to Sam Dwyer when Thomas and Beams are playing? :

James · 10/04/2013 at 18:14
Dwyer is doing now what fasolo did two years ago. He is forcing his way in through good performances but im hoping he doesnt drop off the way alex did towards the end of the year.

James · 08/04/2013 at 17:06
But I've already have neade macaffer and lee

Kano · 08/04/2013 at 17:56
I trade Macaffer to Dwyer, Karnezis to Kennedy

The Old Dylan · 08/04/2013 at 22:12
No point trading macaffer out until his price goes up mate, trade Dwyer in for someone who isn’t playing or performing

James · 08/04/2013 at 18:25
already have kennedy

James · 08/04/2013 at 18:36
I have 70000 in the bank. I'm going watts to birchell.
i already have neade macaffer and lee. i also need to get rid of karnezis.

@Popey_99 · 08/04/2013 at 21:04
Karna to Dwyer. Lee is a spud so u should be rid of him ASAP

SCaddict · 08/04/2013 at 16:50
I was wondering why there was a small percentage of coaches willing to keep burnmen Broughton and Watts. 🙂

Old Holbz · 08/04/2013 at 14:13
Was thinking about the same problem Tom. My opinion, bloke is a star. 2 rough-ish weeks out of 23. Went into rd 1 with the flu and almost was a late withdrawal. Give him a chance!

Mr_Consistent · 08/04/2013 at 17:04
Or if you really want to trade him and you don't have Moloney……

Bridgebuff · 09/04/2013 at 10:57
Looks like a sideway trade to me. Remember he started with 4 scores <100 last year before he went on a rampage.

Tom · 09/04/2013 at 14:22
So are you saying keep him or ditch him

SCaddict · 09/04/2013 at 18:33
I think you have to keep him. You often forget the sideways trades that work out ok but you ALWAYS remember the sideways trades that bite you on the backside.
You'd hate Paddy to go off in the Showdown and say Watson to get tagged out of it by Crowley if you made that move.
Paddy is too much quality not to come through with the goods soon.

AFL Guru · 10/04/2013 at 16:37
i traded Dangerfield for Wingard. Then after Danger Drops $40K and Wingard goes up $60K i can trade Danger back in for Round 4. Yes i wasted two trades but i get $100,000 out of it. 30 trades is enough to allow for a few sideways trades when there is at least $100,000 to make

Morse · 10/04/2013 at 11:24
Keep Keep Keep. He is a gun and ill still post big scores. My number 1 rule, don't sideways trade premiums if they are generally in top 10 for their relevant position. Trading for Watson this early in the season is a wasted trade, generate cash cash cash and upgrade in 5-8 rounds time.

Jeffry · 10/04/2013 at 17:04
Just remember with your gun locks – rise and falls in value really dont matter at all if you're keeping them for their season average – as you wont actually use the increase value unless you trade that player.
So if you think danger will come good, dont sideways trade.

Poo · 09/04/2013 at 15:57
Keep dander field as he is a main part of Adelaide getting high points each week

Rocksta · 09/04/2013 at 21:24
Trade up to Watson as danger will drop heaps this week and Watson will go up.
I already have Watson and thus am sticking with Danger for the long term

Kev · 08/04/2013 at 14:39
With Bailey on his feet Roughie isn't contesting as many centre bounces this year, hence his scores have suffered. Never rated him as a pure forward either.

Gilly · 08/04/2013 at 15:25
I've got Roughie as well. Under their current structure it is unlikely he can score much more than he did yesterday. I'm thinking maybe sideways to big boy McEvoy or possibly bellchambers or leuy

SCaddict · 09/04/2013 at 18:40
I reckon that would be a decent move. Not sure I'm quite there yet on Belly but yes both Leuey and McEvoy are proven performers in the past.
I just can't see Roughy getting back to his scoring average of last year with Bailey seemingly entrenched in that team now.

Kev · 08/04/2013 at 14:40
Do it

SCaddict · 08/04/2013 at 17:48
Yes hold on to Koby. Pretty sure he was only vested as a precaution last week. Shouldn't get the vest again given the impact he's had when he's played.

Josh · 08/04/2013 at 19:10
Kick ass, thanks fellas.

Lachie · 08/04/2013 at 21:48
Exactly what i'm doing. Keep Koby though, he is a gun.

Cold_Willy · 09/04/2013 at 14:14
Bring in JJ Kennedy for sure, lock that one in for this week. If I were you I'd hold off on bringing in Leuenberger for one more week, give him the game against the Suns to see if he really is back. Bring in Crouch, he'll have a good day against the Power and will almost certainly make you some cash.
The issue here is who do you get rid of? I'd hold onto Roughie this week. If he disappoints with a poor game (and price drops), you can counter that with a price rise in Leuenberger, assuming he has a great game this week. If he doesn't, you haven't burnt a trade on a dud (not that big burger is a dud, but you get the sentiment).

James · 10/04/2013 at 18:17
Your first two to bring in are valid mate, but i reckon wait on berger. Kennedyis a gun and crouch looks ok as well, but stevens and karnezis are rubbish. Wait on roughie, he will improve i reckon.

@MRB37 · 08/04/2013 at 14:39
Westoff is a downhill skier of the highest order. Avoid.

Kev · 08/04/2013 at 14:42
swans have played gws and gc first two weeks, inflated scores? Barlow or Mundy for mine

Liam · 08/04/2013 at 19:45
Yeah my others thoughts exactly.. I was thinking barlow, but on the other hand if parker inflates up to 450k i can then upgrade to someone like kennedy in two or 3 weeks as I have 200k in the bank with these trades

carrot-76 · 08/04/2013 at 22:55
Parker is a gun, wish I'd gone with him instead of Mitch Duncan as my potential "breakout" mid.

John · 08/04/2013 at 15:00
May have played some lower ranked sides but scored with contested posessions and tackles. Get around him!

SCaddict · 08/04/2013 at 17:00
His team mate Moloney is another viable trade down to consider too.

Liam · 08/04/2013 at 19:44
In already

Mr_Consistent · 08/04/2013 at 17:08
Trading Watts for Westhoff is very much a sideways trade and definitely something you don't want to be doing, I suggest if you don't have Neade, Dwyer or even Macaffer you could look at trading down.
Or even swing him into the back line and trade him down for one of the Port rookies.

SCaddict · 08/04/2013 at 17:52
Fraid that doesn't work mate. He needs to be in defence for that to happen or for Liam to have ANOTHER FWD/DEF swing like burnman Broughton.

Liam · 08/04/2013 at 19:43
Yeah cheers, it was just a thought, I have neade and dwyer already, I'm not to sure about downgrading to macaffer, with the getting of parker i have 200k in the bank i can get any forward premium i want.. suggestions?

carrot-76 · 08/04/2013 at 22:57
How cone no-one considers Q.Lynch? Scored fairly well both rounds so far, and only $363K !?

Charlie · 09/04/2013 at 08:37
What about Maloney?

jockreynolds · 09/04/2013 at 09:12
Gday there Liam – I love the Parker boy mate – only thing to be wary of is his first 2 opponents which were GWS and the Suns. However… he was vest eggected last season and he wont be effected again. Valid.

Liam · 09/04/2013 at 10:22
Thanks jock I will definitely consider! My issue is who do I trade out for watts, with the trade in off parker I have 126k in the bank on top of watts 440k, who do you suggest?
Other thoughts: Downgrade watts to macaffer and upgrade rich to a strong premium?

bridgman35 · 09/04/2013 at 10:45
I'm in the same place with Rich, although he has GCS and Melbourne in the next 3 weeks, I'm considering either trading down to Moloney/Parker or up to Pendles (200k in the bank)
My question is should I only be trading down at this stage of the year and aim to bring in Pendles later on, or just go bang with the money made from Karnezis to Neade

Liam · 09/04/2013 at 11:20
My question is the same, i have the upgrade option but this downgrading could make me a lot of cash

SCaddict · 08/04/2013 at 17:03
Yeah probably accounted for at least 30-40 of his points I reckon. Of course he'll score more forward this season as he'll spend more time there but it's a not a perfect offset.
I would guesstimate he's about a 10-15pt worse player than last year but only time will tell the full story. Those who stick by him may be rewarded but I'm getting off at this stop before the price changes myself especially with Leuey looking so juicy right now.

SCaddict · 08/04/2013 at 17:06
Me too although Zorko and Karny will only get one more week's good grace from me. The NAB Cup can go and get itself stuffed as can Vossy!

Emma · 08/04/2013 at 14:59
We only need Dwyer to play 5 or 6 rounds to generate us cash then upgrade him to pav who will fall in price

Nick · 08/04/2013 at 17:14
Yep! That’s this plan.

Kev · 09/04/2013 at 11:29
Is it worth blowing a trade on a guy who is only going to play for a month?

SCaddict · 09/04/2013 at 11:48
It's a vexed question. His place in the side could be cut at any point such is fhe Pies depth as you mentioned.
But I reckon you have to get on him if he's named in the final 22 this weekend or else you could be missing out on one of the most lucrative cash cows of the season. He could conceivably double in price in just one round if he has another 100pt game!

SCaddict · 08/04/2013 at 17:13
So long as you have all the lock rookies as well as GAJ then yes looks a pretty sweet move to me.

Fabian · 08/04/2013 at 17:26
Eagles have a very good draw heading into the bye rounds and should win most if not all those games comfortably, especially given key players are set to return. I reckon Kennedy will generate a nice load of cash =]

Mr_Consistent · 08/04/2013 at 20:03
Yeah I like both those trades but maybe look at downgrading watts to a rookie……?

SCaddict · 08/04/2013 at 17:42
If you have no other issues to deal with in your team then I'd unfortunately say probably yes. But the rest of your team would have to be close to perfect to consider such a move. Is there no other logical way to get Rocky into your team?
And there's no guarantees that Zorko won't go off against the Suns so don't rip me next week if you make the move and this happens. 🙂

Aaron · 08/04/2013 at 19:33
That’s a good point. I scored 2,330 this week pretty happy with my defense, midfield is doing ok I have Danger and Murphy with high b/e but ill stick by them at least till round six! The only other one who I’m not sure about is Roughy? Was thinking maybe trading him for Rocky if he’s going to sit in the forward line all year but then again he scored more than Zorko.

JJFYZZ · 09/04/2013 at 11:46
I'd get rid of Roughy for Zorko/Bartel

G unit · 08/04/2013 at 23:54
Had to chop Rough Orange, then went newman before KarnEEhAAz as thought there are better value backs then fronts. Dixon could be the huge breakout, Birchill is killing it, Suban less so then the rookies of port and goodes.

Fabian · 09/04/2013 at 08:59
i'm lucky I don't have rough. was considering him. Yeah dixon does look quite good. Will either bring in him, heath from port or shaw/waters. Already Have birch, gibbs, goddard, goodes and the other 2 port defenders with terlich.
Up forward it will either be a neade or dwyer or even rockliff.

johnny · 08/04/2013 at 16:40
newman*

Kev · 09/04/2013 at 11:33
danger to moloney is a step backwards in the long run, tough start for danger but will still be a have a higher average than moloney. Another to generate cash perhaps?

Marc · 08/04/2013 at 22:51
Never been a fan of Westoff, beasts against weak opponents, but disapears against better sides. Has looked better under Hinkley, but I still wouldn't feel comfortable bringing him in after 2 games against weak opponents.

SCaddict · 08/04/2013 at 23:28
Westhoff can downhill ski with the best of them so he's looked bloody brilliant the past few weeks beating up on the Dees and GWS hasn't he. But will he stand up when things aren't going so sweet against better opposition?
To be fair he's performed ok in Showdowns.
But I like Monfries more and is cheaper.

Cold_Willy · 09/04/2013 at 14:25
Westoff will struggle this week against the Adelaide defence. You'd think Talia would pick him up, with Rutten going to Schultz. I'm not convinced. Handy if you had him last week, but will burn you this week.
Monfries is an interesting one. I had Hayes last year and I see Monfries as a similar proposition – awkwardly priced, but with clear potential to get you solid scores week in, week out. I'd only pick him up if you are prepared to hold him for a while, as I can't see him making you a great deal of $$$.

SCaddict · 08/04/2013 at 17:44
Smart move!

The Old Dylan · 08/04/2013 at 22:26
I was thinking karnezis -> Dwyer but maybe same as you, and kerridge -> Dwyer? That way I’ll lose dead weight, make cash and increase point output… Solid move?

Kev · 09/04/2013 at 11:35
kerridge is close, wait for team news this week. If he isn't named, then go ahead with karny>dwyer

Nic · 08/04/2013 at 17:43
Hope you've got Ivan in the ruck, tapping to Mullett! Thought I was getting a unique with Dixon, but seems everyone's onto him.

Kev · 09/04/2013 at 11:38
Dixon/Mullett play two fantasy relevant games and the eyes light up based on their average. Not convinced at all that they can continue their purple patch. Be cautious

ColdWilly · 09/04/2013 at 15:10
Dixon looks like he's bulked up a bit this year and is a lot more confident. I think he's going to be decent this year. Against the Suns he will definitely have a crack at a big score. Worth the gamble, in my opinion. Mullett will definitely get you some capital for the following week. Do you think he'll maintain his form? I don't think he'll average over 100, but he will definitely average over 80.

BPP · 08/04/2013 at 17:18
Yes hold on to him he's a star

Stan · 10/04/2013 at 09:12
Melb don't have the taggers,Shuey wil go off along with Kennedy ,

Lachie · 08/04/2013 at 21:50
As mush as I love Cotchin, I don't see him scoring above the 130's. I'd look at Watson, JPK or even a sidewards trade to Fyfe.

Pete · 08/04/2013 at 18:03
Danger will get a tag every single week, completely stops Adelaide's clearance rate

Bridgebuff · 09/04/2013 at 11:11
I think that is only partially true. Danger can still shake tags with his strength and he got good support with sloane, thompson and now crouch. Not quite collingwood, but if opps concentrate too much on danger, those others will hurt them.

Jaso · 09/04/2013 at 14:34
With Danger gettin the regular tag think Thompson will flourish.
Dangermouse>>>Thomo ?

TREVOR · 09/04/2013 at 00:41
zorko is pretty much a rookie mate… only played 20 games i think everyone got a bit ahead of themselves with him

Benno · 08/04/2013 at 18:31
Personally I'm keeping him at R4, he's a very valued member of my team, comes in handy for the captain loophole 😉 but I guess it depends of the rest of your team and ruck situation if you want to trade him or not

Kev · 09/04/2013 at 11:42
Good move Benno, even with the injuries woes of last season, 24 trades was plenty for me. I figure I've got 4/5/6 corrective trades up my sleeve before normal buy low/sell high trading comes into effect

Kev · 09/04/2013 at 11:44
Waiting to see how leuy pulls up, remember he was sole ruck on the weekend. If longer returns he may steal a few points

Anonymous · 08/04/2013 at 19:12
i highly doubt it

Henry · 08/04/2013 at 22:03
No way. With Daisy back in this week and Fasolo, Ball and Young to come, his tenure is limited. What's more when Ball comes back, even just to the 2s, Collingwood would have to return either Dwyer or Frost to the rookie list and rookie-listed players are not allowed to be selected. However if you were asking should you trade Dwyer into your team, it would probably be a good move. After Round 3 his price should go up $80,000 or so. You could trade him out straight after he gets dropped.

Kev · 09/04/2013 at 11:46
Not to forgot beams as well. I just can't justify the trade for a bloke who will be sitting on the bench. Yes, the initial price rise is handy, but he won't make much more. If you had him from the start, congratulate yourself, well done. If not, lick your wounds, move on

Bill · 08/04/2013 at 19:28
i would say probably neade as emergency and either rowe or macaffer as subs. And depending on how your team looks at the moment i would trade out karnezis for JJK

Bridgebuff · 09/04/2013 at 11:39
I would wait until teams are announced. Will rowe play again? Would have dwyer ahead of macaffer if he is named. Had him on the bench in rd 1 because of green vest and he still outscored macaffer.

Kev · 09/04/2013 at 11:50
I liked the look of rowe in the wet, tough conditions for the big man. Bit of rubbish last term drove his score down, was on a respectable 71sc points at 3/4 time.
To answer your question; I'd bench macaffer and whoever isn't named. If they all are, neade.

Mark · 08/04/2013 at 19:43
wines HAS to be in

Henry · 08/04/2013 at 21:50
As mentioned below, I have just got rid of Zorko & Karnezis for Monfries & Dwyer. Cash generation is the name of the game in the early rounds, particularly before the leagues start. I also have Neade on the forward line. Both Dwyer and Neade will probably go up $80,000. Get rid of Karnezis and Lee. It will put you into a great trading position in a couple of weeks' time.

Bridgebuff · 09/04/2013 at 11:42
Totally agree. So maybe wines for rich as he seems your only underperforming mid.

Mr_Consistent · 08/04/2013 at 20:08
Which position so you have watts in?

Mr_Consistent · 08/04/2013 at 20:10
And also rich for moloney or Parker if you don't have them… Or maybe wines, crouch etc….

Liam · 09/04/2013 at 10:19
I have watts in forward which is killing me, already have dwyer neade but could go macaffer..
Yeah i have moloney already and as of now I have traded rich for parker
my other option is to downgrade watts to macaffer and then upgrade rich to kennedy?

Mr_Consistent · 08/04/2013 at 20:08
Yeah I think that's a good idea! All about generating cash in these early rounds…!

David · 08/04/2013 at 20:30
no sir!

Benin · 08/04/2013 at 20:36
Adelaide and gcfc next 2 weeks. Has to be good for $70k rise

Kev · 09/04/2013 at 11:52
Beats up the weak teams – downhill skier . Avoid

The Old Dylan · 08/04/2013 at 22:38
You need to have someone in the other position who has the same position eligibility, then simply press the sub button.
If you’re trading, click trade on the player you’re dropping, then in the trade menu an S should appear next to other players on your team that are eligible. For example, you want to get rid of zorko, who is in your forward, and you have bartel in your mid. Hit zorko’s trade button. An S should appear next to bartel, hit it to send bartel to the forward, allowing you to trade in a midfielder.

Bridgebuff · 09/04/2013 at 11:48
Great tip. Was wondering the same myself.

Mr_Consistent · 08/04/2013 at 20:42
As long as they're scoring well mate!

JJFYZZ · 08/04/2013 at 21:33
Just what I was going to say!!!

Noah · 08/04/2013 at 21:29
It's just a rumour. Don't get sucked in. I guarantee they wont play him even if he seems fit because they are only playing Melbourne.

SCaddict · 08/04/2013 at 22:27
Could you imagine the uproar from Eagle Nation if he played , the Coasters win by triple digits, and buggered his arm again.
Surely someone is having a laugh?

Bridgebuff · 09/04/2013 at 11:51
But it is still great news for the lecras faithfuls that he looks to be coming back sooner rather than later.

SCaddict · 09/04/2013 at 13:57
Yes that can't be denied.

Michael · 08/04/2013 at 21:11
I am also considering Mitchell for Wingard or Mullet (I live in America, so i'm not really able to see who is legit or not!)

G unit · 09/04/2013 at 00:03
2, and nothing wrong with binging in Dixon as investment though could lock in birchill for the year!

Michael · 09/04/2013 at 03:06
Agree, i'm just bringing in a Premium and being done with that position. Chose Hanley, purely for the extra cash saving. Thanks

Bridgebuff · 09/04/2013 at 13:33
Would keep k mitchell. Had the vest twice but did ok on the park. Would rather look who’s price will drop.

Kev · 09/04/2013 at 11:55
Option 2 – boyd returning will limit libba's scores. Future gun though. Yarran – Heppell.

Mr_Consistent · 08/04/2013 at 21:42
There is talk that Lecras could return for the Eagles match against the Dees but not entirely sure yet, keep your eye out for some more news.

The Old Dylan · 08/04/2013 at 22:41
Stevens. Kanye mitchell-san has copped the vest both games, trend could continue…

JJFYZZ · 09/04/2013 at 11:49
I agree, I'll keep Stevens until at least next wee. See if he cops the vest again and if so, take the extra cash and get Crouch before his price rises.

Michael · 09/04/2013 at 03:07
Keep Mitchell, he will get his chance soon, and has more upside both as far as $$$, and i think possessions

Kev · 09/04/2013 at 11:59
two premiums out for a rookie and mid pricer, wise? Heath certainly won't be a 480-500k defender like duff. Few easy games ahead for the lions, another option to get JJK other than zorko?

Kev · 09/04/2013 at 12:02
Watts easily, not just because of melbourne, but he looks totally out of form and lacks confidence. People being a bit harsh on karnezis I think, had a wonderful nab cup but has copped the subs vest twice – not his fault. I'm giving him one more week.
Get rid of rough, still 5 weeks of tough games for hawthorn and he isn't playing in the ruck where he is more dominant

Big Will · 09/04/2013 at 12:02
I have the same 3, Im trading out Watts and Karnezis.

Mr_Consistent · 09/04/2013 at 10:21
Why not bennell to Moloney, Parker, Libba. Rioli started well, but a tad to inconsistent for my liking

team changa · 09/04/2013 at 10:34
moloney is a good option to downgrade for cash but i doubt he will rise past 450k and cant see him in for the whole yr. with 420k in the kitty already i guess liba would be the best option of the 3 since parker played gws and gold coast without much pressure from either two. leaning towards riloi for the fwd line swing. but its damm close. hows your side looking>

Mr_Consistent · 09/04/2013 at 10:20
You have to get rockliff in your side

SCaddict · 09/04/2013 at 12:05
It's a tough one as both JJK and Rocky are virtually must haves. Don't suppose you have the spare cash to trade in both for Karny and Robbo?
JJK could easily kick 6 this weekend considering how badly the Dees are tracking.

Kane · 09/04/2013 at 21:15
Sc addict I can afford both but didn’t want to miss out on Dwyer and have a couple of trades lined up for next week. Ahhhh decision decisions….

SCaddict · 09/04/2013 at 12:17
As Lecca MAY come back in the next few weeks I think your priorities are to jump off Karny and probably Roughy. Can't see Roughy scoring at the levels he did last year with the Hawks big men structure as it stands. Karny has been a major disappointment for many coaches no doubt about it.
Reckon JJK should be one of the guys you bring in perhaps with Leuey if Roughy is in your ruck or have another RUCK/FWD swing.

Jono · 09/04/2013 at 14:10
Cheers. Yeah more I think about it I wanna get rid of Roughy for Luenburger but that would leave me with Cox and Rowe both in the forward line. :/
I'm thinking of holding Karnezis as his price drop might not be much and I am expecting him to improve still. So do I leave my RUCK/FWD players in the forward line with no swing set and then say drop Mitchell for Neadle and maybe look at picking up Crouch next week? Or go straight from Rough to Neadle, hold Mitchell for one more week and pick up Luenburger for Currie next week?

SCaddict · 09/04/2013 at 14:40
In that case how about Roughy to Neade, Karny to JJK and then bring in Leuey for Currie the following week? That looks like a pretty good plan to me and will net you over $200K and have your swing set working properly.
If I could get off Karny and had a logical replacement like JJK I would. But moving on Roughy and Rich I rate as higher priorities for me.

Big Will · 09/04/2013 at 12:00
Probably trade Tex and Roughie.
Try to get in…. all of those except Westhoff.

Hareball · 09/04/2013 at 20:17
out roughie and walker
in – Dwyer!!!! , JJ kennedy or Parker

SCaddict · 09/04/2013 at 23:55
Yes Tex and Roughy should be given the chop in my view. JJK is close to a must have I reckon.
Although his scores will fluctuate as a key forward he will generate you a boat load of cash plus he has the Deeplorables to beat up on this weekend.
Dwyer is probably the other to bring in if he's named in the final 22 this Sunday so you will need to monitor final teams this Friday arvo as he's likely to be named on the extended bench when the teams first come out on Thursday night.

SCaddict · 09/04/2013 at 23:58
Yes nice trades although as per my post above you need to ensure Dwyer is named in the final 22 for this Sunday's game before finalising that trade.
If and when he loses his spot it could be a while before he gets back in with all the Pies depth.

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I haven't had any problems myself but it sounds like plenty have based on the reviews at the App store.

Joshau · 09/04/2013 at 11:50
I take your point when talking about players like Dangerfield and Zorko, but most coaches need to make a correction or two, and we've got 30 trades – neglect them to your peril. For example, if you took a punt on Watts (as many of us did) you'd be crazy not to ditch him.

Big Will · 09/04/2013 at 11:59
this is the one round where its an absolute must to make two trades, unless you have the PERFECT team, which no one does. If you hold on someone like Watts you're gonna be stuck with another 50 and he'll be worth 50k less next week.

Damo · 09/04/2013 at 12:01
Don't agree with this, especially now that we have 30 trades. Sure, hang on to your premiums (I'll be keeping zorko) but we all took a few speculative punts didn't we? One of mine was Zac Smith who has a BE of 112 this week – he has as much hope of getting that this week as Melbourne has of beating West Coast. Particularly for any mid pricers you have selected you need to be checking the BE's and making an honest assessment of how they are going. For those who look like continuing to struggle, and who have high BE's, not taking the opportunity to get rid of them now is giving money away, and probably points also. Yes you can overtrade, but you can undertrade too. My attitude is do 2 correctives this week to make my side as good as it can be for now, and then sit tight for 4/5 weeks while those cash cows go moo.

SCaddict · 09/04/2013 at 12:24
You're right there's no need to trade for the sake of it but most coaches can significantly improve their team but eliminating some dead wood whilst at the same time picking up some early season bolters.
So reckon the vast majority of coaches will be utilising at least 1 if not 2 trades this week before all the prices change and opportunities may have been missed for good.

Dazman · 09/04/2013 at 12:38
I have shuey, sticking with him for now, if he stays around the 100 avg mark ill probably keep him.

Connor · 09/04/2013 at 13:46
Okay thinking the same thing with him having Melbourne this week
Thanks for that

Tom · 09/04/2013 at 14:25
Trade danger

EPR · 09/04/2013 at 14:11
IMO you don't need to worry about the bye just yet. Chances are your team will look very different come round 10 because of cashed in cows anyway.

Bridgebuff · 09/04/2013 at 14:21
In regards to byes you need to consider your whole team. If you have one fwd each from crows, pies, bombers, giants, gc and carlton you have a problem (all have rd 13 bye), while if you have 2x port (rd 11 bye), 3x eagles (rd 12 bye), 3x pies (rd 13 bye)you are in good shape

Matt · 09/04/2013 at 14:45
My understanding of the byes this year was that from your 30 players your best 22, no matter the position, counted for the three bye rounds???

SCaddict · 09/04/2013 at 14:36
The byes are almost in the too hard basket and really shouldn't factor into your decision making much at all. You'll probably have a gazillion trades between now and Rd 11 so your will team will likely look very different between now and then anyway.
Just choose the best value players you can.

Tom · 09/04/2013 at 14:24
$2,000,000 is about par

Mr_Consistent · 09/04/2013 at 19:57
I think out of those 3 players you have chosen the correct ones to be getting out of your side and I agree with the trades as both Leunberger and Josh Kennedy will be increasing dramatically come round 3 & 4 respectively… Good work!

Ram-Rod · 10/04/2013 at 02:43
Why would u get rid of Jack Steven? U made a good decision picking him as a mid-pricer, hes scoring well and ur just gonna give him the flick? He will average more than Wingard and will probably end up averaging 100 per game over the season

Tom · 09/04/2013 at 14:23
Don't chase scores mate, that's gonna bite you in a couple of rounds

Guy · 09/04/2013 at 14:39
Who do you think would be 2 good players to trade in for Watts and Bennell then? I have $800,000 to trade with on DT

SCaddict · 09/04/2013 at 14:55
Trade downs for non performing premiums are generally the best way to go as the lads said in this week's podcast.
Without seeing your team there are so many good rookies to get into your midfield and defence that you're liking missing at least one in both lines.
This will free up around $600K to allow you to start upgrading to performing premiums and elites in the coming weeks greatly improving your team.
It's too early to know whether Dixon and Libba are flash in the pans or whether they will continue producing such high output.

Guy · 09/04/2013 at 14:59
How does Watts for Pittard
and Bennell for Parker sound?

SCaddict · 09/04/2013 at 15:22
Excellent trades Guy!
I'll be astonished if you end up regretting these moves.

Guy · 09/04/2013 at 15:39
Thanks a heap SCaddict!

Luke · 09/04/2013 at 15:28
Already have Neade and Macaffer as my forward bench options, and have Wines, O'Meara, Crouch, Viney and K.Stevens in the midfield

Jimbooo · 09/04/2013 at 21:55
I'm surprised to hear people looking to trade up to libba?

SCaddict · 09/04/2013 at 15:17
It's no contest in my mind, JJK by a mile and then some.
Reckon Varcoe is limited to a ceiling of $350-$400K and JJK about $450-$500K.
Varcoe has actually played well and had a big influence on the Cats two wins. But he's not much of a Supercoach scorer and never has been if you go back and have a look at his previous season averages.
I expect JJK to go off against the Dees this weekend and will easily jump up by over $50K in value next week so it's a good time to get on him if the rest of your team looks ok.

EPR · 09/04/2013 at 15:17
The only possible one i can see is Deledio to Ablett and make him your captain if you have the cash for it.

EPR · 09/04/2013 at 15:18
Otherwise you just have to back the likes of Zorko, Atley and Varcoe, who have been producing below par scores, to lift for you.

Mr_Consistent · 09/04/2013 at 15:28
Don't rely on your projections to influence how you trade, I was projected to score around 1600 last week, yet I got 2299 so not the most reliable thing.
How much money do you have? Because you could try and upgrade Rowe to Leunberger

Joshau · 09/04/2013 at 15:30
LeCras is still an outside chance to play this week, meaning you'd have the potential to turn Karnezis into Dwyer, then Varcoe into Josh J Kennedy and go for a captain loophole to get up on your opp. I wouldn't be doing anything crazy just to chase a single win…it's a long season!

SCaddict · 09/04/2013 at 15:44
There really isn't a big move you have available that will likely make much of a difference this round. So I would just slowly improve your team by trading out Karny for Dwyer assuming he plays and pocketing the $170K.
It's a marathon rather than a sprint so you will just have to hope lady luck shines on you this weekend and that a couple of your PODs stand tall.
Also don't forget to make either Fyfe, Goddard or Heppell your VC to take advantage of the captain's loophole. Unfortunately with North playing early and Daw your only likely non playing guy that's the best you've got unless someone like K.Mitchell or Macaffer is dropped which will greatly increase your options.

Hareball · 09/04/2013 at 19:45
maybe downgrade atley then upgrade deledio or someone to ablett … or upgrade a ruck to leuy

CHRIS · 10/04/2013 at 02:05
Sell Varcoe or Karnezis, move Rowe forward and buy Leuenberger.

Mr_Consistent · 09/04/2013 at 15:23
Round 3: Collingwood
Round 4: Fremantle (Ryan Crowley)
Round 5: North Melbourne
Round 6: Adelaide
Round 7: Sydney
Very good consistent player, can only see him doing bad against Fremantle, tough draw ahead though…

Mr_Consistent · 09/04/2013 at 15:25
Leunberger in for Jamar looks good
However not sure about the Westhoff trade, two HUGE scores against weak opposition. Had him last year… Very inconsistent. But… Big risk, Big reward!

Emily · 09/04/2013 at 15:30
Any suggestions on who to bring in for Watts then?

Mr_Consistent · 09/04/2013 at 15:33
Kennedy? If you don't have him, if you have enough try and upgrade him to rockliff, or for some cash, downgrade to Neade/Macaffer/Dwyer

SCaddict · 09/04/2013 at 16:13
Would recommend a trade down of Watts to either JJK (if you don't have him) or someone like Neade, Macaffer or Dwyer.
Have you got all the lock rookie mids and defenders such as Goodes, Pittard, Stevenson, Heath, Viney, O'Meara, Wines as that should be your other trading priority if not?
You can always postpone the Jaymar to Leuey trade another round as Leuey's price won't increase for another week and Jaymar will probably score not too far short of his fairly low BE so will have a minimal price drop.

Mr_Consistent · 09/04/2013 at 15:37
Long term I'd say Mitchell, but this week I'd say swallow, playing Sydney who are a very rough side. Lots of ball ups and contested situations, I expect swallow to get a heap of tackles and clearances, hope I am right!!!

Tom · 09/04/2013 at 15:40
Mate i hope you're right too! A BIG trade depends on your very opinion. What do you think both of them will get? Help me out here mate

Mr_Consistent · 09/04/2013 at 15:44
Haha not sure if you should be relying on a sole opinion mate, but I reckon Mitchell 115 and swallow 130. See if you can get some feedback from others before you make up your mind. 🙂

Tom · 09/04/2013 at 15:46
Well would love some others to make some input into this!! What does everyone else think?

SCaddict · 09/04/2013 at 16:22
It's like choosing between a Ferrari or a Lamborghini mate. Both will be elite performers all season I reckon.
I'd take Sammy Mitchell only because his price is set to explode with a tiny BE of 71 for him so it may be a long time before you can pick him up below $600K again.

Mr_Consistent · 09/04/2013 at 16:24
Well that's what I was thinking but he is only asking for who's going to score the most this week, Who do you think SCaddict?

SCaddict · 09/04/2013 at 16:28
Impossible to guess in just one game. Sammy scored 139 the last time he played the Pies and Swallow registered 102 last time he played the Swans.
That said history doesn't mean too much in a single game of Supercoach.
When trading in Elites you need to think about their likely performance all season and I'd give Sammy the slightest of preferences but either would be fantastic additions to anyone's team.
Maybe as a Swannies supporter I'm only hoping/praying Swallow doesn't go off this weekend ha ha!

Mr_Consistent · 09/04/2013 at 16:30
Haha, good answer mate!

Tom · 09/04/2013 at 16:48
Whatever your name is SCaddict, is it worth trading Danger for Mitchell? The rest of my team is pretty well set

Mr_Consistent · 09/04/2013 at 16:55
Don't like it mate, sideways trade… dangerfield's only had one bad game and I think he has a higher ceiling than Mitchell in terms of scoring potential

Tom · 09/04/2013 at 17:05
It'll take a couple of weeks for his break even to even out though, while mitchell's price will skyrocket. I don't see Dangerfield getting a big score this week

Mr_Consistent · 09/04/2013 at 17:08
Not that means much but Josh Jenkins
( dangerfields teammate) just said he reckons dangerfield going to get B.O.G this week.

Tom · 09/04/2013 at 17:59
B.O.G doesn't mean best supercoach score.

Mr_Consistent · 09/04/2013 at 19:11
Mate if you can give me a player that's got the three votes and scored under 100 supercoach points I might agree with you.

SCaddict · 09/04/2013 at 19:04
I can understand your temptation but I'd say probably stick thick with Paddy.
There's no guarantee Mitchell with outscore him this week and you shouldn't generally go chasing scores or else you'll find you're often 1 step behind and just burning precious trades.
He'd be a nice upgrade from a poor performing mid pricer or regular premium but you shouldn't bring him in at the expense of another elite.

Tom · 09/04/2013 at 19:09
Alright well thanks guys 🙂 Saved me from burning a trade there! Really hope that Danger can rip up a massive score this week!

Mr_Consistent · 09/04/2013 at 16:12
KEEP, KEEP, KEEP!!!

Harley · 09/04/2013 at 20:50
Thanks

Rocksta · 09/04/2013 at 21:49
Pendles

Harley · 10/04/2013 at 19:31
Why

Mr_Consistent · 09/04/2013 at 16:26
Then trade Bennell and get in young Ollie

Mr_Consistent · 09/04/2013 at 16:59
Do you have rockliff?

Mr_Consistent · 09/04/2013 at 17:13
Then mate don't trade in Bartel in it has to be roughie for Rockliff, probably going to finish as one of the best forwards this year

Mr_Consistent · 09/04/2013 at 17:18
Yeah if you have any other trades to make I suggest you wait on the roughie to Luey trade, you won't lose to much cash because Leunberger goes up in Round 4, I like both the trades

Joshau · 09/04/2013 at 17:50
But Roughie will drop minimum 35k at the conclusion of round 3.
If you're trying to line your pockets, surely that deserves consideration to trade to Leuenberger before Roughie drops? I'm in the same boat, and am treating it more as a correction trade…I would have started with Leuey if he'd been named round 1.

Mr_Consistent · 09/04/2013 at 18:05
If Roughhead scores 100 or over he will only drop around 30k and it also gives Leunberger one more week to prove himself and saves you a trade that can be used somewhere else this week

Rocksta · 09/04/2013 at 21:48
Great trading.
You will generate over 200k and not lose anything in overall weekly scoring ( probably gain).

Ben · 09/04/2013 at 17:56
and i have rockliff already

Mr_Consistent · 09/04/2013 at 18:01
I think it is worth trading him to a player of lesser value for some cash generation, do you have Kennedy? Or maybe even down to a rookie like Neade/Dwyer/Macaffer

Ben · 09/04/2013 at 20:27
i'm trading Karnezis to Kennedy
and i've got all of those rookies

Mr_Consistent · 09/04/2013 at 20:46
Well then up to you mate, look for another premium

Rocksta · 09/04/2013 at 21:42
Tex is a great Footballer but I didnt pick him in my side simply because without Tippet I think he will get double teamed a lot. Jenkins played well at the weekend but will never demand the number one defender. I dont like sideways trades but you may have to bite the bullet on this one

Mr_Consistent · 09/04/2013 at 18:00
Good trades mate

Terry · 09/04/2013 at 18:36
Cheers!
Overall 279, 1130 last week.
hoping to keep pushing up the ranks

Deanbartel · 10/04/2013 at 15:20
I dunno about Stevens….He's averaging 30 points a quarter (59 from half R1, 30 from a quarter in R2). I think he has greater scoring potential than Crouch if he plays full games. I do have Crouch in my team and not Stevens though

Harley · 10/04/2013 at 19:33
Keep blicavs

Mr_Consistent · 09/04/2013 at 20:03
I think Karnezis to crouch sounds great and should generate some cash like you said…. Smart trade!

Mr_Consistent · 09/04/2013 at 19:59
Both are sideways trades but I think you need rockliff in your side. I think you should look at downgrading Zorko to maybe Kennedy (if you don't have him) or maybe even a rookie ( Neade, Dwyer or Macaffer)

Com · 09/04/2013 at 21:54
Have Kennedy and those three fwd rookies
The reason I’m thinking about this is to upgrade blicavs to leuy next week with the extra cash I get from bringing in rocky and westy

Rocksta · 09/04/2013 at 21:30
Surprising as I got 2435 and ranked 261. Ive got Zorko and will stick with him for the immediate future. I must however say that he is a risk at that price as we all seem to have forgotten that he hasn't even played 20 Senior Games of AFL footy. Hes either going to get better or be the biggest burn man of the season.

Harley · 10/04/2013 at 19:34
Keep zorko get rocklift

Cold Ass Honky · 09/04/2013 at 22:15
Or Barlow or Fyfe

Cold Ass Honky · 09/04/2013 at 22:17
Or even Birchall. Help please haha

Cold Ass Honky · 09/04/2013 at 22:20
Or finally, Selwood. God, im going mad.

Mr_Consistent · 09/04/2013 at 22:38
I reckon danger to Moloney or fyfe and then upgrade varcoe/Karnezis to another premium forward you like the look of.

Mr_Consistent · 09/04/2013 at 22:35
Yeah 4 on field rookies is a bit too much. Bennell to Moloney is a good trade as Moloney will be a consistent 90+ player and could be a good player to look at upgrading come round 5-6.

Charlie · 10/04/2013 at 08:50
I also could trade roughead to leuy this week, just not sure if leuy will continually score well?

Mr_Consistent · 10/04/2013 at 08:58
Well that's what I am doing I have Roughhead too, I am just waiting the extra week on him and by doing so will only lose about 30k when roughhead's price goes down, I also save a trade that can be used somewhere else this week and can be more sure that Leunberger Is a good choice.

Charlie · 10/04/2013 at 09:19
Thanks for that! I thought about trading out roughead for Neade and then Bannell up to Watson thinking that Watson will score big this week! Then trade in luey next week for whoever i decide. But I’m not sure if that’s a waste of money considering Maloney will go up in price?

Mr_Consistent · 10/04/2013 at 09:28
Well I guess if you are trading Roughhead for Neade you should be sitting on a bit of cash and the trade of bennell to Watson is only a upgrade of 130k, however Jumping on Moloney now means that you could trade him for a much better premium, when they are about the same price. E.g dangerfield in for Moloney
It's your decision

Charlie · 10/04/2013 at 09:44
Decisions decisions.. But thanks heaps for that! I think I have figured out what I’m going to do now!

The Old Dylan · 10/04/2013 at 12:32
Get a premium in if you can!

Mr_Consistent · 10/04/2013 at 08:56
It's good, I reckon Watson will score huge again this week.

Liam · 10/04/2013 at 09:24
Ryan Crowley to Jobe don't you reckon? Shouldn't be as dominant as he has in recent weeks

Mr_Consistent · 10/04/2013 at 09:57
Watson can't be tagged, Crowley likely to go to an outside player like Heppell, Stanton, Goddard or even Howlett.

Jaso · 10/04/2013 at 14:47
CreepyCrowley has kept Jobe to 20,20,21 disposals in the past three encounters.
Just sayin.

Mr_Consistent · 10/04/2013 at 09:24
Haha no laughing but I put watts in at the start of the season…..
Watts to Heath
Karnezis to Dwyer
However I am happy to reverse the trade on Karnezis if he isn't named sub, but then again will I know in time to make the trade???

team changa · 10/04/2013 at 10:38
haha its aight i was nearly fooled by watts too, looked very attractive with the swing. im holding of on karnezis too, will deff have time to know since pies play sunday will know by 5pm saturday if he is sub or not. i guess its a blessing with wattscos you HAVE to trade. its worse when you are 50/50 bennel could be a bad trade only time will tell lol.

Mr_Consistent · 10/04/2013 at 14:04
IN- Dwyer, OUT- Karnezis is good
However trading out Duffield for Hanley is a bad idea, it is a sideways trade and Duffield hasn't even been doing badly. Has a BreakEven of 117 and if he doesn't get that score is likely to only drop around 15k… I'd keep him, but it's your team and the decision is yours…

SC Legend. · 10/04/2013 at 10:52
I can rather do Leunberger in this week for Blicavs or J.J Kennedy in this week for Karneiz.. Not sure which one has more value!?

The Old Dylan · 10/04/2013 at 12:40
Blicavs = good ruck bench coverage? Unless he is your R2…
Luey might be a better prospect next week, in case he spuds it up this week? (not likely against the suns though)

Mr_Consistent · 10/04/2013 at 14:08
Because the last thing people want is to be sitting on a 535k forward with a BreakEven of 183 and an average of 65.

Mr_Consistent · 10/04/2013 at 15:01
Wait on roughy and trade him for Leuy next week, tex for JJK and Karnezis for Dwyer ( if Karnezis is named sub)

Matt · 10/04/2013 at 15:16
Thanks mate, but are you sure about trading tex, cause surely he will pick up. And is it worth doing the roughy to leuy trade this week to beat the price drop?

Mr_Consistent · 10/04/2013 at 15:19
You will only be losing about 25k because only roughies price changes, it's your decision but I'd wait on Leunberger one more week.

Mr_Consistent · 10/04/2013 at 15:03
Ryder for JJK Is good, Spangher for Dwyer is good, maybe varcoe for Dwyer???

Jeffry · 10/04/2013 at 16:13
Thanks mate, main reason I initially though to get rid of Spangher instead of Varco was because Spangher aint getting games, whereas at least Varcoe is playing.
But with Varcoe's bad scores I may as well get rid of him now before his price drops, hey ! Also gives me a stack more cash in the kitty too.
Cheers for the comment, appreciated 🙂

Mr_Consistent · 10/04/2013 at 16:16
No worries Jeffrey. 🙂

Mr_Consistent · 10/04/2013 at 15:23
If Zorko is one of your main under performers I think that is a great trade. You gain nearly 250k and you are trading in an in form player who plays Melbourne next week, Kennedy is expected to rise by about 60k after next week too!!!

Juggernaut · 10/04/2013 at 15:31
Thats what I have been thinking … I also traded out N, Vlastuin for Heath Campbell, he was sitting on my bench and not playing, campbell is playing and should go up about 70k.
I didnt ponder about changing Dangers up to Watson … but I think thats a bad move …
Thanks for the reply btw!

Juggernaut · 10/04/2013 at 15:32
I DID ponder lol

Mr_Consistent · 10/04/2013 at 15:43
Yeah danger for Watson wouldn't of been the best move, Vlaustin to Heath is a good trade.

Juggernaut · 10/04/2013 at 15:45
Cheers for your help mate

Mr_Consistent · 10/04/2013 at 15:50
No worries mate, best of luck for the weekend

Mr_Consistent · 10/04/2013 at 16:18
I think Liberatore Is the better pick, he will play well no matter who the opposition is because he gets plenty of tackles, clearances and contested ball. Unlike Howlett who could easily lose his current form when he plays some tougher opposition.

Mr_Consistent · 10/04/2013 at 16:37
Like flipping a coin mate, leaning towards varcoe though… Who were you thinking?

Mr_Consistent · 10/04/2013 at 18:36
Rounds 5,6,7,8,9 and 10 are when you start look to trade in your cash cows for new rookies in my opinion.

Mr_Consistent · 10/04/2013 at 18:40
Oh my…. PITTARD, PITTARD AND PITTARD!!! He is a must have rookie defender, averaging about 92 points and is set to jump by over 50k after next round, plus it gives you some cash to work with for next round.

Trent · 10/04/2013 at 19:10
Great!
Thanks Mate.

Jag · 10/04/2013 at 21:33
Or trade Roughead Out, using Ryders DPP, move him into the Forward Line and then Trade in Leuenberger?