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2013 Supercoach rookie cheat sheet version 4.0

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Supercoach Rookie Cheat Sheet v4

Not long to go now folks – and it is critical that we get a good idea of which rookies will play some solid game time early in the season. Higgo, Crouching, Mick, Mr Crimmins, Vince and I met this afternoon and have come up with the latest revision of the famous Jock Reynolds Fantasy Footy Community rookie cheat sheet:

Click here for the Supercoach rookie cheat sheet v4.0

The big issue this year is forward line rookies. Sparse as bloody hens teeth. Some are putting some consideration into lengthening out their forward lines with more mid priced options but I deplore to you community – don’t go too heavy on mid pricers!

Now this should download what they call a P D F document. It is an electronic version of a document that you might have otherwise printed off on your printing devices. If you have trouble on your computers Warren says to โ€œtry right clicking and doing a save target as to try and get it onto your computerโ€.

What are your thoughts folks?

Jock

 


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@Dashism

Nice stuff Jock. Bit off topic, but what are you're thoughts on how Lake's addition to the Hawks backline will affect Birchall's output this season?

@Dashism

your*

wish there was way to edit these comments.

Eagle

lol
It seems there is bu I dont know how???

Eagle

Ask SCaddict he knows how to edit posts it seems

SCaddict

Yeah if you sign in to Jock Reynolds with an intensedebate account you can edit your posts and also carry forward a reputation score.

http://www.intensedebate.com/

Kev

To answer your question, I don't think it will have much on an impact. Lake/Gibson will be FB/CHB with Birch rebounding like he always does

@Dashism

Thanks for your thoughts Kev. I have a feeling Birch will flourish playing off Lake as oppose to some of the other FB's the Hawks have sent out the last few seasons.

Bomber Stef

I am backing Birch to get more of the pill and provide more run … surely lake will take fwd no.1 which moves Brich down the order as to which fwd he takes.

lol

Nice stuff jock but im not sure on sam rowe and brent macaffer could help me on these cheers

Kev

Caff is safe as houses, as the cheat sheet shows he is the best fwd rookie option right now.

Rowe will be thereabouts, named on Friday in a team with Kruze and Hampson. Final round of the NAB cup is usually a good indicator of the coaches idea of his best 24-25 or so players, so make sure you have a look at the teams this week. Won't play every week, but as a fwd/ruck swing he is a good option

SCaddict

One rookie mid who couldn't fit into the cheat sheet but I'm watching closely is Hill of the Hawks. An eye catching performance on the weekend against decent opposition.

With a few Hawks departures in the offseason and injuries to Suckling, Whitecross and Hodgey he may get a look in early as the Hawks badly need some pace across the middle I reckon.

If he's named in Rd 1 I'll find a place for him in my team.

Ben

Yep, I have currently given him a spot in my midfield. I'm hoping he plays round 1 and I expect him to with the injury to Suckling and loss of Young. I can see him getting a regular game this season, and I think he will maintain a decent average.

SCaddict

He's an exciting prospect alright. Could prove to be the missing ingredient the Hawks need to go one better this season.

@PeterHiggo

My calculations have Ollie Wines in greenish lock mode Jock. While he is at somewhat of a rookie premium price ($169,500), he has shown enough to me to give great confidence that he will smash he 30ish break even. At a similar price, not so sure about Vlastuin.

SCaddict

Tend to agree with you Higgo. Still favour him over Viney myself for the extra $60K even if I'm in the minority there. I know it's early but he's an impressive contested ball player who should perform nicely in Supercoach.

dools

Top comment SC he has been on me radar for 5 weeks I Rate the fella and as you say Hawks are in a wee bit of injury strife

SCaddict

Brodie from The Age is predicting him in the Hawks best 22 but no doubt his job security isn't as good as the other mid rookies on the cheat sheet.

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/list-analys

Still if he is able to cement a spot I reckon he's capable of delivering very decent scores.

Luttski

My team is set well i hope any feedback would be great cheers.
B:Gibbs, Birchall, Watts
HB: Heppell, Armstrong, Vlaustin
Bench: Stevenson, Terlich
C: Swan, Watson, Murphy, Fyfe, Moloney, K.Mitchell, Crouch
Bench: Viney, O'Meara
R: Mumford, Currie
Bench: Witts, Rowe
F: Cyril, Rockliff, Martin,
F: Cloke, LeCras, Varcoe
Bench: Kerridge, Macaffer

Cheers

Luttski

Also i have 5 spots available in my league: 411711

moncon

I think I'm right in saying that you've got no swing from MID to FWD (you have 3 in the other direction). Maybe that's not a problem for you.

Also no FWD Ruck swing set – cf Higgo all pre-season.

Luttski

The Fwd line was where i was most confident haha

Bomber Stef

Better options than Kerridge as a fwd.

Have a look at Jock's rookie cheat sheet.

moncon

Couple of Suns I'd like to know more about, if anyone can help, first Gorringe (there's your ruck for you Jock), and secondly Osborne in the backs – is he likely to play?

Simmo

this is my team really unsure on the rookies,
and constantly changing my big gun players not sure which ones are realy worth the money need advice!!.

DEF: goddard, Gibbs, Duffield, Heppel, B.goodes, Docherty
Emrg: Stevenson, telrich

MID: Ablett, Watson, Kennedy, Dangerfield, Sidebottom, K.Mitchell, Crouch, Omera
Emrg: Viney, Colquhoun.

RUC: Jacobs, Currie
Emrg: Rowe, Witts

FWD:Cox, Walker, Zorko, Rockcliff, Varcoe, Mcaffer
Emrg: Kerridge, Neade.

Kev

Pretty good team Simmo, Sidey is a nice POD. Rookies are pretty bang on for me.

Slight question on Currie as R2, no doubt he is a talent, but honestly, he is not going to banish Goldy to the magoos, wait to see if he is named round 1. It's a gamble, but you've got the fwd/ruck swing open if it backfires.

Good luck!

JustSayin

good team mate, pretty spot on and follows alot better gun rookie guild line then i've seen some other teams put out!

Eagle

Getting a bit silly now with questions that no one can answer!
This is my team and I have done absolutely no research and read nothing
and please tell me what to do,. as I have NO FFFG IEEAR??
BOOOORIING.

SCaddict

By the way for those who have Fox Footy and may not know the Supercoach Show returns next week for a special team selection series from Monday to Thursday at 6pm eastern. Each day will cover a different line starting with the problematic forward line on Monday.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/afl/supercoach-news/t

Will be curious to see how their recommendations differ from the group thinking here. Johno is the new host.

Rbat

Thank you for that!

Mikes mike

How about

Mikey mike

How about for a slightly left field rookie ruck selection Brisbane's Sam Michael? With Luey on hold at the Lions for a while and Longer just being a second year player he might sneak in and get a few games, more than maybe a Witt or Rowe.
He will be on show Friday night in the nab cup grand final.

Kev

He's been omitted actually, also still on rookie list. So yeah, avoid that one

Phil

Brisbane still yet to release final team list with one place vacant for a rookie and say that they're decision will rely on the need of the team. So if Michael is elevated does the mean Brisbane are worried about Luey, could be a good indication of where he's at, I'm already scared off him. So wait until Brisbane name the player being elevated which I think they must do before the season begins or else they lose it.

Luke

Will currie be a lock for R2?

@pagedowner

Dean Terlich isn't a midfielder. DEF only.

I think that while not at the moment Max Gawn from Melbourne might be one of those later season ruck downgrade options if he can get his body right. Melbourne want to get game time into him and he's had a horrid run of injury. There's not much quality in the rookie rucks this year, it'll take injuries to see who gets gametime at a lot of clubs.

Kane Mitchell has to get upgraded still – and he absolutely butchers the ball when he manages to get hold of it. I'd be a bit iffy on him, especially at his awkward price.

In terms of forwards, Ben Kennedy from Collingwood is another one to keep an eye out for. Destroyed it at u/18's last year and manages to get a TON of the pill. Will be a sub a lot when he plays, but if you're desperate for a cheapie downgrade earlyish in the season, he's one to look at.

Mac

How is $126,200 an awkward price for a rookie? (Kane Mitchell that is)

SCaddict

Yeah I reckon you're missing an opportunity if you don't have in your team. True his disposal efficiency has been kind of ordinary in the NAB Cup but expect that to improve after he's played a few more games and adjusted to the speed and intensity of the AFL game over the WAFL.

Smittzzy

If he can get clearances and some kicks hes going to make you money mate

Micko

Laidler or siposs? Jock what’s your opinion?
Please help!!

Micko

Sorry, I was meant to say Varcoe or Siposs??

Kev

If you're sold on one of the those, varcoe. Sippo may take a while to adjust to his new role

Micko

What would you suggest instead?

Kev

Karnezis will keep his midfield role season proper, another Lion, Bewick, could be a bolter. Josh Kennedy has a lot of money to make, as does Le Cras.

Smittzzy

Wouldn't touch Lecras, average NAB cup looks tender

Deanbartel

Isn't B.Goodes still rookie listed ?

theazzyg

How many games can he play then? as he is listed on the dogs website as a rookie.

Kev

He sure is Dean. Not 100% on this, but I think players can be elevated to the senior list on the 19th March.

Sure Jock will be all over the elevations anyway

Phil

Pretty sure Bulldogs have one more spot for rookie elevation before the beginning of the season.

Smithy

Haney and hepplle or mundy and hepplle?

Kev

mundy + hepp

Smithy

*hanley

Jay

Going a guns and rookies method with a couple of guys I really like at mid price.
Def
Goddard, Gibbs, hartlett, heppell, vlastuin, Terlich (goodes, Stevenson)
Mid
Pendles, dangerfield, shuey, mundy, moloney, koby Stevens, wines, crouch (k Mitchell and o’meara)
Ruck
Zac smith, leuenberger (currie, Rowe)
Fwd
Coz, zorko, Martin, rockliff, roughed, Byrnes (kerridge (changeable), macaffer)

I hav 36,500 leftover. Went for a big fwd lint because of so many cash makers in def and mid. Love to get some opinions. I would like a few more PODs as well but I don’t know who to squeeze out.

Thanks
Jay

Smittzzy

I'd get another ultra prem mid like Pendles or Ablett, your midfield is pretty skinny mate and thats where the points are.

Micko

Whats your thoughts on Rookie KENNEDY (mid/fwd) from Coll?

Looks like he had a ripper game in NAB Round 3 against Brisbane going off his statsโ€ฆ

How’s he coated to Dwyer and Mcaffer?

Trying to choose rookie forward.. I also have Jed Lamb (syd). Confused here.. Suggestions welcome..

Kev

Love the bloke, dominated the carnival. Pies have two open spots on their list – one of which will go to hudson (you'd think). Dywer, Frost, and Mooney (all rookies) were named today to face the cats tomorrow. You'd think one of those 3 are front runners for the extra spot on the list.

Micko

That mean you think Kennedy won’t be a contendor at this stage?

Kev

I'd be waiting to see if he is upgraded before jumping on. No point having a guy on the rookie list who won't play

Deanbartel

For Goodes to be elevated, a player has to be put on the long term injury list afaik

Josh

Not correct. The Bulldogs have 37 on their list, and haven't yet replaced Justin Sherman (who was delisted in one of the late windows last year).

Goodes (or another Dogs rookie) can be elevated whenever…

Phil

Read in a Bulldogs forum they have one less senior on the list so they can elevate whenever they want.

Smittzzy

Also Stringer is indefinite, may be able to get somewhere there.

Dee

Quick one guys…. Zorko or Rockliffe and Deledio or Cotchin, which respectively will have more impact in supercoach this year?! Opinions appreciated…. Thanks!

JJFyzz

Zorko and Cotchin for mine

Kano

Rockliffe will play more midfield than Zorko. Cotch and Delids, flip a coin

Smittzzy

Rocliffe and Deledio

Rocky will get way more midfield time, and Cotchin will get that hard tag where as Deledio can roam freely.

JustSayin

Cotch is untaggable, so they might let the tag slip to Did's but i have dids as a POD. back to the point though, do anything you can to get Rock and Zork!!

Josh

Jock old mate – what are your thoughts on Elliot Kavanagh. Pretty big wraps on him as a junior, and would have gone top 5 int 2011 draft had it not been for hammy injury.

His DT scores looked alright in the Nab Cup:

80 vs GWS
38 vs Richmond (green vest)
21 vs Collingwood (short games)

I play SC – worth a crack as a mid rookie?

SCaddict

Hi Josh. Although a possibility to get named for Rd 1 against the Crows it's unlikely I would've thought. Reckon Kommer is the bigger chance actually. Zaharakis is still to come back in of course and Hurls should play too despite the moon boot this week.

You're probably better off picking any of the mid rookies off Jock's sheet as they all have much higher job security and you want your rookies generating cash immediately and without interruptions.

Most coaches will probably only consider bringing him after he's played 2 games and is on the bubble for the third whenever that is as there are an abundance of other quality mid rookies to initially choose from for Rd 1.

simmo3

Hey guys thoughts on this possible side

Goddard Gibbs heppell vlatsuin goodes Stevenson (docherty terlich)

Ablett swan Kennedy shuey moloney wines crouch o’meara (Mitchell viney)

Jacobs currie (witts rowe)

Franklin cox roughead zorko rockliff varcoe (maccaffer neade)

Rookies depending on rnd 1 selection and $29000 in the bank. Thanks guys

JJFyzz

Hey Simmo,

Great team. Like the amount of Rookies on the ground in back and Mids with a bit of stacking in the forwards with mids and rucks.

Personally I'm not convinced about having Franklin in the team in Rnd 1 but each to their own.

Good luck

simmo3

Thanks mate. Thought of leaving out franklin for pendelbury or dangerfield but there is less rookie value in the fwd line. Would also be headless if he scores big and I don’t have him.

SCaddict

Yeah the Buddy dilemma is one of the toughest individual selections this season. The bugger can burn you either way whether you have him at Rd 1 or not.

I reckon there's a high probability he will drop well below $600K early in the season with the draw the Hawks have but he's certainly more than capable of pumping out 150 plus scores when you least expect it.

Currently out of my team in favour of Stevie J but haven't ruled out the Budmeister yet that's for sure.

simmo3

I just don’t know if I can leave him out. Would be kicking myself if I didn’t start with him and it backfired. I’m pretty happy with how my team sits with him in it. Aside from a few upgrades that would probably be 50/50 anyway I dunno what I would do with the cash

SCaddict

In that case leave him in. It's one of those things you could argue either way.

PortJared04

Wines, K.Stevens, B.Crouch, K.Mitchell, J.Viney, J.O'Meara.

Want 4 out of these 6, don't care too much about price.
Which 4 would you pick community?

Ben

For me: Wines, Crouch, Mitchell, O'Meara. Then Viney then Stevens.

Smittzzy

Wines/Mitchell are magnets lock them!

Omeara for me and Viney.

Crouch has got some serious competition in that midfield (Van Berlo, Dangerfield, Thompson, Vince, Sloane)

Koby looks expensive to me

JustSayin

get on Koby, he isn't just a cash cow! if fit he is going to play every game in the WBD midfield and Boydy needs someone to handball it too, Lock! Dunno about Wines, big wraps about being "in and under" – don't think that'll hope up in young legs for a whole season.

Also, Crouch, Mitchell O'Meara

JJFyzz

I've dropped Wines and Stevens

JJFyzz

Hi Jock,

Love the post. Great work as always.

Stevie J and the forward rookies are doing my head in soooooooooo, totally opposite to what I did last year where I was just going for as many league wins as possible, I've changed my structure to allow for an increase in value at the start of the year so i can come home strong.

Back 3 Prem – 0 Mid – 3 Rookies Bench 2 rookies
Mids 4 – 1 – 3 Bench 2 Rookies
Rucks 1 – 0 – 1 Bench 2 Rookies
Fwds 5 – 1 – 0 Bench 1 Mid, 1 Rookie

Of the 5 Premos in the Fwd line, 2 are Fwd/Rck and 3 are Fwd/Mids.

Could all change if none of the 3 rookie rucks get a guernsey for Rnd 1

What do ya reckon Jock??

Dom

This is my team:

DEFENDERS: B.Goddard, B.Gibbs, P.Duffield, D.Heppell, B.Goodes, N.Vlastuin (S.Docherty/S.Colquhoun(E))

MIDFIELD: G.Ablett (C), D.Swan(VC), S.Pendlebury, P.Dangerfield, L.Shuey, H.Bennell, O.Wines, K.Mitchell. (B.Crouch(E)/J.O'Meara(E))

RUCK: S.Jacobs , D.Currie. (S.Rowe/J.Witts)

FORWARD: L.Franklin, T.Walker, M.LeCras, A.Cornelius, B.Macaffer, S.Mayes (S.Dwyer/T.Lee(E))

$2,100 left

Dom

What do you think?

SCaddict

Pretty good looking team. Reckon you're a little light on for ruck and forward back-up.

So I would suggest you consider dropping one of your premium mids and bring in either Cox, Ryder, Hale or Roughie into your forward line which will also give you coverage in the rucks too.

Dom

I know my forward seems a little tight, so I have managed to put in Rockliff instead of Mayes

Andrew

Anyone think Kyle Martin will get game time for Collingwood, dont know much about him but has impressed in the NAB

SCaddict

Kyle who?…

Yeah well down the list on the Pies jam packed midfield. Guys like Seedsman or Macaffer could struggle to get games when Daisy and Ball come back let alone someone like Martin.

Jono96

Def
Goddard, Gibbs, Duffield, Heppel, Vlastuin, Goodes (Stevenson, Terlich)
Mid
Ablett, Kennedy, Shuey, Fyfe, Mundy, Moloney, Mitchell, O'Meara (Crouch, Viney)
Ruck
Cox, Leuenberger (Daw, Currie)
Fwd
Roughead, Zorko, Watts, LeCras, Varcoe, Macaffer (Rowe, Lamb)

Weighing up between Lamb and Neade and Kerridge
Also not sure wether to keep Cox, Lecras and Daw and have the ruck/fwd swing option or have Z. Smith, Rockliff and Neade without it.
Thoughts?

Smittzzy

Careful with watts mate.

Campbo

Is Sam Mayes a chance of starting round one??

JustSayin

Shouldn't get a look into your round one team at that price, hasn't done much!

Tommy Gun

What’s the story with frosty the snowman at collingwood is he expected to get game time early in the season?

Shimma

Anyone think Macaffer on field with Rowe and Dwyer on bench is too risky for my FWD line?

Philip

Yes, Your bench has to have job security, you also need the money for the nice little price rise you can expect from the rookies who get game time.

JustSayin

Macaffer will play, saw him yesterday. Running well, accurate kick! popped up for a few goals, not much else down forward

PortJared04

Is it a good idea to have a midfielder who has a DPP status?
Eg. heppel in the middle?

SCaddict

It's not a terrible idea but I believe you should go with as many midfield specialists as possible in the MID line.

So would prefer guys like Goddard, Heppell, Stevie J , Rockliff, Zorko in either my FWD or DEF lines rather than the middle.

Daniel

Josh kennedy or dangerfield

Dom

I have Dangerfield but that is a good question though

BPP

JP for mine

JJFYZZ

Danger for me

Wino

I have both

JustSayin

JK – will be consistent (safe)
Dangerman – could go BANG and avg. 120-130 this season. (risk)

SharkBait

Defenders: Goddard, Gibbs, Duffield, Heppell, Vlastiun, Goodes, Stevenson, Terlich

Midfielders: Ablett, Pendlebury, Murphy, Swallow, Bennell, Fyfe, Mitchell, Crouch, O'Meara, Viney

Rucks: Jacobs, Currie, Rowe, Grimely

Forwards: Roughead, Rockliff, Cloke, LeCras, Varcoe, Macaffer, Kerridge, Lee
only got 7,800 left

thought would be great on this

JustSayin

Like it, alot. Really good midfield POD.

Tommy Gun

Will Spangher get games for the Hawks? Looked impressive in NAB cup

SCaddict

Yeah reckon he should get games. He's done enough in the NAB Cup to get noticed and his versatility to play both back and forward is a major attraction for Clarko.

He's one of those fringe players though so job security is probably not assured at this point.

Chloe

My team is as follows:
DEF- B.Goddard, B.Gibbs, P.Duffield, B.Ellis, N.Vlaustin, B. Goodes, L.Stevenson, D.Terlich.

MID- G.Ablett, S.Pendlebury, P.Dangerfield, B.Deledio, D.Mundy, B.Moloney, B.Crouch, J.O'meara, K.Mitchell, J.Viney

RUCK- S.Jacobs, D.Currie, S.Rowe, J.Witts.

FWD- L.Franklin, D.Cox, D.Zorko, M.Lecras, P.Karnezis, B.Macaffer, S.Kerridge, A.Kennedy.
Change? Good? Startover? Feeback welcome. ๐Ÿ™‚

SCaddict

No nothing wrong there at all. Nice job!

Aaron

I’ve noticed a lot of teams have Heppell don’t think he will get much midfield time once Zaha is back so keep that in mind.

Jammo

Ryder or Rockliff

Kev

Rocky

JustSayin

Rock. Lock.

Daniel

Josh kennedy (WCE) or Travis Varcoe

JJFYZZ

JJK

Daniel

Lewis Jetta or Dustin Martin?

Smittzzy

Have a gamble go Dusty. But its not on me ๐Ÿ˜‰

JustSayin

If you HAD to choose, Dusty. Jetta won't have much to offer for SC. Entertainment on the other hand.

dannyboy

Haha im stuck on jack Watts or Dustin Martin

Tension

Nice team Chloe. Many of those are either in my team or on the radar. Only things is you are relying on Mick to give Bryce a kick up the backside. Birchall more reliable?

Ben

Hey would appreciate anyone to rate it
Who should i trade i have 87K left over

DEF; Goddard, Gibbs, Birchall, Heppell, Docherty, Goodes (Coloquohoun, Terlich)

MID: Pendulbury, Cotchin, Watson, Kennedy, Moloney, Wines, Crouch, Omeara
(Viney, Mitchell)

RUCK: Jacobs, Leunberger (Currie, Rowe)

FORW: Franklin, Rockliff, Cox, Broughton, Varcoe, Macaffer (Dwyer, Kerridge)
Reply2 replies · active 1 day ago

JustSayin

Get in Gazza. Or upgrade Broughton to Zork/Bartel for some POD

Campbo

Cheers

JJFYZZ

Broughton?? Really.

Upgrade to Stevie J (out Rnd 1) but put in a rookie for Rnd 1(named once the teams are announced).

PortJared04

Love the site and especially the comments in the Jock Reynolds community, if any are interested, myself and a few Supercoach nerds have created a SC page on Facebook, to update on injuries, scores, stats, and general info on Supercoach/Dreamteam.
Once a few likes are gathered will start posting about a few high-mid-priced smokies for this year, http://www.facebook.com/pages/Sir-AFL-Supercoach/http://www.facebook.com/pages/Sir-AFL-Supercoach/http://www.facebook.com/pages/Sir-AFL-Supercoach/

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5 likes and statuses will go up

Phil

Ok so i'm going with 5 rookie mids atm, from the 6 options on the cheat sheet, who misses out (i have enough cash for all of them) and who starts on the bench.

At this stage i'm thinking Stevens, Winey and Mitchell starting, but am starting to wonder whether putting omeara on and selling Winey would be a better idea in terms of value for money. Is winey really worth the extra 50k?

Luke

Zorko Lewis Bartel Hawkins Walker

Need two of them.
Who would you pick?

Aaron

Bartel & Lewis

Deanbartel

I've got Lewis in my midfield as a POD

JJFYZZ

Zorko and Wlker

JustSayin

Zorko and Bartel.

Phil

Zorko and Bartel, Key forwards are too inconsistent and i don't know much about Lewis.