PODCAST | The (Long) Italian Job

Episode names for podcasts are hard, but sometimes they just fall into your lap. It’s like finding that perfect word, or finding that thing that fits perfectly on your windowsill, or a tool that fits perfectly in your toolbox.

This was one of them. It’ll make sense eventually. Trust me. Lek and Patch go absolutely off the rails on a super-long, mega, extraordinary JLT-coverage rampage through each and every game.

There’s tears, there’s tribulations, there’s terrible, terrible jokes, but above all there are nuggets of Supercoach relevance in this bumper edition of the Jock Reynolds Community Podcast.

Check out every single JLT match review on the website, with huge shout-outs to Damo, Kev and Barron von Crow for throwing them together.

Look out for each other, too – and for those going through tough times in drought or bushfires, accept a bit old hug from us and for the rest of the community.

Get around each other, get around your teams and most importantly, GET AROUND JACK BILLINGS*.

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  1. Patch says:

    Apologies for this one being so late, community. It's a long one and there were a lot of problems with editing. That said, if you want anything more in-depth about any of the games or either of us (Lek) is speaking to quickly, head to the games we've covered, including one the beautiful Damo covered while we were recording and couldn't discuss: http://www.jockreynolds.com.au/2019/03/04/fremant

    Love you all xoxo

  2. Iamme says:

    Super deluxe extended Pod this week fellas…nice!.

  3. Holty01 says:

    Nice work lads. Looking forward to listening to it later on.

  4. Nice_Person says:

    Is mills a lock?
    Looks to be playing midfeild and had a nice DT to SC ratio

    • SC_Kev7 says:

      Jury still out if it’s a full time gig. Swans were missing a few of their first choice back 6 the other night, hopefully they play JLT2 and we’ll see what this means for Miils

    • Sharkmove_King says:

      We say it every year but there has to become a time when this guy becomes a midfielder and now appears to be the time.

      All comes down to JLT2 for me. If he plays mid and plays well he's in.

    • JohnDJ59 says:

      He's been in my team from the start, he will either be my D2 or D3 depending on what structure I go with.

    • Patch says:

      Definitely not a lock, but one to keep an eye on. So many underpriced defensive options and so little space to pick them in. Need to see him back it up before I can consider him

  5. Rivo says:

    Look forward to a listen later lads. 👍🏽

    So do we bin Fort now or give him one more chance? Can’t see Sweet getting a run. Any other rook R3 options that may provide cover?

    • Sharkmove_King says:

      I doubt any will play Round 1, unless if you're willing to pay 200k+ and get a Pierce, Smith or Longer.

      Zac Clarke is only 1 injury to Bellchambers away from being a very good cow at 144k. Bellchambers is pretty injury prone so I think that's a decent option.

      Other than that you could pick a 102k r/f but that's probably only worth it if u see Westhoff a top,8 fwd and plan on getting him later. Sweet at 102k might be the better option.

      • TelescopicCox says:

        Agree with Sharkmove_King. If no solid R3 rookie appears I'd look at a 102K R/F rookie. The swingset comes in handy in case of a ruck injury

        • Rivo says:

          True though my structures and cash don’t allow the luxury of a Westoff at F3. Will need to think on this one. Fort has laid the peverbial on field turd!

    • Patch says:

      I think the rookie ruck scenario is dead and buried, Rivo. We might get some games out of Zac Clarke but beyond that I'm skeptical.

      More than happy to be proven wrong, mind you!

  6. Sellars1226 says:

    Who will score more Williams or Smith?

  7. magic mullet says:

    other than danger and Heeney, what forward premos or even mid pricer should i target because my forward line is in tatters and there are barely any rookies to cover

    • Patch says:

      I'm big on both Devon Smith and Mitch Wallis having seen them in action, but we're in dire straits up forward, Mullet. Dire straits indeed.

      • magic mullet says:

        ill have to have a look at walters as well now with no neale and playing a lot of midfield lately

      • Ty vickery says:

        Mitch Wallis?? Bloke has never played a full season. People scared of Fyfe for the same reason. I know which one is more likely to be top 10 in their position

    • Patch says:

      (also JACK BILLINGS)

    • JohnDJ59 says:

      D.Smith is the only other premo I would be looking at and I really would like a mid pricer at F4, but also not sure who to go with, currently thinking about Worpel.

    • Hawk131415 says:

      Been liking Wallis from the get go, but the way my team is structured i cant afford him, plays a lot of mid, goes for little stints up forward, kicks one or two, tackles, really like him, and at $498,800, i think hes good value, keeps getting better, hell, i might take him over Heeney and pick Heeney up later on, sure to drop in price, just sold myself,lol

  8. Sellars1226 says:

    Thoughts on team

    DEF: Laird, Sicily, Smith, Roberton, Collins, Clarke ( Hore, Greaves)
    MID: Macrae, Crippa, Neale, Dusty, M Crouch, Libba, Walsh, Butters ( Constable, Hind, Gibbons )
    RUC: Gawn, Goldy ( Fort )
    FWD: Danger, Heeney, Billings, Setterfield, Drew, Parker ( Wilkinson, Gibbons)

    • Sharkmove_King says:

      Gibbons is in there twice, that's the first thing I notice…but not a big deal obviously that F8 is someone else.

      Overall, I like the team. The 2 things I'd question are no Grundy & forward line looks a tad light. But with every starting team there's always a weak spot (mine included) and overall I think it would be a very competitive side

      • Sellars1226 says:

        F8 is Cotrell my mistake. Am currently trying to get Grundy in moving players and what not

        • Sellars1226 says:

          Can get Grundy if Fort goes to Fullarton but not sure he will play, not sure if Fort will play either tbh

    • BadgerHoney7 says:

      greaves won't play so probably move him on, other than that pretty nice team. billings nice pod

    • Tony says:

      Don’t like the Sicily pick but that’s just me, could be a bit of bias there. Really like your team otherwise.

    • Patch says:

      Looking really nice there Sellars. Well balanced.

  9. Ryan says:

    Thoughts lads

    DEF: Lloyd, laird, Williams, Smith, Clarke, Duursma, (Hore, Watson)

    MID: Macrae, cripps, Fyfe, Oliver, Neale, libba, Walsh, butters, (constable, Bewley, gibbons)

    Ruck: Grundy, Goldy, (Sweet)

    FWD: Danger, Heeney, setterfield, Burgess, Balta, petruccelle, (Parker, Cavarra)

    Any help would be great

    • Derek says:

      Fyfe’s elbow worries me. Kelly same price.

      A seriously good midfield.

    • magic mullet says:

      I would start cavara or parker over petrucelle

      • Lazza says:

        Yep, I had Pet initially… totally gone off him after JLT1… gone off Quaynor as well… ok in team scratch matches…. frightened rabbit in the real deal… gone straight to Clarke.. slightly more expensive but will deliver..

      • Tony says:

        How does cavarra get a game if he can’t get into a 26 man team for JLT 1. Highly doubt he starts

    • Tony says:

      fwd line very risky, other lines are strong.

    • Ryan says:

      Thanks lads

    • Maverick_ says:

      you don’t need to start six 600k mids Ryan. So much value between 520-590k. Crouch dusty beams Zerrett Sloane brayshaw. Even watch tarantos JLT2. Free up some cash for ya fwd line. Rooks are thin there balta won’t play he plays Lynch’s role they didn’t pay 10mil for Tom to play a rookie. Pettrucelle was horrible in JLT & cavarra couldn’t even make dogs JLT1. Parker and setters an Burgess should be solid enough.

      • DavidC says:

        Balta probably will play because they need a second ruck. Lynch won't be risked in the ruck. Soldo is the one that will go out when Lynch comes in.

        • Lazza says:

          Hmm, he did some fwd rucking in the VFL, but wasn't the 2nd ruck… he is only 194cm tall …can jump and has good size… a fair bit taller than last years ruck though…. don't get in his way … he'll hurt ya…

  10. Dice_real says:

    Pick 4 out of…..
    Jack Macrae, Paddy Cripps, Clayton Oliver, Josh Kelly, Lachie Neale.
    And why is that poor bugger left out??

    • CJudd3Votes says:

      Kelly because of injury history

    • Sharkmove_King says:

      The first 3 are rock solid so none of thoughs….That leaves Kelly or Neale. Neale more durable, Kelly more upside. If you want safe go Neale.

    • Prizza says:

      Mcrae may be cheaper come round four after running into Hewitt, Howe, and Millar!

    • Lazza says:

      Only based on the need for $$$$$$$ elsewhere … Neale over Kelly… it’s only $10k… but every bit is gonna count this season..

    • JohnDJ59 says:

      I'm only picking three, Cripps, Oliver, Neale. I can't afford Macrae and not a fan of Kelly.

    • Maverick_ says:

      macrae cripps oliver neale..
      Kelly not playing any JLT.

      grab him when he drops 50+k from starting the season slowly

  11. Kevin Sheedy says:

    15 mins into the podcast, normally great but you guys really butchered the Essendon segment!
    – Haven't seen Ridley before? He was a cash cow option just last year (ended up getting injured in his 3rd game yes, but strange to not remember him for SC podcasters).
    – Zac Clarke was playing defence last year??
    – McGrath 2nd year blues??
    – "Doing the classic Zach Merrett… getting injured in pre-season, missing the first few rounds" – is this purely based on last year? The guy has missed 1 game in 3 years (and it was a round 21 game), he also generally starts the season pretty well (unlucky to get KO'd and deal with concussion early last year).

    Sorry to be so blunt but was a tough few mins to listen to.

    • Gord29 says:

      Mate than just put an HOUR podcast up, each did a rewiew over the weekend and add going through content others have sent them…. think you can ignore it as these blokes arent getting paid a cent for providing the wonderful content thats on this site

      • George says:

        Yeah lets just ignore all of the incorrect or misleading information. it is only a game after all and it's not like these guys are calling themselves authorities on the game. if we wanted precise educated analysis to help win overall rank we'd be at SCT this site is for league players who don't care about rank, or facts 🙂

        • JR community says:

          SCT is for rookies mate, this site has more educated/experienced players

        • Lazza says:

          C’mon George .. a funded site vs hobby… get some perspective

        • Gord29 says:

          I'm sure the boys would be happy to put in more time for coin to mate. It's a free site which they donate a hell of a lot of time to keep things running. Plus alot of members discussing info is great help

          • Lekdog says:

            Cheers Gords.

            For the record I know I said he Merrett misses the first few games, what I meant was he goes missing in the first few games.

            Clarke played a bunch of time in defence in the WAFL last year.

            • Kevin Sheedy says:

              The old double down… let's delve deeper then:
              – Merrett broke out as a premium in 2016, here are his numbers since
              2016: First month 117, Season avg 111
              2017: First month 114, Season avg 109
              2018: Knocked out in round 1, destroyed his start to the season
              – Zac Clarke's numbers last year, can't see where he could've fit in time in defence
              He kicked a score in 18/20 games
              His lowest hitout tally was 25 in a game
              It's just worth mentioning that he performed well as a forward last year

              I understand this podcast is unpaid, you give up a lot of your time that the rest of us wouldn't be willing to give up, but a lot of people listen to your advice so errors should still be called out. Just a bad few minutes.

              • Gord29 says:

                Looking forward to listening to your jlt2 podcast Kevin Sheedy

              • Nice_Person says:

                Yeah so many listeners seasons will be over now that there was a mention of Clark playing defence.
                End of the day mate people should take away what they choose from the podcast and make their own decisions.

                • Steve_Pirate says:

                  Hilarious thread, so many people getting so defensive over the podcast! Of course it's good to know Clarke played well as a forward, that's the role he'll need to play. At the end of the day it's best for the community if we correct mistakes, relax guys.

        • GloryDays94 says:

          Lol 😂

        • Russty_ says:

          That's a bit nasty George, I thought it was a very entertaining and funny podcast, especially the part about not Cumming and doing Hores lol….If you want so called "expert" analysis, go to the official sites and listen to the guys who get paid for it, these guys still know plenty and have fun doing it.
          You sound like a couple of unsavoury characters from the past who are still here…albeit rather muted these days.

    • Patch says:

      I did think we could have done that Essendon segment a bit better while I was editinig. Ridley was later in the season and not a lot jumped on, but points taken on the other three – I definitely remember reading somewhere Clarke played defence last year but looking as his stats, as you've pointed out, it looks like he was playing forward if anything.

      We were rushing through it, and we're not perfect, as much as we try to be

  12. Nice_Person says:

    Yet another article mentioning Sicily as a swing man this year

    • Sharkmove_King says:

      It's taken me a while to get to this point, but I don't think I can start with him. Even if he only plays 10% forward for the year, we are paying full price for him as a defender because that's where he played last year. Upgrade target

      • Hawk131415 says:

        I disagree with that Shark, if he plays 90% down back and 10% up forward, thats gold, his better scores are when he runs up forward and kicks 1 or two, i actually see it as a bonus??

        • PizzaSafety says:

          That’s when he runs all the way from half-back up the wing and kicks goals from the edge of the 50, him playing time as a forward led to his scores stagnating, I.e against Brisbane at the Gabba

          • Hawk131415 says:

            Yeah correct Pizza, i dont think it will be that drastic a move from Clarko, and i hope it isnt, but see what happens in JLT2?

    • Lekdog says:


  13. Whitey says:

    Is Menagola injured, says returning round 1-2 on the SC site but doesn't say anything about it on the match report.

  14. Whitey says:

    Hi everyone love you thoughts. I have 187k to upgrade somewhere (not the ruck, I understand the risks etc, etc). I could go one of the mid price defenders up to Hurn or someone or one of the rookies to Roberton. Maybe upgrade the rookie midfielders to a Libba, Miles, Cousins? Fwd line rookies are very up in the air as well.

    All thoughts welcome. Cheers in advance.

    Def:Whitfield, Laird, Williams, Smith, Collins, Quanynor

    Mid: McRae, Cripps, Oliver, Neale, Crouch, Butter, Constable, Bewely

    Ruc: Grundy, Piece

    Fwds: Danger, Heeney, Menegola, Setterfiled, Parker, Drew

    • Gord29 says:

      Bewley to Libba

      • gator59 says:

        What's your thinking with R2….. Got to have big plums to do that… I wish you well

        • Whitey says:

          Haha, yer the rest of my side looks so much better with a cheap R2 but I will probably have to give in and go to Goldy I suspect. Just living in the clouds for now.

          • Tony says:

            Know how ya feel whitey I wanted mummy or longer to become a mid price option, just can’t see anyone being worth it. Witts a bit of a Smokey, I could see him beating goldstein, but not Grundy/gawn

        • Whitey says:

          I could downgrade one of my mids to Dusty to get Witts or do I just need to bite the bullet and find the money for Goldy. Cheers gator.

          • gator59 says:

            One from left field would be Kruezer.. We all know what he's capable of… If you went him just make sure you have a little cash stashed away in case he goes down… He may get you through to find out and see who's firing on all cylinders

  15. Nice_Person says:

    The cox curse is real!!!
    Not feeling the Grundy pick at all! Goodbye

    • Rick Grimes says:

      Gawn? Or neither?

      • Nice_Person says:

        Gawn gold

        • Lazza says:

          I’m thinking same..

        • Tony says:

          Getting sucked in to 1 game, only way he isn’t top 2 is if he is injured

        • Russty_ says:

          Could be a bad call, even if he doesn't score as high as last year, he'll still be top 2….Let's face it last year's Ruckman numbers were insane.
          So you'd save 16 grand….then what would you do with that?
          You'd still want to end up with both wouldn't you?
          Going Grundy to Gawn is really 6 in one and half a dozen in the other.

    • AuroraBorealis?! says:

      Big call,

      I personally think Grundy is one of the only ruckmen who can break the cox curse. He essentially plays as a tall midfielder and plays in a hungry team surrounded by excellent midfielders. Can't see him not being top 2 again this year

      • Patch says:

        We said that about Kruezer, and about Gawn, and about Goldstein, and even about the Skin Flute back in the day. Dean Cox works in mysterious ways, Borealis…

        that said, my god Grundy looks incredible and there's no logical reason not to select him… only this stupid, weird, crazy historical precedent

    • Russty_ says:

      Nah it was hot in Perth yesterday, and windy…and the established players aren't going to go all out to win a practice match, Grundy is the cream on the cake, he wouldn't have cared that much not getting 130 yesterday. Just that he got through it.

    • Nice_Person says:

      Yeah scrap this guys Grundy is back in

    • Maverick_ says:

      Will Sandi be #1 at Fremantle?
      Lobb looks to have Rucked well and plays like another midfielder very agile.. any love as an F3 option with a fwd/ruck at R3 if he can back up JLT2?

    • Lekdog says:

      I'm really torn between a curse and the fact he has 7 VC opportunities early in the season

  16. DEE says:

    Good evening lads, I just set up a league under SC COMMUNITY CUP. League code is 177003, please feel free to join if you are keen for a bit of a friendly challenge! Good luck everyone…

  17. Don’t says:

    I had Devon Smith at F3 but went off him for Mundy but so sure now , I believe he was to play more mid ? Confused

    • Tony says:

      He did play mid, he just didn’t play very well. Could still see Mundy as a top fwd, watch jlt 2 before ruling him out

      • Russty_ says:

        To be fair, it was a hot…40 degree day and windy, and both sides didn't seem that invested, it's not the normal weather guys play Footy in…a lot of it would've been about self preservation.
        I wouldn't read too much into it all.

    • Gen says:

      Personally i believe Devon Smith will kick more goals and have more tackles with time running thru the mids. Smith easily for me

    • Patch says:

      I'm tossing up between the two of them as well. Will wait until JLT before leaning one way or the other

  18. Tyruddanaut says:

    Alright, this probably isn't the place to post my team but here goes

    Lloyd, Ryan, Williams, Smith, Collins, Clark, (Burgess, Collins)
    Macrae, Cripps, Oliver, Coniglio, Miles, Walsh, Hately, Constable, (Bewley, Golds, Gibbons)
    Grundy, Peirce, (Campbell)
    Danger, Menegola, Heeney, Curnow, Setterfield, Drew, (Walker, Parker)

    <15 Keeper i.e. high potential value for money.
    Relevant defenders, and forwards likely to change to a more fantasy relevant position (midfield/HFF)
    10 mature age rookies, i.e. 2nd year on, 3 others.

    3 first round pick rookies (Walsh, Hately, Clark)
    >200,000 bench player in rucks
    5 mid-pricers (including Ryan)

    • Such is Fyfe says:

      Hey mate, love your mid + defence and even Pierce at R2 (reckon I’ll be rocking the same)

      Howeved, I’d argue you don’t have 14 keepers, would be around 10 with some luck.
      I’d be downgrading Miles and upgrading Smith and Ryan who are unlikely to be top 10 and hence, wasted picks to some likely top 10 candidates.
      Gotta remember there’s plenty of mid pricers this year but as history shows only 2-3 are likely to actually be good picks.

      Good luck for the season

      • Tyruddanaut says:

        You are probably right about this one. Although history also didn't have as supercoach relevant rule changes. I might as well up/downgrade ryan now if he isn't going to be a keeper, but I didn't see too much in the JLT, maybe I'll stay safe with Laird?

    • Tony says:

      I’ve counted 11 premos. That’s including ryan and Williams which are questionable. Curnow smith miles and pierce arent keepers. I can understand picking a value R2, but they’re aren’t many good options. Downgrade curnow, Smith or miles, upgrade pierce.

      • Tyruddanaut says:

        If a 420,000$ player isn't a keeper, why would I have him?
        Pierce isn't a keeper no, but I did say <15 which means anywhere from 15-0 and it was more to highlight my rookie situation.
        Value R2 is because there aren't many good options at Premo-price. I want to see how it goes.

    • Maverick_ says:

      10 keepers 11 max and that’s being generous. Find a way to upgrade pierce at R2 and it’s a respectable side. Few risks in Ryan who had a very ordinary JLT1 Wilson looks to be kicking in maybe look at Newman? & curnow shows glimpses of class doesn’t he. McGovern may free him up a bit I don’t mind that selection as a POD but he’s probably the one if downgrade to free cash for ya ruck.

      • Tyruddanaut says:

        Ryan: 83 points off 63% game time.
        If he played 80% like in the real season, he would have scored over 100.
        Also took some kick-ins and played on from all of them.

        I will consider trading him out, though. I don't see as many options due to JLT 1. All the top ones were mid pricers apart from Shaw and Hurn

    • Russty_ says:

      Hi Ty I think Roberton could produce the same output as Ryan, Carlisle will take awhile to get back… noticed you had 2 Collins there…lol.
      I loved Miles for awhile but ended up going Libba instead to save some money and we know he can score well.
      Could save some more dosh going Menengitis to Smith/ Mundy/ Walters even Billings if you're feeling adventurous… and Curnow to Greene? Curnow is still a bit of a risky pick for me, Greene is too but is a proven scorer when fit and not in flog mode.
      Should allow you to get a much better R2….just my 2 cents mate.

      • Tyruddanaut says:

        I wish I could have 2 Collins!

        Carlisle taking a while to get back is what me not choose Roberton; he will not play as a supercoach friendly role. General comments suggest Ryan is out, though.
        Miles vs Libba will depend on JLT2, but it might become neither
        With Menegola, he only played 50% game time, had he play 80% at the same rate, he would have scored over 120
        Greene might not play round one at this rate and Curnows role is looking to change significantly. Remember when everyone thought he was going to break out? He didn't because he became a KPP, McGovern has filled that role, and the second ruck will also play KPP leaving no room for Curnow.

  19. Lazza says:

    Talk about confused… I’ve just dumped Walsh and Martin for Libba and Taranto… not that Walsh has made init to my SC team @H&S,, just in my modelling tool… JLT1 leaves me with half a dozen different teams …

    • Russty_ says:

      Any way you could get all 3 in Lazza?…Taranto could be special this year.

    • kinglear009 says:

      Ditching Walsh after that JLT – jeez, poor man!!

      • Russty_ says:

        After their intraclub scratch match in which he starred and then the JLT match in which he starred, I think this kid might be the Six Million Dollar Rookie.

      • Lazza says:

        No, rich man … in terms of cost per point per minute Walsh was not in the top 25 rookies in JLT1.
        Many getting carried with the hype of Pick 1. He is too expensive unless you think he is a keeper.
        At this point I do not see him as a keeper. JLT1 and intra-club = March champion.
        Easily out-performed from a cost perspective in JLT1 by other MIDs – Butters, Constable, Hately, Setterfield and Caldwell.
        At this point in time it is his job security that has him pressing to be in my squad.

        • JohnDJ59 says:

          Interesting Lazza, at the moment I am starting with Walsh M6, Butters M7, Hately M8, Constable M9, Setterfield F4. The only high priced rookies I started with last year were in defence, I usually prefer the cheaper ones, but there don't seem to be that many this year. I could see one of them still being in my team near the end, sitting at M9.

  20. AuroraBorealis?! says:

    Hey community, already posted this but i've only had 3 people join so i thought i'd give it another crack.

    If anyone would like to join a league and will be competitive then please jump in at: 637893

    Would love to see some regular contributors joining if they aren't already at the 10 league max.


  21. Chris_Judd says:

    Thoughts on this team:

    Def: Laird, Witherden, Williams, Smith, Collins, Clark (Watson, Hore)

    Mid: Cripps, Oliver, Fyfe, Kelly, Neale, Walsh, Butters, Constable (Bewley, Hayes, Gibbons)

    Ruc: Grundy, Goldy (Bines)

    Fwd: Danger, Heeney, Billings, Setterfield, Drew, Parker (Petruccelle, Cavarra)

    89.5K left in the bank

    • Maverick_ says:

      Pretty Solid all over mate. Personally I don’t see the attraction in 5 mids over 600k though With so much value around that 550k. Maybe Look at dusty crouch coniglio Merrett beams Sloane though and bank some cash they all offer great value. Taranto worth another look at in JLT2 but that’s getting risky

      • kinglear009 says:

        I get the appeal of the bargain premium Maverick but Cripps and Oliver currently look to be the safest prospects in Supercoach for enormous output, and Neale's JLT was superb. In fact all the midfielders over 600 right now are giving you that high ceiling certainty you need at M1-M5 (I would even add Coniglio at 580k into that group). Perhaps Fyfe and Kelly are too injury prone to take on both but Fyfe may break the algorithm bearing Freo on his shoulders. Moving beyond them you emerge onto shaky ground: Dusty the part-time forward, Merrett's JLT shocker, Sloane the eminently taggable, and Beams the overcrowded – each of them concern me.

        • Ty vickery says:

          Completely agree. I think Fyfe and kelly together is maybe a little risky but there’s no doubt they are top 10 mids if they stay on the park. Very solid team!

          • Chris_Judd says:

            I understand that both Fyfe and Kelly is a bit risky together. Would it be worth bringing in cogs for Kelly? As this would also allow me to upgrade billings to someone more reliable up forward such as D Smith

  22. TommyC99 says:

    Thoughts on Jack Crisp? Pies man so maybe a little bias but like the way he goes about it. Loves a kick but DE can be an issue. Has the ceiling as well with 7 scores of 110+ but 6 scores below 80 is an issue

    • Ty vickery says:

      A bit of a pod selection due to all the value in the backline. I’ve looked at him too, certainly couldn’t blame anyone for picking him

    • Russty_ says:

      If you're picking him as a keeper premo Tommy I reckon you need 13 tons per season minimum. Plenty of value in the backline this year, guys who can exceed their value, and make money and extra points.
      There could be a lot of teams this year who never achieve full backline premo…but maybe they won't care.

      • TommyC99 says:

        Hey russty, completely agree mate. He fell under that 13 tons last year so would be asking for him for a mini breakout you could say. Would have to downgrade Oliver to a cheaper mid premium in order to upgrade Crisp to a hurn/Whitfield/simmo. Or just go for a smith/robbo type and use the cash elsewhere

        • Russty_ says:

          Don't think we can afford to not have Oliver mate, like you said, maybe consider downgrading, Williams, Witherden, Smith or Roberton should all score better than shite lol…use that to firm your rucks or get that extra solid option in the fwd line maybe.

    • Lekdog says:

      Very close to being in my side, bloke I work with was very high up in the high performance team in Collingwood until recently and reckons he's going to another level again. Great bloke too!

  23. Ty vickery says:

    Anyone know what forward rookies are going to play? Thinking might have to rock 4 premos! Besides setterfield and maybe drew (if named) can’t see any good rookies. Parker, petrucelle and burgess should all play, but will they score? Can’t see any others even getting a gig….

    • Derek says:

      There is a guy from the Sun’s might get a game. Burgess? DPP as well, always handy, $123k. Kicked 2 goals on the weekend.

      • Ty vickery says:

        Yeah he’s on my bench currently Derek, just not sure he’s a rookie I’d be putting on the field. Atm I have setters and drew on the ground, with 4 premos. Can’t see balta or cavarra playing. Looking a bit bleak

        • Derek says:

          His DPP is really handy. Allows you to trade in a forward from another line.

          Say we need a forward, and we have an injury to elsewhere. Injury player out, trade in a forward. Switcharoo.

    • Russty_ says:

      Wouldn't have to go 4 premos, maybe 3 or 2, with a couple of midpricers, rookies are thin there, we'll know a lot more in a week or so.

      • Ty vickery says:

        What mid pricers you looking at rus? Couple from Brisbane weren’t too bad but were playing against a vfl team. I’m finding the forwards very tough this year

        • Russty_ says:

          Greene, maybe even Elliott, he's a decent pest / scoring small forward when fit. Greene 354 Elliott 280

    • Gen says:

      I know Burgess is a KPP in a shit team, but he looks a decent player who should have good job security. Beggars cant be choosers i I guess haha

  24. Russty_ says:

    If Brad Crouch kicks butt again in the next JLT and tons up would you start him or spend the 200k + I have in the bank on a bonafide premo instead?
    I know he's a risk but what if he's over his injury problems and is ready to become the gun he started out as?

    • TommyC99 says:

      Interesting prospect as he’s obviously well underpriced. He’s a no for me at this stage as his injury history scares me but another good performance and he must warrant consideration

      • Russty_ says:

        Understandable mate…I'm thinking of him as a Sharkmove to coin a phrase, he's a really good player when he's not injured, on the other hand, he's injured a lot…big ole risk.

        • Maverick_ says:

          He’d be oh so tempting russty just not sure I like the look of my engine room with 4 ubers BCrouch libba & Walsh. Too much risk and is unlikely I’ll have the cash to get libba to brad & toms a lock

    • Derek says:

      There was no Gibbo or Greenie in the JLT.

      Brad will score his 95-100 every week, but that’s all, until his injury.

      MCrouch is a level above.

  25. JEL says:

    I'm very tempted.
    If he holds together for 5-8 weeks he should produce some good points and increase in value.
    Then use him as a stepping stone if/when he breaks.

    • Russty_ says:

      Yeah stepping stone would be the goal if that's who you're talking about JEL…bloody risky though.

      • JEL says:

        Hmm, thought I hit reply to your post… but yes B Crouch is the man in question.
        Chance of high reward – check
        Chance of exploding in your face – check
        Chance of Sharkiest move since Jaws – check
        If it was the only dodgy play in my team I'd be tempted, but I wouldn't want any others.

        • Derek says:

          Might as well start with BCrouch and Rocky. Like the good old days. Stuffed my year up a couple ago

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  27. Nice_Person says:

    Guys avoiding poor rookie scores is not possible, unless you rock a team of midpricers.
    But we have to remember they are in there only to make some cash, and we have to cop to odd 40 that they will throw our way. Don't get to invested in the young expensive rookies that are just as likely to put up that 40 and hurt us in their cash production.
    I really like the look of Walsh however, I also really liked the look of brayshawast year too and it didn't work out so well

    • Whitey says:

      A lot a sense spoken there. JLT does it every year (to me as well), we have our team and plans we are going to stick to then one good or bad score and we throw out out teams in the hope of finding the next big thing.

    • magic mullet says:

      I'm betting cousins will have the same output as Walsh

    • Rick Grimes says:

      Agree. I See a lot of teams packed with mudpricers. Where is the cash generation going to come from? I see people getting stuck with them.

      • Derek says:

        An undervalued midpricer will make a bit of cash, but it will save you the loss in value an Uber premium will make.

        One bad game from Macrae could see him drop $100k.

        Eg: 2x $360k mids vs Uber $600k and Rookie $123k

        Let’s say in 5 weeks 2x mids are $400k each. The rookie is $300k and Uber is $500k

        Same cash. Could happen.

        • Liam says:

          But you don’t trade the premium you just gain their points so this comparison is kinda pointless.

    • Derek says:

      Walsh could be different, like TSmith last year, stayed in team much longer than the regular culling period because his output was almost premium.

      If he turns out to be as good as they say, we could look to hold him past his price rise.

      There are usually rookies all fattening up at same time, so can’t cull them all at once and fit in the injury trades and upgrades.

      You would hate to miss him

    • Hawk131415 says:

      Spot on Nice, you really want players that are decent-good, but more importantly have goog JS,

    • Patch says:

      Rock solid points there mate. Have been meaning to dig up the old 'Expensive Rookies' article to throw around as well, you're absolutely right on the cheaper rookies being hit less hard by poor scores

      • Lazza says:

        I posted some of this in a response to another post …from a cost per point per minute Walsh was not in the top 25 rookies in JLT1.
        Easily out-performed from a cost perspective in JLT1 by other MIDs – Butters, Constable, Hately, Setterfield and Caldwell.
        At this point in time it is only his job security that has him pressing to be in my squad.

  28. magic mullet says:

    anyone have there opinion on dom sheed, if he tears up the next JLT match he could be a great option and at 394k he could be a steal

    • Hawk131415 says:

      Risky Magic, obviosly jlt1 had everyone sit up and take notice, playing Freo next jlt so could carve them up as they have no one, which still make it a tough call, no from me mate,,

    • Redd says:

      Like they said in the podcast if he was a mid/fwd hed almost be a lock! But mid only i think there are better options.

  29. TelescopicCox says:

    Hi all. Would love some feedback on my post JLT1 team:

    B – Lloyd, Crisp*, Williams, Collins, Duursma, Clark (Hore, Wilkie)
    M – Macrae, Cripps, Oliver, Coniglio*, Dusty*, Walsh, Butters, Constable (Bewley, McKenzie, Gibbons)
    R – Gawn, Grundy (Fort)
    F – Danger, Heeney, Darling*, Setterfield, Parker, Balta (Petrucelle, Cavarra)

    * players not 100% locked in

    • Rick Grimes says:

      Looks solid. Just need the rookies to line up. I See a lot going only 2x rookies each line but I'm sure the Gods will provide.

  30. Lobbe Wan Kenobi says:

    Hi Guys, first time poster long time viewer. Would Love some feedback on my squad;

    B – Laird, Williams, Newman, Smith, Clarke, Hore, (Duursma, Watson)
    M – Macrae, Cripps, Neale, Coniglio, Sloane, Libba, Walsh, Butters, (Constable, Bewley, Gibbons)
    R – Grundy, Goldy, (Bines)
    F – Danger, Menegola, Heeney, Setterfield, Drew, Balta, (Parker, Wilkinson)

    $12,200 Left over

    My concern revolves around the M6/F4 position. Are we better off running another high/low price rookie such as Cousins/Hately at M6 and have a mid pricer such as Elliot/McCarthy at F4 due to the small amount of possible rookie FWDS on offer? Or should I keep the structure above with Libba and a 102k rookie?

    • The Ranger says:

      The possible lack of fwd rookies is slightly worrying eh Lobbe Wan?
      JLT2 make may make things clearer but I think it would be wise to have a plan in place for both of those options and wait for the teams to drop for Rd1

      • Lobbe Wan Kenobi says:

        I think it could be one of the first trades people make after round 2. I think I will be sticking with above and seeing how it all plays out and have plan either way. JLT2 hopefully will provide a clearer understanding.

    • Derek says:

      Why did you decide on Laird out of the other Uber defenders?

      Of all of them He has less upside

      • Lobbe Wan Kenobi says:

        I think he is just solid, and I think the extra space around will help him. The extra cash saved from Lloyd has helped out with picking up some more expensive rookies with more job security. The other I have had here is Sicily but concerned on how he will line up. Had Whitfield D2 and really like him but wanted to deeper to D4 with a midpricer.

    • Derek says:

      You could easy swap Sloane for Devon and not lose much

      • Lobbe Wan Kenobi says:

        I think he is a good value POD and will benefit from the 6-6-6 set up. Also got a decent run of games first up.

    • Patch says:

      Really strong side mate, I rate it. Feel you might be one score short in the forward line but until we get another look at some of the kids we won't know if a rookie will stand up or you need a shuffle, For where we are now, I really rate that side.

      I do need another look at Newman before I can be confident starting him

      • Lobbe Wan Kenobi says:

        100% agree the more I look at it. Maybe the case of Menegola down to Billings and a rookie up to a McCarthy/Elliot…. The thought gives me shivers. Need to stop looking at it.

  31. Hawk131415 says:

    Whats with all the foul language Lekdog??? give yourself a lecture 🙂

  32. Sixtybloody6 says:

    Might put up a league code. Comment if interested, if not I'll be #1 in JR group anyway. That's entertaining enough!

  33. AuroraBorealis?! says:

    Swapping Matt Crouch to his brother allows me to upgrade Roberton to Witherden or Mills. Definitely going to be watching closely at JLT 2, if he even has the slightest hint of injury i'm dropping him and bringing back matt

    • Lazza says:

      Is Roberton to Mills an upgrade ? Or a you talking about price? Roberton is priced at 54 points, Mills at 78.
      Do you think Mills will average 24 points more than Roberton?
      Roberton likely to average close to 90 … so Mills would need to be around 114 …. If yes, then spend the money … (I'm guessing you already have ZWilliams)

  34. Goaled Finger says:

    Given the lack of forward rookie options, would I be crazy to start 4-0-4 up front and 4-0-7 in the midfield?

    The theory being the midfield rookies should make more money in less time, and there’s always elite kids dropping cash in early rounds.

    While forward premos are also hard to pick, I still think 4 of Danger, Heeney, Smith, Mundy, Menegola, Hawkins are hardly going to be far from best 8 for the season.

    • Patch says:

      That's a massive call, and not one to make lightly – the midfield is the engine room where you get all your points. As much as you'll make cash, you won't catch up with those missed points. I'm leaning towards no. 5-0-6 is certainly an option though

      • Goaled Finger says:

        I’d suggest a typical M5 premo selection would be expected to average around 110. A typical rookie mid around 70? So a net loss of 40 a week.

        An F4 premo, about a 90 average, and a forward rookie about 50? So a net gain of 40.

        This is assuming you don’t get lucky and snare a player who out performs expectations by 15-20 points a week, or get unlucky with a Billings-like ‘premo’ selection.

        But even accounting for that, is the points difference really big enough to offset the likely faster path to full premo?

        • Goaled Finger says:

          I’m really just playing Devil’s advocate. Tough issues often need you to think outside the box…or to keep it simple…or both.

        • Ty vickery says:

          I think you’re being generous. I can this set up scoring more points. Butters/hately/cousins will easily outscore a burgess or petruccele. The difference between Matt crouch and menegola will be about 10-15. I could definitely be wrong but the difference in points will be very small either way

          • Derek says:

            there is more choice in the guts

          • Patch says:

            Ty's nailed it here – the mid rookies tend to make more cash and score more than the forward ones. I do love your thinking though Finger, it looks like we might need something really out of the box this season

        • Liam says:

          You would have the 4th best mid rookie if you went with 4-0-7 instead of 5-0-6 with both structures having the top 3 rookies on field.

          Very slim chance the 4th best mid rookie averages 70. The third best was Banfield last year who averaged around 58.

          Something to consider before choosing your structure.

    • Ty vickery says:

      My team has the exact same set up currently, I’m not as confident on Hawkins, but 4 of the other 5 are in my team, tossing up between Mundy and menegola for the last spot. Think there is much better rookies in mids than the forwards. Can’t really see much of a difference in points despite what others may think.

    • Lazza says:

      and 4 of those 6 have the same bye.

    • Sharkmove_King says:

      I've got a 4-1-6 at the moment. I agree, outside the midfield it's s struggle to find decent rookies. I'm not seeing LDU in any teams. Is there still a stench around him?

  35. Murray says:

    Could you please rate my team:
    Def Laird Whitfield Williams B Smith S Collins Hore (brugess Watson)
    Mid Cripps Oliver Fyfe Martin M Crouch Libba Constable Valente (Bewley Hinds Gibbons+
    Rucks Grundy Goldstein
    Fwd Dangerfield Heeney Duckley Setterfield Parker Drew (Cottrell Cavarra)

    What do you think, Honest appraisal needed??

    • Murray says:

      that should be burgess

    • Mick says:

      Strong team, however I’d keep an eye on dunkley’s role this week.

    • Derek says:

      i worry about Fyfe's elbow

    • JohnDJ59 says:

      I'd be swapping Dunkley for someone else, apart from that, it looks good. The Libba v Walsh at M6 is also going to be an interesting by-play between teams, a bit like Gawn v Goldy at R2.

    • Lazza says:

      Solid team Muzza, changes I’d make really depend on how much cash you have over.. and of course which of your rookies make it to R1…and the subsequent price impact of swapping them around..
      be prepared to replace Hore, Burgess, Cavarra, Valente..
      I’m assuming you have Smith as a stepping stone, and not a keeper.. otherwise I’d look to swap him out .. for who depends on your cash.

  36. Nice_Person says:

    Am I the only one that liked the look of Daniel on the weekend?
    He took a lot of kick ins and the dogs seemed to be looking for him out of defence. He was often front and centre at the packs and would dispose of the ball cleanly.
    Had a nice end to the season too, if this was due to a role change I'm interested

    • Ty vickery says:

      He did look good. Change of role? Maybe. Could’ve just been a good game, he’s certainly capable here or there. Bevo loves to throw the magnets around, very versatile side. I wouldn’t consider it unless he goes big again this week, if he does then who knows? Could be value

    • Patch says:

      A lot of people in the comments of the Suns v Doggies game did as well. Was loose off half back and had a LOT of the ball. Well underpriced at 420k for what he'll produce there and I'm interested. Will have another look at him – it looks like Matt Suckling has gone forward

  37. Nofork & Chance says:

    Leck, would you guys be open to posting your SC team names so us in the community can set up a rivalry against the great ones? Would love to also see Jock / Crouching and Higgo for some competition if they're still going (alive?)

  38. gator59 says:

    I see Tom McDonald is TED… RooTED … Out for 12 or so weeks.. Knee problems

    • Patch says:

      We really didn't kneed that.

      I guess that means Pruess plays forward? Or does Marty Hore come in and Stephen May go forward? Someone who knows how Melbourne works tell me what this means

    • Hawk131415 says:

      damn it, knew something was wrong, same as last year, out for a few then came back with a flourish, thats when i jumped on, was going to start him this year too,,,,,

    • Maverick_ says:

      I can't find a report of McDonalds injury anywhere..

      • gator59 says:

        NDD can tell you more as I had to ring him to get this confirmed… If you go into the players list and find T Mac you'll see the red injury line along side his name and put your cursor on the line and it will say Knee expected return is round 11- 15

        • Gat i reckon its BS fox reported something and there were red lines through both but my contacts know nothing It's rubbish FAKE news . maybe some one grabbed old news and ran with it . nothing on twitter nothing on our site nothing on a f l .com.. Macca had a needle in the knee two weeks back and is managing his toeheard Viney's playing this week in the twos Until it's official i dont believe it NDD

          • Maverick_ says:

            Yeah I’m not buying it NDD I have literally searched the whole internet an not found one flimsy article or mention of it.. I think we are in the clear!! Viney out may help brayshaws output and the choice to lock him down a lot easier..

            • That would be all over 7 news with Stevo but nothing i did see what Gator saw but the only bit is fox news nothing else Someone wanted a scoop i reckon and went early. i do worry about both however after Trengove's foot injury but no If it did happen Preuss would go forward not May.cheers

    • Whitey says:

      Interesting to see if this mean Pruess will def get a starting spot now.

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  41. Stompers says:

    C. Mills, Z. Williams, N. Newman, B. Smith, D. Roberton, J. Clark, C. Wilkie, M. Hore

    J. Macrae, P. Cripps, C. Oliver, S. Coniglio, T. Liberatore, S. Walsh,Z. Butters, C. Constable, B. Bewley, N. Hind, M. Gibbons

    Grundt, Goldy, A.Smith

    P. Dangerfield, I. Heeney, M. Wallis, C. Petracca, W. Setterfield, N. Balta
    W. Drew,M. Parker.

    A little cash left

    All depends on which rookies play 1st round, haven’t gone any Def Premo’s, I just think with the talent, that’s mid priced will be getting good scores and maybe taking points from them with the new kick in rule, could all change with 2 JLT games each to go, which might result in a rookie for Petracca and upgrade one of the defenders.

    Lets me know what you think.

    Cheers all

    • Whitey says:

      If you have some cash left, look to upgrade Petrapper.

    • JohnDJ59 says:

      I would be going the other way, downgrade Newman to a rookie and upgrade Tracca to D,Smith. I think four mid priced players in def is enough, two def rookies should be alright.

    • Ty vickery says:

      I reckon you need at least 1 premo in the backline. Not sold on petracca (burnt me last year) or Wallis as keepers, get rid of at least 1. I think starting this team is just asking for trouble.

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  43. Prizza says:

    Hey all how many on field rookies are we going with ,i have 1=3=2 with a couple of mid-pricers in defence and a bordeline mid-prem in forward line and hoping the bench is stacked with the next best kids.
    What with still another week of gandering have you all come up with?.

    • Prizza says:

      also a mid in the guts , sorry

    • JohnDJ59 says:

      2-3-0-3 at the moment, which is what I started with, but I am trying to find a mid pricer for F4 that I am happy with.

    • Russty_ says:

      I've got 6 at the moment Prizza 2 back, 2 mid and 2 fwd.

      • Nice_Person says:

        Who's f4

        • Prizza says:

          tossing between sunny and darling, haven't ruled out billings and McCarthy but already stretching it without another mid, have to watch a little longer but they are not rookies so the next or two weeks will prove nothing apart from sunnies fitness and McCarthy's role.

    • JEL says:

      1-4-0-3 at the moment
      Got 4 midpricers in Def & 1 in the Mids as well.

  44. dontblushbaby says:

    I also play NRL SC, there is a NRL Supercoach forum on Fox atm where the so called experts pick their best team , creating a lot of banter with also inside knowledge from ex players , maybes AFL should do the same ? NOTE – NRL starts tomorrow week

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  46. Sharkmove_King says:

    Bellchambers named, Clarke is not. Constable, Clark, Atkins & Fort all named for Geelong

    • KeenButClueless says:

      Miers is also named for Geelong. 123k Forward. Probably at the bottom end of the list you named, but still there. Given the desert that is forward rookies, we should not completely ignore him.

      • Sharkmove_King says:

        Absolutely, not sure how I missed him. Named on a wing too which is promising

      • Catman says:

        Miers won’t play round 1. If geelong don’t bring in anyone else (they probably will) they still need to drop 4. Cats just trying to expose him to the standard, would be baffled if he was named round 1

        • Sharkmove_King says:

          So the 4 to dropout could be O'Connor, Fort, Miers & Z.Guthrie with Clark holding Tuohys place. That would mean Atkins & Constable a fair chance right? Or is there someone else to come in?

    • Russty_ says:

      Looks like they're giving Draper a go this time…be interesting to see how he goes.

    • Lekdog says:

      Geelong have no idea who they want to ruck do they?

  47. Jimmy F says:

    Why is everyone picking Zac Williams

  48. UpBeat says:

    Not sure to be honest maybe price

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  50. ShowMeTheMoney says:

    Laird, Z. Williams, Whitfield, D. Roberton ,Collins , Scrimshaw (Duursma, Burgess

    J. Kelly, P. Cripps, L.Neale, D.Beams, M.Crouch, S. Walsh, Z. Butters, C. Constable, B. Bewley, (N. Hind, T. Watson)

    Gawn, Westhoff, (D.Fort)

    P. Dangerfield, I. Heeney , D Smith , J Corbett , W. Setterfield, N. Balta ,
    (Carvar ,M. Parker. )


    • magic mullet says:

      pretty sure Corbett is injured so id take him out
      watch scrimshaw next game as their might be better options or he may not even play yet
      watch westhoffs role because it doesn't seem the same as last year maybe switch him to Goldstein

  51. Dermin8r says:

    Great pod this week fellas, loved it, long, entertaining and packed with points to ponder. Cheers!

  52. magic mullet says:

    righto I'm starting 1 defensive Premo, why, because i'm obsessed with midpricers that's why, so who gets the nod, laird, Whitfield or sicdog

    • JohnDJ59 says:


    • Ty vickery says:

      If you can use the 40k better elsewhere then Whitfield, if not, laird. Don’t really see much difference in average. Sicily is a flog

      • Hawk131415 says:

        What a great answer! " Sicily is a flog" so dont pick him? you obviously known him personally to say that? and have no idea about SC! Picking people on what you think about them? giving others that terrible advice!!! hope that Magic doesnt listen to that!!!

        • Hawk131415 says:

          Sicily is an great pic, if Clarko keeps him down back at least 90% of game time,

          • Ty vickery says:

            Settle son, clearly struck a nerve. Hawthorn supporters are precious. Did I say don’t pick him? I just said he’s a flog, and he is. Surely this isn’t the first time you’ve heard this? If you are as good at sc as you think you are you would know the other 2 are more reliable picks, I’m not saying he’s a bad pick though.

            • Hawk131415 says:

              No nerve hit, ive heard it a million times, doesnt worry me, every side has one,but he can play, is only young and is AA, who do you support mate? Now your saying Hawthorn supporters are precious? having a dig man?? sounds like jealousy? never said i was good at this game, just saying thats terrible advice!! so, once again, who do you suppoert Ty??

              • Ty vickery says:

                If there was no nerve hit you wouldn’t have responded the way you did, but it’s all good mate I’m not worried by your insecurities. FYI I had him in my team last year, I think he’s a great footballer, he’s just not reliable enough to start at the price he is at. If my advice was so terrible you’re saying that he is a better pick than laird and Whitfield? Very interesting. Looking at everything through brown and gold glasses I see. I suppose you think you’ll win the flag too yeah?

                • Hawk131415 says:

                  Haha, youre obviously jealous mate, once again, who do you support??

                  • Hawk131415 says:

                    so you can mouth off about Hawk supporters but cant say who you support? after being asked 3 times??

                  • Ty vickery says:

                    Lol just change the subject because you’ve been made to look foolish. No point keeping this going because it’s going to turn into a “my team is better than yours” argument that is just pointless. And just so you know I think every team has a bit of jealousy towards hawthorn and the success they’ve had, how could you not? But it doesn’t make my original post any less valid.

                  • Ty vickery says:

                    And just so you know I’m a geelong supporter

                    • Hawk131415 says:

                      HAHAHAHAHAHA, knew it, Salty, 89' and 08' still hurt, youll probably never get over them hey princess,,i dont look foolish at all , but you do now! go back under youre rock!!hahahahahahaha flog

                    • Ty vickery says:

                      hahaha knew you’d respond in that way, brag about 89’ when it is obvious by your maturity that you weren’t around. Dw keep avoiding the original argument and turn it into “hawthorns the best”. Your insecurities are there for all to see

                    • Ty vickery says:

                      Go on tell me how Sicily is a better pick than laird and Whitfield??? I’m waiting……
                      Or even argue how he’s not a flog? Good luck

                    • Gen says:

                      Hawk dude, Sicily being the biggest flog in the league (and maybe the history of the game as we know it), IS, actually SC relevant as said floggishness constantly refers him to the MRP etc. Cant have a premo missing games hey buddy??

                    • Derek says:

                      Sicily will eventually become a forward.

                      that is what he came to the hawks as, and i think as he matures he will become better at it.

                      so much of Dernie in him. i love him (as a hawk supporter)

                    • Hawk131415 says:

                      Gen, id call Duckwood a bigger flog! and no, dont want premos missing games, but a lot do, so goodluck picking a side without any premos missing games, its inevitable?

                    • Hawk131415 says:

                      Not once did i say he was a better pick! false accusations, and you are the one who started with the team talk when saying brown and gold coloured glasses! i was around in 89', and watched it, great game!!! Insecure? thats laughable hahahahah,

                    • Ty vickery says:

                      You’re the one who got defensive over nothing. Notice you bag Selwood and I don’t care haha. I know he plays for free kicks, just like deep down you know Sicily is a flog. If you were there for 89 that makes you at least 29/30, this just makes you look worse! Show a little more maturity and stop trying to pick fights that aren’t there

                    • Hawk131415 says:

                      Move on mate!!

                    • Da_Boysh says:

                      isnt it too early in the year to see this sort of toxicity in the forums. Can we at least wait until round 1?

                    • ThatsGoldJerry says:

                      Well said….fancy having Wee and Pooh as your colours…LOL

                    • Hawk131415 says:

                      And here we go again!!!!

                    • ThatsGoldJerry says:

                      Have a laugh, you win every second Flag….the rest of us haven't had a chance for 20 years

                    • Hawk131415 says:

                      Mate im def having a laugh, cheers,,

          • TommyC99 says:

            Sicily is also little more inconstant than Laird and Whitfield. So if you had to look who you would most likely be able to get cheaper, it was be Sicily. So hence why most would lean towards laird and Whitfield.

            • Hawk131415 says:

              With Smith back in the side will that affect Lairds scores?

              • Hawk131415 says:

                bcausein the two rounds that Smith was back he has scores of 76 and 84

                • Hawk131415 says:

                  sorry, because in the 2 rounds Smith was back Laird only scored 76 and 84?

                  • Browncow says:

                    Laird was a jet before Brodie got hurt. Should be fine Hawk.

                    • Hawk131415 says:

                      yeah Browncow, was just an observation, was wondering on peoples thoughts and giving some info,,

                    • Browncow says:

                      Think Laird is an accumulator and Adelaide wouldn’t see him as their outlet out of the backline so role shouldn’t change. More likely to affect Smith if Laird is missing. My thought is that good players coming in just means a few more points for that team and not much impact on the players around them -unless you lose your spot altogether or say get shuffled out of the doggies midfield for Libba.

        • Ty vickery says:

          I love how me calling sic a flog proves I know nothing about sc…. nice logic!

    • Nice_Person says:

      Laird is proven

    • kevwal says:


    • Russty_ says:

      Reckon I'll take Laird Magic, Smith should be kicking in and Laird should be receiving a lot of them.

    • Sharkmove_King says:

      Laird is the safest, but with probably little to no upside. The other 2 could easily improve their '18 average or could just as easy go backwards if Sicily plays forward and Whitfield gets tagged.

    • ThatsGoldJerry says:

      After reading all of that, I know now why I cant tolerate Hawthorn supporters…You are all Jeff Kennett's in disguise…Go Bombers

  53. Gen says:

    Team im kinda but not really settled on: Thoughts encouraged!

    Laird, Whitfield, Mills (Hore)
    Roberton, Collins, Duursma ( ? )

    Dangerfield, Cripps (Hately)
    Oliver, Neale, M. Crouch (Gibbons)
    Walsh, Constable, Bewley ( ? )

    Grundy, Martin (Clarke)

    Heeney, Smith, Kelly (M. Parker)
    D. Moore, Setterfield, Burgess (Cavarra)

    • Hawk131415 says:

      Put Danger in fwd line mate, gives you another premo in mids, Martin is injured and will miss the first few games,

      • Gen says:

        Im starting danger in the mids because i cant decide on who the top 8 mids will be. Once i get a better idea ill trade and flick him forward. Have replaced Mills with Newman as well. Cheers for the martin info

        • Ty vickery says:

          Not sure about kelly mate, would wanna see him play a bit better this week before locking him in. Not sure his head is in it atm.

          • Gen says:

            Fair shout. Does anyone have relevant info that would encourage me to pick Lewis Pierce ? Ta

            • Billson says:

              Who knows who Saints will play as their no 1 ruck. Longer, Pierce, Marshall all as useful (or useless) as each other.
              Can see all 3 getting games at some point but it's a lottery how long they last in the team.

  54. Lekdog says:

    To everyone posting their teams? Have you checked how your byes look? Seeing a few with a lot of blokes missing from one week or another. I'm actively trying to share the load a bit!

    • Russty_ says:

      Hey Lek, at the moment I'm looking at 20 on in round 12, and 17 in each of the next 2 rounds, It'll no doubt all change after the early season trades though.
      How's yours looking?

    • Billson says:

      3 ways to approach the byes

      1. Have an even thread of premium's throughout the 3 weeks to remain somewhat competitive (Recommended)
      2. Tank 1 week and load up on premiums who all share the same bye (League ONLY, go 2-1 in the 3 weeks)
      3. Disregard the byes, pray to Cardinal Pell and hope for the best

      • JohnDJ59 says:

        I usually go for the even spread, but this year round 13 looks so bad I might as well tank it and have a strong lineup in rounds 12 &14.

    • Derek says:

      the byes were my worst weeks last week. went from 2k to 11k, stuffed my season.

      my problem was just having enough players on the field. Even with decent planning i only managed 17, 16, 16 on the field over the byes. the biggest problem i had was i relyed on rookies to play and they didn't. i had a few SUNS rookies because they already had their bye round 8, and they just didn't get games. I had a couple of premiums also miss a game or two over the byes and i was stuffed.

      Byes will be a bit harder this year with suns and port also missing

      a better go check my team

    • Shake_n_bake says:

      I always plan for the byes! From rd 1.

    • Rick says:

      I believe you should try to win 2/3 bye rounds. If you try and spread the load across 3 bye rounds you put yourself at risk of losing all 3!

    • JohnDJ59 says:

      I should be alright for round 12 and 14, but 13 is a disaster so I might as well tank that one.

    • NoLanguage96 says:

      Forget about the byes. Way too much footy to be played before them

  55. Lekdog says:

    Also, with my Blue tinted glasses, if Cunningham has another blinder in his current role I may be convinced to slot him in at D4/5 at $250k.

    To everyone who I've said he's too raw to select, I'm a hypocrite.

  56. BlueBaggerJosh says:


    Swinging Sicily, old man Hurn, zzzz Williams, Burnman smith, Tin Woodman Roberton, Harry Jones (Burgess, Hore)

    Ah Macrae, Crippa, Clarry, Bont, Steele, Libba, Walsh, Constable (Golds, Gibbons, Ross)

    King kong grundy (RIP), Goldy (loophole Bines)

    Danger, Heeney, Ainsworth, Setters, Drew, Balta (Parker, cavarra)

    Lets see how much it changes after JLT 2!

    • Derek says:

      don't see Hurn in many teams, what do you like?

    • Ty vickery says:

      Bont, macrae and Libba is an interesting one. Ainsworth could be the breakout forward this year, risky, but could pay off big. Watch him closely this week!

  57. R Mac says:

    Would anyone consider Preuss at r3? Not many talking about him as an option but will make money at 220k and seems to have best job security of any rookie priced ruck.

    Fort looked terrible jlt 1.
    Clark / Draper only relevant if Bellchambers gets injured.
    Very hard to believe Archie could keep Martin out of the team long enough to make money

    • KeenButClueless says:

      Merit in the call. Is back up, and is even more relevant if you have Gawn as well. Only trouble is that it is a lot of cash on the pine.

    • Derek says:

      too much cash on bench. If people are against having Walsh at $200k on field, you wouldn't have $200k at R3.

      what about R2? that is something i would do.

    • Lazza says:

      I thought Preuss was terrible in JLT1 as welll..

    • Maverick_ says:

      Agree with Derek here you can’t have that much $$$ sitting at your R3. For me it was fort or a fwd/ruck at 102k for R3 for the possibliltity of playing lobb or hoff fwd if that doesn’t happen I’ll take a VC loophole anyway

    • Lekdog says:

      Now looks like he might not even be in Melbourne's plans

  58. ShowMeTheMoney says:

    Laird, Z. Williams, Whitfield, D. Roberton ,Collins , Scrimshaw (Duursma, Burgess

    J. Kelly, P. Cripps, L.Neale, D.Beams, M.Crouch, S. Walsh, Z. Butters, C. Constable, B. Bewley, (N. Hind, T. Watson)

    Gawn, Westhoff, (D.Fort)

    P. Dangerfield, I. Heeney , D Smith , J Corbett , W. Setterfield, N. Balta ,
    (Carvar ,M. Parker. )


    • Derek says:

      don't mind the Hoff at R2. obviously looking at swinging him into the forward line when you bring Grundy in

      Kelly is in my team, but am worry about his injury last year and if he is over it.

      Beams will struggle to be top 8 mid this year.

      depends on forward rookies how deep you go in forwards

  59. RoyWetard says:

    I've got 6 spots filled in a tipping league so far. For those interested, code is 220013.

  60. Kjta says:

    Hi guys I have 1 spot left in a $50 cash league and a $100 cash league, If interested please email [email protected] I can send you league details and prize structure etc. I have run league for several years and can show you past winner and results 🙂

  61. James says:

    I can't settle with a team, can I please have some advice on what I should do to make this lineup better. The forward line is where I'm particularly struggling to improve

    DEF: Laird, Whitfield, Witherden, B.Smith, Roberton, Collins (Clark, Hore)
    MID: Cripps, Kelly, Neale, Dusty, Libba, Walsh, Butters, Gibbons (Constable, Hind, Stocker)
    RUC: Gawn, Goldy (Clarke)
    FWD: Dangerfield, Heeney, McLean, Setterfield, Parker, Cavarra (Burgess, Mosquito)

    $55,200 in the bank

    • Harry says:

      Personally I'd try get one more gun premo in the guts 4 seems to light with a midprice risk at M5 but just my opinion.
      It's still a pretty solid side James.

    • Twilightingale says:

      Witherden to Williams, gain 50k
      B Smith to rookie

      Use the money to upgrade your forward line or upgrade Libba or Walsh

  62. David Strauss says:

    Can see why the site has lost a lot of listeners and viewers

  63. Finnius says:

    Is anyone up for joining a $60 cash league?

    Rounds 1 – 17 – Weekly High scorer $20

    Overall winner $420 (+named on the trophy)

    runner up $220

    9th place $60

    Still have a few places to fill so let me know if you are keen.

    • hedski says:

      Would have jumped in a few weeks ago Finn but maxed out now.
      Can you tell me how emergencies work in the draft league mate?
      Can we set them? Is there an auto emergency?
      First season of draft so I'm clueless, cheers bud.

      • gator59 says:

        Finn does have the power as league commissioner to enable Auto emergency which he should do to make it fair on all teams playing

  64. BEN C says:

    Who should I get out of Mundy , R Gray or D Smith

    • Ja191 says:

      i like mundy because of pod aspect. wouldn't touch robbie unless he plays mid and smith will definitely drop in price and you can pick him up then

  65. Brn says:

    Laird, williams, newman, roberton, clark, watson (jones, hore)

    Macrae, Cripps, Oliver, Neale, coniglio, libba, walsh, constable (gibbons, bewley, golds)

    Grundy, Gawn (sweet)

    Danger, heeney, greene, setterfield, burgess, balta (drew, parker)

    Could anyone provide some detailed or expert thoughts? I could downgrade newman to collins but i sortof like the potential of my pod setup and whatbit provides in the mids. ??

    • Hawk131415 says:

      Like the side BRN, oly thing id look at is the Defs, but could work, watch JLT 2 for both Newman and Roberton, either upgrade one and bring in another rook? but a nice side man,,

  66. Shake_n_bake says:

    Hey Gator, is your draft league already full?

    • gator59 says:

      jump in Shake someone jumped in that I didn't invite

      • TRIGGA_HAPPY says:

        Hey Gator.

        Thanks for the invite to your draft.

        But will pass this time around..
        10 leagues, 3 drafts and probably a fantasy team will be hard enough. 🙄

        Have fun though draft away.

      • Maverick_ says:

        Unfortunately I’m out also sorry gator. I won’t have any reception Tuesday morn onward and unsure when I’ll be back amongst it. All the best for the season ahead though mate.

        • gator59 says:

          Hi Mav, As long as you have done a draft list you will get auto picks.. Please don't pull the pin.. See what you end up with and there is a free agents pool to pick from and also you can trade with other teams… Cheers Gator

  67. Lazza says:

    Hey guys and gals, I was just mucking around with the team configurator with a team based purely on Rory Lobb's SC score of 114 in JLT1. Note: this is not my team, but thought it might generate some discussion .. or laughter … Here 'tis:

    DEF – Laird, Whitfield, Crisp, Williamz, Collins, JClark, HJones, FWatson
    MID – Macrae, Cripps, Oliver, Neale, Taranto, Libba, Butters, Hately, Constable, Bewley, Golds
    RUC – Gawn, LOBB, Sweet (loophole).
    FWD – Danger, Wallis, Greene, Setterfield, Corbett, Balta, Drew, Parker
    Cash: $7,700

    So, that then has me looking at potential improvements – by moving Taranto to Walsh (I'm still not convinced choosing Walsh is wise) we get Goldy for Robb and LLoyd for Crisp. No need to touch the rookies – they are solid and locked if they get to R1.

    • JohnDJ59 says:

      So you would have Libba at M5, I looked at that the other day, it lasted a few seconds, if you have Libba, which I don't, I think he needs to be at M6, like you already have.

      • Lazza says:

        I agree… I’m not even sure Libba is. Good pick… it’s Ben a few years since his glory days…

  68. Maverick_ says:

    i can't believe this but i am starting too cool on walsh, he's my M7
    He looks incredible but that price is starting to put me off now.
    I'd be happy enough to field hately M7 and constable/hind M8.
    walsh -> T.Atkins/Gibbons/duursma and bank 70-100k.

    • Hawk131415 says:

      Im siilar Mav but he looks the real deal, i think you'd kick yourself if you later on if you didn't grab him, thats my thought process on the Walsh matter???

  69. gator59 says:

    Hi Tophawks your Guns and Rookies only has 17 players… I'm not sure if you know or not… Cheers Gator

  70. Maverick_ says:


    Z.Williams "managed".
    Sicily named on the back flank
    T.Greene named for GWS
    Jones & Golds named emergencies for hawks (was eyeing jones off as def rookie)
    Nat Fyfe NOT named.
    Cavarra on the doggies extended bench
    Gawn named Pruess 2nd emergency
    Viney not playing, dang it! (wanted him to lineup to see brayshaws role & output)
    C.Mills on the ball (promising)
    Zorko injured
    Goldy omitted.

  71. BEN C says:

    Who should I get out of Mundy,R Gray or D Smith

  72. Hawk131415 says:

    Game time,,,, really interested in Ridley, and named in the guts, wait and see,

    • Maverick_ says:

      his in everything early 6 touches, a goal, a mark and a tackle.
      just such an awkward price unfortunately

  73. PotatoeSpotter says:

    Merrett having a better 1st quarter than he did last week. He's not on the ground but at least he's not embarrassing himself

  74. Ja191 says:

    Jeez I’m liking the look of constable, kid can play

    • GunsNRooks says:

      Agree. If we put the rookie limit at 250k and ignore the fact that they've played in years past a pure Guns and Rookies line up is very possible, so far

  75. BargainFinder says:

    Ridley still sitting at D5 he might be the bargain defender of 2019 unless cuningham backs up his effort from last week

  76. Nice_Person says:

    D Smith is a dud pick this year

    • Rick Grimes says:

      Yea, he's in my side but I'm struggling to think why.

    • SCGenius says:

      Yep Shiela was always going to spell the end for Smith in SC

    • AuroraBorealis?! says:

      Kelly surely gets a look at f3 now, only issue is he shares the bye with dangerfield

    • Maverick_ says:

      yup. not once all preseason did smith cross my mind.
      I have my F1-3 locked in

      • Nice_Person says:

        Who's 3

        • Maverick_ says:

          i have danger heeney & TKelly and they are pretty well set.
          I'm not sure i have anyone else on my radar who can change that 3 before R1.
          I will admit though i am intrigued by caleb daniel but i'm not sure he can dish up what he did V the GC week in week out but will watch his JLT2 very closely.

          fingers crossed Kelly is playing well tonight.

  77. PotatoeSpotter says:

    Merrett on the ground and Patch reaches for the tissues, sadly for bombers it's only to mop up the tears

  78. PODperhaps says:

    The man that was named after his mums vacuum cleaner is looking like a smart smokey 1.15ppm last week and killing it this week

  79. Sixtybloody6 says:

    GNR the most popular strategy in SC because the cost of a player means he WILL score great right? Wrong! If there is value in someone then pick them. Dismissing someone from selection because their price tag isn't in the premo status isn't the way to go from going through years of SC.

    Plenty of examples where premos don't start well and drop. Plenty of mid pricers that start great and end up being a straight swap for a "premo"

    Look at the expensive rookie article proven year after year that just because they are expensive means they are better. The cheap rookies appreciate alot quicker. FACT.

    Point being picking mid pricers is equally as important as picking the right premos. Look at their value and history, as their price tag isn't a guarantee on points. You may feel more confident leading up to the season but how many years has this strategy worked? Looking for a different result by doing the exact same thing is bashing your head against the wall.

    • SmartR's says:

      G'day Captain Obvious how's the family?

    • Maverick_ says:

      Roberton, Williams & Libba my only midpricers this season i reckon..
      Currently on the fence about taranto but the price is awkward and don't get a look at him with kelly in the team.
      Aaaaaaaaannnndddddd i am thinking about going walsh -> bewley/gibbons as like you said they appreciate in value quicker.
      Unsure how long Walsh can actually last before burning out..

      Trying not to get sucked into b.smith, b.crouch, greene, newman etc.

      • MrAgreeable says:

        I reckon Bsmith is pretty safe based on what Laird had to say on afl site, Crouch is more fragile than some JR user egos and not sold on Newman until I know what simmo will be doing. Do like Roberton, Williams, Libba, Ridley and philips

      • Sixtybloody6 says:

        Greene is named tomorrow which is very surprising. He still worries me because last year he banged out a 130 and missed the next 3, but……he is proven. So plenty of value, but…..has only played 1 full season from memory.

        Smith has a 93 career best avg, with brown out for 2 months he is in for me. Crows will look for him at every opportunity and I can guarantee he will take kick ins and running 15 before launching to the center circle.

        Libba is a lock. Williams too. Roberton needs to tonne otherwise I can't fit him in.

        I'll be going ZERO expensive rookies. Except setterfield if he's named. 20k is nothing and can't strengthen any line. Taranto will break out but isn't top 8 so that's a tough choice.

        I'll be watching Newman very closely this weekend, his ceiling is very appealing and looks to take the dochs role.

    • JohnDJ59 says:

      I'm trying to go for value this year, have four mid priced players at the moment and my premos are more the 550k types, Cripps, Oliver and Danger are the only 600k+ players I have. I do have some high priced rookies, but that is mainly due to there not being a hell of a lot of cheap ones, apart from the ones on my bench.

      • One Touch Wonder says:

        Am I only one with JOM?

        Dangerfield is my only player over $600k

        Have only 4 rookies on field

  80. Hawk131415 says:

    This is a decent game of footy, some boys are keeping their spots,

  81. Hawk131415 says:

    Not supercoach related, but how goods the kid calling it, awesome

  82. TRIGGA_HAPPY says:

    Yabblett moving out of the guts is looking like a good move for Jelwood.

    Smashing JLT.

  83. Nick says:

    Thoughts on this team gents:

    Llouyd withfiled crisp williams collins rookie
    Crips oliver neale cogs libba welshrookie rookie
    grundy gawn
    danger kelly billings setterfiled rookie rookie

  84. Lazza says:

    Looks like I won’t have a single Bomber in my team come R1… Selwood certainly way ahead of Merrett.. I’m considering him in place of Dusty, but will wait for the Tigers v a Hawks game..

  85. AuroraBorealis?! says:

    Going to have to decide between Walsh and Mills or Libba and Roberton before the start of the season, hopefully JLT2 can shine some light on my conundrum. Who would you guys take out of the two options?

    • Maverick_ says:

      If Roberton plays JLT2 loose and not locking down take libba & Roberton

      • AuroraBorealis?! says:

        Yeah, my main concern is that with Jake Carlisle out for most of the season that Roberton will always be playing some sort of lockdown role, with Savage and Webster running off of half back.

    • Twilightingale says:

      I'd almost go Walsh and Robbo

      • Nice_Person says:

        Walsh over libba? Cmon thats just silly

        • Twilightingale says:

          How come? Walsh 100k cheaper, will make more money and appreciate in value quicker than Libba.

          Don't understand the love for Libba unless your blindly optimistic he can return to his form from 5 years ago which was in a completely different bulldogs team and very forgiving that his last 2 full seasons he averaged 90 and 80.

      • AuroraBorealis?! says:

        I can't imagine picking Walsh over Libba myself mate, barring an injury in JLT Libba looks fit and can easily average 100+. The idea for both of those players is for them to make money, i think they will increase by a similar amount overall, but Libba will net you more points. You've gotta pick libba there

    • Sharkmove_King says:

      Walsh & Mills for me. Although having all 4 wouldn't be so bad

  86. Hawk131415 says:

    Is Dahlhous back? at $481,300 POD??

    • Prizza says:

      Stop swearing John

    • Ty vickery says:

      Had a good game but doubt he does it every week. He’s definitely a pod though if you are confident on him.

    • Locked and Loaded says:

      Actually he’s 418k

    • Carl says:

      Nope don't pick him

    • Hawk131415 says:

      Im not confident at all, thought the new team and surroundings might spark him, was interested in peoples thoughts?

    • The Ranger says:

      He looked pretty good last night eh? The whole Cats fwd line looked pretty good.
      I wasn't going anywhere near him but I have to admit I'm tempted now, we all know what he's capable of, it's just a matter of whether he can do it consistently.
      Maybe he feels he has a point to prove?
      My fwd line is 3-0-3 at the moment but with the fwd rookies being thin on the ground I might have to look at adding a mid pricer somehow…

      • Hawk131415 says:

        I think he a hold and see atm Ranger, didnt do much in JLT1, FWD sucks this year more than before, Have 2-1-3 atm, but swapping between that and 3-0-3,, might just forget fwds this year? LOL

  87. SCGenius says:

    It's official Zac Merrett is a supercoach SPUD!
    Ridley and Atkins, welcome to my team
    153 – Joel Selwood
    128 – Patrick Dangerfield
    118 – Luke Dahlhaus
    110 – Tim Kelly
    109 – Rhys Stanley
    107 – Harry Taylor
    91 – Jack Henry
    80 – Gary Rohan
    80 – Tom Atkins
    79 – Mitch Duncan
    79 – Tom Hawkins
    74 – Mark Blicavs
    74 – Gary Ablett
    72 – Cam Guthrie
    72 – Esava Ratugolea
    67 – Jordan Clark
    61 – Charlie Constable
    59 – Brandan Parfitt
    59 – Sam Menegola
    37 – Lachie Henderson
    35 – Mark O’Connor
    31 – Tom Stewart
    31 – Gryan Miers
    20 – Quinton Narkle
    17 – Zach Guthrie
    13 – Darcy Fort

    98 – Dyson Heppell
    94 – Jordan Ridley
    88 – Adam Saad
    81 – Dylan Shiel
    79 – Tom Bellchambers
    76 – Michael Hurley
    71 – Andy McGrath
    71 – Anthony McDonald-Tipungwuti
    63 – Zach Merrett
    61 – Aaron Francis
    61 – Mitch Brown
    54 – Darcy Parish
    53 – Matt Guelfi
    52 – Jake Stringer
    51 – Kyle Langford
    51 – Connor McKenna
    48 – David Zaharakis
    48 – Orazio Fantasia
    48 – David Myers
    47 – Mark Baguley
    45 – Devon Smith
    40 – Joe Daniher
    38 – Patrick Ambrose
    12 – Sam Draper
    7 – Brayden Ham
    6 – Dylan Clarke

  88. magic mullet says:

    kelly or menagola

    • REIDY says:

      Hard one Kelly for me

    • I have had both but Kelly was good for me last year.Menegola scored 85 in half a game JLT 1 though. the extra 40k is handy KELLY

    • Beezneez says:

      Trying to decide the same after contemplating flicking Smith (after dumping Dunkley). Was trying to get Menegola in from the start but not enough $$$. Still can't decide but like NDD says the lesser price of Kelly will probably be the deciding factor.

  89. Brn says:

    Is four midpricers too much?

    Currently have brodie smith, roberton, libba, and greene.

    Im hoping two of these will score well enough to become premiums, and believe all will at the very least be great stepping stones. Thoughts on how many midpricers is too much?

    In other news, does whitfield come into closr consideration again considering ward is injured?

    • Derek says:

      I think Taranto gets the bump

    • Russty_ says:

      I don't think 4 is too much, I have 5 1/2 at the moment…lol

    • Maverick_ says:

      I think 4 is okay!
      I have 3 but still have Taranto, BCrouch, Roberton & Greene all pushing for a place in my 22.
      Watching JLT very closely this weekend.

      • Russty_ says:

        I reckon Roberton is a must have at his price Mav, should make a great stepping stone while scoring decently.

        • Maverick_ says:

          I thought that russty but then the unsureness of his job role puts me off.
          if he plays free n does as he likes then happy days but if he even shows a small stint of a lock down role with no carlisle returning anytime soon then i'd feel more confident in starting a rookie.
          I'll be watching his JLT closely.

  90. Ron says:

    Where do you find Time On Ground stats for the JLT games?

    • AuroraBorealis?! says:

      Fanfooty.com has the stats live during the games. You can also look at them upon completion

      • Ron says:

        Thanks mate

      • Hawk131415 says:

        AB, any idea why the SC column is blank during the live games??

        • AuroraBorealis?! says:

          I wont pretend to understand completely how fanfooty procures it's live supercoach scores, but i imagine it has something to do with tapping into the live feed provided by the herald sun during regular season games. Because the herald sun aren't showing the scores live then fanfooty can't display them live either

    • Bells.com says:

      AFL.COM – the extended stat tab.

  91. BEN C says:

    Who should I get out of Mundy,R Gray , D Smith or T Kelly or Daulhouse

    • Derek says:

      I have Mundy ahead just.

      Gray i worry about his hammys, Smith is getting squeezed out of the midfield by Shield and mcgrath, Keyy is too expensive for what he will produce and dalhaus will play as a forward next the Gaz.

  92. Maverick_ says:

    bloody pumped for tonights JLT fellas
    GWS v Radelaide.

    So many SC relevant players on peoples radars:
    BSmith, RLaird, BCrouch, MCrouch, TGreene, TTaranto, LWhitfield,
    SCognilio, RSloane, JHately & Heater for those with a serious set of plums.

    Who are people locking in and shortlisting that i may have missed?

    • Hawk131415 says:

      All the above Mav but my plums arent that big!

      • Maverick_ says:

        Haha neither are mine Hawk!
        BSmith, Laird, Hately & MCrouch locked.
        Taranto VERY close to gettin a guernsey too.
        Greene I just cannot trust i really want him but i know his body will fail and will miss weeks

    • going to be a great game for s c .Bcrouch and Taranto for me Mav

      • Maverick_ says:

        Both are very interesing aren't they NDD.
        I will be watching taranto VERY closely tonight i'll pay the extra 70k for a bloke whose body i trust more.
        Callan Ward going down with an injury will help Taranto's mintutes also. If he goes 110+ tonight ill have to pick him

    • Russty_ says:

      Hey Mav, locking in Laird, Smith, Williams, Greene for now, was looking at B.Crouch for awhile but he's a big injury risk going fwd, might change my mind tonight if he has another blinder though.

      • Maverick_ says:

        Looks to be the same as me Russty.
        Laird has asked Pike for midfield time through the week so that could be interesting! follow closely tonight i think
        i do not have greene atm but has been in out and over the preseason he just cannot stay on the park whether that injury or suspension.
        Just gone 3-0-3 up fwd now.

    • Derek says:

      i will be watching every step that greene takes

      • Maverick_ says:

        as long as it's only steps and not flying fists (or kicks) Derek.
        He could be value if he stays fit & away from the tribunal

    • Beezneez says:

      I have 6 of those atm plus Kelly. Cogs Kelly Laird and Whitfield from the start. Will be interesting to see if Kelly has any effect on Taranto's output although Kelly may get limited game time but then again GWS might want to get game time into him. B Crouch may become M Crouch. Greene is on my never again list (for now). I'm interested to see how Chayce Jones goes – can play and Crows top pick (no.9) in the draft. Could be a round one bolter but the Crows usually bring their rooks through the SANFL.

      • Maverick_ says:

        Kelly not playing any JLT at all is a big no no for me beez same as with fyfe.. altohugh saying that i like fyfe and his early fixture.
        I'd feel more confident in neale or banking some cash & selecting a dusty or yeo.
        But Kelly may come straight back in and go bang bang bang and knock out 3 scores 120+ haha

        • Beezneez says:

          My bad. This morning I looked at a site that had Kelly named. Previously I thought he was out. I will be replacing him as I did with Fyfe. Plenty of suitable replacements i.e Neale Dusty M Crouch Yeo or Taranto. Thanks for pointing that out Mav.

  93. what happened to Sholl

  94. Nice_Person says:

    If Brad crouch looks good tonight I may need to move libba to m7

    • Maverick_ says:

      jeez thats deep NP!
      Especially when the bulk of our cash generation comes from midfield rooks..
      but i am sure you know this

    • kevwal says:

      Still only running 2 premos in the fwd NP? One way you could afford Libba at M7?

      • Nice_Person says:

        I've gone Greene at f3 now he's been named for tonight

        • kevwal says:

          I have as well, too good to pass up. Means only four keepers in def.

          • Nice_Person says:

            Defence has plenty of value no harm in picking some stepping stones there this year. I've gone crow heavy, lots of home games and last bye

            • kevwal says:

              Have gone with a western flavour, Hurn/Ryan combo, expect both to perform well this year.

              • Nice_Person says:

                I had Ryan locked, then quickly had him out after that jlt

                • Maverick_ says:

                  my structure is:
                  DEF 1-3-2
                  MID: 5-1-2
                  RUCK: 2-0-0
                  FWD: 3-0-3

                  i cant settle on it though with so much value down and little rookie value around atm

                  • kevwal says:

                    Very similar now Mav, mid and ruck the same, still settling on the fwd/def (as usual).

                  • JohnDJ59 says:

                    I've had to change mine around, I now have Def: 0-4-2 Mid: 5-0-3 Ruck: 2-0-1 Fwd: 2-1-3

                    • Maverick_ says:

                      No premo down back?
                      so ideally you want 3 of them 4 midprcers to finish premo by seasons end?
                      You dont want to use three or four trades on them down the track and treat them as stepping stones do you.

                    • JohnDJ59 says:

                      I expect three of them to become keepers, one is a stepping stone. Will look to get LLoyd, Laird, Simmo in as upgrades.

                • kevwal says:

                  I don't like Ross either, but cannot see him wasting Ryan again. JLT2 may be a little different. Had Ryan locked the minute Connor Blakely got injured.

    • Hawk131415 says:

      Wow thats deep, i dont get how some of you guys are getting the lines your getting? maybe calling midpricers premos??

      • Maverick_ says:

        500k+ is a premo imo

        • Hawk131415 says:

          That was my next Question, what do you boys class as a premo and also, Got to start McCrae,Cripps,Oliver,Then ,,,,,,,

          • Maverick_ says:

            well i don't know if i'm starting macrae…
            at the moment it is

            Macrae & Walsh
            Neale & Libba

            I find coniglio good value though after the big 3 you've named

      • Nice_Person says:

        Right now I've got
        Macrea, cripps, Oliver, cogs, m crouch, b crouch, libba

        • Hawk131415 says:

          Hows your other lines NP? im thinking 5 premo and Libba in mid is too deep considering there is more rooks in that area, unless (like me atm) dont care too much about the fwds??Grundy Gawn set/forget, 1-3-2 defs, 2-1-3 fwd, atm?

        • Maverick_ says:

          with that midfield you've gone very light down back and forward im guessing..
          because that is seriously deep.

    • Beezneez says:

      B Crouch was awesome last week and looks like he's started the way he finished last week

  95. Maverick_ says:

    Anyone play AFL fantasy?

    • Russty_ says:

      Yeah Mav..I do both every year.

    • KeenButClueless says:

      Me too. Was hoping that being rubbish at SC might mean that I was ok at Fantasy. Turns out that probably the reasons I am rubbish at one are also the reasons I am rubbish at the other

      • Hawk131415 says:


      • Russty_ says:

        A new year Keen, a chance to not be as rubbishy as in the past :)…as some of the other blokes said, pick guys who get touches, doesn't matter if they butcher the ball, and sometimes ya need to do 3 trades to get the guy you want in over 2 weeks, doesn't matter cause it's unlimited.

    • Maverick_ says:

      I just signed up. my goodness i'm in well over me head here.
      scoring is obviously alot different to SC!
      Should you structure your team much like SC or?

      • Nice_Person says:

        Pick players that just get touches. Doesn't matter what they do with it

      • Sharkmove_King says:

        You have 2 trades every week so you can be a little.more risky. Brad Crouch would be a no brainer. Don't pick key position players even moreso than SC. Pick as many midfielders as possible (ie Mills) Outside midfielders do just as well if not better than inside

      • Hawk131415 says:

        Massively different game mate, rooks start at $170

        • Hawk131415 says:

          But get trades all year long, not 30, and other differences, a few years back a guy won both SC and Fantasy!!

    • Russty_ says:

      Prices start changing from the 1st week too Mav…and no rolling lockout, once your captain's picked that's it..and no loopholing.

    • Beezneez says:

      What Russty said. I used to play both but gave fantasy away as it was doing my head in playing two different formats. IMO SC is the far superior format. A lot of players will score better in one format over the other. If you want advice for fantasy DT Talk is the go to site.

      • Beezneez says:

        Ps among others. One advantage of the no rolling lockout is you don't have to worry about checking for late outs and scrambling to adjust your team if needed.

    • Hawk131415 says:

      Yeah kind off

  96. JLT has cooked me says:

    Community Bruest and Walsh or Greene and B Crouch? or am i nuts for considering any?

  97. Yeahnah says:

    Does anyone know why J.Kelly hasn’t played any preseason games? Is he under an injury cloud?

  98. Michael says:

    Crows midfield going to be a ton of points there.

  99. TOPHAWK1 says:

    Brad Crouch and Brodie Smith now both LOCKED in the Tophawks side. I have seen enough.

    • Russty_ says:

      Sloane and Laird looking pretty good too Hawk…you running with Laird this year to start?

      • TOPHAWK1 says:

        Not at this stage Russty. I have to keep the byes in mind and I am looking at a slightly different back line this year. If I tell you, I am gonna have to —- you!! LOL Pumped for the upcoming season mate.

        • Russty_ says:

          Fair enough mate haha, some secrets need to be kept!…Know what you mean about the byes, my round 12 has 50 playing and my next 2, have bugger all, gonna have to do some planning and serious trading come round 13-14.

          • TOPHAWK1 says:

            I will give you a little hint Russty. I am starting with more mid pricers this year. There are some amazing mid priced player opportunities. My gut tells me I have to tap into some of them. Now normally, more than two mid pricers is scorned upon. My gut reckons 2019 is a year that if you pick the mid pricers wisely, you can kick butt in 2019. If you choose poorly, you will get smashed. Gotta risk it for the biskit!!

            • Russty_ says:

              Too right…I'm going 6 1/2 midpricers this year…should be a challenging and enjoyable year regardless of results.

    • Never been keen on too many midpricers and still dont but Libba and crouch are forcing our hands. A couple i still dont like Smith and Greene High price rooks are a no go also

  100. Tommo09 says:

    Who of these midpricers are good picks? Mills Newman Petracca
    Also what about O’Meara? Is he a decent pick?

    I didn’t get around to watching the JLT so I haven’t seen too much of the rookies either. Not much time lately 😬

    • TOPHAWK1 says:

      Right now Nic Newman and Callum Mills would be my preferred mid pricers out of those 4. JOM should do well also without Titch. Cheers mate.

      • Tommo09 says:

        Thanks for that. I am a big fan of Mills but was a bit worried about his role. And now that Newman is at a new club his reliability should improve

    • Russty_ says:

      Don't forget Williams, Roberton, Witherden, B.Crouch, Libba and Greene Tommo, food for thought.

  101. Jack says:

    Imagine a full mid price backline of Witherden, Williams, Mills, Newman, Smith, Roberton.

    • Hawk131415 says:

      Not Roberton, but the rest is interesting, Ballsy

    • KeenButClueless says:

      I am Witherdon, Williams, Smith and Roberton. Have Clark at D5, but Derek has scared me a little there.

      • Russty_ says:

        Could always go Burgess or Collins instead Keen, not sure about Quaynor yet..he looked a bit flustered last game. Duursma?

        • KeenButClueless says:

          Duursma could be the one! At the moment it’s Burgess D6, McKay and Hore on the bench. Would love Watson to be named. Could fit him in nicely!

        • Prizza says:

          To me Quaynor doesn't look ready rusty, as much as i like him to be

          • Russty_ says:

            Agree Prizza, he seemed a bit panicky…understandable being a rooky under the big lights. A real indicator for me is how a rook performs under pressure for the first time, aka Walsh, that kid just understands Footy, and seems to know what to do.
            Selwood was the same when he came into the big show.

  102. Hawk131415 says:

    Looking like a Crouch Double? could you pull that off??

  103. Rick Grimes says:

    Not sure what he's scoring, but Cummings looks an option. Elevated price mind you.

  104. dontblushbaby says:

    Knob Head Toby in cotton wool , has he done enough to picked for R1? not for me unless convinced otherwise

    • Russty_ says:

      As long as he doesn't Karate kick the Uber Driver in the Head on the way home I'm in DBB…probably regret it though…lol

  105. Russty_ says:

    Is Gibbons a no go for most people now that he'll probably be cast in the role as small forward?
    Who would be better options other than Bewley, Atkins, Constable etc ?
    Not really considering Caldwell or Hately…already have Walsh.

    • Nice_Person says:

      He's a bench option that will make cash

    • dontblushbaby says:

      The Rookies are a raffle, the ones who we expect to get named R1 don't, so we go to plan B,happens every year but this year is the same as last atm ,not really many emerging

    • Sharkmove_King says:

      If he was 123k I'd say no…but at 102k I think you can sneak him in at M11

    • TOPHAWK1 says:

      Hately and Caldwell were exposed tonight. Against decent opposition they did not cut the mustard. If they are named early in season proper, then yeah, I will have another look.

      That said, I reckon Gibbons at $102K is relevant if named for round 1. Not sure what he will do in JLT2, but if he contributes, then he has to be a cash cow option.

    • Hawk131415 says:

      Mate ive ben thinking this, to me,games will be few and far between, and wont score enough to make enough coin, gone from my side,

      • Hawk131415 says:

        Is he best 22 every week? i dont think so!

        • Sharkmove_King says:

          Not a Carlton supporter but I went to a few of their games last year and one of the main areas where I think they were/are behind other teams is forward pressure.

          I haven't been a massive fan of Pickett or Garlett. If Gibbons tackles and chases well, I think he plays every week. Whether he scores well enough for a mid spot is another thing, but at 102k I'm prepared to risk it.

          • Hawk131415 says:

            But does he get that spot every week? or even from the start? hes a backup! others will get the call up before him, watch JLT2, but im leaning off him atm,

    • Running out of rooks now Russty Caldwell Hately hind all gone Gibbons is a possibility might be wise to look at dpp's and a swinging loop like Hill from GWS ,wont play yet but saves a trade when he appears Problem is the forwards are thin as well Kelly slaughtered the ball with the cats and it is hard to find a dpp cheap enough

  106. TelescopicCox says:

    Before tonight I had 1 crows players. Now I’m trying to scramble. Which combo do we like better:

    A) Walsh (M6), Gawn, Darling (F3)
    B) B.Crouch (M6), Goldy, Greene (F3)

    Mid price madness is getting to me

  107. Harrison says:

    Greene done enough for us tonight?
    Didn’t watch the game but only got 42 DT so maybe 50 SC.
    What was his TOG%

  108. Sharkmove_King says:

    Watching this game I was trying to decide who makes my midfield out of Crouch x2 and Sloane. Thinking I can only fit one in. M.Crouch was the front-runner, so he's a lock now. But how do I leave the other 2 out? I'm Keen to start Dusty and Cripps and I see Kelly as a good upgrade target. How many midfielders from the same bye round is too many? Is B.Crouch cheap enough to be a stepping stone?

    • Hawk131415 says:

      For me, Dusty no, wait till tomorrow! Kelly from gws?? if so, thats a no too

      • LOL says:

        Did you hit your head? Dusty won a Brownlow 2017, popular pick for a reason, value. He said kelly is an upgrade target, which for 90% of sc players he will be. If you don’t know what you’re talking about why give advice?

      • Tom says:

        Why is kelly not a good upgrade target? Better be careful not to give bad advice

    • Derek says:


      He is cheap for the points he can score.

      In a good team

      Has a brother who really likes to handball (to him)


      Not cheap enough to make much cash

      He won’t be a top 8 midfielder.

      He has an injury cloud all over him

      Gibbs and Greenie didn’t play in either JLT, both will take points from him

      It was JLT. The real thing will be at another level

      Crows played Port and GWS, both teams had no decent ruck, made it easy to get ball.

      I’m staying with Libba at M6

      • Beezneez says:

        Hey Derek, Gibbs played last night scored 88 SC points (106 fantasy) with 27 disposals. B Crouch is a good player. Hopefully over his injuries and has a point to prove. Agree Libba is likely to appreciate more and quicker but he has also had his fair share of injuries. I currently have both brothers but wouldn't have had Brad if Fyfe or Kelly had played. Will look at rest of JLT games and may replace him with another. Ross said in this morning's paper Fyfe is good to go.

  109. Hawk131415 says:

    Greene a little disapointing

    • Sharkmove_King says:

      Yeah don't think I can pick him off that game time

      • Maverick_ says:

        39 off 32%TOG. Rd 1 rolls around his playing 75% and scoring 85 + Cameron just managing him tonight to get him through unscathed, he’s better for the run. For 350k I’ll take that he will only improve his tank. Worked very hard too chasing back on defence.

        • Sixtybloody6 says:

          Na. He will play 60% and gradually get more and more time IF they don't rest him or he gets suspended. Can't pick the flog tbh

  110. Rocksta_ says:

    Apart for the round 1 Rookie Tweeks, I’m now pretty set with my team and structure I think.
    Pretty happy with that. How’s everybody else shaping up ? Settled or still swapping premo’s and midpricers in and out?

    • Nice_Person says:

      How you structuring up back?
      I'm starting to think starting the guys under 500 is the move

      • Rocksta_ says:

        The only mid pricers in my team are in the backline: Williams and Roberton. Too much value to ignore. Hard choice between Roberton and Smith, but I reckon Roberton is the go.
        I’m banking on both Williams and Roberton being season long keepers. At the very least, I’ll upgrade if required after the rest of my team is full premo.
        That’s the plan anyway

        • Nice_Person says:

          Who else do you have up back? Smith looks in great touch, and the likes of mills and withers could be top 6-8

          • Rocksta_ says:

            I have Laird and Whitfield

          • Rocksta_ says:

            I don’t like Midpricers as a general rule unless they had an injury affected season the year before, or I can see a breakout season on the horizon.
            Only other midpricer I’d consider is Greene in the forward line but his price makes it very hard to fit into my starting structure.

          • JohnDJ59 says:

            I like your thinking NP, my top four defenders at the moment are Witherden, Mills, Williams, B.Smith. I started with the first three and Laird, but after the first JLT I traded Laird out for B.Smith. A bit worried about Williams not playing in the JLT2 game, but will see how that pans out.

        • Derek says:

          Mid price in defence looks a good option, if going big in the rucks.

          Like for like, the defenders of Witherden, Williams, Smith, Robertson, Ridley stack up much better than Billings, Petracca, Greene, Worpel, Elliott

      • kevwal says:

        I had 4 mid pricers, Ryan/Mills/Williams/Smith (plus Hurn), then Greene popped up and some of the forward rookies may not have the job security needed to fatten up. Dropped Smith for Greene, maybe.

  111. BadgerHoney7 says:

    who do i go: whitfield, b crouch, coniglio
    or: o'meara, williams, oliver

  112. Sc fanatic says:

    Please help! Can’t choose between
    Laird or Lloyd
    Neale + libba or crouch + crouch

  113. Lekdog says:


    • Funkhouser says:

      Cheers Lek, I'm in for sure

    • The_Blacksheep says:

      Nice Lekdog! I have jumped in.

    • Sharkmove_King says:

      I'm in as the 18th team! You sure know how to sell out a league mighty fast Lekdog! Didn't see Patch in there, hopefully I didn't take his spot, although I'm sure you're in another league with The Potatoes!

    • Bells says:

      Spewing I missed out till I realised I was already in it. 🙂

      If anyone did miss and wants a pretty competitive league 'Jock's Jock' has few spots up for grabs.
      Expect to be thrashed if you're not in the top 5000 or thereabouts I guess. But more importantly turn up and give a good account of yourself every week.How about a relegation battle to keep it interesting? Bottom 3 to be cut at the end of the year.


  114. Hawk131415 says:

    Who's got the stones to pick Rocky???

  115. BadgerHoney7 says:

    Duursma another nice rookie defender

  116. Shake_n_bake says:

    Preuss inj groin

  117. BadgerHoney7 says:

    Bailey Scott – 19 touches, 2 goals from 57% TOG

  118. Russty_ says:

    Duursma's looking the goods with 24 disposals, how many are locking him in?…he's only 12% ownership at the moment.

  119. Hawk131415 says:

    Anybody having trouble with fanfooty with the Dees Brissy game?

  120. In the warm up reserves game for Melbourne a couple of relevant points PREUSS has injured his thigh and taken off in 3 rd quarter.Co captains VINEY and JONES dominant and recruit SPARROW did his round 1 chances no harm with an impressive game Only my views demons over Brissy res by plenty NDD

  121. Hawk131415 says:

    Lyons a smokie?

    • Russty_ says:

      Not unless you consider him a top 8 Mid I'd think.

      • Disagree Russty He is playing great footy The difference between the sides also Bastinack has backed up and Zac Bailey playing forward good

      • Hawk131415 says:

        Yeah true, 110 last jlt against box hill, pod? if he goes 110+ today, could be a cash save if you cant fit the likes of Macrae or the likes, wait for them to drop and pounce, waste of a trade i know, but,,,,,,

  122. BadgerHoney7 says:

    alright next one: (grundy), gawn, collins
    or: (grundy), goldy, brodie smith

  123. Russty_ says:

    Hi Guys, I reckon this is the week to decide who we're not gonna pick rather than who we are picking, I'm trying to stick to my original plans, as the inflated JLT scores can make us waiver from our original solid locks.
    It's tough though cause there's quite a few tantalising options questioning our resolve.
    How many big scoring JLT guys are you picking over your original plans and who?

    • JohnDJ59 says:

      Hi Russty, I think your first line summed it up for me, more about who not to pick. D.Smith is now out of my side, so I have the problem of who to replace him with, three of my top 5 mids are still in my team, Cripps M1 Oliver M2, M.Crouch M5, the other two I am still thinking about. My defence has had one change, B.Smith is in for Laird, so going with a 0-4-2 back line.My on field rookies haven't changed a lot, except for Butters and Drew coming in.

      • Russty_ says:

        Hey John, yeah Smith is out of mine too, if he's not mostly mid this year, could bleed cash.
        I'd love to take Brad Crouch but when does his injury flare up again?..does look very good though.
        Gotta be careful too with too many Port players with the round 11 China game.

        • JohnDJ59 says:

          Hi Russty I have to say some of the mid priced players in the mids are tempting, but I have enough in the back line, so sticking to the 5-0-3 for my midfield.The three Port rookies are my only Port players, so the round 11 China game shouldn't be a problem.

    • Hawk131415 says:

      I've changed but gone back to close to my original line up, a couple of tweaks, mainly to fit both Grundy and Gawn,

  124. Maverick_ says:

    How does clarry look today? I know it’s his job role of being an in and under and a contested beast but should we be worried about his kick to handball ratio? He does handball it ALOT.. doubt he will move from M2 though

    • Russty_ says:

      Looking like his usual self Mav, lots of handballs yeah but also hardball gets, clearances…4 tackles, bet he gets over 100 today.
      For a guy who usually gets more handballs than kicks, he sure scores well.

  125. BlueBaggerJosh says:

    ahern a sneaky option? Back to back 90's at 60% TOG

    • Sharkmove_King says:

      It would be a very sneaky option josh, but not for me. Low tog is kind of a double edged sword at this time of year- Sure it makes their ppm look great but at the same time why is it so low? Injury? Fitness? Tank? Not rated as highly as teammates?

    • Russty_ says:

      Better off going Walsh or even Worpel I think Josh if you want to spend that much..Ahern could be hard to get rid of unless he really steps up.

  126. Beezneez says:

    Anyone tempted Lycett r2. 122 points. Was servicable at r2 most of last year till I traded in Grundy. Goldy to Lycett gives a nice bit of $$$ to spend elsewhere. Think I'm going to be told I'm mad.

    • Russty_ says:

      I've got him in my Draft side Beez, will be a handy backup / Forward….could be ok later in the year if he starts posting solid numbers.

      • Beezneez says:

        Thanks Russty. Was thinking of ways to raise some cash for Brayshaw. Will continue to think about it

    • Hawk131415 says:


    • Derek says:

      I think Lycett is #1 ruck at Port

      Can see him averaging 90

      I started him last year. But too expensive this year

    • Patch says:

      Ryder looks like he'll be playing forward more than Lycett but I wouldn't be doing it unless Paddy's cheekbone will keep him out an extended period. Ryder's too good to keep deep forward for too long, but if you're running risky rucks he'd almost be essential.

  127. Brn says:

    Anyone keen for a gamble on Vandenberg as a fast money maker?

  128. gator59 says:

    Scrimshaw any one

  129. BlueBaggerJosh says:

    Imagine Walsh and cousins in the last two mid spots averaging 85+

  130. Jack says:

    Is Brayshaw a supercoach option or just a fantasy player?

  131. BlueBaggerJosh says:

    Only way Cousins could be looking better is if we were in Alabama, currently at M7

  132. Hawk131415 says:


  133. BadgerHoney7 says:

    Had Jaeger in my team day 1 hoping as a POD, please don’t everyone pick him.

  134. KeenButClueless says:

    Have just reached that calm sweet spot where I am really happy with my team. Probably means that some of these rookie locks will disappear come round 1 selection – especially a cheapie and have to start again!

  135. Freddy says:

    Lloyd and b smith, or hurn and williams? What do you guys think?

  136. Sc fanatic says:

    Lincoln McCarthy at 247k at D3 am I crazy!
    105 first jlt and 75 today I think he is a better pick than Toby knob head green!

  137. Russty_ says:

    I've gone Libba out for Brayshaw in, and Elliott out for a rookie, Brayshaw is now M6 and have 3 fwd rookies, thoughts fellas?
    Kinda like having a stacked midfield.

    • JohnDJ59 says:

      I have Walsh at M6 at the moment, still going with the 5-0-3 structure in the mids, mainly due to cash left, if I could afford it I would seriously go the 6-0-2.

    • Michael says:

      I would like to play 3 forward rooks too but can't see 3 rooks I would be happy to play on ground.

    • Russty_ says:

      Cheers boys, currently running with Setterfield, Burgess and Drew, hopefully they'll get the call up otherwise it's back to the drawing board.

    • Did the same Russty Showing why he went at 3 also 3 rooks forward no choice mate

      • Russty_ says:

        Angus is a beast Neil, you're lucky as a Demons supporter to have him there…he could be one of the best this year easy.
        Hopefully our strong midfields will make up for lack of points in the fwd line until we can upgrade.

    • Beezneez says:

      I have 3 fwd rooks too – same ones you have Russty. Have had 5 premo mids since the start but would like to add Brayshaw. At the end of last year I wrote down my ideal team and Brayshaw was there. About to see if I can fit him in by downgrading expensive rooks to cheaper ones. Could easy fit him in if I drop B Smith or B Crouch but I kinda like both of them. Thing Port rooks Butters, Duursma and Drew all a good chance to play.

  138. Michael says:

    Martin now back in my team. There's like 15 mids I want

  139. Whitey says:

    Hi guys, need some help. Who misses out, out of Neale, Dusty or Oliver. Its doing my head in. Someone make the decision for me please.

    • Russty_ says:

      I'd say Martin Whitey, only cause historically, he's lost money in the first half of recent seasons.

    • Dusty the other two very consistent

    • Derek says:

      Go with them all.

      I’m thinking of going with deep midfield. I’m not seeing the midfield rookies

      Cripps, Oliver, Neale, Martin, MCrouch, Merrett, Libba, Walsh

      • TOPHAWK1 says:

        There are some value midfield rookies out there mate. Charlie Constable, Bailey Scott, Micheal Gibbons, and perhaps Xavier Duursma?

        Plenty of midfield mid priced players on offer too. Brad Crouch, Braiden Fiorini, Tom Rockliff, Tom Liberatore, Anthony Miles, and Ben Ainsworth to name some.

        Hope you get it right Derek. Cheers. TH

      • JohnDJ59 says:

        You can't be serious !

        • Derek says:

          I’m not seeing the mid field rookies

          I’m worried about all the Uber defenders, looking at going 1 less premium in Defence and 1 more in guts. Especially when I can get Dusty for same price as Whitfield and Oliver for Lloyd.

          The forward rookies are looking a bit better.

          • JohnDJ59 says:

            I think we could be comfortable with three of Cousins, Walsh, Butters, Constable on field in the mids if they start and on form you would expect them to.

    • Sharkmove_King says:

      Neale for me, although they're all pretty solid

  140. dontblushbaby says:

    F3 – Greene or Worpel ? Worpel is 40k more though to start with ?

    • Patch says:

      Don't like either to be honest with you Gayley. Really not huge on any forwards around that price, are you able to cut enough cash to reach Billings?

      Unless you like Linc McCarthy at the Lions for that price off a 105 and 75 (as per SC Fanatic below)

      • Hawk131415 says:

        Wouldnt go near Billings, thats more cash for more trash,i WOULD go Worpel over Greene, as Greene is injury prone and reported constantly, Worpel has an upside like he"s shown, McCarthy is an option too, so if picking one of the 3, Worpel then McCarthy then Greene for me,

        • TOPHAWK1 says:

          Agreed. Why throw more good cash at a player like Billings that has delivered trash in 2018. Billings promises so much but delivers SWFA. Worpel played well again tonight. He is hungry. Worried about Hawthorn though. Greene is flaky at best. Mid air (fend off or goal ) kicks is all he seems to be good at.

      • Sharkmove_King says:

        I've got Billings at F4 at the moment, but I'm not really confident. That F4 position can make or break your season this year.

        I don't want Worpel, he's a second year player.

        McCarthy- does he even rotate through the middle? Small forward, no thanks.

        Greene- I cant select a player with such little game time coming off a injuried year

        I'm thinking about going against the trend and picking an out and out premium in Robbie Gray. He will still average 90 playing forward and will be a pod by the looks of things.

      • Gen says:

        Tom Papley one to consider, with guaranteed midfield time and reports of a fantastic pre season he is a POD I'm going to run with. Maybe looking thru my red and white glasses but reckon he'll have some belter games this season!

        • Gen says:

          Awkward price at 383k but im taking the punt!

          • Gen says:

            Paps 16 touches at the half

            • Hawk131415 says:

              And 50 jlt1, with 80% TOG, and playing GC, Trap!!

              • dontblushbaby says:

                Snags Higgins – anyone considering him ? has been solid in the JLT,

                • Maverick_ says:

                  Yup I’ve mentioned him a few times blush I’m a big big fan. It may be a year early yet but he will breakout soon.. he was an absolute bull in TAC. I have a lot of thinking to do between now & Rd1. Greene V Higgins

                  • Lazza says:

                    Have to remember Higgins has the record for the highest SC points in TAC ever… He has the Hunger… and JLT2 he spent a good amount of time playing on the ball in the second half… made a huge influence in the Tigers winning the game .. recall some article that says when Higgins plays mid the Tigers have a huge lift in performance… I reckon as the year progresses he will play more and more midfield.. I’m seriously considering him..

  141. Gen says:

    Currently have old Mundy sitting at f3 and abit worried about him being able to maintain solid output…… could Travis Boak @ $478k be an option? Thoughts?

    • Twilightingale says:

      Projected to spend less time forward and get more midfield time this year. I like he'll average low 90's, not sure if good enough to be a top 6 forward but thereabouts

  142. Locked and Loaded says:

    Goldy/ Coniglio
    Gawn/ Brayshaw

    Option 1 or 2

    Finding this real tough feel like Gawn is a must

  143. TOPHAWK1 says:

    Gawn has to be a must now. Brayden Pruess has injured his groin……….We all know what a prikk of an injury that is. He will be missing for an extended period IMO. I think it is almost time to just accept the fact it might be best to just go the Grawndy set and forget combo. I currently have Gawn and Goldy, but if Grundy goes large on Tuesday, then it will probably force my hand to switch Goldy with Grundy. What do other community members think?

    • Daz says:

      Definitely top 2 ruckman, we'll all want them by season end. Depends if you want to use a trade to do so for lesser cash from Goldstein if he plays well. I'm saving the trade and locking them in .

    • JohnDJ59 says:

      I started with Grundy/Gawn, then changed it around a few times, but finally settled on that combo, thinking I could always trade down if it didn't work out.

      • Derek says:

        I have tried every R2 there is. Thinking of a way to get Gawn when he drops in price. Tried it last year with Lycett, he was ok especially as I could have gone with Kruzer instead. But it did mean 3 months of worry and watching Eagles games from behind the couch. Not sure if I can do that again.

        Come to conclusion there are only 3 premium/keeper/Uber rucks. Goldy is going to be close the the other two.

        The only problem I see with having Goldy, unless there is an injury to Grundy, you not getting Gawn. Therefore you need to look at the scoring difference for the WHOLE year and compare to the price difference, and this is where Gawn picks himself.

        Pay the Price

        • JohnDJ59 says:

          Agree Derek, sometimes you just have to pay up, if Titch was playing this year I wouldn't even think about his price, I'd just pick him.

      • Lazza says:

        Yeh, I was tossing Gawn and Grundy vs Grundy and Gawn but still stuck on the order … no just stuffing around … I was Grundy and Goldy for a while … then I went Gawn and Goldy… now with the rookies sh1tting it up… I’m looking at Gawn and Grundy / Mid price strategy..

    • Couldn't agree more TOPPA Grawndy been there since day dot / set and forget It seems to be too good that both wont miss games so i have WESTHOFF and Bines as insurance. Westhoff is a likely top 6 forward anyway .Second only to Danger last year

      • Shake_n_bake says:

        You have gone the same way as myself Neil. I haven’t changed from day dot Grundy Gawn.

    • _Kyle says:

      After the preuss news i want to fir gawn in somehow but having grundy cripps and macrae all already in its gonna be a hard ask to find that extra 150k and fit in the other big dog aswell.

  144. Hawk131415 says:

    Heeney hurt,,,,

  145. JohnDJ59 says:

    Looking at a Dees player on each line, Hore D8, Oliver M2, Gawn R2, VandenBerg F3.

    • KeenButClueless says:

      I think you may have unearthed an overlooked gem in Vandenberg at F3, John. Hadn’t thought about at all until you mentioned. Interesting option! Thanks John.