CAPTAIN McCAPTAINFACE Round 11

Let’s get straight into it, community!

SYDNEY vs CARLTON
SCG, 7.50PM

Listen here, pipsqueak. Yeah, you, Lance BLOODY Franklin. I gave you a spray on the podcast and I’m going to give you another one here. You were supposed to score 160, not 60. You weren’t even on Harris Andrews, you had Darcy flipping Gardiner for company. I mean, come on. If you don’t score 150 against the Blues on your home turf on the big stage of Friday night, I may just trade you back out in disgust. I mean are you even for real if you can’t knock out a VC score against the Blues?

Patrick Cripps goes orright, I guess. Averaging 117 for the season, and pumps out 108 against the Swans when he plays them – on a tight SCG ground the safe money would be on him exceeding that by some way. Similarly, if you’ve got Josh P Kennedy, he may be another option, but after 109 and 108 in his past two I’d put him behind other options tonight.

Similarly, if you’ve got THE KRUUUEEEEZ, it’s time to use the Kreuz. Has scores of 127 and 139 in his past three games, and a contested game will really suit his scoring.

 

WESTERN BULLDOGS vs MELBOURNE
Marveltihad Stadium Thing, 1.10PM

Jack Macrae had a quiet week against the Pies. He had 30 touches but only six of them were contested, and on top of that he only picked up four tackles. Will he improve against the Dees? You’d think so. Will he be tagged? Yeah look probably. Will I VC him? Yeah, nah. He’s projected to score 134, and if anyone scores from the Dogs it’s him, but I’m not feeling it.

What I am feeling though is Max Gawn. After forgetting to put him on the list last week because I’m not very smart, I ended up captaining him for a mildly disappointing 117. Under the roof at whatever they’re calling it-dome this week, he could rack up a lot of points, not just in hitouts but also running forward and around the ground against Tom Boyd/Jordan Roughead/Tim English/etc. Maybe.

 

HAWTHORN vs PORT ADELAIDE
University of Tasmania Stadium, 2.10PM

Midfield jet Tom Mitchell would be just about the only player I’d be looking at this week for a VC option in this game. He’s good at football. Beyond that, as I spoke about in this week’s podcast, Robbie Gray will be someone to pick and choose as a VC option and this is a week to opt out.

Tom Rockliff hasn’t proven he deserves any sort of VC opportunity, while James Sicily is too fickle for my liking – he could be an option for those of you who feel a little bit dicier with your VC selections, but his last two scores against the Power are 54 and 38.

 

GOLD COAST SUNS vs GEELONG CATS
Metricon Stadium, 4.35PM

After his 133 on the weekend, Patrick Dangerfield is surely on people’s lips as not just a huge trade-in target, but also as a captaincy option. 137, 114 and 133 in his past three weeks seems to indicate he is back, and I can’t see the Suns doing much to stop him. The only thing that may stop him is injury to Esava Ratugolea – make sure you keep an eye on the teams. If they bring in another midfielder, my money would be on Danger, Gay Ablett or both spending significant minutes forward. Against the Suns both could still knock out 140, but I’d be more cautious.

If both of them play forward, it could open the door for Joel Selwood to reverse his run of poor form, but I wouldn’t be holding my breath. In the same vein, I wouldn’t be looking at anyone from the Suns as a captaincy option.

 

ESSENDON vs RICHMOND
MCG, 7.20PM

And to think Essendon had found some form. RIP form, round eight to round 10. Dustin Martin still hasn’t exploded back into form – is this the week he does? I mean I hope not – both because Essendon will be stuffed if he fires, and I can’t fit him into my side until after his bye so I hope he stays very, very cheap.

Elsewhere in this game, Zach Merrett is an option. I don’t know if he’s a good one, so I’d be avoiding him. No-one else in this game tickles my fancy – not The Nank, not Trent Cotchin, not Michael Hurley – assuming he’s named. Pass, pass, pass.

 

WEST COAST vs ST KILDA
Optus Stadium, 8.10PM

If you’re one of the sneaky buggers bringing in Andrew Gaff – I wouldn’t captain him. Coming off a 135 against the Hawks, this season’s Mr Consistent has six scores between 100 and 115 and two 115+s. While that ratio excites me from a trading perspective, it does not from a captaincy one. If you’re going with an Eagle, make it Jack Darling despite his poor score last week.132, 125, 181 and 81 are his last four scores and by gum what you wouldn’t give to have three of them.

From the Saints, Jimmy Webster is your best bet but I wouldn’t be putting my captain’s armband on him.

 

NORTH MELBOURNE vs BRISBANE
Etihad Stadium, 1.10PM

The tale of two Daynes. Dayne Beams and Dayne Zorko: Ben Jacobs will go to one and the other will score 140. Which one is which? I don’t profess to know, but smart money would be on Zorko getting the tag and Beams getting off the chain. That said, Fyfe was incredible against Jacobs so maybe he’s not some super stopper? Or maybe Fyfe’s just… you know, really good.

 

COLLINGWOOD vs FREMANTLE
MCG, 3.30PM

Nathaniel Fyfe. That is all.

Well, also Brodie Grundy if Sandi doesn’t play. EDIT: Sandi is missing, Grundy could hit 300 here.

Otherwise: Fyfe. Is. Lyfe.

 

ADELAIDE vs GWS
Adelaide Oval, 4.40PM

This was a highly anticipated clash a few months ago, before both sides were hit by big injuries and sort of turned a bit bad. Or a lot bad. Somehow both of these teams have lost to Essendon, which tells you just how bad they are.

In terms of Supercoach options, Stephen Coniglio obviously enjoys having Josh Kelly in the side – Cogs would be the only option from this game I’d even have a look at.

Who are you going with this week, community? Who have I missed?

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  1. redherringfc says:

    Gawn into Fyfe this week. Pretty sure it’ll be a popular combo.

  2. Doc says:

    I love you guys ❤️

  3. neil demons delight says:

    Got to be Gawn and Tich surely Patch well done as well mate gives us an insight cheers NDD

  4. Ja191 says:

    Thanks patch but didn’t know gaz swung that way

  5. Johnny says:

    Are Oliver owners worried with the dip in his scores? Has his role in the team changed or is he just having a lean run?

  6. Defying_Madness says:

    Gawn into Grundy for me

  7. Seeker says:

    FYI: Max Gawn has an average of 60.2 and a high of 92 against the bulldogs…For what its worth I think that changes this week

  8. Ernie West says:

    Quite a few do not have the Danger-Grundy combination and if so that will definately be the combo this weekend. I’ll still be tempted with Gawn against the ruckless Bulldogs.

  9. Mystic_Mac says:

    Franklin into Fyfe for me.

  10. Jack says:

    Either Gawn or Macrae into Danger.

  11. Claire says:

    Attention BrownlowBoy. You asked to see my team which I haven’t listed before. New to SC and learning lots. Started well but have dropped off.
    Laird, Howe, Sicily, McGovern, Doedee, Naughton, if he plays & Ridley and Duman.
    Fyfe, Danger, Mitchell, Oliver, M. Crouch, Parker, Martin, T. Kelly & Dow, Banfield, Crowden.
    Gawn, Grundy & Olango
    Heeney, R. Gray, D. Smith, Fritsch, Guelfi, ZGL & Spargo and Keffee.
    17 trades and $36K.
    Thinking of switching Heeney to the mids, trading T. Kelly and ZGL and bringing in Buddy and Tim Smith leaving me with 15 trades and $84K. When I can afford him I want to get J Kelly back to complete my mids after trading him out after round 3.

    • Northernsoul74 says:

      Think I’d double downgrade if I was you. You have quite a few rookies that culling.

      • Claire says:

        Who for example Northern? I have had problems with my defence all year. If a Naughton doesn’t make it this week and apparently he will, if Ridley gets dropped and if Dumas doesn’t get selected I suppose I’ll have to get in Rice but he has the dreaded, for me, round 14 bye.
        Isn’t it good to have rookies that need culling when have their bye?

        • Sc_Wow says:

          Also don’t plan to keep heeney in your mids, leave him in your forwards. There are plenty of midfields that will avg more than heeney but not many fwds

          • Claire says:

            If you had read my note closer Wow, you would have noted that it is a temporary move until I get a decent mid and that will be after the round 13 bye when I plan to get Kelly (GWS) back. IF Macrae drops in value, I’ll get him. Yes, I have learnt to keep the mid/fwds in the fwd line, but this move is temporary if I get Mighty Buddy in. Thanks for the reminder anyway Wow.

            • Sc_Wow says:

              Ok it’s just a move I see a lot of beginners make, I wasn’t having a go.

              Also you will need to pick up some value players to get to full premo, not much cash in the bank and you’ll be left with very few trades if you continue to go 1 up 1 down to get there

        • Northernsoul74 says:

          If Naughton plays he needs to go as likely will start to bleed money. If you want to get funky you could go Naughton to Smith via Keefe dpp. I’d go Naughton to Rice and Crowden to Smith using Spargo DPP.

          • Claire says:

            That’s an idea. Even though Naughton will rack up scores once his O is out of the system. Why is there not much love for Buddy. Surely he’ll smash out some good scores until his bye then have a rest and continue on his merry way. I don’t barrack for the Swans but Buddy is great.
            Derek the Hawker, Are you there?

            • Derek says:

              Buddy’s heel is stuffed. Revealed that he can’t train during the week. That is not good and won’t be getting any love from me until he is ok. You just don’t need those sort of risks.

              • Claire says:

                Yes, I read he trains once a week but is getting better but I’ll reluctantly pass. Derek, watch out if he gets 140 SC points on Friday night.

            • JEL says:

              Buddy is boom or bust at the best of times, and I don't think this is the best of times.
              He's had injury concerns of late which worries me.
              At a similar price there's players like Boak, Hogan, Robinson or even Menagola I'd be looking at.

            • TOPHAWK1 says:

              Hi Claire,

              Why would you want to trade in Buddy now? He has that nasty round 14 bye and is likely to add to your donut woes as you have 11 out during that round. Getting Buddy would make it 12.

              Like Derek said, he has an ongoing heel injury. These can take a long time to heal. Extremely risky Claire.

              I would punt ZGL (Despite his lowish BE) for T Smith and then T Kelly to Rockliff and build that warchest.

              Then during the byes, a double forward upgrade to solidify the FWD line.

              Good luck Claire!

        • Northernsoul74 says:

          More important to cull them when they’ve maxed out. Perfect when their bye hits but rarely happens that way.

    • JohnDJ59 says:

      Can you get McLean instead of Buddy ?

      • Claire says:

        No, short by $20K. This is all getting to hard. Maybe just the ZGL to T. Smith trade and see what happens with selections this week.

        • Russty_ says:

          Hi Claire, yeah maybe better off just waiting until thursday…if ZGL is named and Crowden isn't again, maybe get rid of Crowden to Smith.
          Better to trade a non player than a player :)…cheers.

        • JohnDJ59 says:

          Sounds like the way to go Claire, I'm a big Buddy fan, had him from the start last year and was planning to get him in after the byes, but his injury has scared me off at the moment.

    • SC_Sixty6 says:

      If I were you I'd offload naughton to either Ridley or Rice. Naughton is done do not let him lose you cash as he won't make money with his 0 hurting him.

      Id also trade ZGL to Smith.

      • Jack says:

        I agree with this:
        Naughton to Rice
        ZGL to Smith
        Frees up cash so you can get McLean/Yeo/Cripps after their bye. You have a solid team by the way

    • BrownlowBoy says:

      G'day Claire,

      I really like what you have here, considering it's your first year at the game, you should be very proud of this team.
      I wouldn't go near Buddy, his heel is supposedly still causing him trouble.

      My 2 cents worth on trade plans.

      If Naughton plays:
      Naughton to Tim Smith via swinging Keefe into defence
      Tim Kelly to Westhoff via swinging Heeney into mids

      If Naughton doesn't play:
      ZGL to Smith
      Tim Kelly to Westhoff or swing Sicily to forward line and grab Simpson.

  12. Keenbutclueless says:

    Kreuzer into Gawn for me. Love a great Friday night VC option.

  13. BloodyFranklin says:

    Gay Ablett 🤣

  14. Puss says:

    So do I but not set in concrete. Kreuzer won’t get all his own way against Sinclair. Do you have a decent Swan? Kennedy, Franklin, Parker, Heeney etc. Swans find another notch up there.
    I may go Franklin. Which Blue can stop him? If not Danger, Gawn or Grundy, even Titch. Big weekend for VC and C’s.
    Good luck.

  15. theRealPod says:

    Gawn VC and Danger C. You'd think one of them will smash out a mammoth one.

  16. Daniel says:

    Who should I trade out to get in Smith this week out of ZGL and Mutch? Just brought in mutch 2 weeks ago and still has cash to make, but idk if he gets a game soon, while zgl looks to have peaked in price, unless he can go big this week. They both share the rd13 bye, trading mutch means moving spargo to my mid bench, while trading zgl allows spargo to be my fwd emg, alongside guelfi. Thoughts?

  17. HarryH76 says:

    Seems Walters and Rocky are the hot topics this week. Thought a lot about this but have to pass on both. I get Rocky could be good for some, but I already have a full midfield and in case of injury I'd rather use DPP swing than have Rocky sitting on the pine doing nothing. As for Walters, just not trusting that knee. I'm also thinking ahead that if Freo are out of the finals race, Ross the Boss may prematurely end his season for surgery.

    Passing on both.

    • theRealPod says:

      I'm thinking the same about Walters knee, stearing clear.

    • Ahmad rubas says:

      I'll be jumping on rocky as a M8 for now and good coverage for the byes at a bargain price.
      I also like the look of Walters as I think there is more chance of Walters being a top 6 forward from now than rocky being a top 8 midfielder from now but the Walters round 14 bye is what swings it to rocky for me

      • Sc_Wow says:

        Gonna be able to move rocky from m8 though? Byes are 3 rounds, it’s still a long season ahead

        • TIGESB2B says:

          If Rocky gets a couple more decent scores, he can more easily be upgraded to a full premo down the track, if needed.

        • Ahmad rubas says:

          Yeah rocky becomes a problem if he is M8 at end of byes and he could easily breakdown as well just hoping he does well and I can push him to M9 after the byes

  18. Russty_ says:

    Vc and c for me this week will be Gawny into Grundy.
    Gawn against Boyd and or Campbell, he should smash em the way Boyd got smashed last week by Grundy.
    Hopefully Smith doesn't help out Gawn too much in the Ruck to take points away.
    And Grundy against Apeness, haven't seen him play but you'd have to think he'll get smashed by Grundy.

  19. SC_Sixty6 says:

    Grundy into Fyfe!

  20. hedski says:

    Cheers Patch McPatchface, probs Gawn into Danger for me, still tossing up the Walters inclusion, I won't go near Rocky cos of past burns/injury worries, but Sonny's knee is causing me the same head aches…

    • Russty_ says:

      Hey hedski, he's also never averaged over 88 in his whole career, may be averaging 93 now but for how long?
      He's kinda Buddy-like with his highs and lows except Buddy is better and usually ends up averaging more.
      It's not just Walters' Knee peeps should be thinking about, it's his historical lack of premo scoring on a regular basis and establishing a reliable average.

      • Ja191 says:

        yeah but he's always played forward. Half way through last year he had a role change playing a lot more mid. Can really only judge his scores from then which have been very consistent. I don't have a doubt that he won't average 95-100+ from here on out just that bloody knee

  21. SC_Sixty6 says:

    Hey Patch! Go easy on my team please! The crows aren't that bad…..just alot of injuries and a shit coach that can't change a gameplan.

    • Russty_ says:

      What was Cam Ellis Spudman's excuse on the weekend?…looked like he was just loitering on the fringes of the pack half the time , was going well for me up until then averaging 100 in his previous 6 games but his days are numbered in my team now, hopefully he can not drop a butt load of cash before his bye.

  22. Sam says:

    Rockliff, Boak or Gray?

  23. seen_burns says:

    Thoughts on Heath Shaw, burnt alot of us last year but seems like his role changed against Essendon and was the main player out of the backline. Or just wait for another player like Howe to drop in price.

    • Swans2012 says:

      The burns are too deep for me….never again list

    • Russty_ says:

      He's doing much better this year than last year Burns but might be better to look at someone younger, who's not biding his time until the inevitable end.

    • Derek says:

      I’ve had him from the start, so have kept a close eye. He has played a lot better than his scores indicated. Always did a few poor things every game that killed his score.

      Forgot which game, but kicked 2 out on full within 60 seconds, both just missing target and both close line-balls. Dropped 12 pts instead of going up 12pts. That’s was 24pts. Also got a couple of rough Deliberate outs.

      Last week everything went his way.

  24. Russty_ says:

    Hey peeps, I'm thinking of keeping Naughton for the duration, my thinking is that he already lost 13k after round 8, and will lose $18k and 20k respectively in round 11 and 13 assuming he doesn't hit his breakevens of 99 and 104 which is highly likely.
    This will make his price $251K but is that really such a bad thing when you're planning to keep them for the rest of the year?
    Round 14 his breakeven goes back to 33 again and then 40 etc, this is all assuming he's scored 59 every week previous.
    So realistically, he'll end up at in the high 200's again and will have been providing cover the whole time barring round 12.
    I don't need to trade him out for the money but will probably want to later in the season as a luxury upgrade or injury replacement.
    I think sometimes patience is a virtue and it's better to just wait and see what happens, it's too easy to run out of trades in SC and stuff your season into oblivion.

    So what do you think about hanging onto Naughton rather than going for rooks like Rice and Austin?..can't see much upside really in any Saints.

    • neil demons delight says:

      I really rate this kid Russty.It's a no brainer talent wise and the others play for a crap team. Naughton will only get better I think it's a smart move mate

      • Russty_ says:

        Thanks Neil…I think there's more upside to keeping him than trading him, but others might need to do different depending on their situation.

    • JohnDJ59 says:

      Hey Russty I traded out Naughton in round 9, I couldn't afford having non playing players in my defence, if all your defenders on field are playing and you have cover ie Naughton this week, go for it.

  25. Wes says:

    How many players should we be looking at having for every bye rd?

    Right now (with future trades included) I have 21, 19, 19 playing each rd (Premiums: 15, 16, 15)

    Is this a good amount?

  26. The Ranger says:

    Love ya work Patch, thanks.
    No bloody idea on what I'm doing with the VC/C this week…too many bloody options.
    Macrae? Danger? Gawn? Titch?
    It was a lot easier when there was just The Bald Genius and then everyone else!

  27. Russty_ says:

    Real dead zone in here tonight…maybe 4 random people, wonder what's keeping people away?, ok, I'm out too cause it feels like a ghost town, might check back in a bit later.

  28. Blaknight says:

    Gawn into Darling this week for me.

  29. hey says:

    Who's the better option, Franklin or Walters, both cheapish, same bye and both probably top 6 fwds

    • Russty_ says:

      Hey…hey, it's Wednesday!…gotta say mate, I'd advise against both for now, until you know how their respective injuries pan out.

  30. Dav says:

    Is having Fyfe, Mundy and Walters too many free midfielders?

  31. Rick Grimes says:

    Got a feeling JJK is going to come home like a freight train. Cheap as and building into it.

  32. TheGreatBozza says:

    Gawn into Grundy..trust the ruck process

  33. Tyruddanaut says:

    FRANklin to Danger

  34. dontblushbaby says:

    Angus Brayshaw Def / Mid @ 423k ,BE 19 – is he looking like being a break out player for the second half the season ? ,thoughts anyone ?

    • The Ranger says:

      Been keeping an eye on him all year but I don't think I'll take the risk yet, maybe next year.
      Might make a handy D7/M9 type if anyone can make that work.

    • JohnDJ59 says:

      I like him dbb, if I had more trades up my sleeve I would be getting him in, but I also feel two weeks ago was the time for that trade.

    • Whitey says:

      Melbourne have been beating up on some ordinary efforts/sides in the last couple of weeks. Interesting to see what he can do against a good side.

      • JohnDJ59 says:

        The Crows did make the GF last year and are in the eight.

        • Russty_ says:

          Dees for the flag this year John!…why the hell not?….they're better than Richmond were last year already.

          • JohnDJ59 says:

            Just hoping for a top 4 finish or even just making the finals at this stage Russty, we had a bit of a run last year as well and missed out.

            • Russty_ says:

              Too much talent in your side this year mate I feel and it's all coming together at the right time, and timing is important.
              Someone's doing something right there this year and in the few years past in the recruiting department and it's exciting times ahead for the Dees I reckon.

          • neil demons delight says:

            you are a very intelligent man Russty

            • Russty_ says:

              Hey Neil mate, just rooting for the underdogs this year mate, and your Dees are looking good, was heartbreaking last year seeing them miss the top 8 by the smallest of percentages, hopefully this year they give it a good old crack at the chocolates!

          • Cpt says:

            My doggies are starting their next 62 yr re-build. I’m hoping for a Dee’s Premiership this year.

      • JohnDJ59 says:

        Can't see any side tagging him with Clarry, Viney, Jones ahead of him in the pecking order.

    • Derek says:

      He has been getting good midfield time and I thought once Viney was back he would be pushed out. Doesn’t seem to have happened, Oetracca’s midfield time suffered more.

      He might be perm midfield at Dees. Not bad having Gawn tapping them down to him.

      I had Mills, and to avoid two donuts in defence last week did a sideways to McGrath. Was tossing up McGrath and Brayshaw, only cost me 80pts so far.

    • Sandyf62 says:

      If I wasn't getting in Heeney and Smith, I would have been trading Angus in, I looked at him last week, but went with Lloyd and Ryan, there always seems to be other players in front of him, would make a good POD, JS is very good, the Dees love him and he has dpp.

      • JohnDJ59 says:

        Go on Sandy get him in instead of Heeney, you can get him in after the byes, like you said Angus has JS, DPP and would be a POD.

        • Sandyf62 says:

          Done, I like the look of him in my def, plus I now have swings on all lines, not counting ruck, with Angus, Finlayson, Spargo, Higgins and Fogarty.

  35. Eddy says:

    Who to bring in this week Walters or Rockliff (Will probably be bringing the other in next week)

    • Blakey says:

      i dont no im in the same boat as you

    • Derek says:

      Problem with Rocky is he takes up a valuable midfield position. If you have him at M8 scoring 95-100 instead of a Dusty scoring 115-120, you will be losing ground.

      Only get him if;

      A) you think he will be a top 10 midfielder for rest of year

      B) you have very little team value, under $12m, and you are in serious need of value players.

      C) you have plenty of trades, 19+, and you only hold him over the byes, make a bit of cash and trade him to one of the big boys after their bye. Rocky up $100k, Macrae drops $100k, good trade

      D) season is in dis-array and you think ‘what the hell….’ and go the hail marry

      I don’t think too many in the top 500 will be risking Rocky.

      • Eddy says:

        I would be getting Rockliff for bye cover and then moving him to M9 very shortly after the byes (Will probably look at getting Macrae in for my final premo mid spot after byes)

      • Corey says:

        I’m B and C haha

      • Swans2012 says:

        I don't quite have the trades but team is coming together well enough for me to be confident of parking rocky at m9, so someone with rockys ceiling as a sub 400k m9 is a no brainer for me…

      • Connor says:

        Derek why do you see team value of such importance – I see you make fairly regular comments about it! I would have thought that premo's value fluctuates regularly throughout the year (ie. Fyfe is currently my only MID over $580k).
        Just interested in why you see it as so important??

        • Derek says:

          over the years I’ve played SC, one thing has always been true, on average the higher the rank, the higher the team value. Some will say the value will follow the rank, i think it the other way. Build a team with high value and the points and rank will follow.

          There will always be exceptions, but generally a higher valued team will score better than a low value.

          Have a look at the top 20 ranked players for this year, most are well over $13mil. Around 1,000 ranked it drops to $12.5mil. Logic says a team valued at $13mil will score better than a team ranked $12.5mil, this is why it becomes harder and harder for teams ranked outside top 100 to catch the leaders from about now onwards.

          Let’s say you are aiming for full premium. On average your premiums will be $525k each x22 = $11.55mil plus a decent bench of $2mil. Total is $13.55mil.

          Ideally we aim for full premium by r15.

          If your team value is only say $12mil, you will struggle to fill those last few premium places and be left with Brodie Smith and Daniel Rich in your team trying to compete against teams with Docherty and Simpson.

          You don’t really notice the team value until you run out of cash and still a couple of Real Premiums short and you then regret buying Macrae for $720k

          The way this game is designed, the value of your team will determine your scores.

          Most of your trades are made to increase value.

          I ponder this slot. What is a trade worth?

          If you put aside 10 trades for rookies, injuries, emergencies etc, it leaves us 20 trades to get to full premium. Say full premium is $13.55mil, it means that you use 20 trades to make $3.55mil. Works out about $175k per trade. Old Oker will tell you a trade is worth $175k.

          Just my thoughts

          • Jack says:

            Interesting thoughts Derek. I always said a good trade will earn you 200k or 200 points, but I guess if you add in injury trades, 175k (or even 150k) is more realistic.

            Also interesting that you say Round 15 for full premium. Most teams on here seem to be hitting it in the next week or two. I'm gonna be around Round 14 I think. I feel I'm struggling to keep up with more advanced teams than mine and can't wait for the byes to come to catch up.
            Do you think teams that to fall premo by say Round 15 might come home harder than teams that upgraded earlier?

            • Derek says:

              There could be a r14 bye player you will pick up after his bye to finish your team.

              Any sooner you are kidding yourself with a “premium” or 2

  36. Jordan says:

    Westhoff or gray

    • Russty_ says:

      I reckon Westhoff Jordan for the fact that he's been solid this year and Paddy still has archilles injury management which means the hoff will pick up extra points helping out in the ruck…and not sure yet how much Gray will play mid or fwd.

    • DavidSA says:

      I would rather punch Gray because he is smaller and can go further in distance after the punch

    • Ricardo says:

      HOFF. Ryder still struggling and Gray has been playing forward last couple of weeks.

  37. Bill says:

    Do we get 3 trades next week?

  38. Jono says:

    I'm going to VC Danger and the C on Fyfe!!

    My team is as follows;

    Defenders; Laird,Yeo,Hurley,Tuohy, Witherden and Coffield. (Naughton and Redman)

    Mids: Dangerfield,Dusty,Mitchell,Fyfe,Higgins,M.Robinson,Phillips and Spargo. (Garlett,Barry,England)

    Rucks: Gawn and Nic Nat (Cameron)

    Forwards; McLean,Buddy,Walters,D.Smith,Billings and Fritsch. (Rayner and Crowden)

  39. Jono says:

    I have $426,100k in the bank along with 16 trades!!

  40. Jordan says:

    Trade lachie Murphy or Dom Barry?
    Both are shit

    • DavidC says:

      Murph might be back this week, get rid of Barry.

      • Shake_n_Bake_ says:

        Im trading both

        • Finnius says:

          I don't think you get enough value out of them though. Surely you'd rather trade those who are maxed out and get enough cash to make an upgrade. I see a trade as worth at least 150k, so not worth it for me at this point. All they need is two more games and 70 and there is 50k more.

          • Shake_n_Bake_ says:

            I just want warm body’s playing Finnius especially over the byes. I just cant see the other 2 getting a game. Im bringing in Rice and Smith at the end of rd 11 l would av made $150k and with the other 2 projected rises another $120k Not going to sit on my hands waiting for Murphy & Barry to maybe get another go.

    • Sandyf62 says:

      Barry, at least Murphy was an emergency last weekend.

  41. Trades says:

    Menegola or Westhoff ROS

  42. PeteB says:

    What’s considered the minimum average score of a must have rookie after 2 rounds ? 70plus ?

    • Jack says:

      I’d say 60 but you can’t be too picky because you pretty much need to take a rookie every week from about round 5 to 13 so you take what’s on offer.
      Other factors must come into play to. For example although Rice has averaged 60 odd points he is mature aged and plays for St.Kilda so job security should be solid

  43. TommyC99 says:

    Thoughts on bringing in JJK? Probably best to wait a week but liking his matchup at home against the saints. It’s either him or Rocky for me this week!

    • Derek says:

      I’m usually against KPP. But you can’t ignore his value.

      I’ve been quietly talking about him for a couple of weeks, especially with all the attention Darling is attracting.

      If it wasn’t Saints he was playing this week I would wait until after his bye and re-assess in 2 weeks. But this might be THE week.

      • TommyC99 says:

        Yeah might go JJK this week and wait a week on Rocky to reassess. I need a bit of a POD move to gain some rank, we all know what he’s capable of

  44. TIGESB2B says:

    Gawn into Fyfe, or Grundy.
    Gone Ratugolea to Smith, J. Graham to Rocky, for bye cover. Hopefully Rocky tons up a few more times and fattens up for full premo-ing.

  45. Cpt says:

    How many trades you got?

    20 for me. 22 if I reverse trades.

    My Team:
    B: Yeo, Laird, Sicily, Savage, Doedee, Richards (Keefe, Ridley)
    M: Danger, T’itch, Oliver, Bont, Fyfe, Dusty, Cripps, Whitfield (Holman,Crowden, Phillips)
    R: Gawn, Grundy (Olango)
    F: McLean, Lambert, D.Smith, Heeney, Fritz, Smith, Spargo, Garlett)

    • Rocksta_ says:

      You have 18 Keepers with your 20 trades left. Great job. Even allowing for Injuries, you’ll have 10 trades left when full Premo.
      I have 19 keepers but only 15 trades left.

    • Derek says:

      I think you have this thing in the bag. How are you going to spend your prize money?

      Seriously, what is your rank?

      • Cpt says:

        Thanks. I’m ranked just inside 2k.

        Just traded Sandi (Rested – tbc) for Grundy and Barry for Smith.

        I’ll be targeting and extra Premo on each line to loophole ether Friday night or 1st game Saturday. Well, that’s my hope.

    • Dildor says:

      Where did you buy your extra trades from, ill give you $15 and a slice of ham for 2.

      • Cpt says:

        Haven’t had too many issues or injuries this year and lucky to select reasonable starting side:

        Trades so far;

        ROUND 11
        OUT
        Sandilands ($536,700)
        IN
        Grundy ($620,400)
        OUT
        Fritsch ($369,000)
        IN
        Smith ($123,900)
        ROUND 10
        OUT
        Kelly ($429,200)
        IN
        Ridley ($123,900)
        OUT
        Murray ($334,000)
        IN
        Oliver ($573,500)
        ROUND 9
        OUT
        Finlayson ($345,300)
        IN
        Yeo ($531,300)
        OUT
        Naughton ($289,900)
        IN
        Phillips ($123,900)
        ROUND 7
        OUT
        Stephenson ($322,600)
        IN
        Spargo ($117,300)
        OUT
        Banfield ($269,900)
        IN
        Cripps ($573,500)
        ROUND 4
        OUT
        Ryan ($194,100)
        IN
        Crowden ($117,300)
        OUT
        Murphy ($153,600)
        IN
        Richards ($135,300)

  46. John says:

    Gawn into Danger or Danger into Fyfe?

    • Dildor says:

      Both so tempting, i was thinking gawn to danger but the Danger Fyfe combo really tickles my fancy. Danger v GC and Fyfe v Collingwood, ones bound to go HUGE

  47. Keenbutclueless says:

    Like many here, have had a good look at Rocky, but after initial enthusiasm have passed. Bringing in Dusty instead.

    Having done all my bye planning, I can either run with a team that has Hibberd, Zerrett and Lambert or upgrade them to Simpson, Gaff and Boak.

    If I don’t upgrade any, my byes are 15/21, 13/19 and 16/21. It will leave me with 6 trades and 100k

    If I do upgrade, my byes are 15/21, 14/20 and 17/22. But I will only have 3 trades left.

    My bench cover is reasonable in both scenarios. At worst I have Austin, Murphy, Giro, Mutch (new rook – maybe O’Connor), Smith and Ahern.

    Whilst I know 3 trades is probably light, I am enticed by having a genuine premium side that is legitimately worth 2500 a week if all on the park.

    Currently ranked about 3k and play for rank, but keep an interest in leagues.

    So, go all out and risk the crash and burn, or keep some faith in the original choices and ride them for a whole, and if I still have trades, upgrade them later?

    • neil demons delight says:

      I know which three I would rather Keen but gee 3 trades is too low Great to have a real prem side. I wont make that but will have Fritz and SPP PLUS 10 trades Could trade SPP but definitely 1 short. Leagues for me good luck keen NDD

      • Keenbutclueless says:

        Thanks Neil. Maybe one of Hibberd or Zerrett in Round 13, because I am a little light for the round 13 bye and keep 5 trades.

        • neil demons delight says:

          Sounds right Hibberd looked good in the Alice. I got rid of him that week and kept Shaw on WoW'S advice .thanks for the 149 but Hibbo might end up the better. . 5 trades might be enough

    • JohnDJ59 says:

      I'd keep Hibbo Keen, I traded him out a few weeks back for Hurley who spat out a 66 and got himself injured,so that's one trade I wish I could have back.

      • Keenbutclueless says:

        thanks John. Picked Hibberd over Simpson at the start of the year and was prepared to pay that 30k extra. I really didn’t expect Simpson to have a great year. So it would really hurt to fork out 100k extra for someone I could have had for 30k less.

        • JohnDJ59 says:

          When you say it like that it would be even harder to do the trade, Simmo will be a top 8 defender, but there is a big difference between his good and bad.

    • DavidC says:

      3 trades?? RIP.

  48. Gregor says:

    By golly. First cab off the rank this morning.
    I have had a quick glance at the 200+ comments above (No aggro, keep it up) and I surprised at the doubt surrounding Buddy’s fitness. He had a great preseason, hurt his heel round one, was nursed along and was finally rested and now he is back and although he is on a modified training session he is training at least once a week. You must note that he is a proud and superb athlete. In the past he has annialated Carlton and he will do so again on tomorrow night. If you get him in this week at a ridiculous price you will get three games out of him before his bye.

  49. Noah says:

    Which 2 Out? Higgins, T Kelly or ZGL?

  50. Chicken says:

    Cripps into Gawn, gawn into grundy or cripps into grundy

  51. Florence Maxwell says:

    This site has fallen along way this year. Homophobic jokes about 'Gay Ablett' aren't cool or funny. Have some maturity please. Very disappointed Patch.

  52. Dale says:

    Is going to Cripps this week a bad move with him having a Rd12 bye? Should I just wait a week post bye

  53. Noah says:

    Who are the top 3 forwrads?

  54. Garry says:

    Heeney, McLean and Buddy

  55. Shake_n_Bake_ says:

    Mihocek to play this weekend.

  56. Marcus says:

    Thoughts on waiting a week on Rockliff?
    Would be my M9 anyway and should only go up 30k max

    • Dildor says:

      Exactly what im doing, seems like a decent option, it means i can get in Smith which will rise around 70, which if im planning on trading out smith at some point would net more at least 40k more than passing on him

  57. Laird Lad Donuts says:

    Ridley or Rice??

  58. Doc says:

    Alright lads, so I was pretty set on going Kelly to Rocky and Henry to Smith leaving me with about $500k but I'm not super confident that Rocky can keep fit so I thought if I get Boak instead I'll have a little bit more security in that he doesn't get injured as often as Rocky and he has DPP however I would only have $400k left. What are the communities thoughts?

    P.S Boak would be in the mid but I would be swinging him forward later. Probably during or after the byes

    • Davo says:

      Have done exactly the same thing, seeing Boak's name in my team feels a far safer fit and it gives me two mid/fwd swings which will help heaps through the byes.

    • Dale says:

      Similar situation. With rocky boak & Robinson (play mid swing fwd later … for your scenario it’d be boak . His dpp May come in handy through byes if u don’t have another link between mids and fwd

  59. Sammy_14 says:

    Who do you reckon i should downgrade to Tim Smith, Stephenson or Zac Fisher?

    • theRealPod says:

      Have a look at games ahead and judge who will potentially score better. Also check who has higher b/e. I like the look of Stephenson, he's growing in confidence and plays in a better side.

  60. Gem says:

    Would really like the two targets I should go for this week. 18 trades – 81K

    DEF: Laird, Simpson, Shaw, Yeo, Doedee, Sicily, (Cole, L Murphy)
    MID: Fyfe, Danger, Titch, Dusty, Cogs, T Kelly, Spargo, E Phillips (Barry, Brayshaw, Holman)
    RUC: Gawn, NicNat (Olango)
    FWD: Heeney, Maclean, Buddy, D Smith, Billings, Petracca (Guelfi, Fritsch)

    • BrownlowBoy says:

      Kelly and Brayshaw to Westhoff/Boak/Gray and Tim Smith via swining Heeney into the midfield for mine.

      • Sam_01 says:

        Yeah rate the trade above, would consider Walters aswell at his price instead of one of thOes port boys! If you can deal with the bye but he certainly is value

  61. JohnDJ59 says:

    So I trade in Howe due to donuts in my backline last week instead of Ryan because of round 14, Howe scores 59, Ryan 136 and goes up 49k in price and now Howe is an out for this weekend. I feel like screaming.

  62. Crowboy94 says:

    Going to be so many rookies to think about soon!

  63. Jono says:

    Should I trade in Heron for Naughton this week?

    I've already one 1 trade this week; Billings out and Walters in!! Leaves me with $417,200k in the bank with 16 trades left!! But could be 15 if I execute the trade listed above.

    My team is;
    Defenders; Laird,Yeo,Hurley,Tuohy, Witherden and Coffield. (Naughton and Redman)

    Mids: Dangerfield,Dusty,Mitchell,Fyfe,Higgins,McLean,Phillips and Spargo. (Crowden,Barry,England)

    Rucks: Gawn and Nic Nat (Cameron)

    Forwards; M.Robinson,Buddy,Walters,D.Smith,Stephenson and Fritsch. (Rayner and Garlett)

    • Sam_01 says:

      Do you really want a forward pocket from GC in your team? Atleast wait another week on him rice is a better trade in target or even Ridley probably worth bringing in T smith from melb also will make way more cash

      • Jono says:

        Yeah but atm I'm playing with 21!!

        • Sam_01 says:

          Wheres your 0?

          • Jono says:

            Coffield!!

            • seen_burns says:

              Sacrifice this week, Coffield to rice/Ridley & Rayner to T. Smith

              • Jono says:

                Yeah but if I trade in Heron this week at least I've got 22 playing this week, I'm thinking Naughton to Heron because Naughton is projected too lose cash next time he plays.Whereas Coffield has money to make!! And plus that trade ruins my bye structures!!

                • seen_burns says:

                  Naughton and Coffield aren't playing so you want be losing or gaining money with any of them, also you can hold Naughton through the byes or just trade him next week to Heron

                  • Jono says:

                    That's what I'm thinking because then I will be covered in the byes!! Thanks mate!!

                    • Sam_01 says:

                      Why are you not just trading naughton to rice or riddley?

                    • Jono says:

                      Because it affects bye structure so next week I'm going to get Heron for Naughton and the Dogs have the bye!! And I've decided to cop a 0 this week!!

                    • Sandyf62 says:

                      What's the difference between copping a donut now and one in a bye, Rice looks a better trade in.

                    • Sam_01 says:

                      If he gets heron in he is hoping to avoid 0 this week and have him through all the byes

                    • Jono says:

                      Yeah that's exactly right! Sam! So I will get Heron next week or this week?? I think I will cop a 0!!

                    • Sam_01 says:

                      If I were you I’d think of it points wise
                      I’d much rather have rice covering my 0s for the next few weeks than heron, we haven’t seen enough of him his job security is questionable pocket at gc could throw out some stinkers for what it’s worth I’d get rice in regardless of byes he will be a serviceable 60 odd generate more cash and probably more overall points in the byes even if it gets you another 0 one round

                    • Jono says:

                      Yeah but if I get Rice in he ruins by rd14 bye structures!! So I'm thinking I will cop a 0 this week then maybe get Heron next week!!

  64. Sam_01 says:

    Boys howe out with bone bruising could see him gone for 2 weeks and then into his bye, thoughts on this as a smoky trade, howe down to Walters via sicily swing and this will still allow me to get on Timmy smith aswell
    Have mirra and Howe in the backline both out I got rice and Duman to cover, is it worth trading him don’t really want to lose ranks playing Duman the spud and the trade nets me 100k
    Probably will wait to hear a bit more on the bruising, thoughts community?

  65. Steeeve says:

    Mirra dropped. Robbed.
    Not much chance Murphy gets a game either.
    So it's Naughton to Rice and Barry to Smith for me.
    Will have to pass on Walters/Rocky.

  66. Cpt says:

    Avoided the carnage again. Must have kissed a chinaman on the dick in a passed life?

    Sorry Floz, it’s a superstition thing not a gay thing.

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    • Russty_ says:

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  68. Kane Dudgeon says:

    awesome post!
    only problem is – everyone you named as a potential VC or C i have! so many decisions…only 2 possible outcomes, well 3. the third being I completely bugger it up!!
    Sydney VS Carlton
    Isaac Heeny will probably run amok in the forward/midfield as most of carlton's defense will trying to stop the Franklin Dam from bursting out!
    WBD vs Melbourne
    tough call – loads of ball winners, too many good horses in the race to risk a punt. Gawn has no competition.
    Hawks vs Portslide
    "IF" Ports midfield can feed Robbie Gray, he could have a partay!!
    GoldCoast Vs Geelong
    P Dangerfield 3 Votes
    Essendone vs Richmond
    No real winner here – lots of "maybe" if i was drunk…
    West Coast vs St Kilda
    J Darling vs D Webster – tight fight – andrew Gaff – could be a good bet for VC
    NthM vs Lions
    agreed – Zorko or Beams to get off the chain – Ben Brown is another option
    Gotwood vs Freo
    Fyfe vs Treloar – tough call – Brodie vs Sandilands…..
    Adel vs Great Western Singers
    Coniglio – as an outside captain choice

  69. Da_Boysh says:

    i want to go Macrae into Danger..

    I have titch, gawn fyfe etc..

    Somebody change my mind why should i not go macrae

  70. RobDog says:

    Murphy named for Crows.

  71. Jacob says:

    Fml duman and murphy in this week means i cant loop vc/c. Im thinking i captain gawn but would love others thoughts. Fyfe, danger, gawn, titch, dusty or cripps???

  72. Jacob says:

    Need to field 1 out of holman, phillips, t.smith, spargo or guelfi…. thoughts community? Cheers!

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