CAPTAINCY CHAT with Lekdog and Patch

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PATCH: Gday community, Patchy and Lek here. Post MaSloane has had to hang his captaincy hat up for the season with life commitments eating into valuable captaincy analysis time. He’s done a ripper job so far this season and thank him from the bottom of our hearts for the work he’s done. So, your homeboys are here to have a good old chinwag about captaincy options.

LEKDOG: Patchy! Let’s talk captaincy options for the week.

PATCH: Yes, let’s. We’ll crack into the first game, Hawthorn vs Sydney and there’s pretty much no reason to not VC Tom Mitchell if you have him, right? 127 last week and despite a poor run over the past three, you can’t ignore a bloke who’s able to pick up 50 touches a game. If you DON’T have Titch, do you look at VCing anyone? Heeney? JPK if you brought him in?

LEKDOG: I’ll pass on guys like Heeney, Buddy or Parker (please god be good soon Parker) but JPK entices me…well he would if you HADN’T TALKED ME OUT OF HIM. Kennedy is actually my choice ahead of Titch. He’s in bloody good form, averages 114.1 against the Hawks and does ok at the ‘G with an average of 92.5. His last three against the Hawks netted him 119, 118 and 50.

PATCH: #sorrynotsorry. The first of six??? Saturday games is GWS v West Coast and… well… For two sides teeming with talent, there aren’t a lot of Fantasy options here to VC here. You know know who we shouldn’t VC in this game? Lachie Whitfield. Because he’s not Patrick Cripps AND NEVER BLOODY WILL BE. You’re costing me first place in Supercoach, Lachie. FIRST PLACE. I will not rest until the round I can trade you out of my godfosaken side. I. WILL. NOT. REST.

LEKDOGSix games is too many for someone who likes to watch all of the games…or do we always have six? Who knows #research. 
I’d be looking at a VC on Yeo who averages 100 against GWs and 104 at Spotless Padium or maybe Nic Nat because does maths GWS are allowing 113.9 points per game to opposition ruckmen in 2018. WAIT WHAT!?! They’ve played against like Tom Hickey and Rhys Stanley…wow.

PATCH: Elliot Yeo is certainly a good pick there, but we’ve got to rely on the tribunal not suspending Nic Nat to see him monster the all-Australian ruckman… *checks notes, doublechecks notes and clears throat* …Lachie Keefe.

Onto what will undoubtably be the worst match of the round in Essendon and Carlton – two highly skilled teams in good form who have all of their good players playing. God it’ll be the worst. Zachy Merrett is averaging a Jackson Merrett-like 81 for the season and 91 over the past five rounds and I don’t like it one little bit. I’m not throwing the VC or C on a bloke with a top score of 114.

Considering Carlton will win by 47 goals and Patrick Cripps will collect 297 contested possessions against the weak Essendon midfield, he’s got to be the go-to man unless you’re brave enough to try Old Man Simpson in the sleeves. But in the wet and the cold you’ve got to go Paddy, surely? Only scored 100 against us last time, which was also cold and also wet and we also lost because Carlton are our bogey side and I hate it.

LEKDOG: If Nic Nat is out, a sly VC on Lycett wouldn’t be awful. Cripps. Lock him in. Alternatively Jackson Merrett or Marc Murphy if he gets up…Jacko is in 500 more teams than Murphy by the way, the world is a strange place. Now onto an equally as good game, Melbourne v Gold Coast. Only one man we should be thinking about here.

Actually make that two, Clarry and Gawn are both pretty good. Are we calling him Clarry? Is that a thing now?

PATCH: Sounds scrappy enough to suit him. We’ll go with Clarry. Partly because I’m not clever enough to think of a witty joke about him not having a soul because he has red hair. I don’t mind a sneaky Jarrod Witts VC if you’ve got him, considering he’s scored well against good ruckmen this year. Goldstein (131), Stefan Martin (117) and… uh… Tim English (114) have all had tons against their name, but if he’s going to be eaten alive – literally consumed while his heart still beats, torn limb from bloody limb in a screaming mess of man-meat – it’ll be by Maxwell Gawn, Esquire.

Onto the showdown and there’s one man on my mind here. Robert the Gray. ROBBIE. Could go absolutely bananas, but by here most people will have used their VC loop, so I’d be avoiding him for the C. If you’ve got Lynch from the Pies you could consider it, but the game later on Saturday night is where my true heart lies in this weekend’s games, unless you’ve got someone who stands out in the Showdown?

LEKDOG: Another bloody showdown, I swear this happens every fortnight. Matt Crouch, great buy-in option this week by the way, has scored 100 and 122 over the last two weeks. Averages 102 against Port and scored 139 against them in Round 20 last year. Nothing else worth talking about here I reckon. Another big matchup here with the Doggies taking on the bigger-catties (Lions). Macrae, Macrae, Macrae all day and twice on Saturday. Averages 119 against the Lions and his past three scores against them are 96, 121, 162…he could hit the double ton here. Dayne Zorko as a smokie.

PATCH: Will he get tagged though? After last week where he melted the Suns on Mars (see what I did there?), surely Mitch Robinson (another great buy-in option) goes to follow him around and rough him up? I dunno, the Lions can be pretty dumb though. Remember that time they traded Fev in? Hysterical. Gets me every time.

The Community’s darling Toby McLean had an incredible game last weekend, don’t reckon he backs it up for mine. So that leaves Zorko (who will continue to be bad, don’t bring him in yet and I know I said that last week about JPK but I mean it this time) and Macrae, and Macrae would be absolutely locked away as captain…

…if it weren’t for Nathaniel Fyfe playing St Kilda in Perth at the exact same time.

LEKDOG: Speaking of Fyfe… He actually doesn’t like playing the Saints and doesn’t do it very often. I love him and he’s a gun but I’m avoiding the C on him this week. Lachie Neale is much more appealing with scores of 123, 118 and 117 in his last three against the Saints. Jackl Steven is a sneaky Saints option if you’ve got him but let’s be honest you don’t and St Kilda are bad so why risk it?

PATCH: JACK BILLINGS CAPTAIN. LOCK IT UP AND BAKE IT AWAY, TOYS.

LEKDOG: Trade him in, I dare you. I DARE YOU. 

PATCH: Double dog dare, AROOOOOOOOO! Moving on from such frivilities, can we talk about Dusty? It’s been nearly a month since he tonned up. What is going on here? Is he injured? Is he hurt? Is he struggling emotionally with the sudden death of a beloved pot plant? We may never know, but what we do know is to avoid him.

Dusty averages 115 against the Roos, which is A LOT, but also that Ben Jacobs bloke is a thing and he’s either be tagged or sent forward to get away from Jacobs. As for North Melbourne, Shaun Higgins isn’t bad. 122 in round 4, 61 in a half before being decapitated against Hawthorn, one week off and then a 123 last week. Pity no-one has him, but one to look at? Maybe?

LEKDOG: You never mention that man’s name to me again. This game is too late to VC loophole so just avoid it community! The final game for all of you C options is Pies v Cats. The obvious one for me now that Pendles is injured (he may play but he’ll be sore) is Joel Selwood. Averages 100 against the Pies and 105 at the ‘G although his past few games against them have been rough. I still like him. I don’t like Dangerfield for this game, this should be the perfect Danger game. Why is this happening to us?

PATCH: Random fun fact: Shaun Higgins is averaging 101 points more than Sam Docherty this season. Wow! Me saying things like that is probably why the Supercoach gods keep breaking things I touch. That includes Patrick Dangerfield. This is the sort of game we’d have loved last year – giving us the chance to VC literally anyone and whack the C on Paddy if it fell through. Can’t touch him here, and would steer clear of Pendles.

I like Mitch Duncan after his 134 last week, but my smokie is Adam Treloar. Averaging 128 over his past three games and 115 for the year, he’d be one I’d heavily consider this week considering Joel’s record against the Cats. Pity no-one has him. Lek – who is your VC and C as we speak?

LEKDOG: You bastard. Oliver into Selwood.

PATCH:  I’m currently running a Titch/Fyfe combination, but I reckon you’ve convinced me to put the captaincy on Macrae. Community – stay tuned for tomorrow’s cheat sheet! Until then, let us know what you’re thinking for captaincy options!

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  1. Jim_bob321 says:

    Hey community,
    Would it be worth to either trade in Macrae or Mclean with both having low BE's?
    Have the money to do one of these trades… Finlayson to Macrae/Mclean
    Need one more upgrade to have all premos except kelly in the midfield (already have Bont)
    And forward consists of Buddy, Sicily, Smith, Spargo, Gray, Fritsch/Henry
    Cheers

    • Stirlsy says:

      Depends on byes Jim-bob but id take the mid first and get that to where you want it.

  2. Stirlsy says:

    Couldn't care less about this right now….. its all about NicNat at the moment boys……

    • Patch says:

      Flabbergasted. Confused. Hurt. What has happened to our game?

      • SC_Sixty6 says:

        Footy is dead. I'll regroup soon but can't get past the fact you look at Cotch's hit on shiel last year….chose to bump and concussed him…..where's the duty of care? Oh wait a GF had to be played. Move along.

        Different rules for different players.

        • DavidC says:

          Cotchin didn't choose to bump, he was just going for the ball, eyes on the ball all the way. But you are right, the GF saved him.

      • BloodyFranklin says:

        In all honesty I have to say that this isn't surprising at all. The legitimacy of the AFL has been questionable for many years now and Nic Nat's suspension is just another nail in the coffin. Alongside the "rules" being modified each year, the game changes also and what is considered fair one season could potentially be deemed as a reportable offence the next. The inconsistency is unbearable and I can only imagine how frustrating that is for the players… let alone the fans. I'm reading comments like "RIP The Tackle 2018" and "Footy died today!"… Footy died fuuckin years ago. Want to see the real Australian Rules Football? Go watch a game of NTFL, or even the WKFL ( I only used these as examples as I am relatively familiar with them ) or one of the many other similar rural leagues, nationwide… The leagues where you only get ruled out if you get KTFO. That's where you can observe our beautiful game in all it's glory. That's where the unsung heroes mix blood with mud (and in some instances probably just shit and dirt).

        If the AFL is so concerned about the head of the players, why not make helmets mandatory?

        … You know why? …

        Because that's not the fuucking game.

    • Gord29 says:

      Was nothing in the NicNat tackle! The point Micheal Christan made on the Verdict about him being bigger and not using duty care is ridiculous when you compare it to Tom Hawkins knee in the back getting away with a fine espically with what happened to Tom Lonergan. That was reckless with intent to course him to hurt and completely avoidable

  3. BrownlowBoy says:

    Nic Nat gone

  4. Mr_Pink_ says:

    That decision is embarrassing for the AFL… particularly given the leniency shown to Steele Sidebottom and Ryan Burton this year… Michael Christian needs to have a good hard look at himself

    • Jack says:

      Um, why does Michael Christian need to have a good hard look at himself? Because, he gave NicNat 1 week which was in line which rules that had been put into place not by himself…..Furthermore, the 1 week was upheld by a tribunal which he was no part of??? I'm confused.

      Not having a go at your personally Mr.Pink as I've seen many on here write things worse than what you have, I'm just staggered that people can't see why this wasn't a reportable offence giving the AFLs focus on protecting the players head.

      Quite simply if he wanted to tackle in that fashion, he had to roll the player to make sure his head didn't hit the ground. He didn't, and the player received concussion.

      • Crowboy94 says:

        Michael Christian is a FLOG!

        • Jack says:

          Not sure what a flog is but are you angry with him because you have NicNat on your Supercoach team? How dare he….

          • Rakesh Mohan says:

            So we are expecting a player to not play but use his head to think side ways tackle, lesser impact, head save blah blah ……. Are we playing footy or some mental game? You have to be genius to know and take care of every thing. Only 2 steps and a decision to be made. Head is important but then we do have sports like boxing. These guys make so many rules like politicians make committees.

          • Laird Lad Donuts says:

            Didn't even wrap his arms he was within the rules which is a player is ALLOWED to tackle, what was nic nat supossed to do jack? sit and watch him run away? the games getting softer and softer and i really am starting to lose the passion because of political correctness and do gooders like you

          • Crowboy94 says:

            Maybe you are right. You are the flog 😂. And no I dont have Nic Nat.

      • Mr_Pink_ says:

        Hi Jack – I don't think the AFL are serious about protecting the head… that was my point. I saw Steele Sidebottom lay the exact tackle on Zac Fisher earlier this year the AFL don't like. Sling, 2 actions, arms pinned, head into turf… only a fine. The reason…? He didn't get concussed. If that exact same tackle was laid on Patty McCartin he would have been out for 6 weeks… you can't have a judicial system based on outcomes (different players can take different levels of physicality) if you want to clean up the game. Base your decisions on the action! Ryan Burton then puts Shaun Higgins into hospital overnight… severe concussion and even a bit of plastic surgery. Outcome from MRO…? Not even a fine…. Apparently this bump was not unreasonable and was a football action. You can surely see how your average football fan (and I am a football fan above all else – I watch a hell of a lot of this sport and grew up immersed in it) is confused… I'm ok with the suspension if I thought the AFL was serious about concussion.

        • Stirlsy says:

          Better wrap and send that one too Mr Pink, better still take over Gills position at least you make sense.

        • SC_Sixty6 says:

          Spot on Mr. PINK! Have a look at Cotchin last year on Shiel…..their excuse more or less 'a player can't miss a GF'

          • Maverick_ says:

            Unless it’s the AFLW sixty6. Then again it’s a whole new standard. Look at poor Katie Brennan. The system is inconsistent and a joke.

        • Whatyasmokin says:

          Well said Mr.Pink, its a ridiculous state of affairs honestly.

    • Husky says:

      Racist….

      • Russty_ says:

        Maybe Christian should be thrown to the Lions?…but that's not Racism, that's religious persecution. 🙂

    • HumanBob says:

      According to current court action a former sun might think that maybe if NicNat was a lighter but not in the weight department he could have gotten off.

  5. Crowboy94 says:

    #thetackleisdead!

  6. Sc_Wow says:

    So big people can’t tackle little people anymore I guess.
    Joke

    • Mr_Pink_ says:

      Apparently a player has a split second to estimate how much his opponent weighs, wrap him up correctly, turn him exactly 180-185 degrees, land beneath him to ensure he has a nice soft cushion, ask him how he is on his way down and serve him a cup of tea…

    • SC_Sixty_6 says:

      The big person shouldn't drive the little person's head into the ground

      • Laird Lad Donuts says:

        He simply tackled him, then momentum took its course, Perfect tackle did not even wrap his arms up giving amon a way to protect his head, footy is a contact sport and contact should be expected

        • Russty_ says:

          Agree Laird, and sometimes accidents happen and guys get hurt, usually the weaker, less prepared guys like Amon, no one drove anyone's head into the ground fake SC66

          • Laird Lad Donuts says:

            Ridiculous what the AFL and the media is doing to our beloved sport! i guess the people that are saying he should be suspended are also the guys and girls that have never player a game of footy in there life, or complained if they didn't make the team because everyone should get a go and its "not fair"

            • Whatyasmokin says:

              The media has far too much power and influence, not just talking about football when I say Australia puts up with garbage left right and centre, and narrow minded or agenda driven views.

              Its actually kinda pathetic we as Australians let the media and politicians shape Australia, as its the citizen's country when it comes down to it, but is all too easily forgotten.

              • Sc_Wow says:

                People choose to believe it all. Narrow minded people that can’t critically think for them selfs which is the problem

                • Whatyasmokin says:

                  Yep its interesting to witness the evolution of the circus that is the media.

                  (And dont get me wrong not everybody in the media is negatively affecting viewpoints etc)

    • SC_Sixty6 says:

      Wow you wanted him suspended…..

      • Sc_Wow says:

        Helps that a few blokes ahead of me have him. But it’s bad for AFL

  7. StevoRivo says:

    Oh crap! If Crouching was here, he would fly-kick Michael Christian all the way to Pyamma!
    Nic Nat / Olango loop dead this week.
    Trade or hold NicNat community? If so, who is or new R2?

    • Stirlsy says:

      If you have say 24 plus trades and were in top 3000, you could think about it but if you have fewer trades then that, its take the donut.
      I'm ranked inside top 1000 and have my plans in place I want to double downgrade this week and wont budge from the plan and ill be eating a donut when Weagles take on GWS.

      • StevoRivo says:

        Thanks Stirlsy. Currently ranked 2400 with 24 trades & $140k. So yes it’s tempting. Thinking NicNat & Garlett to Grundy & Spargo. Altenative is to cop the donut and move Holman or Finlayson to Macrae or Crouch.

      • StevoRivo says:

        NicNat & Langdon to Grundy & Spargo. Very tempting.

      • SC_Sixty6 says:

        I'd go by how many premos you have left to fill. The top tier have 4-5 to fill. Taking Kelly into account which will most likely be a straight swap then you'd need 9 trades to full premo. 8-10 trades for injuries surely plenty.

        • StevoRivo says:

          Thanks SC 66, my team is 7 players off full premo if you incl T.Kelly & that rubbish in mid price Petracca. So yes it’s a line ball call. It’s just painful to cop a donut at this point.

  8. Stirlsy says:

    OK im over my crying ill take the [email protected]#$%@n donut ….. Now what was the question ….. oh yes Captains and VC …… Titch into Fyfe or Gawn for me…

  9. redherringfc says:

    With Nic Nat out, should I put Lycett on field ahead of Kreuzer this week?

    Lycett was getting traded out until the news on Nic Nat came through.

  10. Ahmad rubas says:

    Thoughts on banfield to spargo and Holman to Sicily via crowden dpp

    • Stirlsy says:

      Spargo looks like a must have rook, other trade looks ok but he can stuff up Sicily the odd low score plus he hasn't hit anyone yet, just showed Jelwood his knees and walked all over some other guy.
      But been in my side since the start.

      • Ahmad rubas says:

        Yeah he could easily get suspended again but his scoring potential looks really good and if I don't get him now he will be more than 500k plus he has useful DPP. Ideally I would of traded Sicily in last week and titch this week but did it the other way around

  11. BlueBaggerJosh says:

    Hey guys ranked 3000 and wondering whether I should do what's best for my personal league or rank. My initial plans were Holman-Spargo and Billings-Sicily. Should I change my second trade to flick Nic Nat/Olango or just cop it? I'm leaning towards copping the donut because I'm low on trades (19 left, been aggressive and fairly close to full premo) What are you all doing?

    • StevoRivo says:

      See Stirlsys comments above. Anything less than 24 trades and you’re best to cop the donut on NicNat. That suggests you stick with the initial trade plans.

    • Stirlsy says:

      Iv got 22 left and taking the donut, and staying with my plans to dbl down this week, now if I can find 2 woman to assist me ill be laughing.

      • Stirlsy says:

        Sorry my last comment might be outside the AFLs code of conduct, Lek and Patch will sit in judgement tomorrow nite to let me off or give me a week off…..
        Save me Community!!!

    • Holty01 says:

      If you only have a couple of upgrades to do, id say 19 is plenty. I think if you can get to full premo with 10 trades left u have done well.

  12. Kkk says:

    Didnt get any bites on my last post so thought i would try again.
    Need ronke and spargo, who do i trade this week out of billings, holman and garlett. Want all 3 gone…. Thoughts community? Cheers!

    • Stirlsy says:

      Hard to say Kkk, everyone is in different phases at the moment with their teams, Billings can't go down anymore can he?
      So without seeing yr team my advice would be to DBL down grade …. the Rookies

      • Kkk says:

        Billings has a b/e of 122 so pretty sure he wont be making that. Sunday was the first time watching him for the season, just looks lost out there! He was the one i wanted gone most, but thanks for advice mate!

        • Stirlsy says:

          Yeah ok then Billings and Garlett as Holty said Holman is fine for another week im holding him on bench just has that 33 still in cycle so limits his money making.

    • Holty01 says:

      Billings and Garlett first. Holman next week

      • belly button fluff says:

        Well long term I'd agree Holman. even keeping him for the bye. But if your getting rid of the three no matter what I would bet that Garlett gets more than Holman this week. not strong on stopping little annoying forwards or anyone Essendon atm.

        • belly button fluff says:

          Then again I did start the year with Weitering. Ruined the season first round. So could be wrong. Too late Holty I don't want to bet now… ;P

    • belly button fluff says:

      keep garlett for a this week if your absolutely set on removing those three. Garlett may actually accidentally score well against Essendon this week. IMO. Billings is actually dead, otherwise I would have said keep him one more since you have already lost all the money now. But he is dead RIP.

    • Kkk says:

      Lol conflicting opinions on here, was planning on doing what you suggested holty01 but have got the same feeling as belly button fluff (nice name) and can see garlett going well, this is why i came to the community!! Not really much clearer on what to do haha. Cheers for the feedback though!

    • Patch says:

      Personally on the side of getting rid of the two rookies. Billings can't keep being this awful, can he? Surely not. I'm in the hold camp but boy oh boy I wouldn't begrudge anyone from shooting him into the sun.

      • Holty01 says:

        Hey Patch, where are you ranked mate? The community already knows but we would love to hear it again.

        • Patch says:

          I'm not big on tooting the horn on it. I think it's 198? Or 197?

          It'll all come crashing down shortly though, I have no doubt.

      • Kkk says:

        Thanks for that patch! Now i literally have no idea what im gonna do, was set on moving him on, now i dont know. Trading zorko 2 weeks back seems to have burnt me, good chance billings would do the same. This game is so frustrating!!

        • Russty_ says:

          Hey Ku Klux Klan, don't think you need Ronke, Buddy could be back this week, I'd punt Billings and Garlett, and hold on Holman a bit longer. Gives you more money to do stuff with.

        • Patch says:

          It's an absolute quagmire that Jack Billings, but he can't get any worse, can he?

          Personally I think the time to flick him has gone but won't look you in the eye and say you have to hold him – he's been god awful and you're within your rights to shoot him into the sun.

    • JohnDJ59 says:

      Billings to Spargo, Garlett to Ronke. Holman could wait a week or so.

  13. Corey says:

    Captaincy Option
    1. Titch into Cripps?
    Or
    2. Titch into Fyfe?

    • Valens_FC says:

      Make a decision when there’s a decision to be made…. see how Titch goes first, hopefully a 150 and on to next week!

    • JohnDJ59 says:

      Titch into Fyfe, Fyfe at home against the Saints, could go huge.

    • Patch says:

      Reckon Cripps could demolish the Dons this week Corey

  14. Tyruddanaut says:

    IM copping a doughnut this week. I don’t think Crossley will outweigh the value of OLango and I think I will only lose 20-30 point with a Finlayson to Hurn upgrade. Just love Hurns efficiency.

  15. Sam_01 says:

    Community I am currently 1362 playing for ranks, have the nicnat dilemma but most importantly I’m playing my mate and can’t afford to lose to him haha.
    Is it worth just upgrading Finlayson to Simpson and a rookie down to Spargo or should I
    Get Spargo and also trade up big olango to mcinerny or a back up if there is any?
    Or Spargo in and just get grundie was planning on waiting till the bye for that though
    Thanks community

    • Patch says:

      Ranked at 1362 you'd almost have to back your side in to beat the mate without NicNat. As a few others have said above I can't personally justify a trade on Nic Nat or in the rucks – I'd be copping the donut and focusing on Spargo and upgrading elsewhere, Sam

      • Sam_01 says:

        Thanks for the words of wisdom patcho! Look initially I did back myself to win but he is getting inside my head hahah. Looks like I’ll be bringing in old mate simmo and hopefully he tears Essendon up

  16. Dale says:

    Alright so I’m in a pickle I have nicnat and traded him in 2 weeks ago. Olango is R3. I have 22 trades so
    Am I best to trade olango to crossley or McInerny rather than trade nicnat or cop a 0.

    • Patch says:

      I'd cop the donut, Dale. Just not worth it for the one week for mine mate. It stings but there's not much we can do.

      • dale says:

        I hate the thought of a 0 patch and using a trade on olango.
        before this all went down i had my trades locked in as
        murray/finlayson >> ronke via sicily DPP
        & holman >> M.crouch.
        not touching my rucks still allows this so i think your right maybe the 0 is the way to go
        for the long term!

        • Stirlsy says:

          Stick to yr plans Dale, im inside top 1000 (876) and its donut time for me, Simply not worth the trade for a possible 60 extra points.

          • Russty_ says:

            Agree Stirlsy, sometimes you've just gotta take one for the Team.

            • WithAllDueRespect says:

              Ranked 652 and I am not taking a donut. Crossley will be in if picked tonight for Olango. Handy for bye rounds too if keeps his position. The Big O has same bye round as Gawn.

              • DavidC says:

                He won't keep his position, he will last until his bye round. May is back this week, Lynch after the GC bye, and 2 meter Peter is gaining match fitness in the magoos. If you are going to trade Olango, at least the big O might get regular games so you will have backup going forward.

  17. TRIGGA_HAPPY says:

    Well looks like i will be joining the nic nat flavoured donut club.
    U never know cameron might come in after some good form in the magoos. Cmon horse only need a week mate.
    Dont think i will change my plans to bring in crouch put holman on the bench.
    Hoping this covers the loss in nic nats points and saves a trade.
    May as well keep pushin.

    • Russty_ says:

      It's only one week Trig, heard Nank might miss too?…bloody hell, looks like I might be copping one too, certainly won't be trading him out for missing one week.

    • INPieman says:

      Still can't decide if I bring in McInerney or take the donut. It would stall the upgrade process. I hate donuts

    • neil demons delight says:

      I am going to see who I play in TRIGGS HAPPY LEAGUE.. Want to make finals there nothings else counts

      • neil demons delight says:

        Dammit got SHAKE good thing is he has the same rucks IF you're seeing this SHAKE I will cop a doughnut if NANK is rested cheers and good luck Shake but not too much

        • Shake_n_Bake_ says:

          Haha l dont think Nank will be rested. Not many changes to my side Neil, Spargo will get a gig so unless any other surprises at the selection table l will remain the same.

  18. Finnius says:

    Trade Brayshaw or Holman this week??

    • Russty_ says:

      Hi Finn, I reckon hold Holman a bit longer, unless you have to trade Holman to get the upgrade you want…seems to have a much higher potential than Brayshaw so far.

    • Stirlsy says:

      Toss a coin

  19. Russty_ says:

    If a guy trying to kick the Ball, kicks some guy's leg, and breaks his leg…is that a dangerous kick?…. for him to be rubbed out for weeks, or is it just an unfortunate incident on the Footy field?
    Unbelievable Nicnat got a week for that, they might as well all wear helmets and Sumo Wrestler blow up suits..so no one gets hurt, ever.

    • Cyriledagain says:

      Sorry Rusty, but cant agree. Deserved a week – no duty of care and potentially very dangerous.

      • Russty_ says:

        Mate…duty of care is only something recently invented, there was no such thing in the history of Footy, if anything it's Amon's duty of care to make sure he's strong enough to be able to handle AFL Footy, it was accidental, nothing intentionally dangerous about it.

      • Laird Lad Donuts says:

        So he deserved a week for being stronger than amon and laying a perfect tackle on him, what do you expect, duty of care, pftt please go watch another sport

        • Fab 3 says:

          Wasn't a perfect tackle it was with force in the back, and any occurrence on the ground can be deemed dangerous enough to be reported, or soft enough not to even pass as a free.

    • Stirlsy says:

      I think the all wear helmets thing is just around the corner Russty, the AFL will have to tell players they recommend helmet use, to cover their arses on litigation down the track.

      • Russty_ says:

        Hi Stirsly, understand that point of view mate but if you look at the NFL, and how they all wear helmets, and I don't know if you've seen that movie 'Concussion' (true story) or not…but the Doctor that pursued that case actually proved that the player's heads being whacked against the Helmets during an impact contributes to a worse concussion, so not sure if that would solve the problem…maybe the soft type 'Caleb Daniel' Helmets would be a better option?
        It's kind of like professional surfing, all professional surfers know they could get eaten by a shark at any time, it's their choice to be out there in the shark's habitat.

        • Stirlsy says:

          Yes im not talking the Knakle helmet style thing he was the one who wore the motorbike helmet played for Sainters but more the Daniel style just think with the class action against AFL now from older players, it will give AFL no option to at least recommend the use of Helmets.
          It should always be up to the player if they want to wear them but that day sadly is coming.

          • Russty_ says:

            I think if that happens, it'll look like a bunch of Westworld Robots playing eachother . .Could dramatically reduce the appeal for the public if all player's heads look the same.

          • neil demons delight says:

            Reckon RUSSTY would know about the mushroom head NARGLE. He would fit in good now another shocker pick

  20. SC_Sixty6 says:

    Nic nat VC and C.

    • Russty_ says:

      Come on mate, you're doing too well to have a meltdown now, get it together man 🙂

      • SC_Sixty6 says:

        Yeh you're right. I'll just trade everyweek from here on in until I run out of trades.

        • Russty_ says:

          If it's any consolation, I have Nank and apparently, he might miss this week too!, if you traded anyone in this week, they could make up for lost Nicnat points, and Nic has only scored 70 and 93 last 2 weeks so you might not miss out on much at all.

          • SC_Sixty6 says:

            I will either continue with the inclusions of Yeo/Spargo and cop a donut or will go Grundy/Spargo. Grundy has had 200 more points than NIC NAT over the 7 rounds…..if that continues he will have accumulated around 700 more points for the year. 500 I could cash in on.

            Hopefully Nank plays for ya.

            • DavidSA says:

              66 I think the best way to get out of it is 1) cop the donut and comtinue full premo trading 2) put VC on POD you think can go 150 or more to make up the lose of pts

              Yeo without Shuey could go huge. GWS don't tag they still have no ruckman to contend Lycett

  21. Will says:

    Who goes first, Doedee or Petracca?

  22. SC_Sixty6 says:

    Currently Grundy has accumulated 200 points more than NIC NAT in 7 rounds. Should the scoring trend continue he will have around 700+ come end of year.

    Cop a donut or take the #1/#2 ruck for 2018. Yeo was going to be my inclusion for finlayson but Yeo does have a 115 BE or there abouts.

    • Russty_ says:

      Hey 66, I'd say if you think Nicnat was a mistake, and Grundy is going to be number 2 after Gawn, go for it, I know you blokes play for rankings so maybe biting the bullet is a better option…as you stated with Yeo's BE, you could afford to wait a bit on him, Finlayson IMO, could bounce back and still knock out a few better scores than the last 2 weeks.

      • SC_Sixty6 says:

        I only got NIC NAT because kruezer went down rd 1. Rucks weren't clear then. Top 3 ranked blokes have NIC NAT so will be interesting what they do.

        I would still offload finlayson and use Sicily DPP to then get Spargo up fwd. I rate his scoring potential.

        • Stirlsy says:

          I know the guy ranked 3rd 66 his not to happy about Nic being out….lol his even more worried English will be rested.

    • Stirlsy says:

      NicNat has scored ok for his Gametime, but thats the thing with him, he still hasn't been given that extra gametime, are they using him in bursts and this will be the trend till at least the bye rounds, unless a game is close that they want to win id expect this trend to continue at about 60%….
      The downside SC66 is Gawn Grundy have same bye but that shouldn't be a major problem by the time it rolls around, yr other premo's can cover, you only need 18 after all.

      • SC_Sixty6 says:

        Yeh I checked the byes. Rd 14 for most is the trouble round for fielding 18.

        What's your mate doing ranked 3rd in terms of NIC NAT?

        • DavidSA says:

          Hate them situations when you are right up there

          It's easy for people out of the running just cop the <img draggable="false" class="emoji" alt="🍩" src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/2.4/svg/1f369.svg"&gt;
          Do tell what your trades were 66 it's tough very tough

          • SC_Sixty6 says:

            Still undecided atm. Can't stand the thought of copping a donut. As I said before if the scoring avg continues with Grundy and NIC NAT then I'm better off getting Grundy! 100 odd less points I have to make up again. In the long run. After all we are after the top scoring players in their respective positions.

            • DavidSA says:

              What makes it worse is that Nic has not made any coin. If he were say 550k it would be an easier move

  23. Kevdup says:

    Not sure if this is a common theme. Each year, I race towards the finals in my leagues, then limp through and get my butt kicked with no trades and a team short of full premiums. (not interested in overall rank, just my leagues)
    I have the likes of Kelly/Greene (GWS), Buddy warming my bench. Is it best to cash in guys like Finlayson, Holman, Doedee with rooks to build cash for premos, or rather trade under performing rookies like Fogarty and Barry? Any tips to kick A in my leagues will be appreciated!

    • The Ranger says:

      Hold your premiums if you can and trade your fat rookies Kevdup. You want rookies to make 150K or more ideally.
      Finlayson down to Spargo should allow you to upgrade another rookie to a premo. Crouch is nicely priced.
      Or you could go Holman down to Mutch too which would give you a big bank for next week.
      With injuries I tend to trade if I know or think I know that they'll be out for 3wks or more.

      • Kevdup says:

        Cheers thanks Ranger, I have the Fin in def, considering go Holman to Spargo and Fin to Simmo. Ty

    • TheGreatBozza says:

      If your focusing on leagues only, try to preserve your trades! Last season in my only cash league I finished off the season on 12-1 run and had 7 trades for 4 weeks of finals.

      As Ranger has said, time your rookie culls perfectly and try to hold an injured player if possible. This week I'd look to cash in a Barry and Fogarty who look like dead weight. Holman can still make cash while Finalyson/Doedee are good to the byes!

  24. hedski says:

    I will be if English is rested, if that happens I'd be tempted to cash him in for Oscar and build the warchest, would mean holding Billings tho.

  25. hedski says:

    Thanks for all your hard work Post, good luck for the rest of the year.
    Titch into Fyfe atm, could change.

  26. Andrew says:

    I have Laird, Simpson and Hibberd as my defensive premos (loose term for Hibberd) – who is best to get in for Murray – Hurley, Yeo or someone else?

    • Davo says:

      I am going Yeo as with Shuey out it can only help, but Hurley will be required at some stage, might depend on your bye rounds structures.

      • Andrew says:

        Primarily care about league so I think I'm just going to tank R14

  27. Banga says:

    Pick 2 to trade out for Crouch and Spargo. Got 28k in the bank before these trades

    Findlayson
    Dow
    Tracca
    Billings

  28. Adam says:

    Cripps into Fyfe, pending on where my opponent
    Goes it may change
    Murray into Hurn only trade this week

  29. SC_Kev7 says:

    Great work guys, nice read. Teams pending Olango will be my only loop, so that limits me to Sicily or Titch tomorrow night. I'm leaning towards Titch and we'll go from there

    • Jim_bob321 says:

      Have the seen the weather expected for Melbourne???
      Going to wreak havoc

    • Patch says:

      Cheers Kev! Will be in the same boat if Murphy is named, and Titch wins that battle for mine.

      • SC_Sixty6 says:

        I'm looking forward to seeing Oliver destroy GC with the crisp weather on Saturday. Goodluck in Adelaide and Melbourne with top scores!

  30. stockman007 says:

    Dustin Martin to macrae? Before dusty goes down even further and while I can afford Macrae?

  31. JugHead says:

    Will be an interesting week or two for filling the last premo mid spots. Starting Danger, Zerret and Josh Kelly has kept me behind the eight ball all season so far.
    Crouch and JPK look great value this week. Next week Dusty and Oliver.
    I strongly believe grabbing the right premo mids when their price is right goes a long way in determining your season.
    With the current price of some of these premo mids, Im surprised to see ppl talking about their def/fwd upgrades and ruck worries. NOW is the time to grab some of these guys, irrespective of other lines.
    Turning a 75 averaging def cow with good JS into a 95 avg def premo is not as important as turning a mid cow into a premo mid with a potentially much higher ceiling.
    Personally, I'm turning the Petracca experiment into Spargo to generate cash with no regrets.
    Good luck choosing the right mid premos all. Thats where the rubber hits the road.

    • Greg says:

      Sometimes easier said than done, feel it's a bit of a balancing act – I'm about 7k short of doing Holman to Spargo and Brayshaw to Crouch. Could get there if I get rid of Dow instead but there's still a little bit of cash to be made, which I need to keep in mind for upgrading Fritsch / Henry to Robbie Gray in a few weeks.

      I've now got 4/5 rookies not making any cash in Mirra, Murphy, Guelfi, Barry and Olango which is concerning.

    • Sc_Wow says:

      Most people only have Kelly at M8. No need to upgrade him yet so it leaves the other lines free to upgrade

      • neil demons delight says:

        Agree WOW my last spot was macrae only Kelly left in mids. Question for WOW / the ppl still in contention like yourself what would you do with N N like No 1 2 3 who all have him . would you kill a trade to say GRUNDY or wear it . It certainly gives ppl like you only 1 00 — 200 behind a great chance Easy for us league guys -wear it

  32. The Ranger says:

    Big shout to Post for stepping up and writing these articles for the last seven rounds.
    Onya mate.
    Titch into Fyfe for me this week.

  33. DDown says:

    I think this week has to be a double downgrade… no real bubbles next week.

  34. Sheldon says:

    Are we holding any hopes of Mutch, Worpel keeping their spots for much longer?

    • Keenbutclueless says:

      Clarko has flagged that there may only be one change this week, with Henderson coming back. Makes Worpel a 50/50 shot, I reckon. Like Mutch’s chances. Not sure outside of Fantasia that there is a Long list outside of the team knocking down the selection door. Personally I think Tippa will get a rest before Mutch gets dropped

  35. TheGreatBozza says:

    Am i mad for taking a punt on Sicily VC captain over Mitchell? Fyfe more than likely my C for the weekend

    • Keenbutclueless says:

      Maybe! Depends on whether you think the rain will create more intercept marks for Sicily or not. Can look at it both ways – more difficult to be precise going forward, hence more opportunities for intercept marks, or the rain will make intercept marking more difficult. As for Titch, I think the rain gives more opportunities to tackle. He doesn’t mind a cuddle. His kick to handball ratio is not great anyway, so don’t think that will reduce his score.

    • DavidC says:

      Yep, it's going to be wet. You have to go Mitchell.

  36. Scoops McSupercoach says:

    Community.. I need your help urgently!!!

    Brought in Cripps last week to bring my Mid Premo tally to 7 (Kelly at M8).

    Trades this week were going to be Murray and Finlayson out, Sicily moved from FWD to DEF, bring in Spargo and Big Shannon Hurn.

    It pains me to say, but I have Luke Parker stinking it up at M7.. And even worse, as a dogs supporter I never thought Jacko would go this gangbusters. Do I scrap my previous plans and trade out Parks for Jacko instead of bringing Hurn in?

    HELPPPPPP

    • Keenbutclueless says:

      Plan A better. Give Parker until his round 14 bye. Maybe look to upgrade Parker and Kelly then.

  37. DavidSA says:

    AFL brand is dead
    I know so many Port supporters saying it's just a free kick and Amon is not even ready for AFL
    Well no shit he isn't ready even I would kill Amon if We both met for contesting the footy.

    Bet he asks everyone in Port magpies team to help spot him doing push-ups lol

  38. Derek says:

    There certainly is a lot of love for McCrea this week. People even trading out Dusty to get him in.

    In the words of the great Jock Reynolds, “let me be the devils avocardo…..”

    We could of, should of, seen this coming with the dogs playing so many of their early games at ES, 6 of their first 8 games. It catches up with them with 6 if there last 7 games away.

    McCrea’s last two massive scores against Suns and Carlton, not the strongest teams in the AFL. Prior to tat he scored 103 and 98 against good teams Fremantle and Swans.

    This week up against Lions, at ES, expect another big score. After that, the dogs next 9 games are against top 8 teams, do we expect the 103’s or the 141’s?

    And what about the Bont. He didn’t play on the weekend. Bont plays forward, McCrea does well, Bont in the guts, McCrea does OK. Does McCrea’s score rely on the Bont too much?

    I think it has been a perfect storm for him. Good draw, plenty of Home games, No Bont or the Bont playing as a forward.

    Will he be a top 8 midfield? Probably/maybe.
    Will he keep up his average? Against poor teams yes, against good teams I doubt it. Will he get more attention from other teams? Absolutely.

    • DavidSA says:

      exactly!
      And the fact of bringing in someone over 625k will eat into your next upgrade budget.
      I too would love to bring him in I have the cash but then I can't paint the fence next week.
      This week painting the fence for Yeo next week painting the fence for Crouch or Danger.

      Have 257k left after Yeo

      If I got Macrae would have only 80k left

    • Sc_Wow says:

      Chuck 2 games in against the Roos to come too

    • JohnDJ59 says:

      Will people please stop spelling Macrae the wrong way, I'm not getting into you Derek, just that so many posts, even in the SC chat are getting it wrong.Apart from that I agree with you Derek, I won't be getting him in, I knew the players I wanted in my mids at the start and I'm not going away from that.My top six were set, the other two were up for grabs. Danger, Titch, Fyfe, Dusty, Oliver, Crouch,/ Coniglio, Bont, Pendles. I currently have Titch, Fyfe, Dusty, Oliver, Coniglio, Pendles. I did start with Crouch as well but had to trade him out when he got injured, I will be getting him back in this week or next.

    • Valens_FC says:

      Fully agree on Macrae Derek, but alas, I think there's a similar argument about Yeo versus good and not so good teams. A glance at the Eagles upcoming draw suggests similar caution should be exercised.

      • Derek says:

        Yeah. I always had Yeo as top 6 defender, as long as he was fit and over his preseason problems.

        I still have 10 ahead of Macrae

      • Defying_Madness says:

        Yeo isn't priced over 600k as well though. He is also basically a lock to be top 6 due to the limited options down back. Two completely different scenarios so I don't think you can compare them.

        • Valens_FC says:

          Think the context was more that Derek was saying (at least in his first post) that while Macrae may be a top 8 mid and thus transferring him in is not a bad thing, paying the current price doesn't make sense because it will likely come down.

          Whilst Yeo is clearly not priced over 600k, his 100+ games have been against Gold Coast, Carlton, Dogs, Port and Sydney (1 good team, the rest average/bad). The 27 against Geelong was actually lucky because he was on negative at 3Q time. Next 5 are GWS, Richmond, Hawthorn, Saints, Sydney….3 out of 5 away games. Same as Macrae, some of his better scoring may be behind him not in front of him. I'm not saying not to get him, just that sometime in that sequence might represent better value given that 4 of those next 5 games look pretty tough.

    • INPieman says:

      It's the classic case of chasing lasts weeks points. Last week was the week to get him. More than likely his best score for the season. Will he keep up 130…not a chance. That space is reserved for uber guns

    • Liam says:

      Not saying you’re wrong but similar things would of been said for Oliver and docherty when they broke out to 110 plus guns from under 500k.

      Just food for thought

      • Valens_FC says:

        Yeo already has a 27 on the board that wasn't injury impacted…. don't remember those boys doing that! And history says he has those games multiple times a season.

        • Defying_Madness says:

          He was playing a different role on Danger, that isn't his normal scoring

        • Liam says:

          I was talking about Derek’s post regarding Macrae not about yeo.

    • Phil says:

      It's a good point you make but I do think you have underestimated him just a little. If he does score 103's against the top teams and more against the lower, he averages 115 at least. Is the enough to be top10? Easily.. Is he worth 625k, more likely than likely,

      As long as I've played SC the uber premiums all have something in common. There always midfielders (bar the odd ruckman) and are always inside midfielders with an outside game as well. Chris Judd, Gary Ablett, Paddy Dangerfield etc are/were all top inside midfielders that always seem to find space on the outside too.

      I've always looked at Macrae as an outside midfielder, a very good one, but I still wouldn't pick him. This year though his inside game has massively improved. Look at his contested possession rate and tackle count if you want proof. He is very tall and I believe harder to tag than most (Banfield did tag him earlier)
      He is the real deal I believe

    • The Ranger says:

      I certainly wouldn't be bringing him in at 625K but then I wouldn't bring anyone in at 625K as the aim is to pick up the premos when they're on a downward curve.As you've said previously Derek 520-550K is a nice price to pay.
      Macrae averaged 117 over the last seven rounds of 2017 so that suggests that his current streak is not a fluke but he's also always dropped the odd crap score along the way..
      I'm with Phil, I think he can be top ten from here on.

      • Lazza says:

        Sell on the way down, buy on the way up.. not buy on a downward curve… you buy when they appear to be trending back to their glory days .. not before

        • The Ranger says:

          I stand corrected Lazza, I was imprecise with my description of exactly where on the curve you might choose to make your purchase.

    • Russty_ says:

      That's insane, anyone trading out Dusty for Macrae, he's never averaged more than 106.9, can see him dropping back down into the mid to low 500's when he comes back down to earth..that's about the time when Dusty will start catching on fire and knocking out the big scores.

    • Danners says:

      Can't agree more Derek, would rather save the $100k and get a M.Crouch. This does remind of what happened to Sloane last year, average 130+ for the first 6 rounds and fell off after that.

  39. BadgerHoney7 says:

    Titch into Fyfe/Gawn seems pretty normal this week.

  40. Mystic_Mac says:

    Buddy out. No certainty for next week either.

  41. SC_Sixty6 says:

    Oliver into Fyfe. Fyfe may not have a good scoring history against saints but he's in career best form atm. Leading brownlow I suspect.

    After watching Fyfe play in the international series against Ireland I put money on him for the brownlow. Looked so good, as does he in the first 7 rounds.

    Was paying $15 at the time.

    • AuroraBorealis?! says:

      Who are you planning to loop if Oliver goes big? I'd love to put the vc on him as well but the only two (consistent) non-playing players i have are Olango and L.Murphy. Olango plays before Melbourne and Murphy plays 35 minutes after, which isn't enough time to give a good indicator of Olivers final score. Do you have LDU on the bench or something?

      • SC_Sixty6 says:

        Made a slip up of a trade the other week which forced my hand on an M11 loop option. Which is Giro of Fremantle. They have most Sunday matches and I intended to have a good M9 which can allow options to loop for a better score anyway.

        I wanted Cripps VC but the wet weather makes it interesting. Would rather Oliver in crisp conditions!

  42. BadgerHoney7 says:

    Brayden Ainsworth, Ah Chee and Ed Phillips all making debuts this week. Ed Phillips specifically averaging over 30 disposals.

    • Keenbutclueless says:

      That’s an awesome early call. Just read on AFL site that Phillips will debut. Will keep my eyes out for your other two predictions.

    • Defying_Madness says:

      Hopefully Phillips gets a few games since the saints are shit anyway

  43. Jonzzzy says:

    Alright lads, sitting pretty at 652 overall with 22 trades to spare.

    Laird, Simpson, McGovern, Doedee, Finlayson, T.Cole (L. Murphy, Naughton)

    Fyfe, Macrae, Cripps, Titch, Martin, Coniglio, Kelly, Angus Brayshaw (A Brayshaw, Crowden, Barry)

    Nank, Gawn (Olango)

    Heeney, Mclean, Lambert, Petracca, Fisher, Henry (Fritsch, Guelfi)

    Any suggestions?

    I was considering moving finlay or tracca onto Sicily.

    If finlayson, need to generate some cash with a downgrade.

    • Ja191 says:

      Tracca to Sicily is a good trade. I see tinlayson tonning up if he plays his usual role which I think he will with Cameron back. He was on track for an 80 last week at ht with woeful de until they put him forward

      • Jonzzzy says:

        Love the thinking mate, i had the same feeling about finlay too – hopefully it pays off!

  44. TommyC99 says:

    Which 2 to trade out out of
    Dow
    Findlayson
    Billings
    Petracca

    Plan is to bring in Crouch and Spargo. Got 28k left (it is possible to trade out top 2 but would only have 2k)

    • seen_burns says:

      If it's only out of them, then Finlayson and Petrappa in my opinion, Viney coming back in a few weeks will only decrease his scoring, and still hoping Billings can turn his form around.

  45. Tibor says:

    Simply can't work the Nic Nat decision out. Actually thought Christian was doing a decent job. In particular the Burton decision indicated that some practical common sense was coming back. Seemed to accept that it's a contact game and sometimes players cop a heavy knock. All very well to say that Nic Nat should have rolled him but he had a bit of ground to cover to actually make the tackle in the first place and given the speed of the game it's not hard to see how he failed to roll him. Christian had an out just like he chose to take with Burton. Wonder if someone tugged on his coat tails after the earlier call and Nic Nat paid the price

    • Russty_ says:

      Looked pretty accidental to me, a big guy tackling a smaller weaker guy, is it Nicnat's fault he's a big strong guy…and Amon is a smaller, weaker guy?…no I don't think so.
      He didn't intentionally dangerously tackle, or try to hurt Amon, bit of a joke of a call, can see a lot of missed tackles in the future for fear of getting penalized for it!…it's a bloody joke.

  46. ROB14 says:

    Thinking of bringing in Gibbs…. Crouch is back and hopefully Sloane this weekend, Gibbs should be able to run free again? Thoughts

    • Russty_ says:

      I guess, if you think he's a top 8 mid this season and you want to finish with him.

    • seen_burns says:

      Maybe hold off one more week, hasn't been scoring the greatest and has a breakeven of 114.

  47. gator59 says:

    Which one to trade Murray or Finlayson

    • Russty_ says:

      Hi Gats, I went Murray first last week for Howe, reckon Finlayson was worth sticking with a bit longer, I'm hoping he can get back to his 90-100 scores again.

      • gator59 says:

        Hi Russty,, That's the way i'm thinking too.. A BE of 86 is a bit big which I think he may get near.. Plus he's DPP comes in handy too

        • Russty_ says:

          Yeah mate don't think he'll lose much cash by keeping him, and yes dpp is very valuable, especially for me as I have still have O'connor making stuff all cash on my bench lol.

  48. Joe T says:

    Who's the bigger priority this week, Matt Crouch or McLean?

    • Neverweaken says:

      I would say McLean. At least thats who Im getting first. Crouch next week

    • Russty_ says:

      Crouch might not go up much this week, but Mclean could go up 30k.

    • Joe T says:

      Cheers guys, that was my thinking too. I'll back McLean

  49. Redpill5 says:

    Does anyone know if Essendon is likely to tag paddy cripps? Thinking of going the vc on him instead of titch but only if there is no tag…

    • Sc_Wow says:

      They have no taggers, Heppell tried with tich

      • Russty_ says:

        Not very successfully either, think that dead Squirel hanging off his chin ruined his aerodynamics 🙂

    • Redpill5 says:

      Cheers lads. Now that Barry has been dropped, this could actually work. 50% chance of rain sat vs 95% Friday. I’m going crippa!

      • Rocksta says:

        Titch will carve it up in the wet conditions tmr night. He’s the in and under player so it won’t affect him.

        • Redpill5 says:

          You might be right rocksta, but it is supposed to be very wet, so I’d expect all scores to be down. Titch may top score but I think cripps can go bigger, plus he’s due.

        • Redpill5 says:

          How’s titch looking now rocksta? :-/

  50. Tom says:

    Bring in Crouch or Toby Maclean this week? McLean has a lower BE but Crouch has a very tasty record against the Power

    • DavidC says:

      Look at your bye structure. McLean has a good bye and might be a good get but I don't know your team.

    • Russty_ says:

      I reckon Mclean Tom, could raise 30k in price and Crouch might not go up much this week.

  51. Russty_ says:

    Sloane's out for another 2 weeks, if that influences anyone's decision to bring Crouch in.

  52. Sc_Wow says:

    English out.
    Carnage

  53. Shake_n_Bake_ says:

    English out might hurt a few who started him as bench cover & have nic nat.

    • Northernsoul74 says:

      Yep, I knew as soon as I saw Bevos post match comments.

    • hedski says:

      Yeah that's me Shake, might go for the cash grab and trade in The big O.

    • TOPHAWK1 says:

      What a week for English to be rested. Talk about rubbing salt into the wounds of Nic Nat owners!

      • Shake_n_Bake_ says:

        Who would believe the timing. For what it’s worth l feel for nic nat owners, fascical.

    • Phil says:

      People with English are still in a very good position I think. Just trade him for McInnerly or the Gold Coast ruckman. I'd be looking at him as a cashcow now, a very good one too. It's the people with Olango @R3 that have a tough decision to make.

  54. Russty_ says:

    Amon "Omitted"…I thought he was injured by Naitanui?..lol

  55. hedski says:

    Looks like Jack Shittings survives another week….prick.

  56. Jacob says:

    Barry dropped again. Was going to trade garlett this week, should i trade barry instead? Thoughts ??

    • Jacob says:

      Feel like both still have cash to make, have to get rid of 1 this week though!

    • Jacob says:

      No takers? Advice would be appreciated!

      • Ja191 says:

        i'd be trading out barry over garlett. Barry doesn't look like scoring over 40 and will be lucky to get back in the squad bar injuries. Garlett is getting a regular game and all it takes is a 70-90 and his be will drop which he's shown he can do

      • Marty says:

        Better to keep the one who is playing surely

  57. TOPHAWK1 says:

    No Guelfi??? WTF!! Not happy.

    • Jacob says:

      Same mate! Love the people that said he was just rested, knew he was dropped!

      • Russty_ says:

        Think the Coach rates Biter McConnor over Goofy.

      • TOPHAWK1 says:

        We have been lied too! Maybe he has a niggle. His form was far too good to be dropped indefinitely. Surely. Worried bout 3 rooks now not making any cash. (Murphy, Mirra, and Guelfi)

      • Defying_Madness says:

        Coach literally said he was rested so have a go at the coach not us

    • Beezneez says:

      On extended bench so, hopefully, he can get a run sometime. Useful for loophole i guess.

  58. TommyC99 says:

    Looks like im copping a 0 from nic nat with english out. I should just persist with bringing in McLean and Spargo in right?

    • Phil says:

      Hi Tommy, I'll give you another option to consider.
      Spargo is a must so do that.

      How bad do you want McLean? Everyones talking about Macrae having a bad run of games coming up, surely that effects Mclean too right?

      There are very little downgrade bubble options next week so I'd consider a double downgrade this week with English to McInnerly. Sets you up for a double upgrade next week and gets you 50-60 points from McInnerly straight away.
      Wait 3-4 weeks for McLeans 140 to disappear then pick him.

      • TommyC99 says:

        G’day Phil!
        The only thing that concerns me is his JS. Surely it’s quite shaky.
        In terms of McLean. A very nice added bonus for getting him is for his nice bye, and if I do t get him while his BE is low, I can’t see myself getting him by the time his bye comes around

  59. Tom says:

    What options do we have when downgrading defenders in the next couple of weeks? There doesn't seem to be too many def rookies coming through

    • Northernsoul74 says:

      Isaac Cumming maybe.

    • Redpill5 says:

      Cummings from gws is debuting this week. Had good form in the neafl and was a top rookie pick before the season started but copped an injury. If he stays in the team will coincide with Murray, Finalyson and doedee peaking.

    • redherringfc says:

      Keeffe, but as the gws boys start coming back from injury I don’t think he’ll be around for too long.

  60. Ja191 says:

    oooh lachlan fogarty managed opens up every vc loophole

  61. Ja191 says:

    yeah a lot will be facing the same, hold the trade

  62. TOPHAWK1 says:

    Ivan Soldo named for Tigers………………………..Nankervis still a late out possibility? Tigers playing second last too. Scary.

    • Shake_n_Bake_ says:

      He was emg last couple of weeks. Who knows he might be close. But confident he stays emg 🤞

    • hedski says:

      I hope he is Toppa, playing Neil in cash league, I have Nic/English he has Nank.

      • TOPHAWK1 says:

        Hehehehe. I have Nank and Olango. If Nank is a late out I will also enter "club donut" this week.

    • Frankston Phil says:

      I'm holding back 1 trade if he's a late out, I will trade to Grundy if he is. Wish Tigers were playing earlier.

  63. PeteB says:

    Gotta get in Sicily this week. Who to trade out of Doedee, Murray or Naughton ?

    • redherringfc says:

      Wait til final teams are named tomorrow to see if Murray makes the cut.

      I’ve culled Doedee this week, but will reverse and change to Murray if he is dropped.

      Naughton might have a fair bit of cash to make yet.

    • Defying_Madness says:

      Easily Murray out of those 3

    • seen_burns says:

      Murray- Doesn't have to much cash to generate.
      Doedee can score big, and Naughton still has cash to make.

    • PeteB says:

      Shame to get rid of any of them. All of them could easily make another $100k but Sicily is probably going to make more and is a keeper.

      • Tibor says:

        He is due……Already a bit of carnage around and his footy was great last week, Back him in its time for flog tantrum three…

  64. TOPHAWK1 says:

    Tom Mc Cartin named for Sydney. He is also a forward. I wonder if that helps Ronke's JS?

  65. Shake_n_Bake_ says:

    McGovern to be a late out?

  66. Kkk says:

    VC/C
    titch –> fyfe
    Or
    Cripps –> fyfe

    • Rocksta says:

      I have the same Dilemma.
      Barry being dropped has opened up that loophole for me.
      I’m most likely going to go Titch into Fyfe. I reckon Titch will carve it up in the wet conditions

  67. Tyruddanaut says:

    UNDER THE RADAR

    Need a POD for really cheap? This is the post for you!

    Tom Barass 290k – scored 3X over 90 in the first 4 rounds. Dropped 100k overall
    Anthony M-T 287k – decreased by 117k overall. Last year averaging 80s
    Ryan Burton 319k – decreased by 140k overall. Last year had one of the top disposa efficiencies in the club
    Touhy 379k – over first 4 rounds averaged 94 decreased 104k

    • Derek says:

      Burton rolled his ankle pretty badly first round and has struggled to recover. Reports are he is ok. Should be $100k more expensive. But won’t average over 80

    • DavidSA says:

      Touhy is a good pick if you got 4 of the current best defenders already he would be a fine D6 for rest of season

    • HumanBob says:

      I think that there is a typo in your second line. You forgot the 'S' at the start of the third word and used the wrong vowel before the 'd'

      • Russty_ says:

        Have to agree there Bob, 110011110000, a POD is generally a player with low ownership, who is good, and worth keeping.

        • Tyruddanaut says:

          A POD is pretty much just a player who you can’t justify with high ownership. Some work you have to do yourself

        • HumanBob says:

          Thanks for the headsup Russty my memory also says 'a POD is generally a player with low ownership, who is good, and worth keeping' which is what enabled me to identify the typo 00111101100001

  68. TRIGGA_HAPPY says:

    Mmmmm That'sa nicea donut.

    Wet in Melb tomorrow so dashed camerons chances of a gig.

  69. DavidSA says:

    Ok not confidant in Franklin anymore… him being out for a 3rd week maybe even a 4th week
    Franklin to Hogan adds 70k thank you
    Banfield to Spargo
    Copping my 🍩 This week from Nic and fingers crossed I still pop out a 2200 score.
    Leaves me with 500k in the bank for a double upgrade next week 1 defender 1 midfielder.

    • Russty_ says:

      Sounds good Dave, 500k to spend next week, on sweet upgrades, you know who else is a sweet upgrade?…..

    • Hawks says:

      Franklin will be back in next week.

      He is serving an unannounced AFL suspension for a 2nd strike with recreational drugs (hence it has not been published as negative effect on AFL Sydney market).

      Was given a 3 week suspension.

  70. zerowins says:

    Need help on who to bring in crouch or yeo

  71. zerowins says:

    Kelly is currently M7. Im thinkimg Yeo may score well with Shuey out for a couple

    • DavidSA says:

      I think Yeo will Be top 4 defender regardless but yup he will have more on the ball time with Shuey out.

      • zerowins says:

        Thats for sure. Im not sure if crouch will be top 10 from here on

  72. TRIGGA_HAPPY says:

    Looking at the pies bench got a sinking feeling Murray wont make the cut tomorrow and will be given a rest.

    • Derek says:

      He is turning into Yeo anyway

    • Shake_n_Bake_ says:

      Wells will play and Murray will hold his spot.

      • Beezneez says:

        Hope you're right Shake. I'm 8K short of my planned trades to bring in Crouch (planned Finlayson to Appleby replacing Finlayson onfield with Naughton).

    • TOPHAWK1 says:

      Bloody marvellous that!

      Got Murphy and Mirra on the bench already. I have a feeling you may be onto something. If he misses my trading strategy changes dramatically. Murray will be culled on the spot. Instead of snaffling McLean which hurts bad……..(But got Sicily last week to ease that pain). I may have to grab Hurley this week as I only have 2 premos down back. (Laird and Hibbo) Was planning a double def upgrade next week. Geez, this will be a season defining round. It's got that feel about it.

      • TRIGGA_HAPPY says:

        Reckon most of us are in the same boat with the same bench hawk.
        Yeah cant cop two donuts so will change my trade strategy as well.
        Crouch may have to stay on the couch.

      • Tibor says:

        Any concern about Hurley role with Joe Daniher having a spell, would he spend time forward or does he stay back but have to take more responsibility for an opponent with flog Goddard going forward. All things Essendon have a bad smell about them right now

  73. red5 says:

    Best FWD for under 467,000?

  74. Danners says:

    Good stuff Patch and Lek! Thanks for your work Post MaSloane, hopefully all goes well for you. Well, a bit of an up and down season so far for me, not the most ideal start. Not sure on what to do this week.

    My team currently:
    DEF: Laird, Hurley, Lloyd, Doedee, Finlayson, Murray (Mirra, Murphy)
    MID: Titch, Dusty, Cripps, Neale, Zerrett, Coniglio, Kelly, Higgins (Holman, Banfield, Barry)
    RUCK: Gawn, Goldstein (D.Cameron)
    FWD: Heeney, McLean, Mundy, D.Smith, Waterman, Fritsch (Henry, ZGL)
    23 trades with $280k in the bank

    Feel I should get Spargo in, but not sure whether to downgrade again into a Mutch or upgrade to a premo.
    Thoughts community?

  75. redherringfc says:

    Any thoughts on who to put on field out of Lycett and Kreuzer.

    Kreuzer hasn’t hit his straps yet and Lycett has been hot and cold, but with nic nat out I’m thinking he’ll probably post a decent score.

    My gut says Lycett will outscore him, but I’m a big believer in backing your premiums.

    • seen_burns says:

      Lycett

    • Lekdog says:

      Lycett against the GIANTS

    • TOPHAWK1 says:

      Are you serious? You own all 3?

      Not sure whether to say.

      "Well done" herring, or "why do you have so much cash over the ruck line" herring?

      Well, you are in pole position this week as many will be eating donuts.

      • redherringfc says:

        Grabbed Lycett for $270k to cover Kreuzer early on, with the idea that I’d save a trade later on. He’s done his job, making 150k so far, but Kreuzer has been a disaster for me.

        Was going Lycett to McInerny this week, but now I’ll be looking to Crossley next week. Might just end up with Olongo.

    • Franklin SHow says:

      Andrew Phillips dropped for the blues Kruze should be rucking majority surely hes due for a good score soon.

    • Phil says:

      I'd go Kreuzer there. I did exactly the same thing as you but traded Kreuzer before Round 4 for McInnerly who was emergency at the time. Lycetts been good.

  76. Saundo says:

    Seb Ross or Neale?

    • seen_burns says:

      The one you prefer, but their are other options like Oliver and Crouch

  77. seen_burns says:

    Double downgrading this week, getting Spargo but not sure on whether to get Ronke or Mutch, leaning towards Ronke

    • Borko says:

      Same situation here … leaning toward Ronke but not sure about his JS. Would have thought Mutch was ok but looks like Guelfi has disappeared so hard to trust his JS either. In the end its a bit of a guess … at least Ronke should make more $ this week!

  78. Andre says:

    Hey community 21 trades left and 323k in the bank need some help.

    Laird, Simpson, Yeo, Doedee, Finlayson, murray (C'O' shea, Naughton)

    Fyfe, holman, Cripps, mitchell , Martin, Coniglio, Kelly, Barry (Banfield, Cofield, Brodie)

    Nic nat, Gawn (Cameron)

    Heeney, Mclean, Smith, Petracca, Fritsch, crowden (Fogarty, Ahern)

    Any suggestions?

    • Russty_ says:

      Get Spargo in, and upgrade one of your midfield rookies..or ditch Cameron for Crossley so you don't cop a Nicnat Donut this week.

  79. Mr.Brightside says:

    If Nanks out, would love to go Grundy, but he & Max have the same bye , grr

  80. Neverweaken says:

    Is Darling worth a look at as a forward?

    • seen_burns says:

      Not sure is a key fwd who isn't a proven premium and his form could easily drop off, but has a good bye, cheap and could of taken Kennedy's SC role

    • Jacob says:

      Wouldnt touch him, much better options out there!

    • Hawks says:

      WCE have had a great draw, 4 of their last 5 games played at home, and the other game was against Carlton.

      That's a pretty good run for an Eagle forward, it must get tougher.

    • HumanBob says:

      I was seriously considering him neverweaken, but my only concern is that JJK gets back into some form and Darling fades into the background. Based on performance to date he's a great option

  81. Chris_Judd says:

    Holman down to Spargo and Crowden up to Mclean, thoughts?

    • cashcows says:

      3 votes for those trades.

    • HumanBob says:

      All that trade will do for you is score heaps more points. From comments I've read here all year Points chasing is bad, I don't agree with that I think it's the only way to win, chasing donuts seems ludicrous.
      So Chris, your choices are
      a). Take to majority of the communities advice and DON'T chase those points and save your trades.
      b). Follow yours and mine radical strategy of getting the highest scoring players possible i.e. chase those points and make those trades

      • Russty_ says:

        I don't reckon getting Mclean is chasing points Bob, Macrae probably is this week as he's overpriced now and probably won't maintain this average he's on now…and then will drop down in price again.
        I think when they say chasing points, they mean paying top dollar for a player who's on fire at the moment….1011000101

      • SC_Sixty6 says:

        You're a genius Bob! Why haven't you won this consecutively year by year?

        • HumanBob says:

          I like to give you kids a chance so I start players Dusty, Danger, Buddy etc

  82. I NEED HELP says:

    Option 1 – Trade Billings to Ronke & Holman to Crouch
    Option 2 – Finlayson to Appleby & Holman to Crouch.

    I have been patient with Billings but really struggling to keep patient. Thoughts can anyone convince me to go option 2?

    Backline is – Laird, Hurley, Sicily, Dodee, S Murray, Finlayson (Naughton & Murphy)

  83. Crisbee says:

    Cripps into Macrae. LOCK. IT. IN.

  84. 123 says:

    Hey community 28 trades left and 68k in the bank need some help.

    Laird, Lloyd, Yeo, Doedee, Finlayson, murray (Murphy, Naughton)

    Fyfe, holman, Cripps, mitchell , Martin, Coniglio, Kelly, Barry (Banfield, Cofield, Ahern)

    Nic nat, Gawn (Cameron)

    english,fritsch, henry, Higgins, zac giles lagdon, stephenson (Fogarty, Guelfi)

    • Whatyasmokin says:

      Get some forwards in is coffield mi-def? If so trade finlayson, move coffield back and get spargo, then trade fogarty who has peaked and now omitted to McClean. Sorted.

    • JohnDJ59 says:

      First off I'm still trying to work out how you only have 68k when you have a all rookie fwd line. My two trades would be English to Spargo and Stephenson to McLean. I hope that helps.

  85. Defying_Madness says:

    Will Curnow tag Merret? If the answer is no I think he is a very good VC option

    • TOPHAWK1 says:

      Just assume YES.

      I have Zerrett too.

      He is not my VC this week just because of that hard tag.

    • HumanBob says:

      I doubt it very much. Maybe when Murph comes back Curnow will go back to tagging but not this week. Kerridge might shut him down though

  86. Hawks says:

    I have no loop hole to use.

    Which 1 of the following should I have on field this week-
    Finlayson
    Spargo
    Holman
    Coffield

    Appreciate your help

  87. GreendaleFC says:

    What does the community think about Ronke? Is his job security reasonable?

    • Hawks says:

      Hanging in the team. Named on the bench, with a few to come back into Sydney's best team, Franklin, Hannebury, Nic Newman not far off, and there must be others.

  88. Noah says:

    Fritsch or ZGL on field

  89. simon says:

    so my defence is currently
    laird, Hurley, yeo, sicily, savage, doedee..

    would tuohy be a good d6 to bring in next week. cheap as chips and decent average if you take out his 25

    • Defying_Madness says:

      Probably gonna need simpson in there

    • Hawks says:

      Yes, Tuohy or Simpson (will cost more, but safer option & round 12 bye)

    • HumanBob says:

      Don't settle for the best that you can afford this week. Wait a week and get the best that you don't already have.

  90. Hawks says:

    Anyone considering JPK as VC tomorrow night.

    Has hit his stride in the past 2 weeks, loves playing Hawthorn, loves playing in the wet, will be Sydney's leading contested ball winner with no Hannebury, and Parker not in form.

    Thoughts?

    • Russty_ says:

      Could give you a good leg up Hawks if he gets 150 again.

    • What The says:

      Nah, I'm not even going to buy him despite him being so cheap. Only room for 8 onfield mids and JPK wont be in the top 20

    • Tibor says:

      Why not. you're spot on especially on the wet track. Personally I didn't really consider him this year because there are so many options. He's still a gun player and if you have him I reckon he's a good vc choice this week good luck…

  91. Tibor says:

    Last year Dusty started well and Tigers supporters were starting to talk about him being better than Danger. He went quiet for awhile before obviously finishing his year so strongly. Can't really remember when the flat spot started but think it lasted about a month then . Would have been about this time of season so are they just doing his training loads the same and looking for a similar result overall

    • Russty_ says:

      I think it's been happening the same for quite a few years now Tibor, he always has a slump, drops in price and then comes back to finish strong.

      • Steeeve says:

        Why I never start him. Always finish with him though. Hoping for another low score so I can ride tim Kelly at m8 a bit longer but not hopeful. Can't keep a beast like Dusty down for long.

  92. Steeeve says:

    Cannot believe the Crows have brought Hokey Pokey back in after two spud performances and left Murphy in the emergency room.
    Very nervous Murphy and Mirra will spend the rest of the season making no cash in my m7 and m8 spots.

    • Beezneez says:

      Poholke's first game was okay. Murphy named as emergency after one SANFL game. Wouldn't expect either of them to be there if Milera and Riley Knight were available. I've had Murphy on the bench since his injury and he's been useful for looping with Naughton Finlayson and Murray. Having both him and Mirra is a worry however. I would be looking to ugrade to a rookie defender with good JS ( if there is such a thing). You've probably missed the boat on Cole and Duman). Appleby/Keeffe?

  93. TommyC99 says:

    Which option pls guys? Got 28k in bank
    1. Findlayson/billings/tracca – Spargo and McLean (would cop a 0)

    2. Findlayson/billings/tracca – Spargo and English – McInerney, would leave me with 450-500k to double upgrade next week.

  94. Neverweaken says:

    I can trade Nank to Grundy if he is a late out. But I also have the cash to trade Olango for Grundy and so have a Gawn, Grundy, Nank ruckline. Yes there is a lot of money on the pine. But it avoids some donuts that night occur as rucks get rested. Leaves me with no cash at all