AROUND THE GROUNDS WITH BARRON VON CROW

Round 6 is in the books and it looks like we’ve got a fresh new crop of rookies to take a look at from last week, with the likes of Flynn Appleby, Kobe Mutch, James Worpel, Charlie Spargo, Jack Petruccelle, Nic Shipley, Ben Ronke and Oscar McInerney all playing their very first games of football. They won’t all be guaranteed to keep their spots going forward, but it’s nice to know we have some options to look at over the coming weeks. So let’s go see what happened around Australia in both the AFL and the respective state leagues for last week.

Around the Grounds

Victoria

Carlton

Just like the Doggies, the Blues had their own issues kicking for goal, booting 8.11 and going down 80-59 on Friday night. Lochie O’Brien finished with just 9 disposals, 1 mark and 1 goal for 39 SCPoints, which now puts his season average at 48.7 SCPoints with a BE of 9 this week. Harry McKay had 10 disposals, 5 marks and a goal for 63 SCPoints, he’s now on the bubble this week with two scores of 63 and a BE of -3. Paddy Dow had 14 disposals, 4 marks and 4 inside 50’s for 59 SCPoints, his 3 round average of 56.7 is slightly above his season average of 50 SCPoints and he has a BE of 14 this week.

In the VFL, the Northern Blues had a 44 point loss to Port Melbourne, going down 112-68. Angus Schumacher had 10 disposals, 2 marks and 7 rebound 50’s and Pat Kerr had 9 disposals, 3 marks and kicked 3.1.

Collingwood

Collingwood were in the game until the last quarter, which saw an 8 goal to 2 result against them, losing to Richmond 113-70. Flynn Appleby made his AFL debut and had 9 disposals, 1 mark and 3 tackles with 3 rebound 50’s for 58 SCPoints while Jaidyn Stephenson had 13 disposals, 2 marks, 6 tackles and a goal for 47 SCPoints.

His 3 round average is still 83.3 SCPoints thanks to his big score against the Crows, which puts his BE at 56 this week, but that looks to jump up to the 70-80 range next week with that score of 115 rolling out of his average. Callum Brown had 18 disposals, 4 marks and 6 tackles for 75 SCPoints and Sam Murray had 19 disposals, 8 marks, 2 tackles, 5 rebound 50’s and 5 clangers for 62 SCPoints. His BE is 54 this week with a 5 round average of 77 SCPoints.

Collingwood’s VFL side had a bye this week.

Essendon

Essendon had a slight lead at halftime, but kicked 5 goals to 12 in the 2nd half to go down to Melbourne 108-72. Jayden Laverde made his 2018 AFL debut with 21 disposals, 10 marks, 2 tackles and 1.1 for 75 SCPoints. Solid stat line there.

Kobe Mutch played his very first AFL game and had 20 disposals, 6 marks and 1 tackle for 66 SCPoints, while Matt Guelfi continued his solid scoring with 19 disposals, 4 marks and 3 tackles for 63 SCPoints. Finally, Ben McNiece made his 2018 AFL debut with 16 disposals, 3 marks and 3 tackles for 67 SCPoints. Probably won’t be considered by many with a $209,700 starting price.

Essendon’s VFL side had a bye this week.

Geelong

Reversed fortunes this week for Geelong, going down at home to the Swans 86-69. Tim Kelly was again superb with 19 disposals, 2 marks, 5 tackles, 4 clearances and a goal for 106 SCPoints. His season average is currently 98.8 SCPoints while having a BE of 39. If he can keep this pace up he’ll cross the $400K mark in a few weeks. Jordan Cunico finished with 21 disposals, 6 marks and 4 tackles for 71 SCPoints while Jack Henry had 13 disposals, 4 marks and 6 rebound 50’s for 54 SCPoints.

Esava Ratugolea again played a solid game with 11 disposals, 3 marks, 2 tackles and 12 hitouts for 70 SCPoints, while Lachlan Fogarty had a quieter game with 11 disposals and 4 tackles for 50 SCPoints. Despite that poor score his BE is still 36 for this week. Zach Guthrie didn’t do much at all with just 4 disposals and 3 marks for 15 SCPoints.

Geelong’s VFL side had an 84-62 win over the Casey Demons. Charlie Constable led the way for the Cats with 28 disposals, 4 marks and 6 tackles and Gryan Miers had 15 disposals, 5 marks and kicked 1.2, while Mark O’Connor had 11 disposals, 3 marks and 3 tackles.

Hawthorn

Hawthorn managed to turn a 12 point lead at ¾ time into a 35 point win against St Kilda, taking the game 89-54. James Worpel made his AFL debut and had 13 disposals, 1 mark and 3 tackles for 64 SCPoints, while David Mirra had 15 disposals, 3 marks, 2 clearances and 3 rebound 50’s for 71 SCPoints. He’s had his first price rise of the year, gaining $63,300, but is still available at a decent price of $165,700, though he’s projected to go up about another $40,000 in price with a BE of -27. James Cousins finished with 14 disposals, 3 marks and 2 tackles for 43 SCPoints.

The Box Hill Hawks had a bye in the VFL this week.

Melbourne

Melbourne got the job done in the 2nd half, kicking 12 goals to run away with a 108-72 win over Essendon on Sunday. Charlie Spargo made his AFL debut and looked good with 18 disposals (14 handballs), 4 marks, 3 tackles and 2 goals for 81 SCPoints. Bayley Fritsch returned to the side and hopefully cemented his spot up forward with 14 disposals, 8 marks and 3 goals for 90 SCPoints. That has pushed his BE back to -7 for this week.

A spirited fight back from Casey in the last quarter, but they were too far behind to make up the 6 goals, going down to Geelong 84-62. Timothy Smith led the way for the Demons with 25 disposals, 2 marks and 12 tackles, Joel Smith had 17 disposals, 1 mark and 3 tackles and Dion Johnstone had 13 disposals, 2 marks and 5 inside 50’s.

North Melbourne

North couldn’t get two quality wins in a row, going down to Port Adelaide 102-69. Cameron Zurhaar had 10 disposals, 1 mark and 3 tackles for 44 SCPoints, while Luke Davies-Uniacke had just 9 disposals, 1 tackle and 4 clangers for 32 SCPoints. His season average is now 38.8 SCPoints, with a BE of 45, after 5 games he is now only $2,400 more expensive than his original starting price.

North Melbourne’s VFL side had their second win of the season with a 52 point win against Coburg. Paul Ahern had 22 disposals (18 handballs) and 2 tackles, Josh Williams had 19 disposals and 5 marks and Nick Larkey had 9 disposals, 7 marks and 3 goals.

Richmond

It was a tight game at ¾ time, but Richmond kicking half of their total in the last quarter pushed them all the way out to a 113-70 win against Collingwood. Jack Higgins was again active with 13 disposals, 1 mark, 2 tackles and 2 goals for 71 SCPoints. He’s had his first price rise of $66,100K and has another similar rise projected with a BE of -45.

Richmond’s VFL side defeated Werribee 118 to 80 in Round 4 of the VFL season. Tyson Stengle kicked 3.1 with 14 disposals, 4 marks, 3 tackles and 5 inside 50’s, Mabior Chol had 10 disposals, 5 marks, 4 tackles and kicked 3.1 and Callum Coleman-Jones had 10 disposals, 3 marks, 3 tackles and kicked 2.1.

St Kilda

Another case of inaccurate goal kicking hurting a side, with the Saints booting 7.12 to go down to Hawthorn 89-54 on Saturday night. Ben Long finished with 12 disposals, 3 marks and a goal for 45 SCPoints, while Nicholas Coffield had 7 disposals and 2 marks with 3 clearances for 24 SCPoints. That has put his BE up at 54 with a 3 round average currently at 55 SCPoints.

St Kilda’s VFL side the Sandringham Zebra’s had a bye in the VFL this week.

Western Bulldogs

The Bulldogs were never really challenged on Friday night against Carlton, and apart from some inaccurate kicking in front of goal, ran away with a fairly easy 21 point win. Billy Gowers had a good scoring game, finishing with 9 disposals, 7 marks and 2 goals for 78 SCPoints, while Tim English didn’t fair as well in the ruck, recording 10 disposals, 2 tackles and 15 hitouts for 44 SCPoints. His BE has moved up to 47 for the week.  

Aaron Naughton continued his strong run with 13 disposals, 4 marks and 4 tackles for 78 SCPoints. His 3 round average now sits at 72.7 SCPoints and has a BE of 27 still this week. Patrick Lipinkski had 3 goals with 15 disposals and 3 marks for 69 SCPoints. He’s on the bubble this week, but has a slightly inflated starting price of $204,000 thanks to playing a game in 2017. Finally, Ed Richards had 17 disposals, 4 marks and 5 rebound 50’s for 58 SCPoints. His average for the year now sits at 59.8 SCPoints with a BE of 41 this week.

Footscray also had a bye in the VFL this week.

South Australia

Adelaide

Adelaide were never really threatened on Saturday night, putting up a solid 110-62 win against Gold Coast. Tom Doedee did his usual thing with 18 disposals, 8 marks and 4 tackles for 83 SCPoints while Jordan Gallucci was active in his 2nd game of the year with 20 disposals, 5 marks and 2 goals with 6 clangers for 76 SCPoints. Myles Poholke didn’t do so great with 8 disposals, 3 marks and 4 inside 50’s with 3 clangers for 18 SCPoints. His time will likely be up with Sloane a good chance to return this week.

In the SANFL the Adelaide reserves went down to Norwood 107-86. Patrick Wilson led the way with 25 disposals, 6 marks and 6 tackles, while Jackson Edwards had 18 disposals, 2 marks and 2 tackles while Ben Jarman had 18 disposals, 4 marks, 3 tackles and a goal. Darcy Fogarty had 11 disposals, 5 marks and 2 inside 50’s.

Port Adelaide

A solid win for the Power at Etihad on Saturday, defeating North Melbourne 102-69. Riley Bonner had 18 disposals, 4 marks, 4 rebound 50’s, as well as 4 clangers for 53 SCPoints. His 3 round average now sits at 59 SCPoints, while his season average is 73.3 with a BE of 70 this week. Getting near time to move him on it looks. Dom Barry returned to the side and had just 11 disposals, 2 marks and 2 behinds for 35 SCPoints and Aidyn Johnson played his first game of 2018 and had 9 disposals, 5 tackles and a goal for 72 SCPoints. His starting price is currently at $199,700.

The Port Adelaide Magpies had a bye in the SANFL this week.

Western Australia

Fremantle

The WA derby was a tight one, with Fremantle narrowly losing to West Coast 89-81. Andrew Brayshaw had 14 disposals, 2 marks, 4 tackles and a goal for 61 SCPoints. His 5 round average is now 51.8 SCPoints, but still has a BE of just 18, though he currently projects to have limited cash to gain after Round 8 if he continues the current scoring trend. Bailey Banfield had 14 disposals, 2 marks and 4 tackles for 52 SCPoints while Taylin Duman faired similar with 12 disposals, 2 marks and 3 tackles for 53 SCPoints. Adam Cerra had 11 disposals, 4 marks and 4 inside 50’s for 44 SCPoints and Mitch Crowden had 11 disposals, 2 marks and 3 tackles for 48 SCPoints.

In the WAFL, the Peel Thunder lost to East Perth 134-68. Tom North had 21 disposals, 1 mark and 4 tackles and Luke Strnadica had 15 disposals, 8 marks, 9 hitouts and kicked 2.2.

West Coast

West Coast got a close win to keep them in the top 2, defeating Fremantle 89-81 in the Western Australian Derby. Jake Waterman hit the scoreboard for a pair of goals, along with 14 disposals, 5 marks and 4 tackles for 85 SCPoints, while Tom Cole had 12 disposals, 5 marks and 10 tackles for 67 SCPoints, which was likely brought down by the 5 frees paid against him. He’s on the bubble this week and with an average of 82.5 SCPoints currently has a BE of -64. Willie Rioli had 9 disposals, 3 marks, 2 tackles and 2 behinds for 46 SCPoints and Jack Petruccelle made his AFL debut but had just 4 disposals, 1 mark and 1 tackle for 12 SCPoints.

In the WAFL, East Perth had a big 134-68 win against the Peel Thunder. Brayden Ainsworth had 26 disposals, 4 marks and 1 tackle with 2 behinds and Matthew Allen kicked 5 goals with 19 disposals and 8 marks. Jarrod Brander kicked 2.2 with 18 disposals and 7 marks and Tarir Bayok also kicked 2 goals with 18 disposals, 4 marks and 3 tackles.

New South Wales

GWS

Do you like watching teams miss shots on goal? Well if you do, Brisbane and GWS had you covered last week, with a stunning 10.17 to 5.13 display put on for 10,046 at Spotless Stadium on Saturday. Zac Langdon returned from injury and somehow had a 60 SCPoints game from 6 disposals, 1 goal and 3 tackles, while Nicholas Shipley made his AFL debut and had 8 disposals, 2 marks, 3 tackles and 41 SCPoints. Daniel Lloyd had a big game with 20 disposals, 7 marks, 3 tackles and 1.1 for 94 SCPoints and Jeremy Finlayson had just 15 disposals, 6 marks, 4 rebound 50’s and 4 clangers for 65 SCPoints. His BE is 57 this week, which he shouldn’t have any issues hitting, with his score of 65 last week being his lowest of the year.

Sydney

A quality away win for Sydney, minus Buddy they went on to defeat Geelong 86-69. Ben Ronke made his AFL debut and had 15 disposals, 2 goals and 7 tackles for 92 SCPoints. Wouldn’t expect 2 goals every week, but 7 tackles is a nice score booster if he can manage it. Oliver Florent had 14 disposals, 6 marks and 2 goals for 70 SCPoints while Will Hayward had 11 disposals, 3 goals and 4 marks for 93 SCPoints. Daniel Robinson played his first game of 2018 and had 8 disposals, 1 mark and 2 tackles for 27 SCPoints. At a starting price of $237,500 he’s not likely worth considering.

In the NEAFL, Sydney had a narrow loss to the Gold Coast, going down 58-49. Darcy Cameron led the way with 24 disposals, 11 marks, 9 tackles, 32 hitouts and kicked 2.1. Jake Brown had 23 disposals, 6 marks and 3 inside 50’s with 1.2 and Tom McCartin kicked 1.3 with 15 disposals, 8 marks and 8 inside 50’s.

Queensland

Brisbane

Brisbane put in a consistent effort last week, consistently kicking behinds and occasionally nailing a goal, going down to GWS 77-43. Zac Bailey had 16 disposals, 2 tackles and 2 behinds, 57 SCPoints, while Cameron Rayner had 14 disposals, 3 marks and 3 tackles for 52 SCPoints. Oscar McInerney made his AFL debut in a move which will surely annoy Stef Martin owners, with McInerney having 7 disposals, 1 mark, 3 tackles and 9 hitouts for 54 SCPoints.

Gold Coast

The Suns tried all night, but were never really close to threatening the Crows, going down 110-62 on Saturday night. Nic Holman didn’t produce a whole lot with 8 disposals and 3 tackles for 33 SCPoints. His 3 round average is now 51 SCPoints and has a BE of 35. You might get a few more weeks out of him if he can produce another score in the 60-70 range, but he’s nearing his max ceiling it looks like. 2 scores in the 30’s over the past 3 weeks makes him a risky play still.

In Round 4 of the NEAFL season, the Suns had a 9 point victory over Sydney, winning 58-49. Will Brodie had 25 disposals, 6 marks, 5 tackles and 4 inside 50’s while Jacob Dawson had 30 disposals, 7 marks, 4 tackles and 5 rebound 50’s and Brayden Crossley had 16 disposals, 4 marks, 6 tackles and 22 hitouts.

Top 5 under 200K

Since we’re at that stage where we’re getting close to looking at downgrade targets, we’re going to look at the best at what’s available currently on each line priced under $200K.

DEF

  1. Tom Cole – 2 games played – 82.5 AVG – $170,400
  2. Taylin Dunman – 2 games played – 69.0 AVG – $123,900
  3. David Mirra – 3 games played – 67.3 AVG – $165,700
  4. Flynn Appleby – 1 game played – 58 AVG – $121,900
  5. Lochie O’Brien – 3 games played – 48.7 AVG – $184,600

MID

  1. Charlie Spargo – 1 game played – 81 AVG – $117,300
  2. Jack Higgins – 3 games played – 75 AVG – $196,900
  3. Kobe Mutch – 1 game played – 66 AVG – $123,900
  4. James Worpel – 1 game played – 64 AVG – $117,300
  5. Lochie O’Brien – 3 games played – 48.7 AVG – $184,600

RUC

  1. Oscar McInerney – 1 game played – 54 AVG – $123,900

FWD

  1. Ben Ronke – 1 game played – 92 AVG – $123,900
  2. Charlie Spargo – 1 game played – 81 AVG – $117,300
  3. Jack Higgins – 3 games played – 75 AVG – $196,900
  4. Aidyn Johnson – 1 game played – 72 AVG – $199,700
  5. Matt Guelfi – 3 games played – 68 AVG – $177,500

And that’s it from me this week. As usual, you can either leave a comment in the section below, or hit me up on the Twitter @BarronVonCrow. Seeya next week!

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  1. BrownlowBoy says:

    Charlie Constable is gonna be a good player.

  2. Sc_Wow says:

    Podcast is still on track for the bye rounds.
    Again it’s to add something more to the community not to try take over.
    Managed a 86th overall rank atm so hopefully some people can find my insight helpful

    • Lekdog says:

      We can’t wait Wow, that’s a bloody decent rank mate. Been nailing your captains?

      • Sc_Wow says:

        Cheers Lek <img draggable="false" class="emoji" alt="👍🏼" src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/2.4/svg/1f44d-1f3fc.svg"&gt;
        Unfortunately not, had danger 3 weeks in a row so 2 100’s and 135. Had Fyfe last week.
        You going to back Danger with the VC? Hard to pass up on his scoring history against gws

        • Lekdog says:

          Don’t have Danger right now so will be hard to VC him. Haven’t looked too hard at this weeks options but Cripps onto Gawn for the third week in a row might do the trick

      • SC_Sixty6 says:

        Wow didn't want to follow me on Gawn last week Lek! Poor fella would of been #50 odd!

        If Wow can finish around top 10 like I think he can we might have to have you as a guest speaker lek? A big public figure like yourself will open the flood gates of viewers.

        I'll be giving the best insight I can and keep wow calm which is always best from an outside view looking in. Can get hairy with stressful decisions to make.

  3. DANGER1VDUSTY2 says:

    Why is there not a podcast anywhere after the last game of the round (usually Sunday night) just after the official scores come through?

  4. Corey says:

    Will Brodie continues to dominate in the VFL surely he can’t be too far away

  5. hedski says:

    Thanks Baz you do a great job.
    Not sure I need to worry about rookies now, I'll be outta trades in 3 weeks.

    • The Ranger says:

      Yeah I'm just saving all my trades for injuries now Hedski.
      23 left should just about cover them all but I might be a couple short.

  6. John says:

    DEF: laird yeo Sicily finlayson doedee Murray (naughton Murphy)
    MID: Fyfe Martin Mitchell Cripps Coniglio Zorko Kelly Holman (Banfield Brayshaw Barry)
    RUCK: Martin Gawn (Cameron)
    FWD: Heeney Greene Billings Christensen Fristch Guelfi (Henry Keefe)

    Probably going to hold this week, thoughts guys?

    • Rocksta says:

      You’ve only got 14 Keepers, and 2 of those are Zorko and Billings. Just to pit it into persoective, I have 17 after this weeks trades( although one of them is Billings)
      You need to trade. I’m assuming you have a bit of money. Cash in a rookie and upgrade another.

    • Sam says:

      Gotta get rid of Zorko I reckon. Has a huge BE and is gonna drop the 400k. Try picking up a fallen premium such as Merrett, Neale or JPK.

      • John says:

        I have about $220k on the side so I can upgrade him. But I’m sort of hoping he comes good, isn’t looking likely though.

        • Rocksta says:

          Don’t do a sideways trade with only 14 Keepers. You can move him on as a corrective trade later in the season if he doesn’t come good.
          You’ve missed the boat on a couple of rookies before their price rise over the past couple of weeks ( Higgins, Mirra, Guelfi), so I’d go early on one this week. Maybe Banfield to Spargo and Holman to Zerrett.
          Or if Duman is named, he is on the bubble so you could go naughton to duman and Banfield to zerrett.

          • John says:

            yeah I may do that, I have 24 trades left by the way

            • Rocksta says:

              Ok,
              Then definitely don’t waste any more on sideways trades. You are lucky that you have $220 K in the kitty and a stepping stone in Christensen. As such, you may get away with only using 15 trades for your last 8 Rookie upgrades. You then probably need to budget on 2 other trades for LTI’s, leaving you with 7 trades at full premium which is okay.
              At that point, you can give Zorko the Flick if he doesn’t come good.

        • Russty_ says:

          Hi John, he's getting hard tagged every week mate, his career could be over, I'd think about punting him as he obviously can't find a way to deal with it.

    • DavidSA says:

      I hope to have 19 keepers after next week and me thinks with the rooks we have been blessed with most will have 18-19 keepers next week too. Zorko and Billings are a problem but gotta get rid of 1 and hope the other can lift and if he can't that's a corrective to make as the last upgrade.

  7. TommyC99 says:

    Is Taylin Duman a worthwhile pick this week?

  8. DacZawson says:

    Who's the better pick out of Cole or Mirra?

  9. James says:

    I saw on fanfooty that Cole had 5 frees for rather than against, might need to check that Barron.
    Great article anyway 🙂

  10. Trades says:

    Murray to Hibberd
    Banfield to Kennedy

  11. ROB14 says:

    What are people's thought on Parker? Dirt cheap but not playing to well at moment… Bargain?

    • Ja191 says:

      No point getting him until he shows some form. He won’t appreciate until he strings a few good games together. I’d think about getting him in then

    • redherringfc says:

      He’ll drop even further with a high BE this week.

      If he’s on your shopping list wait at least another week and then only get him when you see signs of improvement.

      If you’re after a bargain JPK is 40k cheaper, scored 125 last week and has a BE of 78. I’ve gone with him this week as a potential keeper, but he might end up a place holder, for Crouch, who makes a bit of coin.

  12. Steve says:

    Banfield to Duman through the powers of DPP and then Bonner to Seedsman/Lloyd. Thoughts?

  13. SC_Sixty6 says:

    Deledio to miss this week.

  14. KSinny says:

    Banfield to Worpel
    Murray to Hurley/Yeo

    Trading Murray because he has a BE of 54 and the amount of money he will make from now on wont be worth the points lost, also i want to get full premo asap.
    Who to get out of Hurley and Yeo?

    • redherringfc says:

      Yeo has only had one stinker this year, but it was a whopper. I’d wait on him until after he produces his next steamer, i don’t think you’ll have to wait too long.

      Hurley is only 17k more, should average more. He is the better buy at the moment.

      Look at Yeo in 4 rounds after he scores -17 against Richmond, after gets a run with role on Dusty.

    • Marty says:

      Both good but for consistency I prefer Hurley

  15. Loop says:

    Just read on the GWS site that Deledio will miss this week. Langdon might be OK so thats good news.

  16. BadgerHoney7 says:

    Advice on Walters, Freo have posted and said only 2-3 weeks. What shall I do now.

    • redherringfc says:

      How are you for trades and bench cover?

      If you have ok cover and you think you’ll bring him back in then he’s probably worth holding.

    • Tiger says:

      Agree with redherringfc. It's really what suits you best. I'm keeping him for a number of reasons. Freo plays late in rounds 7-8-10 which suits me for my v/c captain options and loopholing any good scores on my fwd/mid bench. Plus you save a valuable trade. Only downside I see is with Taberner out for awhile Walters will play more fwd thus reducing his midfield minutes which is why I picked him from the start. Maybe a loss of some points, I guess time will tell.

    • SC_Sixty6 says:

      The way I see it is I'll continue my plan to upgrade premos and when he comes back a premo is in my side without trading. Sideways trade puts me back a week or 2 so not keen on that. Will ride it out. Hopefully he's back to cover gray in rd 10 are my thoughts.

  17. Moosehead says:

    How does one get a SC account? Sick of the slagging. Perhaps next year SC accounts will be compulsory.

  18. FreddoFrog says:

    Ouch!
    To the 9,000 coaches who grabbed Lids last week, I feel for you but he was always going to break again. It's only a hammy 4-weeks should be enough

    • DavidSA says:

      As much as the fwd line has been on ice so far 3 were huge risks Lids (injury history / age) Billings and Petracca both not proven premiums. I however don't have anything against selecting a potentetial break out year player but Billings has been a huge burn.

      This season is only 6 rounds in and it's dished up a lot of crazy changes

      Rockliff can't even run water out for Port.
      Zorko is not getting tagged he is getting mugged.
      Danger avg 112 which is -24 compared to his (2017 – 136 avg season) and set to drop to 630k from 750k.

      But where there is darkness there is light and this years rookies have been arguably the best in history.

      • Sc_Wow says:

        Picking lids was always a risk.

        I’m hopeful Danger can still build into to season. Slowish start last year too, surely it’s just a matter of time

        • SC_Donkey says:

          I think many coaches are forgetting Danger in Adelaide days he always had a slow start early in the season. He used to go big towards the bye rounds and continues to the end of the season. Keep your faith and believe in him.

          • DavidSA says:

            Honeymoon period – i can speak for Danger as a fellow footy player it's him going to Geelong a club he barracked for + a midfield that can dig into a would be tagger. Imagine how that would feel to be refreshed, new coach, new team, no regrets (he gave the Crows a lot).

            Think it's just a factor of that Honeymoon period coming to an end, team has changed a lot since he arrived but he is a legit 120+ player for 3 more years

        • Holty01 says:

          He will. He will be in my side by seasons end. Just not in a rush to get him at present.

        • Tibor says:

          If Danger had a history of being a slow starter and had an injury in the pre season and was out for round one, why all the criticism for those of us that elected not to start with him

        • LEN says:

          lids is whose nickname?

      • Crowboy94 says:

        Danger will get better when dumb ass Scott decides to play him in the midfield most of the game instead of FWD…

        • Brim_Cat says:

          Danger had no preseason, and has been carrying an injury, hence why he's played a bit more forward. At times he has almost been a liability. Another couple of weeks and he should be right. Very handy for those that started without him!

      • Marty says:

        Don't think buyers could ever imagine Billings or St Kilda would be this poor, especially with 10 scores over 100 and the last five scores in 2017 being 104, 96, 112, 130 and 103. He looked the perfect break out candidate.

    • Cogla13 says:

      Was always a huge risk.

  19. KSinny says:

    im really tempted just to get rid of billings this week and get mclean in. thoughts?

  20. DavidSA says:

    Ok Derek talked me into staying

    It's the real chip this time – will see my comment history goes back 260 odd weeks

  21. Mystic_Mac says:

    Do we think Buddy misses next week as well? I don't have Heeney, could sideways trade.. but I'd ideally like to hold Bud. Also have Tracca on the pine. Thoughts community?

  22. Tiger says:

    Why so many people choosing Cole over Duman ? Ross Lyon has shown he will play the young kids and give them ago. In my opinion both are decent downgrades with Duman being the pick due to price. Your thoughts appreciated.

    • Crowboy94 says:

      Agreed

    • SC_Donkey says:

      Hehe i was in the pub last week, kept hearing this voice at the backgroung talking to his mates. He was speaking in another language, almost every 3rd word he said sounded like "Donna" "Donut" "Duma". Now i realized he was actually saying "Duman" hehe

    • Holty01 says:

      As said below:
      the price difference between the 2 is $50k which equates to less then 10 sc points for an average. I think the big question is will Cole outscore Duman by more then 10 points per game? I have not seen either play so cant comment on the possibility. Maybe someone else could help with this?

    • Cogla13 says:

      If you have to field him then Cole is the better option, better JS, better scoring, better bye round. If you just need bench cover and cash gen the Duman is the man.

    • Marty says:

      I think Cole will reach the higher price with a better score in a shorter period. Performing very well at the moment. More job security than Duman. We have all been put off by underforming rookies with a higher price. Understand why people don't want him though at that price. I'm undecided whether to pass on him or not.

  23. SC_Donkey says:

    Hahaha this time last year I had a dream that M Crouch was gonna be top 5 midfielder and Hanners top 15 midfielder by end of 2017.
    Last night had a dream my SC team ended up top 1k overall ranking. Man really hope so, will be my best ranking ever in last 7 years.

  24. AuroraBorealis?! says:

    A lot of people were talking up Cole throughout the preseason and i think he'll be a very good player for the eagles, however his slightly higher scoring potential doesn't justify his starting price. Rookies are about making money, and if Duman can get consistent games then go with him.

    • DavidSA says:

      agree the value of making that extra cash is about bringing in a cheap 100-130k rookie

    • Holty01 says:

      Nice call. However, the price difference between the 2 is $50k which equates to less then 10 sc points for an average. I think the big question is will Cole outscore Duman by more then 10 points per game? I have not seen either play so cant comment on the possibility. Maybe someone else could help with this?

      • DavidSA says:

        yes on a cash gen level that might be the case.
        But on taking that extra 50k you can make a huge difference in who you upgrade to. Like a Hurley with trading in Duman or Howe trading in Cole.

        • Holty01 says:

          agree david. It depends on your situation. If you want to paint the fence, that 50k could potentially help bring in a laird oppose to Hurley.
          If its trying to build that war chest for a trade in the future, then in my opinion you need to look at the long term potential.

  25. TRIGGA_HAPPY says:

    With some cows coming to the end of their moo and soooo many downgrade options next week (providing they all get a gig again) is it time to break the golden rule and go early on one this week?
    Wouldnt go spargo like the way he goes about it but unsure of JS when tracca comes back
    Same with ronke and buddy
    But
    Worpel looks like a beaut and one u could possibly go early on?

    • Keenbutclueless says:

      Derek made the point that Shiels coming back might impact on Worpel.

      Spargo was impressive. So was Mutch. Didn’t see Ronke.

      For Spargo, Petracca and Garlett might squeeze him.

      At a guess, it might be Mutch with the best job security. Looking at my trades this week, the DPP for Spargo make him my best choice, followed by Mutch. Like you, I am going early on one. Next week also one when I paint the fence for Crouch. Means I will miss one – that’s definitely the one you should get next week!

      • Derek says:

        I think Shield back this week will cost Worpel his spot. Also need to fit Sicily in.

        • Steeeve says:

          Really hoping Sicily does not come back at the expense of the man in the Mirra

          • Derek says:

            Mirra has been good. So has Duray and Morrison. Whitecross waiting for a chance as well. Burgoyne can play anywhere, he could go forward for Sicily to keep Mirra

            I can’t stand Langford, turns the ball over every time he touches it. I’d have Worpel ahead of Langford

      • neil demons delight says:

        Melbourne will continue with Spargo They like dual small forwards and garlett and kent wont trouble him

        • Steeeve says:

          Hoping so — think I'll bring him in this week.
          Will allow me to either bring in two downgrade rookies next week or paint the fence. Matt Crouch should have bottomed out in price by then.

    • JohnDJ59 says:

      Hey Trigga, I could be very wrong on this, but I reckon Spargo could be in the Dees lineup for a while, he came in for Garlett who had been down on form after his top year last year. If Spargo keeps his form up there is no reason why he shouldn't stay in the team. I'm getting him in due to the injuries in my fwd line.

    • INPieman says:

      Looking at going early on one of them as well Trig. This looks like the week to move JOM on to a top liner. Which one, I'm not sure. Wait for selections

      • TRIGGA_HAPPY says:

        Next week u are gonna have a discount premium bonanza

        Zerrett, crouch similar price $530k
        Oliver abit more
        Danger, titch, dusty all reduced
        As have bottom 3 looking at one of the top 3.

  26. Cotchinator says:

    Going early on Crouch this week.
    Yes I know his B/E is 182, but I need to move on Greene (6th L.T.I. trade so far) and if I don't do it now I will change my mind and end up doing something ridiculous, which seems to be my pattern this year.
    Going to put the C on him too, his 100 last week from 74% T.O.G. was impressive.
    The way my year is going so far he will probably come off the ground after 5 minutes and be out for the rest of the year.

  27. BadgerHoney7 says:

    Hey guys need help with Walters trade.

    Before both trades have 24 trades left ( 400 k in the kitty )

    Option 1: Walters to Gray and Banfield to Zerret (left with 22 trades and 40 odd k in the kitty)
    Option 2: Hold Walters, go Jack Henry up to Gray and Banfield to Spargo (left with 22 trades and 193k in kitty)
    This then allows me to go Garlett to Mutch/Worpel and also Holman up to Zerrett next week

    Leaning towards Option 2 at the moment.

  28. Simo036 says:

    Am upgrading one of Holman/Banfield/Brayshaw to Neale. Who should I punt 1st of this trio?

  29. Brim_Cat says:

    Hi guys need some thoughts on jacobs (Sauce)? He's been quite frustrating! Do i trade him now ? Or save him for my last upgrade? (i also have billings) would be having a good season if not for those 2. Would love some feedback , cheers!!

    • Brim_Cat says:

      Thinking about upgrading around them, would love to know what other people think??

      • theRealPod says:

        Billings is toxic unable to kick straight. He's had 1 good game the rest massive turds. I've been patient with him but during the last Saints game I nearly blew a gasket and swore I'd dump him this week, just gotta decide who to bring in.

        Not sure about Sauce, is he playing? I haven't seen or heard anything about him.

        • Brim_Cat says:

          Yeah i picked sauce as a bit of a POD, chose him over Grundy, aren't i smart haha! Yeah billings has been a joke, but i only just got rid of zorko and really hate sideways trades. If i trade billings he'll end up turning it around, i haven't seen much of the saints but he seems to be playing more forward this year. If i trade would only be to mcclean, not sure whether that's a smart move or not….

          • theRealPod says:

            Zorko was out of my team after round 1, brought in Dusty, happy I did that. We can't predict how a player will perform so picking Sauce over Grundy is completely understandable.

    • Da Boysh says:

      i would leave the sauce and focus on other problem areas. Rucks are a mess and are all prone to injury/crapness. If you have a Ruckman that is playing each week thats good enough for me. I have Nank and he will be the very last person I upgrade (if at all)

  30. Daniel says:

    First trade this week is banfield to spargo, with 450k in the bank, for my second trade, do i trade l.murphy or zgl to mcclean this week? Will leave my forward ln like this: Heeney Mclean Smith Petracca Billings Fritsch Guelfi and Henry

  31. Tibor says:

    Def: Laird. Simpson. Finlayson. Doedee. Murray. Naughton. Mirra. Murphy

    Mid: Danger. Titch. Dusty. Fyfe. Bont. Whitfield. Tim Kelly. Holman. Banfield. Garlett. Fogarty

    Ruck: Gawn. Nank. Cameron

    Fwd. Heeny. Greene. Petracca. Hogan. Mundy. Fisher. Stevenson. Fritsch

    Current rank. 647. 26 trades. And 10 k in the bank.

    Traded out Sicily after flog 1 and stamped papers never again. Brought in Bonner. Giles
    Langdon went out for Fisher. Then traded Bonner out for Mirra on the bubble and brought in Danger for JOM.

    All considered an ok start.

    A few issues this week in the fwd line.

    I'm thinking it's time for Holman to bugger off. The other to go might have to be Toby Greene given the uncertainty of his injury and return date. Also if he goes I'm flog free. As for ins it will be either Cripps or Oliver plus a cheap option in the fwd line

    Please any thoughts but NOT SICILY papers stamped for at least threes years…

    Many thanks

  32. James says:

    Who is the best option to bring in this week out of Danger, Mclean and Dusty, I feel that as Dusty has a date with jacobs coming up that I can pick him up around the byes at a cheaper price than what he currently is, Danger has already dropped 110k and with his lowest score being 94, I don't see him going down to 500-550k at all this year, while Mclean is playing gold coast and with 4 of his first 6 games going 110+ i think he can do well this week, but feel like i may have missed the boat/potentially paying overs for him. Thoughts?

  33. Sc_Wow says:

    Good work cleaning up the site boys 👍🏼

  34. AB13 says:

    Thinking Buddy to Gray this week, I kept him last week but at this point I can't just keep carrying him on my bench. Was considering Deledio but the news today ruled that out.

    After that I have 21 trades and 170K left for this week.

    I have 3 issues that are coming up at the moment. Jaeger, Holman and Petracca. I am comfortable keeping Petracca and sort of expected the output I'm getting from him. I can either upgrade Jaeger to any premo midfielder except for Fyfe, Ablett, Danger or Downgrade Holman and then look for Jaeger to Fyfe next week and another upgrade.

    I'm more focused on fixing my side now than worrying about having trades left later.

  35. neil demons delight says:

    It is purely a guess to say who is in a full prem team and really what's the difference between an M 8 OR M10. We can ONLY . call last years top prem team .. If I had ABLETT as my last prem mid I am sure ppl would say he is not a prem but what if he cracks 10 tons in a row and DANGER does a knee. It's an educated guess Whose going to tell me now in round 6 TARANTO FISHER or even BILLINGS is not a prem forward Tell me in round 23 and I might agree cheers

  36. DavidSA says:

    Chad Cornes suspended for a week!
    This is going to hurt teams

  37. LEN says:

    whose is LIDS please??

  38. Jason Di Staso says:

    Beams finally going to come good? Is he still top premo?

  39. jeff says:

    PETRACCA TO TARANTO OR BOAK?

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