HEROES, VILLAINS AND THE DAMNED

Some weekends remind us why we love Supercoach. This was not one of those weekends. This was one of those weekends which result in us shouting at our sides. So, without any further ado, let’s begin shouting.

The Heroes

Second-year Cat Brandon Parfitt (169 SC) was brilliant in Geelong’s big win over St Kilda, gathering 28 disposals and kicking three goals on the way to the biggest SuperCoach score of his career. North Melbourne spearhead Ben Brown (167 SC) had a day out for the Roos down in Tassie, slotting five majors on his way to best-on-ground honours.

Brownlow medallist Dustin Martin (141 SC) only had 17 disposals for the Tigers but booted six goals straight to reward those who had the VC on him. Power mid/forward Robbie Gray (145 SC) has shot back into back into SC relevance after playing a primarily midfield role, gathering 39 disposals and 10 clearances.  Melbourne ball-magnet Clayton Oliver (128 SC) had another good game despite his side’s poor outing, with 23 out of his 28 touches being contest possessions.

Collingwood shocked the Crows on Friday night on the back of ruck colossus Brodie Grundy (141 SC). He had 34 disposals, 40 hit outs, 23 contested possessions and 12 clearances to absolutely monster the respected Sauce Jacobs. Teammate Steele Sidebottom (138 SC) was irresistible in the middle with 43 possessions, 27 of them contested, seven tackles and 12 clearances. Champion defender Rory Laird (129 SC) was Adelaide’s best with 37 touches.

Other significant scores: Luke Bruest (142 SC), Aaron Sandilands (139 SC), Jack Ziebell (132 SC), David Swallow (129 SC), Shaun Atley (128 SC), Ed Curnow (126 SC), Matt Suckling (123 SC), Liam Shiels (123 SC), Trent Cotchin (122 SC), Shaun Higgens (122 SC), Jeremy McGovern (121 SC), David Meyers (121 SC), Adam Treloar (120 SC), Luke Dustan (120 SC), Isaac Heeney (120SC).

The Villains

Popular Demons pair Michael Hibberd (78 SC) and Christian Petracca (69 SC) were amongst many Melbourne players that failed to live up expectations on Sunday. Hibberd’s role seems to have changed and the fact he’s no longer taking kick-ins for Melbourne should be of serious concern to his owners. Petracca, like many of his teammates, failed to have an impact as the Hawks ran riot.

Patrick Dangerfield (103SC) tonned up, but only just. Against the Saints at home many of us had the C on him, and 103 doesn’t cut it considering we held the most expensive bloke on the bench for a week only for him to dish up this. Tom Mitchell (90SC) was well held by the Dees in another frustrating captaincy selection.

Defensive trio Kade Simpson (79 SC), Heath Shaw (75 SC) and Luke Ryan (51 SC) were all below their best. Simpson has been outstanding to start 2018 and was due for a quiet game, while Shaw has revealed his true colours after starting the season with back-to-back tons.

Forward options Michael Waters (72 SC) and Jack Billings (65 SC) were both highly underwhelming, with Billings producing his second mediocre score in a row. North ruck Todd Goldstein (76 SC) doesn’t look like returning to the glory days of old at this stage, while Sydney midfield pair Josh Kennedy (46 SC) and Dan Hannebery (67 SC) seem to have lost their mojo.

The Redeemers

We haven’t seen a more complete Redeemer game than what Elliott Yeo (150 SC) produced on Saturday night. Yeo had an absolute stinker last week playing off half back, sitting on 0 SC points at three-quarter-time and finishing with 27 for the match. On Saturday he played exclusively in the midfield and tallied 33 disposals and 11 marks to finish with an epic score. His owners will be hoping this sort of form can continue.

Jaeger O’Meara (145 SC) has burnt his owners plenty of times but those who stuck fat this year are now reaping the rewards. He played arguably his best game for the Hawks and looked a million dollars in the Brown and Gold’s midfield.

Sam Menegola (129 SC) continued his bi-polar start to 2018. After producing terrible scores from his opening two matches – forcing many owners to trade him out – the absence of Gary Ablett seems to have benefited the mature-ager significantly. He’s now posted two 120+ scores on the trot.

GWS youngster Tim Taranto (116 SC) burned a lot of owners that traded him in last week but he rebounded in fine fashion on Saturday with 11 tackles and 21 possessions. Teammate Brett Deledio (115 SC) also looms a viable option if he can continue this sort of form. He finished with 28 possessions.

Essendon pair Michal Hurley (117 SC) and Zach Merrett (107 SC) were both standouts for the Bombers and rebounded are quiet starts to 2018, as did Richmond’s Kane Lambert (119 SC). Brisbane forward Allen Christensen (97 SC) rewarded his owners with another solid score and looks an excellent value buy this season.

The Prodigies

Magpies forward Jaidyn Stephenson (107 SC) dazzled with five goals, while Geelong pair Tim Kelly (89 SC) and Lachlan Fogarty (80 SC) again scored well. Popular defensive rookies Jeremy Finlayson (101 SC) and Sam Murray (92 SC) provided their owners with reassurance they can be started safely on the field, however the same cannot be said for Crows defender Tom Doedee (57 SC).

Saints bubble boy Nick Coffield (80 SC) looked at home despite his team’s poor performance, while Essendon first-gamer Matt Guelfi (71 SC) looms as a must-have next week if he can repeat his opening heroics. The same goes for Hawthorn mature-age defender David Mirra (77 SC), who looked completely at home in his first match ay AFL level.

Freo duo Bailey Banfield (69 SC) and Mitch Crowden (61 SC) were solid against GWS, while Bulldogs trio Tim English (78 SC), Aaron Naughton (78 SC) and Ed Richards (67 SC) also banked respectable scores. Forwards Jarrod Garlett (71 SC) and Jake Waterman (61 SC) found plenty of the ball.

Other rookie scores: Esava Ratugolea (60 SC), Bailey Fritsch (58 SC), Willie Rioli (48 SC), Billy Gowers (48 SC), Jack Henry (46 SC), Lochie O’Brien (46 SC), Cam O’Shea (45 SC), Darcy Fogarty (44 SC), Andrew Brayshaw (42 SC), Paddy Dowe (41 SC), Luke Davies-Uniacke (37 SC), Adam Cerra (34 SC), Zac Bailey (15 SC).

The Damned

Wounded Crow Rory Sloane (59 SC) only 16 possessions and was hobbling for most of Friday night with a foot injury.  Hid body just doesn’t seem right at this point so a sideways trade should be considered. Forward Cyril Rioli (41 SC) did a medial ligament in his knee in the second quarter of Hawthorn’s win and didn’t return. Keep an eye on his prognoses during the week.

Rookies Daniel Venebles (61 SC) and Nick Holman (31 SC) may need to be traded out, with Venebles appearing to suffer a shin injury while Holman had a match he would rather forget and does not look like generating a huge amount of cash in the coming weeks. Riley Bonner (60 SC) has also stalled in scoring, with his cash generation also slowing down dramatically.

Who are you screaming at this week, community? How did you score? Who are you trading?

 

 

 

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  1. Harry says:

    Billings >:(

  2. Krups says:

    Do we look at trading billings or goldy?

    • Steeeve says:

      I'm holding Goldy. Fair chance whoever I bring in will spud it up. Just hope he throws a few tons out there. He was terrible last year and still averaged 90 odd.

  3. PerthPies says:

    Well done, Parfitt. Got to love it when an opponent has a bloke like Parfitt in his team, who is projected to score 70 and actually scores nearly 100 than that to beat you by 30. He will never get near this score again in his career. Oh well, better now than a final….

  4. Earl says:

    G’day Community,

    What do I do with Billings and Hibberd?

    Looking at possibly Billings to a McLean or Greene?
    And with Hibberd looking like he’d rather the ball roll over the line than actually pick it up I’d take any opinions on who to take instead of him.

    Cheers guys

    • r_calve says:

      wait another week for merrett to bottom out

    • David C says:

      I'm looking at Hibberd to Danger next week.

    • Scouser says:

      McLean a safer option atm Earl, running through the guts and involved in the thick if it, teammates always looking for him also so he's a key COG in Bevis midfield plan this year. Greene is sublimely talented but just too untrustworthy for a full season of SC for mine, prime candidate for finals time though!

  5. Dylan says:

    The rate that Kreuzer and Hibberd are going at, my patience is wearing very thin. Surely Kreuz to Grundy and Hibberd to Yeo or Ryan are sensible trades.

  6. BadgerHoney7 says:

    Bonner, average after first round.

  7. BadgerHoney7 says:

    Thank god I stuck fat with JOM, and started with Nic Nat. Two great mid pricers going well.

    • Superspuds says:

      Fisher to Mclean and Steven to Dusty should fix a couple of holes for me but I still have Hibberd and Bont

    • Marty says:

      Yes I'm very happy i started with O'Meara but I shouldn't speak too soon; the Supercoach Gods are always listening.

    • Whatyasmokin says:

      JOM was such a gun, slight burns last year starting with him, and I said last year id go through it all again just for the chance he came good. People probably thought I was nuts, hopefully it pays off all year.

  8. r_calve says:

    do billings and zorko have to go

    • joe says:

      Gotta hold Billings because he's doing exactly what we expected of him. Last year he had three games scoring in the 50s but still ended up with an average of 92 and was (from memory) a top 10 forward.

    • David C says:

      Billings might come good, I'm sitting on him until the byes and will trade him then if he hasn't improved. Zorko on the other hand has lost his magic wand. Beams is not firing and Rocky is gone. The opposition are going to target Zorko. If I had him I'd be moving him on.

  9. r_calve says:

    and what forwards and mids should i trade in

  10. JamBak says:

    Thoughts on Bonner & fisher to Merrett and Mirra?

  11. yaboyazza says:

    Kreuz and Billings absolutely killing me,
    Option 1: Hold both
    Option 2: Kreuz > Grundy, Billings > promising looking fwd (taranto/deledio?)
    Option 3: Kreuz > Nic Nat, Billings > more expensive fwd (walters?)
    Thought anyone?

  12. Steeeve says:

    Holman really looked the goods. What a shame. I love the look of Coffield but will wait a week and squeeze an extra drop out of Bonner/Brayshaw/Holman. Then pounce on Mirra and maybe Guelfi. Hoping at least one of the three puts up a big score so I know who to keep for longer.

  13. Sixty6 says:

    Good job SC_Wow. Research pays off! 610 overall rank mate!

    My 2205 got me into 3k. Will only climb!

  14. Gees says:

    Can everyone trade on the app? The trade section doesn't work/hasn't synced although everything else has.

  15. Gees says:

    Blake Acres is definitely peaking my interest

  16. JJames says:

    Need a sub 470k player, Out of Luke Ryan and Jake Lyod who would be the best option? And I know ryan might falll in price soon but I need a premium out of the 2 this round

    • Demons 5th 4 2018 says:

      Jake Lloyd will average mid 90's for sure but if you want 100+ you will need to pony up $$$ or wait or get more cash for Yeo 509k (BE 122)
      STRONG PASS ON RYAN for me.

      • JJames says:

        Luke Ryan was looking the goods until this round maybe it was just a bad game and everyone has bad games maybe except Tom bloody Mitchell, What makes Ryan a strong pass for you?

  17. Andrew says:

    Heeney, Smith, Tracca, Taranto, Stephenson, Garlett (Fritsch, Henry)
    Am I too short in the fwd line have 275k in the kitty but the cows haven’t fattened enough

  18. Laird Lad Donuts says:

    Thoughts on Alex Witherden? scored 103 giving him an average so far of 90, If brisbane keep getting pumped maybe that means more points for witherden?

    In his 13 game career he has already scored 86+ 8 times and only scored under 72 once (69)

  19. BlueBaggerJosh says:

    Is it worth going early on Mirra if by trading him in for Bonner it allows me to upgrade a failed midpricer in fwd to a premo and in 1-2 weeks Holman to merrett?

  20. Coxy says:

    I have 28 trades left and 150K,
    Is that money worth using to sideways trade nank to Grundy? It seems like his form will stay this way and he's a must have ruckman.

    • Scouser says:

      Done the exact trade this week Coxy, Nanks history shows he is around the 100 mark, this year's elite ruckmen are stepping it up so a trade to Grundy looks ideal atm IMO. Cox not really impacting him and he looks in top form.

  21. theRealPod says:

    Bit harsh Danger in villians

  22. Hayden says:

    Backline: Laird, Hibberd, Bonner, Finlayson, Doedee, Murray. Bench: Murphy, Naughton.

    Should I trade Hibberd to somebody like Witherden or down to a rookie such as Mirra/Coffield? Haven't got spare cash to upgrade beyond $481k.

  23. Mick says:

    I would love your thoughts community.
    Jack Macrae/Coffield 13k in bank
    Or
    Robbie gray/Mirra 150k in bank
    Trading out Billings n fisher.

  24. Yap says:

    Got 193k in the kitty, but got Hibberd, Billings and Brayshaw. Could easily go both Hibberd and Billings up to say McLean and Hurley, or I could trade one and go Brayshaw to Coffield? Or I could even leave Brayshaw and go Dom Barry to Coffield? Thoughts?

    • JohnDJ59 says:

      Any of the trades you have mentioned look good,both Hibbo & Billings are not traveling well and Hurley & McLean should be in the top def & fwds, but cash generation is also paramount and Coffield looks the goods.

    • Whatyasmokin says:

      Not a big fan of these sideways moves. If Barry isnt named then trade him to Coffield.

  25. StevoRivo says:

    Is Hibberd a must trade now? Not injured but looks like averaging 85/90 at best. Have 28 trades & $195k.

    Can’t see any breakout defenders either. Have Laird and the rookies doing ok for now. Do I hold another week or so and wait for the rooks to fatten up more?

  26. Sc_Wow says:

    Now moved to 610 over all.
    It was a tough week for everyone and now I see lots of people proposing sideways trades. Remember billings scored a 130 a few weeks ago, the aim of the game is it buy low sell high. Trading a billings to a McLean or gray is really going to slow you down with other upgrades. Sticking with Hibberd for now, upgrade the rest of my team, see who the must have defenders are.

    • Crowboy94 says:

      So if I could go Brayshaw down to another rookie and upgrade Doedee to a premo DEF leaving me with still 100k in the bank would you?

      • Sc_Wow says:

        Yeah something like that is ok although dodee still has money to make.
        I just wouldn’t use my war chest on a sideways trade

    • Mick says:

      Do you think trade fisher to Kent is a side ways trade as well? Or fisher down to a rookie n free up money?

    • theRealPod says:

      Nice rank keep it going. Agree with your post no need to panic, stick fat and look for fallen premium bargains.

    • Tibor says:

      I don't think the ranking is a great indicator at this stage WoW. 19 points covers 600 all the way to 800 and The 1000th ranked player is only 30 odd points from you.

      The top tier on the other hand has really scooted away. With the leader being close to a staggering 400 points in front of you.

      Trade numbers interest me more. Agree 100 % on the avoiding sideways trades and patience with premos but not sure when the best time to cash in a cow. I'm still holding Naughton Finlayson Doedee Murphy Murray Holman Kelly Banfield Garlett Fisher Fogarty and Fritsch. Have only used 2 trades and seriously considering leaving well enough alone for at least another week while they fatten up.

      My past history is to be very miserly with trades early then step it up through the byes for a strong finish, This is good for league finishes but maybe there is a better way for ranking

      Any thoughts

      • Sc_Wow says:

        Yeah I’ve actually consistently made ground on that top tier in terms of points, started 600 off and have been closing every week. Think I’m should be allowed to share my rank.

        Yeah I think getting full premo early as possible, picking off players when they have bottomed out. And structure for byes

        • Tibor says:

          No blue on sharing the rank but it's all very close around that point, have gone from 300's to now low 800's in just two weeks. Captain choice can be so critical I had Dusty two weeks back and now Titch and haven't had a ton from either.

          Still focused on timing the Danger in call. His break even is still over 200 again this week. I've got JOM and the rookies previously mentioned so one more hold week should see me get Danger at a tidy discount.

          What could possibly go wrong?

          • Sc_Wow says:

            Same can be said for me readrding captains, id be top 100 if I hadn’t backed Danger twice

            Danger could go 200 and Jom could do a hammy

            • Tibor says:

              The Danger going the double ton call is not unreasonable most people would expect this to happen eventually and a return to Adelaide this weekend makes that at least some chance. I took the gamble by not starting him so I'll roll the dice just once more and get him for the game after.

            • Marty says:

              Captains have cost me two out of the last three weeks. Congrats on your ranking. Trying to get mine higher than 4k.

    • Derek says:

      Great advice Wow

      Even if you are upgrading a Lobb or someone else, don’t automatically go for McLean or Gray. They are too expensive now. Look for value elsewhere.

      Make your own decisions.

      Think about Jocks’s vacuum of opportunity

      Cyril and Poppy going down at Hawthorn. What opportunities does that present?

    • SC_Sixty6 says:

      Nice job wow

    • Ricardo says:

      Agreed. Billings had it 23 times yesterday, just couldn't hit a target and kicked a couple of behinds. Once he hits a few more targets those 60s become 80s or 90s.

    • Holty01 says:

      Nice. I am sitting at 283…………………7………………..9
      My inability to hit the vc has hurt. Havent been able to use 1 vc score to date

    • belly button fluff says:

      Hey Wow nice ranking well done. Considering my team is doing shit for some reason (weird because I thought it the best in a long time), can I at least say I told you so when it came to Danger and him not scoring more than his average against STK. Just so I can tell the grand-kiddies I told the great Wow he was making a bad choice. ;P
      Just stirrin ya. You've got me everywhere else I reckon. 😀
      Nice work!

      • Sc_Wow says:

        Yep be sure to tell them that mate. I’m backing the big danger in again though. Carn danger

        • belly button fluff says:

          I think I may join you this week which means I am getting him a week earlier than I was planning, but I think I will feel a lot better with him. Every time he touches the ball for the first in a game lately, I do a little poo in my pants. I think this is the week in Adelaide he scores well, provided it is sunny.

        • Russty_ says:

          well done wow with the rank, hope you can challenge the big prize this year, it'd be great for one of the JR community to win it, it would automatically make you a God 🙂

          • Crazy eyes says:

            ohhhhh slurp slurp slurp, you are all bum chums after your bans

            • Russty_ says:

              Hi Crazy Eyes, we were already bum chums before that mate, I can recognize someone who contributes something good to the community from someone like you, who really doesn't, good luck with your trolling, it won't last long.

              • Bill says:

                thats a big sentence for someone with all those balls in his mouth, mmm 66 your fab deary

                • Russty_ says:

                  Hi Bill, I make a mean Turkey meatball dish mate, I use a shitload of garlic, onions, chilli, my own home grown Tomatoes in the sauce, to die for!… you should come over for dinner sometime, I'm a pretty good cook.

                • Russty_ says:

                  P.S I make my own hand rolled pasta too…Belisimo!

                • SC_Sixty6 says:

                  Hey Bill I know good Tarantino movie you can watch. It has your name in the title. <img draggable="false" class="emoji" alt="😊" src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/2.4/svg/1f60a.svg"&gt;

                  • Trevor says:

                    Cool, Pulp Fiction has a scene with you and your gimp Rusty

                    • Russty_ says:

                      That could've been funny 25 years ago.

                    • sebastian says:

                      bring out the snitch, i mean gimp

                    • Russty_ says:

                      I'm so glad you, Sebastian, and Trevor and Bill, and crazy eyes and teehee can all join us tonight, it's so nice to spend time with good friends who share a similar interest in the finer points of Supercoach, well done guys for supporting the community, much appreciated 🙂
                      You're all top blokes and deserve to be recognized.

                    • SC_Sixty6 says:

                      Just one bloke at it again aye. What a life. Trolling for no real purpose other than to add excitement to the poor souls boring meaningless life. Poor fella.

                    • Russty_ says:

                      Haha yeah he's getting really good value out of his VPN, Lek just needs to block his port and they'll all be stuffed lol

        • Kim says:

          Are you worried that Ebert will tag danger sc_wow? Very risky captain this week, like tmitch this week also Jacobs odds on to tag him. No way I'd captain either of them this week. Dusty or Fyfe for me.

          • Russty_ says:

            Definitely a risk Kim, but i think if Danger doesn't start knocking out 150's pretty soon, we'll have to consider that maybe he's on the decline.

          • Sc_Wow says:

            Was ebbert playing when he scored 160 odd last year? Danger is due, he’s got one last chance to prove he’s a reliable C

  27. The Ranger says:

    Do we think Coffield is a must have?
    None of my cows are fully fattened but his consistency and DPP is pretty appealing.

    • neil demons delight says:

      Hi Ranger I don't think he will make as much as Mirra but J S is as good.Most probably end up a good player playing for another club. I am thinking of going Brayshaw to one of them cheers

      • Swans2012 says:

        I think I'll take coffield if Murphy or dom are out again this week, looks like he will make cash

        • The Ranger says:

          Leaning that way too Swans. Barry prob the one in the sights.
          Liked the look of Coffield in the JLT and he looked good again yesterday, he uses it well and Saints don't have many that can do that so you'd think his JS must be ok.
          Opens up the swing with Finlayson too.
          Of course Barry will prob get a ton if I do it…

    • theRealPod says:

      No one in Saints a must have.

  28. Gibbs says:

    Sick of Hibberd, his role change has killed his scoring. Thinking of Hibberd to Coffield and Brayshaw to Martin! Am I jumping the gun or is this the right move? Only used 2 trades so far

  29. SW Rooster XXX says:

    Just about to quit! I realise the community was right. I had a terrible structure and I have slipped to 31k overall. God help me!

    • SW Rooster XXX says:

      Well played birdbrain……

      All Rook back structure hasn't been the issue at all mate…..

      More so underperforming premos and injuries in other lines eg Billings and Kreuzer going like goats…

      The Rookie backs are performing fine and are actually amongst the highest scoring rookies so have had no issue with their output what so ever….. If anything have exceeded expectation in terms of output……..

      • D C says:

        So what's your point? Everyone has those rookies…..where are you gaining in the field of overall seeing as you saved yourself by going shallow in backline?

        Looks to me as though you've fallen behind even more this week with your excuses about injuries…..

        • SW Rooster XXX says:

          My point is everyone has to have a certain amount of rookies on the ground – as it stands the backline rookies save for Kelly in the mid and Holman in the mid (until this week) have been the better performing rookies score wise so have had no issue them all being on the ground…..

          Essentially due to Greene being injured (missed 2 games), Billings spudding it up apart from Round1 and Kreuzer missing 1 and a half games and going terrible when he has played I haven't got any benefit out of being more premo heavy in the other lines.

          Obvioulsy saving money in the backs enabled greater spending else where eg rucks/forward and under performing premos and injuries in them lines has prevented that benefit coming to fruition…..

          So to answer your question I am not using injuries as excuses at all, everyone gets injuries.. Injuries aside just got the Billings and Kreuzer calls wrong – shit happens… Closer to expected output from them 2 and ranking would look a whole lot different…..

          Happy to have tried something different it's a game!!! Giving the $$ back rooks are making will be able to start upgrading back 6 relatively quickly and pick off some fallen back premos… have no hurry to do anything in the other lines other than hope Billings & Kreuz come good……. Taranto is at F6 and Kelly & Holman (unitl this week) been serviceable at M7 & M8

          Rank will improve steadily I am sure as ranks are still very congested….

    • Swans2012 says:

      Early days rooster, I haven't checked but can't be more than 4-500 points between you and the top 5k. Burn trades if you need to to fix things and ride it for luck at the end of the season

    • Russty_ says:

      You should probably quit, cause it's hard to actually win it when you don't actually exist.

  30. Multi_ says:

    Billings will be talked about all week, with that i will trade him to Robbie Gray 50 times this week then press reverse trades.

    I already know the outcome if we dont trade him he will drop more than 3 of my rookies will increase in profit and averages 60 odd.

    If i do trade him he will come out and average 100 for the rest of the year and Robbie Gray will go down with an ACL injury.

    As a business idea: Supercoach therapy could become a thing

    • Derek says:

      I’m expecting many questions this week regards trading Billings out.

      I expect Saints can’t get any worse, and hopefully improve, especially as season gets going and everyone slows down a bit.

      I’m holding him. Forwards are too hard to work out this year, so hold who you have and look at upgrading the rookies.

      Gray will be popular, but too expensive. Was and will continue to be a round 11 trade target.

      • zerowins says:

        I see what your understanding Derek but isnt your advice to buy premiums at 520k and under

        • Derek says:

          No. I always look to buy premiums cheaper than their starting price.

          Neil said something about $520k, but that was referring to the calculation that everyone has to do in order to get their last few premiums in. When you are down to only needed a few more premiums to be at “full premium” you might not have the cash or the cash generation left to get who you want, therefore you need to look for the cheaper options. Neil just mentioned $520k because if people use all their cash now, that might be all they can afford for the final places.

          I pick my best team from the start as if money no problem and as those boys drop in price I snap them up.

  31. Ken says:

    Why is Michael Barlow playing in the NEAFL? Hes been leading possession getter in both games he has played, would love to get him in the fwd line in SuperCoach…

  32. James says:

    What’s everyone doing with Andrew Brayshaw this week? Don’t think he’ll be hitting his be

  33. BloodyFranklin says:

    The footage of Dylan Roberton is absolutely terrifying.

    I hope he makes a full recovery.

    • SC_Sixty6 says:

      That's what a brain aneurysm does. Lucky he's ok!

      • BloodyFranklin says:

        I don't think it was an aneurysm bro.

        • SC_Sixty6 says:

          Correct otherwise he'd be dead! Was his irregular heart beat.

          But an aneurysm makes people drop like we saw. Just reminded me of it.

          • BloodyFranklin says:

            Not necessarily SC_Sixty, a lot of brain aneurysm cases are non-fatal.

            Scary stuff though! It wouldn't be the first time an athlete suddenly died from cardiovascular issues; only a few weeks ago a Croatian footballer collapsed under similar circumstances and was dead a few minutes later.

            Same thing happens with racehorses, that is predominantly why so many cop a 12 gauge to the head on the way to the Clag factory.

    • BrownlowBoy says:

      Similar thing happened in America the other week in a basketball game, poor guy didn't make it unfortunately. Really scary to watch.

    • Westy says:

      So glad he is getting through it. Work colleague lost a husband like that when they were walking through a shopping centre – mid 30s – gone, dead when he hit the ground.

      (On a lighter note, if there is one, if it had been Matthew Lloyd, community would have been up him staging for a free kick.)

      • Russty_ says:

        Did they only just find out in that game that Roberton had an irregular Heartbeat?…bloody devastating for him and his family, hope he doesn't have to give up Footy.

        • BloodyFranklin says:

          You'd have to assume so man. I wouldn't think they would risk it had he been previously diagnosed with a potentially fatal CVD or anything like that.

          There will be lots of things that need to be taken into consideration from this point forward. The insurance premiums alone could be enough to call it. I wouldn't be surprised if Roberton has to make some drastic decisions regarding his future.

  34. Paul says:

    Disaster weekend, I don't know how I'm going to make any cash with Dow, Brayshaw, Barry and now Holman in the mids, just wish I'd gone Fogarty instead of Dow early on.

    To make matters worse Yeo almost hits his BE and doesn't drop anywhere near enough to bring in for Bonner who has been awful since I traded him in.

    Shambles, got $90k odd in the bank and 28 trades but no cash to generate!

    • Whatyasmokin says:

      That's why corrective rookie trades can be necessary and even downgrading failed premos/mid pricers and building a bank to pick off the guns u need is a valid tactic depending on the situation.

    • Jam says:

      Just wait. The rookies like brayshaw will go up and down, but one good game and they are up again.

  35. John says:

    What do people think about Geary and Kent this year?

  36. Ahmad rubas says:

    Can people see breakeven on the SuperCoach website? Or is that for gold members only

  37. zerowins says:

    I have Petracca and Billings. I understand that billings has been underwhelming but so has Petracca. I cant see Petracca scoring any better than what he has been.
    Therefore would i be better off trading Petracca over Billings

  38. Simo says:

    Brayshaw has a BE of 54, with an avg of 49. Thoughts on who to downgrade to?

    cheers

  39. Dice_real says:

    What the hell is going on with Josh Kennedy SYD, anyone know if he's injured?

  40. Hayden says:

    Downgrade Hibberd to Coffield/Mirra? With Frawley going down, Mirra job security got a bit better. Hibberds Breakeven is 116, so he will drop again. Jump off to Coffield or cheaper again to Mirra?

    • Dice_real says:

      Probably hear throughout the week about Mirra Hayden. Will Frawley miss any weeks?

      • KSinny says:

        dont think so all he had was a migrane

        • Hayden says:

          Hold for one more week until Mirra is on the bubble, and I miss the chance at Coffield. Should I downgrade to him instead? BE of -45, whilst Hibberd will drop another 30k this week. Thoughts?

          • Dice_real says:

            I'm a fan of the early trade in, only if that player has fairly decent JS. Especially when you can only trade 2 per week, you could be just short of coin to get that premium in

    • TRIGGA_HAPPY says:

      Wouldnt go early on mirra just incase.
      We cant control injuries and u should wait till he is on the bubble.
      Look at cyril and poppy. U just dont know.

  41. TRIGGA_HAPPY says:

    Villian Josh Kelly – unexpected out.

    Josh mate. If u are goung to miss could you do us a favour and miss when u play later in the round. Gives us a chance to loop you..<img draggable="false" class="emoji" alt="😎" src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/2.4/svg/1f60e.svg"&gt;

    Appreciate it.

  42. SC_Sixty6 says:

    2205 this week! Moved me into 3k

    Anyone trying to rise up the ranks try not to follow the pack as it will only cement you there with them, basically making captain choice the only differential!

    • DavidSA says:

      Players like Hurn, Mundy and Wallace in fwd line will seperate you.
      Probably need at least 3 players in the 22 who are in less than 7% of team selections.
      Of course the PODs need to score extreamly well also.

      To select Merrett now? Next week? Or not at all?
      Those kinda decisions are a prime example of what can seperate top 1k to the rest

    • Theoriginalforce says:

      With Franklin's form I'm Vc'ing him as often as possible. That 200 will come soon.

    • INPieman says:

      You don't necessarily need to start with POD's. Finding them & how they go throughout the season defines your season

      • TRIGGA_HAPPY says:

        True but a couple off the bat always handy out of the gates.

        • SC_Sixty6 says:

          Agree Happy! Goto start with 2 pods in my book minimum. 4 max. Minimises the loss if you fail but if you succeed in the picks then you go straight ahead…..no catch up through 'smart trading' which is what we all try to do anyway.

          • TRIGGA_HAPPY says:

            Started 2-4 mainly purple pods
            Ryan and walters and crowden on bench.
            Also started bonner not sure if he was a pod though.
            Game of inches.
            If kelly played this weekend scores 120 would be top 1000 field a rookie and drop a 1000 spots.
            Just have to ride the waves.

    • Marty says:

      Have now 4 onfield rookies to not follow the pack and have Mitchell Dusty McCrae Fyfe, Cogs, Jom, Kelly T and Holman with .
      Now to decide whether to put the pedal to the metal and go Brayshaw to a rookie and Holman to Gibbs. Kelly or Jom to Danger in a few more weeks then just Oliver to get.

      What are people's thoughts on Bryce Gibbs?

  43. Sam says:

    Only one trade this week. Bonner to Sicily. Thoughts? Hold Bonner or upgrade him. 440k available

    • Tibor says:

      I'm thinking one more week on Bonner. Has an 80 average and a 58 break even. Another good Sicily score this week but had the yap running early on Sunday then settled when everything went his way. I can't see my way clear to trust him not to throw another flog tantrum but to each their own

  44. John says:

    Great feeling when you trade R Gray in for a nice 145. Wish it happens every week when you trade premium's in

  45. DavidSA says:

    Double upgrade this week
    Bonner and Fisher out
    1) R.Gray and McGovern in 10k left
    Or
    2) R.Gray and Sicily in 50k left

  46. John says:

    Anyone know what the perfect bye structures are going into the byes? Are we meant to have an even amount of outs per round or is it meant to be lopsided towards one round in particular?

  47. SgtMarshallBB says:

    Hey Community,

    I currently have 194k in the bank, and have unfortunately been stuck with bonner and kreuzer, who are stinking it up at this point in time, what are your thoughts on the following moves:
    1. Moving Kreuzer up to Grundy the man mountain
    2. Moving Bonner out of the team for coffield who is on the bubble.

    Let us know what you think!

  48. lukeparkerfanboy1 says:

    Hola amigos!
    Another week gone by and another L for my struggling team. I've just about had it with sauce jacobs and want to move him on… hold or trade?
    Also can upgrade and looking at savage hurley or toby mclean
    Let me you know what you think

  49. deancoxlover says:

    Hey there community!!!!
    I am currently in intense debate on whether to give Hibberd the boot.
    any suggestions and/or possible replacements? – i currently have 70k in the bank
    cheers

  50. Josh says:

    Sitting top 4% at current time, but have had a few stink it up which I'm keen to trade.
    Team is:
    Laird HIbberd McGrath Bonner Doedee Finlayson (Murray, Murphy)
    Titch Dusty Fyfe Sidebottom Cripps Coniglio Kelly Holman (Banfield, Barry, Brayshaw)
    Gawn, Nic Nat (McInerny)
    Heeney Smith Billings Petracca Stephenson Fritsch (Ryan, Giles Langdon)
    Thinking of going Brayshaw and McGrath to Oliver and Mirra. Happy to hold Billings, also holding Liam Ryan until I can use his money with someone else. Thoughts appreciated.

  51. Da Boysh says:

    Hi all,

    I am going pretty well i think top 4%.. need to make a call now though:

    27 trades left

    Petracca > Gray with 70k in the bank
    Nank > Grundy with 47k in the bank

    Really liking my team at the moment and I hate sideways bullsh!t, but I see Nank as consistent but not a top ruckman, I see Petracca as not breaking out this season like I hoped.

  52. theRealPod says:

    The Dees need to scotch guard asap, as soon as it got wet most of them were pathetic. The Hawks ripped into them and showed how soft they are when out of comfort zone. Clarry the exception and Hogan another chance after huge first quarter, I still have him on the watch list for now.

    • Captain Risky says:

      If Hogan can go OK this week against Richmond then he's gone some way to convincing me he is worth having. Still on the fence.

    • Monsanto# says:

      Any team that overturns the coach and the fitness staff regarding the difficulty of their preseason camp – Beware. Demon supporters won’t like my comments. Too bad. I have Gawn and Oliver who look to be execeptions. Fingers crossed.

    • Derek says:

      I was at the game. After half time Melbourne couldn’t run. It was very obvious, when Melb got the ball, the hawks defence got back quicker than Melb forwards. Once the hawks started their short passing, Melb tired very quickly. Last quarter none of them could run

      • Tibor says:

        Melbourne looked a million dollars early then played like millionaires. The tackle count was very telling. Hawthorn just played much better wet weather football.

        Wouldn't be too sure about the run factor long term, it always tends to look like that when you get outplayed around the contest. I don't put any stock in the pre season camp thing. Hawthorn were great from red time in the first quarter.

        More than anything melbourne always do this they get way ahead of themselves based on next to nothing. They've beaten Brisbane and the Roos, Big deal

  53. Steeeve says:

    I'm pretty sold on leaving Coffield out of my side and bringing in Mirra next week.

    HOWEVER Coffield should have good JS after starting his career well and with Roberton out. Worth considering…

  54. DavidSA says:

    5.2% coaches traded in Parfitt 🤣
    All jokes aside BE -1 but the price tag 390k is a huge trap if he shits his pants

    • Derek says:

      They were probably trading out Fisher

    • Crowboy94 says:

      Knew it would happen Haha he had one great game. Wont happen to often

    • Swans2012 says:

      104, 92, 62 and 168 good set of figures for a 390k m/f, not a one game wonder it would seem, not saying I'm doing it but there certainly is worse choices around, a short term ride the wave from an underperforming mid pricer might not be the worst move. At least he'll make $$ the next couple of weeks. I can't lie A little bit of me is considering Whitfield to parfitt, then parfitt to danger in a fortnight. I have had horrible failures with these sort of moves in the past, but also some success…..

    • Whatyasmokin says:

      The burns will be real.

  55. Moosehead says:

    I have been lucky to date. I have six top midfield premiums plus T. Kelly and Holman. Is it too early to add a seventh premium in Coniglio?

  56. Finnius says:

    Looking at the projected prices of my rookies for the rest of the year (guessing close to maximum price – unders, not overs), I came up with some interesting revelations.

    Finlayson, Murray & Doedee – 380k

    Naughton – 275k

    Murphy – 260k

    Kelly – 500k

    Holman – 300k

    Brayshaw – 220k

    Garlett – 280k

    Banfield – 300k

    English – 300k

    Stephenson – 340k

    Fritsch – 280k

    Henry – 260k

    Langdon – 270k

    Mirra – 300k

    Total – 5.1 million

    16 trades

    Needed – 510k (slightly above average fallen premo price) x 8 + 123k (average rookie downgrade price) x 8 = 5.06 million

    Therefore, 16-18 trades are needed to go full premium. You also need 7-8 for injuries.

    Thus, you can allow yourself up to 5 trades in these early rounds as CORRECTIVE trades, to make sure that your side looks how you want it to. Getting rid of players such as Hibberd (46th ranked defender) and Kreuzer (16th ranked ruck), may cost you trades, but the nature of the rookies this year allows us to make these trades without too many worries. If you trade well throughout the year then you should be fine with making these corrections to your side. Further, if you do not do them now, then you won't be able to afford as good trades later because these players will keep leaking cash, and you will want to be using those two trades per week to be cashing in rookies and not worrying about underperforming premiums.

    My trades this week are Hibberd to Mclean via Sicily DPP and Kreuzer to Grundy. I missed out on both these premiums at the start who seem guaranteed to top their positions, and thus I have no qualms about these corrective trades.

    I know we all have our own supercoach rules to abide by – but just some food for thought.

    • INPieman says:

      Nice work Finnius. I think if your willing to be patient with Brayshaw he can kick off off his price. Stepenson & Rayner proved last weekend it only takes 1 good week for them to reward you. The question is how long do you wait

      • Finnius says:

        I am giving him one more – then will trade him, swing finlayson to the mids and bring in mirra. If he kills it then will reconsider, but can't have someone leaking cash on my bench.

    • SC_Sixty6 says:

      Nice work mate. Might need to factor in how many keepers you actually started……smith, Sicily, Walters, McLean, cog were all mid pricers so were in the plan to possibly move on if they failed. So from what I've seen based off my starting team I only need 14 trades to go full premo…..4 corrective trades max before prices had risen and then allowed 8-10 for injuries……so far have had 7 injuries.

      Going off those numbers that's 28 trades. Every team will be different Good write up though.

      • Tibor says:

        If you allowed for 8 to 10 injuries and copped 7 in 4 weeks you'll be looking for a change of luck?

      • Finnius says:

        Agreed. I had sicily, smith, walters etc. but always considered them as keepers. I have already had to use 2 injury trades and a rookie correction, plus these two this week leaves me at 25.

        As you say – each team is different as they may have coniglio, hogan etc. which means that they maybe squeezed in 15 keepers, as well as having different rookies of course.

        Interesting to calculate NOW as to how many we need, so then you aren't stuck with problems at the end of the season and realising you could have fixed them up earlier. Very happy looking at my team atm with these trades – confident I have top 6 in every position, and I think that is what this week (and probably last week) is/was for.

        def: laird, howe, sicily
        mid: danger, titch, dusty, fyfe, clarry
        ruck: grundy, gawn
        fwd: heeney, Mclean, Walters, Smith.

        Looks a lot worse without my recent corrections though.

    • Tibor says:

      How did you arrive at those prices?

    • Steve says:

      How many more weeks will it take for English to arrive at that number? I need cash soon for upgrades.

      • Finnius says:

        I am holding english until after rd 13 as I need him as cover for in the byes – but should be at 300k by rd 8ish, maybe even sooner if he pumps out an 80 odd this week.

    • BVB21 says:

      I think this year we have been blessed with some good rookies so I think aggressive sideways trades are better this year then most others

      • Finnius says:

        agreed completely. Especially in the backline.

      • TRIGGA_HAPPY says:

        Yep 100%
        I made comment on this last week
        Lot more moo this year so easier to go one up one down.
        Only thing that may throw a spanner in the works is having the right rookie downgrades at the right time.
        But with the right moo rookies to start havent hesitated in trading out kruez and billings as early correctives .

      • Whatyasmokin says:

        Its only round 4, we barely know anything about this year 😉

    • Ahmad rubas says:

      Assuming you started 14 keepers how many keepers/premos would you excpect to have come the bye rounds?

    • Derek says:

      I think you will need more than $510k per premium upgrade. I was think about $540-$550k. Then you will need at least 1 decent DPP bench cover, maybe of the Petracca level.

      I like how you are doing the maths and planning ahead.

  57. JohnDJ59 says:

    A weekend to forget, my worst ever, just scored over the 2,000, two trades this week,one up one sideways, Brayshaw > Heeney and Clark > Coffield. Going through a few more trades than I would like, but I reckon I need to grab the bubble boys when they come along and turf out the ones that have stopped generating cash,if they even started that is.Happy with my side at this stage of the season, only bombed out this last round due to my VC&C picks.Will be looking at getting Danger in around round seven going on the projections.

    • Sandyf62 says:

      I scored just under the 2000,two trades this week for me as well, Clark > Coffield & Ryan > McLean,will be trying to stop trading for the next few weeks,since I have gone through seven trades so far, had a few injuries and correction trades, but fairly happy at the moment with where my team is sitting.

      • Russty_ says:

        Hey guys…I like how you both went one up one down, should set your sides in a better place going forward and that's what you want, forget about the bad scores this week, you only need to make the top 8 to win the GF!…:) I got smashed in Leagues last week too, easy to recover from.

        • JohnDJ59 says:

          Well said Russty, after last year and making the top five in all but one league,I decided I would just try and make the finals this year and looking at the competition even that is going to be a challenge, so not putting to much pressure on myself. Not to worried about the last round, I kind of knew I was in for a hard time when I double downgraded, although I expected to win more than one league game, which I would have if I went with my gut feeling about Dusty for VC, but I planned to go with Fyfe and didn't want to deviate from that.

        • Sandyf62 says:

          Hi Russty, had the funds to go one up,it was just deciding between Heeney & McLean, so I could strengthen the fwds, couldn't have two rookies on the field in the fwds any longer.

  58. Chris Rhoney says:

    Got lots of juniors in my team earning big cash but only averaging 2000 a week

    Got just over 400,000 in bank and need to trade out injured Ryan in the forward line any thought, can afford Franklin or heeney top end but wipes out my funds for time being (when trading Ryan)

    Already carrying premiums like dusty, fyfe and Mitchell in mid
    Menegola, d.smith and Sicily and billings are my big earners in forwards

  59. TheBenchmark25 says:

    What do coaches do with players like Barry and Murphy who didn't play this week and again do not get named to played this round?
    Move them on?

  60. r_calve says:

    who do i trade in for Zorko, already got titch, Coniglio, fyfe, neale and merrett

    maybe Sidebottom or ed Curnow looks good

  61. r_calve says:

    is billings to robbie gray a good trade

  62. Tommo says:

    Got Kruez and Billings to deal with, with 26 trades and 51k.
    Unfortunately cant go Kruez straight to Grund, fall 20k short. These would be my ideal trades:
    Kruez – Nic Nat
    Billings – Gray/McLean

    thoughts please guys?

  63. Keenbutclueless says:

    Thinking seriously about going early on either Guelfi or Mirra. I reckon both are must haves. To get them both, then next week would be a double downgrade. Which means no upgrade before round 7. I am ranked 15k. Improved a lot from 30k the prior week, but still need to be aggressive if I am going to bridge the gap. Made the right call (I think) bringing in Gray for Kelly last week. I know Doedee has some cash in him, and maybe Hurley might come down, but I am seriously thinking Doedee to Hurley and Brayshaw to Guelfi or Mirra this week. Will depend on whether I prefer Guelfi or Richards on field. I know it defies conventional wisdom, but when you are chasing the pack, it needs to be aggressive. I have a strong feeling that people will struggle to get Gray in later, so I may have him at his cheapest. I am hoping the same with Hurley.

  64. r_calve says:

    are steele Sidebottom and ed curnow the real deal

    • Tibor says:

      Steele is a gun, has been for a long time. Probably previous years sc scores fail to reflect how good he is but if he is in a bit more of a sc friendly role he may be very worthwhile. Grundy's good form does him no harm

  65. Big G says:

    I am a week too late, but any thoughts on forward rookie to trade L Ryan to.

  66. TOPHAWK1 says:

    Jack Billings to Robbie Gray or Kane Lambert……..If there was ever a contrarian trade choice than this has to be it.

    Every man and his dog has jumped off Lambert over the last couple of weeks and his price has crashed. (now just $426k) That now makes him a serious POD.

    Then, last round he went BANG with a 119. I suspect he might have played more midfield with Dusty spending more time up front. He now has a BE of 59 and has FWD/MID DDP. Gray however, has been on fire this season and his price has increased to $533K. That is is $107K MORE than Lambert.Gray has no DPP.

    As they say, sell high and buy low. Obviously I am offloading Billings at a loss, but I can still buy low to offset this.

    Enter Kane Lambert. If I grab him over Gray it would leave me with $207K in my warchest instead of $100K. That is a serious difference in coin. Then Gray becomes an upgrade target later after his bye.

    It is a massive "going against the grain" and a huge SHARK MOVE trade, but if it comes off could set up my season.

    Can Lambert can come good and remain consistently good for the rest of the season, and is he good enough to be a top 6 forward? That is the gamble. I am seriously looking at it, because you don't make top 1000 in Super Coach by following the crowd.

    Thoughts community?

    • Finnius says:

      I'd want one more week to make sure of Lambert. Can't hurt to much – billings may just go huge and then you don't need to trade. Conversely, Lambert may screw up and you don't want him in. It won't cost you too much money either way and there is a lot more safety in it.

      If you do it this week good luck to you! I wouldn't have the balls.

    • Swans2012 says:

      Sorry hawk I don't feel like lambert is your man, can't really see him being a top 10 forward this year on what he has shown

    • Holty01 says:

      I certainly am not 1 to give advice as i traded out Menegola after 2 rounds.😣
      All i can say is back in ur premiums because as soon as you trade them out you will regret it.

    • Russty_ says:

      Hi Hawk, I reckon bite the bullet and just get Gray, he's looking really good and so are Port even though coming off a loss, Lambert is still a bit of an unknown quantity, meaning super unreliable.
      Gray's only in 8% of teams so you're not following the crowd, he's almost a POD.

    • Sc_Wow says:

      Tbh I’m eying off billings started similar last year before pushing his avg up. He’s def one that I’m looking to buy low. I’d stay away from lambert. Have had gray in my team since rd2 loving it

    • TheBenchmark25 says:

      I'm really enjoying everyone hitting the trade button on billings… just like a few did on menagola. A bit better disposal efficiency and goal conversion and this tons will be pumped out
      I was going to trade but I'm backing the players I have chose
      It's only a shark move if you go through with it 😉 but sometimes big balls doesn't give you the win

      • Russty_ says:

        Problem is though, St-Kilda have the worst forward line in the world, and last week they left 2 of the 3 big 3 forwards out, and McCartin was still crap, Billings has no one to deliver it to, he'll have to kick them all himself.

        • TheBenchmark25 says:

          He only had two inside 50s on the weekend
          It feels like your thinking of excuses to make the trade so you feel a bit better ? Haha either way enjoy the game that is SuperCoach and back yourself in 👍

    • Whatyasmokin says:

      Sorry but when I read

      'Enter Kane Lambert. If I grab him over Gray'

      I'd seen enough.

      Pull yourself together man!

  67. Freddy says:

    Got Kruez, billings and Dow as issues atm. Got 51k in the bank with 26 trades. Which of these trades should I do?
    Dow – Coffield
    Kruez – Nic Nat (can go to Grundy if I do the above trade)
    Billings – gray/McLean (will need to do one of the above trades to get the funds)

    Thoughts would be great pls guys!

    • Finnius says:

      I don't like the dow to coffield trade as I don't think that you get enough money out of it to be worth it. Wait one more week to get Guelfi/mirra using dpp. Maybe even go early on one of them to go Kreuzer to Grundy.

    • BoltonsBlues says:

      Dow will play almost every week
      Blues need to blood these kids, we are getting smacked every week but he will play, good for cover/slow money gain

  68. Mitch says:

    Is lachy o'keefe likely to get a game soon??

  69. Petracconaldo says:

    Is it worth trading Brayshaw down to Coffield?

  70. TommyC99 says:

    Am i stupid to considering holding Kruezer? Mainly because i would need to make 2 trades to bring in Grundy, and i only have 26 trades left. If he somehow turned his form around, could be a real good POD. I could trade to Nic Nat and bank the cash, it would also maintain my bye structure.

    • theRealPod says:

      Yeah Kruz is definitely not 100% but for how long? Maybe wait and see a few more games.

    • Steeeve says:

      Holding premos is never dumb unless they are out injured for the long term. Not to say you won't regret holding him. But holding him will not be a dumb move.

  71. Russty_ says:

    Hey guys, I have returned after 3 days in the Doghouse for being silly and getting sucked into all that troll activity a few nights ago.
    I was trying to get rid of all the flogs, who combined their negative talents into a multiple fake profile flog attack on the site, myself and other regulars,
    I responded with some pretty ugly comments that I'm not proud of, and was promptly ejected into Purgatory for a few days to think about my actions.
    At no time did I ever or will ever, post under a fake name or multiple names, my suspension was due to abusive language towards people who I felt, deserved it at the time.
    I won't get sucked into that again, thanks to Johndj59 for being my friend and mediator, and to Lekdog for being a gentleman, and scholar.
    cheers guys 🙂

    • Lekdog says:

      Hey Russty, glad to have you back.

      Appreciate you in the community and everything you bring to the table.

      • Russty_ says:

        Thanks Lek, appreciate it mate, I shall endeavour to reign in my silly reactions to silly people from here going forward 🙂

        • belly button fluff says:

          Maybe we should have abusers corner. A thread where people can just go at it for the season. Because all the posts to read did stop me from trading and reversing constantly.
          Only joking BTW it's nice to see everyone calm and civil again.
          Good to have you back. Russty. i like reading your comments.

    • DavidSA says:

      I was the dog house 🙂

    • Terry says:

      Damn, i enjoyed those 3 days

    • Swans2012 says:

      Well said Russ, didnt see what went down but can imagine, flogs are everywhere these days even occasionally on here desecrating our sacred SuperCoach turf. Good to see you own and own up to your comments, both the right and wrong

      • Russty_ says:

        Thanks Swans..appreciate it mate, I lost control and unleashed furious anger on some unhinged peeps hellbent on damaging our precious hub, and in the process, damaged it myself…I took the bait and became a flog, from now on, they won't get to me anymore.

    • Holty01 says:

      All good Russty. It took everything in my power to probably not be in the same dog house as you. I had to create my own account to make sure people realized it wasnt me posting the nasty stuff on here.
      Not sure of these peoples motives but lets hope we dont have the same problem anytime soon.

      • Russty_ says:

        Amen to that Holty, it was definitely a co-ordinated attack though…Mr Robot style…quite disturbing.

      • Russty_ says:

        Always better off to have a registered account Holty, a large part of what set me off so much was all the impersonating trolls of regular members.

    • TRIGGA_HAPPY says:

      Rust.
      Just rise above it and just give your opinion on all things footy and SC.
      Thats what I try to do.
      Ignore the negativity and embrace the good guys in the community.
      There r some great people on this site who give some sage like advice.
      Listen but then make your own call.

    • neil demons delight says:

      Great to see you back mate Don't let them sucker you in. I could see they were getting to you but as you can see Russty from the responses people back your views . It's only a game cheers

      • Russty_ says:

        Cheers Neil, yes it's only a game mate, and games are meant to be fun!…it's all fun from here on out, no matter what happens 🙂

    • hedski says:

      I was hoping your sc team got suspended for the week too so I would have had another win…….na just kidding mate, I read that stuff before it was deleted, don't rise to the bait bud.
      I'll seek revenge soon in another league 👍🍺

    • TOPHAWK1 says:

      Good onya Russtyy! You deserve a lot of respect for that post.

      You copped it on the chin and took it like a man. Looking forward to your posts, debates, and undoubtedly some good banter.

      Cheers mate.

      TH

      • Russty_ says:

        Thanks Hawker, I'm happy to be back mate, and to be back with all such good teams in 10 different Leagues is awesome, it's gonna be hard to even make the 8 this year! 🙂

    • Sc_Wow says:

      Good to have you back Russty. Any trades in the works this week?

      • Russty_ says:

        Thanks Wow, was thinking …
        Bonner to Coffield…have lost patience with Bonner, think he's a fail. and..
        Liam Ryan to Mirra, will reverse if Mirra isn't named obviously but he looks ok.
        Leaves me with 278k, swore off anymore Saints but….haha

    • SC_Sixty6 says:

      Russty!!!!!! Glad your back buddy! Apart from my boy Wow you're my next favourite. You bring so much to the community, I was missing your absence. So welcome back again!

      • Russty_ says:

        Thanks 66, was a low point for me but I had time to reflect on my reactions to certain people, good to be back mate and thumbs up to a fun season from here! 🙂

    • Whatyasmokin says:

      Must've been a pretty nuts situation to get you that fired up, I don't think I've ever seen you even be a bit condescending or anything, let alone abuse lol.

      Would be sad if people like you weren't contributing, cheers 😉

      • Russty_ says:

        Thanks Smokin, yeah I got out of hand and unleashed some truly ugly insults, on a group of co-ordinated trolls, also, I had a go at some good people who I thought weren't doing enough to prevent or stop it, and they didn't deserve that, anyways, hopefully we can move on from here, I'm on late a bit so maybe most people don't see what was posted most of the time lol.

    • Crowboy94 says:

      Good to see you back mate! Always appreciate your advice.

    • JohnDJ59 says:

      Hey Russty I'm a bit late to the party, but welcome back mate, it was a good thing that I decided to go to the 'Rat Pack' comments and saw your post, I usually just click on the 'Jolly Roger' one since that's a bit like here, a lot of chatter about our teams, trades and SC in general.It all worked out in the end, good thing I have a twitter account, so I could contact Lekdog, who was very good about it all.

    • Slurper says:

      That’s why your slurping lost ya credibility pal

    • Derek says:

      Cheers Russty,
      Use that big beautiful brain of your for good and not evil.
      I’m only here to talk about FOOTY.

    • Sandyf62 says:

      Hey Russty good to see you are back, with the help of JohnDJ59 by the look of it, you will have to learn to curb your anger so it doesn't happen again, you are too valuable to this site to lose you again.Just help the people who are asking genuine questions and ignore the stirrers.

  72. Sammy_14 says:

    Thoughts on Taranto? he is still relatively cheap, but could he finish near the 6 forwards? I feel as tho right a lot of the top forwards like darling and hogan will drop off.

    • DavidSA says:

      Gray, Franklin, Heeney, McLean, Mundy, Kennedy(Eagles), top tier
      Westhoff, Petracca, Taranto, Greene, Hogan, Walters, Wallace, Darling middle tier

      Don't trust any Saints and Sicily only relevant in defence

      Just my take, might have forgotten a couple candidates

      • TRIGGA_HAPPY says:

        Pretty good list DSA.
        Probably put Smith in there as well.
        Fwd line top and middle tier not much between them in that not as big of gap as say top and middle tier mids as key fwds reliant on goals to score.

      • Sc_Wow says:

        Billings started slow last year too, keen to see if he picks it up again. Knows how to get the footy

        • Baggy Pants says:

          I not sure the Saints are the team they were last year I think they're going to struggle up forward.
          And Billings cant do it all. You will be able to pick him up for under 400k soon the next 3 weeks for the Saints very tough.

    • David C says:

      dpp makes him a good M9 F7 swing in your final team.

  73. Adam says:

    Rightio gotta turf armitage
    So do I go
    1. Armitage to anyone upto 450k
    2. Downgrade a rookie and upgrade armo to prem
    3. Or hold

    • DavidSA says:

      could go Armo to Petracca and then later swing Petracca to fwd line
      Or do paint the fence for Coniglio who is still cheap enough at 529k

    • Tyruddanaut says:

      If you have any top 10 rookies except for Naughton or Coffield, number 2. Don't force yourself to go too early on rookies.
      There are very few players under 450k which are exciting. Sicily, Geary and Lobb are the standouts, and they don't really stand out.
      But you also shouldn't hold him. He won't score as good as your midfield rookies and won't plump up in price.

      Downgrade and wait for an extra rookie to plump up to upgrade.

    • Multi_ says:

      Just for a little info Arma was best on ground in the VFL on the weekend I reckon he might be back this week

      • Duckky says:

        At Essendon, we have a number of VFL superstars who cannot cut the mustard at AFL… Jerrett anyone?

        I cut my losses with Armo, too expensive to leave on the bench. Too unreliable on the ground.

      • adam says:

        That’s good to hear but he just ain’t pumping those big scores, so he’s gunna go, I’ll downgrade Brayshaw to who tho ?

  74. Pranav Santhosh says:

    anyone know which players that started at 102.4k have played games this season? i know of murphy and mirra but has there been anyone else?

  75. Bottom says:

    Any tips? Stuck on what to do this week…

    Laird, Hibberd, Bonner, Finlayson, Murray, Doedee (Naughton, Richards)

    Danger, Mitchell, Dusty, J Kelly, Fyfe, Parker, T Kelly, Banfield (Holman, Garlett, Barry)

    Gawn, Nank (Lavander)

    Heeney, Walters, Billings, Smith, Fritsch, Henry (Venables, ZGL)

  76. Tyruddanaut says:

    Hibberd's role change is terrifying!
    I am so so so so so so so so so so so tempted to trade him out, but that will leave me with only 24 trades.

    Through my plan, I will only have 4 trades through the next 5-7 rounds. These are most likely Bonner, Naughton, Garlett and Henry but there is also Fritsch.

    I'm wondering whether it's better to trade in Guelfi or Coffield – Coffield is the safe option but Guelfi has the highest reward.

    Thoughts?

    • Marty says:

      Tough choice. Coffield looks a solid 60+ performer but his higher price makes him less attractive. Mirra and Guelfi looked great but their JS not as good. Depends whether you can afford to take the risk. I'd rather have the JS and swing with Finlayson.

  77. gator59 says:

    Keeping Kruze this week and hoping for a miracle… Trading 2 rooks for Cogs and another cash cow

  78. Sam_01 says:

    Hey community currently sitting 7500 top end is packed my mate is 5k ranks above with only 100 points more!
    I’m assuming we are advising to hold hibberd? Will his role switch back who knows? Could be worth a trade he is bleeding cash
    Look at getting rid of bonner probably next week should I bring in R gray via dpp or go for yeo? Or even trade hibbo and bring one in this week and the other the next?
    Thanks community!

  79. Red5 says:

    Was Kreuz more injured on the weekend?

  80. SC_Sixty6 says:

    I hope for the Kelly owners sake that I'm wrong about his OP and his second week that he's likely to miss. Nothin worse than a mid premo missing 2 games with his diagnosis not common knowledge. Keeping it under wraps.

    • paul says:

      Out for Macrae this week .

    • TRIGGA_HAPPY says:

      Appreciate the heads up.
      Will watch with interest this week
      Groins are always a worry as those type of injuries tend to linger

    • Keenbutclueless says:

      To be honest, your advice was a big factor in my decision to trade him out. I brought in Gray, so extremely happy in week one. If it continues to go well, I will definitely have you to thank. I feel like it has turned around an otherwise sh$$ season
      We are all responsible for our own decisions here. What we listen to on this site and what we ignore is all up to the individual. So no whacks if it goes pear-shaped.

    • Derek says:

      I don’t mind him missing one or even two games, as long as the rest gets him right and fit again.

    • Slurper says:

      Not under wraps is the fact that you and your boyfriend are absolute tossers and the vast majority of the Jock Community hate your guts pity Rusty didn’t have mall balls to call you out you peasants.

  81. paul says:

    love it you guys who started with the danger man break even still 209.Yes he will improve but he will now probably drop to below 650. When i bring him in just love it.

    • Holty01 says:

      I dont have him either but its not easy bringing in a $650k player. You will either have to sideways trade or use a lot of trades. Dont get me wrong, im excited he will be cheap but not excited of what i might have to do to bring him in.

      • paul says:

        Saved 350 plus i think he may drop to around 630.

      • Tibor says:

        One more week from Bonner then get Mirra on the bubble. Have a look at current price on JOM and his break even also in negative territory. Danger has 209 break even.

        It isn't done till it's done but this is a strong chance next week. Might need a little from the bank was keeping in the get Danger fund but maybe not

        • paul says:

          Yes it's a bit like will I get danger in with my danger fund now or use the cash to improve other areas.I think we should wait another week or two as Russty says it's a long season.

    • Russty_ says:

      Could've easily gone the other way too paul, you could've been 500 points behind everyone else who started Danger.
      Who would you be trading out to get him in btw?

      • Davo says:

        Parts of this game is pure luck, could not have been 100% sure which way Dangerfield would start this season.

      • Tibor says:

        These things always just go one way or the other. Perfectly reasonable to say I'm not paying 750 for a bloke missing round 1 with a hammy. Some just had to have him and fair enough but it really just shows there are different ways to play the game and still do ok

        • Russty_ says:

          True dat Tibor, I started with 2300 and 2400 starting with Danger, I just preferred not to have to get him in later, he's been disappointing for sure, but will come good. 🙂

          • Tibor says:

            Chances are you simply must have him at some point but it's a risk either way. Hammy could have gone bang but he might have gone berserk and been impossible to get later. Looking good now for next week but anything could happen this week to twist it all around again

      • paul says:

        Yes Rusty Rusty but it did not turn out that way.

    • TRIGGA_HAPPY says:

      Bit of horses for courses i guess.
      If you didnt start danger would have given you the cash to beef up a premo on another line.
      Kruez or Hibberd or Billings for example.

      These 3 are being bandied around as top trade out targets this week …..

  82. JAL says:

    What do I do with Zorko and what is wrong with the man?? Time to give him the flick or hold?

  83. Josh says:

    Sitting top 4% at current time, but have had a few stink it up which I'm keen to trade.
    Team is:
    Laird HIbberd McGrath Bonner Doedee Finlayson (Murray, Murphy)
    Titch Dusty Fyfe Sidebottom Cripps Coniglio Kelly Holman (Banfield, Barry, Brayshaw)
    Gawn, Nic Nat (McInerny)
    Heeney Smith Billings Petracca Stephenson Fritsch (Ryan, Giles Langdon)
    Thinking of going Brayshaw and McGrath to Oliver and Mirra. Happy to hold Billings, also holding Liam Ryan until I can use his money with someone else. Thoughts appreciated.

    • Derek says:

      I have a feeling we won’t see Fritsch name on Thursday team sheet. Heads will roll after last week and he didn’t look good enough.

  84. AuroraBorealis?! says:

    Is it worth trading Barry to Coffield? Im tempted but it would leave me with only 26 trades and 32k in the bank. Have a feeling i might hold off on this one.

  85. Whatyasmokin says:

    Happens every year at this time. people get too quick on the trade trigger finger.

    Just take a deep breath, look at BE's are they attainable? If not will the player bleed much?

    Simple stuff, supercoach 101, prevents huge regrets.

  86. JJames says:

    Matt Guefli, Can any Bombers supporters give me an insight on who he is and and how his game was

  87. fcabel says:

    Although not cheap I am thinking upgrading to buddy may be a good move this week or next. Thoughts?

    • JJames says:

      For me, Buddy from the start was a must have and so far it looks like even his "bad games" are in the 80-90 point region, love Buddy as a footballer and as a supercoach player, VC for this Friday night backing him in for a big one.
      But then it also depends on who you are trading, if its billings, I and I would recommend this to everyone, HOLD BILLINGS

      • fcabel says:

        Cheers JJ. Id be upgrading Zak Fisher. Regret not starting Bud. Thought he would drop in price and be a first upgrade. His scoring has been great in tough games. Thinking hes about to go huge for a few months.

        • JJames says:

          No worries, almost definite top 6 Foward and to me it looks like a solid trade, good luck anyway mate, for your and my sake, lets hope buddy goes bang this week

  88. SC_Donkey says:

    I hardly ask in here, just can't decide of who to get,

    Bonner to Guelfi
    Cox to one of the following

    Hurley he's dropped in price by 30K has been consistent in the last 4 games
    Sinclair has gone under the radar averaging 110 still at under $500K
    Or Gray looks to be in ripping form, price has increased. Might have to put him in my upgrade option just before the byes.

    Thanks in advance.

    • Russty_ says:

      Hi Donk, you might have to wait on Guelfi to see if he can keep his spot, Sinclair might've turned a corner and could be a legitimate top ruck pick this year, he seems to have risen to the task.
      I think Cox has to go regardless unfortunately but he just hasn't worked out.
      You need 2 solid rucks in there, maybe even Nicnat?

      • paul says:

        Nicnat 92 TOG 56 mins each game still ? . May take off second half of the season. I must say tho i was very impressed with Grundy's work as I am a pieman too.Love the way he covers the ground like a midfielder racking up 20 plus each game.I feel he will maintain this all year if he keeps fit.

    • SC_Sixty6 says:

      I personally wouldn't get Gray now, I'd wait after rd 10 bye. Purely because I had him after his suspension with the idea in my mind that if he were to bang out hundreds which he has done it's a great pickup even when you have to cover for him in rd 10. Picking him up now you get 5 rounds with him and in that time upgrade enough to cover him……if anyone were to look at gray which alot are

      Also with the essendon rookie and mirra I will go early on one of them to get cash ready to upgrade for next few weeks.

      • SC_Donkey says:

        Will probably hold off on Gray, will be nice to have him in just before the main byes. It's what I'm doing this week to go early on either Guelfi or Mirra. Giving Taylor one more week, if he doesn't turn it around this week hope to move him on to whoever I don't get this round out of Hurley or Sinclair, Billings is in my watch list in two weeks or so.

  89. fcabel says:

    Gray for mine.

  90. LUKE says:

    I'm trading in Parfitt stuff it

  91. LUKE says:

    He's looked good. Really good in fact

  92. Oliver says:

    I'm looking at options for upgrading Venables now that he looks like he will be out for a while. I'm leaning towards Mundy, but also interested in Greene, though I'm not sure I trust Greene not to get suspended. I currently have $362,900 in the bank, but have burned a few trades up forward, mainly prematurely getting rid of Menegola and Lambert. Rest of the forward line is Heeney, Gray, Mclean, Fritsch, Garlett, Henry and Giles-Langdon.

    • JohnDJ59 says:

      Hi Oliver,looking at your fwds you really do need a upgrade, so you only have two rookies on field, I like Greene & Buddy at the moment, plus both should end up in the top eight fwds for the year.

    • Whatyasmokin says:

      Buddy. Cant trust Greene. Mundy's output when big sandi is out will be affected. Note the word 'when' was used instead of 'if'

  93. adam says:

    Ok guys time to move armo but need cash so who shal I downgrade Brayshaw too, ? Take a punt on a 1 gamer ?

    • r_calve says:

      iff you have garrlett in the forward line, you should downgrade brayshaw to guelfi and move garlett to mid or if you have coffeild in the midfeild you can do the same with david mirra

  94. Derek says:

    I didn’t see the cats game on the weekend, why did Danger only score 100, he seemed on track for a lot more.

    Was it because the game was already won?

    I had Sam Mitchell in my team a few seasons back and he did that over and over. Get to 90 by 3/4 time, but instead of finishing strong and scoring 130+ he would take it easy or sit on the bench because the game was already safe.

    • Big G says:

      An interesting thing I noted is that during the game when Ablett was injured, he was sitting on 100 at 3/4 time and then went backwards to 92 for simply sitting in the change rooms. There might be somesort of scalling system in the last quarter going on with Champion Data that we do not know about.

      • Derek says:

        it has to do with the max 3300 points.

        Heeney gets the kick that sets up the last goal. he jumped from 90 to 120. Mills who made the final clearing kick jumped from 59 to 84. Those points have to be taken from someone else. Parker went from 102 to 94 just becase he didn't do anything in the last min of the game.

        • Tibor says:

          I didn't see the game did he rest in the last quarter. Are they managing him. Is that hammy 100% or is it a bit risky once they have to use him to fight a game right out.

          • Derek says:

            i looked at the cats draw and saw they have Port (away), Swans and GWS.

            After that they had Collingwood, Essendon, carlton, Suns, & North. few easy ones there.

            I thought that getting danger in after the 3 hard games and before the run of easy games was the obvious thing to do.

            however, as 66 pointed out, he seems to play better against the harder team as if he has to.

            this might have been the case against Saints. game was won, rest time.

    • fcabel says:

      A couple of things noticed. He butchered the ball more than usual. Once the game was won they pushed him forward more. Stats were good. Don't think there is anything to worry about. Next week more likely a game for him to shine.

  95. r_calve says:

    should i trade billings

  96. Rabbits16 says:

    trading danger a silly thought to entertain!? i would do it but using trades would burn me

    • Sandyf62 says:

      Yes it is a silly thought,you either started with him or you didn't,the ones who started with him have to keep him,you knew he would drop in value, the ones who didn't, have the choice to ether get him in a few weeks time when his price has hit the bottom or not get him in at all going on his form.By the way, I started with him to save a trade, which is good since I have used too many already due to, two injury trades ,three corrective trades,one upgrade and one downgrade, so seven in all, two more than I was hoping at this stage.

  97. dontblushbaby says:

    Just looking at this weeks draw and the C loophole looks very thin with week, especially with West Coast playing early in the round.

    The ones who nail the C might pick up some valuable points against the our opposition

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