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Last year wasn’t a great one for me in SuperCoach. I shot into top 3k by round 4 but by round 6 I had lost my way, dropping consecutive 1,800 clunkers and I never recovered. My rank ballooning out to 35,000 when the byes hit. I salvaged a small amount of pride by clawing my way back to finish to year around the 22k mark. Not great. Ultimately I lost a head-to-head league game against Patch and that still keeps me awake at night.

Reading back my team reveal from last year, I was too safe. I was fiercely opposed to those who predicted a Heath Shaw drop-off. I picked Jack Gunston at F2 for crying out loud and got sucked into the deep, dark void that was Josh Caddy. The great thing about SuperCoach though is that no two years are ever the same. This year I decided to free myself up a bit, put a bit more weight into the JLT when it came to making decisions on those mid tier players.

So without further ado this is where Clench and Pray FC sits this Sunday evening, 4 days out from the opening of round 1.



Cast your mind back to a time when paying over 500k for a defender was considered the absolute worst thing you could do in SuperCoach ever! I’m seeing a similar pattern this year so I’ve taken just one. Hibberd over Laird purely because Laird shares his bye with 40 million other premiums. Before you jump down my throat in the comments this doesn’t mean I won’t get Laird at some point, just I don’t think he can hurt me by not having him in the same way not having Docherty did.

Luke Ryan is my first JLT pick. He had 33 kicks and only 3 handballs in his two JLT games, even more promising is that came at a disposal efficiency of 90%. Sicily is a deadset flog but also priced way unders. With Birchall now out longer than expected and Hodgey gone to catch some rays up north, he’s become the general of that backline.

Nothing exciting about D4-6. Mihocek should get his chance with The Sack busting his knee. There were big wraps on Stoddart from Longmuir, I’ve got the cash to turn him into Naughton if he’s not in the team round 1.


I wrote about the big 3 last month. Despite Dusty being the object of my dreams I just couldn’t fit him in. Danger, Mitchell, and Fyfe have been locked in my side since day dot. Danger missing round 1 doesn’t concern me at all. He outscored the next best SuperCoach player last year (Dusty) by 240 points despite playing one less game. He has no history of hamstring injuries, so the “needing confidence in his body” argument doesn’t hold much weight either. He plays Hawthorn in round 2 and has four scores above 140 in his past 6 against them. Hello POD captain!

I thought the absence of Mumford would have seen Josh Kelly hit the wall. Oh boy was I wrong! The kid is a jet and will win the Brownlow when Dusty retires. Clayton Oliver is at the feet of the best ruck in the competition and I feel Melbourne are on the up this year. I liked what I saw from Libba over the preseason. Averaging 12 contested possessions, 6.5 clearances and 4.5 tackles a game the signs are there for him to return to his best. He also benefits from not being affected by Beveridge rotating half his squad between midfield and forward due to being 5 foot nothing in heels.

I’m pretty set on my 5 mid rookies, especially Brayshaw. The way he’s slotted into Fremantle’s midfield rotation reminds Richmond life member and premiership player, Jack Graham.


If you’re one of 40% of teams without Max Gawn please, please, please get him in. Nank impressed the pants off me last weekend against North. Granted a vast majority of Richmond games end with me having my pants off, but his around the ground work, willingness to provide a target and how he drifted forward gave me special tingles. A possible ruck tandem with Soldo doesn’t put me off for the above reasons as Nank doesn’t rely on hitouts to advantage for points. I’ve decided to go a playing ruck in Darcy Cameron at R3 (assuming that he plays). My forward line set up sheds a bit more light on this.


I’ll start with my F6-8. You don’t need me to tell you forward rookies are very thin this year. Fritsch was the only one that put up his hand in the JLT, however, he’s still a small forward. They are notorious in SuperCoach for being unreliable scorers. I’ll emergency loophole him with Ryan. After watching him in the preseason he’s a confidence player. A few early goals under his belt and he could end up with a decent score. With only one on-field rookie, Narrier becomes the emergency and captains loophole. North play a lot on Sunday so I’ll be able to get away with this most weeks. The only other forward rookies I see are Langdon, Rioli, Venables, and Garlett. Head-to-head with Cameron I see Cameron as the better rookie pick here, hence my decision not to go with the traditional R3 captain loophole.

Back to F1, Billings has a few credits with me as I picked him late last year and he was awesome. Walters only had to prove to me he’d keep his midfield role that he excelled in late last year and he’s done that. There were some concerns on Twitter about Devon’s JLT2, 5 frees against kept his score to 83. Find the “why”, Community. Don’t just look at the SC score.

Petracca looks like a breakout, walks like out a breakout and quacks like a breakout. Could be a massive JLT burn man and I’ll guess we’ll find out if I rage trade him by round 5. He’s a risk and I own that. Was at the coalface more during the JLT and like with Oliver, the Dees look to be in a good spot this year.

Damo got fairly chewed out the other day by introducing Taberner at F5. He’s a devout Freo man and was pretty much on the money when he did a writeup on Hayden Crozier earlier in the preseason. Although I have those key position nerves, I’m inclined to agree he’s a bargain. He’s similar in a lot of ways to Tom Lynch at GC. He has a very good set of hands and is the focal point in attack. The difference being Freo midfielders are far more capable than the motley crew up north in finding the big man. 19 marks (8 contested) and 5 goals straight across his two JLT games. He’s running hot right now and hopefully he can take that form into the season.

So that’s it, Community. Reckon this team will be one I run with. What you think?

Twitter: SC_Kev7





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  1. Sloane says:

    Great team like it alot. Love the Ryan pick, will be a jet. Also like the F8 loophole. I have the same idea as fwd rooks are dismal….at this stage.

  2. old mate says:

    how can you possibly give advice when you finished 22k last year??

    • CrackersFC says:

      Come on old mate. Anyone can give advice it’s up to you whether you take. I for one finished top 250 last year and picked a couple of things in the team revea that made sends to me. Not sure I’ll change anything yet but worth considering.

    • Eric_the_Red says:

      It's mainly a discussion starter. Take the 'advice' if you want it. I personally just like seeing the team reveals and then reading their justifications. It's all meant to be fun anyway. Good luck this year though Old Mate!

    • Logan Druit says:

      Be quiet it is a fantastic team.

  3. John says:

    Nice team Kev love the Ryan pick and going against the norm not picking Laird or Dusty plus going Libba over Coniglio.

    Best of luck Kev

  4. Jamesdnkly says:

    I have couple of questions I’d love to be answered

    Merret or zorko?
    Stef Martin or kreuzer?
    Howe or Hurley?
    Josh Kelly or Sloane?
    Also who to start on field if both O’shea and Doedee are named?

    • DacZawson says:


    • Tyruddanaut says:


    • Canny says:

      Hey mate,
      I'm a big fan of consistency so I would opt for Merrett over Zorko, although I think that one's pretty much a coin flip – can't do a lot wrong with either.
      Kreuzer may average a touch higher than Martin however is that worth paying the higher price for him at the start of the year? I'm actually leaning towards no.
      Hurley over Howe for me. Again, just a consistency thing.
      Kelly over Sloane, just. Kelly is special (and again, super consistent), although a packed midfield at GWS without a decent ruckman worries me a tad, come to think of it.
      If both O'shea and Doedee are named start with Doedee. He plays a pretty SC-friendly role rebounding and intercepting back there and O'shea's highest SC average was 74 back in 2013 and 2014.
      Good luck with the final week of preseason!

    • Jack says:

      I'd go same as DacZawson only O'Shea (if named) ahead of Doedee. Just read Cannys comments O'Shea has averaged 74 twice before which is awesome for a rookie back (not sure what he is expecting Doedee to average)

    • Logan says:


  5. neil Demons Delight says:

    Tossing up with Nank or Kruze myself 8 Prems and 8 mid pricers seems out of wack to get to full — a lot of trades needed At the byes you will have used a lot Sorry Kev just not my structure but I thought Warne was a little fat incapable spinner when bowling with Jackson and Mc intyre at the junction I was a bit wrong could be now

    • SC_Kev7 says:

      I see where you're coming from here, NDD. If you take last year as an example. Heath Shaw was priced as a keeper – he wasn't. Clayton Oliver was priced as a stepping stone mid – he wasn't. A solid starting squads gives you a good leg up, sure. But it's trading where the game in won and lost

      I'm not a fan of the term "keepers", I prefer a "plan to trade" outlook. I assume you see the midpricers as Ryan, Sicily, Libba, Nank, Walters, Devon, Petracca, Taberner. Of those, I plan to move on Nank and Tab. Possibly Trac if he doesn't hit the heights that I hope he can

      • neil Demons Delight says:

        Point taken KEV Of those 8 only Nank could be a keeper IMO. therefore the other 7 are effectively cash cows but you are right any of the 7 can break out only a matter of opinion I personally like a 10 -4 -8 setup look forward to playing you in MAGNIFICENT 7 Cheers

  6. The Coach says:

    Not one, not two, but six freo players on field. I don't like that, don't like that at all…

    • SC_Kev7 says:

      Banfield, Brayshaw, Tab will all be gone by the byes. I like Freo this year, but yes if they tank it’ll spell trouble!

  7. dom says:

    The forward rookie loophole looks the goods. 250k extra banked and 2 cracks at a rookie score vs a mid pricer in F8… although it might cost you an extra trade or 2 in the long run. It's a great "pod structure", I like it.

  8. Willymack1234 says:

    Is Brodie, brayshaw and kelly on field in the midfield too much?

  9. INPieman says:

    Looking through Tabbeners historical number this seams like a Hail Mary to me. I suppose we are not flush with cheaper options up front. Like the logic on the minimum spend down back. And Luke Ryan is a man who could really step up his scoring & relevance. And he's not unreasonably priced for his potential. I'm not convinced 1 additional preseason can give Nank a 22 game tank. But I think he can get off to a flyer like last year. Good luck Kev

    • SC_Kev7 says:

      Yeah agree, Pie. No way he lasts 22 games. Was Kruze for a long time but his price just puts me off, especially when he tweaked his ankle. Will probably become Ryder in R11

      Really reckon Taberner could have a mini break out. Not interested in two on field rookies. Bundy was a disappointment. Bell too pricy. He’s running hot and he either flops or makes 100-120k. I’d be happy to jump off at 450k

      • INPieman says:

        Don't mind the plan with Nanky to pump & dump for Ryder. I've looked at a few players to do that with. Sandi was the plan until Ross said he was going to play Sandi & Sean Darcy. Bundy had a disappointing JLT. But he does have a history of being able to score

    • Russty_ says:

      Taberner is a solid, 'avoid' for me Pieman, Nank I'll start with cause I consider him a midpricer, possible keeper, also starting with Ryan cause he could be the Doch of this year I feel/ hope lol.

  10. Captain Risky says:

    First Norf player I've seen in a team. Suitably positioned as well.

  11. Jason says:

    Great Team Kev which is sure to make a mends for last year lots of POD action LOVE IT!!!. One question community Is it ok to pick Cam Rayner in the forword line because of his job security and will get games over rookies who wont play games and just sit on the bench like a dead weight. Thanks. Does anyone know how good his JS is to?

    • SC_Kev7 says:

      Fingers crossed, Jason!

      It's his price that puts me off. Reckon his JS is fine, BL will play the kids, but I'm more worried about Brisbane getting spanked week-in, week-out. Those questions over his tank when he got drafted are still there for mine.

      He'll make you cash but it'll be a slow burn, similar to McCluggage last year.

  12. Paul says:

    Good luck

  13. Nic'sNats says:

    Hey all, just found this great community. Sweet team Kev, love it! A couple of questions… MCrouch or Oliver? and Petracca or Smith? Wouldn't mind downgrading one of the latter so I can fall into the Taberner trap. Also, what is the red line underneath a player in the SC app? Danger and Giles Langdon have them, injury?

  14. Nick says:

    My Team – $72K left in the bank

    Back – Laird, Savage, L Ryan, Weitering, Doedee, Murray (Stoddart, Mihocek)

    Mid – T Mitchell, J Kelly, Oliver, M Crouch, Fyfe, Libba, Banfield, Holman (Finlayson, T Kelly, Barry)

    Ruck – Gawn, Nank (Cameron)

    Forward – Walters, Petracca, Caddy, Sicily, Taberner, Fritsch (Keefe, Ryan)

    • Willymack1234 says:

      Caddy And Tab in the same fwd line is a big risk

      • Nick says:

        Risk it to get the biscuit haha!

        Tab is my risk (although he does look big strong and is going to spend time in the middle as back up ruck so cant hurt his scoring potential), i feel Caddy now has a real place and understanding with how the Tigers roll, so to me his scoring will be quite improved over this season, in saying that easy swap to D.Smith if necesarry between now and Thursday

      • Way Too Good! says:

        Wheres your team willymack? You got no risk at all? just another cookie cutter team making up the numbers!

  15. ILove PatrickCripps says:

    Thoughts on starting Issac Heeney or Michael Walters

    • Connor says:

      IMO I think you have to decide who will average more to the byes (cause you will probably be trading a premo in by then) – if Heeney then you have to weigh up whether he warrants paying $50-60k extra compared to Walters.
      I'd go Walters but i've been set on him since RD 17 last year so…

    • INPieman says:

      I'm concerned about Heeney's preseason. JLT showed he's rusty

      • TRIGGA_HAPPY says:

        Sure he will be right pie it was JLT.

        he did have glandular last year but first 3 games back. Bang, smash, walloper.

  16. BrownlowBoy says:

    Thoughts on Sandilands?

    • Nic'sNats says:

      About to turn 36 and has only played 15 games the last two seasons. If you're not looping R3 and have Cameron… could be a goer.

    • INPieman says:

      Ross is going to play Sandi & Darcy. He likes Sandi as a forward. Go read his ask the coach thing. I was doing research on Luke Ryan's preseason & stumbled on that

      • BrownlowBoy says:

        Bugger, just looked at his last JLT game, big score with not a lot of TOG.

        • INPieman says:

          Sandilands, what do you expect of him?
          I expect him to dominate and be All-Australian (laughs).
          And Sean Darcy? Because you look like you are going for a one ruckman, one forward-ruckman structure.
          That is only because we have been forced all summer. Darcy we didn’t see post-Christmas until two weeks ago because he blew a calf. We couldn’t get a two-ruckman structure through to see how it looked because Sean wasn’t there. But we will have a look at it (two ruckmen), we are going to do it. Aaron is a real threat forward and so is Sean. You have got to figure out what works for you. It is a long season. Aaron doesn’t want to hear that but we might alternate and keep Aaron fresh. Aaron is a worker. One of the greatest people I have met in footy and a very special person. He just wants to play and work and he is such a threat still.

          Tread carefully BB

          • BrownlowBoy says:

            Yeah no chance I'm running a bloke who is sharing the ruck. It's Kreuzer, Ryder or Nank now to back up Gawn.

  17. POD Fiction! says:

    Hey Kev, nice team and niceidea ith the F8 loophole. Instead of the north player as loop you may want to go Jiath from hawks, they have a better run for you to have full effect of the loophole.

  18. Patch says:

    "Ultimately I lost a head-to-head league game against Patch and that still keeps me awake at night."

    That truly was the darkest timeline. On the bright side your team is looking very, very good this year. Like that a lot mate.

    • TRIGGA_HAPPY says:

      A new dawn is upon us patch.
      We can all reset and banish the demons from the past.

      Welcome back to the happy place.

      League code: 123493.

  19. John says:

    THOUGHTS PLEASE. Enjoy negative feedback if you see something wrong.

    Def-Yeo .laird . Hibberd . Naughton. Doedee. Murray—finlayson. Murphy

    Mid- dusty. Mitchell . Kelly. Crouch. Fyfe. Cripps. Drayshaw. Barry — . Holman.kelly. Banfield .

    Ruc -Gawn , Ryder— Cameron

    Fwd – heeney. Billing’s. Patracca. Fogarty. ahern. fritsch— Ryan. Rioli

    • Way Too Good! says:

      Another cookie cutter team! Hey John you see the big red button with "clear team"? yeah hit that and close the app! Be original if your gonna play ffs,

      • John says:

        Mid pricers have failed me every time in the last three years so I’m giving a season a go where I try as minimal risks as possible.

      • THE SALTSHAKERS says:

        No you play to win cockeyes….lol

      • Tony says:

        Nothing wrong with a cookie cutter team at the start-what's the point of having a POD that scores less. Ultimately what it will be is how you manage your team during the season that will detirmine how well you score!!!

    • Wow says:

      I’m glad you enjoy negative feedback John, because there isn’t much that’s positive about this team. I wouldn’t pay 560k for a bloke that’s avg over 100 once, even if you paid me. Cameron will be lucky to score you 20 points when Ryder has his bye, so have fun with that.
      Running 3 rookies (2 of which won’t play) in your forward line is asking for trouble. I’m guessing you like the taste of doughnuts.
      Mitchell and Fyfe look like solid picks

    • SC_Kev7 says:

      On paper your def, mid, ruck lines are very strong, but not realistic as they create problems up forward

      Fogarty’s JS isn’t great, and Ahern didn’t get a run in the preseason despite being fit.

    • neil Demons Delight says:

      guns and rooks team with only PETRACCA as a midpricer and I bet you go well however check your byes Ryder to Nank is far better but still great


      Looks good John,

      Not sure about your fwd line or not starting Danger?

      Smith moved to Ess to play more mid, his JLTs this was evident. JLT 1 he was the stand out when Zerrett went off and Heppell missed 2nd half. Still scored well JLT 83 with 5 frees. Walters ready to swagger in mid.

      Yeah your fwd line rookies are risky could have a donut r2

      Really its just shifting your $$ around the lines anyway so dont peel out too much.

      Talk is Ryders China trip bye no good, many are starting another ruck then upgrading to them. Another option is Cox in ya fwd then swing through DPP to cover…should play every game will do more tap work, looks to be improving every year….has confidence behind him as seen in JLT will have some mares but should go up 15 to 20ppg

    • redherringfc says:

      I’d ditch Yeo, pretty sure he won’t replicate last years scores and if he does, jump on board when you’re convinced.

      Bringing in Sicily or Ryan will free up some cash to work on your forward line. You could put Ryan in the back and Sicily in as a forward. If you need extra cash to bring both in, Dusty or Mitchell to Oliver or Merrett.

  20. BadgerHoney7 says:

    Money in bank: 1,300

    DEF: Laird, Hibberd, Sicily (FWD), O'Shea/Naughton, Doedee, Murray: Finlayson (MID), Mihocek
    MID: Danger, Dusty, T.Mitchell, Fyfe, Cripps, Coniglio, JOM, Brayshaw: Banfield, Kelly, Holman
    RUC: Gawn, NicNat: Olango
    FWD: Heeney (MID), Billings, Smith, Bell, Fog (MID), Fritsch: Keefe (DEF), Ryan

    Feedback Appreciated

    • POD Fiction! says:

      Goodluck with nic nat and fog wont play! Don't see any pods in your team at all, have fun getting lost in the herd of sheep.

      • Wow says:

        Did you try to select your team based off of highest ownership %? Bell will go back to scoring 50’s at most and JOM will handball his way to an 80 avg before he’s injured for the season.


      thought bell was avg 90 last year at Blues? ill suss.. Big unit, reminded me of Kouta, awk price, but had 11 tackles JLT i think?

      • Wow says:

        Yeah one year mate, most likely goes into a his no where half fwd role once beams is back and pumps out a solid 55 before getting dropped because he’s boarderline in the best 22

        • Russty_ says:

          Gotta agree with you there on Bell..just can't pick a guy based on JLT form, he's never been worth having before so why now?

          • Sc_Wow says:

            Exactly, I get fwds are thin this year but restructure your team so you’re not having to back unproven guys like Bell and Tab

            • David C says:

              Bell has earned a spot as an inside mid to start the season. If he holds his spot he is a good pick. But a couple of bad games and he'll be gone with Brissy bringing in the kids.

              • Sc_Wow says:

                There is no way Bell holds an inside midfeild spot. How many games has he played there for lions?

    • INPieman says:

      Too deep in the mids & not deep enough in the Fwd line IMO badger. And don't listen to people saying your team is cookie cutter. It's how you trade that matters

  21. nickgonzalez771 says:

    Am I in over my head picking Roughhead? Am I overreacted to a weak field in the FWDs this season?

    Laird Howe Simpson
    Naughton Doedee Murray
    Finlayson Mirra

    Danger (Will probably keep, worst case scenario he'll go down to Mitchell or Duncan) Zerrett Fyfe
    Parker Whitfield
    Brayshaw Brodie Kelly
    Banfield Barry Holman

    Kreuzer Gawn Olango

    Heeney Walters Roughy
    Petracca Sicily Fritsch
    Keefe Ryan

    • POD Fiction! says:

      Whitfield top 8 this year! watch this space

      • neil Demons Delight says:

        Change of job to a running defender similar to Shaw makes it a strong possibility

      • THE SALTSHAKERS says:

        big call…

        any reason, evidence to work with to see how u qualify?

        I dont know much about him, can you spill…?

  22. Darby says:

    Advice needed
    Back: Laird Hibberd naughton Doedee Murray Finlayson Stoddart Mihoek
    Mid: Danger Mitchell Kelly Oliver Fyfe Parker Banfield Barry Holman Kelly Rookie
    Ruck: Goldstein Gawn Cameron
    Forward: Heeney Billings Walters Smith Caddy Fritsch Ryan Garlett
    How can I get Brayshaw in my side!!!!!!!!

    • Wow says:

      Stoddart will make you no money and cost you a trade. Goldy will be too focused on his tinder to be bothered about helping his wooden spoon side.
      Trade a player out to get Brayshaw in your side, you’ve got plenty of ordinary ones to choose from, but my recommendation would be Caddy.

    • Way Too Good! says:

      My advice Darby? Are you going for overall? if you are and danger doesn't play you trade him our for brayshaw… you a nice 550k in the bank!

    • Carl says:

      Goldy > Nank to make you some $$

  23. Duff says:

    Reckon you're wrong to take a non-scoring rookie in the forward line. Yes the forward rookies look like they'll score the worst but there's actually plenty that look likely to play. What's more at least some of the ones that will play seem on the cheap side.

    Stephenson, Fritsch, Ryan, Waterman, Venables, Garlett, Giles-Langdon all fairly likely.
    Fogarty, Tiziani, Keeffe, Miers, Rioli and Rose all a slim chance.

    Garlett, Waterman, Ryan, Fritsch and Giles-Langdon makes for a pretty decent set of rookies that are all under 125k and so don't need to score well to make cash. .

    • Way Too Good! says:

      OH they don't need to score well? so 23 each round will make them a valid selection and rise plenty aye? you've got no idea, this man kev finished in the top 22 THOUSAND last year. He knows what he is on about Mr.!!! If you don't like his advice don't take it but by golly me if you think he will take advice from a nuffie in duffy your mistaken!

    • SC_Kev7 says:

      Steph not worth 180k based on JLT. Fritsch I have, Ryan I have. Waterman’s JS looks shaky once JJK is back.

      I really wanted Venables to show something preseason, I was tracking his WAFL form last year and he would be among the BOG more often that not. Just doesn’t get enough of the ball.

      Garlett is a seagull and ZGL is my alternative if Darcy Cameron is not in Sydney’s R1 team.

      F8 loophole is basically Cameron vs ZGL. No Cameron? I’ll get Olango or Jeffries as R3 loophole. Cameron plays I’ll leave it as it is

  24. Super says:

    Laird,savage,sicily,naughton,oshea,dodee (finlayson, murray)

    Martin, t.mitchell, kelly, bont,fyfe, cognilio,brayshaw, banfield (barry, kelly, hollan)

    Martin, gawn (cameron)

    Franklin, greene, mclean, d.smith, keefe, fritsh (rioli, ryan)

    • nankthetank says:

      O'shea hasn;t done enough for me to warrant that high rookie price.
      I'd trade him for possibly Mihocek and use that money to upgrade bont to possibly Crouch or Zorko

      • Super says:

        U dont think bont will perform better than crouch or zorko?

        • Sc_Wow says:

          I think dogs players are hard to pick. Bont may have a few quiet quarters in the forward line. Don’t see him scoring much more than last year. Crouch and Zorko have way more upside

        • nankthetank says:

          I believe Crouch and Zorko will average more than Bont, but it just all depends on whether or not the supercoach gods keep gifting bont points.

  25. Jordan says:

    I need 1 defender and 3 forwards out of
    Heeney, Greene, billings, Lloyd, shaw


    • Wow says:

      You’ve named 3 forwards so I guess those 3??
      Neither of those defenders warrant a selection, id recommend you auto pick your team

    • #66 2017 says:

      Can you please go look in the mirror and take a good long hard look at yourself. Re read your posts before submitting muppet.

      • jordan says:

        Sorry mate I won’t be looking in the mirror…. I’m aroused enough as it is since footy is 4 days away.

  26. Jamesdnkly says:

    2 of Dahlhaus, billings and Greene

    • pod says:

      Billings and Greene

    • nankthetank says:

      Billings and Greene, if toby can keep his fists by his side then he's gonna be a very nice POD this year. I don't have him personally however I am not looking forward to playing someone who does.

      • Carl says:

        Given Giants early draw Toby is a near must. Could ave 100-105 if he keeps his hands to himself

  27. Matty says:

    Anyone Keen to join a draft league hopefully drafting tonight?

  28. StevoRivo says:

    Like the team Kev, some brave calls there – Libba, Taberner & Ryan. They are all PODs to me and could really work.

    What’s your plan with Danger Round 1?

    • #66 2017 says:

      I know the pictures are nice to look at of his team but he also did a write up about each player briefly. You must be illiterate as he said his plan for danger.

      • pod says:

        Why are you on this site? you're obviously way too cool for school.

        • #66 2017 says:

          As a #66 rank finish in 2017 SC season I am a God here walking amongst boys chasing glory and advice. If someone can't read a small paragraph and waste people's time I'll tell them to pull their head in. So Mr pod you worry about submitting your team full of 1%ers

      • ToughBretts says:

        Stop being a tosser

      • StevoRivo says:

        Ok champ. Good luck with your $50k prize this year. Looks like you have all the answers. Perhaps you can tell us who Kev is running as Captain for Round 1 with Danger being loopholed? Can’t see that in the pictures.

        • Sc_Wow says:

          Can still run the forward line loophole and take a punt on Fyfe as VC, he then also has tich Kelly who play after Fyfe as safe selections for a round 1 captain.

          • StevoRivo says:

            Thanks Wow. Been a while since I’ve played the loophole as Danger has been set and forget for a while. Many running with Olango as the loop given Sunday games. Is he a better option to Narrier in this case or do we need Cameron at R3?

            • Sc_Wow says:

              I’ll be running Olango, can get a cheaper playing rookie in fwd line. I don’t think Cameron is needed if your picking 2 premo ruck. Maybe if you’re risking Lycett and want bench cover. I don’t know how much game time Cameron will get tbh

              • StevoRivo says:

                Yes, spot on. Cameron has been my R3 for a while as I was considering Lycett for a brief period. Have opted for Martin & Gawn a few weeks back. Olango is a good loophole now, thanks.

  29. EasyMoneySniper says:

    Hey community,
    Is it worth trying to pick the rise of midfielder that is a little bit cheaper (between 500k-580k) or should i just fork out the cash for an uber premo in that position?

    Not long now guys!

    • ToughBretts says:

      I'd say pick 2-3 sure things, and then have at least one speculative pick. Bont, Beams, Parker, and Cripps all are likely to finish around 600k

      • EasyMoneySniper says:

        Thanks TB, Parker and Bontempelli are the ones standing out or me in that area, so i'll certainly pick one of them!

    • pod says:

      If you pick last seasons uber prem you've got to expect price fluctuations. If they perform to standard you will be saving trades. If you pick 500-580k players you're hoping for an uber which might pay off.

    • SC_Kev7 says:

      Mids bat very very deep this year, EMS. Plenty of options in that price range

      • EasyMoneySniper says:

        Thanks Kev, If you don't mind, do you have a preference out of Bont and Parker and why?

        Good luck this season

        • nankthetank says:

          Parker has proven himself to be a jet, as his brownlow runners up proves, and there is no reason why he cant return to his best again this year.
          Bont finds a way to be gifted points by looking at the ball, so if the supercoach gods still gift him points then he'll also be a solid pick, but if they stop giving them to him then he may disappoint you.

        • Wow says:

          Back yourself sniper. Not sure why you a valuing a player who finished outside the top 20k last year? I know I’m aiming to finish a lot higher than that again, and you don’t get there by following the always positive advice of those lower than myself.

          • EasyMoneySniper says:

            You make some valid points there Mr Wow, they are the two players i have cut my decision down to, so i was just asking as i cannot separate them, do you have an opinion on the two players????

            • Wow says:

              Look at their scoring history, what may have caused it and decide for yourself. I defiantly have one of those guys in my team and won’t be going near the other

        • SC_Kev7 says:

          You can make a solid case for both, Sniper. Bont spent a bit of time forward in the preseason which is a good or bad thing depending on how you look it at. If he adds a few goals to 25 touches a game he’ll be a very good selection

          • Wow says:

            ^See what I mean Sniper, do you’re own research mate and back yourself. I don’t really see how that ‘good/bad depending how you look at it’ comment is really going to be of much use

  30. Draft king says:

    If you've got the coin do a premo simple. Saves a trade

  31. James says:

    Hi community, team is still subject to change.

    Let me know you're thoughts, cheers

    Laird, Hibberd, Ryan, Finlayson, Murry, dodee (mirra and mihocek

    Selwood, martin, tick, fyfe, parker, cognilio, brayshaw, dom ( kelly, holman and Banfield)

    Gawn, Navs and Cam

    Dahlhaus, walters, Smith, Petrecca, Rayner and Fritsch (Ryan and Fogarty

    Have Selwood for Danger keeping the extra until Danger is fit.

    Thanks everyone

    • ToughBretts says:

      Don't know about Dahlhaus as F1, I think that needs to be Billings or Heeney. I like the rest though, Parker is so underrated, as is Ryan.

  32. ToughBretts says:

    Would appreciate some feedback fellas

    D: Laird, Hibberd, Bowes, Naughton, Murray, Doedee (Payne, Murphy)

    M: Zorko, Crouch, Duncan, Fyfe, Bont, Rockliff, Kelly, Barry (Finlayson, Banfield, Holman)

    R: Gawn, Martin (Hayes)

    F: Heeney, Cameron, Walters, Smith, Sicily, Fritsch (Langdon, Venables)

    **Justification Time**

    I think Laird and Hib are the locks down back. Hurley isn't far behind, but I think you can bank on a key defender having a week where he gives away 4-5 free kicks and throws out a stinker – will be my second upgrade.

    My midfield is a strange one, but hear me out. I'm not having 750k sitting on my bench with a hammy. It probably will be one week, but soft tissues in pre season are nothing to mess with, so I want to see him play three games healthy before he comes back in to my side. This will happen by dropping Jeremy Cameron down to Mason Cox (!), creating the ruc/fwd swing with Hayes, and protecting me from Gawn's inevitable one weeker that will leave most coaches lost. I also think everyone I've picked has top 10 upside and are in good situations this season – ideally I will finish the season with them.

    Forward line is where the risks should be this year, and while I like a lot of mid price PODS (Josh Thomas, Lewis Taylor, Darcy Parish) I went reasonably cookie cutter bar cameron.

    Let me know what you think

    • dontblusbaby says:

      How much cash do you have left over TB ?

      • ToughBretts says:

        30k as it stands – pendings decisions are Rocky/Conigs and Bowes/Coffield to fatten up the warchest, but Rocky at his best is a top 5 supercoach player, and Bowes looks like he'll be a genuine midfielder and he's listed as a 266k defender. Tough calls.

    • SC_Kev7 says:

      What’s your thinking on Bowes, TB? He was on my pre-JLT watchlist but didn’t do much to earn a spot

      • ToughBretts says:

        I think he's completed his apprenticeship as a defender, which I think all rookie midfielders should do to polish that side of their game in the big leagues, and now looks poised to be predominantly a midfielder. He had double digit contested touches in JLT, and while he's not banging the door down, his job security seems very high and we don't have cheap defenders this year who are genuine mids except for maybe Angus Brayshaw.

    • Wow says:

      That midfeild looks very weak. Different, but weak. There’s no way there will be a top 10 without at least a few players such as Martin, Tich, Kelly, Oliver. Wasting a trade to bring in cox, who you’re just going to trade out seems like a strange plan. Maybe rethink this.
      Hope this constructive criticism doesn’t offend you

      • ToughBretts says:

        I love a bit of constructive criticism mate
        I think Crouch and Fyfe are absolute locks for top 10, and I believe Bont will finish top 5 on Brownlow night in a dogs side that will rebound this year.
        Zorko's averaging 122 points without Rockliff in the past two years, and with Rocky gone I think Zorko's average possessions goes up from 25 to 28ish, which is a big jump considering he averaged 110 the past two years.
        Duncan finished last year with a 10 game average of 122, including finals, and looks cemented as one of the elite ball winners and users in the whole league, and who doesn't love a POD.
        Rockliff is a gamble, but the man averaged 132 in a season not long ago. Too much upside for 529k.

        I could be very wrong, but I've put a lot of thought into it so fingers crossed

        • #66 2017 says:

          From my experience and excellent overall ranking over the years your Duncan pick is a pod but it's naive. Ablett back, along side duckwood and danger your dreaming if you think he will be top 8 which is after all what you want….top 8 mids in your side.

          Pendles finished in top 3 past 5 years bar last year…..doesn't mean he will do it again, with this example come to your rocky selection….just dumb. Riddled with injury years between his best and their rd 10 bye.

          CD love bont but he WILL not finish top 5 mark my words let alone top 8. He doesn't accumulate enough to achieve it.

          Cox move…..don't even get me started.

          As for danger… want him after 3 rounds? Good luck with 30 odd k in the bank. Be stupid to trade out premos for him which is what you will have to do to get him. Good luck TB your gonna need it buddy. Alot to learn but hey your in the right place…..bloke that finished 22k last year is here to help.

          • ToughBretts says:

            I don't think there's a chance Ablett hurts Duncan. Dunc needs contested ball winners to fish it out to him so he can be their midfield playmaker, and Ablett helps him there. Also, he's at no risk of being swung forward, as he spends all of his time on a wing or on ball, so the forward line changes will be mainly a Menegola/Ablett/Danger rotation.

            Rocky had one bad half-season and people forget he was one of the best in the game as recently as the beginning of last year – very short memory Mr. 666

            Yeah it may be unconventional to trade premiums, but it's stupider to not have Dangerfield, so if he's back and firing in round four then whoever is underperforming the most of my six premo mids will get upgraded. Doesn't bother me, especially if you're so sure rocky will spud it up then I'll be happy to make that move.

            I'd love to see your team, but I assume you've just sorted by ownership and made the most generic and boring team possible.
            PS. trolls are the saddest people on the internet and you have this weird idea that you're either funny or smart, but I feel like you're neither.

            • Wow says:

              Not sure 66 is trolling mate. He makes valid points, just seems people get upset when they’re told their team isn’t amazing.

              I defiantly think gaz impacts Duncan, one of the best scoring sc players when he’s on the park. Rocky does score well, but does miss games and has not been seen in the power team.

              A huge part of this game is trades so the fact your willing to sideways to danger, and spend 2 trades on cox (unless he’s goung to be a keeper?) seems like a flawed plan.

              • #66 2017 says:

                Cheers wow, someone with a level head!

                Brett I'm sure you would love to see my team but I'm a top 100 player and aim to go a step further this year. I don't give out secrets to people that just make up the numbers. Goodluck!

                • #66 2017 says:

                  Also just wanted to point out that your calling yourself stupid and being even more stupid with – "Yeah it may be unconventional to trade premiums, but it's stupider to not have Dangerfield, so if he's back and firing in round four then whoever is underperforming the most of my six premo mids will get upgraded. Doesn't bother me, especially if you're so sure rocky will spud it up then I'll be happy to make that move."

                  Sooooo why are you not starting danger, just have a rookie fill in for rd 1 if out. Its not like youll be contending for the 50k as you are planning to trade anyone of your 6 premos out for him when you dont start with danger. Your first 6 premo mids SHOULD NOT BE TOUCHED! your picking them because they WILL be top 8. stop and think, not rocket science!

                  • ToughBretts says:

                    How can you bank on it only being one week, and then being at 100% the week he comes back? Hammies bring up too many variables to set and forget – he's a wait and see for now, but what I'm saying is he will be in my team by round 8, and I will have to call an audible if he gets too hot to ignore. Not rocket science.

              • ToughBretts says:

                Difference between constructive criticism and shitting on ideas without any suggestions floated, I feel. Some good points were made, but being a dick while making them ruins the contribution.
                Cox will be a keeper, probably finishing the season as F8 as protection from one-week ruck issues. Better to have him and not need him than need him and not have him I think.
                Ideally I won't sideways to danger, the extended plan is to chop down some rookies + bowes by week 7-8 and ideally grab Danger for 650k if all goes to plan. The sideways plan is a safety net if Danger comes back averaging 150 and I can't wait the two months without him.

                • #66 2017 says:

                  Not being a dick mate, just telling you how it is. Just take it with a grain of salt if you don't like it. But I feel I have made enough valid points to make you reconsider some of your plans. dropping Cameron to cox, I still don't get, cant comprehend. Makes no sense at all. wasted trades and you have set and forget ruck combo, you don't need cox.

                  • ToughBretts says:

                    So what will you do if or when Gawn gets sidelines for one week?

                  • ToughBretts says:

                    I was going to start with Cox and money in the bank, but I figured why put up with his bad scores up until the point I need him. Prefer to be one trade down and have premium scores for as many weeks as I can before a ruckman goes down. How is that so hard for you to see a benefit in having an insurance set-up?

                • Wow says:

                  Cox is a very expensive f8 will limit your ability to upgrade everywhere else quite a lot, all for the hyperthentical situation that your set rucks will miss a week? Seems like you still have a lot of questions and will need a lot of things to go your way for your team to be a success.

                  Alternatively ignore all previous comments and I’ll give you the following response – team looks great TB! Good luck this season!

                  • ToughBretts says:

                    He'll be F6 until I premo out my forward line, and I don't think it's crazy to assume both of my ruckmen won't play 22 games this year. I'm just not a fan of the idea that if one goes down, I face either a donut or two trades to bring Gawn back in.

                    • Wow says:

                      Bring someone in when and if it happens. Seems like way to much team structure is placed around the amazing Cox. For all you know he could score a 30 when covering this week off for Gawn. You’re way better off not starting Cameron if your so happy reading him out round 3. You’ll end up with no trades when you need them.

                    • neil Demons Delight says:

                      Unfortunately TB the two dicks or one are right and give good advice just need to learn how to give it. Trades are so important at the pointy end even two in the finals is great wish I had them last year So my advice stick with Gawn / premo forget Cox keep Danger on the pine and cop minus 30 also Rocky will let you down may as well pick Pendles .Duncan outside of top 10 mids but on the watch list for injuries etc particularly cat ones.. To improve unfortunately take their advice cheers

                    • Wow says:

                      Not sured I can be classified as a dick. Sure my advice might be given in a different tone to the fake positive stuff most people write on here, but that’s helping no one. Also like you have confirmed 66 and I know what we’re talking about. See you in the top 1% Neil demon

                    • neil demons delight says:

                      was I correct about the two being one and the one being trev . Your whole attitude to supercoach is identical to Trev who by the way has one of the best fantasy brains in supercoach His advice is not to be ignored and yes see you in the 1%

                    • Sc_Wow says:

                      Nah mate no Trev here. Decided to make this account a permanent thing. Sick of seeing the fake thoughts on people’s teams. Especially coming from players outside the top 22k

                    • Danielson says:

                      You guys need to chill out. This is a supercoach community. Advice is essential but you guys are total dicks when giving it. Maybe don’t shove the fact that you finished highly into someone’s face as that makes you come across as a noxious as well as tell them why they’re team is shit rather then just provide a few points to fix. Being naive to being a dick is perhaps worse then being one on its own. Competitiveness is also key, but shouldn’t be throwaround in such a threatening way, because again, you come across as a dick. I hope your whole team goes to bits and you think twice before giving other people unwarranted shit.

                    • Sc_Wow says:

                      Geeez Danielson, for someone so concerned about people acting like dicks you sure went on a pretty dickish rant there. Again I was just providing advice, which if taken will help this guy out

                    • Danielson says:

                      I’m simply defending a member of this community who was asking for advice on his team and was meet by a barrage of dickheads. I’m all for advice when it’s given in a constructive manner and without snobby ess or dickheadedness. This is a community for help and growth in the art form that is supercoach. Someone like you who shits on other people shouldn’t be here. I’d seriously reconsider what you’re doing on this website as helping people isn’t one of them

                    • Sc_Wow says:

                      Look over it again. I’d say I was pretty helpful you’re the only one not offering support and name calling

                    • Russty_ says:

                      Hi Danielson, one thing I've noticed being on here for the last 4 years or so is…some people can be offensive or crass to some but it's just their method of delivery, doesn't necessarily mean they are being cruel / Dicks..whatever, or are bad people, they may not be trying to humiliate or degrade anyone, it's just their style of communication.

                      I think he was trying to help by offering honest feedback, some people don't take honest feedback very well, it's all a matter of interpretation and semantics with words.
                      Some people don't believe in flowering things up with words so as not to offend too much, that's just their personality.
                      If he wasn't trying to help him, why would he waste so much of his time posting on here?

                      Just my opinion. Take it how you will.

                    • neil demons delight says:

                      I am sure Trev the founder of opposition site fantasysupercoach will surface again The game is poorer without his insights let alone his site By the way he always used that 'Nah mate' it's a tough gig writing these articles and Kev does a great job One of this sites regulars Derek was top 100 recently but last year finished way back 42k I think .He was crippled by a number of bad luck captains calls such as sellwoods 14 – not once but a few times. . I t can happen to us all s.c.gods but his knowledge of fantasy is second to none .Finishing 22k may well be irrelevant.. Coaches who are bold and informed about selections and willing to back their call will always flourish Parker Melksham and Whitfield are never mentioned here but are very relevant cheers

                    • Sc_Wow says:

                      Parker is a lock in my team, his poor performance was related to a never again 0-6 start for the swans. Whit has potential to go huge with his new role

                    • neil demons delight says:

                      Now you're talking but do yourself a favour research the main one and in particular historical changes MELKSHAM

                    • SC_Sixty6 says:

                      Alright boys, I'm here for any questions you might have. I'm not here to make friends. I'm merely here to help this community create strong squads and make smart decisions.

                      Indeed parker and Whitfield very relevant. Whitfield will flourish on half back. Huge meters gained and he runs all day long.

                    • neil demons delight says:

                      my reply was pulled Guess the truth hurts . Fellas whatever happened to Trev;s site will come out

                    • Russty_ says:

                      Maybe you had an accidental swear word in there Neil?..the robot censors seem to censor words like that.

                    • neil demons delight says:

                      Still no sainters Russty savage billings coffield.You and Gator see no value in them which is sad but right

                    • Russty_ says:

                      I have Coffield, Armo and McCartin in my side Now Neil 🙂

                • David C says:

                  Probably better to run with someone like Lycett at R3 for your ruck insurance. Then you are covered for late outs as well. Highly unlikely Gawn will play every game.

  33. Peter says:

    I am a Collingwood supporter and I want a Collingwood player. Pendles or howe?

  34. Way Too Good says:

    Go with your gut and get your pods or die wondering in the pack. I'd wait on rocky and get a real pod for that price. Injury prone and hasn't had a full pre season.

  35. Jerry says:

    DEF: laird, Mcgovern, Mills, sicily, Angus Brayshaw, sam Murray (Doedee, mihocek)
    MID: dusty, titch, Fyfe, Walters, Libba, Petracca, Andrew Brayshaw, Banfield (kelly, Finlayson, Holman)
    RUCK: Goldstein, Gawn (cameron)
    FWD: Mundy, j Cameron, d Smith, Impey, t Bell, Fritsch (Keeffe, l Ryan)
    Feedback is welcome! 7.8k in bank.

    • nankthetank says:

      That's a lot of mid pricers Jerry, particularly in the backline. I'm nowhere near brave enough to start that many, and you may benefit from trading one mid pricer for a premo such as hibberd and one for a rookie

      I'd move Petracca to the forward line so that you're not wasting a crucial midfield spot, and would then replace Cameron with the likes of Coniglio.


    the trolls…for lolz haha what a stooge


    Team looks good Kev

  38. Keenbutclueless says:

    Thanks Kev. I was previously playing Christensen at F6 because I don’t trust the forward rookies. By playing the loophole as you suggested, I have turned Lloyd into Zerrett. Even with Danger, have Fyfe at M6. Adds a whole different look to my side. Many thanks for the great suggestions

  39. GAZ says:

    What about Micheal Barlow

    • Derek says:

      I like. Will play in guts at the Suns. Plenty of points to go around with no Gaz and now no Hall for a few weeks.

      Pure midfielder with forward status at an undervalued price.

      Just the round 10 bye to deal with

      • Mr.Brightside says:

        Only in 2% of teams ? POD , I like it Derek, lets face it we can always make a corrective trade, but I'm confident he can be a success, especially with no Gablett

        • David C says:

          He didn't play the last JLT, he played NEAFL instead. Would suggest his Job Security is not good. Might get early games with the GC injuries but I think GC plan to pump games into the kids this year.


    DEF: Laird, Lloyd, Dodee, Naughton, OShea, Murray (Finlayson, Coffield)

    MID: Danger, Dusty, Titch, Ablett, Fyfe, JOM, Armitage, Brayshaw (Holman, Banfield, Barry)

    RUCK: Gawn, Goldy or Martin? unsure yet? (Cameron)

    FWD: Greene, Billings, Walters, Smith, Petracca, Fritsch (Keefe, Ryan)

    *just gonna check my team might have 1 x $400k fwd too many? hmm…


      Yup same team but without Danger? Thats right i took him out, Cats released grade 1 tear update this morning. Thats a 21 day inj, so fair chance will miss Rnd 1 unleash Gaz, and by their next game will be 18days.

      Still ive not allowed any Danger room $$ so ill be changing this around

    • ToughBretts says:

      I think if you're going two premo defenders then they both need to be top line, maybe try replace Lloyd with Hurl or Hib.
      Midfield is rock solid, but have a plan for when Ablett tears something – maybe accelerate the upgrade from JOM to a gun.
      I prefer Martin, partially because I'm a Brisbane supporter, but also because he's come back from the offseason in the best shape of his life and is a genuine clearance king. Also, Brisbane look too tall now to fit in Archie smith, and there are plenty of key position players who can pinch hit in the ruck to give stef a spell, so fingers crossed he's safe.
      As for the forward line, don't change a thing (except maybe Greene to Heeney). There are almost no guarantees down there as well, so don't be afraid to use a sideways trade if someone emerges as a breakout top 6 contender.
      Good luck

      • #66 2017 says:

        Don't sideways trade. Just get it right from the start.

        • Wow says:

          Not sure there is room for Naughton, O’Shea, and Coffield. Limiting your cash making there. Lloyd loves uncontested footy so will need a lot of the ball, can he do that with McGenral back there?
          Can’t be bothered explaining the rest. You’ll probably have no trades left come byes

  41. TRIGGA_HAPPY says:

    Kev did you put any thought into this team?

    Ans: of course you did though i think u were peaking through the key hole as we have quite a few similarities.

    Still looking at starting Kruez but not Danger.
    Shh on Ryan needs to stay podish

    Dont get all the who har on Taberner. But guess we need someone at F5.

    Hoping fogarty gets a gig for an F6

    First team i have seen without Laird. Big play.

    Good one mate c u in the happy place.

    • #66 2017 says:

      97% of people won't have the balls to go Ryan. Will breakout and outscore the likes of Lloyd, Shaw, savage which people are mainly going in that price bracket. Ryan a jet.

      • TRIGGA_HAPPY says:

        Balls out for me my man 😉👌

        • SC_Kev7 says:

          Haha, nah Trig. Slapped it together in 5 mins mate 😉

          Interesting re: Kruze. Both players priced at their peak and both will no doubt drop in price. Kruze drops 50-60k he's affordable, Danger needs a drop of 130-140k. Happy to take that initial hit on Danger as he'll make up the points quite easily I reckon.

          Was just chatting with Damo about Tab. Looking at his scoring history I'd agree with you, what's the fuss? Watching him across the JLT you wouldn't think he was a 50-60 player. Could very well be a JLT bolter and if he spuds it then that's thee way it goes, happy to take the risk.

          Happy Place super competitive last year! Can't wait to get back in

          • neil demons delight says:

            You always get a few novices or fed up coaches at the pointy end in these leagues. I checked my 10 and Triggs is the only league with none at the moment. You are right Kev super competitive and the winner will be worthy just like the dees memories of 64

      • Russty_ says:

        I got's da balls!…Ryan's a lock for me!…gonna be a superstar in the next few years I'm predicting.

        • SC_Sixty6 says:

          Last time I looked he was only 2%. Hopefully stays that way. Watched him closely and he will thrive! Watch his 130's this year. Freo alot more competitive and look like they may fight for 9th lol

          • Russty_ says:

            Hahahah 9th!…agree 66, Freo will do much better this year, they have some hope now with some new players coming through, just gotta turf spuds like Taberner, Ballantine and not a spud but old guys like Mundy next year…and Johnson.

          • Russty_ says:

            He also seems to be one of those rare sports guys, who does everything well, without trying all that much, I played Golf with a guy like that once, he'd been playing for 1 year and he made 2 eagles on the par 5's!.

    • Defying_Madness says:

      I am in the same thinking about starting Kreuzer over Danger. I think both will drop in price at some point in time so it is a matter of when you think they will drop and by how much.

      Ryan is really peaking my interest for my D2 spot. Currently have Mills in that spot but am seriously considering Ryan as an alternative, the only problem is I am extremely low on cash which might change once lineups come out in a few days. Ryan is made for supercoach scoring and I think he will be a great player for us over the next few years.

  42. CheekyNandos7 says:

    Any love for Hutchings from WCE as opposed to Bell/Christensen? Scores of 79 and 71 from JLT and eyeing off more midfield minutes with Priddis and Mitchell gone.

  43. Jordan says:

    Best defender under 505K

    • nankthetank says:

      Shane Savage at $473k looks to be a good pick

      • Russty_ says:

        As long as you don't mind the odd 40 and 50 scores, or him getting dropped for 11 weeks during a season, sorry Nank, but he's a big ole no from me.

    • redherringfc says:

      This is a tough one, especially if you don’t like Savage. You have Sicily at just over 400k, Ryan at 420 or so and it seems both are popular.

      I haven’t heard anyone talk about McGovern (wc). His numbers improve slightly year on year. He was just over 90 ave last year and played all 22. I think he will end the year close to a top 6 defender in total points and average, but would i start the year with him? No way.

      I’d say grab an extra rookie and save the cash or upgrade on another line.

  44. JDP says:

    Will the big Kreuzer back up last season? Big points to be made as set and forget with Max in my opinion.
    Thoughts appreciated

    • Sc_Wow says:


      • SC_Sixty6 says:

        Will be #2 ruck overall. Big Maxy will push out a few 160's this season. Kruezer you cant go wrong. Tweaked his ankle but had a good pre season!

  45. Jordan says:

    Ablett and pendles
    Sloane and josh Kelly?

  46. TommyC99 says:

    Ryan or Mills for D3?

  47. Mark says:

    merrett or oliver?

    • Russty_ says:

      Either or Mark I think, both good picks, I'm going with Oliver cause I think he can get better this year.

      • nankthetank says:

        I'm going Zerrett for the same reason that you're picking Oliver Rust! I'm interested to see how both players go this year.

        • Russty_ says:

          Either and both can do well this year Nank :), I just like Gawny knocking it into The wranger's hands, Bomber"s Rucks are a bit dicey.

    • Sc_Wow says:

      Oliver is proven to be consistent and will now have Gawn. Should have more game time this year too, see him going well this year

    • Defying_Madness says:

      I have both in my team currently. Hoping both of them back up their strong years and take it to another level.

      • Mark says:

        I could trade cripps up to have both but I feel like cripps bye is super helpful

        • Russty_ says:

          Cripps has only had one season averaging over 100, consider that.

        • Sc_Wow says:

          Also check Cripps previous tog history. Already pretty high, so he’s going to have to purely play better to score much higher than he’s shown

          • SC_Sixty6 says:

            Oliver 77% TOG avg for 2017. Add 4-5% and that's a recipe for a contested ball magnet to up his AVG by 5 points overall. Gawn to feed the ranga!

  48. Damo says:

    Thoughts and advice would be greatly appreciated

    Laird, Hibberd, Savage, Sicily, Murray, Finlayson (Doedee, Murphy)

    Danger, Dusty, Kelly, Fyfe, Coniglio, Libba, Banfield, Holman (Kelly, Barry, Constable)

    Gawn, Nankervis (Olango)

    Heeney, Billings, Smith, Lobb, Fridtsch, Langdon (Garlett, Ryan)


    • nankthetank says:

      Hey Damo, I really like the look of that team, a nice balance of safe options and PODs, all of which I think will be valuable ones too.
      The only one I have my doubts about is Sicily however I know many back him in so I wish you the best of luck for him this season.

    • SC_Kev7 says:

      I’d rethink the Lobb selection, Damo. Maybe swinging Sicily forward and grabbing another def rook? Coffield or Naughton

    • Russty_ says:

      Hey Damo..agree with Kev here, Lobb's not ready, probably way behind the pace with his fitness levels at the moment.

  49. Russty_ says:

    Played Binningup Golf Course today, what a fantastic course with an honour box so you pay $20 for 9 holes or 18, it's only a 9 hole course but it's so good, you can easily go around again. 🙂
    If you ever get over to W.A Southwest, you should check it out.

    • neil demons delight says:

      Gator's in Tassie but he could call in on his way back not sure of his handicap but he will give you a run Russty cheers mate must get over to ROCKY one day

      • Russty_ says:

        Hey Neilo, scores don't matter mate when you're in a pristine place and a unique perfect golf course, just gotta soak it all in and enjoy your day 🙂

      • Russty_ says:

        You and Gator always welcome over here Neil.

        • neil demons delight says:

          Will do one day never know when Must have spoken out of order Comment pulled. thought I spotted TREV in here still do.

          • Russty_ says:

            I doubt there's anyone monitoring it mate, they have a pre-set 'edit/ delete swearwords' thing setup i'm sure.
            try typing the word pish with a double s 🙂

  50. nankthetank says:

    Hey community, I've been tossing up between Zorko and Parker for a while now, but just can't make a decision.
    If anyone has any insights to help me decide that would be much appreciated!

    • Sc_Wow says:

      History says Parker is due a good year. Started slowly with the 0-6 start for swans. Zorko is a gun, don’t know if he cops heavier tags this year. Both with probably average the same. One is a fair bit cheaper

      • SC_Sixty6 says:

        If you have the cash. Grab zorko, will pump out a 200 at some point. The magician gets it done even if lions are shit, but it won't matter as they have an easy draw.

    • Holty says:

      Depends what u will do with the extra money you save on Parker? If u can use that extra money to improve ur side greatly, go Parker. Otherwise stick with Zorko.

  51. SC_Sixty6 says:

    I have a league with 8 spots. Show myself and Wow what you guys got. Join and comment your team name here. If I feel your good enough you stay in. Would like a strong league! We are top 100 ranks so no nuffies

  52. Keenbutclueless says:

    Kev. One more thought – how about Ahern? Derek’s idea about choosing a rookie as a loophole now who is likely to play later in the season, thus saving a trade, seems relevant here. The DPP and the saved trade might be worth the extra 20k

    • Russty_ says:

      Agree Keen, that line of thought makes very good sense, Ahern, Higgins types of rookies.

      • INPieman says:

        You could max out Liam Ryan & then trade him to Ahern. Have a feeling Ahern will need to play 8-10 VFL games before he gets a call uo

        • SC_Kev7 says:

          I saw this strategy on Twitter. Makes sense, but it also means taking away a downgrade option that is available for two positions.

          What’s even the deal with Ahern? Didn’t play JLT and to my knowledge he was fit? No idea what Norf have in mind for him

          • INPieman says:

            Coming off consecutive ACL's he needs to string some together at VFL first for sure. Norf need players like him. Lots of them

            • Derek says:

              you could be left with a H Godard on the bench for 17 weeks.

              the problem this year is there are no other good DPP F/M rookies to swing with.

              Other years we have had lambert, Krakour who you knew would get games

              maybe Higgins will get games early, or not

              • neil demons delight says:

                starcevic will play early. Almost worth picking as a loop and speculative pick. The problem is RAYNER who gets first go still an option. 126 k as against Brown 102k Last year I started with hibberd and Pickett as d pp non players Ended up out of trades with both on field Pickett did have that big game however. Think I might go Brown as a non playing mid coupled to Gartlett and cull Barry

  53. nankthetank says:

    Who would be the best investment: Luke Ryan or Callum Mills?
    I have 423k in the kitty so either way I'll be completely drained of cash.

    • EasyMoneySniper says:

      In my opinion Ryan has trap all over him, and we know we cant trust Ross Lyon, Mills is the better of the two and parker said he will get some midfield time!

      • Derek says:

        Mills coming into his 3rd year, could see his breakout. Ryan has played 11 games at AFL level.

      • Russty_ says:

        I'm happy to fall into that trap..he seems to me to have more potential to breakout than Mills, who has averaged 77 and 73.

    • INPieman says:

      Less point pigs down back at Freo. My vote goes to Ryan. But it's still a big risk

      • nankthetank says:

        Thanks Pieman, do you think Ryan will be a general down back like people are saying? I'm just worried that with only 11 AFL games player he is still very inexperienced.

        • SC_Sixty6 says:

          Mills dropped in AVG over his second year. He was around 77 mark from memory in debut year then dropped below 77. Mills isn't break out material. Even if he were injected into midfield like they say he's not that good of a ball winner. Ryan's intercept marks and kicking ratio has Shaw of old written all over him.

          • INPieman says:

            Couldn't agree more SC 66. Ryan is a great user of the ball

            • nankthetank says:

              Only concern is what if his efficiency decreases this year? How much will that impact his scoring? I feel like considering we only have a small sample of AFL games to go by his high efficiency may be pulling us into a trap. Thoughts?

              • INPieman says:

                My concern is his hit outs to advantage. Doesn't have gun mids at his feet. Scoring 80 in half a game has me interested. He got towelled by Gawn in the previous game & still scored 80. And Gawn looks like he's going to towel everyone

                • nankthetank says:

                  I feel as though we're not talking about the same player anymore

    • murray says:

      mills definitely

    • redherringfc says:

      Grab an extra rookie and save some cash.

      What happens week 2 when a gun mid (at 600k) goes down and you want to upgrade to the bloke who got 250 in week 1 (at 750k)

  54. Jack says:

    looking to fill this league 310881, come 16th overall last year and a few of the same coaches. Only top coaches please

  55. Goose says:

    What do Laird and Hibberd need to average to maintain their price, how do you work that out?
    I know footy wire does breakevens but I never understood what the formula is to work it out for yourself .
    Can anyone help?

    • INPieman says:

      To maintain their price they would need about a 5 point increase on last years AV. The starting price multiplier they use drops after round 3. So it makes it hard for a player to maintain their price. Unless they go better than the previous season. Which is why every player drops in price at some point

  56. BoltonsBlues says:

    What a year this is shaping up to be, I’ve chopped and changed my team more then I’ve had a hot dinner, in saying that I reckon I’m done for now

    Laird, Ryan, Sicily, Coffield, Naughton, Doedee (Murry, Mirra)
    Dusty, Titch, MCrouch, Fyfe, Cripps, Brayshaw, Finlayson, Banfield (Kelly, Barry, Holman)
    KruGawn (Cameron)
    Heeny, Greene, Billings, Smith, Tracca, Fritsch (Keefe, Waterman)

    • neil demons delight says:

      Great team B B check Mirra think he did a hammy vs casey sat

  57. team talk says:

    Messing around with a few scenarios

    Here goes

    Hibberd, Shaw, Ryan, Dodee, Murray, Finlayson ( Mihocek and Mirra)

    Martin, Mitchell, Oliver, Fyfe, Whitfield, Parker, Brayshaw and Dom (kelly,holman banfield)

    Gawn, Nanks Hayes R/F

    Heeney, Walters, Petracca, Cox R/F swing incase, Hutchings, Fritsch, (Starcevich and Ryan)

    Rookies subject o change, have cash in bank for upgrade to Danger, think he will drop down a bit this year, could be wrong, Cox for swing if Rucks have issues.

    Let me know your throughts,


  58. deancoxlover says:

    i think dean cox will be a reliable option in the middle, thoughts?

    • deancoxlover says:

      yeah i reckon he will be solid in terms of hit outs and battles won, and might get down and snag a few bombs every so often, solid pick

    • henry says:

      big dean cox is a lock for me

  59. SgtMarshallBB says:

    Hey community,
    What is the go with Goldy this year, do we think the Goldy of old will return or will he be hurt by the upcoming Preuss?
    Let me know what you think.

    • EasyMoneySniper says:

      Hey SGT, I think goldy can get back to his best, however he will be hitting the ball to halfwits so i'm not sure how his hit outs to advantage will work. Good luck if you pick him then

      • SgtMarshallBB says:

        Hey Sniper, i noticed that generally, his scoring comes off his disposals and goal kicking when he rests up forward, i feel like he will still have the ability to rack up the hit outs to advantage with a bull like Jack Ziebell in the middle, and i also see LDU is a good target in the midfield going forward.

      • Moustachio says:

        They just have to catch it, they dont have to do anything with it

    • nankthetank says:

      Hey Sgt, I think he will have an improved year this year, however even so there are still better and more reliable options that have lees of a chance of hurting you.
      Best of luck for your season.

      • SgtMarshallBB says:

        Hey Tank, who are you suggesting as the more reliable options? Because if we look back at the Goldy of old, he racked up a whopping 129 point average for the year, and i feel like we need to reunite the combo of Gawn x Goldy

        • Sandy says:

          I’d love to do that but I’m chicken. Good luck if you do.

        • Sc_Wow says:

          Goldy of old was playing in a more competitive North team. Don’t see him busting his ass for the wooden spooners

        • nankthetank says:

          You may not be willing to pay that bit extra but Ryder is in my opinion the safest pick bar Gawn (I'm assuming you have Gawn because I don't think you're stupid).
          Other option is Nank, I can only see him improving on his good season last year, and with the more appealing price tag he may be a nice option.

      • INPieman says:

        Some of Goldy's poor form from last season can be put down to his home life. His misses wasn't overly pleased to find out he was playing hide the sausage with the team massage lady. He was getting a happy ending that's for sure. But apparently he's back in a good space now. Looks like he's had a much better preseason. I think Norf will want him to have a great season so they can cash him in. On my shortlist

  60. BlueBaggerJosh says:

    Heeney and Weitering or Billings and Ryan?

  61. Tom Ferguson says:

    Thoughts? Tough year this year but I love a trusty POD
    Laird. Hibb, Rampe, Naughton, doedee, Murray (FInlayson, MIhocek)

    Titch. Kelly. Fyffe Treloar Parker cognilio. Brodie Brayshaw (Holman kelly. banfield)

    Gawn Nank (Cameron)

    Billings. Smith. Petrarca Walters christenson Fritsch (ryan. Narrier)

  62. murray says:

    Here is my final team guys, any comment or criticism welcome

    Laird, Lloyd, Naughton, Doedee, Finlayson, Murray (L Murphy Mihocek)

    Mitchell, Martin, Kelly, M Crouch, Fyfe, Bontepelli, Coniglio, A Brayshaw (Banfield T Kelly, Holman)

    Gawn, Nank (Olango)

    Heeney, Billings, Mclean, Petracca, Keefe, Fritsch (Ryan, Narrier)

    Thoughts please

    • deancoxlover says:

      solid, i wouldn't pay big for dusty though, just because he has the qualities of a one year wonder, knowing Richmond, they will finish out of the 8 this season.

    • nankthetank says:

      Narrier and Olango? Why have both when their only use for now is to use in the loophole?

  63. nick says:

    Cripps and Conigolio or Mitchell n Omera?

  64. deancoxlover says:

    who is your picks to win the flag this year? personally i predict the giants will win it all.

    • deancoxlover says:

      or possibly the Swans as Deano Cox is now an assistant coach

    • INPieman says:

      The Grand Final is played at the MCG. The Giants don't play well there

      • deancoxlover says:

        of course, but they have gained enough experience to finally take it out i believe. what about you?

        • INPieman says:

          If Gary can play into the finals the Cats will be tough to beat. If he gets a injured there stuffed. In that case Sydney

          • Starkingdom says:

            I agree with Pieman, the Cats with a fit Gaz and Danger and Duncan and Selwood…

    • Finnius says:

      I reckon Port will come from outside the top 4 to win it

    • neil demons delight says:

      For the third year in a row an outsider MELBOURNE 1, by far the best ruck 2 quality deep mids 3 GOOD KEY FORWARDS Hogan MCDONALD and Petracca 4 much improved defence lead by LEVER and HIBBERD 5 Incredible depth 6 quality coaches CHEERS NEIL

    • Goose says:

      GWS or Crows.
      Roughie maybe the Demons

  65. Stupid Coach says:

    Greetings community. Would love your thoughts on my team. I am struggling (like just about everyone else) to settle on a line up prior to the announcement of the Round 1 team. My current team as follows:

    B: Laird, Hibberd/Tuohy, Heath Shaw/L Ryan, McGrath, Naughton, S Murray, Dodee and Payne
    MID: Kelly, Zorko/Oliver, Neale, Bont, Parker, Cogniglio, Armitage, Holman, Finlayson, Spargo and T Kelly
    RUCK: Gawn, Nank and Cameron
    FWD: Buddy, Mundy, Petracca/Sicily, Townsend, Fritsch, L Ryan (WC), A Hearn and Hayes (PA)

    Will need to find a way to fit Danger in if he plays Round 1 and not sure if I want to go with Armitage or a rookie instead and bank the cash for when it comes to trade.

    Appreciate any comments/thoughts.

  66. deancoxlover says:

    Thoughts on Elliot Yeo? I think he will be a serious pod this season and will gain popularity after his mid season form

    • redherringfc says:

      In JLT 2 he scored 60. He didn’t get a mention from jlt1. As the 2nd most expensive defender that’s a disappointing score. I’d wait and see how he starts, I’d be very surprised if his price doesn’t drop early in the season.

  67. Nick says:

    Coniglio or JOM at M6?

    • redherringfc says:

      What do you want from them?

      You’re picking a player to score good points and then trade up at some point.

      JOM is cheaper so save the $$. You’ll also know when to trade him because at some point he’s going to have “Knee – TBC” written next to his name.

  68. Don says:

    Why the lack of love for Dusty in these team reveals?

  69. RougheadNSheSwallows says:

    G'Day community, long time fan here. Have few spots open for a draft league tonight (Monday) at 7:15pm. Would love to get a few community members involved. Thanks!

    • RougheadNSheSwallows says:

      League code is 250492

      • Clueless says:

        Hey mate, if I've finished making dinner I'll jump in, team name will be Tiddlywinks FC. Cheers

  70. redherringfc says:

    I thought I’d put my team out there to see what reaction it gets. My aim is to make finals with lots of trades left, so i’ve pretty much gone Keepers and money makers.

    Laird Savage Ryan Naughton Doedee Finlayson Murray Murphy

    Danger Kelly Oliver Merrett Fyfe Armitage Brayshaw Banfield T Kelly Barry Holman

    Gawn Kreuzer Cameron

    Billings Mundy Petracca Sicily Bell Fritsch L Ryan O’Keefe

    Only have 40k left and i might ditch Armitage for a rookie to get some extra $$. I’m not happy about Bell, but I’ll take the risk (ditto Ryan in defence). Rookies are all subject to to selection, but I’ll keep Danger and Kreuzer even if they miss round 1.

    Yes it’s a cookie cutter team. We all try to pick the best players and the ones on the up and then fill our team with rookies who will play and score decent points.

  71. DoggHaus says:

    Laird, Hibberd, Coffield, Naughton, Doedee, Finlayson (Murray, Mirra)
    Danger, Mitchell, Kelly, Fyfe, JPK, Brayshaw, Brodie, Barry (Banfield, Kelly, Holman)
    Kreuzer, Gawn (Cameron)
    Buddy, Billings, Dahlhaus, Barlow, Sicily, Fritsch (Giles-Langdon, Ryan)

    $54,200 in the bank

    Is a 5 player deep forward line too much? Should I keep Danger although he's injured? Is Kreuzer worth $600k?

  72. Jess says:

    The fwd rookies really aren't as bad as people are saying. A lot of them had low time on ground which should change. Dont think theres a need to go more than 4 deep in the fwds. Out of 4 rookie players, its likely that 2 play well

    • SCdonkey says:

      I don't know about you, for me it's really bad. Those rookies up fwd who played in JLT JS is very thin, none of them put their hands up to be worthy starting round 1. Well Fristch and Ryan maybe but then what happens when key forwards comes back? The likes of Kennedy, Tmac, Walker and etc.. you'd be stuck with 2 maybe 3 rookies not playing.

      • Jess says:

        We'll have to agree to disagree on that then. But with many of you locking in 5 supposed keepers in the fwd line, in a year that fwd lock premiums are yet to be known, smells like trouble. Maybe I'm just an old school guns and rookies gal and need to adjust, but I'll back in a few rookies. Looks like doing so (and strengthening my other lines too) will be a pod move anyway. All the best donky : )

        • Russty_ says:

          Wait until after Wednesday night Jess before you decide how much you like the Fwd line Rookies, the ones who are named are the only ones that matter.

        • SCdonkey says:

          I for one not having 5 keepers up forward, maybe only 2 will be keepers the other 2 or 3 will be a stepping stone. I find Fwd line premos this season are just not worth to start with, this season seems to be an ideal of going with mid price players as we are lacking of rookies in this department.

          We have been blissed with so many rookies down back and in the guts for cash generation. We'll find out soon enough in couple of the days which rookies gets a gig. But main concern is their JS specially the fwd line.

          Gonna be an interesting year that's for sure. I've never seen so many teams with mid price players since i started SC 7 years ago.

          Best of luck to ya too Jess <img draggable="false" class="emoji" alt="👍" src=""&gt;

  73. GAZ says:

    Def – Laird, L Ryan, Hibberd (Melb), Naughton, Keefe , Doedee (Murray, Finslayson)

    Mid – Titch, Danger, Fyfe, THE Zorko,J Kelly, Brayshaw( FRE), Garlett, Banfield, (Barry, Holman, T Kelly)

    Rucks – Gawn,Sandilands (Cameron)

    Fwd – Heeney, Billings , Smith, Barlow, Christensen , Fritch (Ryan, Brown)
    Any advice have 150k bank too much freo or not

    • nankthetank says:

      What is your reasoning for sandi? To me he is the biggest no out of all ruckmen, so I'm interested in why you've picked him.

      • GAZ says:

        Well when i was doing super 5 years ago he was the best ruckman for about 4 or 5 years in a row what dont you like him or should o get instead

        • nankthetank says:

          I don't like that he's 35 years old for a start, and I don't like even more that he's only played 15 games in the last 2 seasons. If you want someone at a similar price range then Nank would be a nice option, but if you want to spend some of that 150k then Ryder is a better pick.

    • Russty_ says:

      Better off going with Nankervis I feel Gaz, Sandi is still good but old as FK in AFL terms…will miss games through injuries probably too.
      Darcy will be chomping at the bit to take over.

  74. GloryDays90 says:

    What are people thinking of my current team?

    How many top price rookies should we have if any?

    Also who out of Christensen and Bell should I pick? Or should I just have a rookie.


    DEF: Laird, Hibberd, Howe, Doedee, Coffield, O'Shea (Keefe, Murray)

    MID: Dangerfield, Mitchell, Zorko , Merrett, Fyfe, Brayshaw, Finlayson, Kelly( Barry, Garlett, Holman)

    RK: Gawn, Nankervis ( Cameron)

    FWD: Billings, Mclean, Smith, Sicily, Bell, Ryan ( Venables, Fritsch)

    • Jess says:

      I really like o'shea and naughton. As a lot of people aren't observing, rookies like o'shea have had limited game time in JLT's. O'shea scored 60 points in less than 30% game time. Naughton has great JS, so i rate him above coffield. I'd probably lose the mod/fwd swich of garlett (you can trade in a dpp later). Your mids look great. Nank is obvious risk but shoul average just over 90 so excellent upgrade option. Fwds look good but would be looking to find a spot for heeney, who will likely ave close to midfield numbers. I rate bell highly given jlt form, his abilty, and looks to be set for moremod time. Be prepared to use fwd trades because not all will be top 6-10

      • Russty_ says:

        Hi Jess, Naughton didn't exactly have a great JLT…and O'shea has been around since 2011 and has only reached a maximum average of 74 in 2013 and 2014.
        Don't see Nank as a risk whatsoever, in fact I think he could end up a top 3 Ruckman this year.
        Bell has a history of being a spud, I wouldn't rate players too highly on pre-season form, more often than not it can come back to bite you.

    • nankthetank says:

      I'm rocking with Christensen, however 4 mid pricers in the FWD line would take a far braver man than me.

      • GloryDays90 says:

        I've downgraded Zorko to Kennedy who I was looking at anyway. And have up graded Mclean to Heeney to make it 3 MID prices in the FWD line

        • nankthetank says:

          I think that's a good idea, a lot safer but still plenty of PODs

    • deancoxlover says:

      Very solid side, many similarities with my own dream team, but i wouldn't count on Zorko this year, purely because of the loss of Rockliff. Zorko is also entering the beginning of the end of his prime and i would suggest you go with another premo mid for the time being!

      • Russty_ says:

        Did you see Zorko in the preseason games?…he's just as beastly as ever and gets a heap of the pill, he's not even close to declining.

  75. GAZ says:

    What about Christensen no love for him anymore

  76. Daniel says:

    NicNat and Bell/Christensen


    Lycett and Sicily for my R2/F5 Positions

  77. nankthetank says:


    Geelong is set to select Dangerfield round 1 bar any further mishaps:

    How does that sit with everyone/how does that change your team? I'd love to hear all your thoughts


  78. Danny says:

    How will Coniglio affect Kellys's scoring?

    • nankthetank says:

      If you're worried about Kelly scoring less as a result of Coniglio then don't be.
      In the 10 games that Coniglio played last year, Kelly averaged 120 SC points, an increase on his 114 season average.
      However with Lachie Whitfield looking like he's going to have a breakout year that may take away from Kelly's score. Having said that, if JLT is anything to go by then Kelly can still go big with Whitfield playing well, averaging 121.5 points in the JLT.
      Bottom line is I wouldn't be concerned, Kelly is a freak who will find a way to score no matter what.

    • deancoxlover says:

      i don't believe so, Kelly is unparalleled in the league with his efforts on the footy, i don't see the progression of another decent young mid effect Kelly's performance. Both are solid picks, back em

  79. Sammy_14 says:

    Thoughts on Callum Mills?

    • deancoxlover says:

      High ceiling for this young gun, don't think he will star this season though with that stacked Sydney side so i wouldn't count on him week in and week out, but next year he will go straight into my line-up!

      • Russty_ says:

        Why do you think he has a high ceiling big cox?…last 2 years he's averaged 77 and 73.

        • deancoxlover says:

          the kid is only 20 mate, i reckon with the departure of a couple sydney stars and this kid will break out, just give him time

          • Russty_ says:

            Doesn't the fact that his average decreased by 4 points in his second year concern you though? Improving players need to improve.

            • deancoxlover says:

              i understand where you're coming from although it is a relatively insignificant difference and again, being 20 years old and trying to fit into a stacked team like the swans is not easy, give him time

              • Sammy_14 says:

                Im also tempted by Witherden, looks all class but JLT performance has made me a little worried.

                • Russty_ says:

                  Wouldn't worry about JLT Sammy…Witherden is capable of good things.

  80. nankthetank says:

    After a panicked hour of trying to fit in Danger after seeing that he's returning I have been left with the decision of Sicily or Mills.
    Thoughts community?

    • Russty_ says:

      I reckon Sicily will average more than Mills, because of his new role, but others are saying Mills will have a breakout year, I don't see that happening but I guess you could flip a coin?

    • deancoxlover says:

      Sicily, Mills is still developing as a young player whereas Sicily can break out in a decent Hawthorn side. the three year age difference does it for me until further notice!

  81. GAZ says:

    Christenson or Taberner can afford both

  82. GAZ says:

    Who should i get instead of Sandilands can afford anyone

  83. Jordan says:

    I am in a $200 money league where winners gets 2k. If I want to try win do I need to start with more rookies for cash generation(7) or can I start with 6 and have an extra stepping stone in bonner. Instead of bonner I could go with O’Shea if named.


  84. Gareth says:

    Hey guys I’m tinerking with two teams thoughts on both:

    Def: laird,ryan,Bonner,doedee,Murray,Finlayson
    Bench: o’shea, Naughton

    Mid: danger,Mitchell,Kelly,Oliver,fyfe,Bradshaw,Brodie,Banfield
    Bench: jelly,Barry,Holman

    Ruck: gawn, nank bench: Cameron

    Fwd: menengola,Heeney,Billings,Walters,D.Smith,ryan
    Bench: Fritsch, narrier

    I have gone big in the fwd line as there isn’t as much quality cash to be made yet IMO – second team :

    Def: laird,hibberd, ryan, doedee,Murray,Finlayson
    Bench: murphy,Naughton

    Mid: danger,dusty, Mitchell,Kelly,fyfe,Bradshaw,Brodie,Banfield
    Bench: jelly,Barry,Holman

    Ruck: gawn, nank bench: Cameron

    Fwd: menengola,Billings,Walters,D.Smith,ryan,fristch
    Bench: Fogarty, narrier

    It’s kinda either dusty and hibberd with rookies or Bonner, Oliver and heeney.


    Thoughts and feedback would be great

  85. GAZ says:

    Would you rather Christenson or Taberner

  86. deancoxlover says:

    Hey Community!!
    Thoughts on Nic Nat this year? Anyone recommend picking him up?

  87. Jack says:

    Does anyone have the group code for JR community? Cheers

  88. FearTheBeard says:

    Fella's can I get some overall thoughts on the current squad bloody sick of playing with it 😉

    Laird, Savage, Ryan, Doedee (if not named can upgrade to Naughton/O'Shea), Murray, Finlayson (Murphy, Mihocek)

    Danger, Dusty, Titch, Fyfe, Coniglio, Brayshaw, Banfield, Holman (Garlett, Kelly, Barry)

    Kreuz, Gawn (Cameron)

    Buddy, Billings, Walters, Smith, Tracca, Fritsch (Giles-Langdon, Ryan)

    My only real question is should I be cutting 2 rookies down to not playing cheapies e.g Cameron & Barry/Ryan to 102k players so I can upgrade Coniglio to Oliver?

    My logic is at present let Coniglio go up in cash, let the rookies fatten up and let Oliver clear my head on his knee and pull the trigger then?

  89. FearTheBeard says:

    Or do I break my heart and cut my beloved Dusty and Coniglio for Kelly & Oliver straight up?

    • Dylan says:

      In my honest opinion, that Oliver and Kelly would look very good on your team! I'd only have Cogs if he's going to be a keeper. If injury concerns you with Oliver, Zerrett and Zorko are both great backup options

      • Dylan says:

        Also keep as many playing rookies as possible. The cash generation from guys like Barry will outweigh that extra start up cash. Cameron is fine to downgrade as a ruck loophole though

        Otherwise solid team, I went the 5 forward deep strategy too just a lot more top heavy

  90. FearTheBeard says:

    Thanks Dylan.

    So if I cull Cameron & someone else (Barry etc) I could upgrade Cogs to Oliver and keep Dusty.

    Right move you think?

    Otherwise downgrade Dusty to Kelly & keep the rookies playing.

  91. oldmate65 says:

    What is the general feel about Dangerfield?

  92. John says:

    Hi Community.

    Here's my team based on a mid-price strategy (which got me into top 500 mid season last year). A but radical… but any thoughts welcome. THanks

    Backs: Hibberd, McDonald, Sicily, McGrath, Brayshaw (Melb), Murray (Doedee, Finlayson)

    Mid: Z Merrett, Fyfe, Cripps, Coniglio, Liberatore, O’Mera, Armitage, Holman (Banfield, Kelly, Barry)

    Rucks: Gawn, Nankervis (Lavender for loops)

    Forwards: Heeney, Walters, Smith, Watts, Dunkley, T Bell (Keefe, Fritsch)