SuperCoach RD8: The Heroes, The Villains, The Damned.

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The future is now. We are seeing a changing of the guard, Community. The old firm has given us plenty of good memories, but the time of the young bucks has come.

A new wave of the brightest young SuperCoach prospects has emerged and boy did they put on a show on the weekend. The likes of Cripps, Kelly, Oliver, Merrett and Mitchell were absolutely prolific for their respective sides, smashing through the 130-point barrier in scintillating fashion.

And then there was Nic bloody Newman. A late inclusion into Sydney line up on Sunday, the youngster proceeded to smash out an incredible score of 151C.

The exuberance of youth has propelled these players into their prime ahead of time – they have well and truly arrived.

The Heroes

Patrick Cripps (157 SC) led all comers with a masterclass for the Blues. Had 30 touches – 20 of them contested – 11 marks and 2 goals all at 80% efficiency. Start the year off slowly after a back injury limited his pre season. Looks to be approaching full fitness now and should dominate for the remainder of the season.

Horse is really messing with us now. He didn’t pick Nic Newman (151 SC) initially, but then snuck him in as a late inclusion against the Roos. By then, most coaches had either traded him out or had him sitting on the pine. He had 35 disposals and 11 marks in a stunning display. The Swans are back in a big way, and their mids in particular had a day out against the Roos. JPK (137 SC), Dan Hannebery (134 SC), Isaac Heeney (130 SC) and Luke Parker (122 SC) all got in on the action.

Those who started with Josh Kelly (147 SC) would be pleased as the star Giant has been incredibly consistent this season and almost single-handedly helped his side get over the line on Saturday. Had it 36 times with 11 tackles and a goal. The Demons had a field day in their 51-point mauling of Adelaide, with Clayton Oliver (142 SC) leading the way with 30 disposals, 10 tackles and a brilliant goal from the boundary line. Team-mates Jack Viney (130 SC), Christian Petracca (121 SC) and Nathan Jones (120 SC) also joined in on the party.

Ball magnets Tom Rockliff (147 SC), Tom Mitchell (135 SC) and Zach Merrett (137 SC) were simply sensational for their respective sides. Rocky had it 30 times, 21 of them contested, and racked up a monster 13 tackles as well. But he dislocated his shoulder late in the match and faces a stint on the sidelines. Opponent Mitchell gathered 36 possessions and 9 tackles in another productive outing while Merrett was brilliant for the Bombers with 33 disposals and 12 tackles.

Sam Docherty (132 SC) is on track to be the number 1 defender in SC for the second consecutive year, accumulating 26 possessions, 11 marks and 6 tackles. However hot on his heals is Rory Laird (124 SC), who was one of the few Crows to perform in their disappointing loss to the Demons, racking up 37 disposals. Young Saint Jack Billings (136 SC) had a break out match with 30 touches and 5 goals while team-mate Seb Ross (129 SC) is proving to be one of the finds of the season, producing another good game which included 31 touches and 2 goals.

When Max Gawn went down, many coaches had the choice between two options  – Brodie Grundy and Stef Martin (125 SC). Those who went Stef should give themselves a big pat on the back. He was excellent again tallying a huge 63 hit outs and 10 tackles. Speaking of gun ruckmen, Sam Jacobs (141 SC) has again entered the conversation. After a couple of barren years, big Sauce has returned to vintage form in 2017, smashing out an enormous 74 hit outs.

Speedy Freo forward-turned-midfielder Michael Walters (137 SC) absolutely cut Richmond apart with his run and dash while gun mid Lachie Neale (129 SC) continued his scintillating form after a slow start to the match. Andrew Gaff (121 SC) was close to best on ground for the Eagles in their win over the Dogs, gathering 35 touches and 15 marks to go with 1.1. West Coast teammate Shannon Hurn (121 SC) had it 28 times, including 20 kicks, at a proficient 89% efficiency.

Other players to break the 120-mark for the round were Bomber Michel Hurley (127 SC) and Swan Sam Reid (127 SC).

The Villains

It was all meant to fall in to place for Brodie Grundy (83 SC). No Cox – check. 46 SC at quarter time – check. Due for a big score after a month of mediocrity – check. So what the bloody hell happened?

Bulldogs Luke Dahlhaus (65 SC) and Jason Johannisen (77 SC) did not register a single tackle between them, with Dahl only having 4 contested possessions out of 25 and Top Deck just 3 contested touches out of his 26. This was the main factor for their low scores.  

Jeez, Heath Shaw (77 SC) has featured in here a few times already this season. We are all waiting for him to hit his straps and it hasn’t bloody happened yet. Seems to be impacted by the emergence of Zac Williams in particular.

Veteran Saints Leigh Montagna (75 SC) and Nick Riewoldt (75 SC) have now appeared in this section two weeks in a row and could be starting to slow down in their old age. Scott Pendlebury (77 SC) appeared to be distracted by the impending birth of his first child, but, hey, at least he didn’t have to leave mid-match. Cats pair Joel Selwood (78 SC) and Zach Tuohy (66 SC) were ordinary in Geelong’s loss to the Bombers.

Rory Sloane (70 SC) had his second quiet match in a row and was hindered by a Bernie Vince tag. Expect teams to deploy this tactic on him for the rest of the season. Fellow Crow Matt Crouch (79 SC) again could not reach the heights expected of him. Superstars Gary Ablett (80 SC) and Robbie Gray (76 SC) did not standout during their historic Chinese match, while Swans pair Lance Franklin (82 SC) and Zak Jones (63 SC) were quiet despite Sydney’s strong victory.

The Redeemers

Elliott Yeo (109 SC) is defying his previous Yo-Yo reputation and is starting to produce a season of real substance and consistency. Now appears to be a must-have forward. Jarryd Roughaed (99 SC) continued his resurgence with 2 goals while Jack Steele (114 SC) played one of his best games for the Saints.

Marc Murphy (108 SC) has shrugged off several injury-plagued seasons and now looks the real deal in 2017. If he continues his current form, a top 10 finish in the midfield is not out of the question. The only concern is his injury history which – as is evidence with Dayne Beams – could re-emerge.

The Prodigies

Despite his modest first two scores, David Meyers (57 SC) looks the goods for the Bombers and his position in the Essendon side appears safe. He should be the number one trade-in target this week if you are looking for a downgrade.

Expensive trio Tim Taranto (82 SC), Will Hoskin-Elliott (75 SC) and Andrew McGrath (66 SC) justified their price tags with solid performances. Brisbane’s Jarrod Berry (71 SC) continues to improve with every game, while fellow Lion Jake Barrett (59 SC) did enough to hold his spot.

Ed Vickers-Willis (79 SC) had a much-improved outing for North, while counterpart Sam Durdin (48 SC) started to find his feet in his second match. Jy Simpkin (6 SC) copped an injury early. Swans rookies Will Hayward (38 SC) and Lewis Melican (31 SC) were unable to cash in on their side’s big win.

Port’s Sam Powell-Pepper (70 SC) had a decent outing in China, while Gold Coast opponents Jack Bowes (52 SC) and Brad Scheer (27 SC) must have been impacted by the pollution and hefty travel time. Freo’s Cam McCarthy (66 SC) looked lively up forward, while Tiger opponent Todd Elton (22 SC) was barely sighted.

Carlton’s rookies Caleb Marchbank (63 SC), Sam Petrevski-Seton (59 SC), Zac Fisher (39 SC) and Tom Williamson (38 SC) failed to impress as did Cats trio Tom Stewart (46 SC), James Parsons (38 SC) and first-gamer Mark O’Connor (28 SC).

Giant Daniel Lloyd (54 SC) looked OK on debut, while West Coast’s Kurt Mutimer (53 SC) and Hawthorn’s Blake Hardwick (32 SC) didn’t get enough of the ball to have an impact.

The Damned

Crows pair Andy Otten (56 SC) and Curtly Hampton (52 SC) did not make their break evens this week and lost cash. Now is the time to move them on before they bleed any more coin. Melbourne opponent Mitch Hannan (30 SC) was again deplorable and surely won’t be in the Demons side much longer, while time may be up for Richmond forward Daniel Butler (36 SC) as well.

Cyril Rioli (75 SC) looks to have done a serious knee injury and will be out for a number of weeks, while Tom Liberatore (34 SC) just hasn’t been the same since his return from a serious knee injury. He had only 8 disposals despite playing 85% game time.


How did you go this week, Community?

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  1. Ethan says:

    Thoughts on Steele Sidebottom, averaged 100+ last 4-5 seasons and has fallen away due to crap DE and clangers. Any chance he'll return to his peak

    • jez_m says:

      At this stage it looks unlikely. Won't be a top 10 midfielder by seasons end.

    • Danners says:

      Maybe wait a bit and take a punt on R.Gray, could be $440k in a couple of weeks

      • INPieman says:

        Robbie Gray in carrying a groin injury & is playing as a small forward. Buyer beware

        • psyrick says:

          Robbie Gray has been carrying a groin injury for years now, it doesn't really seem to affect him much. While he heavily targeted in the Port forward line, the risk of him getting shut out of games by a good defender is too high to consider him as a good mid option though. Also Wingard is now the preferred mid option to rotate in (might looking to pick him up in the forward line) but I think Hinkley likes switching up rotations so he will still see some mid time, just resticted.

    • Top Gun says:

      Staying away from any Collingwood mid atm

    • Peter Demetriou says:

      Personally think there are some better value picks like D.Martin, R.Gray & Z.Merret (Not that cheap)

    • pod says:

      Yesget him if u can

  2. John H says:

    I'm putting myself in the damned section I can't take a trick I give up goodbye supercoach world

  3. Bells says:

    Is Myers worth bringing in? Pretty ordinary scoring. What is his JS like? Getting to the stage where we just want someone in on the bench who will play for rest of year plus a few rock bottom priced guys.

  4. Henry says:

    Will Jayden Hunt play next round?

    He got 56 considering he only played half a game…

    Can do otten and treloar for kelly and hunt, thoughts?

    • whatyasmokin says:

      Sorry Henry but those trades are garbage.

      Whilst I like Josh Kelly he's not a top mid, not really a POD really either at 7.9% and there will be people chasing his 150 so that ownership may go up. Can see players Like JPK, Zerrett and Fyfe averaging more for the season from here on.

      Jayden Hunt is unproven.

  5. Babo says:

    Yeo Yeo… What to do…..

    1. Buy NOW.
    2. Wait till after WCE Bye.
    3. Too Late.. search elsewhere.
    4. Wait for his sub 70 Sc which is inevitable.

    • Ben says:

      3 or 4 I think. There are better value picks.

    • redherringfc says:

      i'm hoping he crashes back to reality and realises he is not a supercoach premium (this year).

      I'm going to see him out for this year and then give some serious consideration for him at the start of 2018.

      Heeney is almost 70k cheaper and hopefully (because i bought him last week) going to be as good as yeo.

    • Raging Bulls says:

      2 into 4

  6. Xan says:

    Any forward rookie options to bring in this week

  7. neil demons delight says:

    great stuff Carl how bad is Cyrils injury..Myers is a must have now

    • Kev says:

      If you're in the market for a mid downgrade, sure, but I wouldn't be going early on a SPP/Barrett. Myers hasn't been that impressive

      • Daizy says:

        Gotta pick up the good cows when they present.
        Myers is a non negotiable this week for mine

  8. judd0 says:

    Thoughts would be appreciated:

    Otten to Myers via DPP
    WHE to Heeney

    Option 2:
    Otten to Laird
    SPP to Myers

    I personally like option 1 as I think holding Powell Pepper will help me through the byes and he will make a little more coin, as well as Heeney still being cheap and WHE starting to lose cash.

    Option 2 does slightly suit my bye structure better and probably has a better points generation. However I can get Laird in later down the track.

    • wightyswarriors says:

      juddo, how do you get otten to myers via dpp ???

    • Lazza says:

      Option 2 … though I suspect you have better options than SPP (BE 54 / AV 68)… he is still earning and if you can bench him for the bye he would be a good cover for the remaining byes … then trade him out R14..

  9. HallyMate says:

    If I go Marchbank to Dusty and Hannan to Myers this week my team will be:
    Def- Laird, Adams, Howe, Lloyd, Rance, Newman (EVW, Stewart)
    Mid- Danger, Titchell, Fyfe, Treloar, Dusty, Murphy, Bont, Barrett (Myers, Fisher, Pickett)
    Ruck- SandiWitts (Strnadica)
    Fwd- Dahlhaus, Macrae, Yeo, Franklin, Nank, Steele (Balic, Parsons)
    16 trades and 160k in the bank
    How does this compare to where a team should be at this stage of the season? Thanks

    • jez_m says:

      Looks good to me – you've only really got two rookie upgrades to do on field plus a few mid-pricers after that.

    • Joe. says:

      You are BURNING through the trades. Be careful.

      • HallyMate says:

        The way I see it joe is it's okay to burn trades as long as they're not wasted, only need 1 more downgrade to upgrade last 2 onfield rookies leaving 13 trades for injury and underperformers

    • Travo says:

      Looks about right, I see you have used a lot of trades. What's your overall ranking?

      • HallyMate says:

        sitting at 134th, been as high as 23rd

        • Joe. says:

          And you asked "How does this compare to where a team should be at this stage of the season?"


    • Kev says:

      Like the quick upgrade, HM. I'd hold off trading now until at least round 11. Target Sloane, his price will drop in a big way

      • HallyMate says:

        that was the plan Kev! But now his inability to handle a tag has scared me off a little

    • whatyasmokin says:

      Marchbank BE only 47, not a big fan.

    • redherringfc says:

      Assuming Newman has bought himself a few weeks, you'd probably put Marchbank on the bench, so there isn't much point holding him any longer. Hannan is a shot duck. I can't fault your trades.

      Contrary to what some say, if i was in your position i'd still continue to upgrade/downgrade when the rookies look to max out or just to fix that Parsons problem.

    • Top Gun says:

      Thanks for making us all feel crap about our teams. Lol

  10. Steeeve says:

    Take a donut with Witts? Can't swing Nank. Only option would be R3 Preuss to Strnadica. Which would mean another round of Parsons/Hannan/Balic dropping turds in my forward line instead of bringing in a forward premo. Thoughts?

    • INPieman says:

      I have the same issue. It's a tough one. I don't want to get rid of Witts. Going up to another ruckman doesn't seem to have enough worth. He's kicking ass for what we paid for him. I also don't want to get rid of Preuss. But it will mean a donut. Don't know Steeeve. I certainly know how you feel

      • Harry H says:

        I'm copping the donut as don't want to get rid of Witts. I have it on good authority B Scott made the fair ultimatum to Preuss that if he can total 200 hitouts to advantage and kick 12 in the twos each week he'll be strongly considered

    • Derek says:

      If Preuss not named this week that is it for him

    • Babo says:

      As I expected to do so, Witts needs to be upgraded. Who is the best option is the real question…

      • whatyasmokin says:

        Witts doesn't need to be upgraded, you'll be upgrading him just to score well in round 9, when your trade in ruck will be out in a later round anyway.

      • Top Gun says:

        Liking Goldie at this stage.

    • Goat says:

      Pruess is in my team long term. Saving him for a rainy day. Nothing compelling in the ruck to warrant attention for just 1 Rd.

  11. iLoveNMFC says:

    Thoughts community?

    SPP to Myers


    Hannan to J Kelly or Martin

    • Jimmy says:

      I recommend you don't go for kelly, great player but not a top ten mid IMO. Rather go for someone proven of similar price like JPK.
      Just my thoughts

    • Ja191 says:

      I'd hold SPP, still a bit more $ to make and should be useful through the bye rounds. and you'd much prefer a JPK/Crips/Selwood eg then Kelly. Martin should be good too

      • iLoveNMFC says:

        I've got JPK, Selwood is under an injury cloud and Cripps can be a little up and down sometimes.

  12. LoganJosh7 says:

    RIP this community convincing me to trade newman when he wasnt named.

    oh supercoach

    • Derek says:

      I was told to keep him another week by our friends here, was told to get rid of Hampton instead. Pretty happy about that advice

    • Daizy says:

      Make a decision on ur own.
      Too many rely on people to make crystal ball decisions for them then get upset when the advice doesn't come off.

      • whatyasmokin says:


      • LoganJosh7 says:

        oh relax ya babies – im more deploring supercoach in general. besides the people who complain that our scores arnt similar to DT scores are way worse 😉

    • whatyasmokin says:

      lol who told you to trade out newman?

    • FCAbel says:

      Should gave held him. He did really well

    • Top Gun says:

      I don't remember pushing your trade button??

  13. jimbo says:

    First trade is Hampton to Myers via Berry but am not to sure with who to upgrade Butler to?
    OPTION 1: Butler>Macrae leaving $130k
    OPTION 2: Butler>Stef via Nank leaving 170k
    OPTION 3: Butler to Goldy via Nank.
    Stef and Goldy have bottomed out this round and will most likely smash their BE's as goldy plays melbourne.
    On the other hand macrae is steady and it doesnt look like his price will be fluctuating too much.
    Should i go bang to a ruck now or bring in macrae for some consistency, team is travelling decently at this stage.

    • Jack says:

      Buy low, sell high. McRae is a must have forward indeed, but keep a lookout for a poorer game from him and a price fall. The money you save by going to Stef Martin now may come in handy when bringing McRae in later whereas Martin's price will rise from here on out.

      It's that reason that I'm opting for Heeney this week over McRae.

    • redherringfc says:

      Sauce looks the real deal, at 510k, might not be this low again.

  14. Wellsey says:

    While Hampton and Otten are getting a game, I'm holding. They'll even out at between $300 – $370k with their poxy average and can be downgraded when an appropriate option presents or upgraded to a called premium with $100-$150k. With my shot at the $50k all but knackered, I'm saving trades for a late run at my cash league. Just need to scrape into finals. Plan to have enough trades and bankroll to cover the ensuing resting drama that is certain to come my way.

  15. INPieman says:

    Can anyone recall a better rookie performance? I can't recall a rookie ever cracking 150. If horse doesn't pick him this week I'll be paying his a personal visit. That was a masterclass. It came from 77% TOG. Which means he sat on the pine for 1/4 of the game. Absolutely astonishing

    • iLoveNMFC says:

      Cripps’ 172 a few years ago was decent.

      • INPieman says:

        Ah yes in New Zealand. I'll pay that. But it was his 2nd season. He played 3 games in his first season & entered that season at an inflated rookie price. But boy was he worth it

      • Kim says:

        It was but wasn't his first season so doesn't count in my book as a rookie

    • Derek says:

      I think Oxley might have gone 150

    • Travo says:

      Yeah I agree, he does everything right for SC. Kick to handball ratio is great as is Disposal Efficiency and marks from opposition kicks quiet often. I think he might end up being a keeper.

      • Filthy Phil says:

        Hopefully he's a keeper in Horse's eyes too as that's the only coach that really matters. If he drops him this week with Rampe expected back I'm likely to lash out at the nearest object, be it living or inanimate, so hopefully my kids keep their distance Thursday night!

        • INPieman says:

          Rampe still listed as 2 weeks. Most of the media plays supercoach. Surely someone will ask horse what he thought of Newman's game. I guess we might learn more after that. I'm not confident he holds his place long term. One thing is for sure Newman has a game that champion data rates. Last week he scored 154 in the NEAFL. This week 151 in the AFL. He is a scoring beast

    • Steeeve says:

      What about Connor Menadue's 130-odd from last year? That was like Ablett scoring 500,000

    • Bells says:

      Surely Barlow put in a few similar ones his first year.
      But that was timed beautifully for me. I beat the No1 and No2 in both my leagues thanks to he and Sam Reid going ballistic.

    • lok says:

      Barlow, Cripps and Zorko were the best rookie picks from memory.

    • Top Gun says:

      What about Dawson's 150 score across 10 games 😛

    • pod says:

      Agree Pieman, it was one of the best ever. Horse must play him every game.

  16. Zach says:

    My team as it is
    Ranked 11,000 with 20k leftover
    Simpson, Williams, laird (Stewart)
    Adams, marchbank, Newman (Hampton)

    Danger, Hanners, treloar, t.mitchell
    Selwood, Fyfe, Powell-Pepper, taranto
    (Fisher, Barrett, Pickett)

    Grundy, Sandilands

    Franklin, McRae, Dalhaus
    Nankervis, Roughead, Hoskin Elliot
    (Parsons, Eddy)

    What trades this week help me out

    • Matze says:

      Depends how many trades youve got up your sleeve? Hampton needs the boot but just him out doesn't give you much coin to play with. youll probably have to double down with pretty much zero def rooks on the bubble. You could bring in mcniece and trade Pickett out for Myers? I'd be stuck too!

      Alternatively you could trade out Hampton and WHE and that gives you 680k ish to spend on maybe heeney/yeo and a rookie or doch and a rook??

      Or just one trade Hampton down to anyone playing in defence.

  17. Filthy Phil says:

    What the fark is up with bloody Joel Selwood? I traded the prick in for $600K a fortnight ago thinking he was going to get going and also help me with my bye structures and he's now leaking cash like a sieve and will probably be below $500K soon. Should've got Yeo in instead when I had the chance who is already priced more than Selwood now. 🙁

    • Derek says:

      ankle clearing a problem

    • INPieman says:

      Selwood picked up a leg injury the previous week & really battled to get up for the game. He was hampered. What concern me more is his team. They look rubbish when Selwood & Danger aren't firing. No one steps up

      • Holty says:

        True. Same can be said for the Crows. Its all good for their young midfield to be firing when up by 10 goals but very concerning when it gets tough and they seem to run scared from the contest. Sloane is their engine room. He seems to be their only tough nut in the contest so shut him down and bye bye Adelaide. Pyke i think needs a 2nd game plan when Sloane is tagged as they are getting beat up in congestion.

        • INPieman says:

          Great point Holty. Tag the crap out of Sloane & your more than half a chance. It's happened the last 2 weeks

        • FCAbel says:

          Bring in one if those Champion SANFL rookies and save us all Pike

    • Mystic Mac says:

      I'm in the same boat Phil. He'll come good though.

    • DavidSA says:

      SuperCoach 101 trade in

      Never pay more than 550k for anyone (bring in fallen prices not inflated) Now I get to look at him for about 100k cheaper and miss his crap scores too.

      My last 2 paint the fence weeks netted me Franklin 444k last week and Kelly 504k this week.

      Btw this year we need to pick up players even cheaper. People who did not start with Bont or Doch need to be aware that if your happy pay 600k it will Squeeze your cash and variety of choices for the next Upgrade.

      • Lazza says:

        Bonts should be slightly cheaper after his bye – under $600k, but no where near $550k unfortunately.

      • whatyasmokin says:

        You have to be 'happy' to pay premium for the best players though or you fall behind.

        Bont started at 586K and doesn't look like falling below that, and you miss his scoring all year, same with Docherty.

        • Moustachio says:

          Same with Gawn, Danger, Pendles and NRoo?

          • whatyasmokin says:

            Last year yep. You can't anticipate who will drop form, get injured etc.

            If you wait for players to drop below 550K to get them just accept you will not have the best players every year, simple.

      • FCAbel says:

        Been waiting nearly one and a half seasons for doc. Still waiting.

    • Loop says:

      The previous week he was on about 70 points at half time then got injured. I had the C on him. I've had him from the start and he was good in the early rounds. You have nothing to complain about – I bought in the "fallen premo" Pendlebury, thats worked well.

    • Rob says:

      That's why you never start Selwood or pay top dollar for him. Invariably every season something goes wrong and you can almost always pick him up around the byes for around $500K. Anyone who has played supercoach for more than a few years knows this and hey presto it's proving true yet again.

      • Derek says:

        he will play no matter what, i'm not a Geelong fan, but i admire the way selwood plays. He has always been one of the first picked in my team. Even though he has only scored 75, it was amazing he even played. goes to show, when selwood is down, geelong are down

      • whatyasmokin says:

        Yep I never lock in Selwood, it can backfire as he scores big sometimes but has bad lows.

  18. bUCKET__ says:

    Goldy vs Pederson is looking delicious after seeing how many hitouts Jacobs ate up this weekend. Welcome to my side, you underpriced horndog!

    • INPieman says:

      74 hit outs to 22 was a slaying. Makes the Dees win all the more impressive. My concern with Goldy is opposition with good midfields shark him. He doesn't have a great midfield under his feet & so I can't see those massive scores we have seen in the past. Nonetheless you raise a good point

    • Just Jeff says:

      All those poor sods who traded out Goldy early in the season must be hating life right now. With Preuss nowhere to be seen now and Waite back this week it's the prime time to pounce on Goldy. Also has a useful round 12 bye for the cherry on top.

      • INPieman says:

        I traded Goldy out when he was about to crash in price & Preuss looked like a perma selection. But I did use the Goldy money to get MacRae & Hanners. I'm not upset with that. Now I could get Goldy back cheap

  19. SCDamien says:

    How seriously can we take Walters?

    • INPieman says:

      Oh boy. Now that is a ballsy pick. Relying on Ross to look after you & keep him in that role all season is the ultimate balls out call. You are really temping the gods here. If he goes back forward you can look forward to the 28 scores like he did the week before the 2 tonnes. Good luck

    • whatyasmokin says:

      Oh crap………

    • FCAbel says:

      Should make decent cash at worst if he goes fwd when Hill returns.


    Anyone else got the Witts dilemma this week?
    If Pruess isn't named then I'm think of going straight up to an underpriced Goldy or maybe even Ryder, two tonnes in a row and creates a dpp link with Nank in the forward line?
    Thoughts? Keeping in mind I'm not keen on copping a donut.

  21. Boltons Blues says:

    What the flaming hell do with do with the spud treloar?
    If he isn't selected I've considering trading him down to Myers, and using the cash to upgrade either, Butler, Balic, Parsons, pending selection

    • whatyasmokin says:

      Ditched him last week his injury was the perfect excuse.

    • redherringfc says:

      he'll be back and hopefully score like we know he can. I'm holding for a couple of weeks if necessary. I won't make full premo if i waste trades like that.

      • whatyasmokin says:

        Using trades and wasting trades are two very different things.

      • Moustachio says:

        You won't make full premo if you hold onto non-premos

        • Frank the Tank says:

          JPK showed on the weekend why you hold onto your premiums. Hold.

  22. DavidSA says:

    I dont have Pendles but what are season long holders gonna do?
    Guys gonna drop down to 525k most likely the next two games he plays which is insane.

    Sideways trading to generate cash might be a good option players like

    Scully especially – very cheap has not hit the tonnes too much but is in the 90's heaps and will generate most cash by the sideways downgrade in price.

    But of course the above is just one option, hold him or not is a defining moment for people with him

    • DavidSA says:

      Scully 3 90's and 3 100's and will net you 83k in bank

    • INPieman says:

      Can't trade Pendles unless he's injured. The signs are very worrying. He's lost pace & can't escape contests the way he has for a decade. It's like watching Superman not being able to fly. He's also carrying a bad case of baby brain. Happens with your first child. For owners I think we can only suck it up & hope things change. If Pendles was in half decent form the Pies would have won that game by 5 goals. But he isn't. In fact that was the worst game if ever seen him play. Much worse than Anzac day. But if you start sideways trading premos you run out of bullets quickly

    • whatyasmokin says:


    • Top Gun says:

      Trading Pendles is like trading Yabletttttttt. You just don't do it!

    • Dogs says:

      Hold, his value means nothing. Had him from the start, will only trade if LTI

  23. Bitta says:

    I think its time for Matty Crouch to go, just wont be top 10, so would going up to Merrett be a good pick?

    • DavidSA says:

      not a bad trade
      A guy who is 50k cheaper in Martin might be the pick of the week if looking to upgrade in the guts

    • whatyasmokin says:

      Merrett all the way.

  24. Paco says:

    would i be too late on berry?

    • DavidSA says:

      I think so bud

    • Dnoyes says:

      He probably won't make too much cash. I think he'll get to about 300,000. He does however have very good job security and is a useful dpp player. Might be helpful for your team structures, especially with the byes coming up.

    • Cpt Pugwash says:

      Not at all. With all the great options about (insert sarcasm).

      I'd say he'll be on the paddock til seasons end. Safe.

      Better than burning a trade on a 3-4 game rookie then he's dropped for the rest of the season.

      It's pay overs season for secure rookies people.

  25. DavidSA says:

    Just a practice 2 trades atm

    Butler > Walters
    Marchbank > Hibberd

  26. Dice says:

    can someone inform me of the story involving Mark Murphy and St Kilda??
    i know they got stuck into him but im hearing somehow Wayne Carey is involved?
    surely hasn't done something stupid again.

    • red says:

      I read that Jake Carlisle did a a family related sledged to Murphy.
      Murphy then gave him a ear full when him was on the ground.
      Jarryn Geary then saw that without knowing the fall story and had a go at Murphy which caused the all in.
      I've never heard such booing before by the Saints supporters against Murphy.
      Goes to show you need to get a better idea of whats happened before you make a jugement on someone.

      • Holty says:

        You would have to think what was said would be well below the belt for Smurph to even say anything. He is normally one of the fairest players in the game so for him to react, it is very surprising

    • Cpt Pugwash says:

      I didn't say anything about Murphy's Mrs. I just thought it.

      Bang Bang!

  27. Winter says:

    SPP to Merrett
    WHE to Stef Martin

    Other trade is Otten to Myers

    • Finnius123 says:

      depends on bye structure. SPP will carry you through the byes though and probably still has more cash to make than WHE – stef is a guaranteed number one in his position.

  28. Craig says:

    Well if ever there was a year to run a midpriced setup this was certainly the season to do it. Not only have we seen perhaps the most abysmal ensemble of rookies in supercoach history but so many of our ultra premos have failed to perform anywhere near their initial price point. Eevery season we have our fair share of fallen premos I know but nothing like this. In fact so shocking have some of ultra premos been that we are actually preferring to hold trades rather than upgrade the likes of Jones, Marchbank, Steele, Witts, Sandi that we would usually do without thinking in years past.

    • draw16 says:

      Not necessarily the year of the midpricer. Yes there have been success stories (like every season), but there have also been your JOM, DSwallow and Roughy to give you a headache. Disclaimer: I started with all 3 mentioned and have burnt trades getting them out. It all depends on your starting selections at Round 1 lockout.

      • whatyasmokin says:

        Compared to other years it's the year of the mid pricers.

        Guns and rookie strategy has failed, had to see it coming though at the start of the year.

        A majority of the popular mid price picks have succeeded, not failed. You just picked them wrong.

      • Randomcliche2 says:

        Its tough, but I think the ratio of outperforming midpricer to gun premo from the year prior is way down. Which makes it easy to think that people who picked the right strategy would pick a great team. I also think people didn't pay enough attention to the 200-400k players given the prevalence and success of previous GnR strategies. In hindsight, you probably only needed 6 full blown premos (Doc + Adams (perhaps Laird), a couple of younger mid guns like Titch/Bont/Mitchell, plus Dahl and McCrae with a team filled out with the likes Yeo, Higgins, Steele, Witts (okay a rookie), Sandi, Murphy, Oliver, even Beams till injury, Robertson, Lloyd, and you'd be living the dream. But you're right. It's not easy picking a mid priced madness team. My midpriced madness league is doing okay 446/25k, but not smashing it, there are 2 who are around the 1k rank. Not enough Murphy/Oliver/Yeo action for serious out-performance.

    • Derek says:

      the rookies i understand. the last 5 years we have been blessed with Suns, GWS, Essendon, even Port having a heap of rookies who have scored well.

      The Guns have been hard to pick. As Carlos says, it is the changing of the Guard.

      I just had a look and i have only 4 out of the top 20 highest averaging players for 2017 to date. I guess my Premiums are all still from the Old School. Still along way to go and i'm certain the Hard Nut, warhorses will still prevale over the young colts

      • neil demons delight says:

        Zac Dawson's left foot snap nominated for goal of the year check it out Derek absolutely brilliant could be a sneaky in maybe

        • Derek says:

          mate i've already seen it, i'm all over it. he has been held back as a defender.

  29. INPieman says:

    Treloar owners. One thing I noticed in the GWS game was the significant improvement & functionality of the Pies forward line with Ben Reid in it. For the first time in a long time it looked dangerous. If Reid stays there (but who knows the genius Buckley) Treloar's scoring will improve out of sight. Hold him

    • David says:

      Good point Pie although it won't count for sh1t is his groin is f*cked. If he doesn't play this week and Collingwood are again coy on his injury then plenty will move him on for one of the plethora of quality fallen premos we have right now.

      • INPieman says:

        Treloar doesn't even tell football clubs when he has groin surgery

        • neil demons delight says:

          when are the pies going to dump Buckley.Surely enough enough he;s simply rubbish and the team suffers. . why wasn't someone front and centre to stop SJ under 10's stuff

          • INPieman says:

            I've been wanting rid of Buckley for years. He's no good. Eddie's pride is the problem

            • neil demons delight says:

              and buckleys brain not the problem how long has he got pies The team is quite good really and losses have been by small margins

            • Top Gun says:

              Buckley is Eddies love child

          • Scott says:

            That's not Buckley's fault you clown. He's not out there with 20 seconds on the clock to ensure there's a man goal side of Stevie J. That's the players fault. They did that. They kick 20 behinds every week. They turn the ball over. Stop blaming Buckley. The pies kick straight this year and there wouldn't be a discussion about Buckley at all.

    • whatyasmokin says:

      Possibly. But let's face it he's been crap. He got injured. Should've lopped his head off and moved on already……….

    • Jim_bob321 says:

      Ben Reid out for 4-5 weeks bud

      • JoeD says:

        Fark it Treloar is dead to me now! Can't stand to watch the Butcher of Baghdad ply his trade anymore and with no one to kick to now it will be clanger central again. 🙁

    • Thomas says:

      Ben Reid out for a month with a quad injury…..

  30. Curious George says:

    Any news on treloar and his "ankle" injury?

  31. Babo says:

    This is one of those seasons where anything can happen. . .

    It would not surprise me to see 5 new names at the top of the overall score for the season this year.

    • Geoff B says:

      The byes are going to be a huge sorter of the wheat from the chaff. All those coaches at the top of the sand heap right now who have been side swapping premos, had little regard for their bye structures and have sh1tty benches full of non playing rookies will get found out massively over the next month.

    • DavidSA says:

      The big 3 I like to call is is Oliver, Yeo and Steele if you started with all 3 your flying

  32. Jay says:

    What about Dusty? Should be back to some form soon

    • Kev says:

      Tiges will get reamed by GWS this week. He loves the Dreamtime clash though, have a look at him then

  33. Jim_bob321 says:

    How u like these trades
    WHE – James Stewart
    SPP – Josh Kelly

    • Kev says:

      If you have an extra 16k in the bank get Cripps in. I may be wrong but I see Kelly as the main beneficiary of GWS' huge injury list at the moment

      • Travo says:

        Disagree Kev. Kelly has been consistent all year and since Conigilio came back into the midfield Kelly has looked even more solid.

        • whatyasmokin says:

          If he didn't just get a 150 you wouldn't be saying this surely.

          Nobody was talking about him last week.

          • Jim_bob321 says:

            Lowest score of 92 mate, has been very consistent, just hasn't peaked dramatically like others
            He was always in contention of getting picked just not PROVEN yet, until now bud

            • whatyasmokin says:

              Great player, but top mid from here on? Highly doubtful.

            • whatyasmokin says:

              After checking season rankings he is very high up, good pick but not really proven. Will probably be a lock come 2018……..

              • Jim_bob321 says:

                Coniglio gone for couple months! Could either play in the hands of Kelly or not… Maybe could increase his UP

                • whatyasmokin says:

                  Doesn't hurt him that's for sure. Great pick but there's so many fallen premo mids it's incredibly hard to pick. makes things interesting this season though.

                  • Jim_bob321 says:

                    Very interesting… these decisions will either make or break our seasons.
                    Thinking about it, in order for other clubs to increase their offers for Josh Kelly….. he'll need to play better

  34. Lyndon says:

    What's going on With Gazza? Owned him from the start and was so close to rage trading him when he chucked up that insipid effort against GWS. Then he pumped out that double ton a few weeks ago and I thought the old Gazza was back. But since then he can't ton up even though he seems to be getting enough of it. Why do Champion Data all of a sudden hate him? Not sure who is frustrating me the most out or Pendles, Grundy, Shaw or Gazza. It's hard to post a competitive total each week when so many of my full priced premos can't or won't ton up.

    • LoganJosh7 says:

      on the wkend he was defs putting the effort in… no other midfielders got near it however. had no help.

    • Kev says:

      There's been a big crackdown on contested/uncontested ball, Lyndon. Cheap, sideways kicks/handballs do not register points. When Gaz scored that 210 he had 27 contested possessions. Against Geelong and Port he had 6 and 7 respectively

      • INPieman says:

        Noticed the same thing Kev. He's not damaging with his ball use either & as a result he isn't scoring. After that Danger tackle he's gone back into his shell for contested stuff. Danger really hurt him

  35. Benjamin B says:

    Merrett, Kelly, Titch or Dusty (Bye Friendly)?

    • Ja191 says:

      Merrett, kids a gun. Brought him in last week put the C on him.. didn't disappoint — Titch also a good option but i like the price of merrett

  36. Sam says:

    Otten, Hampton, Butler, Parsons.. Which of these should I be upgrading (or possibly downgrading) first?

    • Kev says:

      I'd cash in Otten. You'll make the most from him. Lost almost 16k this week. With a b..e of 88 and a 3 round average of 62 it's time for him to go.

    • whatyasmokin says:

      Otten and Hampton should both be gone by this week. One should've gone last week, people are taking way to long to cull.

      I'm not sure why people still have Treloar………….

      • Steeeve says:

        Because he's a premo. He's had a poor start but he stormed home last year. The rest will do him some good and he'll storm home again.

        At least I hope so.

        Not enough money being made from rookies to take a huge loss on a premo who could turn out to be a keeper.

      • Thomas says:

        Its hard to cull Hampton when there are no rookie defenders on the bubble, and many don't have the cash to upgrade him. I guess there was EVW but he didnt look very promising at the time

  37. INPieman says:

    Just been on the phone with a mate of mine who's a blood brother at the Swans. Rampe has been training for 2 weeks & expected to line up this weekend. Brace yourselves

    • Curly says:

      Thursday night 6:25pm – Swans team sheet just in:

      IN Rampe OUT Newman

      Thursday night 6:26pm Jock Reynolds website
      "FUUUUUUUUUCK U HORSE!!!!!!!!!!!"

      • INPieman says:

        It's going to be a BARRAGE of abuse Curly. A never before seen barrage

        • Neville says:

          Lekdog's cheatsheet comments could be littered with profanities even more so than usual. 🙂

    • Jack says:

      God I hope Newman is dropped.

    • Babo says:

      Wont they find room for the man who played so well? At someone else's expense..

      • INPieman says:

        You'd think so. But don't forget Horse didn't like Tom Mitchell either. Just because we think he's good means nothing to Horse

    • Derek says:

      I think Mcveigh will miss this week

    • Curious George says:

      No way they would drop him after that game
      McVeigh got injured again rampe will replace him

    • Juzzy says:

      Considering Newman does seem to have Tom Mitchell disease all Newman owners can hope for is that he has …

      No conversations with Horse this week, no eye contact, no sudden movements etc …

      If so he should be fine.

      • Nutsack says:

        If he does drop him then we know he must have had sloppy seconds with Horse's daughter right after Titch had finished with her.

  38. Rivo says:

    Any thoughts please here Community?

    • Jim_bob321 says:

      I like it mate but SPP still has some cash in him… if i were u i'd wait till teams are announced like me. you dont know, anyone has a possibility of getting named

  39. Jono says:

    Butler to sauce Jacobs or wait another week for Grundy? Or even godly? Stef doesn't suit my by structure and don't think big boy can keep it up…thoughts?

    • Derek says:

      Big Boy has been great. Had a very nice run. I had to get him on the Free Agent list in my draft team when Max went down. he has been sensational. Classic case of him becoming a LONE Wolf. had that pesky Hale and Ceglar sharing with him past few years.

  40. Captain Risky says:

    Bye Planning… Struggling with round 11.

    Looking at this week OUT Hannan & Pruess ,IN Myers & Rance
    Next week OUT Marchbank & Williamson IN Dusty & McInnes (Hopefully)

    That will leave me with at best 17 players for Round 11 byes. No issues with round 12/13 .

    Do we get 3 trades next week??

  41. Tommo09 says:

    Tom Lynch villain?
    29 points

    • The Stare says:

      The Villians are Gold Coast Execs

    • Steeeve says:

      Villain is the round 9 bye. I have to wait an extra week for his price to bottom out now. And then welcome my team.

  42. Tommo09 says:

    Rookies this week???
    Anyone other than Myers??

    • The Stare says:

      Only Myers

      • Tommo09 says:

        McNiece if he plays??

        • Sputnik says:

          Wouldn't expect so Tommo, not after the Bombers pulled off an upset win against the Cats who they had been their b1tch over the past decade. So wouldn't expect many changes by Woosh to mess with that new successful recipe especially for a young rookie who hasn't really done that much in his first two games. That's why coaches needed to do downgrades the past few weeks as this bubble boy wasteland was pretty much anticipated.

    • Derek says:

      tap…..tap….. is this on?

    • INPieman says:


    • Macka says:

      <crickets chirping>

  43. Crimewave says:

    Traded out Otten to Myers via DPP and Houston to Oliver but any suggestions for other mids, what are we thinking about with Dusty and Kennedy against Oliver?

    • whatyasmokin says:

      You really gonna get Oliver over JPK?

      I have both but it would seem fairly wise to get JPK who is proven over many years for 20K less.

    • The Stare says:

      Look at the fallen Premiums over what may become a flash in the pan

  44. The Stare says:

    SC LAW – What are the SC rules during the bye rounds? And do these rules apply next week considering Port and GCoast have the bye?

    • Derek says:

      we just have to suck it up this week. no changes to the rules for this week.

    • Sheldon says:

      That's why many coaches in the know didn't start GC or Port keepers as they knew this day would come. They instead make the perfect upgrade sides over the next 2-3 weeks with the likes of Wines, Wingard, Lynch, May, Harbrow etc all potential additions on our shopping lists in the next few weeks as they have nice draws during the main byes (11-13) where they provide full cover.

      • Randomcliche2 says:

        I went early on one given I've got full cover on that line. But yes, planning to bring in a few of that crew I think will help immensely, problem is there just so many SC 'issues' from those two teams (such as Gray/Ablett, commendably not explicitly on your list above) I think people will need to be ultra considerate about the balance between rnd 9 and non-round 9 players.

      • Derek says:

        Ryder and Wingard are on my watchlist.

  45. FCAbel says:

    Option 3 if you can find a cheaper cow. Maybe mcniece? Can you use dpp to get Hampton to Myers? Alternatively forget Heeney and find another premo to bring in with Myers which will fit trade.

    • Jim_bob321 says:

      That's why we gotta wait till teams are named. Who knows of McNiece will get named, sadly got rested and never got picked again

    • Rivo says:

      Thanks FC.
      Not keen on McNiece, poor JS. Think Option 1 is better as Myers looks a good get, Heeney on the up, and I don't have a DPP def to make that happen…

      D: Doc, Laird, Simpson, Shaw, Marchbank, Hampton (EVW, Stewart) .

  46. Joshua says:

    SPP to Myers
    Otten to Adams

    • The Stare says:

      do it dude Adams is a must

      • Joshua says:

        yeah he is absolutely flying, started Shaw and Doc then decided Laird over Adams. Heath is killing me!

      • Finnius123 says:

        proceed with caution – look at team lists r.e. injury before jumping on the bus

  47. Jugger says:

    How many
    weeks is Rockliff out for?

    • Sauce says:

      Probs 2 weeks but then has a r11 bye so should be right r12 I'm holding

      • Derek says:

        i heard them say two weeks. Seems not enough for a dislocated shoulder. then Lions have Round 11 bye, see him in round 12 would be amazing.

    • whatyasmokin says:

      Being highest ranked SC scorer he is a hold.

    • Reality Check says:

      Sadly he has to go I'd say. Can't hold an ultra premo for that long unless you don't give a stuff about rank. Not having surgery I gather so very likely it will pop out again and this time coaches might not be so lucky as fortunately it happened right at the end of the game this time around. Could easily pop out in the opening minutes in his next game in round 12 or whenever he actually comes back.

      • Jim_bob321 says:

        Fellas his shoulder popped back in immediately, meaning he will be on the sideline for a couple weeks at MAX…..

        • BigBoyBananana says:

          Not necessarily true Jim, all depends on structural damage. The fact it popped in straight away is very positive though! #PrayForRocky

  48. Mark says:

    Who would you choose out of Oliver, Priddis, dusty, or yeo (would put parsons on bench)

  49. Jim_bob321 says:


  50. Jim_bob321 says:


  51. Jeff says:

    Any good premo forwards that will be consistent over the year other than macrae, dahl, Nank, Kennedy, YEO?

  52. John says:

    Any downgrade options for Butler that will play?

    • Ja191 says:

      McInnes for eagles 155k def-forward. only played the one game with 67.. apart from that Parsons – kids gonna finish averaging 150

  53. Andy says:

    Tom Mitchell or JPK?

  54. Tyruddanaut says:

    Leave now pendles get out of my team
    Of course there's a time for all legendary players to come to a fall and with behavior like his on the weekend, when he pretended to leave, I would say "Pendles, have a week off"

    With his child coming around his score is going to drop miles. It's not only the sleepless nights but the confidence too.
    My grandfather was in the field, he also is a Vietnam veteran, but when he had my mother, he changed to the other side of the police force that you don't see in movies.
    Pendles won't go into contests as hard and won't play like he should. Stay away for the rest of the season.

    It time that I trade him out only lost me 20k so I'll be happy to boot him. Trading savvy is what this game is about, not waiting until they are so pathetic a brick wall will be better.
    I'm predicting this big fall and saying goodbye to the man

    • Steeeve says:

      Seems a tad presumptive. Hold.

      • Marcus says:

        Traded him in 2 weeks ago. Sums up my trades this year pretty well

        • Just Jeff says:

          You weren't alone Marcus. Plenty of us were sucked in at exactly that point. All the podcasts were raving about his past average against the Blues and considering he was $70K cheaper than his starting price it appeared to be the optimal time to get him in. I think folks are over reacting a little though. The Giants generally do a number on the fantasy scores of their opposition. Wouldn't surprise if he bounced back this week against the Hawks who bleed plenty of points themselves, just ask all the happy Saints owners last week.

          • Just Jeff says:

            Well other than Nroo owners lol!

          • Tyruddanaut says:

            Forget about team history. This is his personal situation

            • Marcus says:

              Jeff at least you didn't trade goldy to grundy. Has got to be my worst trade ever

              • Keith says:

                Yep you're the Lone Ranger their pal. That's what listening to Jock gets ya. He'd been selling Grundy to anyone who would listen.

          • Derek says:

            I posted below. Look at his games coming up

    • Alan says:

      Geez some people really have no idea how to play SuperCoach. No wonder my ranking typically soars in the 2nd half each season as so many of the pretenders fall away with moves like this.

      • Zach says:

        It's certainly a good way to run out of trades like all those pathetic teams you see at the end of the season with a bunch of injured premos because their trade well ran dry weeks ago with all the sideways trades they "thought" made sense at the time.

    • Derek says:

      I was actually looking to get him. He has 6 of the next 7 games at MCG against teams that Collingwood can beat: Hawks, Lions, Freo, Melb, Port, Essendon and Suns.

      Has a round 13 bye.

      Will be under $530k next week.


      • dSaSPatSfcB says:

        Collingwood couldn't beat a drum with a wooden leg.

      • Tyruddanaut says:

        Collingwood were meant to smash Carlton. Look how that turned out. I was watching talking footy last night and they said that it is one of the closest seasons ever. Anyone can win on any given day

        • Derek says:

          every season is the same. each week we have a new Flag Favorite. i remember last year, literally every week the experts had a new flag favorite.

      • JohndJames says:

        Melbourne has won the last three againts the pies by five goals or more.

  55. SF4 says:

    Isaac Heeney or Stef Martin.

    Only problem with trading in Heeney is that I will have 4 premos out in Rd 11, Dahl, Buddy and Macrae.

  56. Tyruddanaut says:

    I would like to add, completely different point, the unpredictability of SuperCoach
    The team of the week will be written like normal and the (top team of average will be in brackets)

    Def: Newman, Doch, Hurley, Laird, Hurn, McDonald-Tipungwuti
    (Def: Doch, Laird, Adams, Roberton, Lloyd, Harbrow)
    2 of 6 are the same – Doch and Laird

    Mid: Cripps, Rocky, Kelly, Oliver, Zerrett, JPK, Billings, Titch
    (Mid: Rocky, Bont, Neale, Sloan, Murphy, Oliver, Danger, Titch)
    3 of 8 – Titch, Rocky and Oliver

    Ruck: Jacobs, Martin
    Ruck: (Martin, Nank)
    1 of 2 – Martin

    Fwd: Walters, Billings, Heeney, Reid, Petracca, Cameron
    (Fwd: Yeo, Heeney, Macrae, JJK, Dahl, Pederson)
    1 of 6 – Heeney

    Altogether there are 15 of 22 or about two thirds of players that scored in the top 6 but their average is below.
    I think these options would be safe for choosing but that's not the point of this
    SuperCoach is unpredictable, don't expect to get anything. Expect to get 1500 – 3000 each week
    Who know you might even get more or less

  57. Mystic Mac says:

    Adams was in a moon boot yesterday. Said it was precautionary. Should we be alarmed?

    • SCased says:

      No LOL

    • Finnius123 says:

      yup. Hearing taylor adams and injury in the same sentence are a massive worry. That is the exact reason I didn't bring him in at the start of the year – very similar to rocky….

    • Lazza says:

      Nah, he likes moon boots … 🙂
      He was wearing one the week before the season started… was wearing one this time last year and even trained in one the year before … someone buy him a blanket …

    • Jefferson says:

      Last week everyone was in a tiz over a hand injury at training but he still played and played well. Until teams sheets come out on Thursday I wouldn't be getting your knickers in a knot. There will be plenty of time to panic later. 🙂

  58. Vicki says:

    Thoughts please.

    Trading out Otten
    Best back to bring in please and do you feel any of these will be a top 6 back
    Hibberd, Lloyd, Rance, or Simmo.
    Thank you for your help.

  59. Jack says:

    21 Trades – 128k. Advice re Bye planning and trades this week?
    Shaw, Tuohy, Otten, Newmann, Marchbank, Berry (Hampton, Hibberd)
    Adams, Danger, Pendles, Fyfe, JPK, Macrae, Merrett, Pepper, (Beams, Barrett, Balik)
    Martin, Sandi (Strnadica)
    Nank, Buddy, Roughy, Dahl, Taranto, Butler (Eddy, Parsons)

  60. MichaelQLD says:

    It's a funny ole season. Although some coaches have been unlucky copping some LTIs , so far has been nothing compared to last season where he had injury after injury to popular players. But this year it's been the year of the sucker punch. See some premo who looks ripe for the picking who perhaps has a favourable draw coming up and the minute you get them in they suddenly forget how to play footy or pick up some niggle that puts a handbrake on their scoring. I know there are some exceptions like Yeo, Bont or Doch but that hasn't been the general experience for mnost. Or just as bad get rid of some premo who has been spudding it for weeks on end and the moment you do they post 120+ and then continue pumping out tons after that. It's been frustrating as f*ck if you pardon my french especially when most of our rookies have been laying turd after turd. Haven't scored over 2K in over month dealing with all this sh!t.

  61. Paul says:

    Hi Community

    Thoughts please.
    Option 1: Otten to Hurley
    Option 2: Otten to Rance.

    Thank you.

  62. Adam says:

    SPP>Myers and D.Swallow>Neale

    • Randomcliche2 says:

      Depends whether you can cover the bye players this week….if you can….you'll thank yourself later.

  63. Chris_Judd says:

    Is it too late to bring in Yeo? Have enough money to bring in any forward and already have dahlhaus and Macrae. If it it too late, what are some other options up forward?

    • Danners says:

      Wait a couple of weeks for Yeo to go back down, Heeney looks to be an alright option. If you feel like taking a punt or risky play, maybe have a look at Gunston at $400k.

    • Sputnik says:

      If you want him bad then by all means do it but with cash being super tight this season you will likely pay a price at some point during the season which may mean settling on a quasi premo for your M8, F6, D6 spots. Or perhaps having to keep a guy like WHE, Otten or Marchbank around all season. For me the cutoff is $550K and Yeo now exceeds that threshold so he's a personal no go zone at his current price. In fact I'll preferably be trying to spend under $500K on many of my remaining upgrades if at all possible. Otherwise there is little chance of getting to full premo unless you've nailed most of your rookies and midpricers which most of us haven't.

    • SF4 says:

      I would wait until he drops down to 500k

    • Derek says:

      I watched him on weekend and boy was he lucky to have a decent score. 53 at 3/4 time. Dogs panicked in last quarter and kicked it to a two on one a lot. Yeo was the extra in defence and racked up 7 interceptions. Won't happen every week. Way over priced now.

    • Top Gun says:

      Heeney a must get this week imo 107 average (better than Dahl and McCrae) with a low breakeven of 44. Jump on!

  64. TheGreatBozza says:

    Horror weekend. I had planned on loopholing Berry with Newman but forgot about it as I was too busy watching my Pies… meaning I left Stewart on the field and lost a critical cash league match, while slipping to 20k after being top 5000 two weeks ago. It's been a tough season

  65. Danny says:

    Should i take Rockliff's donut this week?

    • Finnius123 says:

      No. He will be out for at least 2 or 3 weeks. Time to move him on – benefit is that you can get anyone.

    • whatyasmokin says:

      If playing for leagues, yes.

    • Randomcliche2 says:

      I'm considering holding if out till Rnd 12. But we'll know tomoz hopefully what the right course of action is. My substitution list will read like the lions team sheet. In Beams, Out Rockliff.

  66. DefyingMadness says:

    Need help getting rid of some blokes who are going to start bleeding cash.
    Going to keep Witts and sub nank into the rucks. This leaves me with a possible donut if Parsons gets dropped. Probably going to need to paint the fence and bring in a premo. Any suggestions are welcome because I am possibly in a lot of trouble
    Here is my team, also got 120k in the bank and 19 trades remaining. Ranked in the top 5%

    Laird, Adams, Rance,
    Shaw, Marchbank, Otten
    (Hampton, Stewart)

    Danger, Tmitch, Zerret, JPK,
    Fyfe, Treloar, Taranto, SPP
    (Barret, Balic, Berry)

    Sandi, Witts, (Strn)


    Yeo, Macrae, Dahl
    Heeney, Nank, Butler
    (Eddy, Parsons)

    • hjhjhj says:

      out Otten Hampton SPP Dahl Butler

    • Finnius123 says:

      I am trading witts – only to avoid that doughnut and the need to field my spud forward rookies

    • Derek says:

      Eddy to Myers

      • DefyingMadness says:

        So should I just suck up the huge cash loss I will suffer? Hoping that Parsons plays so I don't have to make this trade and can paint the fence and bring in Dusty/ Hanners, however if Parsons is dropped I will have no choice

        • Derek says:

          Fill the donut first. Eddy to Myers. Or Parsons if not named. Via DPP and swing Taranto forward.

  67. Adam says:

    Quick question community.

    T Mitchell or P Cripps??

  68. NickMacMan says:

    Should i be trading out Hannan cause he is shit or WHE to make some extra cash?

    • Captain Risky says:

      Hannan Yes, Can't make cash with him, sure to be dropped, can't risk him on field.

      WHE No idea, probably worth more, couldn't possibly be worse!

      Unfortunately not any viable downgrade options at present.

    • Finnius123 says:

      Keeping WHE onfield will give you at least 45 points extra a week – with hannan certain to be dropped. It really depends who your target is and what the rest of your structure is – if you are leaving hannan on the bench then WHE but if not I would be getting rid of Hannan (the guy is a nigh-on surety to get dropped)

  69. Garry says:

    Is Zorko a good replacement for Rockliff?

    • TBone says:

      I like Zorko a lot, and for his price definitely worth a look. Im considering him, Dusty or waiting to grab Selwood next week.

  70. don says:

    Oliver or JPK?

    • Ja191 says:

      JPK proven, Oliver not but looks a freak. Would go JPK myself but a toss up

    • Finnius123 says:

      No second year player ha averaged consistently over 100 for the entire season. Clayton could very well prove us wrong but JPK is proven and a favourable price.

      • Moustachio says:

        Fyfe. Zorko did it in his first year. Don't spread guesses as fact…

        Fair to say that it is quite rare tho.

    • pod says:


  71. Marcus Proudson says:

    With Adelaide GWS Collingwood and Essendon having a bye in R13, is anyone else looking at this as an absolute nightmare for their defence.!!!! Which players are we looking at to bring in to cover the likes of laird Adams Hurley shaw McGrath Howe not playing

  72. aaron says:

    Best Premo Mids without rd 11 bye besides Kelly, Merrett, Titch and Dusty?

    • TBone says:

      Wines, Ablett, Cotchin, Selwood, Priddis, Goddard, Fyfe, Neale

      • aaron says:

        cheers TBone

      • whatyasmokin says:

        Would go with Neale, Fyfe or priddis out of those guys.

        Wines a burn man. Selwood up and down. Goddard could hit a crap patch anytime. Cotchin is a having a great season but better options at the price.

        • RobDog says:

          Sloane if he can past being tagged, and Ebert is having an outstanding year with his bye next week so plays through the rest.

  73. The gangbanger says:

    G'day community,

    Ranked top 3000, got 18 trades left after using up two now, and 18000 bucks left in the bank. My best bloody start. Be good to see what you guys reckon.

    Check out my team

    Back- Laird, Docerty, Shaw, Rance, Marchbank, Stewart. (Berry and Hibberd on the pine)

    Middle- Danger, Fyfe, Zac Merett, Tom Mitchell, Adams, Haneberry, Yeo, Sam P Pepper (Barret, Balich, and Myers)

    Ruck- Martin and Sandi (stricnica)

    Forward- Kennedy, Dahlhaus, Steele, Buddy, Nankervis, Butler (Parsons and Eddy)

    Be good to get some advice on my side.

    Thanks guys

    • Derek says:

      good team. A bit thin in the guts, only 5 keepers in midfield. Who do you have pencilled in?

      Need MaCrae in fwds is a must.

    • Lazza says:

      Obviously Adams and Yeo will end up in DEF and FWD.
      I have same FWD & RUC except I have Baltic instead of Parsons. I'm looking at Yeo and Macrae to come in.
      Weakness is in DEF imo, you have 3 keepers including Adams and short 3 in the MID … Bont and 2 others..
      I don't think Shaw and Rance will be top 6..

  74. Steve1 says:

    As bad as this season is, i still much rather it then all those seasons with the SUB rule, sucked not knowing if your rookie wold only play 1 quarter.

  75. Neverweaken says:

    Who is a defence rookie to bring in for ottens. Or a forward rookie. Painting the fence but which way?

  76. Pete says:

    Gotta get rid of Butler and Houston but only have $52k in the bank so probably not enough for a premo. Who are the 2 best rooks to bring in this week ?

    • SF4 says:

      Myers, Durdin or McNiece if named. Or you could go early on Lloyd or Stewart but I would advise against doing that.

  77. Don't Blush Baby says:

    Danger or Bont as the VC on Friday Night – Toss a coin me thinks ?

  78. oldmate65 says:

    Is it point chasing to trade in Josh Kelly? Or is he a legitimate POD?

    • SF4 says:

      He is averaging 108.9 so It isn't a bad idea to bring him in.

    • Finnius123 says:

      Not really a POD though as there will be plenty of point chasers. Look at Jelwood or Zerrett as a genuine POD

    • whatyasmokin says:

      He will probably be a champion player but I feel it is point chasing a bit and would lock in fallen premos like JPK, Hannebery and Merrett

  79. Mike says:



    YES OR NO .

    • Finnius123 says:


  80. Finnius123 says:

    This week I am trading Witts and SPP for Zerrett and Myers (Putting Nank in the ruck).

    Before everyone criticises me for not holding them as good cover throughout the byes – I have done some heavy number crunching and I am definitely going to be able to field 18 players for all three bye rounds as long as 2 of my currently playing rookies don't get dropped (excluding Hannan, Marchbank and Fisher whom I shall be trading + 1 extra trade just in case it all goes to rubbish) – which is pretty unlikely.

    Burning Witts means that I do not have to field Parsons or Hannan (both who will probably get dropped), and I get an uber premium midfielder in my side. Trading SPP over Hampton is a tough decision, however I justify it with the fact that I REALLY want Zach merrett and if I want to keep the continuous upgrade process I would be trading SPP before the byes anyways. I don't need him for cover, he has a bye this week, so he has to go. I would otherwise be getting in Taylor Adams for Hampton, however my rookies down the back are the best and I want to have Newman, Berry and co. on field compared to the rest of the rookies for as long as possible – as well as having those rd 11 premium defenders as my final upgrade targets after that rd 11. The only downgrade target this week is myers, so I need to be filling up at least one midfield spot – and that is going to be SPP. I also currently have 7 fwd eligible players, so by trading Witts I can put Nank in the ruck and swing Steele forward, which gives me my preferred forward line as well.

    All in all I am very happy with my trades this week, and would love another 1000+ climb up the ranking like last week (3700 –> 2600 with a 2228). Confident with my reasoning, but I would love someone to point me out as wrong! Thoughts community?

    • Terry says:

      I havn't finished reading it all yet

    • Bomba says:

      Myers isn't good enough. Look at his history before the saga.

    • TOPHAWK1 says:

      Wow. I am impressed!

      If I had spent as much effort at school like your post above, I would have been a road scholar!!

      I had a good read and I do like your reasoning. I want Zach Merrett as well. And want him big time! He is my number one priority this week. This kid could be anything. And he has a crucial extra year experience on Clayton Oliver. Its about the new kids on the block in 2017 IMO.

      I will try to keep SPP, as I have plenty of bench cover this week. My bench cover will be stretched during rounds 11-13. SPP JS is good, low BE now, and will help me through the key byes and hopefully make a some more cash.


      • Finnius123 says:

        Thanks tophawk, Zerrett is going to be a top 5 mid this year IMO – durable, classy and the number one cog in that essendon midfield.

        FYI its rhode* scholar

      • Colin says:

        Yeah I think you only proved your own point that you didn't pay much attention in school – it's Rhodes Scholar mate.

    • Top Gun says:

      I like yr thinking outside the box. My only query would be trading in two guys who are still going to generate plenty of cash. If you have other players likely to make you money then sure, otherwise are there other possiblities?

      • Finnius123 says:

        The problem is that if I trade out those players with less cash in them (such as hannan and fisher) then I won't make any cash. I am going really hard on my trades early in order to stay in touch and pull out in front of everyone throughout the byes. Shoot first and ask questions later. I will get rid of my spuds throughout the byes in order to get rid of doughies and make my final upgrades. In doing this I will be short on trades. After rd 13 I am planning on 4-5 trades to carry me through. Risky – but it has the highest reward.

    • BlueNath says:

      I really don't like you moving Nank into the rucks and giving up a backup ruck option for when (which it will) one of on-field rucks is out for a week or two. Just be careful you are not giving up too much for 1 premo now… you need 18 on-field premo's by seasons end!! It could be a long dark rhode if you don't plan carefully

      • Finnius123 says:

        I like the pun! I already have 18 'keepers' IMO – after this weeks trade. 10 more trades should see me get to 22 – with 5 trades in the kicker for the back end of the season

    • Moustachio says:

      Witts still has decent cash to make. SPP is ready. I assume you're wanting to cut Witts to fund love affair with Zerrett. I would listen to your head over heart, take a Parker or JPK instead and maybe you don't have to cull Witts yet?

      Disregard if Witts is R3, in that case I would put that cash on the field ASAP.

    • Sam says:

      That's a well thought out plan Funnies! What's your team looking like going into the byes? I'm still working towards that balance across all 3 rounds

      • Sam says:

        Or finnius…my auto-correct chose to call you funnies

      • Finnius123 says:

        I have been doing some planning and I am pretty confident that I won't be getting a doughnut each week. Maximum 7 premiums out from each bye – it is a lot but can definitely cover that with the need to only field 18. I recommend just getting a pen and paper out and planning exactly what trades you are going to be making, and then writing out what your team is going to be looking like during a selected round. It is the best way to do it to make sure that everyone is going to be fine (or not fine in a few peoples cases)

  81. Bad_News_Brown says:

    This week I'm trading in Dangerfield. Look at all that cash I've made, the price Danger is and the POD I've had up until now. Full premo coming up. It's big time domination time.

  82. Stav says:

    Hey guys. Thinking of going early on Marchbank to bring Myers in via DPP swing. Want to hold SPP to cover my byes. Breakevens are relatively close. Is this a bad idea?

  83. Derek says:

    last game

  84. Tommo09 says:

    Thinking Otten and Butler to Myers (via DPP) and Adams
    This will leave me with 88k left and 18 trades

    Probably a double downgrade next week


    • Finnius123 says:

      I am going double downgrade next week as well. Like the trade.

  85. Tyruddanaut says:

    Butler out and have a donut in my forward line or Houstan out and take the 10-20k cash hit

  86. Danny says:

    Praying Rockliff plays this week…

    • BlueBoy says:

      Same. Been googling "Tom Rockliff Shoulder Injury" all day. Won't get my hopes up.

    • pod says:

      Maybe next week, hold onto him if you can.

    • Krazee-Eyez Killa says:

      will hold if I can, regardless of if he doesn't play before the bye. can just see myself scrambling to get him back in after a couple 150's if I get rid of him now

      • Derek says:

        he now becomes a major injury problem for the rest of the season

        • DefyingMadness says:

          Hopefully they don't rush him out like they have in the past. I will probably trade him in once he is done with his injury

  87. Top Gun says:

    As Pepper Pig isn't playing this week can we use him for a captain loop?

  88. Frank the Tank says:

    Thoughts on Jake Lloyd?? Top 6 defender? Docherty, Laird and Adams are clearly the top 3. I see guys like Lloyd, Z Williams and Roberton taking the spots that Shaw and Simpson, who aren't what they used to be, have previously occupied.

    • Panthers1738 says:

      I've got him and he has been real good. Lowest score of 84 and hasn't been under 100 for the last three weeks. I'd get him over Shaw or Simpson.

  89. Jack says:

    Hampton to Myers via DPP and
    Butler to Yeo? Or should I go Heeney instead?

    • Marcus Proudson says:

      I'm having the same problem. Heeney or yeo. I think yeo may be cheaper at some stage and heeney is good value. But yeo will be top 6 forward. Hmmmmmm

    • Leeds17 says:

      maybe let your bye structure guide you.

  90. Mike says:

    IS anyone else thinking of trading hyena in? is he the real deal or keeper?

    • Finnius123 says:

      Who the hell is hyena?

    • Mike says:

      heeney* autocorrect sucks!

    • pod says:

      Yes get him he's a star

      • Derek says:

        Only concern is if he can run out the season

        • Mike says:

          I was also looking at his previous scores and the easier teams he got them against… just wondering if he can replicate that against quality harder sides

        • Krazee-Eyez Killa says:

          if you look at last season as a guide, he got better as the season went on. consistently posted 100+ scores at the end from memory. absolute gun. go swans

  91. BigBuggars says:

    Hi all, going Otten > Myers then either:
    Butler > J.Steven via Taranto
    or Butler > Heeney

    Thoughts appreciated.

  92. Panthers1738 says:

    Thinking about getting rid of Sloane as he will get tagged more often now. Thoughts?

  93. Jessie says:

    Carey or Murphy?

  94. Rivo says:

    Hampton & Houston to McNiece & Yeo/Macrae;
    Houston & SPP to Heeney & Myers?

  95. Shane says:


  96. Good says:

    If Rockliff is out this week I am definitely trading. He has the round 11 bye as well which I am quite heavy on. Which premium is worth getting? Maybe josh Kennedy

  97. Panthers1738 says:

    Thinking about trading Pendles for Hannebery. Thoughts?

    • Krazee-Eyez Killa says:

      Personally, I wouldn't. Can see it coming back to haunt you

    • INPieman says:

      Madness. Get to full premium first & then go back clean up who you no longer require if you can

    • TOPHAWK1 says:

      Two premo sideways trades this week? What a fantastic idea!………..*silence*…………. Trade out Sloane and Pendles at the same time! Yep bring in Hanners and perhaps a gun like Treloar? Good luck with that.

      • INPieman says:

        Probably should also get rid of Danger & Fyfe if he's got them. There no good either

        • Krazee-Eyez Killa says:

          Fyfe to Walters is the go. Walters proven premo mid

          • INPieman says:

            Sure is Krazee. Back to back tonnes is good enough. Just ignore the previous 8 seasons of rubbish

    • Winter says:


    • lok says:


    • Heater says:

      Never trade Pendles

  98. INPieman says:

    Crap news about Jesse Hogan. Wish him all the best with his battle. What a bad run the young fella is having. In slightly better news Pendles is now a dad. The spud is out & it's a boy

    • FEARTHEBEARD says:

      With you there Pieman. Such a shock. Hope Hogan is ok.

      Congrats to the Pendles.

  99. iLoveNMFC says:


    SPP to Josh Kelly/Dusty?


    Butler to S. Martin via DPP?

  100. Vicki says:

    Hi Community

    I was looking at bringing in Lloyd this week for Otten. Will the return of Rampe which could be as early as this week impact on Lloyd's scoring? Is it possible to look up SuperCoach scores from earlier rounds to see how they were together?

    Thank you.

  101. Derek says:

    How did Mutimer go on the weekend? what is his JS like.

    The good thing about him is his first score was a 23, that drops out of his rolling average this week, so he still have a bit of cash to make. has a BE of -21 this week, but if he has another score in the 50's his BE next week will still be very similar as the 23 drops out.

    only $151k.

    • INPieman says:

      He's been serviceable last 2 weeks & been handy. Missed 2 set shots that kept him from a 70. Won't be collecting 30 touches anytime soon but he looks comfortable at the level. I got him in last week. So likely to be dropped this week

      • Derek says:

        thanks. i'll have to do a double downgrade this week as i spent all my cash last week getting Shaw and Rance in. Myers and Mutimer look only options.

        Simpkin will have to go, and if Preuss isn't named that is it for him.

      • Derek says:

        has a handy round 12 bye as well

  102. Krazee-Eyez Killa says:

    Question: Is Danger a must have this season? Has dropped price considerably so will probably never get him cheaper. Weighing up whether to get him now or just leave him alone

    • Finnius123 says:

      He is an absolute bargain at this price – would definitely be getting him in.

    • JoeD says:

      Got sore ribs but that won't last forever. Won't be long before he's pumping out those 130s again and the Cats have a nice little run at Simmonds coming up so would get on board either this week or next.

    • Moustachio says:

      Wow. Get him.

  103. Hawks says:

    Can players that have the bye be used to loophole throughout the round, or are they locked out from the start of the round?

    Help appreciated. Thanks in advance

  104. Benjamin B says:

    Pendlebury has a baby boy.
    Looks like he wont be missing a week after all 🙂

    • JoeD says:

      I can sniff a 140 plusser coming up against the fantasy point leaking Hawks who have plenty of injury issues now with Rioli, Stratton and Frawley all with lengthy stints on the sideline.

      • Austin says:

        Yeah talk that Ty Vickery may play so you know the Hawks playing list must be decimated. 🙂

  105. Stinga says:

    Hey all,
    So I had nank in my rucks and didn't really have a way to get him in the forward unless I traded in a duel ruck/fwd.
    Thoughts on upgrading the likes of Butler to boyd and Houston to Heeney to then bring nank in the forward and eventually trade up Boyd to premo ruck after their bye round? Probably someone like S.Martin.
    Will have a full premo fwd line after this. (Macrae, Dahl, Franklin, Nank, Greene, heeney).
    Only need to upgrade 1 ruck spot, 1 defense spot and 3 mids then full premo. Got Boyd, Newman, Taranto, SPP and 1 other rookie to upgrade.
    20 trades left, 105k in the bank.
    Any thoughts on this strategy would be much appreciated!

    • lok says:

      I'm guessing you don't know the trick to getting him into the fwd line. Press trade on a fwd player, then scroll down untill you see an s next to your players names down at the bottom.

    • Northernsoul74 says:

      Why don't you just trade Butler straight to a premium ruck? Why bother with wasted trade on Boyd?

  106. Krazee-Eyez Killa says:

    McVeigh out. Looks as though Nic Newman will get another run regardless of if Rampe comes back

  107. Paddy says:

    SPP -> Myers like everybody else.

    Potentially can upgrade marchbank this week. Selwoood or Merrett? Selwood better for yes but Merrett looks a fun this year.
    Who would you get on?

    Ps considered dusty but don't need another roller coaster.

  108. PlottingPlodder says:

    SPP -> Myers like everybody else.

    Potentially can upgrade marchbank this week. Selwood or Merrett? Selwood better for byes but Merrett looks a gun this year.
    Who would you get on?

    Ps considered dusty but don't need another roller coaster.

  109. JustaMug says:

    What's up with the site Jock???
    Found LekDog's cheat sheet through twitter and no podcast this week.. your site showing nothing???
    I feel lost haha