SuperCoach Significance Report: HAW v GEE

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SuperCoach 2017 JLT series report


The modern rivalry between Geelong and Hawthorn continued tonight in Game 2 of the <Insert Commercial Sponsor> Cup/Series/Challenge tonight and I dare say that all 7 of the fans that rocked up got their money’s worth.

More importantly though: there were 3 fine young men by the name of Zac that frolicked upon the sensual expanses of UOT Oval tonight, all three of them produced ripping games and brought nationwide trouser stiffness to a historic climax.

Zac Tuohy, Zac Guthrie and Zac Smith were superb for the Cats from the very start and I dare say all three will figure significantly come season proper.

They aren’t the only ones though, I made sure I absorbed every last drop of sweet, succulent supercoach juice out of this match-up..

..and I now intend to spray my juice all over you: the sacred community.



Simply SUPERB. Was close to BOG at half-time and played all over the bloody ground. Spent time in the Midfield, worked his way forward and back…even pinch-hit in the ruck when required. Under-priced as all hell and I can guarantee that’s exactly where your headed if you don’t pick him.

JOSH GIBSON | HAW | $490,400 | DEF

I tell you what: they must empty every bottle of bloody Crisco they have onto this bloke pre-game, he was shinier than a rare Pokemon and slipperier than the mole I gunned down during my time as a Sicario for the Juarez Cartel. Quiet SC-wise, bit too old to be considered regardless.


The Sugar Man just never stops delivering. Was absolutely sublime playing wherever required tonight. Finished with 20 disposals @85%, 4 Clearances, 6 Tackles and 1.1. Averaged 105+ over the last 10 games of 2016 and is durable…it’d take some sizeable pant-fruits to pick him though given age and price.

JAEGER O’MEARA | HAW | $318,900 | MID

Had an enormous first half with 12 touches (9 of those contested) and 5 Tackles. Clarko put the bastard on ice for the second half as he should do. Interesting to note that the Hawks clearance numbers fell away significantly after JOM went off…. He will be extremely important for Hawthorn in 2017, are his knees up to it?


Started the game like a flaming mountain goat but slowed down significantly. You know what you get with Birchall, consistent 75+ scores with the odd ton thrown in for good measure. I think there is much better value on offer though.


Plenty of hype coming in for this bloke, had a great VFL season last year and got his opportunity after half-time. Only had the 2 touches and struggled to get amongst it sadly. Will definitely play another JLT match so I’ll keep watching.

TEIA MILES | HAW | $123,900 | MID/FWD

NOW HERE’S ONE TO WATCH! I really liked what I saw from young Milo the Milkman tonight, he played the entire game as a loose man in defense and racked up enough of the seed (17d @77%) to suggest that he is relevant come Round 1. He took kick-outs at one stage which tells you the Hawks rate his kicking (as do I). The DPP is highly stimulating south of the border and this kid MUST be on everyone’s watch-list after tonight.



ZACH TUOHY | GEEL | $443,200 | DEF

Probably the Zac of the night in my view. Played an incredibly SC-friendly role running off half back and did as he pleased for the majority of the night. His kicking was exceptional and best of all: his teammates continually searched for him when exiting defensive 50. 33 disposals (20 Kicks) @86% tells the tale of his night, and if that doesn’t get your wazoo woofing: he is extremely durable (Currently on a 90 Game Consecutive Streak). Onto the watch-list he goes.

ZAC SMITH | | GEEL | $421,500 | RUC

A forgotten commodity is Zac Smith. The loping, long-limbed bastard impressed me tonight with his 14 Disposals @89%, 29 Hit-Outs and 4 Tackles. Had plenty of Hit-outs to advantage and is enjoying the death of the third-man up. Did the majority of the ruck-work as well which is good to see. Not sure if he’s anywhere approaching pick-worthy given the numerous options in the Ruck division but he’s still one to think about.

AARON BLACK | GEEL | $137,100 | FWD

If you haven’t already locked this bloke onto your forward bench, I know a very good life coach you can consult (I met him during my time as a Palaeontologist in the Sub-Saharan Tundra). Anyway, he kicked 4.0 and looked very lively in the Cat’s forward line. He will definitely play R1 (barring injury) and at $137k he is a MUST.

MITCH DUNCAN | GEEL | $502,200 | MID

Limited game-time as one would expect. Still managed 21 disposals and 6 tackles from just 55% TOG. Had an average year in 2016 and will look to fire up as Geelong’s 3rd best mid. He COULD break-out but not really worth the risk at his price.


Stay away from him. Had minimal influence and never looked threatening.


Went at a canter and still tore the damn thing apart. 27 disposals @82%, 8 Clearances and 6 Tackles. Enormous price-tag but I’d feel very nervous if you didn’t have him…especially when you consider that Geelong’s first 8 games are less laborious than outdoor urination.

TOM STEWART | GEEL | $117,300 | DEF

Did more than enough to suggest that he deserves a bench spot in your defence. Had 16 touches @56% but the poor DE can be written off as first-game jitters. Laid 6 tackles which should prove great as an alternate point source. Looking forward to seeing how he goes in the second dig.


Ticked all the boxes for a return game from an ACL. Grasped the nugget 18 times @61% and looked comfortable slotting into his defensive role. Awkward price considering the injury though so I’d think twice and have a back-up plan if you’re picking him.

ZACH GUTHRIE | GEEL | $102,400 | DEF

I’m betting last night you didn’t even know Cam Guthrie had a brother. Well he does, and he’s a nifty little footballer. Played as an extra behind the ball and loved every minute of it gathering 24 disposals @71% including a goal. Only had 68% TOG as well so you’d figure that number will increase in the remaining JLT games…could be a genuine bolter for round 1.

How did you see it tonight community?





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  1. TOMAHAWK says:

    HAHAHAHA – Brilliant analysis! Very witty. Roughy Lock.

  2. jockreynolds says:

    In equal parts pissing myself & being downright impressed by the SC wisdom you've deployed X man – BRILLIANT stuff!

    • Patch says:

      So there you go: it is possible to do a funny write up without referencing the Simpsons….

    • Kev says:

      Super writeup, X. Equal parts informative and hilarious with just the right amount of testicle innuendo. Hopefully you've put up your hand for a few more games mate

  3. Patch says:

    Lovely stuff Monsieur X – Silk Burgoyne impressing me. A lot. I'm tempted, but too early to make a call on who slinks into my D2 slot. Roughie a lock, Schoenmakers a sneaky proposition at 155k in the forward line if he gets a game. Aaron Black is back from the periphery of my watchlist right front and centre. Been banking on Miles for my structures and am rapped he's done well.

    Ripping stuff mate.

  4. jockreynolds says:

    Jock Magazine enthusiasts – Sam Menegola: 24 touches @84%, 12 contested, 8 clearances, 7 tackles 74%TOG #HuntingTheNextMidfieldBeast

    • TRIGGER HAPPY says:

      Keen on menegola but very awkward price if he was around JOM be straight in.

      Could have thrown is a bone. 6 games and he is [email protected]!

      Would take a fair re-jig but boy impressive how he goes about it. Took caddys spot. So caddy packed his bags and left. Ensconced in the cats midfield.

      • Westy says:

        The only thing less fair than that is Fiorini in AFL Fantasy – 2 games played – price 500k +

    • Dan says:

      Rough SC score? Handballs worry me.

  5. hedski says:

    We need more Mr.X rated sc material (jock centrefolds).
    Hope the rest of the preseason is as good as tonights game.

  6. TRIGGER HAPPY says:

    Rough – tick
    Danger – tick
    Stewart – tick
    Miles – tick stays on my mid bench
    Selwood – tick. Oh wait didn't play. No matter still a big tick.

    Watch list – black and Guthrie.

    Good night to tick the boxes.
    Guaranteed it was gonna be close just seems to happen when these two play.

  7. Byrna says:

    if omearas due to play such an important role for the Hawks then surely omeara>swallow assuming his fit

  8. BarronVonCrow says:

    SC scores!



    Kade Stewart 112

    Isaac Smith 101

    Shaun Burgoyne 92

    Cyril Rioli 85

    Billy Hartung 82

    Liam Shiels 73

    Will Langford 72

    Ryan Schoenmakers 72

    Ben McEvoy 71

    Grant Birchall 71

    Ryan Burton 65

    Jarryd Roughead 63

    James Frawley 63

    Ty Vickery 59

    Teia Miles 58

    Taylor Duryea 55

    Kieran Lovell 49

    Jaeger O’Meara 44

    Ben Stratton 43

    Josh Gibson 40

    Paul Puopolo 40

    James Sicily 35

    Blake Hardwick 31

    Kurt Heatherley 26

    Dallas Willsmore 12

    Marc Pittonet 6


    Zach Tuohy 130

    Patrick Dangerfield 117

    Zac Smith 102

    Zach Guthrie 91

    Sam Menegola 90

    Aaron Black 89

    Tom Stewart 85

    Andrew Mackie 85

    Mitch Duncan 80

    Tom Ruggles 76

    Jackson Thurlow 74

    Darcy Lang 71

    Jordan Cunico 70

    Mark Blicavs 68

    Nakia Cockatoo 61

    Rhys Stanley 59

    Steven Motlop 59

    Brandan Parfitt 55

    Jed Bews 53

    Jack Henry 51

    Tom Lonergan 51

    Harry Taylor 50

    Tom Hawkins 47

    Josh Cowan 35

    Cameron Guthrie 17

    Lachie Henderson 10

  9. Nathan says:

    mr menegola you are looking very likely to be my m7
    I'd just like to see full strength sides

    • Hutto76 says:

      Just did exactly that! Could involve some adjustments in other areas if either one of 2 cheap ruckmen don't come to fruition! It's early days, but definitely an exciting time of the season!

  10. AMAC says:

    Interesting summary X. How do you rate Geelong this year? I think that neither Harry nor Aaron will provide the necessary CHF dominance required to be a force this year. Only players I am considering from Geelong are Danger, Selwood and Tuohy. I think they could be drifters this year…….

    • Dee says:

      Cats are gonna win the premiership this year mate…. What are you on bout?

    • The Stiv says:

      I wasn't convinced by Harry up forward to be honest. Aaron Black had a good game but more evidence needed.

    • Mr. X says:

      The Cats Premiership Window is RIGHT NOW!!!!!!!! Arguably the best midfield in the competition, added Black and Tuohy in the off-season which can only help. Thurlow/Scott Selwood due back from injury vastly improves their depth as well. I expect them to finish Top 4 for sure. In terms of SC, I consider the following relevant:
      – Danger (Obviously)
      – Joel Selwood (Always ripe for plucking post-bye, especially given his insane history of form after mid-season).
      – Zac Tuohy (Highly relevant after tonight but to be fair, he was left alone for the majority of the night. I highly doubt teams will allow him to run around with that much time and space in the season proper).
      – Scott Selwood (Definitely relevant at his price considering he has averaged over 105 in the past. Has had an exceptional pre-season and he COULD finally be fit!)

      Hope that answers your question mate 😉

      – Mr. X

  11. Corvus says:

    League for Jock Renolds followers only: 914967. If you're after some serious competition.

  12. The BONT says:

    Has anyone thought about Trent McKenzie for the GC at 238k, I think if he stays fit he could be a massive profit

  13. Kev says:

    I think we saw the absolute best case scenario out of Black. Jagged 4 goals but only 1 mark (uncontested). Scoring power was never huge at Norf. On the watchlist sure but I'd be happy to leave him out if others present

    • Kreuz says:

      Fair call Kev, and agree about best case. However, last nights performance surely has to put him ahead of Bowes and McLuggage just on price alone…..At least until we see them play!

      • Kev says:

        McBags yes. Bowes maybe. Only 30-odd k more, if the hype is real he may offer a bit more consistency as an onfield rookie. Teams out for Sunday yet?

  14. Tommo09 says:

    Really liked Rough, JOM, Stewart last night
    I thought JOM was out until at least round 3???

  15. Clock Management says:

    Was at the match last night,
    Aaron Black is enormous, he is filled out and looked as big of not bigger than Tommy H, lock.

    Roughy was everywhere. Danger did his job.

    Zac Touhy was already in my squad but now lot of people will jump on him.

    Tom Stewart will play Rd 1 looked better than ruffles and even Thurlow,

    One guy that got my attention was Issac Smith was running extremarly hard for a JLT match, and was used by his teammates a lot, nice pod.

    Overall a lot more relevance than night 1. However still can't read to much into it.

    P.S geez it was funny when Cyril hit the post from the goal square. I was behind the goals, cars cheersquad was tearing into him.

    Anyway that's my review.

  16. I N Pieman says:

    My 8 year old boy Ben just finished his first SC team & wants to role into the National Schools with this line up. He'd appreciate some advice. Bit of Pies bias as a junior Pieman! Note: He picked all his premos & may have had some rookie selection advice

    Adams, Burgoyne, Johanisen, Stewart, Ryan, Newman, Vickers Willis, Long
    Danger, Pendles, Treloar, Rockliffe, Bontempelli, Fyfe, Swallow, Myers, SPP, M Hibbered, Graham
    Gawn, Witts, Straindick
    Dahlhaus, Buddy, Ryder, Elliott, Hoskin Elliott, Bowes, Smith, Eddy

    • John says:

      Very good team young Ben! Good luck in the National Schools comp young fella.

    • jockreynolds says:

      Best of luck Ben in the BIG Nationals mate!!! I really like your team. I really like how you've got Buddy in there – will be a lot of fun watching him and I reckon he could kick a lot of goals this year. Well done!

      • I N Pieman says:

        He loves watching Buddy. Didn't hesitate with the selection. He also sees Shaun Burgoyne every Monday because he plays basketball with his son. That was his first pick. Could be a good one considering we know his role this season, he will all over the park in 2017

        • John says:

          Pieman what did Shaun say his role would be at the Hawks this year?

          • I N Pieman says:

            Mid/Fwd & Mid/Def depending on opponent. Expext to see him all over the park. Looks extremely fit & leaner than I can ever recall seeing him

            • John says:

              Good defensive option you reckon?

              • I N Pieman says:

                Hasn't AV over 100 since 2008. Durable as it gets though. Missed 4 games since 2010. With all the quality defence options I'm not sure he's top 8. But some mid time is appealing. Tough call. He's in the mix for my team

                • Derek says:

                  He might have a bad game that rolls through his price, get him cheaper, but not top 6

    • TRIGGER HAPPY says:

      Great team Ben.
      That is as good as most teams I have seen posted on here.
      Powerful midfield – swallow at M7 – nice 🙂
      Should smoke them in the Nationals with that team infact would give the community a run for their money including dad.

      Well done.

      • I N Pieman says:

        He says thanks Trig. Elliott is his favourite player. That's not negotiable. I think the rest of his team is very solid

    • Shake n bake says:

      Hey Pieman, my son is 8 aswell & like myself loves the black & white. so something in common there! Wish Ben luck great team hope he goes well.

      • I N Pieman says:

        He's reading the Jock Magazine Shake. Hoping he reads the congative bias article

  17. zakvb says:

    Def: Adams, Laird, Johannisen, Hurley, Keefe, Vickers-willis (ryan, long)
    Mid: Danger, Jpk, Sloane, Bont, Fyfe, Swallow, Myers, Powell-pepper (Hibberd, graham, ronke)
    Ruck: gawn, witts (sterndicka)
    Fwd: Dahlhaus, motlop, ryder, roughead, balic, Bolton (Smith, eddy)
    $282,300 left in the bank, not sure what to do with it got a coupla ideas tell us your thoughts
    Witts to a 450-500k ruck
    Swallow to premo mid
    Ryder and roughie to 500k fwds
    Or chuck in another mid pricer pod somewhere
    I know forward lines a bit risky and am not impressed with motlops performance last night.
    Cheers let me know what ya reckon.

  18. stabmow says:

    Don't get fooled by Burgoyne he is guaranteed to spud it up at least twice in the first 6-weeks

    2012 fist 6 ave 80 worst three 61,65,70
    2013 fist 6 ave 92 worst three 56,70,89
    2014 fist 6 ave 101 worst three 72,96,101
    2015 fist 6 ave 88 worst three 59,67,83
    2016 fist 6 ave 89 worst three 68,73,80

  19. Iconic says:

    G'day Community,

    I want a website that, throughout the JLT Community Series, I can access things such as: SC Scores, TOG% and DE%


    • SCaddict says:

      Try FanFooty mate. They were even doing live SC scores last year until from memory the HS cracked down and put the kibosh on all that. Or at least they are not live during the JLT such as the Giants Eagles game right now.

      But you will still get them at some point after the games have finished.

      • Iconic says:

        Cheer SCaddict, need this as it will help significantly with a couple of selections I am twoing and froing about

  20. Derek says:

    Roughie looking good is annoying, have to build a team that includes him as one of my options.

    Just not sure about him