Supercoach 2017 Team Reveal v1.0

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2017 Supercoach team revealsThe best preseason in the proud history of our community.

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I’d like to humbly thank EVERY beautiful human who visits our pages, tunes into our podcasts and chews the fat with us on Social Media. You’ve all contributed to the spirit of togetherness, positivity and community that we all feel passionately about.

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  1. Moshedpotatoes says:

    I'm breaking every rule in SC this year and some you may break down in tears just looking at this monstrosity of a team but I'm breaking the shackles of seasons past and going on a suicidal path of experimentation.

    Rance Adams Hibberd
    Langdon Scharenberg Hampton

    Dangerfield J Kennedy Sloane
    Martin Bontempelli Fyfe
    Beams Myers

    Sandilands Giles

    Macrae Heeney Touk Touk
    Roughead Rioli Hoskin Elliot

    Didn't bother listing bench rookies they will change 10000000 times

    Unleash your hatred now.

    • discojim says:

      It is the time to experiment – I like it!
      Tell my why Myers & Riloi please Moshed.

      • Kev says:

        Myers criminally cheap for a bloke who averaged 86 in 2014. If he's named (and he should) he's a must have

      • Moshedpotatoes says:

        It's Willie Rioli just a rookie subject to change but I do think he can sneak into West Coast best 22

    • Luskin Star says:

      Love the rucks. Doing that myself. Think you should reconsider Hibberd. Avg last time he played in mid 80s. I do t see a reason to be confident of that changing.

    • Vchap says:

      I really like langdon, his got a lot of talent but i dont see him averaging over 90 probably not worth a spot

    • Derek says:

      someone told me Roughie might not play until may

      • Moshedpotatoes says:

        Yeah Roughie is likely to be changed I just love the bloke. Him coming in mid year would be ideal to offload that stagnating rookie we all have on the bench at that time cough Menadue cough

    • Wighty says:

      How the hell do I get myself setup to initiate discussions ?

      My team is

      Heater, Berry, Ryan, Montagna, Scharenberg, Stewart (Rookie 1 and 2)

      Bont, JPK, Danger, Cripps (Car), Beams, Fyfe, Pendles, Powell Pepper ( Graham, Bowes, Myers)

      Goldy, sandi (Strnadica)

      Deledio, Pickett (Car), Caddy, Dahl, Macrae, Eddy (Stewart Ess, Darcy)

      Set and forget mids, cash cows on all lines hopefully.

  2. jezzahill says:

    Early days obviously, but happy with the structure.

    DEF: Shaw, Laird, Johannisen, Hampton, Scharenberg, Berry (Ryan, Stewart)

    MID: Dangerfield, Kennedy, Bontempelli, Fyfe, Beams, Swallow, Brodie, Powell-Pepper (Myers, Wigg, Ahern)

    RUCK: Gawn, Goldstein (Strnadica)

    FWD: Kennedy, Dahlhaus, Heeney, Ryder, Simpkin, McKay (Lebois, Eddy)

    • Matt says:

      Very nice, similar to mine, but not sure about Kennedy at F1????

      • jezzzahill says:

        Yeah I'm not 100% sold on him yet either, but I can see him having another good year. WC will be there abouts again and whenever they play weak teams at home Kennedy goes bananas. 16 scores of 80+ last year means he's not the worst option and a bit of a POD.

    • Kev says:

      Like the structure, jezza.

      Fyfe, beams, swallow in the guts is ballsy. I'd take 2 and try to get Bont down to M4

  3. Jimi says:

    I'm leaning much more heavily towards a gun's a rookies structure this year (except the mids, as always there is too much fallen premo value to be had there).

    Goes without saying that this is an early iteration.

    DEF: Adams, Liard, JJ, A.McGrath, L.Ryan, T.Stewart
    MIDS: Pendles, Zerrett, Bont, Fyfe, Heppell, D.Beams, D.Swallow, D.Myers
    RUC: Gawn, Goldy
    FWD: Dahl, Heeney, McCluggage, J.Stewart, A.Black, J.Pickett.

  4. Joshua Bankes says:

    Straight up guns and rookies for me.

    DEF: Shaw, Boyd, Rance, Stewart, McGrath, Ryan (Long, Witherden)
    MID: Dangerfield, Pendlebury, Fyfe, Neale, Bontempelli, Treloar, Powell-Pepper (Brodie, Bowes, Graham)
    RUC: Goldstein, Grundy (Lynch)
    FWD: Dahlhous, Macrae, McCluggage, Pickett, Simpkin, Gallucci (Florent , Eddy)

    • Joshua Bankes says:

      And also have Berry in my mid

    • Kev says:

      Nice looking premo's. Try to scrape together the cash for a better F3

      • Joshua Bankes says:

        im not really confident on any forward premos at the moment so thats why i havent gone for a quality f3

  5. Liam says:

    Still chopping and changing a bit with the structure and players but liking the look of this team.

    DEF: Doc, Adams, Laird, T.McDonald, Hartlett, Newman (Stewart, Ryan)
    MID: Danger, Pendles ,GAJ, Treloar, Fyfe, Beams, Myers, SPP (Freeman,Ahern,Barrett)
    RUC: Gawn, Sandi (Strnadica)
    FWD: Dahlhaus, Ryder, McCluggage, Ainsworth, Black, Pickett (Rioli, Eddy)

    Would love to hear some thoughts on my team.
    Cheers Liam.

    • Krups says:

      Maybe your 2/4 FWD lineup is off balance a little? Maybe one more non rookie player at F3?
      Like the ryder back up for sandi

      • Liam says:

        Yeah is a bit light, lots of good rookies in the forward line so feel liek they could do a role until I work out who I want in my forward line as there is not many options.

      • Derek says:

        It seems most people who are going with sandi in Ruck are also playing Ryder in Forwards for cover.

        Not sure whether two mid-pricers make a premium.

        • Liam says:

          I think Ryder will do enough to be top 10 in forward and Sandi if fit can easy average 95 plus and acts as a great stepping stone to Goldy/Grundy.

        • Jib Jib says:

          True but if your running Sandi at R2 then you must have some ruck cover at F3/4. Don't think Ryder is the answer though, too much $$$ for a burnman. Better value a Boyd, or Nankervis IMO.

  6. Adam says:

    Currently adopting an unorthodox structure and would greatly appreciate some feedback.
    Def: K Simpson, H Shaw, L Montagna, H Hartlett, R Murphy, M Scharenebrg, ( E Vicker-Wills, N Newman)
    Mids: P Dangerfield, S Pendlebury, D Hannebery, J Kennedy, J Selwood, N Fyfe, D Swallow, S Selwood, (D Myers, S Powell-Pepper, J Graham)
    Rucks: M Gawn, A Sandilands, (L Strandica)
    Fwds: C McCarthy, H McLuggage, K Turner, J Bowes, O Florent, A Black, (J Pickett, B Eddy)

    • Krups says:

      Reckon the FWD line is waaaayyyy too light on mate

    • Liam says:

      Got the same structure in defence with the 5 premos, but in saying that I would maybe downgrade one of them as well one of Selwood or Swallow to get a few more premos in your fwd line.

    • Kev says:

      Nice, Adam. Reckon you'll be caught short with cash generation though

    • Derek says:

      there is alot of tooth length in defence

    • Ryan says:

      I like your idea. Not sure but didnt the overall Supercoach winner have the same structure with his team last year but did the same with his backline…

  7. Krups says:

    Def: Simpson, Doc, JJ, McGrath , Scrimshaw , Berry ( Scharenberg , Ryan
    Mid: Danger, Pendles, Kennedy, Treloar, Murphy, OMeara, Taranto , McCluggage ( Petrevski -seton, Jarman, Junker)
    Ruck: Martian , Sandi ( Cameron)
    Fwd: Dalh, Macrae, Heeney, Ryder, Ainsworth, Long ( Brown,Eddy )

    • Liam says:

      Would downgrade a few of your expensive premos and upgrade Murphy and/or Martin to uber premiums.

      • Krups says:

        thanks bloke. Which premos should i downgrade?

        • Liam says:

          Jesus not premos rookies.
          Would go
          Taranto > Myers
          Petrevski-seton > Powell-Pepper
          McGrath > Stewart
          Martin > Gawn.

          Would also have Hampton over Scrimshaw.

    • Kimmyd says:

      Also Simpson, docherty and jj all have round 11 byes and you also have Dahl and macrame also in fwd line that's a lot of premo keepers out already in round 11 keep that in mind in you are trying to win overall. Range has round 12 bye and Heath shaw round 13 just a few other options for you.

      • Kimmyd says:

        Heeney also has found 11 bye I just realised which is why I'm not starting with him. So you don't want 3 Feds and 3 defender premises out in the same round, I would change 2-3 of them if I were you.

  8. IDontLose says:

    I've got a fairly vanilla sort of team, should gain some flavour towards the start of the season

    DEF: Docherty, Adams, Johannisen (Hibberd, Ryan)
    McGrath, Scharenberg, Berry

    MID: Dangerfield, Treloar, Bontempelli (Powell-Pepper, Petrevski-Seton, Freeman)
    Fyfe, Beams, Swallow,
    Brodie, Galluci

    RUC: Gawn, Goldstein (Strndica)

    FWD: Dahlhaus, Caddy, Heeney (Black, Eddy)
    McCluggage, Ainsworth, Bowes

    • Matt says:

      Like it, but not sure about Caddy & Beams, who has admitted his knee will forever be cooked?

      • Luskin Star says:

        Thats big news on beams Matt. Where did you hear that. Not doubting you just super interested in checking out the story. I have him in my side this time of year, every year and have to drop him before the start. Was hoping this year would be diff.

  9. I N Pieman says:

    Shaw, laird, Adams, JJ, McGrath, Scharenberg, Newman, Ryan
    Danger, Pendles, Gary, Fyfe, Beams, Murphy, Swallow, Myers, SPP, Scheer, Graham
    Gawn, Sandi, Strandica
    Heeney, Ryder, Bennell, The luggage, J Smith, Long, Eddy, Smith

    • Kev says:

      God, Fyfe, Beams, Murphy, Swallow… Missing a few heads, shoulders, knees, and toes in that lot!

      Newman to tear the comp a new one if he gets a shot

      • I N Pieman says:

        Hoping 1-2 of those boys is a keeper Kev. I agree on Newman Kev. Named round 1 he's a must

    • Luskin Star says:

      Given your fondness for picks 30- 80 i have surprised to see McGraph and Luggage get a birth. You must have big opinion of both

      • I N Pieman says:

        Massive opinion Luskin. I'll reveal why in due course. It's isually picks 18-40 I'm fond of

        • Luskin Star says:

          Never was good with numbers. I'll look forward to your articles on the big 2 rookies. Dont have them in my side but you have been known to infuence my opinion

    • TRIGGER HAPPY says:

      Mate that is a kenny rogers team right there.
      Laird, adams and to a lesser extent jj in the back line hopefully they all hold up
      Gaz (huge pod for you there), fyfe, beams, murph and swallow – played about 10 games between them last year
      Sandi – hard to pass up his value
      heeney #1 fwd!, ryder and bennell

      Wow if that comes off pure genius, but for mine the cards are stacked against you.

      lots of water but ….

      • I N Pieman says:

        That won't be my round 1 team trigger. No way in a millions years. Just playing around ATM

        • The German says:

          Like a few things in Pieman's team. Solid backline. Some real PODS, but as stated you'll change these 1000 times as preseason starts and roles develop. Love the selections in the Mids, taking a risk, but that's what the game is about. Murph is very good value if he is fit. Same with Swallow, I am keen on S Selwood myself over Swallow.

          Heeney……choo choo jump aboard. Hopefully will get mid minutes.

          • I N Pieman says:

            Cheers German. If s Selwood is not tagging them he's real value. The question is what is his role

    • Derek says:

      who is The luggage?

    • Derek says:

      which Smith is that in the forward line?

    • fatboyfat7 says:

      Have Scheer, SPP and Graham myself sitting on the pine. All in all I really have a similar midfield but lackly a mid/fwd DPP… Pickett may have to get a spot instead of one of those boys, maybe even instead of Myers….

  10. Tim says:

    DEFS: Premos: Doc (587,142), Rance (531,630), Tuohy (443,200)  Rookies: McGrath (211,800), Scimshaw (184,800), Scharenberg (164,00)
    Bench: Cox (BRL) (117,300), Berry (139,800)

    MID: Premos: Danger (711,558), Pendles (645,700), Hanners (616,800), Gray (588,200) Bont (586,100) Mid priced: Fiorini (279,100)  Rookies: McCluggage (211,800), Sam Petrevski-Seton (198,300)
    Bench: Brodie (184,800), Powell-Pepper (135,300), Myers, (133,700)
    Rk: Gawn (640,170) , Sandy (308,200)
     Bench: Ratugolea (117,300)

    Fwd: Premos: Dalh (520,700), Lynch (GCS) (507,200), Henney (433,400) Rookies: Ainsowrth (198,300), Simpkin (NTH) (162,300), Florent (166,800)

    Bench: Ahern (123,900) Bolton (117,300)

    • Luskin Star says:

      Like the Fiorini pick Tim. Going to be a gun

      • Tim says:

        a lot of people are telling to go with swallow but look at Fiorini 2 games 46,125 i know his first game isn't that impressive but his 2nd game shows there is value there and with o'meara and prestia gone who is going to step up? swallow, miller, fiorini?

    • AMAC says:

      Mate Ahern's got a busted knee. no chance to play 2017

  11. Captain Awesome says:

    DEF. Doc. T Adams. B Murph. A McGrath L Keefe. Berry.
    Int. L Ryan. T Stewart
    MID Danger. Hanners. Treloar. Bont. Fyfe Beams. Omeara. Swallow. Int. P. Pepper. Myers J Graham
    RUCK Max. Sandi. Strainyadick
    FWD. Dahl. Heeney. Ryder. McLuggage Bowes Pickett.
    Int. Bolton Eddy

    Gonna be a fair bit of switching going on before the season begins as with everyone else. Especially after a few cans

  12. Stevo Rivo says:

    Guns & Rookies to start – bound to change over the pre-season…

    Def: Docherty, Shaw, Rance, Marchbank, A.McGrath, Witherden (L. Ryan, T.Stewart);

    Mid: Danger, Martin, Bont, Fyfe, T.Adams, Beams, Bowes, Powell-Pepper (Myers, J.Graham, Jarman);

    Rucks: Gawn, Grundy (Cameron);

    Fwds: Dahlhaus, Gunston, T.Nankervis, McCulggage, Ainsworth, Battle (S. Bolton, B. Eddy).

    How's it looking Jock & Community????

  13. Alferton says:

    Def: Docherty, Adams, Rance, Scharenberg, Mitch Hibberd, Ryan, (Stewart, Long)

    Mids: Dangerfield, Pendlebury, Hannebery, Fyfe, Heppell, Beams, Swallow, Myers, ( Powell-Pepper, Barrett, Graham)

    Rucks: Gawn, Sandilands ( Strnadica)

    Fwds: Dahlhaus, Macrea, Heeney, Ryder, Black, Tim Smith, (Lebois, Eddy).

  14. hedski says:

    Rucks have been doin my head in, normally set forget but I'm lookin at the "Sex on the Beach" combo this year to spread some $ to the guts.

    Doch Vince Z.Williams (Newman)
    Bob McGrath Berry (Ryan)

    Danger GAJ Hannas (Petr-Set)
    Treloar Fyfe Heppell (Ahearn)
    Swallow Myers (Graham)

    Big Stiffy/ Sandiballs (Stradniclush)

    Rooey Heeney Ryder (Eddy)
    Luggage Pickett T.Smith (Bolton)

    Rooks subject to normal change, let's face it they all are bar Danger.
    Pick away cheers.

    • Kev says:

      Love your mids, hedski. Worried about Bob Murphy a bit. 34 and coming back from a knee.

      • I N Pieman says:

        Don't mind it at all Hedski. But I'm with Kev here I'm a bit worried about old Bob

    • hedski says:

      Thanks lads, yeah Bobs a worry but could slash a rook or two and upgrade him a bit I'll suss it out. Cheers.

    • fatboyfat7 says:

      Nice to see someone else line up with Bernie in the defense… I'm EXTREMELY surprised he's not featuring in more teams….

      • hedski says:

        Yeah I reckon he'll go well in an improving demons outfit fatty, tooth length not that long yet, cheers.
        (Have slotted Hooker in for Bob ATM, might even slash Doch and up Hooker a bit)

      • Moustachio says:

        3 sub 60 scores in his last 5 games, reckon the tooth length might be catchin up with him??

  15. SheriffsBigRig says:

    Def: doch,Adams, jj, t-mack, a otten, e Vick-will. Bench: L Ryan, n larkey
    Mid: gaz, dusty, bont, Fyfe, hepp, beams, swallow, a witherden. Bench: c brown, s Bolton, j graham.
    Ruck: sandy, s martin. bench: l strnadica.
    Fwd: macrae, t lynch, heeney, Ryder, Bowes, Balic. Bench: t miles, t smith.

    Going in heavy with comeback kids, but very confident fyfe beams will return in good shape and finish top 8, rolling the dice a bit with Heppell, Ryder and swallow. Pre season form pending with those selections but with their ability should come back into form straight away. Thoughts please

  16. Beastiano says:

    DEF: T.Adams, Lloyd, Hartlett, Murphy, McGrath, Logue (Scrimshaw, Ryan)
    MID: Danger, Pendles, Hannas, Bont, Fyfe, D. Beams, Swallow, Petrevski-Seton (Berry, Myers, O'Hanrahan)
    RUC: Gawn, Ryder (Eagles)
    FWD: J.Kennedy, Heeney, Mccluggage, Ainsworth, Bowes, Gallucci (Rioli, Eddy)

    Will only be some minor tweaking to find a better R2 but am more than happy to roll. Preseason watch for rookies is the no brainer.

  17. Jacob says:

    DEF Adams, Hurley, Tuohy, McGrath, Scharenberg, Ryan BCH Berry, Stewart
    MID DANGER, GAJ, JPK, Gray, Tom Mitchell, O'meara, swallow, mcclugage BCH Powell- Pepper, Myers, florent
    RCK Gawn, Goldstein BCH Cameron
    FWD Dalhause, Ryder, Elliot, Hoskin-Elliot, Ainsworth, Simpkin BCH McKay, Eddy

  18. Harvey says:

    Hey lads, good to be back for SuperCoach 2017! Thoughts on my team would be great.

    DEF: Simpson, Shaw, Laird, McGrath, Berry and Ryan (Long and Stewart)
    MID: Danger, Pendles, Bont, Fyfe, Heppell, Swallow, Brodie and Myers (Powell-Pepper, Fisher and Graham)
    RUC: Gawn and Goldy (Strnadica)
    FWD: Dahlhaus, Deledio, Heeney, Taranto, McCluggage and Bowes (Williams and Eddy)

    11.5k left with a not so good bye structure of (R9) 5, (R11) 9, (R12) 4, (R13) 11. Cheers!

  19. Krups says:

    Not a lot of teams having Omeara????

    • Billy says:

      To big of a risk

      • Gaveday says:

        Omeara ? Locked in.

        • jockreynolds says:

          Expected more JOM in teams as well lads!

          • Harvey says:

            Swallow looking like the better option. Previously had JOM but his injury history keeps me worried.

            • Tim says:

              Yeah a lot of people are staying clear of JOM only because of the history of his injury more commonly seen in NFL the average amount of games played coming back from an injury like that is 45 but that was between 1994-2004

    • Kev says:

      Lacks some star power, gaveday. No Danger, Pendles, Hanners/JPK. Backline needs Shaw or Doc at D1

      • Gaveday says:

        The stars will come when the Rockies emerge – however my midfield is locked

    • Luskin Star says:

      Id consider moving Bennell to the fwds. If he scores 105 its an ok score for a mid but a great score for a fwd.

      • AMAC says:

        Bennell did his calf (again) in training. (fact.)
        Bennell was out with Yarran. (Rumour I just made up! ๐Ÿ˜‰ )

  20. Steeeve says:

    Back: Shaw, Laird, Adams, JJ, rooks
    Mid: Danger, Pendles, Hanners, Fyfe, Beams, D Swallow, rooks
    Ruck: Goldy, Sandi, rookie fwd/ruck
    Fwd: Dahl, Heeney, Wingard, Ryder, rooks

    • Keenbutclueless says:

      Think Beams is M6 at best. Personally think having all three of Heeney, Wingard and Ryder in your forward line is a huge risk. Would suggest trying to get one more premium mid in there at the expense of one or more of these three

      • Steeeve says:

        Hoping there is money to be made in the mids.

        The forward line is a mess but I like Wingard and Ryder. Wingard has averaged 110 then 890 then 100 then 80. Surely he lifts again this year. Ryder can finish up as F7 ruck cover. And think Heeney will be the NUMBER ONE FORWARD.

  21. psycho muppet says:

    JJ, Tuohy, hibberd, S May, Bob Murphy L Keefe

    Danger,Pendles, Heppell, Seb Ross, M Murphy, D Beams, D Swallow A McGrath ( really want him in defence with my def/mid swing on the bench)

    Grundy/ Sandi

    Macrae,Heeney, Hrovat,T Boyd, C Mcarthey Mcluggage

    • Morrow says:

      I like your team for being different mate but reckon you'll be doing lots of sideways trading when the season begins.

      Will Hibberd/May/Keefe/Heppell/Ross/Murphy/Hrovat all be top 8 in their respective areas? or are they cash generation selections? IF they are neither I don't think they warrant a spot in your team! Maybe one or two of them but think you've got too many "maybe" breakout contenders.

      Good luck for the season.

  22. Westy says:

    Does no one want Jobe?

    • jockreynolds says:

      There's a few too many question marks around him mate. A very big chance that he's lost his desire which is understandable

      • Scouser says:

        Hey Jock, conversely do you think that he might also have a burning desire to set the record straight in a swansong season?

        Banned last season, handed his brownlow back amd captain of one of the biggest and proudest clubs in the land who will need to work hard to remove that dark dank smear of their guernseys. I'm thinking he may have more to prove than anyone and could come out of the blocks on fire, can't see him sustaining it if he does but could offer a very nice step up to a ultra-premo early on.

        Personally I feel he is too much of a Clubman to line up round 1 if his heart or head wasn't in it (handing back his chas shows this to me) so is in my thoughts currently and will watch keenly during nab as significant value there in early scores and $$ to ignore.

        • jockreynolds says:

          Scouser – I've been around the block too many times to not pay significant heed to and of your opinions mate. It is bloody fantastic to see you in here and raise a good point. He is a proud man and a man of character there's no arguments there. The possibility of using him as a potential stepping stone to a premo is interesting. I'll be leaving him alone at this stage but you've got me thinking you brilliant beautiful bastard

  23. TRIGGER HAPPY says:

    Early dayz

    Doc, jj, harlett, murph, hampton, berry. (ryan, newman)
    Danger, jpk, treloar, gray, sloane, fyfe, beams, myers. (scheer, graham, fwd/mid rook)
    Martin, sandi (strand…)
    Dahl, heeney, bennell, mccarthy, bowes,/mclug, Galluci. (Eddy, pickett)

    This is my gun midfield version

    Other option drop a mid sloane maybe to torranto/brodie and upgrade ruck to big maxy.

    Its only Jan so lots of water….

    • Kev says:

      Reckon you need R/F to cover Sandi, Trig.

      Seen Hampton a lot. Don't see where he fits at the Crows. Plenty of competition for his position.

      • Luskin Star says:

        Dont agree on the ruck cover Kev. Dont like having someone in the team to cover for someone else. Its like setting a field in cricket to defend bad bowling. With you on Hampton though.

        • TRIGGER HAPPY says:

          Cheers lusk.

          hampton just thrown in there could be any number of players, could become McGrath or schareberg etc

          Liked martins back end to the season, apparently fixed what was wrong in the pre season. Surely fagan lets him go in the guts by himself and a stinger took out their back up ruck for awhile, if rucking solo and not playing fwd I'm in.

          Sandi I'm hoping makes it to rd 12 where the plan is to upgrade after gawns bye.

    • Luskin Star says:

      I wouldnt make that change mate. Gawn will be cheaper later plus Martin and Sandi are both capable of scoring 105 regulalrly. Martin was injury impacted last year.

      • I N Pieman says:

        No Pendles trigger! Hartlett is an interesting one, could be gold could burn you. I'm not sure about him

        • TRIGGER HAPPY says:

          Cant afford them all INP need another 50-60k to go sloane – pendles.
          danger lock, jpk figure he has 5-10 more points per game now tmitch gone, gray pod big fan, treloar just getting started, fyfe improving every day – value, sloane can go big but would love to change to pendles.
          guess if a cheapo rook performs during preseason could dowwngrade a excy rook and upgrade to pendles.
          Hartlett yeah not sure either but need to save some cash to afford all those mids calculated risk guess

          • Moustachio says:

            Don't see any evidence of Titch stealing points from JPK… RGray maybe better as upgrade target after his bye (can see whether he is gonna crack the shits again this year).

  24. Vchap says:

    Do people think jarrod witts is to expensive for ruck cover? Leaning towards him as im not convinced by any of the rf options and would much rather have that extra midfider in the forward line

    • The Bont says:

      I think he's a huge shot mate , Nicholls will go down and they'll throw Witts through . As far as price might be a bit much for r3 , if you have sandi better off having Ryder in the fwd line to cover , if you've gone goldy and Gawn would go darcy Cameron from the swans at 117k .
      Ohh and also my team
      Back – docherty , heater, joey , Ryan , berry , Newman
      Middle – danger , pendles , hanners , titchell , beams , swallow, Myers
      Forward- Dahl , macrae , heeney , Bowes , black , eddy

    • Moustachio says:

      More a case of being too shite.

  25. Kyle says:

    I don't like any fwds so far so waiting on rookies to pop up and hopefully rest of field makes up the points. Purely keepers from the get go as every year I seem to sideways trade.

    Doch, shaw, Adams,laird, JJ, Ryan

    Danger,hanna, Bont, Fyfe, Heppell, beams, Meyers, rookie

    Gawn, goldy

    Dahl, heeney, rookie rookie rookie rookie.

    C'mon fwd gems!

    • Jib Jib says:

      That's bold. Really going to leave your knackers swinging in the breeze if no decent rookie fwds step up

  26. Luskin Star says:

    Got 200k put aside for when Pieman convinces me to pick McGraph and Luggage but until then here is my team

    Doc, T Adams, Hurley, Thurlow, Scharenberg, Berry, ryan, Newman
    Danger, Pendles, Merritt, Cripps, Fyfe, Beams, O'Meara, Swallow, myers, scheer, Graham
    Sandi, Giles, doughnut valued at 102000
    Dahlhaus, lids, Bennell, Knight, Thomas, Williams, long, eddy

    • I N Pieman says:

      I think when preseason games begin you won't need me to convince you on McGrath & luggage. That's a very deep midfield Luskin!!! But I like it

      • Gaveday says:

        Problem with Giles is Lycett is back after 3-4 rounds isn't he? Vardy could always get the nod too….

        • I N Pieman says:

          Think you'll find Lycett might be a little longer than that. Giles would have to do some big convincing to role the dice in him

          • Luskin Star says:

            Lycett expected back around time of byes. By then Giles will have had 3 games where he might score about 70 and 8 where 90 is possible. That will do me for less than 300k. Intend trading to Gawn, Goldy or Martin ( if he has recaptured 2015 form) at that stage.

      • Moustachio says:

        They'd have to average 80 to justify the price, much safer ways to make cash that will also leave you cash to buy the top premos.

        PS Hope Mccluggage is on a serious peptide program over summer, you look at his height/weight he is a string bean. Doubt he will line up r1.

  27. Stewy_the_Swan says:

    My team atm:
    Def – Doc, JJ, Mills plus rookies (McGrath, Witherden, Stewart, Hinge, Ryan)
    Mid – Danger, JPK, Neale, Sloane, O'Meara, Swallow plus rookies (Berry, SPP, Myers, Drew, Graham)
    Ruck – Gawn, Martin (Cameron)
    Fwd – Dalhaus, McCrae, Lynch, Heeney, Nankervis(Ruck DPP) plus rookies (McCluggage, Pickett, Eddy)

    Rookies obviously subject to change.

    • Keenbutclueless says:

      No Fyfe? Neale is in for back surgery. Like the Mills selection

      • Luskin Star says:

        Mills is definately going under the radar. Swans have said he and Heeney likely to share Mitchell role.

      • Stewy_the_Swan says:

        Thanks. Didn't see that news on Neale

  28. Stirlsy says:

    Backs; Adams, Laird, Z.Willams, McGrath, Newman, Ryan….Bench; Hewett, O'Riordan

    Mids; Danger, Pendles, Sloane, Fyfe, T.Mitchell, Beams, Swallow, Myers…. Bench; Hibberd, Freeman, Dawson

    Rucks; Goldy, Sandi…. Bench; Strnadica

    Fwds; Kennedy, Dahlhaus, Heeney, Ryder, Bowes, Leonardis…..Bench; Beech, Long

    • Keenbutclueless says:

      Reckon you could swap Kennedy for one more premium defender. I think the premo options in Defence are more solid than the forward line. Kennedy especially as a KPP in a team that might see supply reduced with no NicNat.

      • Stirlsy says:

        W/Coast shark ok, and im expecting them to go ok even without NicNat, they were up and down last year with him, they will float around 5th most of the year, im in the west and see plenty of them JK avg 98 last year so he will be in the mix, early days yet plenty will change and i don't expect many will start with him. So he stays for now.

    • Derek says:

      Zac Dawson isn't a midfielder!!!

  29. Tim says:

    Docherty Adams McGrath Sharenberg Berry Newman Ryan Stewart
    Dangerfield Pendlebury Hannebery Treloar Bontempelli Fyfe Beams Swallow Powell-Pepper Myers Graham
    Gawn Sandilands Strnidica
    Dahlhouse Heeney Ryder McLuggage Bowes Bolton
    Smith Eddy

    • Keenbutclueless says:

      Reckon you could afford to bat deeper in Defence and lighter in the forward line. Personally would swap Doch and Heeney for two solid premos in Defence

  30. wombatsfc says:

    A couple of differences from the others but really I'm just playin until the end of JLT. Some of these guys are rookies and without an upgrade they're ineligible to play but we can always hope

    Doch, Montag, ZacW, Marchbank, Vickers-Willis-Brophy-Schberg-Ryan
    Danger, Pendle, Gaz, Fyffe, Heppell, JOM, DSwallow, Myers, Leonardis-Brown-Graham
    Max & Steph
    NRiewoldt, Dahlhouse, Heeney, McCarthy, Pickett, Smith, Black-Eddy

  31. Keenbutclueless says:

    Def. Adams, Laird, JJ, Hartlett, Scharenburg, Ryan (Stewart, Newman)
    Mid. Danger, JPK, Treloar, Rockliff, Fyfe, T Mitchell, Swallow, Myers (SPP, Freeman, Graham)
    ruck. Gawn, Sandi (Strndica)
    Fwd. Dahl, Ryder, McCluggage, Knight, Bowes, Turner (Rioli, Eddy)

    50k left to find room for McGrath if need be

    • Luskin Star says:

      Rocky is interesting. If Beams holds up his output could fall. In the games they have played together Rocky averages 100 only. Way down on what he does with no Beams.

      • Keenbutclueless says:

        Hmm that's a great insight. Thanks. Rocky was my Bruyn manoeuvre for 2017. His early draw made him a great VC/ Capt option with Danger. I actually had dreams of him hitting 700k and selling him off. Might put Selwood in instead. Great for the bye structure. Thanks again for the insight.

        • The German says:

          Hartlett is interesting. Big POD, but will he score well? Is he going to be a top 10 by season end? I like your other three
          top priced, perhaps try to bring one of those up to Doc or Shaw. Hard to do that though.

          I've had enough of Rocky, burned too many trades getting rid of him on an injury, then back in when in form 10 weeks later, only to be injured yet again. Massive risk with this guy. Beams will hopefully hold up and will be one of the best steals this year. Unsure on Mitchell also, just unsure on his talent vs the Hawthorn way.

          Rest is pretty solid. Good start, now to restructure about 1000 times before round 1!

      • Moustachio says:

        That's like… 6 games.

    • Stirlsy says:

      Be interesting to see what we (Pies) do with Shaz play him early or bring him on slowly, unsure on pies back 6 set up they look light on to me and Bucks wont have a job next year because of it.
      You look light on with the fwds.

  32. Jib Jib says:

    Like everyone else my team is really just speculative ATM. My final structures will depend on the availability of quality rookies come rd one. This year I will try to stuff as many into my team as possible even if it means being slightly unbalanced for the first few weeks.

    Adams Laird JJ McGrath Scharenberg Newman (Ryan Stewart)
    Danger Pendles Zerrett Bont Fyfe Beams Swallw Luggage (SPP Myers Graham)
    Gawn Goldy (Hunter)
    Dahl Heeney Boyd Stewart Black Pickett (Smith Eddy)

    • Luskin Star says:

      If you think luggage is good enough to be in starting lineup then you should move him to fwds. Whatever he scores will be of more value there.

      • Jib Jib says:

        Just there for structure ATM.

        • JJB says:

          Zerrett wont score as highly as he did in 2016 with all the Ess players back.

          • Jib Jib says:

            Yeah I understand why people think that but I actually think he'll be just as good, hopefully even better. He's arguably Essendon's best mid and he's not going to lose his spot. This year he proved himself to be a hard ball getting, high disposal, high DE% tackle machine. If he was more of an outside player I'd be more concerned.

            • Jib Jib says:

              Ok this quote today from Guy McKenna re the returning players concerns me:

              “The beauty about the big tractors coming back in is those lighter fellas – Darcy, even ‘Junior’ Merrett … instead of putting his head in the trough all the time, he can get some ball on the outside and really hurt the opposition.”

              Positional change for Zerrett coming up?

  33. Keenbutclueless says:

    See a lot of teams with Docherty. Really think that's a steep price for a defender. He has only produced one year of that level. Given the other solid options in Defence, plus the likelihood that his price will come down, really think he is an upgrade option and spend the money on a proven mid premium.

    • Luskin Star says:

      It was his 4th season and his average has gone up each year. Factory in also that there is nothing to suggest a role change and it doesnt smell like a fluke to me.

      • Jib Jib says:

        Agree his score is no fluke and I expect him to be in the top 3 defenders this year, but I also agree with Keenbutclueless and I'll be waiting for his price to come down.

        • I N Pieman says:

          The fact is he is priced at a price he's never ever achieved. He's coming down. No doubt about it. That's when you strike

    • Moustachio says:

      I am not afraid to say that I immediately discount any team proposing to start Doc. There's just no value there.

  34. AdamSorrenti says:

    Heath Shaw
    Matthew Boyd
    Jason Johannisen
    Jarrod Berry
    Alex Witherden
    Ben Long
    Luke Ryan
    Tom Stewart

    Patrick Dangerfield
    Josh P. Kennedy
    Joel Selwood
    Marcus Bontempelli
    Tom Mitchell
    Lachie Hunter
    Sam Powell-Pepper
    David Myers
    Dylan Clarke
    Kobe Mutch
    Shai Bolton

    Max Gawn
    Brodie Grundy
    Luke Strnadica

    Luke Dahlhaus
    Jack Macrae
    Isaac Heeney
    Hugh McCluggage
    Jack Bowes
    Aaron Black
    Jarrod Pickett
    Brett Eddy

    • Keenbutclueless says:

      Think you should name your team "The Kennel ", with all those Bulldogs. Your Rd 11 Bye lineup will be a mess with 9 premos missing (assuming you count Hunter as a premo).

  35. In the Nick of time says:

    DEF: JJ, Laird, Zilliams, Scharenberg, Newman, L Ryan, T Stewart, Witherden
    MID: Danger, Fyfe, Bont, JJK, Sloane, Beams, D Swallow, S Powell-Pepper, D Myers, J Pickett, J Berry
    RUC: Gawn, Ryder, Strnadica
    FWD: Dahl, Lynch, Heeney, J Stewart, Bowes, McCluggage, W Rioli, B Eddy

    Looking to take a few risk this season, early days of course but what are your thoughts on J Steele (in place of Heeney, could easilt replace McCluggage though?), Coniglio (in place of Fyfe), or Viney in place of Sloane.

    Thanks in advance lads!

  36. Holty says:

    Hi all,
    Where is everyone getting the prices from? Has supercoach 2017 site opened?

  37. HoleyFrijoles says:

    Docherty, Shaw, Adams, Johhanisen, McGrath, Scharenberg — Ryan, Stewart
    Dangerfield, Pendlebury, Bontempelli, Fyfe, Beams, Swallow, AInsworth, Berry — Powell-Pepper, Myers, Bolton
    Gawn, Sandilands — Strnadica
    Dahlhaus, Heeney, Ryder, McCluggage, Bowes, Black — Pickett, Eddy

    $55,600 remaining

    Only 5 players between 250k and 500k, of which 4 should be keepers (Beams, Sandilands, Heeney & Ryder, with Swallow needing an upgrade).

    Byes for keepers:
    B: 11×2, 13×2
    M: 11×2, 12×1, 13×2
    R: 11×1, 13×1
    F: 9×1, 11×2


    • Tim says:

      Sandy and Ryder may need an upgrade, heeney, beams are locks

    • Danners says:

      Solid Holey. Probably would consider Ainsworth as a forward since you already have a DPP in Bolton in your midfield. Brodie could be a better option still early days though.

  38. Matt Robison says:

    Initial team for 2017 is:
    DEF: Adams, Vince, Hartlett, K.Kolodjashnij, McGrath, Scharenberg BENCH: Witherden, Ryan
    MIDS: Treloar, Rockliff, Bontempelli, Fyfe, Heppell, O'Meara, D.Swallow, Myers, BENCH: Brodie, Powell-Pepper, Pickett
    RUCKS: Grundy, Nankervis BENCH: English
    FWDS: Macrae, Heeney, Ryder, Petracca, Ellis-Yolmen, McCluggage BENCH: Lyons, Jarman

    • Keenbutclueless says:

      A very different looking team! I think what it is missing is Captain options. I was strong on Rockliff also, but received some good advice re his average when Beams plays. See above. Basically leaves you with Fyfe.

      • Matt Robison says:

        Was thinking Treloar as Captain… starting to become more consistent with only 6 scores under 100+ last year and a season low of 73. Coming into his prime. I initially had Patty Cripps in place of Rockliff prior to the back injury.

      • Moustachio says:

        Was not good advice due to being based on very low number of games, not to mention whether either of them were carrying injuries.

      • jockreynolds says:

        Love the POD team Keen! Midfield especially – LOVE the thing mate.

    • Stirlsy says:

      yep that team is way out of the norm

  39. The German says:

    Alrighty lads, first shot at it. Rookies will come and go as season approaches, but, here's my take on it:

    DEF: Shaw, T Adams, Tuouy, McGrath, Scharenberg, Hampton (Newman, Ryan)
    MID: Danger, Pendles, Kennedy, Fyfe, Beams, S Selwood, Pet-Set, McLuggage (Myers, SPP, Berry)
    R: Gawn, Jacobs, (Strnadica)
    F: Dhouse, Heeney, T Miller, Ryder, Ainsworth, A Black (Pickett, S Bolton).

    Going for Tuouy for a POD. Same goes with Selwood, who's back and fit.

    • Keenbutclueless says:

      I'm in the Touk Miller is a trap camp. Maybe cos I got burned by Lonergan last year. Other than that, really solid.

      • The German says:

        Yep, agree with you here. I guess these type of variable players will come and go by season start. We are really stuck with Mid type players in the forward line. Unless something pops up, may stick with him, though depending on preseason form and role more so.

        • I N Pieman says:

          I'm also in the touk Miller is a trap camp. Pretty solid indeed German. I wrote on a piece for jock on SPP, have a read. He's not a bloke you want on the field. And no swallow? Interesting

          • The German says:

            Yes, I think he's one of the guys that will be on the in/out of my team throughout the preseason. Looking for a good option in the price range that Miller has. Or less should that be.

            Love your writeup on SPP. Will keep him on the bench for sure. I've also upgraded Pet-Set to Swallow. However, that leaves me with a risky four in the midfield; Beams, Fyfe, S Selwood and Swallow. I think Selwood and Fyfe should be ok, the other two are a risk due to injury.

            Thanks for the feedback!

    • Luskin Star says:

      If miller gets a lot of mid time he is a great pick. Do t think he will though. Suns have Ablett, Barlow, Hanley, Swallow, Fiorini, Hall, rischitelli, lyons, lomergan and all tne rookies they grabbed.i think the only one there he will definately be higher in pecking order than is lonergan

  40. Alferton says:

    Hi all.
    See Rance or Laird in a fair few teams. Thoughts on best.option or go with both? Very new to super coach. Thanks.

    • Luskin Star says:

      Welcome to supercoach. Be warned it takes over your life. Think you want both in your team at the end of the year. So if you can afford both i would. If picking one would go for laird. He is going into yr5 while rance is going into yr9 so you would expect more improvement on previous year from laird.

    • Danners says:

      I start with both last year and both should be fairly good options again this year. Can't really see them drop in average too much

  41. Woodman says:

    Def: Docherty, Rance, Hurley, Hartlett, Hampton.C, Berry.J (Rice.B, Ryan.L)
    Mid: Dangerfield, Pendlebury, Kennedy, Gray, Fyfe, Beams, Swallow.D, Myers.D (Barrett.J, Gore.D, Freeman.N)
    Rck: Gawn, Sandilands (Strnadica.L)
    Fwd: Dahlhaus, Heeney, Ryder, Bowes.J, Pickett.J, Eddy.B (Black.A, Brown.C)

    • Keenbutclueless says:

      Solid team. Only question is on the rookies- have you left enough room for some of the Premo rookies like McGrath and McCluggage? You are relying on the cheaper ones to get you through.

      • Woodman says:

        That's a valid point. Ive only got $600 to spare so I will see how the rookies go in the NAB cup.

  42. abs says:

    my first time commenting on this forum so please take it easy on me ๐Ÿ™‚


    ive gone for 13 keepers , which includes 4 from defence , 5 forwards , and 4 mids ,

    2 rucks and 4 mids will be upgraded , before the bye rounds once their value increases

    i will be completing my backline & forward line with premos once the rookies do their job ๐Ÿ™‚


    B…Docherty ,Simpson ,Adams , Tuohy , ..rookie x 4

    M..Danger , Ablett , Kennedy , Fyfe , Beams , O’meara , Swallow , Myers ..rookie x 3

    R..sandilands, Giles …(strnadica)

    F…Mcrae .Caddy , Wingard , Heeney , Ryder …rookie x 3

    • Luskin Star says:

      Generally like the team. Got issue with Tuohy. .A lot of people picking him on expectation that he will get Enright role but i dont think he is good enough to produce enright numbers.There are 2 Wingards. Depends which one turns up. If the good one does he is a steal

    • Danners says:

      Nice start abs. Probably need a solid premo ruck. Giles and Sandilands probably aren't 100% reliable in my book. Simpson could be mid season upgrade so there is less risk with him. Otherwise nice team

    • jockreynolds says:

      Welcome abs!! Great to see you getting amongst it mate.
      LIKE: Some relative PODs in Tuohy, Ablett, JOM (noone picking him!), Giles i bloody love.

      Like the way you're going about it mate – this is a unique team with great creds.

  43. Derek says:

    I think Defense is very hard this to find value, Defense is always the lowest scoring area and therefore we should spend the least of our starting cash there. Our initial $10m needs to work harder earlier to score points.

    This year there are some great choices for premiums, much better than previous years and the top 10 look clear cut, however i think most of them are over-valued compared to other lines. Initial money would be better spent in other lines and wait for the Defense Premiums to fall in value and pick them up once the cash cows have fattened up.

    Compare Docherty/Simpson/ Shaw/Boyd to Sloane/Gray/Bont/Fyfe for same value. I would initially be going one or even 2 less premium defenders and looking for value in the midfield.

    there does seem to be enough defense rookies (there always is) to fill the starting spots and generate some cash.

    The forward line seems the opposite this year. the top 10 premiums is not clear cut plus there seems to be alot of value with some players who may end up being top 10 premiums by the end of the year. Such as Gunston, Wingard, Heeney, Ryder, Betts, Rioli, Greene, Bennell, Yeo, Petracca. The trick is who?

    I think N Riewoldt & dahlhaus pick themselves, good value and guaranteed top 10 premium keepers.

    there also seems to be a lack of obvious Forward rookies.

    If your feeling like a bit of Mid-price Madness, i think the forward line is where we can have the best rewards.

    The Rucks will be divided into those who have Sandi and those who don't. To me he just represents too much value at $308k (however, i did say that about lobbe last year and TBC the year before – shudder)

    the midfield is just filled with quality, you could throw a dart at the top 30 and not be unhappy with who you get. It just comes down to your structure and how many uber premiums do you start your season with? Previous years i've gone with 5, but i'm thinking 6 or even 7 might be better value this year.

    There is a little bit of value in the midfield, Beams, Murphy & Swallow stand out to me but they come with an injury concern. I started last year with Rocky & B Crouch and my season was shot by week 4, why didn't i listen to all the wise old heads who were warning against picking injury risk players! this year, i'll be the wise old head and warn everyone else…………and then pick Beams.

    My team as it is prior to reading the Jock Reynolds magazine……

    DEF: Adams, JJ, McGrath, Scharenberg, Newman, Ryan, (Rookies x2)

    MIDS: Dangerfield, Pendlebury, JPK, Selwood, Fyfe, The Bont, Beams, Power-Pepper (Rookies x3)

    RUC: Goldy, Sandi

    FWD: N Riewoldt, Dahlhaus, Wingard, Heeney, McCluggage, Black (Rookies x2)

    $20k left.

    • Keenbutclueless says:

      I think there might be a few more forward rookies emerge. Riley Knight, Bowes, Turner – maybe even Matt White. So if you are gambling on Wingard because you think there is not enough rookies, you might be pleasantly surprised.
      Midfield is gold. But I would suggest you reconsider Beams. If you do trust a rookie to replace Wingard, then Beams becomes another uber premium. Which would be consistent with your philosophy outlined.

      • Derek says:

        Beams is there for now as insurance

        • Luskin Star says:

          You have to take the gamble on Beams, he is priced to avg 79. In his last 100 games he has scored more than that 87 times

          • Derek says:

            Agree, he is the Libba of last year. His price alone almost picks him.

            But, I went B Crouch last year instead of Libba, stuffed my start. Could Beams be another Crouch.

            The more I think, the less likely to select.

            • Derek says:

              Taken Beams out and put Docherty in. Extra rookie in Mids.

              Wingard out and R Kight in

              • Moustachio says:

                Points scoring capacity of team just plummeted. Reverse trade.

    • Danners says:

      I do have my fears over Beams and Swallow as well, but they could easily make around $200k if they were to get injured later on. Hurley is a defence premo with some value. Nice looking team, I suppose rookies will come along in time

    • Steeeve says:

      I'm thinking the backline is offering more certainty than other lines and so I am taking a different path. Set and forget down back — four premos in my starting team.
      Who knows which forwards will end up being top six? Lock in Dahl, take a punt on two or maximum three others, load up on rookies.
      I'm taking one more rookie than usual in the guts, as long as good rookie options abound. All the premo midfielders are priced right near their peaks I reckon. Value to be had if you're patient. Just hope you're not too far behind the pack by then.

      • Derek says:

        I did that last year, loaded up defence thinking there were no rookies. Struggled to get decent scores from them.

    • Moustachio says:

      I kind of agree re: fwd vs def. Although we don't know who will be top, there is ridiculous value in fwd eg Dahl, Lids, Bennell, Roughy, Wingard, Heeney. In def there are a lot of guys in contention for top and not much value other than Hartlett.

      In the end though I will max out on top rookies who are named r1, regardless of position, and the rest will fill itself in.

    • Morrow says:

      One of the best wisdoms I've heard Derick!

      Look for Simpson/Shaw/Docherty all to drop…
      My defence so far is an interesting one…. Adams, Williams, Tuohy and Murphy as D1-4… too many risks so far? perhaps. One will surely fall for Simpson as he is just like a fine wine, getting better with age. Ultra consistent.

  44. Jib Jib says:

    I agree with everything you just wrote. However if you load up 6 – 7 premos deep into your midfield aren't you just limiting your access to the best cash generating rookies (typically mid rookies)?

    • Derek says:

      I think those days are gone since the better rookies are now much higher priced.

      Some of the gun rookies in the guts will be $170+ where rookies on other lines will be $120k

      • Derek says:

        It is always a bit of a trade off between cash and points early on. Last year I got too far behind early.

        7 does feel a bit too much, 6 uber premiums would be better.

    • Morrow says:

      I'm going down to 6 this year mate! You used to lose your best cash generating rookies but I agree those days are more limited now.. Load up on the high scoring promo's and get ahead of the pack with points and pick the right ones in defence/forward.

  45. wombatsfc says:

    Docherty/Simpson/Shaw/Boyd SMASHED Sloane/Gray/Bont/Fyffe by more than 1,000 points in 2016. Maybe that theory of yours would be a good anchor for that little boat

    I like your m1-6 and f1,2,4 but I hope that your defense is a joke

    • Logan says:

      Perhaps the reason that the defence smashed the midfield by 1000 was because Fyfe had played just 5 games? Not a SuperCoach freak but seems logical.

    • Derek says:

      We only need a starting team for now, obviously I will improve my defence once cows have fattened and the overpriced defence premiums have fallen.

      Hopefully early points lost in defence will be picked up elsewhere.

    • Moustachio says:

      They also have about 1000 years more of age. Risky times to pay full price for Simpson, Shaw and Boyd. Then you have Doc who has exactly one good season under the belt, plenty of others who have failed to follow up similar.

  46. Boltons Blues says:

    Im always the vanilla type of team dude, straight forward, 0 curve balls and dont get sucked into the mid price hype (Sheridan last year etc)

    Doc, Laird, JJ, Hibbered, Marchbank – Rookie x3
    Danger, Bont, Fyfe, Pendles, JPK, JOM, Swallow – Rookie x 4 (JOM and Swallow pending preseason gametime, if they get minutes they are in my team, dont care about form, i want hours into those legs)
    Giles, Sandi – Loophole x1 (cheap and should get some decent points if both are fit, both will be #1 rucks in fit which helps)
    Dahl, Macrae, Ryder, Heeney – Rookie x 4

    • AMAC says:

      nice strategy and should finish around 10,000th.
      16 trades without injury assuming 200k growth of each rookie = highly unlikely.
      Far too benign to win imo. Nice league winning system though!

      By the way I would love to hear your thoughts on Marchbank? what do Carlton expect this year from him?

      • Boltons Blues says:

        i finished 3k with the same opening strategy last year, nice opinion though.

        you can find all your Marchbank details on

        take it easy ๐Ÿ™‚

    • wombatsfc says:

      I see 11 keepers bolts. I don't understand AMAC's comment on 16 trades (I get 30) and not being top 10,000, at least 3 of your rookies will ave 70 over the first 6 weeks and 2 of them will ave more than 80. Giles Sandi combo is probably a bit weak I hear Kruez has been ripping it up at CHF if it's true he'd be a nice POD

  47. David says:

    My first effort for the year for a Supercoach Team…..for some reason I never go that well in Supercoach….I am a gun at Real Dreamteam where I am regularly in the top 50…..Anyway looking to improve so all comments appreciated and any observations as to different strategies between Supercoach and Real DreamTeam…..Thanks guys and girls.

    TEAM NAME: WinesNPepper
    DEF: S. Docherty, H. Shaw, H. Hartlett, A. McGrath, L. Keeffe, G. Logue (M. Scharenberg, J. Thurlow)
    MID: P. Dangerfield, S. Pendlebury, D. Hannebery, G. Ablett jnr, N. Fyfe, D. Heppell, D. Beams, S. Selwood (H. McCluggage, S. Powell-Pepper, M. White)
    RUC: M. Gawn, A. Sandilands (T. Bellchambers)
    FWD: J. Macrae, P. Ryder, H. Bennell, J. Carlisle, J. Bowes, B. Ainsworth (J. Simpkin, B. Eddy)
    CASH LEFT: $12,700

    • Derek says:

      TBC? Is he still playing

    • David says:

      For some reason on the program i'm using to generate this team I can't pick Dahl as a fwd….would consider him over Macrae…..and M7/8 open to change if form of JOM D Swallow warrants or move Mccluggage onto the field and use money elsewhere….all very early

      • Liam says:

        FanFooty by any chance ?
        If so some of the prices are completely off, would check the real ones.

    • Luskin Star says:

      I think tne big difference in strategy is as a result of the scoring systems. SC rewards impact not just stats. You could get 50 possesions and i could get just 25 but i might outscore you because i won more contested ball and didnt squander if wheras your posessions were uncontested and mostly you kicked it to the other team.Study the scoring and you will soon catch on to the type of player you want.

      • Derek says:

        Rioli has only ever had more than 20 touches twice. Both times he had 21 disposals he scored 145sc.

  48. Jambo says:

    My first attempt to put together a team. Please let me know where I need to work on.

    Def: Docherty, K Simpson, Laird, Montagna, Scharenberg , L Ryan (N Newman, J Smith)
    Mid: Pendlebury, Coniglio, Fyfe, Bont, Beams, Fiorini, Powell-Pepper, J Bowes, (Barrett, Pickett, Myers)
    Rck: Grundy, Sandilands (Witts)
    Fwd: Macrae, Gunston, Heeney, Knight, Billings, S Bolton (Eddy, Durdin)

    • Danners says:

      Nice start Jambo, tooth length maybe the problem. Simpson (probably out do himself again), Montagna, Sandilands could pay off though. Maybe better options than Fiorini though like Swallow maybe Jaeger bomb. Otherwise nice start

      • Jambo says:

        Jaeger bomb is more likely to blow up in our faces. I hope to be proven wrong though.

    • Derek says:

      I'll be keeping close eye on Knight

  49. Rick Grimes says:

    So far (only changed it about 10 times today..):

    Docherty, Heater, Laird……..rookies
    Pendles, JPK, Neale, Sloane, Bont, Conigilio …..rookies
    Goldy, Martin….rookie
    Dalhaus, Lynch, Heeney………rookies

    I'm trying to avoid the mid price madness. So much value but I was ravaged by injuries last season. I;m sure that will chance again by lunch time.

  50. Danners says:

    Just occurred to me that the preseason games are only a month away! Time definitely flies. Whipped up Supercoach team and this is what I have so far.
    Def: Docherty, Adams, Vince, Hurley, Hampton, Vickers-Willis (Ryan, Stewart)
    Mid: Dangerfield, Sloane, Life, Heppell, Beams, Swallow, SPP, Myers (Wigg, Bolton, Graham)
    Ruck: Goldstein, Grundy (Strnadica)
    Fwd: Dahlhaus, Macrae, Gunston, Wingard, McKay, Lamb (Long, Eddy)
    $8600 in the bank

    • Keenbutclueless says:

      I think that Heppell at M4 is a little light. Really think that M4 should be someone who is guaranteed top 10 at year end. Not sure Heppell will be.

      Two things to consider;

      Downgrade Docherty to a 520k premo and upgrade Heppell to a uber premo, hoping to buy Docherty cheaper later

      Or, downgrade Gunston and Wingard to rookies and bring in a uber Mid

      • Derek says:

        I agree on Heppell. Was in my initial team, but not sure he is top 8 midfielder, even without missing a year.

        Pay the price and go Uber

    • Kyle says:

      Don't go near gunstan. Ceiling not very high and when you need him he's not there.

    • Morrow says:

      I agree Heppell at M4 is light as..
      Docherty over priced and only one good season in his belt.

      Love Grundy,

      Too much risk not enough reward on offer with Macrae, Gunston and Wingard.

  51. richard says:

    The Locks according to community so far
    B T.Adams
    M Danger Pendles Bont Fyfe Beams O'meara Swallow
    R Gawn Gold
    F Dahl

  52. Mac says:

    G'day Fellas back for yet another year of Supercoach.

    Thoughts much appreciated.

    Docherty, Laird, JJ, McGrath, Ryan, Logue, Newman, Stewart
    Dangerfield, Pendlebury, Selwood, JPK, Fyfe, Swallow, Petrevski-Seton, Powell-Pepper, Myers, Hibberd, Barrett
    Gawn, Goldstein, Darcy
    Dahlhaus, Macrae, Heeney, McCluggage, Long, Rioli, Eddy, Smith

    • Keenbutclueless says:

      rock solid team. Only weakness seems to be your on field rookies in the forward line. That seems a little thin. Rest is awesome

      • Mac says:

        Thanks for the feedback Keenbutclueless, I as most of us are in the dark regarding rookies at this point in time. They are only place holders, and will most likely only be selected when the teams are announced for the first round of games. NAB challenge will be when we can unearth the rookie options who are a chance to line up round 1 for their respective sides.

        Cheers Mac

        • I N Pieman says:

          Nice team Mac. I think you've got a grasp of the relevant rookies at this point. They will of course change over the preseason.

          • Mac says:

            Cheers Pieman, as I said rookies will change frequently. I like the look of your team above also.

    • Derek says:

      Very solid team.

  53. Logan says:

    Gday fellas, excited for another year of SuperCoach in 2017 after finishing in the top 800 last year, hopefully I can improve to the top 500.

    Defence: Simpson, Adams, Laird, Hibberd, Rookie, Rookie// Rookies

    Midfield: Dangerfield, Pendlebury, JPK, Fyfe, Shiel, Mcluggage, Myers, Rookie /// Rookies

    Ruck: Gawn, Goldstein/// Rookie

    Forward: Dalhaus, Macrae, Bennell, Rookie, Rookie, Rookie// Rookies

    • Logan says:

      Side note: One of the rookies in defence is McGrath and I have 20 k remaining. Thoughts much appreciated.

      • Mac says:

        Is Bennell still injured? Knew he was going overseas for surgery?

        • Logan says:

          They say that he should be ready for the pre season games.

          • Mac says:

            Solid team, I personally don't like Hibberd. Don't think he will be one of the top 10 defenders come season end so you have to burn a trade to get rid of him.

            • Derek says:

              I think the top 10 defenders are pretty clear cut. Hibberd not one of them

  54. Freddy says:

    Doc, JJ, Williams, Hibberd, Logue, Berry (Newman, Ryan)

    Dangerfield, Pendlebury, Kennedy, Bontempelli, Fyfe, McGrath, Powell-Pepper, Myers (Hibberd, Parfitt, Graham)

    Gawn, Sandi (Cameron)

    Dahlhaus, Stevens, Heeney, Nankervis, McCluggage, Gallucci (LeBois, Long)

    • fatboyfat7 says:

      Who's Stevens?

      • fatboyfat7 says:

        Apologies, didn't realise he was DPP!

        • Freddy says:

          Yeah, I was pretty happy when I found it. I reckon he's going to be huge for St Kilda in 2017

          • Derek says:

            There are 2 Stevens from Saints. Are you thinking of the right one?

    • Freddy says:

      My team is already different to this. I can't stop shifting and changing! I guess I'll have a better idea after the Community series pending round 1 selections.

  55. Steeeve says:

    Just had a comment deleted by admin! Didn't think there was anything controversial about it. Might have sworn and not thought twice about it. I'm thinking it might have been because I said I was considering going into next year with NO GAWN and NO GOLDY haha.

    Loving these teams lads, even if none of them will look remotely similar by February, let alone round one!

  56. Steeeve says:

    Here's two teams I've just made, which do you prefer and also did either give you an aneurysm haha?

    Team one: Premo and rookie
    Backs: Shaw, Laird, Adams, Johannieson (rookies)
    Mids: Danger, Pendles, Hanners, Fyfe, Bont, Beams, Swallow (rookies)
    Rucks: Goldstien, Sandi (rookie)
    Fwds: Dahlhaus, Heeney, Ryder (rookies)

    Team two: Midprice madness
    Backs: Laird, Johannieson, Adams, Hartlett (rookies)
    Mids: Danger, Treloar, Bont, Fyfe, Gaff, Jaeger, Swallow (rookies)
    Rucks: Martin, Sandi (rookie)
    Fwds: Dahlhaus, Heeney, Wingard, Ryder (rookies)

    • Graham says:

      Team A by far Steeeve.
      You bat 4 deep in defence, 7 deep in mids in both teams.
      Only sacrifice is in the fwds where you've added Wingard. I think you could make those points up later in the season when the fwd premos show themselves.

  57. Big G says:

    why no love for Rocky? We all know he finishes hard, but he can go big like no other in a still weak midfield.

    • Aaron says:

      I think too many people (myself included) have been burned one time too many with Rockliffs durability issues. At 600K odd its hard to choose a player i cant trust to stay on the park. Personally ill be looking at him as an upgrade target provided he looks fit.

    • Keenbutclueless says:

      I had Rocky in. Received some good advice that he averages less than 100 when Beams is playing. So Beams return might diminish Rocky's scoring. I also looked back at last two years.
      Rd1. 71
      Rd2. Out
      Rd3. Out
      Rd4. 57
      Rd5. 0 (yes, was injured)
      Rd6. 97
      Rd7. 91
      Then came good

      Rd1. 89
      Rd2. 48
      Rd3. Out
      Rd4. Out
      Rd5. 83
      Rd6. 117
      Rd7. 41 injured
      Back in Rd11

      So even though they look like they might have a friendly draw early, the Beams factor and his slow starts for the last two years have changed my mind

    • Butcher of the ball says:

      If Rocky gets on top of his injury issues this off season he could really catch people off guard.
      Looks to a slimmed down a touch more, maybe help those skinny legs?
      Nearly no one will start him but the payoff of a fit Rocky as a pod could be greater than that of Fyfe or Ablett.

      Watching the Lions very closely this preseason.
      IIRC Rocky's stats alongside Beams (though a small sample) and pretty good, i remember looking into that last year or something.

      • Moustachio says:

        Rocky actually looks in the shape of his life, ie not fat. Am watching with some interest too, but at 600k and already starting enough VC/C options I will probably wait til after his bye.

      • Luskin Star says:

        You are right it is only a small sample (9games) but when rocky and beamsplay together rockys average is only 100. Beams averages 113 in those games.

  58. Fisha says:

    Back: Docherty, Rance, Laird, rookies
    Mid: Danger, Pendles, JPK, Zorko, Murphy, S. Selwood, Swallow, Myers, rookies
    Ruck: Gawn, Sandi, rookie
    Fwd: Dahl, Heeney, Higgins, Ryder, rookies

    Taking some risks (higgins, murphy, selwood) but I'm happy with Zorko as a POD now with Beams back to give some support.
    Thoughts? Dont know if I need a decent D4

  59. Eric_the_Red says:

    Great to see the community back for another year. Although awkwardly priced, what are people's thoughts on Menegola from the Cats? Should get some mid time. Mature body. Showed glimpses last year. Thoughts?

    • AMAC says:

      Not top 10 material and won't grow fatter than a rookie, therefore has no relevance imo.

    • hedski says:

      Agree with AMAC but like the way he goes about it for the cattas

    • Derek says:


      I would consider the other two boom rookies from last year, Petracca and Hopper. Both are FWD, under $400k and will play midfield.

    • Luskin Star says:

      I had him penciled in but then the prices came out. Nope.

  60. Martin says:

    Docherty Heath Shaw Taylor Adams Kolodjashnij McGrath Scharenberg bench Newman Ryan

    Danger Pendlebury Fyfe Heppell Beams Murphy Powell-Pepper Barrett Bench Myers Freeman Graham

    Goldy Grundy bench Strnadica

    Dahlhaus Heeney Ryder Menzel Bowes Ridley Bench Allison Bolton

    I would like the community's thoughts on this I have 68.8 k left over

    • Derek says:

      I count 10 season long keepers.

      Think you should set up with at least 12

      • Martin says:

        Thanks I take that with some thought I try to do the guns and rookies structure

  61. Derek says:

    JJ or Shaw?

    Parker or The Bont?

    N Riewoldt or Macrea?

    If Price didn't matter?

    • @t_woof says:

      Shaw, Parker, and please yourself.

    • Liam says:

      Shaw, Parker, McCrae.

    • Krups says:

      Bont ( Parker hurt his knee or something?)

    • Moustachio says:

      If price matters, JJ. If not then Shaw.

      Bont over Parker either way (Bont cheaper, should average similar to Parker, Parker has had post season surgery).

      Macrae over NRoo either way (may go 105 next year as very young, NRoo a gun but risky with getting old).

  62. @t_woof says:

    So much JJ love. Seems pretty much priced at his peak.

    Jake Lloyd at 460 is a much better option. Surprised he's only in one team (Beastiano's) so far.

    • Butcher of the ball says:


    • Derek says:

      What do you think about Mills. $420k

      • @t_woof says:

        Good young player, though awkwardly priced for a 2nd year player.

        Probably lands into that 75-85 average again. Not quite a keeper i would think.

        Are you tossing up whether to take a punt on him?

    • Moustachio says:

      Tipping JJ to average 100, therefore a decent amount underpriced (not to must have level tho, esp with inj tendency)

      • @t_woof says:

        That's fair enough mate. The beauty of pre season, so many varied lineups and opinions.

        Priced at 94.4, so i can't see a 5.6 bump as huge value. But if you believe he can play 20+ @ 100.0 then you have to back yourself and go with him for sure. Would think a 100 ave lands him in the top 5 defenders.

        I've got nothing against him, just don't think there is much value in his price off the back of only 13 game 94 year. Grand Final performance no doubt fresh in plenty of people's minds.

        On the contrary, i have Hodge in my early side. Which would disgust plenty.

  63. Butcher of the ball says:

    Very happy to not have Adams as my pod. His upside isn't as big as people think and if history plays true i'll have an advantage to everyone starting him.

    Surprised more people aren't starting Treloar also.

    • Moustachio says:

      Injured himself 3 times last season. Doubtful he is a top defender by total points at seasons end.

      Treloar is right up there for contention for one of my limited midfield slots against the likes of Bont and Titch.

  64. In the Nick of time says:

    v.2 Really liking the look of my team at the moment – obviously a thousand changes will come along between now and Round 1 and the Rookies won't be set in stone for quite some time, but some nice names which I have a lot of confidence in:

    Rance, Laird, Z Williams Ryan
    Lloyd, Scharenberg, Newman Stewart

    Dangerfield, Pendlebury McGrath
    Kennedy, Sloane, Coniglio Berry
    SPP, Myers, Pickett Witherden

    Gawn, Ryder Strnadica

    Riewoldt, Dahlhaus, Lynch W.Rioli
    Bowes, Stewart, Black Eddy

    • Kev says:

      Nice looking setup, Nick. Don't mind the Lloyd selection down back.

      Seen some very strong mids so far, do you think M5 will be deep enough? Not a fan of Ryder at R2

    • Luskin Star says:

      Id move Mcgrath to defence..whatever he scores will be of more value there

    • Morrow says:

      Love the Williams selection (but keep it on the down low) ๐Ÿ˜‰
      I think there's better selections than Rance,. die hard Tiger supporter but he does have the shut down role a few games… Definitely missing Taylor Adams. Look into him, will be top 6 defender. Lock.

      McGrath has to be swung into defence, even with the DPP can't take up a precious midfield rookie spot. You can sort out the swing trading during the season.

      Riewoldt in the forward line. Rate it.

      Good v.2 mate, good luck for the season!

  65. Liam says:

    Is going two forward premos and 7 in the mid viable ?
    I'm not excited with the options in the forward line and there is a lot of value for midfield premos. The problems is the rookies, i'm not sure how the rookies will score in the forward line and do not wan to have a rookie getting 60s when I have a mid rookie on the bench getting 75.

    Cheers Liam.

    • Kev says:

      Finding that balance will be key this year. Won't really have an idea of rookies until we get much closer to season start.

    • Luskin Star says:

      Nothing wrong with that structure. Ive done something similar. In my case iwanted a 3rd premo in fwds but couldnt find one that i fancied. Alot of the rookies avaiable as fwds are likely to get time in mids as well so i wouldnt worry about them.

  66. Adam says:

    Thoughts on Trent McKenzie at 238,600. Heavily discounted due to injury in the past 2 years and in 2013 and 14 averaged over 80 due to his tendency to kick far more than handball.

    • I N Pieman says:

      Not sure how much value is in that price Adam. No chance of a top 10 defender. So he's not a keeper. I'd pick Andy McGrath who's about 30k less. Absolute JET

    • Luskin Star says:

      Mckenzies job security is poor in my opinion

  67. Harvey says:

    Hey lads, good to be back for SuperCoach 2017! Thoughts on my team would be great.

    DEF: Simpson, Shaw, Laird, McGrath, Berry and Ryan (Long and Stewart)
    MID: Danger, Pendles, Bont, Fyfe, Heppell, Swallow, Brodie and Myers (Powell-Pepper, Fisher and Graham)
    RUC: Gawn and Goldy (Strnadica)
    FWD: Dahlhaus, Deledio, Heeney, Taranto, McCluggage and Bowes (Williams and Eddy)

    11.5k left with a not so good bye structure of (R9) 5, (R11) 9, (R12) 4, (R13) 11. Cheers!

    • I N Pieman says:

      Looks pretty good Harvey. Many trades will happen before the byes. So don't be too deterred by them. Looks like you've got a pretty sound knowledge of the rookies. Which is a highly valuable. Although I'd remove Taranto, he won't play a SC friendly role for GWS. If he even gets a game at all. I reckon he's trade bait at the end of the season

  68. gator59 says:

    Hi there fellow supercoachers.. First version for 2017,, would appreciate thoughts please.. cheers

    Backs Docherty Shaw Vince McGrath Berry Newman B. Long Ryan

    Mids Danger Pendles JPK Hanners Trealoar Fyfe Bowes SPP Hewitt Scheer Witherden

    Rucks Goldy Sandi Strnadica

    Fwds N. Riewoldt Dahlhaus Ryder Bowes McInness Eddy T. Smith C. Lyons

    • Keenbutclueless says:

      Strong deep midfield! I really think you will be able to get Docherty cheaper, so I would save some money there. Reckon Roo is overs. His average was pushed (and therefore starting price was pushed up by that 200 point effort in Rd 23). If you look at both of those, maybe you get Swallow at M7, which I think would really round this off. But it is a rock solid team. Would understand why you wouldn't change it!

      • gator59 says:

        Thanks Keen for your thoughts.. I will give a little tweek and see what we come up with.. Cheers mate

  69. Paul says:

    Hi SuperCoach community.

    Last season was my first season ever at SuperCoach and finished 43,432. But to be honest had no idea what I was doing. Have just recently found this site and absolutely loving the player reviews and the team analysis. Have ordered Jock's magazine, so the plan is to finish a lot higher this season. So any feedback would be much appreciated. Thanks.

    Backs: T. Adams, Laird, Z.Williams, Scharenberg, Mitchell Hibberd, Newman, ( Ryan, Long ).

    Mids: Dangerfield, Pendlebury, Hannerbery, Fyfe, Heppell, Beams, Swallow, ( Powell-Pepper, Freeman, Graham ).

    Rucks: Gawn, Sandilands ( Strnadica)

    Forwards: Dahlhaus, Macrea, Heeney, Ryder, McCluggage, Timothy Smith, ( Lebois, Eddy).

    Remaining Salary = $59,300.

    • Paul says:

      Sorry forgot Myers at D8.

    • Keenbutclueless says:

      Nothing wrong with that team. Pretty sure you won't finish so low in 2017 starting with a team like that. Only small concern would be round 11 bye, with Dahlhaus, Heeney and Macrae all missing from your forward line. So maybe Macrae or Heeney for another premo defender.

      • Paul says:

        Thanks Keen. Appreciate your feedback. Definitely a concern the rd11 bye. According to the higginator I have 12 outs. Cheers.

        • Luskin Star says:

          12 outs gives you 18 starters. Going into rd 11 you will have 3 trades. Which gives you the chance to have only 9 outs and 21 starters. Remember only best 18 count.

      • fatboyfat7 says:

        100% what he said ^^ . Have the same issue myself. R11 bye is tough up front. Caddy fits in nicely for me but not 100% sold on him….

    • Morrow says:

      Looks like a great draft team so far mate! Definitely will improve on the 43k rank, I leave you with one question:

      what's the purpose of Heppell in your team? Will he be a top 8 mid or generate cash? If you answer no to either of those questions he shouldn't be in your team R1.

      Good luck for the season!

  70. Adam says:

    With the lack of forward options and plethora of premium mids, def and rucks I am currently considering a strategy consisting of no premiums or Roughy and rookies up forward. An unorthodox strategy that could reap rewards as the forward line would be the only line that needs upgrading before or during the byes. Is it a good idea or should I return to the traditional balanced setup.

    • fatboyfat7 says:

      I'd like to see how you could get 16 premium players in your def, mids and rucks to only need to upgrade the forwards… You must be very confident of the fwd rookies to attempt a strategy with that.

    • Luskin Star says:

      Id go for it. Id go the whole hog though because i seriuosly dont think roughy will be money eell spent.

    • Kev says:

      Nothing wrong with trying it to see how it looks, Adam!

  71. fatboyfat7 says:

    Anyone else finding round 11 bye is making the fwd very awkward….

  72. Vchap says:

    Really surprised by the lack of teams with franklin. A priven forward premium in a yr lacking them.

  73. J_Miester says:

    Hi All,

    Big fall last year and doing early work this year to get back in the action at the pointy end. Appreciate thoughts on first pass for 2017:

    B: Simpson, Shaw, Johannisen, McGrath, Scharenberg, Berry (Otten, Himmelberg)
    M: Dangerfield, Hannerbery, Rockliff, Bontempelli, Fyfe, Beams, D. Swallow, Myers (Power-Pepper, Freeman, Graham)
    R: Grundy, Sandilands (Strnadica)
    F: Riewoldt, Dahlhaus, Ryder, McCullage, Ainsworth, Bowes (Black, Eddy)

    Any tips???


    • Morrow says:

      Looks like a good draft so far mate, probably spending too much coin in defence having both Simpson/Shaw,.. I'd rather go one or the other, heaps of value in defence to save an extra $70k and you can wait till these boys string three games together and go sub $500k (will happen).

      McGrath/Mcluggage/Ainsworth/Bowes are too expensive to all be in the same team, you're losing the extra $70k profit you'll make off the cheaper cash cows in the season and I guarantee there will be rookies $50k less that will average more. But you have the opportunity to trade them down when they arrive before R1.

      Good luck champ!

  74. Luskin Star says:

    Dont like rocky and beams. When they have played together rocky's average is 100

  75. Jono says:

    First crack for 2017! Let us know what you think!

    B: Laird, Adams, Hartlett, Long, Hibberd (nth), Stewart, Newman, Ryan
    M: Danger, Fyfe, Pendles, Kennedy, Rocky, Ablett, Myers, Brodie, Graham, Powell-Pepper, Barrett
    R: Sauce, Sandi, Strndica
    F: Dahlhaus, Riewoldt, Heeney, McRae, Mcluggage, Rioli, Bolton, Eddy

    • Morrow says:

      Decent draft mate, not sure about Hartlett.. is he a top 8 defender end of 2017?

      Sam Jacobs back to his best?

      Rate the forwardd line but reckon you're one premo too deep and no DPP swing. What happens if Sandi goes down R5? Who do you trade him too?

      Good luck for the season boss

  76. Mallee Boy says:

    My first go!
    Comments appreciated.

    B: Docherty, Rance, Adams, Vince, Logue, Hibberd [rookie, rookie]
    M: Danger, Hannas, Gray, Fyfe, Steven, Swallow, Powell-Pepper, McGluggage, Myers rookie, rookie
    R: Goldy, Sandi, Strnadica
    F: Dahlhaus, Macrae, Petracca, Anderson, Knight, Bowes [rookie, rookie]

    • Morrow says:

      One of the better teams I've seen mate!

      Defence in my opinion is probably one too deep, rather find an extra $50k and get another premo in the mid?
      Everyone's on the Docherty train after one good season, some times it's the players you don't pick that are the POD's.

      In saying that, Gray as a POD is genius and I wouldn't even be posting that in your team posts (seriously good POD)

      Petracca finishing as a top 8 forward end of 2017? What's his purpose in the team? Not for mine.
      Again, if Sandy goes down in R5, what do you do? What ruck man do you trade in at around $305k? Need a DPP swing.

      Petracca for Ryder (or Boyd as a POD).

      good luck for 2017.

  77. Benchwarmers says:

    Another team to go with the truckloads already on here, but any thoughts?

    Simmo, Laird, Lloyd, McGrath, Scharenberg, Ryan (Newman/Stewart)
    Danger, Pendles, JPK, Jelwood, Treloar, Fyfe, Myers, SPP (Berry/Pickett/Graham)
    Martin, Big Turf Toe (Strnadica)
    Dahlhaus, Caddy, Heeney, Tommy Boyd, The Luggage, Black (Smith/Eddy)

    Have gone, hopefully, for 3 keepers in Fwd/Backs – Simmo is rock solid, Laird I reckon will remain about the same, and think Lloyd will probably spend a fair bit of time on the wing with Heeney and Mills being used elsewhere, could make top 10 def?. The Dahl will be up there again this year for forwards, Caddy I'm hoping will spend more time in the middle, more contested ball, and like everyone else, reckon Heeney could step up to the next level. Got Boyd in as cover if the big Sandi goes down early, but if the 211 makes enough cash and Maxie drops a bit in value I can upgrade Sandi to the Beard. The keepers in the mids go to M6 I reckon.
    All the rookies could change of course, see how the pre-season games go.

    • Morrow says:

      Symmo's a great pick mate, start him almost every year but $570k is bloody steep as.. think about who you can get in the mid for it, save $50k and lock in Adams.

      JPK – Great.
      Jelwood, is he still a top 8 mid? reckon there's better pods.
      No Beams? Price sells himself.

      Caddy is an interesting selection, I'd be looking elsewhere. Won't be a top 8 forward (honesty hurts some times)
      Tommy Boyd, lock that bloke in.

      Hope that helps, good luck in 2017.

      • Benchwarmers says:

        Thanks mate, always a tough one re rolling the dice on the injury discounts boys like Beams, Adams, Murphy and even the "Shoulders of God".
        Hope all your picks come off mate, the J Bomb a big call, can see where you're coming from re the blokes now gone from the Hawks, want to see him play a couple pre-season games.

        • Morrow says:

          yeah call me crazy, but I'm running with a few roll of the dices at the moment. My team and analysis is posted below! Still struggling to go past Ablett if his ownership is so low…

          Definitely want to see the J Bomb play a few pre-season games but he is value!

  78. Captain Awesome says:

    Am I batshit crazy with so many risky injury prone players with this set up. If they can string a few good weeks together may go ok or am I setting myself up to waste a heap of trades and get my ass whipped
    T Adams. Laird. Hurley. McGrath Berry. Newman
    Ryan. Stewart
    Danger. Ablett. Hannebery. Treloar. Fyfe. Beams. Swallow
    Powell-Pepper. Myers. Graham
    Gawn. Sandilands. Strnadic
    Dahlhaus. Heeney. McLuggage. Bowes. Pickett. Bolton
    Smith. Eddy

    • hedski says:

      Missing a mid Cap A ?

    • Morrow says:

      Not going batshit crazy at all mate! Reckon it's pretty safe compared to my V1.

      Looks solid as, love the weak forward line… definitely the way to go this year if the rooks get named R1.

      Unsure if Hurley's gonna be a top 8 defender,.. better value out there mate! Murphy? 34/ACL but consistent jet at $367k. Ages like a fine wine.

      Treloar? Not so sure about either, rather have Pendles there. Hannebery great early pick.

      Good luck for 2017.

  79. Morrow says:

    V.1 of 2017 teams, any tips and/or roasting of team is appreciated. Finished top 1k two years running and hoping to crack into the top 100 this season. Every player is in there for a reason, so I'm backing them in so far. Midfield is super heavy but I'd rather bank the coin in defence and go for some value.

    Adams, Williams, Docherty, Murphy, McGrath, Scharenberg (Berry, Ryan)

    Adams is a dead set lock and valued nicely.
    Williams is a bloody POD and will be a gem. Back him in.
    Tuohy I'm currently backing in on the basis of Geelong retirements, who becomes the rebounding defender? Averaged 85 at Carlton and blokes who get traded to a different team on average increase their SC points by about 10 points. Add this onto a new rebounding defender role and can see Tuohy averaging 100+ at the Cattery.
    Murphy is an absolute jet. Started him last season, will start him this one at $367k. Value for a bloke who could easily average 90-95+ and end up at D6.

    Danger, Pendles, Gaz, Dusty, Fyfe, Beams, O'Meara, Myers.
    (Brodie, Powell-Pepper, Graham)

    Midfield is based on consistency for the whole season and these blokes will all be top 10 mids by seasons end (barring injury).
    Danger and Pendles locked in and should play the 22,
    Gaz at 18% ownership? Don't even care if he only strings the first five games together (where he normally averages 140) and goes down, you'll leave the other 82% in the dust. He is a Supercoach God. Don't forget it.
    Fyfe/Dusty both out of contract at season end, they'll have their mangers whispering in the ear saying "get the pill and you'll both be on $1mil+ from 2017 onwards". They will go absolutely ham.
    Beams? Don't need to say more.
    O'Meara? Averages 95 odd the two seasons he's put together as a young pup. Huge opportunity at Hawks with Mitchell/Lewis gone, who gets their combined 60 possessions?
    Myers? Refer to Beams comment.

    Gawn, Sandilands (Strnadica)

    R1 is simply, Gawn.
    According to WA news, Sandi is slimming down and ready to get around the ground more. Holds his body together and will be back to his best, expect him to finish right up there. Apparently getting "value" stamped on his forehead during the NAB cup.

    Dahlhaus, Heeney, Roughy, Bowes, Black, Pickett (Stengle, Eddy)

    Dahlhahus, locked in for top 6 forward.
    Heeney will be right in the guts in 2017. Lock.
    Roughy, averaged 96 to 102 in the previous 5 seasons prior to his health scare. Going with my head and heart and want him to come out with a BANG in 2017, reckon he gets back to his best and value at $360k.

    Main change is Ryder/Boyd coming in the forward line as a DPP swing and Simpson sliding in for Tuohy/Williams if I have a change of heart.

    So if anyone has read this, any comments or thoughts would be appreciated! Bring on SC 2017.

    • Morrow says:

      Edit for defence, it's TUOHY not Docherty (stay away from that trap).

    • Derek says:

      I like your team alot, however…

      Not sure about Williams. GWS in for a big year, ball will be in forward line more than defense, will have Heater to contend with.

      Tuohy is a good shout. I personally like the chance of Mills getting midfield time for about the same price, will think about Tuohy now, good comments.

      Bob is too big risk for me. Pass but i would love to see him do well.

      Dusty doesn't match it with the big boys in the midfield. You can get Gray, Sloane, The Bont, Priddis all for the same price as Dusty.

      If Roughy is right for round 1, he is locked in. Not sure he will be ready.

      I like Knight alot more than Bowes.

      good luck

      • Morrow says:

        Cheers Derek,

        I read an unreal article about Z.Williams,.. unable to find it again though? For now I'll track his preseason and see how he goes. I think GWS will go well, but I don't believe they'll go as well as what everyone thinks they will.

        Tuohy is locked and loaded for mine, barring form.

        Murphy's last five year averages: 89, 84, 99, 88, 91, 103. I know he's a huge risk but he's just value, if he comes through he's a cheap as D6. Prior to last year only misses 1-2 games a season.

        I'm liking Dusty as a POD. Contract year, primed to explode I reckon… I'll take him with less than 5% ownership any day.
        Gray will sneak in though, crazy if I don't pick Danger and pick him up when he drops?

        What's the info on Knight?

        Cheers mate.

    • Luskin Star says:

      Dont agree with some of your selections but cant fault the logic except Tuohy, I reckon Thurlow might get the rebou d role.

    • wombatsfc says:

      Geez Morrow you seem pretty certain about your team mate. Why did you post it? You've attempted to justify your every selection and derided every alternative. Sort of looks like you'd like to debate the merits of your selections so I'll give it a go.

      Defense. You had 1 reliable keeper and a potential top 10 in D until you swapped Docherty for Tuohy then you justified it with fairytale about blokes who get traded increasing their average, your calculator must have a virus.
      Adams is a definite 3-week injury in first 6-weeks, if he makes round 1, Bob will play until bye averaging mid 70's and then retire, McGrath, if he plays before round 14, will make less cash than any other defensive rookie and score less than any other D5. You require 4 more premos for a full premo defense. If everybody from your D4 down averages 80 you will only use 7 trades for those upgrades.

      Your midfield isn't too bad except JOM wont play before easter and Beams hasn't completed a full training session for 3-years.

      Gawn & Sandi is OK but risky unless you have planned to cover the potential round five 2-week injury to Sandi that turns into a 5-week injury then a 9-week injury

      Your F1 is good but your F2 is a stepping stone and the rest of your forwards except roughy will need to be upgraded. Pickett and eddy are wise selections but Black and Bowes are wasted cash Bowes is a boy and, in 6-years at a club with the 3rd worst fwd line in the AFL Black's best is an ave of 76, the other 5 in descending order 58, 50,42 and 33 cash him in before round 1 for somebody who'll get a game maybe upgrade him to Troy Menzel his 3-year best is only 51 but he was traded to another club and your research says he'll star, oh wait that was last year and he didn't get a game.

      • Morrow says:

        Nothing wrong with a bit of detail behind the selections to your team, I'm all for debating selections and criticism around players.

        Look up the article about players getting traded and the increase in their average the following season, it was posted on Jock Reynolds itself in an extensive article about two pre-seasons ago.
        Adams may be injury prone but he offers a midfield selection in defence until then, if he can string 8 games together so be it, but he'll be smashing out tonnes until then. All other defence premo's are too high, by that time I can swap him for Simpson/Docherty and probably make coin.
        Why will Bob average 70? Nothing to say he can't average the 90+ he has done the past five years.. ageing and coming back from injury but still under valued and a champion.

        I'm light on in defence but by doing so I can have an increased output in my mids and forward.

        Sandi's just a stepping stone.. I reckon he's gonna be in good knick and an easy upgrade target to the best ruckmen out of Goldy/Sauce etc around the byes.

        No reason why Heeney can't be a top 10 forward this year, Longmire himself has said he'll spend heaps of time in the guts.
        I'm not focusing too much on the rookies, their just in there at the moment until the true ones named R1 show their value.

        All selections are based on some research, I'll be keeping an eye on most of the eyebrow raising ones to see how they track in the pre-season and to some extent, the NAB cup.
        Cheers for the feedback Wombat and Luskin!

      • Morrow says:

        Updated squad:
        Adams, Tuohy, Murphy, McGrath, Scharenberg, Ryan (Berry, Stewart)

        Danger, Pendles, Gaz, Dusty, Fyfe, Beams, Ainsworth, Myers (Brodie, Powell-Pepper, Graham)

        Gawn, Sandi (Strandica)

        Dahlhaus, Macrae, Heeney, Roughy, Boyd, Pickett (Black, Eddy)

        Needed the DPP swing in the Ruck/FWD, happy going light as in defence at the moment and risking it til these defence premo's drop.

  80. DaveQ says:

    This will certainly require larger trousers and has a massive injury risk but big upside if all on the park

    Defenders: T. Adams, R. Laird, J. Johannisen, Z. Williams, J. Berry, T. Stewart (A. Witherden, L. Ryan)
    Midfielders: P. Dangerfield, G. Ablett, N. Fyfe, T. Mitchell, D. Beams, M. Murphy, J. O'Meara, D. Swallow (W. Brodie, D. Myers, J. Graham)
    Rucks: B. Grundy, A. Sandilands (L. Strnadica)
    Forwards: L. Dahlhaus, J. Macrae, J. Caddy, J. Bowes, J. Pickett, J. Allison (S. Bolton, B. Eddy)


  81. Derek says:

    I'm ready to put my V2 team up already.

    Main question is to have Beams in the starting team?

    DEF: Adams, JJ, Mills, McGrath, Berry, Newman (Ryan, Stewart)

    MID: Dangerfield, Pendlebury, Ablett, Parker, Gray, Fyfe, Beams, Powell-Pepper (Barrell, Hibberd, Jarman)

    RUC: Goldy, Sandi (Strnadica)

    FWD: Dahlhaus, Macrae, Heeney, Knight, Black, Pickett (Bolton, Eddy)

    • Liam says:

      Parker and Gray are big PODs. I like Parker but not sure on Gray, think there is better options.

      • Derek says:

        Just looking st structure. Ablett and Parker could easily be JPK and Hanners. Gray could be The Bont or Sloane.

    • Morrow says:

      Decent V2 mate!

      Not sure on JJ personally, reckon there's heaps of hype since the GF and he's only really stringed one decent season together. Played 13, 11, 13, 20 and 13 games in the last five years? No thanks.

      Mills for me simply just falls under the category of 'second year blues'. Happened before, will happen again. Pass for mine!

      I'm the opposite to Liam. Love the Gray POD but don't rate Parker as a selection, I'd rather go JPK/Hanners.

      Beams is a lock.

      Any DPP swing for Sandi or just running the risk?

      • Derek says:

        I started the pre season with a guns and rookies team in mind, somehow there are some midpricers in there, might have too many.

        Thinking that I'm in the No Beams camp.

        • jrfc says:

          110% agree, beams not worth the risk, and priced that you will have to make 3 trades to turn into premo if he fails
          i personally like the jj pick, proven super elite scorer and priced high enough to use one trade to replace god forbid, he goes down
          but any of this could change depending on strategy, everyone has their own, mine is like your first thought, strictly guns and rookies so beams doesnt fit into my strategy

          • Derek says:

            DEF: Docherty, Adams, JJ, McGrath, Berry, Newman (Ryan, Stewart)

            MID: Dangerfield, Pendlebury, Ablett, Parker, Gray, Fyfe, Myer, Powell-Pepper (Barrell, Hibberd, Jarman)

            RUC: Goldy, Sandi (Strnadica)

            FWD: Dahlhaus, Macrae, Heeney, Ryder, Knight, Black (Bolton, Eddy)

          • Luskin Star says:

            If beams plays you wont need to upgrade him so i assume you are talking about him being injured and yes if it happens early in season you will need 3 trades. If you go pure guns and rookies you also often fall into that situation. Reckon he is worth the risk

            • Liam says:

              Personally I won't be going in with him because of two reasons.
              1. Durability- don't think he will play all of the year.
              2. Points- I think that if he plays the year he will only score around 100pts which is isn't enough to be a keeper in the mids
              (refer to Libba).

      • Derek says:

        my last version i've taken out JJ and thinking about Z Williams.

    • MoustachioSC says:

      I would run Beams, and Myers is a lock. Handy to have guys on the field who average high enough that you don't have to use 3 trades to bring in a big gun…

      • Derek says:

        i'm not going with Beams. Not a keeper and won't make much cash. I went with B Crouch last year and it didn't go well. Will prefer to spend the same money on Ryder at F4. He could be a keeper plus gives me back-up for Sandi.

  82. IDontLose says:

    V2 now it gets interesting

    Docherty, Johannisen, Hodge
    McGrath, Scharenberg, Berry
    (Hibberd, Ryan)

    Dangerfield, Parker, Treloar, Bontempelli
    Fyfe, Brodie, Galluci, Powell-Pepper
    (Petrevski-Seton, Venables, Freeman)

    Gawn, Grundy

    Dahlhaus, Macrae, Heeney
    Hoskin-Elliot, McCluggage, Bowes
    (Black, Eddy)

  83. Matt Robison says:

    Second crack at my team based off some feedback… Interested in further thoughts:

    DEF: K.Simpson, T.Adams, M.Hurley, K.Kolodjashnij, A.McGrath, M.Scharenberg BENCH: L.Ryan, T.Stewart
    MIDS: J.Selwood, A.Treloar, M.Bontempelli, N.Fyfe, D.Heppell, D.Swallow, W.Brodie, D.Myers BENCH: J.Berry, S.P.Pepper, J.Graham
    RUCKS: B.Grundy, A.Sandilands BENCH: T.English
    FWDS: L.Dahlhaus, T.Lynch, I.Heeney, J.Roughead, C.E.Yolmen, H.McCluggage BENCH: J.Pickett, B.Eddy


    • Morrow says:

      Decent V2 mate!
      Not sure about running so deep into defence,.. Hurley and Kolo both going to be season long keepers? Not sure.

      I think in the mids you've almost went for mids that are too different,.. Selwood/Treloar/Bont/Heppell….. think one of them has to go for Danger/Pendles or one of the Sydney mids.. Not sure of Selwood/Treloar will be a top 10 mid, but Heppell definitely won't be.

      Absolutely love your defence, not sure on the price you'll pay for CEY and will be better options with McCluggage (don't start him, already missing out on the extra $80k profit when you find that $120k rookie that will outscore him).

      Good luck for the season.

  84. t-mitch says:

    Normally i keep my cards pretty close to my chest this early in the piece but im going to give up my big pod for this year and why.
    This man has not even had a look in almost every side so far, a 22 year old son of a gun in his fourth year and played every game last year.
    Lachlan Hunter, since his debut year his supercoach avg has gone up an average of 10.6 points per year, if he keeps this up which i think he will exceed, his 2017 avg will be 105.2 which i think is pretty much the perfect m8 come finals time.
    best of luck community =]

    • Morrow says:

      Maaaaaate, not bad at all. Do you see him increasing this year? Priced at $515k is awkward but huge POD. Love it.

      • t-mitch says:

        yeah i do, i see him avg 105-110 which is a perfect m7-8 so set and forget pod

        • Derek says:

          i don't see him in the top 10 midfielders.

          • T-Mitch says:

            Exactly, if you did he would be in your side, this is what makes him a pod

            • Derek says:

              Do YOU see him in the top 10 midfielders?

              Starting team should only have two types. Keepers and money makers. No sure if he is either.

  85. tomsteam says:

    DEF: Docherty, Adams, Tuohy, Murphy, Sharenburg, McGrath, Ryan, Stewart
    MID: Dangerfield, Bontempelli, Jack Steven, Beams, Fyfe, Gaff, Brodie, Myers, Powell-Peppers, Graham, Brown
    RUCK: Grundy, Gawn, Strnadica
    FWD: Dahlhaus, Heeney, Roughead, Ainsworth, Bowes, Bolton, Eddy, Picket

    192k left in the bank, not sure if i should bring in williams or lloyd or mills into the backline for tuohy or murph? and if i have enough scoring power upfront in the forward line? and if docherty is a good call down back for R1? all help and comments appreciated! Only V1, rookies definitely subject to change

    • Morrow says:

      I don't mind your defence mate. I rate Tuohy and Murphy over all three of those selections, bank the coin and back those lads in! Although as soon as I see Docherty as D1 I dismiss almost all team credibility. In five years has only managed above 13 games, once. ONCE and he's had literally one good season. You're paying a price for a player that has never even averaged that value of worth. Get him out… Simpson on the other hand, consistently been a jet for years.

      Shallow in the forward line but that's like many teams this year, mine's looking very similar. I think I'm going one less premo in defence at the moment and one more in the forward line!

      Good luck for the season.

      • jrsc says:

        doc played every game last year missed only 2 games the year before, dont know who told you that 13 stat but its very wrong

      • t-mitch says:

        when i pick my team i look at stats over the past 3 seasons, and these stats show that docherty highly warrants d1 status,
        docherty has played 4 seasons so lets include that shall we,
        debut year, played 13 games @52.8
        2014, played 16 games @76.8
        2015, played 19 games @87.7
        2016, played 22 games @108.7

        i only see positives here, increased games played every year since debut at the same tim as increasing his avg every year at an average of 18.6 points per year!!!

        if hes not the number 1 def at the end of the year he will be top 3 easily

        100% a d1 candidate

        • Luskin Star says:

          You are spot on with Doc. Lots of people acting like last year was a fluke. None of them aire producing any thing to back that up. The argument seems to be that he had never avg 100+ before. This is flawed because the forst time anyone avg 100 they have done it before. Most do repeat it though.

      • tomsteam says:

        I am thinking of going with shaw or Simpson for a bit cheaper, I will trade them in later! Expect docherty to drop at least 50k at some point in the season! Thanks for the tips mate! Last year was my first proper crack at SuperCoach and learnt a lot, ranked 2027 at the end of the day. Would love your take on my gaff Steven mid and if one needs do be a hanners, pendles premium or if the different take is worth the risk! And what you think of grundy and if sandi would be a good call instead? Cheers mate appreciate the comments

      • tomsteam says:

        I am thinking of going with shaw or Simpson for a bit cheaper, I will trade them in later! Expect docherty to drop at least 50k at some point in the season! Thanks for the tips mate! Last year was my first proper crack at SuperCoach and learnt a lot, ranked 2027 at the end of the day. Would love your take on my gaff Steven mid and if one needs do be a hanners, pendles premium or if the different take is worth the risk! And what you think of grundy and if sandi would be a good call instead? Cheers mate appreciate the comments

      • wombatsfc says:

        Dude this is a planet earth AFL forum, even I can't make sense of what you wrote.

    • Derek says:

      Jack Stevens an interesting one. Considered him for a few minutes and then passed. what do you like about him?

      • tomsteam says:

        Love that he's a big POD and wouldn't expect to see him in many teams, has massive scoring potential with 4 scores of 148+! Although I am re assessing having him and gaff to start with the season, would love a sure thing like pendles in the mid next to danger, any advise?

        • Luskin Star says:

          Id flick gaff for pendles. Dont like Steven either but better than gaff

  86. Sam L says:

    DEF: Doc, Laird, Vince, Williams, Berry, Newman (Hibberd (NM), Ryan)

    MID: Danger, Pendles, JPK, Bont, Fyfe, Titchell, SPP, Myers (Scheer, Graham, Lipinski)

    RUCK: Gawn, Sandilands (Lynch)

    FWD: Dahlhaus, Heeney, Miller, Simpkin, Pickett, Long (Brown, Smith)

  87. DAMON says:

    Taylor Adams [COL] [MID] ($527,800), Rory Laird [ADE] ($526,800), Jason Johannisen [WBD] ($513,500), Matthew Scharenberg [COL] ($164,000), Mitchell Hibberd [NTH] [MID] ($123,900), Nic Newman [SYD] ($123,900)
    Kieran Collins [WBD] ($123,900), Luke Ryan [FRE] ($117,300)
    Joel Selwood [GEE] ($606,600),Adam Treloar [COL] ($605,400), Tom Rockliff [BRL] ($603,900), Nat Fyfe [FRE] ($573,500),Tom Mitchell [HAW] ($565,600), Dyson Heppell [ESS] ($513,300), Dayne Beams [BRL] ($432,500), David Myers [ESS] ($133,700)
    Sam Powell-Pepper [PTA] ($135,300), Dean Gore [ADE] ($123,900), Nathan Freeman [STK] ($123,900)
    Stefan Martin [BRL] ($488,000), Aaron Sandilands [FRE] ($308,200)
    Luke Strnadica [FRE] [FWD] ($102,400)
    Luke Dahlhaus [WBD] [MID] ($520,700), Jack Macrae [WBD] [MID] ($511,700), Patrick Ryder [PTA] [RUC] ($418,100), Harley Bennell [FRE] [MID] ($387,000), Hugh McCluggage [BRL] [MID] ($202,800), Jarrod Pickett [CAR] [MID] ($123,900)
    Aaron Black [GEE] ($137,100), Willie Rioli [WCE] ($117,300)

    Just added Selwood as I had 0 premos with rnd 12 bye

  88. Dnootz says:

    Thoughts on my early team (will change come round 1)
    Defence: Shaw, Adams, Laird, Carlisle (or M Williams/T Langdon), Berry, Ryan.
    Mids: Danger, Hanners, Dusty, Fyfe, Beams, Murphy, Swallow, SPP.
    Ruck: GAWN & Sandi
    Fwds: Dalla, GunsTON, Ryder, Heeney, McKay, Pickett.
    Bench rookies will be 102k-123k,
    Not paying for premium rookies this year as I feel there are good mid pricers available.

  89. One Touch Wonder says:

    Hello everyone. Great to be back and thinkin' Footy.
    Boy oh Boy do i have a good feeling about this season.
    There will be plenty SHARK MOVES that will decide the winners and the losers.
    My first team of the year is a absolute ripper.

    Docherty. Shaw. Adams. Scharenburg. Berry. Stewart. Long. Ryan
    Dangerfield. Pendlebury. Hannebury. Selwood. Fyfe. Power-Pepper. Myers. Barrett. Allison. Bolton. Graham
    Goldstein. Sandilands.
    Dahlhaus. Macrae. Rioli. Heeney. Ryder. Black. Pickett. Eddy

    Cyril Rioli will be my first SHARK MOVE of the year. This has been his first pre-season ever where he has been able to fully train without worry his hammys will snap. He will be in the midfield this year to fill the gap left my Lewis and Mitchell. He WILL be top 6 forwards this year.

  90. #EngineRoom says:

    Hello Ladies & The Bont xoxox

    Docherty, Burgoyne, J. Lloyd.
    Berry, EVW, Witherden.
    (Ryan & Stewert)

    Danger, Hanners, Trealor, EngineRoom AKA Coniglio.
    Fyfe, Dwallow, SPP, Myers.
    (Freeman Graham Maynard)

    Gawny, Grundy.

    Dollshouse, Macrae, Heeney.
    Steele, Bowes, Pickett.
    (Bolton, Eddy)

    $240k left in the bank for adjustments..

    Rookies obvi not set..

    Def is very much wide open this season. Spoiled for choice, but there is still value there. My inclusion of Burgoyne is just a thought atm & I do feel its a touch light there. Have had Adams there the whole time, and will most likely start with him, but Burgoyne is durable, classy and should see more midfield time. Trying to think outside the box slightly atm. its too easy to just roll up with Heater, Simpson etc.. Inclusion to their squad of Henderson could only be beneficial SC wise. Steele moving to the Saints is only a good thing for this kid, missed some training early on, but if fit, firing, is a lock for rnd 1. Steele an Dollshouse my only real Fwd locks atm.

    • Derek says:

      Burgoyne not a bad idea. Hawks light in the midfield. He just bit expensive. Hodge is cheaper but might get a few rests.

      • #EngineRoom says:

        yeah, really not keen on Hodge this yr. General consensus was he should have retired last yr. Think Burgoyne will be their highest scoring defender this yr..

  91. MAC IS BACK JR says:

    First shot pretty hard this year but this is what I've got

    S docherty
    R laird
    Z tuohy
    A McGrath
    L Ryan
    M scharenberg

    T Stewart
    T gorter

    S Pendles
    D Myers

    C hewett
    J graham

    ( go big or go home) plus no third man up these boys will get 120+ most games


    L strnadica

    T J Lynch
    J Bowes
    A black
    P ahern

    B McKay
    B eddy

    With 228 000 left in the bank

  92. Rainman says:

    Proven guns… shows out with a fair few being on the north side of 30. But i think too many get ruled out because of age.
    Really like Touk but is role dependent.

    Simpson Shaw Adams Scharenberg Berry Ryan (Williamson Newman)

    Dangerfield Pendlebury Ablett Treloar Rockliff Fyfe D.Swallow Myers (Graham Atley Baric)

    Gawn Sandilands (Strnadica)

    Riewoldt Deledio Miller Pickett Battle Beech (Smith Eddy)

    • Tim Smith says:

      you dont think pendles, Treloar and adams is too many pies players till the byes? i need another premium mid and I've got pendles at the moment but dont want to many pies

      • Rainman says:

        No mate.. 12 rounds of premium scores. Not gonna sabotage my team for 1 week

  93. Daniel says:

    I am always a fan of going super boring/generic with older proven performers. Guns and rookies structure.

    DEF: Simpson, Montagna, Murphy, Ryan, McGrath, Berry (Williamson, Stewart)
    MID: Danger, Hannebery, Priddis, Fyfe, Steven, Heppell, Swallow, Myers (Barrett, Graham, Powel-Pepper)
    RUCKS: Goldy, Ryder (Cameron)
    FWD: Dahlhaus, Buddy, Wingard, McCluggage, McCarthy, Ainsworth (Eddy, Gallucci)

  94. Tim Smith says:

    Thoughts? Tossing and turning with Laird and pendles in and out

    DEF: Shaw, Adams, Laird, JJ, McGrath, Scharenberg (L.Ryan, T.Stewart)
    MID: Danger, Pendles, Hannebery, Treloar, Fyfe, Beams, Swallow, S.Powell-Pepper (D.Myers, N.Freeman, J.Graham)
    RUCKS: Goldy, Sandilands (L.Strnadica)
    FWD: Dahlhaus, Heeney, McCarthy, McCluggage, J.Picket, S.Bolton (T.Smith, B.Eddy)

    58k leftover, yes i do know my forward line is weak but i just don't know who to pick this year, so I'm just waiting it out.

  95. IDontLose says:

    V3, I'm going with the big boys

    DEF: Docherty, Shaw, Johannisen
    McGrath, Scharenberg, Berry (Ryan, Hibberd)

    Docherty is an absolute jet, I think he'll be the number 1 defender for a few years has a nice ceiling and a decent basement. GWS just let Shaw sit in the pocket and do what he wants, will have a similar season in 2017. JJ has massive potential, Murphy and Suckling returning won't effect him he was scoring well with them in the team. Will be targeting Adams and Laird throughout the season

    MID: Dangerfield, Parker, Treloar, Bontempelli
    Fyfe, Brodie, Galluci, Powell-Pepper (Myers, Freeman, Williams

    Would be foolish not to start Dangerfield, Parker entering his prime at age 24 should see a more consistent output, Treloar and Bontempelli both young with huge potential backing both to havea great season, Fyfe is arguably the best in the league when fit 570k is a steal. Don't see a lot of value in the 'value' selections, Beams is shot, Heppell will need to produce premium numbers don't think he will. Will be keeping my eye on Dusty, Merrett, Pendles.

    RUCK: Gawn, Goldstein (Strndica)

    History is against me, but if anyone can prove history wrong it's these 2 freaks, 108 from Goldy last year in a 'poor' injury affected season, I'll back him to beat that in 2017. The new Ruck rules will only help Gawn and Goldy dominate even more

    FWD: Dahlhaus, Macrae, Heeney
    Hoskin-Elliot, McCluggage, Bowes (Black, Eddy)

    Dahlhaus was on track for a massive year before injury, we're a bit fortunate to still have him as a forward. Speaking of fortunate forward options we have Macrae, this kid has big potential. Heeney is in the Cripps-Bontempelli mould of talent, he is a freak and I back him to become a premium this year