Higgo’s Team Reveal

Peter HigginbothamBeloved community, I present to you

……  Mathemagic FC*!

*Pr(my team changes prior to lock-out) = 0.962

 

I shall start first with my team and then provide some brief explanatory notes below.

A succinct set of  selection justifications aim to serve two purposes;

1. It will reward and refresh the mind of the Community member who opts to immerse themselves within the entire team structure – a much needed tonic for us at a stage where cognitive bias may have lead us down a fixed selection pathway.

2. It is hoped that the Community will in fact run their own, untainted analysis, holding Jock’s proverbial mirror up to my own preseason selection bias.

CURRENT SELECTION PERCENTAGES SHOWN

Upon first inspection you may make the folowing observations;

A wafer thin defence

Yes, this is a concern as my team balance is heavily skewed toward a deep running midfield. I am happy to take my biggest risks in defence – the lowest scoring position on the field. Daniel Rich is coming off a self-confessed poor year where he struggled to get back his rhythm post his 2014 knee surgery. I expect him to run through Brisbane’s midfield and is a chance to end up in the top 10 scoring defenders. Sheridan is another great risk, however, I feel in the absence of Duffield he will not only be in Freo’s best 22 but may also be given some freedom off half-back.

Extravagant and unique Ruck spend

The draught horse and the freak strategy – Sam Jacobs is durable and Naitanui is simply stunning. I will let the Community discuss this controversial ruck combination further below.

NO DANGER, GOLDSTEIN, WEITERING, SHAW

Aside from selections such as Robby Gray, JPK, Rich and Toby Green, my true point of difference, or shark move, comes via my non-selections. This is a risk, however, I refuse to play shoal or little fish strategy. Shark moves are, in my opinion, what adds value and enjoyment to fantasy games. I am going for a win and while my initial shark moves may seem to others to lack courage or to be slightly faint-hearted, the true monster shark moves will come via in-season trading. A rigid starting squad is crucial.

This is enough from me at this stage.

Thank you for your time, support and much appreciated feedback.

Kind regards,

Peter J Higginbotham

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  1. Grahame Lebroy says:

    Your 3 keepers in def are very risky, if they come off its a masterstroke but I doubt they will. Ballsy stuff

    • Dee says:

      I don't think Rich I a risk…. he's in for a massive year, specially with Beams and Zorko out early…. keen to see him run a muck in the midfield.

      • DuckingTigers says:

        Rich hasn't run amok in the history of the universe. His highest annual average was 91 in 2012. If you're happy with 91 then that's fine but don't expect any more. I'd personally prefer Charlie Rich's records to Daniel's record.

  2. fatboyfat7 says:

    Your season is on the line straight off the bat with that defence. Hope its work for you but wow. Loved your comment that your POD is your non selections. Have a similar viewpoint on that myself. Thanks for your work and best of luck for the year, hopefully there's no repeat of your R1 Daisy catastrophe!
    Anyone else having Suckling down back, not seeing him in many teams and unsure why. 90 & 97 in NAB and would expect a score increase now he's away from Hawthorn…

    • Jye says:

      Bloody oath mate, Suckling sure has slipped under the radar… Thinking about him too. Averaged 90 and 82 in 2011/2012 pre-ACL, decisions decisions eh. You watch much of him during NAB? Didn't see much of the Bullies

      • fatboyfat7 says:

        I know, I was thinking there was something wrong with him or something. Didn't see much of Doggies no, but did read the usual match reviews. Think he spent a fair bit of time out on the wing for one the games. The forward swing might come in handy down the track too.

        • Jye says:

          Agreed mate!! Wing play could be huge for his output, always loved him for SC because of his disposal. Could do what Brodie smith did 2 years ago!

    • Mallee Boy says:

      Fatboy! Yes got him @ f4. I think the Dogs will use him as a runner off half back or even on the ball. He's been in my team from the start.
      Other defenders are: Shaw, Houli & Laird then rookies.

      • fatboyfat7 says:

        Solid looking backline you got so, if I had to pick, those other 3 would be my top 3 picks of defenders

    • Chill says:

      Got him Fatboy… at D3! crazy? yep. Totally agree he will have a bonza year.

    • Dan says:

      I'm considering Suckling and Docherty and JJ and I can't decide, possibly birchall or gibbo. Think Bart will get rested or injured this year. For D3, with Shaw and Laird D1-2.

    • Vulpes says:

      I'm a bit worried about Murphy, JJ, Boyd, and Suckling sharing points. Suckling would also be one of the first tagged in a real match due to his kicking. His NAB scores wouldn't have happened with a defensive half forward scragging him.

      • HallyM8 says:

        I like suckling but worried about all the options bulldogs already have coming out of halfback

    • Booma says:

      Doggies have got a very nice start to the season too. First 7 games are all at ES, which they play very well.

    • DuckingTigers says:

      If you don't feed a suckling pig it will die. If a Suckling footballer isn't fed the ball his scores will die. I'm not sure he knows what a contested possession is or has even heard of a tackle.

  3. Jack says:

    Interesting that JPK is only in 4% of teams. That's given me something to think about.

  4. Tret says:

    Im rolling with a backline of Shaw, Laird, Harwood, Dea, Brown and Hartley on field at the moment so Im loving your backline Higgo!

    I like the Rich selection aswell. Tossing up between him and Hurn. Im just not sure either of them will be top 10 defenders but I think both are underpriced.

    • Angus says:

      Rich doesn't find enough of the ball as he hasn't averaged over 20 disposals in a season since 2012. Risky selection, one I'm not picking in my side.

  5. Ethan says:

    Tossing up between Zac Williams (GWS-375k) and Nathan Wilson (GWS-277k) as my D3 and potential POD what are your thoughts

    • I N Pieman says:

      Think you'll find Wilson has kicked Williams to the curb. That will be an easy decision

    • Leeds17 says:

      They'll most play in the same team and take points off each other, big fan of Williams If Wilson isn't picked R1 i'd be keen to get Zac in my team, not interested in Wilson as gets uncontested ball and doesn't used it that well..

  6. Plum exposure levels = high

  7. Marty says:

    Fairly unique side there Higgo. There's not one selection there that is unjustified and all have a chance at a great year for their position/price. I think some of your choices have better options at the same price but who am I to predict the future. The only suggestion I'd make is perhaps choosing only one of Kennedy/Gray in the mids for a rookie and upgrading one of your rookies down back for a Houli/Laird type. This would provide you a little more balanced structure. Good luck!

    • Pete says:

      Agreed Marty

    • jack says:

      whats the difference between a rookie in the backline and a prem in the middle vs having a rookie in the middle and a premium down back? Team balance is the most overratted concept in supercoach in my opinion. You don't break up your lines seperately, only total team score counts for anything. I would much prefer a kennedy and gray vs any prems in the backline and this year would prefer a rookie from the backline options rather than one from the midfield.

      • Marty says:

        Because you want to limit the amount of rookies onfield. Its much easier to predict best two rookies onfield on each of the main three lines that will play 8+ consecutive games, than it is to predict 3-4 rookies in the backline that will play 8+ games. You leave yourself open to being a few players short early in the year. That and midfield rookies will generally score more than defenders. Making money off rookies is one thing but points scored is just as important. Higgo could chuck laird in instead of gray for example and upgrade on of his cheap defender rookies to a Dea. Better scoring and safer each week. Only my opinion

  8. Like the PODS in the mids!Had JPK who's solid enough but is so frustrating..The defense could go either way!good stuff higgo!

  9. Tiges says:

    Looks like a team filled with POD's in stride for the $50k! I like a lot of your POD selections, but I think a lot of people often get caught up in selecting POD selections because "they're a POD", the player is only a POD that will better off your team if they are scoring HIGHER than the other mainstream players. Otherwise you're just falling further and further behind the pack. Every team has a few POD's and I've loaded mine ready to go!

    Does anyone know where you can find the % ownership?
    Also, I'm looking for competitive leagues to join? Finished top 1k last year, feel free to post any league codes.

  10. I N Pieman says:

    I think your wasting a Cash Gen position having Grimley in your Fwd line. Will be in the Zac Dawson Ilk of scoring. Like the Fwd Mid Def swings. Usually it's not important to start with swingsets, but this year I feel it is given the uncertainty of who will line up for the bombers each week

  11. The Regular says:

    Where are the group and league codes for this shock Reynolds communiteeeeeee….?

  12. Jimbo says:

    Definitely need to downgrade say, jpk, to crouch and sure up that backline. Needs at least 1 solid keeper. Rest is solid higgo mate!

  13. David says:

    Higgs , you are committing supercoach suicide!
    Best of luck though :)

  14. Rick Grimes says:

    With great risk comes great reward… or not. I like it. Will certainly have you on a knife edge from the get go. I'm going similar, but thin up front. It feels dangerous because I'm a tried and true GnR fan.

  15. ben says:

    def: shaw, laird, gibson, weitering, dea, brown (hartely, adams)

    mid: dangerfield, ablett, ward, rockliff, adams, libba, gresham, kerrige ( keays, adamson, davis)

    ruck: martin, gawn (a.smith)

    fwd: martin, gray, greene, de goey, wells, kennedy (petracca, M.TIP)

    thoughts people???

    • Redgumwon says:

      I like it nice balance to your side. The only thing I would do is maybe bring in one more Premium in your midfield to save a trade or two later in the year. But that is just personal preference. You could do that by moving Kerrige to the forward line and removing De Goey. Then have a play around with rookies Mills or Oliver or maybe have a look at Simpkin at Essendon, something along those lines?

  16. Rick Grimes says:

    Apologies to go off topic, but I could use some guidance from the community. I am a Kiwi (don't hold that against me). I'll be arriving in Melbourne on Good Friday. Can anyone please advise if there will be any liquor stores open in the CBD? Also, do restaurants and pubs open? Again, sorry to hijack the discussion.

    • I N Pieman says:

      There are 24/7 liquor stores in Melbourne CBD Rick. There's another on Chapel St in South Yarra I've fallen out of a few times. You can refuel anytime you need to. Restaurants I'm not so sure. Should a pub or 2 open. I'm getting pretty sick & tired of this day being called "Good Friday". What's good about it

      • Rick Grimes says:

        Haha true. Jesus and his pals loved a brew, I'm sure. Cheers

        • medadsson says:

          Yeah but apparently Jesus didn't need a liquor store, if only we could get that water to wine recipe off him :)

          • I N Pieman says:

            If you do get hold of it Medad be sure to send it my way

          • I N Pieman says:

            Thoughts on Sheridan Medad?

            • medadsson says:

              Still keen. He is def best 22 and played again off half back on Sunday. Was a little quieter (Sutcliffe popped up) but I really do think the last 8-9 games (inc finals) last season are a pointer as to his likely output. He avereaged 91ish. The first half of last season he was battling a calf injury. When he overcame that it was clear he would be taking Duffields role and was selected accordingly. Has the right attributes to fulfill the role and Lyon often refers to him when he is asked about his track history (or lack thereof) for giving youngsters a run. I have him at D4. Hope that helps. Buyer beware!!!

    • NutSack says:

      Its Melbourne Australia brudda… you can do just as much here 24 hours a day as you can in New York :)

  17. Dice says:

    How much coin leftover Higgo? Also you must be confident on Ruggles and Davis getting games.
    Would love some output on my team….currently changing every 2nd hour of the day.

    Backs: H. Shaw J. Gibson J. Bartel B. Smith M. Hartley M. Adam — M. Brown N. Broad

    Mids: N. Fyfe S. Pendlebury G. Ablett T. Rockliff T. Liberatore C. Mills C. Oliver C. Menadue — D. Gore R. Clarke R. Davis

    Rucks: T. Goldstein M. Gawn — C. Loesrch

    Forwards: D. Martin L. Dahlhaus M. Barlow D. Wells B. Kennedy S Kerridge –L. McCarthy A. McDonald-Tipa

    I HATE spending coin on expensive rookies, however i've gone one less mid premium to others so i'm banking on these guys avg 80s before i upgrade.
    Love Elliot Yeo, had him in till this week but thought Josh Gibson would be more consistant.

    Any input would be fantastic.
    P.S. My work have somehow shutdown the podcasts but not the site – spewing i can't listen to them anymore. Who knows a rig to fix this?

    • Jye says:

      Nice work mate. Only concern for me is that I don't think those 3 mids will average 80's, worried about Oliver's durability and who knows about menadue season proper.
      No Dea or Weitering?
      I like Yeo too. Agreed that Gibson is more consistent but Yeo probably has more upside. A good point the fellas made in the podcast is that they don't think there's been much indication during NAB that he'll get more midfield time – thoughts to ponder.

      • Dice says:

        No worries thanks Jye.
        Hopefully they can avg around that 80 mark till round 7 – 8 then upgrade.
        Like Weitering but again don't wanna spend overs especially down back.
        I've looked at Deas past few seasons and only avg around the 50 mark so his two 90 NAB scores don't jump out at me.
        Hope Yeo proves me wrong!

    • Dean says:

      Dice you actually have two less premo's compared to Higgo's team. I would strongly suggest to pi$$ off Smith in Defence and bring in Dea or Weitering.

      Then look to bring in another Premo midfielder, just keep in mind your midfield premo's are genuinely your guarantee players that will score you your 100+ points each week. As for defence it really is a lottery as to who's going to end up being Top 10 apart from Shaw.

    • Randy Watson says:

      I had Gibbo last year and he was my most frustrating player! Buyer beware Dice old mate.

  18. CroMagnon Man says:

    1/10 Is the [urpose of posting this this team just to get a rise out of people?

  19. Bongwaterbrawlers says:

    Ballsy shit Higgo!

    I have JPK in and out of my side, just cant settle with him,
    Is he right for round 1?

  20. Big G says:

    Ryan Davis all of a sudden in 12 per cent of teams – does anyone know if will even play?

  21. TRIGGER HAPPY says:

    Hi Jock/Higgo,

    How do I go about posting a link on jocks website?

    I have put together a table of every nab cup supercpoach score with disposal efficiency, time on ground, supercoach score expanded by time on ground etc that I would like to share with the community. As I think it would help as if you look at a SC score and go wow they didn't score much but if they only spent 30% on ground when rounded out to 100% TOG then it looks much better. Granted I know no one spends 100% TOG but for this exercise it is at least a good comparison tool.

    Can you let me know how I post a link or send me an email that I can send it to so Jock can post it to share with the community?

    Thanks

  22. James says:

    Shaw, rance, laird
    Bartel, docherty, Birchall
    ( rance, McVeigh)

    Fyfe, Ablett, danger, Pendlebury
    Ward, Priddis, gray, JPK
    (Cripps, Sloane, rockcliff)

    Goldstein, Nic nat
    (Martin)

    Lids, dalhaus, Barlow
    Franklin, Merrett, Martin
    (Zorko, smith)

    40k left over, thoughts ?

  23. @GAVEDAY says:

    Higgo – Defensively our strategies are the same old chap. I also have a near identical FWD line.

    Let's split the 50k.

    • Dean says:

      Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but higgo has a million to $1 on chance of getting kathy in bed then winning the $50k as he will be playing catch up.

      • Dean says:

        That should of been $1 to $1 Million on, meaning every $1 Million you win only $1 = Higgo gets laid BIG TIME.

        • @GAVEDAY says:

          Of course I understand this comprehensively.

        • NutSack says:

          Higgo will soon sink his meat trumpet into Cathys pretty little flower vase…. she is itching right now thinking about him. She is probably a librarian and will pin Higgo down and slap him around a bit when the time comes :)

  24. kevwal says:

    Great reveal Mr Higginbotham. I have not got the same structure, but the reasoning behind yours is quite sound. Rich will get more mid time now that Beams will not be there, however, he has not delivered on what he promised, in my opinion, and he will not burn me any more. Sheridan should deliver though, watching what Ross may have in store for him. I have also gone the 'no selection' POD. No Shaw/Goldstein/Liberatore. I do have Gray, and I'm quite confident he will go ultra premium this year (look at Ports draw). Really looking forward to the season started.

  25. conor says:

    weitering and s.martin
    or
    johannisen and sinclair
    ???

  26. Steeeve says:

    No Dea? I thought he would be considered a must have?

  27. Gibbs says:

    Toby Greene or Aaron Hall?

  28. Votes says:

    Predicted top 10 defenders? Cheers

  29. Jedders says:

    Interesting team with plenty of thought and mind raking strategy behind it. Big play no Goldy but may be a masterstroke if the other spend from the savings comes off. The only thing i see as a minor adjustment is downgrading maybe JPK to a rook and then upgrade a defender to get another keeper down back but thats about it mate.
    Thanks for all the wisdom young man. Legend

  30. Loyal RoughNuts says:

    A very different looking team but I like some of the selections.

    Was hoping to get some feeback in respect to my current squad:

    Def – Shaw, Laird, JJ, Weitering, Dea, Hartley (Adams & AMT)
    Mid – Fyfe, Danger, Ablett, Rocky, Libba, Crouch, Mills, Kennedy (Gresham, Petracca, Davis)
    Ruck – Goldy & Martin (Wyatt)
    Fwd – Martin, Barlow, Hall, D Menzel, Wells, Kerridge (McGovern & Brown)

    Would appreciate feedback in respect to structure not so much players. Tried to have all lines strong and sacrificed the mids a little by achieving this.

    • Josh says:

      Really like this team mate, not to dissimilar to mine…

      Assuming Matt Crouch and not Brad? worries me to pick a player haven't seen in pre-season

      Only feedback would be to potentially downgrade maybe Menzel and use the money to upgrade Crouch.

      Looking strong though.

  31. Ratitat says:

    Why are no teams going the Montagna? is it because he is likely to be rested??

    • Blues_16 says:

      Personally, I won't trust anyone over 30

      • Average Joe says:

        Yeh, I also personally don't trust Priddis, Shaw and Mundy.

      • Sarah says:

        Players like Shaw, Ablett, Priddis are all terrible picks because there 30+

        One of the dumbest things i've ever read. Can you trust a 29 year old but not a 30 year old?

        • Blues_16 says:

          Thanks, I value your opinion also Sarah.
          I must be mistaken, I thought the question was about "STARTING" players and teams, and I think I'm correct there.
          By "Trust" I mean starting with them. I'm sure I will finish with a few in my team at the end of the season but, I will definitely NOT be starting with them. They are always managed through both the season AND the pre-season and typically drop below their starting price at some point during the first 7 rounds.
          I assure you the 3 you named are great SC players, I will not start them and I will most likely buy all of them cheaper than you… Good luck.

    • Big G says:

      Really good question because I think he is a very, very good option. I think the 'resting' issue and people only rarely folk out that cash for superstars or midfield options.

      • BKW says:

        A bit pricey for mine – should be solid though

        • Ratitat says:

          I don't mind spending the extra money if he is going to play every game this year and average similar to last year. I am mainly concerned about him being managed because of his age. Do you think this is a valid concern?

    • Luke says:

      More like arrested

    • Big kev says:

      Ratitat he can be our secret pick , for the forward line of course . Should average 105-110 . Great pickup imo.

      • Ratitat says:

        Big Kev, I have him in my team atm but i keep doubting myself because no one else seems to. I feel at this stage he is a great pod. He has second best average from last years forwards. I cant remember why he only played 17 games last year. Was it due to injury or being rested??

        • Stevo says:

          Injured at the start. I traded him in after about Rd 6 last year and never looked back. Plenty of cheap possies down back. . Chip chip.. the old 1 2 handball. ..He even does the play on +kicks in.

    • NutSack says:

      LOL- number 1 rule in fantasy. PICK players who played well last year. People trying to predict when GAJ, Priddis, Shaw etc will drop off is like trying to guess the date Higgo nails sweet Cathy. ITS IMPOSSIBLE!!!!

      NRL fantasy has just started and people said the same thing.. he's too old etc yet nothings changed since last year. Wait til they drop off before you make decisions. GAJ will smash fantasy until he's 40.

      GAJ will someday move to the FWD and be like his old man- snagging goals left right and centre!!!!

      • Hutto says:

        The old guns in NRL have not been kind. Cheapies are killing it!

      • Ratitat says:

        good call NutSack. I can see Montagna just continuing on from last year and racking up the possessions game in game out

  32. The Benchmark says:

    Pretty decent higgo
    Many people talking about your team players not performing in previous years. I didn't know this years SuperCoach scores were based on previous years. Go get em higgo
    Many similarities between our teams. Same ruck combo, risky players like rich And low percentage of players that coaches have.
    Cheers

  33. Tom says:

    goldstein and crouch vs naitanui and cripps
    Got Gawn at R2

  34. Jimmy says:

    Thoughts on Team.
    Wanted to go for Goldy but maybe watch his price go down (if it even does go down).
    Hopefully some of the rookies I've chosen will play early;

    DEF: R LAIRD, J GIBSON, K KOLODJASHNIJ, J WEITERING, M BROWN, J CASTAGNA (A MACCA-TIPPA, T RUGGLES)

    MIDS: N FYFE, P DANGERFIELD, S PENDLEBURY, R GRAY, B ELLIS, T LIBERATORE, J STEELE, C MILLS, (J POLKINGHORNE, B KEAYS, R DAVIS)

    RUCK: S JACOBS, M GAWN (M COX)

    FWDS: D MARTIN, M BARLOW, A HALL, D WELLS, L MCCARTHY, S KERRIDGE, (T KEOUGH, C PETRACCA)

    31K LEFT.

    • Wattsieesq says:

      Ellis and Steele are bold moves. I really like the Steele move. I haven't really thought of Ellis or seen him in the NAB so I won't comment. Polkinghorne didn't play in the NAB, if he's named, I'd pick him, but may have to think of an alternative.

      All in all a pretty decent side.

    • Risso says:

      Nice team. I would look elsewhere other than B Eliis though (and I am a tigers fan). Not much upside I him

  35. Rick Grimes says:

    What are people hoping Weitering and Dea can average? And is anyone running with both of them?

  36. Andrew says:

    What do we think of Jesse Lonergan at D4?

    • Big G says:

      I had him because he is big-bodied with potential to play through the midfield and due for a break-out season, but then figured Dea will probably generate as much cash for an upgrade later in the season.

    • Simmo6 says:

      Starting with him.. Plan for him to hopefully be scoring wel enough to be d6 by the end

  37. min0008 says:

    Good team Higgo.
    Thoughts on my team?

    Def: Shaw, Laird, Bartel, Weitering, Dea, Hartley (Brown, Ruggles)
    Mid: Fyfe, Dangerfield, Ablett, Rockliff, Parker, Libba, Mills, Gresham (Gore, Keays, Davis)
    Ruc: Martin, Naitanui (Cox)
    Fwd: Dusty, Barlow, Hall, Wells, Kerridge, Menadue (Petracca, McDonald-Tipungwiti)

    46k left.

    • Josh says:

      Great team, a lot like mine.

      Dislike Bartel though and would go with Johannisen instead or even Jesse Lonergan.

      Also prefer Kennedy to Menadue.

  38. Angus says:

    Would like some feedback and thoughts on my team guys
    DEF: Shaw, Laird, Bartel, Johannisen, Dea, Broad, (Adams), (Tipungwuti)
    MID: Fyfe, Dangefield, Ablett, Gray, Rockliff, Libba, Mills, Gresham, (Hewett), (Mathieson), (Davis)
    RUCKS: Goldstein, Martin, (King)
    FWDS: Barlow, Hall, Wells, Kennedy, Menadue, Kerridge, (Petracca), (Brown)

    $23,700 left in the bank

  39. Byro23 says:

    I can see why you have avoided the ultra premo's who are ultra expensive and carry risk, but can't understand leaving out Danger. Of Fyfe, Pendles, Ablett and Danger, Patty is the only one who's had a full injury free pre-season in the middle. The rest either have had injuries or been flirted with in other positions (or both) which makes them a lot more of a risk to me. Add in that Danger was playing under a bit of pressure last year that effected his scores and I think he will end up the most expensive player in the comp by seasons end.

    • Derek says:

      He will be top 8, should get him cheaper at some point.

      I'm not spending $650k without seeing how he fits in at Geelong. Joel is still the top cat and dangermouse needs to learn his place.

      • Byro23 says:

        When it comes to stars they don't fit in to teams, teams fit in with them. It's not some stock standard player transfer – people were also wary of Ablett to Gold Coast and Danger is not facing that kind of new club challenge by any stretch

      • Bill says:

        Not sure what your logic is there mate. Danger played with sloane at adelaide and weve seen in the past with swan/pendles, fyfe/Mundy, JPK/Hanners that theres no reason 2 guns cant exist in the same side. Selwood may be the main man but that doesnt mean dangers scoring should be affected

      • Benjamima Puddleduck says:

        With that reasoning im starting Selwood fot or not fit

  40. liam says:

    Ben Kennedy yes or no

  41. BigHaydos says:

    I cant believe your luck with Kathy, Higgo! if your supercoach strategies are anything to go by then you must have yourself one set of manly plums mate. I suggest next time you see Kathy, leave the fly undone and let her see the swollen fruits! just be sure to trim the weeds first mate.

    Thoughts on my team community?

    DEF: Shaw, Rance, Houli, Weitering, Dea, Hartley, Brown, Ruggles
    MID: Danger, Pendles, Ablett, Priddis, Libba, Mills, Menadue, Gresham, Kerridge, Petracca, Davis
    RUCK: NicNat, Gawn, Chol
    FORWARDS: Lids, Barlow, Robinson, Hall, Wells, Mccarthy, Adams, Mcdonald-whateveryournameis

    I cant afford Goldy, but I am up for downgrading gawn to someone who is going to make me cash quick so i can get goldy when that price gets to a low point

    Also want to find a way of getting a 4th defender premo

    • Jobesbrownlow says:

      Don't downgrade Gawn. Maybe trade Robinson or Hall down to someone like Ben Kennedy and trade up one of your defensive rookies. More value in the forward rookies I think.

    • Derek says:

      Your two points answer themselves.

    • Phil says:

      Ok Haydo listen up its gonna take some guts but if it comes off it will be a master stroke. Gawn down to Leuy. (I know). Then upgrade Weitering to Laird (or someone else you prefer). Only way it can be done, unless you wanna take a bigger risk on Currie.

  42. LionGliffen says:

    Cheers community!

    DEF: M.Boyd, Laird, J.Gibson, Suckling, Weitering, Hartley ( Broad, Tipungwuti)

    MID: Pendlebury, Ablett, Hannebery, Rockliff, Liberatore, Crouch, Mills, Kerridge ( Gresham, Petracca, Davis)

    RUC: Blicavs, Naitanui (Goetz)

    FWD: Montagna,Westhoff, Barlow, Wells , B.Kennedy, Menadue (Mccarthy, M.Brown)

  43. Big G says:

    Are Shiel owners worried he might take some time to return to full form from his injury?

  44. magpie4ver says:

    Nice write up Higgo! I have considered your structure before you revealed… but I'm not confident in the wafer defense. I'm actually going with a bit of a wafer front.

    Thanks and Good Luck Higgo!

  45. medadsson says:

    Calculated risk taking by Higgo, not sure Cathy would approve. Perhaps a prelude to a more wordly woman for Higgo.

  46. Troy says:

    Any thoughts community?

    DEF: Shaw, Gibson, Rampe, Sheridan, Dea, Broad (Hartley, Adams)
    MID: Dangerfield, Ablett, Priddis, Parker, Cripps, Hunter, Wells, Kerridge (Gresham, Davis, Clarke)
    RUC: Gawn, Sinclair (Michael)
    FWD: Barlow, Hall, Greene, Suckling, Kennedy, Menandue (McCarthy, McDonald-Tipungwuti)

    I've decided on Lachie Hunter as my midfield POD as I can see this as being his breakout year. Also have completely dropped off Mitch Brown, as it seems like Worsfold is going to swing him forward and that ball is hardly going to get down there.

    • Ben says:

      Love the pick of hunter, very ballsy pick but it hink you will reap the rewards.
      Not sure about rampe and gibson, would probably go laird and docherty/bartel

    • Wattsieesq says:

      I'd be worried about your ruck. If you are going with Sinclair, I'd have Goldy at R1. Alternatively, I'd upgrade Sincalir to Martin/Nic Nat/Sause.

      Good team otherwise.

    • Jedders says:

      I have gone Hunter as my big POD also Troy! Instead of Libba! Love the call he wont get any attention and will rack them up. Great pre season and last year was getting scores above the 115 mark. Could average 110 this year. He also kicks goals. Nobody will have the kahoonas to go him.

  47. Wattsieesq says:

    Majestic Higgo, Love your work.

  48. Doc says:

    Like the look of this side Higgo.

    Anyone looking for a competitive league for the year jump in. 127526.

    • Jester says:

      Just joined your league. Finished about 360ish last year. Great that there is a league prize this year. Bring it on!!

      • Monkey_Magic says:

        Jump in mine too Jester.

        470587, looking for Top 10 League finish and filled with community members ;)

  49. magpie4ver says:

    The Wafer Fwd line.

    Backs: Shaw, Tmac, Doc, Dea, M. Brown, Hartley (M. Adams, Ruggles)

    Mids: Fyfe, Pendels, Ablett, Gray, Shiel, Rocky, Libba, C. Mills (Kerridge, Petracca, R. Davis)

    Rucs: Nic Nat, Gawn (Loersch)

    Fwds: Barlow, A. Hall, D. Menzel, D. Wells, Menadue, L. McCarthy (Grimley, AMT)

  50. Chill says:

    If the great man Higginbotham has a backline as lean as mine.. I have faith! We are onto a good thing, my friend.

    • Derek says:

      maybe this is also how Higgo likes his women. Thin at the backend, heavy in the guts with a couple of big boys out front and not much in the top paddock.

      • Chill says:

        Derek I think you might be onto something. Higgo does seem like he would be a fan of Sigmund Freud… and that is an amazing Freud-esque correlation right there.

  51. Ben says:

    I'm really not sure about this packed midfield stratergy that i have seen mass amounts of people a adopting. With liberatore at m7 or even m8.
    I think that a lot of you guys will beleft wanting when we get mid way through the year and your def and fwd are not premuims.
    These 500k-600k midfeilders that you hope will become super prems this year are hugely risky especially when your pickng 3-4.
    Good luck to al but imdo recommend you have a look at your structures!

    • Simmo6 says:

      At the minute I'm rolling Fyfe, danger, Ablett, Gray, Shiel, Parker, Libba, crouch.

      Plan being all bar Libba and crouch are there at the end, with those providing an easy step to a pendles, Selwood, etc…

      Risky, but that's all part of the fun

    • jockreynolds says:

      Love your thinking Ben

  52. Tyler says:

    Hi any tips would be much appreciated :)
    Always a stressful week leading up to round 1

    My team at the moment is.. with 306k to spare

    Back – yeo, johannisen, laird, aish, dea, adamson, hartley, ruggles

    Mid – danger, wines, ablett, rockliff, libba, m. Crouch, mills, davis, hewett, petracca, mathieson

    Ruck – jacobs, martin, Obrien

    Forward – martin, wells, hall, de goey, barlow, kerridge, grimley, menadue

    • Wattsieesq says:

      306k is too much to have spare. Your back line is looking the thinest. I'd look to upgrade Yeo to a Shaw/Houli. and bring in Goldy for Sause.

      Mathieson is injured, so bring in either Kennedy or Menedue for him.

      Goodluck.

  53. Josh says:

    Hey Everyone,

    If I could get some feedback on my team that would be greatly appreciated.

    H. Shaw, R. Laird, T. Sheridan
    J. Lonergan, M. Dea, M. Hartley (M. Brown, T. Ruggles)

    N. Fyfe, P. Dangerfield, G. Ablett, T. Rockliff
    L. Parker, T. Liberatore, C. Mills, C. Menadue (J. Gresham, C. Petracca, R. Davis)

    T. Goldstein, Z. Smith (S. Grimley)

    D. Martin, M. Barlow, A. Hall,
    D. Wells, B. Kennedy, S. Kerridge (M. Adams, McDonald-Tippa)

  54. Crusty says:

    This pre-season preparation is mindbending stuff really.
    Do we select players who are most likely to play in Rounds 1 and 2 whilst we see what rookies are actually getting selected and if they are playing well enough to grow value.
    Is it better to select more "will play" players than rookies and then backtrade down to rookies that are getting games and scoring ???
    Opinions appreciated.

    • Derek says:

      This is where you preseason work pays off. You need to be able to tell the difference between a rookie who can play and one that isn't up to it.

      My rule #1. Get the right rookies

  55. Uncle Chop, Chop says:

    B: Shaw, Houli, Laird, Dea, Hartely, Adams, (M Brown, Ruggles)
    M: Fyfe, Danger, GAJ/Hanners, Ward, Rocky, Mills, B Kennedy, Gore (Petracca, Keys, Davis)
    R: Goldy, Nic Nat (Grimely)
    F: Deleido, Dahlhaus, Wingard, Welle, Kerridge, McCarthy (Tippa, Choil)

    Guns and Rookies approach – Thoughts??

    • Tret says:

      really nice team mate. Going in with 3 onfield midfield rookies makes the rest of the team look so much better.

    • neil says:

      I would be concerned with your three fwd prems. Delideo overs wingard and daly will see limited mid time IMO

      • Leeds17 says:

        Trades are valuable too though Lidds might be overs but when he's ripe for picken Chop Chop might have other areas to address or it might be,

  56. Tret says:

    what do people think of Ryan Harwood?

    averaged 83 in 2014 with injury affected games but only played 3 games last year because of injuries also.

    If he gets his body right I think he could be a really good pick especially for 280k

    • SCaddict says:

      He is a quality player but his durability track record is nothing short of atrocious.

      Has never played more than 16 games in his 6 years at a dismal average of less than 10 games a season which is far worse than say Mumford who is my gold standard for player fragility.

      Sure he will make bank for you if he stays out on the park but that's a pretty mighty if. Occasionally these players can pan out eventually like Jock's main man, one Shaun Higgins, but it can be a risky business predicting what year that will be.

    • Danners says:

      Better options and he is at a very awkward price

  57. Tret says:

    alright, so at the moment im thinking about structure and how players should dictate the structure you have, not the other way around.

    for example, a 550k midfielder like rocky or Shiel is a much better pick than Dusty for around the same price, IMO. Also, Ben Kennedy and Callum Mills look like having similar input.

    So if you had the choice, not worrying about position or structure, youd probably pick Rocky and Kennedy.

    This might mean that you have a weaker forward line with only 2 premos and a stronger midfield with 6 premos. It might look off, but youre getting the best players available for that price.

    Probably made no sense at all but let me know what you guys think

    • Chill says:

      I'm not sure about this Tret, I understand what you are getting at but the game isnt just about premo output. It's about rookie output and making money to buy the premos. If you stack your midfield then you need plenty of fwd and def rookie cashcows. and you lose out on potential mid field cashcows. I really think it's a balance. There are only a few defenders and fwds who have premo outfit.. Dusty, Shaw are 2 that come to mind. That's why I am picking them over stacking my midfield. It leaves me with room to capitalise on cashcows across all lines.

      • Tret says:

        but you are still getting a rookie with similar output, just playing in a different position. You end up with the same amount of cash cows and keepers.

        I understand what youre saying though. Fair point

        • Boris Baconbeer says:

          Ok let's take it to the extreme. So you go all premo mid and all rookie forward. How many downgrade options are going to be available when you want to cash in? In this extreme case you would struggle to have enough scoring players as you downgrade a rookie to upgrade another. In other words your options are diminishing twice as fast for downgradable playing forward rookies. Don't know if I'm explaining it properly but I tried :)

    • Derek says:

      That would work if you had to stick to your starting team all year.

      The name of the game is to make cash and then upgrade. As teams get more valuable, the point scoring also increases.

      If you neglect the value of your team you will fail. By round 11 you need to be $14mil.

      Therefore you need some keepers (lack of trades) and the rest are cash generators. As long as you spend all your money and have a team rapidly increasing in value, the points will look after itself.

      The problem we have, the best cash generators are usually in the guts where the best point scorers are.

      Teams that start with too many premiums in the guts are usually ranked high for the first 7-10 weeks. You will hear them strutting around. By round 15 they are really quiet as they don't have the cash to go full ultra premium and soon fall behind.

      • Tret says:

        The only cash generator ill be missing out on is Callum Mills. I think theres enough cash generation in the other lines that will do the same job as the mid rookies.

        Cheers for the feedback, derek

        • Derek says:

          no worries trent. Be mindful that when you have cash-cows they need to be culled when they peak in price. You then need more rookies to downgrade to so you can make more cash. In the guts there are always more bubble boys to choose from. It isn't just the starting rookies you need to get right, it is the next generation as well.

    • Phil says:

      I think you make a lot of sense buddy. If you predict that a fwd rookie can out score a mid rookie then absolutely you should pick him because like you say, the mid premium should beat the fwd premium priced similarly.

      The only problem I see with picking too many rookies on one line as opposed to a more balanced structure is that rookies tend to miss more games than premiums through rested, dropped and even injured. So you're asking for a donut (or a trade) if you pick too many rookie season on 1 line.

  58. Tiges says:

    DEF:
    LAIRD, SIMPSON, MURPHY, GIBSON, DEA, HARTLEY
    // ADAMS, RUGGLES.

    MID:
    DANGER, GAZ, WARD, ROCKY, LIBBA, WELLS, MILLS, OLIVER
    // MENADUE, GRESHAM, DAVIS.

    RUCK:
    GOLDY, GAWN
    // KORCHECK

    FWD:
    DUSTY, ZORKO, BARLOW, KENNEDY, KERRIDGE, KOMMER
    // MCCARTHY, TIPPA

    THOUGHTS COMMUNITY??? Ranked top 800 last year and looking to improve.

  59. GoHawks says:

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    Anyone up for a real Supercoach challenge.

    I have created a very deep Supercoach Draft league, details here.
    16 teams, play each other once, plus finals (dont play during the bye rounds)
    22 players per team, so a total of 352 players will be drafted, you will need to know your stuff to compete.
    22 players consist of – 5 x def, 7 x mid, 1 x ruck, 5 x fwd, 4 x bench
    LIVE draft Sunday, March 20th @ 1pm

    League code 702156

    If you know your footy and want a real challenge, this is it.

  60. Steele says:

    Gday guys!

    At this stage running with:

    RUCKS (Nic Nat, Z.Smith).
    DEFENCE (K.Simpson, J.Bartel, J.McGovern, J.Johannisen, M.Brown ESS, M.Hartley)

    My question is, would you recommend downgrading a defender to M.Dea and then use that money to upgrade Z.Smith in the rucks to a more solid option?
    Could also go T.Greene (F3) to B.Kennedy in the FWD line but that would leave me a little light on down there?

    Thoughts and Ideas would be greatly appreciated.

    Cheers!

    • Chill says:

      Kennedy at f3 is way too thin. I'd switch a defender to Dea like you say and upgrade your rucks.

  61. Derek says:

    I have gone deep in the rear.

    Shaw, Bartel, McGovern, Rich, BSmith, brown, (Collins, Hartley)

    Fyfe, Ablett, Pendlbury, Rocky, Libba, BCrouch, Mills, McCaffer, (Gresham, Davis, Phillips)

    NicNat, Lobbe (Wyatt)

    Dusty, Wingard, Barlow, Wells, Kerridge, McCarthy (Petracca, McDonald-T)

    • West says:

      havent seen too many teams with Lobbe after his NAB performances and I think its a fair reason why. Doesnt look like he'll make enough cash.

      Whats your reasoning behind going deep in the backline? I personally think theres enough rookies back there that can do the job

      • Derek says:

        Like you said, it was NAB! Lobbe is #1 ruck in a good team with a soft draw.

        Rookies are only there to make cash. The defence rookies won't do enough so the less I have the better.

        McVeigh will slot in at D2 when he is ready and I'm happy to carry that defence for most of the year while I worry about the injuries etc that will come.

        I went with KK at D4 and Ibbotson at D5 last year, work very well.

    • Big G says:

      I don't like having two mid-pricers on one line (mids)

      I would downgrade Crouch or Brodie and grab another premium from somewhere.

      Also I have a feeling it is Danger's year.

      • Derek says:

        i agree, as of yesterday i had JPK instead of Crouch and Broad instead of McGovern.

        If crouch is named round 1 he will be there to generate cash. he is clearly way undervalued and the name of the game is to make cash. He may even be the first culled if he reaches his max price

        • Gord29 says:

          i too have tinkered with the Lobbe pick with the idea of upgrading him to Goldy later. Interesting defence but understand complete what you have planned will all come down to the timing of your trades

          • Derek says:

            i don't expect Rich, McGovern and Smith to be year long keepers, but if it is like last year and we need to use trdaes to fix up other lines, i have no problem with keeping this defence most of the year, they won't be far off the top 10-15 in total points. Having the top 10-15 type defenders won't put you as far behind the pack as having top 10-15 on other lines.

          • Derek says:

            the only problem with Lobbe to Goldy is, even though Port have a great early draw, so does Norf.

            I did think about going Goldy and Lobbe and then doing a Lobbe >> Jacobes trade in round 10 when ports draw goes bad but crows draw turns very nice.

    • Phil says:

      It's a good team Derek, I respect the fact that you've analysed the NAB and noticed some bargains here and there, but at the same time you know it's not the be all and end all of someone's season and as such still picked Lobbe and B.Crouch…..Think I'll pick Crouch myself, not Lobbe though as I want set and forget otherwise I'd certainly consider him. Good luck!

    • murray says:

      love your team

    • fatboyfat7 says:

      Unique Derek and if it works for you you'll be ahead of the pack. Agree with the other lads, downgrade one defender and upgrade Lobbe. Someone posted really interesting Ruck stats further down on this thread thats worth a read. Lobbe's hit out to advantage stats are shocking and thats where rucks make their points. Ruck scoring system changed since Lobbe's big years too so keep that in mind, wouldn't expect big scores at all.

      • fatboyfat7 says:

        And also, I tried something similar last season and never managed to get Goldy in. Was the biggest regret of the year for me…

  62. KiwiSaint says:

    720660 one spot left experienced player

  63. The Mountain says:

    What are your thoughts on cotchin this year community?

    • West says:

      always seems good value at his price but hasnt shown any signs of him going top 10 again. I think theyre are better options but hes definitely not the worst choice.

    • SCaddict says:

      Probably under-priced but he's let so many coaches down over the years, including Jock, that I doubt few will touch him in 2016.

      I drafted him late in one of my draft leagues this season but I would look at other options in salary cap as West advises.

  64. The Mountain says:

    Or Jacky Steven

    • Chill says:

      Not many are considering him. Only downside is he plays for an ordinary team. I think he's a great POD none-the-less.

      • Benchwarmers says:

        Agree with Chill, top POD and am thinking of moving him in for Rocky – slightly more $$ than Rocky but feel he's a lot more durable – think he almost played every game last year, and as Sarah has mentioned here before, you also need to look at the total points scored by a player, but as Chill says above he does play for the Saints and is one of the top couple of blokes to be tagged each week. Hope it helps.

    • SCaddict says:

      I like that pick a lot more Mr Mountain. About to turn 26 which is prime time for a mid so no reason not to think he will only get better. The Saints collectively as a young group should only improve too.

      Although I can't squeeze him into my classic side I selected him fairly early on in my draft league.

    • Steeeve says:

      Would prefer Armitage, that bloke knows how to go huge.

  65. GoHawks says:

    Appreciate your thoughts.

    Def – Laird, Simpson, Johannisen, Weitering, Brown(ess), Collins (Hibberd, AMT)
    Mids – Fyfe, Dangerfield, Priddis, Ward, Rockliff, Parker, Libba, Mills (B.Kennedy, McPherson, Davis)
    Rucks – Goldstein, Gawn (Loersch)
    Fwd – Barlow, Hall, Menzel, Wells, Menadue, Kerridge (McGovern, Grimley)

    I can take it, so give me your honest thoughts……please

    • Jobesbrownlow says:

      Midfield is too stacked in my opinion. Upgrade Johannisen or Menzel. Preferably both.

      • Holty says:

        lol. 2 weeks ago id be saying the same thing about the midfield but the more i look at what is on offer, the more i see why people are doing it. Its always been the midfield where you make your money with rookies but im seeing the forward line this year is the place its happening.
        At present i have liba at M6 but im tempted to kove him to M7.

        • Jobesbrownlow says:

          I agree a lot of money is to be made with the forward rookies, but even so a lot of these teams are going to be struggling to find the cash to upgrade their failed mid pricers in the defence and up forward later in the year.

          • Holty says:

            yeah, good point with the mid pricers. these teams will struggle to get to full premo by seasons end. I think if you go deep in the mids, you must limit the risks in the other positions. pick players who you are certain will be keepers or good cash cows.

    • Simmo6 says:

      at first glance I really liked it.. But then have doubts on Simpson, Menzel and the 2 GC rookies..

      • Holty says:

        hi simmo
        im hearing this simpson discussion everywhere with doubts and better value around his price. can you please explain why you have doubts over Simpson?

  66. gazza_for_coach says:

    Higgo you are a genius of a man but that def is crazy.

  67. Liam says:

    Thoughts and ideas to improve my team?

    DEF: Laird, Birchall, Rich, Weitering, Brown, Collins (Hartley, Bonner)

    MID: Danger, Smitchell, JPK, Rockliff, Ellis, Libba, Mills, Gresham (Keays, Clarke, Petracca)

    RUC: Goldy, Martin (wyatt)

    FWD: Dusty, Barlow, Greene, Stringer, Bkennedy, Kerridge (mccarthy, tipungwuti)

    thanks in advance

    • Dave says:

      Looks good Liam. Would recommend getting some more uber premos in the guts, not sure Mitchell and Ellis will get the job done.

  68. Simmo6 says:

    Very ballsy as alot of others have highlighted. Really like Sheridan and gray will be huge this year.

    whats the thoughts on this side

    DEF
    Laird, Bartel, lonergan (GC), Dea , Hartley Collins (wb) (ruggles, tipungwuti)

    MID
    Fyfe, Dangerfield, Ablett, gray, Shiel, Parker, liberatore, B crouch (mills, petracca, Davis)

    RUCK
    Goldstein, Z Smith (grimley)

    FWD
    Martin, Barlow, wells, Kennedy, McCarthy, Kerridge (menadue, Adams)

    • Holty says:

      not bad mate. Just some friendly advice though, if you arent planning of playing mills on field, grab a cheaper rookie. Its a lot of money for a player you aren't planning to start onfield.

  69. Blueprime says:

    You can not afford to have a 200+K player on the bench.

  70. Blueprime says:

    Simmo6. I would get rid of one of Gray, Shiel or Parker and move Kerridge to the mid. Pick up Sinclair as insurance for Smith as he is pretty fragile or get someone like Hall or Greene. Sell Mills and get Hewett, Gore, Gresham, Keays or the like. You would then have 180-200K to upgrade Lonergan.

    • Simmo6 says:

      Thanks.. And no offence, but I don't agree your advice at all..

      Gray and Parker are guns.. Gray is my smoky for the Brownlow and Parker well underpriced. Shiel is primed to break out and be a top 8 mid (look at his start last season).

      Sinclair is not guaranteed anymore points than smith as he will be sharing ruck duties/points with Tippett.

      Hall and Greene, yeh maybe.. But a lot of question marks,

      And out of the rookie replacements you have named for mills, not one is guaranteed a game, plus Rodney eade has said Lonergan is set for midfield time with swallow and o'meara out, so should improve on his avg (64).

      Gotta take some risks if your gonna be any good!!

      Thanks though.

  71. Shake n bake says:

    Gault anyone been upgraded?

    • Holty says:

      maybe in other years but he is 200k and with the value floating around tbe forward line this year, i just dont see him as a priority.

  72. Gord29 says:

    still tossing up between hall and tippet in the fwd line just for ruck cover purposes great will have 68K left over with Hall

    BACKS – KK Docherty Lonergan Weitering Dea Brown (ess) Bench- Collins Hartley
    MID – Dangerfield Ablett Shiel Rockliff Parker Liberatore Mills Parish
    Bench – Gresham Petracca Davis
    RUCKS – Mumford Gawn
    Bench – Grimley
    FWDS – Martin Barlow Tippet/Hall Greene Wells Kennedy
    Bench – Menadue Tippy

    • Sam says:

      I think Oliver would be a better pick than Parish. Personally I like Hall more than Tippett.

      • Gord29 says:

        sorry didn't re read it its actually Kerridge there i have change my team that many times haha. yea i just like having the ruck cover but don't want to miss the hall boat

    • evilbeanman says:

      your midfield could have lots of injuries this season

      • Gord29 says:

        everyones midfield could have lots of injures? rockliff hammy tightness he would have played during the year its the nab cup though and ablett ankle why risk him durning the nab cup he has been running at training

  73. G. B. says:

    Folks

    McCarthy or Kennedy?

    If Kennedy I have to change mason Cox to Choll at R3.

    Please advise.

    Thanks heaps

    G

  74. Mark says:

    Thoughts on JJ or rich

    • SCaddict says:

      Rich is one of those players that looks good on paper but it just doesn't seem to work out as most coaches hope. Too often goes missing in games and can sometimes be shutdown by opposition tactics.

      He had 6 games below 60pts last season which is pretty typical of what you can expect from him if you trawl back through his career data.

      So while he certainly has the capacity to ton up you need to be prepared for some infuriating weekends much like a KPP if you select him.

  75. I've got two areas of concern for my team.

    1. Why is KK is so many teams? What is is role likely to be for 2016?

    2. At D3 I can include Yeo, McGovern, Rich, Johannisen, Sheridan. Who is going to be the most reliable? Who is going to score the most?

    • SCaddict says:

      With regards Q2 I think nearly everyone on this site would like the definitive answer to what we do at D3 and D4.

      I'll probably be taking a pure value position and running with someone like McKenzie at D3 who while almost certainly underpriced also has some significant risk attached.

      But let's face it all those other guys you mention also have some sort of question mark looming over them too and frankly we are kidding ourselves if we believe otherwise. You could also throw Rosa, Smith, Hurn, Johnson, Suckling and a bunch others into that mix.

      To quote Gerard Healy from On The Couch "it's chook lotto" I'm afraid.

      • Scott says:

        SCaddict I'm interested that you have McKenzie D3 I like him a lot and looked at him there myself with 3 other rookies filling in the other spots, but with their recent poor performances in NAB 3 and the uncertainty around job security moved him out to D4. It's cost me a premo in the middle but firmed up the backline and given me less sleepless nights!

        • SCaddict says:

          Yes that's certainly one way to go Scott and if it helps you sleep a little easier then all power to you!

          Like Higgo I'm fairly comfortable with a relatively bare bones defence (currently Laird, Bartel, McKenzie plus rooks).

          I expect my midfield and ruck strength to more than compensate for any deficiencies in my total defence output. Also the abolition of the vest reduces anxiety levels a little in playing 3 rookie defenders on one's field this season.

      • Chook lotto! Love it. And yeah, the extra's you've added on are certainly eligible layers.

        So do you think KK has significant upside or just limited downside risk?

        • SCaddict says:

          I still think KK is fantasy relevant and probably a good selection this season but his recent soft tissue niggle (calf) however minor does dampen my interest just a little. So that's why I'm running with Bartel as a personal preference instead.

    • evilbeanman says:

      Johannisen

  76. Sam says:

    Interesting team Higgo, love the risk and reward strategy!

    Any thoughts on my team community?

    Def: Kolodjashnij, Sheridan, Lonergan, D Howe, Dea, Hartley (Broad, Brown)

    Mid: Fyfe, Dangerfield, Ablett, Rockliff, Wines, Liberatore, B Crouch, Mills (Oliver, Menadue, Gresham)

    Ruck: Naitanui, Gawn (Cox)

    Fwd: Martin, Barlow, Hall, Wells, Kennedy, Kerridge (Petracca, McDonald-Tipungwuti)

    94k remaining

    Not sure if I should go with Sheridan&Howe vs Laird&Adams ?

    Cheers for any feedback!

  77. Cyril is delicious says:

    Kennedy or Wells at f4?
    Cheers

  78. Hoff says:

    Hey guys I would love and appreciate advice or criticism for my team. Thanks
    DEF: Shaw, KK, Sutcliffe, Sheridan, Weitering, Dea (McDonald-Tip, Brown(ess))
    MID: Fyfe, Danger, Hannebury, Gaff, Rocky, Libby, Mills, Oliver (Davis, McPherson, Marconi)
    RUC: Martin, Yawn (Chol)
    FWD: Barlow, Merritt, Hall, Wells, B.Kennedy, Kerridge (Beech, Galluci)
    Thanks

  79. CapTnKaOs says:

    Injury lists have been updated today on the AFL website for anyone who wants to look.

  80. Hawker says:

    Suggested Premo Midifelder at around 500-550K with rockliff at M4

    • Jobesbrownlow says:

      Parker, Wines…

    • Gord29 says:

      look and pick a few names out you like then ask what people think

    • Hawker says:

      maybe Macrae?

    • CapTnKaOs says:

      He is just under 500k, but I'm tipping a big year for Duncan. His true value is 500k+

    • Leeds17 says:

      Parker & Wines Obvious but still good choices, I like Dylan Shiel & Mitch Duncan.

    • evilbeanman says:

      2 injury and can lose his cool there are better options than Rocky

      • SCaddict says:

        Well you better hope he gets injured or suspended or he will probably be dropping 160s on your ass rather than in your SC score column. :)

        • Andrew says:

          Hi Addict, respect your comments. Who do you think is going to be solid in defense? I have Laird and JJ (admit risk) I can grab any other defender up to 530k, who do you suggest?

          • SCaddict says:

            Yes I'm a firm believer in Laird and have him squarely locked away at D1 so good choice in my book. I'm definitely tempted by JJ and he has been in and out for me. He will be in at least one of my fantasy sides although not presently SC.

            I also really like Simpson too, such a consistent performer, even in bad Carlton teams. Rarely misses a game as well. In fact has only missed an astounding 5 games in the past 10 years!

            Unfortunately my own budget doesn't quite currently extend to him so I have to settle on Bartel and his associated risks at least for now. But as you have the funds already I say get Simmo in. He should provide that premium reliability you are looking for in defence.

        • mickytymms says:

          i thought u were a guru until i heard that rockcliff draw and extra mids and the amount of people taking him turns me off hes only had one bumper year and injury prone also no nab i cant take him and gaz so iam running with better dearer rookies instead and dropping the gun mids to wines and cripps to get better cash flow

    • Andrew says:

      I really like Duncan at 490's.

  81. Sam says:

    Why no one interested in Daniel Howe?

  82. Engo says:

    Please let me know your thoughts on this team.

    Def: Shaw, Laird, Birchall, Weitering, Dea, Brown (Adams, Hartley)
    Mid: Ablett, Fyfe, Dangerfield, Rockliff, Parker, Liberatore, Mills, Kerridge (Gresham, Petracca, Davis)
    Ruc: Gawn, Smith (Chol)
    Fwd: Martin, Barlow, S Gray, Wells, Simpkin, Menadue (McCarthy, AMT)

    Thoughts and opinions will be hugely appreciated

    • SCaddict says:

      The only thing that doesn't particularly sit well with me is Zac Smith. I just don't see him as much of a fantasy performer although other community members like maybe even Jock himself may disagree. So i wouldn't waste any time on him and would go straight up to another elite ruck instead.

      The easiest way to accomplish this would be to a sacrifice an over inflated fat cat like Shaw and bring in a "value" defender. That way you could even start with Goldy rather than having pipe dreams of one day bringing him in whilst you suffer Zac's mediocre production each round.

      But otherwise I really like the rest of your squad.

  83. Joel says:

    Zorko out with a knee indefinitely. Afl.com Rich and Robinson are tempting me.

  84. Coach says:

    Dylan SHIEL, great NAB and ready to explode. Thoughts??

  85. Scott says:

    Shaw, Laird, McGovern, Weitering, Hartley, Collins.

    Fyfe, Dangerfield, Pendlebury, Ablett, Rockliff, Libba, Wells, Mills

    Martin, Gawn

    D.Martin, Barlow, Franklin, Menadue, Kerridge, M.Brown

    Rookies on all benches

    Thoughts would be great

  86. Phil says:

    Anybody out there know if Kennedy ran through the midfield at all? Because if he's just playing as a small forward I can see him being a small trap

  87. evilbeanman says:

    my team is stronger than yours Higgo I do like you taking on goldy I can't see him getting 110+ this season I've gone for stability over yo yo players and injury prone players my team is

    Back Line
    H Shaw, R Laird, J Johannisen, T Sheridan, M Dea, N Broad.
    Bench M Brown (ess), A McDonald-Tipungwuti.

    Midfield
    S Pendlebury, D Mundy, M Priddis, C Ward, T Adams, M Barlow, M Robinson, C Mills.
    Bench M Hibberd, B Keays, R Davis.

    Rucks M Blicavs, M Gawn.
    Bench M Cox.

    Forwards T Greene, A Hall, J De Goey, C Menadue, S Kerridge, M Adams.
    Bench S Grimley, M McGovern.

    • Hawker says:

      Sheridan- Hartley
      Mundy- Super premo

    • Gord29 says:

      better off having barlow in the fwd line interesting pick with bilcavs had a good year last year but role may very this year

    • KPL says:

      Not a fan to be honest, Barlow should be in your forwards line. Wouldn't consider robinson as i doubt hes even going to be a top 20 midfielders. would probably downgrade to maybe oliver/kennedy/parish or someone else whos gonna play to free up cash and also improve cash generation

    • I can see why you want barlow, robinson et al in the mids because it allows you to run more value in the forward line which is looking pretty juicy. I think you'll get more sensible commentary but just flicking Barlow/Robinson and menadu/Kerridge around.

      That said, I don't like it. Non injury prone = people who don't go in hard enough for awesome supercoach points. Think Teen Wolf, those points don't come for free, they are earned in battle. Get Rocky, get Libba. Oh, and your principle is not being strictly adhered to, Barlow broken leg, knee sprain, broken finger in a relatively short career. Pretty sure pendles and heater have broken legs too. Not every knee injury means they become daniel menzel….

      • Lazy_Simmo says:

        Lot of risk involved there Evil. Not sure on your Goldy call (not going to make 110+ but picking Blicavs?). Agree with above comments

  88. Danners says:

    A very interesting team Higgo, unfortunately you should have at least a player like Laird that you can rely on to get good scores. The defence structure could work, but most likely it won't. It might also be wise to listen to Crouching's Pyanmah children stories. They picked out "The Gift" as a burnman which was true, maybe a loaded midfield isn't the way to go

    • Throtts says:

      Agree. Even a Simmo who is a guaranteed 90-95 each week.

      I've started going away from the loaded midfield. 2 rooks on field. May try three if my plums start feeling plus sized. Need to generate money and mids are the fastest way…and in this case also helps fortify your back line.

  89. Dasha says:

    hartley or brown community?

  90. Hawker says:

    Thoughts on "The Bont" as a POD

    • Pete says:

      Will he be the same with libba back.
      Bit too risky I've been tempted myself though, the blokes a freak

  91. Jim says:

    Menadue or Kennedy?

    • Jonathan Camac says:

      Kennedy – if you have the cash. Will get game time. Menadue may get game time early due to injuries, but not sure if he'll hold best 22.

  92. Schmalls says:

    Sorry higgo dont like it . Way too much risk in that defence .

  93. Ratitat says:

    League Code: 949229. Looking for experienced players to make it competitive

  94. DadSmasher says:

    Dear Mr Higgins,
    I understand that at your age the oldtimers disease can affect your memory but I thought that a man of your academic stature would also understand this and make note of the biggest mistakes that they make during a SC season to ensure that they're not repeated.
    From the look of your current lineup it is obvious that your illness is more progressed than I expected.
    I hope this jogs your memory of the man you have at D2. At this time last year a man called Daniel was being announced as the absolute must have, he was only $348K and coming off a 2014 ave of 81(from 3 games and 86 from 16 games in 2013)). Many jumped into the get Rich quick scheme and were rewarded after he opened with 126,100,93 and in round 7 a 122. Going into the byes he was valued at $441K but rather than scrap him too many held on to see his price drop back to $340k by round 19.
    You're paying 436K to have this man as your D2 yet in his best year ever he only ave 90 and finished at $438k.
    Get some help old fella.

    • Jim says:

      maybe people are selecting him because he played lots of midfield time in the nab and with Beams down injured he will fill that role maybe?

      • DadSmasher says:

        Hi Jim, he played lots of midtime last NAB also which is why everyone including me jumped on. But this year Lions recruited Christianson and Bell and got some good mid draftees but, they only lost a very low scoring adcock. Christianson will have the creative role, I just don't see Rich averaging over 85 which isn't good enough for a D2 and will cost an unnecessary trade unless he thinks that his D,3,4,5,6 can be upgraded to 90plus scorers which is highly unlikely.
        On top of that Rich hasn't managed a full season since 2010

        • Adam says:

          Dadsmasher, Brisbane recruited Christensen at the end of 2014 not last year. It was Jansen they got from the Cats

    • Chill says:

      Completely agree DadSmasher. Rich is a trap… an bloody over-priced trap. Avoid.

  95. Blueprime says:

    Not all that original I know but am comfortable with it at the moment.

    Shaw McGovern Smith Malceski Dea Brown Hartley K Collins

    Fyfe Dangerfield Ablett Rockliff Liberatore B Crouch Kerridge Oliver Menadue Hewett Davis

    Martin Naitanui Cox

    Barlow Greene Hall Sinclair Wells B Kennedy Petracca McDonald-Tipungwuti & 23600

    If you have had a look then have your say.

  96. Jim says:

    Any know much about Hewett from the Swans? Will he get games?

    • magpie4ver says:

      He's on my watch list. If he gets named rd 1 I might go with him?

    • SCaddict says:

      He's an outside chance to get games early with the Swannies injury list but JS would be iffy at best.

      Hopefully Gore, Keays or Petracca get named for Rd1 as I reckon they are superior choices for the same coin for your midfield bench. Gresham and Menadue are only $20-30K more as well.

      • Jim says:

        SCaddict Menadue or Kennedy if I can only select one?

        • SCaddict says:

          Geez that's a toughie as I expect both will be a couple of the better cash cows this season. Menadue's stocks really soared with the Tige's injuries last week. Remember we only need these guys to play at least the first 6 or 7 games and Conca is out 8-10.

          But Kennedy has been ultra impressive in the NAB so I'd probably roll with him if you can only have but I have squeezed both into Addicts. I also like their DPP status which gives me heaps of flexibility for exploiting emergency loophole opportunities early in my forward line when combined with say Petracca in the opposing line.

          • Jim says:

            Geez Addict, whats your structure like if you don't mind me asking and also are you starting Shaw and Goldy?

            • SCaddict says:

              Like everyone else I'm still tinkering with my side but in essence I'm running with a budget defence like a lot of coaches and also searched for value in my forward line too.

              This has not only allowed me to construct an imposing midfield and a locked an loaded ruck but also jump on some of what I see as the best midifeld and forward rookies that cost a little more like Menadue, Kennedy, Mills, Oliver etc.

              Heater has never for a moment graced the backline of Addicts in 2016 even though I started with him last season. Just refuse to pay that kind of cash for a defender out of principle. Goldy is my starting R1 and I can't really see that changing and also running with Stef at R2.

              How's your team looking Jim?

    • Steeeve says:

      Good authority tells me he is unlikely for round one, Sydney too deep. Feeling amongst some close to the situation is his younger brother (Cameron Hewett, Power, $102k) could even debut first.
      But that's a real stretch given Cam's one nab game he played just one quarter, the one against Sydney when it bucketed down, and went for a negative Supercoach score.
      I'd say definitely put George on the watch list but don't hold your breath for an early season debut.

  97. Jobesbrownlow says:

    Should both be selected round 1, who should I start – Gresham or Menadue?

    • SCaddict says:

      Close one as both have scored similarly on a point per minute basis over the NAB.

      However given the Tiges injuries and Menadue played significant minutes in all 3 games plus his DPP bonus tips the scales slightly in his favour for me, as I could really make good use of that positional flexibility in my own team.

      However Gresham is an excellent choice too and slightly cheaper which may be more appealing to other coaches especially if they gain no real benefit from Menadue's DPP.

    • Menadue more likely to be named…so stick with that for now…also costs a bit more so can downtrade easily should you want to trade last minute

  98. Kevin says:

    My team so far

    DEF: H.Shaw, K.Kolo, J.Johanissen, M.Dea, N.Broad, M.Adams (M.Brown, A. McDonald-Tipungwuti)

    MID: P.Dangerfield, S.Pendlebury, G.Ablett, T.Rockliff, M.Crouch, T.Liberatore, C.Mills, D.Parish (B.Macaffer, B.Keays, R.Davis)

    RUC: S.Martin , M.Gawn (D.Currie)

    FWD: D.Martin, A.Hall, M.Barlow, D.Menzel, S.Kerridge, C.Petracca (W.Milera, N.Kommer)

    Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated ! :)

  99. 'Don't Blush Babbie' says:

    Who does everyone believe will be the top 6 Scoring Defenders at Seasons End ;

    Shaw,Boyd,McVeigh,McDonald,Rance,Laird ? – Houli, Simpson, Enright, Murphy ? Have I missed anyone ?

    • Tret says:

      i reckon youve just about named them all.

      A lot of these low 400k picks look good value but I cant see them averaging enough to be season long keepers which is why im staying away

    • Blueprime says:

      Malceski.

      • Blueprime says:

        2014. 22 Games, Average points 105.41, Season Ranking 14. You don't lose it all overnight even though he is 31. Showed good signs in NAB 3 at half rat power.

    • neil says:

      first one we should have at least 4 imo

    • SCaddict says:

      Yeah there's this one guy named Jimmy.

      It's like he's fallen off the end of the earth or something as everyone seems to have written his fantasy obituary already.

      Folks could get a wake-up call on Easter Monday though as those are just the sorts of games he likes to go BANG!

      • Grahame Lebroy says:

        Are u picking him as a keeper in your backline?

        • SCaddict says:

          If I did then yes that would be the expectation. Still vacillating between him and Simpson for my D2. Have Laird firmly locked at D1.

          But either way I'd love to see him go huge on Easter Monday if only to see all the second guessing that goes on around here as we can all be prisoners of the moment including myself.

          For instance last week I saw heaps of teams that had Stringer in their forward lines after he had a super NAB2. But this week not so much after he cooled off in NAB3 which is what I would expect from a typical KPP.

          All I'm saying is that we shouldn't be too quick to write off a champion like Jimmy.

    • KK could def go into 4-6 top defenders. Many running him at R1. But for the calf niggle seems a pretty good store of value, bit like gold really.

    • Scouser says:

      Gibson, maybe Sheets a chance?

  100. Find Matthew Jaensch says:

    This might seem like a silly comment, but I tried to check out Matthew Jaensch to see if he'd be an option for my team, but when I search for his profile on the Supercoach site, his name doesn't come up!

    Anyone have any idea why I can't find him? He's definitely still on Adelaide's list, and FanFooty says he's $407,900.

    Not really thinking of picking him but I thought it was weird that I can't find him.

  101. Paul says:

    D: Shaw, Birchall, Yeo, Johannisen Weitering, Dea (AMT, Ruggles)
    M: Fyfe, Dangerfield, Ablett, Cripps, Libba, B Crouch, Mills, Parish (Gresham, G Hewett, Davis)
    R: Gawn, Kreuzer (Korcheck)
    F: Martin, Barlow, Greene, Wells, Milera, Kerridge (B Kennedy, McCarthy)

    Pretty happy with this so far. Might change Parish for the big Ranga from Melbourne if he isn't named round 1. Thought it was strange that he didn't play NAB2 or NAB3.

    • Scott says:

      Like the structure Paul, few PODS, thought the same about Parish. Not too many teams will have Kruzer, he was all the rage last year. Rockcliff is an interesting omission, can go big and it breaks your heart if he's not in your team. Rookies look good. Good luck.

      • Paul says:

        Thanks mate. Bit concerned about Rockliff's lack of preseason, and a bit scared off by them saying he's going to play forward more this year. When I saw Cripps get 26 touches with a bunch of clearances, contested ball and a goal I just couldn't go past him, and he did it in 53% game time as well!

        Kreuzer is a big risk, but he's just finished the first full pre-season of his career. He should hopefully put together a strong start and allow me to get Goldstein later on, if he drops a bit in value from his tough start to the year.

  102. JeremiahTheBullfrog says:

    Hey guys, would love some feedback on my current side – particularly my bench options and lower priced players on each line.

    Def: Shaw, Laird, Kolodashnij, Sheridan, Weitering, Brown (Ess), Hartley, Mcdonald-Tipungwuti

    Mid: Fyfe, Dangerfield, Ablett, Shiel, Cripps, Libba, B. Crouch, Mills, Polkinghorne, Keays, Davis (GC)

    Ruc: Martin, Gawn, Wyatt

    Fwd: Barlow, Hall, De Goey, Wells, Kerridge, Petracca, Grimley, Phillips (Coll)

    Thanks in advance – give me all you got

    • @GOODO71 says:

      Looks pretty good from here. Only comment would be that you could downgrade Crouch to a rookie priced player and use the cash to turn De Goey into a low $500k / high $400k keeper

    • Cozza says:

      The rookie/bench players look okay at this stage, although we will have to wait until next Thursday to know for sure! Apparently Polkinghorne will not be right for Rd1 and Keays is also unlikely, so it might be worthwhile looking for some replacements for those 2. Phillips is also unlikely for Rd 1.

  103. superbj says:

    Hey guys, de goey or jack steele

  104. Doc says:

    community,

    What do you think JOhanissen v suckling at D3?

    Rest of backline is shaw, Rampe, …… , weitering, Des, Hartley (bench: broad, ruggles)

    • Scouser says:

      I reckon Johansson Doc, feel the doggies will play to their strengths through the middle more often than not and Arrows might not see it as much on the wing in games they dominate through the corridor which could be quite a few. Both pretty good value picks though I reckon.

  105. George says:

    Goldstein/DeGoey/Weitering
    OR
    Martin/BKennedy/Hurm

    • Superbj says:

      I like the 2nd option. Too many maybes in the first. Could be the 2nd year blues for de goey and weitering will probably get rested through out the year.

    • Grahame Lebroy says:

      1

    • Cozza says:

      2 for me. Hurn and Martin likely to be keepers – only 1 keeper in option 1 unless DeGeoy goes crazy – not sold on him though.

  106. Doc says:

    shaw and z.smith. + 80k Or. Laird and s.martin

    • Blueprime says:

      2.

    • Grahame Lebroy says:

      2

    • @GOODO71 says:

      Laird and S. Martin. Zac Smith looked great in NAB 1 & 2, but still not sure who gets the ruck duties at Catland once the real stuff begins

    • SCaddict says:

      Option 2 in a heartbeat for me.

      I won't hate on Heater and his price tag any further as the community knows I've flogged that horse to death already.

      But Zac Smith just aint a SC relevant player in my book. As impressive as he may have looked at times in the NAB his performance just doesn't translate to impressive SC points I'm sorry to say.

      Just look at the stats. He's never averaged 80pts in his AFL career which isn't even close to premo material at the ruck position. His durability is also a major cause for concern and to top it off he has a gazillion others vying for ruck minutes at the Cattery. An easy avoid for me.

      Also both Laird and Stef are in my own team so then there's that…

      • Dave says:

        Would you mind showing your team SC, would love to get a look at it.

        • SCaddict says:

          I promise to reveal all to those who may be interested well before next Thursday Dave.

          My team is fairly similar to Higgo's, BVC's and many others in term of structure and there are only a couple of quasi PODs in there.

  107. Walk says:

    fwd for 450-500k, thinking Z Merret or Greene. thoughts?

    • Sooooo many to choose from. Some young kid called Brett, I even heard some call him Boomer. Patch reckoned he'll be great star of the future, maybe get in early before its too late.

      Want some ruck cover? Tippett (but better and cheaper Sinclair)
      Want a breakout condender? Oh, you've got Hall.
      Want a breakout condender that butchers the ball? Greene
      Want the highest paid player in the game (total contract)? Bloody Franklin
      Want the Coleman medalist? Walker/Jroo?
      Want someone who's team is going to cop a flogging most weeks? Merret

      It all just depends on what you want. Oh, supercoach points….Franklin will gather the most IMHO

    • Scouser says:

      I'd think twice about Merett Walk, might not see an awful lot of it when the real stuff starts. Greene would be my pick from those two by a country mile although I'm not sold hon him either. Another not mentioned below but with heaps of potential and flying under the radar is Robinson who should go well and could crack top 10.

  108. Matt says:

    Shaw, Laird, Gibbo, Weitering, Dea, Hartley (Brown, Ruggles)

    Danger, Ablett, Priddis, Rocky, Parker, Libba, Mills, B.Kennedy (Davis, Keays, Petracca)

    Goldstein, Gawn (Cox)

    Barlow, The Devon, Hall, Wells, Milera, Kerridge (Menedue, "aurehr-dfdsfnjdkf" (guy from Essendon worth 102K)

  109. Stevo says:

    Impressive shark moves set up early Higgo. Liking the deep midfield and rucks. Defence risk justified though may cost early wins. Most interesting POD selections I can see are Rich & Greene. Could go either way. Good luck with Kathy too!

  110. neil says:

    how do you know he has Steeve I will wait till I see my oponents team r1..A lot of Dereks views just don't add up I smell a rat in accountants clothing . could be wrong butttttt … smith rich McGovern compared to weitering dea johanson all three will fatten just like Liba Crouch and mccaffer probably more and quicker Only my opinion Derek it is a game by the way Liam Jones is in my team trained the house down plays for carlton dpp a must have imo

    • Derek says:

      I was going to put Zac Dawson in there as well ;)

    • Steeeve says:

      I was quoting the original post to make a sly reference to anal intercourse, given Higgo is in need of some encouragement wth the ladies. You may have read a bit much into it mate.

      • Derek says:

        Im still tinkering and think it might be best to go Smith to Dea, and McGovern to Laird

      • neil says:

        fair point steve and I might add funny went over my head but I still think there is a lot of ducks and drakes in these pages to throw people off particularly when you know they are in league or elite sc players

        • Derek says:

          McGovern was a bit of a curve ball, he didn't last in the team that long. Has been removed and replaced by dea and Smith has become laird.

  111. @GOODO71 says:

    Great work Higgo, and all the best for a fantastic 2016 Supercoach season. General structure similar to my own. I personally wouldn't touch Daniel Rich, but then again I rolled the dice last year with Shaun Higgins and the gamble paid off handsomely. So good luck to you sir.

    Appreciate any thoughts on my (current) team Community :

    DEF: Laird, KK, Johanissen, Dea, Hartley, Collins (Adams, Adamson)

    MID: Danger, GAJ, Priddis, Ward, Rocky, Adams, Libba, Mills (Petracca, Hibberd, Davis)

    RUC: Martin, Gawn (Loersch)

    FWD: Zorko, Barlow, Hall, Wells, Menadue, Kerridge (Grimly, McDonald-Tipungwuti)

    And yes, I know Zorko will miss round 1 :-)

    • Juzzy says:

      Like the team.

      Love the Ward, Adams PODs.
      Not sure there is a spot for both Collins and Adams at the dogs in Def on a regular basis.

      Love the balls of keeping Zorko despite round 1. With Beams out he might put up some huge scores and save you a trade in a couple of months while everyone is trying to figure out how to get him in.

  112. Juzzy says:

    Hi Community.

    It's bloody great to have Jock and the boys back this year. As well as the whole lot of you and your insight.
    Have never posted a team before so here goes ….
    Beware though … If Higgos backline made you shudder maybe best you skip to the next post.

    DEF : Rich, Sheridan, Weitering,
    Dea, Brown (Ess), Adams. (Hartley, AMcT)

    MID : Fyfe, Danger, Pendles, Ablett, Priddis,
    Rocky, Libba, Mills. (Gresham, Petracca, Keays)

    RUCK : Goldy, Gawn. (Wyatt)

    FOR : Dusty, Barlow, Greene,
    Wells, Menadue, Kerridge. (McCarthy, Grimley)

    Would love any feedback as I think half the fun of supercoach is hearing different points of view.
    (The other half is calling the Mate you just thumped in a league match on Sunday night.).

    Cheers, Juzzy.

  113. 'Don't Blush Babbie' says:

    D.Wells or B.Kennedy with a 50k sell price difference – all being equal over 5 rounds ,who is going to generate the most cash and why ? In my team its one or the other for F4? if anyone says both there dreamin !

    • @GOODO71 says:

      Wells has a much bigger upside than Kennedy, but the question with him is always gonna be whether his body will hold up.

    • Grahame Lebroy says:

      Wells easily

    • Juzzy says:

      Wells picks himself in Norths best 22. Kennedy may be in and out if he doesn't fire early.
      So … Wells. Just be mentally prepared for when his leg drops off in the warmup for round 7.

    • Phil says:

      Wells picks himself because you're never going to have to make a difficult decision with him…Basically if he's fit he'll score well, if he gets injured trade him…simple.
      If Kennedy starts pushing out 60's (or worse gets dropped) you're not going to know to trade him, or hold off and hope he improves…,.difficult.

  114. George says:

    I have Wells F3 and Kennedy F4

  115. Jesse says:

    Probably the slimmest defensive setup I've seen to datr this year! Verg very ballsy! You'd be wishing for 100s out of rich and 80s at worst from sheridan! I've gone big in defence with 3 huge keepers! Its good to see so many different strategies! Good luck champ

    • Juzzy says:

      Ta Jesse,
      Good luck to you as well,
      Who are your 3 Def locks ? I can't pick any other than Shaw.
      Until the season starts and we see who is playing what role and who teams are tagging buggered if I know.
      I am going for a wait and see approach in defense and spending elsewhere.

      • Cozza says:

        I would consider the following to be locks in the Def line – Shaw, Boyd, McVeigh (when he is back), Rance, Houli, Laird, Bartel – KK and McDonald are floating around there as well, I just feel nervous putting them in my team!

  116. kevwal says:

    Any pies fans looking in? Why no mention of Marley Williams? On the list, not injured but only played NAB 3. Very promising for a breakout year going on the stats.

  117. VEX says:

    117-123k midfield rookie and Shaw

    Or

    Houli and Mills

    also are there any other better options than Houli around that price range? Already have Laird

  118. The mongrel punt says:

    Not sure mother would approve of that backline higgo

  119. poloko48 says:

    Team reveal #53

    DEF: Heater, Laird, Bartel, Weitering, MBrown (FWD), Hartley (Adams (FWD), KCollins)
    MID: Fyfe, Hannebery, Priddis, Ward, Wines, Libba, Mills, Oliver (Gore, Petracca (FWD), Davis)
    RUC: Sauce, ZSmith (Chol (FWD))
    FWD: Dusty (MID), Barlow (MID), Tippett (RUC), MJones, Wells (MID), Kerridge (MID) (Kommer, McDonald-Tip (DEF))

    Feedback welcome, thanks all.

    • poloko48 says:

      Have had a rethink on rucks and have now ditched ZSmith & MJones for Blicavs and MMcGovern.
      Have also gone with MKing for R3 for loophole purposes.

      DEF: Heater, Laird, Bartel, Weitering, MBrown (FWD), Hartley (Adams (FWD), KCollins)
      MID: Fyfe, Hannebery, Priddis, Ward, Wines, Libba, Mills, Oliver (Gore, Petracca (FWD), Davis)
      RUC: Sauce, Blicavs (MID) (MKing (FWD))
      FWD: Dusty (MID), Barlow (MID), Tippett (RUC), Wells (MID), Kerridge (MID), Kommer (MMcGovern, McDonald-Tip (DEF))

  120. TRIGGER HAPPY says:

    What r our thoughts on an F8 this year?
    I had Grimley there all season as a dpp swing into the rucks but his nab cup has shown he will struggle to score so a security policy in the
    rucks for 40 pts hardly seems worth it.

    Thinking now i may put in a fwd rookie and loose the dpp like mccarthy?
    I wasn't planning on trading out this spot as it was ruck insurance but figure now should make some cash and trade out when fattened?

    • SCaddict says:

      I intend to use a loophole swing set configuration so it will be Grimley/Wyatt at R3/F8 for Addicts unless rookie availability next Thursday somehow throws a spanner in the works there with my overall team structure.

  121. Sam says:

    Hey fellas, looking for some comments and thoughts of any kind of version 2000 of my squad

    DEF: R.Lair, Z.Tuohy, J.Weitering, M.Dea, M.Brown, M.Adams (C.Adamson, A.McDonald-Tipungwuti)

    MID: N.Fyfe, P.Dangerfield, S.Pendlebury, G.Ablett, T.Rockliff, T.Liberatore, C.Mills, D.Parish (N.Freeman, C.Petracca, J.Dunkley)

    RUCK: T.Goldstein, Z.Smith (M.Cox)

    FOR: D.Martin, M.Barlow, S.Gray, A.Hall, D.Wells, C.Ellis (S.Kerridge, S.Grimley)

    Stacked the midfield and forward lines and done the same as Higgo going with a thin midfield, as much as my mate cracks it at me for not having Shaw. I'll target him when he drops in price. Tuohy is a POD, he's done well in the NAB Cup, and god knows carlton will have it in their backline enough. Dunkley is an emotional pick because he's a kid from my home town that i've played footy with, plus he loves a contested ball.

  122. Juzzy says:

    Hey Trigger,

    Same problem. I am getting flashbacks to the Bellchambers debacle last year (albeit at less than half the cost).
    I think the more important question is will Grimley play ? And if so how many games before he gets a bit of VFL time especially with Luenberger supposedly fit..
    I have him for the same reason you (and everyone) does, but I am not convinced he is a lock in Essendons best 22. If you think he is keep him for the insurance. If you ain't sure he will even be in the team come round 5 pick a better cash cow and pray your rucks don't get hurt. Again … even if they do and Grim ain't playing … No insurance.

    • SCaddict says:

      The main difference is that Grimley is about one third the premium cost of TBC last season. So that makes for very cheap insurance indeed even if there is likely a large excess on the Grimley policy.

      As far as cash cows go there as only so many you can cash out in a season anyway although I appreciate your argument that there are probably better options out there.

      But the chances of both your rucks playing every single game are not flash and those unmitigated ruck donuts can be very tough to stomach when you're actually faced with them. Just ask Throttlefinger about his wild ride on the Mummy Express last season! :)

      • Juzzy says:

        Yep.

        You are spot on. I can't let him go for that exact reason. Let's hope he has a blinding start to the season and Mason Cox gets named for round 9.

        Good luck Mate.

  123. Adam says:

    I'm going crazy………12 changes every day
    Please some advice on my team
    B. Laird, KK, JJ, Rich, Weitering,M Brown ( Bonner, Hartley)
    M. Fyfe, Danger, GAJ, Rocky, Libba, Mills, Oliver, Parish ( Menadue, Menegola, Davis)
    R. Goldy, Gawn (Grimley)
    F. Barlow,Tippett, Z Merrett, Wells, Kent, Kerridge ( McCarthy, Petracca)

  124. Jackwatt$ says:

    2016 Johannisen is 2015 Lumumba
    2016 Laird is 2015 Newnes
    2016 Parker is 2015 Griffen
    2016 Lobbe is 2015 Bellchambers

    Be smart people, learn from your mistakes, don't follow the herd, the herd is usually wrong!

    • SCaddict says:

      Yes Derek I'm afraid Lobbe is really just TBC in disguise in an effort to throw off WADA compliance officials. I suggest you look elsewhere for your R2 my friend.

      • Derek says:

        I had TBC last year, I still feel the pain….. But I was able to trade TBC to Jacobes round 6 and saved over $100k on the trade.

        The Lobbe move is designed to get Goldy cheaper, hopefully by round 6.

        I think Lobbe is a better footballer

    • Juzzy says:

      I think I heard what you are saying.

    • Cozza says:

      Not sure about the Laird call – tipping Laird to do the same or increase on last year

    • PJ8 says:

      How the hell is Laird the Newnes???

      Laird averaged 93 in 2015.
      Newnes 80 in 2014.

      Laird proved himself as a premo defender. Newnes was a mid price gamble.

      Also Newnes finished 2015 with 90 average which is 10 points better. So if Laird is the same he will average 103.

      I'm happy with that.

    • Danners says:

      I would say most of them are right other than Parker, he is still only in his early 20's and you're saying he will get worse. Griffen is a few years older

  125. Schnitzel Fingers says:

    My team

    Def: Shaw, Laird, Johannisen, Weitering, Brown, Collins, Hartley, Ruggles
    Mid: Fyfe, Pendles, Ablett, Shiel, Rockliff, Libba, Mills, Kennedy, Gresham, Gore, Davis
    Ruc: Goldstein, Nic Nat, Wyatt
    Fwd: Martin, Barlow, Johnson, Wells, Kerridge, Petracca, Grimley, Mcdonald tipudhdnebej

    • Keenbutclueless says:

      Johnson is a nice POD. The rest looks almost identical to every other team posted here. Which means it is solid, and how you go through the year will depend on how you trade. Good luck for the season

      • Schnitzel Fingers says:

        Ok cool. Pretty fair assessment. Im pretty keen on selwood. I understand we havent seen anything from him this preseason and its been publicised that he's had some issues but im still keen on him. If he comes out firing he could be a massive pod

  126. Billy says:

    Def – Laird, KK, Bartel, Weitering, Dea, Brown (ess) (M, Adams, K. Collins)

    Mids – Fyfe, Ablett, Mundy, Rocky, Parker, Libba, Mills, B. Kennedy (Gresham, McPherson, Sumner)

    Rucks – Goldstein, Gawn (Wyatt)

    Fwd – Dusty, Barlow, Hall, Wells, Kerridge, Petracca (Mccarthy, Grimley)

    Give me your thoughts everybody, nothing too exciting going on except for me sneakily slipping Mundy in at M3 ;)

    Also what are everyones thoughts on Devon Smith, can go huge, can he do it often enough?

    • SCaddict says:

      Yeah I've been seeing a few teams with Mundy in there this week although that selection is just not for me Billy. I plan to run with Hanners as my elite POD mid instead.

      But I'm quite a fan of Devon Smith and expect he will perform well this season. Although I can't quite fit him into my SC side in 2016 I do have him selected in RDT.

  127. Cozza says:

    Sorry Derek, I only just saw your post on one of the other pages to post my team when we were talking about midpricers or guns/rookies.

    Current team is:
    DEF: Shaw, Laird, Bartel, Dea, MBrown, Broad (McDonald-Tipu, Ruggles)
    MIDS: Fyfe, Danger, Ablett, Rocky, Liba, BCrouch, Mills, Petracca (Menadue, Gresham, Davis)
    RUCK: Martin, Gawn (Cox)
    FWD: Martin, Barlow, Hall, Wells, Kennedy, Kerridge (McCarthy, Grimley)

    This gives me 12-14 keepers, depending on whether Liba, BCrouch and Hall are keepers – at last 1 well – there is a chance all 3 will be.

    Still have $300k left over – thinking of downgrading Dea to a cheaper Def rookie who is named and upgrading either Crouch to Pendles, or Mills to Wines/Parker. Other option is to upgrade Gawn/Martin to Goldy which will leave me with $150-200k to upgrade Hall to someone like Montagna.

    Another option is to upgrade Dea to Houli if I can find an extra $30k, which I would get from a more expensive rookie.

    Too many decision – any thoughts welcome!

    • Derek says:

      Cozza, A very good team. I'm amazed you have cash left.

      It is tempting to trade crouch up to another premium, but I think there is good cash to be made from him.

      How will you get Goldy?

      • Cozza says:

        Thanks Derek. I'd be upgrading either Gawn or Martin to get to Goldy – have $299,500 left over, so Gawn to Goldy will leave me with $155k and Martin to Goldy will still leave me with $202k. At this stage I'm leaning towards Gawn as Goldy/Martin was my Plan A ruck combo.

  128. Thoughts on Rampe as a back line POD community?

  129. Shaq says:

    What's everyone thoughts on matt suckling? Could he be a potential smokey now that he'll get more game time at the dogs?

  130. Throtts says:

    Can always count on a bold team from Higgo. Defense may require firmer ground. Too much hope involved. May have to add a rook to your mids so you have the coin to make that less wafer-y.

    As always, I bow to your brilliance.

  131. Holty says:

    Who is more important to have in your team?
    Weitering or Mills?

    • PJ8 says:

      Mills, will score more consistantly.

      Weitering is only relevant due to the lack of rookies around this season. No one would pick him in the 3 years before this.

      • Derek says:

        I worry about Mills getting games

      • SCaddict says:

        Weitering may have the edge in JS but at the end of the day he's a rookie KPP in a poor team so I think folks need to temper their expectations a little. He just may not score as well as some seem to expect but he's a star of the future for sure.

    • Danners says:

      Mills by far

      • Holty says:

        cheers danners. im looking the same way but concerned with the defensive rookies. struggling to select some who i feel confident will play most of the season. Midfield on the other hand have plenty although probably wont have the scoring potential of Mills.

        • PJ8 says:

          Don't write off Weitering though Holty.

          If it helps i have both him and Mills. Might have to change up a bit to get them both in. I think a lot of teams back lines will struggle if they have any of Brown, Hartley, Collins, Broad starting on the ground. IMO only should have 2 of these and should be bench players.

  132. Carlos says:

    Anyone else remember the good ol' days of the set-and-forget Ruck combo Cox & Sandilands!? sigh – simpler times!

    • Holty says:

      it still is simple when you think about it. People just read to much into it. 3 of the top 6 rucks have proven to be durable. Problem is so many are looking how to squeeze those extra 10 points out of someone who simply isnt proven or have had injuries the previous few seasons.

  133. Heath Kingham says:

    team so far – 40k left
    D – shaw, johannisen, lonergan, d howe, dea, hartley, m adams, ATM
    M – Fyfe, danger, ablett, rocky, duncan, j kelly, liber, mills, menadue, g hewett, davis
    R – s martin, gawn, grimley
    F – barlow, greene, hall, wells, mccarthy, kerridge, b kennedy, petracca

    may change j kelly to j steele or a crouch, and r davis and g hewett will depend if elevated and or play

    • Holty says:

      kennedy is a lot of money sitting on the bench. a lot of midpricers as well. If they all pay off, great for you. But you only need half of them not to and you'll struggle to get to full premo by seasons end.

      • Heath Kingham says:

        yeah unfortunately i have no confidence in defence premos – so going mid there instead of GnR meant less spend around the ground

  134. Vindude says:

    Community, would really appreciate your help on this one.
    I'm toying between Shaw and Dea VS Johanneisen and Z Williams ?
    What do you'll think would be the way to go ?
    Thanks community!!

  135. oldmate65 says:

    Thoughts would be greatly appreciated! Thanks Community

    DEF: Shaw, Laird, KK, Weitering, Hartley, Collins (AMT, Ruggles)
    MID: Fyfe, Danger, Ablett, Rockliff, Wines, Libba, Mills, Petracca (Gresham, Mathieson, MacPherson)
    RUCK: Naitanui, Gawn (Cox)
    FWD:Martin, Barlow, Hall, Wells, Menadue, Kerridge (McCarthy, Grimley)

    Still got 138k left in the kitty

    • Keenbutclueless says:

      I don't think you need Grimley and Cox. Suggest move Grimley to R3. Move AMT to F8. This gives 255k for another defender. Maybe Dea, or try to find a little extra for Wlison. I think having 3 on field rookies in Defence is a risk. Plus your cover for them is two 102k rookies. If you take Dea, you would now have Collins as cover.

    • Tony says:

      Petracca on the ground gives you a donut for the first 3-4 weeks.

  136. Dice says:

    Thoughts on Dan Menzel and what he could avg?

  137. CapTnKaOs says:

    Not convinced on defence rookies this year, so I've beefed up my backline with premos. Of course, something has to give, and I've got a VERY thin forward line.
    Barlow, D.Menzel, Wells, Kennedy, McCarthy, Kerridge. (Petracca, Adams)
    I see a lot of upside potential in Menzel and Wells, with good cash building from McCarthy and Kerridge.
    Question is this. Am I taking on too much risk having Menzel, Wells and McCarty (with their injury histories) all in my forward line?
    Should I bite the bullet and free up some cash to upgrade either Menzel or Wells?

    • PJ8 says:

      Forward line way too light mate.
      If Menzal, Kennedy, McCarthy all flop which is a chance, who will be stuffed for the whole year.

    • Itchy balls says:

      Looks like you copied someone else fwd line that posted on here yesterday

  138. gator59 says:

    Libba at M5, Is this going to light in midfield

    • Itchy balls says:

      He's my M7

    • Derek James says:

      Not if youre running 3 big guns in the mids, a strong ruck combo and fairly strong across the other 2 lines. Shouldnt be an issue.

    • Cozza says:

      Depends who you have coming after him. I have Libba at M5 as well, but have Crouch and Mills afterwards, with another rookie on field. It is probably 1 mid lighter than most other teams that are posted, but I've spent a little more in other lines as well.

      I wouldn't say you are too light just because he is M5

  139. Blueth says:

    No one has mentioned him, possible because of the oversupply of mid-priced mids, but this guy is ready to pop….
    Brendon Ah Chee (334,100)

    • Dan says:

      Too risky for mine, but agreed. I'm a Port Adelaide man and Ah Cheers is going to be a major asset in the future.

      • Blueth says:

        Been watching him closely and i think that time is now, high risk=high reward…..or a deep chasm of failure

  140. Derek James says:

    Is Nic Nat over his injury concerns? Can he average over 100? What will his average be by seasons end? Do we pick him?

    • Jonathan Camac says:

      He has averaged over 90 every season for the last five years, two of those seasons above 100 (2012, 2015) He has played 20 games in every season except 2013, where he played 10 due to injury. I think he'll maintain average of 104. He's a bit cheaper than the highest end rucks, so I think he's worth the gamble.

  141. Zacleonard2 says:

    My team so far

    Back – R.laird, k.kolo, j.johanissen, t.sheridan, j.weitering, m.brown (m.hartley, k.collins)

    Mid- p.dangerfield, g. Ablett, t.rockliff, l.parker, p.cripps, m, crouch, t.liberatore, c.mills (j.gresham, b.keays, r.davis)

    Ruck- s.martin, m.gawn (m.cox)

    Fwd- m.barlow, a.hall, j.steele, d.wells, b.kennedy, s.kerridge ( c.mendue, c.petrecca)

    Not sure which crouch I should have brad looks the goods but don't know if he will play round 1 and not Sure about kk in the back was thinking about Gibson he is playing well and is consistent.

    Any other advice let me know

  142. Derek James says:

    Its hard to go too far away from what everyone else has unless you have nerves of steel and end up with something like Higgo. Im not keen to live on the edge like that. After a frustrating year last year my team has to be a solid one this year or i will defs lose it. So this is what i have come up with so far

    Def. Shaw, Laird, Johannisen, Weitering, Broad, Dea, Hartley, Ruggles
    Mid. Fyfe, Ablett, Selwood, Neale, Rockliff, Libba, Mills, Kennedy, Gore, Petracca, Davis
    Ruc. Goldstein, Dog Dog, Wyatt
    Fwd. Martin, Barlow, Johnson, Wells, McCarthy, Kerridge, Grimley, Tipungvgnvngcfhc

    Looks like plenty of teams but what can you do

  143. Youngy says:

    What are people's thoughts on Kade Simpson

    • SCaddict says:

      See him as an excellent reliable producer even in a poor team. A strong chance of making my final side Youngy.

      • Youngy says:

        With the defense this year I see him as a no brainer, he has been reliable for years, nothing outstanding but reliable.

        Not a big fan of the Laird, Johannisen or KK

  144. Jonathan Camac says:

    Mills or Oliver? Tossing up between the two.

  145. Matt says:

    OPTION 1:
    Shaw, Laird, Gibbo, Weitering, Dea, Hartley (Brown, Ruggles)
    Danger, Ablett, Priddis, Rocky, Parker, Libba, Mills, B.Kennedy (Davis, Keays, Petracca)
    Goldstein, Gawn (Cox)
    Barlow, The Devon, Hall, Wells, Milera, Kerridge (Menedue, Mcdonald-A)

    OR… (changes are in brackets)

    OPTION 2:
    Shaw, Gibbo, (Touhy), Weitering, Dea, Hartley (Brown, Ruggles)
    Danger, Ablett, Priddis, Rocky, Parker, Libba, Mills, (Davis) (Gore, Keays, Petracca)
    Goldstein, Gawn (Cox)
    (Dusty), Barlow, The Devon, Hall, Milera, Kerridge (Menedue, McDonald-A)

    Opinions would be much appreciated!

  146. Matt says:

    Bench players also in brackets.. my bad.

  147. Mcveigh listed as 2-3 weeks off. Mills ain't going to be 400k by then…

  148. Jonathan Camac says:

    Thoughts on Mitch Duncan?

    • Paul says:

      I had him in until Dangerfield went beserk in the NAB Challenge. I think he's severely underpriced atm, but I just couldn't fit him in with the other players I thought were "must haves".

  149. Foti186 says:

    Hi guys. New to this community just joined tonight. this is my 2nd year doing supercoach and just wanted some criticism on my team lol. Thanks
    DEF: Shaw,Johannisen,sheriden,Weitering,Dea,Hartley (Broad, ?)
    MID: Ablett,Dangerfield,Pendleybury,Rockliff,Wines,Libba,Mills,Kennedy (Kerridge,Keays, ?)
    RUCK: Martin,Jacobs (Grimley)
    FWD: Barlow,Greene,Hall,Wells,Mccarthy,Brown, (AMT, ?)
    the ? is I don't know who to pick yet. Waiting to see who gets named.
    Thanks guys.

  150. Sana says:

    Lids, B Crouch, Weitering, Ruggles
    OR
    Laird, T Greene, K Collins, McCarthy

  151. Gilly says:

    I'm going goldstein with grimley as an R2 and hoping he can average around the 50 mark for the first 7 or so rounds which hopefully brings him to 300k,then planning to trade him up to a Martin or Gawn. Is this a good idea?

    • Ethan017 says:

      No it's really not Gilly a 50 point average won't get him to 300k by round 7 and you'll find it extremely difficult to find cash for Martin or Gawn