PODCAST: Line by line review

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Supercoach 2014 podcast

We pick every line apart with a fine tooth brush this week.

We go through each line and look at who would make up the All Australian Supercoach team of the season so far. These blokes have earnt their stripes so far.. but the question for all of us is.. who will perform best for the rest of the season?

Join Peter “Higgo” Higginbotham, The Crouching One and I as we plot a course for fantasy footy dominance for the rest of this season.

Let’s all come home with a dripping wet sail community

 

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  1. scano says:

    Malceski or Simpson?

    • Ryan says:

      Malceski's looking pretty good atm mate.

    • SCaddict says:

      Both superb options. Kade will leak more cash so worth waiting a week or two there if you can to pick him up as cheap as possible.

      Will be selecting Mal myself. Had an insane past 9 games for a defender and the Swans are flying with a bunch of spud opponents coming up and a friendly SC finals draw to boot.

      • scano says:

        yeah I like Malceski aswell but I already have JPK, McVeigh, Parker and Franklin

        • Ryan says:

          Don't know if that matters to much post-byes mate, and the swans aren't gonna lose too many either.

        • SCaddict says:

          I have all those guys too Scano. The Swans are stacked like an All Star team and most weeks 6-10 players are tonning up.

          So wouldn't let that put you off picking Malceski though nothing wrong going Kade if this really bothers you. You really want to pick the best players regardless of who they player especially now that the byes are done with.

          Will be interesting to see how the Hanners and Tippo injuries changes things, if any, though the Swans do get easier opponents over the next 3. Also have Saints, Dogs and Tiges in the last 3 weeks of the season.

    • MightyDonsFC says:

      Malceski

    • Garglesnarf FC says:

      Like everyone else Malceski. Playing a key role in a winning team, as opposed to a key role in a team that is a little Jeckyll and Hyde.

      Plus the Blues run home is as bad as Freo is good, so I think the Blues share of points will be smaller than it has been.

  2. Dylan says:

    Fellas no trades this week…not worth it mid season wasting your trades on mid pricers

    • SCaddict says:

      Yep the lack of trades are beginning to really bite but will be hard for many coaches to pass up on the value of bringing in Stef Martin as discussed by the Inner Sanctum tonight.

  3. scano says:

    best midfielder to bring in? It is someone like Kennedy or Liber? Or pick up someone like Fyfe and save some cash?

    • SCaddict says:

      If you don't have Rocky then if you wait a few weeks he could be sub $550K with a monster BE of 201!

      JPK and Libba are awesome too but you will be paying top dollar there for the foreseeable future.

    • Luck of the Irish says:

      It's an interesting one Scano, this year we have a plethora of midfielders averaging over 110, so as long as you pick one of them then you can't go wrong. However, for absolute best at given price I would have to say Fyfe, but he WILL get rested, other options leave Rory Sloane who is a fantastic pick, Stevie J is probably the biggest bargin, and Nick Dal Santo has come down nicely in price and we need no reminder of how good his finals run are. Although, would I be right in saying that you are looking for your final mid upgrade? If so, then I truly believe JPK is your man, and SCaddict's suggestion of Rockliff is superb. Because of that, then I believe pick one of these two players as they will, in my opinion, provide you with the best output out of all of your options.

    • The Garbo says:

      All comes down to how many other spots you need to fill. Fyfe is at a good price, But if you dont need to fill any other spots there are numerous good players to grab JPK would be my number 1 pick but there all that good its hard to pick one or two specific players.

  4. Jonts says:

    Don't get sucked into Miles and Martin community… bringing them in will mean you most likely have to keep them unless lots of trades

    • BCHawks says:

      got Martin in last week and am now going to have him as my fwd/ruck cover with B.Brown the swing man.

    • SCaddict says:

      Reckon Stef Martin could be the most traded in player this week. But yes he may not be a keeper so would keep a spare trade up your sleeve if you are bringing him in, maybe for a sideways to Dixon at some point.

    • The Garbo says:

      Martin has at least another 5 good rounds ahead of him to make a bit of cash. And should still play out the rest of the season even with looey playing like west did.(as long as his hammys hold up)
      I know im looking at using Martin as my last spot in the fwd line (use as cover for sandi if needed) until later in the season when im ready to upgrade fully. Better than playing Ambrose/Shenton

  5. Jimbo says:

    Hey community is it worth side trading Adcock? 50k in the bank doesn't allow me to get much so Mackie would be best option. Worth it?

  6. john says:

    thoughts on trades this week?
    brought martin in last week and have thurlow on bench so:
    derickx to ceglar (hoping hell gets games sometime)
    higgins to mid via gray swing.
    who to get? can get anyone under 660k.
    mid as it stands: ablett, pendles, libba, selwood, sloane, beams and kane mitchell.

    • scano says:

      why do you want to sideway trade Derickx to Ceglar?

    • Ryan says:

      Howdy John
      If ceglar gets game time, not a bad trade, derickx will slow down or get dropped when pike comes back.
      Kennedy for me, consistently high scorer, not in a huge percentage of teams so another tick.

      • john says:

        this is to generate cash because i have mcevoy sitting on the bench ready to come and play for the hawks.

  7. Tom says:

    Herald sun made me poo my pants that Selwood was out so had to trade in Mcgovern to get Taylor as cover. That worked out pretty well with 146 and 101 from rookies!!!!!!!!!

  8. BCHawks says:

    Love the podcast fellas. I am incredibly happy with my team averaging 2454 since the byes.

  9. Ryan says:

    Hey community, hope you all had a successful supercoach round, have a bit of a conundrum. Have Ambrose and Cameron as bench cover in the forward line, I'm happy with that. However I have Fasolo as my F6, want to upgrade him before his price plummets. Therefore trading him will give me 411k to bring in a player for any line, apart from the rucks. Did a bit of research and came up with Wingard.
    Seems a fairly obvious trade however, I've traded my ass off all season, the above trade will leave me with just 3 trades :( is the above trade worth doing, or as was the case this round, should I hold my trades and rely on Ambrose getting a respectable score? Cheers community

  10. Cuz says:

    Wingard or Rioli?

    • jockreynolds says:

      Wingard I reckon Cuz – Rioli just not reliable enough

    • oliverfisher says:

      Wingard, i have rioli and he is just too inconsistent for my liking

    • SCaddict says:

      Think we'd all like to have Cyril in our sides…if it were not for those lacky bands he calls hamstrings!

      He's burnt untold numbers of coaches season after season as we've heard those all too familiar "twangs". Has only played 20 games once in his career so nuff said.

      So do yourself a favour and don't become another statistic.:)

  11. MightyDonsFC says:

    Just the one trade for me this round
    K.Mitchell>L.Montagna

    • scano says:

      veryyy riskky
      hope montagna picks up his form for you

      • MightyDonsFC says:

        Proven premium and a POD in my leagues, I'm confident he'll average 100+ for the rest of the season. Hopefully coming out of his poor form and can give me some 140's to work with!

        • The Filth says:

          Playing with an injury is the rumour…

          • mungos men says:

            Playing with injury and in sub par team, points have dipped with not having goddard and NDS in the team taking the major tag, likely will not average 110 points for remainder of the season… which I hate as he is in my team! maybe brad ebert is worth a look…

  12. dean says:

    Dalhaus or zorko?

    • Ryan says:

      Zorko mate

    • MightyDonsFC says:

      Dahlhaus

      • dean says:

        Actually might take stephen martin, to free up cash, and wait on who looks good a bit later on

    • throttlefinger says:

      Between the two, Zorko seems to be picking up steam. Don't know if Daulhaus will be putting out 120+ again. Can see Zorko doing it again.

      Have both but have been more impressed with Zorko's play of late. If you have cash, get Parker. Will Hanno out, he should get more mid time (=bigger scores)

  13. Marcus J says:

    Got rid of langford and brought in brodie smith.

    picking up swanny hasn'y really been that grade of a trade but gonna have to stick it out with him

    glad i picked up goddard a few weeks ago.

    • The Mullet says:

      I've had Swanny most of the season. He has been a bit dissapointing so far, but I'm confident he will pick up as we get closer to finals. He is a bit like Steve Johnson. Its a roller coaster ride. Just hang tight.

  14. Mr chan says:

    Hurn or Brodie smith?? Leaning towards hurn hopefully not the burnman

  15. TOTW R12 says:

    Really tight with trades atm! Too late to bring in McLovin (for Shenton)?

    • SCaddict says:

      Yeah you really need to get these guys when they are on the bubble or it's wiser to just move on especially with the amount of trades most of us have left.

      I would probably hang on to Shenton as bench cover for the rest of the season anyway as decent playing rookies are few and far between now.

      As the guys said in the poddie Honeychurch may be just around the corner. I have my fingers crossed at least. He would actually make a sweet swing set with Shenton as Higgo mentioned.

      • Michael says:

        Thanks SCaddict, already have swing set with Taylor which helped this week – I had O'Brien on field and just happened to hear he was sub about 2mins before the match, so swung Taylor into mids & put him on field, Shenton on fwd bench with Ambrose on field. Got me an extra 70 odd points!

    • oliverfisher says:

      probably hold, though i do think he will play out the rest of the season. Doubt he will keep producing these kind of scores

  16. Dave Ruddick says:

    Thanks again for a great podcast fellas. Congratulations Crouching One on your brilliant results. I'm so so tempted to get Stefan Martin this week but I have decided to pass on him and hibernate my team for the next 3 weeks come what may. I am ranked 1072..I am doing well in all 5 leagues, in the top 8 in all of them and top 4 in 3 of them. My team is just short of premium, plenty of trades up my sleeve, so time to put the feet up and let my opponents burn trades trying to catch me. Anyone else contemplating a "trading hiatus"?

    • Wattsieesq says:

      I am not trading this week. I'll let my rooks fatten and bring in Steven Johnson in a couple of weeks. Gray a week or so after him and I'll be done.

    • Morse says:

      I agree Davo, have 12 trades left myself with only 2 more premos to fill but getting 70's and 80's out of my F6 and D6 and one of those trades was used on Watson's bung hip….

      I'll hold for a few weeks as I am 1st in 3 of 4 leagues and 2nd in the other.

      So plan will be to do as Crouching one does, sit low for few weeks and then pounce with high jump fly kick on my opponents BANG BANG….

  17. Jimmy says:

    Thoughts on T.Derickx to S.Martin
    then B.Hartung to A.Miles

    • SCaddict says:

      Like the first trade better than the second but reckon you would get more value with Martin as an F6/F7 than as an R3, though that could work too I suppose.

      Then you could cash out Derickx (assuming he's your R3) for a cheap ruck DPP to complete a swing set, if you don't already have one. May cost an extra trade potentially but that would be the optimal set-up for mine.

      The Miles trade looks too risky at this stage of the season despite his solid numbers. Griffiths, McDonut and Lloyd have all been tried and then dropped as Dimma continues to search for answers. The Tiges are a team in flux and who knows what the next changes will be.

      Think you are better off waiting for Honeychurch or Morabito to get their opportunities.

  18. Mathew says:

    Hi jock and community
    Im in a bit of a situation im looking at my forwards and looking at bringing in either Gray or Harvey
    The cons im thinking about each is gray having freo at the time of our grand final could be a bad thing when i need him most
    And if boomer will keep up this form all year
    If people could let me know what they think and opinions would be great :) thanks and good luck

  19. oliverfisher says:

    146K and 9 trades left, should i hold my trades for this week or trade out Jaensch. Was planning on trading down Derickx at some point and then upgrading Langdon to Ablett but wasn't sure when would be the best time to do this, but with 3 easy matches coming up in my league i might just hold tight.

    • The Garbo says:

      Hold Jaensch for now.

    • Luck of the Irish says:

      I feel you can hold Jaensch for longer than you think, remember his 38 drops out this week and so his breakeven will plummet. Also, there is no reason to suggest he can't average those numbers again like he was the start of the season, yes the opposition has found him out but should come back strong. Remember, only 3 games ago he scored 128 and people were bringing him in, so give him another chance I reckon.

    • SCaddict says:

      Yeah if I can hold Cotch for the past 13 rounds ((and goodness knows why I have!) then you can save a trade and hold Jaensch at least whilst you have this easy run.

      He's a better player than he's been showing lately and worth another few weeks I'd say. if you can get through those 3 weeks with no significant injuries then maybe you can look at doing something, assuming you still want to get rid of him at that point.

      But he may surprise you with one or two decent scores before then.

    • The Garbo says:

      Also looking to grab Ablett is a great idea. The best time to do it was way back preseason

  20. The Garbo says:

    11 trades. $9k bank.

    Tempted to go Shenton and MaCrae to Fyfe and Martin. Because Martin on the bubble and doesnt look outve his depth against good rucks AND Fyfe is most likely at his cheapest he'll be at. Then next week or the following grab Steve Johnson by painting the fence. and then not trade to fill my final fwd spot until Leuenberger returns

    Leaving me with:

    Mid: Ablett, Pendles, Libba, Goddard, Beams, Polec, Jelwood, Fyfe (Crouch Taylor)
    Fwd: Danger, Dustin, Zorko, Dahlhaus, LeCras, StefanMartin (Ambrose, Lloyd)

    Alternative I'm thinking is to trade Crouch to Martin and use Martin as my F6 and ruck cover if needed. And hold my trades till another premo drops in value

    • The Garbo says:

      One other thought is Polec and Crouch to Fyfe and morabitio or Honeychurch. Then next week MaCrae straight swap for Johnson

      • Peter says:

        What is wrong with macrae? He has been very good!

        • The Garbo says:

          I've been stoked with MaCrae all season. But I feel that I need my mids filled with players who have a higher SC ceiling. Especially come finals.

  21. Matt says:

    Heyyy communtiy,

    Only trade I'm looking at for the moment is to get rid of Shaun Higgins. He's served me very well and I have no regrets keeping him this long. My only problem is that I've got just 9k in the bank, so to get a decent FWD upgrade I'd have to downgrade someone like Litherland, Lewis Taylor, Shenton, Acres, Ambrose or LLoyd, who all have room to grow.

    What are everyone's thoughts? Should I wait a week or two until Taylor/Shenton/Ambrose peak in price, or prioritise upgrading Higgins as soon as possible?

    Cheers

    • Lukey says:

      Mate I reckon Higgins to Wingard might be your best option!!!!

    • SCaddict says:

      You could also look at going from Higgins down to Stef Martin which would make you a fair chunk of change for upgrades elsewhere and potentially grant you ruck cover if you can create a swing set.

      Anyway that's what I did last week and feeling pretty good about the move right now.

      Would hang on to as many of those rookies as you can until solid downgrade options present. I realise that is not always achievable in order to realise full premium status but you really want to avoid giving up too much decent bench cover where possible.

    • wes says:

      Hi Matt
      I have regrets keeping him this long :-)
      I trade him out for martin too… just as scaddict said below. then again he would be feeling good about it this week.
      for me though, bit of extra cash in the bank, plus his extra points scoring ability this week makes him a reasonable option. Higgins just not scoring as he was and is costing us $$ and therefore options.

  22. crabb says:

    I've had Malceski from the start (fortunately). Wanted a Mr consistent and thought Enright was a bit long in the tooth.

  23. TOTW R13 says:

    Hi Community, another edition of TOTW. Some interesting new entries this week – McLovin in particular, who would've picked that? – along with Ebert, Harwood & Motlop.

    DEF: Hurn, Bartel, Dunn, Hanley, Smith, Mackie (Harwood, Heater)
    MID: Floggard, Zaharakis, Ebert, Stokes, Prestia, Libba, Pendles, Duncan (Shiel, Gibbs)
    RUC: Lobbe, NicNat (Sauce, Mummy)
    FWD: Buddy, McLovin, Boomer, Tomahawk, JJK, Motlop (Schulz, Cloke)

    Dunn is the one to watch here, 3 weeks running in the TOTW now, he's on fire! GAJ a notable omission, although I expect him back in next week.

    Also some changes in the TOTY from last week, out goes Beams, Jobe & Cox as they didn't play as well as Hibberd for a dud round. In comes the aforementioned Dunn, as well as Prestia, Nicky Dal & Goldy in the rucks. Again, these are the guys that are putting up the most recent higher scores in comparison to the players around them in the rankings, so a good guide as to who to jump on right now!

    TOTY R13

    DEF: Bartel, McVeigh, Simpson, Swallow, Malceski, Smith (Dunn, Burgoyne)
    MID: GAJ, Pendles, JPK, Libba, Jelwood, Ward, Sloane, Prestia (Murph, Nicky Dal)
    RUC: Sandy, Sauce (Minson, Goldy)
    FWD: Boomer, Gray, Danger, Dusty, Parker, Zorko (Pav, Breust)

    Always interested in your thoughts community!

  24. Mike says:

    Community, On S Martin I'd check on Brown, if he retires (and he should after getting KOed again) then Martin may well go forward and split ruck time with Smith. While this could affect scoring it would prob see him stay in team when Leuwenwhatever comes back.
    Now if all that happens will that put me off? Prob not, but if you are thinking of him as r2 then it might make you pause.

    • The Garbo says:

      Martin should be pretty safe to play out the season if his hammys hold up. West was sharing the ruck load with looey so martin should have the same opportunity. But just dont expect Martin to score well like he has upon looeys return

  25. Matt says:

    Hi Jock,

    I’m not normally a big commenter on the site, but I’ve been a big fan of this site for almost 2 years now and im just so amazed at how much the site has grown in community members but also how the site has grown in quality! The podcasts are what I look forward to each week, they aren’t just full of great information but the top class comedy you guys have would be enough to keep me listening. In my opinion this was your best podcast yet and it’s awesome to see that it keeps getting better! Thanks for adding to my supercoach wisdom each week, I’m now ranked in the top 4000 which is my best ranking yet and it’s all thanks to you guys. I’ll definitely be signing up for the new podcast to keep the site going. Thanks for everything Jock, Crouching, Higgo and everyone else on the site!

    Keep up the good work!

    • jockreynolds says:

      Thank you very much Matt for your kind comment mate. Absolutely rapt to hear that you're enjoying the community, the podcasts and also pumped that you're rising in the rankings.
      Jock

  26. Steve says:

    Hi community, sorry for being behind the times but what is happening with Fasolo?
    Is he injured or out of favour/form?

  27. big aggots says:

    Anyone interested in Steven Motlop at 346K as a possible F6?
    Finding some fitness and form after 5 games back. Had 112 on Sunday and stormed home last year averaging 108 in last 8 games including 117 in 2nd semi, 98 in prelim. I'm looking at maybe Shenton to him.

  28. Luck of the Irish says:

    Jock, Crouching, Higgo,Wayno, Mad Mick, Barron Von Crow, and Crimmo you guys are unbelievable at what you do. Seriously, the amount of dedication and hard work is second to none and this is truly the best community on any site on the web, let alone Supercoach. Thanks isn't a strong enough word.

    On to supercoach. What are your guys opinions on Chad Wingard? He's is undoubtedly a freak but due to the lack of midfield time I feel as though he has to do a lot in the forward line to score a 90+ score. I remember games of which he kicked 5 but couldn't even crack the ton and so it worries me a little if he doesn't have such an influential game he may only score a 70 or low 80, even though his efforts and impact may try to suggest a bigger number. However, it is undeniable that he is serious value at 390k but what I'm asking is if he really is a suitable last forward at a time when we want the absolute best (ie Robbie Gray, Parker, Danger, Boomer etc), especially for someone who is challenging rank and a Supercoach Grand Final?. Essentially, even at given price, would you pick him over Robbie Grey? seeing as Robbie Grey could very well continue to average 110, with Wingard coming in with a very solid 90-95.

    Thanks again fellas ;)

    • Azmataz says:

      I would pick Gray if you can afford it. He is a machine this year.

    • Derek says:

      if you believe you will be in your league finals, I would now turn attention to players who have an easy run for the finals

      Port play Swans in first week of SC finals and Freo in the SC GF.

    • RoganJ says:

      I've had Wingard all year and don't rate him. Wish I had avoided him in the beginning and surprised that he is getting that much attention. Maybe he's burnt me too many times this year (10 points in 3/4 before being knocked out!) but when I look through the forward options there aren't too many there. Gray for mine, then boomer. Surely the old man can't keep pumping out the scores can he?

    • Luck of the Irish says:

      Alright, love the discussion fellas. I guess we can conclude that Gray/Boomer is the man you want, with Wingard maybe the man you need if strapped for cash. Will most likely grab Gray, but Chad does still represent some serious value. Cheers guys.

    • James Sykes says:

      Hey Irish.

      If money allows, at this time of year you always go for the top 3 option on a given line whenever possible……we have seen enough form guide to know that they are rolled gold.

      You can almost bet that the person you play in the finals will have Robbie Gray and you dont want to be putting up Chad against that. Robbie must have covered Chad 9 out of 10 times this year?

      • Luck of the Irish says:

        Thanks James, yeah I'm definitely going to grab Gray over Wingard by changing my trading plan a little, so will most likely grab him in 1 or 2 weeks time. Whilst Wingard is definitely as very suitable F6, trading in Gray can mean that he becomes your F1-F3, and is almost like adding another midfielder to your line up. And who doesn't love that Midfield output ;)

  29. Azmataz says:

    Great podcast as usual boys. I only have 10 trades left (8 after this week), but will be only 1 premium away from being full premo and am ranked 483.

    Looking for a cheap POD for my M8 this week, and am thinking of trading Langdon to Andrew Swallow. I also like the Stefan Martin idea of Higgo's so might trade Ambrose to Martin but not sure yet. Also considering Montagna. I've put a line through Griffen, Steven and Johnson.

    I will definitely chip in for the special podcast guys. Can't wait!

  30. Jackson says:

    Thinking going Higgins to S: Martin
    and upgrading KK to Premo

  31. throttlefinger says:

    OK. Bit of a mess so bare with me community.

    Not a lot of trades left yet need to make a move to get in finals contention. Can either strengthen a weak bench or complete my premium midfield.

    Weak bench to strong: Hurn/Malceski for Clay Cameron (move Langdon to bench)
    or
    Complete prem mid: Boomer/Parker for Billings (keep DPP)

    Thoughts.

    • Garglesnarf FC says:

      Option 2.

    • Wattsieesq says:

      Hey TF. I'm looking to complete my team before getting in bench cover. My bench is shot, but there is no point having 400k on there if other lines are in trouble and not giving you the points you need.

      • Derek says:

        My bench is a disaster (Aylett, georgio, Hartung, Acres, Currie, Archie, JKH, Ambrose). As a result had two donuts this week with Beams & StevieJ late outs. Hope this won't happen again.

      • throttlefinger says:

        Very true, Wattsie. Very true. Thanks, my man.

    • The Garbo says:

      If i remember correctly your trades have dwindled right down to single digits?
      So definitely complete the mid. Theyre the players that can pump huge scores and get the upset wins you need to make finals it sounds like. Bench coverage in a luxury you cant afford atm.

      [Assuming your SC team is called "throttlefinger"]

      You still have Billings Shenton Langdon on the field among other issues.
      So I would avoid any player over 550k and look for value to get the most outve your remaining trades. (like: Both Swallows, Nath Jones, Johnson, Ebert, HEPPELL, Parker, Dahlhaus etc)
      Also maybe you should cash in on one of your rucks soon to fill the coffers (sandi BE96, mummy BE91, nicnat [BE25])

      • throttlefinger says:

        Hey Garbo. Yes, that's my (de)delightful team.

        Billings needs to go. And I think they popular call is to complete the mids makes the most sense. Shenton and Langdon I can ride a bit longer. Or they may be my Terliches this year.

        Really appreciate your and everyone's insights. Is a lesson that I should've bounced more ideas off the community than acted alone. Lots of stupid, rash trades this season.

        Thanks again, Garbo. You're the tits!

    • James Sykes says:

      go for the strength on field matty……I'm sure there will be no unexpected late outs that could derail our plans.

      Go Boomer mate.

      • throttlefinger says:

        Definitely leaning Boomer. Even in loss looked stellar. With the Roos easy run and tenuous place in the finals hunt I’ll expect his scores to continue to be 110+.

        Thanks Jimbo!

  32. Dave says:

    Discomfibulated.. Best

  33. Itchy Nuts Pieman says:

    Braught in Parker & Hibberd this week. Both had there worst scores of the season. THE PAIN!

    • The Mullet says:

      I spent a heap of $$ on Rockliff and made him captain….grrrrr

      • Garglesnarf FC says:

        I feel your pain. I brought in Ward and was going to put the C on him, but went with original plan and put it on Rocky. Fortunately it didn’t cost me any wins.

        Wards 122 and McGoverns 146 did make me smile however!

        • Itchy Nuts Pieman says:

          McLovin's 146 Majestic. Wish I'd got on that train. In my main league I got knocked over by 15 points. Opponent traded Watson to Goddard last minute. Shattered. Now 8th in the league & ranked 904. Tough League!

  34. Marcus says:

    hey community,

    I have a bit of a dilemma. I have held off Ablett all season waiting for him to be at his cheapest price and the time to pounce seems to have finally come. however with his tough run home… i am now considering not bringing him in and instead looking to boost my forwards to super premium. I'm running around with reiwoldt and walker on my field atm. Basically my question is, is it ludicrous to not have Gaz in as he is too good not to have? With the money saved on Ablett (i have 280 k in the bank) i could look to upgrade fasolo, reiwoldt, ambrose and cameron.

    thanks guys, would love your wisdom.

    • Kev says:

      He's a bit immune to the "tough run home" reasoning, Marcus. He's the best player in the comp/SC for a reason. Come finals time, if your opponent has him cap and you don't have him at all, it could make all the difference

    • john snow says:

      you are never better off without gary

    • The Garbo says:

      Cant believe you've waited this long to get Gary just to save 20k… You must have a big pair!
      Also Gary has had a tough run every game with gold coast since the 2011 season. Yet he still averaged around the 130 mark each season. He is THE best supercoach player in the comp. Silly not to have him.

      Another way to look at it is, any player you upgrade to gaz (bar pendles or jpk) you will essentially gain a minimum of 20pts on your avg whilst giving you a perma cpt. And chances are you wont trading a rockliff type player for him. So im guessing you will gain more along the lines of +40 pts on your avg

      • Marcus says:

        thanks lads, needed someone to tell me i was crazy. would have upgraded mitchell to a JPK but ill stick with the plan to go with gary.

        • Ryan says:

          My question would be who are you trading out for Ablett? As said above it could be a player averaging 40odd points less a match, however if you don't bring Ablett in and focus on upgrading the forward line, and you upgrade fasolo(who isn't even playing) to a gray or Harvey, you're essentially making a larger points gain, than upgrading to Ablett. Call me crazy but I would look to upgrade forward line first, with Charlie Cameron not playing and Ambrose scoring 4 points in the entire second half shows how dangerous it could be leaving your forward line as is. Bring in a Harvey or gray gives a possible 70-80 point round gain if Fasolo is out and Ambrose plays poorly.

    • James Sykes says:

      wisdom…..next year make sure you start with Gary……and probably pendles while you are at it. clearly the best two supercoach players going around.

  35. Big Ben says:

    Dear Jock, Higgo and Crouching

    Your beautiful insight into the Supercoach world has guided me from 45,000th last season to 7440th so far this season as I continue my rise into the top 5000.

    Thanks for the help

    • Itchy Nuts Pieman says:

      Great work Big Ben. The boy's have taken me from a spud to top 1000. Good luk in your rise to Glory!

  36. Fitzy says:

    who should I trade for Martin, Derrickx or Shenton? Leaning towards Shenton, but he still has some money to make. Thoughts?

    • wes says:

      In a word – Shenton
      In more than 1 word… People will comment about Derickx job security. So perhaps that is an issue. til that is confirmed, I'd prefer Shenton out of my team to Derickx

      • Garglesnarf FC says:

        Fitzy I have a similar issue. Like Wes I reckon Shenton is the better trade out option, although in my case Ambrose might be even better.

        • Fitzy says:

          Thanks guys

          • glen20 says:

            i'd still be careful bringing shenton in now. i reckon his JS could be just about shot with gwilt coming through the magoos on the weekend and picking up 22 touches and featuring amongst the best. shenton plays an identical role to gwilt.
            if you've already got him, could be time to cull the cow!

            • SCaddict says:

              I think everyone is talking about whether to trade Shenton out. It's certainly too late to bring him in now.

  37. Liam says:

    Love your podcast boys. Due to the modern age of smart phones etc am finding the podcast MOST enjoyable when sitting on the throne!!!! Am i alone here guys or is it a trend to lengthen your time on the thunderbox to coincide with the podcast timing? lol

  38. Kev says:

    Hey community, absolute ripper of a head to head match this week. Thought I'd get home easily against 12th on the ladder (I'm =1 on %) but some average returns from Jaensch, KK, Hibbo, Rocky (C), Cotch, Breust, and LeCras kept it close right till the end. Won by 50 points. Thank you Libba!

    This week I'm trading Derickx, who has just about peaked in price IMO, down to a cheapy (maybe Lobb or Archie) and then trading KK, who has a huge b.e this week, up to McVeigh

    • john snow says:

      Yeh I'm thinking Derrickx to Archie Smith. If Martin goes down he would be next in line I'm thinking.

      Are there any other bargain basement rucks that could potentially get game time. Lowden maybe but he would need Hale and Mcevoy to be out.

  39. Derek says:

    I still need to upgrade my Defence, have 13 trades left but only $24k left in bank.

    Bartel, Birchell, Suckling, Lumumba, Hanley, Enright (Aylett & Bews)

    I will get McVeigh in this week (not sure who should go first).

    I'm not going to get either Swallow of Simpson in. They both have reached their peak and are overpriced.

    Who should make way for McVeigh?

    I would like to get Sam Mitchell, but would have to wait another 4 weeks for him to play and see his price drop.

    Who is the other Must have in defence?

    I am thinking Hodge, Hurn or Shaw. But are they much better than who I have?

    • The Garbo says:

      Swallow is under 500k and will take another price drop and 8 tons is hard to ignore.

      And bar McV the other three your looking at arent really too much better then what you have to justify a trade

  40. john snow says:

    Malceski and Mcveigh

  41. The Garbo says:

    Morabito or Honeychurch? Whose likely to play soon and get more games

    • Black Mumba says:

      Check our crystal ball shall we….?wtf

    • Matt says:

      Your guess is as good as any…. no one knows

    • Mathew says:

      Think both likely to play soon but my guess would be honeychurch will have better job security
      I think morabito will come in when players are being rested and he will be the back up but it really depends where they land on the lader come our finals time if they really will rest players.
      This is just my opinion, he might come in this week and play all season but I have and i think alot of others have been waiting for honeychurch all season he produced the goods this week in the 2s and i think he will come in and fit in very nicely
      Good luck with whichever way you go

    • Itchy Nuts Pieman says:

      If Morobito comes in he has massive vest risk attached to his name. Same could be said for Honeychurch. Although Gia takes it most weeks. I'd say wait & see with both. Wouldn't bring them in yet unless it's a non playing player strategy.

      • The Garbo says:

        Cheers! Was just searching around for extra cash to grab a Fyfe type player. And only real player on the bubble is Miles – But a bit to pricey for my liking.
        So am tempted to take a punt on honey or morabito

    • RoganJ says:

      Honeychurch for his swing option?

    • The Garbo says:

      Honeychurchs debut could be delayed with him heading to the tribunal for a front on bump in the vfl after he had a nice 5 goal haul

  42. Mathew says:

    Hi community
    I really need to start working on my forward line
    Dangerfield, Parker, Zorko, Breust, Taylor, McGovern, Ambrose, Lloyd
    All my rookies are still making cash though
    This week im looking at moving breust on. He has been leaving big stains in my supercoach pants for the last few weeks and he just doesnt look like getting near the ball. His projected to go down another 23k this week alone
    Im looking at bringing in the best of the best so who do people think that would be?
    Im looking at gray and boomer
    Gray will have freo grand final of our SC which could be a downside and boomers run home is amazing, playing GWS Dogs Crows (in tassie) and Melbourne to finish. Yet can he keep this amazing form up all year
    If people could give me there thoughts even if its another player to look at
    Thanks community

    • Derek says:

      Martin is in the best 6 forwards

      • Mathew says:

        Thanks derek I have been looking a little at him aswell. Im in a situation where I can choose whoever i want (most people wish for) yet struggling with it lol. Sitting first at the moment so hoping to pick up the best forward i can to lock in

  43. Jack says:

    Gday Community Thought i'd share my Team and get some of your Wisdom/Feedback
    My Current Team Currently Stands:

    Mcveigh, Walker, Hibbard, Suckling, Langdon, Koldasknji ( Bews, Aylett)
    Ablett, Kenedy, Pendlebury, Beams, Ffye, Boyd, Selwood, K: Mitchell, ( L.Taylor, Acres)
    Gray, Danger, Parker, Roughead, Higgins, Martin ( Shenton, Cameron)
    Sandilands Jacobs ( Currie, Thurlow)

    Got 10 Trades left, $45,100k left!
    Would love to hear your feedback!!

    • Itchy Nuts Pieman says:

      Thumper Kolodjashij is leeking cash. Time to go. Your a bit light for juciy cash cow downgrades. Taylor & Shenton still have money to be made. Your going to have to make a tough call. Personally I'd turn Shenton into Stefan Martin & use your 110K into turning Thumper into best available defender.

    • SCaddict says:

      INP is on the money here though looks like you already have Stef unless that's Dusty in your lineup there.

      KK's time is up as he's leaking cash now and the Suns have a killer draw over the next 3. I'm upgrading him to Malceski this week myself.

      He's been a fantastic cash cow but like Higgins his time to face the chopping block has arrived.

  44. wes says:

    Hi there community of legends!!!!
    After thoughts please on who has the best run over the next 4-5 rds – i.e. which club.
    Freo's seems reasonable. Any other thoughts there?
    cheers

  45. The Mullet says:

    There is a bit of action with people trading Stefan Martin into their forward bench to use as a ruck/fwd swing backup. I'm thinking of taking a different tack, and I'm interested to see what others think.
    My current rucks are Sandi, Minson (Currie, King). To set up Martin as a swingman I would need to use 2 trades. One to bring in Martin and a second to replace Currie or King with a DPP.

    Instead, I'm thinking of trading out Sandi and bringing in Goldstein. I reckon Sandi has pretty much topped out at 578k. Goldy is 500k, has a BE of 30 and is only in about 6% of teams. He doesn't have an easy run in the first SC finals, but has Melbourne in the SC GF. Importantly, his scores are improving. If he gets injured, there is a chance (probably small) the roos might bring in Currie to replace him.

    That way I only use one trade and pocket 78k to use elsewhere. But I'm saying goodbye to Sandi. Using two trades to get martin onto a rotating bench position is a pretty expensive insurance policy. Any thoughts?

    • Itchy Nuts Pieman says:

      Stefan Martin has presented us with a nice headache we didn't see coming a few weeks ago. Personally not a fan of Sandi to Goldy. Sideways more than anything. Having said that Sandi will probably get rested, which will mean to avoid a donut you either trade him or a bench player for a R/FWD rookie & sub in Martin. He's too expensive & has too much scoring potential to sit on your ruck bench. So I think (if you can) spending the rookie ruck trade at some point is a good trade. When your running low on bullets you have to make them count!

    • dognino says:

      I have the exact same rucks as you, I'm planning on holding sandi until he actually gets rested. If it's before SC finals, I'll cop a donut, if it's during finals, that is when I'll trade him out.

      P.s. Going for league wins only.

    • The Mullet says:

      Thanks for the replies. Both are good food for thought.

    • The Garbo says:

      Martin loses a bit of appeal since you dont have thurlow to swing him if needed.
      BUT you should only see Martin as cash generation. His good scores will cease in 4-5 weeks once looey returns. But he will keep playing rest of season if hammy holds out. Will share the ruck load with looey

  46. @TG_Footy_Tragic says:

    heh… heh…

    Higgo said Heath Shaw…. 475 gay…

    heh… he said gay

    • Shaved Ham says:

      Unsavory.
      Very low on the arousal curve

      • @TG_Footy_Tragic says:

        Shaved ham, it was an obvious joke mate.

        I have nothing against homosexuals.

        society in general need to lighten up…
        Too easily offended. geez

  47. Magoo's says:

    hey guys, scored 2250 but had beams and stevie j out which wasnt great, i also had stevie j loopholed!!!!
    The team as it stands:

    Backs: Bartel, Swallow, Hibberd, Birchall, Hanley, Suckling (Georgiou, J. Tippet)
    Midfielder: Gaz, NDS, Murphy, Beams, Selwood, S. Johnson, Goddard, Mcveigh (Lloyd, Hartung)
    Ruck: Goldy, Sandi (King, Lobb)
    Forward line: Danger, Dusty, Dahlaus, Wingard, Parker, L. Taylor (Lloyd, Ambrose)

    Made some shocking trades last week going cotchin > stevie j and he didnt play but was happy with my m. johnson > Hanley trade.
    I only have 24k in the bank and 7 trades so need to tread lightly and make the trades i make count !!
    Would love any observations please :)

    • Cam_H says:

      Magoos,

      With only 7 trades, if I were you I'd hold off any further unless your team has an on-field regular go down with a serious injury, or your team is in a position when you can't get a full complement on the field and aren't likely to in weeks to come due to a combination of injured and otherwise non-selected players.

      With that said, if you're struggling at the bottom of your League and may indeed miss the finals, then maybe you can 'roll the dice' and make speculative trades now knowing that you might have little insurance for the rest of the year. Something like Sandilands to Nic Nat will net you $100K for some breathing room if you do need to later upgrade say your prospective F6 when Lewis Taylor / Patrick Ambrose / Sam Lloyd tops off in appreciation.

      Best of luck with whatever you choose!

  48. HouseofDarsh says:

    What was going on with Selwood this round? Was he getting tagged or just playing forward?

    • Porcelain says:

      Think I heard on the radio he was played forward.
      Had him in my team and thought he was heading for a big score after 2 goals in first quarter.

    • The Garbo says:

      Watched the game, he did spend most time up fwd but still kept going in the mids and didn't seem to attack the ball as hard as he normally does. But I believe he was playing sore as there was a lot of talk about him being a late out.

    • James Sykes says:

      extra attention with Stevie J being out didnt help.

  49. scano says:

    Thoughts on my team?
    Brought in JPK in for Shenton
    and Malceski in for Langdon

    Should I keep these trades or are there better trades to do? Thanks

    Bartel, McVeigh, Malceski, MJohnson, Hanley, Walker -EMG- Clay Cameron, Bews

    Ablett, Pendlebury, JPK, Selwood, Murphy, Beams, Watson, Goddard -EMG- Bloody Acres and Zachy O'Brien

    Sandi, Mumford – Nankervis and king ;/

    Danger, Martin, Parker, Zorko, Dahlhaus, Franklin -EMG- Cameron, Ambrose

    I know I still have watson but I'm going to hold him for another week
    Any suggestions?

    • Garglesnarf FC says:

      Hi sc

    • GarglesnarfFC says:

      Why are you upgrading Shenton first instead of Watson? Shenton is great cover while Watson is deadwood, surely Watto must go first?

      • scano says:

        yeah, just thought about maybe bringing in Fyfe for Watto and get JPK next week for shenton? Thoughts?

        • GarglesnarfFC says:

          Watto out first, wether that's for JPK or Fyfe. If JPK is your first target then Watto for him, do Shenton to Fyfe next week, as Shenton he will still go up a few $$$ this week, more if he scores 80+.

    • The Garbo says:

      Look to trade Johnson and Watson this week. Your cover is lacking and you have at least 4 more rounds without Johnson, more without Jobe. And you should still be able bring in JPK and Malceski if there the players you like. Then you can trade shenton and langdon next week. there BE is 50 and 87. So Shenton should still rise and Langdon may only lose a 5k if he does drop.

    • Dean says:

      I like your side mate. Firstly I would definitely stick with getting Malceski in as his break even is around 113 which he is likely to score.

      Secondly what ever you do hold of trading Shenton until next week. If you can trade out Shenton for JPK next week, the reason being JPK break even is 151 so he will drop in price and Shenton break even is only 50 so he should go up in price.

      Lastly seriously consider allot of thinking about FYFE, I like him but am petrified due to Ross Lions, there is a high likely-hood that he will rest many of his elite players starting this week as they play Brisbane, West Coast, Melbourne, Greater Western Sydney, Saints and Carlton in the next 6 weeks, that's a lotto draw into the finals. Think about Libba, Ward and Rockliff before Fyfe.

      Good luck.

  50. Billy says:

    or higgins out stefan martin in a smart trade??
    martin will be my D6

  51. Tom says:

    Hi community, here is my team so far. I have 8 trades left with $34,000 left
    backs: swallow, bartel, burboyne, langdon, hurn, hanley (georgio, cutler)
    mids: ablett, pendles, beams, selwood, rockliff, kennedy, ward, kane mitchell (hartung, acres)
    rucks: sandi, mumford (derickx, thurlow)
    fwds: danger, martin, parker, zorko, wingard, shenton ( lloyd, cameron)

    Thoughts on who to trade in and out?

    • Cam_H says:

      Tom,

      Personally, with 8 trades left I'd try to hold off further trading unless you can't field a full team or a premium gets a long term injury. The one I'd personally most likely consider if any would be Sam Lloyd to Stefan Martin if Lloyd isn't selected again, but again, I'd hold.

      Best of luck with whatever you choose.

      • Tom says:

        Yeah I'm 7th on the ladder and Im versing the guy who is 13th so I was thinking of just saving them. i was wanting to go maybe langdon to maleceski but I can't see where the money will be coming from

        • Cam_H says:

          Tom,

          Langton to Malceski (-$153) can be done with Tom Derickx down to a cheap ruck such as Luke Lowden (+$189) (there are cheaper still) but leaves you most likely without bench coverage if there's a problem with Sandilands or Mumford. I think that this is a workable but quite costly approach in that it'll be just about the last trades that you can make if you're wanting to go into finals with 6 up your sleeve. Your call, but I would just stick with what you've got and reassess regularly.

          Again – best of luck.

  52. ash says:

    Heath Shaw or Pearce Hanley?

  53. MightyDonsFC says:

    Best mid under 463k? Just want a 95+ average for the rest of the season. Leaning towards montagna but looking at a couple pods in the form of Mackay, Duncan and Carrazzo

    • Tom says:

      Luke shuey

      • MightyDonsFC says:

        Had him at the start of the season expecting a breakout year, still recovering from some burns he caused me

    • SCaddict says:

      Monty is very good value right now and probably the best pick of that lot. Only thing is that he and his Saints are really struggling at the minute so very doubtful indeed he will finish a top 12 mid.

      Most coaches are bringing in a Stevie J or Barlow type to complete their midfield but if your means are limited then I guess he could make a respectable M8. A.Swallow is another worth looking at for that sort of money.

      • MightyDonsFC says:

        Only want to use one trade and want to get mitchell out this week. Joey the front runner but I like a POD whether or not it puts me ahead of the competition no one knows

    • The Garbo says:

      If you can manage to scrounge an extra 10k you can look at Cotchin/Swan/Swallow.

      Under 463 though

      Can look at:
      Delidio (avg +100 for the past 6 seasons), but down on form atm along with Richmond.
      Jackson – bar injury game he avgs 106. Subject to fitness test though
      Bit left field But Curnow (avg a ton), was looking really good even though he was tagging. A lot of tackles and still showed he can rack up 20-30disposals (no judd though). Subject to fitness test as well.
      And as mentioned already Montag and Shuey would be the other two I would look at.
      Montag avg 100. last 4 games hes played gee port coll gcs and played poorly for sc. But seeing a big 144 vs hawks shows he can pump out the numbers even with the team getting smashed and has avgd over 97 since 2007

      • MightyDonsFC says:

        Don't like how lids crumbles under a tag, afraid of jackson and curnow having to tag the opposition. For me it's between Joey, Duncan, Mackay and Dahlhaus via DPP.

        • The Garbo says:

          Curnow has been the primary tagger in every game hes played and still 4 outve 5 good SC games.
          Jackson from what I've seen seems to have been given more freedom instead of having to play tagger and is benefiting from the drop in form from cotchin and lids.

          Outve the 4 your now thinking of. I would go:
          1. Montag 2. Dahl 3. Duncan 4. Mackay

    • James Sykes says:

      Mate, would it be worth holding another week and using another trade next week and getting a better quality mid then……

      might be a better long term move especially come finals? (just a thought)

      • MightyDonsFC says:

        Massive games this week in 4 of my leagues, decided I'll pull the pin if kane mitchell is made sub

  54. Billy says:

    is higgins out stefan martin in a smart trade??

    martin will need to be my D6 with cover from ambrose. and will set up my ruck/fwd swing with thurlow in ruck

    • SCaddict says:

      Think it will be a very common trade this week so you will have plenty of company whether it be right or wrong.

      I did this trade last week so yes I think it's a good move obviously, though it won't suit everyone.

      • Big Ben says:

        Not. If on the Martin trade to be honest. Leunhamburger will come back in less than a month boys and you'll have a non playing 300k ruck/fwd on the bench and that is if he doesn't do his hameys in the mean time.

    • throttlefinger says:

      Think that would be a wise trade. And reward you for picking Higgins, whose form is going slightly down.

      Martin will be around until round 19-20. And if his form continues, can't see him being dropped, especially on the a developing side like the Lions. Luey will need spells so he may be worth the jump…but less for points and more as a solid cash in for Higgins.

    • The Garbo says:

      Martin should play all season if his hammys hold up (done his hammy three times since november doesnt inspire confidence though). West was getting games with looey and I dont see that changing especially if Martin keeps up his performance.

      BUT once looey is back his scores will take a decent hit. So I would only be getting him knowing he's not going to be a keeper but is there just to make money with good output for the next 4-6 weeks.

      But yes Higgins to Martin could be a very good trade if you plan ahead

  55. peter says:

    I have $469K for a defender because I am trading Laidler. I have Swallow, McVeigh, Bartel, Suckling & Langdon.
    I am thinking Heath Shaw BE 39, but also Burgoyne BE 101 or Birchell BE 93. Is there any other defender worth considering within my price range.
    Your advice please.

    • SCaddict says:

      Yeah they are the main ones to look at for that price point. Hibberd is the other one to consider if you can look past the ASADA stuff and how much that may be weighing on the players.

    • The Garbo says:

      Not a fan of Heath Shaw. But at your price range now pickings are a slim for guarantee picks atm. Making him a decent pick.
      Though Mackie would most likely be my defender of choice

    • Gab says:

      what about hanley, nice 133 this week

  56. Gary says:

    Hey everyone who is a really cheap backline downgrade rookie option you may play a few games
    Help appreciated thanks :)

    • Derek says:

      Aylett is on the bubble. Not sure when he will get a game. After last weekend, might see a few changes at Essedon

      • Big Ben says:

        Not a lot of back line down grades at the moment chief, think carefully if you need to pull the trigger…

  57. Tom says:

    Who to cull out of Ambrose, Lewis Taylor or Shenton??

    • scano says:

      Depends if you want them for bench cover or not

      they all have low BE

    • MightyDonsFC says:

      I'd keep them all for the time being

      • Big Ben says:

        All 3 will get plenty of game time, keep Shenton as he will play a ton and has the fwd swing.

        I've got second coming Shenton in my midfield bench and Ambrose on my fwd bench

        Big lewy T is also a good option

    • RoganJ says:

      I jumped on tonight with the same question. Got all three, not sure who will be the first to go. LT was my plan before last week and he bangs out 100. He seems to have ok job security too with dpp. Would like him as bench cover for a few more weeks yet. Shenton and Ambrose have good JS and solid 60-75 points. That being said, Ambrose will go if he can get a few more $ up also because I would like a swing in the mids on the bench. Not sure if that helps because I don't know myself!

    • The Garbo says:

      If you have too, then Shenton purely because of the BEs.
      Shen (50) Ambrose (18) Taylor (15)

  58. MightyDonsFC says:

    Who would you rather? Joey, Duncan (POD), Mackay (POD) or Dahlhaus? Thanks for the suggestions.

  59. FootyFanatic says:

    Which Forward should I bring in, I can afford anyone but Gray or Harvey and I already have Danger, Parker, Martin, Wingard and big Tex. Help would be greatly appreciated.

    • MightyDonsFC says:

      Dahlhaus, Zorko and Mcglynn

    • GarglesnarfFC says:

      Zorko, SMartin. McGlynns out of or a few isn't he?

    • SCaddict says:

      This could be the last week Buddy is sub $500K for a while. Swans have a bunch of spud to semi-spud opponents coming up so the potential for huge scores is definitely there.

      Has averaged 113 over the past 4 weeks yet folks are still avoiding him like the plague.

      Buddy is back people even if Jock doesn't want to admit it publicly ha ha.

      • throttlefinger says:

        Buddy or Zorko. Both will give a bit of a headache yet form seems to be rising on both's game.

        • SCaddict says:

          Yeah Buddy has a slightly better average than Gray over the past month although Gray has been unbelievable all season of course.

          Zorko has also been tremendous averaging 107 over the past 3 so all these guys are in ripping form of late.

          There's a significant price differential between all 3 which obviously will impact individual coaches decisions. Like the Swans SC finals draw compared to the Lions as another element to factor in there.

          • throttlefinger says:

            Because Buddy has a bit more support, he's definitely the sexier option. Think that appeal goes away after he hits $500K. Also, he's been known for the occasional brainfart that draws the MRP's ire.

            Not one that stands out truly. As you said, all 3 will have impact.

            • FootyFanatic says:

              Thanks for the help guys, I will go with buddy I reckon, he has been in some great form and can pull out some huge scores!

  60. Big Ben says:

    Big dog, I say bring in Gray. This season consistently has shown R. Gray is a premium forward/ mid that has overcome his injuries. Lock him in

  61. JB says:

    How many trades does everyone have left?
    Currently on 9 trades

    • The Garbo says:

      11. Tempted to do two trades though this week….. Just because no real downgrade players bar miles and martin and no others even getting close yet

  62. Fitzy says:

    Should I still get rid of KK if he is my D8? Not liking the leaking of cash but I've got full premo defence and seems like a bit of a wasted trade.

    • The Garbo says:

      Not many options to downgrade him too atm… But as long as your D7 is playing you can just pick up a dirt cheap player and hope theyd get a game but no stress if they dont.

  63. Canardly See says:

    My FWDs: Parker, Martin, Zorko, Danger, Fasolo, Tutt, McGovern and Charlie Cameron.

    Like the idea of bringing Stefan Martin into the FWD this week – especially as he can swing into RUC with Thurlow (a bit of extra cover if something was to happen to Sandi or Sauce Jacobs). But who goes out? 13 trades and $246K in the bank – don't want to waste either. Or do I just sit tight and save for the finals? Cheers

    • The Garbo says:

      Im toying with the idea to bring martin in as well, as my F6, till closer to finals and use for ruck cover as well if needed. But wont be a keeper – Should make 100k min though and provide some solid scores till looey gets back in 4-6 weeks.

      Fasolo [be75] or Tutt [be27] would be on the block if it was me.
      Fasolo would most likely be the one I'd trade out just because of breakevens

    • James Sykes says:

      Fasolo is the obvious target here mate….especially if not named…..

      even if named Fasolo has become very inconsistent for an onfield forward. you might be able to get away with him on the bench but I would cash him in with your structure.

      • Canardly See says:

        Cheers James and The Garbo. All reports are Fasolo might be out for a few weeks, so probably logical choice to pull the trigger.

  64. Anthony says:

    Fellas thoughts on this wisdom??? I go Ambrose to Spina (mid/fwd) then have easy swing set for Lewis Taylor to cover both my midifled and forward line then I go Adcock>Kennedy (swans) though Mcveigh swing

  65. Anthony says:

    Not really much other to chop with Taylor and Shenton my only others

  66. Samuel says:

    Best midfielder under 612k???? Already got NDS, Selwood, Beams under that price

  67. matt says:

    Hey Community,

    DEF
    McVeigh, Swallow, Burgoyne,Hanley, Enright, McDonald,
    (Cutler, Bews)

    MID
    Ablett, Selwood, Dal Santo, Beams, Cotchin, Swan, Griffen, Shenton
    (Acres, O'Brien)

    RUC
    Sandilands, Jacobs
    (Currie, Thurlow)

    FWD
    Harvey, Gray, Dangerfield, Martin, Parker, Zorko
    (Cameron, Honeychurch)

    not too happy with my team this year other than my forward line :(

    exactly $40k in the bank very unsure of trades this week for the first time this year.
    any input is appreciated

    • Bruce says:

      Trade Cotch to S Martin re sub Gray/Zorko etc to mid (frees cash and open swing set with Thurlow in ruck). Look to Bartel as def upgrade when Shenton peaks.

  68. Remy says:

    Time to go Nick Riewoldt?

    • SCaddict says:

      He's crazy cheap right now. But just like Monty or Stevens it's hard to get too excited by Saints stars when their side is getting belted from pillar to post week in week out.

      Tough to see NRoo being a top 10 forward for the last 9 rounds of the season unless the Saints can find some competitiveness and get the ball up forward more frequently. Hasn't come close to tonning up in nearly 2 months!

      Could prove to be a master stroke to bring in the ageing champ but think few will be brave or foolhardy enough to go down that road given how he and his Saints are tracking atm.

      • James Sykes says:

        NRoo, Drew, Trav, westoff, jack, ……pretty much any key forward…..

        Seem to be returning one good score out of 3…….not inconsistent enough…..

        if I was going to pick a key forward it would be roughy as he seems to have some bigger scores in him (and more supply)

        • The Mullet says:

          I think the point about supply is crucial. I ran my eye over KPFs a few weeks back and got on Buddy. I didn't have the aggots to grab Trav as well. Both of these guys have quality midfields who can deliver the ball laces out. I believed that sooner or later they would turn it around. Although I think Nroo is a great player, he isn't in the same situation. He only gets points at all because he covers so much ground to find the ball and is so good 1 on 1. The Saints trying out all their kids won't help him either.

    • James says:

      Yes

    • Garglesnarf FC says:

      Has shown us nothing recently to indicate he is even worth considering. He is a hold if you are stuck with him (like me) but until he cranks out a solid 95+ he should be avoided.

  69. john snow says:

    Don't do it. He's stinking the hell out of my forward line.

  70. Samuel says:

    Besides Pendles and Gablett who are the next must have midfielders

  71. Tom says:

    Anyone good to downgrade to this week?

    • James Sykes says:

      even though he hasnt played a game I think Kersten will get an extended run in the Geelong team as the second lead up forward.

      otherwise we are looking at dust….honeychurch is another week away, fuller and schaeberg must be getting close up back as must Morabito in the mids………(cue tumble weeds)

  72. Rick Grimes says:

    Dunn. What’s the consensus? Burning it up of late.

    • James Sykes says:

      might be a little inconsistent down the stretch.

      depends if you are trying to make up a gap or hold your top 4 spot. If you are in the top spot I would pay the extra for a someone in the top 10 defenders that you dont have provided money is OK.

      Dunne is doing OK but he wont average 100 for the rest of the year

  73. Blake says:

    Why is no-one looking at getting Pearce Hanley into their teams. Only 470k, has a mid/fwd swing and just pumped out a 119 and a 133.

    • BCHawks says:

      Because most people already have him

      • James Sykes says:

        agreed. 2 weeks ago he was $430k. Still is likely to finish top 6 defenders especially with jaensch and d swallow on the down curve.

        i would still try to get him Blake.

  74. Anthony says:

    should i trade out kolo and put docherty as my D6

  75. jvk16 says:

    Just wondering what the communities thoughts are on the following defenders
    I need one to fill my final spot and haven't got a lot of cash
    am after someone under 475k already have Hanley
    looking at Shaw, Hibberd, or Birchall
    probably in that order
    Thoughts?

  76. sharker4 says:

    If Lloyd doesn’t get named this week, im going to move him on. Im thinking of trading Lloyd & Shenton -> Martin & Wingard. Thoughts?

  77. Jeff says:

    Hey Guys, I'm trading Jobe this week – been without Pendlebury so far so he would be the obvious choice, but should I maybe look to bring in more of a POD like Libba or JPK? Rest of mids are: Ablett, Selwood, Beams, Murphy, Rockliff, Cotchin and Lewis Taylor.

  78. Benjun says:

    worth going shenton to miles and impey to stef martin purely for improving bench cover, both should consistently score 80-100 which is better than what shenton / impey can do. Even though both are awkwardly priced, could be very handy for unfortunate late outs (aka beams). Would lose shenton DPP in the mid, but still got honeychurch on mid bench so still got the mid/fwd swing. Also got full premo side, 7 trades

    • Benjun says:

      not a fan of morabito if he eventually comes in, primed to be a sub (if sylvia is, morabito has to be)

  79. Rick Grimes says:

    Martin. R2 option? I could do so much if I downgraded Sandi. Surely the big man will break down soon anyway…

  80. SCaddict says:

    I notice a lot of coaches seem keen on cashing out Sandi. You are talking about ridding yourself of the 5th highest scorer, not ruckmen but in all of Supercoach, at least in terms of total points.

    Think anyone would be mad to ditch him unless he gets injured. There were many who thought he'd get rested either side of the bye and that didn't happen. So frankly no one knows when or even IF he will get rested. In fact Lyon has come out today and said that is unlikely to happen:

    http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-06-17/no-rest-for

    The guy you replace him with could easily miss games themselves and good ruck stories have been scarce as hens teeth with Sandi being one of the vey few of those this season.

    So I'd hang on to that precious trade for now and ride Sandi as long as possible which for me is very likely to be to the end of the season.

    Reckon you would be better off creating some ruck cover for BOTH of your ruckmen not just Sandi. I believe that will lead to the better outcome in the long run.

    • BCHawks says:

      After reading that article on the AFL website I definitely will be holding him for the rest of the season

      • SCaddict says:

        I realise everyone is starved for cash sources right now with the lack of new viable rookies but reckon it would be just like cashing out Gaz or Pendles. Just don't think it would be smart Supercoaching.

        • BCHawks says:

          I agree if people are so in need of cash then they should look to downgrade one of their out of form premiums not one that is the 5th highest scorer, but even then I would be hesitant to downgrade a premium and would only do it if there was no other option.

    • @lk_neate says:

      traded Sandi for Nic Nat 3 weeks ago and it gave me 170k. Since i have had him nic nat has found some form and average more the Sandi. Was desperate for cash and i was plan on getting Sandi back in at the end of the year. So far best trade i have made.

  81. Gary says:

    Hey everyone

    Luke shuey or leigh montagna ? :)

  82. MRcats says:

    Who is the best choice for m8 out of these ?

    David swallow, Anrew swallow, Jack steven, Leigh montagna, Luke shuey, Brett deledio,Dayne zorko

    Help really appreciated !!

    • Jonts says:

      You want to get as much scoring potential in your midfield as possible. I'm not quite sure how much money you have but it would be wise to spend extra on a premium that is A) inform and B)not injury prone

    • SCaddict says:

      Hard to say as they all have their pros and cons. If forced to place a wager out of that lot I would probably go Monty or A.Swallow for top scorer from here but it's guess work at best. If a DPP could benefit you in the middle then both D.Swallow and Zorko should be looked at.

      Just realise these really are bargain basement M8s and many of your opponents are likely to have better ones in the finals. For example I'm looking at bringing in either Rocky or Stevie J as my final mid for a line that reads GAJ, Pendles, JPK, Libba, Jelwood, Beams, Danger and Rocky/Stevie J.

  83. Brandon2416 says:

    who's the best mid bench cover below 200k???

    • Kev says:

      Not many options at that price. O'Brien is the only one I can think of. Three vests on the trot makes you think his JS isn't rock solid at the moment

  84. Ricky says:

    Any ody think ambrose to riewoldt or steven motlop is a good trade for m6 ?

    • Ricky says:

      Sorry i meant 6th forward not m6

      • Kev says:

        Neither. I'd look at trying to get more cash so you can upgrade him to a full premo. Ambrose has a b.e of 19 this week so still cash to be made.

  85. Adam says:

    T walker to Martin a good idea?
    I'm going to need more cash generation to get full prem to finals

    9 trades left excluding this one

    • Kev says:

      Assuming martin will be on the field, you'll just be trading him out again to reach full premium status. From a points gained perspective, you aren't gaining much. I'd just stick with tex

  86. James says:

    Hi community need your thoughts.
    I have 8 trades left with $34,900 left.

    backs: swallow, bartel, burgoyne, hurn, hanley, langdon, (cutler, georgio)
    mids: ablett, pendles, selwood, kennedy, rockliff, ward, beams, k.michell ( hartung, acres)
    rucks: sandi, mumford ( derickx, thurlow)
    fwds: danger, martin, zorko, parker, wingard, shenton, (lloyd, cameron)

    Don't know wether to hold trades or trade. thoughts??

    • Zac Dawson 3 Votes says:

      What about going lloyd to honeychurch to free up some cash? I think he will get a game soon.

  87. Glorin says:

    To trade or not to trade?

    Took Jocks advice and held off making a 2nd trade last week, which I sort of regret now as hindsight shows it would have been worthwhile!

    Anyway, looking for advice on next move.
    11 trades, $30k

    Bartel, McVeigh, Swallow, Malceski, Hibbard, Langdon, (Langford, Georgiou)
    Ablett, Libba, Jelwood, Sloane, Beams, Gray, Goddard, McCrae (Hartung, O,Brien)
    Mumford, Sandi ( Derickx, Currie)
    Danger, Dusty, Parker, Zorko, L.Taylor, Ambrose ( impey, Cameron)

    Lots of options to play with, just not sure which way to go. Trying to free up Langfords cash has me struggling with no back rookies coming through, same with Derrickx.

    Am top or top 4 in my leagues and just outside top 5000 overall and generally happy with where I'm at just looking for some different points of view.

    cheers

    • Wattsieesq says:

      I think your forward line needs to be addressed. There are rookie forwards downgrade targets coming through in the coming weeks (eg Honeychurch, Kersten) but aren't on the bubble this week. Your forward rookies all have low BE. Your only rookie that my lose cash is Langdon. You could have traded him for Hanley last week but that ship has sailed. You have Enright, Watts, and Lumumba as options. All have their pros and cons.

      If I were you, I'd probably hold.

      • Glorin says:

        Hanley to langdon was the trade I held off on last week.! Big regrets, but move on to the next one.

        Think I will hold, unless a rookie back shows up.
        Cheers

  88. @lk_neate says:

    looking to finish off my defence
    currently have Bartel, Mcveigh, Swallow, Hanley, Hurn
    just wanting to see who you would choose
    Cheers

  89. TigerTuff says:

    JPK or LIBBA?

  90. Clarko says:

    Zorko or rioli ?

    • throttlefinger says:

      Hey Clarko. Zorko. Rioli, while dynamic, is injury prone, as he's proven. Big risk.

      And while Zorko can go big or suck eggs, he's very durable. Plus I think his form is picking up.

    • Greybeard says:

      Cyril whilst brilliant and capable of winning a game in 10-minutes is also very fragile. However without a circa 2012-13 bombers vitamin plan he is going to break 2-3 times a season.

    • WombatsFC says:

      Frying Pan or Fire?

  91. Donavan says:

    Hello Community, firstly a big thank you to those who have provided invaluable feedback and suggestions over the past weeks, my team has been competitive in a very competitive league of recent.

    My team is-

    DEF – Bartel, Swallow, Enright, Malceski, Hanley, Firrito (Schoenmakers, Tippett)
    MID – Ablett, Pendlebury, D.Beams, Priddis, Goddard, Cotchin, D.Martin, Zorko (Shenton, Acres)
    RUCK – Sandilands, Naitanui (Derickx, Lobb)
    FWD – Dangerfield, Franklin, Dahlhaus, Roughead, Gray, McGovern (Ambrose, S.Lloyd)

    I have just traded out Hartung from the MID, swung Shenton from FWD to MID, to bring in McGovern this week.

    I have just $4k remaining, and 8 trades left after bringing in McGovern.

    Should I have done the McGovern trade?, should Hartung have been the player traded?

    My thoughts are just the 1 trade this week, then hold for a while until the cash cows in Tippett, Shenton, Acres, McGovern, Ambrose and Lloyd fatten-up.

    Appreciate your feedback as always.

    • throttlefinger says:

      Hey Donavan. You may be chasing points a bit with McGovern. May be worth holding on to your one trade. Wait until Shenton or Ambrose gets to plucking value and complete your F6 for Parker or whomever you think tasty.

      You have Hartung and Acres, both players coming back in 4-5 weeks and will be good bench cover. Acres is a foot injury so he may not hit the track again as hard as Hartung (elbow). Think those are worth holding out for.

      I've made the mistake of ditching covers too quickly. As Impey has demonstrated, it may be worth keeping them on the bench if they are always on the field.

      Hope this helps, my man.

      • Donavan says:

        Thank TF

        I am actually chasing bench coverage (got caught last week with Beams withdrawal) and no MID bench coverage. Also think that McGovern's price rise will help me get to full premo a little faster, plus Hartung price will take a while to appreciate due to that score of 5 in his last match. Also not sure about Hartung's JS as many others ar returning to Hawthorn team in next few weeks.

    • Cheating is Cheating says:

      Hartung to McG was the right trade l/week. This week I'd go Derrix to Stefan Martian and Lloyd to thurlow. It will open up some loophole flixibility and give quality bench cover on both ruck and fwd line. Use the cash you make to to turn Shenton or Anbrose into Stevie J or Swan n/w.

      • WombatsFC says:

        Hi Mother Theresa,
        He's considering Hartung to McG this week; given your current state of health I forgive you this oversight.
        I do applaud you strategy re Derrikx though.

      • Donavan says:

        Thanks Cheating,

        Traded in Hanley & Zorko last week, but your right in hind-sight McGovern would have been a good inclusion. McG still has plenty to appreciate over the next 2-3 weeks. I dont like S.Martin, just dont trust his output, so prefer not to burn 2 trades when my ruck is set (with Derickx as cover).

        I do intend to use Shenton, Ambrose, Tippet, McGovern to upgrade to the likes of Steve J, S.Mitchell in coming rounds. Just needs those cows to fatten-up.

  92. Dutch Life says:

    Would love some my advice on my team.

    DEF: Bartel, Swallow, Simpson, Birchall, Jaensch, Langdon (Cutler Gregiou)

    MIDS: Gary, Pendulberry, JPK, Sellwood, Ward, Murphy, Cotchin, Steve Johnson( O’Brien, Acres)

    RUCS: Sandilands, Goldstein( Derickx, King)

    FWDS: Danger, Parker, Martin, Zorko, Shenton, Taylor ( Ambrose, Cameron)

    Was thinking Ambrose> Robbie Gray

    That will leave me with,$35,800, and 6 trades

    Would love your advice community, Cheers

    • Greybeard says:

      Turn langdon into McVeigh – Cotchin to Libba – Shenton to Gray

    • WombatsFC says:

      With that fwd line you'd be crazy not to get Stefan & thurlow for derricx and your any of your m5-8

      • Dutch Life says:

        So what trades would recommend doing?
        Cheers for the help

        • WombatsFC says:

          Derrikx for Thurlow and Shenton or Ambrose for S.Martin. The cash you make will enable you to turn Cotchin and another into Premo the following week.
          I reluctantly traded L.Taylor instead of Shenton last week. I reckon I shouldve kept Taylor.

          • Dutch Life says:

            Cheera wombat.
            Will do those trades then.
            Yeah I was also about to trade out Taylorr last week but thought I should hold on him and last after last week I’ll be keeping him for a few more weeks.
            Thanks mate, Any other thoughts or suggestions.?

        • Donavan says:

          I would trade Langdon to a premo defender.

          Shenton, Taylor, Ambrose, Cameron, O'Brien & Acres will all go up in value over the next few weeks, so hold out trading them as long as you can. Langdon has reached his peak.

  93. WombatsFC says:

    What to do?
    I have Ollie Wines at M8 and the cash to turn him into SJ / Swan or similar under-performer; already have gaz,pendle,libba,beams,rocky,jelwood,smurph.
    But I also have Burgoyne at D3 then Hanley, Langdon, Docherty, George. The obvious is to get Jimmy Bart but I don't have enough $ to trade Langdon or Doch directly to him.
    Wines to Bartell is only a nett points gain of 4-6 so if I trade Ollie it will be up to a JPK or similar.
    I also have Gray,Danger,Parker,Zorko,Dahlhouse,S.Martin up front

    • Donavan says:

      Wombat,

      I would keep Wines (he averages over 100), an focus on using the cash to upgrade the defence.

      Hibberd is well priced, and apart from last week is consistent.

    • throttlefinger says:

      My friend, Wombats. Forget back line. Complete your mid lines.

      Bartel has the engine and his form has been impeccable. Also, be nice to have a DPP in your mids to give you a little extra padding, no?

      Not feeling SJ or Swan. They will belt out the occasional 120+ sure. But SJ is an experienced player who STILL can't hold his temper from making bonehead MRP-salivating hits. Avoid. Swan just seems, well, meh. Comparatively to years past. Don't know if worth the cash.

      All in all, I'd move mountains to get JPK. Hanno out and an emerging forward line means steady 110+ points. Have had him since the jump and has been probably my best decision.

      Ollie has to go. 2nd year engine. See him going 85+ from the year out.

  94. scano says:

    Will Fyfe be rested during finals even with their hard run? Ross Bloody Lyon

    • The Garbo says:

      Lyons came out and said it would be quite unlikely that he'd rest Pav and Sandi – who I'd assume would be the two who would've got rested first.

  95. Anthony says:

    DEF
    McVeigh, Swallow, Burgoyne,Hanley, KK, Bartel,
    (litherland, flynn)

    MID
    Ablett, Selwood, Steve J, Beams, Dangerfield,fyfe, rockliff, K.mitchell
    (Spina, O'Brien)

    RUC
    Sandilands, grundy
    (Currie, nakervis)

    FWD
    Shenton, wingard, roughead, Martin, Tex , Zorko
    (ambrose, Honeychurch)

    Want to trade out KK but idk who need help only 6 trades left and 24.800k

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