Tight Arse Tuesday, Round 4

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mick-the-madHello again community and welcome to our round 4 TAT (Tight Arse Tuesday). I think most teams had a better round 3 than the previous week and hopefully those of you going for league wins, got off to a good start.

Round 4 is an awkward round to be trading in. Ideally we would all like to have finished our corrective trades before the price rises, but many of us are probably still looking at big holes in some positions across our teams.  For those of you with cash in the bank after a couple of corrective downgrades last week, you should be able to pick out a premium upgrade to fill a hole this week. However, for those of you with little or no cash in the bank, the prospect of a corrective trade this week can be difficult. None of our rookies are anywhere near ripe enough to be plucked just yet, making an upgrade, downgrade scenario neon impossible. That will leave many coaches contemplating a sideways trade this week, and this is where we get into dangerous territory.

Most of us know we shouldn’t perform a sideways trade, yet every year we somehow get sucked into doing one or two. Go on, don’t lie, we all know who we are! And every year within a matter of rounds we end up regretting them and look back on themas wasted trades. So far this year I have had friends perform the following trades:

  • Hanley to Bartell after round 1 (down 78pts)
  • Libbratore to Treloar after round 1 (down 15pts)
  • Mitchell to Swallow after round 2 (down 12pts)
  • Franklin to Zorko after round 2 (down 84pts)

I know it’s only very early and you can’t make judgement on the success of a trade after a couple of rounds, but I can’t see any of those trades doing better than breaking even over the course of the season. To me they are all wasted trades, which will most likely come back and really hurt you when you need that extra trade come finals.

What we now really need to be asking ourselves is:

Are those big holes in our teams, really that big? Thus do they warrant us using a trade now, and the bigger question is do they warrant us using a sideways trade?  Can we wait it out for two more weeks after some more rookie cash generation? They are questions you will need to answer for yourself. Many have already bypassed these questions and gone straight for the trade button, where there are two names that seem to have caught the eye of many a prospective buyer.

Matthew Jaensch

3 Round Average 109.67

Breakeven -19

Current Price $364,600

Priced to Average 70

Matthew has got off to a great start to the season and is currently the equal second highest ranking defender. Currently owned by just 6% of all coaches, Matthew is definitely a POD pick, well at least before this week anyway. He has been in the system now for 4 years and he hasn’t exactly shown anything that would suggest that he is Supercoach relevant in that period of time. His largest Supercoach average of 74.7came in his second season and he has failed to kick on from there. It is also worth pointing out he is yet to play a full season, with 13 games being his largest total, again coming in his second year.

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Well clearly something has changed to see Jaensch go for very ordinary Supercoach scores to his current run of three Supercoach tonnes. To put it in prospective, he only managed one supercoach tonne in his four years at AFL level before this year.

The answer to that is clearly a change in role, and maybe more importantly some absentees that are currently on the Crows injury list. Namely Ricky Henderson and Nathan van Berlo. Henderson played the rebounding defender role at the Crows for the most part of last season and managed to average 105pts per game from round 14 to 20 before a knee injury ended his year. Henderson was tipped to continue that role this year but after suffering a broken fibula after being tackled during a team session during the preseason, Ricky hasn’t played this year, and isn’t due back for another 4-5months. That has to be a good thing for Jaensch as he is pretty much guaranteed the rebounding role for the rest of the year. To see what that actually means for Jaensch’s numbers, lets that a look at his stats so far this year.

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As you can see he has green and red in pretty much all the desirable rows you would want. The massive two stats that have caught my eye from the above table are the 25 disposals he has a game and the whopping 93% disposal efficiency. When you get the ball that many times and you use it that well, it’s not hard to see why he is scoring so well.

Stats don’t lie but they also have many hidden truths. The fact that he has such a high disposal efficiency, over 75% of his possessions have been uncontested, he’s been averaging 8.3 marks a game and 2.7 bounces a game tells me that he has been left unchecked by the opposition so far this year.

That is all well and good so far but if me and you are taking note of him now, what do you think coaches who get paid for a living are doing right now? This seems to happen every year where a player has a change of role across the half back and the opposition are unaware over the first few rounds, and we see them rack up the possessions. Of course this doesn’t last long and the more they influence games the more attention they get. Luckily for Jaensch owners to date Adelaide haven’t won any of their games and thus Jaensch may go a little longer into the season before he sees some attention.

If you think Jaensch will keep up his current stats I think you would be very naive. It is most likely he will end up averaging something close to the person whose role he has replaced, Ricky Henderson.

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I’d expect his disposals to come down closer to the 20 mark and disposal efficiency to come down to the 75% mark over the rest of the year. We all know this will lead to a decrease in average supercoach score too.

The Mad Irishman’s Verdict

2014 Predicted Status: Strong Midpricer

Predicted Average from here on out:  86-90pts

Final Word:

There is still value in Jaensch at his current price but the big question you should be asking yourself is he going to be a keeper for the year and thus worth the trade now. I can’t see him finishing in the top 10 defenders for the year and that is why I won’t be considering him this week. However if you still have some horror selections in your backline Jaensch just might be the man to fill a hole, just don’t expect premium output every week.

Jackson Merrett

3 Round Average 103

Breakeven -22

Current Price $332,400

Priced to Average 64

Jackson Merrett is another player who has got off to a great start to the season and is currently the seventh highest ranking forward. Currently owned by just 4% of all coaches, Jackson is also a POD pick. He has been in the system now for 2 years and going into his third at age 21 he is definitely in that breakout zone.

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As Jackson has really only played one season prior to this year it is very hard to read into any of his past AFL stats. I have given you his stats below to show you where is current supercoach scores are coming from.

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Averaging 24 possessions, running at 77.7%, 5.3 tackles and 2.3 clearances a game all adds up to healthy supercoach scoring. That’s all well and good knowing what he did over the first 3 rounds, but the hard part now is predicting what he can do for the rest of the year and thus is it worth trading him in now?

It’s hard to know where anyone at Essendon are playing these days with players seamlessly rotating positions on a week to week and quarter to quarter basis. Merrett was named in the forward pocket against the blues but played more of a half forward/midfielder, roaming across the ground picking up disposals at ease against the inept weak minded Blues. (Gosh how bad where they?). This is the beauty of the Bombers right now, they seem to have an extra number at every contest, and an extra man every time they spread. It’s almost like they are playing with extra numbers on field. If they didn’t have such clean track record I might think they were cheating ….. oh wait …. Hey did anyone actually count how many players they used on Sunday!

All joking aside you might have remembered me discussing Melbourne last week and how with their high disposal game, a lot of their players are very relevant Supercaoch picks. Well if that is the case for Melbourne then we really should be taking note of Essendon because so far this year they have been Supercoach Kings. (Just wish Paddy Ryder got the memo)

  • Round 3: Essendon 1945pts vs Carlton 1355pts
  • Round 2: Essendon 1882pts vs Hawthorn 1418pts
  • Round 1: Essendon 1980pts vs North 1320pts

Essendon have managed to average 1935 Supercaoch points a week so far this year, which is a staggering number. Under Mark Thomson the bombers have increased their disposal numbers from the already pretty healthy number of 375 in 2013 to a massive 435 in 2014. When you consider most teams will put work into limiting Watson’s, Goddard’s, Heppell’s or Stanton’s numbers then many of the next rung of players are going to benefit from such a high disposal game plan.  Jackson Merrett just happens to be one of those players.

Here’s the hard part, how do I tie all this together and predict what Merrett will average for the rest of the year. On past experience Essendon have been renowned for their second half of the year fade outs. (must be a come down from some sort of high.. who knows what that might be?) However I don’t actually think that will happen this year under Bomber Thomson. However my experience of young break out players does suggest that Merrett will at some point during the season go through a form dip that will ultimately lead to a drop off in average.

The Mad Irishman’s Verdict

2014 Predicted Status: Strong Midpricer

Predicted Average from here on out:  88-92pts

Final Word:

I know many will be tempted to go Caddy to Merrett this week but you really got to ask yourself in the long term is this trade worth it. I just can’t see Merrett becoming a keeper and will most likely need to be traded on again later in the year. Don’t get me wrong, Merrett still has value at his current price but as a fellow Caddy owner I think it’s best to wait a couple more weeks and turn Caddy into a forward keeper.

Don’t Trade – (Pick of the Week)

Each week I have been providing you with a “Pick of the Week Selection”. However as I said in my intro, round 4 is an awkward round to be trading in and most trades performed in this round are sideways in nature.

I personally haven’t got off to the start I wanted and am currently ranked around the 15,000 mark. I have all of Thomas, Caddy and Higgins in my team but panic trading at this stage in the hope to better my score by a maximum of 40-50pts a round over the next couple of weeks is not the way to go. Once those rookies make a few more $dollars$ I can upgrade to the premiums I want and not just some stop gap.

Final Word:

Back your men in. I’m betting those holes aren’t as big as you think they are!

Stay tuned ….

Mick the Mad Irishman

 

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  1. SamuelScoach says:

    yes agreed no trades this week

  2. Papaya says:

    Do you think it is worth going Leuenberger to Mumford this week?
    I can afford to do it with one trade and I am really worried that Trent West will continue to steal Leuey's points.
    Thanks

    • Mumford4PM says:

      Yes

    • pieman says:

      I think Mummy has bolted. I too have Leuy but im riding it out. He's playing and trades are precious. HOLD

    • WombatsFC says:

      No. Downgrade him to Haymac and pocket 128k PLUS pick up another 80k before the bye. HayMac is showing no signs of the injury that saw him play only 8 games from 2011 to 2013k and is getting better with each game, 80,88,97. The bloke is a premium ruck (currently 8th highest scoring ruck) at a bargain basement price and with the extra 128k you might be able to turn an underperforming rookie into a Jaensch or Merrett.

      • WombatsFC says:

        OR, if you don't have both Gaz and Pendle you can use the profit from Leuy to Haymac to get one of them Gaz is predicted to rise another 30k this week and 36k the week after, Pendle will only be 20k more if you pass him up this week.

  3. Matt says:

    Is it worth trading priddis to prestia, i see prestia averaging 115 this year and priddis only 100-105

  4. Dogs says:

    I currently have Rohan at F6 and McDonough , JKH on the bench. Out of these 3 spuds I was thinking of turning McDonough into merret , and leave Rohan , JKH on the bench…..I mean at least they're playing, however poorly. And in turn hope JKH can get a game without a vest, and when ambrose is fit again I plan the trade out Rohan for ambrose for the $130k swing around, $70k from the downgrade + $60k from ambrose first price rise . These are my only planned trades until my cows are fat enough/bye rounds, touch wood no more injuries/ suspensions.

    • dogs says:

      i may be forced to pull the trigger earlier on JKH, as i have wingard and possibly danger out this week, so JKH would be an on field player for me….which unless he doesnt get the vest i cant have, thinking to stick with mcdonut to merret, and if JKH named sub then him into l.taylor.

      so much for the plan of getting rohan off the ground, looks like he gets to spud it up again for me regardless , until wingard and danger come back from injury

  5. Sleepy says:

    Hi Mad Mick before reading your article I was considering trading Enright down to Jaensch if he not up this week, make a few bucks on Jaensch and then get Enright back again down the track when his price goes down and Jaensch has maxed out, I have been playing supercoach 4 years and had Enright every year and he not let me down yet. Love his consistency. What your thoughts cheers

    • Branks says:

      I am also thinking of going Enright to Jaensch as I think Enright's injury may linger.

    • Look injuries are the one exception to a sideways trade. If your player is going to miss more than two weeks I would trade. Enright might be back in a week or then again he might not. I have definitely heard worse trades but I personally would hold. Remember its two trades, one to replace him now and one to get him back in. By holding you'll have two extra trades with the same team come finals

    • Dale says:

      same sleepy, i am thinking of a possible enright to jaensch, but very wary of the wasted trade for a little short term gain. depends on enrights injury I think, injuries change everything on sideways type trades, especially money making ones like this.

  6. HBags says:

    Anyone's thoughts on going Suckling to Swallow? I can see Suckling's output sitting around 90, whereas the sky is the limit for Swallow this year.. and only $476K.

    • canman1306 says:

      If you can see Sucklings output at 90 May aswell keep him because he will be a top 15 DEF If he can average 90

    • Is suckling your worst defender ?? Probably not – wait a few weeks and upgrade your rookie defenders. Always start from the bottom up when you trade

    • @daveywarhol says:

      If you look at Sucklings history, you'll see he is the Travis Cloke of defence. 120 one week, 30 the next. I say hang on to him while his breakeven is low and then bang.

  7. James says:

    Hi Mick,

    Is it worth downgrading Jay Kennedy Harris to Patrick Ambrose this week? Harris just fell in price and seems destined for the green vest. Ambrose has had 2 very solid scores and is set to return this week and make some cash. I know you said no sideways trades but there is some instant value in this trade.

    Would love your thoughts.

    • GarglesnarfFC says:

      It's great IF Ambrose returns, the mail I'm reading says he isn't.

    • Yeah if you really think your team needs some extra cash generation I don't see this one as a major problem. That is if Ambrose is indeed back this week

      • @daveywarhol says:

        Strong word is Ambrose is out for a couple of weeks. And there is a real shortage of cheap fwds, so keep JKH on the pyne and hope he gets a full game!

    • Mungos Men says:

      Roos cant play JKH as sub for much longer… just not helping him develop only getting a quarter of game time, im picking he gets dropped and will smash it at VFL then back for first full game.

  8. Reecescoach says:

    Hey fellas love the page,
    Which of these do you think is the best
    A) Jaensch and Harvey
    B) Merrett and Bartel/Hanley
    C) Petrie and Swallow
    Cheers

    • GarglesnarfFC says:

      For who?

      Without knowing A, but it's a bit like 'how long is a piece of string?'

      • Reecescoach says:

        Walters- (out this week and underperforming)
        Sdt- Averaging 83 I know it's not horrible but I dont really want to go Walters to Merrett. What would you do?

        • GarglesnarfFC says:

          Sure Reece. I don't know your team and it's structure but here is what I'm doing. I have Hurn, my D3 out. Hanley, a genuine premium, comes in. Michie a planned cash cow is out. So Kelly, another cow, comes in.

          Like for like. My structure which was planned preseason, does not change. From here I hope to not trade before round 8, unless injury intervenes. My cows will go up and I expect my premiums to score. Caddy, Enright and Vince all stay and do their job.

          Your on the money with A.

          The forward line is a basket case this year, and I can see people burning more trades on forwards than all the lines combined.

    • GarglesnarfFC says:

      For who?

    • Danners16 says:

      Why Petrie?

    • roger says:

      get rid of petrie, i did so in round 2, saved myself a massive cash fall. Brought in reiwoldt who is holding his money, now i used that cashfall to upgrade michie to dunstan

  9. David says:

    Rank 534 – (27 trades left, $82,700 rem. salary)

    Rd 2: Rockliff > Treloar
    Rd 3: Rohan > Ambrose, Clurey > Jaensch

    Wondering what people think about Viv Michie? I guess in the case that he plays (seemingly unlikely after no significant injuries for Melbourne and his not being named in the best for Melbourne's VFL team) then I'll just keep him. Assuming he doesn't play, should I be looking at Josh Kelly or waiting a week on Matt Crouch?

    • Swans2014 says:

      He injured his jaw and is out for 4 weeks…move him on

      • David says:

        Oh, yeah? I thought I read that he was omitted.
        Where did you read that?

        Probably a good call on that one though, thanks! (y)

        Josh Kelly or Matt Crouch?
        Crouch got more possessions as the sub than Kelly did, but will he continue to get the sub vest while maybe Kelly won't? And then you have to consider Crouch is 100k cheaper.

    • GarglesnarfFC says:

      He broke his jaw and is out 4. Trade to Kelly is good, or wait or week and get Crouch for $90k less.

    • cyril says:

      David, Michie has a broken jaw and will be out for a while

    • canman1306 says:

      Very hard Decision their are arguments to pick each of them as David Said
      But I think I would pick JKelly as he has very solid JS

      • Chooka says:

        Thoughts on Dylan Buckley, only $133,000. Looks likely to play each week.

        • LukTon says:

          Are you suggesting trading Rockliff out for Treloar??

          Just about every team has that player who, no matter what the opposition throw at him, he just can't be held down. These are the kind of players we want to get in our team come the end of the year. For instance, Geelong has Selwood, Essendon has Watson, and Adelaide have Dangerfield. I propose that Brisbane have one too; Rockliff.

          Treloar may very well be one of those guys, but considering his average of 87 last year, how can we be SURE that his form at the start of this year is sustainable?

          Also, just do one check the opposition so far for GWS and Brisbane. What will happen when GWS, who have now been noted by the rest of the competition as no easy beats this year, go up against some genuine finals contenders in the coming rounds?

          KEEP ROCKY! He is in that upper echelon of stars in our competition.

  10. Scott says:

    Hey Mick,

    Great article as always.
    While reluctant to trade in Jaensch, I do have Hurn sitting on the bench, which warrants a little further thought. No one else knocking down the door.

    1) Trade in KK. However at $200K, if he averages around 65, he'll only make us $100K.
    2) Trade in a premium, Birchall is about the same price, and looks good with all the attention on Suckling.
    3) Jaensch. While we'd only get $100K from the downgrade, instead of the $200K for KK, we would expect more points, prob 20-25 more than KK per week. At an avg of 85, we can probably hold him a few weeks past the byes as a last upgrade, and still make roughly the $100K we'll get from KK.

    Thoughts on how Hurn may change thoughts on Jaen?

    • Danners16 says:

      I like the look of Jaensch, getting 100's when the team is losing

    • I like your thinking

      Injuries warrant trades, so Jaensch becomes relevant in this instant. To be honest I see him averaging the same as Birchall so I'd go with him. keep him as your 6th defender and who knows he might keep it up for the year and become a keeper.

  11. mick says:

    thoughts on caddy to breust and mundy to tyson and 100,000

    • Swans2014 says:

      Bit harsh on Mundy. He is averaging 102.7- 1 less than his average last year. Didn't seem to have much support against Hawks and don't think you can pull the plug yet as everyone from Fremantle didn't play well.

    • GarglesnarfFC says:

      Looks like a great way to waste two trades. Why go sideways and down? What is your reasoning?

    • I assume you picked Mundy as a keeper so i'd be inclined to do just that, keep him. Wait a couple of weeks and turn caddy into a premo with a rookie downgrade.

  12. bloke says:

    Only trade I've made this week (and plan to) is Luey down to HMac. West is affecting Luey more than I thought, even sharing HMac will make me some cash. Once NicNat finds form, I'll go HMac to him.

    • Swans2014 says:

      Seems like wate to many trades on ruck. Try and go 1 trade to Mumford

    • canman1306 says:

      Hey mate, Why don't you just wait it out Leuy and HMAC Will average about the same until the byes.
      Getting Hmac in and then trading to Nic-Nat will cost you 2 trades instead of 1.
      What if Leuy Finds form?

      • bloke says:

        I just don't think that Luey is in a "forces slump". I seriously believe West is stealing his points. Even by looking at hit out numbers you can see that West and Luey are almost 50/50 splitting the ruck time. Up till now, HMac has averaged more points and by round 8 will be the same value if not higher than Luey. I just can't see the value in holding onto Luey, I think I made a judgement error in my initial team

  13. Jack says:

    Viv Michie out for 4 weeks with a broken jaw. Who is the next best cheap mid option? Already have dunstan, aish, crouch and polec.

    Am thinking Josh Kelly, or swap Langdon to mids and get 'Thumper'.

    Thoughts?

  14. Swans2014 says:

    afl.com have an article on it

  15. cyril says:

    I've got Enright and McEvoy. Trade or hold? Only have Derickx as cover in the ruck. Not sure what the injuries are to either or how long they look like being out for.

    Got 213K in the kitty

    • roger says:

      i still got cameron wood in the side. Currently a good loophole, but hoping he gets a game in the ruck.

  16. cyril says:

    Just read that MceVoy should play this week, if he doesn't it seems like he'd more than likely play the week after so i'll stick with him and cop the 50 odd score Derrickx should give. Still haven't heard about Enright

  17. Vasu says:

    Is it worth trading kade Simpson to a guy like Hanley ? Thoughts community

  18. GarglesnarfFC says:

    That might be the most sensible post on trading I have read all day Dogs! Get Rohan & JKH onto the pine and gets 60-120 pts onto the park. I love it.

    Great reasoning, and I can't fault the logic. Just do it!

  19. Coop says:

    Mick would you get Zorko or Roughead for Higgins? I have the coin from doing Hurn to Jaensch last week so may as well spend it. Was always planning to get Zorko but last weeks game as somewhat put me off.

    Tough call.

  20. Ocker says:

    I am still corrective trading due to problems in my team.
    This week Clurey to KK Who will keep improving on his current scoresl
    Rohan to Kelly via swing of Taylor to forward line. Kelly is a Gun.

    This should mean Win Win, Cash Cash instead of 2 bad choices in the first place. (I Hope)
    And Taylor in forward instead of Rohan.

    Cheers.
    (Ocker's Options and Opinions)

    • Ocker says:

      Hopefully this means no trading for a few weeks until the cows have fattened.
      The trades are gold this year but think I have to make these 2 cow changes for the cash generation to build up my backs and forwards.

    • throttlefinger says:

      Strong moves, Ocker.

    • Rescued Pieman says:

      Like your thinking Ocker. I am thinking Clurey to KK. Stats suggest good scores not far away. A non playing player to a round 8 bye says meh to me. KK could be a keeper. Kelly looked awesome but he played a garbage side, think hard on that one for 220K

      • Ocker says:

        Done the research and just been waiting for him to appear. Take him any day over KK.

        Cheers.

  21. Swans2014 says:

    What do I do with Walters?

    • Ocker says:

      Options off the top of head.
      Dahlhaus, or Darling at about that price.
      Darling has a new role this year and seems to be getting midfield time as well as forward.
      Depends on bank balance and team structure. League win or overall win.
      I would try and stick to guns and rookies if you can.

      Cheers.

  22. brick savy says:

    I'm trading hard again………… remembering that for all these words of wisdom last years winner ran out of trades well before the end.
    For me – I'm bringing in Jaensh for Clurey
    Coniglio for Barlow.
    The latter trade I'd like to talk about………

    Coniglio hasn't had a score under the ton this season – prestia+macrea also on my mind but Dion is $$$ and Maccrae did have one game at 80.

    Shattered about barlow, i'd keep him for the season and even abide 3-4 weeks out, but at 4-6 it's sideways time (sort of) Hoping coniglio can up his value.

    • Danners16 says:

      I really like the look of Coniglio as last week he had a disposal efficiency of 48% so he could of had about 140 nearly last week, depends which rookies you have on the field for Clurey trade

    • Coniglio and Jaensh may both need upgrading to higher scoring permos for your run home – BIG RISK but BIG REWARD – go with your gut

  23. GeneralSoreness says:

    Mick that post was like the Anti Mick, nothing Mad in it at all just a lot of sense.

    Thanks for helping me take my itchy trigger finger off the trade button! Caddy lives to fight another day!

  24. sputnik says:

    Seems Walters in going to need ankle surgery, Chapmans resting is begining as unlikely to go west this week and enright I got rid of last week before Swallows price rise. These old boys are great players but once they start having issues of you go. Thats why noone like them or those like Pav are welcome in my team. No more burn alowed no matter how good they go. that includes you zorko.

  25. SCaddict says:

    Mick I'm strongly entertaining a Daisy down to either a J.Kelly or M.Crouch deal. I've had an excellent bunch of rookie mids since the get go with Tyson, Polec, Dunstan and Xman and their scores are wasted on the pine each week, especially when they usually eclipse Daisy's numbers most rounds.

    Daisy could run amok this weekend against the Dees but is probably more likely to be a fairly slow burn. Could take him another month to crack $400K which is a pretty poor return for the risk assumed. No doubt he will become a decent player post byes but not convinced we can wait that long.

    This move will also generate a decent serving of cash to consider a Langford to KK trade or a JKH to Lewis switch should we get some bad news at the selection table this Thursday. As well as free up some room to move should Sandi go down in the next few weeks.

  26. SCaddict says:

    Mick I'm strongly entertaining a Daisy down to either a J.Kelly or M.Crouch deal. I've had an excellent bunch of rookie mids since the get go with Tyson, Polec, Dunstan and Xman, and their scores are wasted on the bench each week, especially when they usually eclipse Daisy's numbers most rounds.

    Daisy may run amok this weekend against the Dees but is probably more likely to be a fairly slow burn in the short to medium term. Could take him another month to crack $400K which is a pretty poor return really for the risk assumed. No doubt he will become a decent player post byes but not convinced we can wait that long.

    This move will also generate a decent dollop of coin to consider say a Langford to KK upgrade or a JKH to Lewis switch should we get some bad news at the selection table this Thursday. As well as free up some room to move should Sandi or another key premium go down in the next few weeks.

    • THE SALTSHAKER says:

      Yeah im thinking similiar, however Daisys propensity to go large is directly related to the week i trade him out haha

      • SCaddict says:

        At least it's a downgrade to a rookie so wouldn't feel quite as foolish if Daisy does tonne up this weekend which is a distinct possibility no doubt. A lot of acid on the Blues playing group to respond this weekend, very likely at the Dee's expense.

    • Rescued Pieman says:

      Daisy has landed at a very ordinary team on a great salary. Not SC relevant for me this year. Cash in I think is a good option.

      • SCaddict says:

        Yeah bit of a failed experiment. We all have players that don't quite turn out as we'd maybe hoped unless you are ranked in the top 100 I suppose ha ha.

        With the 30 trades it does give you a little more license to take some early risks and then fix up the ones that don't pan out.

    • This is a trade I have considered and could very well pay off as I have had the likes of Dunstan on the bench last weekend. However I'm willing to run with Daisy for another couple of weeks. The rate people are trading him out, keeping him turns him into a POD – wouldn't be surprised to see him tonne up this week

      • SCaddict says:

        Daisy does look like he is on the improve so those who hang on could be richly rewarded.

        However both Crouch and Kelly look to be decent rookies to get into your team for differing reasons especially when one's current midfield bench crew are averaging around a tonne themselves!

        It's going to be hard for me not to make this trade but will hang back and see what the rest of the week throws up first.

  27. SCaddict says:

    Mick I'm strongly entertaining a Daisy down to either a J.Kelly or M.Crouch deal. I have an excellent bunch of rookie mids since Rd1 with Tyson, Polec, Dunstan and Xman and their scores are wasted on the pine each week, especially when they eclipse Daisy's numbers most rounds.

    Daisy could run amok this weekend against the Dees but is probably more likely to be a fairly slow burn. Could take him another month to crack $400K which is a pretty poor return for the risk assumed. No doubt he will become a decent player post byes but not convinced we can wait that long.

    This move will also generate a decent serving of cash to consider a Langford to KK trade or a JKH to Lewis switch should we get some bad news at the selection table this Thursday. As well as free up some room to move should Sandi go down in the next few weeks.

  28. SCaddict says:

    Mick I'm strongly entertaining a Daisy down to either a J.Kelly or M.Crouch deal. I have a strong bunch of rookie mids with Tyson, Polec, Dunstan and Xman and their scores are wasted on the pine each week, especially when they eclipse Daisy's numbers most rounds.

    Daisy could run amok this weekend against the Dees but is probably more likely to be a fairly slow burn. Could take him another month to crack $400K which is a pretty poor return for the risk assumed. No doubt he will become a decent player post byes but not convinced we can wait that long.

    This move will also generate a decent serving of cash to consider a Langford to KK trade or a JKH to Lewis switch should we get some bad news at the selection table this Thursday. As well as free up some room to move should Sandi go down in the next few weeks.

  29. bloke says:

    That was meant to say form slump btw

  30. JJM says:

    Mick you madman hanging on Caddy. But I love it, I was just about to turn Caddy into Bruest. Looks like I wont be burning any trade this week.

  31. thewoodsman says:

    Thinking of just the one trade this week as I have gone BANG BANG trade wise.
    Rohan out for Merrett. Will leave around $72k. Will mean Merrett F6 Caddy F5 but JKH still on the bench with Impey. Going for overall & cash league, currently around 5500 I then happy to wait for upgrade season and ride the wave till then.

  32. throttlefinger says:

    Great advice, Mick. Holding still. Temptation to go McV or Houli to Jaensch is great. Need to hold tight and show some faith. Can't let frustrations of sub 2200 scores waste a precious trade.

    Christ, it's gonna be hard not hitting that trade button. Like sitting next to a craps table and just watching..

    • Ocker says:

      Making 2 Corrective trades this week mate.
      Look about 10 comments above, Just cooking tea I shall return.

      Cheers.

      • throttlefinger says:

        Those are strong trades, Ocker. Really like Kelly and think KK will be that cash cow that Clurey didn't turn out to be.

        • THE SALTSHAKER says:

          stick with mcveigh throtts is a keeper

          • throttlefinger says:

            Agree, Salty. Thanks, my man. Need to exercise some patience with the boys…hope they return the love R4.

        • Rescued Pieman says:

          Agreed Throttle. KK is a great Clurrey replacement! At least he will play & could be in your team for some time.

          • Rescued Pieman says:

            If I dont have KK I have to have Langford or Boy Georgio on the ground. That is painful. As neither have the potential to go big like KK could.

            • throttlefinger says:

              Yep, that is rough. Do you have the cash to swing to Langford? May be worth 1 trade. Not 2. I'd like to do that but don't have the loot to make it happen.

    • Ocker says:

      throttle, Not even thinking of trading McVeigh, I think he will be there at the end of the year.

      Cheers mate

      • throttlefinger says:

        Yep. Been a bit frustrated by McV and Houli's scores yet they will turn it around. Patience not my strong suit, Ocker. But no reason to bring anyone in. Only concerns are my bench refs Langford and CCameron not playing but still not a reason to waste a trade.

        Thanks Big O!

  33. Danners16 says:

    Josh Kelly seems like a very good player, I'm thinking about trading him in for Michie as well

  34. DJ 1985 says:

    R.shaw to b Griffiths?

  35. Matt says:

    I’m getting slightly frustrated with Kade Simpson and even more frustrated that I didn’t jump on Swallow(Also missed out on Dom Tyson *Facepalm) I believe Swallow will be in the top 10 defenders should I think about trading Simpson to Swallow. I have 100k and I’m planning to upgrade a rookie next week thoughts.

    • Simpson will be a top 10 defender too – keep the faith – look to get swallow in as the season goes on. he will have a bad game eventually and just be ready to swoop at a good price

    • matt says:

      im in the same boat, hes got melbourne this week, hoping he hits 115,if not hes up for a trade

  36. Michael says:

    I want to get rid of caddy this week. I have 91,000k in the bank but I’m happy to use 2 trades to get him out! thanks

  37. dogsfoot says:

    I have cloake and he is killing me. Also have Rohan, JKH and Mcdonut.
    What should I do.
    Thinking Cloake/Breust
    Mcdonut/ Merritt

  38. Steve says:

    Gday Boys got some serious problems, terrible start made so many errors with risky picks and now sit about 70,000 in the rankings,
    Ive gone too light in my fwds I have rohan as F4, who is an option to bring in for him? I want someone who I can set and forget and who will be consistent as buggery money no issue already have Zorko, T Mitchell, Danger,
    Also what to do with Matty Leunberger? really disappointing me but I don't want to sideways trade
    thanks guys

    • Derek says:

      Steve I feel your pain. I had Guthrie at D2 and was trying to work out how the hell he got there. Fortunately he has been replaced by Hanley. If you have Rohan at F4, i'm scared to ask who you have at F5 and F6.

      You could do a lot worse than the oldies: Chappy, Franklin, Pav, Martin, JRoo, Rioli, Petrie. All tried and tested and relatively cheap.

      If you have guts, you could wait a couple of weeks and get Petrie for under $400k.

    • pieman says:

      Fasolo

    • Azza says:

      I'd go Pav Stevo.

  39. Danners16 says:

    Hey guys, I have had a look at some players and one that no one has talked about is Stephen Coniglio. Averagign nearly 110 I think, 100 in all 3 games $430,000 is a pretty good price and a good POD as only 2000 people have him. Could it be the year of the draft of Dom Tyson and Coniglio? Thinking of trading Shuey out for him. Thoughts?
    Also thoughts on Marc Murphy, could only just hold off the tag of Hocking

    • Rescued Pieman says:

      Murph is playing Melb this week. That's a free 130 plus. Will be scarred by last week. Look for a big responce. HOLD

    • Branks says:

      Shuey will be back next week, so I'd hold. Murphy has done pretty well so far, averaging about 107, but it is clear he cannot handle a tag. If you have him, its probably best not trading him and just hoping he doesn't get tagged every week.

      • throttlefinger says:

        Agree with Branks. Both are doing solid. Plus Judd coming back should help Smurph a bit.

    • Ocker says:

      Murphy is very capable of averaging 120's like he used too. Don't be in a hurry to trade him because of one absolutely shocking Carlton performance.
      I gave Coniglio a lot of thought pre season but I don't believe he can be top 10 Gun Mids this year. The same with Wines and others I considered. They may increase in value but not as much as a good rookie and mids is where they come from.

      Cheers

    • @daveywarhol says:

      Danners, I was looking into a solid D6 and noted that two Giants players have performed well (Bugg and Hampton.) Not being a GWS fan myself, I don't know a lot about these blokes so I had a look at the stats.

      They have already played two cellar-dwellars (Saints and Dees) and Sydney in a rain affected game. In fact 2 of the 3 games were rain affected. Unfortunately for me this makes their data irrelevant, so I'm extremely reluctant to pick Treloar, Coniglio, JKelly or anyone else for that matter.

      Don't want to rain on your parade though, it's amazing what GWS have achieved already this year and would be happy to be proven wrong.

  40. THE SALTSHAKER says:

    Good article Mick my sentiments exactly

  41. cyril says:

    I'm wondering if I should use a trade or two trades on trying to get more cash cows in.

    Currently got Mcdonald, Georgio, Langford, Clurey in DEF

    M.Thomas, Tyson, Dunstan, Polec Ellis, Michie in MIDS

    Ambrose, Rohan and JHK in FORWARDS

    Is that going to be enough cash made or should I look at getting rid of Clurey for KK and Michie for a Kelly???

  42. Derek says:

    Early in the season it is easy to forget how valuable trades become later in the year. Anyone of us who have played this great game in the past will remember how we would give anything for just one more trade the week before the finals.

    The problem is that we can easily forget this in the trade frenzy at the start of a new season.

    Take a deep breath and think back to last July when you had almost run out of trades and Freo decide to rest half their midfield, what you wouldn’t give for an extra trade.

    Don’t burn trades. Be happy with the Rookies you have no side ways trades. Welcome.

    • cyril says:

      Thanks Derek, your probably right.

    • Rescued Pieman says:

      Great point Derek. No more than 4 trades used after this round if you can. All corrective or BALLSY. Unless you have massive problems. My first 8 trades last year were corrective & i had 1 to enter finals with, OUCH!

      • thewoodsman says:

        Yep upon further consideration I will sit tight and keep running Rohan or Impey at F6 for another week.
        Time for cool heads.

  43. Swans2012 says:

    I know I shouldn't be trading but…… thinking maybe r gray – Cyril this week. Gray has been going ok 110 79 79 approx but I have come to the conclusion that he's not a keeper and I feel Cyril might be. Can do this week with one trade but probably won't be able to afford it next week After Cyril's likely price wise. Thoughts? If I did it I'd have 27 trades left, currently ranked 795 and keeping the overall dream alive…..

    • Rescued Pieman says:

      Cyril has a habbit of missing chucks of the season with hammy's. Take a look at history & buyer beware. Great rank well done

    • Branks says:

      I'd do it. You gotta risk it for the biscuit.

    • MightyDonsFC says:

      Trade gray out at your peril

      • thewoodsman says:

        I have Robbie Gray also at F4. I have flirted with the idea of upgrading him to a more likely top 6 forward as I only have Danger and took a punt on JJK being there or there a bouts.
        I still see more tons and more cash. I will be keeping Gray but will reassess come the bye rounds.

        • Swans2012 says:

          Yeah I reckon I'll hold now, just got that little niggle that Cyril might let me down when I need him, Gray might average 10 less but all that would be eroded by a 1 week rest or 3 week hammy from Cyril. Plus on closer inspection Grays 79 this week was better than it looked with 24 disposals, just not goaling let him down. Anyway he lives to score another day…..

    • roger says:

      Cyril fades, i would go to bruest if you have that cash.

  44. pieman says:

    Are you talking Zack Merrett? i have the same problem!

    • Dogs says:

      Nope, Jackson merret, I have some spare cash from downgrading Barlow to swallow last week

  45. michael says:

    Hi there – ruck question. I have grundy and Sandi combo with two non-playing rucks on bench, Thurlow and King. I can afford a sideways trade – King to either Currie or Derickx, who will at least generate some $. Which of these guys has best JS?

  46. @daveywarhol says:

    Great article, Mick. Personally I am going for overall rank (currently in top 2000). I can see two positions that need to be filled ASAP, the F6 and the D6. Have decided to trade Caddy out for Dom Tyson (bringing Zorko into the fwd line) and trading out Tom Clurey for Jaensch.

    I see Jaensch purely as a D6, priced around 360k with a breakeven still in the negatives. If he does continue to score 85-90 from here on, I would be happy with that, and if he occasionally cracks the ton again, even better.

    Dom Tyson has gone up 90k, but he too has cracked the ton in all his games so far. If I can pick up a mature body for less than 300k (with breakeven still in the negs too), then I would be happy with a 80-100 score for weeks to come (rd 10 bye always helps too)

    The majority of people came in to the season with Suckling and Daisy at these prices, but with 3 weeks of data and negative breakevens, it's worth the extra 150k I have to spend now than if I got them last week.

    Gotta love supercoach, keeps my interest in footy alive while the Demons curse continues. All the best Clarky, can't believe it was only 15 games.

    • love all your thinking here. My problems lie with D5 and D6 as I've gone a little top heavy due to lack of forwards. If you are happy with Jaensch as your D6 then go for it. As I said I think he's good for that 85-90 average and is currently great value.

      great rank and best of luck with the year

  47. @daveywarhol says:

    That's the thing about Mundy, just like Priddis they always hit the ton and stop. While 100 is very handy, they are taking a spot in your MID which could be filled with someone who is capable of 130+. But if you've got 'em, you gotta stick with 'em.

  48. JOE says:

    Matty Leunberger, what to do? thanky boys

  49. Hold – both could be back this week

  50. The Ranger says:

    Hey Mick, thanks to some good advice from you and yours I've managed to break the top 2000 this week and I'm holding fast on Thomas, Caddy and Higgins for a while yet but can I get your view on rookie to rookie trading?
    Little Lincoln McCartney didn't get a game last week…..

  51. bloke says:

    What happens if Luey falls in price and becomes cheaper than NicNat? I have pretty much zero cash. His break even is something like 150 isn't it?

  52. Gold Rush says:

    Traded to fix some holes and will be trading next week also, then the brakes are on waiting for the fattening process along with a round 8 bye tweak. I believe in the Crouching philosophy – Trade ass off.

  53. Alex says:

    Can we still trade if we wanna grab Kolodjashnij before his price rise or is he to highly priced?

    • Ocker says:

      Alex, You can trade whenever you like.
      If you have a non playing rookie in defense as I do with Clurey I would be mad not to use a trade and get Kade Kolodjashnij. (In my opinion)

      Cheers.

      • Derek says:

        Thumper is a bit expensive to be a cash cow.

        I wouldn’t be surprised to see clurey get a game this week or next.

        As the year goes on there will be new cheap cash cows emerge. Fuller and Cutler are examples.

        • Josh says:

          How much will clurey make you though playing at full back though?

          Thumper although you're putting 200k into him, you are still gonna receive that and some back at a later date. clurey may only appreciate to 200k in 10 weeks so then is he worth it? I'm trading clurey out for Kolodjashnij. The more cows the better. then you are able to cull whoever you think will be best, while if you have plenty of 'good' cash cows (ie. not a clurey, rohan or jkh) then it is likely that youre gonna make cash and upgrade possibly without downgrading.

  54. David says:

    Want to trade out rohan, he's on the field and not performing. JKH and Impey on bench. I've got a couple of plans so far.
    1. trade Dale Thomas for Kelly then up Rohan to Merrett
    2. trade Mike Pyke to Mcintosh and up Rohan to Merrett
    3. trade a player like Aish/Langdon and Rohan to a cheaper forward like Fasolo or maybe Billings
    Wondering your thoughts. Also thinking of holding off on Rohan and trading Thomas to Mcrae…

  55. Ricko says:

    I'm thinking about trading

    Hodge>Suckling
    Rohan>Merrett

    Rohan and Impey are my current playing options for F6. Have used 2 trades so far.
    any imput much apprecieated

    • Derek says:

      You must be one of the few not to have Suckers.

      Hodge will probably play this week.

      If Rohan is named on field, you should keep him. He is cheap and will score points. I think he had a knock from round 2 and that is why he got the vest. I think he still is in the swans best 22

      • Ricko says:

        Cheers guys, will sleep on it .Went with Webster over suckers, bad choice.

        • mark says:

          not a bad choice, webster will gain value, suckling wont be scoring 100's week in week out and also you saved 80k going with webster

          • Derek says:

            I agree, Webster a good choice. I had him in my team since February and then everyone got on the bandwagon. Got suckling as well. Both are there to score some points but be a step to a premium

    • MightyDonsFC says:

      If you can affor jaensch I'd get him instead of suckling

  56. matt says:

    is it worth getting libba at his price now before he hits the 600k mark, at the expence of priddis( i dont like the look of priddis's low ceiling) or wait to trade up a rookie in maybe 4, 5 weeks time?

  57. lostlarrikin says:

    Choice stuff Mick!

    At around 9,000th, O/A is shot.
    Going for league which unf has 8th placed team flying out front.
    Will hold Enright but need to fix the Clurey and/or McDonut situation.

    Clurey > Laidler/KK
    McDonut > Taylor

    Thoughts?

    • throttlefinger says:

      Clurey for KK for sure. Will play. Scores will go up. Give you that cash cow you need.

      Watch the selection this week. McDonut did really well in VFL (only played a half but kicked ass from what I read). May be worth keeping. Taylor is doing OK. Make sure you aren't throwing a trade away for a bench player.

      My 2 cents. Mighty LL.

    • Captain joc says:

      Mate your in the top 10k you’ve still got a chance of getting the overall

      • lostlarrikin says:

        Thnx guys,
        Yeah O/A is prob still mathematically possible, but needs all guns and rooks firing.
        At the mo I have Enright, Wingard, Ambrose under clouds plus Titch and Zorko below par.
        Throw in the mix, Impey as F6 and Langford/Georgio D6.

        If injury gods are kind this wk, will consider just the KK trade and hold on McDonut.

        • Sarah says:

          Titch and Zorko had one bad game and you consider them below par… Harsh!

          • lostlarrikin says:

            Yeah im sure they wont take it to heart.
            tbh – I was really only referring to their last round, certainly not looking to move them on

            in any case, looks like the gods have smote me with Enright, Wingard and Ambrose all likely to miss another week.

            Not keen to waste trades on moving these guys out but Enright has me worried.

  58. nick says:

    hi guys,
    What do u think of this trade:
    caddy-fasolo
    tom mitchel -luke prker/ luke bruest?
    Thoughts please

    • MightyDonsFC says:

      Don't do it

    • Gold Rush says:

      Why do the Fasolo trade this week? His price will not change after the Richmond game and if he gets injured you've potentially burned a trade.

      I've got Mitchel also and I'm holding on – barring Injury of course.

    • Ocker says:

      nick, If that is the worst of your problems I would save the trades this week.
      Trades are gold. Don't waste them.

      Cheers.

    • SCaddict says:

      Don't get seduced by Parker's 4 goals which allowed him to get that 131. As a Swans member I rarely see him doing that. Titch just had a bad game that was exacerbated by a red vesting in the 3rd qtr but will very likely bounce back sooner rather than later.

      In fact Titch outscored him in the first two games and it's always dangerous to make decisions based on just 1 game given the up and down nature of Supercoach scores.

      Breust has got off to a great start but not confident he will finish a top 8 forward over 23 rounds. Not worth moving heaven and earth for imho.

      I'd give Caddy another run around and then you can always move him on for Fasolo next week if you still like the idea.

    • GarglesnarfFC says:

      I agree with everyone else. Hold

    • roger says:

      Hold onto mitchell, not worth the trade. Bruest has made a fast start but not neccessarily a 120 man every week i think. T.Mitchell is a gun

  59. matt says:

    wondering who to trade out and in to my team,

    Trade worthy players
    Backs; simpson, georgiou, suckling, langford

    Mids: templeton, priddis, polec,

    Forwards: Mitchel, martin, Rohan, JKH

    • Derek says:

      Show us your team

    • SCaddict says:

      Out of that lot I would only contemplate dumping Langford, Rohan or JKH.

      Either Taylor or Impey look pretty good options for JKH or Rohan. If Langford gets dropped this weekend then I would move him on too – for KK if you can afford him.

      No way on earth would I ditch any of those premos or Suckling. I have Titch too but would only consider switching him if he was injured or omitted and even then would have to weigh up the precise situation. Just had a poor week.

    • SCaddict says:

      Out of that lot I would only contemplate dumping Langford, Rohan or JKH.

      Either Taylor or Impey look pretty good options for JKH or Rohan. If Langford gets dropped this weekend then I would move him too – for KK if you can afford him.

      No way on earth would I ditch any of those premos or Suckling. I have Titch too but would only consider switching him if he was injured or omitted and even then would have to weigh up the precise situation.

    • Ocker says:

      I totally agree with SCaddict on this one.
      You chose Priddis for a reason, Stick with your original decision and don't waste trades.

      Cheers.

  60. Kenny Powers says:

    What to do with the lame duck Dane Swan? Looks slow, very slow .. injured or has he simply lost a yard? Big cash loss already – hold him with the hope he comes good and doesn't bleed too much more with another poor performance or trade up to one of either Gablett, Dependlebury or Selwood?

    • Trade up – all those names will be in the top 5 players in the comp come the years end – bit the bullet now

    • SCaddict says:

      Not much fun when one of your expensive elites is spudding it up.

      The rest of us can lick our lips as we see his price plummet each week but I reckon you have to stem the bleeding right now and do the loathe sideways trade before he leaks too much more cash.

      Just have to hope he doesn't turn it around this weekend with a 150 but he's really left you with little choice. Though you could see it as a good opportunity to get in the Little Master even though it will cost you $140K to do so.

      • Kenny Powers says:

        Thanks fellas .. buckshot loaded!!

      • vinnymac says:

        I've got the same problem – will Swan remain a spud, or will he start to improve from here on out? Richmond seems to be the right team for Swan to despud!

  61. matt says:

    i was thinking of trading priddos to libba, dont think priddis will be in the top 12 mids at season and end and libba will, yeah and ive got both impey and taylor also cant afford kk

    • SCaddict says:

      As per Mad Mick's advice I'd be very wary of sideways trading of premos unless you are dealing with an injury. You also have to be careful not to chase last week's points as the fantasy footy gods generally do not reward avarice or envy.

      So I would hang on to Pridda for now and perhaps wait for an elite like Swanny or Griffen to regain some form and bottom out in pricing. Both guys could be available for around $500K in a few more weeks which would be unbelievable value assuming they can get back their A game of course. Much like getting a Dayne Beams from the bargain bin that we all have in our sides.

      If you have say Taylor in your middle you could swing him forward and get rid of Rohan or JKH and bring say a Matty Crouch into your midfield bench. However I'd wait until he's played two games and is thus 'on the bubble' before doing that.

      Otherwise I'd just sit tight a few weeks and conserve your trades. You'll more than likely be happy that you did later in the season.

      • Derek says:

        Dimawitts, last years winner had Cotchin and Kennedy in team from start. Neither had a great 2013 but he kept them.

  62. cyril says:

    I can see swan losing more value before going up again. Looks underdone and hence not playing enough in the midfield

  63. Shane says:

    Hey guys. Is it worth trading shiels to Matt Crouch and upgrading Scott Selwood to Ablett? Thoughts please

    • Derek says:

      Ablett has the Hawks this week, but it is at home. After that the Suns have a great run of games. Melb, GWS, kangas, Bye, saints, dogs, crows.

      There are a few big scores in that lot

    • SCaddict says:

      In a word "YES!"

      Would normally be highly hesitant to recommend sideways trading of premos but this really is more of an upgrade scenario with all due respect to Scooter.

      Gaz is averaging nearly 150 in the first 3 rounds which is nothing new from him either. And he's not showing any signs of slowing down any time soon. If you don't have him it's likely you will be at a competitive disadvantage to the rest of the of the competition, unless your mids are loaded to the hilt with blokes like Pendles, Watto, Rocky, Jelwood, Cotch and Libba.

      With a relatively piddly BE of 90 Gazza is only likely to be more expensive next week. Scooter has been ok but hasn't even averaged a tonne against frankly fairly weak opposition that the Eagles faced in the first 3 rounds. Needs 121 just to break even in price at the Cattery this weekend.

      You could wait til his bye but the damage could already be done to your ranking and league positioning by time Rd9 rolls by.

  64. The swine says:

    Got heaps of cash and don’t trust tom mitchell. Was looking at trading him in for rioli or breust. Should I keep him, get one or those two, or get someone else. Already have dangerfeild, caddy, higgins, wright plus rookies

    • SCaddict says:

      I have him too and have no qualms about holding on to him. Was averaging 95 whilst the Swans were struggling but had one poor week. I'm sure he more than anyone realised that and will be looking to redeem himself against the Kangas.

      If you trade him out there's a decent chance he will bang out a 130 and you will be kicking yourself. Breust or Rioli could dish up a 50 for all you know. Nobody thought Zorko would spit out a 46 just 7 days ago!

      • Rocksta says:

        I've got him too SC, but I'm a bit like the swine and am worried about him.
        The main reason is that he played predominantly up forward on the weekend.
        I'm going to hold, but was very tempted to sideways him into Buddy.
        Buddy looked like he'd slimed down a bit on the weekend and played a ripping game.
        Ill give him another week but if he stinks it up again and plays predominantly forward, may have to go the dreaded sideways trade.

    • Daniel says:

      Of the 2 hawks, if your going to take the risk of a sideways trade, then I'd go Bruest. Due to breakout i reckon. Less injury risk than Cyril. Sydney are a great team and when their form comes good, so should mitchell's.

  65. Azza says:

    I have to have one of Taylor, impey or JKH on the field in my FWDs, and one of Langdon. Georgio and Langford on the field in my backline. It is killing my scores but just don't have the cash to trade any (only $36.5k in the bank). FWDs are the main problem. Like Mick, I am holding onto to Daisy as he is becoming a POD and I still can't justify trading him for Tyson. Might just hold and handle the pain.

    • Derek says:

      You are not alone, I have same. Just hold and do the best you can, hopefully we will make the right choices until we can upgrade

    • Rocksta says:

      I'm a Daisy fan Azza, but one thing was Glaringly obvious on Sunday night…………………….He looks like a fish out of water when he has to get his own ball.
      At Collingwood, he had Guns getting it out to him, and he could work his magic outside. At Carlton, the best inside mid is injured ( Judd), the second best is underdone ( Carrazzo), and the third is Soft ( Smurfett went to water with the Hocking hard tag – Hocking even had a blinder running off him the other way).
      Because of this, I've changed my view on him and now honestly think he isn't going to scale any great heights there this season. I'd go Daisy to MacCrae – the kid is a gun

      • SCaddict says:

        All fair points Rocksta. The Daisy Dilemma!

        Daisy is likely trade bait for me too this week. Though rather than trading him out for another midpricer I'll personally be downgrading to a rookie cash cow instead. Cash will come in handy for tweaking a couple of my other lines.

        Macrae does look fantastic right now and a good chance of tonneing up again versus the Giants this weekend. Certainly wouldn't blame anyone for bringing him in.

        • Rocksta says:

          FaIr call SC.
          I don't like sideways trades but Macrae looked like a fantastic player on the weekend……… It was more than him just having a good game.
          That said, is he a keeper…………………….Probably not. Thus, your option is better………down to a Josh Kelly perhaps.

  66. Maenads says:

    Didn't consider swan at all this year. I am going to the say it………….he is gone. SC donkey.
    Obituary: Thank you Dane for the memories. You have moved on, so have some in the community. Good luck as a forward.

    • Rocksta says:

      He cannot run and is clearly carrying a serious groin injury (OP?).
      They a difficult injuries to overcome and as much as I hate to say it, I agree with you for this year.
      His only chance is if he Pies give him an extended break……….say last 2 games leading into the R8 bye.
      That way, he will only miss 2 games but get 4 weeks rest

    • SCaddict says:

      A bit early for me to write him off just yet. Could in fact become one of the bargain buys of the season when it's all said and done though have to agree that there are some troubling signs right at the minute.

    • throttlefinger says:

      The game this week will tell a lot about Swanny. Usually kills it against the Tigers. See how he does.

      Feel that will give good insight whether he is worth picking up at bargain basement post byes or is a sinking SC ship.

    • Kenny Powers says:

      The trouble with Swan has been that even when he gets the ball he is having to rush his disposals which is ruining his efficiency. No goals, no tackles and hasn't been able to hold a mark .. serious issues for the Waddler!

  67. Hi community.
    Love the page but need some urgent help. I have three major problems with my team, the Sydney boys Rhyce Shaw and Rohan, and also Michie with a broken jaw…
    So I am thinking either:
    Shaw to Jaensch and Rohan to Ambrose (leaving Michie on the bench for now)
    OR
    Michie to Kelly and Rohan to Ambrose (leaving Shaw on my field)
    Any advice or suggestions would be great.

  68. Bob McBob says:

    What is everybody's thoughts on Cale Hooker? Potential POD?

    • Branks says:

      Don't think he will continue his good run of scores Bob. Hooker has never averaged over 80 in a season.

    • SCaddict says:

      Good if you have him already but wouldn't be making him a trade in priority myself.

  69. Rocksta says:

    Must make 1 trade this week.
    Currently have Langford on field in the backline, with LMac on the mid bench. Am thus trading out Clay Cameron from Def bench, subbing LMac into the Def and bringing in Josh Kelly into the midfield.
    That way, Langford will be on my Def bench, and will also be bringing a high scoring rookie on the bubble.
    Still hurting in the forward line as turned Higgins into Ambrose last week on field, with Impey and JKH on the bench.
    I understand Ambrose is out again this week and as such will have to run the Gauntlet of having either Impey or JKH on field as my F6. Worst case, ill turn one of them into Fas next week. ( another week with only 1 trade).
    Thoughts Community?

    • throttlefinger says:

      In somewhat similar situation, Rocksta. Langford and CCameron are on my def bench. Tempting to bring in Thumper for Cameron, who still has a sub 0 BE despite his craptacular 32.

      For me I'm only going to considering using a trade if Cameron doesn't make the field and feel he won't in the coming weeks. Otherwise I'm going to save the trade.

      Think in your case doing what you need to bring Kelly will help bring some potential cash cows in KK and JK. And get a scoring boost in your backline in McD.

      Hope that helps, Rocksta.

      • Rocksta says:

        Thanks.
        Could also simply turn Cameron into KK, and leave LMac on the mid bench.
        In that case though, I'd have to forgo Kelly .
        Either way, I must make one trade as simply will not run with Langford or Cameron as my D6 again this week.
        That, coupled with the late withdrawal of Ambrose ( exposing Impey to F6) made me lose my league match against our back to back league champ of the past 2 seasons ( lost by 50 odd) on the weekend.

        • throttlefinger says:

          Who are your rookie mids? Do you need another? Can you wait a week for Crouch?

          Agree you can't have either of those two as your D6. That would be priority A1, Rocksta.

          • Rocksta says:

            I've got Polec, Dunstan, Ellis on the field, with LMac and Crouch on the bench.
            Yes, overkill bringing in Kelly, but I just think he will make more money than KK.
            That trade will also leave me with Langdon and LMac as D5/6, with Langford on the def bench.
            Apart from bringing in Fas next week at F6, I'm not going to trade again until after R8 Bye ( famous last words).
            As such, I want to insure I have the best Rookies in the team so as to cash in come R8,R9,R10.

            Thoughts?

            • Ocker says:

              Not overkill Rocksta. I have 6 rookie mids making cash for bye upgrades.
              Maybe a forward upgrade before bye's.
              Smart Trading.

              Cheers.

            • throttlefinger says:

              Sounds like a sound plan, my man. This round and next.

              Well done.

              • Rocksta says:

                Thanks Throttle?
                I'm sure the SC gods will have something to say about it though.

                Over and out for this evening lads…………………time for some shut eye.

        • Kenny Powers says:

          Impey looks like being the Jake Neade of last season for Port .. regular gig on field but nothing huge in points and a long wait for cash. Again like Neade, he may not get vested as Port seem to be using a bigger, stonger running type player in that role.

    • Ocker says:

      Think that is a good move Rocksta, I am Getting Kelly in a similar way using Taylor to go forward. But not expecting huge scores about 80 average would be nice.

      Having second thoughts on CollarJazzKnee, Was going Clurey to him but Langford's job security is starting to be a bit of a worry for me. May keep Clurey for loop hole at the cheaper price.
      KK Also round 8 bye bugger. But could be a keeper.
      Mick Mad Irish thinks he is too dear. But then again the last time I was in Ireland they still had stop signs at the top of step ladders.

      Confused

      • Rocksta says:

        Lol.
        Look out for the teams though Ocker as Sewell has reinjured himself in the reserves.
        That can only help Langfords JS for a few more weeks.
        Although he doesn't score well, will still appreciate and you may be able to cash him in for a Fuller in a few weeks ( If Fuller ever plays that is).

        • Ocker says:

          Cheers mate always do.

          • Rocksta says:

            Thanks Ocker.
            Running a bit of a different strategy this year ( league win wise).
            I'm usually fast out of the blocks, but don't have enough cash cows nor let them mature enough before pressing the 'T' button. As a consequence, run out of trades usually first week of finals and am unlucky with Injuries.
            Will upgrade Impey to Fas next week ( F6), leaving Ambrose as my F7.
            After that, will buy a straight jacket and wear it at all times when in the vicinity of a PC, Tablet, Smartphone etc etc for 3 weeks.

            • Ocker says:

              Ha Ha Sounds like you throttle and myself have the same problem.
              We should form SC Anonymous.
              My strategy this year is to win the big one so I am going to ask my brother to hide my mouse.
              Not worried about league wins but won all five this week.

              Cheers.

      • Kenny Powers says:

        Talk over the weekend was that Hawthorn would ease Langford out sooner rather than later as he hasn't quite come to grips with the level required for consistent AFL output.

  70. tysb says:

    1. Hanley, P
    $480,700118103.33MIDBRLSCV
    2. Jaensch, M
    $364,80096101.33ADESCV
    3. McVeigh, J
    $505,2008385.00MIDSYDSCV
    4. McDonald, L
    $231,80010176.00MIDNTHSCV
    5. Mitchell, S
    $521,80012194.50MIDHAWSCV
    6. Laidler, J
    $167,2006057.50SYDSCV
    23. Georgiou, A
    $143,4002953.33MELSE
    24. Fuller, M
    $112,80000.00WBDSE
    Midfielders
    7. Watson, J
    $558,90096123.00ESSSCV
    8. Pendlebury, S
    $615,50094122.67COLSCV
    9. Ablett, G
    $622,500146122.33GCSSCV
    10. Beams, D
    $508,10087107.33COLSCV
    11. Dunstan, L
    $223,20011397.00STKSCV
    12. Shiels, L
    $382,7009996.33HAWSCV
    13. Tyson, D
    $312,5006296.33MELSCV
    14. Polec, J
    $222,6006273.67PTASCV
    25. Crouch, M
    $112,8006969.00ADESE
    26. Robertson, N
    $112,80000.00BRLSE
    Rucks
    15. Sandilands, A
    $332,20086100.00FRESCV
    16. Jacobs, S
    $427,00010994.67ADESCV
    27. Currie, D
    $119,2004346.00NTHSE
    28. Thurlow, F
    $114,50000.00FWDESSSE
    Forwards
    17. Merrett, J
    $351,100131112.00ESSSCV
    18. Zorko, D
    $421,2005994.00MIDBRLSCV
    19. Martin, D
    $506,7007688.33MIDRICSCV
    20. Higgins, S
    $303,3009577.33WBDSCV
    21. Dangerfield, P
    $498,0008377.00MIDADESCV
    22. Rohan, G
    $188,7003144.33SYDSCV
    29. Kennedy-Harris, J
    $121,4002329.00MELSE
    30. Honeychurch, M
    $112,800

    I have got $346,100 left and already traded in merret and Jaensch
    Thoughts on my team?
    Cheers Ty

    • GarglesnarfFC says:

      You have a solid team and plenty of cash in the bank. Your only issue is having guys like Fuller, Honeychurch & Robertson who aren't going to make you any cash early, meaning you can't upgrade to full premium as fast as you might like, and you are stuck with Rohan F6 as a result.

  71. The colonel says:

    Any thoughts on derickx for r4? Considering to bring in this week, but unsure of job security with a few key swans due back in a couple of weeks. Thoughts?

    • Rocksta says:

      Hi Colonel.
      I've got him, but with Tippett coming back over the next 2 weeks, I definitely wouldn't consider bringing him in.
      The Swans forward line simply isn't big enough for Buddy, Tippett and Reid to play as 3 key forwards.
      Tippett is 203 cms and as such taller than most R1's.
      Also, Derricks hasn't been setting the world on fire.

    • SCaddict says:

      Yeah Colonel as Rocksta said not really worth bringing in for those who don't already have him.

      Hasn't exactly set the world on fire with a 46 average and JS is definitely on the iffy side.

      Although you may miss out on a little bit of cash you will conserve a trade and be able to continue to utilise the R4 for captain's loophole purposes most weekends.

    • canman1306 says:

      Waste of Trade

  72. Rocksta says:

    Thoughts on Langfords Job Security?
    I noticed in an article today that Sewell has reinjured himself and may be out for a further few weeks.
    As such, I would have thought they'd still keep him in the team as a hard tagger freeing up the likes of Shiels and Hodge.
    He's never going to score that well but may still be bench cover for a few weeks whilst still appreciating in value marginally.
    Hopefully in 3 weeks, we can turn him into the likes of Fuller/Cutler ( if they ever get a game that is).

    • SCaddict says:

      Would certainly hold on to him if he's on your bench.

      I've gone ultra light on with my backline this season so have to play him onfield which is definitely wearing a little thin on me right now.

      But if he's bench cover then you're laughing and wouldn't burn a trade unless it looks like he has been permanently dropped. With the Sewell injury that can only improve his JS as you say.

    • Ocker says:

      You read my mind Rocksta was just thinking the same question.
      Answered your last question with the same.

      Cheers.

      • Derek says:

        Langford is ahead of a few other boys at hawthorn. Keep him.

        Will he get Ablett this week?

    • Beady Eye says:

      Agreed on the points you made, however Sewell is just one of a number of players that will be coming back into the Hawthorn team in weeks to come.

      Maybe he's the most direct competition for Langford's spot, but they also have to fit Lake, Stratton and Schoenmakers into their defence, which could see someone like Suckling moved from defence up into the midfield.

    • roger says:

      I had the same questions. Concerned about langfords job security, although i think he would get the call over most of the 3rd tier players at hawthorn. Hopefully he continues until sewell comes back, then i can look to upgrade/downgrade. In any case, not wasting a trade on that for the moment.

  73. @beerpara says:

    I’m thinking it might be best to upgrade the midpricers as soon as possible. I went burn man Higgins to Zorko last week and I’m thinking Rohan to Ambrose and Caddy to the orange roughie in a week or so. Agree?

    • SCaddict says:

      Yeah I did similar though went Caddy to Zorko instead as I plan to keep Higgins for a while yet. Was feeling a little off colour when Zorko delivered a 46, though no doubt was impacted by the hard knock he sustained early, though the edge was taken off when Caddy spudded it up again with a 53, with no such excuse.

      Still feel Higgo has some decent price appreciation left to go. The Doggies get some easier games coming up with the Giants, Crows and Blues. He's still acclimatising to playing regular senior football again.

      He looked certain to tonne up at half time last weekend but his stats dried up during the Tiger fight back in the 2nd half. Wouldn't be rushing him out the door just yet.

      • Rocksta says:

        I agree SC.
        I also went Caddy to Zorks last week, but found the money by going Higgins to Ambrose.
        Really wish I had have downgraded elsewhere. Higgins has shown some really good signs this year and will only improve.

  74. Adam says:

    my Fwd line is a mess

    I have impey, rohan, and JKHARRIS at FWD 4,5 and 6(car thy and ambrose)

    Should I go car thy to Merritt? I think rohan is a keeper as he will actually play, unlike carthy

    thoughts?

    • tye says:

      Was contemplating Merritt myself, if u don’t think carthy will play I would go it

    • Beady Eye says:

      Rohan might play regularly, but he's not much value to you if he's scoring 30 points a week.

    • vinnymac says:

      Rohan and JKH will likely hover around their starting price for a while, I would say wait one more week for the rookies to gain cash, then out they go!

    • mattise says:

      maybe trade a mid down and stregnthen your forward line,

  75. GarglesnarfFC says:

    McCarthy played well in the VFL according to sportal.com.au and will be in line for selection this week. If he plays he is a better earning & scoring prospect than Rohan, but you are right at least one of those needs to go so you only have one rookie on the field.

  76. Michael says:

    Hi Community,

    Thinking of going both trades this week, one a rookie correction, the other a midpricer to rookie:

    Rohan – Taylor
    Daisy – Kelly

    Also frees up some cash so now have $193K in the warchest.

    What do you think – good trade, bad trade or don't trade?

    • Beady Eye says:

      I like it. Getting Rohan out of your team should be a priority.

    • SCaddict says:

      Vey likely to be my trades this week Michael although I already got rid of Rohan last week and plan to ditch JKH instead.

      I'm also still considering Crouch although I think Kelly has the significantly better JS and ceiling though $100K more.

      May also bring in KK instead of Lewis if Langford gets dropped. But I expect to burn both trades this week and then my team should be set for the next 3-4 weeks barring injury.

  77. tye says:

    I didn’t realise michie was out for 4-6 so wondering if I should trade him out for a dunstan or other rookie as it only cost $60k, or is there better possible premiums out there. Thoughts

  78. Tommykwr says:

    What are everybody's thoughts on trading in treloar this week
    Mids are
    Ablett, Liberatore, beams, Cotchin, macrae, Tyson, polec, Ellis (Dunstan, aish)
    Thinking about trading but don't know who to get rid of

    • Sarah says:

      Too soon. You've got a strong midfield and he's just as likely to score 75 this week.
      You've got the right rookies. Just hold for now. If you still want Treloar when the cash cows are ripe for trading then go for it, but right now it's too soon.

    • GarglesnarfFC says:

      Hold

  79. mick says:

    IS THIS A GOOD IDEA GENERATE SOME CASH AS I ONLY HAVE 3000 DOWNGRADE MUNDY TO A MID PRICED AND USE THE CASH TO UPGRADE CADDY TO BREUST ANY ADVICE PLEASE GOING 4 OVERALL CURRENTLY 2600 POSSY OR WAIT AND HOLD

  80. mick says:

    BACKS MCVEIGH SIMPSON JANESCH SUCKLING LANGDON LANGFORD GEORGIO CLUREY MIDS ABLETT WATSON BEAMS SELLWOOD DUNSTUN POLEC ELLIS CUNNINGHAM MUNDY WANGANEEN RUCKS SANDI MUMMY CURRIE KING FWDS DANGER BUDDY MITCHELL ZORKO MARTIN CADDY JKHARRIS IMPEY USED 2 TRADES WHAT NEXT PLEASE ADVISE

    • Beady Eye says:

      NOT SURE WHY YOU DON'T HAVE MCDONALD IN YOUR BACKLINE MAYBE GET HIM IN FOR ONE OF YOUR LAST THREE ROOKIE DEFENDERS EVEN THOUGH HE HAS RISEN IN PRICE HE HAS GREAT JOB SECURITY AND YOUR OTHER ROOKIES DON'T

    • GarglesnarfFC says:

      Wanganeen is a dead mid rookie, I would consider trading him out for Crouch, or KK via a swingman.

  81. Derek says:

    Does anyone know how far away is Zac Smith?

  82. BCHawks says:

    Who should I trade Hurn for McVeigh/Hanly?

    • Matty says:

      Hanley
      Played against top 4 opposition(Geelong,hawks) still averaged a ton against them, with a softer his scores will be even higher, and 125+ against Gold Coast, will be better in my opinion,

    • GarglesnarfFC says:

      Hanley. McVeigh is coming down in price and should be an upgrade target in 2 weeks.

  83. Josh says:

    Does wingard have an injury?

    • Kenny Powers says:

      Has injured his ankle .. local TV – radio chat has him as reasonable chance to come up this week. Pretty sure they will name him in their initial squad but you'll more than likely need to wait for pre-game announcements to get a certain answer.

    • Kenny Powers says:

      delete previous comment .. just read Wingard OUT this week

  84. mick says:

    THANKS MATTY I WAS GOING TO TRADE DOWN TO MCRAE THEN CADDY 4 BREUST

    • Matty says:

      Still reckon caddy has money to be made, but Breuer is looking like takings he next step and becoming premium, had a high ceiling too

  85. tysb says:

    1. Hanley, P
    $480,700118103.33MIDBRLSCV
    2. Jaensch, M
    $364,80096101.33ADESCV
    3. McVeigh, J
    $505,2008385.00MIDSYDSCV
    4. McDonald, L
    $231,80010176.00MIDNTHSCV
    5. Mitchell, S
    $521,80012194.50MIDHAWSCV
    6. Laidler, J
    $167,2006057.50SYDSCV
    23. Georgiou, A
    $143,4002953.33MELSE
    24. Fuller, M
    $112,80000.00WBDSE
    Midfielders
    7. Watson, J
    $558,90096123.00ESSSCV
    8. Pendlebury, S
    $615,50094122.67COLSCV
    9. Ablett, G
    $622,500146122.33GCSSCV
    10. Beams, D
    $508,10087107.33COLSCV
    11. Dunstan, L
    $223,20011397.00STKSCV
    12. Shiels, L
    $382,7009996.33HAWSCV
    13. Tyson, D
    $312,5006296.33MELSCV
    14. Polec, J
    $222,6006273.67PTASCV
    25. Crouch, M
    $112,8006969.00ADESE
    26. Robertson, N
    $112,80000.00BRLSE
    Rucks
    15. Sandilands, A
    $332,20086100.00FRESCV
    16. Jacobs, S
    $427,00010994.67ADESCV
    27. Currie, D
    $119,2004346.00NTHSE
    28. Thurlow, F
    $114,50000.00FWDESSSE
    Forwards
    17. Merrett, J
    $351,100131112.00ESSSCV
    18. Zorko, D
    $421,2005994.00MIDBRLSCV
    19. Martin, D
    $506,7007688.33MIDRICSCV
    20. Higgins, S
    $303,3009577.33WBDSCV
    21. Dangerfield, P
    $498,0008377.00MIDADESCV
    22. Rohan, G
    $188,7003144.33SYDSCV
    29. Kennedy-Harris, J
    $121,4002329.00MELSE
    30. Honeychurch, M
    $112,800

    I have got $346,100 left and already traded in merret and Jaensch
    Should I trade some one else out or in? Let me know?
    Thoughts on my team?
    Cheers Ty

  86. Aaron says:

    What do you guys think of O'Keefe in a few weeks? Has a high B/E and could be under 400K just in time for the byes.

  87. Mebois says:

    Any news on enright?

  88. Matty says:

    Redden from Brisbane ?

    Looks a very good POD in defense, play both Brisbane and Geelong and still managed to score at a premium rate, someone who I’m definitely considering, also averaging 9+ tackles which is gold for supercoach, I see him keeping this up for most of the season

    Anyone else

  89. Shaun says:

    G’day guys, need to get rid of R.Shaw!! Best downgrade option??

    • BeagzBoyz says:

      Laidler, will go up 50k next week and is 130k cheaper than shaw, 180k from the trade.

      Also not putting out bad scores

    • SCaddict says:

      Laidler is not a bad selection but JS is not assured. Already been omitted once this season. Swans still have Tippett, Goodes, Bird and Reid to return so some folk are going to get to get pushed out and Laidler is one of those candidates.

      However he may be ok for the next few weeks whilst these stars are still sidelined. KK although a bit more expensive probably has better medium term JS and a higher ceiling. Had 24 touches and 83% DE. 5 clangers hurt his final score though so hopefully he can tidy that up.

  90. rosco_peco says:

    Hi folks,

    Concerned with my backline at the moment, with McDonald, Laidler, Kolodashnij, Langdon, and Langford = 3 fielding rookies and feel my scores are suffering because of it. Wasn't looking to trade this week but feel it may be necessary. Only have $54K in the bank so will likely need to 2 trades to make it worthwhile, but don't like that idea either.

    Midfield is currently Pendlebury, Beams, Cotchin, Rockliff, Daisy Thomas, Tyson, Dunstan, Ellis, Polec, Cunningham. Holding Caddy, Z. Merrett, and JHK as F6, 7, & 8.

    Any suggestions?

  91. michael says:

    having 140k in the bank

    option 1: watts to merret
    shiels to pearce, leaving me a a def/mid in the midfield
    allowing me to swing players through

    Option 2: kennedy to selwood

  92. Sarah says:

    Wingard has just given me a headache. What to do?
    Currently ranked 1970 so if I want to stay there I can't really afford to sub him for Lewis Taylor but I don't want to burn a trade.
    I need some panadol…

    • mick says:

      dont trade but if u have to breust same bye round

      • Sarah says:

        Good advice. Thanks Mick. Might end up holding him. Need more info on his injury before I decide. Held onto Sam Mitchell and that turned out to be the right move.

    • gesture says:

      If you want to trade everytime a top player has 3 bad games you will be out of trades very quickly. Its amazing how many people sideways trades when theyre in the top 1000 round 10 then end up 20000+ by end of the year.

      I went from 20000 up to top 1500 last year in the last 5 weeks. Didnt want to be 20000 in the first place but was away and unable to change team for 4 weeks.

      My mate is in the top 80 and HAS NOT used 1 trade yet!!!!!! Thats all luck. But top 80- 30 trades left and he's already eyeing danger, martin, mc veigh, bartel, swan, and minson to complete his team with evry rookie fattening up. All you others looking to burn trades on Wingard??? Wingard??? Dont have much chance of finishing top 1000 if those are the trades youre going to make. what a waste. Seem most of you still dont understand rookies and prems trades. Top 1970 means nothing now if youre 20000 in 12 weeks time

      • Sarah says:

        Well my respect for your comments just went down the drain.
        Wingard is injured you twit or I certainly wouldn't be considering trading him.

        • spacerocket says:

          The dude just made a statement. Who you calling a twit? get over yourself mate. And seems he was replying to mick who suggested a possible bruest trade and not to you Sarah twit. Bit touchy or having a bad time of the month…. regarding injuries LOL. take the panadols and toughen up and no need to be nasty whether you are a sarah or a mr sarah.

          • Sarah says:

            There's no need for sexist comments on this forum. I didn't realise it was a boys club.
            I was after an opinion, not a tyranical rant about trading out a premium based on form. Wingard has an ankle injury, not a form issue. If you're going to comment make it relevant.

            • Blueprime says:

              Hold Wingard, Sarah. He will probably be back next week scoring plenty for your team. Don't waste a trade that you are sure to need later. If Jock sees your post you know he will certainly tell you that this is NOT a boys club but a forum for all. Sexism and downright rudeness is most assuredly not the norm on this site.

    • Ocker says:

      Sarah, That is a very good question and admire your ranking.
      People should put a lot more care into answering the original question instead of answering comments and making irrelevant statements within a question.
      I would appreciate if you have one of those microphone things to ask Jock because he has the same problem.
      Jock traded Franklin to Wingard last week. (Whoops)

      Settle down people.

      Cheers,
      (Ocker's Options and Opinions)

      • Sarah says:

        Haha, that's why we don't do sideways trades unless there's an injury!!! Jock broke the cardinal rule of supercoach!!!
        Thanks for the support Ocker. I admit I did get a little frustrated that the comment was completely irrelevant to my query. Don't have a microphone thing unfortunately but I hope he discusses it.

    • Ocker says:

      My opinion is hold, He should only be out one week.

      Cheers.

  93. wes says:

    Levi Greenwood was under priced at start of season – thoughts on him now please??

  94. samuel 1010 says:

    BACKS:
    Swallow
    Jaensch
    Mitchel
    simpson
    Hanley
    Mcdonald

    georgiou
    Webster

    MIDS:
    Ablett
    Prestia
    Beams
    Murphy
    Tyson
    Kennedy
    Dunstan
    Polec

    Langdon
    Crouch

    RUCKS
    Sandilands
    Hickey

    Thurlow
    King

    FORWARDS
    Martin
    Zorko
    Roughhead
    Mitchell
    Merrett
    Kennedy harris

    Impey
    Rohan!

    thoughts on my team

    • Derek says:

      Great team. What are your plans with Murphy, keep?

      • samuel 1010 says:

        cheers, had dunstan on bench last week :(,
        keep murphy hopefully all year hopefully, should average about 115 this year, forget last year, was a little off becuase of bump he had, but this year should come back flying, only 80 last week from a terrible outfit wasnt too bad

  95. gesture says:

    ouch. looking like dangerfield out for a while. chapman missing this week. walters out for rest of year. and the carnage is starting again

  96. haydyn says:

    traded priddis out for mcrae, and rohan out for merrett ?
    good
    Bad?

    • rosco_peco says:

      Priddis is super consistent this year, without seeing the rest of your mids, I'd say bad move. Rohan to Merrett is sound if you have the cash.

      • haydyn says:

        i know priddis is consistent, but ive got no cash coming from my forwards and priddis is the only one im considering trading, mcare should score an average of about 90-100 to the byes them trade him up to a premium

  97. Pat says:

    What to do with swan?

  98. Jimmy says:

    What’s up with Danger?

  99. gesture says:

    danger has an ankle issue. will probably be named thursday but will do test on game day. bit like enright and mitchell week before

  100. Silly billy says:

    Is wright to rioli a sideways trade? Have always had the intension of getting rioli and have ambrose/ Rohan/ jkh in forward line as well. Probably should trade one of them instead I know. But may take the risk to have the player I want. Please talk some sense into me.

    • Beady Eye says:

      Wright is a risky midpricer, Rioli is a premium that comes with his own (injury) risk.

      Unless a Rioli rise takes him out of your price range, I'd give it another week to assess. Wright has St Kilda and GWS in his next two; Cyril has Gold Coast, who he's only played once for 85 (and that was two years ago when they were rubbish).

  101. gesture says:

    Everyone upgrading mid pricers now are losing money you cant get back. Most rooks make cash- even if slowly. Plus you cant trade all the rooks at once so who cares if their fattening gets staggered. But if you trade caddy to a prem you have lost potential money AND lost a trade. Only downgrade those players for rookies so minimum you make cash. Cant believe people are moving on Dthomas, caddys etc. Must be their first year playing SC

    The first trades im making other than injuries is 2-3 weeks is 2 fat rookies for 1 prem and 1 rookie. easy. shake my head to anyone has has already wasted even one sideways without injury. Have you written a roadmap of all the trades you intend to make in the next 10 weeks? maybe no

    • Beady Eye says:

      Agree with someone like Daisy, who's shown he score at a premium rate and could get back to that, but not so much on Caddy.

      His average is 68, and his BE is between 56 and 67 from now until Round 12. If he was a rookie we'd be saying his BE is approaching his average, time to cash in that cow. We didn't get him in as a keeper, he was meant to make the leap to near-premium status and he hasn't done it. Every week you keep him it's as much a risk you lose money (either on him or an alternative cash cow) as you make it.

      • Michael says:

        I think gesture was meaning trade down instead of up – that way you build your cash as absolute worst case. If you trade up and your premo doesn't perform you're screwed.

    • Ocker says:

      I agree with Beady Eye on this one.
      I have looked at who I want at the end of the season but that is purely speculative.

      What trades do you intend to make in the next ten weeks?

      Cheers,

  102. Beard says:

    Lads i want a vote.

    Riolo or Bruest?

    • MightyDonsFC says:

      Neither, I would go gray, but from those two breust

    • Sarah says:

      Breust

    • MajorMash says:

      Breust is going to score just as well as Rioli, however Rioli has a history of injuries! Take Breust from those two, however for a similar priced option, Parker from Sydney could be good!

      Also, dont forget about Jackson Merrett if you want to save and then make some cash!

  103. Shaun says:

    I’m stuck guys!! Is R.Shaw to Laidler a good move?? Does Laidler have good JS??

    • MightyDonsFC says:

      Laidler doesn't have great JS, I'd suggest webster if you don't have him already

  104. Sam says:

    I'm thinking of going:
    Daisy to Kelly

    then either Michie down to Crouch or Caddy to Rioli??

    Any thoughts?

    • ark says:

      i would personally keep daisy, maybe even all year as your M7,M8 can see him averaging 90+ for the year, dso i would keep him

  105. Captain joc says:

    What to do with wingard

    My Fwds danger dusty wingard Mitchell caddy Higgins (jkh Taylor)

    I’m ranked in the top 300 and wanna stay up there and If I field one of the rookies it could lose to much ground

    Any advice?

    • Hihihihihi says:

      You could:
      a) waste a trade which could possibly affect at the back end of the year. Or
      b) play a rookie and save a trade

    • MightyDonsFC says:

      Depends what you value more, 50 points or two trades wasted getting him out then back in

    • Derek says:

      If you are in top 300, you must trade your ass off.

      • Captain joc says:

        I don’t know if I would bring him back in as I would replace with a premium if I traded him and it could potentially be more than 50 points

    • Ocker says:

      Hold he should only be out one week, Trades are like gold.

      Cheers.

    • SCaddict says:

      Ordinarily I would just advise you to utilise your bench as that's what it's there for…not just to make us cash.

      But given that you are top 300 I think it could justify a sideways trade. Roughy, Buddy and Parker have found some form or you could go for a riskier play and save some cash with an unproven Merrett.

      Wingard SHOULD be back the following week but there are no guarantees and he COULD always hurt that ankle again. Or alternatively he could just be fine.

      This is all assuming you already have all the right rookies in other lines as Supercoach is still a marathon and not a sprint even ranked as high as you are.

      • Captain joc says:

        Well this is my side scaddict
        Defs: Swallow, Hanley, Mitchell, jaensch, McDonald, Langdon (Langford, Georgiou)
        Mids: Ablett, Pendlebury, Beams, Libbatore, Tyson, M.Thomas, Polec, Dunstan (Ellis, Aish)
        Rucks: Sandilands, Pyke (Currie, King)
        Fwds: Dangerfield, Martin, Wingard, Mitchell, Caddy, Higgins (Taylor, JKH)

        Yeah well that is the thing that’s troubling me not sure how long he could be out, I wanted to upgrade caddy but that looks like it could be on the back burner, although ATM I looked at bringing in rioli and zorko and trading out wingard and caddy.
        Normally I would just play a rookie but with how low the rookie Fwds score
        Also I have 125k in the bank

        • SCaddict says:

          That's obviously a super team although ranked in the top 0.1% that obviously goes without saying. No issues at all with your defence or midfield. Pykey has been solid enough too.

          I forgot about Cyril's great start. Yes those proposed moves look fine to me. Crouching's "trade your @rse off" definitely applies to your particular situation so wouldn't take the risk in keeping Wingard.

          We all thought that Lids would only miss 1 game but that has now turned into 2 games and who knows it could end up being 3 or 4. Even 50pts for just one round could be difference in falling out of the top 500 or alternatively cracking the top 100. So BANG BANG buddy!

          • Captain joc says:

            Yeah I’m happy for my defs and Mids cows to just fatten from now until the byes and my other players I see as keepers not totally sold of jaensch being a keeper main reason I brought him in was because he was due to make some cash and I really like his next 4 games but if he keeps tonning up then his a keeper
            Pyke has deffaintly be solid ( I don’t know why people don’t think his a solid ruck man)
            And if I do these trades I would have 7 or 8 spots to upgrade so therefore I would use 14 to 16 trades
            I’ve already used 3 trades
            Rd 2 clurey to georgiou for cover
            Rd 3 Michie to m Thomas/ laidler to jaensch
            Will have used 5 trades if I do these 2

            Thanks for your advice mate very much appreciated

  106. gesture says:

    Adelaide coaching staff said danger will get a test, Bomber said chappy most likely wont travel and wingard will seemingly miss against brisbane if he isnt up by friday. All heard on SEN

  107. Adam says:

    Danger,s gonna miss?!

  108. MajorMash says:

    I am honestly not sure what to do this week!

    I have $193,200 in salary left.

    I really want to be able to get Jaensch into my team, however I dont know if it is going to be possible!
    My backline is Enright, Thompson, Mitchell, Suckling, Langdon, Laidler, (Georgiou, Clurey), so of those the only one worth trading would Clurey, as the others are still set for price rises. I was also debating going Clurey to McDonald (NM) if I wasnt able to bring in Jaensch.

    My forwards are my other concern. I am happy with Danger, Martin, Mitchell, Zorko (I reckon all 4 of them will be staying until the end of the year) however I am not so impressed with my other 4 forwards – Impey, Rohan, JKH, Honeychurch.

    What is your opinion guys? 28 trades left!

    • matty says:

      maybe enright to jeansch if enright doesnt play this week and rohan to merret/ or a premium?

      • MajorMash says:

        Thanks for the reply!

        Thats another option I was thinking for myself -> Enright to Jaensch (or even Swallow) if he doesnt play this weekend, and then that gives me $500k. That really only leaves enough for someone like Breust, Parker, Merrett or possibly even Darling!

        However, I can see Enright in my team at the end of the year, so trading him out then in might not be the greatest option :/

    • Beady Eye says:

      What's your midfield situation look like?

      • MajorMash says:

        Mids I am pretty confident in for now:

        Ablett, Pendles, Beams, Cotchin, Murphy, Tyson, Polec, Dunston, (Ellis, M. Crouch) which I have had from the start, and intend on leaving for the next few weeks at least, the only thing I could consider would be M. Crouch for someone.

        Rucks are fine -> Mumford + Sandi, with Derickx and Thurlow on the bench.

        • Beady Eye says:

          Hmmm yeah you're right, you're pretty set in midfield! Was hoping there might be some wiggle room to help your other lines.

          I'd probably go with Matty's suggestion, and swap Rohan to Taylor ASAP. He's at least doing something and has pretty decent potential.

    • Derek says:

      Wait until teams announced. I think Clurey will get a game. Win card and monfries are out.

      All reports say Honeychurch is very close as well. Wouldn’t be surprised if he is also named

    • SCaddict says:

      Two onfield forward rookies would be killing your scores. Would hang on to Impey but the other 3 are trade fodder imo. Options to look at would be Taylor, Fasolo and even burnman Higgins who is still affordable at $281K.

      If you have a FWD/MID player in your midfield then you could swing him into your forward line for one of these 3 rookies and bring in say a M.Crouch or J.Kelly.

      But either way I would make it a priority to at least get one of those forward rookies off your field if not both.

      • MajorMash says:

        That is one of the main things I have been looking at, epecially considering the low quality of forward rookies. The main one I was thinking would be to do Rohan -> Merret, or at least Rohan to someone!

        Would you take Higgins over Merret? I feel as though Merret has the chance to earn more money, although he is $50k more than Higgins…

        • SCaddict says:

          Yes Merrett is another to consider too. Has a negative BE at least so if he does spud it up in the next few weeks you will probably still make some coin.

          If you like him more than Higgins then reckon you should go with it. Means blowing most of that $193K though.

          But it would be a heck of a lot better than having Rohan as your F5.

    • canman1306 says:

      Rohan and JKH to Taylor and Merret Would be my trades
      Or
      If you aren't sold on Taylor
      Enright and Rohan out for Jaensch and Merrett which would also leave you nearly 200k in the Warchest

  109. simon says:

    when will it be time to get travis choke?

  110. ity says:

    trade josh kennedy to selwood?

  111. chandanrajdb says:

    Hello Community,

    Need some thoughts on who do I go to between Merrett & S May (GCS) DPP…..thinking of trading out Rohan to one of these guys……thoughts please….

    IN: S May, will be left with $9,600 in the bank and

    IN: Merrett, will be left with nearly $50,000 in the bank……

    OR

    Do I just downgrade Rohan to L Taylor and play him on the field?? by doing this will have over 230k in the bank???

    Appreciate any comment / thoughts……

    Cheers,
    Raj….

    • MightyDonsFC says:

      I'd go for merrett

    • Beady Eye says:

      May is a lockdown defender. He's not going to keep scoring like this.

    • Michael says:

      I'd go 3rd option, only because I've done the exact same thing. Taylor will keep improving whereas not entirely sure Merrett will continue as he has been. You'll have some nice funds in the warchest as well.

  112. Adam says:

    I've decided to make 2 trades this week ( down to 24 :/ )

    Rohan – Merrett
    JKH – Kelly (via Taylor swing)

    Out of Tyson, Kelly, polecat and dunstan, which 3 should start?
    Cheers

    • Swans2014 says:

      Wow 24 already! What trades have you done so far? You must be in some serious strife. I feel into the Rohan- Ambrose trade. Merrett looks the good so far and should average 85+. Seeing that your already short on trades it might be better to get someone in who could be a keeper instead of wasting two trades.JKH trade looks the goods. Do you have non scoring player m10? if so use loophole. Touch choice who to pick. Tyson and Dunstan should be picked. Probably Polec over Kelly atm

    • Jake says:

      would start dunstan and tyson tough one out of polec and kelly

  113. supercoach kid says:

    currently ranked 652 and in a bit of a pickle right now

    I have wingard and (for the better word) crap F6 (Imprey // JKH // Ambrose)

    Either upgrade Wingard to Boomer or downgrade him to Merrett then Michie to Kelly
    leaving 200k in the bank for future upgrades of rookies to premiums

  114. Mark says:

    Hi everyone just wondering who is the best trade option for viv michie however i have no money what sk ever left in the bank ??

    Thankyou

    • Mark says:

      I already have b crouch as my second benched player

    • Nuggety says:

      M Crouch I reckon mate, considering the same trade myself, only because I’m having to start Taylor or Cunningham on the field. But not sure he’s the answer to my problem. Hold one more week I reckon…. Who are your starting mid rookies?

    • Swans2014 says:

      I cashed in last week and got Matt Thomas. Seeing as you have no money you could go Cunnigham who is averaging around 65. You could take a punt on Nathan Gordon who scored 71 and was sub!. Eli Templeton and Dylan Buckley are other options

  115. Blueprime says:

    B Crouch

  116. Nick says:

    Hey guys,
    Needing to trade out delideo for maybe callan ward thoughts??

    • Nick14 says:

      I held on to him last week but is out this week and in doubt for next week so he has to go. I have 120k in bank so will be looking to upgrade to Selwood. Ward could be a good option, same as Prestia.

  117. Tim says:

    Dear Community
    Is a Derricx sideways trade for Thurlow a good trade?

  118. Cyril says:

    You mean bringing Derickx in?

  119. matttt says:

    who to put on the field 2 of these: Polec, Dunstan or mcdonald

  120. Anth says:

    Hmmm.. I was one of those that went Zorko to Franklin. A bit disappointing but Zorko nearly got snapped in half which I'm using as an excuse for his score.

    The only trade I'm looking at is going Caddy to Luke Parker… is it worth it?

  121. chandanrajdb says:

    Hello Community,

    I have done 2 trades and will be 25 trades left after these 2 trades…..

    OUT: J Pittard & G Rohan

    IN: M Jaensch & L Taylor

    Left with $69,500 in the warchest….

    Reasoning behind the trades above…..

    Trade 1: OUT: J Pittard IN M Jaensch…..
    Pittard was a sub and I am not sure he will increase his price any time soon and doesn't seem like scoring big at all…..why I selected him in my team to start with?…..not so sure may be got sucked in by his pre season form…..

    Going for M Jaensch…..Crows have got easy next 4 matches which are Saints (rd 4), GWS (RD5), WB (Rd6) and Melbourne (RD7)…..until crows rd 8 bye….will upgrade him to a premium DEF if he drops off later in the year….hopefully it will be like a side ways trade without spending too much of money for an upgrade from him to any premo who is in form and will be a keeper…. and off course if he keeps up his scoring will be keeper in my team……at the moment he scoring really well…..and hopefully he doesn't drop off at all…..

    Trade 2: OUT: Rohan IN: L Taylor

    I do not want ROHAN in my FWD and on the pine scoring shit……hopefully L Taylor gets more time in the midfield now that Rich is injured and use his score till he fattens up till BL bye round…….

    Thoughts would be much appreciated……

    Thank you,

    Cheers,

    RAJ…..

  122. Cal says:

    whos better to have in the long run Jack Darling or Chad Wingard?

  123. Warrick says:

    gday there guys, was just wondering i want to get josh caddy out of my side and i have 200k in the bank, do i wait for his price to rise or trade him out for a parker or something! Cheers guys

    • Swans2014 says:

      How many trades left?

    • SCaddict says:

      I probably would hold on to him this week. I say this having traded Caddy myself for Zorko last weekend and that semi backfired with Zorko's 46.

      Players like Petrie and Cloke are rapidly dropping in price each week and at some point they will find some form so that could be a good use for Caddy in a few more weeks if he can't produce himself.

      Has a BE of 59 which is not too bad so you are unlikely to lose any significant cash sitting on him for a further week or two until an excellent opportunity arises.

    • sputnik says:

      you've gotta wait. its round 3- there 20 left. caddy should still go up and theres noone else to downgrade to. wait for danger to drop more. he's gonna struggle this year coz he's a lone soldier who keeps getting smashed and his teamates do nothing.

  124. Krazee-Eyez Killa says:

    Hold on Ziebell or give him the boot? Scott has said he'll miss this week again. Will have 564k available if I dump him

  125. Cal says:

    what do people think of Patrick Cripps?

  126. Tomahawk says:

    Hey guys,

    I have L. Parker, Wingard, Danger, Higgins, Caddy, JKH, Honeychurch, and just brought in bloody Ambrose.

    What do I do? I don't think I can cop a donut as I've got a tight matchup in my work league.

    I'm thinking Wingard —> Zorko & Honeychurch —> L.Taylor.

    I have 75k in the bank.

    Thanks guys!

  127. nick says:

    hi guys,
    What are your thoughts on either callan ward or Rory sloan for deledio?? thought please