PREMIUM CHEAT SHEET 2014 – v1.0

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Jock Reynolds - The Father of Fantasy

Here’s my first revision of the 2014 Premium cheat sheet

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  1. Lukuss says:

    I wish I had $20million to spend now!
    Thanks another awesome cheat sheet Jock!

  2. Qbagger says:

    Swanny?

    • LukTon says:

      My thoughts on Swanny…

      I think with the full return of Beams, and the Pendlebury machine running full tilt, in tandem with the supporting acts of Ball and Sidebum who often produce some fantastic premo scores, I can't see how Swan can guarantee us with consistently exceptional scoring.

      I just think that when picking the premos for your team, can they do just that; GUARANTEE us with consistently exceptional scoring? (Although Stanton did make the cheat sheet…)

      I do need to eat my words a little though, because last season (with an SC ave of 117.5) was the first season he aveaged less than 120 since 2008! He is proven, but I feel things may be a little different this year. I do agree though, he is an omission from the sheet none-the-less.

      • Bender says:

        I wouldn't be so sure about Swanny. I read this while doing a bit of research on afl.com

        Having had the same operation on his right wrist five years ago, Swan is now looking forward to playing with two strong hands for the first time since 2008.

        "I'm actually really looking forward to being able to tackle with two hands and be able to fend off with my left hand and just be able to use both hands without hurting," Swan said on Monday night.

        "I hurt my right one about five years ago so I haven't really had two strong hands for about five years so it will be nice to have that."

      • Avzmo says:

        I feel as if it doesn't matter how loaded the Collingwood midfield is, they all manage to score quite well. Swan looks like hes in good form.

        I think the better question is, are there better options for around the same value or even cheaper. So many good options for the midfield this year.

  3. LukTon says:

    Great work again Jock, curious as to why Selwood is left out; expected to start slowly and build like last year?

    I feel that if the cats are to win games early, they will need Selwood to significantly contribute and influence momentum towards the cats. This can only result in sizable supercoach scores, and for 50k cheaper than Pendles…

    Can't help but see a well priced, proven, super premium here! Curious as to your thoughts, as well as the community's.

    • BMO says:

      A very nice POD to start the season, Im onboard with Joel. The injury and his bye will turn many away which is fine by me. Im just hoping he doesnt tear up his one nab challenge game coming up to keep him off everyones radar. Brownlow anyone?

      • K'noath says:

        For me he's an upgrade target. I think he'll drop 50k atleast early on and be ripe for bye round upgrade

    • Avzmo says:

      There is quite a few different options that could make this list, ideally we need to cheat sheet to be like 20 players long for each posi. But I'm sure Jock has better things to do with his time. If you went through all the midfielders that looked like good legit options this year in the 450k+ range, there would be like 50 players there.

    • Kenny Powers says:

      Will Selwood's scores be affected by the new "ducking" rule as he was the very best at it! It will cut his Frees For to almost zero …

      • LukTon says:

        I don’t think we have to worry about that; the man is a protected species.

        But in all seriousness I don’t feel the new rule will affect Selwood’s scoring output.

  4. Simon says:

    Sending out a strong word Jock recommending only to start with one of Ablett and pendles!
    I'm on the fence when deciding Pendles Vs Cotchin +111k… any advice

    • Rocksta says:

      Go into Preseason Research Index and go into the Stat Interface.
      Pendles tonned up 20 times last year……………3 more than Ablett, 4 more than Jelwood, and 5 more than Cotchin.
      Does that sound like somebody you should leave out?
      I personally wouldn't even consider it for a second

    • SCaddict says:

      I agree with Jock on this one. Just too much cash to spend on both with all these other value premiums around.

      Pendles is still a great selection obviously but I will be picking him up later too.

      Changing subjects a little geez anyone who was in doubt about Sandilands has surely locked him away after tonight. Wonder if anyone here won't have him as their R2 now?? Ummm LOCK!

      • throttlefinger says:

        Agree on Sandi, SCaddict. For the amount of time he played both games (70+% TG), he sure seems like he won't be managed the first 10 rounds. And as the Barron said, that's really all we need from him.

        Right now my ruck-numdrum is go McE/Lobbe/Sauce + Sandi or Hickey + Sandi. Surely with the latter affording the dynamic SC duo of Gazza-Pendles won't be a problem.

        • SCaddict says:

          It's obviously doable and many with start with both but I won't be one of them. Would be interested to see a poll on this one.

          At this stage plan to roll with a frontline of GAJ, Cotch, JPK and perhaps Jobe if I can squeeze him in depending on the rookie situation.

          • throttlefinger says:

            Poll would interesting on this for sure. Good suggestion.

            Right now, Gaz, Pendles, Jobe, JPK, Beams, Daisy. Leaning toward Polec and Ellis to fill the last two slots. Mids not giving me as much grief as defenders and forwards 5-6 players.

            • Revesby Rogue says:

              Gaz, peddles and Beams share a rd8 bye. You can put 2 on bench but are you planning on trading one of them? Beams?

              • throttlefinger says:

                Hey Double R. Nope. Keeping all. Just limiting the amount of points lost round 8 by only having 3 "big scoring" mids. Have Dusty so that will reduce points as well. Leaning Caddy as well.

                So yes I can sub but their scoring average is what I'm trying to plan to offset.

            • SCdonkey says:

              Like your Mid line-up TF similar to mine minus Pendles
              Right now i have Gablett, Jobe, Cotch, JPK, Beams, Daisy, Tyson and Polec/Ellis then i have Dunstan and Crouch on the Bench.
              But yet Im still not settled on JPK my mind is going in circle with him or Rocky or Fyfe.

              • throttlefinger says:

                Yeah, the rest of mine fill out the same. Going back and forth on Tyson or save cash for Polec and Mitchie. Dunstan and Ellis on the bench. May do Robertson if I want to save some cash.

        • WombatsFC says:

          Sinclair will play the role that NicNat used to, well worth a consideration

          • throttlefinger says:

            Had Sinclair last season and he doesn't look like he got much better. Erratic with his kicking. Seems like he's missing that extra gear you'd like. Pricey for a bench guy. Longer may be worth the extra ducats.

            • WombatsFC says:

              You got on him 12-months too early throttle. Don't beat yourself up over it by reading things into his game that aren't there; he was still a kid then and this is his third year in the system.
              When a ruck has 17 kicks in the slipperiest conditions he'll ever face one or two kicks will go astray. When you add the 6 marks, 17 hitouts and 2 goals to the fact that he's a tall unit who is very fast over the ground and I think you'll see all the Lycett fans trading down come round 1.

              • throttlefinger says:

                Ha. Not hard on myself. He's tall but not Sandi tall or anything outstanding. Sure he's got good speed but watched him play a lot and just have a gut no on him. Probably will help the Eagles but would be shocked if he gave had any SC value to provide.

                • WombatsFC says:

                  No he's not as tall as Sandi or Cox. His role at Eagles ain't R1 he's the mobile tall fwd who gives Cox a chopout.
                  With Darling and Kennedy taking 1 & 2 defender and LeCras keeping the mobile defender busy Callum will feel like he's back in the WAFL.
                  I don't care if only 25% of his points come from hitouts, on the big wide WA ovals with the 4th best defender on him he will do very well indeed. If not, that's what trades are for.
                  Personally I'm currently going HayMac and Sandi but if the Mac breaks before the first bounce I'll replace him with sinclair and spend the extra 50K to get a Mitchell or Parker at F5

                  • throttlefinger says:

                    Sounds like you've built quite a rucks roller coaster. Hope the ride is good and the bumps are few, my man.

          • SCdonkey says:

            Sinclair and Woods are a little too pricey to have on bench and if you start with them as an R2 job security will be a concern, I think you'll be wasting a trade and points you could have if you start with Sandi or Hickey.

      • Rocksta says:

        Sandi is surely the supreme Ruckman in the league when fit?
        I've gone Sauce and Sandi, Locked and Loaded. Sauce looked great the other night and is definitely moving a hell of a lot better than last year. He also seems to have improved his around the ground play as well.

        • SCaddict says:

          Yes Sauce is at the top of my list too for an R1 but haven't locked him just yet. Want to get another look at Hickey as well as Hmac on Friday. Also both Pyke and McEvoy are still in the frame but Sauce is my front runner right now.

        • Luttski says:

          Is anyone else thinking about a gamble on Hampson now that Maric is out?
          Love to hear everyone’s thoughts.

          • WombatsFC says:

            Yep I thought about it but then I realised that having him in SC wouldn't lead to Megan Gale making a visit to the wombat burrow so I dropped him to chase points.

            Seriously he is a an option but a very risky option. When he's on he marks everything that comes near him but I reckon it will take a while before the Tiges midfielders build confidence in him

  5. BrianBundybear says:

    Its been 20 days now and I have had 20 different teams LOLOLOL

  6. Matt says:

    What's everyone's thoughts on Luke Dahlhaus?

    • vinnymac says:

      Lock for me at the moment, $425,900 is very good value for someone I believe could avg close to 100.

    • K'noath says:

      He hasn't quite mad eit into my team at any point yet but watching closely. He comes in at the similar price point as TMitchell, Parker, Zorko, etc and will be ahrd to fit more than two in. Big watch for me and decide before R1

  7. tyzsb says:

    Dal Santo can not trust him because of being tagged!!!!!
    What's everyone's thoughts….

    • SCaddict says:

      Should have a great year at his new club but not for me. I prefer the inside mids for my premos as they are much harder to tag.

      Also don't need another Rd8 mid as I already have 3, perhaps 4 if I pick Matty Crouch.

  8. Qbagger says:

    I sleep better at night knowing Swanny is in my team :)

  9. throttlefinger says:

    Love the Enright call, Jock. And agree about Dog-Dog and Coxy. Flirted with both but you just put a nail in those R1 coffins.

    Pendles…hmmmm. Cheaper than last season. Even more valuable.

  10. Rocksta says:

    Call me Crazy but I just can't see how you can't have both Bartell and Mitchell as locks in your backline.
    They will most probably average over 100 for the season, effectively making them equivalent to M4, M5 mids.
    Apart from McVeigh, can you conclusively say/expect this for any other defender( Heater could do it but will be very hard at GWS)?

    • throttlefinger says:

      Bartel will be a must in my final squad. Not slotting him in at the jump. More comfortable with Mitchell. At that cost, can't do both and Pendles and Gazza, while filling in for the high priced rooks, many won't even make R1 selects.

      • Rocksta says:

        Rooks are doing my head in.
        I've gone Faz and Rohan F5 and F6 as I feel that all the cheap Forward Rooks are lineball to get many Games. Ill have to wait and see with Faz as he had a 'managed' pre- season and thus may not be fit enough for Rd 1. Nevertheless, baring injury, he should pump out some regular 70-85 scores.
        I've Gone Polec and Ellis as M7, M8 because I'm damned if I'm going to spend big dollars on those first year big names. For the cheaper ones, again I don't have enough confidence in them to have them as starters ( apart from Dunstan whom I have on the mid bench).
        Down back their isn't much choice. But currently, I only have McD as a first year starting Rook on field in any line.

        • throttlefinger says:

          Backs are giving me migraines, Rocksta. McD might be my D6. Unless my plums grow some and slot Clurey in there. May slot J. Webster in D5 if he looks good against GWS. Pittard, while NABsational, is at an awkward price. Had him last year and was good for a rook price. Not sure.

          Polec and Ellis too. Beams and Aish I toy with but P&E a better value. Dunstan will play but prefer him on bench.

          My risky POD may be Hunter at F5. DPP yet a tad awkward in price $284K. Looked good in NAB. May try Faz if plums pop a leak. Rohan will be F6 for sure. Wish JKH was playing again. Be nice to slot a cheap rook at F6. Siigh.

  11. Daniel says:

    How about Franklin?

    • Rocksta says:

      Its hard to say?
      You'd think that Tippett will steal some of his Thunder but in 2008 both Buddy and Roughy played forward and both had magnificent seasons.
      I'm personally going to wait and see with Buddy. I'm not a fan of Starting the season with KPP's in any event.
      I tell you what though, if Westhoff goes off again early like he did last year, I'm going to get on. He looked magnificent last night and may be ready to get to Elite KPP status.

      • Kenny Powers says:

        Despite Jock calling him the Stinkmeister and demanding the community sack him, I had the Hoff all of last season, He averaged close enough to the ton for the year and when used as captain against my arch rival he got me the win with a huge 163 (326)!! Get on the HOFFMEISTER!!

    • Dee says:

      Not for me this year…. Sorry buddy. Pavlich looks good tho I reckon…..

  12. Luke says:

    As with earlier comments am on about a 20th reshuffle of squad.

    GAJ, libba, murph, cotch, beams, daisy, Liam shiels polec are my starting mids. Is this too top heavy or given the

    Sandi + hickey ruck is it reqd? Also have Mitch, mcveigh and enright down back.

    Query : can shiels step into what seems like a vacant hawks midfield? Is brad hill a better option?

    Thanks guys.

    • K'noath says:

      Liam Shiels is one to watch for sure. Beware that Clarko does a lot of testing in NAB. If Shiels tags again he's scoring will stagnate. However he's tagging roles has been a super apprenticeship into being a potential breakout player this year if he's NAB role stays for season. LIsten for news I'd say.

      Yes I think your MID is top heavy. Pick two out of Murph/Beams/Daisy/Shiels

    • Avzmo says:

      I don't think Brad Hill is a better option, but you don't necessarily have to stay with Hawthorn. We know there is Shane Savage in that role as well.

      I'm awfully tempted by Shiels but you'd hate to make that call then have him play the tag again. Does Hawthorn need to mess with a winning formula?

      I've currently got Hickey/Sandi in ruck but only one lock, have to see how the other plays in his last game.

  13. Tom says:

    What about Watson excluded from the cheat sheet

  14. Billy says:

    what are peoples thoughts about zaharakis? will he have a break out year?

    • Avzmo says:

      He may but there are plenty of mid pricers due for break out years. I;m sure there will be a lot of teams with different players between the $450k and $550k bracket. Do you want to go safe with that pick or take a bit of risk.

      I feel like Zaharakis will be playing more on the risky side.

  15. Dave says:

    Hi everyone.

    I’ve put a team together and just wanted the thoughts of the community!

    Backs – Mitchell, Grimes, Swallow, Suckling, Jaensch, McDonald.

    Subs – Langdon,Georgiou.

    Mids – Ablett, Watson, Fyfe, Cotchin, Murphy, Beams, D Thomas, Polec.

    Subs- M Crouch, B Ross.

    Rucks – Sandilands, Hickey

    Subs – A Smith, T Mitchell

    Fwds – Dangerfield, Martin, M Wright, Caddy, Higgins, Fasolo.

    Subs – J Kennedy-Harris, P Ambrose.

    Any help would be much appreciated community!!

    • george says:

      Looking good davo. What you reckon about caddy, In for a good year? Ive considered him also

    • K'noath says:

      Jaensch prob won't make you much cash I'd say.

      Your subs of Ross, Smith, Mitchell, Ambrose probably won't see game time. I can't see any of them playing three games to increase in value.

      I'd downgrade one of Murphy/Daisy and upgrade Fasolo in your FWD's too

    • Kurt says:

      I don't think having so many non rookies is logical, since most of the good rookies are in the middle.

    • Avzmo says:

      Midfield is loaded but possibly paying for it in other places.

      Your backline has got a few questions and is lacking a bit of depth. Also as much a star as Georgiou has been, hes still on the rookie list. Also feel like your low-mid pricers in your forward line are a bit risky. Higgins is always a risk and not sure if Fasolo and Caddy will make the leap this year. There is probably better options if you trade up into the low $400s and down to the rookies.

      Also wanna see Hickey in his next game before I give him the tick of approval.

    • Kev says:

      Hi Dave,

      Few left field rookie choices there. P Ambrose and A Smith are still rookie listed. Not sure who T Mitchell is as your R4, typo? Also keep an eye on team sheets to see if Langdon, M Crouch, and Ross are named for round 1.

      I'm a fan of having a back up plan if sandilands goes down early without making much coin. I'd look at selecting a rookie ruck/fwd as your R4 and have someone like hale or dixon up forward.

      Mid priced madness up forward, the chances of wright, caddy, higgins, and fasolo all having successful years is pretty slim for mine. I'd look at downgrading one of them to a rookie and spending the cash saved elsewhere

      • Dave says:

        Sorry mate, It was meant to be P.Mitchell.

        I like having non playing rookies so I can use loopholes for every position.

        I agree with the mid priced madness call lol.

        Im not a big fan of many rookie Fowards this season..

        • Avzmo says:

          As per the comments down the bottom, you have that loophole in every position and your foregoing potentially $500,000+ down the road.

          Its definetely hard to spot the good forward rookies this season, half of the best ones aren't looking like playing round one as they are not 'top 22' or they are still on the rookie list. But if you look hard I'm sure you can find a few pearlers.

  16. MarcuJ says:

    I had dusty in my squad at he the start but after the two nab cup games i game him the flick, i don't like him at half back and i think it will take him some time to adjust too it

    i have locked roughie in my squad for the last 3 seasons and haven't touched him but without the ruck dpp im also skeptical on this. anyone else taking in the orange rough ?

    • george says:

      Ive always had roughie but havent even considered him this year. Lost alot of appeal.

    • Dave says:

      I had Roughie in the Ruck the season as well!

      This season I will stay away. If im picking a Hawks forward im going with Breust or Gunston

  17. george says:

    Put in best to worst:

    guthrie, suckling, pittard

    And also do you think isaac smith will be a good pick this year?

    • Kev says:

      Smith was very up and down last year. For 450k there is better value elsewhere

    • Dave says:

      Pretty close between the 3 of them. If i was choosing I would probably go Suckling given hes so cheap and a proven scorer..

      Isaac Smith is probably a no go for me as I think he will cop the tag.

    • george says:

      Thanks lads

    • MarcuJ says:

      ive had guthrie locked for a few weeks, im a cats supporter so that has something to do with it but after his finals series last year im backing him to explode

    • Avzmo says:

      As with the rest of these comments, they are pretty close.

      We saw Pittard on fire a couple of days ago but you'd like to see that happen consistently, who knows if he just ate some chilis that day.

      Guthrie is another POD, if your looking to have a couple of low-mid pricers hes definitely worth a look.

      Then theres the 90% of teams that will have Suckling, probably the best option but do you want PODs?

  18. Kelz says:

    What are people's thought on a Jacobs+Simpson ruck duo? Both are about 100k cheaper than most of the main prospects and I think both have potential to go high 90's-low 100's.

    • Dave says:

      Jacobs I like! Came good late in the season.

      Simpson im not sure on. Depends alot on Macintosh really..

    • Avzmo says:

      I reckon that Jacobs is a risky POD, when you look at the fact that there are quite a few ruckman in the high 400s this year.

      I don't see him being in many teams, but with Mummy and Pyke being clear #1's at there perspective team, and Bellchambers injured, Ryder will get a good go.

      I feel like there are better options out there.

  19. Thomwell says:

    Gday Jock Jock

    What about Joel Sely Selwood

    Get around Jocky Boy LA LA

  20. Avzmo says:

    I've posted a bit of feedback for others so thought I would put my current team down. Goes as follows.

    DEF: Mitchell, Hibberd, Enright, Suckling, McDonald, Clurey (Langdon, Fuller)
    MID: Ablett, Pendles, Libba, Cotchin, Beams, Thomas, Michie, Polec (Crouch, Honeychurch)
    RUC: Hickey, Sandi (Nankervis, King)
    FWD: Danger, Martin, Wingard, Mitchell, Hogan, McDonough (Taylor, Kennedy-Harris)

    I wanna check that Hibberd is right for round one, otherwise happy with the back line.
    Am looking for a cheap rookie to take Honeychurch's spot, didn't show enough recently, perhaps just got a bit of big stage fright.
    Max King is there as a loophole as I'm fairly sure he won't be getting a game, and I don't think there are many ruck rookie options that will be getting a game.
    And want to see Hogan play, before locking him in.

    • george says:

      I like it. You confident with tommy mitchell though? I would of lived to put him in. Just bit expensive for a second year player tho I think.

      • MarcuJ says:

        im also running mitchel atm, i pulled zorko out and put mitchel in. not confident on wither atm tho lol

      • Avzmo says:

        There are a few options at that range who I have entertained. Pav, Bruest and Gunston, Zorko, Robbie Gray etc. Due to change based on what I see in the rest of the NAB Challenge then I'll make the call. But loved what I saw from him through the end of last year and start of this year, doesn't show any indication of slowing down. Also feel like he will score consistently, out of the few above the ones I'm most interested in are Zorko and Gray.

  21. Liam says:

    Thoughts and feedback appreciated. 80k Left
    1. Mitchell, S
    2. Hanley, P
    3. Enright, C
    4. Grimes, J
    5. McDonald, L
    6. Cameron, C
    23. Fuller, M
    24. Georgiou, A

    Midfielders
    7. Ablett, G
    8. Pendlebury, S
    9. Jack, K
    10. Cotchin, T
    11. Beams, D
    12. Thomas, D
    13. Beams, C
    14. Polec, J
    25. Dunstan, L
    26. Crouch, M

    Rucks
    15. McIntosh, H
    16. Sandilands, A
    27. Currie, D
    28. Derickx, T

    Forwards
    17. Dangerfield, P
    18. Martin, D
    19. Franklin, L
    20. Caddy, J
    21. Rohan, G
    22. Kennedy-Harris, J
    29. Garlett, D
    30. Honeychurch, M

    • Avzmo says:

      Team looks pretty good, a few PODs. I prefer Aish over C Beams if your determined to get one of them, but I guess its personal preference.

      Not set on McIntosh, he hasn't played very many games lately, if your gonna have two rucks that are both coming off big injury layoffs theres a decent risk there. But it could pay off for you.

      Also I'd have another look at your rookies before round one, I reckon there may be a few there that won't start the regular season.

    • Daniel says:

      Question marks on McIntosh, J.Grimes, C.Beams, D.Currie. Crouching's slipper made a good point, could sell S.Pendlebury and K.Jack into cheaper low $500,000 and high $400,000 players that are likely to breakout and you could save about $300,000 which you could use elsewhere. Also C.Cameron into someone like T.Clurey.

    • ashley says:

      insted of k.jack get selwood

  22. Dave says:

    Hey guys thanks so much for the feedback!

    I try to put one non playing rookie on each line so I can use the loophole.

    People seem to forget you can use the loophole for more than just the Captain.

    • Derek says:

      most people will be doing that for the RUCK line, but you really need your emergency players to be generating cash for you.

    • Avzmo says:

      Problem is if your sacrificing 4 spots on your list, you could be sacrificing hundreds of thousands in increases in team value. Using a loophole to increase your points a little bit probably isn't worth it.

  23. markbruty says:

    For me this year has been the toughest in terms of team selection. You can load up on premiums in the midfield but do yourself out of a lot of cash!

  24. Colby says:

    I read somewhere that Brent Harvey might end up being a Super Sub!?

    • Avzmo says:

      Not while hes still at the top of his game. They need his influence as a team leader on the ground, not on the bench. I can see Nahas being a sub.

    • Shinboner says:

      Not with the form he's in! I can see him in a Giansiracusa role in 2-3 years.

  25. Ryan says:

    BACKS: Bartell, Mitchell, Hanley, Suckling, McDonald, Laidler
    BENCH: Fuller, Cutler

    MIDS: Ablett, Pendlebury, Cotchin, Beams, Dale Thomas, Tyson, Aish, Michie
    BENCH: Polec, Dunstan

    RUCKS: Lobbe, Sandilands
    BENCH: Currie, Nankervis

    FWDS: Dangerfield, Wingard, Franklin, Zorko, Hogan, Garlett
    BENCH: Taylor, Kenedy-Harris

    Cash Left $126,500

    Tossing up between:
    Dom Tyson and Liam Shiels.
    Mathew Lobbe and Ben Mcevoy.

    Is Jesse Hogan worth the spot?

    All comments appreciated.

    • Dave says:

      Hey Ryan,

      In my opinion mate you have gone a bit light on in the Mids..

      But the fact you have gone hard with your DEFS probably means you will make up the points there.

      Liam Shiels and Lobbe. Give Jesse Hogan a miss. Mitch Clark will be the one you want later on.

      Not sold on Laidler at all. See how he goes tonight!

    • Avzmo says:

      Pretty much what Dave has said on the button. Your team has the makings of a good team but might be a little light where the points matter most.

      Going with 5 youngsters will mean that your team might appreciate in value but the exchange will be a fair bit of early season points.

      I also am not convinced that Laidler will make the side to start the season, he may have to bide his time in the minors.

      Will also be interesting to see how Franklin goes tonight, and not sure if Garlett will be starting round one.

      I'm waiting to see Melbourne play Geelong before I make the final call on Hogan.

    • WombatsFC says:

      I like it Ryan.
      Plenty to score early and plenty to build with.

      Thoughts:
      Laidler was good for a year at Blues but IMO he hasn't done enough to get a spot in swans best 22 for round 1 and I doubt that either of Fuller or Cutler will see game time unless an injury gives them a chance. So try to get a defender who is going to play otherwise you'll get fat on donuts.
      Midfield needs another guaranteed 100+
      Perhaps consider Thurlow over Currie you probably wont need the points but $ increase will come in handy
      Hogan & Garlett wont play in first 3 rounds

    • Ryan says:

      Thanks for the input guys, I appreciate it.

      I have swapped Tyson for Shiels, Currie for Thurlow, Hogan for Gary Rohan and Laidler for Will Langford.

      Only downside is i now have, Mitchell, Suckling and Langford in my Defence.
      I have struggled this year for DEF rookies, any Ideas If both Fuller and Cutler won't be playing early?

      A couple more questions for you guys:
      Fasolo or Rohan?
      Garlett for who?
      Is it worth getting rid of Wingard for Matty Wright (or someone of his ilk) and then upgrading Shiels for Rockliff?

      • Avzmo says:

        Having three Hawks in D, probably isnt a massive problem. Id be more looking at the bye round and how many you have missing each round.

        Shiels was strongly considered for my own team, but not sure if we will be tagging or let loose in the midfield, if he does get loose, he will be a gun. I would take Rohan over Fasolo, Rohan might not average above 60-70 but you know he will be top 22 and get plenty of game time, Fasolo could still be on the cusp with all the new blood at Collingwood this year and am not set on him.

        I feel like Rockliff has been solid as per Jocks cheatsheet but hes pricey and there may be players who will score similarly but be a fair bit cheaper. (Dal Santo?)

        Also I think Thurlow is still on the Rookie List, will be good if he is elevated.

  26. Tom says:

    Selwood or K. Jack????

    • Avzmo says:

      Selwood imo, hes got a higher control of the Geelong midfield where I feel Jack has to share it around a fair bit more. I feel with the rise of more and more Sydney midfielders, Jack will score consistnely well, but probably not with the potential that Selwood might.

    • Shinboner says:

      I assume this is Joel you're referring to. If so, him.

  27. Beard says:

    Lads, long time reader first time poster haha.

    Been playing this with my oldie and his mates for a few years now and got 2nd last year so would love some help to take first out. not much of an afl genius though know the basics. i'm an nrl man and can help you lads with any nrl tips if anyone needs it!

    I'm running the following squad and would love some advise.

    Mitchell, Hanley, Swallow, Suckling, McDonald, Clurey – Fuller, Georgiou

    Ablett, Penlez, Cotchin, Beams, Thomas, Shiels, Ellis, Dunstan – Crouch, Robertson

    Minson, Sand – Thurlow, Nankervis

    Danger, Martin, Franklin, Mitchell, Caddy, JKH – Merrett, Honeychurch.

    My main questions is Langdon worth getting in from Pies as a bench mid or def. If so who for?

    If I downgrade Big Will Minson (had him early last year and earnt a lot of love for me by just killing it for me) to someone. WHO?

    I was looking at upgrading Suckling to McVeigh if I did downgrade big Will as I have about 60k in the bank already.

    Is Caddy worth the risk? I was looking at Hogan though not sure there. Mitchell and Franklin I have question marks over too though I just don't know who else I'd take…

    Hanley a lock at D2? Is there someone else I should consider instead?

    Thanks for your times guys and I mean it any help for NRL can be returned :D

    • Dave says:

      Great first Post Beard! Welcome!

      Im personally going really cheap in the Rucks this season – But thats also a massive risk!
      You can downgrade Minson to Grundy, Hickey or Macintosh if you really wanted to..
      Otherwise if youre not looking to downgrade that far, go with Ryder or Lobbe.

      I have Josh Caddy. worth the risk I think. Without chappy and Corey should get ample time in the middle.
      Put Tom Langdon on your bench instead of Fuller. We havent seen Fuller this preseason. Wont be there round 1 at least.

      Keep your forward line the way it is. A lot of people are worried about the second year blues for Mitchell.
      Downgrading slightly to Zorko could be an option for you… Or even Robbie Gray as a bit of a POD.

      You need to have Polec in your midfield! He could be the next Karnezis but again too cheap to pass up..

      Good luck with it all mate and look foward to future posts :)

      • Beard says:

        Thanks mate I appreciate it.

        So I might take out Fuller put Langdon in.

        Get rid of Robertson and take Polec…

        What about the idea of downgrading Minson to either Ryder or someone like Nic Nat…

        The reason to it is I could look at upgrading Suckling to someone like McVeigh?

        Not sure what is the better option.

        • MarcuJ says:

          Suckling should perform and make some coin so no point upgrading him just yet.

          also i would stay away from nic nat at the start, we dont know how that groin is going and they going
          to be very cautious with him to get him right

          • Beard says:

            Thanks mate I appreciate it.

            Ok what about upgrading Swallow to Mcveigh or am I better keeping Minson and leaving Swallow and Suckling as is…

            • Sarah says:

              I'd leave it as is. I'm not convinced that McVeigh will match his output of last year. Maybe get him in when his price drops.

            • SCaddict says:

              Yeah I like that move Beard. I expect Macca is in for a great year and there are probably better value options than Big Will for R1, Sauce, Lobbe, Pyke, McEvoy, Ryder etc.

              Enright is another to look at for your defence as per Jock's cheat sheet if Macca's price is too steep for you.

              Btw I know this is an AFL site but how's your NRL Fantasy team looking?

              • Beard says:

                Yeh. Who is this Sauce?

                Was put off with Lobbes preformance other day.

                What position did you want to know about in the League mate?

                • Philthy says:

                  Lobbe is alright don't worry about him, didn't see full game time which he will in H&A, they are only playing Renouf to save Lobbe from injury, Renouf is not in PA's plans for a 2 ruck attack, you need 2 genuine rucks for that and renouf is only a half! Sauce Jacobs

    • Avzmo says:

      I think there are certainly rucks that should provide pretty good value in the $450k-$520k bracket so you might find some value in downgrading Minson, I can't see him maintaining all of last years pace so he might drop a bit in value.

      Otherwise I think your squad looks pretty good, only worry is that you have some players on the rookie list that would need to be elevated, otherwise your gonna have some donuts.

      I know Jock has mentioned Caddy a few times, but I'm not convinced hes the real deal yet. There are plenty of forward options between $430k-$490k if your not set on Mitchell and Franklin. Gunston, Breust, R Gray, Zorko, Mayne etc

      • Beard says:

        I like Franklin and don't mind Mitchell I just am open to swapping them if someone had valid reasons. As I've said I'm not a book of info on AFL like I am on League :P

        Zorko burnt me last year and him playing out of the mid deters me.

  28. chase says:

    I have dusty, buddy, dangerfield & 4 rookies. I need another player with 500k to spend…
    Thoughts

  29. WombatsFC says:

    Thanks Jock I'd forgotten all about Enright and was stressing on how to replace Hibbard
    I've been using v2.0 of the Rookie cheat-sheet in the bottom of the budgy cage for a few days now and I was wondering when v3.0 might be available :-)

    • MarcuJ says:

      hibbard should be right for round 1?

    • Shinboner says:

      I'm going in with both Hibberd and Enright, assuming the former is set for round one. The combined 1 million is worth every penny if it means lessening a repeat of SC Defenders 2013.

      • throttlefinger says:

        Likewise. Hanley is the spot holder until I hear Hibberd is 100% for R1. Didn't look that severe. Never know with him and his hammies, though.

      • WombatsFC says:

        Thats a real solid combo who's filling D5&6

        • throttlefinger says:

          Severe flux those positions. Toying with Webster and McD or McD and Clurey. Like Pittard but a little too pricey. Would have to swing a lot to fit him in. Can't do off one NAB game.

          How bout you?

          • WombatsFC says:

            Obviously flexible but I'm considering 2 of watson, mcdonald,pittard,georgiou

          • WombatsFC says:

            I have SuperCoach diabetes which means I can't accept Donuts

            • throttlefinger says:

              Can't see Clurey doing a donut. Outside McD, he has the strongest chance of making 22 of the rook Defs. But I hear ya.

              Why you like Watson so much, if you don't mind sharing, oh Wombatty one.

              • WombatsFC says:

                So how are you coping with the celebrity status of being a Podcast star?

                • throttlefinger says:

                  Really haven't had a moment to catch my breath to be honest with you. The surge of media calls I've hired an intern to handle, so that's not too bad. But the women folk at the office have been swarming me like an inside 50 to Buddy. And the reaction from the Dusty-ettes?Well, I'm sure your imagination can fill in the blanks.

                  • WombatsFC says:

                    Well don't be suprised when Lara Bingle comes knocking on your door I hear that she is in town and she hits a publicity opportunity like Derek Kickett used to hit a Sherrin

              • WombatsFC says:

                Integral to the team. Tall, solid, Great mark, hardly ever loses a marking contest i.e he spoils if he can't mark, deceptively fast, makes the right decision more than 95% of the time and he's the go to man for the big kick out of defense.
                I think everybody will be as impressed by his footskills by round 9 as most blues supporters are now.
                Alternatively you could (like everybody else) spend the extra 50k and go with a broken down hack with dodgy knees who's trying to break into a grand final team after yet more surgery.

                • throttlefinger says:

                  Gee, wonder who that could be?

                  Not leaning his way for the reasons you stated. Since you do have great insights into the Blues, will take a look into him. Considering Jimmy Webster if he has a game like N1.

                  • WombatsFC says:

                    I haven't even looked at Jimmy Webster which means he didn't do anything during nab that made me think "wow he knows what he's doing" or, it just means that I was watching some other prospect everytime Jimmy went near the ball or, I never saw his number

        • Shinboner says:

          Sorry about the late reply, I thought the message had been processed through the email reply system last night. My defense looks like this: Mitchell, Hibberd, Enright, Broadbent, Hansen, Luke Mac.

          • WombatsFC says:

            Hi Shinboner,
            Hansen & Broadbent hmm. I'd been lookin hard at broadbent but never considered Hansen. is that just an Arden St bias or do you think he can deliver on the investment?

  30. MarcuJ says:

    DEF
    S.Mitchell
    P.Hanley
    M.Hibberd
    C.Guthrie
    L. McDonald
    T.Clurey
    M.Fuller
    T.Cutler

    MID
    G.Ablett
    J.Selwood
    K.Jack
    N.Fyfe
    D.Beams
    D.Thomas
    J.Polec
    X.Elis
    M.Crouch

    RUC
    H.Mcintosh
    A.Sandilands
    F.Thurlow
    T.Nankervis

    FWD
    P.Dangerfield
    J.Roughead
    T.Mitchel
    L.Dahlhaus
    G.Rohan
    J.Kennedy-Harris
    M.Honeychurch
    J.Impey

    Ill obviously change some of the rookies based on round 1 team sheets but a few players have me nervous
    main concerns are
    Roughie
    Mitchel
    Jack
    Ellis

    Thoughts?

  31. BeagzBoyz says:

    Hey community, here's a little question I thought i'd run past you.

    Two premiums not mentioned here, JPK and KayJack.

    Q: What's the biggest downfall to either of them?
    A: Eachother

    Had a quick look back through last season and it's rare you'll find both of them having a 110+ Game
    However, if you add their scores together they often will share in around 220-240 points a game.
    Now for 590k for jack and 570K for JPK, that means that for $1.16m you will be getting an average return of around 230 points. compare that to Yablett and Pendles who will cost you 220k more and give you an average return of 254 points a game, then the double swans route wouldn't be a bad one to consider. Now add into that equation the fact JPK had a fairly quiet year last year and you could see the value increase even more.

    Food for thought.

    • Dave says:

      I guess the attraction is that on any given day, Ablett or Pendles could score you a 150 on there own.

      Same with Dane Swan…

      You wont get that from Jack or JPK. At best this season you can expect maybe a 130.

      • BeagzBoyz says:

        agreed, I would definitely still start with at least one of those two in my team as a set and forget captain, I was thinking more as an option for M3 and M4 until the Bye rounds

      • Shinboner says:

        2012's rendition of JPK was able to hit 130+ for fun on a regular basis. When he scores big, he scores big!

    • vinnymac says:

      I wonder how T.Mitchell, Hannebery, O' Keefe and even McVeigh and Parker will affect JPK and K. Jack's scoring? These are all talented players all capable of serious midfield time.

      • BeagzBoyz says:

        You also have to consider the guys that won't be in the midfield anymore who were taking points in 2012/2013. Goodes and Bolton have made way for Parker and Hannebery, so overall I think it stays pretty even.

    • WombatsFC says:

      Did you take into account the double points for captain?

  32. george says:

    a couple questions..

    1) whos this Mcdonald everyone seems to have? melb or kangas one? any good?

    2) Mcveigh or bartel? (already have mitchell. and Dustin or Danger?

    Big questions!

    • Dave says:

      Its Luke, the North Father – Son Selection, he spent last year in the VFL and was pretty good.

      Tom Mcdonald from Melbourne is also pretty good although about double the price.

    • Shinboner says:

      Lukey McDonald, who will go on to eclipse his father's status at the club, mark my words! Special talent.

  33. Kev says:

    A lesson learnt from last year was a 500k+ defender didn't necessarily translate into a guaranteed 90-100 nor did a guarantee any form of consistency (I'm looking at you birchall!)

    A lot of the teams in this thread have 2-3 of these guys (Mitchell/Hanley/McVeigh/Enright/Hibbo etc) Is it worth jumping on some lower level guys (Swallow, Hurn, Rance etc) and wait to see who of 500k+ types can be a consistent scorer?

    • george says:

      mate i was thinking about birchall.. reckon he could be good this year. what do you think?

    • Dave says:

      Ive taken that approach.
      I have Mitchell as my premo, and have taken Swallow and Grimes as my D2 AND D3.

      Would rather spend extra cash on Mids.

    • Rick Grimes says:

      Yea seriously asking myself the same thing Kev. I'd be pretty happy with a def scoring 80-90 consistently rather than a bloke who can bang out 150 one week and 50 the next.

    • Avzmo says:

      You could take that approach but I'm of the point of view that what you want at the end of the season is premo's in all positions, I feel like at some stage Swallow/Rance etc are gonna have to be traded up meaning you would have to blow a trade to get rid of them.

      I feel like the players with awkward prices need to be making you the same amount of points as the premos and they will generate some cash as well.

      The averages of the defs you mentioned above is gonna be somewhere between 95-105 and the 2nd tier you mentioned is probably 80-90.

      I think you need to find the balance of scoring points and cash generation so that you have enough room to make upgrades later on.

      For me I'd prefer Mitchell/Suckling to Swallow/Rance.

      • Derek says:

        I agree with Avzmo, the goal is to have all premiums at the end of the year (sooner if possible) the mid price players get in the way of that unless they are a suckling or Thomas and you can get them out early for a premium.

        I am going with premium & rookie/wookie plan. Except for Sandi, Suckling & Thomas as my only Mid pricers.

    • Super_Freak says:

      I'm seriously considering Hurn over Enright. Slightly cheaper, and could be set for a good year, but Enright is Mr Consistency

    • Matt says:

      Thing is with players like Mitchell, McVeigh and Enright that they've been scoring 90-100 averages for their whole careers, so you CAN rely on them. The other 500k+ players like Hanley, Birchall last year and Hibberd have had 1-2 good seasons. Hanley & Birchall tend to be tagged out of games and Hibberd's done his hammy, anyway.

    • WombatsFC says:

      I think guys like Mitchell or McVeigh or even bartell who will spend a lot of time in the middle can't really be compared to the other defenders. Everybody will have them by round 15 so how soon you get them will have great influence on how well you do for the season

  34. Daniel says:

    Everyones thoughts on Jackson Macrae? I think he could be a good breakout contender, also had a great NAB cup. We have seen second draftees breakout before like Wingard.

    • Dave says:

      Not a bad call considering the tag will go to Griffen or Libba…

      But you would have to choose him over the likes of Daisy Thomas and Shiels..

      If you went the approach of 4 Premos, 2 Mid Pricers and 2 rookie priced guys, you can fit him in.

      • Avzmo says:

        You've also got to consider that just as many players have second year blues as they do stellar second years. Just because Wingard did it, doesn't mean that Macrae will.

        But could be a fascinating POD

  35. Dave says:

    Is anyone putting Jack Martin in??

    • Avzmo says:

      I think people are turned off by his price and his lack of progress in the NAB Challenge. He will still score alright but there are so many mid rookies to consider that have showed good form in the NAB Challenge. Why would you want to spend another $50k for something that is looking quite average.

    • Super_Freak says:

      No, too many better options for less cash.

    • Shinboner says:

      Not me. I'm turned off by his price, rather than his NAB performances. He will be fed by Prestia, Ablett, Risch, Bennell and O'Meara this year, as opposed to the last NAB game where he had only Bennell.

  36. Rick Grimes says:

    What are communities thoughts on Trent McKenzie? Pretty solid last year, not gonna score huge but consistent.

    Also, Barlow or Fyfe? – can't separate them

    Also, keep coming back to Reiwoldt. Big ticker that bloke, scored very well early rounds last year from memory.

    • Avzmo says:

      I thought last year that his best years were behind him, I guess you can say the same about Boomer Harvey, but they just keep on keeping on.

      If you pick him you just have to hope that this isn't the year he starts to slow. Also I see St Kilda in more of a transitional phase this year and at the bottom of the ladder, so that could affect his scores.

    • Dave says:

      I think Reiwoldt will still average around 100 and I think hes a safe bet.

      But for that price I would rather save $100k or so and take a couple of risks with others..

    • Derek says:

      you said it "not gonna score huge"! spend your money elsewhere.

      I'm not going to have either, but if I had to I would easily go Fyfe.

      Roo is expensive. better return on your money with PAV or Buddy

      • Rick Grimes says:

        Agree on Pav, wait and see on Buddy. Burned me a bit last year and don't know how his scoring will be in the Sydney set-up.

        For defenders I prefer a steady output rather than 150 one week and 50 the next. 80 one week and 100 the next is a whole lot easier to plan around. Plus you pay for what you get.

    • Super_Freak says:

      I've had Mck on the radar for a while, just tossing up between him, Hurn, Swallow, Enright. Will probably come down to available cash after other lines are finalised.

    • Tylo says:

      Barlow = consistency
      Fyfe = riskier/higher potential

  37. Beard says:

    Who are people rating as the ruckmand sub 500k???

    Worked out sauce is Sam Jacobs, or Patty Ryder seeing Bellchambers is out?

    Or someone else?

    • MarcuJ says:

      yeah jacobs should be in for a good season, really hit his straps back end of last year.

      ive got sandilands in my squad, was fantastic last night and if he stays fit should dominate imo

    • Avzmo says:

      Defeinetely is a fwe more under that price. Mummy, Pyke and Lobbe are up for good years.

    • Super_Freak says:

      Reckon I'll go Jacobs/Sandi combo. Both looking good!

  38. Beard says:

    Also Polec or Aish or Beams?

  39. David says:

    This is my team for now, just seeing how the defense could be set up so there is't much risk in players starting in round 1.
    McDonald is in the midfield to swing Mitchell or Hanley

    i think these 3 defenders could earn some good cash $100,000 each at least
    Suckling 70-75 pts
    S.shaw 65-70 pts (Crows are going to use this guy all year, has plenty of spring in his legs, good in NAB so far and no Henderson!)
    R.Shaw 65-70 pts (could avg high 70's – low 80's, start with easy draw)

    Anyway here's a look:

    DEF Mitchell, Hanley, Enright, Suckling, R.Shaw, S,Shaw (Langford, Gorgiou)
    MID Ablett, Fyfe, Cotchin, Priddis, Beams, McDonald, Polec, X.Ellis (Crouch, Honeychurch)
    RCK Jacobs, Sandilands (Apeness, Nankervis)
    FWD Dangerfield, Martin, Franklin, Rioli, Rohan, JKH (Thurlow, taylor)

    This team is forever changing and rookies will changing the most I'm sure.
    Hope this is a good example of no risk defensive structure.

    • Avzmo says:

      Team looks pretty clean to me, a few PODS in the midfield and forward from what I've seen.

      Rhyce's consistency can be a problem, are you hoping for him to make you cash and trade up at some stage?

      • David says:

        We'll I feel that he would be most likely to cash in first seeing as Sydney have a soft start to the season hope he can avg 75+ after the first 5 rounds and snap take the money and run.

  40. Beard says:

    So after the help I have received tell me what you think of the new version lads.

    McVeigh, Mitchell, Hanley, Suckling, McDonald, Clurley – Langdon, Georgiou

    Ablett, Pendles, Cotchin, Beams, Thomas, Shiel, Polec, Ellis – Dunstan, Crouch

    Jacobs, Sandil – Thurlow, Nankervis

    Dangerfield, Martin, Franklin, Mitchell, Caddy, JKH – Merrett, Honeychurch

    15k in the bank.

    Thoughts?

    • Avzmo says:

      I like it, the one change I might make is to get Caddy out for a rookie, or cheaper option and trade up on Shiel or Thomas, the midfield is going to make the most of your points and you only have 4 elite/premos.

      Just my point of view, your way however will probably generate more cash so will be better for league wins because you might have the stronger squad come finals time, if your going for total points, you might want more premos early.

      • judd0 says:

        I agree and disagree with Avzmo, I agree because he is right. However what I think is making it hard this year is most of the good rookies so far are in the midfield and there is also some serious value in some premiums.

        So if you go in with a lot of premiums in your midfield you are cancelling out the rookies that are guaranteed game time and will make money. Hard decisions.

        Otherwise your team looks fairly sound to me.

  41. David says:

    Looking good so far

  42. matt says:

    hey people just wondering your thought on my teams

    Dreamteam
    def: Mitchell, walker, H.shaw, suckling, McVeigh, fuller (tippet, Langford)
    Mid: Ablett, swan, cotchin, J selwood, beams, Thomas, ellis, polec ( wanganeen, tyson)
    Ruck: Sandi, Mcintosh ( currie, longer)
    Fwd: danger, martin, franklin, m.wright, fasolo, rohan (honeychurch, kennedy-harris) $134,200 left over

    Supercoach
    Def: Walker, McVeigh, H.shaw, D.swallow, suckling, fuller (tippet, Langford)
    Mid: Ablett, pendles, murphy, beams, Thomas, Tyson, polec, ellis ( wanganeen, crouch)
    Ruck: Sandi, Mcintosh ( wood, currie)
    Fwd: Danger, Martin, franklin, watts, fasolo, rohan (impey, honeychurch) $130,600 left over

    think I got too many hawks players but they will go quickly before bye rounds

    • Avzmo says:

      Can't really speak for DreamTeam, but SC seems a bit all over the shop. As per jock's cheat sheets I think you'll lose value and be disappointed by Walker and H Shaw in D, your a bit shallow in mid, and Franklin besides your top two in the forward line, the rest are questionable. Rohan may be a good pick up, Franklin MAY do well, but not def.

      Id be looking to give this team an overhaul.

    • Derek says:

      you can never have too many Hawks :)

    • Shinboner says:

      Tippett is rookie listed.

  43. vinnymac says:

    Two premos not mentioned this year: Chris Judd and Matthew Boyd! After years and years of consistent premium output, both had an under-par 2013. Has anyone considered these veteran guns!?

    • Dave says:

      Matty Boyd Absolutely!

      Just really awkward price tag when you consider whos around him…

      Basically choosing 2 of Boyd, Fyfe, Cotchin, JPK, Rockliff, Watson and Libba.

      3 of those max…

    • David says:

      Considered Boyd but man that cash ouch at his age. Plus Libba, Cooney and Giff
      nah

    • Avzmo says:

      Will not consider either, they are both getting older and are being replaced by younger guns. They will continue to decline in value in my opinion.

    • Super_Freak says:

      It's a hard one, Murph will probably get the tag now, so Judd could go really well, but it's an unknown. They are in that awkward price bracket now where it's hard to guage if they will fall off, stay roughly the same, or possibly improve because other blokes are getting the tag.

      If they start well we can always trade them in I spose!

    • Shinboner says:

      Boyd's calves are as bad as Chappy's hamstrings. I don't let personal opinion get in the way, but I despise Judd (chicken wing). Regardless, he is getting on in age and will fail to eclipse last year's sub-100 average. Boyd is my choice of the two – still a proficient ball-winner and a key cog in the Bulldogs midfield.

  44. cyril is the man says:

    No, both over the hill and injury prone

    • Super_Freak says:

      Yeah, they did that with Simon Black. Maturity management, keep them off for 1-3 quarters then bring them on to have an influence. Wouldn't have thought Boomer was at that stage yet though. Don't think he'll see the vest too often.

  45. Jammo says:

    Jack steven out for 6 weeks

  46. @caldrenth says:

    Hey there community, My team is pretty much set, with only 1 problem. Who to go with M2. I currently have: Gazza, Watson, Beams, Murphy, Thomas, Polec, Michie, Ellis, Dunstan. So I can afford another rd8 bye midfielder, not round 9 and round 10 can fit in very well. I have 636k to spend on M2 and I am tossing up between Swan, Cotchin, Dal Santo and K Jack. Keeping bye rounds in mind, who would be the best out of these and other mid premos. Also I am not really looing at Dal Santo all that much, he's just in there due to his price.

  47. Philthy says:

    Never posted a team before but here goes…

    need a lot of help, reckon after 1000 tweaks i'm at my worst team yet!!!!! might need a reset! HEEEELLLLPPPP

    Mitchell – Hibberd – Enright – Suckling – McDonald – Clurey (Langdon, Cutler)
    GAJ – Priddis – NickDal – Beams – Shuey – Daisy – Polec – Xcel ( Dunstan, Crouch)
    Pyke – Sandi (Thurlow, King "0")
    Danger – Martin – Buddy – Gunston – Hawkins – Rohan (Apeman, JHK)

    <<<NOT FOR SALE> >> Mitchell, GAJ, Priddis, Beams, Shuey, Sandi, Danger, Gunston

    Go hard, be ruthless

    • Philthy says:

      OK so even writing that down helped me a bit…… maybe

      – just dropped Hibberd for Birchall
      – Apeman for a cheaper rook
      – upped NickDal to Mundy

      ???

    • Super_Freak says:

      Looks good, pretty std line-up except for a couple of inclusions/exclusions

      1. I would probably make some cash to have another elite premium in the Mid like Pendles or Jobe.

      2. I'm not a Hawkins fan, he's a KPF and was an absolute spud last year. I know he was carrying a back injury, but I just dont rate him that highly. Gunston is another KPF who could go well or poorly. I will be trying to steer clear of KPF at all costs this season as they have burnt me more than anyone else in my Supercoach Career.

      3. Cutler may not play R1 either, but all other rookies are on most peoples watch list.

  48. Jezza says:

    Thoughts community?

    DEF-Bartel,Mitchell,Enright,rance,Suckling, K Kolodjashnij (McDonald,Fuller)

    MID-Ablett,Cotchin,,Dal Santo, Hanley, Zorko, Aish, Sheed, Dunstan,(Crouch,Honeychurch)

    RUCK- Lobbe, Sandilands (Nankervis,Durrie)

    FWD-Martin,Dixon,Franklin, J Riewoldt, Rohan, Garlett, (Markworth, Kennedy-Harris)

    67k in the bank, not sure where to use it.
    Cheers

    • Higgs says:

      Its pretty good.

      Question mark over Lobbes NAB cup form.

      Biggest issues is Hanley in the Mids – forget about DPP. Downgrade to a rookie and upgrade a forward rookie to a premium. Forward rookies are looking pants atm

  49. Beard says:

    Really would like to see a lot of comments on this one.

    Ruckman to partner sandi…

    Lobbe? Jacobs? Hamish Mc? Ryder?

    Who you guys reckon is best value… I deadset will likely take the punt from you guys…

    • Higgs says:

      Minson for me for set and forget

      McEvoy for budget

    • Super_Freak says:

      I'll probably go Sauce. Looks pretty good!

    • WombatsFC says:

      I'm following a NO RISK strategy on the rucks and treating R1 & R2 as rook/wook slots and increasing my fwd and backline with guaranteed points from the saved dollars.
      Sandi & HayMac should both play the first 5 and I'll replace them as they fail.

      This is no risk because I'm not outlaying 1mil for 200 points in the ruck or gambling 600k on 'potential breakouts' in the backline or forward

      • Higgs says:

        Its a good strategy.

        I think everyone will start Sandi – and fair enough

        HMAC has harldy played in 2 years…. what kind of average and how many games do you think he will play this year?

        My guess 75-80 and 14 games

        • WombatsFC says:

          I reckon he'll be #1 at the Cats and should play every game if fit. The Cats have now lost Vardy and they dumped jpod to the crows and another ruck to up north. Hawkins's back is as solid as a politicians promise and the next tallest is Harry Taylor and he wont Ruck.
          Big Dawson just can't cut it and will only be a chop-out HayMac.

          Check HayMacs scores before his injury and remember that he was keeping Goldstien out of the Team I expect 110 over the first 5-6 weeks

      • CowboysCowards says:

        I like the strategy. Personally going hickey with sandi. Has got a couple of tons last year and should be #1 ruck at the saints this year. But like u say fail and move on.

    • BeagzBoyz says:

      Mumford for me, I just think as the number 1 ruckman at GWS he's going to average in the 95-100 range and for his price that's a great return. Averaged pretty good last year as number 2 ruck and floating forward.

  50. Higgs says:

    Thought i would get your thoughts on the bounty of midfield rookies.

    Rank the following:

    1. C. Beams
    2. J. Martin
    3. V. Michie
    4. Aish
    5. X. Ellis
    6. Polec
    7. Crouch
    8. Sheed
    9.Dunstan

    • Higgs says:

      Me personally would go:

      1. Polec
      2. Ellis
      3. Michie
      4. Aish
      5. Martin
      6. Beams
      7. Sheed
      8. Dunstan
      9. Crouch

      If i had to lock them in now

    • Danners16 says:

      1. V.Michie
      2. J.Polec
      3. X.Ellis
      4. L.Dunstan
      5. J.Martin
      6. M.Crouch
      7. J.Aish
      8. C.Beams
      9. D.Sheed
      Very tough with some of them.

    • WombatsFC says:

      I rank them all equally until I see the teams for Round 1

    • WombatsFC says:

      Based on what I saw in NAB I would say that Martin & Polec are a class above the others.
      This opinion isn't based on SC scoring potential but on the football brain and physical capacity that they have demonstrated so far.

    • Dee says:

      Polec, Michie, Martin, Dunstan…. Ellis bottom. Doesn't tackle, too much of an outside player! Risky picking him I reckon….

      • Higgs says:

        Interesting replies guys. Thanks.

        Im not sold on Michie myself – not much of a playing history on him… gotta get a game a MFC you would imagine.

        I was quite liking Ellis – had a good run with the hawks a while ago.

    • Shinboner says:

      1. Polec
      2. Aish
      3. Ellis
      4. Dunstan
      5. Michie
      6. Martin
      7. Beams
      8. Crouch
      9. Sheed

    • chandanrajdb says:

      IMO…..

      Polec
      V Michie
      X Ellis
      M Crouch
      J Aish
      Dunstan
      Sheed
      C Beams
      J Martin

  51. Beard says:

    By the sound of it mate people are jumping on Polec, Crouch, Dunstan & Ellis.

    Martin is a no go I think.

    Aish and Beams are good though Polec is rated higher.

    Michie don't know nor Sheed. Know who they play for though I'm going to run Ellis and Polec I think.

    • Higgs says:

      I rate crouch but I cant see him playing too many at the start of the year. I would take Martin over him for potential JS at this stage

  52. Chaz says:

    Hey guys, was going to run a bit of a quick public draft tonight at 8:15pm – league code is 444768 if anyone wants to get on board?

  53. Duncan says:

    If you have Jack Steven get him out of your side
    He has injured his foot at training and Will be out for 10 Weeks
    And Likey will not be back until the Byes

  54. @klavo25 says:

    Remember everyone, follow your gut instincts.

    Jock don't get me wrong it's great advice, but if we all follow it, its not going to help anyones overall rankings as we'll all have the same teams ;) need to think about getting ahead of the pack early. Can't go wrong having Ablett Pendles Rockcliff right from the get go! stick to your guns ;)

    • Higgs says:

      Gotta pick the nailed on keepers week 1.

      Go the zero risk option with your premos

    • jockreynolds says:

      You're spot on mate!

      • rollingthunder says:

        Yes thats it. It may get to a point that having Pendles and GAJ will be a POD and then you may well be ahead from round 1. How possible is it for GAJ to come out first 3 rounds and get 179, 134 and 127? Very Possible! And no reason why Pendles couldnt smash out a few 120 in the first 3. Crowley does nothing to Pendles scores for example.

  55. CowboysCowards says:

    Thought I would throw my whole team at the community for examination
    Mitch, mcviegh, hurn, swallow, McDonald, Langdon ( clurey, georgiou)
    GAJ, libba, cotch, murph, beams, daisy, l shiels, polec ( dunstan, crouch)
    Sandi, hickey (thurlow, Holmes zero)
    Danger, Martin, wingard, dalhouse, Rohan, jkh ( kersten, garlett)

    Trying to keep the squad chic full of mid fielders. No kps.
    Would appreciate any feedback
    Cheers

    • Higgs says:

      Pretty solid team.

      Presume SC or else i would not touch Hurn.

      Rucks could come back to bite you – esp if Sandi gets injured or Hickey averaged 55. Not much other options apart from a double trade.

      I like the POD forwards. Really on the fence about wingard – what a gun. May get a tag this year and being a young player could struggle to break it. Thats the only reason he isnt in my team at this stage

    • WombatsFC says:

      Excellent team except relying on one too many rookies to deliver points down back

  56. Joel says:

    Who does everyone think will be the equivalent of Josh Kennedy (WCE) this year? someone around that 200-300K mark that will bounce up to 400K+ by the end of the season, averaging 80 or 90ish along the way? I was thinking someone along the lines of Alex Fasolo or Troy Menzel, or perhaps even cheaper blokes such as Bock or Rohan?

    • Jimbo Jones says:

      I can't decide between Menzel and Caddy in the forward line. And now I've got Fasolo playing games with me. Decisions!

      • WombatsFC says:

        Yeah go Higgins Menzel wont do much and Caddy is 80k more

        • throttlefinger says:

          Think Caddy is worth the extra 80K, don't you? Cards lined up pretty nicely for Caddy to take his numbers way up.

          Regarding Higgins, I'm leaning toward his mate Hunter. DPP but $40K more. Did well in NAB.

          • WombatsFC says:

            Thanks mate, not much chance of covering up a POD game trail around here is there.

            • throttlefinger says:

              Hahahaha. Well done.

              Still have team 75% locked in, Wombats? I'm inching closer to that. Like you, Hibberd threw a bit of a wrench but figured out a save.

              • WombatsFC says:

                Nah I reckon I might be back to 65% locked. Hibberd has a pretty consistent relapse history so I've pretty much scratched him as a starter and Pittard looked like Andy Walker at his best (minus the muscles) which got me real interested especially when I consider Watson pumping out a 70+ ave in NAB and how important he is to the team. Then Parker got his eye poked out and Vardy did a knee a few blokes didn't get a run, Pendle got pregnant etc etc etc

                • throttlefinger says:

                  Yeah, yeah. Dramas like soap operas. As the Ball Turns.

                  I'm around 60% although forward line looking like it's firming up a bit.

    • Higgs says:

      Higgins —- Do it

  57. Dee says:

    Corey Enright or Harry Taylor down back lads, if you had to choose? Thank you…

  58. Dee says:

    Point taken throttle, thanks mate….. I don't know why H. Taylor doesn't have the FWD/DEF swing. If he did, he would have been a bloody lock in my defence. LOL Jammo…. Cats supporter are you mate?

    • throttlefinger says:

      Agree Dee. Gone back and forth between Taylor and Enright. But since I have other high risk/high reward players, good to have someone you don't have to worry about delivering.

  59. Dee says:

    Thoughts on Pavlich, Gunston and M. Wright? Choose one…… Is Pavlich going to play every week if fit or is Ross Lyon going to treat him with the Sandilands approach? Thanks community….

    • Higgs says:

      Pavlich to be safe I think.

      Should be a solid 85 averaged and is underpriced at this stage

    • Philthy says:

      Use the stats interface, tons % v <70% and SD…

    • Derek says:

      PAV is Locked in my team. Underpriced and a dead set Gun.

      Gunston will get a lot more attention this year. He is on all coaches radar plus buddy is gone so he will be getting key defenders. There are better at his price – Rioli if you like the Hawks

      Wright burnt me last year and he not be considered again

  60. Mish says:

    Thoughts and feedback appreciated….

    DEF – McVeigh, Mitchell, Swallow, Suckling, Darley, McDonald (Cutler, Fuller)
    MID – Ablett, Pendles, Rockliff, Beams, Savage, Aish, Polec, Sheed (Michie, Dunstan)
    RUCK – Goldstein, Sandi (Brown, Nankervis)
    FWD – Dangerfield, Martin, Dixon, Caddy, Rohan, Taylor (Garlett, Honeychurch)

    Cheers!

    • Higgs says:

      Darley – no for me. Struggled for games last year and on the fringe of the 22

      Savage – cant see him average over 80-85. Are would happy with that?

      Dixon – probably a good pick but inconsistant – got some sub 40's in him

      Other than that good (with rooks subject to change)

  61. Higgs says:

    Alright guys.

    What do you think about this team: Designed to take advantage or the depth or midfield rookies while minimising the amount of rookies on the field in the Def and Fwd (as they suck really)

    (This is a real DT team)

    DEF: S.Mitchell, J.McVeigh, Hanley, Swallow, Suckling, L.McDonald (Kolo, Culter)

    MID: Pendlebury, Ablett, D.Beams, Murphy, Michie, J.Martin, Polec, X.Ellis (Dunstan, Aish)

    RUC: Minson, Sandilands (Thurlow, Cheapy)

    FWD: Dangerfield, D.Martin, T.Mitchell, Zorko, Higgins, Rohan (Kerstan, Taylor)

    Now dont all just focus on Shauny "Soft Tissue" Higgins. What do you think of the team as a whole?

    • Derek says:

      you have spent big in DEF. makes the team unbalanced. Hopefully a rookie will emerge in Defence and you can trade either McVeigh or swallow (for me Hanley and Mitchell are LOCKED).

      going light in the MIDS is good to generate cash and upgrade to premiums before the finals. But you won't get the scores needed to have a high overall ranking. You need 100+ from all your MIDS from round 1.

    • vinnymac says:

      I would take out Swallow and replace him with one of Clurey, Langford, J. Taylor or Georgiou – potential Rd 1 players. That extra cash can be upgrade a midfield rookie to perhaps a dal santo or redden, two players who i believe will outscore swallow.

      Scores from rookies are quite random and that's why I'd rather keep consistent premos in my midfield. The downside I guess is that the def rookies may not increase in price as quickly as the playing midfiled rookies.

    • Avzmo says:

      I guess I can only point out what you already know and thats that your team is to small in the midfield. Essentially what you will be doing is sacrificing early points for cash generation but if you make finals in whatever league, you may have more cash towards year end to buy up more premos.

      This is probably not a strategy I would employ if you looking for total points over league wins.

      Also not set on Kolo up back, Martin in mid, Thurlow is rookie listed as well as Kerstan I think. So maybe some diff rookie options?

  62. Blair says:

    Which combo do you guys think has the most promise

    Marc Murphy (mid 5) and Tom Mitchell (forw 2)

    Or

    Luke sheils (mid 6) and Dustin Martin (forw 2)

    Dunno if it makes a difference to your opinion but I’m going

    without ablett and pendlebry…taking a risk with Rockcliffe as my no1

    but thinking it might pay off. Plus should make things pretty interesting.

    • David says:

      Brave or Foolish?

      Nah seriously no Ablett?
      People went off without him last year and after the first 3 rounds the people who didn't have him had to wait a long time to get him in.

      • Blair says:

        Starting to think more foolish than brave considering the comments back haha
        Not trying to win the whole thing and just thort it would make the whole year a bit more challenging.

    • WombatsFC says:

      Sorry Blair but everytime I try to reply to a comment containing the words "..no ablett or pendlebury.." the damn computer crashes. Must be something to do with the laws of physics and rational strategies for evolution of the species.

      • Blair says:

        Point taken wombat I here where your coming from. Maybe your computer has a virus??
        Hoping my forwards can make up the diff…
        Danger
        Martin
        Wingard
        Darling
        Wright
        Caddy
        Plus I wanted to slot Mitchell in there somewhere

    • NutSack says:

      No Ablett and no Pendlebury is like having no Smith and no Parker in NRL SC.

      These boys playing style is what SC seems to be based on and yes players like Jelwood and Danger and Watson etc can smash out big scores- and lil scores also like 67's etc. Pendles 20 tons last year and GAJ's 125+ 14 times last year means you are just missing out on the chance to double these great scores with little risk.

    • vinnymac says:

      murphy and mitchell. I like dusty, I'm not too sure about shiels

    • Avzmo says:

      Mitchell is an unknown he could be up for a big year this year, I'm considering both for my team. Murphy we are fairly sure will be a solid performer. Shiel is the one that has the real question. I don't think anyone truly knows if he will go back to the tag this year, in which case Option 1, if he gets let loose, your options are pretty even.

      I'd be looking to take at least one of Ablett & Pendles but I mean if you feel like your strat is THE ONE, who are we to say it isn't.

  63. David says:

    Priddis is UNDERRATED!

    Looked into this guy with allot of interest because i want the right West Coast midfielder
    2013 averaged 101.00 price 544,500k UNDER PRICED by 26k this year!
    Played 21 games of which 20 of them he scored (no shit) 86-129 points which is an average of 105.75 points if you don't count the 5 points he got against Port Adelaide in round 5 from concussion (thought he got shot it happened so quickly after the first bounce). This also did happen in 2012 against Essendon round 7 he only racked up 24 points.

    BLOW YOUR MIND:

    If you discount the 2012 and 2013 games where he was concussed, he has not scored a sub 80 score since 2010 round 17 making that 63 games straight.

    he didn't get the huge scores last year compared to his previous 2 years but all the West Coast midfielders were shocking mainly because they never had their best 22 players for most of the year.

    With all this knowledge on Priddis he's a lock in my team.

    • Higgs says:

      I have him last two years after he bottomed out after those knocks.

      But he isnt in the top 8 scoring mids.

      He is a very good consistant option but I would like to have my premos being potentially 110+ mids.

      • David says:

        Like his 2011 average 114 points and 2012 average 110 points (should have had an average of 113 that year)

        2013 he averaged 105.75 points effectively
        Last year like i said above West Coast struggled as a team last year by not having their best 22 for most of the year.

    • NutSack says:

      Maybe you shouldnt give away such secrets LOL- just joking.

      And heres a secret tip- that Mark Hutchings boy is an absolute machine and will destroy it in DT this year and will avge over 100 in SC too!

      • Goonar says:

        Good tip re Hutchings – a tackling machine and good kick to handball ratio, last two NAB games shown good signs, and for the games he played last year he had a pretty good average (this POD secret might now be out!). Throw GAFF in there as well after he did alright against the Swans tonight makes a few of the WC players not bad options along with a favourable early draw.

    • WombatsFC says:

      Excellent info David and there is no doubt that he's as reliable as the sunrise. I hope you post some more stuff like this cos it's gold!
      I jumped on him last year at some stage but it was the wrong time so shortly afterwards I severed the relationship.
      If I could wipe last year from my mind he'd be competing with Cotchin & rockliff for a spot in my team and I just don't have the confidence that the mop will do better than them

      • Higgs says:

        Priddis being unwilling to kick the ball at all and with bad efficiency when he does, often see his high DT score result in poor SC score.

        It is good info and I think you could do much worse at M6-8 at the end of the year than Priddis. I just dont have the confidence to start with him

      • David says:

        Cheers mate also have Ablett, Fyfe, Cotchin and Beams in the guts with swinging S.Mitchell and McDonald between def and mid.

    • Philthy says:

      He's been snug in my side from day 1 at that price

  64. Kudos says:

    Jack Redden is underpriced IMO.

    Needs to lift kicking efficiency, but is a tackling and clearance machine. Not many have mentioned him, bad draw, but I do feel he will lift his average.

  65. Give It A Go says:

    Hi Community,

    Heath Grundy scored SC161 points tonight, is he a regular player for the swans team?

  66. NutSack says:

    J Martin will be the biggest fantasy fail this year. He's just to small and too expensive. He could be one heavy tackle away from being crushed like a paper cup. Plus at his price he CANNOT score under 90 in his first 8 games- and I think he will be lucky to score 90 twice in his first 8 games. Is all just opinion but.

    However I am hoping that 50%+ of the teams start with him.

    I would bet that whoever wins SC this year wont waste the extra 100K and start with Martin.

    • Higgs says:

      The winner from 2012 says Martin is a lock for him.

      Im hoping for a 75-80 average with solid JS.

      Just because O'Meara and Wines were solid boys doesnt mean a smaller player cant excel.

      • Rocksta says:

        Polec alll day, all day before Martin!

        Agree the Lad has some awesome skills……………but simply too skinny for this year

    • WombatsFC says:

      I totally agree NutSack. He's an absolutely brilliant young footballer but not supercoach relevant this year.

      • David says:

        Wambats did you read my Priddis is underrated page just above
        let me know what you think

        means a lot more coming from you

    • Brandon says:

      Martin was a lock, until i saw him play in the NAB Challenge. Just looked to small for the elite level. Ill eat my words by saying this but there is plenty of better and cheaper talent out there (Polec, Beams, Mitchie…the list goes on). do you need him or do you want him?
      personally i chose the extra 40K which has allowed me to have 4 premium forwards and defenders with a solid mid and ruck
      money is so valuable in the game

  67. Sam says:

    Anyone have a decent supercoach league for me to join??
    Cheers

  68. NutSack says:

    I reckon theres many ways to pick a SC team so I will give a random list of names and see if you can see what they all have in common!

    Watson, Rocky, Swan, Danger, Martin, Hodge, Mitchell, Jelwood, GAJ, Pendles, Cotchin, K Jack, Mundy and Sloane.

    See if you can see what they have in common- and that reason is a very good reason why all of them could be in your team without a second thought!!!!

  69. WombatsFC says:

    I just want to clearup a comment I made about Jack Martin not being SuperCoach relevant.

    IMO Jack is the most talented 1st year AFL footballer ever.
    Team structure means that he won’t have the opportunities to show us just how good he is this year.
    If SC was fair he would have been a fwd or at least had DPP status in which case even at his record price he would be very supercoach relevant.

    • NutSack says:

      I dont reckon theres any need to defend your comment Wombats. He is and will be a great player but he is very small and the step up to playing AFL is totally different. When you get tackled you get slammed and pounded. It is top notch grade. He understands and knows the game and maybe he might just impress and his potential may be greater than Wines and Omeara but his lacking body MAY and probably will hold him back a year or two fantasy score wise. Maybe not. But Wines and Omeara just slot straight in to AFL and dont look like they could be broken in a tough tackle.

      And obviously it is yet to be proven he is the greatest 1st year footballer- but potential and success are 2 different things- and I cant see him having the same success year 1 as a Wines, Omeara or even a Zorko or TMitchell- but also that is just opinion.

      • WombatsFC says:

        Hiya NutSack,

        Everything you said about size is true but I remember a bloke called Paul Kelly who despite being the flimsiest midfielder of the modern era was also considered one of the toughest midfielders of the modern era; even got a Brownlow.
        The only reason Jack wont show how good he is this year is because it's in the best interests of the Gold Coast to hold him back from the heavy contact we all expect him to get.
        I reckon he's good enough to avoid the hits that can do him damage and if he was at StKilda or Melbourne he'd be in my team.

        • throttlefinger says:

          Great discussion, Wombats & Nutty.

          And agree if he were on a team that was rebuilding or didn't have as robust a midfield as the Suns, he'd be slotted in or considered more heavily. His price just makes it easier decision for me.

          • Derek says:

            it is just his price. If he was $117k we would all have him locked. Can't compare rookies for this year to past years because of the change in price

            • throttlefinger says:

              Well, there have been players like Daniher who came in at a 150+ price so I don't think that's true. they are just past the usual tolerance. But yes, $117K we'd all have him.

              • WombatsFC says:

                Other thread had a negative vibe.
                I'd take jack at 220k if he played for StKilda I reckon he'd be a bargain at that price, no subs and a major role. But he's not so I'll shutup:-)

                • throttlefinger says:

                  Which thread? All seems good. Unless my tired eyes are reading things wrong (from watching last two games live. 3am-5:30am).

                  220K at St Kilda or Lions he would be heavily considered. For 10K less, he would be a lock. Anything less than that he'd be worth it on the Suns, as his PT is fairly guaranteed. One of the few rooks that I'm sure will be a given R1 start.

                  • WombatsFC says:

                    Nahh its ok I re-read some post and thought they may been interpreted as aggression by people who who don't have kids and don't spend as much time here.

                  • WombatsFC says:

                    Totally off subject post and I apologise to everybody who thought that they might find some relevant SC info here.

                    Hey throttle being a brooklyner and an exrocker have you ever heard of a band called N.Y.Coil?
                    They played at CBGB's a few times in 2001 and the Bass Player/Vocals was HOT!

                    • WombatsFC says:

                      Yes it was a SHE

                    • throttlefinger says:

                      HAHA. Do you mean Lacuna Coil? http://goo.gl/F89EEk

                      Never played with but seen them before. Not bad. Lighter metal than I like.

                    • WombatsFC says:

                      Nah thats not her. Jamie Wanzan….? She was also the Mon-Wed late barmaid at Tracey J's. Had a great voice Bon Scott stage presence and would have been a star if she was in Aussie instead of NYC

                    • throttlefinger says:

                      Naw. Never seen her sing. Sounds formidable. And Bon Scott is probably at the top of my fav rocker list. We did a cover of Riff Raff.

                      I'll try to find some stuff on them. Do you know if they recorded?

                    • WombatsFC says:

                      I think they recorded at least one song. I remember the large breasted barmaid from City Crab having her cleavage photographed for a cover.

                      I grew up on AC/DC and first saw them in 1976 at the Eaglehawk townhall. I love Bons humour and poetry and consider the young brothers to be equal/superior to Bach as composers and the greatest electric guitarists ever.
                      Have a listen to Soul Stripper from High Voltage album and consider that Angus and Malcolm were late teens when it was written & recorded.
                      The guitar in that track exceeds anything from Pink Floyd, Led Zep, Dire Straits, Hendrix,Slash, BB King, T Bone Walker.

                    • WombatsFC says:

                      I once won the Karaoke contest at the 'Raccoon Lodge' on Amsterdam St with R.I.P as my wrap.

                      I think R.I.P came before Dylans wrap attempt.

                    • WombatsFC says:

                      The visionary part starts at 5:29

                    • throttlefinger says:

                      Will give SS a listen. Haven't listened to HV for a year. Amazingly don't have any at work. Will give it a listen this weekend.

                    • throttlefinger says:

                      Bon has few peers in the rock lyric category. "Ain't No Fun Waitin' Round to be a Millionaire" is so deliciously simple yet brilliant.

                      And Malcolm Young is a god. One of my favorite guitarists when I was learning. Took a simple construction and wrote 100s of not only amazing yet eternal rock songs. And Phil Rudd is the rock.

                      Hendrix is my favorite guitarist. For sheer innovation from style to riffs to tone, few equal. Like Angus but Jimi's on another level. Sure Angus would agree to that.

                      Had an AC/DC bottle opener on my keychain from late 20s to late 30s. Retired it after having the first young in.

                      Have a couple fantastic AC/DC bootlegs. Early 70s. Use to do a lot of trading with others who had soundboard quality rock boots. Most on cassette…gawd I'm old.

    • Bender says:

      Agree with both WFC and NS. He may turn out to be the best player in the AFL in 5 years time, but I can't see him having the same impact as Jaeger / Wines (big bodies in first year) or Zorko or Titch (mature age) in his first year. Especially playing forward for the Suns too. Jaeger played mid all year and there's no room for him there yet, so he will need to be kicking goals in the forward half of the ground to be justifying his price.

      • WombatsFC says:

        So we mostly agree that the bloke is brilliant but because the entire world can't understand how he could possibly survive the gladiators cauldron that is a centre bounce in Australian Football we are considering him to be non-relevant to our supercoach teams?

        IMO it's a genuine shame that the suns can't trust their judgement on drafting him.
        This kid has been kickingthearses of men twice his size for four years already.
        It doesn't matter how big the hits are if they never land and Gold Coast Football Club will do better if they can understand that.

  70. rusty says:

    BACKS:mcveigh , mitchell, hanley, suckling , Kolodjashnij, mcdonald, laidler, cutler MIDS:ablett, pendles, johnson, barlow, beams, thomas, shields, polec, aish, ellis RUCKS: mumford, sandilands, wood, nankervis FORWARDS: danger, martin, higgins, khj, impey, honeychurch, lyod dont know last one but have $123,000 in bank

  71. Dee says:

    What’s the story with K. Kolodjashnij? Is he in for round 1? Not looking good I think… Thoughts please!

    • Dave says:

      Did his hammy 2 weeks ago. Not sure how bad it was…

      Highly doubt he will play early rounds.

      But if he plays against Collingwood this weekend then hes a chance.

  72. Danners16 says:

    Hi fellas thoughts on team?
    Def-S.Mitchell, P.Hanley, C.Enright, T.McKenzie, L.McDonald, M.Fuller (T.Langdon, A.Georgiou)
    Mid-G.Ablett, T.Cotchin, N.Dal Santo, D.Beams, L.Shuey, D.Thomas, J.Macrae, V.Michie (X.Ellis, L.Dunstan)
    Ruck-B.McEvoy, A.Sandilands (F.Thurlow, T.Nankervis)
    For-P.Dangerfield, L.Franklin, D.Zorko, L.Dahlhaus, L.Taylor, D.Garlett (J.K-H, M.Honeychurch)
    I know there are some different picks but I just want some advice.

    • MarcuJ says:

      id be worried about that forward line.

      yes buddy zorko and dahlhaus could perform and do well, but they could also turn out a shocker. i think you need to upgrade one of them to a premo,
      also garlett wont get a run early by the looks of it

  73. Tom says:

    Defenders
    1. Bartel, J
    2. McVeigh, J
    3. Hanley, P
    4. Suckling, M
    5. Shaw, R
    6. McDonald, L
    23. Thompson, L
    24. Langford, W

    Midfielders
    7. Ablett, G
    8. Pendlebury, S
    9. Cotchin, T
    10. Beams, D
    11. Thomas, D
    12. Michie, V
    13. Polec, J
    14. Ellis, X
    25. Templeton, E
    26. Crouch, M

    Rucks
    15. McIntosh, H
    16. Sandilands, A
    27. Nankervis, T
    28. Smith, A

    Forwards
    17. Dangerfield, P
    18. Harvey, B
    19. Martin, D
    20. Roughead, J
    21. Fasolo, A
    22. Rohan, G
    29. Thurlow, F
    30. Kennedy-Harris, J

    Feedback would be great

    • MarcuJ says:

      its solid, only thing i would say is its prob lacking 1 pod selection
      harvey is a good one

      but that backline and midfield is very standard

    • WombatsFC says:

      Hi Tom,

      I reckon you might be a light in the middle 3 rook/wooks on the field is probably 1 too many. Like the call on big Archie for a bench spot he might suprise a few, it might be an idea to also put fraser on the ruck bench instead of foward. Makes it easier to upgrade a fwd to a ruck, vice versa not really relevant unless you have dixon

    • Jono says:

      Hi Tom

      Might wanna reconsider Brent Harvey
      ''I can't think of a better impact player than 'Boomer' coming on late in games,'' Scott said last year.

      ''I think that is the type of player, a guy who can carry the ball, can go up into the midfield, but also come back and kick or set up goals.

      ''He's pretty difficult to play on anyway because of his explosiveness. So, if he's coming on late in games fresh and other opposition players are fatigued, then he's going to be very hard to stop.''

  74. Knyvett says:

    Hey guys, I've been playing around with my team for the past couple of days now, Let me know what you think.
    Rookies are dependent upon round 1 selections, but I have ended up much by chance with a team loaded with midfielders, which I don't hate.

    BACKS: Bartell, Mitchell, Hanley, Suckling, McDonald, Clurey
    BENCH: Langford, Langdon

    MIDS: Ablett, Pendlebury, Cotchin, Beams, Dale Thomas, Shiels, Aish, Polec
    BENCH: Crouch, Dunstan

    RUCKS: Lobbe, Sandilands
    BENCH: Thurlow, Nankervis

    FWDS: Dangerfield, Wingard, Tom MItchell, Zorko, Rohan, JKH
    BENCH: Taylor, Garlett

    Cash Left $168,100

    I believe Thurlow is still rookie listed, but when do Essondon talls ever stay healthy.
    Garlett and Crouch may not play early, but they can change.
    Taking a chance on Zorko, MItchell and Shiels, but they my go before round 1 also.
    Should I spend the cash? if so where?

  75. Adam says:

    New rookie cheat sheet??

  76. Liberatore says:

    Thoughts on my team will be appreciated.
    Backs

    Mitchell
    Walker
    Swallow
    Suckling
    McDonald
    Clurey or Georgiou or another rook when i decide

    Midfield

    Ablett
    Pendles
    Liberatore
    Watson
    Beams
    Daisy
    Aish
    ellis

    Rucks

    Sandi
    Hickey

    FWD

    Dangerfield
    Dusty
    Gunston
    Dalhaus
    Rohan
    Kennedy harris

    all my benches will be rd 1 named rookies

    Obviously you can see my mids are very strong but i believe starting out strong with lib ablett pendles and watson i can see my team having 3 players averaging 115+ by rd3 and i see a lot of value in cheaper forwards and rucks to make up for it.

  77. cougs73 says:

    Gday there, just wanting to ask some feedback on 2 players i have put into my side…. B.Martin from adelaide and J Webster from Saints.

  78. Sam says:

    Not sure who to pick as R1 out of the following:
    Mcevoy
    Mumford
    Ryder
    Lobbe
    Jacobs

    Any help would be great, cheers!

  79. Harrison says:

    Apeness is my cover if Sandi gets injured or makes enough cash for upgrade to ???,.

    Zorko, Dahlhaus, could go either Mitchell/Parker?Franklin/Gunston?Bruest who knows

    Will bring Pendles in after R8 by upgrading 2 rooks to him + rookie

    My main goal would be to bring in Pendle, GAJ, Minson in around the byes

    Stacked my DEF/FWD with Prems/Midpricers
    Rucks Lobbe Sandi 80% sure it will work
    MIDS 3 rookies and 6 cash generators in the mid, also GAJ Fyfe Cotchin Libba JPK Murphy Thomas and Beams are all locks

    To look at after nab cub games
    Shuey???
    Dal Santo???
    T. Mitchell???
    P. Ryder???

    How could I manage picking up players like: PENDLES, Minson, Franklin, Ryder, , Dal Santo, DELEDIO throughout the season??

    Hope they drop in price: Pendlebury, Deledio, Minson,

    My team consists of 14 rookies, 11 Premiums, 5 Midpricers.

    DEF: Hanley Mitchell, Laidler Enright, C, McDonald. L, Langford, Georgiou. A, Clurey

    MID:
    Ablett, G, T, Cotchin, Kennedy Beams,Thomas Polec,J , Libbba,. Fyfe Dunstan, L, Ellis, X

    Rucks
    Hmac, Sandi, Thurlow, F, Derickx

    Forwards
    Dangerfield, Martin J,Dahlhaus. L,Merret Zorko, D, Kennedy-Harris, J, Kersten, S,Apeness

  80. Harrison says:

    Mistake * NO LOBBE in my team so HMAC and Sandi

  81. Chris says:

    Money and positioning aside, based solely on points, C. Beams or JKH? Basically I have Honeychurch in my forward line but was thinking of moving him to my Midfield emergencies instead of Beams and getting JKH instead. Any advice on that? First year playing… Thanks

    • SCKook says:

      Honeychurch didn't play NAB 1, didn't to a lot NAB 2. Beams should score well for a rookie price if he stays injury free.

  82. Mickey c says:

    Pretty happy with this, but think it needs work;

    Def-

    Mitchell, hurn, hanley, grundy, suckiling, kolo

    Subs- macdonald, laidler.

    Mid-

    Gaj, watson, cotchin, hannebury, beams, thomas, beams, ellis

    Subs- polec, dunstan.

    Ruck-

    Sandi, thurlow sub- currie, thurlow.

    Fwd-

    Dangerfield, mitchell, zorko, caddy, apeness, rohan.

    subs- garlet, kennedy harris

    Thoughts guys?

    • Swans says:

      Grundy is an intrseting left field option. Has averaged high 80's in the past and could play a different role this year due to Laidler's inclusion. Hannebery could have abreakout year but there are better options around his price such as Dal Santo and Murphy. Garlett wont play early so will have to offload him. Pretty good team though

      • SCKook says:

        Kolo for the Suns hasn't played in the pre-season, as far as I know. You also have two Thurlow's in the ruck.

    • Avzmo says:

      Seems a bit over the place, not sure if this will work.

      Grundy is too inconsistent for my liking and there is money better spent elsewhere, but if you are set on him then by all means go for the POD and hope for the best. Also as SCKook mentioned KK is untried. I feel like if your going to sink the money into premo rookies, you generally want them on the ground, so having $170k and $160k on the bench is a waste of money.

      Midfield is okay, but again you've sunk $170k into Polec and hes on your bench, if you are going to have a player on the bench why not take a Crouch who will make you more money?

      Sandi is obviously a good option, but not quite sure who your second ruck is, can't be Thurlow twice.

      Forward line isnt bad, I had thought about Caddy as a POD but not sure he will score consistently enough at this stage. Apeness on the ground? Are you sure he will be getting game time, and Garlett needs to come out as he wont be getting a game early.

  83. Luke M says:

    Thoughts on this as my supercoach. Looking closely at my back line and midfield and not sure if I need more premiums. Also not sure about where to make money for one, solid ruckman.

    Defense: D. Swallow, M. Suckling, L. McDonald, P. Hanley, S. Mitchell, S. Docherty (T. Cutler, M. Fuller)
    Midfield: G. Ablett, S. Savage, D. Thomas, V. Michie, J. Polec, L. Shuey, M. Murphy, D. Beams (L. Dunstan, M. Crouch)
    Rucks: T. Hickey, A. Sandilands ( T. Nankervis, P. Mitchell)
    Forwards: P. Dangerfield, C. Wingard, M. Wright, D. Zorko, T. Mitchell, L. Franklin (D. Garlett, J. Kennedy-Harris)
    16,600 left in the bank

    • SCKook says:

      Probably too much coin in the forwards – who, I think, are the most inconsistent scorers of all positions. I wouldn't go in without a quality ruckman – considering Sandi's injuries last year.

    • Avzmo says:

      Yeah you've definitely diagnosed this one yourself.

      Defense is passable, you have two 500k+ one mid 400s, then Suckling and Docherty, thats probably okay, if not gambling a bit on the fact that they shine.

      Midfield is a bit of a shambles, your putting all your eggs in the mid priced basket hoping that everything works out. I think out of Savage, Thomas, Shuey, Beams, Murphy, you should take three of them tops, and upgrade the other two to more premos. Your mid rookies are pretty good.

      I would then take a couple of the forward premos out to upgrade the midfield where most of your points are scored.

  84. SCKook says:

    G'day community,

    Not long until the real stuff now. Quick poll.

    Shuey and M Wright ….. or ….. K Stevens and Walters.

    Cheers!

    • vinnymac says:

      K Stevens and Walters! Stevens is going to be part of a team based on contested balls, he'll go crazy with tackles this year I think.

      Walters will have more opportunities this year since gumbo is out and pav is the main big man up front.

    • PJ8 says:

      Shuey and M. Wright

      Shuey is a gun, has averaged 106 in the past and will go more this year.

      Wright is a big break out contender. Averaged 136 in NAB games.

      Don't think the others will average over 90

  85. Avzmo says:

    Hello community,

    Looking for opinions on the following premo rookies.

    If I can pick two of the following three, who do you reckon.

    Polec J, Michie V, Tyson D

    At the moment I have Michie and Polec, just because they are 30k cheaper then Tyson, however I do have extra cash to spend at the moment.

  86. Gezzalenkos says:

    Hello,

    Thoughts on my side. Pretty happy with it but after feedback.

    Def: Mitchell, Hibberd, Hanley, Atley, Everitt, Langford (Clutey & Langdon)

    Mid: Ablett, Pendles, Cotchin, D.Beams, D.Thomas, Shiels, Martin , Polec (P.Cripps & Wanganeen)

    Ruck: Hickey, Sandi ( Thurlow, Derrickx)

    Fwd: Martin, Gunstan,Zorko, Cameron, Wright, Kennedy-Harris (McBean & White)

    Thoughts? Doubtful point?

    Cheers.

    • PJ8 says:

      Gezza,

      Looking good mate. Just a couple of things.

      – Hibberd has a hamstring injury and is in doubt for Rd 1, considering he is playing in the second week of Rd 1 he may not be worth picking as half the other teams will have played before you know if he is selected. Therefore possibly missing out on another player you would want.

      – Cameron I don't think will be a great SC scorer. He had a cracker of a year last year and only averaged 70 odd and can't see him as the sort of player that will do the things that will increase his scoring.

      Other than that it's pretty solid. Just gotta wait and see which rookies play

  87. Gezzalenkos says:

    Cheers, yeah I didn’t know about Hibberd so I’ll look to change. And I’ll Q Cameron ATM. Cheers

  88. Hayden M says:

    Hello, Thoughts on my side going into Round 1? Pretty happy but feedback is appreciated.

    Def: S. Mitchell, N. Malceski, L. Hansen, M. Suckling, S. Gilbert, S. Colqhoun (T. Simpkin, E. Wood)

    Mid: D. Swan©, G. Ablett(VC) S. Coniglio, R. Crowley, D. Thomas, J. Polec, H. O'Brien, J. Simpkin (V. Michie, X. Ellis)

    Ruck: W. Minson, A. Sandilands (B. Longer, S. Naismith)

    Fwd: P. Dangerfield, D. Martin, L. Franklin, A. Black, A. Fasolo, N. Kommer (N. Bock, G. Rohan)

    Thoughts or any changes? (Remaining Salary $9K)
    Cheers

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