Show us your team v2.0

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  1. @emhoy says:

    Defenders
    Andrew Walker [CAR]
    $572,500
    Jarrad McVeigh [SYD] [MID]
    $572,500
    Pearce Hanley [BRL] [MID]
    $516,200
    David Swallow [GCS] [MID]
    $429,400
    Kade Kolodjashnij [GCS]
    $197,300
    Luke McDonald [NTH] [MID]
    $182,300
    Joel Tippett [NTH]
    $123,900
    Matthew Fuller [WBD]
    $117,300

    Midfielders
    Gary Ablett [GCS]
    $695,000
    Jobe Watson [ESS]
    $601,300
    Trent Cotchin [RIC]
    $572,000
    Marc Murphy [CAR]
    $498,300
    Dayne Beams [COL]
    $497,200
    Dale Thomas [CAR]
    $341,800
    Jack Martin [GCS]
    $222,300
    Luke Dunstan [STK]
    $132,300
    Anthony Morabito [FRE]
    $123,900
    Dayle Garlett [HAW] [FWD]
    $117,300

    Rucks
    Matthew Lobbe [PTA]
    $464,400
    Brodie Grundy [COL]
    $363,300
    Toby Nankervis [SYD]
    $117,300
    Max King [MEL]
    $102,400

    Forwards
    Patrick Dangerfield [ADE] [MID]
    $609,000
    Dustin Martin [RIC] [MID]
    $549,200
    Jarryd Roughead [HAW]
    $531,300
    Jesse Hogan [MEL]
    $217,300
    Gary Rohan [SYD]
    $176,200
    Riley Knight [ADE] [MID]
    $117,300
    Lewis Taylor [BRL] [MID]
    $117,300
    Mitch Honeychurch [WBD] [MID]
    $117,300

    I have $4,900 left, should I start Danger I did last year and he dropped lots of cash early. Feedback would be appreciated.

    • throttlefinger says:

      Nice structure, emhoy. Very nice.

      FWD: Walker may not be worth the price. With a bolstered Blues team, can't see him doing the same numbers. Mitchell is tried and true, can handle the tag, mixes it up and rarely goes under a ton. Rest of your Defs are solid and can be adjusted given pre-season play and R1 selection

      MID: Really like this mid lineup. Hard to see any flaws. Murphy and Cotchin are sitting at a price WELL under their value. Murphy is back from injury and has better players around him. Cotchin will answer the bell to return his game to 2012 form.

      RUC: Saving money going mid pricers, but a good gamble with these two. They will carry the load and both have dynamic mids who will make their jobs easier. Could see big scores early. If one of them goes down or starts to burn, you won't have any coverage. That's the only concern there.

      FWD: Like Roughy choice. Thinking bigger year without Buddy hogging up the forward line? Hogan hurt himself but it isn't serious. Keep an eye on his pre-season form. Same goes with Rohan.Your F6 is the biggest concern of your team. You need to hope someone of that same value gets the nod R1. That's a big hope. Just have a backup plan if Lennon is the cheapest starter. ($162K)

      • @emhoy says:

        Thanks Thorttle, yeah ruck are risky I could go Nit Nat for Lobbe and change Cotchin to Shuey

        • Dools says:

          G'day emhoy
          Grundy and Lobbe are solid mate but if either one of these guys goes down you are relying on Nankervis to cover the hole
          By getting Nicnat you have not fixed the problem. But if he is fit get on him
          Dare I say GAJ gone and insert Pendles or Selwood in order to keep Cotchin

          • @emhoy says:

            Yeah good point about the rucks, I will stick with gazza otherwise I will have captain issues each week. I might reduce my back line spend and see if I can get a better balanced team.

    • marcus emmett says:

      too many premiums is your backline. put more money into your midfield or forward line

    • Nathan says:

      my team please rate BACKS- Bartel Mitchell Hanley Swallow Kolodjashnij ( k) McDonald Laidler Fuller
      MIDS- Ablett Dangerfield Fyfe Beams Murphy Morabito O'Rourke Taylor Martin (J) Ellis
      RUCKS- Grundy Sandilands Longer Nankervis
      FWDS- Martin (D) Franklin Garlett Zorko Honeychurch markworth Kenndey-harris Hogan

    • stelz says:

      My Team- Any thoughts, tips or advice?

      (ALL INTERCHANGES ARE CHEAPEST PLAYERS AND WILL PLAY IN CONSISTANT PLAYING INTERCHANGE OPTIONS AFTER ROUND 2 WHEN THE UNLIMITED TRADING PERIOD CONCLUDES)

      BACKS:
      – Jarrad McVeigh $529,900
      – Sam Mitchell $517,700
      – Luke Hodge $491,900
      – Matt Suckling $314,400
      – Tom Cutler $176,000
      – Jeremy Laidler $135,500
      – INTERCHANGE: Joel Tippet $115,200 and Tom Vandeleur $115,200

      MIDS:

      – Gary Ablett $621,200
      – Scott Pendlebury $611,200
      – Nat Fyfe $530,900
      – Trent Cotchin $511,300
      – Dayne Beams $498,800
      – Marc Murphy $463,500
      – Dale Thomas $346,400
      – Clinton Young $218,300
      – INTERCHANGE: Alex Woodward $115,200 and Daniel Robinson $115,200

      RUCKS:

      -Shane Mumford $423,000
      – Aaron Sandilands $244,500
      – INTERCHANGE: Daniel Currie $115,200 and Fraser Thurlow $115,200

      FORWARDS:

      – Patty Dangerfield $534,700
      – Chad Wingard $474,000
      – Jarryd Roughead $470,100
      – Buddy Franklin $426,500
      – Dayne Zorko $400,100
      – Mitch Honeychurch $135,500
      INTERCHANGE: Daniel Markworth $115,500 and Shane Kersten $115,500

      Your help would be awesome, any feedback or tips?

  2. Boydo says:

    McVeigh,Mitchell,Swallow,Suckling,Buntine,Kk,(McDonald,Fuller)

    Pendles,Selwood J,Beams D,Shuey,Thomas D,Martin J,Tyson, Beams/Aish

    (Polec,Moriabito)

    Goldy,Lobbe. (Apen,Lobb/Nan)

    Danger, Martin,Franklin/Parker, Clarke, Hogan,Gartlett

    (Taylor,Honey/Kersten)

    Thoughts ? Help?

    • throttlefinger says:

      Lots of bold moves and strong picks, Boydo. Of the big DEFs, most seemed picking Bartel so McV could be an inspired choice. Buntine! Man, that wild pick for someone with 3 games (but hit a ton in one of them). Could be a great call. Got me thinking about that. Strong Def reserves. Both will get playing time, given their teams.

      Shuey could be another sleeper pick, especially with WCE having an favorable SC schedule. X. Ellis is another you may want to consider for M7-8.

      Strong rucks. Can't see Goldie averaging less than 105. Lobbe will carryover his end of season form and tear it up.

      Fwds are good. May move Gartlett into reserves. Probably won't get on early with the defending champs. Suggest Lennon, who should get R1 playing time. Another to consider is Nahas. Strong goal sneak who may make his way into Roos starting lineup.

      • Boydo says:

        Thanks Throttle Is Lennon really likely to play forward and help ruck with Maric? If so he could be a huge cash cow!! A lot of teams seem to have Cutler lion rookie defender. Is there any word of him getting playing time, I can’t find it anywhere??

        • throttlefinger says:

          Hampson will share ruck with Maric. Lennon is a rook with a marksman's aim that my dear Tiges desperately need in their front line. From all that I've read, he's been looking good in training and will probably get some R1 time. Nothing is for sure. But likely. And at that price, even if he doesn't, you could find someone else at that price.

          Cutler I have on my rooks to watch. Here's what I've read about him…all place him as a strong smokey. http://goo.gl/Ihu5v1 http://goo.gl/ehh9iI

  3. Mitchell, Sam (MID) $562,000
    Hanley, Pearce (MID) $516,200
    Henderson, Ricky $460,000
    Swallow, David (MID) $429,400
    Suckling, Matt $312,200
    McDonald, Luke (MID) $182,300
    Laidler, Jeremy $161,800
    Fuller, Matthew $117,300
    MIDFIELDERS
    Selwood, Joel $638,700
    Rockliff, Tom $591,500
    Fyfe, Nathan $574,300
    Beams, Dayne $497,200
    Thomas, Dale $341,800
    Martin, Jack $222,300
    Aish, James $187,300
    Tyson, Dom $216,800
    Michie, Viv $172,600
    Ellis, Xavier $159,100
    RUCKS
    Naitanui, Nic $518,800
    Sandilands, Aaron $310,700
    Currie, Daniel $123,900
    Nankervis, Toby $117,300
    FORWARDS
    Dangerfield, Patrick (MID) $609,000
    Martin, Dustin (MID) $549,200
    Franklin, Lance $487,700
    Caddy, Josh (MID) $325,300
    Rohan, Gary $176,200
    Billings, Jack (MID) $207,300
    Taylor, Lewis $117,300
    Garlett, Dayle (MID) $117,300

    If Either Thomas is unfit I would swap CAddy for another rookie and upgrade to a premo
    if sandilands unfit chuck in Mcintosh
    Not sure whether I should go with Fyfe or Cotchin

    • Bye outs go 10,8,13
      but have 8 rookies to upgrade who have the round 10 bye which means ill probebly plan to trade maybe all three for upgrades that round

      • throttlefinger says:

        Daaaaaaaamn. This is a bull strong pre-season lineup, MClunge.

        To your fixes, I think the backup plan is sound with Caddy for unfit Daisy and McIntosh for Sandi (you could also use Hickey or Longer…or get Grundy if you can). May want to consider Apeness for your reserve. Probably get time with Clarke and Sandi nursing their current/inevitably injuries.

        Since you have a lot of round 10 byes, maybe use Cotchin. Feel both are going to have massive years. Docs have a harder schedule. I'm going with Fyfe but I have too many 8 round byes.

        Like Billings yet be prepared for him not making first round due if his pre-season injury is lasting. But at that price, you could probably replace fairly easy. (Bock, Lennon, Nahas)

    • kim says:

      no ablett or pendlebury? your midfield is where the majority of the points are scored, yes they are both expensive because they are bloody consistent and score lots of points not too mention the captaincy. . There is no point in having a backline or forward line that is a little stronger but a weaker midfield as its going to cost you a lot to upgrade to premiums later on not too mention all those lost points. Personally I would have more premo's and super premo's in your midfield.

    • Jamie says:

      hey pretty good team there, similar to mine! Midfield very good, although not sure if selwood, will be primed for round 1, i'll look to upgrade him during the year (At this stage im going ablett to start). Rockliff could be near top of the s/c tree at end of year if he plays perm midfield. Fyfe is the man, he is my fav for brownlow. Maybe 4th ruckman pick a r/f for more versatility. not sure about billings for his price. Dunstan in mid for 132 an option, maybe for Tyson. I have aish/ ellis, but closely watching beams/ sheed. finally I'm not sure about nic nat fitness, consider lobbe or mumford. That said, I think you'll go very well this year, good luck!

  4. Boydo says:

    Who’s idea was it to have Collingwood GoldCoast Geelong Adelaide and Richmond as Round 8 byes. They should have checked with us fantasy players first.
    Mid Ablett, Pendles,Swan,Beams,Selwood,Cotchin,J Martin,
    Fwd: Dangerfield, Martin, Caddy,
    Causing headaches and/or changing midfield players as having to choose non super elite mids.

  5. bloke says:

    DEF: McVeigh, Mitchell, Enright, Suckling, K Kolojasnij, Mcdonald (Fuller, Langdon)
    MID: Pendles, Jelwood, Watson, Beams, Daisy, J Martin, Tyson, C Beams (Morabito, O'Rourke)
    RUC: Lobbe, Sandi (Currie, Nankervis)
    FWD: Danger, Dusty, Parker, Zorko, Lamb, Bock (Taylor, Garlett)

    • throttlefinger says:

      Bitchin side Bloke!

      Like Enright. I've been considering him or Taylor as D3. Could be one of those inspired picks that separates you from the pack. And he's a proven scorer. Mids, can't find anything to comment on. Even if Tyson and C. Beams preseason form doesn't impress, both prices you'll be able to find a good replacement. (Ellis, Aish, etc)

      Rucks are probably your weak spot. Putting Lobbe as R1 is a bold move. As your R2 is probably more sensible. But if you want to take a risk, think Grundy is going to pay off more than Sandi. Just can't see him playing more than 10-13 games. For that to pay off, he's gotta go ton-wild those games. Don't know at his age if that's gonna happen. Consider Apeness in reserve for this reason.

      Zoooooooooorko! (said in James T Kirk voice from "Wrath of Khan"). Had him last year and his name is still branded across my turdcutter. Motlop may be the less risky and bolder choice. Lamb and Bock are wait and see but good placeholders. Will be able to replace if they don't work out.

      • bloke says:

        Yeah my rucks aren't really settled. Lobbe could be any RUC around 500k. R2 will be Sandi, McIntosh or Grundy. I didn't get burned by Zorko last year (didn't have him) and read that he could average close to 100. Cheapies could all change easily

      • Dools says:

        Hahahahahah I have a name for my SC Pain ZooooRKo…

  6. jazzy says:

    DEF: Mitchell, Hibberd, Hanley, Kolodjashnij, Scharenberg, Mcdonald (cuttler, fuller)
    MID: Pendles, Rockliff, Prestia, M Murphy, Beams, Shuey, D Thomas, Martin (Orouke, Crouch)
    RUC: Minson, Sandy (Lobb, Nankervis)
    FWD: Danger, Martin, Dixon, Hogan, Broomhead, L Taylor ( Garlett, Honeychurch)
    thoughts?

    • throttlefinger says:

      Lot of risks here, Jazzy. Some good and some maybe too risky.

      Like the Hibberd call. Haven't seen him in a lot of lineups. Given the cloud over the Bombers, could come out like gangbusters. Schranberg is nursing a bum foot. Plus getting into the Pies lineup R1 is a lot to ask even if fit. Laidler may be an option.

      Mids: Prestia great call. He and Bennell could have breakout years. Beams AND Murphy really make your M1-5 potent! Shuey is also nice pick due to WCE favorable opening. Orouke and Crouch probably won't see the field this year but you can fill with at least one that looks good in preseason and might make the early round lineups.

      Minson and Sandi. Be prepared for Sandi not going past 10-13 games. You need a swing to bring Dixon up if need be OR get Apeness who probably get some PT with Clarke and Sandi most likely not being a full strength for part/most of the season.

      Forwards are good. Think your F4 should be stronger. Mitchell, Parker. Even Chappy. Hogan is a solid F5 not F4 pick, IMO. You may have to downgrade one of your mids to make that happen though. Broomhead and Taylor, not sure if they'll make the cut the first round. And at those prices you may be left stranded. Would try to restructure your Mids so you can beef up and have more flexibility in your Forward line.

  7. Mark says:

    DEF: Bartel,Lumumba, Watts, Suckling, K.Kolodjashnij, McDonald, Langdon, Fuller
    MID: Pendlebury, Swan, Murphy, D.Beams, Adams, Bell, Martin, Aish, C.Beams, P.Cripps
    RUC: B.Grundy, Hickey, Apeness, Currie
    FWD: Dangerfield, Wingard, Franklin, Chapman, Zorko, Freeman, L.Taylor, D.Garlett

    • theazzyg says:

      Nice team there mark but I feel like having all 3 collingwood midfielders would be a mistake, Especially when you could get other players from other teams equally as good as if not better then swan. That's only my opinion though. How much cash did you have leftover?

  8. theazzyg says:

    Hodge, Luke (MID) $521,600
    Hanley, Pearce (MID) $516,200
    Swallow, David (MID) $429,400
    Kolodjashnij, Kade $197,300
    Shaw, Rhyce $299,400
    Cutler, Tom $117,300
    Docherty, Sam $285,000
    Fuller, Matthew $117,300
    MIDFIELDERS
    Ablett, Gary $695,000
    Pendlebury, Scott $683,100
    Fyfe, Nathan $574,300
    Thomas, Dale $341,800
    Beams, Dayne $497,200
    Murphy, Marc $498,300
    Dunstan, Luke $132,300
    Polec, Jared $172,600
    Honeychurch, Mitch (FWD) $117,300
    McDonald, Luke (DEF) $182,300
    RUCKS
    Leuenberger, Matthew $523,500
    Goldstein, Todd $612,400
    Nankervis, Toby $117,300
    Leslie, Jack $122,300
    FORWARDS
    Dangerfield, Patrick (MID) $609,000
    Martin, Dustin (MID) $549,200
    Garlett, Dayle (MID) $117,300
    Taylor, Lewis (MID) $117,300
    Caddy, Josh (MID) $325,300
    Hunter, Lachlan $284,700
    Fantasia, Orazio $117,300
    Kersten, Shane $123,900

    This is my very rough draft, a lot of rookies at the moment, few smokies that may or may not be in there by Round 1 pending NAB form and teamsheets.

    • Peptides FC says:

      Nice team but a bit too top heavy in the midfield.
      Yeah due to increase in rookies pricing you may want to get rid of an Ablett and use some of the cash to upgrade some rookies. Pendles, Fyfe, beams, danger more than enough to put the c on. Also maybe look to ditch maybe a leunburger for somebody who presents more value such as Lobbe, sandilands, Mcintosh.
      I'd also think about upgrading hunter with that spare cash to maybe a franklin or Rioli

  9. Dools says:

    Hi Mark
    R U a Pie fan?
    I think you have sacrificed across too many lines with maybe players for Very strong Mid and Fwd line

  10. SCMania says:

    I'm really happy with my side at the moment but I'm not settled with my rucks, everybody says Goldstein is too pricey but if I have the money would he be a better option than Mummy? Thanks!

    • Dools says:

      Hi SCMania,
      Goldy is worth every cent mate he is a set and forget if you have him and your happy with your team then Lock him in.
      I think Mummy has to regain 2012 form in order to get a look at and will he share the Ruc role ?

  11. Loz says:

    DEF: Mitchell, Adcock, Swallow, Suckling, Kolodjashnij, Cutler (Fuller, Langdon)
    MID: Ablett, Pendles, Watson, Murphy, Beams ,J Martin, Aish, McDonald (Dunstan, Taylor)
    RUCK: Lobbe, Sandi (Brown, Nankervis)
    FWD: Danger, Dusty, Motlop, Crameri, Lamb, Hogan (Broomhead, Kersten)

    $129K left.

    Will watch Sandi pre-season – he may become Grundy.

  12. Benno says:

    Any help/feedback/tips/suggestions/advice/rates etc would be great. Will return the favour and take a look at you side. Cheers

    Mitchell, Hanley, Swallow, Suckling, Kolodjashnij, McDonald (Kolodjashnij, Fuller)

    Pendlebury, Fyfe, Murphy, Beams, Shuey, Thomas, Martin, Michie (Dunstan, Gartlett)

    Lobbe, Sandilands (Brown, Nankervis)

    Dangerfield, Martin, Dixon, Hawkins, Caddy, Clark (Kersten, Taylor)

    $6,500

    • Max says:

      Hey Benno!
      Good looking team you have here! There are a lot of good rookie options in the midfield so maybe move out Murphy, Shuey or Thomas.. Midfield should be your main area of cash flow! Lobbe is an interesting pick maybe not consistant enough for R1 yet? Have a look into others. Stacked forward line, I like it but beware that there are more rookie options up forward than up back. But more research on your rookie options and you're there!

    • curtmer says:

      Like Hawkins as a p o.d in the fwd line. underpriced and will lead cats fwd line. Looking fitter and not as troubled by the back compared to 2013. Good to see Dixon as cover for rucks too.

  13. Ben says:

    1. Bartel, J
    MID
    $572,500
    SYD X
    2. McVeigh, J
    MID
    $522,600
    GWS X
    3. Shaw , H
    $516,200
    BRL X
    4. Hanley, P
    MID
    $312,200
    HAW X
    5. Suckling, M
    $192,300
    COL X
    6. Scharenberg, M
    $117,300
    BRL X
    23. Cutler, T
    $117,300
    WBD X
    24. Fuller, M
    $695,000
    GCS X
    7. Ablett, G
    $683,100
    COL X
    8. Pendlebury, S
    $497,200
    COL X
    9. Beams, D
    $464,400
    ESS X
    10. Chapman, P
    FWD
    $341,800
    CAR X
    11. Thomas, D
    $222,300
    GCS X
    12. Martin, J
    $216,800
    MEL X
    13. Tyson, D
    $179,100
    MEL X
    14. Blease, S
    FWD
    $172,600
    MEL X
    25. Michie, V
    $123,900
    FRE X
    26. Morabito, A
    $518,800
    WCE X
    15. Naitanui, N
    $310,700
    FRE X
    16. Sandilands, A
    $117,300
    NTH X
    27. Brow n, B
    FWD
    $117,300
    SYD X
    28. Nankerv is, T
    $609,000
    ADE X
    17. Dangerfield, P
    MID
    $487,700
    SYD X
    18. Franklin, L
    $249,200
    MEL X
    19. Clark, M
    $217,300
    GWS X
    20. Boyd, T
    $217,300
    MEL X
    21. Hogan, J
    $141,300
    GEE X
    22. Menzel, D
    $123,900
    COL X
    29. Broomhead, T
    $117,300
    WBD X
    30. Honeychurch, M

    253,800 in the bank

  14. meanieoh says:

    DEF: Bartel, Shaw, Birchall, Suckling, Kolodjashnij, McDonald (Langdon, Fuller)
    MID: Liberatore, Mundy, Murphy, Beams, Bell, Martin, Aish, Beams (Michie, Dunstan)
    RUCK: Lobbe, Grundy (Apeness, Currie)
    FWD: Dangerfield, Wingard, Franklin, Chapman, Caddy (Close, Kennedy-Harris)

    $14,000

    I had a look at the posts above, and then mixed some players in that I've been watching and this is what I came up with.

    This will no doubt change repeatedly, so feel free to pick it to pieces.

    • Peptides FC says:

      Not bad for a quick mosh match but lots of things to improve.
      I wouldn't chuck shaw in, read the rock reynolds write up on him.
      Liba I'm not to sure how much he costs but would look for a pendles or selwood to give the captain option. Instead of Mundy I'd go Fyfe or Cotchin because they both present great scoring potential and likely improvement this year. I'd also swap chappy for a rookie priced player which would give you cash to make these changers

    • kim says:

      strong backline and forward line, but again the midfield is where the bulk of your scoring needs to be and the hardest to upgrade, you need pendlebury and/or ablett at least joel selwood otherwise who is going to be your captain each week? sacrifise chapman in forward line for a rookie and upgrade bell to a super premo otherwise I think your midfield will struggle.

  15. Jake says:

    Which one out of Xavier Ellis, Dom Sheed, Anthony Morabito, Jared Polec or Claye Beams would everyone recommend?

    • Dools says:

      Good Q Jake
      They all have upsides but i think Polec would be an excellent pick as an M8 as would a fit and firing Ellis
      But thats just what I reckon mate

    • bloke says:

      Morabito and Claye Beams will be best 22 in there teams if they are fully fit. Sheed and Ellis may not play round 1 and Polec MAY get the sub vest. Mora is way cheaper than the rest so I'd go (and did go) him

      • Dools says:

        Agree with you mate but this far out maybe they can get up in time. What do you reckon mate?

        • bloke says:

          True. All speculative until Nab Challenge. All will play in the year at some point. O'Rourke is another who is cheap compared to other rookies. If Ellis doesn't play round 1 I think it will be difficult for him to break into the Eagles team. Sheed will play

    • Boydo says:

      I would pick Beams if all named round 1 2nd choice Polec

  16. Woodman says:

    Def: Thompson, Simpson, Hurn, Docherty, kolodjashnij. K, McDonanald.L (M.Fuller, T. Cutler)

    Mid: Ablett, Pendlebury, Griffith, Beams, Murphy, J.Martin, D.Tyson, C.Beams (J. O'Rourke, L.Taylor)

    Rck: Lobbe, Sandilands (F. Thurlow, T.Nankervis)

    Fwd: Dangerfield, D.Martin, Franklin, Kennedy, Hogan, S.Kersten (D.Gartlett, J.Kennedy-Harris)

    $3600 left over. Thoughts?

  17. Rosco says:

    Def: S.Mitchell P.Hanley M.Suckling K.Kolodjashnij J.Laidler M.Fuller (T.Clurey, T.Cutler)

    Mid: S.Pendlebury, J.Watson T.Rockliff, M.Murphy D.Beams D.Thomas J.Martin C.Beams (L.McDonald, D.Garlett)

    Ruc: M.Lobbe A.Sandilands (B.Longer D.Currie)

    Fwd: P.Dangerfield , D.Martin , L.Franklin M.Clark A.Fasolo N.Bock (G.Rohan, L.Taylor)

    • Rosco says:

      Got $196,000 left, bye structure pretty even, gone for returning players over rookies this year as they seem to offer more value. Thoughts would be appreciated

      • bloke says:

        Backs could do with another mid to high pricer I reckon, and I'm not sold on Fasolo. Mid rookies would score more than forwards and backs so maybe sacrifice Murphy to get in someone like McVeigh into the back line and another rookie in the MIDs. Michie, Morabito, Polec and the like. Put McDonald on the field and one of those on the bench.

        • Ross says:

          Thanks. New team $233,000 left
          Def: S.Mitchell P.Hanley R.Henderson, M.Suckling K.Kolodjashnij J.Laidler (M.Fuller T.Cutler)
          Mid: S.Pendlebury J.Watson T.Rockliff D.Beams D.Thomas J.Martin C.Beams J.O’Rourke(L.McDonald D.Garlett )
          Ruc: M.Lobbe A.Sandilands (M.Apeness D.Currie)
          Fwd: P.Dangerfield D.Martin C.Dixon L.Franklin N.Bock G.Rohan (M.Honeychurch, L.Taylor)

          • bloke says:

            I like it. Can't believe you still have 200k left. Henderson could make a very good POD. Rookies are good from what I've read about them. If anything, look to spend half of that remaining cash, possibly up forward. Although that could be my inability to have that much cash laying around.

          • Ross says:

            Not holding on to cash hurt last year especially when a premium goes down, gets a sub affected score, loses $50k and you can’t replace him with a player of similar quality.
            Thanks for your input.

  18. Paul says:

    Def – McVeigh.J, Hanley.P, Suckling.M, Docherty.S, Scharenberg.M, McDonald.L (Kolodjashnij, Fuller)

    Mid – Griffen.R, Watson.J, Fyfe.N, Beams.D, Mitchell.T, Swallow.D, Thomas.D, Aish.J (Ellis.X, Morabito.A)

    Ruc – Lobbe.M, McIntosh.H (Apeness.M, Nankervis.T)

    Fwd – Dangerfield.P, Martin.D, Tippet.K, Kommer.N, Karnezis.P, Billings.J (Paine.J, Garlett.D)

    Thoughts or advice? Am relatively new to SC.

    • lostlarrikin says:

      Not bad 1st effort Paul.
      Def could use another prem, although many are loading up on KK, Fuller and McDonald rooks.
      The likes of Swallow and Mitchell would be better used in their alternate dpp slots.
      Will need to keep a watching brief on many of these guys i.e. Thomas, Ellis, Kommer, Karnezis as injury and form has restricted them in recent history.

      As for TipRat up fwd, not for me with Buddy vying for points.

      • Paul says:

        Thanks lostlarrikin, gives me something to work on. Am up against some seasoned SC players this year & whilst not expecting to take them out, would like to be competitive. The only reson I went with the tiprat is that I've read that he may spend some time in the ruck. Will look at other options though, especially after seeing some NAB form. Cheers mate!

  19. jimbotraralgon says:

    hi guys.

    new thread and time to update the side. feeling a little more steady with this side now.

    d/ McVeigh, Mitchell, d swallow, suckling, KK, McDonald (Fuller, Langdon)
    m/ gaz, pendles, d beams, smurph, daisy, martin, polec, c beams (aish, O'Rourke)
    r/ nicnat, sandi (longer, P Mitchell) – p Mitchell is the captain loophole
    f/ danger, dusty, buddy, l parker, Hogan, kersten,(L Taylor, Garlett)

    only $3300 in the kitty. Hogan and Aish will give way if I need to make changes with non starters.

    Really happy with the midfield although I realise that daisy and sandi underpin the whole structure. If they don't get up some wholesale rework might be in order including no GAJ to start.

    Anyway, thoughts?

    • lostlarrikin says:

      Hey Jimbo,
      Looks pretty sweet.
      You got any mail on Hogan and Kersten?
      Watching the DeeTV snippets with Roos saying that any game time for 1st yr players is a bonus. Not sure if Hogan fits that mould.

      I have made my views on Swallow clear (see below) but just as likely to prove me wrong and go bang!
      My only other concern is Nic Nat, i'm seeing lower risk and similar output from cheaper rucks.

      I really hope O'rourke gets some decent game time this yr

      • jimbotraralgon says:

        Hey Mate.

        No real inside news other than whispers from this site and other sites.

        I really just cant see why Hogan wouldn't be given a shot at the start of the year. Melbourne are in a bit of a different situation to Essendon last year and how they treated daniher. There isn't much too lose for Roos to give him on the job training. He's had a full year in the VFL so playing more games there isn't really going to help. He has a mans body so he is ready to go. Nothing solid but for me, signs suggest that he will get a go. And if he doesn't get a go for round 1, then he is a place marker in the side that is a little dearer and I can trade down to Bock or Rohan (which I might still do).

        Kersten is slightly more speculative. Had a solid season in the VFL last year and there is a vacancy up forward with Pods and chappy moving on. I've heard Vardy will play forward with Hawkins as the two towers and Kersten could be the 3rd tall swingman option (aka gunston for the hawks). I think he will get a go early on. The risk is if he doesn't make a fist of it he's played 2 games and is now stinking up the forward line as a non-playing bench. But at that price I think he is as likely as anyone else.

        Hope that helps.

        • Dools says:

          G’daay Boy’s
          Kersten is a smokey at the moment- I do not think he is in the top 25. Methinks Bartels is the one to go fwd to aid the big fella Geelong have 8/9 to pick from in def ….Ummhh but this is all second or third hand info so Kersten ATM is smokie

          • lostlarrikin says:

            Great stuff guys, this is the rub we want.
            This is what show us… has got to be about when talkin rooks.

            Yeah my point on Hogan was that he may be a 1st yr player but as per Mr. Martin, has had some quality behind the scenes conditioning (what a load of wanky-babble that sounds like) :D
            Don't quote me on that comment.

            Will see if Roos is talking semantics.

            The Cats side is still a tough nut to crack into with no shortage of height to play with.
            With HMac back in play and 3 half decent rucks brandishing crowbars to get a grip on R1, seems the Tomahawk will have no shortage of friends on the fourth floor.

            Speaking of Geelong, I reckon I hear a Little Creature calling me……

  20. Max says:

    Hey guys,

    Def: McVeigh, Mitchell, D.Swallow, Suckling, A.Johnson, K.Kolodjashnij (McDonald, Fuller)
    Mid: Pendlebury, Selwood, Fyfe, Beams, Shuey, J.Martin, Aish, Polec (Dunstan, O'Rourke)
    Ruc: McIntosh, Sandilands (Longer, Nankervis)
    Fwd: Dangerfield, D.Martin, C.Rioli, Lamb, Fasolo, Kersten (Garlett, Taylor)

    $168,500

    Any little bits of input would lovely!

    • Daniel says:

      Alex Johnson is a key position player, bit of a risk. Could downgrade him into a cheaper player for your bench and bring L.McDonald to the field and use the spare money elsewhere.

  21. lostlarrikin says:

    Seems to be a fair bit of love for D. Swallow at the minute.

    I'm questioning why? Am I missing something here?

    Yeah sure he has dpp this yr, but this is a guy who has had 3 full seasons and is barely nudging 80 ppg.
    Last season saw him play just about every game up back for 79 (incl a 102 and 135 vs melb on both occasions).
    Unless the scoop is for him to move into the middle this yr, I cant see the value.

    Def prem options are plentiful this yr vs the solitary 100+ def in BJ last yr so no need to roll dice on a player like Swallow IMO.

    • throttlefinger says:

      Think for me is the potential. He's a good DPP who comes as a former high draft pick wh's probably going to fly under the radar with GCS. Bigger scores await. Again, potential. Think Ricky Henderson is probably a sounder call yet if you don't have the extra $30K, he's the best in that price range and under, IMO.

      • lostlarrikin says:

        Fair nuff throttle, you gotta make ur own luck in this caper.
        MadMick would be testament to that.

        I reckon if Swallow improves his efficiency then he'll get bigger scores.
        His dpp looks awkward for me, to be valuable in the byes.

        Still waitin for Jack Watts to fire…

        • throttlefinger says:

          No kidding, Lostlarrikin. Be interesting to see what happens pre-season with Watts. Then again, Zorko looked amazing in NAB last season then threw a tease and burn for the season.

          I go back and forth between rolling dice on Swallow or finding a way to work R. Henderson as the D3. Think his upside is as great as Swallow but less of a gamble.

  22. SCMania says:

    Hey guys, because I'm really happy with my team at the moment I don't really want to change it a whole lot, this is my team but it is short about 30k. What changes would you make to make it fit into the salary cap?

    DEF: J. Bartel J. McVeigh S. Mitchell P. Hanley M. Suckling K. Koladjashnij ( M. Fuller C. Giles )

    MID: G. Ablett S. Pendlebury J. Selwood D. Beams J. Martin D. Tyson J. Aish L. McDonald ( L. Dunstan D. Garlett )

    RUC: T. Goldstein M. Lobbe ( M. Apeness D. Currie )

    FWD: P. Dangerfield D. Martin J. Hogan N. Bock G. Rohan B. Lennon ( S. Kersten L. Taylor )

    I'm thinking Watson or Cotchin for Ablett but Ablett out of the team just doesn't look right? Cheers guys!

    • Nuggety says:

      Gday SC I have the same issue and keep coming back to the trucks to save some coin. Bloody risky though… Being bullish about Goldy might be the issue but kruezer or mcevoy for R1 could be a bigger issue…

    • Dave says:

      Nice team! I think you should change your back line it's too top heavy maybe put a another Premium in your forward line but other than that great!

    • Davd says:

      Agree with Dave need another premium in your forward line backline is probaly abit too top heavy.

    • bloke says:

      Just downgrading one of your top 3 MIDs would do it. Don't see a way that you can have those 3 out round 8, as well as Danger, Dusty, Bartel, Beams, Goldy and 5 or 6 rookies. That's 13 or 14 blokes

    • Wombats says:

      Gday SC. You might want to have a think about who your rookies are going to replace in their respective teams best 22 from last year and, whether or not they will get subbed if they do play in the first few weeks. A fwd of def with a 70pts capability but only plays 1 qtr might only score 10pts

  23. Sohil says:

    DEF: Bartel, Hanley, Henderson |McDonald
    Docherty, K.Kolodjashnij, Scharenberg |Fuller
    MID: Ablett, Selwood, Rockliff, Beams |Aish
    Chapman, Martin, Kelly, Billings |Michie
    RUCK: Nic Nat, Sandilands |Apeness
    |Currie
    FWD: Dangerfield, Roughead, Franklin |Taylor
    Boyd, Hogan, Bock |Garlett

    • Sohil says:

      Sorry this might be a little better:

      DEF: Bartel, Hanley, Henderson, Docherty, K.Kolodjashnij, Scharenberg (McDonald, Fuller)
      MID: Ablett, Selwood, Rockliff, Beams, Chapman, Martin, Kelly, BIllings (Aish, Michie)
      RUCK: Nic Nat, Sandliands (Apeness, Currie)
      FWD: Dangerfield, Roughead, Franklin, Boyd, Hogan, Bock (Taylor, Garlett)

      • Pieman says:

        Hi sohil. KPP are very inconsistent with scoring. Having 5 in your forward line is dangerous. Personally aside from ruckman KPP’s are irrelevant for me. Look for players that run through the midfield. They score better & more consistently. Good luck in 2014!

  24. Disco Stu says:

    Alright, first crack at the big one.
    Gone for POD with flexibility across the lines
    And break outs in new positions. Watts/Darling
    Pendles/gazza can be upgraded with cows like
    Beams, Daisy, ect. With a few suggested
    Tweaks this team could be ready to dance.
    Def: Hanley(mid) Hurn, Swallow(mid)
    Watts(Fwd) Suckling, McDonald(mid)
    Laidler, Fuller
    Mid:
    Jobe, Fyfe, Priddus, Beams, Daisy, Martin
    Tyson, Beams.C, Langdon(def) Garlett(fwd)
    Ruck:
    Goldstein, McIntosh, Brown(fwd), Nankervis
    Fwds:
    Danger, Wingard, Dixon, Darling, Clarke,
    Bock, Rohan, Curran(def)

  25. lostlarrikin says:

    Alright haven't had a crack at this for a few weeks.
    Thoughts appreciated.

    Def:
    Bartel, Jimmy (MID)
    Mitchell, Sam (MID)
    Hanley, Pearce (MID)
    Suckling, Matt
    Kolodjashnij, Kade
    McDonald, Luke (MID)
    Laidler, Jeremy
    Fuller, Matthew

    Mid:
    Pendlebury, Scott
    Liberatore, Tom
    Fyfe, Nathan
    Murphy, Marc
    Beams, Dayne
    Martin, Jack
    Morabito, Anthony
    Polec, Jared
    O'Rourke, Jonathan
    Garlett, Dayle (FWD)

    Ruck:
    Lobbe, Matthew
    Grundy, Brodie
    King, Max
    Apeness, Michael (FWD)

    Fwd:
    Dangerfield, Patrick (MID)
    Franklin, Lance
    Dixon, Charlie (RUC)
    Caddy, Josh (MID)
    Gunston, Jack
    Honeychurch, Mitch (MID)
    Markworth, Daniel
    Taylor, Lewis (MID)

    Byes read 10/11/9, so not ideal but figure KK, Martin, Caddy or McD might be slaughtered by then.

    • NutSack says:

      I can see Pendles will be your C but who's going to be your VC? Danger?

    • Wombats says:

      IMO you're a bit light in the mids. Not sure that martin will play a full game in the middle for the first few weeks maybe 3qtrs at most. Morabito will be in rehab from a world record 25th knee reco, Polec will get a go but he aint no o'meara or wines and has 80pts max full game potential atm probably more like 60 after he gets subbed for A.Young mid 3rd qtr. O'rourke no value as a point scorer or cash cow and Garlett wont play round 1. The other 5 are solid but libba has a crap record against his first 3

      • lostlarrikin says:

        Thanks for the feedback 'bats.

        Yeah read your (and N'Sack) assessment on Martin across the site and dont disagree.
        With elevated Rookie prices this yr, correct rookie selection will play a greater part in sorting the Tenors from the Sopranos. Hard to believe that JOM was priced in the low 100's last yr.
        TBH (and it has been repeated many a time here in the last month or so), at this stage of the game, no one really has a friggin clue what rooks will be the cows with the primest cuts. In the end, i'm sure most of us will be looking to field as many bargain basement rookies which are in the R1 lineups.

        On many fronts, I hope that O'Rourke proves you wrong, not that I have any scintillating insight.

        Nice oil on Libba. Looks like he hit a low patch before the bye last yr including games vs Nth and WC. Didnt appear to have a tag tho. The tiges are his bogey for sure, tagged heavily in both games last yr.
        At this stage ill stick with him as his ups far outweigh his downs.

  26. Nuggety says:

    Here’s the team so far, pick it to bits!

    Def

    S Mitchell H Shaw P Hanley

    M Suckling K Kolawoteva L McDonald

    Cutler Fuller

    Mid

    G Ablett S Pendlebury T Cotchin D Beams

    J Aish D Sheed M Crouch

    Honeychurch Hunt

    Ruc

    W Minson M Lobbe

    Apeness Nankervis

    For

    P Dangerfield L Franklin P Chapman

    C Bird T Boyd B Lennon

    Garlett Kennedy-Harris

    A tick under 20k left..

    Cheers

    • NutSack says:

      I like the Minson choice! Im going with him also- sick of year after year my rucks being the main problem so its either Minson or Goldy to start with and Im taking Minson. And youre not going with Sandi- smart move! Sandi's not gonna play more than 10 this year so it leaves you and me one more trade to play with. Everyone assumes Sandi will rise in value but with a toe that contains 90% turf well I reckon evreyone who chooses him will be spewing come round 4 or 5 when he's out.

    • Max says:

      Missing a midfielder…?

      • NutSack says:

        Ouch youre right- with a tick under 20K left the team will have to be totally rethought!

        That said still like Minson who destroys and rips apart games so keep him in.

        • Nuggety says:

          Thanks for the insights guys. I’m thinking the mid rooks will make me the cash I need although season prize probably off the cards… Just need to beat my dodgy mates!

        • Dools says:

          Keep Plugging away mate

          I m in a world of hurt trying to fit Doddog,Lobbe,Grundy and King in Rucks with sacfificing Elite Mids!
          Mids ATAM S.Mitchell, T.Cotchin, S.SelwoodS,D. Beams. Daisy, J.Martin, C.Beams ,X. Ellis, J.Polich and M.Murphy It all works until I get to Dangermouse so ..Retire to fridge and get some thinking aid for me…..

          • lostlarrikin says:

            Hey Dools, I was under the impression that Scooter was more of a DT relevant player.
            Last yr he increased DT avg by 10ppg but SC stayed the same.
            Reckon he has had his SC breakout in 2012 where he put on 20ppg.

            And thoughts on Sammy in the middle? U got some funky swing machine going in the back shed?

            What happened to the man juice reference?
            Did you sell the rights on that one?

          • Dools says:

            G’day Lost,
            Young Seelwood will prove me right! 103 SC pts AVG more then happy spending the coin mate….If I’m wrong I will have as it stands more then 360K to correct error by Rnd 3 so Blind has Ace, King suited (ya it’s a long bow i’m drawing but I feel it’s right mate, given the overpriced under achiver’s from that team he stood up and I think WCE’s are the team to play in SC this year…I have a feeling! over to you Fate!!….. Call/Fold or bet? and ya I think I got a groove in the backline but that’s for later
            Damn that phase will never leave me “Man Juice”LOL Thanks for the reply mate

            • throttlefinger says:

              Dools, I think at this point you have your high price ruck team (NicNat/Lobbe) and your eco-team (Lobbe/Grundy). Question is do you have Longer as reserve with both?

              Lager logic…fall prey to its will, Dools!

              • Dools says:

                Hey TF ,
                Longer is/was my wild card mate…My reasoning is Grundy has the highest foul rate as a ruc 5. someother number…Gez the guy could be my breatho !!!and this damages his score, do you think that 5 month's can improve that? He encroches,inpeads, and slows it all down But on the upside he can win a contest ….He is only 19~! (Good song that) I think Rucs are usually 25/8 YO and Lager logic has prevailed me ol' China …Looking forwards to ytour responce on me Backline LOL (No Zooorko)!!!!

                • Dools says:

                  Sorry TF'
                  Wild card choice B is Sandy = CahChing $$$$ Just has to play 4 games B4 round 8….

                  • throttlefinger says:

                    Sandi is not a bad choice for that reason. If it's cash generation and he looks strong in pre-season, it's probably pretty damn wise…especially if Will/Goldie slide and makes for easy upgrade. Same with Grundy.

                    I like Longer as backup but $279K in reserve is a pretty penny. Seems wiser to use Dixon as the emergency ruck.

                    • Dools says:

                      Agree mate but I'm in the hole trade wise (I Know it) In order to make the 3 Ruc stat. stand ! So into Infinitity and Beyond!!!! (Do they have beer there)

      • Nuggety says:

        Hey Max yeah you’re right Wellingham is the missing mid!

    • Rhino says:

      Who is your 10th midfielder mate?

    • Michael says:

      Shows how little people tolerate difference when if someone has a name that is not Smith, Brown or Jones they make a joke out of it, maybe they are just too lazy or ignorant to look up the correct spelling. KOLODJASHNIJ !

  27. Max says:

    Ahhh, sorry ladies and gents…
    Team I posted before was a draft from 1/2 weeks ago… My apologies!
    This is the current set up

    Def: M.McVeigh, S.Mitchell, P.Hanley, M.Suckling, K.Kolodjashnij, L.McDonald (J.Laidler, M.Fuller)
    Mid: S.Pendlebury, J.Selwood, N.Fyfe, D.Beams, L.Shuey, J.Martin, J.Polec, L.Dunstan (J.O'Rourke, L.Perris)
    Ruc: H.McIntosh, A.Sandilands (B.Longer, T.Nankervis)
    Fwd: P.Dangerfield, D.Martin, C.Rioli, J.Caddy, J.Lamb, S.Kerstan (D.Garlett, L.Taylor)
    Salary – $139,100

    Thoughts on cash in the bank…? And any positives or possible negatives
    Cheers

    • NutSack says:

      LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      And yes i like the cash in the bank. This year Im going to trade harder than a honeymooner on the first night and will leave 200+K in the bank once the team is set

      Any team from now will be different til Thursday before Rnd 1.

      Until then- and until we know what the starting rookies are for Round 1our teams are all just fantasy…. oh yeah theyre just fantasy anyway LOL.

      • Max says:

        Yeah thanks… More asking about structure. Like the Midprice ruck position or whether 1 premium is a better option. Basically asking for other structures that I could fiddle around with… Like apart from 10 or so players the rest of everyone's team is going to change.

        Thanks though have you had a go at any teams? You seem to know your stuff! Cheers

        • NutSack says:

          OK- ohhh and PS no I dont really know that much stuff. Im no Jock, Mad Irishman or Jock. But I know who I dont trust.

          In your team structure expense wise I dont trust Sandi or Rioli and maybe even Fyfe (he scores well but I dont know why he does so maybe CD like his style. H Mac is also a risk when you consider Hale, Roughy and Bailey- but then why would they get HMac if he wasnt going to be their ruckman?

          I have Martin but also dont trust him- his attitude towards the game needs to be 100%.

          Ones you cant and wont lose with are McVeigh, Mitchell, Pendles, Jelwood, Beams, Danger. I would throw into that catergory GAJ, Watson, Minson, Goldy, Cotchin (had a crap year last year and still scored well), Swan (coz he's like a fantasy-greed-pig) and maybe even Bartel.

          Murphy and Thomas also- depends on their mindset in relation to injuries.

          Rookies wise it all comes down to team selections Round 1 so really then only and main focus is – WHO ARE GOING TO BE THE PREMS THAT TAKE UP 75% OF YOUR SALARY CAP? Lock those prems in and rookies will sort themselve out in 2 months :)

          • NutSack says:

            Or Im no BVC either. Sorry for the double JOck- I meant the Baron!

          • lostlarrikin says:

            N'Sack – i reckon ur thinking of McEvoy, who the Hawks recruited, H Mac is a cat (competing with Simpson, Vardy and Blicavs).
            FWIW – Bailey has retired.

            I'm no Jock either, often just referred to as a Jockstrap (i'm sure u get that a lot too :P)

            • NutSack says:

              Yeah I am- I was thinking McEvoy but typing HMac- fail. Thanks for the correction. And was also thinking Longer and not Bailey. Geees I better stay of this Jesus Juice coz my brains not connecting to my fingers. Now I know how the J Juice worked for Michael Jackson.

              Hey Larrikin what do think of Blicavs? I thought he had the potential to become damn good- based on him playing a handful of senior games in 10 years, his fitness and his ability to pick up and learn considering his lack of games as an adult. I just reckon his scope for improvement is huge.

              What do you think?

              • NutSack says:

                And no I dont get Jock strap often- more like Ballbag. And ballbags have nothing to do with Nut Sacks.

              • lostlarrikin says:

                Reckon Blicavs might end up being the 4th wheel at the cats with Simpson, H Mac and Vardy ahead of him.

                Cats had a ruck raffle last yr, but Simpson's end to the season was hard to ignore.
                Simpson and Vardy have had 3-4 seasons at the cattery whereas this was Blicavs 1st.
                If Hmac is fit, then it will make it a crowded sauna to hold ur plums in.

                That said, West and Jpod have left, so there is a spot up fwd for him.

    • Antlee says:

      Nice team, my concerns would be Polec and Lamb, both a bit soft to be relied on for good scores.

      Fyfe was frustrating last year for me, can butcher the ball.

      I'd maybe spend some cash and move Rioli to someone else, will get injured.

      Hope this helps

    • Dools says:

      G’day Max
      Okay from the def movin’ forwards mate
      I think you have let your self go at D5 . Mid 8,9&10 are also long shots. I think you rucs are good as long as R1,R2, and R3,play regular(Sandi I don’t think so, Longer ATPIT is so far behind and H.Mac has not played in neigh on 2 years) but I would not change that ATM ..way to much pre-season to go yet eh?
      Same Same Fwd structure mate. What I do like is coin in da bank to help corect error’s (If any, who Knows mate you could be right and youve picked winners all the way!)

      • Max says:

        Cheers guys, this does help,… I'm no jock, or BVC… Or any of the gang either. Too much pre season left for sure, although this is probably the most important part of the year…. Last year 14 of my players that where in my team at this time of the year I ended up starting with so I like getting a team set up 2/3 weeks before nab cup it's really just a personal choice… What ever works for you do it I guess!

        • Dools says:

          G'day Max
          I think you have nailed this site!
          This place is for opinions only. The community, I hope do not wish to brow beat anyone, and your opinion is just as valid as Jocks mate

          • Max says:

            Cheers dools!

            Your opinions are top notch keep doing what your doing it's excellent! It is really important that everyone gets involved. We all have our opinions and sharing them is brilliant but in the end don't listen to them if you think differently, always go with what you think looks right or just doing things at different times to others… In the end we all have to put up a team round one and whatever helps you get what you think is the best team do it!
            I can't wait to share and hear opinions! It will be a cracker

  28. Antlee says:

    Legends, my team as it stands now, any thoughts would be appreciated…

    DEF – McVeigh, Mitchell, D.Swallow, Suckling, Kolodjashnij, Mcdonald (Fuller, Bews)
    MID – Ablett, J.Selwood, Watson, Jack, Beams, Savage, Martin, Michie (O'Rourke, Taylor)
    RUC – Goldstein, Sandi (Lobb, Nankervis)
    FWD – Danger, Martin, Buddy, Fasolo, Kersten, Markworth (Garlett, Honeychurch)
    Salary $4200

    Thanks

    • jockreynolds says:

      Looking solid mate – you heard the latest on Fasolo? little birdy tells me he is having a hell of a time with unjury

      • Antlee says:

        Cheers Jock, have made a couple of changes since then, on value picks, see what you think…
        DEF – McVeigh, Mitchell, D.Swallow, Suckling, Kolodjashnij, Mcdonald (Fuller, Laidler)
        MID – Ablett, J.Selwood, Watson, Dal Santo, Beams, Murphy, Martin, Michie (Dunstan, Perris)
        RUC – Goldstein, Sandi (Lobb, Nankervis)
        FWD – Danger, Martin, Buddy, Hawkins, Kersten, Taylor (Garlett, Honeychurch)
        Salary – $20,000

        Another question, is having say $100,000 left over more beneficial than using all the budget, because I have always used it all?

        Am still keen on Savage or Thomas instead of Murphy as I reckon he's a bit soft and the captain's curse has hit him, just like it will on R.Griffen this year.

        Cheers

  29. NutSack says:

    Is K Kolojashnij going to get games this year? Everyone has him starting over someone like Laidler ( who was a great player at Carlton- but he was just ignored)

    And is Scharenberg going to see games early?

    • Dools says:

      Ya but when I do not know
      I think their are others who need to fail in order for KK to have a go or / injury

    • Max says:

      KK seems to be in the suns best 25 players, they don't really have much depth.
      Scharenburg is in interesting one, Collingwood probably have the most depth of any team and it's young talented depth, basically who suits Buckley which we will only see rd 1 that's ages away!

      Um If R.Shaw is injured or unable to play next season Z.Jones could be a good pick at around 150k. Yeah he's more of a shut down player but that could allow you to pick A.Johnson at 250k who will do the rebounding instead of Shaw and he could make you a lot of cash… Very dependant on r.shaw mind you

    • throttlefinger says:

      With all the rooks I think it's wait and see. Only ones I think have a strong chance are McDonald, Kolo and Lennon. But you never know. Because of this think keeping a variety of structures that have fail safe placeholders would be the way to go. Because right now we all closed eyes and hoping. NAB and R1 will be the eye openers. Good to prepare, though. Why I've done probably 50 versions of my team.

      • Dools says:

        Not sold on KK ATM but Lennon and Youge MCDonald are LOCKS and I think Fuller (Wookie)
        Sneaky ones to watch with a big chance to play – Lewis Taylor and maybe Aish (overcoming foot injury ATM) and Sneed WCE
        LT to play straight up in Brisbane Lions Aish is definatatley top 22 Sneed is interchange/Vest material
        Does anyone know anything on Kane Mitchellsan PTA I’m struggling to find him…He owes me!

  30. BroomFC says:

    Defenders:
    J. Mcveigh, Hanley, M Johnson (Scharenberg)
    M Suckling, K Kolodjashnij, L Mcdonald (Fuller)

    Mids:
    Griffen, Pendlebury, Mundy, Ziebell (Sheed)
    D Beams, J Anderson, Martin, Aish (Polec)

    Rucks:
    Lobbe, Grundy (Longer, Nankervis)

    Forwards:
    Dangerfield, L Parker, Bellchambers (Kersten)
    J Lamb, Lennon, Garlett (L Taylor)

    Obviously rookies are subjective to change depending on form, particularly the mids, but hope that maybe a few quirky picks will see me dob a hilux come years end!

  31. Dools says:

    This is crazy,
    Sites just opened less then 12 hrs and the community has hit 85…. No Speed or drink restrictions……Wohhhooooo.!!! Go to the fridge…Like at 100,000 Kms (try it)! Yaahhh… or Ahhhh ..if you have already done it?

  32. Dools says:

    Woops went to the fridge too fast and now it's 2014 ….wooh Retro and by the way before I get drawn in to the Vortex the brownlow medellist i…………………………………….

    • lostlarrikin says:

      ……….Scooter, obviously

      • Dools says:

        Hahahaha Love it !~!!! Whoo all this spinning. I’m so over this time travel lark… so KRudd is Cruddd, ugh I need a drinkkkkkk

        • throttlefinger says:

          Been revising team all morning, Dools. Need a drink myself. Driving self crazy. Think I'm setting on NicNat and Lobbe in the ruck. Pendles, Boak, Cotchin, Beams and Treloar as my main Mids. Mitch, Hanley. R. Henderson and M. Weller n the back and Danger, Dusty, Wingard and Titch as main forwards. Why can't NAB start tomorrow?!?

          • Dools says:

            I LIke your start mate…M. Weller …Is that code dude MWell?!!!! LOL

          • NutSack says:

            Why cant NAB start tomorrow? Well when it does it is going to be full on- isnt it 18 games in 18 days? And every game televised live on Foxtel? 18 days of footy in a row- and on TV.. that will be pretty hardcore and some sort of record.

            My question is will the Telstra AFL Live subscription broadcast all these NAB Cup games or just the Regular season? If so it will be 18 days at the desk sipping and watching and finalising things… hmmm now Im just waiting for Feb to get here.

            • throttlefinger says:

              It did last year, NutSack. I got the full AFL Live (only way I can watch as I'm in the states). My memory is crappy…was NAB set up this way last season? Seemed there were a couple each day.

              Regardless, going to do a lot of note taking. Last season wasn't as mindful of specific players. Can't wait either.

  33. Ray says:

    MOD 2 with Q & A

    Def: Bartel, Pearce, Mitchell, Grimes, Hampton, Tape, (KK, Fuller).
    KK a rookie and would prefer a player with some VFL/SANFL etc experience like Fuller. Know any?

    Mid: Dependlebury, Watson, Boak, Beams, Martin, Tyson, Aish, Polec, (McDonald,Garlett)
    Changed Griffin to Boak as the world seemed to work Griff out late and in his first year as Captain I am unsure that he can maintain last years form. Boak should be more settled in a settled side and really improve again? All Rookies subject to NAB form. Many many options.

    Ruck: HMac, Grundy, (Nankervis, Apeness)
    Seems everyones point of contention. I have tried manipulating them and tried buying the best but either way suffered failure :-( Apeness is the only lock for his DPP with Dickson. Again, will seriously be watching NAB form on all up to about 400K. Not paying overs this year (thank you Maric and Jacobs 2013)

    Fwd: Danger, Wingard, Dixon, Hunter, Hogan, Rohan, (Banfield, Taylor)
    I think Dixon could be the next Roughnut and gives me extra in an area that has suffered (same as Rough last year) Hunter is DPP at a nice price but not many like him and he is most at risk. Rohan (unless injured) will play every game (noting what the Swans cut) and I have always (fomr some unknown reason) rated Banfield and just felt he could not find his place at Bris.

    I have avoided, mostly Rookies Fwd and Back as there is, generally, only one or two that standup. Happier to take a risk on older players unless I see something outstanding like Vlas last year (McDonald).

  34. throttlefinger says:

    What's everyone's thoughts on which WCE players will be the most SC viable in the Mids? Many to consider given their sweet start.

    Selwood, I think could make a strong case for M3 but not sure about Priddis and Marsten. And what about Shuey, Wellingham and Hutchings. Any of those worth considering?

    And BestCoast Eagles, hope to hear from you…

    Thanks!

  35. Dools says:

    Have a deeko at Scofielfd TF (I think he is the next big thing fromWA)

  36. @rjc69 says:

    What is the opinion of everyone regarding DPPs?

    Should the be included in the Backs, Mids & Fwds?

    In my opinion in Supercoach they should be included, I have always used DPPs in all positions except ruck which is a bit harder when you have to get a ruck to change in the Mids.

    Thoughts please…

  37. Daniel says:

    Hi guys, great articles recently, has made me change my team a few times
    Def-J.Bartel, P.Hanley, D.Swallow, S.Docherty, K.Kolodjashnij, L.McDonald (T.Langdon, M.Fuller)
    Mid-S.Pendlebury, J.Selwood, T.Rockliff, D.Beams, L.Shuey, D.Thomas, J.Martin, M.Crouch (J.O'Rourke, L.Dunstan)
    Ruck-N.Naitanui, M.Lobbe (F.Thurlow, T.Nankervis)
    For-P.Dangerfield, D.Martin, C.Rioli, J.Caddy, J.Billings, D.Gartlett (L.Taylor, M.Honeychurch)
    $7000 left in the bank
    Not sure about Matt Crouch at the moment and S.Docherty. Thoughts would be great thanks.

  38. Ben says:

    Thoughts on selecting one of Tom Hickey or Billy Longer in the ruck?
    Both reasonably cheap and should be getting game tim as the saints best 2 ruckman.

  39. BeaglieBoy says:

    Ok…..These are the 15 players I want in my team…LOCKS….everyone else will be slotted in around them depending on pre-season form….whether they are picked for rd1….and team structure….These other players are what we ckeck preseason for…and hopefully fill in the gaps.

    MY LOCKS:

    Def: McVeigh, Bartel, Hanley Suckling
    Mid: Ablett, Pendlebury, Mitchell, Murphy, Beams, Martin,J
    Ruck: Sandilands, McIntosh
    Fwds: Dangerfield, Martin, Franklin

  40. The ABMasiter says:

    Team Name: Hot 'n' Spicy Currie

    Shaw, Heath $522,600
    Henderson, Ricky $460,000
    Grimes, Jack (MID) $436,500
    Kolodjashnij, Kade $197,300
    Docherty, Sam $285,000
    McDonald, Luke (MID) $182,300
    Fuller, Matthew $117,300
    Suckling, Matt $312,200

    Pendlebury, Scott $683,100
    Liberatore, Tom $576,200
    Selwood, Scott $559,800
    Ziebell, Jack $513,600
    Beams, Dayne $497,200
    Treloar, Adam $469,500
    Martin, Jack $222,300
    Aish, James $187,300
    Taylor, Lewis (FWD) $117,300
    Dunstan, Luke $132,300

    Grundy, Brodie $363,300
    McIntosh, Hamish $332,900
    Nankervis, Toby $117,300
    Currie, Daniel $123,900

    Dangerfield, Patrick (MID) $609,000
    Parker, Luke (MID) $468,800
    Riewoldt, Nick $567,100
    Hunter, Lachlan $284,700
    Hogan, Jesse $217,300
    Garlett, Dayle (MID) $117,300
    Kennedy-Harris, Jay $117,300
    Rohan, Gary $176,200

    And I was thinking about Shane Savage as an inclusion?

  41. Paul says:

    Thank you Fantasy Footy Legends,
    Posted my first draft team up yesterday & being a relatively new addition to this wonderful community (in fact quite new to the intricasies of AFL, being a league convert), I have taken your worldly wisdom on board & over countless froths last night followed by an aching scone accompanied with eyes that you could find your way to Wagga Wagga on this morning, I have come up with the following 2nd draft. (mmmm draught, maybe time for a recovery me thinks). Here we go…..

    Def: J Bartel, P Hanley, D Swallow, M Suckling, K Kardashian, L McDonald, J Laidler, M Fuller

    Mid: S Pendlebury, N Fyfe, J McVeigh, D Beams, J Caddy, J Martin, J Aish, X Ellis, A Morabito

    Ruc: M Lobbe, H McIntosh, M Apeness, T Nankervis

    Fwd: P Dangerfield, D Martin, C Dixon, T Mitchell, J Hogan, J Billings, S Kersten, D Garlett

    $154,000 left in the kitty. Thanks again & Cheers!

    • Paul says:

      Unfortunately I've also been left with 13 outs for round 8, so still much work to do. Would love any more suggestions or feedback that you may have. I hope to be able to help a keen up & comer one days myself. Thanks again. Oh & Cheers!!!

      • Dools says:

        G'day Paul,
        Excellent effort mate – Beer "Is there nothing it can't do?" Great war chest$$
        Now to experiment mate Save that team….Put McV in Defence but keep Bartel Slot Dangermouse to midgap now see if you can score another for his spot…..When youve done that look back at origanal team Ponder again over a cold one…It's infuriating but great fun! especially whilst drinking doing ligit research Win Win

    • JJFYZZ says:

      Hi Paul,

      Welcome to AFL. The greatest game on earth. As Izzy and Hunt know learning AFL can take a while. You've joined a great community with most really willing to help and get in to the spirit of the game.

      My advice would be to move McVeigh from the mids to the backs. The mids typically score more heavily so any mids that you can move to the backs (or fwds) adds another mid.

      Good luck

      JJFYZZ

      • Paul says:

        Thankyou JJFYZZ, J McVeigh is there as a DPP option to swap between the mid & def, in this case with Bartel, Hanley, Swallow or McDonald, so I think I may need one of them in the midfield to give that flexibility. Is there much value in the DPP players or do you think going with a specialist midfield is a better way to go?

    • Wombats says:

      Absolute genius putting Kimmy Kardashian on the back flank. When she sticks that massive hail damaged arse of hers out, no forward will get near the ball!

  42. meanieoh says:

    v2.0

    DEF: Bartel, Hurn, Watts, Suckling, K.Kolodjashnij, L.McDonald (Langdon, Fuller)
    MID: Pendlebury, M.Murphy, D.Beams, Gaff, D.Thomas, Savage, J.Martin, Michie (L.Taylor, Honeychurch)
    RUC: Naitanui, Dixon (Apeness, Nankervis)
    FWD: Dangerfield, D.Martin, Chapman, Darling, Mayes, Caddy (Close, Garlett)

    $200 left

    The selection of Darling & Hurn are purely based on Simpsons hope of playing Darling as a mid and Hurn moving to the wing – so could very well change as pre-season progresses.

    The article that details Simpsons intentions is here: http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/kim-hagdorn-west

    • JJFYZZ says:

      I was tossing up between Chappy and Franklin in the forward line. Went with Franklin but got burnt by both last year.!! Be interesting to see if Buddy can repay the the Sydney $$$$

      • Dools says:

        I Think Buddy will have a big roll in the mids this year.
        I also think Chappy has a point to prove and linked up with Bomber Thompson I think he will be a Giant this season (Depending on injury reports and position actually played in?)

        • JJFYZZ says:

          Hi Dools,

          I agree I think Chappy will have a point o prove and when fit and able will score very well. The question will be how fit and able will he be.

          I'm still on Chappy (esp at that price) and may add him to the team, although I can't see him being in the final 22.

          JJ

    • Nuggety says:

      Like Sam Mayes selection. The guys a gun , but if he does breakout will cop a tag. Worth a shot though…

  43. scooter says:

    Def Mitchell Bartel Hanley kk Cutler fuller ( Langdon tippet). Mids gaz pendles swan jelwood Watson j Martin polec McDonald ( honeychurch dunstan ). Rucks minson Grundy ( nankervis king ). Fwd danger Martin rough Hogan kersten Taylor garlett jkh). Very much guns and rookies approach

  44. JJFYZZ says:

    Hi Everyone,

    Shaping up to be a cracker of a season.

    Here's my team Cracker's 1st XVIII Mk2. Love to hear any thoughts. Let's be fair though, it'll change 100 times between now and Rnd 1 esp during the preseason cup.

    Good luck everyone.

    Backs: Bartel, McVeigh, Hanley, Suckling, Delaney, L McDonald (Siggins, J Kolodjashnij)
    Mids: Pendles, Watson, Barlow, D Beams, Grigg, J Martin, D Tyson, C Beams (M Crouch, Honeychurch)
    Rucks: Nic Nat, Sandi (Longer, Apeness)
    Forwards: Danger, Roughy, Franklin, Hogan, Fasolo, Billings (D Garlett, B Brown)

    JJFYZZ

  45. Hugh G says:

    Tom Mitchell or Lukey Parker?

  46. BeaglieBoy says:

    Does the community think that its possible to fit all of BARTEL, MCVEIGH, HODGE, HANLEY AND MITCHELL into the one side…one or two in the mids?

    • Hugh G says:

      I actually really like that idea, then just gradually over time move them all to def during trades.. could be genius!!

  47. Hugh G says:

    Hey Jock, love the website, hanging for the next podcast..

    Ok, my team V2..

    Still have planty of coin in the bank ($644,600) for changes that are inevitable after pre season starts and before round 1 bounce.. I have tried to find the best value of set and forget players and rookies. Mid field is very mid priced on paper, but all have huge potential for massive scores.

    Defs..
    McVeigh, Mitchell, Swallow
    Docherty, McDonald, Laidler
    (Gardiner, Fuller)

    Mids..
    Pendlebury, Murphy, Beams, Shuey
    Thomas, Martin, Michie, O’Rourke
    (Honeychurch, Perris)

    Rucks..
    Lobbe, Sandilands
    (Nankervis, Apeness)

    Fwds..
    Dangerfield, Martin, Parker
    Darling, Lamb, Kersten
    (Taylor, Gartlett)

    All 4 rucks are still very much in the air. Still want to find a spot for Charlie Dixon. Am secretly hoping Daisy isnt fit for rnd 1 so he can make room for either Cotchin, Ziebell, Cunnington or Bastinac. Darling comes into my side on the word that he will play a major midfield roll this yr. M3 & M4 spots will ultimately be between Buddy, Parker, Mitchell, Dixon & Darling.

  48. @taylorwoof says:

    Latest crack at my team.

    DEF: J.McVeigh, S.Mitchell, P.Hanley, M.Suckling, E.Wood, K.Kolodjashnij (J.Laidler & M.Fuller)

    MID: G.Ablett, R.Griffen, M.Barlow, D.Beams, D.Thomas, J.Martin, D.Tyson, C.Beams (X.Ellis & M.Hallahan)

    RUCK: H.McIntosh, A.Sandilands (D.Currie & T.Derickx)

    FWD: P.Dangerfield, D.Martin, L.Franklin, S.Motlop, S.Higgins, G.Rohan (T.Banfield & D.Gartlett)

    Remaining Salary: $15,400

    Bye Breakdown 10/10/10

    Rookie: 47%, Mid 27%, Prem 27%

    Big punts on the returning ruckmen in HMac & Sandi. Found the tail end of the FWD line quite difficult. Tossed up between a few: Higgins, M.Clark, Hogan, Fasolo etc….i think they're all 'drumsticks/cornettos' at this stage (different names, but same thing). They will no doubt break up once NAB games are played. Slotted Gary Rohan in the F7, even though he's not a prolific scorer…i think he should get plenty of games early and increase in value. Fwd rookies, i have no idea…..just filling in spaces at the moment.

  49. Will says:

    What do we think about B.Ellis ?

    Would have averaged quite a bit more if you take into account his sub affected scores early in his innings!
    Can rack up the disposals, and zero chance of a tag when you have the likes of Cotchin and Deledio.

    Thoughts and feedback?

    • Ernest says:

      Being a Tigers supporter I highly regard Ellis and think he is an absolute star, however seeing as how he is now a pure mid I can't see him being worthy of selection, if he was Mid/Def he would of been one of my first few picks. He is ready to explode.
      Could be a nice choice in a draft leagues.

  50. meanieoh says:

    If anyone's interested, here's an opinion piece in the Herald Sun that Paul Roos wrote last season about the Melbourne Demons.

    Perhaps an insight as to what to expect? Or merely the view of someone who was outside looking in at the time?
    http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/why-melbour

  51. meanieohq says:

    Sam Jacobs is priced at $460K, he's my biggest regret from having in my side last year.

    But there's an interesting article here: http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/summer-watc

    Might actually be someone to watch over preseason for that price.

    • @taylorwoof says:

      I felt your pain during last season…..he burnt me hard. I missed the boat on trading him out due to untimely injuries to other players. Was only able to upgrade him to Will Minson for the Grand Final.

      I'd prefer to take a risk on HMac and/or Sandi if they're sound come Round 1.

  52. jeff says:

    Saw alot of U18s last year and think the 3 rookie mids most likely to see early action and also score well are sheed , j Martin and dunstan so will be starting with these to earn cash…anybody see my sense here or prefer others?

    • NutSack says:

      J Martin is more a selection for points than $- he's almost twice as much as other rookies so he needs to average double the other rookies scores. Highly unlikely. Yes he may be better than JOM but he is not as relevant SC wise so I'm not going with him because youre down 100K from Round 1.

      Last year JOM was 115K and increased to 415k after 8 rounds averaging 92.

      With Martin almost double that price I would assume he would need to average double that score to increase in 300K in the same 8 rounds- I would guess he would need to average over 160 points to have same increase and it is extremely unlikely he will average anymore than JOM did.

      So I would say no Martin is not a ca$h cow as he would need to average more than Pendles to increase in value significantly and one vest will destroy his average for a month.

      So he is a no for me.

      • Hugh G says:

        Im also questioning the inclusion of Jack Martin.. Is there a better choice of perhaps saving the $100k, taking a cheaper Rookie, and upgrade either a mid price def, mid or fwd.. Got a feeling the selection of Martin could depend on if Daisy is fully fit round 1.

  53. Ernie says:

    DEF: J. McVeigh, S. Mitchell, M. Hibberd, M. Suckling, K. Kolodjashnij, L. McDonald (M. Fuller, T. Cutler)
    MID: S. Pendlebury, J. Selwood, J. Watson, T. Cotchin, D. Beams, D. Thomas, J. Martin, D. Sheed (L. Dunstan, D. Garlett)
    RUC: M. Lobbe, B. Grundy (M. Apeness, R. Lobb)
    FWD: P. Dangerfield, L. Franklin, R. Gray, J. Hogan, G. Rohan, S. Kersten (D. Markworth, L. Taylor)
    CASH LEFT: $68,300

    Rookies subject to change, unsure as to how the Ruck and Fwds will end up as they are easily my weaker lines, Def and Mids should remain the same baring injury etc.

    • Dools says:

      Love the mids and fwds Ernie with a solid backline until D5 but excellent coverage IMO at this point
      You Ruc Dept not sold on but nice all round team mate

  54. James says:

    Marc Murphy or Luke Shuey?

  55. Wombats says:

    This is the best I can do after a dozen attempts with the Higginator: Projected Rd Score = 1778
    The team I liked most only scores 1741 on the 'Higginator'

    D: Bartel, Mitchell, Swallow, Suckling, Watson, McDonald (Georgiou, Fuller)
    C: Ablett, J.Steven, K.Jack, Murphy, D.Beams, D.Thomas, Martin, J.Kelly, (j.hunt, d.garlett)
    R:Warnock, Grundy (Brown, Holmes)
    F:N.Riewaldt, Wingard, M.Robinson, Vardy, Boyd, Hogan (spina, luxford)

    • Ernest says:

      Robinson, Vardy, Boyd, Kelly and even Warnock are questionable choices at best, bar Robinson and maybe Vardy they probably won't play many games if any at all in 2014.

    • Dools says:

      Hey Wombats, Ignore the Hig Machine dude – YOU like what you have…
      It’s like pirate rules -” More like a guide line Ahhhgghh”

  56. Farnzy says:

    DEF: J. McVeigh, S. Mitchell, P. Hanley, M. Suckling, K. Kolodjashnij, L. McDonald (J. Laidler, M. Fuller)
    MID: S. Pendlebury, J. Watson, M. Murphy, D. Beams, D. Thomas, J. Martin, C. Beams, V. Michie (J. Polec, D. Garlett)
    RUC: M. Lobbe, H. McIntosh (A. Sandilands, D. Currie)
    FWD: P. Dangerfield, D. Martin, L. Franklin, M. Clark, J. Lamb, A. Fasolo (G. Rohan, S. Kersten)

    • @taylorwoof says:

      Really nice team Farnzy!

      I like the defense (have a similar line up atm).
      Midfield looks really good #rocksolid
      Rucks, personally i couldn't pick Lobbe, but he's a nice POD.
      Fwd line, F1-3 super. F4-6….this is going to be the toughest for everyone. At present those 3 look valid selections, but no doubt they'll change as the season opener draws closer.

      Really good side mate. Can you tell me about S.Kersten….seen him in a few sides, but don't know a lot about him. Fwd rookies look a bit thin at present.

      • Farnzy says:

        Thanks for the nice comments about my team. ATM I'd be happy to start the season unchanged but I have no doubt it will change a few times before round 1 like everyone else! Regarding Kersten, apparently he had a solid year in the 2's last year and with JPod, Chappy, Enright and Hunt being moved on they'll have to replace them with someone. Like all rookies wait for NAB games and see if he gets a run, if so at his price I reckon his worth a punt.

  57. Dools says:

    Farnsey,
    As per Ernie reply Backline and ruc dept
    Canot fault the mids buddy..You do know that Fasolo is extreamly doubtful for R 1 mate? Love to see J Lamb as F 7 Nice

    • Farnzy says:

      Cheers mate, yeah if Fasolo isn't ready for round 1 he will be downgraded to Bock or Lennon pending their selection.

  58. Edward says:

    Hey guys just need some help

    Which two should I pick from kade kolodjashnij Luke McDonald and matt scharenberg and is matt fuller worth a look at?

    • SCMania says:

      McDonald and KK are locks and Fuller should be your bench cover, MS won't play a whole lot with his foot injury.

    • Dools says:

      Fuller & Young McDonald with KK as Cover – Scharenberg is for later in the season when all around him fall again…

  59. SCMania says:

    Who would be the first you would get rid of out of:

    G. Rohan, N. Bock, B. Lennon, J. Hogan, S. Kersten and L. Taylor.

    Thanks guys!

    • Edward says:

      I'd say B. Lennon just because i'm not too sure about his job security

    • throttlefinger says:

      Kersten. Low chance of getting in the early chance of the year because he plays on Cats. Hogan and Lennon will be in early. Bock and Rohan I'm sure it depends on pre-season form coming back from injury. But if they don't crap the bed I'm sure they'll get time in an early round as well.

  60. Dools says:

    Holy Batcrap? Have theyall let ya down already mate??????
    At This Point In Time mate prob. Kersten

    • lostlarrikin says:

      Hey Juiceman,
      I'll ask the question…
      U got any oil on Lennon and Taylor?

      • Max says:

        G'day Lostlarrikin,

        Taylor is deffinately ready to play in the big league and will deffinately see some game time this year a lot like Zorko 2 years back. High efficiency and a goalkicker…

        Lennon I haven't got much, he may need a few injuries to get a place

        Hope this helps

        • lostlarrikin says:

          Thnx Max (or is that TF?)
          Yeah Taylor looks ready for a mid role TBH, based on his exploits last yr (hasnt set the world on fire with his fwd work)
          If thats the case then will be vying with Aish for a mid gig.
          Ahh heck, the LIons are the biggest mixed bag ever, all those departures could turn into a lot of cows.

          • throttlefinger says:

            May try to put both in the reserves if possible. Word is Lennon is a dead-on shooter, which the Tiges need. May not get R1 but will get a chance sooner rather than later.

    • Max says:

      Not keen Kersten dools? Maybe not much of a Supercoach scorer but a rookie that should play more often than not at 120k would surely be a worthy pick for F6 or F7… Maybe tell us why your not keen keep us on our toes and thinking!

  61. 2013 Premiers says:

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    1. McVeigh, J
    $572,500
    MID
    SYD X
    2. Mitchell, S
    $562,000
    MID
    HAW X
    3. Suckling, M
    $312,200
    HAW X
    4. Docherty, S
    $285,000
    CAR X
    5. Kolodjashnij, K
    $197,300
    GCS X
    6. Edwards, S
    $185,700
    ESS X
    23. McDonald, L
    $182,300
    MID
    NTH X
    24. Laidler, J
    $161,800
    SYD X
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    7. Ablett, G
    $695,000
    GCS X
    8. Selwood, J
    $638,700
    GEE X
    9. Dangerfield, P
    $609,000
    FWD
    ADE X
    10. Bartel, J
    $572,500
    DEF
    GEE X
    11. Cotchin, T
    $572,000
    RIC X
    12. Murphy, M
    $498,300
    CAR X
    13. Martin, J
    $222,300
    GCS X
    14. Beams, C
    $183,400
    BRL X
    25. Michie, V
    $172,600
    MEL X
    26. Dunstan, L
    $132,300
    STK X
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    k
    s
    15. Naitanui, N
    $518,800
    WCE X
    16. Dixon, C
    $487,900
    FWD
    GCS X
    27. Currie, D
    $123,900
    NTH X
    28. Nankervis, T
    $117,300
    SYD X
    f
    o
    r
    w
    a
    r
    d
    s
    17. Roughead, J
    $531,300
    HAW X
    18. Franklin, L
    $487,700
    SYD X
    19. Hogan, J
    $217,300
    MEL X
    20. Billings, J
    $207,300
    MID
    STK X
    21. Taylor, L
    $117,300
    MID
    BRL X
    22. Merrett, Z
    $117,300
    ESS X
    29. Garlett, D
    $117,300
    MID
    HAW X
    30. Honeychurch, M
    $117,300
    MID
    WBD X

  62. Max says:

    Absolutely loving the love for Lamb!!! He averaged 58% game time with an average of 45 playing predominately inside forward 50. Been in GWS' best 22 he has elite ball use and he's a hard nut aswell. He can be used in the midfield like in the NEAFL where he averaged 27 disposals and 7 tackles per game! If he gets a run in the midfield at GWS potential breakout looming. Watch nab cup.

    If anyone wants something like this for other players… Ask I'm willing to help.

  63. Dools says:

    Hi Lost,

    Ya I got oil !
    Lennon is on.
    Taylor is goooooo
    No Love for me mate?
    Let my bad moniker go!
    Where do I source this? I ask you Cry? Never mind mate….Don't Ask me why.
    Off to the fridge he hurried and scurried …..Tripped back in time all in a hurry…only to find what he had left all laong….Another Lostlarrikin confused by this song..
    (Damn you lost I 'm trapped in rymying couplets.)……….So fare tee well…
    Gallant young Sir…I'm off to the fridge ..
    To end this dirge….. (Now I really dislike ya Lost… Helpppppppppppppp)

    • lostlarrikin says:

      U singeth v.badly
      Atomic badly!

      Fridge needeth be closer to 'puter (or bed perhaps).

      As my physician Dr. Faithless prescribed: We become one……

      Looks unlikely that moniker will fade, in fact podcast immortality looks more likely :D

      • Dools says:

        ‘Damn It Jim ‘ “He is going to Die”
        (ou figere out the perathisisisiss stuff)
        If Lostlarikin is willing to try
        To save his life I bet he will see
        Do not take the Mick of Irish or me.

  64. lostlarrikin says:

    We can get lost in the Sparkle and Fade Dools.
    I dont take meeself much serious.
    I'm as Irish as they come….#rangamanwithoutbrackets

    • Dools says:

      Hi Max
      G. Rohan, N. Bock, B. Lennon, J. Hogan, S. Kersten and L. Taylor. from SCMania was which one I would cut/ drop
      Kersten is a great talent but I do not see him as a regular top 22 pick for the Cats.

    • Dools says:

      Hi Lost –
      I'm just recovering from rhymes mate
      – I do not take meself to serious either . I think It's an Irish trait.

  65. Dave says:

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  66. Callum says:

    What are your thoughts on armitage? I feel like he may be the one to step up in place of dal santo, also jack steven could do the same even though last year he was possibly st kildas best midfielder

    • @taylorwoof says:

      Good question Callum!

      I actually didn't think of this…..Dal use to attract a tag most weeks too. Who cops the tag now? Bit hard to target Lenny Hayes as he'll always get his own ball. Montagna perhaps the logical one to go too…..or do teams tag a Steven or Armitage?

      • Callum says:

        Yeah i am thinking along the same lines to. Though most likely for the start of the season i think teams will target steven or montagna

  67. Cameron says:

    Few POD's here, putting focus into upgrades and moving players around once the cash has been milked from the rookies.
    Tear it apart!

    DEF: Bartel, Birchall, Dunn, Suckling, Kolodjashnij, Scharenberg (Fuller/Langdon)
    MID: Jelwood, Barlow, Steven, Cotchin, S Mitchell, J Martin, Tyson, O'Rourke (McDonald/Honeychurch)
    RUCK: Grundy, McIntosh (Thurlow/Nankervis)
    FWD: Danger, Dusty, Walters, Bellchambers, Kersten, Kennedy-Harris (Garlett/Taylor)

    • @taylorwoof says:

      I like the Barlow selection Cam! I'm confident he can improve on his 2013 season average (110.0)

      2010: 13 games @ 116.0
      2011: 9 games @ 83.6
      2012: 22 games @ 95.0
      2013: 21 games @ 110.0

      He continues to improve his average each year since that horror injury in 2010.

      Scored 92+ in 19/21 games last year.

      Rounds 7 to 21 he averaged 118.46 (104 lowest in this period, 151 highest)

    • derek says:

      Dunn is an interesting pick. I would look at getting Mitchell into the backline and use $440k in the mids to get someone like T Adams, Conca, Zorko. Select Sam in the backline and gives you more options for the same price in the mids

  68. SCMania says:

    A couple of questions here:

    Dom Sheed or James Aish?

    Which 2 out of Lennon, Taylor and Kersten?

    Maric, McEvoy NicNat, Mumford or Lobbe?

    How do you think Zorko will go and a projected AVE?

    Cotchin or Watson?

    Thanks guys!

    • Max says:

      Hey SCMania,
      I reckon Sheed would be similar to Ollie wines so a better scorer but Aish is more likely to get game time which is why I'm picking Aish for now.
      I'd go Taylor and Kersten for the same above reason…
      I'm going for proven performers in ruck and the best of them would be. Nic Nat or mummy…
      Zorko will be 95-105 but, he could throw in a couple of 60's but he could also put a 150 on the board

      • SCMania says:

        Thanks mate what team below do you think is best?

      • derek says:

        I won't be having either Cox or NitNat if BOTH are playing. It is proven that neither score that well if both play. If one of them is to get injured, i'll be the first to be getting the other into my team

  69. SCMania says:

    Which team would you go with at the moment?

    Team 1:

    DEF: S. Mitchell J. Bartel J. McVeigh P. Hanley M. Suckling K. Koladjashnij ( M. Fuller C. Giles )

    MID: G. Ablett J. Selwood S. Pendlebury D. Beams J. Martin D. Tyson L. McDonald L. Dunstan ( D. Garlett J. O' Rourke )

    RUC: T. Goldstein M. Lobbe ( M. Apeness D. Currie )

    FWD: P. Dangerfield D. Martin J. Hogan N. Bock G. Rohan B. Lennon ( S. Kersten L. Taylor )

    33k left

    Or

    Team 2:

    DEF: S. Mitchell J. Bartel J. McVeigh M. Suckling K. Koladjashnij L. McDonald ( M. Fuller C. Giles )

    MID: S. Pendlebury J. Selwood T. Cotchin M. Murphy D. Beams J. Martin D. Tyson D. Sheed ( D. Garlett L. Dunstan )

    RUC: I. Maric B. Grundy ( M. Apeness D. Currie )

    FWD: P. Dangerfield D. Martin D. Zorko J. Hogan N. Bock G. Rohan ( S. Kersten L. Taylor )

    37k left

    Thoughts and opinions on both teams would be very much appreciated!

    • Dools says:

      Hi Mate both teams are good. It depends on how you feel about Gary being in or outa the team….
      I like very much the inclusion of Zorko ( I’m nearing forgivness for last years efforts) in team 2

      • SCMania says:

        Thanks Dools, Ablett is always going to be safe but with his price there could be better options, there still is a big chance he will be there by the seasons start. What changes do you suggest for both teams?

        • Dools says:

          In the Defence – I’m looking at Scoffield WCE (Think he could be Hanley for 2014 and 300K) HANLEY all teams have done thre homework on the lad – I had him from the start last campaigne I sent e-mails to Jock on him last year early Jan 13. Singing his praises It took a while but finally convinced Jock to have a look at the lad after the Party At the Bungelow!!
          Cotchin is solid and underpriced but for a little more Son of Tim is ecellent.
          Big Ivan I like but Grundy I feel is more R3 maybe even look a t McIntosh as a partner (Cats are very very excited for himthis season)
          Dusty is an enigma to me capable of brilliance but not doing it. I would be looking a t Buddy for that slot or even Wingard. I’m also keen on X Ellis if fit definatley in WCE top 22. Well thats my 2 cents mate hope to hear from ya soon

    • Farnzy says:

      Hi SCMania, Teams 1 and 2 both look good but if I was to choose between them I'd pick Team 2. Overall it's a more balanced side! DEF: 3 top notch premo's MIDS: 5 of the best RUC: Maric should return to his 2012 form and Grundy has the potential to get to premium status at some point during the year FWD: providing Zorko gets back to playing some consistent footy, much like the back line you will be starting with 3 very solid premo's! Most rookies are just place holders at this stage but in saying that you've got it pretty spot on at the moment. Well done and good luck.

      • SCMania says:

        Cheers Farnzy, with the rookies I doing really care about their scoring ability, just if they'll get games.

    • throttlefinger says:

      Agree with Dools. Like mid and fwd structure of #2 better. Def and rucs are stronger in #1. Toss up.

    • @taylorwoof says:

      I prefer the 2nd squad.

      5-0-3 Starting Midfield is better the better option than 4-0-4 (Inc Beams as a Premium).

      Also the tail isn't as long on the forward line in squad two.

      I'd roll the dice on HMac or Sandi > Maric. Both can score as good as Maric, but come with a cheaper price tag. Though….yes more risk included. How will Maric go with the addition of Hampson? Or does Hampson play more fwd (even though i don't think he's much of a fwd).

  70. Dishlickers says:

    1. Walker, A. 2. Bartel, J 3. Hanley, P
    4. Duffield, P 5. Suckling, M 6. McDonald, L
    ( 23. Laidler, J 24. Fuller, M )

    7. Liberatore, T 8. Kennedy, J 9. Beams, D 10. Treloar, A
    11. Gaff, A 12. Martin, J 13. Tyson, D 14. Beams, C
    ( 25. Michie, V 26. Taylor, L)

    15. Grundy, B 16. McIntosh, H
    ( 27. Longer, B 28. Mitchell, P )

    17. Dangerfield, P 18. Wingard, C 19. Zorko, D
    20. Daniher, J 21. Clark, M 22. Fasolo, A
    ( 29. Bock, N 30. Garlett, D )

  71. yurkins says:

    It's my first post for a while but loving the info coming through.

    My question… I really don't see the point in investing a million bucks in the ruck and having 300k sitting on the bench? ^^^^^^ Dishlicker is like a few people to promote this approach in 2014. Am i missing something Community/ Jock? Will Grundy and Longer both make good enough cash to invest in them as cows and miss out on having, lets say, McEvoy and Jacobs/Lobbe/Mummy churning out 90+ for the first 8 weeks before you cull the cows? I don't get it. Whilst it offers the opportunity to move into performing rucks a third of the way into the season it will cost in excess of 300 + points I reckon, taking you off the leaders' pace for the $50k!

    Am I missing something?

  72. SCMania says:

    Ivan Maric or Matthew Lobbe?

    • Dools says:

      Hmmm Lobbe is the buzz word ATM. I have him pencilled in as R2 Not as R1 and Maric is Not an R2 so difficult to answer…
      I think Maric is a solid choice, as is Lobbe….So for me I’d go with value in playing team so Maric…. Just

    • throttlefinger says:

      Really depends how much Hampson helps out Maric. Think if he can, it will give Maric more scoring opportunities and bigger SC scores. Hope it also cuts down on his injuries. If picking now, would go with Lobbe. Value plus upside.

      • Dools says:

        I do’n’t know mate, with assistance Maric offers far more then just a RUC- Hampson is just an aide to enable freedom of movement for Ivan a IMO –
        Lobbe is a loc k as R 2/3 if you have the Brass ????

        • throttlefinger says:

          Agree. Think we're saying the same thing…except you're saying it better.

          Like you Dools, the ruc is giving me fits. Every other position is coming together nicely. Can't get decide for my R1. And if McE, NicNat and Mummy, the way I have everything else structured won't allow Lobbe. Only Grundy. Maybe Sandi if I want to go for the upgrade. Ugggggh.

          • Dools says:

            Hey mate, a thought from outside the square…. Nicolls GCS or heaven forefend……..DA Da DAH…(Que brassy trumpets) McIntosh!

            • throttlefinger says:

              Man, I had Nicholls last year and LOVE him. Think he doesn't have enough experience to warrant that price tag. Want to see how well he does with Dixon and Smith back in the lineup. He was lone ruck when he put up those monster scores…even though he looked like a beast in that rain game last season.

              McIntosh is a big waiter. Need to see how he handles himself in preseason and first two rounds. Low on him. Loooooooooooow.

          • Dools says:

            I hear ya on McIntosh but Low on experiance what does this kid have to do mate? He was asesome Lets try that again AWESOME..But I agree or do I ? I have a Tingle and it’s somewhere I can rub so…Off to to the research thing..(Just insert Fridge) I will get back to ya…

  73. Stan says:

    1. Vlastuin, N
    $405,200
    MID
    RIC X
    2. Richards, T
    $374,100
    SYD X
    3. Whitecross, B
    $332,300
    HAW X
    4. Brown, L
    $326,500
    ADE X
    5. Thurlow, J
    $285,900
    GEE X
    6. Docherty, S
    $285,000
    CAR X
    23. Bootsma, J
    $217,000
    CAR X
    24. Fuller, M
    $117,300
    WBD X
    m
    i
    d
    f
    i
    e
    l
    d
    7. Pendlebury, S
    $683,100
    COL X
    8. Dangerfield, P
    $609,000
    FWD
    ADE X
    9. Rockliff, T
    $591,500
    BRL X
    10. Heppell, D
    $491,400
    ESS X
    11. Thomas, D
    $341,800
    CAR X
    12. Caddy, J
    $325,300
    FWD
    GEE X
    13. Martin, J
    $222,300
    GCS X
    14. Aish, J
    $187,300
    BRL X
    25. Morabito, A
    $123,900
    FRE X
    26. O'Rourke, J
    $123,900
    GWS X
    r
    u
    c
    k
    s
    15. Minson, W
    $616,600
    WBD X
    16. Grundy, B
    $363,300
    COL X
    27. Daw, M
    $279,600
    FWD
    NTH X
    28. Apeness, M
    $137,300
    FWD
    FRE X
    f
    o
    r
    w
    a
    r
    d
    s
    17. Wingard, C
    $531,800
    MID
    PTA X
    18. Franklin, L
    $487,700
    SYD X
    19. Podsiadly, J
    $411,600
    ADE X
    20. Rowe, S
    $324,200
    RUC
    CAR X
    21. Daniher, J
    $272,900
    ESS X
    22. Hogan, J
    $217,300
    MEL X
    29. Lennon, B
    $162,300
    RIC X
    30. Garlett, D
    $117,300
    MID
    HAW

    • ShinbonerSpirit says:

      Whitecross out for much of the season. Podsiadly is past his use-by date. No to HepD in midfield. Thurlow will continue to struggle for game time at Geelong.

  74. Dools says:

    Big news community – Moribito (Freo) has just gone thru match simulation without any issues. This will free up some coin if he stays fit

  75. Patrick says:

    Defenders:
    Mitchell, Sam
    Bartel, Jimmy (MID)
    McVeigh, Jarrad
    Cutler, Tom
    Suckling, Matt
    Langford, Will
    (Sharenberg, Matthew, Kolodjashnij, Kade)

    Midfielders:
    Pendlebury, Scott
    Johnson, Steve
    Ablett, Gary
    Beams, Dayne
    Carrazzo, Andrew
    Ellis, Xavier
    Knight, Riley
    Blease, Sam
    (McDonald, Luke, Garlett, Dayle)

    Ruck:
    Sandilands, Aaron
    Grundy, Brodie
    (Longer, Billy, Currie, Daniel)

    Forwards:
    Dangerfield, Patrick (MID)
    Wingard, Chad (MID)
    Franklin, Lance
    Gunston, Jack
    Hogan, Jesse
    Curran, Tom (DEF)
    (Reynolds, Luke (MID), Kersten, Shane)

    Your thoughts guys??

  76. Luttski says:

    Backmen
    1. Walker, A
    $572,500

    2. McVeigh, J
    $572,500
    MID

    3. Mitchell, S
    $562,000
    MID

    4. Hanley, P
    $516,200
    MID

    5. Kolodjashnij, K
    $197,300

    6. Scharenberg, M
    $192,300

    23. McDonald, L
    $182,300
    MID

    24. Fuller, M
    $117,300

    Midfield
    7. Watson, J
    $601,300

    8. Ziebell, J
    $513,600

    9. Murphy, M
    $498,300

    10. Beams, D
    $497,200

    11. Martin, J
    $222,300

    12. Beams, C
    $183,400

    13. Salem, C
    $177,300

    14. Michie, V
    $172,600

    25. Dunstan, L
    $132,300

    26. O'Rourke, J
    $123,900

    Rucks
    15. Kreuzer, M
    $527,900

    16. Grundy, B
    $363,300

    27. Brown, B
    $117,300
    FWD

    28. Nankervis, T
    $117,300

    Forwards
    17. Dangerfield, P
    $609,000
    MID

    18. Martin, D
    $549,200
    MID

    19. Franklin, L
    $487,700

    20. Rioli, C
    $476,700

    21. Hogan, J
    $217,300

    22. Billings, J
    $207,300
    MID

    29. Taylor, L
    $117,300
    MID

    30. Garlett, D
    $117,300
    MID

  77. SC Hardnut says:

    I' ve gone a different strategy to most:
    DEF: Bartel, Mitchell, Swallow, Suckling, Hanley, McDonald, kolodjashnij, Fuller
    MID: Murphy, D.Beams, McVeigh, Shuey, D. Thomas, C.Beams, Morabito, O'Rourke, Dunstan
    RUC: Grundy, Sandilands, Lobby, Nankervis
    FWD: Dangerfield, Martin, Wingard, Parker, Zorko, Rohan, L. Taylor, D. Garlett

    Bank: $55,000

  78. @RyanRhino14 says:

    Def: J.McVeigh, P.Hanley, R.Henderson, M.Suckling, K.Kolojashnij, M.Scharenberg (M.Fuller, D.Gardiner)
    Mid: S.Pendlebury, L.Montagna, T.Rockliff, C.Masten, D.Beams, S.Savage, J.Martin, D.Tyson (L.Dunstan, M.Honeychurch)
    Ruc: N.Naitanui, A.Sandilands (T.Derickx, T.Nankervis)
    Fwd: P.Dangerfield, M.Walters, L.Parker, J.Caddy, J.Billings, L.Taylor (S.Kersten, D.Garlett)
    $51,500 left
    I think i'm set until the nab cup or most likely changed it to something else

    • ShinbonerSpirit says:

      Montagna a no-go for SJ/Swan/Rocky money IMO. Especially with Dal Santo gone, he's copping the brunt of opposition attention. Like the Walters/Parker picks.

  79. NT James the Pom says:

    Here goes my second year of SC, this is a working side, still a bit more studying to be done though, my by rounds analysis =10.10.10,
    lot depends on rookies playing from round 1 too, have $133k left, like to put Zorko in there, had a modest year last, to say the least, I recon will improve this year as he can smash the SC points, let us know your points of view?

    Defenders
    McVeigh, Jarrad (MID) $572500 (SYD)
    Mitchell, Sam (MID) $562000 (HAW)
    Hanley, Pearce (MID) $516200 (BRL)
    Kolodjashnij, Kade $197300 (GCS)
    Scharenberg, Matthew $192300 (COL)
    Laidler, Jeremy $161800 (SYD)
    Tippett, Joel $123900 (NTH)
    Fuller, Matthew $117300 (WBD)

    Mids
    Watson, Jobe $601300 (ESS)
    Steven, Jack $593100 (STK)
    Cotchin, Trent $572000 (RIC)
    Hodge, Luke (DEF) $521600 (HAW)
    Murphy, Marc $498300 (CAR)
    Beams, Dayne $497200 (COL)
    Martin, Jack $222300 (GCS)
    Polec, Jared $172600 (PTA)
    Garlett, Dayle (FWD) $117300 (HAW)
    Honeychurch, Mitch (FWD) $117300 (WBD)

    Rucks
    Lobbe, Matthew $464400 (PTA)
    Sandilands, Aaron $310700 (FRE)
    Lobb, Rory $117300 (GWS)
    Nankervis, Toby $117300 (SYD)

    Forwards
    Dangerfield, Patrick (MID) $609000 (ADE)
    Roughead, Jarryd $531300 (HAW)
    Franklin, Lance $487700 (SYD)
    Hogan, Jesse $217300 (MEL)
    Boyd, Tom $217300 (GWS)
    Bock, Nathan $196900 (GCS)
    Kersten, Shane $123900 (GEE)
    Taylor, Lewis (MID) $117300 (BRL)

    Go the AFL

    • ShinbonerSpirit says:

      Am I the only one who is wary of Zorko? A lot of people are jumping on him, and I'm not quite sure why. Stick clear of Tom Boyd. He's competing with Cameron (who won't be displaced any time soon) and Patton who has a couple of years under his belt now. There's no way they're playing three talls. It didn't really work for North, and it won't work for GWS. The usual injury question marks about Sandi, but I'm sure you're aware of that already. Jack Steven will drop in price slightly – he's priced at 110. I know you're after Hodge's DPP link but I don't think it's worth it for 521k. See what I wrote below re: Dayne Garlett. Scharenberg game time queries, but overall it's a solid pre-NAB squad!

    • jockreynolds says:

      Like it mate and great to see you ready for another crack at it! I'd leave Jack Steven alone, reckon you missed the train on him last year and he's at overs at nearly 600K

      • NT James the Pom says:

        Thanks Jock and team, heads up for the rookie cheat sheet, had a great first season, had a week 1,week 2 and week 3 twice, nearly to the grand final, top advice and pod casts, with smart information, didn't know what a gun was when I first started!!
        Anyway Changed my set up slightly to

        DEF
        McVeigh, Jarrad (MID)
        Hanley, Pearce (MID)
        Lumumba, Heritier (MID)
        Grimes, Jack (MID)
        Suckling, Matt
        McDonald, Luke (MID)
        Fuller, Matthew
        Cutler, Tom

        MID
        Selwood, Joel
        Cotchin, Trent
        Mitchell, Sam (DEF)
        Murphy, Marc
        Beams, Dayne
        Swallow, David (DEF)
        Polec, Jared
        Dunstan, Luke
        Langdon, Tom (DEF)
        Honeychurch, Mitch (FWD)

        RUCKS
        Lobbe, Matthew
        Sandilands, Aaron
        Lobb, Rory
        Nankervis, Toby

        FORWARDS
        Dangerfield, Patrick (MID)
        Roughead, Jarryd
        Franklin, Lance
        Walker, Taylor
        Hogan, Jesse
        Kersten, Shane
        Taylor, Lewis (MID)
        Garlett, Dayle (MID)

        A lot depends on who plays in the NAB games there also could be some changes, some off the players I had earlier may or may not start, if some off these other players play, then I should get some good cash rewards to reward myself with better gunssssss

        Cheers

  80. @maxwills13 says:

    Def: McVeigh, Mitchell, Hanley, Suckling, Darley, McDonald (Laidler, Fuller)
    Mid: Pendlebury, Selwood, JP. Kennedy, Beams, Shuey, J.Martin, Tyson, Dunstan (Morabito, Perris)
    Ruc: Mumford, Sandilands (Longer, King)
    Fwd: Dangerfield, Martin, Hawkins, T.Walker, Lamb, Kersten (D.Garlett, L.Taylor)
    $10,100

    Toss Up between Michie and Tyson… If I went with Michie, Nankervis would replace King in the ruck.
    Frustrating when you miss out on what you'd like to have by $4,000!
    Not overly sure on this team though, I like it for pre nab cup though

  81. Dools says:

    G’day Max13
    You have just made my day..wHY ‘ your team is fantastic It’s like a rescipe a dash of Premium here a dose of Rookie there and I’m being serious I Rate the Fwd line mate

  82. @maxwills13 says:

    I'll tell you dools, you made my day! Cheers mate!

    • @maxwills13 says:

      I'm sorta hoping I could get: first 4 defenders, first 5 maybe 6 mids, the 2 rucks and first 4 forwards to all squeeze out premium output early and first 2 on every line and mummy in the ruck to get me uber premium output at least… But one can only dream!

  83. Matt says:

    Here we go with Version 2.

    DEF
    Bartel, Mitchell, McVeigh, Swallow, McDonald, Laidler (Fuller, Richards)

    MID
    Pendlebury, Griffen, J Watson, Beams, D. Thomas, J. Martin, Tyson, Polec (Garlett, Prudden)

    RUC
    NicNat, Lobbe, (Apeness, Mitchell)

    FWD
    Dangerfield, Wingard, L. Parker, Higgins, Bock, Rohan (Honeychurch, Towers)

    This leaves me 37k over budget, but not too worried seeing there will be changes to rookies and in other areas to come. Not 100% sold on NicNat, but dont really want to pay 600k+ for a ruckman if i can help it, or Dave Swallow, but i'll watch him.

    • ShinbonerSpirit says:

      Higgins is repeat burnman. Could be an inspired choice, but I still have scars. Like the Luke Parker pick, I've got him in my team too. See what I said below to Raj with Dayne Garlett. I'd start Fuller ahead of Laider to be honest. I've been hearing he's the next Brett Goodes – mature-age rookies are great for SC. The usual concerns about Bock. As long as he's fit and named for Round 1. Ruck is strong. How about Kade Simpson over Bartel? Will save you a fair amount of coin and the two will score similarly this season.

  84. SCMania says:

    Thoughts on Jed Lamb?

    • Rhino says:

      Hi SCMania, I really rate him , he was starting to cement his spot at sydney, he will be a permanted midfielder at gws, could be a genius choice

      • SCMania says:

        Thanks Rhino, I want a strong ruck and I want Zorko, I can't afford Lamb at the moment. What do Zhou think is the better choice, Getting Zorko to fit in or trying to fit Lamb in there?

      • ShinbonerSpirit says:

        There's always Jon O'Rourke waiting to step up after an injury-plagued 2013. Spots in that midfield will be hard to come by.

  85. chandanrajdb says:

    Hello Community,

    V2 of my team…….thoughts would be much appreciated……..

    DEF:
    S Mitchell, P Hanley, W Schofield, M Suckling, K K, L McDonald, (T Cutler, M Fuller)

    MID:
    G Ablett, S Pendlebury, T Cotchin, M Murphy, D Beams, D Thomas, J Martin, A Morabito, (V Michie, X Eliis)

    RUC:
    A Sandilands, H McIntosh, (M Apeness, T Nankervis)

    FWD:
    P Dangerfield, D Martin, C Wingard, C Dixon, J Hogan, L Taylor, (M Honeychurch, D Garlett)

    Any feedback / thoughts / comments would be really appreciated…….

    Cheers,
    Raj…..

    • ShinbonerSpirit says:

      Hey there Raj.

      Sandilands and McIntosh? The two most injury-prone ruckmen in the league? Well… can't say I didn't warn ya! Forward line looks strong, just concerns for Garlett in my opinion. From what Clarkson has said upon signing the boy, he's going to take the cautious route with Garlett in light of his known behavioral issues. Might not get significant game time until some time into the season. Defence is solid. Same with midfield.

      • chandanrajdb says:

        Hey SS….

        Thanks for your comment above mate…..

        I am taking a punt in the RUC position by having two injury prone players……but in saying that, both of them are Proven Premos……of-course they should be fit and firing……have a cover if one them breaks down by swinging Dixon into the RUCK through M Apeness……will have a very close look at both of them during the NAB challenge…..if they pull out unscathed…..then i will be happy having both of them in my team for R1……too risky I know…..fortune favors the brave mate……

        DEF: I am still tossing up between W Schofield and C Guthrie…..not totally sold on W Schofield…..what do you think…..

        and regarding Garlett…..will see how he is going during the NAB cup…..and if there is any other Rookie pops up in that price range during the NAB cup…….

        Thanks again for your comment mate…..much appreciated……

        Cheers,
        Raj……

        • ShinbonerSpirit says:

          I prefer Schofield. However, 40k north of that and you have yourself Lachie Hansen who will continue the rebounding Brian Lake role in the the North defence this season. Another 30k north of that and you have Broadbent who I feel is in for a big season.

    • throttlefinger says:

      Strong mids and fwd line. Like the Schofield-Suckling duo. Be prepared for KK not starting (Laidler has been considered for R1 for Swans).

      Like Shinboner said, you've kinda have gone all in with the mids/fwd at the expense of the rucks. Would recommend replacing one of them with someone more reliable. Even Grundy would be a steadier choice. You have Dixon as a backup ruck but can't see Apeness, Honeychurch and Garlett getting any time before R10.

      Nice V2, Raj!

      • chandanrajdb says:

        Hey TF….

        Thanks for your comment mate…..

        From all the news coming from cattery and dockers they both are doing really well in their pre-season till date…..and no signs of any injury setback or anything like that……I am not going to change my RUCKS till i watch NAB cup and see any sort of issues with either of them then I will think of altering the RUCKS…..till then i will probably hold on to these two…..

        Regarding the FWD rookie player…..who do you think will get a go from RD1…..

        and regarding KK from GCS why would you think that he will not be starting in RD1……any source…..almost all of the teams published in here have got him in their sides…….

        Regarding Laidler……do you really think he will make the cut into the Swans team…..???…..

        Thanks again for your comment above mate…….much appreciated……

        Cheers,
        Raj…..

        • throttlefinger says:

          Think your first bit sums it up…not to move until you see NAB and R1 selections. I've heard great things about KK but, and I apologize if I can't think off top of head where I read it, but it was saying he's not a shoe in for R1. Looking good but still a rook.

          I like Lennon for Fwd R1. Deadeye shooter. News has been that he's been doing well at Punt Rd. Another I like is Nahas. Good goal sneak. Think with good NAB he might make round 1. I have Taylor and Garlett as my reserves, so I think you've got it covered.

          Read that Laidler could make it in the 22. For the price, worth keeping on your list.

  86. ShinbonerSpirit says:

    Feedback much appreciated! Team v2.0:

    DEF: McVeigh, Enright, Broadbent, Seedsman, Suckling, McDonald (Cutler, Fuller)
    MID: Watson, Scooter, D Beams, Armitage, D Thomas, L Anthony, C Beams, Michie (O'Rourke, Aish)
    RUC: Lobbe, Grundy (Currie, Nankervis)
    FWD: Dangerfield, Roughead, Parker, Hawkins, Clark, Fasolo (Bock, Kersten)

    • throttlefinger says:

      What I like best about this Team Shinboner is that you've made me look up stats about some of the players. Nice PODs, my friend. Broadbent and Seedsman are good risks, given their age and experience. Enright I like but I'd shell out the extra $1K to get his buddy Taylor. Avg 15 goals the last two years, which is good for a Def. Plus Corey getting up there in age.

      Balls out on the mids! Passing by Gazza, Pendles AND Jelwood?!? Plum time, Shinny. Like the Armitage pick but feel you're leaving yourself a bit exposed. Need another proven gun. Like Boak or Fyfe. Maybe since you're going against the grain, JPK, Boyd or O'Keefe. Bennell or Treloar? Seems that the mids are built with a little too much hope.

      Rucks, I like this structure. Think this has a tinge of risk but the value is there and the upside could earn you some nice cheese.

      And the PODelights continue in the FWD. Dools let me have it for suggesting Tomahawk. He may be the sleeper. I'm going to watch him closely during preseason. Since they can't fix his back, I wonder if he can recover enough to touch the hem of his 2012 form. If so, he be in. Like Parker and Roughy call too. Fasolo won't start. They are bringing him back slow and the Pies forward line has enough hands up as it is. May have to switch with Bock, who may start R1. Consider Lennon or Nahas (goal sneak could make it in for R1).

      • ShinbonerSpirit says:

        Appreciate it mate!

        Harry Taylor is a frustrating figure – he will smash it for a 110 before scoring 74. I can't put my weak heart through that kind of trauma! What I do like is Enright's reliability. I wrote him off last year due to age, and that didn't turn out well for me. Instead, I ended up with Paul Duffield. If Enright can average a steady 90-95 this season, I'm more than happy.

        Yeah the midfield is looking a little weak – I'll work on bringing Gazza in. Going nowhere near The Man With No Calves (Boyd)!

        Thanks for the Fasolo call, hadn't thought of that. Cheers!

        • throttlefinger says:

          Great point about Taylor and Enright. Definitely go with your gut on that one. Again over strong squad.

  87. 1st Selection Drama says:

    Def: S Mitchell, P Hanley, B Stratton, J Watts, K Kolodjashnij, M Scharenberg, (L McDonald, M Fuller(
    Mid: S Pendlebury, M Barlow, N Fyfe, M Murphy, D Beams, S Wellingham, D Thomas, J Martin, (A Morabito, J O'Rourke)
    Ruck: A Sandilands, H McIntosh (R Lobb, T Nankervis)
    Fwd: P Dangerfield, D Martin, C WIngard, J Hogan, B Lennon, D Garlett, (J Kennedy-Harris, L Taylor)
    $113,600 in the kitty

  88. Ally says:

    Hey guys , just wondering what u think of my team , any suggestions will be appreciated :)

    Defenders
    Jarrad McVeigh [SYD] [MID]
    $572,500
    Pearce Hanley [BRL] [MID]
    $516,200
    Grant Birchall [HAW]
    $496,600
    Kade Kolodjashnij [GCS]
    $197,300
    Luke McDonald [NTH] [MID]
    $182,300
    Tom Cutler [BRL]
    $117,300
    Tom Langdon [COL] [MID]
    $117,300
    Matthew Fuller [WBD]
    $117,300

    Midfielders
    Gary Ablett [GCS]
    $695,000
    Scott Pendlebury [COL]
    $683,100
    Joel Selwood [GEE]
    $638,700
    Sam Mitchell [HAW] [DEF]
    $562,000
    Dayne Beams [COL]
    $497,200
    Jack Martin [GCS]
    $222,300
    James Aish [BRL]
    $187,300
    Anthony Morabito [FRE]
    $123,900
    Jonathan O'Rourke [GWS]
    $123,900
    Lewis Taylor [BRL] [FWD]
    $117,300

    Rucks
    Shane Mumford [GWS]
    $496,000
    Aaron Sandilands [FRE]
    $310,700
    Michael Apeness [FRE] [FWD]
    $137,300
    Daniel Currie [NTH]
    $123,900

    Forwards
    Patrick Dangerfield [ADE] [MID]
    $609,000
    Dustin Martin [RIC] [MID]
    $549,200
    Chad Wingard [PTA] [MID]
    $531,800
    Jarryd Roughead [HAW]
    $531,300
    Gary Rohan [SYD]
    $176,200
    Shane Kersten [GEE]
    $123,900
    Liam McBean [RIC]
    $123,900
    Dayle Garlett [HAW] [MID]
    $117,300

  89. Will says:

    Im having a few problems with my rucks, whether to go with..

    Premium (NicNat, Kreuzer, McEvoy) Mid Pricer (Grundy, Sandi) then 2 rookies. If one of the two starting ruck men go down then there is a big chance you will be one down for the round. or..

    3 Mid Pricers in Sandi, Grundy, Hickey and 1 rookie. This ensures there will almost always be a back up.

    However, i think a premium ruck men is ultra important because they will get you the scores, where as your Grundys and Hickeys will have there down matches and won't be punching out the big scores, they will simply be getting games, Which is also important in its own right.

    So.. i fiddled around and my rucks are;

    McEvoy
    Sandilands
    Apreness (FWD)
    Curry

    and i have put Dixon in the forward line which now is the security i think i need..
    Thoughts and feedback, any other ideas would be great..

    • Cameron says:

      Didnt think dixon would be playing until 5 rounds in possibly, still under recovery.
      McEvoy mightnt score as well, if he and Hale switch around, and then with Roughead too

      I'm leaning towards Bellchambers in the forward line as cover

  90. SCMania says:

    Here is my fresh new team!

    DEF: S. Mitchell J. Bartel J. McVeigh M. Suckling K. Koladjashnij L. McDonald ( J. Laidler M. Fuller )

    MID: S. Pendlebury J. Selwood T. Cotchin D. Beams J. Martin D. Tyson J. Aish L. Dunstan ( L. Taylor D. Garlett )

    RUC: I. Maric M. Lobbe ( M. Apeness D. Currie )

    FWD: P. Dangerfield D. Zorko D. Martin J. Lamb J. Hogan N. Bock ( G. Rohan S. Kersten )

    125k left

    I really like the team but I really want to fit other players in.

    First of all I want Lewis Taylor on my bench in the FWD, Rohan on the field. I can't do it yet though because I already have Lamb and Zorko who I want in there. If I get him in there I could get O' Rourke or Morabito, I also wouldn't mind Lennon, it's not a big problem without him though. In the midfield I don't have Murphy, Watson, Shuey and Ablett who I would mind in there if need be. I'm happy enough with the backline but I'm not too sure about Laidler? Also who is a better option out of Apeness and Rory Lobb?

    Any other advice or feedback appreciated! Thanks.

    • SCMania says:

      Just brought Ablett in for Cotchin, thanks!

    • throttlefinger says:

      Hey SCMania. I like Apeness. Sandis penchant for not playing a full season and who know if Clarke's dancing injury will linger. Plus a forward swing is nice to have. And not sure about Laidler as well. Thought Towers looked good in NAB last season but never made it into the forward line. So may be tough for Laidler to break in. I like Cutler and Gardiner but doubt those two will make it in the Lions lineup in R1. But have read great things about Cutler.

      Think you've gone top heavy on your DEFs at the expense of your Mids. Lot of rooks in your starting mids. Would think about downgrading Bartel to Birchall or Enright/Taylor so you can add a Murph or Shuey. Maybe a Treloar. Or if you don't want to touch your DEFs, get Gaff if you want to spend less money. Just don't know starting Martin as your M5.

      Rucks is a good mix. Strong POD. And with Hampson giving aid, Maric could have a big year.

      FWD line is adventurous for sure. Like the Lamb pick. Want to see how he and Bock do in preseason before committing. I'm a big Lennon guy. Think he'll get a go as Tiges need help with goal scoring.

      • bloke says:

        I disagree on Apeness. I think if he came into the team he'd play forward. Dockers would play Hannath over Apeness in the ruck. Although he could get a look in later in the season but will only play a couple of games I'd of thought

  91. Robbie says:

    hey boys just wondering is Nathan Bock worth a look or is anyone around that price range better?

    • throttlefinger says:

      Hey Robbie. I think Bock joins a big heap of players who NAB play will decide if they make it in. Potential is there for sure. Form and fitness will dictate if he's a solid F5-6 choice.

  92. Derek says:

    Defenders

    Mitchell, S
    Suckling, M
    McVeigh, J
    Kolodjashnij, K
    Buntine, M
    McDonald, L
    Cutler, T
    Fuller, M

    Midfield

    Ablett, G
    Pendlebury, S
    Selwood, J
    Cotchin, T
    Murphy, M
    Beams, D
    Thomas, D
    Martin, J
    Langdon, T
    Garlett, D

    Rucks
    McIntosh, H
    Sandilands, A
    Currie, D
    Smith, A

    Forwards

    Dangerfield, P
    Franklin, L
    Rioli, C
    Lamb, J
    Bock, N
    Rohan, G
    Honeychurch, M
    Taylor, L

    $1300 in bank

    • throttlefinger says:

      Solid team, Derek. Butine is a nice pick if he makes R1 selections. Very strong Mids, but created at the expense of your rucks. That's a lot of risk on two players who haven't done a full 22 in a long time. May want to consider downgrading one of your mids so you can upgrade one of the rucks to Lobbe. Or even Grundy. FWDs is a good mix, although I've gotten burned by Rioli. He's someone I'd bring in if he's showing great form after R1-5. Bock and Rohan I'd keep an eye on during NAB to see if they are worth a punt. Like Taylor. Think he'll get some time sooner rather than later.

      • Derek says:

        I'm a Hawks fan so I get blinded by Rioli's ability sometimes but cant see how it doesn't convert to SC points.
        Buntine is a very good player and had some awful luck last year. I was thinking GWS defence will see plenty of the ball again this year.
        Mcintosh, Sadi, Bock and Rohan are just so cheap for their ability, I couldn't not put them in my first draft team

    • Farnzy says:

      Smashing midfield but unfortunately in doing this it has weakened the rest of your side. Drop one of Gaz or Pendles and stengthen your Def and Rucks.

  93. Andrew says:

    Defenders
    1. McVeigh, J 2. Toovey, A 3. Shaw, R

    4. Weller, M 5. Grimes, D 6. McDonald
    , L
    23. Laidler, J 24. Jones, Z

    Mid

    7. Gaff, A 8. Thomas, D 9. Savage, S

    10. Martian, J 11. Aish, J 12. Beams, C

    13. Sheed, D 14. Ellis, X

    25. Garlett, D 26. Polec, J

    Rucks
    15. Grundy, B 16. Hickey, T

    27. Longer, B 28. Brown, B

    forwards
    17. Betts, E 18. Pavlich, M 19. Daniher, J

    20. Smedts, B 21. Hogan, J 22. Rohan, G

    29. Taylor, L 30. Honeychurch, M

    As you can see i have a lot of cash cows in my team, usually have about 2 million left in the bank. so this way through the season as my players go up in price i can trade them into ablett, sawn, watson, ect, ect, and if i average $80,000 to $100,00 increase ill make about 2 mill of them. bold strategy, lose some games early on in the season but once you get to round 10 to 12 you barely drop a game, has got me to 4 grand finals in the last 2 years. the buy rounds have been very beneficial for me because i can make 3 trades each round. so if for example crouch, ross and beams go up by 100 to 150 thousand and ablett drops in price i save myself 200,000 on him. also if i struggle to field a full side I’m going to be making trades in the by rounds anyway so it doesn’t affect me, and i don’t have to worry about good players getting injured until rounds 10 to 12 or a star having a bad season

    • rolling thunder says:

      Ridiculous- seems like youre having laugh or taking the p155!!!

      If you play in public leagues you might have made grand finals- but since most public leagues are full of phantom teams for people who never log on after round 8 you may have a chance.
      You have no C and no VC- you have no real keepers. And by the time you go to trade in all these rookies they would have reached their peak price and actually begun to fall in price.

      You would need to make at least 22 trades to get in 22 keepers- the earliest you could that is by round 14.
      I think you miss the idea and strategy behind SC. You would be lucky to score 1500 points with that team. Considering the top teams had 2300+ points round 1 I really dont know what sort of grand finals you think you are going to make.
      If you play in any league with people who actually play SC and trade all year I would be surprised if you finished any higher than 17th.
      I plan to have a full strength team by round 10- and so do you- except for the first 10 rounds I ill have a team potentially scoring 2300 and yours will be lucky to have got to 2300 once in the first 8 round.
      Thats my take. And sorry if you are being serious- but it seems like you are tryna have a laugh or troll. Apologies if youre not.

      • throttlefinger says:

        Agree. Other than McV, there's nothing here to give you a strong foundation to build on. If this is your first year, then I can understand this team…because this is what it looked my first year too (before I learned about Jock's site, which was, unfortunately, after Round 1). If you're squeezing tits, then haha. If not, everyone here could give you suggestions.

      • andrew says:

        Hey Guys, love the responses! i can assure you i am not here to take the mickey or troll. Just to clear things up before i give my response , this is my strategy and has been developed over 3 years of playing, i am usually in 3 to 4 private leagues a year in witch 65 to 90% take it seriously, varies in leagues.

        i can see your point and have probably gone a bit over board this year with cash cows and as to why you would question my authenticity as a serious supercoach player. each year i usually have 2 to 3 premiums forward and back that i can rely on, my team usually look this way at this time of year, slowly weed out the players with less potential to score high and increase in money, as for the midfield, that will stay the same, maybe swap a few cash cows. last year my team had an increase of about 2.4m,

        i admit its a risky strategy and i haven't ever finished in the top 4, maybe top 6 twice, but at the end of the year i can brag to my mates that i won

        rollingthunder, it would be interesting to compare my strategy to yours, is your team up? how do you go about building your team?

        Thanks throttlefinger also for the feed back, is your team viewable to?

        • Dools says:

          G’day Andrew,
          Very pleased with your reasoning and cash generation tactic ….However I really am intrested..IOT generate 2 . 4 M (Awsesome effort BTW) where did you start (How much in da bank) and was this figure added to the tally?
          Anyhow I liked the team after your explanation but like everything else ‘All Plans Go Pear Shaped after The 1st Shot!’…

        • NutSack says:

          1Bartel, Jimmy (MID) $572,500
          2McVeigh, Jarrad (MID) $572,500
          3Mitchell, Sam (MID) $562,000
          4Laidler, Jeremy $161,800
          5Kolodjashnij, Kade $197,300
          6Langdon, Tom (MID) $117,300
          7McDonald, Luke (MID) $182,300
          8Fuller, Matthew $117,300
          MIDFIELDERS
          1Watson, Jobe $601,300
          2Cotchin, Trent $572,000
          3Sidebottom, Steele $555,300
          4Beams, Dayne $497,200
          5Thomas, Dale $341,800
          6Pendlebury, Scott $683,100
          7Ellis, Xavier $159,100
          8Polec, Jared $172,600
          9Morabito, Anthony $123,900
          10Crouch, Matt $117,300
          RUCKS
          1Sandilands, Aaron $310,700
          2Lobbe, Matthew $464,400
          3Nankervis, Toby $117,300
          4Apeness, Michael (FWD) $137,300
          FORWARDS
          1Dangerfield, Patrick (MID) $609,000
          2Martin, Dustin (MID) $549,200
          3Wingard, Chad (MID) $531,800
          4Franklin, Lance $487,700
          5Garlett, Dayle (MID) $117,300
          6Taylor, Lewis (MID) $117,300
          7Honeychurch, Mitch (MID) $117,300
          8Thurlow, Fraser (RUC) $118,400

          I want Suckling so might have to save 100K on Sidebottom and go for D Swallow, Gray, Zorko or Grimes instead.

          • NutSack says:

            hey andrew here is rollings team you were asking about. Like I added at the end of the team I would prefer Suckling and a more powerful defense- and some of the rooks would need to play round 1. I agree with rolling and others though that you'd need at least 10 keepers to begin with. That way you could still have heaps of cash in the bank but will still have a competitve team. Last year defense was a nightmare and you wouldnt want to be stresing about one line on the field whilst the rest of your team needs upgrading aswell.

    • Sh00ter says:

      Bold strategy mate, I admire your ambition.
      Key is to ensureat least 85% of these guys are in their respective team's best 22's/playing early to ensure you post a weekly score and they rise in value. Can be done!
      Risky though you would probably win 2/3 max games first half in a semi-competitive league but if you hold back on trades no reason why you wouldn't peak for finals (if you scrape in).
      Has some merit, I reckon you need to balance it out with a couple more premiums. Have 1-2 on all lines, one in the ruck. You need some captain cover and some reliable 110+ scores so you can win 4-5 games first half and make a sustained charge at finals.
      Good luck I would like to follow you what is your team name?

      • Sh00ter says:

        What about adding Griffen and D. Beams to your midfield and Danger to your forward line to give you some more stability? You obviously have the cap room.

    • Farnzy says:

      Interesting strategy…….. Not something I'd be endorsing! If winning leagues is your only objective it may be a feasible structure. I'm keen to know what your final rankings have been using this method. I couldn't imagine anyone starting with this type of structure would get within 4000 to 5000 points of the winner of the comp! Good luck regardless mate hope it works out for you.

      • Andrew says:

        Once again, cheers for the reply's,

        Just for the record i checked last years states and i made 1902 in the first round with only 3 guys above 400,000 in the team, and with B, Goodes on the bench who made 113 and horlin-smith on the field who made 5, Jack Viney and Oliver Wines carried the side with 117 and 125 respectably.
        for those wondering i finished 113,928 overall, on a total of 45,286 points, 7,595 behind the winner for total points accumulated, by round 7 i first hit the 2000 mark and round 16 was my highest score with 2409, I averaged 1800 for the first 6 rounds, i also won the last 9 games of the season. my average (excluding by rounds) was 2225 for the period

        Sh00ter- your dead right, have to make sure most of the cash cows i pick will play, thats why richmond have been so reliable over the past few years, they've blooded all of there first round picks within the first couple of rounds, that's only one player though, admittedly this strategy works better when there was new teams entering the comp, e.g., GWS and Gold Coast. mainly because you could rely on them to get games.
        cheers on wanting to follow my team and its progress, adds a little extra pressure to get it right now.

        Giant Midgets is the name i run by. if anyone wished to follow my progress.

        Farnzy- you were completely right, was 7500 of the leader, for me though over the past few years it has just been about winning my leagues and beating my mates. looking for more of a challenge now though, might have to tweak my game plan a lot to get it to its fullest potential. any feedback/tips are welcome.

    • Wombats says:

      Hi Andrew,
      I understand what you are attempting but I think you should re-consider all of the players you have that are priced over $300k. Eddie Betts is very patchy and just as likely to lose you half of what you make on a rookie, Pav is a bit old, well past his best and also patchy and he wont increase in value, McViegh: last year was his best year ever and way above his previous season average, if he returns to 2012/11/10/09 form he will go down in value by more than $100k by round 10.
      I'm using the opposite strategy to you, 4Premium defenders, 5 Premium Mids, 3Premium fwds, 3Previous starts returning from injury(low cost/high risk) and 15cheap rookies. $5k left.

      Out of curiosity what was your total score for the season last year?

  94. S.JOHNSON says:

    THOUGHTS ON STRUCTURE
    DEF
    MCVEIGH, HANLEY, HIBBERD, KK, L.MCDONALD, L THOMPSON, CUTLER, TIPPET
    MIDS
    COTCHIN, WATSON, BARLOW, BEAMS, MURPHY, T.MITCHELL, MARTIN, AISH, HONEYCHURCH, J.HUNT
    RUCK
    LOBBE, SANDI, CURRIE, APENESS
    FWD
    DANGER, MARTIN, WINGARD, ZORKO, HOGAN, WEARDEN, KERSTEN, SPINA

    • throttlefinger says:

      Very solid structure, S.Johnson. Only thought would be in your DEF having a mid pricer like Suckling or Schofield between your elites and rook. Thompson may not get the nod. Same thought with Wearden. But if you have any coin left over, you can make those moves after seeing what everyone can do in NAB and R1 selections.

  95. throttlefinger says:

    Played around with the structure based on lots of the conversation here. Taken some chances. Like to hear which are made with good plums and which are fools plums:

    DEF
    McV, Birchall, Reid, B, Schofield, Suckling, L. McD (Fuller, Battersby)

    MID
    Pendles, K. Jack, Fyfe, Scooter Selwood, Beams, Gaff, Martin, Dunstan (Morabito, Honeychurch)

    RUC
    Mummy, Grundy (Apeness, A. Smith)

    FWD
    Danger, Buddy, Zorko, Lamb, Hogan, Lennon (Taylor, Garlett)

    $41K left. Some wiggle room if needed. Wanted to bring in Treloar but thought this mid had more pop. May still move Fyfe or Jack down to Treloar to beef up FWDs. Any thoughts?

    • bloke says:

      I like it. Do think if Sandi or McIntosh come up round 1 they'd offer more than Grundy. Trelor would be one hell of a POD. What do you see him averaging. I wouldn't mind a look at him. Don't like Buddy but that's just me

      • throttlefinger says:

        I'm not a big Buddy fan either, Bloke. But it's more emotions driven. Think for having a below Buddy season he had a decent year. New team, new expectations, think he may come out strong. Especially at that price. He could be like Cloke last season. Wait 'til he hits big then trade him off before he sinks.

        Go back and forth about throwing Sandi in there. Same thinking as Buddy. At that price, he could come in, play 10 games and get hurt/rested, yet his value increases $150K to make easy upgrade to Will/Goldie.

        I'm leaning on throwing Treloar back in there so I can upgrade my F3 or F4. Thanks for your thoughts, Bloke.

      • throttlefinger says:

        Just wondering if:
        1. Schofield and Suckling together is stronger than one of them plus a R1 rookie
        2. Better to bring in Treloar for Fyfe to free up money for Fwds
        3. Sandi for Grundy to free up money for Fwds and potential cash if Sandi goes R1-10+.
        4. Danger/Franklin/Zorko is strong enough or do the above to bring in Wingard?

        Trying to get my structure in line. Then figure out trade plan against it.

        • Dools says:

          Okay I have been tardy, Motherboard and I have come to an understanding and we both agree that it’s hot and now the blame for the Podsiadly typo rests squarley with the Next G device..She insists it was just an auto correct but I’m not sold…….Anywho
          TF I rate the team posted and u have managed to convince me of the wce duo Scotter and Gaff ( I was going Wellingham ) it looks fantastic…. Glad to see a very strong Fwd Line including the dude that Branded you last year..I think he may still make it to my 22 but more on that another time. Wingard is now in the same position the Magnificent one was in Pre season…..Hmmm What happened to Dixson? I was sold on him after our chats and the Barrons article????
          good to see a great team with optimum potential… Nice.

          • Throttlefinger says:

            Still high on Dixon, Dools. In consideration. Would like to have another ruck cover. Move Zorko to F4 if possible.

            Glad the keyboard and you are square. No room for that tomfoolery.

          • Dools says:

            Why is everyone leaving a skeleton crew in the Ruc’s Rucs for me ATM “Hamberger, Lobbe with Grundy as R3″
            Building a narley Def around K Simpson has been hard but here it is ….K.Simpson ,Birchell (or Mitchell/McV/Bartels or even Taylor), Schofield, Swallow D., Suckling, Douherty & Mc Donald with Fuller and maybe a random
            a400 k LEFT IN THE WAR CHEST….But I will say this has been extreamly difficult…If’s But’s and Maybe’s ATM A reasonable def Not world shattering but reasonable So the keybord understands when I drink it types and the Next G device will not try and understand just send the Info LOL….Podsiadley naw you spelt it wrong See we are being nice to each other….(For Now… Da Da Damamamamama Que Shark fin and Cello’s)

            • throttlefinger says:

              This is "buts and maybe" time for sure. Easy to outmaneuver yourself. Need to create a quick ref sheet to my logic. 5 bullets about each player. Top pros and cons. My reasonings is becoming as mangled as your keyboard, Dools.

              Kade was a mainstay of my first teams. Thought he was locked in like a Coopers and sausage rolls on game day. Then Jock's article about him and I thought twice. The occasional stinker mixed with never outstanding scores. Not completely toss out. But rather sink by going with a dynamic player such as Hanley than a guy who is likely to go big only in the bad way.

              Like your team. Swallow I'm not as high about. R. Henderson maybe a little more but neither a lock. Like the rest. Think Docherty shows good form in Nab he may be in there. May want one of the big 3 trio to work with Kade. Leaning more towards Mitchell and McV. Lager in the China for Schofield, Dools. Thanks.

    • Max says:

      Have i missed something on Schofield?
      And i think you need an extra rookie in the midfield because it is the main position for cash generation? Great team though!

      • throttlefinger says:

        My man Dools has been saying to watch Schofield. He could be this year's Hanley in terms of value. Like most things, preseason form will determine if in lineup.

        You think 4 rooks in the mid is not enough? Thinking is do a mix of solid premium/borderline elites and underpriced premiums and a couple of rooks. Since rook prices are very high, wait until see their form. Can always bring in after their 2nd go.

        Probably going to swap Treloar for Fyfe (touch schedule for Docs) so I can change Zorko for Wingard. Not sure. Thanks for your thoughts, Max.

        • Rhubarb says:

          I've only just made space in the Mids to make the change from Zorko to Wingard myself. For me it helps balance the bye rounds for my team but I also think Zorko might spend a little more time forward this year and therefore reduce his scoring potential. This is pure speculation on my part (isn't that the point) but I see others like Beams, Rich and Hanley driving run together with Redden, Rockliff and Moloney and others like Mayes, Aish and Crisp getting midfield exposure as they rebuild.

          Depends on who you feel will have the better year, Treloar or Zorko but could another option be to have Zorko and Windgard instead of Zorko and Fyfe?

          • throttlefinger says:

            Great point about Zorko moving forward, Rhubarb. Zorko I got burned on last year. But looking at this past years, he just had a bad year. Too good a player to repeat, in my opinion. Considering Dixon instead of Wingard. Save the loot and have another ruck as a backup in case Sandi poops out.

            I'm feeling Treloar will build off last year and take it up a notch. Don't feel others will have him as well.

      • Dools says:

        G’day Max
        I think at this stage Schofield is on mate
        Hanley is done and dusted (everyone want’s him now) So Keyboard Next G and I are firm in the pants for him ATM.

      • Max says:

        Throttlefinger, I see what your getting at I've even tried the 4 rookies in there as well! I just think that the rookies available in the midfield are far greater picks than the ones in fwd/def, but that's me…

        I can see how you love his run dools but the fact is we are looking for gaff, Shuey, Selwood, nic nat, Priddis, wellingham, cox, hurn, darling and Jjk to score premium… No more than generally 5/6 players at most per team do that. And schofield is more of a defensive player IMO… So I'm a little juniors about picking him…

  96. @GeeBS65 says:

    Hi community, comments on my team balance and current structure please. Looking forward to your guidance

    Def: S.Mitchell P.Hanley J.Grimes M.Suckling L.McDonald J.Laidler (K.Kolodjashnij M.Fuller)
    Mid: S.Pendlebury S.Selwood J.Watson D.Beams M.Murphy D.Thomas D.Tyson J.Martin (V.Michie, L.Dunstan)
    Ruc: M.Lobbe S.Mumford (M.Apeness T.Nankervis)
    Fwd: P.Dangerfield D.Martin C.Wingard N.Bock D.Garlett M.Honeychurch (L.McBean L.Taylor)

    • Dools says:

      Hey mate,
      2 leaps on Rookies one in Def and one in Fwds
      Mhhmmm Mummy Keeps on bobbing his head up…I know I am missing it but Nah seriously????
      Garlett is a very long bow (a.) to break into side & (b.) replace a position tha A. Clarkson has been looking to plug for 14 months !Garlett is not his replacement…. Honeychurch as your F 6 Wow big, big call with your cover for both F5 and 6 even less likely to play Ya That’s Wow…

    • Derek says:

      Garlett won't get much of a game at the Hawks. If he does it will be green vests. I would be looking at Rookies from the lower teams. Have a look at Marksworth from the Saints.

      I like you having MELB defenders (they will see a lot of the ball this year) but Grimes is expensive. I would even consider J Watt ahead of Grimes as he will also get Midfield time.

  97. rhino says:

    Hi guys, would love some thoughts on what team is better, thanks.

    Team 1

    Bartel, Jimmy (MID) $572,500Mitchell, Sam (MID) $562,000

    Simpson, Kade $513,200Hansen, Lachlan $393,500

    Suckling, Matt $312,200McDonald, Luke (MID) $182,300

    Russell, Sam $110,400Fuller, Matthew $117,300

    Pendlebury, Scott $683,100Montagna, Leigh $619,000

    Selwood, Scott $559,800Beams, Dayne $497,200

    Savage, Shane $341,600Martin, Jack $222,300

    Beams, Claye $183,400Morabito, Anthony $123,900

    Gray, Sam $102,400Hunt, Jayden (DEF) $117,300

    Mumford, Shane $496,000Sandilands, Aaron $310,700

    Apeness, Michael (FWD) $137,300King, Max $102,400

    Riewoldt, Nick $567,100Petrie, Drew $554,300

    Kennedy, Josh J. $485,200Parker, Luke (MID) $468,800

    Caddy, Josh (MID) $325,300Honeychurch, Mitch (MID) $117,300

    Taylor, Lewis (MID) $117,300Johnson, Blaine $102,400

    Team 2

    Hodge, Luke (MID) $521,600Hanley, Pearce (MID) $516,200

    Hibberd, Michael $517,300Grimes, Jack (MID) $436,500

    Suckling, Matt $312,200McDonald, Luke (MID) $182,300

    Georgiou, Alexis $102,400Byrne, Ciaran $102,400

    Ablett, Gary $695,000Montagna, Leigh $619,000

    Rockliff, Tom $591,500Selwood, Scott $559,800

    Beams, Dayne $497,200Thomas, Dale $341,800

    Martin, Jack $222,300Ellis, Xavier $159,100

    Perris, Lloyd $102,400Bates, Zac $102,400

    Mumford, Shane $496,000Sandilands, Aaron $310,700

    Apeness, Michael (FWD) $137,300King, Max $102,400

    Wingard, Chad (MID) $531,800Kennedy, Josh J. $485,200

    Parker, Luke (MID) $468,800Caddy, Josh (MID) $325,300

    Nahas, Robbie $212,200Honeychurch, Mitch (MID) $117,300

    Ambrose, Patrick $102,400Brown, Ben (RUC) $117,300

    Would love some thoughts, some changes maybe.

    Also 11,000 team 2 2,500 team 1 so not much money left.

    • Dools says:

      Fully endorse team 2 matefor the Def Mids and Fwds
      But seriously nothing wrong with Team 1 either…Fully appriciate the Mids combined with the backline and the forwords So Team 1 by a bee’s dick maybe with the stucture.

    • Farnzy says:

      Both teams look pretty solid, I agree with Dools team 1 just due to the better forwards. BTW Joey is out round 1 so you may want to replace him with a Watson or Danger type. Love the Savage pick, shouldn't get vested at the Saints and has the potential to score very well!

  98. Dools says:

    Just read a report on Tom Libretore Damnnnn He is SC Gold Now whom to cull???? I wave the stick of death, HMMM Gaff? Seriousley naw he should be safe…For now….Could be Daisy.

    Daisy until you show me !!!Libbas is in.

    • throttlefinger says:

      What report, Dools?!? Do tell. I've thought he was a little too high priced. What changed your mind. Damn your keyboard…make it talk!!!!

  99. Rhino says:

    Thoughts on who the better choice is

    Henderson from the mighty crows or

    Grimes from dees

  100. Rhino says:

    Thoughts on who the better choice is

    Henderson from the mighty crows or

    Grimes from dees

    Would appreciate some thought

    • Rhino says:

      *same thoughts

    • throttlefinger says:

      Hey Rhino. Tough one. Looking at their 2013 numbers there are a lot of similarities. Neither is exceptional dependable (Standard Devis JG=30, RH=34) or durable (JG 15 games, RH 14 games). Can burn with a very low score (JG=13, RH=16). On the plus, both have good disposals for Defs: (JG = 18.3/g, RH=19.3/g). Biggest difference is that Grimey likes to tackle more (4.2/g v. 1.9/g) and use his hands more (8.3 v. 5.9/game). But Ricky likes to kick (13/g v 10/g) more and has gone ton more (5x v 3x) for bigger scores (160 high v. 122 high).

      So I'm not sure. Would say that Rickey is the more promising pick between the two. Not completely sure if worth $24K more.

    • Farnzy says:

      Wait and see what roles they play in the NAB, if moved back to halfback I'd probably choose Grimes from the mighty Dees. ;)

    • I reckon Ricky is an absolute lock for me if he is playing the same role of the defence as last year. I looked ver footywire and the scores he produced on games where he was mentioned playing in defence are as follows. 114,83,72(first game back),101*,85*,106*,160*!! (vs geelong!),110* (tagged by de'boer!) then 82,94 when he was rested for the rest of the season.
      *Played solely is defence according to footywire.

      "Henderson should be the only forced change," said Sanderson who this evening will name a 25-man squad. "He has been battling a knee injury for a couple of weeks. He has played through it okay, but he now needs a week off." – prehaps a reason in his dropped loutput in the last two games.

      Games he played just forward are 63,53, and 55(i think).

      and a sub effected game of 16.

      Summary – looked really good off the half back which is where you would expect to see him next year. Avergaed 105.4 from the last 7 games when playing off the defence (only a couple times as a loose man) despite battling a knee injury in the last couple games.
      When he was tagged by de boar he still scored very well despite never copping attention before .
      Disadvantages include his knee surgery he had as he is slightly injury prone and that he could be sometimes used a s a forward where history has shown us he cant score as well.

  101. 1st Selection Drama says:

    Def: S Mitchell, P Hanley, Suckling, J Watts, K Kolodjashnij, M Scharenberg, (L McDonald, M Fuller(
    Mid: S Pendlebury, M Barlow, N Fyfe, M Murphy, D Beams, S Wellingham, D Thomas, J Martin, (A Morabito, J O'Rourke)
    Ruck: A Sandilands, H McIntosh (R Lobb, T Nankervis)
    Fwd: P Dangerfield, D Martin, C WIngard, J Hogan, B Lennon, D Garlett, (J Kennedy-Harris, L Taylor)
    $156,400 in the kitty

  102. Benni Jarmin says:

    Hey Community,

    Please have a gander at my team version 502,467.3 and let me know your thoughts. Feel i am getting close, but my eyes may be deceeving me

    DEF:

    H Pearce

    G Birchall

    R Henderson

    M Suckling

    K Kolodjashnij

    L McDonald

    T Cutler

    M Fuller

    MIDS

    S Pendlebury

    T Cotchin

    S Selwood

    M Murphy

    D Beams

    L Shuey

    J Martin

    C Beams

    A Morabito

    J O’Rourke

    RUCK

    Nic Nat

    H McIntosh

    T Nankervis

    M Apeness

    FWD

    P Dangerfield

    C Dixon

    L Franklin

    D Zorko

    S Kersten

    L Taylor

    M Honeychurch

    D Garlett

    All replies would be appreciated

    • Farnzy says:

      I'm guessing H. Pearce is P. Hanley……….At a quick glance that team looks very good. Midfield is one of the strongest I've seen at this stage! But if I was to be picky the backs potentially are v.good but IMO Hanley and Birch are prime tag targets and Hendo isn't a proven premium. Rucks may be lacking a solid R3 but nobody knows at this stage, fingers crossed Hmack plays all year and scores well. Forwards are good providing your F5 to F8 get solid game time let alone get games at all early on. Mids are awesome! I'd be inclined to maybe downgrade one of your premo's to strengthen or add depth to other areas but that's just me. Otherwise good side, well done!

  103. Max says:

    With Van Berlo out… Could Riley Knight, Cameron Ellis-Yoleman and M.Crouch come into the picture for the crows?

  104. duck says:

    DEF: McVeigh, Hanley, D Swallow, Suckling, K Kolodjashnij, M Fuller (L McDonald, Laidler)
    MID: Pendlebury, Liberatore, Cotchin, Murphy, D Beams, Morabito, J Martin, C Beams (Garlett, Dunstan)
    RUC: Sandilands, Grundy (Nankervis, Apeness)
    FWD: Dangerfield, D Martin, Wingard, Zorko, Caddy, Taylor (Mcbean, Honeychurch)
    $155,400 left over.

    Thoughts on structure? I usually leave a large amount of leftover cash so it gives me some more freedom to upgrade later on, but I'm not too keen on my defence and ruck lines, so I'm not sure whether to use that 155K to turn Swallow into a Mitchell, or Sandilands into a Lobbe.

    Would love any kind of feedback!

  105. Rhubarb says:

    Hi Community

    Any input into my side would be appreciated.

    Bye Rounds Split is 7 / 10 / 13 with the majority of my Rookie priced players (8) being off in Rnd 10 and hopefully at least 3-4 will be ripe for upgrades by Rnds 9 & 10. Very much relying upon a number of players stepping up at new clubs or returning from injury – Docherty, Murphy, Beams (x2), Michie, Tyson, Franklin, Karnezis, Clark.

    Defence is very thin but I'm hoping Rucks are set and forget for the year.

    $14.6k left in the bank.

    DEFENDERS
    McVeigh, Jarrad; Hanley, Pearce; Birchall, Grant; Kolodjashnij, Kade; McDonald, Luke; Docherty, Sam;
    (Langdon, Tom; Fuller, Matthew)
    MIDFIELDERS
    Pendlebury, Scott; Watson, Jobe; Priddis, Matt; Murphy, Marc; Beams, Dayne; Michie, Viv; Tyson, Dom; Beams, Claye; (Dunstan, Luke; Honeychurch, Mitch)
    RUCKS
    Minson, Will; Leuenberger, Matthew; (Apeness, Michael; Nankervis, Toby)
    FORWARDS
    Dangerfield, Patrick; Wingard, Chad; Franklin, Lance; Karnezis, Patrick; Clark, Mitch; Garlett, Dayle; (Taylor, Lewis; Impey, Jarman)

    • TheBIGShot says:

      nice team. I love the rucks. Both can churn out bgi scores regularly.
      Dont mind the chance your taking on Docherty up back but a huge risk for me Mitch Clarke (injury return gotta be a worry for this guy) and Karnezis who was burnman in 2013 but he showed a great NAB last year.
      Impey might not get a go early in season maybe consider Thurlow, Fraser (FWD) $118,400 Ess now Bellchambers is out for 4 weeks.

      • Sven says:

        Carls Barkley!

        For a first time team I do like, ur rucks r very weak! Don’t trade out danger tho!!!!!!!!!! Ever! Under any circumstances!!

        Now that we sorted that maybe downgrade dusty and Harry Taylor for the likes of pav, atley

        Leaves enough to upgrade one too a premium ruck think your fine with one ruck to be upgraded during season

        U go girly

  106. Goonar says:

    Residents of the flapping tarp,

    Have been tinkering with the team, but like a few others here I did it when there might've been too much blood in my alcohol, but I digress, any advise would be of help (Help me Obi Wan Kenobi, you're our only hope)

    Hibberd, Enright, Birchall, Suckling, Howard, Kolodojashij (Fuller/Cutler)

    Pendlebury, Cotchin, Murphy, Beams D, Shuey, Ellis, Tyson, Dunstan (Morabito/Taylor L)

    Leuenberger, Mumford (Currie/Nankervis)

    Dangerfield, Franklin, Parker, Caddy, Rohan, Lennon (Garlett/Honeychurch)

    • TheBIGShot says:

      I really like this team plenty of POD especially in the mids. Ellis is the richmond one not X Ellis? If so amazing ballsy move. If not I'm not into X prefer others IMHO.

      My only thought is upgrade one of the backs to an elite if you have the dough, as none of them will top the 100 much where as Mitchel and Bartel will.

  107. 1st Selection Drama says:

    Can someone please provide some thoughts on my team at present:

    Def: S Mitchell, P Hanley, Suckling, J Watts, K Kolodjashnij, M Scharenberg, (L McDonald, M Fuller(
    Mid: S Pendlebury, M Barlow, N Fyfe, M Murphy, D Beams, S Wellingham, D Thomas, J Martin, (A Morabito, J O'Rourke)
    Ruck: A Sandilands, H McIntosh (R Lobb, T Nankervis)
    Fwd: P Dangerfield, D Martin, C WIngard, J Hogan, B Lennon, D Garlett, (J Kennedy-Harris, L Taylor)
    $156,400 in the kitty

    • ShinbonerSpirit says:

      I feel Clarkson will take the cautious route with Garlett. McIntosh and Sandi are the most injury prone ruckmen in the league, Scharenberg will struggle for game time (try Fuller on the field) and Watts… I'm not sure what to say about him anymore. Other than that, I like the team.

      • @taylorwoof says:

        I agree with Shinboner there. Though in saying that, i've currently got Hmac/Sandi as my ruck combo. Hopefully they stay sound long enough to upgrade (until the bye period would be nice).

        I believe Watts has the natural ability to become a very good AFL player. But personally, i couldn't put him in my side until he plays consistent footy. I would use the extra coin you have, and upgrade him to a J.McVeigh/Bartel/Walker type PREM.

        Otherwise, i like your side. Tidy midfield. Like the Barlow selection. Wellingham is a POD (wce soft draw).

        Fwd line, i'd start L.Taylor over Gartlett. Though all rookies are speculative at the moment, until NAB series kicks off.

  108. Max says:

    Big bell chambers is out for a month… Considering he will miss a month of pre-season could ge be worked back into the side, giving Fraser Thurlow (Ruc/fwd) maybe 5/6 rounds?

  109. Robbie says:

    Whats a better choice Dale Thomas and Mitch Honeychurch
    or Dom Tyson and Clayne Beams and 61K??

    • TheBIGShot says:

      change something else and take Claye and Dale IMHO both will be certs to get game time and will increase plenty in value.

  110. meanieoh says:

    Potential 'Wookie' side

    DEF: Bartel, Fisher, Suckling, R.Shaw, K.Kolodjashnij, L.McDonald (Laidler, Fuller)
    MID: Pendlebury, Murphy, D.Beams, Gaff, Carrazzo, D.Thomas, Savage, Michie (Morabito, O'Rourke)
    RUC: Lobbe, Jacobs (Apeness, Nankervis)
    FWD: Dixon, Franklin, Chapman, Zorko, Crameri, Mayes (Taylor, Garlett)

    $134K

  111. SCMania says:

    Morabito vs O'Rourke?

  112. Coachinator (maybe) says:

    DEFENDERS
    1. McVeigh, J $572,500
    2. Mitchell, S $562,000
    3. Hibberd, M $517,300
    4. Hanley, P $516,200
    5. Kolodjashnij, K $197,300
    6. McDonald, L $182,300
    23. Cutler, T $117,300
    24. Fuller, M $117,300
    MIDFEILD
    7. Ablett, G $695,000
    8. Pendlebury, S $683,100
    9. Selwood, J $638,700
    10. Watson, J $601,300
    11. Martin, J $222,300
    12. Beams, C $183,400
    13. Michie, V $172,600
    14. Morabito, A $123,900
    25. Taylor, L $117,300
    26. Garlett, D $117,300
    RUCKS
    15. Lobbe, M $464,400
    16. Longer, B $279,100
    27. Apeness, M $137,300
    28. Nankervis, T $117,300
    FORWARDS
    17. Dangerfield, P $609,000
    18. Martin, D $549,200
    19. Wingard, C $531,800
    20. Clark, M $249,200
    21. Lamb, J $244,500
    22. Hogan, J $217,300
    29. Markworth, D $123,900
    30. Honeychurch, M $117,300
    My attempt at a guns/rookies. 22k not sure on Apeness might look for cheaper R3 but given Sandis feet and other ruck issues, also 2nd big forward at freeo……..maybe. Tried to go for cheap ass bench cover. 11 Permos and Solo R1 Lobbe, only issue is I've back ennded round 10 a bit but hopefully move some on by then……
    Thought welcome thanks gang =)

    • throttlefinger says:

      This is a very tight structure, Coachinator. Like a lot. Apeness is a sound backup due to Sandi's history of injury and Clarke being hurt. Rooks you'll have to see which impresses, of course. Your POD is really in the rucks. Longer may be risky. I like Lobbe but may be leaving yourself dependent on him. Consider Dixon in FWD as a backup. May not need, though. Just a thought. Rawk!

  113. SCMania says:

    Bock vs Rohan?

    • Coachinator (maybe) says:

      Yeah having same issue. Both are 'wookies' Rohan on price maybe & Bock on scoring abilty history
      ………helpful? *shrug*

  114. SCMania says:

    How much will Pyke approximately average do you think? Thanks.

  115. SCMania says:

    New team once again!

    DEF: S. Mitchell J. Bartel J. McVeigh M. Suckling K. Koladjashnij L. McDonald ( M. Fuller J. Laidler )

    MID: S. Pendlebury J. Selwood D. Beams T. Cotchin M. Murphy J. Martin D. Tyson J. Aish ( L. Dunstan D. Garlett )

    RUC: M. Lobbe B. Grundy ( M. Apeness T. Nankervis )

    FWD: P. Dangerfield D. Martin D. Zorko J. Lamb G. Rohan N. Bock ( S. Kersten L. Taylor )

    I want to chuck in these players at some stage who just missed out: J. Hogan, B. Lennon, C. Wingard, R. Lobb, I. Maric, M. Pyke, S. Mumford, G. Ablett, J. O'Rouke, A. Morabito, X. Ellis, J. Polec, V. Michie, C. Beams and T. Cutler. Big list ay! There the one I'm tricked with at the moment, feedback is very much appreciated! Thanks.

  116. PirateMillions says:

    He is my picks so far. $176,900 still in the bank.

    Defense
    J bartell, J Mc Viegh, P hanley, M suckling, s doherty, Sam shaw ( j laidler, M fuller)
    Mids
    S pendleburry, S mitchell, M Murphy, D beams, C Sylvia, D thomas. C beams, V michie, (Luke dunstan, A morabito)
    Rucks
    H mcintosh, B grundy ( M Apeness, T Nankervis)
    Forwards
    P dangerfield, Dustin Martin, L franklin, Taylor walker, D markworth, lewis taylor, (Dayle garlett, M honey church).
    Question is have i gone to hard on the roookies. Aslo i have taking a punt on few injured players coming back. And i have had a punt on Colin Sylvia moving to FREO. Is this too risky? i want nic nat in my ruc but got bunrt last year piad top dollar only to have injured for such a long period so i need to see him play first hoping the interim rucks suffice while i wait for cash cows to mature.

    Would approciate some feedback. Cheers.

    • SCMania says:

      Nice different team mate, not too sure about Shaw and Sylvia though?

      • TheBIGShot says:

        Nothing wrong with money in the bank but too much can leave you right off the $50k pace if thats what youre after.
        Yeah Shaw has had modified preseason and hasn't come up as well as liked I heard, sad because I really rate him.
        No nic nat early for me due to anticipated slow beginning to season too, but you've really gone risky with 2 low mid pricers in ruck though plenty are going that way this year.
        I also prefer mitchell out of the mids. Look for a better option even though he is DPP option for swing. But hey that's just IMO.

  117. Dools says:

    G’day community

    McBean update – Ruc Fwd – Set to return to main playing gp Re- hab complete – Could be given a go in NAB Cup.

    Daisey update – Has been spotted doing Sprints and joined in with running sessions. (Ankle injury may be a thing of the past)

    Ding Dong (Bellchambers)- Moon boot and no weight bearing (Ankle Injury) this has me worried as Moon Boot means significant injury

    I had to get beer so I braved the 44 C temps and bought the Herald Sun.

    Beer is tepid not happy Jan! 6 pack in freezer and by the time this is done I’ll crack one open and ponder more on Dixson in my Fwd Line up

  118. SCMania says:

    How much do you think B. Grundy will approximately average? Thanks.

    • Rhino says:

      Last year averaged just under 75. I reckon at best 80. He could face the second year blues as well and average worst than last year but he may prove me wrong.

      • Max says:

        I agree but I'm going to say 80-85… He will dominate a few teams and score 120s but 50/60s will come asweell

    • TheBIGShot says:

      As no1 ruck man and the potential shown last year he will give a huge lift to a premium by byes or mid year. Cant seeing him being a 90+ player to make him a keeper. So well worth a pick.

  119. NT James the Pom says:

    Another G'day community, thanks for your thoughts Jock and ShinbonerSpirit, gone to Version point ???

    Been reading up on the availability of the rookies playing in R1, re-assembled the team and checked the down size of $ from the guns last year who had injury,s etc, there are some great bargin's to be had and if they perform well then cash should be coming though on all fronts. The team is more or less established depending on the NAB. Take a look and give us a reply, got $240k left in the kitty

    DEF
    McVeigh, Jarrad (MID)
    Hanley, Pearce (MID)
    Lumumba, Heritier (MID)
    Grimes, Jack (MID)
    Suckling, Matt
    McDonald, Luke (MID)
    Fuller, Matthew
    Cutler, Tom

    MID
    Watson, Jobe
    Cotchin, Trent
    Mitchell, Sam (DEF)
    Murphy, Marc
    Beams, Dayne
    Thomas, Dale
    Polec, Jared
    Dunstan, Luke
    Langdon, Tom (DEF)
    Honeychurch, Mitch (FWD)

    RUCKS
    Naitanui, Nic
    Sandilands, Aaron
    Lobb, Rory
    Nankervis, Toby

    FORWARDS
    Dangerfield, Patrick (MID)
    Franklin, Lance
    Zorko, Dayne (MID)
    Walker, Taylor
    McCarthy, Cameron
    Kersten, Shane
    Taylor, Lewis (MID)
    Garlett, Dayle (MID)

    Great team making commuinity

    • SCMania says:

      Nice different team mate, love it! Great DPP swings.

    • Dools says:

      Hi Mate,
      A Fit and firing Dog dog at 515k odd is a steal…Unfortunatley he is not fit or firing to get up and play AFL…yet.
      Could be a very good upgrade by round 4 or 5…replace with either Mummy/Lobbe/Luenberger. Fwd line relies way to much on maybes from F4 down but great backline JOP with Mitchell in mids Nice!

    • TheBIGShot says:

      Im funny on the money in the bank idea. I cant see the value of Money or 220K in the bank when you can upgrade a fair player to an elite but thats just me. 100k max I reckon. There are those who aim only for leagues that it can make some sense.
      Otherwise my only other concern is that watson is a great player but no week to week captain. Upgrade a mid to pendles or GAJ.

  120. Frank the Tank says:

    Here's my 1st attempt, would love some feedback
    DEF'S; J McVeigh, S Mitchell, R Henderson, J Grimes, K Kolodjashnij, L McDonald (T Cutler, M Fuller)
    MID'S; S Pendlebury, R Griffen, K Jack, M Murphy, D Beams, D Thomas, V Michie, A Morabito (L Dunstan, D Garlett)
    RUC'S; S Mumford, H McIntosh (T Nankervis, B Brown)
    FWD'S; P Dangerfield, D Martin, C Wingard, J Lamb, G Rohan, B Lennon (L Taylor, M Honeychurch)

  121. ShinbonerSpirit says:

    Hickey or Longer?

  122. DEF: J.Mcveigh S.Mitchell P.Hanley M.Suckling K.Kolodjashnij J.Laidler (T.Cutler, M.Fuller)

    MID: S.Pendlebury, T.Cotchin, K.Jack, N.Fyfe, D.Beams, D.Thomas, J.Martin, J.Aish (A.Morabito, D.Garlett)

    RUC: A.Sandilands, B.Grundy (T.Nankervis, M.King)

    FWD: P.Dangerfield, D.Martin, C.Wingard, M.Clark, J.Billings, N.Bock (S.Kersten, L.Taylor)

    $56,500 to spare

  123. Hugh G says:

    Bastinac, Cunnington or Ziebell??

    • Rhino says:

      Geez mate, tough question. I think one will breakout but which one? I personally like Ziebell as he has proved he get good scores and if fit for rd 1 will be considered by many

    • TheBIGShot says:

      I really think the Big Z is the one who can go a little further that the other two, especially now NDS has joined the mids at north. I think the selection of any player at the roos beside Harvey will be a POD.

  124. @taylorwoof says:

    DEF: McVeigh, Bartel, Mitchell, Hanley, Suckling, Laidler (M.Fuller & T.Cutler)

    MID: Ablett, Griffen, Barlow, D.Beams, M.Murphy, J.Martin, Tyson, C.Beams (L.Dunston & Morabito)

    RUCK: Sandilands, McIntosh (D.Currie & T.Nankervis)

    FWD: Dangerfield, D.Martin, L.Franklin, J.Hogan, G.Rohan, L.Taylor (M.Honeychurch & D.Gartlett)

    Remaining Salary: 1.7K

    • Max says:

      One worry is rucks… If one of the two starters get injured you'll have to make a few trades… Spent a lot on your defenders which is interesting but it's very strong. cracking mid and fwd though!

      • @taylorwoof says:

        Cheers for the feedback Max. Crossing everything Sandi & Hmac can stay injury free until the bye rounds, then i can upgrade them. Definitely risky no doubt….can't warm to many of the ruckmen. Who do you like in the rucking department?

        Over the past few days, decided to add the extra PREM in defence (J.Bartel) rather than the forward line…….thought at the moment i prefer the fwd rookies over the defender rookies. But that could easily change once we get our teeth into the NAB series.

  125. @maxwills13 says:

    J.Stringer or T.Menzel?

    • TheBIGShot says:

      Gee Stringer looked good in 2013 didn't he? The doggies look like they are on the way up too. Him for mine.

  126. jimbotraralgon says:

    hey guys.

    I have my main side I have been working on but I have been working on a side project that is more of a full 'midprice madness' approach. I haven't been taking it very seriously up to now but I'm getting a little interested in the trousers with it now.

    What do you think? Is it worth considering as the primary team seeing as though getting the right break outs will be key. All or nothing?

    (NB. Lennon's in there for you throttle mate)

    Plan B/
    Def: S.Mitchell P.Hanley D.Swallow M.Suckling K.Kolodjashnij L.McDonald ( J.Laidler M.Fuller )
    Mid: S.Pendlebury T.Cotchin M.Murphy D.Beams B.Ellis D.Thomas J.Martin C.Beams ( A.Morabito J.O'Rourke )
    Ruc: M.Lobbe B.Grundy ( B.Longer T.Nankervis )
    Fwd: P.Dangerfield C.Dixon L.Franklin T.Mitchell B.Lennon S.Kersten ( D.Garlett L.Taylor )
    Salary Cap Remaining: $40,900

    • jimbotraralgon says:

      Just doesn't look as good as Plan A/?
      Def: J.McVeigh S.Mitchell D.Swallow M.Suckling K.Kolodjashnij L.McDonald ( T.Langdon M.Fuller )
      Mid: G.Ablett S.Pendlebury M.Murphy D.Beams D.Thomas J.Martin C.Beams J.Polec ( J.Aish J.O'Rourke )
      Ruc: N.Naitanui A.Sandilands ( B.Longer P.Mitchell )
      Fwd: P.Dangerfield D.Martin L.Franklin L.Parker J.Hogan S.Kersten ( D.Garlett L.Taylor )
      Salary Cap Remaining: $3,300

      • Dools says:

        Hi Jimbo
        Just my thoughts at this stage Pre pre seasonn KK Not seen enough from him mate (TAC waas Bueatiful but Naw at this time)
        Both team A and B have very strong merits in the midsand the forwards
        Rucs are my teams delima this year
        I think team A mate even with Kirsten (I highly rate him but my concern is will he break into Geelong’s thoughts IE Tall Tall or Tall small, and small? enter Cowen/and the rest of the fast kittens) or as I suspect Jimmy Bartel
        Anywho that’s my 2 cents mate

        • jimbotraralgon says:

          every team talk up their fringe players preseason but story is kersten could be the 3rd tall option…aka gunston for hawks (credit throttlefinger I think). Saves them having to push harry forward. Kersten might compete with a Christensen or the like depending on how they want to structure up.

          • Dools says:

            Hi Matew love the logic ,,I can’t fault it but until futher proof ie NAB I need to be convinced…And I’m a Geelong supporter (Sorry LOL)

            • jimbotraralgon says:

              Well its all hot air at this stage of the year. But isn't that what we love? In some ways I like preseason more than actual season. Don't we enjoy the what might happen? The analysis of the possible?

          • Dools says:

            Hi Jimbo,
            You have gone off in to Peter’s world “The analysis of the possible? ”
            Love it mate! ..Esp after watching Engerand loose yet again in the cricket…Good on ya ‘stralia (I would watch a marbles contest with any team in the world …As long as they beat Engerland) Now how would have thought that? ‘ LOL mate

      • throttlefinger says:

        This is good too. Would say is stronger but not significantly. Definitely have more POD opportunities in B. NicNat is definitely a wait and see. Reading a lot that he's not training at the level they had hoped. Probably won't get a lot of NAB time and may start slow. Maybe by time he starts regaining form, Grundy/Sandi's value will have jumped for a seamless upgrade.

        Two nice teams that I'd keep refining against, Jimbo.

        • jimbotraralgon says:

          i am keeping hmac in the r2 mix as well. The successful candidate will need to put some game time in to make the final squad.

          The Dixon fwd swing is growing in my mind as backup thanks to dools and yourself for the idea. Just wish it wouldnt cost me titch or Parker to do so. Or dusty even.

    • throttlefinger says:

      Ahhhh, Lennon! And nice to see you stuck to form with Kersten.

      This is intriguing team because you have some mid pricers that could really take off (Ellis, Thomas, Lobbe and Grundy especially) and a nice amount of loot to play with. Like Dools said, the risk is at ruck. I'm struggling between going all out on Minson (with Sandi at R2) or do McEvoy/Mummy and save some loot. That said, I think Lobbe/Grundy is a risk but not a great one. Mainly because the potential for big scores are there as single rucks.

      Just read Boybo's bit below about Morobito not playing R1. He'll get time so may be worth keeping in.

      Keeping two structures too. Don't throw this out, Jimbo.

      • jimbotraralgon says:

        they will combine together eventually but two structures makes me think a little differently in the second side. Bit of lateral thinking you could say.

        I would love morobito but I think I'll wind up sitting aish at m9 leading into nab games just for the cash reserve.

        Logic says stay away from lobbe but I just have a feeling he could be this years minson or Maric the year before. Mark my words people.

    • TheBIGShot says:

      really like it Jimbo!
      Ellis is on the up for sure great choice.
      I'd prefer the Longer/Grundy mix to be Jacobs! But hey it seems that's just me. :)

  127. rhino says:

    Hey community, just wondering who you would choose out of rockliff, jack and Barlow, thoughts would be appreciated.

  128. Sarah says:

    Been working on this team for a couple of weeks now… would love to get some feedback…

    Def: Bartel, Mitchell, Hanley, Hurn, L McDonald, T Clurey, (Fuller, Battersby)

    Mid: Pendlebury, Barlow, Rockliff, Jack, Beams, J Martin, L Dunstan, B Acres, (Morabito, Garlett)

    Ruck: Grundy, Sandilands (Currie, Nankervis)

    Fwd: Dangerfield, Wingard, T Mitchell, Gunston, Hogan, Lennon (L Taylor, Honeychurch)

    • throttlefinger says:

      Very solid structure, Sarah. Concerns would be Hurn, who burned me a bit last year BUT given WCE favorable start, he could give you good scores off the bat. Birchall is a safer bet, IMO. MIDs look strong. Rucks you're obviously taking a little of a chance. I've consider this combo too. Not a bad thing but you're losing insurance by not having a proven 15+ game player in there. FWDs are tight. Like the Gunston call. Ended last year strong. May get more attention with Buddy out, but love the call. Clurey and Acres, do you have any insight on them? Would have backups ready if they don't get the R1 call.

      • Sarah says:

        Thanks for your comments.
        Not so much insight on Clurey and Acres, it'll depend on the round 1 teams but Clurey has been on the list over a year now and should be close to a debut. As for Acres, I reckon the saints will give a few rookies a game and he was rated in the draft. All rookies are subject to change IMO.
        I had been thinking of Birchall too, but am hoping if Hurn can recapture his good form, he's underpriced for what he can produce. As for Gunston, he always seemed to play/score better when Buddy was out anyway and I liked his form in the finals. Still very disappointed he chose to leave the crows…

    • Dools says:

      Hi Sarah
      Adelaide supporter?
      The only thing I ‘m not sold on is the Ruc Dept.. I like the rest of team inc Hurn but he is still not playing with the big boys (Rehab) I had him last year from the start Solid for me but methinks now maybe to old and broken alas but remembering how he played SC wise, maybe inspired…

      • Sarah says:

        What makes you say Adelaide supporter?
        I am as it turns out! Just curious as to what gave it away!!
        Hurn is a 'see how he goes in the NAB comp' proposition, so I'll be watching him closely.
        Thanks for your comments.

  129. Boydo says:

    Lyons declared that Morabito won’t be playing round 1 already.

    • Boydo says:

      Lyon confessed that only three Dockers – Kepler Bradley, Jon Griffin and injury ravaged young midfield hopeful Anthony Morabito, who are all in full knee reconstruction programs – are unlikely to play in the season opener. “Fom foxsports”.

    • throttlefinger says:

      Ugh! Better to know now than R1 selections.

  130. @maxwills13 says:

    Second go, had a look into T.Walker and saw he wouldn't line up round 1! Cheers to Hugh and ShinbonerSpirit for giving me the heads up!

    So version 2

    Def: McVeigh, S.Mitchell, Hanley, Suckling, Darley, L.McDonald (Laidler, Fuller)
    Mid: Pendlebury, J.Selwood, Dangerfield, Beams, Shuey, J.Martin, Michie, Dunstan (Morabito, Honeychurch)
    Ruc: Mumford, Sandilands (Thurlow, Nankervis)
    Fwd: D.Martin, Franklin, Dixon, Hawkins, Lamb, Kersten (D.Garlett, L.Taylor)
    $77,700

    I have a ruck swing for sandi if he gets injured… Then if I have employed the swing and I only have 5/6 fwds playing or mid rookies have better output I can swing Honeychurch but more likely danger in the fwd line…
    Does this seem alright?

    • Boydo says:

      Will need to change Morabito but you have enough coin for a Polec,Beams,Ellis depending on NAB form and round 1 selection. To be honest I’m looking forward to see how Dom Tyson goes. GWS just didn’t give him enough game time. Checkout his 2012 scoring. I think everyone should get on.

      • @maxwills13 says:

        Yeah I changed him to Polec… I'd rather Tyson I agree but I can't get him in unfortunately!

        Cheers

        • Boydo says:

          I like your team. Some real solid picks. Darley, I’m not sold on . Do you really need swingmen (dangerfield in mids) at the start of the season with new trade system. Plenty of good mid rookies compared to fwd rookies.

  131. Rhino says:

    Can I ask for some predicted averages for longer, will he average 65? 70? 75? 80?

  132. Boydo says:

    Tell me, am I crazy having Broadbent at D4? Don’t have money for Hanley etc. a lot of teams have swallow but I like Broadbent better. Have Suckling at D6. Kk and fuller emg. Ok gunna get caned I’m sure but if so at least tell me who I should have instead!!

  133. rhino says:

    Another question for the community,

    Beams from lions

    Poles from power

    Michie from demons

    Which one you pick? As always thoughts appreciated.

    • rhino says:

      *Poles from power

    • throttlefinger says:

      Great question. And the only answer I'd be comfortable giving is see how each does in preseason play. Think Beams has most upside. Been reading a lot of good things about Polec. Not sure about Mitchie. See how he works with the Dees midfield.

  134. Dools says:

    Hahahah Go with ….I gotta say Beams mate. However ‘Poles’ is at this point also a BIG Watch mate watch

  135. Rhino says:

    Is Lennon from tigers better or worse choice for nahas

    • throttlefinger says:

      I always liked Nahas. Solid goal sneak who didn't seem to get a fair shake from Punt Rd. I would say see what he does in NAB. Think he'll make it in the Roos lineup but not off the bat. I've been beating the drum for Lennon so he would be who I'd go with.

    • TheBIGShot says:

      A big no to Nahas. NO < see it's big. Doubt he will even get non vest time but I could be wrong.

  136. Dools says:

    Lennon, Rhino
    Robbie has moved on and needs to show somthing whereas Lennon is prepared to show something

  137. Rhino says:

    Hey Dools, just wondering what you see in schofield, hasn’t shown much in past seasons.

    • Dools says:

      Hi Rhino,
      Read a blurb about him in a West Austrailian paper B4 Christmas
      I beleive WCE plan to use him heavily in Mid section and he was compared to Pearce Hanley (My prediction last year so maybe Schofield at only 330K in the right age bracket and seasons under his belt is my Contender this year

  138. Jason says:

    Hi there community feedback would be nice.
    DEF: S.Mitchell, M.Hibberd, T.Mckenzie, D.Swallow, M.Suckling, K.Kolodjashnij
    BENCH: T.Cutler, M.Fuller

    MID: S.Pendles, J.Watson, M.Barlow, K.Jack, D.Beams, D.Thomas, J.Martin, C.Beams
    BENCH: L.Dunstan, A.Morabito

    RUCKS: H.Macintosh, A.Sandlands.
    BENCH: B.Brown, T.Nankervis

    FWD: P.Dangerfeild, D.Martin, C.Mayen, J.Hogan, N.Bock, D.Garlett
    BENCH: M.Honeychurch, L.Taylor

    Happy with my team there is some weakness in my rucks but looking to upgrade them by round five just a good starting block if both stay fit early.

    • TheBIGShot says:

      Jason I believe T Mc in the back has injury issues so leave him out and bring in a good rookie/wookie and upgrade someone in your fwd line, likely upgrade Hogan to a mid price for better team balance. :)

  139. @rjc69 says:

    Def: J.McVeigh, S.Mitchell, T.McKenzie ,P.Seedsman, M.Suckling, K.Kolodjashnij (M.Fuller, J.Hunt)

    Mid: S.Pendlebury, M.Barlow, S.Selwood, M.Murphy, D.Beams, V.Michie, J.Polec, D.Sheed (L.McDonald, L.Taylor)

    Ruc: S.Mumford, A.Sandilands (D.Currie, T.Nankervis)

    Fwd: P.Dangerfield, N.Riewoldt, L.Franklin, M.Clark, J.Lamb, S.Kersten (M.Honeychurch, D.Garlett)

    Tried to go Guns & Rookies but ended up with & prem. 8 mid & 15 rookies.

    Still undecided about a few, McKenzie, Seedman & Hunt in backs Michie in mids & Clark & Lamb in fwds. Otherwise happy with team so far, Preseason will tell me. Any comments

    • Jason says:

      Mitch Clarke is still not training with main group as another melbourne supporter maybe look at hogan early on
      Seedsman is very up and down with scores.
      Like mids besides polec and she'd maybe look at C.Beams as another

      • @rjc69 says:

        Good thought I might swap Clark for Hogan once i see him playing NAB. could be good insurance in fwds.The likes of Polec will also wait for preseason, that could change team drastically.

  140. Wombats says:

    I notice that Suckling features in most teams being posted in show us your team. From memory players returning from Knee Reco's tend to be very quiet for the first 5 or 6 games AND, Suckling has to break into a premiership winning backline.
    Jock, Higgo is the master of relevant stats and I think that the ave scores for the first 6 games after a knee job compared to ave scores pre-knee job could help prevent some costly SC mistakes. Can ya give us some insight?

    • @taylorwoof says:

      Interesting question Wombat. Thought i'd have a look into it. Below are a few players i could reel off the top of my head having serious knee injuries.

      2007 2008
      Goddard100.7085.50

      20102011
      Malceski113.5082.50

      20102012
      L.Hayes 91.33108.33

      20122013
      Whitecross87.0056.16(2013 Ave included 1 x green vest)

      20112013
      Luke Ball96.1693.33

      • @taylorwoof says:

        That previous post didn't post like i was viewing it. I'll go again.

        Goddard: 2007: 100.7 / 2008: 85.5

        Malceski: 2010: 113.5 / 2011: 82.5

        Lenny Hayes: 2010: 91.33 / 2012: 108.33

        Whitecross: 2012: 87.0 / 2013: 56.16 (2013 Ave Included 1 x Green Vest)

        Luke Ball: 2011: 96.16 / 2013: 93.33

        • @taylorwoof says:

          * First six games of the season before & after serious knee injury.

          • Wombats says:

            Thanks Wolfie that info was enough for me to make the right decision.
            After your data the question then became does Suckling have the mental strength of Lenny Hayes & Luke Ball or is he more like a Whitecross or Malceski?
            I think Hayes & Ball are absolute freaks and Suckling is not cut of the same cloth so, I'll not be considering him for my starting 22.

        • throttlefinger says:

          REALLY great question Wombat. And equally revealing numbers, Taylorwoof.

          Feel he needs the same inspection during NAB as the others we aren't sure on $400K and below. You've planted a seed that if he looks decent but not going with confidence given his knee (which is common…takes time to rebound mentally from a severe injury), may wait a couple rounds to bring in. Mayb off the bat is too hasty.

          • @taylorwoof says:

            Agree with you Throttle. Could be asking a bit too much for him to return back to his best straight up. Averaged 90 & 82 in 2011 & 2012. So maybe 65-70 average in the early rounds is more realistic. So with an average of 60-70, perhaps a cheaper rookie option could generate the same output. The only one thing that is in Suckling's favour, is he did his knee in NAB Week 1 2013. This giving him a full 12 months to recover.

    • Jason says:

      It's Matt suckling they will make room for him so what if he avg 60 odd first 5 or 6 game we all understand he will be a huge part of the premiership defence

      • @taylorwoof says:

        No worries Wombat! Thanks for bringing this to my attention. I am definitely re-evaluating if i select him or not. No doubt NAB series will play a big part in selecting him or not.
        You could be onto something….perhaps those inside mids types like Hayes & Ball, who always find the pill…find it easier to return. Compared to the others mentioned, who rely on speed/slick skills… may take long to return to their best. Great question you proposed….loved it.

        Being a Hawks fan, i have no doubt Suckling slots straight into the Hawks back six. Guerra retired after the GF, so perfect replacement.

    • TheBIGShot says:

      Great info from the community there. And a great question on sucklings character. In my mind he would have been on the ground for the GF last year if he was fit.
      He kicks the ball regularly, long and has great accuracy (also kicks long goals) which has led to great SC output 80+ avg career, so at th price looks like a lock for mine. If he is timid or doesn't kick as much in the NAB rethink him.

  141. @taylorwoof says:

    If you include Dayne Beams & Marc Murphy in the Premium Range (500K+), what is the structure everyone is preferring for there midfield this season?

    Last season i started with 6-0-4 (Ablett, Pendles, Swan, JPK, Fyfe, Mundy, OMeara, Wines, Viney & B.Hill).

    • TheBIGShot says:

      I reckon 5-1-4 for mine then. We can use less cos Danger is elite in the fwd line is a lock for every team .

      The depth in elites in the back line has meant you can go to 3/4 of them with confidence too.

  142. Wombats says:

    Getting close to a workable base

    DEF: Bartell – Mitchell – Hodge – Hanley- Laidler – Fuller – Cutler – Hunt
    Mid: Ablett-Pendle-Libba-Smurph-D.Beams-Thomas-Martin-C.Beams-Dunstan-Honeychurch
    Ruc: HayMac-Sandi-Brown-Naismith
    For:Wingard-Dixon-Robinson-Vardy-Clark-Lennon-Taylor-Garlett

    • IHTC says:

      Lovin the Def and Mids, been burned by HayMac twice before so I'm staying away but I like Sandi. Fwds taking a few risks with Vardy and Clark. May be an opportunity to downgrade clark for a better Vardy?

      • Wombats says:

        Yeah Clark & Vardy could be a risk but at the moment both are flying. Both have genuine goal kicking ability and will also have a run in the ruck each week whilst the #1 rucks rest up fwd. There's plenty of underpriced fwds and kamikaze kid,clark,vardy are only written in pencil.
        HayMac has burnt me before too but all reports are that he is firing on all 12 cylinders; if he doesn't get up for round 1 I'll swing dixon or vardy and grab a caddy, menzel or patton

    • @taylorwoof says:

      Like the defence Wombat! Hodge is pretty much my favourite player. He's a slightly ballsy selection this year with the likes of Walker, Bartel, McVeigh & Mitchell available. Though if those guys weren't available, then i have no doubt Hodgey would be in plenty of sides. Still Hodgey as a defender #luxury

      Can't fault the midfield. Nice POD in Libba!

      Rucks, i'm going the same starting combo. Praying to the gods to give them both strength!

      Fwd Line….ballsy with no Dangerfield. But nothing wrong with Wingard & Dixon (swing man). Robinson is an interesting choice. I had a look at him the other day…..he can be quite 'up & down' though in saying that he's a nice Fwd POD. F4-6….hardest part this season i think. Reading plenty of good things about Lewis Taylor. Also would love to see Clark play a full season.

  143. IHTC says:

    Ok round 2 version

    Def
    Barrel, McVeigh, Mitchell, Hanley, McDonald, Cutler (Hunt, Fuller)

    Mid
    Selwood, Fyfe, Cotchin, Kennedy, Beams, Martin, Aish (or Polec), Dunstan (Morabito, L. Taylor)

    Ruc
    Grundy, Sandi (Naismith, Thurlow)

    Danger, Dixon, Buddy, Parker, Rohan, Garlett (B. Brown, Honeychurch)

    $110k left – was thinking Fyfe and Danger for Ablett and Dusty?

    • Jason says:

      Don't leave money in the bank use what you can on prems and upgrade rookies/mid priced it's the only way jock convinced me last year to put all you money on the field lets just say he's right I finished quite high up the board. Maybe look at Pendles his lowest score last year was in the 90 compared to ablest at 61 very similar avg overall and will save you some cash to upgrade Kennedy to maybe K.Jack.

    • Wombats says:

      I like your fwds I might have to cram buddy into mine. I'll wait until I see what his role is with tippett at FF, hopefufully they let him fill in for goodsey.
      I reckon ablett/dusty is better than fyfe/danger. Gaz always comes out at 110% the others can take a couple of games to get rolling.

    • IHTC says:

      Thanks guys – yeah think I'll upgrade to either Ablett or pendles, danger to Dusty will happen too as He starts slow and low scores v his first 5 opponents.

      Cheers

  144. glennis says:

    def
    McVeigh, Mitchell, suckling, kolodjashnij k, McDonald, cutler, fuller, Georgiou
    mid
    pendlebury, selwood j, Watson, murphy, beams d, Thomas, polec, sheed, dunstan, honeychurch
    rucks
    naitanui, Sandilands, thurlow, nankervis
    fwd
    Dangerfield, wingard, parker, chapman, pavlich, lennon, taylor, garlett

    • Wombats says:

      Love your fwd line! I think you might be a bit light in defense.

      • glennis says:

        thanks buddy yeah I know but you have to be light somewhere also like the rookies down back more

        • TheBIGShot says:

          yeah glennis good structure!!
          The backline can be tempting for rookies but they often have slower growth to cash cow slaughter in my experience than other positions. To balance that the big scores of other players in the backline generally aren't as big and the differential can be something that means it costs less points.

          So it depends if you want more dough to upgrade less backline rookie/wookies, if you want better point differential then use the rooks in backline. So if you are keen on your fwd line maybe boot daisy for a cheap rookie? Thats worth a thought I reckon anyways.

  145. Dools says:

    G’day Taylor.

    Awesome stats mate and I agree with ya I’m taking a risk but I’m hoping it’s calculated

    Keep those numbers comming ’cause I like to know this kinda stuff. Good on you and your research Thanks

    • @taylorwoof says:

      Hey Dools!

      No problems at all mate. I don't mind crunching the numbers. Always good to get different perspective on players. Wombats posed a bloody good question.

      • Dools says:

        G’day again Taylor’
        Amongst all your number chrucing was their eva a successful post knee op player Reconstruction or tear repair ???
        Cheers

        • @taylorwoof says:

          Definitely. Many have come back and returned to there best. Goddard, Hayes, Ball are fine examples.

          But initially returning straight to their best (Wombats Q: First 6 games back, post serious knee inj), it seems some do (Ball & Hayes), and some take more than 6 games (Goddard, Malceski……).

          • Dools says:

            Thanks TWoof, The suckling pig has been out for 13 months plus. Enough time in Rehab to build confidence methinks plus preseason So Do I replace him with Curtley Hampton or me ol mate Davis? GWS Players and could be on the path to Hanleiness (New word I Know) but beer is awesome at that suff…
            Keep it going … just love the stats mate
            Cheers

    • throttlefinger says:

      Hate to say Dools, but these stats may require a contingency structure if he looks a little less than inspiring. Again, can bring in if form comes back.

      • Dools says:

        Totally agree TF, How was Whisky and Nacho’s and did you get him on the Guinness? LOL
        I think if the Suckling Pig is in Top 22 after NAB the Grab a HAM hahah
        Great stuff from TWoof. Rejig Def coming soon

        • throttlefinger says:

          He bailed. Hangover. Let your country down, Dools. Going to hit him up next week. Powers shots up to 3 with pale ale backers. Extra pulled pork on the nachos. Make him pay.

          Definitely rejiggering. Onward, Dools!

          • Dools says:

            Ah he was probobly celebrating another Engerand loss and lost track of time and did not listen to Jocks Rant in Pod cast…. Bet he has a full cup of talent…Bastard
            Ah well

  146. IHTC says:

    Haven't seen any posts on Gunston? Think he could be a great pick up. When Hawks used him to get goals over buddy his scores were sensational

    Last games of 2013
    SC (Goals)
    GF 124 (4), PF 146 (4), QF 99 (3)

    Compared to Buddy
    GF 83 (1), PF 49 (1), QF 58 (2)

    Add this to biggest flops of 2013 in rd 1,3 and 19 where he scored no goals compared to Buddy's 2, 4 and 1 goal (both had bad games in rd 19).

    Now as one of two main targets this should go up dramatically.

    Think he'll be a steal!??

    • Wombats says:

      Very interesting finals stats and made me check him out. $447k is an awkward price when he's going to cop a much better defender each week as #2-fwd than he did last year.
      I'm sure you can find better ways to spend that cash.

      • @taylorwoof says:

        I agree, awkward pricing. Being a Hawks supporter, i'd love to have him in there. But at the pricing, i'm going with ex teammate Buddy instead.

        • throttlefinger says:

          Have slotted Gunston as an option given those factors, IHTC. Same thought as Taylorwoof. More attractive options at that price range. May be worth a punt if he comes out raging R1-2.

  147. Give It a Go says:

    It's great to be back for the second year of SC community, had a wicked 1st time out, missed out on a final, better luck this year, I hope!!

    Here's a team I've put together, lot depends on who makes it though the NAB comp and goes into R1, I've left myself 97K with some giggling can make it more, have a look over, see what you think? seems a good crop of players from the studying etc. Input well welcome

    Defenders
    McVeigh, Jarrad (MID) , Hanley, Pearce (MID) , Grimes, Jack (MID), Schofield, Will , Suckling, Matt , McDonald, Luke (MID). Bench, Fuller, Matthew, Cutler, Tom
    Midfielders
    Selwood, Joel, Cotchin, Trent, Mitchell, Sam (DEF), Murthy, Marc, Beams, Dayne, Thomas, Dale, Beams, Clayne, Cripps, Patrick, Bench, Dustan, Luke, Taylor, Lewis
    Rucks
    McEvoy, Ben, Hickey, Tom, Apnesss and King
    Forwards
    Dangerfield, Dixon, Mitchell, Tom, Zorko, Lennon, Ben, Kersten, Shane, Bench Hayes, Nicholas and Garlett, Dayle.

    Good ya community,

    • throttlefinger says:

      My second year here too, GIAG. Welcome back.

      Like a lot of your choices. Good mix of reliables and risk. And good amount of cash to give you trade flexibility in the early rounds.

      My suggestions would be that the Defs need more reliable elites. Move Mitchell to DEF. Worry about DDPs R5-8. Would make a choice between Schofield or Suckling. Go with one, trade the other for KK or cheaper rook (or maybe Laidler).

      Like the Mids, but going without either Gazza or Pendles could be SC suicide. And if you like Selwoods, maybe bring in Scooter Selwood. WCE has favorable starting schedule and he's in for a big year.

      Think McEvoy is a strong choice for R1. He did well on the lacking Saints. Can see him doing big numbers for a winning side. Hickey is a wait and see. Watch NAB and see who is looking better between he and Longer (might find a nice cash generator in Billy boy).

      I like Dixon for probably the reasons you do. Did well coming back from injury and provides you ruck support. As anyone will tell you here, I'm a big Lennon fan. Think he really has a chance to make R1. Markworth is another to consider for your reserves.

      Hope this (or some of this) helps, GiveIt.

      • Give It a Go says:

        Thanks Trottlefinger for the advice.
        Enjoying being back, will do some gigging, defo shall watch the NAB closely, who's KK by the way?

        • throttlefinger says:

          Kade Kolo Kolodjashnij. Expensive but from all reports seems like a lock to make GCS starting 22.

          • Give It a Go says:

            Did some beer changes and come up with this team. $78K left

            Defenders
            McVeigh, Jarrad (MID) , Hanley, Pearce (MID) , Mitchell, Sam (DEF), Suckling, Matt , Kolodjashnij, Kade, McDonald, Luke (MID). Bench, Fuller, Matthew, Cutler, Tom
            Midfielders
            Pendlebury, Scott, Selwood, Joel, Cotchin, Trent, Scooter Selwood, Beams, Dayne, Thomas, Dale, Beams, Clayne, Cripps, Patrick, Bench, Dustan, Luke, Taylor, Lewis
            Rucks
            McEvoy, Ben, Hickey, Tom, Apnesss and King
            Forwards
            Dangerfield, Dixon, Mitchell, Tom, Gumbleton, Scott, Lennon, Ben, Kersten, Shane, Markworth, Daniel Bench Kersten, Shane and Garlett, Dayle

            Lot rides on the rookies, me thinks

            • throttlefinger says:

              Gumbleton is a concern. Barron did a write up on the Bombers. He wasn't recommended. Someone I like is L. Hunter for the doggies. Fwd/Mid on an emerging squad who has showed great potential. Not a sure thing, but at $285K could generate you some cash fast.

              Lot of talk about Guns'n'Rooks strat not being relevant. I don't agree. Check out Higgo's analysis of last year's winner starting team and trading of last year's winner (and click on the article for 2012's winner). They employed that strategy then were deft in their trading strategy. The SC powers raised the price of rooks to make that strategy a bit harder. I think it's just a matter of finding undervalued prems/guns like Beams, Murph and Buddy on successful squads to counter that value increase.

              But that's my take, GIAG. Hope that helps.

              • Give It a Go says:

                Thanks Trottlefinger, have had Murphy and buddy but dropped them to change the team, even though they played below par last season with injury's also,but your right its going to a good strategy alright to find the right balance.

                Cheers Bud

                • throttlefinger says:

                  Position giving me the hardest time (as well as Dools) is the ruc and undervalued players returning from injury. On the latter most notably Suckling, who Wombat and Taylorwoof broke down strong SC scorers coming back from serious injury and how historically they don't do so hot. And because of that GiveIt, I'm doing a contingency structure in case he looks weak in NAB.

                  • Give It a Go says:

                    Same same, another who gun who had a injury was Jobe, I'm thinking of changing the team to Murphy, Jobe take SS and Cotchin out, I think Cotchin is a top gun though, giving me flex to add Buddy and Hunter plus change Hickey to Gundy leaving $4k, leaves the kitty a bit tight though. But this always changes on a hourly basis.

                    Ahhhhhhhh

                    • throttlefinger says:

                      I've changed mine probably 10 times in the last 2 days. Sorta put a stake in the ground around two different structures and just keeping screenshoting so I can review later. Madness.

        • ShinbonerSpirit says:

          Unique player. Silky left foot, tall rebounding defender/winger. The next Birchall?

          • Dools says:

            Hi SS and community,
            I think he will debut this year but surely not in there 1st round 22???
            As to his skills in TAC Etcetc I have no doubt saw some footage of him and I’m sure he was not the only player in motion but man did he carve it up. I thought everyone else on the ground was in SloMo Electric but AFL Rnd1 ready? Well he does play for the Gold Coast and Toe injury to K.Hunt ..okay I’m sold he just hit my 22

          • Dools says:

            No you didn’t
            That was a secret LOL
            Cheers mate…Now I’m still struggling with Dixson so on to a little tipple of Irish B4 bed

  148. @taylorwoof says:

    Have noticed plenty of love for Brodie Grundy. I decided to do some research on ruckmen. I couldn't included either Cox, Sandilands or Minson in the data, as they debuted pre SC days.

    Below is a list of ruckmen, and their second season games played & SC averages:

    Nic Naitanui22@ 71.1
    Zac Clarke3@ 32.6
    Jonathan Giles22@ 74.9
    Shane Mumford18@ 53.2
    Mike Pyke16@ 58.5
    Zac Smith16@ 69.8
    Ivan Maric6@ 53
    Matthew Kreuzer22@ 79.2
    Robert Warnock9@ 49.1
    Matthew Lobbe10@ 75.4
    Brent Renouf15@ 47
    Hamish McIntosh 17@ 55
    Sam Jacobs12@ 74.2
    Todd Goldstein13@ 49.7
    Patrick Ryder21@ 70.3
    Ben McEvoy11@ 41
    Matthew LBerger10@ 39.5

    Grundy (363K) is priced at an average of around 68.0. Of the 17 ruckmen listed above, only 6 of them (35%) averaged greater than 68 in their sophomore season. With the highest average of 79.2 coming from Matthew Kreuzer.

    Interesting what the game plan is for Grundy players. Banking on him averaging 75-80, then trade out once he hits the 430K mark. But that will only provide a 60-70K profit. Or are holders hoping he becomes a 85+ player and then becomes a keeper. How has Jarrad Witt been progressing this summer, it he valid positional competition?

    Just some food for thought with all of the above.

    • throttlefinger says:

      Man Taylorwoof, you are cranking out the numbers. Definitely brings some things to light. But I think this kid is special. The 93 against the Hawks showed that. He's very aggressive and mixes it up well. Can't say the same for Witt. Grundy seemed to take over when he got on the field. Think he'll average 85-90 this year. Yes, that's very optimistic. In terms of cash generating players, Sandi seems the one given his bargain basement price. Leaning towards Sandi as R2 but my Team B structure I have Grundy (for now).

    • ShinbonerSpirit says:

      Love the numbers mate! Agree with TF, Grundy is a different animal. However, it is worth noting that all who played at least 20 games (the vast majority of the season) averaged more than 71 – don't read too much into NicNat's numbers though, it takes a lot to outshine Cox. Grundy is set for a number one role with the Magpies (Hudson isn't going to steal the spotlight) and boasts an AFL-ready physique.

      • Dools says:

        Hi Lads
        Loved the Numbercrunching from TWoof, Ham&Eggbuger is R2 and TF will be pround of me have gone Minson as R1 (Injury and all) Grundy is still R3 ..I m’so over losing trades on broke back mountains (However Mummy/Maric and Minson my Tripple M) but leaves me only 120K in da vault but then the beer speaks…No trade in Ruc’s …MMMMMH..I feel a team change coming on again Damn! More late night drinking* Whoo Hoo (*& research) Ya I love this,

        • throttlefinger says:

          Hate to say, Dools, I've pretty much abandoned Mummy. Unless he comes out looking like a beast, think being on a wooden spoon-favored team will not give us the SC scores to warrant an R1 role. Leaning towards Minson on high end, McEvoy low.

    • meanieoh says:

      Witts is still training with Sinclair away from the main group, I certainly don't see him being an impact in the first half of the year.

      My guess is that, at least early on, it will be Grundy rucking with White giving him a chop out.

      • @taylorwoof says:

        Cheers for the update on Witts Meanieoh! Appreciate it!

        Think i'm definitely going to look at Grundy now.

        Perhaps instead on Hmac/Sandi combo, Hmac or Sandi/Grundy might be the less riskier option….due to the injury record of the former too.

    • TheBIGShot says:

      Great data And on those numbers he is priced up to his best. Thanks I was already going around him but adds to that caution for me. :)

  149. @taylorwoof says:

    Trying a different angle this season with the number crunching & posting on here more than simply reading. Gives another view on things rather than simply going on prev season averages and backing in the good old 'eye' from watching games.

    Cheers for the feedback on Grundy Throttle. If he does hit that 85-90 ave then he'll be a very nice get. Agree with you regarding Sandi. Fair to say if he's sound come Round 1, then he'll be the most selected ruckmen.

    • throttlefinger says:

      Think so too. And that's fine. PODs that work are a mix of thorough investigation and, well, a bit of luck. Like Dimm Wit's Malceski pick last year. Regardless, I think it's fair to say that you can't look for Sandi for long term play. Hope that he can make you a quick $150K then move him out.

    • Wombats says:

      Hey Wolfie can you run this through your stats brain?

      Top 6 Mids for past 3 years. Average over first 3 games compared to end of season ave.
      Basically want to know who starts at top output. I very aware that the opponent has big influence (i.e crowley)

      • @taylorwoof says:

        No worries Wombat. I'll see what i an conjure up bud.

        • @taylorwoof says:

          Here we go Wombat! (Courtesy of Too Serious Stats Website) * Stats rounded down to zero decimal place as per their website.

          First three games Ave / Season Ave

          2013
          Ablett: 130 / 129
          Pendlebury: 135 / 127
          J.Selwood: 113 / 118
          Swan: 110 / 117
          Griffen: 115 / 116
          S.Johnson: 111 / 116

          2012
          Ablett: 139 / 136
          Swan: 100 / 129
          Pendlebury: 121 / 125
          D.Beams: 81 / 122
          Watson: 129 / 121
          J.P.Kennedy: 130 / 121

          2011
          Pendlebury: 125 / 129
          Ablett: 114 / 127
          Swan: 142 / 122
          Dal Santo: 111 / 119
          M.Murphy: 106 / 118
          Judd: 112 / 116

          *Taken the Top 6 Mids for each season, on average pts per game….not total pts for the season.

          • Wombats says:

            Thanks mate your a gem. shame those numbers didn't reveal an opportunity to grab a slow starting premium after round 4 at $60k below starting price.

            Re:
            Hodge @ D3 Hanley @D4
            Will this be his first full pre-season in 3 years or was that last year?
            I don't see McVeigh backing up last year I reckon he'll ave 90 at the most so $570k is way overpriced.
            MadMick is just as likely to play walker in the fwd pocket for the first 6 weeks so that he can check out the draftees as he is to let him roam.
            I've been watching walks all his career and his only fault is that he goes into his shell when he has a physically aggressive tag. A mate of mine who starred for the Cats in the 90's (Gavin Excell) had exactly the same problem and when opposition coaches worked it out his career was over.

            • @taylorwoof says:

              No worries mate. Yeah, bit of a bugger….they all started flying from the get go!

              RE: Andrew Walker. I traded him in last year for Chappy after about Round 5-6, and he was really good value. But agree with you, that hey may play forward. With the loss of Eddie Betts, Mick will need to find another 50+ goals from somewhere. Walker kicked 50 goals in 2011, so he could be a huge candidate to play forward. I believe playing forward would reduce his SC scores.

              Pretty sure Hodge did 'most' of the pre season last year. But know he did start it a fraction late, if i remember correctly. This year for sure would be his first 'full' pre season for quite a few years. Depends on what role Clarko gives him, to how well he scores. The old 'sweeper' role off half back, or purely midfield role. I'm thinking the former as Clarko might want to start blooding a few more young mids like Hallahan, Woodward, Hartung, and more mid time for Bradley Hill.

  150. ShinbonerSpirit says:

    I'm just throwing this out, but has anyone thought about Matt White? His name has become almost synonymous with the vest, with Richmond deciding to hand him an impact sub role more than 50% of the games he has played in. Result? An average of 56. And he is priced at exactly that.

    Take away the vest-affected games, and you're left with an average of 78.4. However, the Tigers' management decided against giving the man an extended run of games without the vest for consistency's sake. He is, perhaps, a victim of his own explosive speed. Between Rounds 16 and 22 he was awarded a run of six games in which he remained on the ground for more than 80% of the time. His numbers read:

    58, 62, 72, 80, 99, 107.

    The 107 was duly rewarded with a customary vest in Richmond's last H&A game of the season, in which he scored 43. Nevertheless, the man can score proficiently when awarded an extended run of games. The early figures of 58 and 62 were the result of a low disposal efficiency rather than an inability to win the ball. His disposal count in those games read: 15, 17, 15, 12, 19, 22. In those last three games, he was handed more time on the pitch than he had been given all season bar Round 10 in which 88% of time on ground resulted in 95 points. It took him some time to rectify the efficiency issue, but when he did, he scored extremely well – an extended stint on the ground is all that's needed.

    Only five times last year did he spend at least 85% of the game playing. His average? 88.

    A move to Port just may be what the man needs. Should Mitchell and/or Polec keep the dreaded vest off White, he might average almost twice what he is priced at (85+ more realistically). He is similar to Montagna in that they both possess explosive speed and win plenty of uncontested ball. With Hartlett and Ebert at the club, opposition teams would be mad to even think about tagging White. And aged 26, it's now or never.

    Just my $0.02.

    • @taylorwoof says:

      Super info there Shinboner! Love it!

      On those stats alone, he has to be on the watch list. Could he be like Monfries last year?

      Only concern is he's a little awkwardly priced. But after reading your info, definitely keeping an eye on him in NAB.

  151. Dools says:

    Holy Sh1T Spirit,

    That is pure inspiration mate, My keyboard keeps openin’ and closing disk space. I have read your post 3 times and …well I can’t fault it going to the fridge to compose next part …wait out…

    Okay Keyboar Next G and I are going thru this….Polec is favored ATM. Kane Mitchell has falen off the planet(Which is ominious) and now another trade in…Power have Geelong type statagies Hmmm Motlop type mate except he is a ranga….I think Hinkley will use him..Will he be midfield or on the half fwd flank for port? Sh1t i was all for Polec to replace retirements….Wow he would be inspirational as a pick…but he generated those numbers after 5/6 years with the Tigs surely he would take more then a year to develope? but then why did PT select him on Free Agancy …Bugger…Thanks for the 1 AM wake up SS. Damn! Beer is getting warm and I think its only 23C . Keybord and next G are intrigued so more reseacrh for me WhooHoo!

    • throttlefinger says:

      Well done, Shinerboner. Although the price is a bit awkward (esp, if you believe Martin will do as good as advertised).

      As a Tiges fan, Matty White getting the vest has been a bit of a head scratcher given the results you mention. Hinkley could inspire him more. Need to see how he fits in. I feel the same way about Nahas. He showed the ability but didn't get the chance. May work better for Roos. Those two are definitely worth watching.

  152. Hutto says:

    Gday all! Getting there I think! Still plenty of ifs and buts, particularly in my backs and ruck and am on hols in thailand so need to get back to a pc to see what the higginator has to say! In the mean time would love some feedback from all you SC gurus out there!

    Def: Bartel, McVeigh, Hanley, KK, McDonald, Laidler + Cutler, Fuller

    Mid: Pendles, Watson, Fyfe, Mitchell, Beams x 2, Michie, X Ellis + Dunstan, Honeychurch

    Ruck: H Mac, Sandi + Brown, Nankervis

    Fwd: Danger, Martin, Wingard, Dixon, Mitchell, McBean + Taylor, Garlett

    Cheers. Love you long time…

    • throttlefinger says:

      Strong team, Hutto. Lot of footy flexing going on. How much cash you have left?

      Laidler and X. Ellis I'd keep a closer eye on than most. Only area that looks thin is your rucks. Need a gun in there so the position carries its own weight. Dixon is a nice backup but you need point generation. And both those are more injury-prone than most. Suggest taking a chance on one as your R2. FWD line is very strong. If you're looking for Tiges, take Lennon over McBean. Word is that McBean isn't up to full strength and Lennon is angling for R1 selections.

      • Hutto says:

        Thanks TF. Only $800 left over with this team, but have the option of trading down the likes of Laidler, Ellis, Wingard or even Watson to give a few extra $$$ before the start of the season should one of the rucks struggle. I really am hopeful of them getting through the first month or so before the inevitable breakdown. Big hopes, I know. Can't wait for the NAB to kick-off! I will definitely keep an eye on Lennons progress though and see what Dimma does with him. Thanks again TF!

        • throttlefinger says:

          Which Mitchell is in your mids, Hutto? Would suggest trying to get your kitty $50K+. Give yourself some trade flexibility in the early rounds.

          • Hutto says:

            Will definitely be aiming for more if I can before R1. Mitchell is in my midfield as a dpp option for the backs. Tom Mitchell is in my fwd line as another dpp option. Am considering downgrading maybe Wingard for Zorko to free up a little more depending on his preseason and where he'll be played. Although Wingard is meant to be pushing into the midfield this year and has been training hard since a month after the finals to achieve this, so will see.

  153. Nathan says:

    Hi community, thoughts on my v2.0 team would be much appreciated. Cheers

    DEF
    Mitchell, Sam (MID) $562,000
    Hanley, Pearce (MID) $516,200
    Hibberd, Michael $517,300
    Suckling, Matt $312,200
    Kolodjashnij, Kade $197,300
    McDonald, Luke (MID) $182,300
    Fuller, Matthew $117,300
    Cutler, Tom $117,300

    MIDS
    Ablett, Gary $695,000
    Watson, Jobe $601,300
    Rockliff, Tom $591,500
    Beams, Dayne $497,200
    Thomas, Dale $341,800
    Martin, Jack $222,300
    Aish, James $187,300
    Murphy, Marc $498,300
    Dunstan, Luke $132,300
    Morabito, Anthony $123,900

    RUCKS
    Lobbe, Matthew $464,400
    Leuenberger, Matthew $523,500
    Nankervis, Toby $117,300
    Brown, Ben (FWD) $117,300

    FWDS
    Dangerfield, Patrick (MID) $609,000
    Wingard, Chad (MID) $531,800
    Roughead, Jarryd $531,300
    Rohan, Gary $176,200
    Lennon, Ben $162,300
    Taylor, Lewis (MID) $117,300
    Garlett, Dayle (MID) $117,300
    Honeychurch, Mitch (MID) $117,300

    I know my fwds are a risk, but if Rohan's fit i believe he will play 22 games and at the feet of Franklin and Tippet with Lamb, Everitt and Morton gone and Jetta on the wing. Could average between 60-80 IMO. Perfect cash cow, Round 10 bye too.

    Worried about Watson and Hibberd too, what are your thoughts?

    $2200 left

    Thanks again community.

    • throttlefinger says:

      Really like this structure, Nathan. Lot of good risks. Read the above thread about Suckling from Wombat and Taylorwoof. Something to think about if Suckling doesn't look strong during pre-season.

      Your mids and rucks are like a shot of whiskey backed by two shots of tequila. Nasty tasty and deliciously potent combo.

      Your FWDs is where the biggest risk is. But the structure is sound if Rohan look solid and Lennon/Taylor get the R1 nods. Bigger concern is that you don't have much moola left. You want to have cash so you can have maneuver with trades in the early rounds. Would try to rework a bit so you can have at least $30K. Yeah, that means using rookies. If we get a decent crop that hit it hard in NAB and get the R1 nod, you should take advantage, as the name of the game is cash generation in the first half of the season (a lesson I learned way too late last season)

      Hope this helps, Nathan.

      • Nathan says:

        Cheers for the reply mate.

        Yeah i was very hesitant to put Suckling in also.

        I've just gone Suckling – Docherty atm. I'm just waiting to suss out the NAB now :) $30k left

  154. SCMania says:

    Hey guys didn't get anything on my last team so would appreciate feedback, thanks!

    DEF: J. Bartel – J. McVeigh – S. Mitchell – M. Suckling – K. Koladjashnij – J.Laidler ( M. Fuller – A. Steinberg )

    MID: S. Pendlebury – J. Selwood – T. Cotchin – D. Martin – D. Beams – J. Martin – D. Tyson – L. McDonald ( L. Dunstan – J. O'Rourke )

    RUC: M. Lobbe – M. Pyke ( M. Apeness – T. Nankervis )

    FWD: P. Dangerfield – C. Dixon – D. Zorko – J. Lamb – G. Rohan – B. Lennon ( S. Kersten – L. Taylor )

    $8,600k left

    Thought about DPP swings, Jesse Hogan and Bock couldn't fit in there, also Dayle Garlett. What do you think?

    • SCMania says:

      Swap Steinberg for Cutler.

      • throttlefinger says:

        Hey SCMania. Yeah, I like Cutler too. Don't think he'll make R1 but he's a maybe to make my reserves. Been reading heaps of great things.

        DEFs: Only concern would be Suckling. Read above for Wombat and Taylorwoof's thread about prem players performance after returning from a major injury. Definitely lot of eyeballs will be on him during NAB. Just prepare yourself if he doesn't look at form at start. May be worth having a R1 rook instead to give you more cash in the kitty and give you more cash to pick him up or someone else that's hot.

        Mids are ironclad strong. No comments on those other than keep an eye out for Morabito.

        Rucks is your most interesting and risky set up. Could pay off. That's a big daddy plums call. Could work or backfire. May be worth a shot as I would guarantee less than 5% will have that duo.

        Like the FWDs. I like the Lamb call. Rohan is a wait and see. May want to consider another rook in your starting lineup to give you more cash so you can have more room to trade in the early rounds.

        Nice structure, my man. Hope this (or some of it) helps.

  155. Give it a go says:

    Any reports on Karnezis, Patrick? worth a punt for F4, will leave me with $59K in the kitty

  156. Wombats says:

    Does anyone have any news on Jarman Impey?
    I'm thinking that he and Jake Neade might share the small fwd role at Port.

  157. Sauvy says:

    Hey guys would love some feedback on my team :)

    Def: Bartel, McVeigh, Hanley, suckling, r.shaw, fuller, (kolodjashnij, McDonald)

    Mid: Ablett, Watson, Cotchin, beams, Thomas, J.martin, Tyson, Aish, (beams, Ellis)

    Ruck: Nic nat, Sandilands,(nankervis, currie)

    Fwd: Dangerfield, pavlich, Franklin, Higgins, lamb, bock, (garlett, Taylor)

    I have $18,000 still in the bank.

    • TheBIGShot says:

      cautions for me:
      R Shaw, Bock, Higgins return from injury unless stars in NAB.
      Pav seems to be well priced but might be better off looking for a mid type fwd.
      Nic Nat is a no for me early no matter his price unless NAB surprises.

  158. Latest team. Please have a look and comment thanks.

    DEF
    McVeigh, Jarrad (MID)
    Hanley, Pearce (MID)
    Swallow, David (MID)
    Suckling, Matt
    Kolodjashnij, Kade
    McDonald, Luke (MID)
    Cutler, Tom
    Fuller, Matthew

    MID
    Selwood, Joel
    Watson, Jobe
    Rockliff, Tom
    Cotchin, Trent
    Prestia, Dion
    Beams, Dayne
    Martin, Jack
    Aish, James
    Sheed, Dom
    Dunstan, Luke

    RUC
    McIntosh, Hamish
    Sandilands, Aaron
    Nankervis, Toby
    King, Max

    FWD
    Dangerfield, Patrick (MID)
    Martin, Dustin (MID)
    Franklin, Lance
    Walker, Taylor
    Kersten, Shane
    Taylor, Lewis (MID)
    Garlett, Dayle (MID)
    Clark, Mitch / Higgins, Shaun / Lennon, Ben

    $3,300 In the bank

    Any thoughts on my team and the last forward spot out of the 3? All thoughts will be taken in to consideration.

    • Hutto says:

      Hey Noah, Team looks good, but Walker is comimg back from injury through the reserves, so not sure when he will play. Also remains to be seen when Kersten will get a go with Geelong. I have gone with a similar ruck, which you will also have to monitor through the NAB as both Sandi and H Mac are coming back from injury. May be handy to have a ruck/fwd option in your team to cover any missed games from them. Do you have a regular captain in mind in your side? To answer your question re: the last fwd spot, I would lean towrds Lennon based on what I have read on this site. He has apparently been pushing hard in the off season for a R1 berth. In saying that we're all kind of guessing at the moment until we see some NAB games played. Hope this helps mate.

    • ShinbonerSpirit says:

      Hutto is right, Walker is going to be eased in. The Crows will indubitably take the conservative route with Tex. Mate I've got some solid advice for you here: Do NOT go near Higgins! It will never, never, never end well. Great midfield. I'm wary of the Hmac/Sandi partnership – the two most injury-prone ruckmen… scratch that… two of the most injury-prone players in the league. Suckling is coming back from knee reco, so keep that in mind. Defense is solid for the most part.

  159. rhino says:

    Hey everyone, just wondering who you would choose.

    Franklin or Parker or Mitchell from swans.

    All comments would be appreciated.

      • Hutto says:

        I'm going Mitchell at this stage due to his time spent in the midfield and his dpp eligibility. Will review during the NAB.

    • ShinbonerSpirit says:

      The obvious choice is Buddy, but I've got Parker in my team right now.

    • IHTC says:

      Big swans fan and can tell you Parker is flying at training and is moving up pecking order in midfield with Jude retiring. He will definitely end this year with 100+ average. Strong tackler (ave 5 per game), can score goals (ave just under 1 a game) and averages 21 disposals per games which will go up.

      Buddy will kick over 80 this year with 8 games at SCG and then help the Swans win more MCG/ Etihad games as he loves both those venues.

      Mitchell is still being gently brought back after ankle, waiting to see his nab cup.

      Would go both Parker and Buddy in my opinion.

  160. Michael says:

    DEFENDERS:
    Mitchell, Sam (MID) $562000 (HAW)
    Bartel, Jimmy (MID) $572500 (GEE)
    Simpson, Kade $513200 (CAR)
    Suckling, Matt $312200 (HAW)
    Scharenberg, Matthew $192300 (COL)
    Kolodjashnij, Kade $197300 (GCS)
    McDonald, Luke (MID) $182300 (NTH)
    Laidler, Jeremy $161800 (SYD)
    MIDFIELDERS:
    Selwood, Joel $638700 (GEE)
    Liberatore, Tom $576200 (WBD)
    Dangerfield, Patrick (FWD) $609000 (ADE)
    Steven, Jack $593100 (STK)
    Thomas, Dale $341800 (CAR)
    Martin, Jack $222300 (GCS)
    Tyson, Dom $216800 (MEL)
    Michie, Viv $172600 (MEL)
    Aish, James $187300 (BRL)
    Polec, Jared $172600 (PTA)
    RUCKS:
    Grundy, Brodie $363300 (COL)
    Sandilands, Aaron $310700 (FRE)
    Currie, Daniel $123900 (NTH)
    Apeness, Michael (FWD) $137300 (FRE)
    FORWARDS:
    Franklin, Lance $487700 (SYD)
    Rioli, Cyril $476700 (HAW)
    Bock, Nathan $196900 (GCS)
    Wingard, Chad (MID) $531800 (PTA)
    Black, Aaron $412900 (NTH)
    Billings, Jack (MID) $207300 (STK)
    Garlett, Dayle (MID) $117300 (HAW)
    Rohan, Gary $176200 (SYD)

    $34,000 left in the bank, who would be the better option in the backline out of kade simpson and pearce hanley?

    • pearce hanley big scorer and more consistent also Aaron Black is a big risk and i don't like it because there are a lot of cheaper and better options but nice

  161. simmo3 says:

    Hey legends would love a few thoughts

    backs
    McVeigh Mitchell suckling weller McDonald fuller (laidler, Cutler)

    Mids
    Ablett Pendelbury Watson Murphy D Beams Aish C Beams Michie (dunstan Morabito)

    Ruck
    Minson Grundy (Nankervis Currie)

    Fwd
    Dangerfield Martin Franklin Darling Higgins Taylor (Gartlett Honeychurch)

  162. Sauvy says:

    Hey guys would love some feedback on my team

    Def: Bartel, McVeigh, Hanley, suckling, r.shaw, fuller, (kolodjashnij, McDonald)

    Mid: Ablett, Watson, Cotchin, beams, Thomas, J.martin, Tyson, Aish, (beams, Ellis)

    Ruck: Nic nat, Sandilands,(nankervis, currie)

    Fwd: Dangerfield, pavlich, Franklin, Higgins, lamb, bock, (garlett, Taylor)

    I have $18,000 still in the bank.

  163. BLUEPRIME says:

    First effort. I would expect about half of them will probably not be there by R1. Cheers

    D Hanley R Henderson J Grimes Fuller
    D Swallow Suckling L McDonald Cutler

    M Pendlebury Cotchin S Mitchell M Murphy Polec
    D Beams D Thomas C Beams Michie X Ellis

    R B Grundy Sandilands Apeness D Currie

    F Dangerfield L Parker Chapman B Lennon
    D Hale Bock Rohan Broomhead

  164. Rhino says:

    Quite interested in jack Martin, there have been a lot of people saying Martin will have to average over pendles to make any money, which is a joke,

    Martin Starts at 222.300 if he averages a modest 70 after 3 the first three weeks he will already be up to 254k

    If he averages 125 like some people think he needs to, to make any money at all.

    He will have already be at 330 after three round just wanted to clear that up.

  165. Luto says:

    Any thoughts would be appreciated
    Cheers.

    1. Walker, A
    2. McVeigh, J
    3. Mitchell, S
    4. Hanley, P
    5. Kolodjashnij, K
    6. Laidler, J
    7. Cutler, T
    8. Fuller, M
    9. Pendlebury, S
    10. Watson, J
    11. Ziebell, J
    12. Murphy, M
    13. Beams, D
    14. Beams, C
    15. Michie, V
    16. Dunstan, L
    17. Morabito, A
    18. Taylor, L
    19. Naitanui, N
    20. Grundy, B
    21. Apeness, M
    22. Nankervis, T
    23. Dangerfield, P
    24. Martin, D
    25. Franklin, L
    26. Lamb, J
    27. Billings, J
    28. Rohan, G
    29. Garlett, D
    30. Honeychurch, M

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  167. Sarah says:

    What do people think of Rory Sloane or Keiran Jack??

    • @taylorwoof says:

      Warming to Kieren Jack…

      Yesterday, i did some research on Top 10 'Total Points' scorers for past three seasons.

      Along with Gary Ablett, Kieren Jack is the only other player to appear in the Top 10 on total points for the past two seasons.

      Finished 7th on overall points in 2013, and 10th in 2012.

      Even though his season averages haven't been through the roof (109 in 2013, 112 in 2012), having been able to finish Top 10 in consecutive seasons shows he's very durable. He's on my short (long at the moment) list of Mid Premiums. On those numbers i think at the moment he is a valid selection in any side.

  168. rolling thunder says:

    1Bartel, Jimmy (MID) $572,500
    2McVeigh, Jarrad (MID) $572,500
    3Mitchell, Sam (MID) $562,000
    4Laidler, Jeremy $161,800
    5Kolodjashnij, Kade $197,300
    6Langdon, Tom (MID) $117,300
    7McDonald, Luke (MID) $182,300
    8Fuller, Matthew $117,300
    MIDFIELDERS
    1Watson, Jobe $601,300
    2Cotchin, Trent $572,000
    3Sidebottom, Steele $555,300
    4Beams, Dayne $497,200
    5Thomas, Dale $341,800
    6Pendlebury, Scott $683,100
    7Ellis, Xavier $159,100
    8Polec, Jared $172,600
    9Morabito, Anthony $123,900
    10Crouch, Matt $117,300
    RUCKS
    1Sandilands, Aaron $310,700
    2Lobbe, Matthew $464,400
    3Nankervis, Toby $117,300
    4Apeness, Michael (FWD) $137,300
    FORWARDS
    1Dangerfield, Patrick (MID) $609,000
    2Martin, Dustin (MID) $549,200
    3Wingard, Chad (MID) $531,800
    4Franklin, Lance $487,700
    5Garlett, Dayle (MID) $117,300
    6Taylor, Lewis (MID) $117,300
    7Honeychurch, Mitch (MID) $117,300
    8Thurlow, Fraser (RUC) $118,400

    • NutSack says:

      would like to get rid of KK for Suckling but then would need to dig out 100K from somewhere

      • NutSack says:

        could possibly exchange Sidebottom for Zorko, Gray or Grimes or D Swalow.

        • NutSack says:

          its an OK team but. Maybe you need 1 more defence so getting Suckling could work. Its only early though rolling so you can adjust closer to season

          • rolling thunder says:

            Hey thanks! I will keep my Def prems locked and same with my Fwds but in Mids Im also considering JPK, Murphy, Priddis and SSelwood. I reckon one of GAJ and Pendles is enough to start this year.

  169. @taylorwoof says:

    Over the past few days, Jock & The Boys constant talk and reminders of 'Fallen Premiums' has been stuck at the forefront of my mind. The likes of D.Beams, M.Murphy, D.Thomas, Franklin and co….

    After many hours spent on researching stats and making numerous changes on the Higginator, i've come up with the following:

    Rather than laying out this side in the usual format of DEF, MID, RUCK & FWDS. I've decided to list it as broken down on the Higginator under the ROOKIES, MID PRICERS & PREMIUMS categories.

    ROOKIES : <200K (15)

    K.Kolodjashnij, L.McDonald, M.Fuller, T.Cutler, J.Martin, D.Tyson, D.Sheed, C.Beams, L.Dunston, D.Currie, T.Nankervis, J.Hogan, G.Rohan, L.Taylor, D.Garlett.

    MID PRICERS: <500K (7)

    M.Suckling, D.Beams, M.Murphy, D.Thomas, A.Sandilands, L.Franklin, M.Pavlich.

    PREMIUMS: >500K (8)

    J.Bartel, S.Mitchell, L.Hodge, G.Ablett, N.Dal Santo, T.Goldstein, P.Dangerfield, D.Martin.

    Salary Remaining: $61,600 (Higginator Projected Round Score: 1877.4)

    Looking at the names under the Mid Pricers category, with the exception of Suckling and perhaps to a lesser extent Thomas they all 'Fallen Premiums'. Is this the closest to a G'n'R structure possible? Considering 6 of the 7 Mid Pricers listed above have the ability and a proven track record of being able to average 100+ in a season.

    I know some of the above selections are questionable due to past injuries, age, etc (Hodge, Pavlich, Sandilands & Dal Santo).

    Thought i'd share my findings/thoughts etc with the community.

    • Wombats says:

      Hi Wolfie,
      I like it a lot but I reckon Nicky Dal is a bit risky being at a new club and all, also confident that Naismith will get a run before Toby, apart from that it's very similar to my latest team; 1799 on the Higginator :-)

      • @taylorwoof says:

        Cheers Wombat!

        Cool, Naismith easy swap with Nankervis if need be.

        Dal Santo, yeah no doubt always a risk when moving to a new club. Averaged 112 at the back end of 2013. Looking at either him or Scott Thompson as under priced mids. I still think both are capable of averaging 105+ in 2014. Both under priced solely off the back of one below par season.

  170. SCMania says:

    Your thoughts on Dom Tyson?

    • @taylorwoof says:

      Thought it was ballsy of Melbourne to give up picks 2 & 20 for Tyson & 9.

      Paul Roos and the coaching staff must have a high opinion of him to have made that trade.

      I can't say i watched him closely enough in 2012. It's more of a speculative type pick at the moment, as most of the rookies are until we see them in the NAB Series. Plus being at Melbourne, surely he get's plenty of opportunity to rotate through the midfield from Round 1.

      What do you think of him?

      • SCMania says:

        Well after listening to the podcast last night at his price it made me ask but should get close to 20 gms and maybe and average of 75+.

    • BLUEPRIME says:

      Very good M8,9 or10. I would rather pocket 55-65K and go for C Beams, Michie,Polec or X Ellis.

      • @taylorwoof says:

        No doubt, freeing up extra coin on a cheaper mid rookie would be super.

        Looking forward to the NAB Series. Will be watching the Melbourne games closely. Surely we get 1 or 2 from Tyson, Michie, Blease, Dom Barry etc.

  171. BLUEPRIME says:

    C Dixon $487900 Vs D Hale $449000
    Both DPP. Comments?

  172. Wombats says:

    Any love for Chappy this year? I think Bomber likes him and he's cheapish.
    I don't want him for the full season but if he can last until round 10 would be great round 6 would be ok

    • SCMania says:

      Hey WB, love him as I'm Bombers but I think Zorko is a much better option as he is 447k and should get back to his 2012 form just about.

    • BLUEPRIME says:

      Chappy is in my fwd line at present. He has plenty to prove with the dons and is impressing on the track. I think he will be averaging 100+ by round 10 and I would expect he would be my F2 by then and a keeper.

  173. Wombats says:

    Any truth to the rumour that Luke Brown will become part of midfield rotation at adelaide now that VB is gone?

  174. Callum says:

    Would love to hear thoughts on this team that I have so far, I think its shaping up fairly nicely.

    DEF: Bartel(MID), Hanley(MID), Birchall, Suckling, Kolodjashnij, L Mcdonald(MID), Cutler, Fuller

    MID: Pendles, Watson, Cotchin, Murphy, D Beams, Thomas, Martin, Michie, Dunstan, Morabito

    RUCK: Sandilands, Mcintosh, Nankervis, B Brown(FWD)

    FWD: Dangerfield(MID), Martin(MID), Wingard(MID), Franklin, Fasolo, Garlett(MID),Honeycrunch(MID),Taylor(MID)

    22.1k left over

    Still unsure about Dunstan and mcdonald as rookies, but i couldn't think of anyone else to replace them, unless I was to use a cheaper DEF rookie with possibly no DPP, and instead of dunstan have claye beams or aish. And Ben Brown in ruck is only there as a captain loophole, as he has a DPP for trades if needed and plays for north melbourne who have a fair amount of games on the Sunday, including plenty of 4:40 games as well as few Friday nighters.

    • @taylorwoof says:

      Your D4-D8 is very popular. I'm currently running with the same.

      Can't question the mids at the moment, very strong. Quality of the rookies will be revealed during the NAB Series.

      Rucks, as you'd already know….two injury prone players is a risk. I initially had the same setup. Then decided to swap HMac for Goldstein, and a few changes elsewhere to free up the extra coin for that swap. If a rookie ruckmen reveals themselves over the NAB Series, then perhaps Hmac/Sandi combo could be a good play…with the rookie as backup. But until then…that combo poses a risk.

      Fwds look good. Plenty of potential swingers.

      Looks quite a good squad Callum!

      • Callum says:

        Yeah I was thinking that too, I also had goldy in there then changed him to kreuzer who I think might shoot up in price, but then changed again to mcintosh

  175. Wombats says:

    Wombats FC 2014 V2.30
    Wombats FC 2014 V2.30
    <250K
    Garlett, Lewis, Lennon, Clarck, Naismith, Brown,Honeychurch, Dunstan, Beams, Martin, Fuller, Laidler, Cutler, Hunt
    250K<500K
    Vardy, Parker, Dixon, Sandi, Hay Mac, Thomas, Beams, Murphy,
    500k<
    Wingard, Ablett, Pendle, Libba, Hanley, Hodge, Mitchell, Bartell.

    • Wombats says:

      1805 on the Higginator

      • @taylorwoof says:

        Where do you think Vardy plays Wombat? Permanent Fwd, or Ruck/Fwd? Someone has to play the other key fwd role with Hawkins.

        • Wombats says:

          I reckon Vardy will be #1 FWD at Cats. Not much sense in building your fwd strategy around a bloke who might not get up on the weekend. Tommy H is broken and unreliable. Vardy is fixed and has x-factor

  176. Wombats says:

    I'm so strung out waiting for the footy that I'm 'Playin the Higginator' Wombats v2.31 scores 1819.9 $4,900 in the bank

  177. Wombats says:

    Round 10 could be a worry with 15 of em having the bye

  178. rhino says:

    Anybody that is considering Steven Motlop? Watch his injuries problems and keep eye on him during off season. http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-01-18/star-cat-mo

  179. Dustin says:

    DEF: Mitchell, Mcveigh, Birchall, Suckling, Mcdonald, Fuller (Laidler, Cutler)
    MID: Pendles, Watson, Selwood, Cotchin, Beams, Daisy, JMartin, Dunstan (Morabito, Michie)
    RUCK: Naitanui/Sandi, Grundy/Mcintosh (Apeness, Nankervis)
    FWD: Danger, Martin, Franklin, Chapman, Garlett, Taylor (Honey, Kersten)

    • throttlefinger says:

      Funny, I was just considering Chappy. But I think he may follow the Sandi strategy hope he gives you 8-10 rounds of good scores then upgrade. But at that price, it’s not as great a cash generator.

      Defs and mids are strong. Careful about nicnatbbnqord is that he’s still training on separate path from team. May not produce NicNat scores for a couple rounds. Food for thought…especially if he doesn’t play nab.

      Rawkin team, Dustin

  180. Probably one of my last versions of my team that I will be posting on here so feedback would be very much appreciated!

    DEF: S. Mitchell – J. Bartel – J. McVeigh – M. Suckling – K. Koladjashnij – L. McDonald ( M. Fuller – T. Cutler )

    MID: S. Pendlebury – J. Selwood – T. Cotchin – D. Beams – M. Murphy – J. Martin – L. Dunstan – V. Michie ( X. Ellis – J. O'Rourke )

    RUC: M. Leuenberger – I. Maric ( M. Apeness – T. Nankervis )

    FWD: P. Dangerfield – D. Martin – D. Zorko – J. Hogan – G. Rohan – S. Kersten ( L. Taylor – D. Garlett )

    9,000k left

    • SCMania it is if your wondering.

      • Sarah says:

        Love the rucks but I think you're a bit light on for forwards. I also have reservations over McVeighs price, I'm not sure he'll be able to back up his scoring power of last year, but that's just my opinion.
        Otherwise, it looks great. Pretty solid midfield 5.

        • @taylorwoof says:

          I agree with you Sarah re McVeigh. He's an upgrade target later in the season if he repeats last year's numbers. ATM going with Bartel, Mitchell & Hodge as Premiums defenders.

    • Wombats says:

      I'd reconsider big Ivan. Now that the Hammer has moved to tigerland he wont be doing anywhere near as much work = nowhere near as many SC points

      • @taylorwoof says:

        I agree with you Wombat.

        I would think the back issues Maric had late last season could be a concern. Perhaps that is why they recruited Hampson during the off season, to lighten the workload for Maric…..hence decrease in SC output.

  181. Sarah says:

    Draft 2. Would appreciate some feedback. Thanks guys :)

    Def: Bartel, Mitchell, Hibberd, Reilly, McDonald, Fuller (Clurey, Battersby)

    Mids: Pendlebury, Barlow, Sloane, Liberatore, D Beams, Martin, Michie, Dunstan (O'Rourke, Honeychurch)

    Rucks: Grundy, Sandi (Currie, Brown)

    Fwds: Dangerfield, Wingard, Dixon, Parker, Hogan, Lennon (Taylor, Garlett)

    Please note, rookies are subject to change dependant on NAB form and round 1 teams.

    • SCMania says:

      Nice team, weak ruck though with risky on fields, two North Melbourne bench options who probably won't play much. Overall nice though.

    • Wombats says:

      I reckon your midfield is a bit soft, 2 rookies and a 1 gamer on the field might cost you.
      Fwds are great and Rielly is an astute call down back

      • Sarah says:

        Fair call re the midfield. I don't see where I can free up some more cash without compromising another line. Got to have a certain amount of cash cows anyway and the midfield is the best place for them. But thanks for your comments. As always though, no team is final until 5 minutes before the first bounce in round 1!!

  182. rhino says:

    Didn't ever think I would say this but anyone considering Jack Watts, thoughts on him if this is true and shows a bit of form during NAB cup
    http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-01-17/watts-embra

    • jimbotraralgon says:

      not at this stage. would have to show a major change in role and attitude in the preseason games to be considered.

      Even then his price at $411 is very diffcult for my team structure. He's neither here or there. not a cash generator nor is he a premium.

      Yes he could come good but I'm of the opnion its only 10/1. odds arent good.

      • throttlefinger says:

        Also Rhino, it's a bit trickier picking players from a wooden spoon-favored team. The SC points aren't always flowing as freely. Food for thought.

  183. jimbotraralgon says:

    Hi guys.

    Got a issue with my forward line.

    I cant decide on the dixon/lennon combo or the Titch/rohan double.

    dixon gives me a ruck back up to nicnat and sandi but dixon/lennon make it 5 round 8 in the forward line which is not good.

    I think dixon and titch will both increase by similiar this year but rohan is much more likely to play than lennon.

    titch and lennon gives me a 3-1-4 bye break down and a better balance for the byes across the team.

    • throttlefinger says:

      Hey JImbo. Struggle with this as well for the most of the same reasons. If Rohan looks good in NAB, I think this is a simple matter between him and Lennon (who I too doubt will play R1 after hearing the Crouching One's remarks). Between Dixon and Titch, that's a toss up. Even Dixon and Parker, who I've read has looked great in training too. And Swans have easier out of the gate draw (GWS, [email protected], Crows, Lions).

      If made to decide, I'd do Dixon/Rohan. Mostly due to limited ruc/fwd DPP so you wouldn't have to worry about that anymore. Oh, how many Mid DPP do you have in your forward line besides Danger? If only Danger, that may make me choose Titch.

      • jimbotraralgon says:

        can't afford dixon/rohan, about 5k short. that would be my preferred option.

        options would be too steal from other lines such as laidler in defense or mitchie in the mid. They are about the only ones up for negotiation at this stage till I start seeing games.

        throttle, side is:
        Mitchell, mcveigh, Dswallow, suckling, KK, LMcD (Laidler, Fuller)
        Gaz, Pendles, DBeams, Smurph, daisy, CBeams, polec, Jacky, (michie, JOR)
        NicNat, Sandi (longer, P Mitchell)
        Danger, Dusty, Buddy, *Titch*, *Rohan*, Kersten, (Taylor, Garlett)
        $18k

        • throttlefinger says:

          Ahhhhhhhhh. That Longer as R3 has been something I played with as well, Jimbo. And the reason you're a bit cash strapped. Not knocking it. But wondering if worth it from the jump. Certainly solves the Dixon as backup issue (and if Longer is striving for Saints #1 ruck may give you a fast track to bring Dixon in anyhow). And to your point, you could pick a cheaper reserve for Michie and Laidler (Morabito and Cutler)

          In other words, I think you have some flexibility that makes this a worthwhile structure.

          You know who I'm leaning towards bring in FWDs: Hunter on the doggies. Strong scores last season, Mid swing and $285K. Prefer him to Lamb. But having hard time working him into my Danger/Wingard/Buddy/Zorko line. Not sure yet.

    • throttlefinger says:

      Your question has me re-re-re-rethinking whether to do Dixon or Buddy as my F2. Thanks Jimbo.

      • jimbotraralgon says:

        I am willing to take a few punts this year. Buddy has a much bigger upside. Lock for me unless he looks disinterested preseason. Would love that ruck backup though.

        • throttlefinger says:

          Agree. Doing so many versions I keep trying to fool myself that Parker/Titch may be a nice gamble to save some bucks.

  184. throttlefinger says:

    Need some thoughts on sub $500K def. Ones I'm interested in for various reasons Hurn (favorable opening schedule), R. Henderson (capable of monster score), Reid (on the rise fwd DPP), Swallow (good price for strong mid swing) and Goodes (build off last year on emerging Doggies). Or any other names?

    Any help would be appreciated.

    • throttlefinger says:

      Harbrow is another. Good consistent scoring with the occasional ton. Rarely a stinker.

    • jimbotraralgon says:

      for me, I'm going Swallow. 3rd year. Often 3rd years have somewhat of a mini breakout (maybe 10 pts), I think he has the highest upside and the best chance for the most midfield time.

      Not yet convinced about Ricky's role at the crows this year. To quote the Barron, '

      During the first 10 rounds he was once again used in this swingman fashion, which saw him dropped after Rd 5 and averaging a measly 65.14 SC points over his first 7 games. However, once Brent Reilly went down with a shoulder dislocation in Rd 14 against the Gold Coast, Ricky was moved into that loose man in defence role that Reilly occupied and excelled. In his next 7 games playing down back his SC average jumped to 105.42.'

      So when looking at henderson, maybe the question is, where is Reilly at?

      And purely without any basis, just not much of a fan of Hurn although with Waters down again this might help his cause?

      • throttlefinger says:

        I had Hurn last year and the results weren't very satisfying. Yet his numbers are pretty good over the years. Has a strong kick to handball ratio. Thinking that with an easy starting schedule, he could come out the gate hard and keep it consistent. And you're right, with Waters out he should have more SC points to scoop up.

        Yep, that was my fear about Hendo. He may be someone to keep on the watch list to bring in after a couple rounds.

        You liking Swallow, huh? Nothing about him really stands out. But at that price, it may be worth a punt.

        Thanks for your thoughts, Jimbo. Much to chew on.

  185. throttlefinger says:

    Undervalue mids special. Thoughts where going right and what's doomed for beatdown street.

    DEF
    S.Mitch, Hanley, Hurn/Swallow, Docherty, L.McD, Fuller (Cutler, Battersby)

    MID
    Pendles, Cotch, JPK, Beams, Gaff, Daisy, Polec, Dunstan (Morabito, Garlett)

    RUC
    Minson, Sandi (Nankervis, Currie)

    FWD
    Danger, Dusty, Buddy, Zorko, L. Hunter, Blease (Taylor, Lennon)

    Cash: $90K (for trade wiggle room)

    • jimbotraralgon says:

      hey throttle.

      I'll be doing something similar outside of my league team, just for the overall and see what happens.

      In the Mids surely Claye Beams and Smurph might fit the definition? Mitch Clark up forward and Bock?

      or you looking at pretty much midfielders all round?

      • throttlefinger says:

        Clark and Bock are considerations as well, Jimbo. Like Beams and Murph too. Thinking the same for a non-league team. Have a separate Higginator file for more risky structures. Like this one but don’t love it. D3, M4-5 and F4-5 not feeling right.

        • jimbotraralgon says:

          dont do your head in mate.

          D Beams is a lock. Just think of the other ones as $ value place markers for now.

          Now step away from the side for 3 days, dont look at it at all…….then come back….things become clearer.

  186. Hutto says:

    Sam Jacobs reported that Matt Crouch picked up 15 touches in 20 mins during a match sim. Maybe a cheapie to watch?

    • jimbotraralgon says:

      i think I could pick up a dozen stats in 20 minutes when you do back to back centre bounce drills and spreads. I imagine they were concentrating on touching the footy. wouldn't imagine the tackle/pressure count would be too high.

      saying that…..i do like the boy…..maybe second half of the year….we need someone to be an upgrade target ;-)

  187. JJFYZZ says:

    Feeling good about this team so far.

    Here's the breakdown using The Higginator 2014 (You have a sensational tool Higgo)
    Player type: 50% Rookie, 13% Mid, 37% Premo
    Bye: Rnd 8 – 10 outs, Rnd 9 – 9 outs, Rnd 10 – 11 outs
    Trading freedom Def – 0, Mids – 10, Rucks – 1, Fwds – 2
    No team with more than 3 ins

    Here's the team

    Bcks: Walker, Mitchell, McVeigh, Bartel, K Kolodjashnij, L McDonald (M Fuller, Cutler)
    Mids: Pendles, Jobe, Cotchin, D Beams, Daisy, C Beams, D Sheed (Crouch, Towers)
    Rcks: Nic Nat, Sandi (Longer, Apeness)
    Fwds: Danger, Wingard, Dusty, Lewis, Rohan, L Taylor, Garlett (B Brown, Honeychruch)

    What do you think?

    JJFYZZ

  188. Rhino says:

    Ok now your ok I was assuming that Lewis was Jordan Lewis and you put him in your forward so i thought he was in midfield? Who is Lewis in forward line cause you got an extra there? Sorry mate don’t think you have overspent.

  189. JJFYZZ says:

    Serves me right for trying to do too much at once.

    Bcks: Walker, Mitchell, McVeigh, Bartel, K Kolodjashnij, L McDonald (M Fuller, Cutler)
    Mids: Pendles, Jobe, Cotchin, D Beams, Daisy, D TYSON, C Beams, D Sheed (Crouch, Towers)
    Rcks: Nic Nat, Sandi (Longer, Apeness)
    Fwds: Danger, Wingard, Dusty, Rohan, L Taylor, Garlett (B Brown, Honeychruch)

  190. Rhino says:

    Now I’m with you, great side love how you have all 4 big defenders that could be a winning move. Like the longer move to cover Sandi. Great Team.

  191. SCMania says:

    DEF: S. Mitchell – J. Bartel – J. McVeigh – M. Suckling – K. Koladjashnij – L. McDonald ( M. Fuller – T. Cutler )

    MID: S. Pendlebury – J. Selwood – T. Cotchin – M. Murphy – D. Beams – C. Beams – J. Martin – L. Dunstan ( J. O'Rourke – M. Crouch )

    RUC: P. Ryder – M. Leuenberger ( M. Apeness – F. Thurlow )

    FWD: P. Dangerfield – D. Martin – D. Zorko – J. Lamb – J. Billings – S. Kersten ( D. Garlett – L. Taylor )

    $16,800K left

    • throttlefinger says:

      Very nice team, SCMania. Can't find too much to comment on. Rucks is the only wild card but with Bellchambers out Ryder may be a great POD selection at the start. Have backups ready in case Billings and Kersten don't get the R1 call. 12 round 8 bye players so make sure you have a solid trade plan to combat that when it rears its ugly head.

      • SCMania says:

        Thanks rookies would have changed by round 1. Example: Kersten – Honeychurch.

        • throttlefinger says:

          Yeah, at this point I think we all have the same rotating rooks based on pre-NAB talk. Sure it will change again once NAB begins. And change again once R1 selects are made. Ahhh, the agony of waiting. I've done five versions based off two different structures just today. May need to take next week off.

  192. jimbotraralgon says:

    Nicnat might be going for surgery. https://soundcloud.com/sen1116/david-schwarz-on-n

    • Hutto says:

      Wow! He was already looking a sceptical choice given that he was training separately, but that's huge news! Big Cox could be a good ruck option if he's going it alone?

    • Liam says:

      Wow this is really big news, brings Cox into consideration. Also gives Lycett a huge oppurtunity at AFL level

    • jimbotraralgon says:

      If you guys are interested. The article to go with the sound bit is on the SEN website.

      Funny enough another site had nic returning with the main group today.

      Leave this in the unconfirmed category for now.

  193. Blueprime says:

    With the great insights from the Community last year was rapt to finish the season at 2901 in supercoach which was considerably better than the previous year. A big thankyou to the Master Jock, Higgo,Crouching and everyone who posted on the website. Your thoughtful comments and insights were invaluable. This year am aiming to be in the first 1000. With Jocks inspired leadership am certain to see most of you there.
    Team V2. Cap 11200. Be interested to read any comments.

    DEF Mitchell Hanley R Henderson Grimes
    Suckling L McDonald Cutler Fuller

    MID Pendlebury Cotchin M Murphy D Beams Chapman
    D Thomas Tyson C Beams Michie Polec

    RUC Ryder Sandilands Apeness Currie

    FWD Dangerfield Dixon L Parker Lamb
    Bock Rohan Broomhead L Taylor

    Cheers to all.

    • Wombats says:

      IMO an excellent Team.
      Obviously your sub 250K players will change depending on round 1 starts but as it stands it looks like a very high scoring team to me. Personally I don't think danger will score his price in the first 5 and I'm yet to be convinced that Hendo is a top 10 defender.

  194. Rhino says:

    Hey guys,

    Zorko or Parker?

    Thoughts would be great.

    • throttlefinger says:

      I've wrestled with this as well, Rhino. Decided on Zorko. And I think Zorko is a lock for me — even given I stayed with him last season to GREAT dissatisfaction. He's at the ripe age of 24. Is prone to some monster games 153. Other than that, Parker is on par with him in terms of career averages. On the Swans there are many other great players but Lions don't have that wonderful problem. Meaning, I think with new coach and being a focal point on the offense, he could put up some big numbers this season.

      But you can't go wrong either way. That's just my take, my man.

  195. PJ8 says:

    Can someone give me some info on Lobbe (PA). I see him named in many teams so far. I looked into it and see from 19 games last year he only had 5 over 100, he did avg 86 but $464,400 is a very awkward price to me.

    Is everyone expecting breakout year? Am I missing something?

    • @taylorwoof says:

      He finished the year off well (ave last 6-7 games or there about's was good) and seems to be Port's No.1 Ruck…..few reasons why people are selecting.

      Personally i couldn't select him if you paid me…..but that's just me.

  196. Give It a Go says:

    G'day comminity, just another version of on going versions, ahhhhhhhh

    Give us a heads up on what you think, here goes

    Def
    Bartel, McVeigh, Hanley, Suckling, KK, McDonald, Cutler and Fuller

    Mid
    Pendelbury, JK, Cotchin, Liberatore, SS, Beams D, Xavier E, Dunstan L, Taylor L and Garlett D

    Rucks
    Ryder, Sandilands, Thurlow F and Naismith

    Forwards
    Dangerfield, Dixon, Zorko, Hunter L, McCarthy C, Markworth D, Reynolds L and Honeychurch

    Have $34 left, lot depend,s on the rookies playing R1, tell us what you think

    Cheers

  197. Benb says:

    hey guys this is my second year of supercoach last year i came around 13,000 I was just wondering what you think about my team DEf J. grimes , S. mitchell, P. hanley, M. suckling, K.Kolodjashnij, L. mcdonold, M. fuller, T.cutler. MID J. watson, S. pendelbury, J. selwood, D. beams, M. grigg, D. thomas, C. beams, J. martian, L. dunstan, A. morabito, RUCK N.naitanui, A. sandilands, T. nankervis, D. currie, FOR P. dangerfield, D. martian, J.roughead, J. caddy, A. falsolo, M. honeychurch, T. lewis, D. garlett 127,000 left please replie where you think i might come and what changes i should make by the way I am 12

  198. yurkins says:

    here is one I’d been tinkering with:
    Bartel, Jimmy (MID) $572,500, Mitchell, Sam (MID) $562,000, Hanley, Pearce (MID) $516,200,
    Guthrie, Camerson $317,900, Suckling, Matt $312,200
    Fuller, Matthew $117,300, Cutler, Tom $117,300, Langford, Will $123,900

    Pendlebury, Scott $683,100, Ablett, Gary $695,000, Watson, Jobe $601,300
    Beams, Dayne $497,200, Thomas, Dale $341,800, Beams, Claye $183,400, Dunstan, Luke $132,300, Martin, Jack $222,300, O’Rourke, Jonathan $123,900, Taylor, Lewis (FWD) $117,300

    Ryder, Patrick $486,400, Jacobs, Sam $460,200
    Nankervis, Toby $117,300, Apeness, Michael (FWD) $137,300

    Dangerfield, Patrick (MID) $609,000, Franklin, Lance $487,700, Robinson, Mitch (MID) $434,600
    Chapman, Paul (MID) $464,400, Lennon, Ben $162,300
    Honeychurch, Mitch (MID) $117,300, Thurlow, Fraser (RUC) $118,400, Garlett, Dayle (MID) $117,300

    $50K left.
    I see suckling, Guthrie and Robinson as mid pricers able to gain 10-15 avg points enabling upgrades to premos in form.

  199. Disco Stu says:

    Defenders

    Jimmy Bartel [GEE] [MID]$572,500 Shannon Hurn [WCE]$472,000

    David Swallow [GCS] [MID]$429,400 Jack Watts [MEL] [FWD]$411,100

    Matt Suckling [HAW]$312,200Luke McDonald [NTH] [MID]$182,300

    Jeremy Laidler [SYD]$161,800Matthew Fuller [WBD]$117,300

    Midfielders

    Trent Cotchin [RIC]$572,000Marc Murphy [CAR]$498,300

    Dayne Beams [COL]$497,200Andrew Gaff [WCE]$383,500

    Dale Thomas [CAR]$341,800Clinton Young [COL]$243,800

    Jack Martin [GCS]$222,300Dom Tyson [MEL]$216,800

    Claye Beams [BRL]$183,400Viv Michie [MEL]$172,600

    Rucks

    Will Minson [WBD]$616,600Aaron Sandilands [FRE]$310,700

    Fraser Thurlow [ESS] [FWD]$118,400Toby Nankervis [SYD]$117,300

    Forwards

    Patrick Dangerfield [ADE] [MID]$609,000Lance Franklin [SYD]$487,700

    Paul Chapman [ESS] [MID]$464,400Jack Darling [WCE]$413,300

    Mitch Clark [MEL]$249,200 Nathan Bock [GCS]$196,900

    Gary Rohan [SYD]$176,200Dayle Garlett [HAW] [MID]$117,300

    Looking for too much love?

  200. Sando22 says:

    Hi All,

    Any help or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
    Have 13 blokes with the bye in Round 8 which bothers me but trying hard to include a few DPP for a bit of flexibility.

    DEF: J Bartel, P Hanley, H Shaw, R Shaw, K Koladashnij, L McDonald (T Cutler, M Fuller)

    MID: S Pendlebury, J Selwood, S Mitchell, L Hodge, D Beams, J Martin, D Sheed, A Morabito (M Honeychurch, D Garlett)

    RUC: B Grundy, A Sandilands (D Currie, T Nankervis)

    FWD: P Dangerfield, D Martin, C Wingard, L Franklin, A Fasolo, G Rohan (D Menzel, L Taylor)

    • Wombats says:

      Hi Sando,
      Love your forward line.
      You probably know that Selwood is having surgery this week and wont play round 1 so you will have changed that already. I think you should also re-visit your backline, you've only got 3 guaranteed starters.

      • Sando22 says:

        Thanks for the advice Wombats. Much appreciated. Yeah just heard heard about Selwood so have jumbled things around a little. Thoughts?

        DEF: J Bartel, P Hanley, H Shaw, M Suckling, K Koladashnij, L McDonald (T Cutler, M Fuller)

        MID: S Pendlebury, J Watson, S Mitchell, M Murphy, D Beams, D Thomas, J Martin, A Morabito (M Crouch, L Dunstan)

        RUC: B Grundy, A Sandilands (D Currie, T Nankervis)

        FWD: P Dangerfield, D Martin, C Wingard, L Franklin, G Rohan, D Garlett (M Honeychurch, L Taylor)

        61k left in the bank also.

  201. Wombats says:

    DUSTY will be a defender
    http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-01-24/dusty-the-d

    That is going to kill his supercoach potential
    Hahahahahaha

    • throttlefinger says:

      Oh man, will that. Although as a Tiges fan, I'm happy to hear that.

      • WombatsFC says:

        Actually throttle they might be turning him into an andy walker type so he could increase his output by 10. Would also mean a different job for ellis or houli though.

        • throttlefinger says:

          Yeah, worked well for Bartel as well. With his engine and boot, think it could mean big SC points. We'll see. Was already going to wait to bring in. Use as upgrade.

          yeah, I was thinking of adding Ellis. Not sure if this will aid or hamper his game. Want him in my side because he's a player.

  202. Michael says:

    BACKS:
    Mitchell, Sam (MID) $562,000
    Bartel, Jimmy (MID) $572,500
    Hanley, Pearce (MID) $516,200
    Suckling, Matt $312,200
    Kolodjashnij, Kade $197,300
    McDonald, Luke (MID) $182,300
    Fuller, Matthew $117,300
    Laidler, Jeremy $161,800
    MIDS:
    Ablett, Gary $695,000
    Liberatore, Tom $576,200
    Beams, Dayne $497,200
    Murphy, Marc $498,300
    Thomas, Dale $341,800
    Martin, Jack $222,300
    Tyson, Dom $216,800
    Michie, Viv $172,600
    Morabito, Anthony $123,900
    Polec, Jared $172,600
    RUCKS:
    Sandilands, Aaron $310,700
    Grundy, Brodie $363,300
    Nankervis, Toby $117,300
    Apeness, Michael (FWD) $137,300
    FORWARDS:
    Dangerfield, Patrick (MID) $609,000
    Franklin, Lance $487,700
    Zorko, Dayne (MID) $447,200
    Wingard, Chad (MID) $531,800
    Billings, Jack (MID) $207,300
    Bock, Nathan $196,900
    Rohan, Gary $176,200
    Taylor, Lewis (MID) $117,300

    happy with my forwards and defenders, but with $159,700 left in the bank should I upgrade say Grundy to Nic Nat or look to strengthen my midfield a bit more?

    • TheBIGShot says:

      hey Michael pretty hard to fault, though not much POD. My only thoughts would be on mid rookies, I'd be looking to have at least one (maybe 2) cheaper rookie (maybe move L.Taylor who is DPP into the mids and maybe put gartlett in the fwd line?) and upgrade maybe Zorko or Libber? (libber to Watson who no one is picking this year, Zorko to roughie or the Hoff? )

      On nic nat, I'd be looking at minson or goldie rather than dogdog who has had interrupted preseason. Or go for Sam Jacobs who carried an ankle last year and will return to form this season for mine.

  203. TheScorpions123 says:

    What are your thoughts on Kade's brother Jake Kolodjashnij? I know he might not get many games at Geelong , but is it worth giving him a chance? please give it some thought , anyway here is my team , it will definitely change so don't be afraid to poke holes in it.

    DEF: A.Walker , S.Mitchell (MID) , P.Hanley (MID) , K,Kolodjashnij , T.Cutler , M.Fuller ( J.Kolodjashnij , T.Langdon )

    MID: G.Ablett , T.Liberatore , P.Dangerfield (FWD) , J.Bartel (DEF) , T.Cotchin , M.Murphy , J.Martin , J.Aish ( A.Morabito , M.Honeychurch (FWD) )

    RUC: N.Naitanui , T.Nankervis ( B.Brown , D.Currie )

    FWD: B.Harvey (MID) , D.Martin (MID) , L.Franklin , D.Zorko (MID) , J.Hogan , L.Taylor (MID) ( D.Garlett , S.Kersten )

  204. WombatsFC says:

    The Dreamteam opened today vastly different pricing structure and interface has changed. You can create your own jumper in photoshop and upload it which is fun.

    • throttlefinger says:

      Was thinking of doing AFL Fantasy this year but think I will lose focus on SC. You do both, Wombats?

      • WombatsFC says:

        Good choice mate it's crap. A single interface for desktop, tablet & phone that has been designed specifically for touchscreens. It's like html5 and CSS3 were never invented.
        Plus after a zillion years with the same team name I pre-registered the day I received the email and when I logged in today they've called my team Wombats-2, FC.

        Shouldn't you be working mate?
        Where in USA are you?

        • throttlefinger says:

          New York City. Just starting my Friday.

          Good to know about DT. Just keep focus on my two SC leagues. Sure that will give me enough fits. Thanks, Wombats.

          • WombatsFC says:

            Seriously?
            I played for the NY Magpies in 2001 and lived on Park Ave south between 19th & 20th Streets.

            Have you been to any Magpies functions?

            • throttlefinger says:

              Ha! No way! What's the NY Magpies? (I'll look up). I work on Park Ave S and 26th. Live in Brooklyn.

              No I haven't. I'm a Tigers fan and silent GWS supporter (started watching footy again when they entered the league so my aussie buddy said naturally that's the team I should root for). Where are Pies functions held?

            • WombatsFC says:

              They have a great Australia Day Event
              http://nyfooty.com/site/

  205. Ash says:

    Hey guys any feedback on my team?
    Def: Mitchell, hibberd, swallow, seedsman, McDonald, koladaninsji cutler, fuller
    Mids: Pendles, Cotchin, ziebell, Murphy, beams, Martin, aish, polec, dunstan, Hartlett
    Ruck: minson, longer, appeness, nankervis
    Fwd: dangerfield, wingard, Parker, Dixon, lamb, Taylor, kennedyharris, honey church

    Thanks guys

    • WombatsFC says:

      Remember Pendles v Crowley round 1

      IMO you need another premium defender and should probably only rely on 2 rookies at the most in any position especially the mids (most points scored here).

      Apart from that I like your team; I also think cotchin is going to start like a bull and Murph & Beams will dominate. You could also consider Thomas or Carrazzo from Carlton as underpriced midfielders who will score well and go up in price (probably as much as Martin in the first 3-weeks

    • theazzyg says:

      Seedsman just had an injury set back so i would watch for when he returns

  206. WombatsFC says:

    Hi Community.
    I overcame my paranoia and finally registered with a discussion thingy. Sadly my name 'Wombats' had been taken so I've had to add the FC.
    No Jock the 'FC' is not an anagram for how Adelaide supporters describe Kurt Tippett it means Fat Chicks. Us Wombats are a bit chunky ourselves and we like a bit of cushion when we're pushin if ya know what I mean.

    Got a new Jumper this Year feedback appreciated.

  207. WombatsFC says:

    I'm considering starting Ablett & Pendlebury and I was worried about Crowley's influence on Pendle last year (96) Pies have Freo, Swans, Cats first up.
    So, I checked l/y and discovered he scored 119 & 150 against the Swans and 118 against the cats . Plus, he now averages 109 against Freo and 115 against the cats but only 98 against Sydney.
    If he scores his average against the opponents in his first 3 games he'll only average 107.
    What impact will an ave of 107 after 3 rounds have on his price?

    • throttlefinger says:

      Gotta tell ya Wombats, I'm having a hard time figuring out M1-2. My mind tells me that Gazza-Pendles 1-2 is the way to go. Steady scorers and don't have to overthink Captain each week, esp with the loop.

      But your numbers (as well as their prices) are giving me fits, man. I got Gazza Round 6 and Pendles Round 5 last season. Conventional thinking is that every round you leave out one of the other, you're missing out on easy SC points (as well as reliable captain scores).

      107 will have an effect, as his value is based around him averaging 125 or so. Not good. But will Crowley be in full form that early?

      • yurkins says:

        If GAJ and pendles average 107 each for the first few weeks I'Il bare me bum in bourke st boys! :O
        And whilst that would no doubt be the highlight of our SC season 2014 I don't think it will occur.

        I LOVE the stats and previous games against meta data analysis ideas but it begs to be overturned and is, particularly with a solid preseason and early season game with a fit Elite player of the ilk of GAJ and pendles.

        Leave them out at first bounce at your own peril.

        • throttlefinger says:

          It is probably too risky of move to leave them both out, Yurkins. Toying with the notion but it may be time to put the toys away.

  208. You may even be surprised at how much you are willing to tax
    vat belgium others quickly but seem to neglect their own
    tax concessions. It was From the bank, back To the Directors Loan Account.
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  209. SCMania says:

    Ryder or Leuenberger?

  210. scooter says:

    Hi guys Wat do you think as I’m struggling to get a straight answer from my 3 year old daughter leuy Mundy and Sam Shaw or h Mac gaz and suckling do have Dixon in fwd with thurlow in r4 so coverage is there

    • taylorwoof says:

      As much as i'm a David Mundy fan, i'd go the latter – G.A, Suckling & McIntosh.

    • KLo says:

      Question is, who is your captain round 1, and why?
      Leuy and Mundy safe, Shaw back from injury.
      Gaz superstar. HMac and Suckling back from injury.
      How quick the scores return from injury vs Superstar captain lock.

      • taylorwoof says:

        With the 'split round' there are plenty of options for Round 1 Captain. Boils down to what players you have in your initial squad, and whether you have the option to use the VC Loophole – if one of your players doesn't start Round 1.

        No doubt a popular option will be VC on Pendles/Swan/Beams/Barlow/Fyfe on the Friday night, then option to roll with the loophole or slap the C on Gaz the next night.

  211. Blueprime says:

    Gaz

  212. Steve says:

    Afternoon all,

    Here's my team – rookies to be monitored over the NAB Cup etc.

    DEF : Mitchell, Bartel, McVeigh, McKenzie, Kolodjashnij, McDonald (Laidler, Fuller)

    MID : Pendlebury, Dangerfield, Cotchin, Murphy, Polec, J Martin, Tyson, Michie (Dunstan, Honeychurch)

    RUC : Mumford, Sandilands (Nankervis, Thurlow)

    FWD : Martin, Franklin, Wingard, Gunstan, Billings, Kersten (Garlett Taylor)

    Cheers,

    Steve

    • yurkins says:

      OK
      Concerns; McKenzie & Billings (injury issue) Use money to bolster your mid line.
      I prefer Thurlow in the fwd line to offer a DPP to that line to ruck.
      Why do you have Danger in the mids? FWD lock.
      Really hone your eye for low price rookies. Particularity in the mids.
      Risky mummy and Sandi for me but could be made to eat those words.

  213. WombatsFC says:

    I reckon I've locked the backline (bookies pending) and 4 of the mids the rest is still pretty flexible

    DEF: Bartell, Mitchell, Hodge, Hanley, Suckling, rook,rook,rook
    MID: Gaz, Pendle, Rockliff, Cotchin, Murphy, Beams, Thomas -rook,rook,rook
    RUC: Grundy, Sandi, rook rook
    Fwd: Dixon, Buddy, Vardy,?????

    • throttlefinger says:

      REALLY stout back line, Wombats. Man, you're not taking any chances. Can't knock that.

      Like the Rockliff call as POD at M3. He's a gun. M1-7 is solid as steel. Concerns are you need a solid R3 (Longer would be cheapest). Even though you have Dixon, he's the anchor of your forwards. Sandi gets hurt and you swing him…who is going to replace those points up front? Apeness? Thurlow? Think that the line that rucks need to be secure from the start is right. Or I agree with it. Lack of DPPs for that.

      Also, Vardy as F3 is a bit of a risk. Parker or Titch or even Zorko. Suggest another mid swing would can bring you some points. Or sacrificing one of your mids to bulk up your forwards. I've been looking at Hunter or Lamb to help fill in the rest. Other than Hogan, don't think they'll be lots of R1 rooks on the field. Never know. Think until NAB, we won't know how many in any position will get chosen. I'm going conservative by planning only 6 on the field. Probably change. But plan for worst, hope for best.

      Hope my ramblings help, Wombats.

      • WombatsFC says:

        Thanks Throttle.
        Perhaps after a few hours at the NY maggies Australia Day celebration you'll come home and turn on the computer and appraise my team again whilst marinating in Coopers ale, Four'n'Twenty Pies and Rosella Tomato sauce. Whilst you are in this Australiana induced trance you may have an epiphany and see my team as the SC equivalent of GAJ. Or you might just spew on the keyboard:-)

        You'll see from my other responses that I believe that there was only 1 hole and i covered that by dropping Cotchin for an underpriced mid/for.

        • throttlefinger says:

          HAHA. I do love Coopers ale and love the sound of the other two, Wombats. I'll try to check it out. Do the NY Magpies have a site?

          Love your confidence in the lineup and Vardy. With the ruck setup, strong plummers will be needed. I'm about 80% confident in my structure. Sure it will all get shattered to bits once NAB starts and R1 selects are named.

            • throttlefinger says:

              Nice! Thanks. If I can wiggle away from my Brooklyn home tonight, I'll swing by.

              Did you ever go to the Sheepstation in Park Slope? That where I usually go to watch the GF.

              • WombatsFC says:

                Nah the only time I left the Island was to go my GF's place at Bedford hills. I had a charmed life my best mate was CEO of BOSS Models and my flatmate was a former lead singer 1970's NYC Glam Rock band Madison Eyes. I was out 7 nights VIP everywhere and never paid for anything it's no wonder I only played 1 game for the maggies.

                • throttlefinger says:

                  Yes my man, that is a charmed life. And the best way to experience NYC…at maximum speed and minimal cost. Left those years about 10 years ago. Kids and family wife strips out all your top gears. Doubt I would be functionally otherwise.

                  • throttlefinger says:

                    Congrats Wombats. You've shaken me out of my Gaz/Pendles stupor. And honestly, if I'd been knocking back the lagers while doing the reconsidering rather than at work, the silly notion wouldn't have been broached.

                    Gaz/Pendles/JPK/Beams/Shuey/Daisy/rook/rook or Polec.

                    You've earned your Coopers for the evening, my man (or your 8th Coopers).

            • WombatsFC says:

              It looks like a much smaller event these days. We used to hire a pier on the river and have a day/night party with a live band, DJ and bbq. Also used to sell out the Park Ave Country Club for the Grand Final telecast, that's probably held in a diner nowadays.

              • throttlefinger says:

                No THAT sounds better than what's going on tonight…although it's cold as a witch's nip right now. Will need to check it out next GF…although hard to live the B past midnight. Old man now, Wombats.

    • taylorwoof says:

      I think that lineup may leave you very skimp for spending on the rookies once they present themselves in NAB Series…..unless they're all bargain basement price (we could only wish! hahaha).

      Also as Throttle mentioned below, if Sandi goes down (no mozz) and you swing Dixon into the rucks….then you'll be left quite exposed in the Forward with Buddy as F1 and Vardy F2.

      As much as i love that juggernaut midfield! Perhaps trim it down a little and inject some more coin into the forward line?

      • WombatsFC says:

        Thanks for the advice Woofie but I reckon I've found the perfect mix of rookies based on last years performances, list changes and subsequent team requirements; hence my apprehension to post them on the interweb thing.
        I was a bit light so I swapped Cotchin for a $450-$500k (currently Chappy) to give me a few $ in the bank.

    • jimbotraralgon says:

      Hey wombat mate.

      Love the aggressive defense and mid lineup.

      But just doing the maths you only have like 2 million for your last 13 players @ $150k approx. Thst cuts it a bit thin mate.

      • WombatsFC says:

        Hey Jimbo,
        I can't give away all my secrets mate but it don't cut too thin if you ignore poor investment options like 18 y.o. unproven players in their first year who cost more than players who have been in the system for a year or two & have been playing senior football at a high level.
        They love Vardy at the Cats for a very good reason and I think you'll see why this year. It's his first full pre-season, there's no Jpod, and THawk has a prolapsed disc that could debilitate him at any moment. If sandi goes down before the intended trade Vardy can cover for him and I'll bring in a Caddy or Clark or something .

        I have swapped Cotchin for Chapman atmo but could be any of 4 around that price.
        The game is won & lost on setting a base and trading so an extra 80k in bank will come in handy

  214. wallsa says:

    DEF: J. McVeigh, S. Mitchell, K. Simpson, K. Kolodjashnij, L. McDonald, J. Tippett (T. Cutler, M. Fuller)
    MID: S. Pendlebury, T. Rockliff, T. Liberatore, M. Murphy, D. Beams, J. Martin, D. Sheed, L. Dunstan (A. Morabito, J. O'Rourke)
    RUC: T. Goldstein, N. Naitanui (F. Thurlow, T. Nankervis)
    FWD: P. Dangerfield, D. Martin, L. Franklin, L. Parker, B. Lennon, D. Garlett (J. Kennedy-Harris, L. Taylor)
    CASH LEFT: $2,400

    Any feedback appreciated.

    • jimbotraralgon says:

      Nice side mate.

      I will say to all that ask….pick gary. He will be top 3. I know the money looks tempting but you dont make the points back spending it elsewhere.

      Ok, enough if the rant.

      Might be one rookie too many in defence perhaps?

    • WombatsFC says:

      Hi Wallsa I have to agree with Jimbo about GAJ. Maybe you can re-think your rucks and pinch a few dollars.
      I have the philosophy that 'rookies are for making dollars not for scoring points' so whenever I see more than 3 in the best 22 I think points are being leaked.

    • ShinbonerSpirit says:

      Joel Tippett is rookie listed.

  215. jimbotraralgon says:

    Version 6. Welcome jack darling and zorko (on jock’s advice….not convinced)

    I am $400 short of getting michie rather than dunstan. Ideas?

    Def: J.McVeigh S.Mitchell D.Swallow M.Suckling K.Kolodjashnij L.McDonald ( J.Laidler M.Fuller )Mid: G.Ablett S.Pendlebury M.Murphy D.Beams D.Thomas J.Martin C.Beams J.Polec ( L.Dunstan J.O’Rourke )Ruc: N.Naitanui A.Sandilands ( F.Thurlow T.Nankervis )Fwd: P.Dangerfield C.Dixon L.Franklin D.Zorko J.Darling S.Kersten ( L.Taylor D.Garlett )Salary Cap Remaining: $46,500

    • WombatsFC says:

      Yeah I reckon Jock mighta been gettin worried after seeing all the brilliant teams we're posting here, so he's throwing up hot coals like Zorko & Darling.

      Nice team mate but I don't see the point in Swallow why not just spend the extra 75k and get Hodgy and an extra 20 points? I'm not convinced NicNat will last as long as Sandi so you should have a look at Bellchambers or another ruc/for who will get a regular game.
      Dangerfield: Last year I said no no no he ALWAYS starts like a 1920's tractor but I eventually succumbed to the peer pressure and after 3 he ave 84 and dropped 53k follwed by another 15k the next week. So I say dump Danger and grab chappy then after week 4 make the even swap.

      • throttlefinger says:

        Agree with Wombats about NicNat. Swallow I think may be a worthwhile risk given the GCS glut of mids gaining attention. Could bring in some strong scores. Hodge is certainly a safer bet.

        I'm planning on Suckling not coming out firing hot. Thinking of using Buntine instead. Limited play but did well when he got in there. Plus, GWS has a less than daunting start. With Heath grabbing most of the attention back there he could throw some nice score up. Enough to make for a quick, easy upgrade before the Giants embark on another adventure to the spoon.

        Wombats' Danger theory is certainly backed up. But I think with Van Berlo out, he's going to come out with a little more purpose. But the Batter's plan could be a very cunning starting move.

    • KLo says:

      Cutler for Laidler in the Backs frees up the cash for Michie for Dunstan.

  216. WombatsFC says:

    OK so what is the community opinion of the VOMITRON (Bleasey)?
    Will he start? Will he be subbed? Will he be the first player that gets suspended for spewing on his opponent?
    I reckon he's a guaranteed starter under Roosy, he loves a bloke that runs until he spews and no one does it as much as Sam.

    • taylorwoof says:

      Agree re Roosy's affection for the red head. The kid can play too, just needs confidence & backing from the coaching staff and regular games (Play him Paul).

      Watching him closely in the NAB Series first. With the lack of obvious fwd rookies, he's on my radar. Also carries DPP.

    • throttlefinger says:

      Funny you ask that (and funny as hell how you said it). I was rooting around for recent info on the Bleaser. Nuts. Good numbers in the past. Have him slotted as an F6 option. Sincerely hope Roos is alchemist and can turn his spew into SC gold.

  217. SCMania says:

    Just a few questions to finalise my team for the moment.

    Which 2 out of Mitchell, Bartel, McVeigh?

    Is Jack Martin a must have?

    Jack or Watson?

    Morabito or Crouch?

    Kennedy-Harris or Honeychurch?

    Is having Kersten, Billings and Garlett on the field altogether too risky?

    That's about it. Cheers!

    • KLo says:

      Almost all questions are difficult to answer before NAB and Round 1 selections, but here goes:
      1. Mitchell and Bartel. McVeigh question marks over 2013 being an outlier year
      2. J Martin is not a must have. Research scores to enable price rise comparable to cheaper rookies.
      3. Watson has less (internal) competition compared to Jack, but both worthy
      4. Morabito unlikely to play early rounds and Matt Crouch is a lottery also. Brad Crouch on the other hand is a corker.
      5. Kennedy-Harris and Honeychurch are both less than 50% chance of early action (monitor NAB).
      6. see point 5, though Billings probably higher %.

      • SCMania says:

        Cheers KLo, I already have my NAB Cup Watchlist all ready, it will definitely change things up but thanks for the advice for now.

        • taylorwoof says:

          1. I agree with KLo
          2. Not sure re Jack Martin. Though i have him starting in my midfield. I think it's better to have him in there, and then if he doesn't appear to be living up to the hype….then replacing him with a cheaper rookie will be easy campesee. Leaving him out, then having to squeeze him in later if he performs well could be quite difficult.
          3. It'd lean to Watson>Jack, but both valid selections in any midfield. I have time for both of them.
          4. I'd lean M.Crouch>Morabito. Morabito coming off numerous knee op's and trying to break into a Grand Final side. M.Crouch may get early opportunity with the likes of Van Berlo sidelined.
          5. Don't know much about both Kennedy-Harris or Honeychurch, so i'll pass on that question.
          6. At the moment starting all three risky? I think so, yet it is early doors. Being a hawks supporter i think Jed Anderson is in front of Gartlett to get the early games in Rioli's absence due to suspension.

  218. Jai says:

    DEF: J Bartel, J McVeigh, P Hanley, M Suckling, K Kolodjashnij, L McDonald, (M Fuller, T Cutler)

    MID: K Jack, N Fyfe, T Cotchin, M Murphy, D Beams, D Thomas, J Martin, J Aish (A Morabito, D Garlett)

    RUC: T Goldstein, (& one of F Thurlow, M Apeness or T Nankervis)

    FWD: P Dangerfield, D Martin, J Roughead, L Franklin, B Lennon, L Taylor (M Honeychurch, S Kersten)

    A few questions/points:

    Was tossing up between J McVeigh and S Mitchell – feel like this may be Mitchells last season and output may drop? (Could be wrong there) but McVeigh has been consistent (hasnt averaged below 93 since 2007)…

    Rucks – will Thurlow, Apeness or Nankervis get much game time early? If so, which one? I was thinking Thurlow now that Bellchambers is out for a few months…

    Will S Kersten or B Lennon get more gametime in the first 8 or so rounds?

    Also interested to hear thoughts on starting with Morabito in the side? Or should we wait until a few rounds in as a downgrade target?

    • PJ8 says:

      Nice Jai, really like the PODs in the Midfield. No Pendles, GAJ, Selwood, Watson (which most are selecting). Having Jack, Fyfe, Cotchin instead may get you ahead of everyone else.

      Im going with Mitchell rather than McVeigh, but much of a muchness at the start of the year, I think both will be in the top 6 DEF's so will be in most sides by the end.

      With answers to the other 2 questions, its going to just be 'wait and see' watch the NAB games closely for all these rookies.

      Morabito – Lyon has already come out and said he will play WAFL at the start of the season

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  220. AGH says:

    Hey guys. Here's my team. Any feedback is much appreciated

    DEF: Bartel, Hanley, Henderson, Docherty, K.Kolodjashnij, McDonald (Fuller, Cutler)

    MID: Ablett, Pendlebury, J.Selwood, Rockliff, Murphy, D.Beams, J.Martin, Aish (Dunstan, Morabito)

    RUCK: Naitanui, Sandilands (B.Brown, Nankervis)

    FWD: Dangerfield, Dixon, Franklin, Apeness, Markworth, Taylor (Garlett, Honeychurch)

    Thanks

    • taylorwoof says:

      Hey AGH!

      My only concern would be Apeness & Markworth as starters, other than that appears a very nice team. A very strong midfield. Rucks are potentially a risk, both coming back from injuries…but i believe you have to take a risk in one department and for you it's the rucks. Few small POD's in Henderson & Rocky.

      Good job mate!

  221. sean says:

    here is my team(first draft) any thoughts?

    Hanley, Pearce (MID) $516,200
    Bartel, Jimmy (MID) $572,500
    Grimes, Jack (MID) $436,500
    Swallow, David (MID) $429,400
    Docherty, Sam $285,000
    Fuller, Matthew $117,300
    Kolodjashnij, Kade $197,300
    McDonald, Luke (MID) $182,300
    MIDFIELDERS
    Dangerfield, Patrick (FWD) $609,000
    Cotchin, Trent $572,000
    Rockliff, Tom $591,500
    Thomas, Dale $341,800
    Beams, Dayne $497,200
    Gaff, Andrew $383,500
    Ablett, Gary $695,000
    Tyson, Dom $216,800
    Dunstan, Luke $132,300
    Morabito, Anthony $123,900
    RUCKS
    Sandilands, Aaron $310,700
    Longer, Billy $279,100
    Nankervis, Toby $117,300
    Brown, Ben (FWD) $117,300
    FORWARDS
    Riewoldt, Nick $567,100
    Franklin, Lance $487,700
    Rohan, Gary $176,200
    Zorko, Dayne (MID) $447,200
    Caddy, Josh (MID) $325,300
    Garlett, Dayle (MID) $117,300
    Kersten, Shane $123,900
    Taylor, Lewis (MID) $117,300

    • yurkins says:

      plenty of punts on mid priced players here. Grimes Docherty Franklin, caddy zorko Thomas beams. Perhaps it's genius perhaps too risky, its your call.

  222. SCMania says:

    Brandon Ellis, Dale Thomas, Dayne Zorko or Andrew Gaff?

    • throttlefinger says:

      I'm leaning towards Ellis, SCMania. Daisy I'm may slot in as well. Tiges man so I may be biased, but think he's rearing to go gangbusters this season.

      • SCMania says:

        Cheers.

        • throttlefinger says:

          Cotchin will be upping his game. Martin will be floating around the defense. 3rd object of attention will be Lids. Meaning, Ellis won't ever get a tag. Daisy will get attention. Zorko, who knows if he's gonna play mid or forward. Gaff…maybe but Shuey would be a better (and more expensive) option.

          Right now I'm highly considering him my M5.

          • taylorwoof says:

            What are your thoughts on Shuey guys?

            Over the past few days i have been toying with the idea of starting him over M.Murphy. Though i keep finding my hand is being a little forced to select Murphy due to his reduced starting price…..

            • taylorwoof says:

              Dale Thomas has been in & out of my side quite a few times SCMania.

              To me, he's one that solely depends on what type of midfield structure you plan on running with. Currently i'm with a 4-0-4 midfield (but no doubt this will changes plenty of times pre Rnd 1).

            • throttlefinger says:

              Shuey has been in and out of my side. What I like: favorable WCE draw. Healthy team. Guy can ball. What I don't: Unpredictable. Could come back in same form.

              Murph is not that much more expensive, but I'm resisting because I don't think he's going to come out bonkers, T-Woof. Plus, I think everyone will have him in their side. Don't mind that we all have Beams. But Murph too is a bit too much of a Xerox.

              • taylorwoof says:

                Unpredictability, yes! That's what worries me. Ability to go bang 130 one week, then down to 65-70 the next. Smaller standard deviation the better. Though that was a reason why i didn't go with Rocky last season and i got that one wrong.

                "Plus, I think everyone will have him in their side. Don't mind that we all have Beams. But Murph too is a bit too much of a Xerox."

                Couldn't agree more Throttle! Hence, the reason why i'm looking at other possible options. As Higgo would say "Like the Lemmings" Hahahaha….

                • throttlefinger says:

                  Right now here's who I'm considering for that "Murph" position: Shuey, Treloar, Crouch and Ellis. Leaning toward Brandon. May even try to work in two of them. Think they could result in quick upgrades, which may be needed if rooks don't deliver on value by R7.

                  • taylorwoof says:

                    All four are very talented, any of them breaking out this season wouldn't surprise me at all! All valid picks i believe. Brad Crouch, that kid is going to be a star!

                    I also looked at the likes of a Toby Greene & Dylan Shiel as well. If Toby has learnt to shake a tag, he could be a steal. Averaged 94.5 in his first year (2012), then as a result of his impressive debut year he copped heavy tags last year. His SC average was heavily affected averaging 73.1. I guess you could put Andy Gaff in the same category. But those two probably better M5 options than M4.

                    • throttlefinger says:

                      Shiels I haven't been too taken with but agree with you on Greene. Last year was a big learning experience. Could be a nice pick if he shows it in preseason. Already have two GWS on my team (Buntine and Lamb). They will be better but not good enough to keep for the year. All GWS players should be seen as upgrade material. Maybe Treloar is the exception. Mummy if he's owning the #1 ruck in pre-Pyke season fashion.

                      Have been slotting Gaff in the M5 area. That is if Daisy doesn't pan out. Not sure if I have the plums to put two $300K players in the lineup.

                    • taylorwoof says:

                      Agree with you there, probably only other two would be Ward & Shaw (but won't be going near either).

                      Hahaha…..that would require 'Massive' Plums!

                      Starting a Toby Greene or Andy Gaff over Dale Thomas (Mr Popular), and Thomas flops & one of the former shine….would be a very nice leg up on most of the competition.

                    • throttlefinger says:

                      I agree! And if Daisy looks stellar, can make a corrective trade quickly.

                      Been toying with Grigg as well. Only 5 games last season but a nice 85 av. Worth a look. Need to be sold on Gaff. Greene wouldn't be as hard as I think he won't be getting tagged as hard as last year. We'll see.

          • yurkins says:

            Loving both in my mids at present. Ellis and Daisy.

          • Dools says:

            Sorry t jump in
            but are youse 2 seriously thinking of missing out on a massive leg up the trade ladder????
            All this talk about players who can perform over one that can?
            I think if Smurf and Daisey are not in your Mid line up at this stage “The boat is sailing and thse people on board are waving “Not drowning”” Also If every one has them guy’s why are you looking elsewhere? I get the POD’s I get the Potential what I don’t get is here is a Bona Fida thing and you are convincing your self that the Land ahead is not there because it ain’t on the map! I’m lost. Daisey is no Keeper but a short cut to lets say ..whomever you desire, too cheap and too good to pass up just like Beams. You know that if this was about beams …..’sorry lads my 2 cents back to the beer for me

            • throttlefinger says:

              Daisy you're probably right, Dools. Not convinced about Murph. Gonna roll the dice on Shuey, Ellis or Treloar. Sure Murph will get the hard tag off the go against PTA, Tiges and Bombers.

            • throttlefinger says:

              Also about Daisy. Don't discount him coming back at full strength. Serious eg injuries take some time to recover from, both physically and mentally. He'll be worried about that wheel for the first couple rounds for sure. Don't think it will result in scores lower than 80, but he may not come out gangbusters as assumed. And Blues don't have an easy road out of the gate, Dools. Food for thought, my lager learned friend.

          • Dools says:

            Ahh my friend, This is what makes champions. Me thinks that a horrible draw for the blues is what will knit the mids to-gether ..I have been wrong in the past buddy but I do know a good SC player when it’s shoved in my face…But as you say I may have erred but I don’t think so .. Too Cheap, Too good ,No beams Swan Dependlbereye …Hmmmm Now with Carazzo, Judd, Murphy do you think it has changed? Anywho I’m off to bed matey so I will persue this in the morning Austrailian time mate Good to hear from you and hope the wife is not allowed to watch the footy lol . the last whiskey has really put me to sleep old man so toodle pip me ol’ China

  223. Watto says:

    Hey guys, any thoughts/feedback would be greatly appreciated

    DEF: Bartel, Mitchell, Hodge, Hibberd, Kolodjashnij, Laidler, (Cutler, Fuller)

    MID: Pendles, Cotchin, Murphy, Beams, Martin, Aish, McDonald, Moribito, (o'Rourke, Taylor)

    RUC: Lobbe, Grundy, (Sandi, Nankervis)

    FWD: Danger, Roughy, Buddy, Zorko, Hogan, Rohan (Garlett, Honeychurch)

    $66,300 remaining

    • taylorwoof says:

      G'day Watto!

      That's one beast of a forward line, that could come out all guns blazing from the get go!

      POD in defense with Hibberd, always good to have a few POD's in your side.

      My only concern would be the midfield. Going in with 4-0-4 and no Ablett is quite ballsy. At the moment, i have the exact same structure 4-0-4, but with Ablett, Pendles, Murphy, Beams. My thinking is, with Gaz in there as well gives you two Captain options (VC Loophole) along with the extra scoring power.

  224. yurkins says:

    Loving backs B1-4..
    Nice DPPs in your mids. Though long on rookies. but hey its where the money is gunna be made.
    Im not a fan of the 3 pronged ruck device but plenty love it.
    Good structure but has its risks. :)

  225. Robert says:

    My team

    DEF: J.McVeigh S.Mitchell M.Suckling T.Mckenzie K.Kolodjashnij L.Mcdonald (J.laidler M.Fuller)

    MID: G.Ablett S.Pendlebury J.Selwood D.Beams D.Thomas J.Aish V.Michie L.Dunstal ( A.Morabito M.Crouch)

    RUCK: M.Lobbe A.Sandilands ( F.Thurlow T.Nankervis

    FWD: P.Dangerfield C.Wingard J.Roughead C.Dixon G.Rohan D.Garlett ( M.Honeycurch L.Taylor)

    I have 128,800 left and have no clue what to do with it!

    Any suggestions?

    • Jack Michaels says:

      Personally i wold upgrade dixon to Dusty Martin!

    • PJ8 says:

      Robert, solid line up. Pretty safe selections with your premiums.

      DEF – McVeigh and Mitchell solid, will be 95+ players
      Im hoping the Suckling will avg. 85+ and make some quick money.
      Mckenzie is not in full training yet due to injury so just moniter that.

      MID – Good premiums
      Morabito is going to play WAFL first, Not sure Michie will play form start of the year.

      RUCK/FWD – Solid, with Sandi its good you have Dixon with the DPP link.

      Just wait and see on the rookies now. With the left over coin I would just leave it now until you have to change a few rookies that might not play rd1 and use it if others are slightly more expensive

  226. rhino says:

    Is there any chance someone could tell me exactly how the captain loophole works, in simple terms? I’m normally taking AFL fantasy a bit more seriously but I’m moving to supercoach this year, thanks.

    • throttlefinger says:

      Essentially you're getting two chances to pick the right captain.

      Here's how it works using Ablett and Pendles as an example. Say Pies are playing on Friday night. You put a VC on Pendles. You then take someone on your team who will both NOT play this round and is not playing in the same game and bring him in. You make this non-playing player your Captain and put an Emergency on the player you moved to the reserves who he is replacing. If Pendles goes for 130-140+ and you don't think Gazza will do better, you leave everything as is. Because your "Captain" is not playing, the VC gets the captain points.

      Now if Pendles goes for 110 and you know Ablett will do better, you switch your Captain from the non-player who hasn't played yet to Ablett. Then you'll get his points. Sooner you do this the better.

      The key to doing the loop is making sure the players you're choosing are not playing at the same time or that their games don't overlap.

      Hope that helps, Rhino.

  227. Jack Michaels says:

    DEF –
    McVeigh, Jarrad (MID) $572500
    Birchall, Grant $496600
    Bartel, Jimmy (MID) $572500
    Docherty, Sam $285000
    Kolodjashnij, Kade $197300
    Gardiner, Darcy $117300
    (McDonald, Luke (MID) $182300, Fuller, Matthew $117300)
    MID –
    Cotchin, Trent $572000
    Fyfe, Nathan $574300
    Murphy, Marc $498300
    Pendlebury, Scott $683100
    Beams, Dayne $497200
    Aish, James $187300
    Martin, Jack $222300
    Tyson, Dom $216800
    (O'Rourke, Jonathan $123900 Beams, Claye $183400)
    RUCK-
    Kreuzer, Matthew $527900
    Longer, Billy $279100
    (Nankervis, Toby $117300, Lobb, Rory $117300)
    FWD-
    Dangerfield, Patrick (MID) $609000
    Martin, Dustin (MID) $549200
    Hogan, Jesse $217300
    Lamb, Jed $244500
    Roughead, Jarryd $531300
    Kersten, Shane $123900
    (Taylor, Lewis (MID) $117300, Garlett, Dayle (MID) $117300)

    I have 149,200k left in the bank! Would just like to hear your guys thoughts on my rookies! not sure about O'rourke and kersten!

    • PJ8 says:

      Jack, few good selections there.

      Birchall – like this, lots are overlooking him. Always been a 90+ point player. Last years scores clearly were effected by injury after a flying start. Avg. 120 after 4 rounds for memory.

      Cothin & Fyfe – again being overlooked. Hopefully they can both lift their avg to 115+ this season.

      Longer – Not sure about him, Hickey has the no.1 spot at the moment at StK. If he plays might be limited gametime behind Hickey. You could look at Longer being your R3 and downgrade elsewhere (maybe Kruz to someone cheaper like Grundy) to fit a different R2 in.

      FWD's seem a little light, will just have to hope those rookies play.

  228. Dools says:

    Ok . you pick a great player on a as a Vice captain- Fri / Sat game as a “Could be really really good’…It has now paid off with a score of lets say 150. that player has just doubled your score If you have a non playing captian the 150 is the captains score… Last year was either IMO Gary Ablett or Pendleberry as the 2 men hardley ever appered on the same day. This year is different however but if you look at the fixtures you can work it out … If Your VC scores well pick a lemon that you know will not play ..otherwise his score will count as the captains. Bugger it happpened to me more then once

  229. Farnzy says:

    DEF: McVeigh, Mitchell, Simpson, Suckling, K. Kolodjashnij, L. McDonald (Fuller, Laidler)
    MID: Watson, Cotchin, Scooter, Murphy, D. Beams, Daisy, J. Martin, C. Beams (Dunstan, M. Crouch)
    RUC: McIntosh, Sandilands (Longer, Nankervis)
    FWD: Dangerfield, D. Martin, Franklin, Zorko, Lennon, L. Taylor (D. Garlett, Honeychurch)

  230. Luke says:

    Hey guys, put this team together using the dreamteam page. keen to know your thoughts. Gone midfield heavy, and hoping my rookies generate some cash early. Giving Sam Mitchell a miss initially as he has Crowley in round 3(if i remember correctly).

    DEF: J. McViegh, A. Walker, M. Suckling, K, Kolodjashnij, M. Fuller, L. McDonald (T. Cutler, J. Laider)

    MID: G. Ablett, S. Pendlebury, K. Jack, D. Beams, D. Mundy, M. Murphy, D. Tyson, J. Aish (X. Ellis, V. Michie)

    RUCK: B. Grundy, T. Hickey (A. Sandilands, F. Thurlow)

    FWD: P. Dangerfield, C. Wingard, L. Parker, L. Franklin, R. Nahas, D. Garlett (M. Clark, L. Taylor)

    will no doubt tweak it some more, but will see how we go. got around 40k in the bank

    • Farnzy says:

      You do realize Pendles and Gazza will cop the Crowley tag in rounds 1 & 2. Both should still crack the ton but can't see them going too big, meaning they could both drop in price a bit early on. Food for thought.

      • Luke says:

        yeah you're right, they could drop in price after copping the tag. both midfields have a bunch of stars though so Crowley could potentially go to other blokes at times too, letting Gaz and Pendles get off the chain a little. Trying to minimise using trades early if at all possible, as I was too trade happy too early last season and it cost me

        • Farnzy says:

          All good mate, can’t go wrong picking those two regardless of their price! I think I’m just trying to reassure myself for not choosing to start with them!

  231. PJ8 says:

    Farnzy, looking good.

    I like Kade Simpson as a POD. Not many have him. Was a bit inconsistant last year with many games 80 and below but did rip out a few above 120. so hopefully he can be a bit more consistant this year for ya.

    Risky Rucks mate, both very injury prone and coming off injured years. I see Longer their as a back up but I think it may not be enough. If you are going to stick with these rucks I would maybe replace Zorko for Dixon (if you have the money) and keep the DDP link between FWD and Ruck as extra back up. Zorko could of just been a one year wonder in his first year, not confident he can repeat it this year.

    The rest is good with safe proven scorers

    • Farnzy says:

      Cheers mate, for now I'm happy to run with the risky duo all pending on NAB form and fitness. Personally I'm pretty bullish about prospects this year, apparently his smashing it this preseason (like everyone else) and I think a new coach can only improve his scoring. Thanks again for the comment.

  232. choppers says:

    My team with 60k left. All comments gratefully accepted.

    DEF: S.Mitchell, S.Thompson, D.Swallow, M.Suckling, J.Laidler, M.Fuller, (Curran fwd, Cutler)

    MID: G.Ablett, S Pendles, T.Cotchin, M.Murphy, D.Beams, D.Thomas, V.Michie, X.Ellis (Dunstan, Garlett fwd)

    RUC: T.Goldstein, A.Sandilands (Nankervis, Thurlow fwd)

    FWD: P.D'field, C.Wingard, C.Dixon, J.Watts, J. Paine, D.Markworth, (M.Honeychurch mid, L. Taylor mid)

    All barring pre-season injuries of course….

  233. SCMania says:

    Morabito or Crouch?

    • Farnzy says:

      Both will more than likely start in the 2’s, but if Crouch gets named to play I’d jump on!
      Crows had an internal scratch match the other week and he had something like 15
      touches from 20 mins game time. Kids a beast, needs to get treated for leather
      poisoning after every game he plays!

      • SCMania says:

        Thanks, I have O'Rourke, Dunstan, Honeychurch at the moment but need one more at that price range. What do you think?

    • Koach says:

      My father in law (die hard dockers supporter – goes to training sessions just to watch the boys) reckons morobito wont get first team selection for at least the first 4 rounds. By the sounds of it he's looking to be a good downgrade option.

      He also reckons Taberner is a smokie for some first team appearances

  234. Jimmy says:

    Thoughts good or bad appreciated.

    Def: S.Mitchell P.Hanley K.Simpson M.Suckling S.Docherty K.Kolodjashnij ( T.Cutler J.Battersby )
    Mid: G.Ablett S.Pendlebury M.Murphy D.Beams D.Thomas J.Martin C.Beams V.Michie ( L.McDonald M.Honeychurch )
    Ruc: M.Lobbe A.Sandilands ( F.Thurlow T.Nankervis )
    Fwd: P.Dangerfield C.Dixon L.Franklin L.Parker J.Caddy L.Taylor ( D.Markworth D.Garlett )
    Salary Cap Remaining: $53,100

  235. Jozza says:

    Can u lads check out my team and please write back :) much appreciated…

    DEF: Mitchel, Hanley, Swallow, Suckling, L. Mcdonald, Fuller (Laidler,Tippet)
    MID: Ablett, Pendles, Barlow, Beams, Thomas, J. Martin, Aish, Michie (Garlett, X.Ellis)
    RUCK: Lobbe, Grundy (Currie, Thurlow)
    FWD: Dangerfeild, Martin, Parker, Wingard, Hogan, Billings (Hayes, Honeychurch)

    • ShinbonerSpirit says:

      I have the same ruck duo, but with Apeness/Dixon swinging in FWD/RUC for added security. You might want to consider something like that. Jack Billings has had an interrupted preseason. I'd like to give Shane Kersten a mention. He's been in the system for a few years now, he's more experienced than most rookies, being 20 and Pods was delisted to give this guy a chance. Joel Tippett is still rookie listed so don't touch him. I'm slightly iffy about Swallow. Apart from that, solid team mate.

      • Jozza says:

        Thanks mate much appreciated will check that info out ! :) thanks

        • Jozza says:

          ok i did Joel tippet > Laidler… Billings > Kersten…. Now i can upgrade swallow to a 534k defender… who would you suggest.. Rob Murhphey, Heath Shaw, Luke Hodge, Kade Simpson or anyone else?
          Much Appreciated

  236. Caz says:

    Ok guys here is my first team for this year what do you think.
    Defence. Mitchell Hanley suckling kk McDonald laidler fuller Langdon.
    Mids. Ablett pendlebury Watson beams murphy thomas j Martin michie dunstan sheed.
    Rucks. Sandilands lobbe thurlow nankervis.
    Forwards. Dangerfield Martin Dixon franklin rohan garlett l taylor imply.

  237. WEEVZ says:

    Ok so my first draft SC team looks like this:
    DEF: J.McVeigh, M.Hibberd, P.Hanley, M.Suckling, K.Kolodjashnij, L.McDonald (J.Laidler, M.Fuller)
    MID: G.Ablett, N.Fyfe, T.Cotchin, D.Beams, D.Thomas, J.Martin, L.Dunstan, A.Morabito (L.Taylor, D.Garlett)
    RUCK: N.Naitanui, C.Dixon (T.Nankervis, M.King)
    FWD: P.Dangerfield, D.Martin, L.Franklin, C.Rioli, J.Hogan, S.Kersten (M.Apeness, M.Honeychurch)

    I have $84900 left in the bank. Thoughts?

  238. Jimmy says:

    Hey Everyone. This is my first crack for the year, any thoughts would be great. Don't pay too much attention to the rookies as they will undoubtedly change several times over the course of the preseason.

    J. McVeigh S. Mitchell P. Hanley D. Swallow M. Suckling K. Kolodjashnij
    T. Cutler M. Fuller

    G. Ablett S. Pendlebury T. Rockliff D. Beams D. Thomas J. Martin L. McDonald L. Taylor
    J. O'Rourke A. Morabito

    S. Mumford A. Sandilands
    T. Nankervis B. Brown

    P. Dangerfield C. Wingard L. Franklin D. Zorko M. Honeychurch D. Garlett
    S. Kersten J. Kennedy-Harris

    Only $4,700 left. Thoughts?

  239. Shannan R-H says:

    Hey guys! What do you think of my team? I'm unsure if I should slot Daisy Thomas in because of his price and same with Claye Beams!

    DEF: Bartel, McVeigh, Harry O, Suckling, Docherty, Kolojashnij, (Cutler, Fuller)

    MID: S Mitchell, D Martin, C Wingard, M Murphy, D Beams, J martin, J aish, D Sheed, (A Morabito, M Crouch)

    RUC: B Grundy, Sandi (Apeness, Nankervis)

    FWDS: Danger, Roughead, Mayne, Franklin, Zorko, Garlett (L Taylor, Honeychurch)

    Thoughts would be much appreciated along with any cash cows that I don't have that might get games/promising! Cheers!

    • taylorwoof says:

      Hey Shannan!

      Very unique side you have there. Especially the midfield.

      Personally i wouldn't select Mitchell, Martin or Wingard in the midfield. As was mentioned in recent Podcasts, don't focus too much on having the DPP swingers from the start of the year…..look to be trading them in as a the season progresses. All three of these players are worthy selections as Defenders/Forwards. I think Mitchell as a defender is a luxury. Plenty of 'reduced mids' to feast on this season.

      Also a starting a midfield minus Ablett or Pendles is quite ballsy. As these two become reliable captain selections on top of being proven prolific scorers.

      Your other lines look quite good. Few nice uniques in Harry O now Lalalabumba and Chris Mayne.

      I won't comment re rookies, as best to do this post NAB Series.

      • Shannan R-H says:

        Thanks mate for getting back to me! Really appreciate, will change my side around during and after NAB cup but thanks again mate!

  240. Paddy says:

    How does my team look first crack at it

    J.mcveigh. S.mitchell S.Hurn. T.cutler bench

    M.suckling. K.kolodjashnij. L.Mcdonald. M.fuller bench

    G.ablett. S.pendlebury. N.fyfe. T.cotchin A.morabito bench

    D.Beams. J.martin. D.tyson. C.beams. J.o'rourke. Bench

    C.Dixon. A.Sandilands. D.currie bench. A smith bench

    P.Dangerfield D.Martin. L.parker. L.taylor

    J.caddy. N.bock. G.rohan. A.Spina

  241. Jay says:

    Love to hear community's thoughts on my team first draft……have a couple of other players on mind but awaiting to see their roles in NAB Cup before finalizing:

    BAC: J. McVeigh, S. Mitchell, P. Hanley, M. Suckling, S. Docherty, J. Laidler (L. McDonald, M. Fuller)
    MID: S. Pendlebury, J. Watson, T. Rockliff, D. Beams, L. Shuey, D. Thomas, C. Beams, V. Michie (J. Polec, A. Morabito)
    RUC: B. McEvoy, A. Sandilands (D. Currie, T. Nankervis)
    FWD: P. Dangerfield, T. Mitchell, D. Zorko, J. Caddy, G. Rohan, D. Garlett (L. Taylor, M. Honeychurch)

    $4,400 remaining. Initially was thinking to have another premium in the Mids instead of Shuey – would mean I have to downgrade Docherty to a Rookie type to free up cash for Cotchin/JPK/Sloane – Sloane is very high on my watchlist, interested to see how he handles the new Co-Captaincy along with Dangerfield….

    • Jack Michaels says:

      love it! maybe downgrade mcevoy to grundy and upgrade caddy! Fwd line pretty light on!

      • Jay says:

        Cheers mate! I'm not totally settled in my rucks yet, will be watching NAB Cup closely to see likes of McEvoy, Jacobs, Grundy, Sandi, MacIntosh and Nic Nat to see whats the best combo i can go with…

  242. Jack Michaels says:

    need one more forward in my supercoach side and i have $276,600 to spend! thought? ideas?

    • ShinbonerSpirit says:

      How does your forward line look?

    • Michael says:

      maybe Jed Lamb could be a good one? Should get game time, was disappointed the Swans couldn't hang onto him.

      • taylorwoof says:

        Call me crazy, but starting to look closely at Shaun "BURNMAN' Higgins in that price range.

        Supposedly being pushed up the ground to play on a Wing or even Half Back (half back would be juicey for SC output). Also my thinking, many will steer clear of him due to past burns, so he could be a POD in that price range. I haven't chosen him for about four years, so i'm not scar ridden as many other coaches may be from him.

        Mitch Clark is high on my list if he looks good in the NAB Series. His best would average at least 80 a season.

        Really most of this price range are wait and see how they fair in the NAB

        Clark, Higgins, Fasolo, Lamb, Rohan, Hogan etc.

  243. chandanrajdb says:

    Hello Community,

    My team below, any comments would be much appreciated…….

    DEF:
    H Bartel, S Mitchell, S Atley, W Schofield, KK, L McDonald, J Laidler, M Fuller

    MID:
    G Ablett, S Pendlebury, J Watson, T Cotchin, D Beams, D Thomas, J Martin, X Ellis, L Dunstan, A Morabito

    RUCK:
    A Sandilands, H McIntosh, F Thurlow, B Brown

    FWD:
    P Dangerfield, C Dixon, L Franklin, J Caddy, J Hogan, G Rohan, D Garlett, L Taylor

    I have $12,100 left in the bank……

    Any comments, thoughts would be highly appreciated……..

    I am not too happy with my DEF……and i am taking a big risk in RUCK……which I am happy to take at the moment….obviously it will change after the NAB challenge if I witness any sort of issues with my Ruck's…..

    Cheers,
    Raj….

    • Jay says:

      Yeh, i would look to restructure the Def a bit more – quite thin, especially considering the number of premium options available there with likes of McVeigh, Hanley, Walker, Simpson, etc.. I would probably look to downgrade one of Ablett or Pendles and upgrade one of Atley or Schofield…

  244. Max von Muffman says:

    Howdy Jock. Well played again!

    How does this look?

    def: mitchell, hanley, suckling, K Kolodjashnji, laidler, fuller, (mcDonald, cutler)

    mid: ablett, pendles, selwood, dangermouse, d beams, zorko, thomas, martin, (aish, morabito)

    ruc: lobbe, grundy, (apeness, nankervis)

    fwd: martin, j roughead, gunston, hogan, taylor, garlett, (markworth, honeychurch)

    • taylorwoof says:

      G'day Max!

      Defense appears a little thin. Obviously it all depends on whether those rookies get early games. If they do then you're laughing, if not then a structure overhaul is required.

      Iron strong midfield there! Personally i wouldn't select Dangerfield as a midfielder. As mentioned in the recent podcasts, look to trade in your DPP's as the season progresses rather than starting with them. Plenty of reduced mids up for offer in the midfield.

      Rucks are interesting……Lobbe & Grundy, seems to be quite a lot of talk about both of them this pre season. Masterstroke if both star. Personally, i cannot spend 360K on a 7 game player in Grundy. Lobbe is a valid choice as he does fit that 'breakout ruckmen' profile.

      Being a Hawks supporter, i like the forward selections of Roughy & Gunston. I hope they both have a good 2014. Jesse Hogan, the kid is a beast….cannot wait to see him play. Gartlett….i'm not sure where he'll fit. Quite a lot of talk he replaces Rioli in the early games (Rioli suspended), but in my view Jed Anderson would be above him in the pecking order. Looking forward to getting a glimpse of Gartlett in the NAB Series.

  245. Mebois says:

    Hi Guys

    DEF: Mcveigh, Bartel, Seedsman, Suckling, Kolod…., Mcdonald (Fuller, Cutler)

    MID: Pendlebury, Fyfe, Barlow, Murphy, Beams, J. Martin, Beams, D. Sheed (Dunstan, Garlett)

    RUC: Dixon, Sandilands (Apeness, Nankervis)

    FWD: Dangerfield, Wingard, Franklin, Zorko, Hogan, Rohan (Taylor, Honeychurch)

    $77,100 left, please leave your thoughts, tips, advice and comments.

  246. James says:

    Hi guys hope your teams are going well. Would appreciate advice.

    DEF: Mcveigh, Mitchell, Hanley, Suckling, McDonald, Fuller (Laidler, Cutler)

    MID: Ablett, Pendlebury, Murphy, D. Beams, D. Thomas, J. Martin, Aish, Dunstan (Morabito, Honeychurch)

    RUC: Goldstein, Lobbe (Nankervis, B. Brown)

    FWD: Dangerfield, D. Martin, Dixon, Parker, Lennon, Taylor (Kersten, Garlett

    • taylorwoof says:

      Hi James!

      Looks a good safe team mate.

      Backs appear good, we'll know more about D5-D8 after the NAB Series.

      M1-M6 appears a very popular combination.

      Goldstein nice choice. He would be my choice of the Top end Premiums from last season. Lobbe appears to have that 'breakout ruckmen' profile.

      Fwds look good too…..sit and wait for NAB to know more about F5-F8.

      Only thing is i don't see any real POD's – perhaps Lobbe…….that will separate you from the masses. Though you may be planning on trading in a few in as the season progresses.

  247. DanielL says:

    Hey lads feedback would be great!

    DEF: hanley, birchall, houli, k.koladjashnij, mcdonald, laidler (cutler, fuller)

    MID: ablett, fyfe, wingard, murphy, s.mitchell, beams, martin, dunstan (garlett, m.crouch)

    RUC: lobbe, grundy (apeness, nankervis)

    FWD: danger, martin, roughead, franklin, markworth, taylor (impey, honeychurch)

    just over 34k leftover

    • taylorwoof says:

      G'day Daniel!

      Defenders look a little skinny with 3-0-3 structure, but will know more about D4-D6 post NAB.

      Mids, personally i wouldn't start Mitchell and Wingard in the middle. Trade your DPP's in during the year, prefer Mitchell down back and Wingard up forward.

      Rucks are interesting……Lobbe & Grundy, seems to be quite a lot of talk about both of them this pre season. Masterstroke if both star. Personally, i cannot spend 360K on a 7 game player in Grundy. Lobbe is a valid choice as he does fit that 'breakout ruckmen' profile.

      Fwds look strong. Find out more on rooks during NAB.

      Maybe you could play Mitchell or Wingard in their alternate positions and inject an extra rook into the midfield. Early doors, MID rooks appear to be the strongest….and look the best cash generation options.

  248. john says:

    Defs
    bartel, mcviegh, hibberd, hanley, kk, laiderler, (cutler, fuller)

    Mids
    ablett, dangerfield, murpghy, beams, selwood, j martin, l mcdonald, ellis (garlett, morabitto)

    Rucks
    sandi, leuenberger (thurlow, nankervis)

    Fwds
    Martin, frankin, zorko, hogan, rohan, L taylor (knight honeychurch)

    thoughts???

  249. WombatsFC says:

    Hi Community,
    Does anybody know if Tom Hawkins had an adult stem cell injection into his prolapsed disc or just the usual cortisone/steroid?

    There has been a recent clinical trial in Australia using adult stem cells as treatment for chronic back injuries such as hawkins'. It's not a cure but all indications are a minimum 12-months symptom free, cortisone/steriod injections can't guarantee any symptom free time frame at all.

    If he's had the stem cell treatment I'll definitely have in my team at round 1.

  250. Brem says:

    Alright – here's my team.

    D: McVeigh, S Mitchell, Hanley, Suckling, Darley, McDonald (Cutler, Fuller)
    M: Ablett, Pendlebury, M Murphy, D Beams, D Thomas, Martin, C Beams, Dunstan (Morabito, O'Rourke)
    R: McEvoy, Grundy (Longer, Nankervis)
    F: Dangerfield, Wingard, Franklin, T Walker, Billings, Bock (Taylor, Garlett)

    It feels dangerously predictable, and I will be watching NAB with interest to spot any potential POD's. However, with only 6600 in the war chest, I will be relying on some of these rookies to go big early – and I'm not sure they will.

    Thoughts?

  251. Squida 4 PM says:

    DEF:
    S. Mitchell, P. Hanley, C. Enright, D. Swallow, K. Kolodjashnij, M. Fuller (L. McDonald, T. Cutler)
    MID:
    G. Ablett, S. Pendlebury, T. Cotchin, M. Murphy, D. Beams, D. Thomas, J. Martin, L. Dunstan (A. Morabito, R. Knight)
    RUCK:
    M. Lobbe, A. Sandilands (M. King, T. Nankervis)
    FWD:
    P. Dangerfield, D. Martin, L. Franklin, J. Hogan, G. Rohan, D. Garlett (L. Taylor, M Honeychurch)

    Thoughts?

  252. Jamie says:

    Heres my first draft team, feedback wanted:

    Backs: J bartel, S mitchell, D swallow, J watts, S atley, K Kolodjashnij (Laidler, Fuller)

    Mids: J selwood, Libba, D beams, T scully, A gaff, D thomas, J martin, C beams (michie, Polec)

    Rucks: M Lobbe, B longer (B Brown, T Nankervis)

    Fwds: Danger, D martin, L franlin, S crameri, G rohan, L taylor (kersten, Garlett

    thoughts? Opinions? 20k left

    • Michael says:

      quite a few interesting picks here, probably too many IMHO – in def not sure Atley's your man, very consistent but like Jock – stuck in the '70's. I'd be getting another rookie in his place and use the cash to bump up from Swallow or Watts to another def premo like Hanley. or McVeigh. Mids you've gotta have either GAJ or Pendles, can't see Scully jumping up a gear so I'd swap him for a rook and swap Libba or Gaff for GAJ or Pendles. Rucks are OK but Longer might not get the game time you need with Hickey there. Fwds – I'd pick either Buddy or Crameri, not both. Crameri might have more upside and will give you the chance to swap Buddy for maybe Dixon to give you the ruck backup? Hope that helps!

      • WombatsFC says:

        i Agree with Michael, few changes and your side will be looking ok, another option is just start again.

  253. James says:

    Sandilands or Grundy?

  254. Michael says:

    Hi community, pretty happy with this team so far, thoughts?

    DEF: Bartel (MID), Mitchell (MID), Henderson, Suckling, KK, Fuller (Tippett J, Cutler)
    MID: Pendles, Fyfe, Cotchin, Wingard (FWD), Murph, Beams, McDonald (DEF), Ellis X (O'Rourke, Honeychurch (FWD))
    RUC: Minson, Sandy (King, Apeness (FWD))
    FWD: Danger (MID), Dusty (MID), Dixon (RUC), Bock, Rohan, Lennon (Kersten, Garlett (MID))

    have $8.5K left.
    byes 14/10/6 – not really worried about that at this stage, reckon it evens out pretty much anyway.

    • ShinbonerSpirit says:

      J Tippett is rookie listed. The DPPs are nice, but would you be risking valuable points from true midfielders by sticking, say, Wingard in there? Regardless, the team doesn't seem to have any gaping weaknesses. Great job!

  255. Seedy says:

    Team is as follows:

    DEF: S. Mitchell, S. Thompson, P. Hanley, M. Suckling, K. Kolodjashnij, J. Laidler, T. Cutler, M. Fuller
    MID: G. Ablett, S. Pendlebury, T. Rockliff, N. Fyfe, T. Cotchin, J. Martin, L. McDonald, V. Michie, J. O'rourke, D. Garlett
    RUCK: T. Goldstein, H. Macintosh, T. Nankervis, D. Currie
    FWD: P. Dangerfield, D. Martin, D. Zorko, J. Hogan, G. Rohan, L. Taylor, J. Impey, M. Honeychurch

    I've got $14,900 leftover, thoughts community?

    • Michael says:

      pretty fine looking team there Seedy – one of the best I've seen for sure – struggling to see how you got all these in! Like Rocky & Scotty T as POD in there, maybe a little light on def but you can't cover everywhere atm. Great mid – certainly best I've seen, should get you off to a cracking start. Only other slight concern is HMac – no cover if he doesn't get on the park. Otherwise really well done!

  256. Glen says:

    Hi Guys,
    Would love some thoughts on my team.

    DEF –
    J. Bartel – GEE
    S. Mitchell – HAW
    G. Ibbotson – FRE
    J. Adcock – BRI
    M. Weller – STK
    S. Docharty – CAR
    T. Cutler – BRI
    M. Fuller – WBD

    MIDS –
    J. Selwood – GEE
    J. Watson – ESS
    T. Cotchin – RIC
    M.Murphy – CAR
    D. Beams – COL
    D. Thomas – CAR
    S. Savage – STK
    L.McDonald – NTH
    L. Dunstam – STK
    A. Morabito – FRE

    RUCK –
    A. Sandilands – FRE
    B. Longer – STK
    D. Currie – NTH
    T. Nankervis – SYD

    FORWARDS –
    L. Franklin – SYD
    J. Kennedy WCE
    D. Zorko – BRI
    T. Walker – ADE
    J. Billings – STK
    D. Garlett – HAW
    L. Taylor – BRI
    M. Honeychurch – WBD

    The only concern i have is the strong St Kilda numbers but i see a lot of promise and potential trade up in these guys if the saints have a good start to the year. Any thought would be welcome

    • Michael says:

      like your pick of young Savage – seriously considering trying to squeeze him in somewhere!

    • Michael says:

      a bit unsure of your fwds – methinks too many KPF in there with Buddy, JPK & Tex, I'd certainly drop Tex as I don't think he'll be ready to go anyway for Rd1. Also very strong nads not having any of GAJ / Pendles / Danger. Not sure if Saints will get the start you want either (sorry Jock…). Overall lots of POD but also huge risks. But hey, if it works you'll probably win the whole thing!

  257. HoganKill says:

    DEF: Bartel, McVeigh, Mitchell, Hanley, Suckling, K Kolodjashnij (Fuller, Tippett)
    MID: Ablett, Pendles, Beams, D.Thomas, Tyson, C Beams, X.Ellis, Morabito (D.Garlett, Dunstan)
    RUC: Minson, Grundy (Currie, Thurlow)
    FWD: Danger, Wingard, Parker, Mitchell, Fasolo, T.Taylor (Honeychurch, Kersten)

    • WombatsFC says:

      It looks like a great high scoring teams. Rookies TBC obviously
      My only observations are Beams is very injury prone and misses a LOT of games but Murphy doesn't, Gaz & Pendles as the only premiums is a concern and Danger has averaged a 50K loss over the first 4 rounds for the past 2-years. Maybe drop Gaz or Pendle + Danger. Then add a couple of underpriced premium to your mids. Cotchin or Murphy are both good options.
      Keep an eye on Mitchell, apparently his ankle is looking a lot like Daisy's was.

      • WombatsFC says:

        Also don't like the fasolo pick and probably should just pick a whole new team.

      • HoganKill says:

        I don't agree on much you said there mate. I'm all for constructive criticism, but wowee! Beams is around 150k under priced and is almost a definite lock to be a top 10 mid this year. Murphy cant handle a tag, so if you want to pick him, go ahead! Hahaha, and if your not going to start with Danger, I wish you goodluck as you'll be playing catch up! He might just average 10 more than the 2nd best forward!

    • ShinbonerSpirit says:

      Tippett is rookie listed.

    • twindbag86 says:

      My two cents worth mate (take it or leave it), but the side seems a bit heavily weighted in defence, which has left you a bit vulnerable in other lines.

      If you compare your on field line structures:
      DEF – 4 premiums, 1 mid pricer, and 1 rookie
      MID – 3 premiums, daisy & morabito recovering from major injuries, and tyson, beams and ellis with question marks as to what impact they will have
      RUC – Minson and Grundy sounds good
      FWD – Danger is a given, I like the Wingard and Mitchell choice, Fasolo might struggle to break into the 22 at first, and Parker & T.Taylor I wouldn't have even considered but you might have mail on them that I don't.

      Fruit for thought brother.

  258. Wil says:

    Defenders:
    Andrew Walker $572,500
    Jared Mcveigh $572,500
    Sam Mitchell $562,000
    Matthew Suckling $312,200
    Kade Kolodjashnij $197,300
    Jeremy Laidler $161,800
    Tom Cutler $117,300
    Matthew Fuller $117,300

    Midfield:
    Gary Ablett $695,000
    Scott Pendlebury $683,100
    Patrick Dangerfield $609,000
    Marc Murphy $498,300
    Dayne Beams $497,200
    Shane Savage $341,600
    James Aish $187,300
    Luke Mcdonald $182,300
    Xavier Ellis $159,100
    Anthony Morabito $123,900

    Rucks:
    Ben mcevoy $503,300
    Billy Longer $279,100
    Michael Apeness $137,300
    Toby Nankervis $117,300

    Forward:
    Dustin Martin $549,200
    Lance Franklin $487,700
    Jack Gunston $447,400
    Jeremy Cameron $392,000
    Lewis Taylor $117,300
    Dayle Garlett $117,300
    Daniel Markworth $123,900
    Mich Honeychurch $117,300

    Any feedback would be great.

  259. Adam says:

    Hey guys, I play in leagues with friends who are a lot more hardcore then I am, so generally I am the pushover. I try to look like I don't care so it makes it even better if I knock them off. But looking to see if anything looks foul here or if the side looks ok. Any other thoughts are welcome.

    DEF – Mitchell S, Hanley P, Swallow D, Suckling M, Kolodjashnij K, McDonald L, (Cutler T, Fuller M)
    MID – Watson J, Fyfe N, Cotchin T, Murphy M, Beams D, Thomas D, Martin J, Dunstan L, (Morabito A, Garlett D)
    RUC – Mumford S, Sandilands A, (Currie D, Nankervis T)
    FWD – Dangerfield P, Roughead J, Franklin L, Zorko D, Walker T, Hogan J, (Taylor L, Honeychurch M)

    • matt says:

      walker wont play at least the first 3 rounds so I wouldn't start with him. very risky rucks both have bad history with injuries.

  260. chandanrajdb says:

    Hello Community,
    Some of the breakout contenders I am considering this season……
    1.Josh Caddy (MID/FWD, $325,300)
    He is in the system for 3 years and played 44 games…..and was a top 10 draft pick. Geelong went hard in getting him in 2012 Free agency period. And when Wells from Geelong is seeing something special from him he will be special, and considered as a future leader of Geelong footy club. Having a good pre-season and into his 2nd year with Cats. At the moment he is in my team. Another thing to consider is now that Chappy, Corey all gone he should get more game time and will be in the thick of the action for most of the game.

    Predicted 2014 Average: 90 to 95 PPG, wouldn’t be surprised if he scores more than that….

    2.Shane Savage (MID, $341,600)
    He is a good solid player. Whenever he got an opportunity at the Hawks he was really good in some of the games last season and was sub in most of the games. Lack of opportunity at Hawks as impacted his scoring and also his pricing. Now that he has moved on to Saints, he should get more of a game time and will be in playing in the midfield. Now that Nick Dal Santo has moved to NM, Savage should be filling his position with the saints. When it comes for the tag he will be below J Stevens and Montagna in the pecking order.

    Strongly considering him in my team, at the moment tossing up between him and Dale Thomas, both similarly priced.

    Predicted 2014 Average: 90 to 95 PPG……

    3.Brandon Ellis (MID, $440,400)
    OK, I don’t have to tell more about this guy. Everyone is aware what he did after the 1st 3 rounds last season…..his price is basically based on his season average and if you take out his scores of the games where he was a sub, his average increases to more than 90PPG….will be in the thick of the action most of the game time and has got all possibilities of a Breakout year for TIGERMAN…..BRANDON ELLIS…….STRONGLY Considering him in my team……at the moment he is not my team, but will be watching very closely during NAB challenge……

    Strongly considering him in my team, tossing up between L Shuey , M Murphy & him…….

    Predicted 2014 Average: 100-105 PPG……

    4.Robie Gray (MID/FWD, $442,600)
    He is a gun, first full preseason after 3 years looking absolutely fit. One thing we need to have a look is his average after the byes last season, he averaged 95.6 PPG…..looking like he will have very good season 2014, and will be a premium player by end of the season.

    Will be on my watch list…..and will be having a close look at him in the NAB challenge…..
    Predicted 2014 Average: 95 to 105 PPG…….
    Thoughts community.……

    Cheers,
    Raj….
    Ranked 595 overall last season, and that was my 1st proper SC season…..proud to be a JR Community member.…..trying to do bit better this year……

    • Mebois says:

      i have all of them except ellis, i dont want to many bargains but do you have any ideas for defenders.

      • ShinbonerSpirit says:

        I was always going to consider Broadbent in my team this year, MID/DEF or otherwise – definite breakout contender. Seedsman and Ben Reid also sit at that general price range. Reid comes with a rare FWD/DEF link, allowing you to form a dual-position link down the track. Lachie Hansen has transformed into an excellent rebound defender. I've got only Broadbent in my team at present time.

    • WombatsFC says:

      Not convinced Robbie Gray wont breakdown in the first 6.
      Have you considered the possibility that Caddy's extra midfield time will be as a shutdown player?
      IMO Brandon Ellis is way overpriced for a mid only and he might not get the freedom from opposition that he did last year, there no way that he will average 100-105.
      The reason Savage had a lack of opportunity at Hawthorn is that he wasn't good enough in the VFL to get a full game with the hawks and the reason the hawks gave him away is that they believe every other mid on their list is a better prospect. Even if he plays a full game for the saints he's not good enough to displace any of the current midfield, I know Dal Santo has gone but the saints are promoting from within to fill that position.

    • Favalinko says:

      Hi Chandanrajdb, all players your considering are worthy mid priced selections and the reasons you mention are all valid. I have considered all of them but R Gray, no doubt he can play but is injury prone bit risky for me. Caddy will play some time in the middle ( no Chappy no Motlop). Saints didn't recruit Savage to play in reserves. Ellis I have in my side over Murphy who can't shake a tag. Won't be surprised if Ellis average will be higher than Murphy. I followed your progress last year and glad you had a great year ( I finished 648) . All I can say is go with your gut once you have digested all the the information. Good luck in season 2014

  261. Mebois says:

    hi guys any news on riley knight and jayden hunt?

    also what do you guys think about ben reid as a POD?

  262. CowboysCowards says:

    Hi guys. Here’s my first look at it. Some wiggle room with $50K left

    Def- mcveigh, mackie, swallow, docherty, mcdonald( fuller, l.thompson)

    Mids- GAJ, Pendles, fyfe, Murphy, gaff, daisy, aish, m.crouch (polec, morabito

    Ruck- mcevoy, sandi ( apeness, thur low)

    Fwd – danger, roughy, Dixon, buddy, daniher, rohan( kersten, garlett)

    Dixon the ruck swing to handle apeness or thur low not playing.

  263. Matt says:

    Looking forward to season 2014
    Can you please rate my first draft?

    DEF: McVeigh, Mitchell, Hanley, Suckling, K Kolodjashnij, L McDonald (Fuller, Gardiner)

    MID: Ablett, Stevey J, Watson, D Beams, D Thomas, C Beams, X Ellis, A Morabito (M Crouch, B Ross)

    Ruck: Goldstein, Sandi (Derickx, Currie)

    FWD: Dangerfield, D Martin, Franklin, Rioli, M Clark, L Taylor (Kersten, D Garlett)

    $75,300 remaining

    Any thoughts?

  264. plumdusty says:

    second draftof my team. i still have $192,000 left over. do you usually spend your whole wad at first or do you save some? also, thinking about dumping Sam Mitchell. any thoughts?

    1. McVeigh, Jarrad
    $572,500
    2. Mitchell, Sam
    $562,000
    3. Hanley, Pearce
    $516,200
    4. Suckling, Matt
    $312,200
    5. Docherty, Sam
    $285,000
    6. Scharenberg, Matthew
    $192,300
    7. Kolodjashnij, Jake
    $117,300
    8. Fuller, Matthew
    $117,300
    9. Ablett, Gary
    $695,000
    10. Pendlebury, Scott
    $683,100
    11. Cotchin, Trent
    $572,000
    12. Murphy, Marc
    $498,300
    13. Thomas, Dale
    $341,800
    14. Billings, Jack
    $207,300
    15. Aish, James
    $187,300
    16. Beams, Claye
    $183,400
    17. McDonald, Luke
    $182,300
    18. Crouch, Matt
    $117,300
    19. McIntosh, Hamish
    $332,900
    20. Sandilands, Aaron
    $310,700
    21. Currie, Daniel
    $123,900
    22. Nankervis, Toby
    $117,300
    23. Dangerfield, Patrick
    $609,000
    24. Martin, Dustin
    $549,200
    25. Franklin, Lance
    $487,700
    26. Walker, Taylor
    $299,500
    27. Hogan, Jesse
    $217,300
    28. Rohan, Gary
    $176,200
    29. Kersten, Shane
    $123,900
    30. Garlett, Dayle
    $117,300

  265. hmm not sold on what i have at the moment but it is a start!

    Bartel, Hodge, Kolodjashnij, Swallow, fuller, rampe, dea, bootsma

    Ablett, Dangerfield, murphy, dal santo, aish, D Beams, Jackson, Heppell, C Beams, Morabito

    Nankervis, Cox, Wood, Daw

    Franklin, D Garlett, Taylor, Honeychurch, Patton, Cordy, Zorko, Rohan

    Thinking i am a little light on in my FWD line…

    • ShinbonerSpirit says:

      That is perhaps the thinnest forward line I've seen this year – ballsy! When Rioli returns after Rd 1, Garlett is going to struggle for game time. Taylor's job security isn't great. I don't know too much about Honeychurch. Patton isn't a great SC player. Even without injury, isn't very mobile. Nankervis isn't a shoe-in for a starting slot either. I'd get a proven player. What intrigues me though, is while you've saved plenty in FWD, where has all that money gone? You must have a tonne of cash left.

      • yeah those were my thoughts too…surprisingly only $6,100 left!
        luckilly plenty of time left ;-)
        Nankervis im not so worried about as Sydney have perfected having 2-3 big men in the line up.
        Good call re patton…
        Cheers

    • WombatsFC says:

      Hi Trent,
      I suppose you have to start somewhere:-)
      I reckon you're wasting a bit of money. Bootsma wont play seniors again for the blues, Daw is doubtful to get a game and when he does he usually scores low. I also believe that Naismith will get a run for Swans before Nankervis.

  266. Callum says:

    D- J. McVeigh, S. Mitchell, K. Kolodjashnij, L. McDonald, J. Laidler, M. Fuller (T. Cutler, T. Langdon)
    M- G. Ablett, J. Selwood, D. Hannebery, D. Beams, J. Martin, D. Tyson, L. Dunstan, J. O'Rourke (J. Kelly, C .Beams)
    R- W. Minson, T. Goldstein (M. Apeness, T. Nankervis)
    F- P. Dangerfield, D. Martin, C. Wingard, C. Riolo, M. Pavlich, J. Billings (L. Taylor, M. Honeychurch)
    6K left

    • WombatsFC says:

      Nice fwd line mate.

    • yurkins says:

      6 rookies in the backline is unlikely to pay dividends. Backmen don't score as well as mids so that's why we look to mids to generate our cash cows. (and why we put better premiums in the mids too, you need more premos in your mids)
      Backline rookies are likely to get 40-70 pts avg per game if we are lucky. Finding 6 that actually play is the other challenge. Look for more balance across your lines to enable capture of most playing rookies.
      Invest in your mid line. Dump Pav and put in daisy lets say?

  267. Mebois says:

    DEF: Mcveigh, Mitchell, Swallow, Suckling, Kolod…., Mcdonald (Fuller, Cutler)

    MID: Ablett, Pendlebury, Fyfe, Cotchin, Ellis, Savage, Martin, aish (Crouch, Garlett)

    RUC: Grundy, Sandilands (Apeness, Nankervis)

    FWD: Dangerfield, Franklin, Zorko, Gray, Caddy, Taylor (Thurlow, Honeychurch)

    $40,500 left, i am happy with the team but not sure about savage and ellis and i want to some how fit wingard or dixon.

  268. Caz says:

    Hi guys here is my team. Would appreciate some feedback thanks.
    Def. Mitchell Hanley suckling kk McDonald laidler fuller Langdon
    Mids. Ablett pendlebury Watson murphy beams thomas j Martin michie sheed dunstan
    Rucks. Lobbe sandilands thurlow nankervis
    Forwards. Dangerfield Martin Dixon franklin rohan garlett l taylor impey.
    149 k spare.

    • WombatsFC says:

      Hi Caz,
      That's a great team I love the midfield and forwards but I think you need a mid-for to link the lines. IMO you're also lacking in the backline. Mitchell & Hanley are both good but Suckling isn't a D3, maybe reconsider one or two of your overpriced rookies for cheaper options and pump the savings into getting another premium def.
      Defense has traditionally been a low scoring line in SC but with Bartell, Mitchell, McVeigh, Walker and Hodge all available as defenders that will change this year but high scoring defenders are still rarer than high scoring forwards.

      • Caz says:

        No worries thnx mate I have 150 k spare so will take a look at my backline and see what I can do. Thanks for your imput.

    • Dools says:

      Hi Caz,
      Agree with Wombats. Ithink it may come down to KK or McD if you want to keep Suckling In the back line or even sacrificing Martin in the mids…. Nice team with a tweek

      • Rhubarb_Ronin says:

        Hi Caz
        Agree with the above – maybe consider downgrading Murphy or Beams (probably Murphy of the two) to Beams the younger or D Tyson. This would free up cash for an extra premo Defender in place of KK or Mc and leave some $ in the bag.

        Whilst the mid output will suffer short term, either of the rookie priced mids are more likely to outscore their defensive counterparts and I believe should play R1.

        • Caz says:

          Ok guys I have put l taylor on my mid bench for the mid forward link, put kersten in as my forward rookie swapped Watson to mcveigh in the mids and took suckling out and brought in heath shaw.

  269. SuperCoach Newbie says:

    Im new to supercoach this year and have already spent hours just straing blankly at my team… I’ve got a couple of players i just cant decide between. Here goes: Tom Rockliff and Trent Cotchin. Shaun Atley and David Swallow. Luke Shuey and Marc Murphy. Last one i promise. Brodie Grundy and Hamish Mcintosh. Help would be very much appreciated.

    • Rhubarb_Ronin says:

      Welcome aboard – the staring blankly never quite goes away no matter how many seasons you’ve played.

      To your current dilemma(s), I’ve spent some of my own staring time pondering you first to queries for my own side:

      Rockliff v Cotchin: Both will score well in 2014 IMO. Cotchin probably offers a bit more upside in his price allowing you to make more pricey choices elsewhere, see below. I’ve currently settled this by having both in my side.

      Atley v Swallow: there was a bit of talk about Atley stepping up last season, not sure if we were all just a year behind but there is now a lot of talk about 2014 being the year for Swallow to make his move. His dual position makes him a slightly more desirable punt than Atley but Atley might be a good POD if he can add 10+ to his average. Another option would be to put $ saved by taking Cotchin over Rockliff and going for Ricky Henderson at $460k. Henderson has demonstrated a higher ceiling pumping out a hs of 160 last year and 5 tons (out of only 12 games) vs 3 and 1 ton (from 18 and 22) games for Swallow and Atley respectively. The Barron’s scouting report on Adelaide makes a number of good points in his favour as well.

      Hope this helps – I’ll have a look at the others and post something more if I can add value.

      • SuperCoach Newbie says:

        Thanks Ronin

        I think i can squeeze in Ricky Henderson if i go Cotchin instead of Rockliff. Now i can make a couple of changes before the staring resumes.
        Thanks

    • Dools says:

      Hi SCNewbie
      Tom Rockliff and Trent Cotchin Hmm I would advise Cotchin – Underpriced and favourable draw for Richmond plus they say he is over the Knee injury and perfect age to go BOOM but I also like Rockcliff mate
      Shaun Atley and David Swallow : Swallow has a hugh upside IMO but will he play to his potential….I think he will
      Luke Shuey and Marc Murphy: Me personally I would pick Murphy over Shuey There is a price differance, Marc has a much better SC scoring wise Midfiel around him , He was a proven preformer before 2013 and I think he represents great value Just like Beams from Collingwood

      Brodie Grundy and Hamish Mcintosh. Of the 2 I pick HMc. I do not think a 19 yo can be a dominant force in the ruc plus he has a big foul count whilst playing and that effects his SC output. HMc has not played in 2 years but he knows the game Geelong did not get him on a whim so Gut tells me Hmc Well that my 2 cents mate

  270. Jack says:

    Pick me apart please.

    DEF: Mitchell, Hanley, Suckling, K Kolodjashnij, Scharenberg, Docherty, Laidler, Cutler

    MID: Ablett, Pendlebury, Beams, Murphy, Thomas, Martin, Polec, Morabito, Garlett, Aish

    RUC: Naitanui, McEvoy, Currie, Nankervis

    FWD: Dangerfield, Wingard, Franklin, D. Martin, Hogan, Bock, Kersten, Honeychurch

    • yurkins says:

      Injury issue in pre for Scharenberg if I recall correctly, so wait and see.
      Mids perhpas better off with a POD or two cos Ablett, Pendlebury, Beams, Murphy, Thomas, Martin will be most selected this year IMO.
      Caution on NicNat for me to see how injury issue resolves. I'm keen on Jacobs but not many others are.

      • Dools says:

        G’day Jack I agree with yurkins
        Nic Nat is still on restricted training , he took part in cotact game however he only joined in the 2 half . So WCE are still nursing him along (I would pick him to mate if he was fully fit) Have a look at Leuenberger or if you have the coin Goldstein/Minson or even Cox mate

  271. Jim says:

    Here is my team guys.

    Defenders: Sam Mitchell, Scott thompson, Pearce Hanley, Matt Suckling, kade Kolodjashnij,Luke Mcdonald. Bench: Matt Fuller, Jeremy Laidler.

    Midfielders: Scott Pendulbery, Joel Selwood, Trent Cotchin, Dayne Beams, Luke Shuey, Dale Thomas, Jack Martin, James Aish. Bench: Dayle Garlett, Anthony Morabito.

    Ruck: Brodie Grundy, Aaron Sandilands. Bench: Fraser Thurlow, Tony Nankervis.

    Forwards: Patrick Dangerfield, Lance Franklin, Dayne Zorko, Steve Motlop, Jesse Hogan, Gary Rohan. Bench: Lewis Taylor, Mitch Honeychurch.

    $25100 Remaining.

    Any thoughts would be appreciated.

    • luke says:

      EMERGING Geelong star Steven Motlop is set to miss the first month of the home and away season after having surgery in London in a bid to cure his knee tendonitis.

  272. Jozza says:

    Need help guys! having a dilemma over my Forward 3 & 4…. i have 1,017,000 left… any thoughts?

    • Michael says:

      Do you have Dixon – $487900 with RUC DPP which may allow you to punt on Sandy as R2 if you don't have him. Obviously you'll then need a RUC/FWD such as Apeness as back up.
      Throw Buddy in at $487700 and it leaves you $41400 cash to use elsewhere or keep spare.
      Lukey Parker @ $468800 could be a breakout contender to consider as well, plus has DPP MID eligibility.
      Hope that helps!

  273. David says:

    Def: S.Mitchell P.Hanley Mcveigh M.Suckling L.McDonald K. Kolodjashnij (Cutler, M.Fuller)
    Mid: S.Pendlebury J.Selwood J.Watson D.Beams J. Steven D.Thomas Dunstan J.Martin (V.Michie, L.Dunstan)
    Ruc: Natanui sandi (M.Apeness T.Nankervis)
    Fwd: P.Dangerfield D.Martin Rioli Rohan Billings Taylor (Garlett Kennedy Harris)

    thoughts on my team please. Will leave feedback on your teams

  274. David says:

    Thoughts on Jack steven please

  275. BeaglieBoy says:

    OK………….After a few months research and reflection….here is my squad to go into pre-season…..My strategy is to have a strong starting midfield which will then be sent back into defence as upgrades start happening (Mitchell, Mcveigh)…when those boys go back my defence will be just about finished….My risks are in the Ruck and are dependant on Sandies very large set of turf-toes holding up for 8-10 weeks….McIntosh could easily be Grundy by start of the year too….PLEASE GIVE SOME COMMENTS< PRAISE, CONDEMNATION….

    DEFENCE:
    (M) Bartel, (M)Hodge, (M)Hanley, Suckling, (M)McDonald, Laidler ( Fuller, Cutler)

    MID-FIELD:
    Ablett, Pendlebury, (D)Mitchell, (D)McVeigh, Murphy, Beams, (F)Karnezis, Beams C, (Shead, (F)Garlett)

    RUCK:
    McIntosh, Sandilands (Nankervis, King)

    FORWARDS:
    (M)Dangerfield, (M)Martin, Franklin, Bock, Rohan, Lennon, (Broomhead, (M)Honeychurch)

  276. dan says:

    Hi fellas what are your thoughts on Ben Lennon as a cash cow?

  277. Liam says:

    Thoughts on my squad would be greatly appreciated
    Defenders: J.McVeigh, S.Mitchell, P.Hanley, M.Suckling, K.Kolodjashnij, L.McDonald (T.Cutler, M.Fuller)

    Midfielders: S.Pendlebury, K.Jack, T.Cotchin, M.Murphy, D.Beams, D.Thomas, C.Beams, J.Polec (L.Dunstan, M.Crouch)

    Rucks: B.Grundy, A.Sandilands (B.Longer, T.Nankervis)

    Forwards: P.Dangerfield, D.Martin, L.Franklin, M.Clark, A.Fasolo, G.Rohan (D.Garlett, L.Taylor)

  278. Michael Todd says:

    My team:

    DEF – P Hanely, B Houli, N Malceksi, S Burboyne, M Sucking, K Kolodjashnij, T Cutler, M Fuller.

    MID – G Ablett, T Rockliff, J Bartel, D Beams, J Martin, J Aish, V Michie, M Crouch, L Dunstan, M Honeychurch.

    Ruck – M Lobbe, B Grundy, T Nankervis, D Currie.

    For – P Dangerfield, B Harvey, L Franklin, J Gunston, D Zorko, L Taylor, D Garlett, D Markworth

    Plz comment

  279. Jim says:

    Thoughts on Joel Selwood and Scott Pendulbury instead of Ablett?

  280. Jon says:

    OK here's my 1st crack at my team as it stands and will be having
    a close eye in NAB Cup.
    Shoot away of what you guys think of it…, any comments or opinions
    will be appreciated

    DEFENDERS
    McVeigh, J (MID) – Mitchell, S (MID) – Henderson, R
    Suckling, M – Docherty, S – Laidler, J
    Res: Cutler, T – Fuller, M

    MIDFIELDS
    Pendlebury, S – Selwood, J – Watson, J – Cotchin, T
    Murphy, M – Billings, J (FWD) – McDonald, L (DEF) – Michie, V
    Res: Morabito, A – Taylor, L (FWD)

    RUCKS
    Lobbe, M – Longer, B
    Res: Brown, B (FWD) – Nankervis, T

    FORWARDS
    Dangerfield, P (MID) – Martin, D – Dixon, C (RUC)
    Zorko, D (MID) – Lamb, J – Kersten, S
    Res: Honeychurch, M – Garlett, D
    Salary $28,400

  281. @Shaneoo88 says:

    Bartel, Mcveigh, Mitchell, Kolokjashnij, Scharenberg, McDonald, Cutler, Fuller

    Ablett, Penlebury, Cotchin, Beam,s, Martin, Aish, Sheed, Dunstan, Crouch, Honeychurch

    Goldstein, Grundy, Apeness, Nankervis

    Dangerfield, Martin, Wingard, Dixon, Billings, Taylor, Merrett, Garlett

  282. Callum says:

    Heres what would be a big improvement on my previous teams. There are 16 Round 10 bye players but I have an exact plan of what I'll do with them when I cross that bridge.

    14.3K left over

    DEF: Hanley, Mitchell, Mcveigh, Suckling, Kolodjashnij, Z Jones, Fuller, Cutler

    MID: Gazza, Pendles, JP Kennedy, Murphy, D Beams, Thomas, J Martin, Dunstan, C Beams, M Crouch(Or Morabito Depending on who will play early games and better form)

    RUC: Lobbe, Sandilands, Nankervis, King(For emergency and captain loophole)

    FWD: Dangerfield, Franklin, Zorko, Pavlich, Rohan, Taylor, Honeychurch, Garlett

    Obviously The RUCK is a bit of a risk, but I think if they have a good pre season and stay fit they're almost a premium output. Love to hear some thoughts

    RUC:

    • Woodman says:

      Great side, I would downgrade Mcveigh to a Hurn, Simpson or Shaw and upgade Zorko to Dusty Martin. Kennedy pick is unique. Dont mind that but if you have enough cash perhaps you could upgrade him to Jack for Kennedy as we all know seems to get the tag. If you dont like Dusty than perhaps Dixon for than at least you got coverage for Sandilands but you would have to change King to Brown who probably wont play either.

  283. Daniel says:

    Hi guys, thoughts would be appreciated
    Def-J.Bartel, P.Hanley, R.Henderson, M.Suckling, K.Kolodjashnij, L.McDonald (M.Fuller, T.Clurey)
    Mid-G.Ablett, D.Swan, T.Rockliff, D.Beams, D.Thomas, J.Martin, J.Aish, D.Gartlett (L.Dunstan, A.Morabito)
    Ruck-M.Lobbe, A.Sandilands (T.Nankervis, M.Apeness)
    For-P.Dangerfield, D.Martin, L.Franklin, T.Mitchell?, D.Zorko, L.Taylor (M.Honeychurch, J.Impey?)
    Thanks

  284. granty says:

    Thoughts on Tex Walker returning to some form or is he done for?

  285. Aidan says:

    Def
    J. Bartel, J. McVeigh, S. Mitchell, K. Koladjashnij, M. Scharenberg, T. Langdon (T. Cutler, M. Fuller)

    Mid
    S. Pendlebury, J. Selwood, J. Watson, T. Cotchin, D. Beams, J. Martin, L. McDonald, L. Dunstan (J. O'Rourke, M. Crouch)

    Rucks
    B. Grundy, A. Sandilands (T. Nankervis, D Currie)

    Fwd
    P. Dangerfield, D. Martin, J. Roughead, L. Franklin, J. Hogan, L. Taylor (D. Garlett, M. Honeychurch)

    With 119k on my bench was hoping to trade Cotchin for Ablett but find myself about 4k short. Any improvements or upgrades/downgrades? Is it worth trading Ablett for Cotchin by downgrading another player and if not, where is my money best spent? Was hoping to wait for NAB cup but would appreciate any input.

    • Jonnie Walker says:

      if you really wanted to trade cotchin to ablett you could downgrade currie to ben brown and free up 6k

    • Jim says:

      IMO you should put Luke McDonald into the defense in place of scharenberg who is less likely to play.Then fill that last midfield spot with someone like James Aish or Dom Sheed. This should save you enough money so you can upgrade Cotchin to Ablett if you want to.

      Hope this helps

  286. SCMania says:

    How much will S. Hurn average do you think.

  287. Holty says:

    Hey blokes, here's a first shot team for 2014 any feedback would be great!
    DEF
    J.Bartel (mid) J.Mcveigh (mid) S.Mitchell (mid) S.Darley K.Kolodjashnij T.Cutler (J.Laidler M.Fuller)

    MIDS
    G.Ablett D.Swan T.Cotchin D.Beams D.Thomas J.Martin D.Tyson A.Moribito. (J.Aish L.Dunstan)

    RUCKS
    N.Naitinui M.Lobbe (D.Currie T.Nankervis)

    FWDS
    P.Dangerfield (mid) D.Martin (mid) L.Franklin M.Clarke G.Rohan D.Gartlett (mid) (L.Taylor (mid) M.Honeychurch)

    $147.900 in the bank for some movement still, looking to NAB and some community comments to iron out some kinks!!!

  288. Caz says:

    Ok guys I have made some adjustments what do you think.
    Def. shaw Mitchell Hanley kk McDonald bews (Langdon fuller)
    Mid. Ablett pendlebury mcveigh wingard beams thomas j Martin sheed (dunstan l taylor)
    Ruck. Lobbe sandilands (thurlow nankervis)
    Fwd. dangerfield Martin franklin Dixon rohan garlett (kersten impey)

  289. Lochie says:

    Can someone pls help. Who should I choose out of Buddy, Parker or Zorko? A

    • Caz says:

      I think buddy at his price and what he is capable of is a bargain.

      • Lochie says:

        Thanks Caz. But at times I just feel he's a bit inconsistent. That's all.

        • Caz says:

          Yes he can be but the Sydney ground will suit him. Watch closely in nab cup if he plays as to how and where the swans are going to use him. From what I hear could play more up in the midfield wing.

  290. jstocker59 says:

    DEF – J. Bartel (MID), J. McVeigh (MID), H. Shaw, P. Hanley (MID), K. Kolodjashnij, J. Laidler – W. Langford, M. Fuller.

    MID – S. Pendlebury, P. Dangerfield (FOR), N. Fyfe, M. Murphy, D. Beams, J. Martin, J. Aish, L. McDonald (DEF) L. Dunstan, L. Taylor (FOR)

    RUCK – B. Grundy, A. Sandilands – M. Apeness (FOR), T. Nankervis

    FOR – D. Martin (MID), C. Wingard (MID), C. Mayne, N. Vardy (RUC), J. Hogan, J. Billings (MID) – D. Garlett (MID), M. Honeychurch (MID).

    Pretty happy with version 1 – awaiting the pre-season and Round 1 teams obviously – 12 premiums and some decent rookies I reckon. Plenty of DPP options. Having the Vardy/Apeness swing will hopefully sort out the Sandilands issue with him probably set to miss some games. Heath Shaw may become Sam Mitchell pretty early on (14,100 left).

  291. James says:

    Shuey vs Ellis. Hardest decision ever… Im just so confused because there both great but in order to get both i’d need to get rid of beams. Arghhhh

    Please help

  292. Duncan says:

    DEF: McVeigh Mitchell Hanley Suckling Kolodjashnij McDonald (Fuller Cutler)

    MID: Ablett Pendlebury Rockliff Cotchin Beams Martin Beams Sheed (O'Rouke Honeychurch)

    Ruc: Leuenberger Sandilands (Thurlow Nanervis)

    FWD: Dangerfield Franklin Gunston Caddy Lennon Taylor (Garlett Kennedy-Harris)

    $116,400 Left
    Think my forwards may be a bit weak
    Thoughts?

    • Chalka says:

      Pretty strong squad mate. Maybe Caddy to a rook and use the extra cash on upgrading Gunston? Personally, not sold on Gunston's potential improvement – think he'll plateau for a year while he adjusts to life without Bud (and a better defender). Caddy has more potential improvement, but not sure how much?

  293. ape says:

    Hey guys thoughts on my team? Feedback would be great

    DEF: Mitchell, Bartel, Carlisle, suckling, McDonald, Laidler, (Fuller), (Cutler)
    MID: Ablett, Pendlebury, Murphy, D. Beams, Thomas, Martin, Aish, (Dunstan), (morabito)
    RUCK: McIntosh, Sandilands, (Apeness), (Nankervis)
    FWD: Dangerfield, Roughy, Wingard, Buddy, Rohan, Garlett, (kersten), (Taylor)

    $102,500 left in the kit

    • Chalka says:

      Light on in the backline and two ruckmen returning from injury? High risk, high reward maybe?

      • ape says:

        yeah i agree it is a big risk with the ruckmen but hopefully at least one returns fine and i have enough money to upgrade if it fails anyways

        who would you suggest in the back line then??

  294. Joe says:

    Would love some feed back community

    Def: Batel, Hanley, D. Swallow, Suckling, Docherty, Fuller, Cutler, Langdon.

    Mid: Ablett, Pendels, J. Selwood, K. Jack, Beams, D. Thomas, L. McDonald, morabito, L. Dunstan, D. Garrett.

    Rucks: Sandi, Longer, Lobb, B. Brown

    Fwds: Danger, Franklin, monfries, zorko, hogan, bock, L. Taylor, Honeycrunch

  295. Chalka says:

    Good to see so much enthusiasm for SuperCoach early. Thanks to Jock and Co. for sharing their wealth of knowledge – but f**k me, with the community like a sponge absorbing all of this crucial information, it is going to be tougher than ever to win the big bucks.

    Would love some feedback on this squad lads…

    DEF: McVeigh, Mitchell, Ibbotson, Dunn, Docherty, Kolodjashnij (good luck wrapping your lips around that one Commetti) & McDonald, Fuller
    MID: Pendles, Watson, Ziebell, Murphy, Beams, Thomas, Savage, Martin & Aish, Michie
    RUC: Lobbe, Hickey & Apeness, Nankervis
    FWD: Dangerfield, Franklin, Caddy, Broomhead, Kersten, Garlett & Taylor, Honeychurch

    Keen to see how Brodie Smith is shaping up this year, missed out last year early, but didn't show a heap coming back. Would like to get Libba in the middle, could be the last year we get him at this price. Ryder is a smoky in the ruck with Bellchambers out, ave. over 100 last time he was sole ruck. Feeling light on in the forwards… seems a mixed bag to me, although, Franklin has to be value at that price??

    • Jay says:

      Like couple of PODs in your team – namely Ibbo and Ziebell – if Ziebell can stay on the paddock and avoid tribunals, he is an absolute gun!!!

    • Sarah says:

      Love the team. I'm going to be closely watching Brodie Smith myself. Word is there'll be a midfield move, hoping this'll be the case. So many awesome mids, including Libba, it's impossible to fit them all in. I'm thinking the forward line will have some great rookies so might be the place to go light on, but only time will tell.

  296. Kevan says:

    Here is #49, any comments welcome.
    Def: A.Walker, S.Mitchell, S.D.Thompson, P.Hanley, C.Sutcliffe, J.Laidler, M.Fuller, T.Cutler.
    Mid: G.Ablett, K.Jack, N.DalSanto, D.Beams, L.Shuey, D.Thomas, L.McDonald, D.Garlett, M.Honeychurch, L.Taylor.
    Ruck: N.Naitanui, A.Sandilands, T.Hickey, D.Currie.
    Fwd: P.Dangerfield, C.Wingard, J.Patton, M.Clarke, N.Bock, D.Markworth, J.Kennedy-Harris, R.Knight.
    $40300 in the bank, bye outs 9/10/11. Ratio 14<$250k, 6 mids, 10>$500k

    • Adam says:

      A few risks here, your kind of hoping that all the players coming back from injury will fire with no further setbacks.

      Also is it worth forking out the money for Hickey if hes going to sit on the bench? Could put in a Nankervis, then trade out someone like Bock and Patton for a more premo forward and a rookie.

    • Jay says:

      Too many DPPs in your Midfield for my liking…I would be looking to reduce 1 or 2 of them and maybe move them into the FWDs or BACs

      Also too many risks in the FWDs with Paton, Clark and Bock!! 40k in the bank means quite a few points you are missing out on…look to spend 20-30k more and get another premo MID.

  297. tyzsb says:

    DEFENDERS: J. McVeighSYD , S. MitchellHAW ,
    P. HanleyBRL , T. McKenzieGCS , M. SucklingHAW , S. DochertyCAR ( M. Fuller and J. Laldler)

    MIDFIELDERS: S. Pendlebury , N. Fyfe , M. Murphy , D. Beams , D. Thomas , J. Aish , L. Dunstan , C. Beams ( J. Polec and M. Honeychurch)

    RUCKS: B. Grundy , A. Sandilands ( T. Nankervis and D. Currie)

    FORWARD: P. Dangerfield , D. Martin , L. Franklin , D. Zorko , C. Dixion , A. Fasolo ( D. Garlett and L. Taylor)

    Thoughts on my team?

    I have $104,100 left

    Any feedback / thoughts / comments would be really appreciated

    Cheers,
    Ty

    • simmo3 says:

      like it.. McKenzie has missed a fair bit of preseason though so maybe look for another option there

    • Daniel says:

      Not sure on Polec, maybe for Jack Martin? Luke McDonald? Sources are saying that Suckling won't be back until second round of NAB cup so not much gametime before the start of the season, otherwise alright team.

  298. Shaun says:

    Defenders
    J.McViegh
    S.Mitchell
    P.Hanley
    M.Suckling
    L.McDonald
    M.Fuller
    T.Cutler
    T.Langdon

    Midfielders
    G.Ablett
    S.Pendlebury
    T.Rockliff
    M.Murphy
    D.Beams
    B.Crouch
    J.Martin
    J.Aish
    D.Sheed
    D.Garlett

    Rucks
    N.Naitanui
    A.Sandilands
    D.Currie
    T.Nankervis

    Forwards
    P.Dangerfield
    L.Franklin
    D.Zorko
    S.Kersten
    L.Taylor
    M.Honeychurch
    N.Bock
    J.Kennedy-Haris

    Please provide any thoughts or suggestions
    I feel my forwards have one to many rookies

    • Daniel says:

      Forward line not the best, maybe swap M.Murphy/B.Crouch for a cheaper rookie and use the money on a rookie forward into a premium.

  299. Dools says:

    G’day shaun, The forward line is very light but this is good I think as you have not ginned around in Def or Mids. I think the Ruc is good if NicNat is good to go, but at the moment he is being nursed along byWCE

    Your weakness is the Fwd line but this is good as you have covered DEf & Mids with high SC outputs. How much have yu left mate? I see very busy trading for 4/5 rounds at kickoff .

    You can field a very strong team regarding Def Mids and to a lesser extent Rucs and a massive hole up front but if they all fire you are on a winner..

    • Shaun says:

      Hi
      Thanks for the advice
      I have $86,300 left in the bank
      Should I consider maybe upgrading a rookie or keeping that for my first few rounds?

      • Dools says:

        Hi Shaun,
        Have a deecko at Jocks Cheat sheet V2, You can Jig around players in Mid and Fwds to give cover. NicNat is still being nursed along mate so No from me My Rucs as of today
        Goldy, McEvoy, Nankervis and good old maxy king as a Catptains Loophole given the fact that the demons have 7 games on the last day each weekend and I;m sure he is not up to playing yet at AFL level. Also have a look at gardener Bris Lions I think he has many games up his sleeve pre Bye round
        Hope this helps buddy

  300. Jimmy says:

    Thoughts appreciated.

    Def: J.McVeigh S.Mitchell S.D. Thompson M.Suckling S.Docherty K.Kolodjashnij ( M.Fuller T.Cutler )

    Mid: J.Watson T.Cotchin M.Murphy D.Beams D.Thomas J.Martin C.Beams V.Michie ( L.McDonald D.Garlett )

    Ruc: M.Lobbe A.Sandilands ( F.Thurlow T.Nankervis )

    Fwd: P.Dangerfield C.Dixon L.Franklin L.Parker D.Zorko B.Lennon ( L.Taylor M.Honeychurch )

    Salary Cap Remaining: $10,200.

    Tried to use underpriced mids to allow a strong FWD line as I don’t think there are very many decent low priced FWD options.

    • simmo3 says:

      very even across the ground.. big call to not go in with ablett or pendelbury or both. could pay off though

  301. jesseTCL says:

    Gday lads and ladettes!

    What does everyone make of my team??

    DEF- Bartel, Mcveigh,Hibberd, K.Kolodjasnig, McDonald, Fuller (Cutler, Langdon)
    MID- Pendles, Rockliff, Cotchin,Beams, Thomas,J.Martin, Aish, D.Sheed (Michie, Garlett)
    RUCK – Goldy, Lobbe (Apeness, Nankervis)
    FWD- Danger, Franklin,Dixon, Zorko, Hogan, Lennon (L.Taylor, Honeychurch)

    $76,400 left in the bank

    Any advice? :)

  302. Hank says:

    Any thoughts would be appreciated.

    Def: S.Mitchell, P.Hanley, R.Henderson, M.Suckling,
    K.Kolojashnij, M.Fuller, J.Bews, T.Langdon
    Mid: S.Pendlebury, J.Watson, T.Rockliff, M.Murphy, D.Beams,
    D.Thomas, J.Martin, D.Sheed, L.Dunstan, L.Taylor
    Ruc: M.Lobbe, B.Grundy, F.Thurlow, T. Nankervis
    For: P.Dangerfield, D.Martin, C.Rioli, S.Higgins,
    J.Lamb, D.Garlett, J.Kennedy-Harris, J.Impey

    Higgins is obviously a risk and I have been burnt before
    on more than one occasion but with 30 trades can burn
    one if it doesn’t come off.

    192k in the bank

  303. simmo3 says:

    hey guys would appreciate some thoughts..

    DEF
    S Mitchell, M Hibberd, B Smith, M Suckling, M Weller, L McDonald, T Cutler, M Fuller,

    MID
    G Ablett, S Pendelbury, M Murphy, D Beams, D Thomas, C Beams, V Michie, L Dunstan, J Aish, A Morabito,

    RUCK
    N Naitanui, B Grundy, F Thurlow, T Nankervis

    FWD
    P Dangerfield, D Martin, L Frankilin, D Zorko, J Darling, L Taylor, D Gartlett, M Honeychurch

    Thanks

  304. Junior says:

    First cut and too heavy with rooks so far so some fine tuning to be done. Still have 321k in the kitty so plenty of room to move.

    Def: Jimmy, McVeigh, Hartlett, McDonald, Laidler, Fuller, Kolosdjshni, Cutler

    Mid: Gaz, Pendles, Rockie, Murphy, Beams, J Martin, Michie, X Ellis, Aish, Dunstan

    Ruck: Lobbe,Grundy, Apeness, Nankervis

    Fwd: Danger, Buddy, Dixon, Billings, Taylor, Garlett, Rohan, Honeychurch

    Keen to hear your feedback!

  305. Osh says:

    Is Josh Kelly worth 212k

  306. Michael says:

    Def : Mitchell, Hanley, Swallow, Watts, R.Shaw, Mcdonald (Cutler, Fuller)

    Mid: Ablett, Pendlebury, Priddis, Beams, Shuey, J.Martin, Tyson, Aish (Dunstan, Morabito)

    Ruck: Grundy, Sandilands (Thurlow, Nankervis)

    Fwd: Dangerfield, D.Martin, Franklin, Zorko, Rohan, Garlett, Taylor, Kennedy-Harris

    $42,400 left

  307. hein says:

    Any thoughts would b appreciated please

    Defenders
    S Mitchell
    J grimes
    B Reilly
    M suckling
    S Shaw
    L McDonald
    J laidler
    M fuller

    MiDs
    Pendlebury
    Watson
    Cotchin
    Beams
    Murphy
    Daisy
    C beams
    Mitchie
    J Martin
    Morabito

    Ruck
    McIntosh
    Sandilands
    Currie
    Thurlow

    Fwd
    Danger
    Tippet
    Buddy
    Gunston
    Spangher
    Fasolo
    Honeychurch
    Taylor

    I have $24,000 left over

  308. Osh says:

    Def: S. Mitchell, J. Bartel, M. Hibberd, M.Suckling, K. Kolodjashnij, L. McDonald ( T. Cutler, M. Fuller)

    Mid: G. Ablett, T. Rockliff, N. Fyfe, P. Hanley, D. Beams, Dale Thomas, J. Martin, L.Dunstan (A. Morabito, L. Taylor)

    Rucks: T. Nicholls, A. Sandilands ( B. Brown, T. Nankervis)

    Fwds: P. Dangerfield, L. Franklin, D. Zorko, J. Billings, N. Bock, D. Gartlett. (M. Apeness, M. Honeychurch)

    Got 250k in the bank bit worried bout my rucks though. Keen to hear some feedback :)

  309. danny says:

    ok guys here is my team with a whopping 174k left in bank

    backs: mcveigh,mitchell,hanley,suckling, k koldasnij, fuller,tippett, langdon

    mids: ablett, pendlebury, beams, k jack, m murphy, martin, aish, mcdonald, taylor, mitchie

    rucks, mcintosh , sandilands, naverkis, apeness

    forwards: danger, dixon, franklin, zorko , rohan , kersten, garlett, honeychurch

  310. tyzsb says:

    DEFENDERS: J. McVeighSYD , S. MitchellHAW ,
    P. HanleyBRL , T. McKenzieGCS , M. SucklingHAW , S. DochertyCAR ( M. Fuller and J. Laldler)

    MIDFIELDERS: S. Pendlebury , N. Fyfe , M. Murphy , D. Beams , D. Thomas , J. Aish , L. Dunstan , C. Beams ( J. Polec and M. Honeychurch)

    RUCKS: B. Grundy , A. Sandilands ( T. Nankervis and D. Currie)

    FORWARD: P. Dangerfield , D. Martin , L. Franklin , D. Zorko , C. Dixion , A. Fasolo ( D. Garlett and L. Taylor)

    Thoughts on my team?

    I have $104,100 left / Not sure who to upgrade to!?!?

    Any feedback / thoughts / comments would be really appreciated

    Cheers,
    Ty

  311. Jimmy says:

    Not sure about Grundy at R1. Otherwise a strong looking team

  312. Ash says:

    Hey jock, what do you think of Dylan shiel at 400k, or is jack martin a better option

  313. michael says:

    1. Hanley, Pearce
    $516,200 $+0 ($+0)

    2. Suckling, Matt
    $312,200 $+0 ($+0)

    3. Shaw, Rhyce
    $299,400 $+0 ($+0)

    4. Delaney, Luke
    $291,300 $+0 ($+0)

    5. McDonald, Luke
    $182,300 $+0 ($+0)

    6. Fuller, Matthew
    $117,300 $+0 ($+0)

    7. Kolodjashnij, Kade
    $197,300 $+0 ($+0)

    8. Cutler, Tom
    $117,300 $+0 ($+0)
    9. Ablett, Gary
    $695,000 $+0 ($+0)

    10. Dangerfield, Patrick
    $609,000 $+0 ($+0)

    11. Murphy, Marc
    $498,300 $+0 ($+0)

    12. Beams, Dayne
    $497,200 $+0 ($+0)

    13. Thomas, Dale
    $341,800 $+0 ($+0)

    14. Savage, Shane
    $341,600 $+0 ($+0)

    15. Dunstan, Luke
    $132,300 $+0 ($+0)

    16. Garlett, Dayle
    $117,300 $+0 ($+0)

    17. Pendlebury, Scott
    $683,100 $+0 ($+0)

    18. Martin, Jack
    $222,300 $+0 ($+0)

    19. Sandilands, Aaron
    $310,700 $+0 ($+0)

    20. Longer, Billy
    $279,100 $+0 ($+0)

    21. Hannath, Jack
    $253,100 $+0 ($+0)

    22. Nankervis, Toby
    $117,300 $+0 ($+0)

    23. Roughead, Jarryd
    $531,300 $+0 ($+0)

    24. Franklin, Lance
    $487,700 $+0 ($+0)

    25. Riewoldt, Jack
    $458,500 $+0 ($+0)

    26. Zorko, Dayne
    $447,200 $+0 ($+0)

    27. Watts, Jack
    $411,100 $+0 ($+0)

    28. Bock, Nathan
    $196,900 $+0 ($+0)

    29. Hogan, Jesse
    $217,300 $+0 ($+0)

    30. Taylor, Lewis
    $117,300 $+0 ($+0)

  314. FightingTard says:

    Backs:
    McVeigh(SYD), Handley (BRIS), Mitchell (HAW), Suckling (HAW), Kolodjasnhji (GC), McDonald (NM), Laider (SYD), Fuller (WB)

    Mids:
    Ablett (GC), Pendlebury (COLL), Murphy (CARL), Beams (COLL), Thomas (CARL), Martin (GC), Dunstan (StK), Garlett (HAW), Honeychurch (WB), Hunt (MELB)

    Rucks:
    McEvoy (HAW), Sandilands (FREE). Apness (FREE), Nankervis (SYD)

    Forwards:
    Dangerfield (ADEL), Martin (RICH), Wingard (PA), Dixon (GC), Bock (GC), Kersten (GEEL), Rohan (SYD), Taylor (BRIS)

  315. Adam says:

    Please pick my team apart. Brief explanations for each line, fairly new at this still.

    DEF: McVeigh J, Mitcheel S, Hanley P, Kolodjashnij K, McDonald L, Fuller M (Tippett J, Cutler T)

    Know the back is probably a bit skinny but trying to make up for it in the other spots, could maybe trade a Dale Thomas out for someone a bit better in the backline.

    MID: Ablett G, Pendlebury S, Cotchin T, Beams D, Thomas D, Martin J, Sheed D, Dunstan L (Morabito A, O'Rourke J)

    I think its a pretty strong midfield, playing Beams and Thomas both off injuries could be a worry?

    RUC: Ryder P, Lobbe M (Currie D, Nankervis T)

    A few points of difference here, was thinking Ryder or McEvoy.

    FWD: Dangerfield P, Roughhead J, Franklin L, Zorko D, Caddy J, Hogan J (Taylor L, Garlett D)

    Have taken a punt on Caddy, thinking he might lift this year.

    As above tear this to shreds and if you think there is a weak spot, please suggest a replacement??

  316. Dools says:

    Hey TF Ihave changed tac. I’m going Goldy, McEvoy, Nankervis and Max King in Rucs . I have put Mitchell, Hodge, Birchell in Def and I played wuth Mids GaJ , Stevie J, Cotcjin, and put Hanley in there with Beams, Daisey, Caddy and Manchild (Dunstin) What do you reckon mate Oh also Chappy made it with Franklin, Zorko,Taylor L, Garlett, Hmm okay frontline is short but I have 100K to sorta figure it out.
    Keyboard, Next G, are telling me the Good Book is full of ……I can’t type that team . The Devil is always in the detail LOL

  317. tyzsb says:

    DEFENDERS: J. McVeighSYD , S. MitchellHAW ,
    P. HanleyBRL , T. McKenzieGCS , M. SucklingHAW , S. DochertyCAR ( M. Fuller and J. Laldler)

    MIDFIELDERS: S. Pendlebury , N. Fyfe , M. Murphy , D. Beams , D. Thomas , J. Aish , L. Dunstan , C. Beams ( J. Polec and M. Honeychurch)

    RUCKS: B. Grundy , A. Sandilands ( T. Nankervis and D. Currie)

    FORWARD: P. Dangerfield , D. Martin , L. Franklin , D. Zorko , C. Dixion , A. Fasolo ( D. Garlett and L. Taylor)

    Thoughts on my team?

    I have $104,100 left / Not sure who to upgrade to!?!?

    Any feedback / thoughts / comments would be really appreciated

    Cheers,
    Ty

  318. tyzsb says:

    I have 107,100 left in the bank!
    Trying to decide if I should upgrade D. Thomas to B. Ellis!?!!
    Thoughts very appreciated.

  319. tyzsb says:

    JAMES AISH or CLAYE BEAMS?!?!

  320. Jono says:

    OK!! here's my 2nd and last attempt
    before the NAB.

    DEFENDERS
    Thompson, S – Hanley, P – Henderson, R
    Suckling, M – Mcdonald, L – Laidler, J
    (Res) Langdon, T – Fuller, M
    MIDFIELDS
    Ablett, G – Pendlebury, S – Cotchin, T – Beams, D
    Thomas, D – Savage, S – Martin, J – Dunstan, L
    (Res) Michie, V – Honeychurch, M
    RUCKS
    Lobbe, M – Longer, B
    (Res) Thurlow, F – Nankervis, T
    FORWARDS
    Dangerfield, P – Martin, D – Dixon, C
    Franklin, B – Caddy, J – Kersten, S
    (Res) Taylor, L – Garlett, D
    $76K in the Kitty

    Thoughts, Comments, Opinions or Criticism
    Whatever it may be.

    • throttlefinger says:

      Hey Jono. Here's my 2 cents:

      DEF: Like the Thompson-Hanley combo. Hendo could hurt or help you. Play a close eye during NAB. Plenty in the price range. Beware of Laidler. Hard to get into Swans side, especially off the start. Overall this is the most dynamic part of your team from a POD standpoint.

      MID: Don't have a bad word. Savage is a nice POD. Be mindful of Daisy and his form. May take some time for him to get going. Sure the price is right but you could maybe use that cash for B. Ellis or to help your ruc line…

      RUC: The risky bit of your team. Built on a lot of hope. Hope that Lobbe will be playing the same level he left off. And hope Longer will supplant Hickey as #1 Saints ruck. Too much hope, my man. You need an anchor. McEvoy or even Mummy would be preferred. Know you have Dixon as a backup but Thurlow isn't going to give you the scores you want from an F3. Something to consider.

      FWD: Nice mix. I'm not starting with Danger but understand the reason for. So are you planning for Caddy to be used for your first upgrade? Could be a great plan. Set and forget it.

      Think you have a strong structure overall. Sure NAB will help shape it further.

  321. Jay says:

    After a weekend of solitude – came to the conclusion that starting the team without both of Pendles and Ablett would lead me to more sleepless night, so updated my team and have decided – pick them both – put a lock on them for C and VC each week – and move on….. :-)
    Team as it currently stands:
    BAC: J. McVeigh, S. Mitchell, P. Hanley, S. Docherty, K. Kolodjashnij, J. Laidler (M. Fuller, T. Cutler)
    MID: G. Ablett, S. Pendlebury, J. Watson, T. Rockliff, D. Beams, D. Thomas, J. Polec, X. Ellis (A. Morabito, L. Dunstan)
    RUC: B. McEvoy, T. Hickey (F. Thurlow, T. Nankervis)
    FWD: P. Dangerfield, T. Mitchell, D. Zorko, T. Hawkins, G. Rohan, L. Taylor (D. Garlett, M. Honeychurch)

    11k left in Salary Cap

    Tossing up between Hawkins and Caddy – waiting to see how Hawkins plays in the NAB and see Caddy's role as well…

    Love you hear the community's thoughts…..

  322. Sarah says:

    Thoughts on my team would be greatly appreciated…

    Def: Mitchell, Hibberd, Hurn, B Smith, Docherty, Laidler (McDonald, Fuller)

    Mid: Ablett, Pendlebury, D Beams, Shuey, D Thomas, Aish, Sheed, Dunstan (Hallahan, Gartlett)

    Rucks: Cox, Sandi (Apeness, Currie)

    Fwds: Dangerfield, D Martin, Wingard, Dixon, Lennon, Tayler (Impey, Kersten)

    Has fwd/ruck and fwd/mid swings. All premium forwards are either mid/fwd or mid/ruck.

    • tyzsb says:

      Very solid FWDS and RUCKS
      Mid is good except for Shuey
      Def is very interesting

      Cheers Ty
      Would greatly appreciate if you could leave some feedback on my team Thanks.

  323. tyzsb says:

    DEFENDERS: J. McVeighSYD , S. MitchellHAW ,
    P. HanleyBRL , R. Henderson , M. SucklingHAW , M. Fuller (Jake Kolodjashnij and J. Laldler)

    MIDFIELDERS: S. Pendlebury , N. Fyfe , M. Murphy , D. Beams , B. Ellis , J. Aish , L. Dunstan , D. Sheed ( J. Polec and M. Honeychurch)

    RUCKS: W. Minson , A. Sandilands ( T. Nankervis and D. Currie)

    FORWARD: P. Dangerfield , D. Martin , L. Franklin , D. Zorko , C. Dixion , L. Taylor ( D. Garlett and G. Rohan)

    Thoughts on my team?

    I have $900 left

    Any feedback / thoughts / comments would be really appreciated

    Cheers,
    Ty

    • Sarah says:

      Very nice! Solid forward line. My only concern would be starting without Ablett, and Murphy has issues with getting tagged. But it's a very sold round 1 side.

  324. jimbotraralgon says:

    hey guys.

    decided to go with 2 midpricers per line except for the mids with 1 (I count murphy and beams as premiums).

    Def: S.Mitchell P.Hanley D.Swallow M.Suckling K.Kolodjashnij L.McDonald ( J.Laidler M.Fuller )
    Mid: G.Ablett S.Pendlebury M.Murphy D.Beams D.Thomas J.Martin J.Polec L.Dunstan ( X.Ellis J.O'Rourke )
    Ruc: N.Naitanui M.Lobbe ( A.Sandilands P.Mitchell )
    Fwd: P.Dangerfield D.Martin L.Franklin J.Darling G.Rohan S.Kersten ( L.Taylor D.Garlett )
    Salary Cap Remaining: $5,700

    Sandi (if isnt looking flash) may give way for longer so I can get Mitch Clark. Ideally, KK or Mcdonald wants to be downgraded for a cheaper rookie.

    • Dools says:

      Hey Jimbo,
      I think you are reaching with KK but excellent cover D 6 to D 8 Now I’m a fan of the Suckling pig but surely an injury free player is the go mate at a simular or cheaper price Wookie me thinks but NAB will indicate who’s who at this Zoo.
      I can’t fault your Mid and Ruc selections (Dogdog still on restricted training but I would pick him if he were up ) maybe Ham and egg buger or Dicxon for your structure
      Fwds Mate on paper this looks awesome but Dangermouse and Martin not for me at this PIT upgrades maybe even downgrades But overall 10 M well spent mate. Solid

      • jimbotraralgon says:

        Thanks for all that dools.

        I’m really interested in your forward structure with no danger or Martin. Care to share?

        • Dools says:

          Forwards: Franklin , Chapman, Zorko, Rohan , Taylor L, Garlett D, Lennon & Kersten
          Franlin is a lock this season I think he will play the power forward when Tippet Rucs and when the Tiprat plays forword he will play in the Mids.
          Chappy by all reports is ready to roll but if not a switch for some one else (On Form in NAB)
          Zorro ( This is a burn) but I have been convinced he is showing enough and over the 2 Year blues
          Rohan , I think of the small forwards in the comp he is the best (Injury worries sorted but I have been told he is ready for Rnd 1 so I have but my coin on him)
          Garlett D, Hmmmm he will play rnd 1 but if he excites me ha will be a covering foward I do not see him in the Hawks top 22 just yet but lets watch rnd 1 and see where that brings me.
          Lennon has been touted as a starter since Dec 13 by Richmond (Lets see)
          Kerstin is a long shot but may get games pre bye
          So what do you reckon Jimbo?

    • Derek says:

      Nik Nat & Sandi in the Ruck is over kill. Pick one!

  325. Calebhotchkin says:

    DEF: mcveigh, ibbotson, h.taylor, b.waters, suckling, j.laider (fuller, Ellis)
    MID: pendles, s.johnson, s.mitchell, m.murphy, d.beams, c.beams, x. Ellis, dunstan (garlett, wanganeen)
    RUC: nicnat, mcevoy (majak, nankervis)
    FWD: danger, cloke, s.motlop, t.walker, f.thurlow, l.taylor (honeychurch, spina)

    Don’t really know anything about the rookies

  326. Caz says:

    Hi guys thoughts on dawson Simpson as a pod ruck choice.

  327. Mebois says:

    Team Name: Mebois

    DEF: Bartel, Mitchell, Simpson, Swallow, Hansen, Fuller (Cutler, J. Kolod)

    MID: Pendlebury, Liberatore, Fyfe, Beams, Thomas, Savage, Martin, Aish (Dunstan, Morabito)

    RUC: Ryder, Sandilands (Thurlow, Nankervis)

    FWD: Dangerfield, Franklin, Zorko, Caddy, Taylor Garlett (Apeness, Honeychurch)

    $106,300 Left, Please leave comments.

  328. So here's my team as it stands, any thoughts are welcome.
    DEF: H.Shaw, M.Hibberd, P.Hanley, M.Suckling, K.Kolodjashnij, L.McDonald (M.Fuller, T.Cutler)

    MID: G.Ablett, J.Steven, N.Fyfe, M.Murphy, D.Beams, J.Martin, L.Dunstan, J.O'Rourke (M.Hallahan, M.Honeychurch)

    RUC: C.Dixon, M.Lobbe (F.Thurlow, T.Nankervis)

    FWD: P.Dangerfield, D.Martin, L.Franklin, C.Wingard, J.Billings, D.Garlett (L.Taylor, J.Kennedy-Harris)

    $15,000 remaining

  329. Dools says:

    I think you expect the same out put from Bartel and Mitchel as last year I can’t say your wrong but that is a big plate of what if’s IMO Lovin’ the Mids mate until I get to Aish, and Moribito but I get why you done it. Your Rucs are Weak I think see many many posts by me and posts by others in this regard. You have gone safe route with Fwds nothing wrong with that but see many posts on that to . You are probobaly right but I just do’nt see dangermouse (Great SC Player having a start off value of $600K plus I may be missing something but he is IMO again upgade or downgrade stuff) But overall Good team now POD except for Libba (whom I love) but PODs are irrelevent B4 the 3rd round..Nice team .Safe but Nice Mebois

    • Mebois says:

      thanks but i am worried about mitchell and bartel but confident they can be top 5 defenders years end.

      might change morabito but have to see nab cup.

      i have ryder because bellchambers is injured and he can average 100 and sandilands is to cheap.

      fwd: i doubt alot of people have danger, franklin, zorko, caddy in the same team.

      but thanks for the tips.

  330. Jimbo Jones says:

    Would love a bit of feedback if anyone's willing!

    DEF
    Bartel, Hanley, Ibbotson
    Birchall, KK, Laidler
    (Cutler, Fuller)

    MIDS
    Ablett, Fyfe, S. Selwood, Beams
    Heppell, Martin, Aish, Sheed
    (Dunstan, Garlett)

    RUCK
    Grundy, Sandi
    (Currie, Nankervis)

    FWD
    Danger, Franklin, Parker
    Zorko, Caddy, Lennon
    (Kerston, Taylor)

    $10, 200 in bank.

    Thanks in advance :)

  331. Eric says:

    Hey guys thoughts on the team????

    S. Mitchell – S. Thomson – P. Hanley – S. Docherty – K. Kolodjashnij – L. McDonald (subs – T. Cutler – M. Fuller)

    G. Ablett – S. Pendlebury – T. Cotchin – M. Murphy – D.Beams – D. Thomas – J. Martin – L. Dunstan
    (subs – J.O'Rouke – M. Honeychurch)

    B. Grundy – A. Sandilands (subs – M. Apeness – F. Thurlow)

    P. Danderfield – C. Wingard – L. Franklin – D. Zorko – J. Billings – B. Lennon (subs – L.Taylor – D. Garlett)

    only have $400 left but I think its pretty solid all round expect the rucks but hopefully Sandi stays fit until the bye rounds and i'll trade him out… Or who knows he could be a keeper… maybe haha

    feed back would be great thanks

    • Russ says:

      Pretty solid team Eric, if it were mine I'd probably leave dangermouse out for now for someone a bit cheaper and averages about 90 and go for a more reliable Ruck than beanpole Sandi…too injury prone…and who's lennon?..haven't heard of him

      • Eric says:

        Hey Russ… Thanks for info i'll have a look into it after NAB

        and Ben Lennon is Richmond's number 1 draft pick… top 10 pick in this draft I believe… I heard he's pushing for a round one start at the tigers from at mate that does their physio….

        I might drop him for kennedy harris tho and save some cash.

  332. Russ says:

    Lumumba, D.Swallow, Vlastuin, Suckling, K.Kolodjashnij, Mcdonald —Cutler, Fuller

    Ablett, Pendlebury, S.Mitchell, D.Beams, D.Martin, D.Thomas, J.Martin, Aish — Dunstan, Honeychurch

    Dixon, Lobbe—-Apeness, Nankervis

    Roughead, Wingard, Franklin, Hogan, Rohan, Garlett——F.Thurlow, L.Taylor

    $272000 left over…appreciate any comments thanks.

  333. Ash says:

    Hi all, any feedback would be appreciated

    Defs: Mitchell, hibberd, swallow, atley, koladashnij, McDonald (cutler, fuller)

    Mids: ablett, Cotchin, ziebell, murphy, beams, Martin, Polec, dunstan (o rouke, honeychurch)

    Rucks: minson, longer (apensess, nakervis)

    Fwds: dangerfield, Parker, Franklin, Dixon, lamb, gartlett (Taylor, Kennedy harris)

    $140 k in the bank

    • Derek says:

      With Dixon in your FWD, I would put Thurlow as a bench RUCK so you can swing Dixon into your rucks if needed or to do the RUCK loop hole.

      Ziebell is an inspired choice

  334. twindbag86 says:

    G'day Gents,

    Pumped for another season of S.C.

    Here is my first crack at the Vic St Zombies 2014… critique's welcome.

    DEFs
    S.Mitchell, J. Bartel, P.Hanley, M.Suckling, K.Kolodjashnij, L.McDonald (Res – M.Fuller, T.Cutler)

    MIDs
    G.Ablett, S.Pendlebury, J.Selwood, N.Fyfe, M.Murphy, D.Beams, J.Martin, A.Morabito (Res – L.Dunstan, V.Michie)

    RUCKs
    B.Grundy, A.Sandilands (Res – D.Currie, T.Nankervis)

    FWDs
    P.Dangerfield, T.Mitchell, J.Roughead, G.Rohan, S.Kersten, D.Gartlett (Res – L.Taylor, M.Honeychurch)

    Remaining Cash – $12,900

    I'm thinking my forward line might be a little light on at this stage, but I'm steering away from Dusty Martin as I reckon he is a loose cannon, and I also opted for Roughy over Buddy, given that Buddy is untested in a forward line with Tippett and might take some adjusting… I prefer a small man forward line rather than the big forwards who lack consistency.

    I also initially had T. Libba in the mids over J.Selwood, but i've heard that history would suggest that Libba is a slow starter.

    Thoughts appreciated!
    Cheers

    • Derek says:

      I haven't got a lot of info on this but I have a feeling Danderfield and Selwood are slow starters as well. I am thinking of leaving both out to start and picking them up cheaper around the Buy Rounds.

      Gartlett won't get much of a game at Hawthorn. If he does it will be Green Vested. have a look at Markworth at St Kilda.

  335. BeefTaco4 says:

    Def
    1. Mitchell, S
    $562,000
    2. Shaw, H
    $522,600
    3. Vlastuin, N
    $405,200
    4. Suckling, M
    $312,200
    5. Shaw, R
    $299,400
    6. McDonald, L
    $182,300
    23. Cutler, T
    $117,300
    24. Fuller, M
    $117,300

    Midfielders
    7. Ablett, G
    $695,000
    8. Cotchin, T
    $572,000
    9. Kennedy, J
    $568,600
    10. Murphy, M
    $498,300
    11. Beams, D
    $497,200
    12. Martin, J
    $222,300
    13. Polec, J
    $172,600
    14. Sheed, D
    $167,300
    25. Dunstan, L
    $132,300
    26. Morabito, A
    $123,900

    Rucks
    15. Hampson, S
    $334,100
    16. Sandilands, A
    $310,700
    27. Longer, B
    $279,100
    28. Apeness, M
    $137,300

    Forwards
    17. Dangerfield, P
    $609,000
    18. Martin, D
    $549,200
    19. Franklin, L
    $487,700
    20. Chapman, P
    $464,400
    21. Hogan, J
    $217,300
    22. Rohan, G
    $176,200
    29. White, S
    $123,900
    30. Taylor, L
    $117,300

    would love some feedback. I'm a little ify with my cheaper defenders and forwards at the moment

  336. Derek says:

    i'm thinking of RUCKS as follows.

    Sandi & Hickey (Nankervis & Thurlow FWD)

    Plus having Dixon in the FWD.

    This will give me cover if Sandi misses some games. Dixon will be good and will look at trading him out once Z Smith is back.

    What do people think?

    I was hoping that someone could explain how the ruck loophole can be used with this arrangement? For example Round 1 FREM play Friday night. I would put Thurlow on the ground and Sandi as EMERG. If Sandi has a good score I just leave as is. If he has a poor score, can I still sub Dixon into the ruck in place of Thurlow?

    • Derek says:

      changed to Sandi and Lobbe

    • PJ8 says:

      Derek,

      You have the loophole corect, you will be able to sub Dixon for Thurlow up until Gold Coast play the next night.

      One thing to be aware of though: If Sandi does score something your not happy with and you sub Dixon onto the ground in the ruck spot, you will want to hope your bench forward line player gets more than Sandi. Otherwise you will end up with less points anyway.

      So if Sandi gets 75 it may be worth taking compared to playing a bench rookie in the fwd line who might only get 50. But that's all luck!

      • Derek says:

        i'll take 75 before most of my FWD rookies. I was just thinking Sandi could get injured and score 10

        thanks for the reply

  337. Derek says:

    I am worried about the "Crowley Factor". I have seen what he can do when he tags a player.

    FREM have Collingwood (Pendlebury) 1st Round, GC (Ablett) 2nd round, and HAW (Mitchell) 3rd round.

    I can see those three all getting a poor score in their first 3 games which will cause a bit of a price drop after round 3. Not as significant for Pendlebury as it will only affect him for one week.

    I will be looking at getting them in from round 4 onward.

    Ablett has MEB round 5 and GWS round 6!!!

    • PJ8 says:

      Go into the season without Ablett and Pendles at your own peril! Ill be happy with the more people that do it, as I will be closer to the $50K that them.

      I wouldn't worry about Crowley. You have to have the best 2 SC players in your side from day 1. Put them in M1 and M2 and leave it. You will end up with them in your team anyway and probably save yourself 4 trades starting with them (2 x downgrade / upgrade trades)

      Personally I think its a good thing these players have Crowley in the first 2 rounds. I reckon it may take Crowley a few weeks to get back into it.

      • Derek says:

        My team for most of the time has had Ablett and Pendles in it, I was looking for some cash to upgrade elsewhere and was trying see if I could wait a bit. At the moment I have Pendles but not Ablett. Much can change before round 1.

        thanks for your reply

  338. Derek says:

    What do people think of Webster (Saints) in DEF. $240k. I thought he looked good last year.

    If not, who else around that same price would you consider?

    • PJ8 says:

      Not Sure about Webster, awkward price. Id prefer to go cheaper to Laidler, Mcdonald or Kolodjashnij if you haven't already

      • Derek says:

        got them all.

        only others I were considering around that price was Buntine (GWS defence will see plenty of the ball this year) and Docherty (moved to new club).

        Where is the Goodes and Terlich from last year?

        • PJ8 says:

          Yeah Buntine will be a good player, hopefully string some games together.

          Hopefully the Goodes and Terlich of this year are Fuller and Cutler. Love cheap first year players that score well.

  339. PJ8 says:

    Just read that Nathan Buckley has said that Ben Reid will partner Cloke up forward this season.

    What's everyone's thoughts on this? Does it make you consider Reid for SC?

    When he went Fwd in 8 games last year and kicked 25 goals including a bag of 5 and 2 bags of 4. Also is a very good contested mark… 4 scores of 100+ last season.

    • Derek says:

      He is a very good footballer. I'm going to stay away from the big key forwards this year (although Buddy is on my watchlist) and look for midfield type forwards. Danger, Martin, Chappy.

      Reid $435k is too expensive. (Cloke is only $513k)

  340. PJ8 says:

    Bartel, J. McVeigh, Mitchell, Suckling, K. Kolodjashnij, Fuller (Clurey, Cutler)

    Ablett, Pendlebury, Watson, Murphy, D. Beams, J. Martin, Aish, Dunstan (O'Rourke, Perris)

    Goldstein, Naitanui (Thurlow, Nankervis)

    Dangerfield, D. Martin, Franklin, Rohan, Gartlett, Taylor (Kerstan, Honeychurch)

    $17,100 bank
    Please rate my team….

  341. Tim Darby says:

    Thoughs community

    DEF: MCVEIGH, HANDLEY, HURN, DOCHERTY, KOLODJASHNIJ, FULLER

    (MCDONALD, CUTLER)

    MIDS: PENDLES, WATSON, HODGE, BEAMS, D.THOMAS, SHUEY, DUNSTAN, MORABITO

    (O’ROURKE, M.CROUCH)

    RUCK:NIC NAT, DAW,

    (LONGER, NANKERVIS)

    FORWARDS: DANGER, DUSTY, WINGARD,BUDDY, ROHAN, TAYLOR

    (GARLETT, IMPEY)

    • Steven says:

      Need Ablett
      Hodge risky (other options)
      I'd wait an see for Shuey
      Daw might not be #2 ruckman for NM
      Wingard Pricy

      Few tweaks and it will look even better, good start.

      • Derek says:

        Hodge has reached the peak of his powers. I don't think you will get anymore than 2013 out of him. Not a premium MID. I would upgrade Hodge to Ablett and downgrade one of your pricey DEF to Laidlier.

        Not sure if DAW will get a start. I would change Longer & Daw to Sandi & Apeness

  342. Steven says:

    Loving my team atm
    Thoughts?

    DEFs
    S.Mitchell, J. Bartel, T.Mckenzie, M.Suckling, K.Kolodjashnij, L.McDonald (Res – M.Fuller, J.Tippet

    MIDs
    G.Ablett, S.Pendlebury, J.Watson, T.Cotchin, D.Beams, D.Tomas ,J.Martin, D.Tyson, (Res – J.O'Rourke, M.Honeychurch)

    RUCKs
    B.Grundy, T.Hicket or B.Longer (Deciding) (Res – D.Currie, T.Nankervis)

    FWDs
    P.Dangerfield, C.Dixon, L.Franklin, M.Clark, A.Fasolo, G.Rohan(Res – L.Taylor, D.Garlett)

    Remaining Cash – $8,100

  343. chandanrajdb says:

    Hello Community,

    Not sure what's the version of my team……it keeps changing at least 2 times daily……Team as it stands currently…….

    DEF:
    S Mitchell, S Hurn, S Atley, M Suckling, R Shaw, L McDonald, J Laidler, M Fuller

    MID:
    G Ablett, S Pendlebury, B Cunnington, M Murphy, D Beams, D Thomas, S Savage, J Martin, C Beams, L Dunstan

    RUC:
    H McIntosh, A Sandilands, F Thurlow, T Nankervis

    FWD:
    P Dangerfield, C Dixon, L Franklin, J Caddy, J Lamb, L Taylor, D Garlett, M Honeychurch

    Have got $1,500 left……..

    Thoughts would be much appreciated…..

    Cheers,
    Raj…..

    • Derek says:

      McIntosh AND Sandi is a big risk. Although I like how you have Dixon (via Thurlow FWD) as backup.

      Savage is a good idea, STK have a good start to the season, but as soon as he adds a few dollars you will have to get him out, he is not a Premium MID.

      A lot of people are going for Lamb. I just can't make myself select a FWD from GWS.

      Rookies look good. Obviously will have to monitor RD1 to see who is playing. I would have a watchlist of at least 20 Rookies that you can switch to come RD1. I doubt Gartlett will get a RD1 start.

  344. Gabe says:

    My Dream Team

    DEF

    T. Lonergan GEE

    $209,900

    D. Rampe SYD

    $279,400

    T. Richards SYD

    $281,600

    A. Johnson SYD

    $226,900

    D. Swallow GCS

    $377,000

    B. Reid COL

    $387,700

    L. Roberts-Thomson SYD (Sub)

    $146,700

    Z. Dawson FRE (Sub)

    $184,000

    MID

    K. Jack SYD (C)

    $549,400

    J. Kennedy SYD

    $493,000

    J. Martin GCS

    $268,300

    J. Selwood GEE (VC)

    $576,700

    P. Dangerfield ADE

    $534,700

    S. Pendlebury COL

    $611,200

    N. Fyfe FRE

    $530,900

    J. Watson ESS

    $534,000

    H. Cunningham SYD

    $135,500

    D. Garlett HAW

    $162,600

    RUC

    S. Mumford GWS

    $423,000

    A. Sandilands FRE

    $244,500

    M. Daw NTH (Sub)

    $226,600

    T. Nankervis SYD (Sub)

    $170,700

    FWD

    L. Jetta SYD

    $335,500

    L. Franklin SYD

    $426,500

    J. Cameron GWS

    $360,300

    A. McGrath BRL

    $239,300

    S. Reid SYD

    $280,800

    J. Riewoldt RIC

    $400,300

    G. Rohan SYD (Sub)

    $138,400

    M. Clark MEL (Sub)

    $213,300

  345. Dools says:

    Hey Raj

    Is Hurn back to full training mate? Savage is doubtful for Rnd 1 Thats just 2 buddy. If this was a mid year team I’d be impressed but you have a few notorious slow starters “Dangermouse” is one.

    You also have 2 Rucs as R1 & R2 who will be nursed along in opening games to see how they fare so Red vest material for mine.

    You have gone ultra cheap on Rucs to build your team I get that but I think you will chase your tail this season with that weakness but I rate Nankervis pick but he will not give you the output of both starters ATM Anywho thats my 2 cents Raj

    • chandanrajdb says:

      Hey Dools,

      Thanks for your comment above mate much appreciated…….

      1. RUCKS: I know i have got 2 of the most injury prone Ruckman's in my team but in saying that even if they stay on the field till the bye rounds i will make some cash and then trade them out. And yes both of them are more experienced ruckmans and if they are fit are elite RUCKMAN'S…….and yes I am not sure on H MaC though he has missed so much of footy during the last 3 years…..will look into it post NAB challenge games…..

      2. Hurn, i haven't heard that he is injured or something, have I missed something???…….from the recent Podcast from Jock and co including Jay Clarke, Clarke mentioned that he will be playing up forward and in the midfield…..seems like he must be having a good pre-season IMO…….again we will see where and how he plays in the NAB challenge games……ATM tossing up between him and Kade Simpson….not sure who will make the cut into my team…….

      3. Savage…..What is wrong with him…..haven't seen anywhere in the news saying that he is injured or something about him…..if he is fit and had a good pre-season he will be playing round 1 IMO…..and will be a good player and will increase in his SC output and in turn will make some quick cash generation for the upgrade……he is definitely not a keeper in my team…….

      4. Dangerfield…..mate….he is keeper and you will have to him in your team at some point and why not from start…..last year yes he started off slowly but it doesn't mean that he will start this year as well slowly…..he is a acting co-captain for crows more responsibility and IMO will be starting this season with a bang……

      5. I have got Dixon in my FWD and Thurlow in the RUCK who are DPP's (Ruck/FWD) so if one of HMaC or Sandilands goes down i can have this ruck /FWD swing working…..

      And yes My team is not even close to set at the moment…..not sure how many revisions will happen during the NAB challenge and also Post NAB challenge before RD1 starts…….

      Thanks for your comments mate…….Much appreciated…..

      Cheers,
      Raj…..

      • Dools says:

        Hi Raj,
        I totally got Savage confused with another player sorry mate my bag!

        I will look into Hurn S. again I had him last year till round 8 and I was very pleased with him but his injury score ruined my Def and coin last year but thats another story.
        If you as you say Dangermouse is a keeper then solid pick I had him from start to finish last year but he created massive $ fluctuations but I stuck it through
        See ya

  346. max von muffman says:

    Howdy guys! I've already spent hours tweaking and analysing and pulling out hair… god help me for the season proper!

    Anyhoo, would really appreciate some valued feedback on this mob… if only for some sleep tonight!

    $3500 left over…
    def: mitchell, simpson, hurn, suckling, KK, laidler, (cutler, fuller)

    mid: ablett, pendles, watson, cotchin, d beams, d thomas, j martin, mcdonald (aish, dunstan)

    ruc: grundy, thurlow (currie, nankervis)

    fwd: dangermouse, dusty martin, roughead, zorko, hogan, taylor (garlett, honeychurch)

  347. Derek says:

    Looking for MID Priced DEF.

    how do people rate the following (in order)

    Buntine
    Sam Shaw
    Webster
    R Shaw
    Docherty
    Jack Hutchins
    Phil Davis

  348. SCattery says:

    Here's my first crack for the year:

    DEF: McVeigh, Mitchell, Hanley, Suckling, Kolodjashnij, Fuller (Mcdonald, Kolodjashnij)

    MID: Ablett, Pendlebury, Selwood, Fyfe, D. Beams, Martin, Aish, C.Beams (Taylor, Dunstan)

    RUC: Mcevoy, Grundy (Naismith, Currie)

    FWD: Dangerfield, Wingard, Caddy, Billings, Rohan, Garlett (Honeychurch, Apeness)

    Would love to hear your thoughts, really not set on that forward line either.

  349. EREN says:

    DEFS BENCH
    -Bartel, J ($572,500) Sharenberg, M ($192,300)
    -Mitchell, S ($562,000) Langdon, T ($117,300)
    -Hanley, P ($516,200)
    -Suckling, M ($312,200)
    -Kolodjashnij, K ($197,300)
    -McDonald L ($182,300)

    MIDS BENCH
    Ablett, G ($695,000 Aish, J ($)
    Pendlebury, S ($683,100 Honeychurch, M ($)
    Dal Santo, N ($525,700)
    Murphy, M ($498,300)
    Beams, D ($497,200)
    Thomas, D ($341,800)
    Kelly, J ($212,300)
    Martin, J ($222,300)

    RUCK BENCH
    Sandilands, B ($310,700) Apeness, M ($137,300)
    McIntosh, H ($332,900) Thurlow, F ($118,400)

    FWDS BENCH
    Dangerfield, P ($609,000 Kerston, S ($123,900)
    Dixon, C ($487,900) Garlett, D ($117,300)
    Franklin, L ($487,700)
    Boyd, T ($217,300)
    Hogan, J ($217,300)
    Billings, J ($207,300)

  350. Blueprime says:

    What do you reckon. Have I spent my money wisely or not.
    Supercoach. $30700 Cap left
    DEF Mitchell Hanley R Henderson D Swallow Suckling M Fuller T Cutler J Tippett
    MID Ablett Pendlebury Cotchin M Murphy D Beams D Thomas Tyson J Martin L Dunstan Sheed
    RUC Grundy Sandilands F Thurlow T Nankervis
    FWD Dangerfield D Martin Chapman J Lamb Rohan L Taylor D Garlett B Brown

    Dreamteam $14000 Cap left
    DEF Mitchell Bartell Hanley S Thompson Suckling M Fuller T Cutler J Tippett
    MID Ablett Pendlebury J Selwood Cotchin D Beams M Murphy D Thomas Tyson C Beams Polec
    RUC Grundy Sandilands F Thurlow B Brown
    FWD Dangerfield D Martin Chapman J Lamb Rohan Bock L Taylor Honeychurch

    Cheers.

  351. lostlarrikin says:

    Insert cat flying amongst pigeons…

    Jarred Redden out for extended period with knee surgery.

    Jumping all over the Lobrundy Ruck combo with swinging Dix!

  352. max von muffman says:

    still immense room for movement me thinks… but what do you guys think?

    def – mcveigh, hanley, swallow, suckling, docherty, laidler (cutler, fuller)

    mid – ablett, pendlebury, cotchin, s mitchell, d beams, thomas, j martin, mcdonald (dunstan, taylor)

    ruc – lobbe, grundy (f thurlow, nankervis)

    fwd – danger, martin, zorko, j lamb, hogan, honeychurch (garlett, b brown)

    I've got b brown purely for the swing vote for thurlow… and because i ran out of cash!!!!

    any feedback would be exceptionally welcome.

    • Derek says:

      Max

      you have most of the main players being discussed. It is just how you can fit them in and what Rookies get a start Round 1.

      lobbe is a great choice as Ruck as Redden will be out for the first 8 weeks.

  353. Diesels Diehards says:

    1. Walker, A
    $572,50000.00

    2. Hibberd, M
    $517,30000.00

    3. Hanley, P
    $516,20000.00

    4. Suckling, M
    $312,20000.00

    5. Kolodjashnij, K
    $197,30000.00

    6. McDonald, L
    $182,30000.00

    23. Cutler, T
    $117,30000.00

    24. Fuller, M
    $117,30000.00

    Midfielders

    7. Ablett, G
    $695,00000.00

    8. Pendlebury, S
    $683,10000.00

    9. Cotchin, T
    $572,00000.00

    10. Murphy, M
    $498,30000.00

    11. Beams, D
    $497,20000.00

    12. Martin, J
    $222,30000.00

    13. Aish, J
    $187,30000.00

    14. Sheed, D
    $167,30000.00

    25. Dunstan, L
    $132,30000.00

    26. O'Rourke, J
    $123,90000.00

    Rucks

    15. Lobbe, M
    $464,40000.00

    16. Grundy, B
    $363,30000.00

    27. Thurlow, F
    $118,40000.00

    28. Nankervis, T
    $117,30000.00

    Forwards

    17. Dangerfield, P
    $609,00000.00

    18. Martin, D
    $549,20000.00

    19. Franklin, L
    $487,70000.00

    20. Hogan, J
    $217,30000.00

    21. Billings, J
    $207,30000.00

    22. Garlett, D
    $117,30000.00

    29. Taylor, L
    $117,30000.00

    30. Honeychurch, M
    $117,30000.00
    with 200k left in kitty, thoughts?

    • Derek says:

      Walker is expensive. Not sure if he can be relied on for the whole year. I would look at seeing how he goes and if there is a price drop and get him in.

      • Diesels Diehards says:

        Cheers Derek, was tossing up between him bartel and mitchell, but as I have Suckling I have stuck with Walke for now… Will watch NAB cup clsoely.

    • twindbag86 says:

      I'd suggest maybe proceed with caution towards Billings… on paper he looks good but he tweaked his hammy at the US training camp if I'm not mistaken, so I reckon you would want some proven match fitness from him before you select him in your starting lineup

  354. Derek says:

    Looking at everyone's teams, it seems there is a core of players that everyone are going as Must Haves.

    BACKS: Hanley, Mitchell, McDonald, Fuller, Cutler
    MIDS: Ablett, Pendlebury, Cotchin, Beams, Thomas, Dunstan
    RUCK: A Sandilands, F Thurlow, T Nankervis
    FWDS: Dangerfield, Franklin, Martin, Gartlet, Honeychurch, Taylor

    20 out of 30. The trick will be to work out the point of differences.

    • Diesels Diehards says:

      Do disagree with sandi, thurlow and thomas, two high risk injury players and one unproven, thurlow will play but big points probably not..

  355. Rhubarb_Ronin says:

    Hi Community – the idea of corrective trades for the first few rounds has been widely touted as the appropriate strategy. Before trading our collective arse off – to quote the Crouching One – what do you think is the right number of games before you make the call that you have a dud in your team? There’s nothing worse than jumping off a guy just before he goes BANG!

  356. Tray says:

    Back: Mitchel, Hanley, Simpson, Suckling, Docherty, laidler (Fuller, Cutler)
    Mid: Pendle's, watson, Cotchin, D.Beams, D.Thomas, C.Beams, Mitchie, Dunstan (Blease, O'Rourke)
    Ruck: jacobs, Hickey ( Longer, Nakervis)
    For: Dangerfield, Martin, Frankiln, Zorko, Fasolo, Kersten (Taylor, Garlett)

    Come on community give me some feedback positive and negative :)
    Loving your site and absolutely love the Podcasts Jock and Co.

  357. Billy says:

    Walker, Mitchell, Lumumba, Suckling, K Kolo, McDonald (Laidler, Fuller)
    Ablett, Swan, S Johnson, Rockliff, Beams, D Thomas, J Martin, C Beams (Dunstan, M Crouch)
    McIntosh, Sandilands (Thurlow, Currie)
    Dangerfield, Martin, Franklin, Clark, Bock, Garlett (Taylor, Honeychurch)

    Thoughts appreciated!

  358. stelzermayte says:

    My Team- Any thoughts, tips or advice?

    (ALL INTERCHANGES ARE CHEAPEST PLAYERS AND WILL BE TRADED IN FOR MORE CONSISTENT PLAYING INTERCHANGE OPTIONS AFTER ROUND 2 WHEN THE UNLIMITED TRADING PERIOD CONCLUDES)

    BACKS:
    – Jarrad McVeigh $529,900
    – Sam Mitchell $517,700
    – Luke Hodge $491,900
    – Matt Suckling $314,400
    – Tom Cutler $176,000
    – Jeremy Laidler $135,500
    – INTERCHANGE: Joel Tippet $115,200 and Tom Vandeleur $115,200

    MIDS:

    – Gary Ablett $621,200
    – Scott Pendlebury $611,200
    – Nat Fyfe $530,900
    – Trent Cotchin $511,300
    – Dayne Beams $498,800
    – Marc Murphy $463,500
    – Dale Thomas $346,400
    – Clinton Young $218,300
    – INTERCHANGE: Alex Woodward $115,200 and Daniel Robinson $115,200

    RUCKS:

    -Shane Mumford $423,000
    – Aaron Sandilands $244,500
    – INTERCHANGE: Daniel Currie $115,200 and Fraser Thurlow $115,200

    FORWARDS:

    – Patty Dangerfield $534,700
    – Chad Wingard $474,000
    – Jarryd Roughead $470,100
    – Buddy Franklin $426,500
    – Dayne Zorko $400,100
    – Mitch Honeychurch $135,500
    INTERCHANGE: Daniel Markworth $115,500 and Shane Kersten $115,500

    Your help would be awesome, any feedback or tips?

    • twindbag86 says:

      Solid first side mate looks good.

      Only ones I would suggest to be careful over are Hodgey and Daisy… both are capable of big numbers but have had their fair share of injuries in the past which means they will probably have to be managed throughout the season and treated with caution…

    • skindog says:

      that's a mad side dude, keep as is unless something happens to one of them!!!

    • derek says:

      i like the C Young choice. bargin price and i'll be watching him very close. He is competing against Martin in my team, classic rookie v fallen premium

  359. Mark Ludwig says:

    Here's my team WEAGLES

    Backs:
    1. Hibberd, M

    2. Hanley, P

    3. Birchall, G

    4. Suckling, M

    5. Kolodjashnij, K

    6. Laidler, J

    23. Cutler, T

    24. Fuller, M

    Midfielders
    7. Ablett, G

    8. Watson, J

    9. Goddard, B

    10. Beams, D

    11. Thomas, D

    12. Aish, J

    13. Sheed, D

    14. Ellis, X

    25. Dunstan, L

    26. Crouch, M

    Rucks
    15. Cox, D

    16. Naitanui, N

    27. Nankervis, T

    28. King, M

    Forwards
    17. Dangerfield, P

    18. Riewoldt, N

    19. Roughead, J

    20. Franklin, L

    21. Rohan, G

    22. Taylor, L

    29. Garlett, D

    30. Honeychurch, M

    Any Feedback is much appreciated and thanks Jock and the gang for all your hardwork, its great listening and very informative.

    • twindbag86 says:

      History would suggest that the big forwards can pull big numbers, but can also lack in consistency…

      I personally prefer to avoid the big forwards and go for the small forwards who double as midfielders as they are likely to rack up more possies, as opposed to a forward who you are more or less relying on kicking several goals if they are to score in the 100s

  360. skindog says:

    Defs:Hanley,Seedsman,Atley,Rampe,Suckling,KK,McDonald,Fuller Mids:Ablett,Pendlebury,Mitchell,D.Beams,Savage,Martin,Michie,O'Rourke,Dunstan,Garlett
    Ruc:Pyke,Lobbe,Thurlow,Nankervis
    Forw:Danger,Dixon,Franklin,Rioli,Lamb,Lennon,Taylor,Honeychurch

    • PJ8 says:

      Not bad Skinny, Few good POD's there in DEF. FYI Seedsman is having Hip surgury this week and is not expected to play early in the season.

      Not sure about Mitchell in the MID. Think its a bit of a waste in the MID. I suggest put him in DEF and get a pure MID.

      The rest of your team is solid

      • skindog says:

        thanks PJ8 didn't know about Seedsman, and the defs is something I was mucking around with.
        Had some prems there before was trying to make cash. got $117,000 left so back to drawing board to mix things up!!

        • PJ8 says:

          The price increase in the rookies makes it hard to get a good number of premiums like in the past. I don't like picking mid pricer's but seems like you have to this year.

  361. JarrydBuntine says:

    thoughts on my side
    BACKLINE
    Bartel
    Mithcell
    Swallow
    Sucking
    K Kolodjashnij
    McDonald
    Cutler
    Fuller

    Mids
    Ablett
    Cotchin
    Selwood
    Dangerfield
    D Beams
    Thomas
    Savage
    Dunstan
    Honeychurch
    C Beams

    Rucks
    McIntosh
    Brundy
    King
    Apeness

    FORWARD
    Wingard
    Franklin
    Zorko
    Lamb
    Taylor
    Bock
    Impey
    Rohan

    $126,000 remaining
    I dont mind using that money either so upgrades/downgrades to use the money more wisely would be helpful

    • skindog says:

      hey JB, Swallow not for me, like Impy but not sure about game time and watch Bock other than that nice side, only my opinion though….

  362. Nick says:

    My team atm:

    Def: S.Mitchell, Enright, Hurn, J.Grimes, K.Kolodjashnij, L.McDonald (Cutler, Fuller)
    Mid: Pendlebury, J.Selwood, M.Murphy, D.Beams, D.Thomas, J.Martin, Michie, Dunstan (O’Rourke, Honeychurch)
    Ruck: Naitanui, H.McIntosh (Sandilands, M.King)
    Fwd: Dangerfield, D.Martin, Franklin, Pavlich, Lamb,Kersten (Impey, L.Taylor)

    Thoughts?

  363. Bob says:

    Hi guys, I would like your thoughts on my first draft for my 2014 supercoach team. Please bare in mind that I have $352,800 on the bench. Any suggestions on where the money should be spent would be very helpful.

    Def:
    A. Walker, J. McVeigh, S. Mitchell, D. Swallow, M. Suckling, K. Kolodjashnig (T. Cutler, M. Fuller)

    Mid:
    S. Pendlebury, S. Johnson, N. Fyfe, D. Beams, S. Savage, C. Beams, L. McDonald, V. Michie (L. Dunstan, T. Langdon)

    Ruck:
    B. Grundy, H. McIntosh (F. Thurlow, T. Nankervis)

    Fwd:
    P. Dangerfield, D. Martin, D. Zorko, J. Lamb, L. Taylor, D. Garlett (D. Markworth, M. Honeychurch)

  364. Swainooo says:

    DEFENDERS

    S Mitchell, P Hanley, M Suckling, S Darley, K Kolodashnij, L McDonald (T Cutler, M Fuller)

    MIDFIELDERS

    G Ablett, S Pendlebury, T Cotchin, M Murphy, D Beams, A Gaff, J Martin, L Dunstan (A Morabito, J O'Rouke)

    RUCKS

    T Bellchambers, B Grundy (T Derickx, T Nankervis)

    FORWARDS

    P Dangerfield, L Franklin, D Zorko, M Pavlich, S Crameri, D Garlett (L Taylor, M Honeychurch)

    Obviously there is still alot to do, but will just have to watch, wait and see how some of these rookies play in the NAB cup.

    Would love your thoughts though :)

  365. GOONAR says:

    G'day everyone, just after any thoughts/tips re the shaping of my team, thanks.

    DEF: S. Mitchell, M. Hibberd, S. Hurn, S. Atley, M. Suckling, K.K, (L. McDonald/M. Fuller)

    MID: G. Ablett, T. Cotchin, D. Beams, M. Murphy, B. Ellis, D. Thomas, V. Michie, D. Sheed
    (L. Dunstan/ N. Robertson)

    Ruck: M. Lobbe, A. Sandilands (F. Thurlow/T. Nankervis)

    FWD: C. Dixon, L. Franklin, L. Parker, D. Zorko, J. Lamb, B. Lennon (S. Kersten/L.Taylor)

    I'm left with about $60,000 in the bank re any early trades, which there are bound to be, and the players I have been thinking about swapping are Hibberd for Hanley (hoping he can overcome the tag), Murphy for Shuey (as the Eagles have a good few opening games where some of their players could post high scores), Zorko for the big Pav (Freo have also got not too bad a start to the season and if he goes bang and Dangerfield struggles early it might mean be able to upgrade Pav to Danger??), and maybe Lobbe to Pike (both with be #1 rucks and both have the bye in round 9, which fits in with Sandi who has the round 10 bye and was going to swing in Charlie Dixon, who has the round 8 bye (using Thurlow as a fwd bench) to cover the byes, and also a cover if Sandi's big toe reappears! I'm hoping that Hurn and Atley both see more time up the ground, and that guys like Dunstan, Robertson (who Jock gave a bit of a wrap for), Lennon and Kersten get some game time early.
    Any tips would be great.

    • derek says:

      i'm not sure you have enough Keepers. Players that you will have for the whole year. You don't have Pendlebury, Selwood, Swan, Watson, Nick Nat or Dangerfield, i would say 6 of the best 7 footballers in the AFL, did i mention Stevie J. I am assuming you will be hoping to trade them in during the year after a price drop? that will need alot of trades to get the right team and i'm not sure you have that luxury. I would spend the money now, put them in your team and forget! Trade the rookies and wookies, you will have enough to worry about with them then also trying to upgrade and get the ultra premiums in

  366. LittleMidgey says:

    G’day folks, just after your opinions/insights on how my line up is shaping? Any tips/feedback/obvious weak spots I have overlooked would be appreciated. Cheers.

    DEF: J.McVeigh, P.Hanley, S.Mitchell, Roast Pig, KK, J.Laidler (M.Fuller/L.McDonald)

    MID: GAJ, Pendles, J.Watson, M.Murphy, Beams.D, Beams.C, L.Dunstan, A.Morabito (J.O’Rpurke/D.Garlett)

    RUC: T.Goldstein, M.Lobbe (Apeness/Nankervis)

    FWD: Danger, Dusty, C.Wingard, G.Rohan, L.Taylor, M.Honeychurch, (B.Lennon, D.Markworth)

    Left with $4.3k in the kitty. Would probably like to have a little more room left in the bank but not entirely sure which way to go with it.

    Thinking maybe downgrading Goldstein to Grundy with a view to upgrade later. This would allow to swap in J.Caddy for a fwd rookie (reckon caddy could have a break through year)

    • Dools says:

      Hi LM,
      I think that is one of the strongest paper teams I have viewed.
      Moribito won't see regular action till round 4 maybe 6 on reports I picked up on (I would love for him to be and about) I would slip H'curch to his posi. Caly beams is doing the work but I have a feeling that it will be rotation after rotation until the bye (Bris have quite a few they wish to blood) regardless of form maybe a caddy in there??? I think you have an excellent start team with strong Rucs and a desent cover player a very strong Fwd line (I don't like Dusty but it's personal have a look at Chappy buddy )
      The only drama I see in the back is KK but I think again you have picked well…Nice!

  367. John says:

    DEF: Walker, Mitchell, Shaw, Hanley, L Mcdonald, Kolodnashnij (Fuller, Cutler)

    MID: GAJ, Pendles, Murphy, Beams, D Thomas,J Martin, C Beams, J Aish (Dunstan, Michie)

    RUC: McEvoy, Longer (Nankervis, Lobb)

    FWD: Danger, Zorko, Dixon, Franklin, Rohan, L Taylor ( Honeychurch, Garlett)

    Left myself with no money, kinda want D Martin at start of season but dont know where to cut, would love any opinions on what you would change to team

    What are peoples thoughts on Pavlich, Sandliland, J Grimes & Caddy?

    Thanks in advance :D

    • Dylan says:

      Hi John,

      Defence: I wouldn't start with Walker because I see him playing up forward more this year and can't see him scoring as freely as he did last year.

      Midfield: There are going to be a lot of teams that start with Murphy, Beams and Thomas, I wouldn't recommend starting with all 3. Maybe you can get away with 2 of them. Personally I wouldn't start with Murphy. I just see him getting the best tagger on him every week.

      Rucks: Agree with one of the articles that was posted on the site at the end of last year saying that McEvoy will take a bit of time to a just to the Hawthorn system and has a lot more competition for the ruck spot then he did at St.Kilda. His score I believe will be lower then last year. I would go for either S.Mumford or M.Lobbe because their the number 1 rucks for there sides and theirs not much competition for that spot. Could see both averaging over 100 this year.

      Fowards: Good balance all of those guys are vaild picks.

      D.Martin there's talk be is doing to spend more this in defense this year and play a role like Deledio has in the past. I personally wouldn't start with Martin, want to see how can handle a forward tag on him. Would be the ideal upgrade option if he is playing good.

      M.Pavlich at his price I think he is too good not to pick. He has had a injury free preseason, hasn't had one for years. I think he might spend a bit more time in the midfield as a result of picking up Gumbleton. Can see him averaging over 95. Not the worst pick at his price, worth a punt based on his history.

      A.Sandilands same a Pavlich.

      J.Grimes I would stay right away from him.

      J.Caddy I'm a Cats fan I have a big rap on this guy. I think he will take over J.Corey's spot in the midfield and can see him getting 20+ touches a game easily. At his price you can't go wrong. Is also a duel position player (MID/FWD) with is another tick.

      Hope that help :)

  368. Midzed says:

    DEF; HODGE, HANLEY, D.SWALLOW, DOCHERTY, KOLODJASHNIJ, FULLER – RES; MCDONALD, CUTLER.
    MID: ABLETT, DANGERFIELD, SHUEY, HEPPELL, M.MURPHY, D.THOMAS, D.BEAMS, J.MARTIN – RES; DUNSTAN, SHEED.
    RK; GRUNDY, SANDILANDS – RES; NANKERVIS, CURRAN.
    FWD; FRANKLIN, D.MARTIN, CADDY, ROHAN, ZORKO, HONEYCHURCH – RES; L.TAYLOR, D.GARTLETT.

    What do you think?

  369. Josh says:

    Thoughts on Dale thomas? Back with M.M and a cheap price for an elite midfielder only 341,000

    • derek says:

      he will be one of my first down trades. hopefully get $100k profit and trad him out. will be in my team in Round 1, won't be there